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If a man wants to attract a woman the instinctive thing to do is to appear strong, confident and emotianally stable. Since survival of the fittest no longer applies to civilised society, flexing your muscles will rarely attract the opposite sex. This is why women are so confusing to men. We don't know what women look for anymore. What do you look for?

brains. yummy.

But I have some brains.....thats about all thats going for me and I have no luck ;).

I seem to have the problem that nobody finds me 'intimately' attractive, so I am only seen as only ever a friend.

But I have some brains.....thats about all thats going for me and I have no luck ;).

I seem to have the problem that nobody finds me 'intimately' attractive, so I am only seen as only ever a friend.
try shower.
no, just kidding. Impossible to say really. I would have to know what you look like but it's quite hard to believe that no one would find you intimately attractive.

Confidence is very appealing

women think they want a sensitive, inteligent man, but they actually go for obnoxious waker types in my experience.

Hence the best tactic is to be overtly obnoxious, but sensitive and brainy underneath.

Money, baby. Just money. :D

women think they want a sensitive, inteligent man, but they actually go for obnoxious waker types in my experience.

Hence the best tactic is to be overtly obnoxious, but sensitive and brainy underneath.
no no no. Way too simple. We want sensitive intelligent men (prefer feminine look) during the firts and last week or menstrual circulation. We want strong, confident alphamales (prefer masculine look) during the second and third week of the circulation. So you have to change every two weeks.

I just don't know how to change your look every two weeks but hey, that's not my problem :D

lmao @ Helioterra; is that really true? And, if so, why can't we just have 2 different guys on rotation? ;)

They usually want a thrill-seeking mature man that knows his values and is unwavering.

I'd want a close friend, with whom I share a sexual spark. The friendship part is hard to do in clubs/pubs etc where everything is initially based on looks...but my boyfriend and I met online so we already knew we got on very well by the time we met, then we realised the 'spark' existed. But the 'spark', and attraction in general, is extremely hard to define. It just depends on individuals, in my humble opinion.

I hear women go for a man with a bulge in his trousers. It's either his willy or his wallet, so they can't lose. :D

lmao @ Helioterra; is that really true? And, if so, why can't we just have 2 different guys on rotation? ;)
maybe we should!
Of course it's not black and white but generally yes, it's true. We want strong alphamales to be the real fathers of our children and the sensitive ones to be the fathers who actually look after these children (which are not theirs) and support the family. You would be amazed to learn how many men look after other men's children in their homes without knowing about it.

I don't know how old you are but women usually notice that they prefer very different kind of men as teenagers and as women. Teenagers prefer feminine faces because they aren't ready to reproduce. When the clock starts ticking we start (usually, I've noticed this) to prefer more masculine men.

Brains, check. Self-esteem and confidence, check. HONESTY, check.

Now, I don't mean OBNOXIOUS honesty. "I think you look like a wounded whale on ice skates in that dress," is a no-no. "I really like that other outfit you asked me about," is better.

But seriously, being honest about who you are and how you feel, instead of what you think the other person wants to hear, is always going to send off more attractive vibes than the cagey 'what does she want me to say?' vibes.

what do women look for in a man? me! :p

sorry, someone had to say it... ;)

maybe we should!
Of course it's not black and white but generally yes, it's true. We want strong alphamales to be the real fathers of our children and the sensitive ones to be the fathers who actually look after these children (which are not theirs) and support the family. You would be amazed to learn how many men look after other men's children in their homes without knowing about it.

I don't know how old you are but women usually notice that they prefer very different kind of men as teenagers and as women. Teenagers prefer feminine faces because they aren't ready to reproduce. When the clock starts ticking we start (usually, I've noticed this) to prefer more masculine men.
so you're saying we just can't win? :headbang:

so you're saying we just can't win? :headbang:
well... life is full of compromises. I'd rather say that WE can't win. ;)

so you're saying we just can't win? :headbang:

I already figured that one out! :p

well... life is full of compromises. I'd rather say that WE can't win. ;)

:p

well... life is full of compromises. I'd rather say that WE can't win. ;)
lol :D

Heart, lungs, liver...possibly boiled in the stomach...

Intelligence, respect for me as an equal, a sense of humour, and enough in common with me to allow for good conversation. A pretty face doesn't go astray either. ;)

Heart, lungs, liver...possibly boiled in the stomach...

Male haggis?

In my experience the girls go for the loud, tattoed, heavy drinking, good looking (?) guy who owes all the other guys money. They ignore the intelligent, responsoble good listener guy (me?). :rolleyes:

A big one.

Male haggis?

Ah, I knew I had them mixed up.

In my experience the girls go for the loud, tattoed, heavy drinking, good looking (?) guy who owes all the other guys money. They ignore the intelligent, responsoble good listener guy (me?). :rolleyes:
Somebody got rejected. Honestly, don't generalise about all women just because of your experiences. It kinda makes you look like on of the jerks you claim not to be. :rolleyes:

If a man wants to attract a woman the instinctive thing to do is to appear strong, confident and emotianally stable. Since survival of the fittest no longer applies to civilised society, flexing your muscles will rarely attract the opposite sex. This is why women are so confusing to men. We don't know what women look for anymore. What do you look for?

Women still want those qualities in a man, but unfortunately too many men erroneously interpret being "strong, confident and emotionally stable" as acting "macho". Uh-uh. Acting macho is a signal to women that you are just the opposite of what you are falsely representing yourself to be. Muscle-flexing comes under the category of acting macho, by the way.

Women also want men who are kind, intelligent and capable. We want a guy with a high financial IQ, but one who's not stingy and Scrooge-like. And no woman wants a man who's all wrapped up in himself, or who couldn't be bothered to give us the time of day until he's feeling horny.

Somebody got rejected. Honestly, don't generalise about all women just because of your experiences. It kinda makes you look like on of the jerks you claim not to be. :rolleyes:

He isn't unfairly generalising. It happens all the time, and in my experience as well is true.

In my experience...it varies from woman to woman and it varies according to their level of maturity.

When young, I've found that women are attracted to healthy bodies and dominant personalities. Why? I think it's just a leftover from evolution. Shack up with the ape that appears to be the future alpha male and you're gonna end up with a decent life.

When mature, I've found that women tend toward intelligence and emotional stability in their long-term mate while still liking to look at the eye candy of a healthy body. If they can find it in the same person, great. But the former outweighs the latter. I think this is again due to evolution...at that point, they want a provider for their children rather than someone who's fun today, but blowing them off tomorrow.

This is why I've always tended toward older women...they know what they want, they've played their games when young and are ready for something real rather than superficial.


Really, it all comes from the same thing. We all have an instinctual urge to pass our DNA on with the greatest chance of long term success. Finding Alpha Males when young gives a good chance that your DNA will be among the leadership class of the future and thus has a better chance of being passed futher. This method, however, is a bit like a lottery in that you're gambling that your selection will pay off in the future (they guy doesn't turn out to be a jerk and becomes successful). Later, you look for what's truly important - the traits that ensure your children (and hence, your DNA) will be raised well and have a good opportunity to pass on the family genetics further.

Hell, that sounds like it's lifted straight out of an L. Ron Hubbard novel, eh?

I don't know how old you are but women usually notice that they prefer very different kind of men as teenagers and as women. Teenagers prefer feminine faces because they aren't ready to reproduce. When the clock starts ticking we start (usually, I've noticed this) to prefer more masculine men.

That's true...I go for different guys now than when I was younger. The main difference, thinking about it, isthat the guys I like now are bigger (& I'm not being rude here!). It's not about rippling muscles & being utterly cut, I just prefer guys with some solidity to them...the reason being that they make me feel more womanly

He isn't unfairly generalising. It happens all the time, and in my experience as well is true.
Hate to break it to you, but women aren't obligated to go out with you, or anyone else, and who they choose to be with is their business. Even if you think he's a dick, there must be something good that she sees in him.

I think this whole "women don't like nice guys" thing is just a load of bullshit self pity.
And saying "In my experence that's how it is" doesn't hold up. In MY experience the opposite is true, so nyah.

Puh lease :rolleyes:

don't delude yourself. you all know what women REALLY want in a guy: Hercules. uber-strong, uber huge muscles, 6-pack uber-abs, etc. and no woman would want an uber-weak guy like me :rolleyes:


seriously though, yes, some women are like that, but not all of them. from what i've heard (and not from experience), most women dig confidence, good humour, personality, etc.

speaking from experience: i've yet to meet a woman who'd actually want a guy like me, or heck, even want me. :p ;) :)

Somebody got rejected. Honestly, don't generalise about all women just because of your experiences. It kinda makes you look like on of the jerks you claim not to be. :rolleyes:
Actually I didn't. But I do have friends (I didn't call them jerks) who are like that and many girls seem to be interested in them.

Thing is that these so called 'wankers' that so called 'nice guys' moan about get the girls cos they're generally the ones with the confidence to approach them. It's sad but true...someone being interested enough to start talking you can be hugely flattering.

That's true...I go for different guys now than when I was younger. The main difference, thinking about it, isthat the guys I like now are bigger (& I'm not being rude here!). It's not about rippling muscles & being utterly cut, I just prefer guys with some solidity to them...the reason being that they make me feel more womanly
Don't know about feeling more womanly but otherwise same here. My boyfriend (it starts to sound quite silly when he's almost 30 but I don't know what to call him. Man doesn't sound right either) is quite slim but still has a quite masculine look.

If a man wants to attract a woman the instinctive thing to do is to appear strong, confident and emotianally stable. Since survival of the fittest no longer applies to civilised society, flexing your muscles will rarely attract the opposite sex. This is why women are so confusing to men. We don't know what women look for anymore. What do you look for?

I've never found women to be confusing. First, you can't make a list and then *change* yourself to match what they're looking for. You're either in, or you're out. Second, women differ from person to person. Yes, there are some common things they all want, but those things are rooted in what you would like as well (not stupid, honest to a fault, pleasant, etc).

I've found that there's a unique tool called "language" and "talking" that really helps you find out what a particular woman wants.

In my experience the girls go for the loud, tattoed, heavy drinking, good looking (?) guy who owes all the other guys money. They ignore the intelligent, responsoble good listener guy (me?). :rolleyes:

So are you saying that you prefer girls over women? Just curious...because if you are interested only in girls, then you are indeed taking the wrong approach. But the paradox here is that an intelligent, responsible, good listener type wouldn't be chasing after girls in the first place.

Women still want those qualities in a man, but unfortunately too many men erroneously interpret being "strong, confident and emotionally stable" as acting "macho". Uh-uh. Acting macho is a signal to women that you are just the opposite of what you are falsely representing yourself to be. Muscle-flexing comes under the category of acting macho, by the way.

Women also want men who are kind, intelligent and capable. We want a guy with a high financial IQ, but one who's not stingy and Scrooge-like. And no woman wants a man who's all wrapped up in himself, or who couldn't be bothered to give us the time of day until he's feeling horny.

That's the type of answer I was looking for. Thank you.

So are you saying that you prefer girls over women? Just curious...because if you are interested only in girls, then you are indeed taking the wrong approach. But the paradox here is that an intelligent, responsible, good listener type wouldn't be chasing after girls in the first place.
A 16 year old intelligent boy should looking after a Woman? Damn he'll be lonely during his teenage years...

I think this whole "women don't like nice guys" thing is just a load of bullshit self pity.
And saying "In my experence that's how it is" doesn't hold up. In MY experience the opposite is true, so nyah.

Really? Can I have some of your friends' phone numbers then?

Hahaha :p

My boyfriend (it starts to sound quite silly when he's almost 30 but I don't know what to call him. Man doesn't sound right either)

tip: I always prefer the word 'lover' ;)

I've never found women to be confusing. First, you can't make a list and then *change* yourself to match what they're looking for. You're either in, or you're out. Second, women differ from person to person. Yes, there are some common things they all want, but those things are rooted in what you would like as well (not stupid, honest to a fault, pleasant, etc).

I've found that there's a unique tool called "language" and "talking" that really helps you find out what a particular woman wants.

I didn't start this thread for tips on increasing my chances. I have heard of 'language' before thank you but what I want out of this thread is to see how varied womens preferences are, since they are all different.

tip: I always prefer the word 'lover' ;)
no, that's for the other one...for the alphamale ;)

It's not a problem in Finnish though.

So are you saying that you prefer girls over women? Just curious...because if you are interested only in girls, then you are indeed taking the wrong approach. But the paradox here is that an intelligent, responsible, good listener type wouldn't be chasing after girls in the first place.

Hehe, well let's clear things up a bit. The "(me?)" in my first post was meant as a joke. I'm not talking about myself, I have been in a relationship for 6-7 years and no I haven't been after chasing girls or women or old ladys or anything else, ever (well, almost ever). I'm very bad at it and I'm very happy for tha fact that the girl/woman/old lady of my dreams picked me up in bar 6-7 years ago.

Thing is that these so called 'wankers' that so called 'nice guys' moan about get the girls cos they're generally the ones with the confidence to approach them. It's sad but true...someone being interested enough to start talking you can be hugely flattering.

Definitely the sad but true thing :headbang: , but going straight up to women, in my mind has never really been the 'nice guy' thing. It is what the 'nice guy' has to learn to do, go up and take the initiative and maybe for once stop the 'wankers' from getting there first.

works for me!

Nice guys of the world, listen up! Learn to approach women! Yeah, you'll get a few knock-backs on the way but each rejection takes you a step closer to finding a great girl ;)

women dont know what they want. if you give them a nice guy,you will end up being just friends. if you are a jerk,they will leave you. what a woman wants changes from one mood swing to the next. she will chase after a guy she thinks she wants,then when she has him,she sleeps with his brother. she will dress like a street walker and then complain that you stare at her tits. she will act like a spoiled child,then whine that you never want to be around her. if you have a gf and you work 60 hrs a week,she will complain that you ignore her. if you only work part time or dont work at all you are a user. you cant win. i have noticed that women pay alot more attention to me when i am dressed nice than they do when i wear jeans and a t-shirt. what does that tell ya,huh? then they start asking questions like,"where do you work?" yeah,money on the brain. muscles no longer give you the edge to keep women,its now about dollar signs. even then they will stay with you for security and cheat on you with the exciting bad boy.

women are psychotic. dont get involved. do your business,then move on. they are sweet as pie until you are married and have kids,then the claws come out.

(2 time marriage survivor)

works for me!

Nice guys of the world, listen up! Learn to approach women! Yeah, you'll get a few knock-backs on the way but each rejection takes you a step closer to finding a great girl ;)
so far this year, i've only been rejected once.

09854739042542390594970238750985093 more years until I find a good mate :( lol

In my experience the girls go for the loud, tattoed, heavy drinking, good looking (?) guy who owes all the other guys money. They ignore the intelligent, responsoble good listener guy (me?). :rolleyes:
I am tattooed, loud and drink large quantities when i drink. But i aint in no debt. And not that good looking. ;) Not intelligent (because that seems exclusive)? Too bad smartass, no hit here. Irresponsible? I handle sensible machinery worth some 100k euros and produce printjobs that have editions numbering into one or two millions.
What does that make me? Obviously your stereotype needs some overhaul. By the way, i heard openmindedness is a plus with the ladies...

so far this year, i've only been rejected once.

09854739042542390594970238750985093 more years until I find a good mate :(

If it's any consolation you live in my favourite US state :)

If it's any consolation you live in my favourite US state :)
kewl :cool: :D :) (and thanks :) )

....

just wait 'till the next ice age :D

women are psychotic. dont get involved. do your business,then move on. they are sweet as pie until you are married and have kids,then the claws come out.

(2 time marriage survivor)
I hope you've learned your lesson and remain single for the rest of your life.

Damnit! How many times do I have to say this before it sinks in???

LISTEN UP, MALE TYPES!

What women want is a man who has a degree of maturity sufficient to be confident of who he is.

What women want is for this type of man to spend enough time to get to know her and make the effort to figure out what she's all about and what she really wants. She may not even know herself exactly what she wants. She's looking for you to be interested enough to peel back the social layers and find the real woman under the roles and mores she has to wear for self-defense.

The very best advice I can offer any man is: be the very best YOU you can be! Then spend some time lookng for the type of woman who's looking for the type of man who is exactly who you are.

Puh lease :rolleyes:

don't delude yourself. you all know what women REALLY want in a guy: Hercules. uber-strong, uber huge muscles, 6-pack uber-abs, etc. and no woman would want an uber-weak guy like me :rolleyes:

seriously though, yes, some women are like that, but not all of them. from what i've heard (and not from experience), most women dig confidence, good humour, personality, etc.

speaking from experience: i've yet to meet a woman who'd actually want a guy like me, or heck, even want me. :p ;) :)

Please. You're still young, and there are plenty of women out there who would love you.

Damnit! How many times do I have to say this before it sinks in???

LISTEN UP, MALE TYPES!

What women want is a man who has a degree of maturity sufficient to be confident of who he is.

What women want is for this type of man to spend enough time to get to know her and make the effort to figure out what she's all about and what she really wants. She may not even know herself exactly what she wants. She's looking for you to be interested enough to peel back the social layers and find the real woman under the roles and mores she has to wear for self-defense.

The very best advice I can offer any man is: be the very best YOU you can be! Then spend some time lookng for the type of woman who's looking for tye type of man who is exactly who you are.

Oh, you sound cute ;)

Oh, you sound cute ;)
LOL! [ blushes ]

Thank you, but my "cute" days are long, long gone. Now I just have to be pleased when any woman under 40 gives me the time of day! :D

women dont know what they want. if you give them a nice guy,you will end up being just friends. if you are a jerk,they will leave you. what a woman wants changes from one mood swing to the next. she will chase after a guy she thinks she wants,then when she has him,she sleeps with his brother. she will dress like a street walker and then complain that you stare at her tits. she will act like a spoiled child,then whine that you never want to be around her. if you have a gf and you work 60 hrs a week,she will complain that you ignore her. if you only work part time or dont work at all you are a user. you cant win. i have noticed that women pay alot more attention to me when i am dressed nice than they do when i wear jeans and a t-shirt. what does that tell ya,huh? then they start asking questions like,"where do you work?" yeah,money on the brain. muscles no longer give you the edge to keep women,its now about dollar signs. even then they will stay with you for security and cheat on you with the exciting bad boy.

women are psychotic. dont get involved. do your business,then move on. they are sweet as pie until you are married and have kids,then the claws come out.

(2 time marriage survivor)

I'm on my third marriage, and I disagree with you. There are women who are assholes, just like there are men who are assholes. So, stay away from assholes.

My third marriage is great. I couldn't have found a better woman. It's all about not hooking up to an asshole.

Damnit! How many times do I have to say this before it sinks in???

LISTEN UP, MALE TYPES!
[snip]
Listen to da Man! He's got centuries of experience. ;)

Please. You're still young, and there are plenty of women out there who would love you.
who would love a hermit? :p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Shaed/01.jpg

Ian. That's what I look for in a man (currently). Be Ian, and you will attract girls like me.

Or, in layman's terms, you really don't want to be Ian, or you'll attract girls like me.

Listen to da Man! He's got centuries of experience. ;)
:eek: "Centuries?" "CENTURIES???" :mp5:

mm, sexy red x of doom.

Will re-edit once I sort that damn thing out.
expect a telegram from me soon... not related to this thread though.

In that case I don't think he's cute anymore!

:eek: "Centuries?" "CENTURIES???" :mp5:
the real Eutrusca
http://www.parmaq.com/kitbuilding/Images/Nosferatu2.jpg

well for me i look for someone who can make me laugh,who is clean and smells nice, someone who is good in bed,and would do anything to please me, someone who isn`t afraid to show he cares about me, who is romantic kind and caring who doesn`t mind staying in at nights who is not afraid to do his share of the housework,and has a great personality, :)

In that case I don't think he's cute anymore!
Whew! For a minute there I thought I was about to lose my uber-ageness! :D

expect a telegram from me soon... not related to this thread though.

Oh yeah, and this seems to be a good time to raise the fact that women don't want to see pictures of a guy in a bikini either. *nods*

Oh yeah, and this seems to be a good time to raise the fact that women don't want to see pictures of a guy in a bikini either. *nods*

I have no idea why you thought that was a good time to raise that point but I agree wholeheartedly!

Shaed, i sent the telegram to your nation.

I have no idea why you thought that was a good time to raise that point but I agree wholeheartedly!

I thought the reasoning was pretty obvious given the context myself :p

oh and i` don`t like handsome men as they are so conceited give me an ordinary man anyday :fluffle:

oh and i` don`t like handsome men as they are so conceited give me an ordinary man anyday :fluffle:


I think a lot of women feel this way. I dont think they like a guy that spends time preening in front of the mirror. Waxing eye brows and facial masks are not for men.
Just regular good grooming- washing, brushing and flossing teeth. I dont even comb my hair-just towel it off a bit and run my fingers through it once or twice. I've been told its a good look and my wife loves it.

I think a lot of women feel this way. I dont think they like a guy that spends time preening in front of the mirror. Waxing eye brows and facial masks are not for men.
Just regular good grooming- washing, brushing and flossing teeth. I dont even comb my hair-just towel it off a bit and run my fingers through it once or twice. I've been told its a good look and my wife loves it.
Me, i'm trying to go for the neanderthal look.

sadly, it seems my body isn't desinged for it :(

*hits subscribe* This thread could be useful...

Me, i'm trying to go for the neanderthal look.

sadly, it seems my body isn't desinged for it :(
ROFLMAO! Um ... weights? :D

the real Eutrusca
http://www.parmaq.com/kitbuilding/Images/Nosferatu2.jpg
ROFL!!! Um ... I never wear clothes like that! :D

ROFLMAO! Um ... weights? :D
lol. i meant my genes. i'm half english, quarter german, quarter polish, so that may be a problem when it comes to trying to grow a viking style beard or a neanderthal style hairdo.

I think a lot of women feel this way. I dont think they like a guy that spends time preening in front of the mirror. Waxing eye brows and facial masks are not for men.
Just regular good grooming- washing, brushing and flossing teeth. I dont even comb my hair-just towel it off a bit and run my fingers through it once or twice. I've been told its a good look and my wife loves it.

Unless he has a monobrow. Although plucking > waxing.

ROFL!!! Um ... I never wear clothes like that! :D
hmm, maybe you should, maybe you should...
I'm sure you've noticed (through several vampiremovies) that they seem to have some magical powers to attract young females. It just might be the costume :D

btw there's a hint to all lonely guys. Become vampires and the girls will do anything to get near you.

Unless he has a monobrow. Although plucking > waxing.

Meh, I shave that area.

lol. i meant my genes. i'm half english, quarter german, quarter polish, so that may be a problem when it comes to trying to grow a viking style beard or a neanderthal style hairdo.

And living in Minnesota? Interesting!

hmm, maybe you should, maybe you should...
I'm sure you've noticed (through several vampiremovies) that they seem to have some magical powers to attract young females. It just might be the costume :D

btw there's a hint to all lonely guys. Become vampires and the girls will do anything to get near you.

Now I'm going to throw a spanner in the works! Personally, I don't find the whole vampire thing in the least bit sexy or erotic. I actually think guys that take that whole look a leetle too far just look a leetle bit sad ;)

And living in Minnesota? Interesting!
actually, that's just what i was told (and it holds true, you know ;) ). my birthmother abandoned me in colorado (my birthland) at 3 months and disappeared, so there's only the records that the government does have.

Now I'm going to throw a spanner in the works! Personally, I don't find the whole vampire thing in the least bit sexy or erotic. I actually think guys that take that whole look a leetle too far just look a leetle bit sad ;)
blaah, it'd have been interesting to see how many guys would actually listen to my great advices and wear that kind of clothing tomorrow...

blaah, it'd have been interesting to see how many guys would actually listen to my great advices and wear that kind of clothing tomorrow...

oops! sorry!

hmm, maybe you should, maybe you should...
I'm sure you've noticed (through several vampiremovies) that they seem to have some magical powers to attract young females. It just might be the costume :D

btw there's a hint to all lonely guys. Become vampires and the girls will do anything to get near you.
Are you trying to say that women like to be sucked? :eek:

Are you trying to say that women like to be sucked? :eek:

I'd say something smutty but there could be children reading this

I'd say something smutty but there could be children reading this

That never stops me. I'm a cunning linguist, see.

If a man wants to attract a woman the instinctive thing to do is to appear strong, confident and emotianally stable. Since survival of the fittest no longer applies to civilised society, flexing your muscles will rarely attract the opposite sex. This is why women are so confusing to men. We don't know what women look for anymore. What do you look for?
Survival of the fittest does not mean the survival of the physically fit. It means the survival of the one who can produce the most viable offspring. Usually, this means they have to be healthy in rder to reach breeding age and sufficiently able to find and provide food for the offspring, however, one does not have to be Schwarzenegger(sp?) in order to do that.

And aside from that, the human animal does not just strive to procreate. We mate for companionship as well... as a result we do look for people who are emotionally stable, caring, trustworthy, intelligent (or at least reasonably so) perhaps someone who could look after us in our old age, someone to confide in, a shoulder to cry on, somone to take care of... et c. And even then, these are not universal, different people want different things. There is no universal "women want this" there is a "some women want this, others want this..."

That never stops me. I'm a cunning linguist, see.

lol.

lol. i meant my genes. i'm half english, quarter german, quarter polish, so that may be a problem when it comes to trying to grow a viking style beard or a neanderthal style hairdo.

Here's something that might help - you're engaged in self-fulfilling prophecy.

If you go around saying, "I'll never find a woman to love me" or "No woman would want me", then it comes true.

See how powerful your thought energy is? You should try saying something different.

such as:

"A woman hotter than Jennifer Lopez and Angelina Jolie put together will want to make mad, passionate love to me."

hmm, maybe you should, maybe you should...
I'm sure you've noticed (through several vampiremovies) that they seem to have some magical powers to attract young females. It just might be the costume :D

btw there's a hint to all lonely guys. Become vampires and the girls will do anything to get near you.
Actually, if you recall, vampires also have hypnotic powers with which they can lure women.

And also, the whole vampire thing was more of a repressed era's sexual expression, it was more about penetration than blood sucking.

Here's something that might help - you're engaged in self-fulfilling prophecy.

If you go around saying, "I'll never find a woman to love me" or "No woman would want me", then it comes true.

See how powerful your thought energy is? You should try saying something different.

such as:

"A woman hotter than Jennifer Lopez and Angelina Jolie put together will want to make mad, passionate love to me."
i wish it were that easy. i've pretty much given up on finding a girl - i don't think i'm loveable or desirable. much as i'd love to raise a family & have kids & stuff, it just isn't going to happen. i feel no amount of positive thinking is going to change that :(

TPE:
NS is being a prat and won't load, so I can't check my TGs. And I have to go sleep now (12:50am here >.<) becaues I have far, far too much work to do tomorrow morning. 'll get back to you tomorrow night-ish though.

Just thought I'd make sure you don't end up thinking I'm ignoring you or anything daft like that :p

i wish it were that easy. i've pretty much given up on finding a girl - i don't think i'm loveable or desirable. much as i'd love to raise a family & have kids & stuff, it just isn't going to happen. i feel no amount of positive thinking is going to change that :(

That's what I used to think.

Now I'm on my third marriage. And I have three children.

Always with the negative waves, man. Can't you say something righteous for a change?

i wish it were that easy. i've pretty much given up on finding a girl - i don't think i'm loveable or desirable. much as i'd love to raise a family & have kids & stuff, it just isn't going to happen. i feel no amount of positive thinking is going to change that :(

well, when you're not even attempting the positive thinking, as evidenced by your post, it's definitely not going to work. And ultimately, if you like yourself you are much more likeable to other people, whether that leads onto relationships of that nature or not

well, when you're not even attempting the positive thinking, as evidenced by your post, it's definitely not going to work. And ultimately, if you like yourself you are much more likeable to other people, whether that leads onto relationships of that nature or not
i understand the logic of it, but i just don't know how to do it


Always with the negative waves, man. Can't you say something righteous for a change?

lol, sorry dude :(
i'm ruining the karma up in here :p

We don't know what women look for anymore. What do you look for?
Man, there seem to be a lot of these threads around nowadays.

i understand the logic of it, but i just don't know how to do it

lol, sorry dude :(
i'm ruining the karma up in here :p

Learn to love yourself first. If you really love yourself, women will see it. It will make you attractive.

Hence the common phrase I used to hear in my youth, "Get a life!"

As an extra hint, make sure you fall in love with a woman who loves herself. If she hates herself, you're in for living hell.

i understand the logic of it, but i just don't know how to do it


Sweetie, as with most people who give advice, I'm uch better at suggesting things to other people than applying them to myself. All I'm reiterating there are things that get said to me, most of which I have trouble with in my own life...tho, obviously, the things that get said to me are slightly different cos I'm a girl & I'm not trying to pick up other girls ;)

Sweetie, as with most people who give advice, I'm uch better at suggesting things to other people than applying them to myself. All I'm reiterating there are things that get said to me, most of which I have trouble with in my own life...tho, obviously, the things that get said to me are slightly different cos I'm a girl & I'm not trying to pick up other girls ;)
Learn to love yourself first. If you really love yourself, women will see it. It will make you attractive.

Hence the common phrase I used to hear in my youth, "Get a life!"

As an extra hint, make sure you fall in love with a woman who loves herself. If she hates herself, you're in for living hell.
argh... how does one love oneself? :confused:

gah, cheers for the advice & trying anyhow :)
don't want to hijack this thread any more than is necessary;)

argh... how does one love oneself? :confused:


Easy.

Make a list of numbers from 1 to 10. Starting with 1, put down the activity you MOST like to do (aside from sex). Keep making the list down to 10.

It should be a list of things you truly enjoy doing with yourself - or with a few non-romantic friends.

Then go out and do those things with a passion. Really enjoy yourself.

You'll find that you're happier. Women WILL notice the attitude.

There are bound to be some women who will like the same things - don't fall for a woman who wants to stop you from doing those things.

It takes time, yes. But you can enjoy life while you wait for her to show up.

argh... how does one love oneself? :confused:

gah, cheers for the advice & trying anyhow :)
don't want to hijack this thread any more than is necessary;)

Sent you a TM, sweetie :)

Easy.

Make a list of numbers from 1 to 10. Starting with 1, put down the activity you MOST like to do (aside from sex). Keep making the list down to 10.

It should be a list of things you truly enjoy doing with yourself - or with a few non-romantic friends.

Then go out and do those things with a passion. Really enjoy yourself.

You'll find that you're happier. Women WILL notice the attitude.

There are bound to be some women who will like the same things - don't fall for a woman who wants to stop you from doing those things.

It takes time, yes. But you can enjoy life while you wait for her to show up.
ok, but thats hard to do when you don't really enjoy anything you do.

but enough about me. lets not turn this into a depress-fest

But these things are also applicable to people generally; like I said at the start, confidence is very appealing, so all these techniques for building confidence help someone become attractive to a member of the opposite sex.

no no no. Way too simple. We want sensitive intelligent men (prefer feminine look) during the firts and last week or menstrual circulation. We want strong, confident alphamales (prefer masculine look) during the second and third week of the circulation. So you have to change every two weeks.
A-ha, is this a joke?

what do women look for in a man? me! :p

No dude, it's "What do I look for in a woman? Me!"

you all know what women REALLY want in a guy: Hercules.
Awww, what, we have to be demi-gods now? ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Shaed/01.jpg

Ian. That's what I look for in a man (currently). Be Ian, and you will attract girls like me.
Well, my name is Ian, but I don't wear a shark's jaw or glasses.

well for me i look for someone who can make me laugh,who is clean and smells nice, someone who is good in bed, and would do anything to please me, someone who isn`t afraid to show he cares about me, who is romantic kind and caring who doesn`t mind staying in at nights who is not afraid to do his share of the housework,and has a great personality.
What the hell? This is crap! You attract him, you don't own him.

*hits subscribe* This thread could be useful...
Don't count on it.

i wish it were that easy. i've pretty much given up on finding a girl - i don't think i'm loveable or desirable. much as i'd love to raise a family & have kids & stuff, it just isn't going to happen. i feel no amount of positive thinking is going to change that :(
What the hell is with so many depressed males on this site?

Forget those bad vibes!

maybe we should!
Of course it's not black and white but generally yes, it's true. We want strong alphamales to be the real fathers of our children and the sensitive ones to be the fathers who actually look after these children (which are not theirs) and support the family. You would be amazed to learn how many men look after other men's children in their homes without knowing about it.

I don't know how old you are but women usually notice that they prefer very different kind of men as teenagers and as women. Teenagers prefer feminine faces because they aren't ready to reproduce. When the clock starts ticking we start (usually, I've noticed this) to prefer more masculine men.

So that's why only teenage women want me. Hey, wait a minute.

I appreciate a guy with strong charecter. Really, if he's the sort of guy that is consistent in his honesty, maturity, and gentleness in all situations than I know that's he's going to be like that no matter what. There's a security in that. Not to say that he may not be goofy, and strong... but, that can be a part of his strong charecter. Be who you are all the time.

But these things are also applicable to people generally; like I said at the start, confidence is very appealing, so all these techniques for building confidence help someone become attractive to a member of the opposite sex.
Indeed. Most likely confidence is the one characteristic that can be said to be universally attractive.

ok, but thats hard to do when you don't really enjoy anything you do.
Not even this?
http://www.halkans.com/images/470gibson.jpg

Hate to break it to you, but women aren't obligated to go out with you, or anyone else, and who they choose to be with is their business. Even if you think he's a dick, there must be something good that she sees in him.

I think this whole "women don't like nice guys" thing is just a load of bullshit self pity.
And saying "In my experence that's how it is" doesn't hold up. In MY experience the opposite is true, so nyah.

I think it tends to be true when women (and men) are younger and it tends to flip as people get older. Some men decide this is true when they are young and never change their opinion when the women start looking for something more meaningful and long-term. It's not entirely bullshit, but it's also not a very accurate picture of what's going on.

I treat women very well, and I admit I have a very difficult time finding someone worth dating, but this is more due to high expectations than lack of opportunities.

I think if the people who claim to be the nice guy, really are, they wouldn't dismiss the selection process of women and boil it down to "I'm perfect and she just doesn't want me because I'm nice".

tip: I always prefer the word 'lover' ;)

Yeah, unless you're talking to your parents. "Mom, I'd like you to meet my lover, Jennifer." "MOM, WAKE UP!!"

It's a ridiculous question because different women want different things. I don't know any two women who have exactly the same taste, would rank things exactly the same or go after exactly the same people. Other than personal tastes, situations in your life, past experiences, current position and other relationships will all affect what women want. Different people like different people and sooner or later anyone out there single will find a person suited to them who they'll be able to start a relationship with that they are both willing and eager to work on to make it the best it possibly can be.

And PM, the doing things you enjoy is a good thing to do. It sure helped me out of depression. Maybe right now you don't find it enjoyable but think back to things you have found enjoyable or new experiences you think you'd find enjoyable or make times for enjoyable things you don't have the time for. Often you can forget how much fun something is.

Also don't leave it vague. Sometimes that works but for me I had to plan out my days so that I made sure I fitted in these fun things ranging from small things to big things and it got me into a habit of being more active.

Talking of being active, even the smallest bit of exercise such as walking places more is good for your mood, figure, health and also might mean you meet someone!

Another (slightly weird to do but great) idea is asking people to list good qualities about you. I did that as part of my therapy and it felt really strange asking people to do it but the responses I got were fantastic and it was around then that my self image started to increase and I realised I actually was a nice person, a good friend and interesting to know. Finding people you trust to boost your confidence is a great idea.

I can start you off.... kind and caring, makes me laugh and smile, good sense of humour, great musical taste, passionate about things that matter to him, gorgeous brown eyes and longish thick brown hair (yay-my fave), comes across as intelligent and an expert fluffler :fluffle: :p

But seriously, any girl would be lucky to have you and the sooner you realise that the better :)

Here's something that might help - you're engaged in self-fulfilling prophecy.

If you go around saying, "I'll never find a woman to love me" or "No woman would want me", then it comes true.

See how powerful your thought energy is? You should try saying something different.

such as:

"A woman hotter than Jennifer Lopez and Angelina Jolie put together will want to make mad, passionate love to me."

OMG, I just thought that and it happened. You're a genius, WL (can't hear that enough can you)!!! Now my desk is a mess and my boss is pissed, but I'm grinning from ear to ear and so is Angelina Jennifer Jopez.

I appreciate a guy with strong charecter. Really, if he's the sort of guy that is consistent in his honesty, maturity, and gentleness in all situations than I know that's he's going to be like that no matter what. There's a security in that. Not to say that he may not be goofy, and strong... but, that can be a part of his strong charecter. Be who you are all the time.
Good advice, although not always easy for most to follow. Unfortunately, we're all taught to play roles depending on who we're with and where. :(

I think it tends to be true when women (and men) are younger and it tends to flip as people get older. Some men decide this is true when they are young and never change their opinion when the women start looking for something more meaningful and long-term. It's not entirely bullshit, but it's also not a very accurate picture of what's going on.

I treat women very well, and I admit I have a very difficult time finding someone worth dating, but this is more due to high expectations than lack of opportunities.

I think if the people who claim to be the nice guy, really are, they wouldn't dismiss the selection process of women and boil it down to "I'm perfect and she just doesn't want me because I'm nice".
It's mostly self-defensive behavior. It helps to believe that the reason the object of your desires doesn't want you is because you're "too nice."

Reverse the roles for a moment and ask, "What would be my reaction if I had to choose between two women? One of them is totally drop-dead gorgeous, with [ insert desired characteristics here ]. The other is somewhat of a "plain Jane," who doesn't wear the latest fashions, has glasses, and smells more like plain soap rather than the most trendy eu de stinkum.

Who would you spring for?

Most likely the "bombshell." Yet some of the most interesting and most sensuous women I have ever met were the "plain Janes." Like you, many of them are just waiting for the right combination of gentleness and love to blossom.

Think about it.

OMG, I just thought that and it happened. You're a genius, WL (can't hear that enough can you)!!! Now my desk is a mess and my boss is pissed, but I'm grinning from ear to ear and so is Angelina Jennifer Jopez.

I hope you don't work with food. :eek:

I hope you don't work with food. :eek:

No, my coworkers are people. What a weird thing for you to say!

No, my coworkers are people. What a wierd thing for you to say!

Weird? I'm offended. You'll be hearing from my lawyer.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Mouldy_bread.jpg

It's mostly self-defensive behavior. It helps to believe that the reason the object of your desires doesn't want you is because you're "too nice."

Reverse the roles for a moment and ask, "What would be my reaction if I had to choose between two women? One of them is totally drop-dead gorgeous, with [ insert desired characteristics here ]. The other is somewhat of a "plain Jane," who doesn't wear the latest fashions, has glasses, and smells more like plain soap rather than the most trendy eu de stinkum.

Who would you spring for?

Most likely the "bombshell." Yet some of the most interesting and most sensuous women I have ever met were the "plain Janes." Like you, many of them are just waiting for the right combination of gentleness and love to blossom.

Think about it.

No, I wasn't implying that my high standards were related to looks. One, I have no 'type' when it comes to looks. The physical appearance of my girlfriends have run the gammut. I've dated girls from over a dozen different countries with every color skin, hair, eyes, lipstick, etc. Two, I've never turned down a woman for a date and I've asked many women out that I wasn't entirely sure was a good idea. Basically, I'll give almost any woman one date to see if it's worth putting more time and effort into and to let them make the same decision.

I agree with you that I would take the plain Jane with everything else going for her than a bombshell that had slightly less going for her. Plus, like everything I think looks are subjective. What I would consider a bombshell may be completely unattractive to you and vice versa.

Plus, I think the fact that if I poked you with a pin a bunch of dust would spill out onto the floor would suggest you and I would be looking for slightly different things in the looks department.

i am now giving up on my Mrs Robinson fantasy and am looking for a 30 something male, ex-military, sometimes baseball player.

Seriously, I want someone who is respectful, loving, passionate, witty, with a strong character but who wants a strong woman. i don't want a bully. i don't want a jerk. i don't want someone to complete me. I want someone to share things with. I could list many characteristics, but those are fundamental. the others are just icing on the cake.

Weird? I'm offended. You'll be hearing from my lawyer.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Mouldy_bread.jpg

Well, I'm offended that you suggested my coworkers were food. Are you calling them nuts, fruits and vegetables? You're such an insensitive pig. My lawyer is bigger than your lawyer and can kick your lawyer's ass.

ok you guys want the TRUTH?

here it is

first of all if you are wondering why the alpha-female head-cheerleader drop-dead-gorgeous straight-A blonde bombshell (or its equivalent) doesnt want to date the pimply-faced introverted nerd who cant even look her in the eye let alone talk to her, well its because you are fishing in the wrong pond, son.

you cant catch a barracuda with 5 pound test line. turn your head and look at the pimply-faced introverted nerd GIRL next to you. theres a fish you can land. maybe after youve caught a few trout you can move up to deap sea fishing but its not gonna be any time soon.

the truth is that that nerd girl will be a much better match to you, make you happier in the long run, and appreciate what you do for her more than the alpha female ever could.

what do women want in a man? they want to feel better about themselves when they are with you than when they are away from you. they want a man who makes them feel special, loved, appreciated and lucky to be with him. they want a man who is fun to be with, who is passionate about them and life in general. they want a man who thinks they are pretty and smart. they want to FEEL pretty and smart when they are with him.

she doesnt so much fall for you (love takes time) as she falls for the way she feels about herself when she's with you. the more mature she is the more she doesnt rely on the superficial rewards (dating the captain of the football team even though he treats her like crap) and focuses on the character and personality of the man she dates.

there are plenty of women/girls out there who would give a man/boy like you a try. look for girls who have similar interests and start asking them out. it just might happen that one of them is perfect for you. you cant know until you get started.

i am now giving up on my Mrs Robinson fantasy and am looking for a 30 something male, ex-military, sometimes baseball player.

Seriously, I want someone who is respectful, loving, passionate, witty, with a strong character but who wants a strong woman. i don't want a bully. i don't want a jerk. i don't want someone to complete me. I want someone to share things with. I could list many characteristics, but those are fundamental. the others are just icing on the cake.

Dammit. I was almost there, but I only play softball.

Dammit. I was almost there, but I only play softball.

that'll do in a pinch *winks*

ok you guys want the TRUTH?

here it is

first of all if you are wondering why the alpha-female head-cheerleader drop-dead-gorgeous straight-A blonde bombshell (or its equivalent) doesnt want to date the pimply-faced introverted nerd who cant even look her in the eye let alone talk to her, well its because you are fishing in the wrong pond, son.

you cant catch a barracuda with 5 pound test line. turn your head and look at the pimply-faced introverted nerd GIRL next to you. theres a fish you can land. maybe after youve caught a few trout you can move up to deap sea fishing but its not gonna be any time soon.

the truth is that that nerd girl will be a much better match to you, make you happier in the long run, and appreciate what you do for her more than the alpha female ever could.

what do women want in a man? they want to feel better about themselves when they are with you than when they are away from you. they want a man who makes them feel special, loved, appreciated and lucky to be with him. they want a man who is fun to be with, who is passionate about them and life in general. they want a man who thinks they are pretty and smart. they want to FEEL pretty and smart when they are with him.

she doesnt so much fall for you (love takes time) as she falls for the way she feels about herself when she's with you. the more mature she is the more she doesnt rely on the superficial rewards (dating the captain of the football team even though he treats her like crap) and focuses on the character and personality of the man she dates.

there are plenty of women/girls out there who would give a man/boy like you a try. look for girls who have similar interests and start asking them out. it just might happen that one of them is perfect for you. you cant know until you get started.

That's so true. I always love when some friend of mine complains that some beautiful woman is shallow because she won't give him the time of day, but he only cares if the beautiful women give him the time of day.

I can't think of any more ways to include time of day so I'm going to end it here --->

Well, I'm offended that you suggested my coworkers were food. Are you calling them nuts, fruits and vegetables? You're such an insensitive pig. My lawyer is bigger than your lawyer and can kick your lawyer's ass.

My lawyer doesn't have an ass. In fact, if you tried kicking it, it would shoot fungus spores at you and infect you with anthrax. My lawyer rules.

that'll do in a pinch *winks*

mmmm... pinchy

Note: I'm really weird today for some reason (hey, look at that I spelled weird right on the first try)

Women look for money..

Plain and simple.

Atleast I havent met any other type.

Love.. it's just a word without meaning. Just like truth or commitment.

My lawyer doesn't have an ass. In fact, if you tried kicking it, it would shoot fungus spores at you and infect you with anthrax. My lawyer rules.

What if I tried sauteeing it in a buttery sauce? Then I'd put him on a nice juicy steak. How would your lawyer like them apples? Yeah, that's right. I'd put apples on the steak too. We all know fungus-spore-shooting lawyers hate apples, so apples your lawyer shall have. Bwah-ah-ah!

Women look for money..

Plain and simple.

Atleast I havent met any other type.

Love.. it's just a word without meaning. Just like truth or commitment.

I really don't think that's true. The proportion of materialist money-whores among women is equal to that of men. And most people are after something more.

What if I tried sauteeing it in a buttery sauce? Then I'd put him on a nice juicy steak. How would your lawyer like them apples? Yeah, that's right. I'd put apples on the steak too. We all know fungus-spore-shooting lawyers hate apples, so apples your lawyer shall have. Bwah-ah-ah!

Whatever. I'll pay you a dollar if you eat it. :p

Women look for money..

Plain and simple.

Atleast I havent met any other type.

Love.. it's just a word without meaning. Just like truth or commitment.

You're not looking in the right place.

Whatever. I'll pay you a dollar if you eat it. :p

*gulp* Now you're out one dollar and one lawyer, you calling-people-food bigot!

Women look for money..

Plain and simple.

Atleast I havent met any other type.

Love.. it's just a word without meaning. Just like truth or commitment.
I feel very sorry for you. Please broaden your social circle. :(

...I can only speak for myself: I'm looking for a man who plays "settlers of catan" and has nice ears.

*gulp* Now you're out one dollar and one lawyer, you calling-people-food bigot!

You're out one gastro-intestinal tract, so we'll call it even. :D

ok you guys want the TRUTH?

here it is

first of all if you are wondering why the alpha-female head-cheerleader drop-dead-gorgeous straight-A blonde bombshell (or its equivalent) doesnt want to date the pimply-faced introverted nerd who cant even look her in the eye let alone talk to her, well its because you are fishing in the wrong pond, son.

you cant catch a barracuda with 5 pound test line. turn your head and look at the pimply-faced introverted nerd GIRL next to you. theres a fish you can land. maybe after youve caught a few trout you can move up to deap sea fishing but its not gonna be any time soon.


Hate to burst your bubble, but...

I was the pimply faced introverted nerd when I was in high school.

Then, after I graduated from college, I enlisted in the infantry.

And when I came home, no one recognized the ripped individual with the short haircut and the major ego repair job. Self-confident, not over-confident, I proceeded to date and then marry the alpha-female head-cheerleader drop-dead-gorgeous straight-A copper-haired bombshell.

Twice married like that. Just married another one.

I've met many people I went to high school and college with - and no one recognizes me - in fact, when told who I am they can't believe it.

Four or five years of working out physically, working on learning to love myself, and not hate who I saw in the mirror, and getting some confidence went a LONG way.

My current wife is 30 - and drop dead gorgeous. I'm 44, and like the volleyball player in the Bowflex commercial, I'm in the best shape of my life.

You're out one gastro-intestinal tract, so we'll call it even. :D
What are YOU doing still up? :P

And sure I can introduce you to my friends. Heh. Although most of them ARE in relationships... *pats*

You're out one gastro-intestinal tract, so we'll call it even. :D

If you can invent spore lawyers, then I can invent... a sauteed-spore-lawyer/apple/steak-resistant digestive tract. That's right, check and mate, my friend. Now where's my dollar? Oh, and the other million you just lost in court because the judge didn't believe the old "the defendent ate my lawyer" trick.

Hate to burst your bubble, but...

I was the pimply faced introverted nerd when I was in high school.

Then, after I graduated from college, I enlisted in the infantry.

And when I came home, no one recognized the ripped individual with the short haircut and the major ego repair job. Self-confident, not over-confident, I proceeded to date and then marry the alpha-female head-cheerleader drop-dead-gorgeous straight-A copper-haired bombshell.

Twice married like that. Just married another one.

I've met many people I went to high school and college with - and no one recognizes me - in fact, when told who I am they can't believe it.

Four or five years of working out physically, working on learning to love myself, and not hate who I saw in the mirror, and getting some confidence went a LONG way.

My current wife is 30 - and drop dead gorgeous. I'm 44, and like the volleyball player in the Bowflex commercial, I'm in the best shape of my life.

That's essentially what happened to me. Though I like to refer to it as growing into my head. I had this enormous head when I was a teenager so I looked like a croquet mallet when I walked around and then I hit about nineteen and gained about 35 pounds of muscle and suddenly my huge head looked quite appropriate.

That's essentially what happened to me. Though I like to refer to it as growing into my head. I had this enormous head when I was a teenager so I looked like a croquet mallet when I walked around and then I hit about nineteen and gained about 35 pounds of muscle and suddenly my huge head looked quite appropriate.

Not all of the cheerleader types age well, either. Some look like ten miles of bad road now.

And some of the wallflowers from high school days matured into bodacious women with maturity, intellect, and looks.

So if you're a young female cheerleader type, take a long, last look at your face and body, because it's all downhill from there as gravity and life take over.

Hate to burst your bubble, but...

{*snip*}

Twice married like that. Just married another one.

{*snip*}


Um ....

'Couse you may have something there. Mebbie I should date an Army type girly.

Is England single?

Mmmmm.... leashes ....
:p

Not all of the cheerleader types age well, either. Some look like ten miles of bad road now.

And some of the wallflowers from high school days matured into bodacious women with maturity, intellect, and looks.

So if you're a young female cheerleader type, take a long, last look at your face and body, because it's all downhill from there as gravity and life take over.

Not all of the cheerleader types were shallow and hurtful. I remember quite a few them fondly (no, not in that way, TPE). And I've seen some of them since (I'm 30) and the look quite good.

I agree with the sentiment though, as we age, most of us start to see confidence and caring as sexy. Confident women also don't spend all of their time in tanning beds so their skin doesn't look like leather, eeew.

Hate to burst your bubble, but...

I was the pimply faced introverted nerd when I was in high school.

Then, after I graduated from college, I enlisted in the infantry.

Dude if you enlistited in the military how come you post like a liberal pussy ass.


Twice married like that. Just married another one.

Is that something to be proud of.

I've met many people I went to high school and college with - and no one recognizes me - in fact, when told who I am they can't believe it.

Four or five years of working out physically, working on learning to love myself, and not hate who I saw in the mirror, and getting some confidence went a LONG way.

My current wife is 30 - and drop dead gorgeous. I'm 44, and like the volleyball player in the Bowflex commercial, I'm in the best shape of my life.
Their are two possibilities I can see for you posting this. One you are a liar. Two your dreaming. Wakey wakey.

Hate to burst your bubble, but...

I was the pimply faced introverted nerd when I was in high school.

Then, after I graduated from college, I enlisted in the infantry.

And when I came home, no one recognized the ripped individual with the short haircut and the major ego repair job. Self-confident, not over-confident, I proceeded to date and then marry the alpha-female head-cheerleader drop-dead-gorgeous straight-A copper-haired bombshell.

Twice married like that. Just married another one.

I've met many people I went to high school and college with - and no one recognizes me - in fact, when told who I am they can't believe it.

Four or five years of working out physically, working on learning to love myself, and not hate who I saw in the mirror, and getting some confidence went a LONG way.

My current wife is 30 - and drop dead gorgeous. I'm 44, and like the volleyball player in the Bowflex commercial, I'm in the best shape of my life.

So...let's think about this my naive little friend. You're 44 and on Nation States. It sounds to me like you're still the pimple-faced introverted nerd. If you DID in fact join the infantry, I bet you were a cook, a pimple-faced introverted nerd/cook with a physique of a manatee. If I knew you when you came back from the infantry on your ego trip, I would have kicked your ass in front of your overly obese wives. Let's be honest here, shall we? You're some loser 44 year old with a hard-on for lying just to make yourself feel a few inches longer than you actually are. And if you really want to know what a man is like...ask for a picture of me.

So...let's think about this my naive little friend. You're 44 and on Nation States. It sounds to me like you're still the pimple-faced introverted nerd. If you DID in fact join the infantry, I bet you were a cook, a pimple-faced introverted nerd/cook with a physique of a manatee. If I knew you when you came back from the infantry on your ego trip, I would have kicked your ass in front of your overly obese wives. Let's be honest here, shall we? You're some loser 44 year old with a hard-on for lying just to make yourself feel a few inches longer than you actually are. And if you really want to know what a man is like...ask for a picture of me.
Feeling some pain their man?! Ha you guys suck remain single and keep your money.

So...let's think about this my naive little friend. You're 44 and on Nation States. It sounds to me like you're still the pimple-faced introverted nerd. If you DID in fact join the infantry, I bet you were a cook, a pimple-faced introverted nerd/cook with a physique of a manatee. If I knew you when you came back from the infantry on your ego trip, I would have kicked your ass in front of your overly obese wives. Let's be honest here, shall we? You're some loser 44 year old with a hard-on for lying just to make yourself feel a few inches longer than you actually are. And if you really want to know what a man is like...ask for a picture of me.

No, I was in the infantry. 2/502nd Infantry, 101st Airborne (Air Assault).
If you want to know what a man is like, ask for a copy of my DD 214.

And I, or even my wife, could kick most men's asses.

Dude if you enlistited in the military how come you post like a liberal pussy ass.

How do I post like a liberal? I've always been a Republican.

Is that something to be proud of.

No, but it shows I can get back up again.

Their are two possibilities I can see for you posting this. One you are a liar. Two your dreaming. Wakey wakey.

No, it's very true. In fact, why don't you come visit, and I'll show you.

No, I was in the infantry. 2/502nd Infantry, 101st Airborne (Air Assault).
If you want to know what a man is like, ask for a copy of my DD 214.

And I, or even my wife, could kick most men's asses.

WL, don't feed the trolls, man. You know who you are. Who cares if they do? Report it and move on.

Twice married like that. Just married another one.

You're 44 and been married three times? Wow. just wow.

I don't know if I'd be proud to claim the same thing.

I love a man in uniform.... *wink*

So...let's think about this my naive little friend. You're 44 and on Nation States. It sounds to me like you're still the pimple-faced introverted nerd. If you DID in fact join the infantry, I bet you were a cook, a pimple-faced introverted nerd/cook with a physique of a manatee. If I knew you when you came back from the infantry on your ego trip, I would have kicked your ass in front of your overly obese wives. Let's be honest here, shall we? You're some loser 44 year old with a hard-on for lying just to make yourself feel a few inches longer than you actually are. And if you really want to know what a man is like...ask for a picture of me.


Now, guys, this is what girls hate. Nothing wrong with self-confidence...however, when it crosses the line to misplaced arrogance it's a major turn-off.

As a quick aside to Ishballa: Aren't you posting on NS as well? Wouldnt that negate everything you claimed about yourself simply by your own arguments? Moron.


Back to the matter at hand: I've found that Eutrusca and WL have some good points about self-confidence. While my wife was here, I was never really happy because I didnt have time to do the things I loved doing - camping, working on my truck, playing soccer, etc. Now that she's moved back to Oklahoma, it's an entirely different life I lead. I feel like I've 'found myself' again, and have noticed I carry and present myself much differently than I did while she was here.

Of course, now I'm back to being 'intimidating' when it comes to meeting women...a guy just can't win :eyeroll:

You're 44 and been married three times? Wow. just wow.

I don't know if I'd be proud to claim the same thing.

No one asks for that to happen. But it's important to keep moving, and not lose faith in women.

The third time seems to be working just fine. And who is to say that I should have been all-wise and knowing for the first marriage?

You're 44 and been married three times? Wow. just wow.

I don't know if I'd be proud to claim the same thing.

Proud? He was just stating that he has experience. In some of his earlier posts, he mentioned that he made some mistakes but now he is very happy with his current wife. You can't fault the path too much when you arrive at the right destination.

Puh lease :rolleyes:

don't delude yourself. you all know what women REALLY want in a guy: Hercules. uber-strong, uber huge muscles, 6-pack uber-abs, etc. and no woman would want an uber-weak guy like me :rolleyes:


seriously though, yes, some women are like that, but not all of them. from what i've heard (and not from experience), most women dig confidence, good humour, personality, etc.

speaking from experience: i've yet to meet a woman who'd actually want a guy like me, or heck, even want me. :p ;) :)

RIGHT ON BROTHER! Also in my experiences...I have found that being a jerk with huge muscles gets you much further with the ladies then being intelligent and funny. I am kinda skinny...no muscle...and still very lonely. I have never had a girl friend because I dont measure up obviously.

"No muscles, no money, no looks, NO LADY!"

Hate to burst your bubble, but...

I was the pimply faced introverted nerd when I was in high school.

Then, after I graduated from college, I enlisted in the infantry.

And when I came home, no one recognized the ripped individual with the short haircut and the major ego repair job. Self-confident, not over-confident, I proceeded to date and then marry the alpha-female head-cheerleader drop-dead-gorgeous straight-A copper-haired bombshell.

Twice married like that. Just married another one.

I've met many people I went to high school and college with - and no one recognizes me - in fact, when told who I am they can't believe it.

Four or five years of working out physically, working on learning to love myself, and not hate who I saw in the mirror, and getting some confidence went a LONG way.

My current wife is 30 - and drop dead gorgeous. I'm 44, and like the volleyball player in the Bowflex commercial, I'm in the best shape of my life.
is that supposed to show that i was wrong? seems to me that it shows exactly what i was talking about.

Proud? He was just stating that he has experience. In some of his earlier posts, he mentioned that he made some mistakes but now he is very happy with his current wife. You can't fault the path too much when you arrive at the right destination.
Never let life get you down. If you're still alive, it's a good thing, and you can always wake up tomorrow and try it all over again.

It's just as hard for girls actually.

We're continually bombarded by pictures of what we're supposed to look like, with massive chests and stick thin legs - and sometimes I get so sick of that. I have plenty of friends who don't have that physique, and they're constantly discouraged. It sucks.

But not for me, with my dazzling perfection *ahem*.

RIGHT ON BROTHER! Also in my experiences...I have found that being a jerk with huge muscles gets you much further with the ladies then being intelligent and funny. I am kinda skinny...no muscle...and still very lonely. I have never had a girl friend because I dont measure up obviously.

"No muscles, no money, no looks, NO LADY!"


Woah, you forgot something...it should be:


"No muscles, no money, no looks, no balls, NO LADY!"

Of course, you could probably remove the first 3 and it'd still be true. I'm not particularly muscular, and trust me - I dont have much money, nor am I all that good looking...but that hasnt stopped me from having a very...active...dating life in the past.

RIGHT ON BROTHER! Also in my experiences...I have found that being a jerk with huge muscles gets you much further with the ladies then being intelligent and funny. I am kinda skinny...no muscle...and still very lonely. I have never had a girl friend because I dont measure up obviously.

"No muscles, no money, no looks, NO LADY!"

Are you only looking at the women that have the right body, the right looks, etc.? If so, aren't you doing exactly what you're complaining about. I find it hard to believe that every quality woman is dating a jerk with huge muscles. My guess is you're looking for the wrong women (read: shallow).

Woah, you forgot something...it should be:


"No muscles, no money, no looks, no balls, NO LADY!"

Of course, you could probably remove the first 3 and it'd still be true. I'm not particularly muscular, and trust me - I dont have much money, nor am I all that good looking...but that hasnt stopped me from having a very...active...dating life in the past.

Yes, I would agree with that.

It's just as hard for girls actually.

We're continually bombarded by pictures of what we're supposed to look like, with massive chests and stick thin legs - and sometimes I get so sick of that. I have plenty of friends who don't have that physique, and they're constantly discouraged. It sucks.

But not for me, with my dazzling perfection *ahem*.


But that's not what all guys want. I prefer a girl that has some muscle to her. There's something about a stick figure that strikes me as being not quite healthy. And...trust me...I've dated girls of all kinds of builds.

Yes, I would agree with that.

In the same sense that women tend to avoid men who don't like themselves, it was a very important lesson for me to learn not to like women who don't like themselves.

A woman can be extremely good looking, and still hate herself - go figure.

And when someone (man or woman) hates themself, watch out.

Are you only looking at the women that have the right body, the right looks, etc.? If so, aren't you doing exactly what you're complaining about. I find it hard to believe that every quality woman is dating a jerk with huge muscles. My guess is you're looking for the wrong women (read: shallow).


No no no no NO! I dont even like the "supermodel" type. Because they are so shallow. But even the "quality girls" seem to slowly falling to the evil of shallowness (is that even a word?) EVERY decent girl that I have seen is either alone because they cant meet there "prince charming" with the looks and muscles and they refuse to date us average guys. Or, they are going out with the muscle head jerks. I see it everyday man...and its really getting annoying.

Just because I dont have the looks or muscles I guess I'm doomed to be alone forever just because ALL girls are getting really shallow? And they wonder why suicide is increasing all the time!

No no no no NO! I dont even like the "supermodel" type. Because they are so shallow. But even the "quality girls" seem to slowly falling to the evil of shallowness (is that even a word?) EVERY decent girl that I have seen is either alone because they cant meet there "prince charming" with the looks and muscles and they refuse to date us average guys. Or, they are going out with the muscle head jerks. I see it everyday man...and its really getting annoying.

Just because I dont have the looks or muscles I guess I'm doomed to be alone forever just because ALL girls are getting really shallow? And they wonder why suicide is increasing all the time!


Are you still in High School / College?

But that's not what all guys want. I prefer a girl that has some muscle to her. There's something about a stick figure that strikes me as being not quite healthy. And...trust me...I've dated girls of all kinds of builds.

Dammit, stop saying things I agree with. I sound like a lackey.

Seriously, listen to what the guys here are saying. For every guy you meet there is another body style that they like. I prefer curvy women who are healthy. When I was young I dated a bulemic and since have placed being healthy over being skinny on the sexy meter. I like a woman whose lap feels soft when I put my head in it... to watch a movie, of course.

No no no no NO! I dont even like the "supermodel" type. Because they are so shallow. But even the "quality girls" seem to slowly falling to the evil of shallowness (is that even a word?) EVERY decent girl that I have seen is either alone because they cant meet there "prince charming" with the looks and muscles and they refuse to date us average guys. Or, they are going out with the muscle head jerks. I see it everyday man...and its really getting annoying.

Just because I dont have the looks or muscles I guess I'm doomed to be alone forever just because ALL girls are getting really shallow? And they wonder why suicide is increasing all the time!

How many of them have you asked out? If the answer is not ALL of them, then your research isn't very compelling.

Are you still in High School / College?


No, I graduated almost a year ago and I am currently employed.

No, I was in the infantry. 2/502nd Infantry, 101st Airborne (Air Assault).
If you want to know what a man is like, ask for a copy of my DD 214.

And I, or even my wife, could kick most men's asses.
Ahem! :D

No, I graduated almost a year ago and I am currently employed.

Graduated High School or College?

Here's something else that the girls need to avoid - a mall ninja.

A mall ninja is someone who has to have all the latest and greatest tactical gear. If the SEALs or Delta Force use it, he must have it. He is in Condition Red at all times, including while sleeping, if he sleeps. He has so much Class IV body armor that he makes the Hollywood bank robbers look like they were wearing skimpy lingerie in comparison. He will not buy a pistol unless it has a rail, night sights, a laser, and a tactical white light. The minimum caliber he will use in a bolt-action rifle is .338 Lapua and the rifle must shoot sub-1/2 MOA out to 1500 meters. Any semiautomatic rifle he uses must have a rail adapter system and he leaves no inch of Picatinny rail unused. He only wears BDUs or 5.11 clothing. He carries duct tape and 550 cord at all times. He hasn't worn regular shoes in years, just tactical or combat boots. Dressing casual always involves a photographer's vest. He carries at least two BUGs on each ankle. He feels naked without some sort of thigh rig on. Blackhawk, Eagle, Surefire, and Safariland all send him their latest products and just deduct the cost out of his bank account "to cut down on red tape". He has special shoes that allow him to walk up walls. He is a black belt in at least three forms of martial arts. He sets off CS grenades in his house to "acclimate himself to the effects". He considers pepper spray a condiment. He has replaced all glass in his house with bulletproof Lexan. He only drinks out of a Camelback. He thinks that hand grenades are a perfectly acceptable self-defense weapon. He has a knife in every pocket and four on his belt. His car has been up-armored. He fires a minimum of 400 rounds a day to "stay in practice". Speed-dial #1 on his phone is Brigade Quartermasters. He sleeps with eye and ear protection on. He complains that Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, Valhalla, and all the other training institutes are teaching outdated material, even though he has never been to any one of them. He has subscriptions to every gun magazine available, but complains that their gun tests aren't tough enough since they don't measure accuracy while shooting from a moving helicopter. He believes that the true measure of a man is how much Cordura nylon he owns. He uses a Pelican case for an overnight bag. He often attempts to CCW a shotgun, claiming that it is perfectly normal to do so because the shotgun has a pistol grip. The Matrix is his favorite movie. He has a trauma plate surgically implanted in his skull. He complains about the lack of transferable M203 40mm grenade launchers. He doesn't want to join the military because they won't accept him into SOCOM based on only an interview. He makes fun of people in the military. He thinks that SWAT teams should play a backup role to him when the SHTF. He carries a ghillie suit in the trunk of his car at all times. He only works jobs that have a badge.

He also wonders why everyone is always making fun of him. Probably because he is only a mall security guard and he looks pretty stupid wearing all that stuff to work.

How many of them have you asked out? If the answer is not ALL of them, then your research isn't very compelling.


I have asked out quite a few average girls...got rejected everytime...the only ones I didnt ask out are the ones that I knew before hand only liked me as a friend and nothing more. And I actually prefer the non-supermodel, average looking girls. But even they are getting to be shallow more and more everyday. Because the all want the rich, muscle head jerks!

*Within the time it took me to type this I am guessing that at least 3 guys killed themselves because of emotional stress caused by shallow girls*

Here's something else that the girls need to avoid - a mall ninja.

A mall ninja is someone who has to have all the latest and greatest tactical gear. If the SEALs or Delta Force use it, he must have it. He is in Condition Red at all times, including while sleeping, if he sleeps. He has so much Class IV body armor that he makes the Hollywood bank robbers look like they were wearing skimpy lingerie in comparison. He will not buy a pistol unless it has a rail, night sights, a laser, and a tactical white light. The minimum caliber he will use in a bolt-action rifle is .338 Lapua and the rifle must shoot sub-1/2 MOA out to 1500 meters. Any semiautomatic rifle he uses must have a rail adapter system and he leaves no inch of Picatinny rail unused. He only wears BDUs or 5.11 clothing. He carries duct tape and 550 cord at all times. He hasn't worn regular shoes in years, just tactical or combat boots. Dressing casual always involves a photographer's vest. He carries at least two BUGs on each ankle. He feels naked without some sort of thigh rig on. Blackhawk, Eagle, Surefire, and Safariland all send him their latest products and just deduct the cost out of his bank account "to cut down on red tape". He has special shoes that allow him to walk up walls. He is a black belt in at least three forms of martial arts. He sets off CS grenades in his house to "acclimate himself to the effects". He considers pepper spray a condiment. He has replaced all glass in his house with bulletproof Lexan. He only drinks out of a Camelback. He thinks that hand grenades are a perfectly acceptable self-defense weapon. He has a knife in every pocket and four on his belt. His car has been up-armored. He fires a minimum of 400 rounds a day to "stay in practice". Speed-dial #1 on his phone is Brigade Quartermasters. He sleeps with eye and ear protection on. He complains that Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, Valhalla, and all the other training institutes are teaching outdated material, even though he has never been to any one of them. He has subscriptions to every gun magazine available, but complains that their gun tests aren't tough enough since they don't measure accuracy while shooting from a moving helicopter. He believes that the true measure of a man is how much Cordura nylon he owns. He uses a Pelican case for an overnight bag. He often attempts to CCW a shotgun, claiming that it is perfectly normal to do so because the shotgun has a pistol grip. The Matrix is his favorite movie. He has a trauma plate surgically implanted in his skull. He complains about the lack of transferable M203 40mm grenade launchers. He doesn't want to join the military because they won't accept him into SOCOM based on only an interview. He makes fun of people in the military. He thinks that SWAT teams should play a backup role to him when the SHTF. He carries a ghillie suit in the trunk of his car at all times. He only works jobs that have a badge.

He also wonders why everyone is always making fun of him. Probably because he is only a mall security guard and he looks pretty stupid wearing all that stuff to work.

ROFL

Graduated High School or College?

High school. I'm not going to college. I'm not exactly "college material" plus they dont offer anything I was interested in anyways.

brains. yummy.

Its not intelligence itself that women find attractive, but more of an 'intelligence match'. In other words women want to be impressed by someone who is witty and knowledgable, but they dont want a know-it all.

Stupid women tend to be attracted to stupid guys, and intelligent women tend to be attracted to intelligent guys. I never realized this until I left University (when I was at University I was surrounded by well educated girls that were attracted to intelligent guys, and I assumed that all girls were like this). But when I left University I learnt that the great majority of women are not particularly bright and tend to be more attracted to stupid guys that do not intimidate them, have the same level of toilet humour as them, and can identify with.

I have asked out quite a few average girls...got rejected everytime...the only ones I didnt ask out are the ones that I knew before hand only liked me as a friend and nothing more. And I actually prefer the non-supermodel, average looking girls. But even they are getting to be shallow more and more everyday. Because the all want the rich, muscle head jerks!

*Within the time it took me to type this I am guessing that at least 3 guys killed themselves because of emotional stress caused by shallow girls*

You're flat out wrong man. It's about how you approach them. Of course, these days, I dont really approach many girls. I just let them find their way to me, lol.

When you meet a girl, dont be so worried about dating her. Just, meet her. Be willing to get to know her - i.e. show interest in her, not in dating her. There's a difference...

High school. I'm not going to college. I'm not exactly "college material" plus they dont offer anything I was interested in anyways.

Well, your problem is that you're probably no more than 20, so the girls you're interested in dating are still 'living in high school' and havent yet begun to really mature.

You're flat out wrong man. It's about how you approach them. Of course, these days, I dont really approach many girls. I just let them find their way to me, lol.

When you meet a girl, dont be so worried about dating her. Just, meet her. Be willing to get to know her - i.e. show interest in her, not in dating her. There's a difference...

When I met my current wife, and we had finished our first real conversation, she said, "you're the first man I've ever met who didn't flirt with me or try to talk about sex right off the bat."

It was a good thing.

Its not intelligence itself that women find attractive, but more of an 'intelligence match'. In other words women want to be impressed by someone who is witty and knowledgable, but they dont want a know-it all.

Stupid women tend to be attracted to stupid guys, and intelligent women tend to be attracted to intelligent guys. I never realized this until I left University (when I was at University I was surrounded by well educated girls that were attracted to intelligent guys, and I assumed that all girls were like this). But when I left University I learnt that the great majority of women are not particularly bright and tend to be more attracted to stupid guys that do not intimidate them, have the same level of toilet humour as them, and can identify with.

For the most part...WRONG! I asked out a girl who isnt too bright (your typical blonde) and I am NOT bright by any means either...and we often end up not getting alot of things or asking stupid questions because thats just the way we are...but anyways...asked her out...REJECTION!

Women say they want smart, sensitive guys, then they leave them to run off with a bodybuilder named Dolf.

You're flat out wrong man. It's about how you approach them. Of course, these days, I dont really approach many girls. I just let them find their way to me, lol.

When you meet a girl, dont be so worried about dating her. Just, meet her. Be willing to get to know her - i.e. show interest in her, not in dating her. There's a difference...


I tried that with them! We became really good friends..but when it came to the thought of dating. It was flat out rejection everytime!

Women say they want smart, sensitive guys, then they leave them to run off with a bodybuilder named Dolf.


EXACTLY!!!!!!

Women say they want smart, sensitive guys, then they leave them to run off with a bodybuilder named Dolf.

Only because he's got more testicular fortitude than the sensitive guy. I'm telling you - the balls to talk to a girl will win you more than anything else you can do for her. Carry her books to school for 12 years without really talking to her and you still wont have gotten as far as the guy that will walk up to her and talk to her.

Women say they want smart, sensitive guys, then they leave them to run off with a bodybuilder named Dolf.
No, younger women, like younger men, can't make up their mind who they like.

Both genders tend to wander around aimlessly.

Anyways....I will not be able to read anymore replies. So if you replied to my last post then I'm sorry. However I would like to still read them and keep in touch with ya's...maybe I will get some advice? Anyways e-mail me at

kingkobra619@myway.com

include in the subject something about the nature of this thread or whatever. Like "girl troubles" or something. And include your name you post with on here after you done with your message (or done bitching me out ;) ) Later!

Jennifer says she likes mentaly strong men.

Jeffory is not mentaly strong, just an asshole. : \

I asked her if she thinks i'm sharp-minded too and she's like "I guess, but you're so random and unpreditictable it's hard to tell"

Which is kindof true.. XP

I tried that with them! We became really good friends..but when it came to the thought of dating. It was flat out rejection everytime!

Don't rush it to happen. My wife and I were friends for 4-5 years before we started dating. Granted, the marriage hasnt worked out so well...but that doesnt mean that either of us are really at fault - we just weren't really ready to be married.

Give the friendship time. When she comes home crying after her last 'herculean-type' boyfriend dumped her because she wouldnt put out, she's going to turn to her friends. Eventually, she'll mature and realize that you've been there for her the whole time - and then she'll turn to you.

Relationships. No wonder a topic gets 180 posts in 7 hours.

Yes, I will be a good example; I will stop posting off-topic, now.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

Only because he's got more testicular fortitude than the sensitive guy. I'm telling you - the balls to talk to a girl will win you more than anything else you can do for her. Carry her books to school for 12 years without really talking to her and you still wont have gotten as far as the guy that will walk up to her and talk to her.

I remember one time in 1989 coming home on leave, and seeing my old non-military friends. They said, "let's go down to xxx (a local strip club)". Having seen more strip clubs outside of Ft. Campbell than I'd ever like to see again, I reluctantly agreed. You aren't going to find any women to go home with at a strip club.

So, we're in downtown DC, and this girl is dancing nude in front of our table, and one of my friends is beside himself - he thought she was so hot. So I said, "well, she'll be done in a minute. Why don't you talk to her?"

He froze up, as though she was some sort of alien. I saw her as someone doing her job at work, and maybe if she had a minute, we could talk to her.

After her set, she walked over to the bar, and I got up and went and talked to her. I said, "My friend over there is really taken with you, and I'd appreciate it if you would come and sit with us for a minute, and talk with him."

Because I treated her like a normal person at a normal place of work, and wasn't rude, crude, suggestive, or insulting, she pleasantly agreed and sat with us for the next hour.

While I had a good time talking to her, the other guys were frozen in a rictus of fear. To this day, I still don't get it. I felt that I had passed them by - being able to talk to an attractive, completely naked woman just as though we were neighbors at the fence.

Uhm...When I sense "desperation" or bitterness in a girl I find it a big turnoff, I think most men do. Maybe it's the same with women? Maybe that's why so many of you seem to scare off the girls? (judging on what I've read in this thread)

MMMM boys, I love one that likes to cuddle in front of a warm fire but that is only good for so long so I extremely like one that likes to get down and dirty on my call. He should also be extrmely outgoing and spontaneous just like me.

Uhm...When I sense "desperation" or bitterness in a girl I find it a big turnoff, I think most men do. Maybe it's the same with women? Maybe that's why so many of you seem to scare off the girls? (judging on what I've read in this thread)
Most, but not all women, can detect bullshit.
But ALL women can smell "desperate" a thousand yards away.

Women look for sincerity and integrity. Stop attempting to "figure women out" and simply accept them for what they are. They are no less---and no more---human or sophisticated than men. The best way to attract a woman is to actually SEE her, and not a hyped-up caraciture of what you expect an idealized woman to be. Appreciate her beauty, acknowledge and accept her flaws. Trade insults and compliments honestly. Don't patronize her in an effort to "win her attention;" it's pointless and self-defeating.

To attract any woman, you have to be confident and content with yourself as a man (or woman, as the situation applies.) You have to love and appreciate all the things that are unique---and common---about yourself, and don't be afraid to express those things. Don't apologize for genuineness, and apologize for injuries you inflict on others. It really, really isn't a mystery, folx.

After all, women are out looking for simple human contact----just like men.


Well, except for those into beastiality. But that's another thread entirely! >:)

For the most part...WRONG! I asked out a girl who isnt too bright (your typical blonde) and I am NOT bright by any means either...and we often end up not getting alot of things or asking stupid questions because thats just the way we are...but anyways...asked her out...REJECTION!

You're young. You'll see. This changes. Also, considering many skinny, geeky, not bright guys (in your age group) are dating girls, I think it's unlikely that you're just undateable.

I have a 3.3 my class's president am captain of the X-country team, Prom King. I also walk around like an arrogant ass joking and having fun every second of every day. Why do girls treat me like I'm the shit

Most, but not all women, can detect bullshit.
But ALL women can smell "desperate" a thousand yards away.

I think men can smell desperation too...I know I can. I'm not really well built, I've got loads of nasty habits and I don't have much money. But I get by fine. Girls like art students, I guess :)

Its not intelligence itself that women find attractive, but more of an 'intelligence match'. In other words women want to be impressed by someone who is witty and knowledgable, but they dont want a know-it all.

I'll agree with that. As far as intelligence goes, I wouldn't really care if the guy I dated were smart in the sense that everything came easily to him, as long as he had motivation to do well, cared about getting ahead in life and set goals for himself. In other words, someone who's not a bum.

When you meet a girl, dont be so worried about dating her. Just, meet her. Be willing to get to know her - i.e. show interest in her, not in dating her. There's a difference...

I'll also agree with that. I'm in college right now, and it seems like every male here is more interested in sex than an actual relationship, which, I suppose is understandable since they're young guys away from home, but I still think it's stupid.

-Georgia

Most, but not all women, can detect bullshit.
But ALL women can smell "desperate" a thousand yards away.

That's why we all find that as soon as we're dating someone the women come out of the woodwork. This is because a single kiss from a good woman can dust off the desperate and smear you with Pledge(tm).

I remember one time in 1989 coming home on leave, and seeing my old non-military friends. They said, "let's go down to xxx (a local strip club)". Having seen more strip clubs outside of Ft. Campbell than I'd ever like to see again, I reluctantly agreed. You aren't going to find any women to go home with at a strip club.

So, we're in downtown DC, and this girl is dancing nude in front of our table, and one of my friends is beside himself - he thought she was so hot. So I said, "well, she'll be done in a minute. Why don't you talk to her?"

He froze up, as though she was some sort of alien. I saw her as someone doing her job at work, and maybe if she had a minute, we could talk to her.

After her set, she walked over to the bar, and I got up and went and talked to her. I said, "My friend over there is really taken with you, and I'd appreciate it if you would come and sit with us for a minute, and talk with him."

Because I treated her like a normal person at a normal place of work, and wasn't rude, crude, suggestive, or insulting, she pleasantly agreed and sat with us for the next hour.

While I had a good time talking to her, the other guys were frozen in a rictus of fear. To this day, I still don't get it. I felt that I had passed them by - being able to talk to an attractive, completely naked woman just as though we were neighbors at the fence.
hahhahahah

what IS it about a naked woman that just freezes some men up??

I never feel any sympathy for girls when they say that their boyfriend cheated on them. Thats what you get for being attracted to guys that practicaly ignore you!

Everytime I meet a girl that I could imagine myself being totally loyal too, I cant help but be nice to her and show her attention and I always seem to get rejected.

Then with the mediocre girls that I am not particularly interested in, well I practically ignore them and this makes them want to sleep with me!
How can you be so stupid! If a guy shows no interest in you, its not because he is cool, for god's sake its because he doesn't think you are special!

Why cant girls work out for themslelves who are the cool guys? Another one of my peeves is when you show you are interested in a girl and she rejects you, the minute she sees any other girl trying to pull you, she is immediately attracted to you again! Its as if she needs to see that other girls are interested in you before she can make up her owm mind about whether you are attractive. How stupid!

Why cant you girls just use your own "women's intuition" to work out who are the real genuine cool nice guys?

I really do get the feeling that one of the biggest common denominators between the people who claim to be nice, sensitive, caring, good listeners, etc. is that there seems to be a shortage in the 'positive attitude' department. My basis for this being, of course, the whole, 'Ah, shit. they only go for the wankers' attitude that seems to be endemic in the discussion.

I mean, how can you expect a woman to like you if you're prone to not only being generally negative for life due to a few negative experiences. Also, women being governed by fundamentally the same psychology as males, they'll obviously find the generalisations you make about all women to be a little offencive.

But what do I know, right? I'm just some 18 year old kid on a message board. ;)

I never feel any sympathy for girls when they say that their boyfriend cheated on them. Thats what you get for being attracted to guys that practicaly ignore you!

Everytime I meet a girl that I could imagine myself being totally loyal too, I cant help but be nice to her and show her attention and I always seem to get rejected.

Then with the mediocre girls that I am not particularly interested in, well I practically ignore them and this makes them want to sleep with me!
How can you be so stupid! If a guy shows no interest in you, its not because he is cool, for god's sake its because he doesn't think you are special!

Why cant girls work out for themslelves who are the cool guys? Another one of my peeves is when you show you are interested in a girl and she rejects you, the minute she sees any other girl trying to pull you, she is immediately attracted to you again! Its as if she needs to see that other girls are interested in you before she can make up her owm mind about whether you are attractive. How stupid!

Why cant you girls just use your own "women's intuition" to work out who are the real genuine cool nice guys?

Because that's not how it works.

You're not as cool and nice as you think.

You're as cool and nice as *she* thinks.

And calling her stupid isn't helpful.

hahhahahah

what IS it about a naked woman that just freezes some men up??

LOL, I dunno. I could regale you guys with stories of my friends and myself at the strip club. Personally, I went to the strip club because it was the only place open between 2am and 4am that wasnt someone's apartment / house...

My friends and I were pretty, um, used to seeing nude females...we'd go into the strip club and close it out just sitting around talking.

Feet. Women want big sexy feet.

Most, but not all women, can detect bullshit.
But ALL women can smell "desperate" a thousand yards away.

No, women are notoriously bad at smelling "desperate", which is why they always end up getting hurt by desperate guys that will sleep with anything that moves. Women constantly mistake genuine guys that are looking for their 1 in a million girl as "depserate", because they actually show more interest in them than the kind of guys that will sleep with any old girl that comes their way. But it's their loss.

And calling her stupid isn't helpful.

Obviuosly I would not call a girl I liked stupid, the whole point of these forums is they are anonymous. I can get away with saying things like that without it affecting anything in the real world.

No, women are notoriously bad at smelling "desperate", which is why they always end up getting hurt by desperate guys that will sleep with anything that moves. Women constantly mistake genuine guys that are looking for their 1 in a million girl as "depserate", because they actually show more interest in them than the kind of guys that will sleep with any old girl that comes their way. But it's their loss.
You're wrong. See, those guys arent that desperate. They're just assholes - they can get a piece of ass anywhere they want and they know it. That's not desperate.

a penis.. *nod* women want men with boy parts

No, women are notoriously bad at smelling "desperate", which is why they always end up getting hurt by desperate guys that will sleep with anything that moves. Women constantly mistake genuine guys that are looking for their 1 in a million girl as "depserate", because they actually show more interest in them than the kind of guys that will sleep with any old girl that comes their way. But it's their loss.

Um, treating a girl you barely know like you'll never do better than her is desperate. In the sense that it was being used in the post your replied to, guys that are looking to just get laid and don't care who are not desperate (though they are quite sad).

Obviuosly I would not call a girl I liked stupid, the whole point of these forums is they are anonymous. I can get away with saying things like that without it affecting anything in the real world.

No, you won't CALL them stupid. You'll only THINK it. And then you complain that they don't know how nice and understanding you are. Maybe she's not as stupid as you claim and she was intuitive enough to notice that you don't respect women for their opinions unless their opinion is that you're god's gift to them.

You're showing your stripes and I think most people who have heard what you think of women wouldn't let you date their sister. You think that's because you're "too nice" or because you don't seem to respect women?

No, women are notoriously bad at smelling "desperate", which is why they always end up getting hurt by desperate guys that will sleep with anything that moves. Women constantly mistake genuine guys that are looking for their 1 in a million girl as "depserate", because they actually show more interest in them than the kind of guys that will sleep with any old girl that comes their way. But it's their loss.

Do any of the guys in here sound like they are looking for a 1 in a million girl? Read the thread over, what you will see is a bunch of guys asking "how can I alter myself so girls will like me?" or stating "I tried this and I tried that but it didn't work". That is desperation.

Um, treating a girl you barely know like you'll never do better than her is desperate. In the sense that it was being used in the post your replied to, guys that are looking to just get laid and don't care who are not desperate (though they are quite sad).

In the words of the great Brian Griffin:

OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!

In the words of the great Brian Griffin:

OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!

I was thinking the same thing, you pecker.

You're showing your stripes and I think most people who have heard what you think of women wouldn't let you date their sister. You think that's because you're "too nice" or because you don't seem to respect women?

Indeed.

Reading over this thread it's blindingly obvious the kind of guys on here who I (and most women) would pick.

RIGHT ON BROTHER! Also in my experiences...I have found that being a jerk with huge muscles gets you much further with the ladies then being intelligent and funny. I am kinda skinny...no muscle...and still very lonely. I have never had a girl friend because I dont measure up obviously.

"No muscles, no money, no looks, NO LADY!"

TPE, New Emerica... i would agree with Neut and Jocabia.

TPE, we've talked about this before. I want someone who has balls, damnit! I won't want a wallflower. I am no wallflower, shy at times, sure, but no wallflower, and I don't want to be the bulldozer in the relationship. i want a partnership. If i have to mother you and baby you, then forget it. it has nothing to do with muscles, or money, or looks. All my exs were stick figures!!! And nerdy!!!

So, sorry to burst your self-effacing bubble there. IMO, you need to rethink your position.

guys that are looking to just get laid and don't care who are not desperate (though they are quite sad).?

What? So you are saying that guys that will sleep with anyone are not desperate? If they are not desperate then who the hell is?

Maybe she's not as stupid as you claim and she was intuitive enough to notice that you don't respect women for their opinions unless their opinion is that you're god's gift to them.

You are writting as if this is based on one particular girl, but my opinion does not derive from one single experience, it is based on a plethora of experiences over the years.

You're showing your stripes and I think most people who have heard what you think of women wouldn't let you date their sister.

Yes, you are right. But the sad fact is that I was not always like this, I used to think very highly of women because I was brought up in a family with outstanding women. But back then I never got laid. I only started being succesful with women when I picked up this negative attitude towards them, it was only then that I began to understand what attracts most women. So this is further evidence of how bad women are at judging men's character.

I am sorry if I offend anyone, but I the entire idea of this thread is absolutely ridiculous.
Differnet women look for different qualities in different men.
Asking for one universal answer is impossible unless you desire complete generalisations. Not to mention, you are asking a personal question on a forum on the internet...

Indeed.

Reading over this thread it's blindingly obvious the kind of guys on here who I (and most women) would pick.

Let me guess, that's not the bitter, 'women are too stupid to see how intelligent I am', 'those bitches can't see how nice I am' guys, is it?

I think many men just want to say that it's because of the muscles or the haircuts or chiseled features or the confidence (overconfidence in their minds), because otherwise they have to accept that it's some aspect of their personality that is driving women away or at the very least not bringing them closer. Who wants to accept they need to improve themselves when you can just blame everyone else for your problems?

hahhahahah

what IS it about a naked woman that just freezes some men up??
Sensory overload? :D

What? So you are saying that guys that will sleep with anyone are not desperate? If they are not desperate then who the hell is?



You are writting as if this is based on one particular girl, but my opinion does not derive from one single experience, it is based on a plethora of experiences over the years.



Yes, you are right. But the sad fact is that I was not always like this, I used to think very highly of women because I was brought up in a family with outstanding women. But back then I never got laid. I only started being succesful with women when I picked up this negative attitude towards them, it was only then that I began to understand what attracts most women. So this is further evidence of how bad women are at judging men's character.

YOU are desperate. Those guys that will sleep with anything that moves are not desperate - they arent desperate to get a date, or to meet a girl, etc. because they know that they can, and given time, will meet another girl to have sex with.

YOU on the other hand are desperate for attention from a woman. You curse women because you dont get attention from them, or blame it on yourself, and say "woe is me, I'll never find a woman" and yet you still put on an outward attempt at trying simply so you can fail yet again and chalk it up to women being shallow.

I really do get the feeling that one of the biggest common denominators between the people who claim to be nice, sensitive, caring, good listeners, etc. is that there seems to be a shortage in the 'positive attitude' department. My basis for this being, of course, the whole, 'Ah, shit. they only go for the wankers' attitude that seems to be endemic in the discussion.

I mean, how can you expect a woman to like you if you're prone to not only being generally negative for life due to a few negative experiences. Also, women being governed by fundamentally the same psychology as males, they'll obviously find the generalisations you make about all women to be a little offencive.

But what do I know, right? I'm just some 18 year old kid on a message board. ;)
Yup ... a very wise 18 yer old kid on a message board. :)

Size has alot to do with it!

What? So you are saying that guys that will sleep with anyone are not desperate? If they are not desperate then who the hell is?

They are not desperate in the way that it was being used by Neut and others. Being willing to sleep with anyone is not desperate it's just not being very discriminating. They aren't desperate because if one girl says no, they're on to the next one. Not on some forum bitching about how women are dumb because they can't see how wonderful they are.

You are writting as if this is based on one particular girl, but my opinion does not derive from one single experience, it is based on a plethora of experiences over the years.

And your 'clinical trials' do not account for any of the other reasons women may not be attracted to you. How about the negative attitude? Or maybe it's that the girls you are attracted to (and not ALL girls) are messed up and have a disturbed idea of relationships? Or maybe that it's that they realized you had so little confidence in your persona as the nice guy that it could change into the person you're expressing yourself to be on here?

Yes, you are right. But the sad fact is that I was not always like this, I used to think very highly of women because I was brought up in a family with outstanding women. But back then I never got laid. I only started being succesful with women when I picked up this negative attitude towards them, it was only then that I began to understand what attracts most women. So this is further evidence of how bad women are at judging men's character.

If this is true, then you are chasing women that aren't worth chasing. As someone who has been dating other women from this planet for fifteen years or so, I find that most women actually will go for the nice guy if he has confidence and sincerity blended together. If they have to choose many women will take confidence. They will not generally settle for a man with no confidence no matter how nice he is. Who wants to hear about how the world is against you or that everyone else is stupid?

If you really had respect for women as you claim then a couple of incidents with women couldn't give you a negative attitude towards them. You would keep on trucking and realize that these are isolated incidents. How do I know? Where do you think I find the women I encounter? Mars? What about all the other guys on here who appear to have positive attitudes towards women and seem to always get the girl?

I'm A Nice And Sensitive Guy You &!$%%-ing Stupid Slut!11!!!!

Here's something else that the girls need to avoid - a mall ninja.

A mall ninja is someone who has to have all the latest and greatest tactical gear. If the SEALs or Delta Force use it, he must have it. He is in Condition Red at all times, including while sleeping, if he sleeps. He has so much Class IV body armor that he makes the Hollywood bank robbers look like they were wearing skimpy lingerie in comparison. He will not buy a pistol unless it has a rail, night sights, a laser, and a tactical white light. The minimum caliber he will use in a bolt-action rifle is .338 Lapua and the rifle must shoot sub-1/2 MOA out to 1500 meters. Any semiautomatic rifle he uses must have a rail adapter system and he leaves no inch of Picatinny rail unused. He only wears BDUs or 5.11 clothing. He carries duct tape and 550 cord at all times. He hasn't worn regular shoes in years, just tactical or combat boots. Dressing casual always involves a photographer's vest. He carries at least two BUGs on each ankle. He feels naked without some sort of thigh rig on. Blackhawk, Eagle, Surefire, and Safariland all send him their latest products and just deduct the cost out of his bank account "to cut down on red tape". He has special shoes that allow him to walk up walls. He is a black belt in at least three forms of martial arts. He sets off CS grenades in his house to "acclimate himself to the effects". He considers pepper spray a condiment. He has replaced all glass in his house with bulletproof Lexan. He only drinks out of a Camelback. He thinks that hand grenades are a perfectly acceptable self-defense weapon. He has a knife in every pocket and four on his belt. His car has been up-armored. He fires a minimum of 400 rounds a day to "stay in practice". Speed-dial #1 on his phone is Brigade Quartermasters. He sleeps with eye and ear protection on. He complains that Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, Valhalla, and all the other training institutes are teaching outdated material, even though he has never been to any one of them. He has subscriptions to every gun magazine available, but complains that their gun tests aren't tough enough since they don't measure accuracy while shooting from a moving helicopter. He believes that the true measure of a man is how much Cordura nylon he owns. He uses a Pelican case for an overnight bag. He often attempts to CCW a shotgun, claiming that it is perfectly normal to do so because the shotgun has a pistol grip. The Matrix is his favorite movie. He has a trauma plate surgically implanted in his skull. He complains about the lack of transferable M203 40mm grenade launchers. He doesn't want to join the military because they won't accept him into SOCOM based on only an interview. He makes fun of people in the military. He thinks that SWAT teams should play a backup role to him when the SHTF. He carries a ghillie suit in the trunk of his car at all times. He only works jobs that have a badge.

He also wonders why everyone is always making fun of him. Probably because he is only a mall security guard and he looks pretty stupid wearing all that stuff to work.
ROFLMFAO!!!!! That is hilarious! :D

I'm A Nice And Sensitive Guy You &!$%%-ing Stupid Slut!11!!!!
ROFL - exactly...

I am sorry if I offend anyone, but I the entire idea of this thread is absolutely ridiculous.
Differnet women look for different qualities in different men.
Asking for one universal answer is impossible unless you desire complete generalisations. Not to mention, you are asking a personal question on a forum on the internet...

Perhaps, but basically, aren't we all looking for the same thing? Someone to love us, to see us and make us feel important?

Yes, I know, this thread isn't really asking that question, and yes, love is suppose to be this great thing beyond us, where we are suppose to put another's need above our own. And I know it exits from experience. But let's be real, people are most attracted to others when they feel a certain reciprocity, no?

YOU are desperate. Those guys that will sleep with anything that moves are not desperate - they arent desperate to get a date, or to meet a girl, etc. because they know that they can, and given time, will meet another girl to have sex with.

YOU on the other hand are desperate for attention from a woman. You curse women because you dont get attention from them, or blame it on yourself, and say "woe is me, I'll never find a woman" and yet you still put on an outward attempt at trying simply so you can fail yet again and chalk it up to women being shallow.

Actually, I get plenty of attention from girls, I am just incredibly picky. If those guys know they will meet another girl to have sex with they why an earth are they banging girls they dont even like or intend to stay with? The only logical reason would be that they are desperate.

Actually, I get plenty of attention from girls, I am just incredibly picky. If those guys know they will meet another girl to have sex with they why an earth are they banging girls they dont even like or intend to stay with? The only logical reason would be that they are desperate.

What about...they're just looking to get their nuts off with no strings attached? Ya know, one night stands?

It's still size, no more, no less!

Let me guess, that's not the bitter, 'women are too stupid to see how intelligent I am', 'those bitches can't see how nice I am' guys, is it?

I think many men just want to say that it's because of the muscles or the haircuts or chiseled features or the confidence (overconfidence in their minds), because otherwise they have to accept that it's some aspect of their personality that is driving women away or at the very least not bringing them closer. Who wants to accept they need to improve themselves when you can just blame everyone else for your problems?

Good guess. I would much prefer to go for the 'nice guy' but not one who sits around moaning about how women never pick them and have crap taste. It's pathetic, insulting and also not at all productive.

Exactly. It's a hell of a lot easier to blame things on other people than realise you need to change. I've been there. I used to be far too over-sensitive and thought everyone else should change and be more sensitive to my needs. Once I realised what a bitch I was being and started seeing things more rationally, funnily enough tension in relationships decreased a lot. I used to be incredibly insecure and shy and thought it was everyone elses fault for not giving me a chance to show my true self. Once I put myself out there and started giving other people the chance to see my true self then things started to improve and I started to meet a whole lot more people and make friends much easier.

You can blame other people but in the end it comes down to you. Make the changes and you'll benefit. Either sit around moaning about women or go out there and meet women.

Maybe some girls do hover towards the 'jerk' type. But think about it seriously. There must be something attractive about them. Confidence, sense of humour, adventure, fun to be with.... something. If you can take that and mix it with your 'nice guy' personality you've got a great mix.

Also, yeah, women can date jerks (just like guys can) but do they actually end up marrying them and having serious relationships with them? More often than not, the guys they end up settling down with and having a decent relationships with are the real men who they can talk to, have fun with, trust and share their love with.

It's still size, no more, no less!
If it's big and flaccid, it isn't any good.

If it's big and hard and connected to an asshole, it isn't any good.

Actually, I get plenty of attention from girls, I am just incredibly picky. If those guys know they will meet another girl to have sex with they why an earth are they banging girls they dont even like or intend to stay with? The only logical reason would be that they are desperate.

No, the only logical reason is they prefer to just f*%# women they don't like and don't intend to stay with because THEY DON'T CARE. Why are you arguing this silly point? You will never change the way desperate was intended to be use. Neut told you what he meant when he used it, so let it go.

Also, if you get plenty of attention then why were you complaining? You weren't getting attention and you said it was because you were nice. I say it was because you were desperate. Then you suddenly got some attention and you were no longer desperate so you got more. It's relatively simple. You're never going to convince those of us who aren't bitter and aren't assholes and yet attract women that the only way to attract women is to be bitter and be an asshole. Emperical evidence says you're wrong.

What about...they're just looking to get their nuts off with no strings attached? Ya know, one night stands?

Listen, if you don't cut it out, I'm starting a flamewar and I don't care who sees it!!!

If it's big and flaccid, it isn't any good.

If it's big and hard and connected to an asshole, it isn't any good.

I don't care what size it is, what state it's in and what it's attached to, I'm not touching it. Well, unless it's mine, but that's mostly because I don't like peeing on the wall.

If it's big and flaccid, it isn't any good.

If it's big and hard and connected to an asshole, it isn't any good.

Uhm...Technically it's nearest neighbor is an asshole.

Everyone wonders why Jennifer even asscosiates with the likes of me and Jeffory.

Ray: You got one guy who crawled out of Michal Moore's asshole and obviously is a turd monster because he spews dirreha when he talks and then that other guy just giggles and talks about Satan. What the hell?!

cd: Mo' like WHERE in hell! >: D

The truth is me and Jeffory ARE big losers which girls make a point to stay away from meaning we're clean.

Well i'm clean anyway. True jeff doesn't have stds but he could afford to bathe more then once a week..

Uhm...Technically it's nearest neighbor is an asshole.

Don't make me give the "dicks, pussies, and assholes" speech again...

I don't care what size it is, what state it's in and what it's attached to, I'm not touching it. Well, unless it's mine, but that's mostly because I don't like peeing on the wall.
Yeah, like that's really the only time you touch it. W-word.

Don't make me give the "dicks, pussies, and assholes" speech again...

You're a biologist?

Yeah, like that's really the only time you touch it. W-word.

I said the only time I touch it, not the only time YOU touch it.

You're a biologist?
No, I'm part of Team America.

No, I'm part of Team America.

:confused: So I guess your "pussy ass whatever" speech is something to do with politics and the french... Bah, nevermind.

See the movie, "Team America".

A quote from the movie:
"We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!"

Dude if you enlistited in the military how come you post like a liberal pussy ass.
Whispering Legs is a Bush-voting neo-con. The only difference is that he lives in the real world.

So...let's think about this my naive little friend. You're 44 and on Nation States.

-snip-
This is just an outright flame. I'm amazed it has not been deleted yet. I've reported you.

RIGHT ON BROTHER! Also in my experiences...I have found that being a jerk with huge muscles gets you much further with the ladies then being intelligent and funny. I am kinda skinny...no muscle...and still very lonely. I have never had a girl friend because I dont measure up obviously.
Never was a problem for me.

You don't need muscles or money or evil to attract a girl, just confidence.

It's just as hard for girls actually.

We're continually bombarded by pictures of what we're supposed to look like, with massive chests and stick thin legs - and sometimes I get so sick of that. I have plenty of friends who don't have that physique, and they're constantly discouraged. It sucks.
What you say is true about the media bullshit. But look at the posts of the depressed males here - they're afraid to ask a girl out. At least girls are not generally expected to do that.

Just because I dont have the looks or muscles I guess I'm doomed to be alone forever just because ALL girls are getting really shallow? And they wonder why suicide is increasing all the time!
Come on, this is just craziness.

Here's something else that the girls need to avoid - a mall ninja.

-snip- (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8804069&postcount=171)

He also wonders why everyone is always making fun of him. Probably because he is only a mall security guard and he looks pretty stupid wearing all that stuff to work.
That was hilarious! I was laughing all the way through.

While I had a good time talking to her, the other guys were frozen in a rictus of fear. To this day, I still don't get it. I felt that I had passed them by - being able to talk to an attractive, completely naked woman just as though we were neighbors at the fence.
What, she was completely naked when she was sitting at your table talking to you and your friends?

Then with the mediocre girls that I am not particularly interested in, well I practically ignore them and this makes them want to sleep with me!

How can you be so stupid! If a guy shows no interest in you, its not because he is cool, for god's sake its because he doesn't think you are special!

Why cant girls work out for themslelves who are the cool guys? Another one of my peeves is when you show you are interested in a girl and she rejects you, the minute she sees any other girl trying to pull you, she is immediately attracted to you again!
These "mysteries" can be explained by the fact that

People want what they cannot have.

Yes, I said people, not just women. We men are like that too. It's probably not logical, it's just the way humans are.

I feel very sorry for you. Please broaden your social circle. :(

I'm thinking of quitting the whole looking-for-girl-thing and go back to where I was few years ago.. And also using the internet for what it was meant for.

nice


why hasnt anyone asked what guys look for in guys???

...And also using the internet for what it was meant for.

Porn and flaming?

What, she was completely naked when she was sitting at your table talking to you and your friends?


Yes. Having seen quite a few naked women, I tend to see the ones at strip joints as women at work. It's their job to sit around and be naked. So why should I treat them any different than any other person at work?

Besides - it's not like I'm going to really have any chance to have sex with her. So no point in getting worked up.

See the movie, "Team America".

A quote from the movie:
"We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!"

uhm...I guess you had to be there

uhm...I guess you had to be there
I wasn't there, but that still made me inhale my hot, hot coffee!

I wasn't there, but that still made me inhale my hot, hot coffee!

Yay, coffee, now maybe you'll be funny again.

Wait, again? I mean, now maybe you'll be funny.