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The world can fit and feed over 50 billion people.And it's unlikely that we'll ever get that many.
The world can't even feed 6 billion, care to present reasons why it could feed 50,000,000,000 people?

Got a first visit from my cousin, Servaas, saterday. That guy is sooo funny! Drooling, looking for my scared cat, laughing constantely with the silliest things and when he dances! Wow! Awesome, he's going to be one partyperson when he becomes a teenager.

Girlfriend, I don't give a shit what people like you think about me.

Wow that was a whole lot of wasted space and hot air. for someone who doesn't care, they certainly ran up a big rant trying to change people minds.

Oh, it was a JOKE. Maybe you should have clarified that by adding HUMOR.



OMGLOLOLOLOL THATS FUNNY.



OMG ROFL WHERE DO U COME UP WITH THIS MY SIDES OOF!



It is erroneous to assume lower population = zero population growth.



LOOLOLOLOMGROLF.

God damn you, OM, for being so hilariously light-hearted and funny all the time! You're absolutely right that I need to enjoy myself more, and laughing at you is the best way to start.



It doesn't matter who "sides" with you on "many things." That doesn't make you king shit, and counting on your internet popularity here is fucking sad. What do YOU do, besides have silly popularity contests on the forum? Pot, kettle, black? well, you are worse off than ever. and your 1337 speak doesnt get you anywhere, considering i already did it to you a while back ,and you got all offended at the whole "OMGLOL" thing, and practically begged to be taken seriously. because you were making an attempt to impress another stick in ass person on here. and, i was not referencing lower population, i was talking about LOW BIRTH RATES. pay attention. by the way, do you really live in santa barbara? we should meet for lunch one day. maybe shore line cafe. soemthing tells me you are far drier, and less competitive ( read - weak) in person.

and no one was talking about internet popularity, smarty. i am referring to the fact that you feel that you can spend hours on here per day, attempting to change peoples minds.

The world can't even feed 6 billion, care to present reasons why it could feed 50,000,000,000 people?
We can. The west is just burning what it overproduces.

Ugh. Kids. I hate them, and I hate the social expectations of going gaga over kids. Like someone's cranking out another one, and I'm supposed to say "congratulations" at the news. Or everyone is on about how "cute" they are, how "special" and "unique" and "precious." Well, I don't buy it. I hate kids. Don't we have enough kids? I mean GREAT, just what the world needs: more people. We only have 6 billion as it is - crank the kids out, there aren't enough humans on the planet! And then some people have multiples, because their genes are just so fucking special that we need to have a larger percentage of them in the 'pool. And it's all politically correct for males to want kids so they can show off their metrosexual new age fathering instinct. And it's all politically correct for women not to want them, or to work full time and let someone else raise their damn rugrats. There aren't any family values nowadays, just politically correct 'statements.' It's not a kid, it's a "statement" of how liberated you are since you can manage to work a job while neglecting a child. Yeah, way to go. Meanwhile people blame everything BUT this. Ohhhh the problem must only be them ILLEGALS. Or no no, it's them TERRORISTS. It couldn't possibly be because there are too many people, because there are too many kids, because you need a liscense to buy or sell practically anything, to fill out a form to vote or join the military or get a job anywhere, but all you need to pump out a kid is some sperm and a vagina, could it? Never!

Blah. What do you think about kids?

Reading this post, it seems you either have problems with humanity or were bullied as a child ;)

I hate kids, despite the fact I am technically one, but i mean the little ones that shout and scream and have tantrums, they need lining up against th... in fact better not say it. but anyway. i loathe the little things and wish they would loathe me as well. but no, i have to pretend to like them when they're chasing me with nail guns and trying to kill me, then waking me up in the night and slobbering and sicking over me.

Reading this post, it seems you either have problems with humanity or were bullied as a child ;)
dont say that to him. it makes him cry and stamp his feet. he may even wet his pants during said temper tantrum

well, you are worse off than ever. and your 1337 speak doesnt get you anywhere, considering i already did it to you a while back ,and you got all offended at the whole "OMGLOL" thing, and practically begged to be taken seriously. because you were making an attempt to impress another stick in ass person on here. and, i was not referencing lower population, i was talking about LOW BIRTH RATES. pay attention. by the way, do you really live in santa barbara? we should meet for lunch one day. maybe shore line cafe. soemthing tells me you are far drier, and less competitive ( read - weak) in person.

Hmm, so my 1337 speak is kind of, mocking perhaps? ...

Low birth rates, again, do not equal low population. Nor does higher death rates. Etc. Low population is low population, and I don't mean Alaska or Mali.

I do live in SB, and I see absolutely no reason to meet you, sorry! Why, to prove you wrong, in person? Prove to you how competitive or ... non-dry?... I am? Not good enough. I don't have to prove anything to you, thats why I didn't have to disprove your or anyone elses speculation about my sex life or past history or anything else.

I hate kids, despite the fact I am technically one, but i mean the little ones that shout and scream and have tantrums, they need lining up against th... in fact better not say it. but anyway. i loathe the little things and wish they would loathe me as well. but no, i have to pretend to like them when they're chasing me with nail guns and trying to kill me, then waking me up in the night and slobbering and sicking over me.

Oh OK, lets stop producing children because when young they naturally cry, are sick etc just because you and some other posters to this thread "dont like it", thus destroying the futuure of the human race.

Oh OK, lets stop producing children because when young they naturally cry, are sick etc just because you and some other posters to this thread "dont like it", thus destroying the futuure of the human race.

you say that like it's a bad thing

you say that like it's a bad thing

Erm yes it does tend to have a slightly detrimental effect on the future of ourselves. If you truely hate humans, why don't you commit suicide? I've heard it releives the sort of pressure you feel ;)

Oh OK, lets stop producing children because when young they naturally cry, are sick etc just because you and some other posters to this thread "dont like it", thus destroying the futuure of the human race.

Sounds good to me.

Here's the problem with the pro-childrenites: you think if YOU don't procreate, HUMANITY'S FUTURE is being denied. And you think when you DO procreate, you're FULFILLING THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY. You think your sperm and egg combos are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Allow me to clue you in. You're not. You're just producing another spoiled brat which, in all probability, you have no idea how to raise. No one wants to adore your spawn, and no one else thinks your genes are the end-all be-all of the human race.

Erm yes it does tend to have a slightly detrimental effect on the future of ourselves. If you truely hate humans, why don't you commit suicide? I've heard it releives the sort of pressure you feel ;)


woud love to but I can't. for one I don't want to put my mom thru that. but I also wouldnt be able to take over and eventually destroy all of humanity if I were dead.

woud love to but I can't. for one I don't want to put my mom thru that. but I also wouldnt be able to take over and eventually destroy all of humanity if I were dead.

OK.....

Here's a straight jacket.....

*emigrates as far away from Sumamba Buwhan as possible*

Fruitcase ;)

I've made my contribution to the gene pool so that the next generation won't be *completely* devoid of intelligence. Unfortunately, it's a well-established fact that stupid people breed much faster.

Aye, this be true.

George Bush AND Bush Senior?
Chavs (in the UK)

This be fact.

Hmm, so my 1337 speak is kind of, mocking perhaps? ...

Low birth rates, again, do not equal low population. Nor does higher death rates. Etc. Low population is low population, and I don't mean Alaska or Mali.

I do live in SB, and I see absolutely no reason to meet you, sorry! Why, to prove you wrong, in person? Prove to you how competitive or ... non-dry?... I am? Not good enough. I don't have to prove anything to you, thats why I didn't have to disprove your or anyone elses speculation about my sex life or past history or anything else.
the speech isnt mocking, brainiac. you never see me use it, unless it is to mock a person who had made best friends with the pc. like you. lonely kid.

yeah,i have no reason to meet you either, other than maybe giving you the sympathy you crave.

OK.....

Here's a straight jacket.....

*emigrates as far away from Sumamba Buwhan as possible*

Fruitcase ;)


*puts Rokland near the top of his list*

Sounds good to me.

Here's the problem with the pro-childrenites: you think if YOU don't procreate, HUMANITY'S FUTURE is being denied. And you think when you DO procreate, you're FULFILLING THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY. You think your sperm and egg combos are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Allow me to clue you in. You're not. You're just producing another spoiled brat which, in all probability, you have no idea how to raise. No one wants to adore your spawn, and no one else thinks your genes are the end-all be-all of the human race.

Let me draw you to the bolded text. How is this so? if everyone else takes the (rather strange) opinion of yours, how is this fullfilling the future of humanity?

And is there a such phrase as "pro-childrenites", or is this just a phrase you coined to make yourself feel betetr after your troubled childhood?

You were a child once, werent you "anti-childrenite" then? You should've commited suicide then.

Let me draw you to the bolded text. How is this so? if everyone else takes the (rather strange) opinion of yours, how is this fullfilling the future of humanity?

First, there will never be a time when everyone else takes my opinion. So, this hypothetical is totally irrelevant.

Second, the "future of humanity" isn't something to fulfill. It just happens. It's called time.


And is there a such phrase as "pro-childrenites", or is this just a phrase you coined to make yourself feel betetr after your troubled childhood?

Nice one on the troubled childhood bit! Haven't heard that before in this thread. But no, there isn't a phrase such as that that I am aware.

You were a child once, werent you "anti-childrenite" then? You should've commited suicide then.

I was, but I preferred homicide. Efficient. More effective. After all with suicide you only get rid of one and then thats it. ;)

Second, the "future of humanity" isn't something to fulfill. It just happens. It's called time.

Shouldn't we, as humans, have a desire for the future of our own kind to co-exist and to continue to co-exist in the future?

Maybe people have children because they want to feel proud themselves that they have produced a living human being, which is so advanced far beyond our comprehension (how the brain works for example)

Oh and I haven't read the whole of this thread, it was just an educated guess by myself at your in-humanity.

I was, but I preferred homicide. Efficient. More effective. After all with suicide you only get rid of one and then thats it. ;)

Also, if you wanted other childen to die, didn't you care about them in a strange sort of way? If one wants another person to die, it must be for a reason. If you wanted their lives to end, you must have "cared" for them, in some sense of the word. Think about that one.

Shouldn't we, as humans, have a desire for the future of our own kind to co-exist and to continue to co-exist in the future?

Maybe people have children because they want to feel proud themselves that they have produced a living human being, which is so advanced far beyond our comprehension (how the brain works for example)

Oh and I haven't read the whole of this thread, it was just an educated guess by myself at your in-humanity.

Humanity's future? What's in it for me? I'll be dead, and the amount of influence over the future of humanity I'll have simply because some of my genes survive in children is neglible in the extreme. In fact that amount of influence any one person has on 'humanity,' alive right now, is also neglible. It only diminishes with each generation. Even with children, only half your genes exist. And usually, far less than half of your personal traits and opinions, as each individual forms his/her own. Grandchildren, a quarter. A few more generations and your only mark is maybe a recessive eye color gene here or there. But people think procreating is creating some sort of grand legacy. What a sham!

My final thoughts for today on procreation: bacteria can do it too. It's not that impressive.

Humanity's future? What's in it for me? I'll be dead, and the amount of influence over the future of humanity I'll have simply because some of my genes survive in children is neglible in the extreme. In fact that amount of influence any one person has on 'humanity,' alive right now, is also neglible. It only diminishes with each generation. Even with children, only half your genes exist. And usually, far less than half of your personal traits and opinions, as each individual forms his/her own. Grandchildren, a quarter. A few more generations and your only mark is maybe a recessive eye color gene here or there. But people think procreating is creating some sort of grand legacy. What a sham!

My final thoughts for today on procreation: bacteria can do it too. It's not that impressive.

Also my final thoughts: You are very inhumane, and I would hate to ever meet you ever in a million years.

Let me draw you to the bolded text. How is this so? if everyone else takes the (rather strange) opinion of yours, how is this fullfilling the future of humanity?

And is there a such phrase as "pro-childrenites", or is this just a phrase you coined to make yourself feel betetr after your troubled childhood?

You were a child once, werent you "anti-childrenite" then? You should've commited suicide then.1. I know a number of people who don't like children; just because you and a number of others disagree with that opinion doesn't make it strange. I, a politically centrist atheist, do not consider those on the left/right, or those that follow religion, strange just because I don't agree with them.

2. I had a very happy childhood, and I don't like most children.

3. Yes, I disliked most children even when I was one. They seemed incapable of behaving themselves on a majority of occasions, even though myself and a number of others I knew didn't really have that much difficulty with it.

Why should everyone be forced to procreate? Enough people are doing it as it is, so it really doesn't seem necessary for all of us to do so. For those of us that derive satisfaction and feelings of achievement from doing things other than getting pregnant and having a kid, let us get on with it. You go ahead and have your kid if you want to, but don't suppose I'm inhumane because I want to do other things with my life. Don't suppose I'm inhumane if I get irritated by constant screeching while sitting on a bus, or a toddler having a tantrum in a shop. I have yet to meet a person that doesn't get irritated by such things, whether they generally like children or not, and it's only part of my reason for not wanting to have them.

To the person that claimed that when one meets the right person, they'll be dying to have children: I've met the right person, and it's the very last thing either of us want.

In short, have your opinions and debate those ideas that oppose your beliefs - that's great. But making gross generalisations and assumptions about other people just because they don't share your world view is ridiculous - whether it's this issue, or anything else.

You were a child once, werent you "anti-childrenite" then? You should've commited suicide then.

And this is coming from someone who thinks people that don't want children are strange.... Personally, I believe anyone encouraging such trite behavior should reconsider populating the world we presently live in with children that will have psycholigical disorders.

In the words of Albert Fish: I like kids... they are tasty.

Thank you.

In the words of Joy Williams' "The Case Against Babies" (http://www.granta.com/extracts/778):

It's as though, all together, in the waning years of this dying century, we collectively opened the Door of our Home and instead of seeing a friend standing there in some sweet spring twilight, someone we had invited over for drinks and dinner and a lovely civilized chat, there was Death, with those creepy little black seeds of his for planting in the garden. And along with Death we got a glimpse of ecological collapse and the coming anarchy of an over-peopled planet. And we all, in denial of this unwelcome vision, decided to slam the door and retreat to our toys and make babies--those heirs, those hopes, those products of our species' selfishness, sentimentality and global death wish.