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Which country do you think has the best music/made the best music and why?


I say US. Rap, Blues, Pop, Rock, Country. It goes on and on.

Europe as a whole, I believe. Classical, and Baroque. Nuff said. As for country specifically.... Indonesia. I love the Gamelan. But it is not my favourite full stop.

Germany rules supreme on the Oi! Scene, but all of northern europe has some amazing underground.
The USA is a barren wasteland in this case

Which country do you think has the best music/made the best music and why?


I say US. Rap, Blues, Pop, Rock, Country. It goes on and on. UK added mainly to rock, though.

The bold ones are hardly in your favour...

Anyway. It's obviously the UK. Other countries I've heard good stuff from are US, Canada, Japan and various parts of Scandinavia.

France is probably the worst I've heard.

Germany rules supreme on the Oi! Scene, but all of northern europe has some amazing underground.
The USA is a barren wasteland in this case

No way we have a ton of underground, it just may not be as potent as the euro-scene.

The bold ones are hardly in your favour...


France is probably the worst I've heard.



Amen to that.

I really enjoy Indipop and Banghra (India) and Dancehall Reggae (Jamaica). Germany has some of the best Industrial ever, too. :D

Think about it though. Without the US, who would even have rock in the first place?

I'll give Jamaica Reggae, but im still sticking to my guns. Other countries may have made genres better but the fact that we MADE them i think is what matters.

Think about it though. Without the US, who would even have rock in the first place?
...the UK?

alot of originators of rock genres were from the UK

Plus our punk music just plain rocks. (dropkick murpheys, Saosin, Atreyu, Senses Fail anyone?)

...the UK?

alot of originators of rock genres were from the UK

it became popular in the UK a few years after rock had originated in the US.

The Clash , the Rolling Stones, yes, but think about how many more bands there are from the US of A.

it became popular in the UK a few years after rock had originated in the US.

The Clash , the Rolling Stones, yes, but think about how many more bands there are from the US of A.
more bands =/= originators

And think about it....who sells out tours nationwide? Bands from the US, not so much UK anymore.

And think about it....who sells out tours nationwide? Bands from the US, not so much UK anymore.

can i ask what nation?

And think about it....who sells out tours nationwide? Bands from the US, not so much UK anymore.
sells out tours more =/= originators

And to talk about Americas rap/hip-hop scene for instance...

That doesn't mean they invented it. it just means that their contemporary rock bands sell more tickets. And selling tickets doesn't make you good. For example the top ten in most charts can sell out venues. And they have a tendancy to be rubbish.

France is probably the worst I've heard.


Yeah, but my God... Alizee...

*drools*

That doesn't mean they invented it. it just means that their contemporary rock bands sell more tickets. And selling tickets doesn't make you good. For example the top ten in most charts can sell out venues. And they have a tendancy to be rubbish.

point taken. A lot of bands are rubbish, but the underground bands have a lot going for them.

I would have to say Scandanavia. Have you ever heard Scandanavian black metal. Not to mention the folk music there.

theres so many genres of rock alone.

emo/screamo
heavy metal
light rock
underground rock
punk rock
pop punk
death metal

then theres rap, reggae, country, hip/hop, and so many more different types of music.

Which country do you think has the best music/made the best music and why?


I say US. Rap, Blues, Pop, Rock, Country. It goes on and on.

Traditional Irish. http://www.liveireland.com/ then click on CONTEMPORARY.

I would have to say Scandanavia. Have you ever heard Scandanavian black metal. Not to mention the folk music there.

I have actually heard scandanavian black metal. Ill agree its pretty sweet.

No way we have a ton of underground, it just may not be as potent as the euro-scene.
It's not that I disagree with you. It's just that "Barren Wasteland" was me trying to be polite about it. Sure there's a handfull of good bands. But that's not impressive. It's the opposite ;)

Overall and in terms of history, development and progress, it is without a doubt the US. Currently though, mainstream US (c)Rap is unlistenable. The most shitty beats ever combined with the lamest ryhmes and most idiotic subjects are what dominate MTV and BET. Guys like Dre and Timbaland should have been shot to death years ago,, thus sparing the world from suffering their senile, played out and totally un-dance-able beats. I like to DANCE at the club, not nod my head once every minute or so. Thank god cats like Outkast have been able to save mainstream Hip-Hop from its now predictable format, which can only be described as musical auto-felatio.

Techno, House, Breaks and Electro all started in the US, but it took the UK to actually pay attention to and support these genres long before they got any respect back in the US.

But Blues, Jazz, Rock and Punk (the MC5, anyone?) were born in the US as well, and their appeal is global and undeniable. As originators, the US is #1, but I doubt that will continue. Some other country or countries will take up the torch and continue to fight the good fight, while the US forgets what madew its music so awesome in the first place.

USA! USA! USA... o wait they stopped that after bush came along...
Mexico rules when it comes to music!!! :D

If you have to limit it to one country then the US wins hands down. If you can broaden the question to a region, then I say Latin America (reggae, ska, rumba, salsa, merengue, spanish rock, bomba, bachata, etc.)..

It's not that I disagree with you. It's just that "Barren Wasteland" was me trying to be polite about it. Sure there's a handfull of good bands. But that's not impressive. It's the opposite ;)

But who controls the media. You can not say US does not influence what even Britian does.

If you have to limit it to one country then the US wins hands down. If you can broaden the question to a region, then I say Latin America (reggae, ska, rumba, salsa, merengue, spanish rock, bomba, bachata, etc.)..

Damn straight!!! Go Mutha fuckin Mexico!!! :D

US, UK, and India. US has made a lot of good music, obviously. UK turned rock into a format with depth and longevity. I'm just personally fond of Indian music. Unfortunately for the US, it released the plague known as rap upon the world. Rap can get you addicted to stupidity after hearing it only once. It's clearly the most dangerous substance in the world at the moment...

And I won't try to either ;)

That said, every mainstream band could spontaniously combust tomorrow and I'd prolly never notice. I was talking about Oi! Music. Not Britney Spears. The US have spend the last 20 years trying to copy the gutless northeuropean Oi! Naturally the result is equally gutless. My theory is Americans are gutless, but I'll prolly get flamed for saying that.
But really.. Even if you were just copying the good bands, northern europe, and in particular Germany, would still be incredibly far ahead of you.

Molvania

Zlad, need I say more?

The world would be a much happier place if all rap artists were tortured and then killed.

The world would be a much happier place if all rap artists were tortured and then killed.

really? :confused:

really? :confused:

A little happier. Although the torture is unnecessary and cruel.

Yes, the torture would probably be inhumane. We should just parade their heads on pikes.

A little happier. Although the torture is unnecessary and cruel.

why dont we keep some of the good ones but keep em in a zoo or sumtin?
o yeah and i get the money and guns of the detained rappers :D jk

With a word like "sumtin", you could be blacklisted as a rap sympathizer

Bang! Bang! Rap Artist drops dead.

:cool: :sniper:

The world would be a much happier place if all rap artists were tortured and then killed.

Right on, I mean they totally promote violence and criminal activities, and it's totally wrong to promote violence and criminal acti-

:headbang:

Nevermind!

With a word like "sumtin", you could be blacklisted as a rap sympathizer

so what? if they come for me in mexico ill make a run for canada were ill live in maple syrup paradise!!! :D

I think rap is an excuse for teenagers to act infantile and take drugs. And It Fuels This Infantile Behavior. I Really Think That It Dirty's up other countrys view of the us. we're not all obese people riding around in jacked up s.u.v's listening to terrible music.



oH yEAH, i i think the U.S. Has the best that i know of, mostly because of the mix of music from all around the world. ;)

I think rap is an excuse for teenagers to act infantile and take drugs. And It Fuels This Infantile Behavior. I Really Think That It Dirty's up other countrys view of the us. we're not all obese people riding around in jacked up s.u.v's listening to terrible music. :(





oH yEAH, i i think the U.S. Has the best that i know of, mostly because of the mix of music from all around the world. ;)

is there an echo in here?

I think rap is an excuse for teenagers to act infantile and take drugs. And It Fuels This Infantile Behavior. I Really Think That It Dirty's up other countrys view of the us. we're not all obese people riding around in jacked up s.u.v's listening to terrible music.



oH yEAH, i i think the U.S. Has the best that i know of, mostly because of the mix of music from all around the world. ;)

is there an echo in here

i messed up when i pressed thye submit button. i deleted the duplicate.

Whats with everyone hating on Rap? Yeah, I hate the current mainstream stuff, but the new underground (the J5 for instance) and the older stuff is/was awesome. Hip_hop is a wonderfully vibrant culture. Don't hate on it just because MTV is only capable of playing complete shit for music.

Even a group as comercialy successful as Outkast has to be resepcted for their inovation and out and out high quality. Rap is not just about bitches, weed and glocks. Just the mainstream MTV shit is about all that. Big elctronica type groups like The Prodigy and Chemical Brothers would never have even existed without the advent of Hip-Hop waaaay back in the 70's. As a genre, it has as much history as other genres. Lighten up and try to listen to the real deal before dissing it as just being all that commercialist bullshit. Thats not Rap, its cRap, and does not truly represent Hip-Hop.

Whats with everyone hating on Rap? Yeah, I hate the current mainstream stuff, but the new underground (the J5 for instance) and the older stuff is/was awesome. Hip_hop is a wonderfully vibrant culture. Don't hate on it just because MTV is only capable of playing complete shit for music.

Even a group as comercialy successful as Outkast has to be resepcted for their inovation and out and out high quality. Rap is not just about bitches, weed and glocks. Just the mainstream MTV shit is about all that. Big elctronica type groups like The Prodigy and Chemical Brothers would never have even existed without the advent of Hip-Hop waaaay back in the 70's. As a genre, it has as much history as other genres. Lighten up and try to listen to the real deal before dissing it as just being all that commercialist bullshit. Thats not Rap, its cRap, and does not truly represent Hip-Hop.

umm thats nice but i kind of like how it is now too

Finland, hands down. Ever heard of Nightwish?

umm thats nice but i kind of like how it is now too
no, thats only the shit they give air time. Not everything is gangster rap

Finland, hands down. Ever heard of Nightwish?
sure havent

Finland, hands down. Ever heard of Nightwish?

Yep, sound very good from the samples I've heard: http://www.nightwish.com/english/mp3.html

Ihatevacations']no, thats only the shit they give air time. Not everything is gangster rap

come on how bout 50

It depends on my mood.
USA for Rock, easy listening
Europen for Classics.
Spain for the Mambo (if that's whre it's from)
Japan... well I like Japanese music... it's so relaxing. even their heavy rock is melodious.

Finland, hands down. Ever heard of Nightwish?

No, I haven't. But they are now on the top of my "to listen to" list. It is nice to hear of another Scandanavian music fan.

Finland, hands down. Ever heard of Nightwish?
Yes, but one band doesnt make a country the best country in the world for music.

I would definetley not go with USA for best music. Our mainstream music that "everyone" likes blows. US has some good rock and so does UK. Japan's metal is awesome and so is Germany's. One band that doesn't really fight into a category is Kaizer's Orchestra German Dark Jazz Rock.

Which country do you think has the best music/made the best music and why?


I say US. Rap, Blues, Pop, Rock, Country. It goes on and on.

Same here! I live where Jazz and possibly even Blues was invinted, so how can I not agree with the US' being one of the best 'music inventors' :)

come on how bout 50

50 can rhyme. That In A Little Bit one isn't good at all, but he's just tyring to make money with that. You Gonna' Love Me by Da Back Wudz goes like a poem, what with the stressed and unstressed syllables, and I like the beat too, even though that high part is so repetitive. Jesus Walks by Kanye West is probably my favorite rap song I've ever heard, Maybe. I hate Fat Joe, and hate Ja Rule. I even hate most of Snoop Dogg's stuff, especially the new stuff. West Coast rap just is not that good at all. Heck, Tu Pac, as good as he was, never held a candle to Biggie. The only good West Coast rapper I know of is the Game, but he's a part of G-Unit, which kind of makes him East Coast, cause Lloyd, Yung Buck(I think anyway), and 50 are all from the East Coast. I like Nas, which conflicts with my liking of G-Unit, but hey, as long as I don't talk about them both at the same time....

Anyway, summing it up, US has the best music. The inventor of the electic guitar is from the US, rap music originated in the US, Soul music, and I can't think of anything else I listen to. Techno music is disgusting. Although, one of my buddy's played me that power metal, and it was pretty nice.

Hong Kong is the place where Cantopop originated. While I cannot say that the quality is really really good, I guess it's something to be proud of. *rolls eyes*

50 can rhyme. That In A Little Bit one isn't good at all, but he's just tyring to make money with that. You Gonna' Love Me by Da Back Wudz goes like a poem, what with the stressed and unstressed syllables, and I like the beat too, even though that high part is so repetitive. Jesus Walks by Kanye West is probably my favorite rap song I've ever heard, Maybe. I hate Fat Joe, and hate Ja Rule. I even hate most of Snoop Dogg's stuff, especially the new stuff. West Coast rap just is not that good at all. Heck, Tu Pac, as good as he was, never held a candle to Biggie. The only good West Coast rapper I know of is the Game, but he's a part of G-Unit, which kind of makes him East Coast, cause Lloyd, Yung Buck(I think anyway), and 50 are all from the East Coast. I like Nas, which conflicts with my liking of G-Unit, but hey, as long as I don't talk about them both at the same time....
I agree with most of this like the hatin fat joe and ja rule and snoop's new shit but i liked some of snoop's old stuff and the only lean back is ok with me and i think biggie was great but i dont know if he's that much better than tupac and the game is pretty good but i'd have to say dre's made some good one's. Jay Z is pretty good and so is Ludacris. Oh Yeah, Cant forget everybodys favorite white rapper Eminem :D

Finland, hands down. Ever heard of Nightwish?

Finland has one of the best guitarists in the world coming out of their country


ALEXI LAIHO BITCHES!! I bow down to his feet........if only i was 0.00001% as good as him....my dream is to play a Children of Bodom song.


GO CHILDREN OF BODOM! GO ALEXI LAIHO! Damn Finland's lucky....


I'm from the USA. And I gotta say most of our music is shit. We are dominated by the Hip-Hop industry. What people do like Rock, (What they call) Punk, Metal, and Hard Rock our content to listening to talentless fools playing powerchords and half-ass solos. Everybody seems to have forgotten what a guitar sounds like. We need more Zakk Wylde, Alexi Laiho, the late Dimebag Darrel Abbott, Stevie Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen (Spelling?), the guys from Shadows Fall, and all those great guitarist that seem to have been forgotten. We need more bassists like Les Claypool. WE NEED TALENT IN THIS COUNTRY! I rest my case....

Greece has the best music. (Vangelis)
Germany and France are close (klaus Schulze, J. M. Jarre)

And yes, of course the Americans invented rock-music, electricity, gun-powder, the wheel, the use of fire, absolutely everything. A hundred thousand years before anybody else came down from the trees.
Pathetic. :(

Germany for Bach, Schubert and Mahler
Austria for Mozart and Beethoven
Italy for Vivaldi and Verdi
Russia for Tchaikovski, Mussorgski and Schostakovitch.

That's GOOD music.
I like Rock music, Punk Rock, Heavy Metal etc as well, but that's just nice to listen to. There's simply no substance

Per capita, I'd have to say Scandinavia...I guess Norway. Sweden does have Candlemass, though, and Finland does have Amorphis, but I'll go with Norway.

But the best overall would have to be the U.S. Yes, there is more bad music made here than good music, but the U.S. invented blues, jazz, rock, (even if you don't think Elvis was the first rocker, anyone else that could be suggested was also from here) punk rock, (the Ramones) thrash metal, (Metallica) death metal, (Slayer or Death) and grunge. Of course, we also invented country and rap...blech. (Not that all country and rap is bad, just most of it.)

Britain would be second, as they invented heavy metal, (Black Sabbath) black metal, (Venom) and industrial (Killing Joke, as far as I know they were the first, but they may not have been.)

I like Rock music, Punk Rock, Heavy Metal etc as well, but that's just nice to listen to. There's simply no substanceYou're kidding, right? You've never heard any rock, punk, or metal with any substance? If not, then you're not listening to the right rock, punk, or metal. :D

I haven't heard music from every country, so I couldn't possibly say. What little Vietnamese music I've heard was lovely. Japanese, Chinese and Korean music doesn't really suit my taste, but that's probably in great part due to cultural difference.

There's some nice stuff from Central and South America, but not quite my taste either. And I know very little about African and Oceanian music.

Of course, the UK had the Beatles, which puts it way up there. :) Germany produced a staggering number of great composers, which makes it a strong contender.

The Beatles, The Who, Phil Collins, etc. The UK produce the best music. Although the yanks did give us Billy Joel?

You're kidding, right? You've never heard any rock, punk, or metal with any substance? If not, then you're not listening to the right rock, punk, or metal. :D

Not at all... take the best piece of Heavy Metal you can think of and then compare it to "A night on the bald moutnain" by Modest Mussorgski, and you'll see what I mean.

Not at all... take the best piece of Heavy Metal you can think of and then compare it to "A night on the bald moutnain" by Modest Mussorgski, and you'll see what I mean.I haven't heard that particular song, but while I like classical, I can't list any of it in my favorite songs category.

Finland, hands down. Ever heard of Nightwish?

Got 5 of their albums, I like Lacuna Coil aswel tho

America has the best music. :( I'm sad to say.

Same here! I live where Jazz and possibly even Blues was invinted, so how can I not agree with the US' being one of the best 'music inventors' :)

Ah so you live in France, or maybe you live in Halifax, Wst Yorkshire, England.

Since I listen to pretty much everything (from Rammstein to Mozart to Boy George to Rule Britannia), I´ve got a hard time to make my mind up, though I can´t say a specific country, I´d say Europe as a whole, or Germany and Scandinavia in particular. Scandinavia mostly for the great music made there that noone can understand :D... Not that that´s the reason, but that music is just great. Kent is probably my favourite, and they don´t make songs like 50 cent (shake that ass girl)(by the way, probably the most meaningless song I´ve ever heard), they make songs like, well, kent... no exact line is a true sign of their greatness, though Max 500 is just sick, there´s nothing in it that makes sence (500 miles in the snow, A UFO over the lake, and in a bolt of lightning I see, Keats stand nest to Baudelare, Like magic a light you drown in), though it all does somehow...

The US cannot claim ownership of any genres of music really. Partly cos it's such a young country.

Country: Based on European folk music
Blues: Based on the West African singing traditons that were transported across the globes with slaves.
Rock: Based on blues. Blues guitarists had been playing rock and roll for ages before anyonje called it that.
Punk: Came out of the Marxist anarchist movement in English universities.

....Need I go on?

The world would be a much happier place if all rap artists were tortured and then killed.

we could simply make them listen to their own music?

Which country do you think has the best music/made the best music and why?


I say US. Rap, Blues, Pop, Rock, Country. It goes on and on.
Of course you think that. The idea of 'best' is very culturally subjective.

France is probably the worst I've heard.
There is a LOT of really great French (from France) music.

Think about it though. Without the US, who would even have rock in the first place?
You mean if YOU hadn't stolen rock from the blacks? I'm sure someone else would have...

US i will admit is without Rock talent any more. The few guitar players who are any good cant get their music out there because the parasite that is Rap.
The curse that take form in Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, ect. ruin everything.
Damn you Pop/Punk.

But who controls the media. You can not say US does not influence what even Britian does.
Do you not see how american-centric you are? Do you really think American music is that popular outside of your own country? Silvio Rodriguez from Cuba could outsell ANY American act in Latin America, hands down, no fancy light shows, just one guy with a guitar. And there are a hell of a lot more Latin Americans than US Americans...so which music is really more popular?

Finland, hands down. Ever heard of Nightwish?
I have. They sound like cats being forced to inject their own urine.

And there are a hell of a lot more Latin Americans than US Americans...so which music is really more popular?

Yes but along the same lines, there are a hell of a lot more Chinese than Latin Americans. So does that mean chinese is more popular?

Finland has one of the best guitarists in the world coming out of their country


ALEXI LAIHO BITCHES!! I bow down to his feet........if only i was 0.00001% as good as him....my dream is to play a Children of Bodom song.


GO CHILDREN OF BODOM! GO ALEXI LAIHO! Damn Finland's lucky....


I'm from the USA. And I gotta say most of our music is shit. We are dominated by the Hip-Hop industry. What people do like Rock, (What they call) Punk, Metal, and Hard Rock our content to listening to talentless fools playing powerchords and half-ass solos. Everybody seems to have forgotten what a guitar sounds like. We need more Zakk Wylde, Alexi Laiho, the late Dimebag Darrel Abbott, Stevie Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen (Spelling?), the guys from Shadows Fall, and all those great guitarist that seem to have been forgotten. We need more bassists like Les Claypool. WE NEED TALENT IN THIS COUNTRY! I rest my case....

Malmsteen's shit sounds like it's out of an arcade video game man. I'm sorry, but just because you can move your fingers real fast doesn't make you a great guitarist.

You mean if YOU hadn't stolen rock from the blacks? I'm sure someone else would have...

Americans took an idea and made it better. They improved upon it and made it what it is today.

The US cannot claim ownership of any genres of music really. Partly cos it's such a young country.

The age of our country has nothing to do with it. Music's come a long way since the 1700s, bub.

Country: Based on European folk music

Not in America it isn't. Country has nothing to do with Europe, at least not in America. Country is the result of our yokels and hillbillies discovering gee-tars and strummin' them up in them Ozarks.

Blues: Based on the West African singing traditons that were transported across the globes with slaves.

The Blues evolved in America.

Rock: Based on blues. Blues guitarists had been playing rock and roll for ages before anyonje called it that.

In America.

Punk: Came out of the Marxist anarchist movement in English universities.

I'll give you punk...but it was really shitty punk. America's taken your punk and made it into something listenable.

....Need I go on?

No. You've made your intent to rip on anything American completely clear.

but im sorry i made that statement about US music being more popular because this isnt a popularity thing its about what the BEST music is.

No. You've made your intent to rip on anything American completely clear.

Amen to that.

Yes but along the same lines, there are a hell of a lot more Chinese than Latin Americans. So does that mean chinese is more popular?
Chinese musical artists? Yeah, it probably would. 'Best' is very subjective. It depends on what your tastes are. If you have narrowly defined tastes in music, you will choose an artist from that genre. If your tastes are wider, it is difficult to say which genres are better. More commonly, people will like certain artists from certain genres.

but im sorry i made that statement about US music being more popular because this isnt a popularity thing its about what the BEST music is.
Then define what you mean by best. If it isn't based on the most amount of listeners, what IS it based on? We need criteria to make a semi-valid judgement.

Chinese musical artists? Yeah, it probably would. 'Best' is very subjective. It depends on what your tastes are. If you have narrowly defined tastes in music, you will choose an artist from that genre. If your tastes are wider, it is difficult to say which genres are better. More commonly, people will like certain artists from certain genres.

I agree with that statement.

Then define what you mean by best. If it isn't based on the most amount of listeners, what IS it based on? We need criteria to make a semi-valid judgement.

What I mean by best is A. what country has the best total music influence on other parts of the world and B. The quality music it produces.

Also you can go in to Genres, such as "The UK has the best rock" and such.

The Blues evolved in America.
Thanks to the influence of African music, brought into your culture by black slaves.

Can America really take credit for that alone?

Every musical tradition has had outside influences. Look at gypsy music...from India, to Spain, to Armenia and everywhere in between...it's had influence and impact all over.

The best music (subjective term yes) seems to be fusion music...music from different traditions, refined and blended to create new genres. It is hubris and nothing more for one nation, or people to lay claim to a genre as though they alone were instrumental in creating it.

What I mean by best is A. what country has the best total music influence on other parts of the world and B. The quality music it produces.
A) what do you mean by influence? What has been incorporated into other genres? What has created the most 'tribute' bands?

B) What are you basing your definition of quality on? Overall musical artistry? Complicated compositions? Lyrics? Rythym? What?

Very difficult issue...

Yes black slaves may have brought blues over but it was IN AMERICA that blues made the transition to rock.

I edited it with C. Its spit up in to Genres. (like saying "UK has the best rock" and such.)

Thanks to the influence of African music, brought into your culture by black slaves.

Can America really take credit for that alone?

Every musical tradition has had outside influences. Look at gypsy music...from India, to Spain, to Armenia and everywhere in between...it's had influence and impact all over.

The fact of the matter is, the Blues evolved in America. You're right, slaves brought African traditions over here and that helped to fuel the creation of the Blues. But if we had never taken slaves and brought them over here, chances are the Blues wouldn't exist. Therefor, the Blues originated in America.

The best music (subjective term yes) seems to be fusion music...music from different traditions, refined and blended to create new genres. It is hubris and nothing more for one nation, or people to lay claim to a genre as though they alone were instrumental in creating it.

Maybe this topic isn't for you. It's a simple question really, and you're trying to make it something way more complicated...something it isn't.

The Clash , the Rolling Stones, yes, but think about how many more bands there are from the US of A.

And the ratio, with respect to the fact that you have five extra time-zones?

I would have to say Scandanavia. Have you ever heard Scandanavian black metal. Not to mention the folk music there. Yes. Scandinavia 'wins'.


Oh, and whoever was saying that America bought slaves and then brought them over - It was British trade that got them over to your side of the Atlantic, what with us wanting sugar, you wanting slaves, and natives of the coastal areas wanting guns. It was a good system, apparently.

Yes black slaves may have brought blues over but it was IN AMERICA that blues made the transition to rock.
Perhaps...but it didn't stay there...it spread its influence to other nations too. And who is to say it wasn't perfected elsewhere? Again, the answer to this question will be based on subjective ideas of 'better'.

USA, the bloodhound gang

Umm.. does it matter? You can't compete in music.. you can compete in popularity of course, but really who cares? I like the music I like no matter how many else agree with me.

I have no contry I like the most, I love to hear music from all over the world because it's a great way into other cultures. I've listened to a lot of Swedish music quite obviously, Irish and Zimbabwean. All great in their own ways!

I edited it with C. Its spit up in to Genres. (like saying "UK has the best rock" and such.)
Ah...this is easier now. Thank you.

I would have to say Scandanavia. Have you ever heard Scandanavian black metal. Not to mention the folk music there.

Winner is you <3

Germany has the best music w/ the metal bands like Rammstein and Oomph! also Megaherz.

Maybe this topic isn't for you. It's a simple question really, and you're trying to make it something way more complicated...something it isn't.
Something that it isn't? This IS a complicated question. You can pretend it's simplistic if you wish and answer it as such. There are cultural aspects to this that are going to colour people's answers, especially when we start trying to say which country is the musical 'best'. If you want valid answers, be prepared to defend your choices, based on some sort of criteria. I think the OP has done a good job of narrowing things down a bit. The topic is not, "What do YOU think is the best music, and what do you base your choice on?" It was a more general question, as though an absolute could be found objectively. Do you really think that is possible?

I have. They sound like cats being forced to inject their own urine.

And what kind of music do you listen to?

And what kind of music do you listen to?
I'll listen to any music I consider good. Nightwish is not good.

I'll listen to any music I consider good. Nightwish is not good.

That's an evasive answer and not actually answering the question, since it was implied that I was asking for genre.

But I'll stop getting off topic.

My favourite genres:

cumbia, canción nueva, nueva trova, copla, zamba, bolero, fado, merengue, cueca, rock, spanish hip-hop, música gitana. No country pwns any of these genres alone, but I have a soft spot for Chilean and Cuban music.

That's an evasive answer and not actually answering the question, since it was implied that I was asking for genre.

But I'll stop getting off topic.
No, I'm afraid it's not. I'll literally listen to anything I consider good. My music collection is absolutely fucking huge - there's currently 121,710 songs in D:\Music (approximately 210GB). I have songs by ABBA to Frank Sinatra to Aphex Twin to Radiohead to Abney Park to Daft Punk to Gwen Stefani. In fact, chances are I'll have most of the bands mentioned here on this drive somewhere.

I believe every country has music its reputable for and its senseless trying to pick the greatest one because without some countries we wouldn’t have it in the beginning and without the others it wouldn’t be what it is today. If we want to go from who had it first we might as well look at some caveman beating a stick on a rock as having it first and all music branched out from there.

Jinjav Sabree, Bel Amee Anora

AKA Riki, Canada

People - who originated a genre is meaningless to modern music. Ok, so maybe America was the birthplace of rock, but modern rock has evolved so much since then, not just from American influences. You really think modern rock would be what it is without influence from Eric Clapton, the Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zep, etc etc? Maybe rock was originally American, but now it's a world music, as it has so many different influences from around the world. Every single person has a totally unique interpretation of any music, which is why so many different genres are appreciated around the world. Musical diversity around the world is important to the progression of music as a whole.
It's pointless arguing which country has the best music, as music preference (quite clearly) changes from person to person. I've seen almost 50 separate genres of music mentioned in this thread - how is it possible to compare them? You can try on technical proficiency, sales, worldwide recognition - in other words, any one of a number of criteria. And yet there'd still be arguments - even if something is popular, doesn't mean it's good. Anyone know what's been #1 in the UK singles charts for the last 5(?) weeks?

I can't decide which is the best country. My favourite bands are all from different countries - Ireland, USA, Iceland, The Netherlands, Sweden - and that's just my top 5! I couldn't say. I think that proportionate to population, the best music country is by far, Iceland. Almost Everything that comes out of there is great.

France is probably the worst I've heard.
French pop music tends to really suck, but they have produced a few good bands, such as Air and Oui Oui.

I'll listen to any music I consider good. Nightwish is not good.
Sure they are, if you can get over extreme cheesiness! But they're not that bad by power metal standards. I prefer Blind Guardian in that genre, but I have a couple of Nightwish CDs.

Anyone know what's been #1 in the UK singles charts for the last 5(?) weeks?

Not being from the UK, I don't know, but what is it? From the attitude of your post I would assume it's some kind of wretched pop music, like Simple Plan or Kelly Clarkson here in the US.

Plus our punk music just plain rocks. (dropkick murpheys, Saosin, Atreyu, Senses Fail anyone?)

Atreyu represents everything that is wrong with hardcore these days. :(

Probably the US, after all they gave us punk, hardcore, techno and rap.

And you know you secretly like Wu-Tang Clan.

The world would be a much happier place if all rap artists were tortured and then killed.
I second that motion.

Not being from the UK, I don't know, but what is it? From the attitude of your post I would assume it's some kind of wretched pop music, like Simple Plan or Kelly Clarkson here in the US.
Ha! I wish. No, we have Axel F, by Crazy Frog. IT'S A FUCKING RINGTONE! I'd prefer every song in the charts to be rap, and I detest rap with a passion. Not that it'd make much difference to me, as I never listen to the radio, but that's not the point.

Sure they are, if you can get over extreme cheesiness! But they're not that bad by power metal standards. I prefer Blind Guardian in that genre, but I have a couple of Nightwish CDs.
The lead singer can't sing.

Not in America it isn't. Country has nothing to do with Europe, at least not in America. Country is the result of our yokels and hillbillies discovering gee-tars and strummin' them up in them Ozarks.

Country is quite influenced by black-slave music and Irish and Scottish folk music. I agree with everything else you said.

I think rap is an excuse for teenagers to act infantile and take drugs.
Teens have always done that. Rap just makes it more public.

One band that doesn't really fight into a category is Kaizer's Orchestra German Dark Jazz Rock.
Kaizers Orchestra are actually from Norway. They're really good.

Ha! I wish. No, we have Axel F, by Crazy Frog. IT'S A FUCKING RINGTONE! I'd prefer every song in the charts to be rap, and I detest rap with a passion. Not that it'd make much difference to me, as I never listen to the radio, but that's not the point.

Now that's funny. Of course it's not funny to you, because you have to deal with it, but it's funny to those of us on the outside, who enjoy the misery of others. I'm joking, of course.

The lead singer can't sing.
Yes, she can. What do you have to substantiate your opinion? I would like actual musical points here and not cat similes.

I haven't heard that particular song, but while I like classical, I can't list any of it in my favorite songs category.
You're one of those people who says "my favourites are band x, band y, singer z, classical music...", aren't you! I think most people who say that without picking out particular composers are just saying that they like classical music to sound intelligent or something.

Now that's funny. Of course it's not funny to you, because you have to deal with it, but it's funny to those of us on the outside, who enjoy the misery of others. I'm joking, of course.
It's not so bad. I've only heard it once, and because I never listen to radio, I'm never likely to hear it any more. It's just that I find it incredibly depressing that the music business has degenerated into the commercial cesspit it currently is.

I second that motion.

It's funny how all the people who dismiss rap as 'non-music' have never even really listened to any, I suppose it's just ignorance.

You mean if YOU hadn't stolen rock from the blacks? I'm sure someone else would have...
What, were the blacks who were playing rock music not American? Since when do you have to be white to be American?

It's funny how all the people who dismiss rap as 'non-music' have never even really listened to any, I suppose it's just ignorance.
I've heard plenty of rap. I'm not sure I'd survive listening to it.

rap isnt the enemy, it has great beats, but a lot of people dont consider TODAYS rap music. The original stuff 12 or 13 years ago was awesome, it was an untapped music source then.

I've heard plenty of rap. I'm not sure I'd survive listening to it.

I don't think you can die from sound. Unless the sound was really loud, which would make you vibrate crazily and your eardrums shatter, or if the sound was really high-pitched, which would make your eardrums shatter and then you could bleed to death....but my diagnosis is that you're overreacting.

I think the reason most people don't like rap is because they think it's not cool to like rap. But that's only a state of mind. If people started to say they actually liked rap music, it would start to be not such a bad thing. Another reason may be because it's, either subliminally or not, shouting out to them the way things are. Rap artists usually write about life in urban areas, and it's not pretty. Whether or not they talk about shooting people up, or getting shot up, it's telling you that the fact of the matter is, there's shooting, which is bad. People who don't experience this would rather not be told about it, so they turn the rap music off, to listen to rock music, which usually doesn't have lyrics detailing poverty and squalor, opting instead for teenage angst. One more reason is that they could be simply racist. Of course I'm sure there are people that simply don't like rap music, much like there are people who don't like classical music, but the fact of the matter is, at least what it looks like from here, is that it's overwhelming the way that everyone is willing to chime in their hate for rap music, and it's not that way for any other kind of music. My apologies.

Another reason people dismiss rap music is because some of the artists never experienced troubles. Thats the reason theres so many raps about 'Money and Hoes." As I previously stated, rap music in itself is not a bad thing. Its the new age music that doesnt have soul, but is in it mainly for the money.

Rap is not necessarily bad. In fact, a lot of soldiers in Iraq right now have made there own raps about the war and the conditions and are now circulating them in the US. That is real. That I respect. I do not, however, respect half of todays rappers because some of them barely even do anything (LIL' JON anyone? YEeeeeeeeeeeeaaaah! WhAt!) so i doubt people dont like rap because of RACISM, i mean, Eminem is white.

I don't think you can die from sound. Unless the sound was really loud, which would make you vibrate crazily and your eardrums shatter, or if the sound was really high-pitched, which would make your eardrums shatter and then you could bleed to death....but my diagnosis is that you're overreacting.

I think the reason most people don't like rap is because they think it's not cool to like rap. But that's only a state of mind...
Well, I was more referencing the idea that hearing is not the same as listening. I've heard lots of rap music. and I think it's terrible - mind-numbing, boring, repetitive - actually listening to it would probably kill me because then I'd be forced to comprehend the mundane cliché lyrics.

And no, it's not that I feel a social pressure not to like rap. I don't like rap because I think it's terrible drivel.

Rap isn't music. You can take a beat and nursery rhyme and you got a rap. All it is a bunch of rhyming words put together with a beat. Music requires musical talent, not the just the simple abililty to talk quickly. And the idea that a lot of people don't like rap because they think it's not cool is ridiculous. Rap is more popular in the US right now than Rock. It'd make more sense to say that a lot of people like rap because they think it is the cool thing.

To respond to the thread, at the moment I'd say Canada has the best music, since my current favorite band is from Canada. (Sum 41) Though most of the bands I like are from America (Bad Company, Guns N Roses, Rise Against, Puddle of Mudd, list goes on and on and on and on...)

What country has the best music?

India.

We invented rock music.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3520384.stm

Europe (I know its not a country) for making music something to be listenned to for enjoyement.

USA for creating (or having a hand in creating) so many different genres.

Canada for perfecting the ideas of the above two (also for being home to Gob, Chixdiggit and DOA).

Rap isn't music. You can take a beat and nursery rhyme and you got a rap. All it is a bunch of rhyming words put together with a beat. Music requires musical talent, not the just the simple abililty to talk quickly.....

Rap isn't necessarily music, it's more like poetry, set to drums and bass. The reason nursery rhymes have survived for so long is because they leave a mark, and they take some kind of talent to create, to find the words that rhyme and have the proper syllables. To write a rap takes more knowledge of the English(or whatever the new stuff is) language, as opposed to knowledge of the musical staff. Besides, not all raps go that fast, only Twista, who is really fast, crazy fast, hooked on speed fast. If it's too fast, you're too old! :)

.....Canada for perfecting the ideas of the above two (also for being home to Gob, Chixdiggit and DOA).

Gob's from Canada? I love Gob. They should be famousser(word?), I guess they're record company isn't that good at promoting, or they're just trying not to go commercial and keep it about the music...in that case, they need to get with the times. :D

Rap isn't music. You can take a beat and nursery rhyme and you got a rap.
Why would that not be music?

Man rap has been crap since the early 90s when is became a platform for the dregs of society to get attention and money. The rap in the 80's wasnt about bitches, ho's and my overpriced 20's that just dont stop spinnin, it was about something new and fun, not about presenting an already troubled segment of society with even worse examples of how to reach bottom. ;)

Oh yeah, Western society(western developed nations) has the best music by far, due to its diversity and influences from all over the world.

Well, I was more referencing the idea that hearing is not the same as listening. I've heard lots of rap music. and I think it's terrible - mind-numbing, boring, repetitive - actually listening to it would probably kill me because then I'd be forced to comprehend the mundane cliché lyrics.

If you want to avoid mundane, cliché lyrics then don't listen to rap wih mundane cliché lyrics. Avoid everything you see on MTV, every type of music on the radio and on MTV has mundane cliché lyrics.

Seriously, it's not all awful like 50 Cent.

But Blues, Jazz, Rock and Punk (the MC5, anyone?) were born in the US as well

Blues, Jazz, and Rock, yes, but Punk Rock? It was simultaneously England and America in 1975. MC5 were not Punk Rock, and neither were the Velvet Underground, the Stooges, and the New York Dolls. Though, I guess if you say something enough, it may one day come true :rolleyes:.

For the sake of keeping on-topic, it's a toss-up between the U.K. and the U.S.A. I'll have to go with the U.K., though. The fact that far fewer shitpop groups and teeny boppers come from that country makes it come out on top for me.

I'd say the U.S. For one, the only music I really like is rock, which was really born here as far as more modern rock is concerned, such as Aerosmith and the Eagles. The latter also makes the U.S. the best place for music, because - correct me if I'm wrong, this was in Guinness a few years ago - the Eagles are like the top-selling band ever. Worldwide. Thus, the U.S. birthed the best, and must therefore be the best.

Of course, by that line of reasoning, the United Kingdom is the worst, because they let U2 come into being. However, I wouldn't go that far.

I'd say the U.S. For one, the only music I really like is rock, which was really born here as far as more modern rock is concerned, such as Aerosmith and the Eagles. The latter also makes the U.S. the best place for music, because - correct me if I'm wrong, this was in Guinness a few years ago - the Eagles are like the top-selling band ever. Worldwide. Thus, the U.S. birthed the best, and must therefore be the best.

Of course, by that line of reasoning, the United Kingdom is the worst, because they let U2 come into being. However, I wouldn't go that far.

Yes, because selling the most albums and tickets makes you the best :rolleyes:.

The Eagles and Aerosmith are terrible. You want real American Rock bands? Try Husker Du and the Misfits.

Yes, because selling the most albums and tickets makes you the best :rolleyes:.

The Eagles and Aerosmith are terrible. You want real American Rock bands? Try Husker Du and the Misfits.

Never heard of Husker Du. Aren't the Misfits a faggy punk rock band? Aerosmith kicks the hell out of punk any day.

Never heard of Husker Du. Aren't the Misfits a faggy punk rock band? Aerosmith kicks the hell out of punk any day.

Methinks Glenn Danzig wouldn't take too kindly to anybody calling his band "faggy". And Jerry Only would probably smash you with his guitar :p.

Why is something that has less than seven chords in a song considered "faggy" by "Classic Rock lovers"? I've never figured that one out. Seems to me since they love their music so much, they'd like all music.

Methinks Glenn Danzig wouldn't take too kindly to anybody calling his band "faggy". And Jerry Only would probably smash you with his guitar :p.

Why is something that has less than seven chords in a song considered "faggy" by "Classic Rock lovers"? I've never figured that one out. Seems to me since they love their music so much, they'd like all music.

Aerosmith is hardly classic rock, even if it is rock and classic. If you're going to listen to hard rock, or punk rock, or acid rock, go with something good like Black Sabbath.

Gob's from Canada? I love Gob. They should be famousser(word?), I guess they're record company isn't that good at promoting, or they're just trying not to go commercial and keep it about the music...in that case, they need to get with the times. :D

Well the punk Gob (Foot in Mouth Disease, The World According to Gob, etc...) are Canadian. There is another Gob I guess, not punk, techno I think that are from Europe I believe, but they aren't nearly as big as the Canadian Gob (who aren't big right now). Glad to see there is another fan out there.

Aerosmith is hardly classic rock, even if it is rock and classic. If you're going to listen to hard rock, or punk rock, or acid rock, go with something good like Black Sabbath.

Black Sabbath are very good. However, it's not really my "thing". I'm into '77 Punk Rock, mostly. Oh, and Husker Du.

Well the punk Gob (Foot in Mouth Disease, The World According to Gob, etc...) are Canadian. There is another Gob I guess, not punk, techno I think that are from Europe I believe, but they aren't nearly as big as the Canadian Gob (who aren't big right now). Glad to see there is another fan out there.

Blech....techno....what a disgrace.

Which country do you think has the best music/made the best music and why?


I say US. Rap, Blues, Pop, Rock, Country. It goes on and on.
Ireland (Éire)...One visit to Dublin and you'll agree.

Blues, Jazz, and Rock, yes, but Punk Rock? It was simultaneously England and America in 1975. MC5 were not Punk Rock, and neither were the Velvet Underground, the Stooges, and the New York Dolls.
True, but the Ramones were. :)

The US, because of Country music, of coarse. :D

Overall it's a close race between the US and the UK. But if you look at the scenes today I'd go with scandinavia, that's where the best metal, rock and indy-pop bands come from.

Hey, for all the haters, And you don't stop, 30 years of Hip Hop, is on vh1 right now. I don't know how much longer it will be on, but you might want to check it out.

Think about it though. Without the US, who would even have rock in the first place?

United Kingdom buddy.

Europe has the best music. That goes double for techno and trance music.

North American is mainly manufactured by fat sound engineers living in their mom's basement. Examples are: Ashlee Simpson, Lindsay Lohan, and Britney Spears.

right. Except thats Pop. Who cares about pop. That does not represent the US's music. I have to say UK's rap doesnt cut it. There all white kids who just decided to be rappers.

so hah

pop doenst mean we arent better than you.

your just mad that we beat you in the Revolutionary War.

Some of that Arabic shit doesn't sound that bad. I haven't heard very much though.

I'd say the U.S. For one, the only music I really like is rock, which was really born here as far as more modern rock is concerned, such as Aerosmith and the Eagles. The latter also makes the U.S. the best place for music, because - correct me if I'm wrong, this was in Guinness a few years ago - the Eagles are like the top-selling band ever. Worldwide. Thus, the U.S. birthed the best, and must therefore be the best.

Of course, by that line of reasoning, the United Kingdom is the worst, because they let U2 come into being. However, I wouldn't go that far.
Actually, it's the Beatles - source (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/).
And U2 are from Ireland, which never has been, isn't, and in all likelihood is never going to be, part of the UK.

Canada City']United Kingdom buddy.

Europe has the best music. That goes double for techno and trance music.

North American is mainly manufactured by fat sound engineers living in their mom's basement. Examples are: Ashlee Simpson, Lindsay Lohan, and Britney Spears.

Last I checked.....nobody liked techno. Techno could be played by a 14 year old girl, I think anyway...a lot of people know piano by that age...and of course can sing in a high voice. The only thing missing would the the "duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh," beat in the back of every techno song.

Can't we all agree that we all have our our own unique music and unique additions to the music world and unite against the common enemy? The pop invasion is slowly taking over the world youth, singing at the whim of a hat. We shall invade USA and take down these music whores for funding and supporting the pop invasion. For a better tomorrow.

America. Hands down. We also have the WORST music. :p

I think the UK has the best overall average as far as decent music. But even they occasionally generate a 'Spice Girls". *bleah*

i think Europe is the best music. They did have the beetles

:mp5: :sniper:

i think Europe is the best music. They did have the beetles

:mp5: :sniper:

Britain dude. Britain had the Beatles. Europe had Las Ketchup (urgh... sudden flashback of much pain...).

Which country do you think has the best music/made the best music.the United States.

Also it has the best Movies,

USA produces the best all around entertainement...Its not even close.

USA is number 0ne in Show-biz...

I like what that industry is able to create.

And U2 are from Ireland, which never has been, isn't, and in all likelihood is never going to be, part of the UK.
'twas until 1921...

True, but the Ramones were. :)

Which is why I said 1975 :D.

Well, the Ramones started in 1974... The Sex Pistols started in 1972, though they changed names (started as The Strand, changed to the Swankers, then finally to the Sex Pistols; Steve Jones and Paul Cook were constants).

1975 is an "average", if you will. It includes the Sex Pistols (1972), the Ramones (1974), The Damned (1975), The Clash (1976), the Buzzcocks (1976), and the Dead Boys (1976)... Among others.

US rules in rock (of all the glorious varieties), blues, bluegrass, oldschool country (johnny cash), jazz and the like.

European nations rule the classical, opera and baroque markets. Techno is ruled by germans, with an iron fist.

Think about it though. Without the US, who would even have rock in the first place?
makes no sense. rock originated from the blues, which came from mostly southern black guitar players. and they mostly originated from africa, and developed the blues because it sucked to be *surprise*!! OWNED by some white dude who made you pick cotton. the drum stuff ( i.e. the beats,aand 12 bar blues scales.), well , that also came from those guys as well. the united states is a YOUNG country, and we need to stop taking credit for everything.

by the way , it is CANADA that turns out consistently the best thrash metal. just , you know, thought i would give my opinion.

Canadian, and for good reson. for Canadian artist can only get big bucks and contracts if they can sign up with the big american labels (the Canadian labels are just not big enough to pull it off becuase all there best stars go to american labels.) and becuase the Canadian market is so much smaller that the american market, Canadian artist have to be of a high caliber to get noticed by the big american labels. thusly, the average Canadian artist how make the big times, are generaly better than the Average artist from American, or almost any other western nation. (keeping in mind the since only a few eruo band make it big out here, it safe to asume that NA bands don't do that well and in the old world.)

It's no contest that it's Europe, in general. When comparing the great artists such as Beethoven or Chopin, all of the 'rock' and 'rap' stuff is just totally obsolete. It shouldn't even be considered.

However, if we're talking about who has the best rock, it's a good contest between the US and the UK. But I'm going to say UK, because they're the birthplace of the best band ever to live: The Beatles.

I like some music from everywhere, where a band comes from doesn't determine how good they are, it's the music they play, although i do have a tendency to think the US has produced alot of trash... :p

To be fair though, that's just cause i'm Aussie and we get to here alot of stuff from the US

if you're looking for great metalcore, germany is the place to go... heaven shall burn, caliban, and neaera are probably the best metalcore bands around right now... for lots of punk and d-beat (and also metalcore) you can go to sweden, or finnland... norway rocks for death metal too... the Uk is great for indie artists and rock stuff... the us obviously owns rap (not that thats a good thing) and we've got a fairly wide rock scene.. our street punk is okay too... the best hardcore globally is centered in two areas, both in the us... first, there's new england, home to some of the best hardcore and metalcore bands around.. such as.. embrace today (mass) invocation of nehek (ct) acacia strain (mass) and countless others... more hardcore is in sothern california, specifically san diego (hometown pride!! wahoo!!)... we've got like omdb, the warriors are from near here, i think verse and champion are from here too...

since metalcore and hardcore are my two favorite genres.. i'd say it's pretty close between the US and Germany. eurocore is just amazing, and germany does it best, but you just don't hear pummeling hardcore and straightedge stuff from there... so the US rocks too.

ooh i forgot.. somone mentioned canada.. and canada is pretty ok too. there's a good assortment of metalcore (buried inside...) straight edge (stay gold) and grindcoreish stuff (cryptopsy) from there.

Last I checked.....nobody liked techno. Techno could be played by a 14 year old girl, I think anyway...a lot of people know piano by that age...and of course can sing in a high voice. The only thing missing would the the "duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh," beat in the back of every techno song.

It seems you are ignorant in your knowlege of techno, you can insult it after you can tell your Moby from your Atari Teenage Riot. ;)

as much as i like american and british alt rock bands, i have to say that some of my most favorite bands are canadian garage bands like three days grace and faithdown

makes no sense. rock originated from the blues, which came from mostly southern black guitar players. and they mostly originated from africa, and developed the blues because it sucked to be *surprise*!! OWNED by some white dude who made you pick cotton. the drum stuff ( i.e. the beats,aand 12 bar blues scales.), well , that also came from those guys as well. the united states is a YOUNG country, and we need to stop taking credit for everything.

So black people cant be american?

makes no sense. rock originated from the blues, which came from mostly southern black guitar players. and they mostly originated from africa, and developed the blues because it sucked to be *surprise*!! OWNED by some white dude who made you pick cotton. the drum stuff ( i.e. the beats,aand 12 bar blues scales.), well , that also came from those guys as well. the united states is a YOUNG country, and we need to stop taking credit for everything.

Most slaves were born in America, I think anyway, and besides, whether or not the players were American, the music still originated in America, thus making it(unless I'm missing something) American music. If I went to China and invented a new genre, It would have originated in China, not America.

EDIT: I say most slaves were born in America because they were the sons and daughters of slaves brought from Africa...I think that's how it worked anyway.

the U.S. has the best music, duh!

Really though? I'd say each and every country has their own unique forms of music. I've listened a bit of music from many different countries and I found most of them to be very interesting (sometimes, odd though...).

Britain dude. Britain had the Beatles. Europe had Las Ketchup (urgh... sudden flashback of much pain...).
Britain is in Europe.

It's no contest that it's Europe, in general. When comparing the great artists such as Beethoven or Chopin, all of the 'rock' and 'rap' stuff is just totally obsolete. It shouldn't even be considered.

However, if we're talking about who has the best rock, it's a good contest between the US and the UK. But I'm going to say UK, because they're the birthplace of the best band ever to live: The Beatles.
The Beatles were just1 band You should no bettr u foo. u canot bass the quality of a cuntrys output on the bassis of 1 band. Sillybilly!

For Europe: the countries below the eurosong ranking. ;)

*secretely loves the Festival*

Ireland probably has the most and best musicians per head of population.

Think about it, only 3 million Irish people.

It's gotta be Britain.

Based on this theory:
Time and time again, the US has originated a particular musical genre - be it rock'n'roll, pop, punk, techno, etc.. - then the style gets imported to the UK, where artists 'refine' and alter the style into something more sophisticated, inject new ideas in, make it their own.

Examples:
* Chuck Berry, Elvis, Bill Haley --> the Beatles, Rolling Stones, the Who
* The Stooges, The Ramones, Dead Boys ---> Sex Pistols, the Clash, Gang of Four
* The Pixies, Nirvana ---> (early) Radiohead, Feeder, Six By Seven
* The Rapture, Radio 4 --> Bloc Party, Futureheads

I realise these examples are a bit loose, but I'm pressed for time, and anyway, you get the gist..

* The Stooges, The Ramones, Dead Boys ---> Sex Pistols, the Clash, Gang of Four

It's actually like this.


-[Stooges]---[New York Dolls]-----[Stooges]
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[Ramones]-----[Sex Pistols]-------------
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[Dead Boys]----[The Clash]


Yes, there are lots of bands in between and after, but this is a basic, more accurate tree of influence (and when the bands started). The Ramones did not influence the Sex Pistols, plus they started a whole two years prior (under a different name, without a vocalist, but they still had the same sound in "Did You No Wrong" and "Lazy Sod"). The Sex Pistols did, however, have an influence on the Ramones later on (1978 and on).

The Dead Boys and The Clash are completely unrelated.

it became popular in the UK a few years after rock had originated in the US.

The Clash , the Rolling Stones, yes, but think about how many more bands there are from the US of A.

tosser

Finland and Sweden, home to some of the greatest metal bands in the world. :D

as much as i like american and british alt rock bands, i have to say that some of my most favorite bands are canadian garage bands like three days grace and faithdown

Those aren't garage and indie. Their signed to big international labels. If you want stuff like that go to the Starlight room in Edmonton on a Friday or the Docks in Toronto. The guys who play there are indie. Adenoma is garage (and basement...), Victory is indie, Social Code is indie. And they are all Canadian and kick ass.

Which country do you think has the best music/made the best music and why?


I say US. Rap, Blues, Pop, Rock, Country. It goes on and on.

probably russia and germany in a close lead. alexander borodin from russia and wagner from germany. there's others, but those are my favourites. germany probably has the best though even though i don't like their music as much as russia, just most musically knowing people seem to thing the german music was written better.

Ireland probably has the most and best musicians per head of population.

Think about it, only 3 million Irish people.

Are you saying U2 is actually a good group?

Ugh.

WHAT ABOUT NEW ZEALAND MUSIC?!?!?!?!?!?!

Honestly! The Yanks and the Poms are too busy backslapping each other for having "creative world domination", while not letting bands from other countries get so much as a peek in. :headbang: :mad: :sniper: :headbang:

Good bands/artists from Godzone:
Shihad. (Calling them Pacifier is for n00b fools).
Goldenhorse.
Fat Freddy's Drop.
Tadpole.
8 Foot Sativa.
Black Seeds.
Chris Knox.
Crowded House.
Deja Voodoo.
Trinity Roots.

Oh yeeeeeeah. :cool:

Canada is home to the best band in the world: The Arrogant Worms! Therefore Canada has the best music, at least that's my opinion

Britain. No question. We invented everything but the US always steal it and make money out of it! :sniper:

Germany for Bach, Schubert and Mahler
Austria for Mozart and Beethoven
Italy for Vivaldi and Verdi
Russia for Tchaikovski, Mussorgski and Schostakovitch.

That's GOOD music.
I like Rock music, Punk Rock, Heavy Metal etc as well, but that's just nice to listen to. There's simply no substance

yup, i agree with you, 'cept that you forgot wagner.

As long as I can use a region, Europe wins hands down. To begin with, you have the classical composers: Bach, Beethoven, etc. Take a leap forward of a few hundred years, and the Beatles are making enormous creative leaps. Ten- twenty years on and we have Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, and meanwhile, a quick hop across the channel and then north a bit will get you to the Scandinavian metal scene, responsible for most of the best metal in the world. Of course, you can't forget Germany, with metal of its own, as well as good bands in a lot of other genres.

Although America has admittedly produced some very good music, and India, South America, and the Middle East have done some very interesting things with music, Europe is still top of the pile.

Which is why I said 1975 :D.

Well, the Ramones started in 1974... The Sex Pistols started in 1972, though they changed names (started as The Strand, changed to the Swankers, then finally to the Sex Pistols; Steve Jones and Paul Cook were constants).

1975 is an "average", if you will. It includes the Sex Pistols (1972), the Ramones (1974), The Damned (1975), The Clash (1976), the Buzzcocks (1976), and the Dead Boys (1976)... Among others.I'll take your word on the Sex Pistols starting in '72, since you seem to be the expert. :) But the Ramones released the first punk album, and the Damned the first punk single.

It seems you are ignorant in your knowlege of techno, you can insult it after you can tell your Moby from your Atari Teenage Riot. ;)I can tell the difference, and while I dislike most techno immensely I do have to admit I like Atari Teenage Riot.

It's gotta be Britain.

Based on this theory:
Time and time again, the US has originated a particular musical genre - be it rock'n'roll, pop, punk, techno, etc.. - then the style gets imported to the UK, where artists 'refine' and alter the style into something more sophisticated, inject new ideas in, make it their own.

Examples:
* Chuck Berry, Elvis, Bill Haley --> the Beatles, Rolling Stones, the Who
* The Stooges, The Ramones, Dead Boys ---> Sex Pistols, the Clash, Gang of Four
* The Pixies, Nirvana ---> (early) Radiohead, Feeder, Six By Seven
* The Rapture, Radio 4 --> Bloc Party, Futureheads

I realise these examples are a bit loose, but I'm pressed for time, and anyway, you get the gist..In your first example, you're right. And I'm not all that familiar with the artists in your last example. But in the second and third examples, the US artists are better.

Aussie pub rock is pretty good.

Without a doubt, Mississippi Delta blues is not only the best, but it is also the origin of a majority of the music genres popular today. Musicians from other countries have tried to duplicate the sound, but no one can. I don't think anyone can listen to Muddy Waters and not get a warm smiley feeling.

its plain and simple i think US is winning right now, followed arguably close by britain.,

But in the second and third examples, the US artists are better.

'Tis a matter of taste. Technically, the British bands in the second example were far more talented.

The UK, of course! They do not ride on the wrong side of road for nothing. It means something...
:-)

German and French Romantic. Plus the UK, for both classical and Celtic music.

JPop (the little I've heard), from Japan; Internationale, from France.

In your first example, you're right. And I'm not all that familiar with the artists in your last example. But in the second and third examples, the US artists are better.
Yeah, but then it turns into opinion, and nobody gets anywhere. As for the last example, I love both sides equally.

Although I am English (and an English musician at that) I'm not that patriotic when it comes to favourites. As mentioned elsewhere, I'd pretty much say that Dischord Records make my favourite music. Bands like Bluetip, Q and Not U, Faraquet and the ever-godlike Fugazi..

Fuckin' love the Rapture though, those basslines are exactly, exactly, precisely, with pinpoint accuracy, where it is at, hombre!

But seriously, everybody who possesses ears, gather round for I shall impart the best musical advice you'll hear this year: http://www.thefutureheads.com/ - swing those hips!

(Oh, and www.transmission3000.com - many full live gigs of the indie kind..)

US or Germany

I love rock ... the US has some great stuff so does some of the german bands out there

Aussie pub rock is pretty good.

true :)

Canada City']Are you saying U2 is actually a good group?

Ugh.

of course

Yep, sound very good from the samples I've heard: http://www.nightwish.com/english/mp3.html

Hammerfall is good 2

America has the best music. :( I'm sad to say.

TREASON!

No, I haven't. But they are now on the top of my "to listen to" list. It is nice to hear of another Scandanavian music fan.

Avalya if you like Scandinavian stuff you should listen to Mando Diao, theyre huge in a lot of places including japan, but not here, although they are quite different from what sweden has had soming out recently (like the hives)

as for US starting rock it was obviously a joint effort (beatles, comeAs for folk, the US pretty much has that covered with johnny cash and neo-folk bands like bright eyes, rilo kiley

there's also some cool rock coming out of new zealand like steriogram (more fun than talent). othert than that you'll find a good rock scene anywhere with extreme sports fans, including germany who had a good punk scene for a while

im pretty sure system of a down people are from afghanistan, which is really strange.

other than that if youre a mindless zombie who can forge no other opinion than what you see on mtv or hear on the radio, the US is the place for you!

My opinion is that it really depends on what you're into.

Bang! Bang! Rap Artist drops dead.

:cool: :sniper:



what???????????? "rap artist" ? you surely didn't mean to put these two words side by side, surely.... eh.... I hope so? :rolleyes:

You just gotta love America. Ah? Ah? am i right? for more reasons than one .we got the freedom the army the music the well whats not to love man?
And if you disagree with this post you're probably some pot-smoking commie.
Or perhaps you're british or australian i'm cool with that.
Don't kill me again...

WHAT ABOUT NEW ZEALAND MUSIC?!?!?!?!?!?!

Honestly! The Yanks and the Poms are too busy backslapping each other for having "creative world domination", while not letting bands from other countries get so much as a peek in. :headbang: :mad: :sniper: :headbang:

Good bands/artists from Godzone:
Shihad. (Calling them Pacifier is for n00b fools).
Goldenhorse.
Fat Freddy's Drop.
Tadpole.
8 Foot Sativa.
Black Seeds.
Chris Knox.
Crowded House.
Deja Voodoo.
Trinity Roots.

Oh yeeeeeeah. :cool:



and what about AC/DC ?

Classic Rock RULES in any country or region. :)Which country do you think has the best music/made the best music and why?


I say US. Rap, Blues, Pop, Rock, Country. It goes on and on.

They're from Australia.

Finland. Have none of you heard sonata arctica?

As long as the US is home to Incubus and Ben Kweller we will always have it the best.. just my opinion. (I mean common, who here dosent like Incubus?)

Now UK comes in real close too, theyve got all the classic rock hits, and even some good punkish stuff. Are the Libertines from UK? Im pretty sure they are, one of my favorite groups right there.

Germany of course wins with most heavier rock, obviously their main one being industrial.

other than that if youre a mindless zombie who can forge no other opinion than what you see on mtv or hear on the radio, the US is the place for you!

btw, proud to say that I hate mtv. In fact, most of the music I listen to is Christian rock, so mtv wouldnt even consider playing it.

If you noticed I didnt list any Christian rock because Im avoiding controversy haha.

I'm narrow minded when it comes to music so bear with me, I only listen only to the different genres of rock. But I would have to say the UK simply becuase of Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Sex Pistols, Rolling Stones and The Beatles. Now, I want to stick up for the US with artists/Bands like Elvis Presley, Lynryd Skynryd, Van Halen, and Nirvana. I know I didn't put that many bands but I think these bands had an impact on something. I'm waiting on the next big thing.

As long as the US is home to Incubus and Ben Kweller we will always have it the best.. just my opinion. (I mean common, who here dosent like Incubus?)

I don't like Incubus. That's just my opinon.










Sorry for being and ass....Incubus is okay, just not my style.

Although I am English (and an English musician at that) I'm not that patriotic when it comes to favourites. As mentioned elsewhere, I'd pretty much say that Dischord Records make my favourite music. Bands like Bluetip, Q and Not U, Faraquet and the ever-godlike [COLOR=Red]Fugazi[/COLOROoh Dischord records. Don't forget Minor Threat, Shudder To Think, Slant 6, Autoclave, or Government Issue.

im pretty sure system of a down people are from afghanistan, which is really strange.

System of a Down are (ethnically)Armenian, other side of Iran and north. ;)

System of a Down are (ethnically)Armenian, other side of Iran and north. ;)

Thanks i knew it was somewhere in the Middle East, but still its a strange place for a band like that to come from.

Ooh Dischord records. Don't forget Minor Threat, Shudder To Think, Slant 6, Autoclave, or Government Issue.
Heh heh, yeah..!

Oh! Oh! Oh! Rites of Spring!
Also, honourable mention to Touch and Go (for Shellac and Blonde Redhead mainly), DeSoto and Skin Graft.

Britain doesn't really have any labels to compare with those, except maybe Chemikal Underground, but that's mainly slocore stuff like Mogwai and Arab Strap. All the independents these days seem to be going for that kind of Libertines-pop-jangle thing, which is great and has its place, but am I right in thinking that proper intelligent punk/hardcore is losing ground here, or am I not looking hard enough..? (Well, there's always Jealous Records [http://www.jealousrecords.com/main.html], always out front..)

Greece has the best music. (Vangelis)
Germany and France are close (klaus Schulze, J. M. Jarre)

And yes, of course the Americans invented rock-music, electricity, gun-powder, the wheel, the use of fire, absolutely everything. A hundred thousand years before anybody else came down from the trees.
Pathetic. :(

You forgot the english langauge what would we ever do with out them

Overall, the only country constantly exporting good quality music is BRAZIL.
Their music is very different from the rest of America (incl. Spanish-speaking countries). Their samba, bossa nova, lounge, soft hip-hop, ambiant techno... even their pop music... is always so melodic and charming.
We have heard a lot of Brasilian music in Canada in the last 5 years... now it's playing everywhere in cafés, restaurants, we hear their artists in concerts and festivals... we even have a great Montreal-born "brazilian" singer, named Bïa.
In fact she sings samba mostly, but in 4-5 languages.

The bold ones are hardly in your favour...

Anyway. It's obviously the UK. Other countries I've heard good stuff from are US, Canada, Japan and various parts of Scandinavia.

France is probably the worst I've heard.


But on the other hand, france has more decent classical composers; Chopin, Debussey et al.

Scotland's music scene is pretty damn good too :)

Also, honourable mention to Touch and Go (for Shellac and Blonde Redhead mainly), DeSoto and Skin Graft.Don't forget the Jesus Lizard, Scratch Acid (the band that had a couple of Jesus Lizard members), Big Black and Rapeman (Steve Albini's bands before Shellac), Killdozer, Girls Against Boys, and L7's first album. :)

did anything good ever come out of the US? ...just kidding. Did anyone mention Armenia yet? Isn't that from where the guys from SOAD are coming from?

actually, afghanistan
(just kidding)

its another of those A countries

im only using this for more entries, bitches!SFSDFSDFAERWT represent

AQERAU(WErjuAIER

We have some good music. The (west coast) USA has some good stuff....Sweden has a decent track record considering its size...

But overall, the UK wins.

bahhhhhhhh!

We have some good music. The (west coast) USA has some good stuff....Sweden has a decent track record considering its size...

But overall, the UK wins.


thats so incredibly untrue. Romanian and US

It's split between US, England, and Ireland. Ireland especially - U2 rocks! :D

yeah thats sort of true. US has the quantity, though. I agree we have a bunch of bad music, but US has so much we have a lot of good music too.

i started this post like a year ago. i didnt even know people still wrote in it haha

Music goes beyond borders

US US US US US US US and then some of europe but mainly US, as i have been saying since this was made.

Music goes beyond borders


that was poetic. but even so, US and Romania.

thats so incredibly untrue. Romanian and US

Oh yeah? The Beatles, The Kinks, the Who, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, The Sex Pistols, the Clash, Radiohead...

Hell, the British dominated music from the 60's-80's and they still make decent stuff (Radiohead being the example from the list). Considering their population, they're better proportionally than America.

America does have decent music, but they can't match the impact the British had for most of Rock's history. America only took the crown temporarily in the 80's with hardcore and in the 90's with the grunge explosion.

that was poetic. but even so, US and Romania.
It was. Still true for me though

Oh yeah? The Beatles, The Kinks, the Who, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, The Sex Pistols, the Clash, Radiohead...

Hell, the British dominated music from the 60's-80's and they still make decent stuff (Radiohead being the example from the list). Considering their population, they're better proportionally than America.

America does have decent music, but they can't match the impact the British had.

True. Even with the New York scene (and Minneapolis for its huge underground scene in the 80's) in the late 70's - mid 80's, the U.S. still can't compete with the U.K.

Oh yeah? The Beatles, The Kinks, the Who, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, The Sex Pistols, the Clash, Radiohead...

Hell, the British dominated music from the 60's-80's and they still make decent stuff (Radiohead being the example from the list). Considering their population, they're better proportionally than America.

America does have decent music, but they can't match the impact the British had for most of Rock's history. America only took the crown temporarily in the 80's with hardcore and in the 90's with the grunge explosion.
And even now we have bands like Muse and Radiohead (who you mentioned).

And you forgot people like the Stones, Van Morrisson, The Undertones...and a few more I had in my head but forgot.

you seem to forget who MADE rock in the first place?

you seem to forget who MADE rock in the first place?
The beatles?

you seem to forget who MADE rock in the first place?

No, black americans. :)

The issue at hand should be who perfected it. :D