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Red Tide2
16-03-2005, 15:46
Preceding Zombie outbreak:

1:Grow up.
2:Start a international corporation.
3:Get rich from said corporation.
4:Start the base that I will describe below.

Now considering that if this happen I would be running a secret evil base inside a completely self-sufficient (dormant) volcanic island(with a greenhouse and ammunition factories). Is would simply do the following:

1:At first news of zombie infection I would put the base on lockdown and lock the blast doors. Nobody gets in or out.

2:In the case that zombies get IN. I will have sentry guns standing by, programmed to fire in bursts at the head with ammo runners to continiously 'feed' them.

3:Step up plans to build my doomsday device(faster).

4:Launch doomsday device in to orbit.

5:Hack into NATO, Russian, and Chinese Spy sattelites and locate where large concentrations of zombies are.

6:And use Doomsday Device on said locations.

7:Repeat steps 5 and 6.

9:Once all major zombie concentrations have been destroyed I will dispatch my minions, via indoor submarine, to all Russian and United States military bases to sieze control of equipment and rally any surivors to my cause.
Ryanania
16-03-2005, 17:36
Assuming that the facility was already tapped into a well with the cap lifted, it is less problematic. If the well is drilled into but the cap not removed, that is more problematic as it would involve diving to the cap while guiding the crane hook to the cap, securing it and evacuating the water before the crane can pull up the cap. That's a two man job in the least with just diver and crane operator. Of course setting up the system so it can actually begin transferring the crude takes quite a few people.

Needless to say, I would at least attempt to recruit the few miners I know who come back on shore leave.With the right support ships, it could be done. Also, if there was a Navy dive team embarked with the fleet (and there is a good chance there would be), that solves the diving issue.
The Illuminati Council
16-03-2005, 21:54
What? No HEV suit? :D

So Falfaar. How does the new agreement between Ryanania and me sound? How would the zombies fair against it anyway?

BTW, how susceptible is the brain matter to fire?

I have fashioned an HEV out of soup cans and gum.

Fear the might of soup-and-gum Freeman!
Zenmarkia
20-03-2005, 20:51
I seemsto me that there are very few ways to defend yourself against a Zombie attack, doubly in a "Class 3" or "Class 4" Zombie attack, in which a normal person could do. I guess "The Corperation" appoarch could work but how would you gerentee that you would be successful in getting this under-water/dorment volcano?

I would like to apologise for "Necro-posting" in case anyone takes offence of this.
Red Tide2
20-03-2005, 21:00
'Looks back at post'

Errr... where did I say it was UNDERWATER?
Ravea
20-03-2005, 21:02
Become king of the Zombies.
Chicken pi
20-03-2005, 21:03
I seemsto me that there are very few ways to defend yourself against a Zombie attack, doubly in a "Class 3" or "Class 4" Zombie attack, in which a normal person could do.


I thought the 'cave' approach, mentioned earlier in the thread, was a pretty good idea.
Draycos
20-03-2005, 21:11
ahem...it was a joke... :rolleyes:...i wasn't even being remotely serious, but "allow me to retort" (sorry watched Pulp Fiction last night...its a great line)

1) True

2) Mount it on a land rover, speed, power and a huge gun :D

3) Who needs accuracy at 3,000 RPM? You gonna spray so many bullets in the direction of the zombies a great many of them are gonna be head shots.

4) Once out of ammo, lump it off the back of the Landrover and make a break for it having caused enough carnage to give me/others a head start, preferably to a marina to get a boat and head out to see to live off fish for the remainder of the zombie infestation :D
But what if the fish became zombies?! WHAT THEN?!
Kervoskia
20-03-2005, 21:23
But what if the fish became zombies?! WHAT THEN?!
Then we're screwed. Are the birds zombies as well?
Chicken pi
20-03-2005, 21:27
What about zombie bacteria?
Red Tide2
20-03-2005, 21:35
Isnt that what caused the outbreak in the first place?
The Tribes Of Longton
20-03-2005, 21:44
Isnt that what caused the outbreak in the first place?
It was a fictionl virus, I think. Solanum.
Kervoskia
20-03-2005, 21:46
It was a fictionl virus, I think. Solanum.
Is this a Night of the Living Dead or 28 Days Later kind of zombie?
Russkya
20-03-2005, 21:48
Step one: Break out my combat boots.
Step two: Break out my Katana, Wazikashiki, and Tanto.
Step three: Make sure I've got the sharpening stone in my pocket
Step four: Get my Naginata from the closet and sling that across my back.

Steps five through eighty:
- Slice and Dice.

I figure the best solution is:
"Nuclear Weapons and You: Thermonuclear Annhilation for All."
The Tribes Of Longton
20-03-2005, 21:49
Is this a Night of the Living Dead or 28 Days Later kind of zombie?
NOTLD-esque. And I'm using the virus from 'The Zombie Survival Guide' I think. In NOTLD, it was caused by microwaves from satellites, or some random explanation, whereas in 28 days later, it was that rage virus. Difference was that the old zombie films involved death of the person before they became a zombie hence slight rigour mortis. The 28 days later ones were just really pissed humans, so they were all adrenaline boosted freaks. I don't really know how the new Dawn of the Dead fits in, though...
Kervoskia
20-03-2005, 21:51
NOTLD-esque. And I'm using the virus from 'The Zombie Survival Guide' I think. In NOTLD, it was caused by microwaves from satellites, or some random explanation, whereas in 28 days later, it was that rage virus. Difference was that the old zombie films involved death of the person before they became a zombie hence slight rigour mortis. The 28 days later ones were just really pissed humans, so they were all adrenaline boosted freaks. I don't really know how the new Dawn of the Dead fits in, though...
So they are slow, not very bright, and travel in packs hmm...I'm glad I brought by samuri sword.
Red Tide2
20-03-2005, 21:52
Oooooooooooooooooookkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy.... anymore comments on my idea?
The Tribes Of Longton
20-03-2005, 21:53
So they are slow, not very bright, and travel in packs hmm...I'm glad I brought by samuri sword.
If were going melee, I'm gonna go with battery powered chainsaw with a solar panel attached to my back. I'd also be in a country where the sun always shines, as opposed to the UK.

Actually, I'd go with comandeering a mountain complex and nuking the rotting shite out of the zombie bastards. Yeah. Thermonuclear death baby :D
Kervoskia
20-03-2005, 21:55
I would try to find a very tall and secure building, or a mountain base, and take it over. Then gather a band of humans armed to the teeth and go medieval on the zombie bastards.
The Tribes Of Longton
20-03-2005, 21:57
I would try to find a very tall and secure building, or a mountain base, and take it over. Then gather a band of humans armed to the teeth and go medieval on the zombie bastards.
Minigun+ammo dump+ walls of solid zombies=zombie spatter.
Phalanix
21-03-2005, 00:04
Now if you ask me this would be the perfect use for suicide bombers. So hey all you terrorist morons. Save your C4 and other explosives for the zombie apocalypse and then play suicide bomber!
Saige Dragon
21-03-2005, 00:04
Wow...a variety of ideas. We have the 30 second heros and their swords, the run to the hills and never look backs and the big long term aircraft carrier equipped navy guys.....But you left out the propoganda spreading maniac!!!!

I'd most likley go down to my local Walmart and board the front doors up (the only glass in the entire building). The only other access would be though the garage doors to bring the products in through. i doubt these slow and stupid zombies could figure out how to open them from the outside when they are locked. From there I wold go to the elctronics department and grab a video camera and proceed to shoot a movie depicting zombies in their day to day lives when suddenly and outbreak of normal humans occur in which they ravage to zombie population. from there I would hang a number of tvs off the side of the Walmart (from the roof) and show my masterpiece. Since the zombies are no brighter than a sack of nails they wouldn't care about the horrible quality and instend be scared shitless of me.

Just a couple of other ideas to knock around as well:

I live in Canada and obviously in the winter it gets cold. All sorts of nasty things can occur when the human body get cold right, like hypothermia, frostbite. Well Zombies are dead and in -30C weather they are just going to be sacks of frozen meat like you have in the slaughterhouse freezers. Just go out one cold day with a shovel and start knockin heads off. when the zombies thaw out in the spring they'll all be dead because their brain has been seperated from their body. No if you get a few hundred people doing this, well you've just eliminated the entire zombie popualtion with in a few 100km or so at least. And zombies walk a whole lot slower than humans so when spring comes around it'll take a while to get to you again. But then this is unlikely as well because zombies like packs so why would they go where other zombies are not????

And if neither of those above ideas worked I'd just pack my clothe, backpacks, etc.. wiht like a good 40 pounds of blackpowder and and another good 40 pounds of roofing nails. After dousing myself in gasoline I'd run into the middle of the zombie pack and light myslef on fire. The resulting explosion along with a few thousand nails travelling mach 2 would effectivley tear though any zombie within a good 100m+.
Ryanania
11-04-2005, 00:27
Quite a few of the solutions in this thread were pretty unrealistic, like "me and my high school pals would go steal us a nuclear sub!" Good luck figuring out how to operate it, let alone with a crew of, what, 5?

Another thing I noticed is, a lot of you guys own ninja swords, huh? Is there some kind of samurai fad that I'm not aware of?
Non Aligned States
11-04-2005, 01:10
Just thought I should point this out. A katana isn't exactly a sword used by the more covert army units in Feudal Japan. A little too big for 2nd story work. But either way, yes, there does seem to be a larger than expected number of people with edged weapons.
Cave-hermits
11-04-2005, 02:55
heehee... was just trying to explain this 'fascination' of mine to some people last night....

anyways, id have to say it would depend on where i was when i heard about it-if im home, id layer up the clothing (people teeth are not very sharp, dead or alive)
be a bit uncomfortable, but better then getting bitten until i can aquire/make some armor.

ive got some large blades lying around, no swords, but machetes, kukris, etc. id use them, and a nice long iron pipe i got (4 foot breaker bar)

throw some survival supplies in my pack, and head for the mountains.

once there, id head north. as was said above, mebbe they don't die, but they cant produce heat, so when temps get below freezing, theyre going to stop moving. (and even if they do produce heat, ill jsut move north far enough to where body heat alone isnt enough-you need clothing, etc)

i live _really_ close to a home-depot and a walmart, and a gun store, so id grab some weapons there if not too risky- go in through the roof if i had too.

but yeah, they cant live forever, not even 10 years, even w/out bacterial decay- our own enzymes and such will break down bodyparts before then. or they will dry out-may not kill them, but you sure as hell cant move if your dehydrated.

basically, im with the arm and gear up, and head for the hills crowd, and wait it out.
Ankhmet
11-04-2005, 16:44
Quite a few of the solutions in this thread were pretty unrealistic, like "me and my high school pals would go steal us a nuclear sub!" Good luck figuring out how to operate it, let alone with a crew of, what, 5?

Another thing I noticed is, a lot of you guys own ninja swords, huh? Is there some kind of samurai fad that I'm not aware of?

Woa, big man.
Ryanania
11-04-2005, 16:54
Woa, big man.?
Falhaar
11-04-2005, 17:27
How about a prision? Big high solid walls, plenty of space in the yards and on the roofs for growing food, with alittle luck you could dig a well of some kind. The obvious problem is the prisioners themselves, get rid of them and you are laughing. Excellent plan, the prisoners would probably either be dead, or have starved to death anyway. If not, they may have started a semi-anarchic dictatorship, ruled by the toughest criminal elements, this could present a problem.
Preceding Zombie outbreak: Sorry! Talking about right now. No chance of changing anything, you deal with the common elements and factors you now have to work with.
I seemsto me that there are very few ways to defend yourself against a Zombie attack, doubly in a "Class 3" or "Class 4" Zombie attack, in which a normal person could do. I guess "The Corperation" appoarch could work but how would you gerentee that you would be successful in getting this under-water/dorment volcano? Nah, take a look at some of the later suggestions on this thread, as long as you are organised, quick-witted and have a good plan, you should have about a 25% chance of surviving.
Become king of the Zombies. Zombies lack any formal leadership. They basically break down society into two distinct castes: Dead people (non-edible) and Alive people (edible)
But what if the fish became zombies?! WHAT THEN?! As has been stated several times, zombie flesh is highly toxic to all non-human organisms, you'd just end up with a bunch of not-moving, poisonous dead fish.
- Slice and Dice. I'm not even going to start describing how impractical this is.
Is this a Night of the Living Dead or 28 Days Later kind of zombie? Niether. These zombies are strictly Solaneum-based. They are created by a fast-spreading virus which directly attacks the brain. Also, S-Zombies lack the ability to percieve and manipulate objects, unlike their NOTLD counterparts. 28 Days Later did not contain zombies, it merely demonstarted what angry monkeys can do to England.
travel in packs Common fallacy. Zombies are in fact, largely unaware of one another, they may be attracted by the moan of a walking horror as it spots a potential meal, but it is the sound that attracts them, not the instictive need to form groups. In many cases, whilst feeding on the entrails of recently deceased or soon-to-be-deceased victims, zombies may tug on pieces of flesh, like a dog with a rope, entirely oblivious to the existence of the mouldering hands grasping the other end.
If were going melee, I'm gonna go with battery powered chainsaw with a solar panel attached to my back. I'd also be in a country where the sun always shines, as opposed to the UK. Logical and realistic answers please.
I would try to find a very tall and secure building, or a mountain base, and take it over. Then gather a band of humans armed to the teeth and go medieval on the zombie bastards. Very nice, how?
Since the zombies are no brighter than a sack of nails they wouldn't care about the horrible quality and instend be scared shitless of me. Zombies effectively possess the cognition and brain-power of your average ant. They do not know fear, or love, or hate, or anger. They only have one desire, one fundamental driving instinct: to feed.
but yeah, they cant live forever, not even 10 years About that, yes. Zombies are not subject to the same processes as the "living" are. They decompose extremelly slowly.
Scouserlande
11-04-2005, 17:32
Zombies are slow, stupid and their only real method of attack is to bite you, right (going by Shaun of the Dead). so i drive down to Cardiff castle, nab myself (and my mates) a suit of armour (aha no biting, see) and go looting! HMV is my first stop, then Virgin Megastores, then anywhere else I fancy :)
The fop in cardiff is quite good too.

you see were as americans have all there guns and shit (which really is crap considering most people can shoot, and you run out of ammo, a machete or a cricket bat is so much better, hell a sack of doornobs might work)

British people has castles, all you have to do is get to one drop the portcullin and draw up the draw bridge, and fill it up with food or summin.

Sorted.

Idealy find a castle with a built in pub/resturant.
Scouserlande
11-04-2005, 17:44
Basically the zombies are just going to be walking autmotons whos only still fuctioning system is a simple nervous one right.

So where are they getting the energy to move?
muscles need atp to contract, nerves need sodium ions to fire, both things the body cant just magic up.

Therefore these things are going to run out of fuel, probably quite quickly in reality.

No circulatory system = no eating to gain this fuel

So the only possibility is that the virus thingy derives the needed energy from decomposing its own flesh.

therefore these things probably have a life time of 2 months topish.

Use your imagination, just stay on a roof for two months or baracade your self in alton towers.
Falhaar
11-04-2005, 17:51
So the only possibility is that the virus thingy derives the needed energy from decomposing its own flesh. Nope. The Solaneum Virus is remarkable in that it tranforms the brain into an entirely different organ, one which produces energy and food for the rest of the body and does not require oxygen.
Scouserlande
11-04-2005, 17:57
Nope. The Solaneum Virus is remarkable in that it tranforms the brain into an entirely different organ, one which produces energy and food for the rest of the body and does not require oxygen.

from what

you cant just magic up energy, you need components.

Dont talk about photosythesis as that works poorly when you move it, and still without resipriation zombies would run outta juice at night.
Falhaar
11-04-2005, 18:04
you cant just magic up energy, you need components. Hey, I'm an expert in zombie behaviour, not zombie biology.
German Nightmare
11-04-2005, 18:17
FUCK! :mad: And I'm stuck in Germany with about 85 million idiots jammed in the space of Maine... nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, hardly any shooty weapons... and the Autobahn is closed, you said? Crappy situation!

Actually I love Zombie movies and have all the good plans laid out, but hey - I'd probably just let one of the suckers bite me, run, hide (I want an intact body to stalk the living!), then wait till the infection spreads through my body...

...and then comes the fun part!!! :eek: brains, BrAiNs, BRAINS!!!

http://www.twilightcreationsinc.com/zombies/milltowndemons.mp3

By the way - all you zombie-maniacs and those of you who would like to join us: The game "Zombies!" Twilight Creations has put out is just insanely great - almost a no-brainer *evil laugh*

Nice Zombie infection simulation:

http://kevan.org/proce55ing/zombies/

Okay, to stay "realistic":

1st: Get a complete leather Motorcylce outfit including gloves, body protection and helmet. (No, you may NOT wear a T-shirt and bermuda shorts! NO! Leave the flip flops... Take the frigging boots!)

2nd: No chainsaws and other messy shit - blood spreads the infection... Cover your eyes! It dodn't matta if ya look stupid, stupid!

3rd: Find people who follow your command to the letter but are bright enough to improvise... Be nice to your younger siblings and let them come along!

4th: Find a hideout that provides for food, water, and an easily defendable entrance. Check for a secure back-entrance - make that a back "exit only"-thing...

5th: Figure out what kind of zombies you're dealing with - the voodoo type (kill the zombie master), the slow moving "easy" zombies (Mmh - Romero: You might stand a chance) or the faster fuckers (28 days, DotD remake - U R screwed :headbang: ). Adapt yer strategy accordingly ;)

6th: Forget about malls and stuff - If you thought about it, everyone else is already there... The more people, the easier somebody screws up!

7th: Don't listen to the abovementioned song while trying to figure things out... After a couple of repeats ya can't even think straight anymore...

8th: Fucking fight'em with blunt weapons like maces, a nice axe or a hammer of war (a midsized sledge hammer will do fine) and knock'em in the head. The cranium is only 5mm thick and cracking it always does the trick.

9th: If only my first proposition is left - so what! After all, most of the zombies don't look too unhappy :p

10th: Good luck - and watch yer backs... bwahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D