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FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 13:40
I'm 6'1", 210 lbs, have very low body fat and am COMPLETELY proportionate in EVERY way. I think my hands are big enough. Now make with directions. The longer you put it off, the longer it'll take to get there.
I live in a little place in London called Buckingham Palace, there's signs pointing to it and stuff, not too difficult to find
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:40
Good lord who actually wastes their time with weak beer? I only have 2 friends who will drink it anyway and them ussually in Depth Charges or sister drinks. Go for the good stuff Vodka. When my wife and I build we will end up with a Vodka on tap sink in our room and the bar! :p Of course it will have to have a lock on it to keep out the kids till they are old enough to drink responsibly.

All beer tastes like urine. Stick to the liquor and you'll be fine.
Vynnland
25-02-2005, 13:41
Ich wohne in Friedrichshafen, an der Bodensee. Ich bin ein Englander aber ich arbeiter hier als Sprachpraktikant.
Wo in Deutschland ist Friedrichshafen?

Ich habe nur zum Rammstein gewesen wann ich in das Militär war.
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 13:42
Aww bless.
Thanks :)
Vynnland
25-02-2005, 13:42
Good lord who actually wastes their time with weak beer? I only have 2 friends who will drink it anyway and them ussually in Depth Charges or sister drinks. Go for the good stuff Vodka. When my wife and I build we will end up with a Vodka on tap sink in our room and the bar! :p Of course it will have to have a lock on it to keep out the kids till they are old enough to drink responsibly.
Alcohol content does not necessarily make for good beer. Flavor and body mean more then alcohol content.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 13:42
With that said, Omega the Black isgoing to make an art historian a very happy person. :rolleyes:
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:42
Welcome Frtiz! What the hell does your name mean?

Well my name is a hybridised version of the name of one of the dukes of Austria. It's kind of used as an expletive in my house. If you are exasperated you shout SPLUGENHOF. You should try it some time. Thankyou for you welcome.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 13:42
lol, any volunteers?
EDIT: you need to have pretty big hands
Well I must have big hands then! You know what they say... Though it is not actually true. My wife says sure if you do the dishes, LOL.
For me, it IS a bit of a sexual thing, but It's probably because I've never been with another woman before. Ever.
Well if you are built anything like Tink my wife might be interested in a three-way, she is kinda curious.
LOL :eek:
Bitchkitten
25-02-2005, 13:43
Oh, really? What are gonna do to me? :p

I don't think I'll have to hold you down, but if I do I'm bigger than you. You'd be totally helpless. Mwahahahaha.
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 13:44
Well I must have big hands then! You know what they say... Though it is not actually true. My wife says sure if you do the dishes, LOL.
LOL!
Vynnland
25-02-2005, 13:44
I live in a little place in London called Buckingham Palace, there's signs pointing to it and stuff, not too difficult to find
Sweet, then you can get a ride here. That'll be much easier on my car. I'd hate to get it all water logged 'n stuff.

Seriously though, I need to get to bed (no you can't join me, you have to catch that plane first). It is way passed my bedtime. See ya.
The odd one
25-02-2005, 13:45
I live in a little place in London called Buckingham Palace, there's signs pointing to it and stuff, not too difficult to find
maybe its easy to find but those army dudes really don't like it when you try to climb the fence.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:45
The ideal figure no matter what civilization you look at is the 1:.7 ratio. And technically all boobs are proportional. a 5'0" B is smaller c.c. volume than a 6'0" B, typically. It is all in how large a rib-cage she has.

This is not true in the slightest. Many indian societies believed that the fatter you were the better due to the fact that this portrayed wealth. Analysis of bronze age sculpture by Dr Lisa bendall have shown that there was huge regional variation in ideas of beauty.
Kellarly
25-02-2005, 13:45
Wo in Deutschland ist Friedrichshafen?

Ich habe nur zum Rammstein gewesen wann ich in das Militär war.

Friedrichshafen ist im Süden. Es ist an der Grenze mit der Schweiz und Österriech und an der Bodensee (Lake Constance). Aber ich habe auch in Kassel gewohnt, in 1996 und 1998. (Forgive the terrible grammar and spelling, my writing is my weakest area).

Friedrichshafen (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=1050000.32195024&Y=6012500.25829148&width=500&height=300&gride=1055127.32195024&gridn=6017544.25829148&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=DE&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=Friedrichshafen&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=1&scale=4000000)
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 13:46
I live in a little place in London called Buckingham Palace, there's signs pointing to it and stuff, not too difficult to find
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:cool: :fluffle: :p :fluffle: :cool:
maybe its easy to find but those army dudes really don't like it when you try to climb the fence.
You mean the Palace Guards? They won't do too much it is the agents inside you need to worry about shooting your head off and then maybe asking questions. Besides I love what Tink has done with the place!
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 13:46
Sweet, then you can get a ride here. That'll be much easier on my car. I'd hate to get it all water logged 'n stuff.

Seriously though, I need to get to bed (no you can't join me, you have to catch that plane first). It is way passed my bedtime. See ya.
night xoxoxoxoxox :fluffle:
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 13:47
maybe its easy to find but those army dudes really don't like it when you try to climb the fence.whisper a few sweet nothings into their ear and they'll let you in
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 13:47
With that said, Omega the Black isgoing to make an art historian a very happy person. :rolleyes:
OHH?!
Vynnland
25-02-2005, 13:48
Friedrichshafen ist im Süden. Es ist an der Grenze mit der Schweiz und Österriech und an der Bodensee (Lake Constance). Aber ich habe auch in Kassel gewohnt, in 1996 und 1998. (Forgive the terrible grammar and spelling, my writing is my weakest area).

Friedrichshafen (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=1050000.32195024&Y=6012500.25829148&width=500&height=300&gride=1055127.32195024&gridn=6017544.25829148&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=DE&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=Friedrichshafen&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=1&scale=4000000)
lol

So, friedrichshafen is in the Hessian territory then? I bet you have a goofy hessian german accent when you speak then. My german instructor (one of them anway) had a hessian accent and it always messed me up, because I wanted to learn proper hoch deutsch and his pronounciation always confused me.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:48
night xoxoxoxoxox :fluffle:

I'm only a coupple of hours away in Oxford. I could hop on the train and be there in time for tea ;)
Oksana
25-02-2005, 13:49
Thank you, Fritz. German is one of the worldwide languages I'm not studying. I have a German neighbor. She told a me how to say, then I looked the spelling up online. It seems too complicated, at least on top of the other languages I study. :)
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 13:49
I'm only a coupple of hours away in Oxford. I could hop on the train and be there in time for tea ;)
lol, i actually live in the Lake District so you probably wouldn't
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:50
whisper a few sweet nothings into their ear and they'll let you in

Always work for me LOL The only problem is when they want to take you to meet their sergeant. He's a bit of a beast and can be very rough.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:52
Thank you, Fritz. German is one of the worldwide languages I'm not studying. I have a German neighbor. She told a me how to say, then I looked the spelling up online. It seems too complicated, at least on top of the other languages I study. :)

I know no german at all. Ancient languages are my thing, Ancient Greek, Latin, Classical Mayan, Linear B etc. Though I do dabble in Norwegian, French and Italian.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:52
lol, i actually live in the Lake District so you probably wouldn't

See you when I go home at the end of term then. I live in Yorkshire.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 13:53
You were talking about proportions. Maybe I'm wrong, but the 1:7 ratio is not the most widely used ratio. What about cultures where fat woman are considered attractive? Or Mexico or Puerto Rico? Big butts tend to be more attractive to Hispanic people than a lot of other things.
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 13:53
Has anyone seen an actual E or above? My wife has E's and her friend has F's (when she was pregnant they got to be H's and J's). Let me tell you, these sizes are excessive. Anyone saying catagorically that these are the definitive sizes needs to get their damn head checked. Both of them.
Kellarly
25-02-2005, 13:53
lol

So, friedrichshafen is in the Hessian territory then? I bet you have a goofy hessian german accent when you speak then. My german instructor (one of them anway) had a hessian accent and it always messed me up, because I wanted to learn proper hoch deutsch and his pronounciation always confused me.

Well Friedrichshafen is in Baden-Wurtemburg, so i have developed a little of a Schwäbischen accent (saying 'sch' instead of 's'). Kassel is in Hessen though, but they speak pretty standard hoch deutsch (hardly any accent there).However most people here think my accent is very northern, in fact many think i'm dutch! LOL! But i got the fluency and confidence down so its all good! :D
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 13:53
See you when I go home at the end of term then. I live in Yorkshire.
cool, i have relatives in Yorkshire, where abouts? (if you don't mind me asking)
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 13:54
Has anyone seen an actual E or above? My wife has E's and her friend has F's (when she was pregnant they got to be H's and J's). Let me tell you, these sizes are excessive. Anyone saying catagorically that these are the definitive sizes needs to get their damn head checked. Both of them.
I can see some Es right now thank you! and I take offense to people saying that they're excessive!
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 13:54
This is not true in the slightest. Many indian societies believed that the fatter you were the better due to the fact that this portrayed wealth. Analysis of bronze age sculpture by Dr Lisa bendall have shown that there was huge regional variation in ideas of beauty.
Yes but the ratio was still within .05 of the standard ratio. And the ratio does change for those who have already had kids. Weight and size doesn't enter into it so much as the propotional way it sits on her body. The ratio of 1:.7:1 is the ideal size for max. fertility in a woman and therefore the ideal sexual shape.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:55
Has anyone seen an actual E or above? My wife has E's and her friend has F's (when she was pregnant they got to be H's and J's). Let me tell you, these sizes are excessive. Anyone saying catagorically that these are the definitive sizes needs to get their damn head checked. Both of them.
What do you mean these are definite sizes? Course they're definite sizes. Gs are real and really good.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:56
cool, i have relatives in Yorkshire, where abouts? (if you don't mind me asking)

i don't mind you asking at all. We're kind of all over the shop really but my familly is concentrated round West Yorks, particularly Bradford.
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 13:56
I don't think I'll have to hold you down, but if I do I'm bigger than you. You'd be totally helpless. Mwahahahaha.
I can run pretty fast--only for 10 seconds :(

Alrighty, what are you gonna do to me if you aren't gonna hold me down? :p
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 13:57
I can see some Es right now thank you! and I take offense to people saying that they're excessive!

I love my wife and I love her breasts. I'm only saying that these people got no idea what they're getting into as they have no reference. I'm sure yours are nearly as nice as my wife's, which are fantastic.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:57
Yes but the ratio was still within .05 of the standard ratio. And the ratio does change for those who have already had kids. Weight and size doesn't enter into it so much as the propotional way it sits on her body. The ratio of 1:.7:1 is the ideal size for max. fertility in a woman and therefore the ideal sexual shape.

I defy you to say that Indian views were anything about proportion, they were all about the fat because the fatter you are the more money you have.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 13:57
Yes, please keep in mind that I only had ten options. If I posted up to a J-cup, there would still be people mad with me.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 13:58
Thank you, Fritz. German is one of the worldwide languages I'm not studying. I have a German neighbor. She told a me how to say, then I looked the spelling up online. It seems too complicated, at least on top of the other languages I study. :)
What ones are you studying/speak? I love 1. an inteligent woman and 2. a woman who can kick my arse!
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 13:58
I live in a little place in London called Buckingham Palace, there's signs pointing to it and stuff, not too difficult to find

Hrmmm ... I always wondered who lived there. The heating costs must be extraordinary!
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 13:59
Yes but the ratio was still within .05 of the standard ratio. And the ratio does change for those who have already had kids. Weight and size doesn't enter into it so much as the propotional way it sits on her body. The ratio of 1:.7:1 is the ideal size for max. fertility in a woman and therefore the ideal sexual shape.

Fertility does not come into sexual attractiveness and it would certainly appear that the further back into history you go, the biggers the ratio gets, far exceeding the 1:7:1 ratio found in most textbooks.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 13:59
Hrmmm ... I always wondered who lived there. The heating costs must be extraordinary!

that's why i had to sell it - it wasn't the expense, it's the morality of using all that fossil fuel energy.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 13:59
Well, I'm small so I can't kick anyone's arse. I am studying English, French, Spanish, and Italian.
Kellarly
25-02-2005, 14:00
i don't mind you asking at all. We're kind of all over the shop really but my familly is concentrated round West Yorks, particularly Bradford.

:eek: I go to uni there!
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 14:01
What do you mean these are definite sizes? Course they're definite sizes. Gs are real and really good.

If you'll re-read, I said definitive, not definite. If you're a normal guy who dates women with B's or C's and you think to yourself "if only these were 5 sizes bigger! Then they'd be perfect!", I think you're crazy. The E's that I live with are more than anyone I know can handle.
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 14:01
lol, any volunteers?


EDIT: you need to have pretty big hands

Well I have average hands ... but I got two of them! :D
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:02
Well, I'm small so I can't kick anyone's arse. I am studying English, French, Spanish, and Italian.

I disagree with that. Small vicious people will one day rule thbe world. One of Aristotles theories was that we all have a similar ammount of rage in our bodies but that smaller people therefore have it more ocncentrated throughout their bodies. This was the reason he gave why small people tend to be more vicious.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:02
i don't mind you asking at all. We're kind of all over the shop really but my familly is concentrated round West Yorks, particularly Bradford.

:eek: I go to uni there!

I avoid it as much as possible!
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 14:03
i don't mind you asking at all. We're kind of all over the shop really but my familly is concentrated round West Yorks, particularly Bradford.
cool, my Grandad lives in the outskirts of Leeds (Rothwell I think) and my dad grew up in Ossett and Wakefield and my cousins lived in Gawthorpe until last year, they're in Bridlington now, I've probably spent nearly half my life in Yorkshire
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:04
If you'll re-read, I said definitive, not definite. If you're a normal guy who dates women with B's or C's and you think to yourself "if only these were 5 sizes bigger! Then they'd be perfect!", I think you're crazy. The E's that I live with are more than anyone I know can handle.

There are men out their who can handle bigger. We are a small band of brothers but we alone have the pluck, the inclination, the strength of charcter to handles large breasts! LOL
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:04
ummm...yeah I'm viscious and violent but i disagree, somewhat. If someone told me they were going to beat me up, I'd probably get my ass kicked. I have 8 year old cousins who are bigger than me.
Kellarly
25-02-2005, 14:05
I avoid it as much as possible!

:p
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:06
:eek: I go to uni there!

!!!!!!!!
I went to Bradford Grammar School and my familly all comes from Shipley. My grandad works in the textiles department at Bradford Uni. He's an expert on old weaving techniques and used to work in Salts Mill.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:06
I don't mean to offend anyone but Fritz has a point. German men are more able to tend to E-cups or larger. German women tend to be quite big. Have you seen one lately. They could carry their children in their boobs instead of their uterus. :)
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:06
cool, my Grandad lives in the outskirts of Leeds (Rothwell I think) and my dad grew up in Ossett and Wakefield and my cousins lived in Gawthorpe until last year, they're in Bridlington now, I've probably spent nearly half my life in Yorkshire

right now, I'm about 2 miles from Ossett.
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 14:07
There are men out their who can handle bigger. We are a small band of brothers but we alone have the pluck, the inclination, the strength of charcter to handles large breasts! LOL

You're joking, but you're also not. I'd say most men would run screaming for their lives. I've been damn near smothered a couple of times. But you know what? It's worth it.

Plus, she's the greatest woman in the universe, and that's cool too.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:07
cool, my Grandad lives in the outskirts of Leeds (Rothwell I think) and my dad grew up in Ossett and Wakefield and my cousins lived in Gawthorpe until last year, they're in Bridlington now, I've probably spent nearly half my life in Yorkshire

Hurrah!!!! This forum is full of northerners!!!!!! I'm stuck down here in Oxford with a load of poncey southerners at the moent. It's a major culture shock.
Kellarly
25-02-2005, 14:07
!!!!!!!!
I went to Bradford Grammar School and my familly all comes from Shipley. My grandad works in the textiles department at Bradford Uni. He's an expert on old weaving techniques and used to work in Salts Mill.

As ever its turning into a much smaller world! :)
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:08
I don't mean to offend anyone but Fritz has a point. German men are more able to tend to E-cups or larger. German women tend to be quite big. Have you seen one lately. They could carry their children in their boobs instead of their uterus.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:09
As ever its turning into a much smaller world! :)

in that everyone in it is from West Yorks?
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:10
right now, I'm about 2 miles from Ossett.

Welcome yorkshire brother!

(I wonder why there are so many yorkshiremen in this thread. Perhaps it's the chance to talk about breasts. We are a randy lot.)
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 14:10
right now, I'm about 2 miles from Ossett.
cool, i remember when my nan and grandpa used to live there, don't remember much about the area, except there was a big blue footbridge
The odd one
25-02-2005, 14:10
am i the only irish person in this whole place?
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:11
You were talking about proportions. Maybe I'm wrong, but the 1:7 ratio is not the most widely used ratio. What about cultures where fat woman are considered attractive? Or Mexico or Puerto Rico? Big butts tend to be more attractive to Hispanic people than a lot of other things.
Yes but the ideal figures still fall into the 1:.7 ratios give or take .05 since Greek/Egyptian/Roman times and their sculptures. Not to mention the "fuller" figured women of the medival periods. Unless a woman is round out from shoulders to the hips and back in to the hips it is still possible for her to have this ratio. It has been proven that this is the most fertile figure and that we males unconciously look for that in a woman as a perspective mate. After she has begun to have kids the figure begins to change to a rounder one showing that she has begun to lose her fertility. There are other studies out there that like to try and challenge his but they are without basis and very little to no merit. One I know was an attempt by an extremist feminist to change the sexist views towards women but it was based around false figures and data. It is a science as much as most things now adays.
Kellarly
25-02-2005, 14:11
Well technically i am from stockport, but, half my family is from around bradford and i go to uni there, and i support bradford city, so its kinda my second home...
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:11
I don't mean to offend anyone but Fritz has a point. German men are more able to tend to E-cups or larger. German women tend to be quite big. Have you seen one lately. They could carry their children in their boobs instead of their uterus.

LOL rather gross image there.

I think it's stupid when men get intimadated by large breasts. Take the plunge! It's well worth a snuggle!
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:12
am i the only irish person in this whole place?

Yes
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 14:12
Welcome yorkshire brother!

(I wonder why there are so many yorkshiremen in this thread. Perhaps it's the chance to talk about breasts. We are a randy lot.)
we need more Lancashire people!
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 14:12
Welcome yorkshire brother!

(I wonder why there are so many yorkshiremen in this thread. Perhaps it's the chance to talk about breasts. We are a randy lot.)

Well, I'm an American from the east coast and... wait a minute... this just in... I'm a 4th gen removed Yorkshireman. Nevermind.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:13
Well technically i am from stockport, but, half my family is from around bradford and i go to uni there, and i support bradford city, so its kinda my second home...

Bradford is like a whore with a heart of gold. Full of infection and rather disgusting to look at in place but under the grime, she's got a charm all of her own.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:14
Well technically i am from stockport, but, half my family is from around bradford and i go to uni there, and i support bradford city, so its kinda my second home...

hehe i'm from stockport too. coincidences abound.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:15
I'm 20% Irish. I hope that makes you feel a little more fuzzy inside. :rolleyes:
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:15
Yes but the ideal figures still fall into the 1:.7 ratios give or take .05 since Greek/Egyptian/Roman times and their sculptures. Not to mention the "fuller" figured women of the medival periods. Unless a woman is round out from shoulders to the hips and back in to the hips it is still possible for her to have this ratio. It has been proven that this is the most fertile figure and that we males unconciously look for that in a woman as a perspective mate. After she has begun to have kids the figure begins to change to a rounder one showing that she has begun to lose her fertility. There are other studies out there that like to try and challenge his but they are without basis and very little to no merit. One I know was an attempt by an extremist feminist to change the sexist views towards women but it was based around false figures and data. It is a science as much as most things now adays.

I think we shall have to beg to differ on this one as I have not got the relevant data in my office. But I still hold that the proportion theory is merely a statistical misinterpretation based on biased data.
Bitchkitten
25-02-2005, 14:16
Yikes, the place is full of Brits! :p
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:17
Well, I'm small so I can't kick anyone's arse. I am studying English, French, Spanish, and Italian.
My wife is 5'4" and was 100 lbs soaking wet and I have taught her to be able to kick the crap outof most men. My sister at 12, 4'5" and 75 lbs Soaking was already capable of beating most men who challenged her with or without the knife I had taught her how to use.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:18
I'm 20% Irish. I hope that makes you feel a little more fuzzy inside. :rolleyes:

I am a 16th polish irish. My great great grandmother moved to Ireland from Poland to escape the Geermans. She changed her name from Umersky to McUmdersky but arrived in ireland in time for the potato famine and so left after some years to go to yorkshire.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:19
Yikes, the place is full of Brits! :p

Isn't that cos it's bedtime in America?
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 14:19
I hear German women tend to get big boobs?
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:19
I'll have to agree with Fritz. I think men like an "hourglass" shape. That's why if a girl with broad a shoulders, an A cup, and is very tall asked a guy out, most men would think she's not very attractive (face also matters). Most men might say, "I don't know what it is about her, but she has an ugly body." Or something to that effect. Men tend to be wired to like an hourglass shape subconsciously. However, what men tend to be attracted to also has a lot to do with what is actually out there, hence your statistics.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:20
It's morning here. 7:28 AM.
The odd one
25-02-2005, 14:20
I'm 20% Irish. I hope that makes you feel a little more fuzzy inside. :rolleyes:
i guess thats as close as i can find. but i kinda like being unique. im lookin forward to the 6 nations this weekend. we beat england last year, and we're gonna do it again.
Bitchkitten
25-02-2005, 14:20
Yes but the ideal figures still fall into the 1:.7 ratios give or take .05 since Greek/Egyptian/Roman times and their sculptures. Not to mention the "fuller" figured women of the medival periods. Unless a woman is round out from shoulders to the hips and back in to the hips it is still possible for her to have this ratio. It has been proven that this is the most fertile figure and that we males unconciously look for that in a woman as a perspective mate. After she has begun to have kids the figure begins to change to a rounder one showing that she has begun to lose her fertility. There are other studies out there that like to try and challenge his but they are without basis and very little to no merit. One I know was an attempt by an extremist feminist to change the sexist views towards women but it was based around false figures and data. It is a science as much as most things now adays.

I saw a thing on the Discovery Channel thet said the same thing. I think a lot of people don't like the idea that some of our behavior might be pre-programed. Especially something as personal as sex.
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 14:20
Isn't that cos it's bedtime in America?
No, It's just morning here. Sun's already shining.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:20
My wife is 5'4" and was 100 lbs soaking wet and I have taught her to be able to kick the crap outof most men. My sister at 12, 4'5" and 75 lbs Soaking was already capable of beating most men who challenged her with or without the knife I had taught her how to use.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Not sure I want to know why you know their weights soaking wet and I'm not sure i want to know why you know how to use a knife.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:21
I'm 20% Irish. I hope that makes you feel a little more fuzzy inside. :rolleyes:

my wife's grandpa and grandma are irish - does that count?
Bitchkitten
25-02-2005, 14:21
Isn't that cos it's bedtime in America?
Only if you go to bed at 7:30 in the morning.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:22
I'll have to agree with Fritz. I think men like an "hourglass" shape. That's why if a girl with broad a shoulders, an A cup, and is very tall asked a guy out, most men would think she's not very attractive (face also matters). Most men might say, "I don't know what it is about her, but she has an ugly body." Or something to that effect. Men tend to be wired to like an hourglass shape subconsciously. However, what men tend to be attracted to also has a lot to do with what is actually out there, hence your statistics.

Also there is shedloads of pressure from the media to be attracted to franly skeletal women.
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 14:22
Only if you go to bed at 7:30 in the morning.

I've been known to do that.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:22
It's morning here. 7:28 AM.

It's lunchtime here, 1.22. I'm getting quite hungry actually.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:23
I'll have to agree with Fritz. I think men like an "hourglass" shape. That's why if a girl with broad a shoulders, an A cup, and is very tall asked a guy out, most men would think she's not very attractive (face also matters). Most men might say, "I don't know what it is about her, but she has an ugly body." Or something to that effect. Men tend to be wired to like an hourglass shape subconsciously. However, what men tend to be attracted to also has a lot to do with what is actually out there, hence your statistics.

i'm attracted to faces - eyes, mouths, that sort of thing. the attached body is an interesting adventure to me.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:23
Also there is shedloads of pressure from the media to be attracted to franly skeletal women.

no there isn't. magazines and tv don't follow you around saying *your bird's too fat* do they?
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 14:23
Isn't that cos it's bedtime in America?

It's "been at work for two hours" time in America. (It's 8:30 AM here.)
New Sancrosanctia
25-02-2005, 14:24
Also there is shedloads of pressure from the media to be attracted to franly skeletal women.
blech. i don't mind skinny, as long as it's because she works out and not because she starves herself. point of fact, i prefer an athletic build.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:24
I would like to announce to those who know me well on this forum that actully slept last night. Yes, I, went to bed at 1:00 AM and woke up at 6:00 AM.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:25
i'm attracted to faces - eyes, mouths, that sort of thing. the attached body is an interesting adventure to me.

"An interesting adventure" eh? Bit like "Voyage to the Centre of the Earth" or "Round the World in 80 Days"?
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:25
ummm...yeah I'm viscious and violent but i disagree, somewhat. If someone told me they were going to beat me up, I'd probably get my ass kicked. I have 8 year old cousins who are bigger than me.
My son is 20 months old and already over half my wife's height and pushing 1/5th her weight so 8 year old larger cousins is all relative.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:25
no there isn't. magazines and tv don't follow you around saying *your bird's too fat* do they?

That's not the point, kids grow up beign told by the media that that's how women should look.
Bitchkitten
25-02-2005, 14:26
I've been known to do that.

With me, that's pretty close to a regular bedtime. My hours are pretty irregular, and I never know what time I'll get to sleep. But since I'm starting to have a hard time finding the keys on the keyboard, I think it's close.
Shaed
25-02-2005, 14:26
Only if you go to bed at 7:30 in the morning.

I know *I* do ^.^
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:27
"An interesting adventure" eh? Bit like "Voyage to the Centre of the Earth" or "Round the World in 80 Days"?

depending on the size of the body
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 14:27
Also there is shedloads of pressure from the media to be attracted to franly skeletal women.

Sometimes in my prowling days, I'd like a woman I could throw around and nearly break. Sometimes, I'd like a girl who was sturdy. The media has no bearing unless you're mindless.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:27
That will be me when i have children. Probably more so though, if she is 5"4'. I'll be pregnant and sticking out like an elephant's butt or something like that...
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:28
My son is 20 months old and already over half my wife's height and pushing 1/5th her weight so 8 year old larger cousins is all relative.

That's v.impressive, what you been feeding the kid?
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:28
That's not the point, kids grow up beign told by the media that that's how women should look.

i think they grow up thinking that's how pictures of women in magazines should look.
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 14:29
I've recently been going to bed at NINE in the morning! :D
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:29
Sometimes in my prowling days, I'd like a woman I could throw around and nearly break. Sometimes, I'd like a girl who was sturdy. The media has no bearing unless you're mindless.

There are a hell a lot of mindless media-fed drones out there I'm afraid.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:30
That's funny. :rolleyes:
If we didn't have media people would have no idea that people can look far more superior than what we see everyday, which is what causeswomen to think they need to look a certain way. Which, by the way, is also subconscious. @ Independent Homestead
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:30
I'm hungry, I might go to lunch now folks.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:31
am i the only irish person in this whole place?
God save Ireland!!!!! I may be in Canada but I am Irish through and through!!!!
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:32
Okay. Think of me Fritz when you take a bite of something good.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:33
:) :) Cheerio, toodleoo etc.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:33
Bye!
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 14:34
Okay. Think of me Fritz when you take a bite of something good.

*sighs* You know you're the only good something to bite. ;)
Take care all.
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 14:34
That's funny. :rolleyes:
If we didn't have media people would have no idea that people can look far more superior than what we see everyday, which is what causeswomen to think they need to look a certain way. Which, by the way, is also subconscious. @ Independent Homestead

I like to go through magazines with my wife and laugh at them. It's fun. Particularly when we both turn the page only to see a bony rib cage and simulataneously go "Ewww!"
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:34
That's funny. :rolleyes:
If we didn't have media people would have no idea that people can look far more superior than what we see everyday, which is what causeswomen to think they need to look a certain way. Which, by the way, is also subconscious. @ Independent Homestead

fight your subconscious - own it - it is yours - be a developed human being with a superego that absorbs, understands and tames the subconscious. etc.

it is called "growing up".
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:34
I think we shall have to beg to differ on this one as I have not got the relevant data in my office. But I still hold that the proportion theory is merely a statistical misinterpretation based on biased data.
The data is from independant studies from Britian, USA, Germany, Mediteranian countries, India and Russia. So you have to take that into account.
The odd one
25-02-2005, 14:34
God save Ireland!!!!! I may be in Canada but I am Irish through and through!!!!
hooray! :D
Éireann go brách. na Gael abú!!!
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:35
Isn't that cos it's bedtime in America?
6:30 am here in Calgary Alberta Canada!
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:36
Yes, because 8 year olds know how to do that. :rolleyes: @ Homestead
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:36
hooray! :D
Éireann go brách. na Gael abú!!!

poor old admiral nelson is no longer in the air, tooralooralooralooraloo

etc.

thing about traditional irish *nearly everything* it is in english.
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 14:37
:) :) Cheerio, toodleoo etc.
Later, Fritz :)
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:37
I saw a thing on the Discovery Channel thet said the same thing. I think a lot of people don't like the idea that some of our behavior might be pre-programed. Especially something as personal as sex.
Very VERY true!
Der Lieben
25-02-2005, 14:37
Yes, because 8 year olds know how to do that. :rolleyes: @ Homestead
I don't even wann know what this is in response to. :D

Btw, mornin' love :fluffle:
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:38
Good morning to you too. :fluffle:
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:38
Yes, because 8 year olds know how to do that. :rolleyes: @ Homestead

8 year olds are growing up. in the end they will be grown up. then they'll no how to do it.

8 year olds who don't look like magazine models need to go on a diet anyway - 8 year olds should be thin, and on the whole don't have huge boobs, fat asses or other womanly accoutrements.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:40
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Not sure I want to know why you know their weights soaking wet and I'm not sure i want to know why you know how to use a knife.
That is just a saying....... I am trained by a buddy in the SEALs (Decease- God keep his soul close) 6 martial Arts, knives 2-12", throwing weapons(knives and axes) and swords. And minor abilities in side arms. Does that tell you something?
The odd one
25-02-2005, 14:40
poor old admiral nelson is no longer in the air, tooralooralooralooraloo

etc.

thing about traditional irish *nearly everything* it is in english.
id like to be able to say that thats all because of england being in charge here for so long but its a symptom of the infeiority complex a lot of small countries have. we see something in england (for example) and think "we can do that." btw "the wild Rover" is actually an english song. we're still better though :p
Bitchkitten
25-02-2005, 14:41
I always have a hard time typing, but when reading gets hard, it's time to get some sleep. Good night. Good mornig. I'm getting some sleep. :fluffle:
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:42
Yes, and yet they feel they should have boobs. My 8 year old cousin was looking through a magazine with me one day, and she kept saying "Iwant her eyes, and her boobs, and her lips...". I asked her why she doesn't like the way she looks, this was her response, "I don;t have boobs and know one thinks I'm pretty". I told her that I thought she was pretty and she told me that guys don't like her. When someone walks into the room and steals the competiiton away (no matter what it is), you're going to feel jealous, even like there's something wrong with you. This is the same effect that occurs with media.
Kellarly
25-02-2005, 14:43
hehe i'm from stockport too. coincidences abound.

LOL...the world is visibly shrinking before my eyes!
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 14:43
8 year olds are growing up. in the end they will be grown up. then they'll no how to do it.

8 year olds who don't look like magazine models need to go on a diet anyway - 8 year olds should be thin, and on the whole don't have huge boobs, fat asses or other womanly accoutrements.

Sad thing is that at 8, they're already developing all that.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:43
Also there is shedloads of pressure from the media to be attracted to franly skeletal women.
The WAIF look comes back every 10-15 years but usually only lasts 2-3 years, The more important thing is to have a curvy healthy physique. the ratio can be any weight and fat content but leads to the hourglass shape. Not necessarily a size 0 but can be into the plus sizes as well. I in fact have met and had friends date plus size women with the ratio that looked hotter than several scrawny women I have known.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:44
It's lunchtime here, 1.22. I'm getting quite hungry actually.
Damn you! You had to mention food didn't ya?
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 14:45
Hurrah!!!! This forum is full of northerners!!!!!! I'm stuck down here in Oxford with a load of poncey southerners at the moent. It's a major culture shock.

hey, who you calling a poncey southerner?!

i'm in oxford at the moment too, i'll have you know.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:46
Origianlly posted by Omega
The WAIF look comes back every 10-15 years but usually only lasts 2-3 years, The more important thing is to have a curvy healthy physique. the ratio can be any weight and fat content but leads to the hourglass shape. Not necessarily a size 0 but can be into the plus sizes as well. I in fact have met and had friends date plus size women with the ratio that looked hotter than several scrawny women I have known.

Finally, we agree on something. :)
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:47
Yes, and yet they feel they should have boobs. My 8 year old cousin was looking through a magazine with me one day, and she kept saying "Iwant her eyes, and her boobs, and her lips...". I asked her why she doesn't like the way she looks, this was her response, "I don;t have boobs and know one thinks I'm pretty". I told her that I thought she was pretty and she told me that guys don't like her. When someone walks into the room and steals the competiiton away (no matter what it is), you're going to feel jealous, even like there's something wrong with you. This is the same effect that occurs with media.

she's 8. she needs a different environment altogether. Why is an 8 year old concerned about her sexual allure? Blaming the media is abdicating responsibility for educating your children. If she feels she should have boobs, it is quite simple to explain why she shouldn't. Are the media full of pictures of 8 year olds with boobs?

my daughter, at 8, will not be agonizing that no-one fancies her because her boobs are the wrong size. And if she is, i will be blaming myself not magazines.

although at 2, she was fond of tellng everyone she was a grown up lady with busters and a baby in her tummy.
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 14:47
hey, who you calling a poncey southerner?!

i'm in oxford at the moment too, i'll have you know.
*coughpansiescough*
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:47
blech. i don't mind skinny, as long as it's because she works out and not because she starves herself. point of fact, i prefer an athletic build.
Agreed!!!!! My wife has always been athletic and we hope to remain as such. The women I have always been attracted to have been athletic, thergo why I like women that can kick my arse.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:48
*coughpansiescough*

yeah, bloody university? what do they know about hard work? i've been to 10 gala luncheons this week, and here come the poncey oxford boys with their tungsten carbide drills...
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 14:48
*coughpansiescough*

at least i don't eat my chips with gravy.
Tiagra
25-02-2005, 14:48
You know, I think we've been on heroin chic for 15-20 years now in fashion magazines. In terms of celebrity, though, I think big boobs and ass are in again and have been for 5 years.

Sad that attractiveness has phases, eh?
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 14:49
I always have a hard time typing, but when reading gets hard, it's time to get some sleep. Good night. Good mornig. I'm getting some sleep. :fluffle:
Later, BK.
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 14:52
at least i don't eat my chips with gravy.
that reminds me of Peter Kay


"as thar nowt moist?"
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:53
That will be me when i have children. Probably more so though, if she is 5"4'. I'll be pregnant and sticking out like an elephant's butt or something like that...
She used to jokingly call herself Shamu, and say that her stomach had its own postal code. She even got self-conscious about her "counter-weight" that disappeared after our son was born. If you maintain your fitness level you can actually snap back almost immediately. My wife was back in her jeans a week after.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 14:53
at least i don't eat my chips with gravy.

because you're an uncultured heathen.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 14:54
That's v.impressive, what you been feeding the kid?
Milk, juice, vegies, meat... NO JUNK FOOD, except french fries on the occasional special event.
The odd one
25-02-2005, 14:56
at least i don't eat my chips with gravy.
i once saw a place in the isle of man that had cheesy chips with gravy. it suonds so horrible i wasn't even willing to try it, and i'd eat anything normally.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 14:59
The funny thing is you're a guy, and the media is tougher on females. This is true in two ways: media is filled with pictures of women more than they are with men. Not to mention the fact that physical differences between various women are more noticeable then they are between various men. Women all tend to want to be liked. They want to be liked by everyone, even if they don't necessarily like or care for the person (with the exception of truly despising someone). Women want to be liked by ALL men, for the most part. THey may not like the guy, but they'll still want the flattering that comes with being liked. When someone is liked by the guy or is threatening them, they're going to become angry, feeling like they aren't good enough. Girls are growing up faster and at younger ages. I was in a B-cup by the time I was 9. I never knew life with a training bra. In a year my cousin will be 9, if she has a classmate with boobs that big, she'll see the attention she'll be getting by guys and desire that as well. Media can be very harmful to people especially girls. The magazine we were looking through was 'Brides'. That kind of magazine is not supposed to be about women trying to be sexually impressive, but that is what the images in the magazine covey. Yor daughter, too, will be affected by media and she will be exposed to it, one way or another.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:00
I like to go through magazines with my wife and laugh at them. It's fun. Particularly when we both turn the page only to see a bony rib cage and simulataneously go "Ewww!"
I and my wife used to be so fit and lean you could count our ribs from accross the room but we couldn't gain weight to save our lives. So I take exception to people saying that I or my wife were like that because of the media. 2 of my neices are just the same while their sister is more solidly built and they are only 3-5. They all eat about the same amount and the same food so it is all a matter of personal genetics.
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 15:02
i once saw a place in the isle of man that had cheesy chips with gravy. it suonds so horrible i wasn't even willing to try it, and i'd eat anything normally.
it's actually quite delicious
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:02
That's funny. :rolleyes:
If we didn't have media people would have no idea that people can look far more superior than what we see everyday, which is what causeswomen to think they need to look a certain way. Which, by the way, is also subconscious. @ Independent Homestead
Genetically women are programmed to want to be wanted for their bodies while men are visually stimulated so this has more to do with this than the media. I don't argue that the weak minded can be lead to believe that they should be unhealthily scrawny.
The odd one
25-02-2005, 15:03
The funny thing is you're a guy, and the media is tougher on females. This is true in two ways: media is filled with pictures of women more than they are with men. Not to mention the fact that physical differencs between various women are mor noticeable then they are between various men. Women all tend to want to be liked. They wan to be liked by everyone, even if they don't necessarily don't like or care for them (with the exception of truly despising someone). Women want to be liked by ALL men, for the most part. THey may not like the guy, they'll still want the flattering that comes with being liked. When someone is liked by the guy or is threatening them, they're going to become angry, feeling like they aren't good enough. Girls are growing up faster and at younger ages. I was in a B-cup by the time I was 9. I never knew life with a training bra. In a year my cousin will be 9, if she has a classmate with boobs that big, she'll see the attention she'll be getting by guys and desire that as well. Mecan be very harmful to people especially girls. The magazine we were looking through was 'Brides'. That kind of magazine is not supposed to be about women trying to be sexually impressive, but that is what the images in the magazine covey. Yor daughter, too, will be affected by media and she will be exposed to it, one way or another.
i agree completely, us guys are more likely to ignore someone we dont like/ who doesnt likeus. but whereas there may not be as much pressure on guys to look a certain way, the pressure to act in a way that is expected is pretty strong.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:04
poor old admiral nelson is no longer in the air, tooralooralooralooraloo

etc.

thing about traditional irish *nearly everything* it is in english.
Of course we Irish had to dumb it down for you english!
:eek: :p :D :p :eek:
The odd one
25-02-2005, 15:06
it's actually quite delicious
i guess the mix of cheese and gravy is just a foreign concept to me. but i loooove gravy i try to use the gravy after everybody else 'cause then i don't have to leave them any.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:06
Originally posted by The Odd One
i agree completely, us guys are more likely to ignore someone we dont like/ who doesnt likeus. but whereas there may not be as much pressure on guys to look a certain way, the pressure to act in a way that is expected is pretty strong.

Thank you! :)
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:06
Yes, and yet they feel they should have boobs. My 8 year old cousin was looking through a magazine with me one day, and she kept saying "Iwant her eyes, and her boobs, and her lips...". I asked her why she doesn't like the way she looks, this was her response, "I don;t have boobs and know one thinks I'm pretty". I told her that I thought she was pretty and she told me that guys don't like her. When someone walks into the room and steals the competiiton away (no matter what it is), you're going to feel jealous, even like there's something wrong with you. This is the same effect that occurs with media.
VERY GOOD POINT!!!!!
The Wicked One
25-02-2005, 15:07
Why bother worrying if your boobs are too big or too small. More than a mouthful is a waste anyways, the rest is jusy eye candy.
The odd one
25-02-2005, 15:14
Why bother worrying if your boobs are too big or too small. More than a mouthful is a waste anyways, the rest is jusy eye candy.
what an unusual thing to say.....
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 15:15
Why bother worrying if your boobs are too big or too small. More than a mouthful is a waste anyways, the rest is jusy eye candy.
I think Keruvalia said it best earlier, something like if you're not using both hands and your mouth then you're not doing it right!
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:16
Finally, we agree on something. :)
This was the point I was trying to make all along but it kept getting lost in the arguements. Not with you but others. I have been very supportive of your position or at least tried to be. Yes unfortunately 8 year olds are once again becoming the folcrum point. There was a time when 12 was the age to be married and now 11-12 is the age to be fully developed, in part because of all the steriroids in our food now adays. It is starting way too soon and I wish for the days when kids could be kids till they were well into their teens.
The odd one
25-02-2005, 15:16
I think Keruvalia said it best earlier, something like if you're not using both hands and your mouth then you're not doing it right!
try get the feet workin'. now there's a challenge.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:18
You know, I think we've been on heroin chic for 15-20 years now in fashion magazines. In terms of celebrity, though, I think big boobs and ass are in again and have been for 5 years.

Sad that attractiveness has phases, eh?
Itès all tied into fashion.
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 15:18
Why bother worrying if your boobs are too big or too small. More than a mouthful is a waste anyways, the rest is jusy eye candy.

So, what you're saying here, is that if a woman is too big to fit in your mouth, it's just wasted? The average woman's brain would not fit in your mouth ... which parts would you cut out?

How about her arms or legs?

Everything on the human body is an erogenous zone if you know what you're doing. If you're wasting your time on only bite sized portions, then you're leaving one very unsatisfied woman.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:19
Now, I am scared....
You have to love Keruvalia though he's so religious and yet he can make comments like that. I think Jesusaves wuold have convulsions if he entered this thread.
The odd one
25-02-2005, 15:21
So, what you're saying here, is that if a woman is too big to fit in your mouth, it's just wasted? The average woman's brain would not fit in your mouth ... which parts would you cut out?

How about her arms or legs?

Everything on the human body is an erogenous zone if you know what you're doing. If you're wasting your time on only bite sized portions, then you're leaving one very unsatisfied woman.
it's actually possible to train a part of your body to be a mega-erogenous zone. although it might be embarrasing if you get really excited everytime you shake hands with someone.
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 15:28
it's actually possible to train a part of your body to be a mega-erogenous zone. although it might be embarrasing if you get really excited everytime you shake hands with someone.
Heh hehhhhh :D
Ro-Ro
25-02-2005, 15:28
Hurrah!!!! This forum is full of northerners!!!!!! I'm stuck down here in Oxford with a load of poncey southerners at the moent. It's a major culture shock.
Hey, hey! Watch who you callin' poncey, Fritzy! :)
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 15:28
Now, I am scared....
You have to love Keruvalia though he's so religious and yet he can make comments like that. I think Jesusaves wuold have convulsions if he entered this thread.

When you're part of a religion that has a deep and abiding appreciation for sex and knows that human sexuality is a gift from Allah and not to be shunned, it isn't difficult. :)

Only certain sects of Christianity find sex to be evil. Islam and Judaism see its beauty. Just look at all the naughty little poems by King Solomon or Rabi'ah al Adawiyya!

"Bless evermore the beloved one from his soul spills light and perfume."
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 15:29
it's actually possible to train a part of your body to be a mega-erogenous zone. although it might be embarrasing if you get really excited everytime you shake hands with someone.

rofl! yeah ... but such fun!
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:30
I didn't know you were Muslim. I thought you were Christian. :(
The Wicked One
25-02-2005, 15:30
what i was simply trying to say is that size really doesn't matter, and i am speaking in terms of adults here. Its all in making her feel comfortable about herself.

Personally, I like the plumper, victorian era type of woman, not the heroin chicks.
Ro-Ro
25-02-2005, 15:30
When you're part of a religion that has a deep and abiding appreciation for sex and knows that human sexuality is a gift from Allah and not to be shunned, it isn't difficult. :)

Only certain sects of Christianity find sex to be evil. Islam and Judaism see its beauty. Just look at all the naughty little poems by King Solomon or Rabi'ah al Adawiyya!
"Bless evermore the beloved one from his soul spills light and perfume."
Yeah, and stuff like "Her thighs are like branches and her breasts are apples. I said to myself, "I will climb up the tree and take the fruit."
Eutrusca
25-02-2005, 15:31
I didn't know you were Muslim. I thought you were Christian. :(
Ut oh! [ hides ]
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 15:32
I didn't know you were Muslim. I thought you were Christian. :(

Ooooh ... no ... never been Christian. :) I am curious, though ... what drew you to that conclusion?
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:32
Eutrusca, can I hide behind you when Keruvalia comes after me? Don't kill me Keruvalia, Allah might not be too happy with that.
Ro-Ro
25-02-2005, 15:33
So, what you're saying here, is that if a woman is too big to fit in your mouth, it's just wasted? The average woman's brain would not fit in your mouth ... which parts would you cut out?

How about her arms or legs?

Everything on the human body is an erogenous zone if you know what you're doing. If you're wasting your time on only bite sized portions, then you're leaving one very unsatisfied woman.
Mmmmmmmm, yes
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:33
The funny thing is you're a guy, and the media is tougher on females. This is true in two ways: media is filled with pictures of women more than they are with men. Not to mention the fact that physical differences between various women are more noticeable then they are between various men. Women all tend to want to be liked. They want to be liked by everyone, even if they don't necessarily like or care for the person (with the exception of truly despising someone). Women want to be liked by ALL men, for the most part. THey may not like the guy, but they'll still want the flattering that comes with being liked. When someone is liked by the guy or is threatening them, they're going to become angry, feeling like they aren't good enough. Girls are growing up faster and at younger ages. I was in a B-cup by the time I was 9. I never knew life with a training bra. In a year my cousin will be 9, if she has a classmate with boobs that big, she'll see the attention she'll be getting by guys and desire that as well. Media can be very harmful to people especially girls. The magazine we were looking through was 'Brides'. That kind of magazine is not supposed to be about women trying to be sexually impressive, but that is what the images in the magazine covey. Yor daughter, too, will be affected by media and she will be exposed to it, one way or another.
You make a very good point. But that brings us back to my point about the way we are genetically programmed. Women by their very nature want to be wanted for their bodies while men are visually stimulated. Women are stimulated by intamacy and touch, 2 things that can not be transmitted via the media. It is VERY true that too much emphasis is put on these young girls that develop too early, but it is only natural for these boys to be paying attention to them. I had a very close friend that didnèt really develop until she was in grade 12 and that was VERY hard on her. I will point out that my viewpoint is a little scewed having grown up with a sinlge mother in the modeling game. So I grew up as an insidere to the fashion world and try to accept and acknowledge other view points but I know that there is alot of BS about what goes on in that lifestyle.
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 15:33
Eutrusca, can I hide behind you when Keruvalia comes after me? Don't kill me Keruvalia, Allah might not be too happy with that.

Oh come out of hiding, silly. It's very hard to anger a Muslim.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:34
I'm not sure. I just remember going through your quotes and seeing a lot of responses to Jesussaves. Everything makes a lot more sense know. :)
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:35
I think Keruvalia said it best earlier, something like if you're not using both hands and your mouth then you're not doing it right!
Unless one hand is busy doing other things!
try get the feet workin'. now there's a challenge.One word EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
:confused: :headbang: :confused:
Eutrusca
25-02-2005, 15:37
it's actually possible to train a part of your body to be a mega-erogenous zone. although it might be embarrasing if you get really excited everytime you shake hands with someone.
Yes, you are correct! Via operant conditioning, and even "neurolinguistic programming," it's even possible to train your partner to have an orgasm everytime you tell her ( perhaps him as well! ) to! :)
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:38
I see what you're saying, but the media exploits people by ignoring how they're "genetically programmed". I do agree with Independent Homestead that it is a parents responsibility to protect their children from the media. However, children will see and hear these things somewhere, at some point. So, you need to listen to your children and talk with them. Ignoring how they will natrually respond to them is ignorant. By the way, I will be majoring in Fashion Design, so you won't get any lifestyle BS from me. @ Omega the Black
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 15:38
Yes, you are correct! Via operant conditioning, and even "neurolinguistic programming," it's even possible to train your partner to have an orgasm everytime you tell her ( perhaps him as well! ) to! :)
Of course, there's always the possibility that that could be abused.
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 15:38
I'm not sure. I just remember going through your quotes and seeing a lot of responses to Jesussaves. Everything makes a lot more sense know. :)

Well, we do hold Isa (Jesus) in high regard as a prophet and are very familiar with his teachings. However, we also know that Paul perverted Isa's teachings to further his own greedy design and when someone quotes Paul as scripture, we tend to argue the finer points.

Besides ... Jesussaves is just too much fun not to argue with. Best. Troll. Ever.
FairyTInkArisen
25-02-2005, 15:38
Yes, you are correct! Via operant conditioning, and even "neurolinguistic programming," it's even possible to train your partner to have an orgasm everytime you tell her ( perhaps him as well! ) to! :)
that's awesome! i wonder where I could get that done
Eutrusca
25-02-2005, 15:39
Oh come out of hiding, silly. It's very hard to anger a Muslim.
Hmm! Perhaps those like you it is, but there are some ... ! :eek:
Eutrusca
25-02-2005, 15:39
that's awesome! i wonder where I could get that done
No comment! :D
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:41
So, what you're saying here, is that if a woman is too big to fit in your mouth, it's just wasted? The average woman's brain would not fit in your mouth ... which parts would you cut out?

How about her arms or legs?

Everything on the human body is an erogenous zone if you know what you're doing. If you're wasting your time on only bite sized portions, then you're leaving one very unsatisfied woman.
VERY TRUE! I know a good half dozen women that would like to meet you! Guy or Girl I know women in both fields.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:41
I agree. Jesussaves is great his poll will be on 'NSers say the darndest things...' sometime today. I'm sorry my thread caused you to want to take a nap. :(
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 15:43
Hmm! Perhaps those like you it is, but there are some ... ! :eek:

Meh ... few and far between. Oh, sure, we get angry if you send planes to bomb us, but I can't imagine anyone who doesn't get a little miffed at that. However, a simple misunderstanding isn't enough.
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 15:44
VERY TRUE! I know a good half dozen women that would like to meet you! Guy or Girl I know women in both fields.

Well I'll meet anyone. :D Oh ... and I'm a guy.
Eutrusca
25-02-2005, 15:44
Of course, there's always the possibility that that could be abused.
Very true. And it has been. :mad:
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:44
Now, I am scared....
You have to love Keruvalia though he's so religious and yet he can make comments like that. I think Jesusaves wuold have convulsions if he entered this thread.
Hey we Christians can still make great Lovers. After all God gave us the talent for it and the ability to enjoy it! Oh and lord knows my wife and I enjoy it to the fullest!
Keruvalia
25-02-2005, 15:45
I agree. Jesussaves is great his poll will be on 'NSers say the darndest things...' sometime today. I'm sorry my thread caused you to want to take a nap. :(

lol ... no no ... it was just confusing ... the structure was a little strange.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:46
When you're part of a religion that has a deep and abiding appreciation for sex and knows that human sexuality is a gift from Allah and not to be shunned, it isn't difficult. :)

Only certain sects of Christianity find sex to be evil. Islam and Judaism see its beauty. Just look at all the naughty little poems by King Solomon or Rabi'ah al Adawiyya!

"Bless evermore the beloved one from his soul spills light and perfume."
Praise be to Allah-God-Jehovah!
Eutrusca
25-02-2005, 15:46
Meh ... few and far between. Oh, sure, we get angry if you send planes to bomb us, but I can't imagine anyone who doesn't get a little miffed at that. However, a simple misunderstanding isn't enough.
Don't start! [ you know how I get! ] :D
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 15:47
where can i learn how to do some of that neurolinguistic programming?
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:47
I agree. It's very confusing and disorganized because I had to do it I'll on the thread. My computer is a lazy piece of shit and I can't open windows with the explorer up (at least not usually). So all of my information for the competition is all on the thread.
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:49
Eutrusca, can I hide behind you when Keruvalia comes after me? Don't kill me Keruvalia, Allah might not be too happy with that.
Not Keruvaliaès style! Too much of a good upstanding Muslim and Human! I used to be like that and strive to be again, only Christian.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:50
Eutrusca made it sound like I was in for it.
Eutrusca
25-02-2005, 15:50
where can i learn how to do some of that neurolinguistic programming?
It's actually quite simple once you understand it. If you like, I can cover the basics on here later. I'll soon be leaving for my doctor's appointment. :eek:
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:51
GL at the doctors. I'm glad I don't have to go today.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:52
The poll closes in four minutes. Then, I'll put Jesussaves up.
The Plutonian Empire
25-02-2005, 15:55
The poll closes in four minutes. Then, I'll put Jesussaves up.
Which poll's about to close? the "ns'ers say the darnedest things"?
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 15:55
I see what you're saying, but the media exploits people by ignoring how they're "genetically programmed". I do agree with Independent Homestead that it is a parents responsibility to protect their children from the media. However, children will see and hear these things somewhere, at some point. So, you need to listen to your children and talk with them. Ignoring how they will natrually respond to them is ignorant. By the way, I will be majoring in Fashion Design, so you won't get any lifestyle BS from me. @ Omega the Black
Wasnèt trying to infer you would give me BS, sorry! Point dead on the nailhead.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:56
Yes, it has now closed.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 15:56
I didn't say you were. I just wanted you to know I understand. @ Omega
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 16:01
It's actually quite simple once you understand it. If you like, I can cover the basics on here later. I'll soon be leaving for my doctor's appointment. :eek:
I have had more than my fill of doctors in the last 2 years so I pity you buddy!
I didn't say you were. I just wanted you to know I understand. @ Omega
Just so long as we are cool!
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 16:03
I am finally tired enough to overcome my pain level so I am going to go pass out for a couple of hours here pretty quick.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:05
Hello all! The pull of talking about breasts was just too strong! I have returned!
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:06
Oskana, are you really in oxford? How exciting!
Omega the Black
25-02-2005, 16:06
Hello all! The pull of talking about breasts was just too strong! I have returned!
Just in time for me to go to bed and play with my wifes tities!
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:09
No wait, it's Oscarina who's in oxford. How confusing.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:10
Just in time for me to go to bed and play with my wifes tities!

You wicked man. Unfortunately the tities of my girlfriends are far to far away for that sort of thing.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:11
How rude! I go away for lunch and come back and find no one responsive.
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 16:19
yes yes, oscarina is in oxford.

she's meant to be doing work right now....

which is why she's on nationstates. vital research. if only i was doing PPE, i could probably get away with saying that....
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:19
You do know you're all forcing me to do some actual work by this heinous action don't you?
I'll go write my essay on primitve political systems then.
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 16:20
you actually .are. a PPEist? well then, you can get away with saying you're doing vital research!
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:20
What subject are you doing?
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:21
I'm an archaeologist and anthropologist. I suppose i could still get away with saying i was doing anthropology research.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 16:22
No, I'm in Wisconsin. Isn't that exciting? It's snowing AGAIN. Damn snow.
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 16:22
I'm a PPPer myself, although I only do 2 of the Ps, Psychology & Philosophy. I'm a first year, at the college that rhymes with 'sodom'.

& yourself?
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 16:24
wow, my cousin does arch & anth, she's at the college that isn't spelt at all how it's pronounced.

small world!
Oksana
25-02-2005, 16:25
Hey Omega, about the embassy... if you could not mention this thread to the people in my region, that would be great. I don't know how well it will go over with the older people in my region.
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
25-02-2005, 16:26
I've always said that more than a hand full is wasted...
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:27
I'm going arch and anth at keble
Couldn't think of a clever way of saying that without saying it.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:27
Oscarina, you do realise that your college is just down the road from me.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:28
Rather apt that your college rhymes with sodom given it's reputation.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 16:28
bunch of smartarses.

oxford reject here.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 16:29
Someone go vote on the new poll.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:29
bunch of smartarses.

oxford reject here.

It's all relative my friend. I went for a slacker's subject and got in because i'm a good slacker, others go for a hard-working subject because they're hard-working.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:31
I'm a PPPer myself, although I only do 2 of the Ps, Psychology & Philosophy. I'm a first year, at the college that rhymes with 'sodom'.

& yourself?

I nearly did PPP myself but changed my mind at the last minute. I'm glad i did. I hear you PPPers have to actually do work.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:32
Someone go vote on the new poll.

Which new poll? If it's about anything other than breasts I'm not interested. lol
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 16:32
yes, you are just up the road, at the college i could have identified as the 'one there's a society for the destruction of'. i know someone who's a member, they have one of your bricks!

personally, i think keble's really pretty from the inside. i came to a drama workshop in your theatre last term.

i know, but 'sodom' really isn't as gay as people say. sure, we host queer bop, but i'm sure we have a below-average number of deviant sexualities. i went to the LGBT drinks in college last term and there were only about 8 people there. out of 500! that's WAY below statistics.
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 16:33
and, yes, i have to do work. i actually have prelims this term.

death!
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:33
Hey Oscarina, I'm in this week's Oxstu if you're interested. In the drama section in the review of a play called Woman in Mind, I'm called Ben.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 16:34
It's all relative my friend. I went for a slacker's subject and got in because i'm a good slacker, others go for a hard-working subject because they're hard-working.

i went for theology and still didn't get in. then again, it took me 7 years to get my degree so maybe they knew what they were on about.
Oksana
25-02-2005, 16:34
Too bad Fritz, I want you to vote. 'NSers say the darndest things...(Jesussaves)'.
Independent Homesteads
25-02-2005, 16:35
Hey Oscarina, I'm in this week's Oxstu if you're interested. In the drama section in the review of a play called Woman in Mind, I'm called Ben.

calling all stalkers - calling all stalkers -etc
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:36
yes, you are just up the road, at the college i could have identified as the 'one there's a society for the destruction of'. i know someone who's a member, they have one of your bricks!

personally, i think keble's really pretty from the inside. i came to a drama workshop in your theatre last term.

i know, but 'sodom' really isn't as gay as people say. sure, we host queer bop, but i'm sure we have a below-average number of deviant sexualities. i went to the LGBT drinks in college last term and there were only about 8 people there. out of 500! that's WAY below statistics.

If you do drama I've almost certainly met you at some point. I did the set for Enter a free man at the start of this term at the O'Reilly and I know people like Poppy.
Oscarina
25-02-2005, 16:37
yes, i could be a 40-yr-old man for all you know ;)

luckily, i'm not. my friend's in oxstu this week as well - she did the article on eating disorders last week, and this week she interviewed will self, even though she'd never read any of his books, lol.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:39
calling all stalkers - calling all stalkers -etc

I'll survive, I find my stalkers to be quite an ego boost.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:40
yes, i could be a 40-yr-old man for all you know ;)

luckily, i'm not. my friend's in oxstu this week as well - she did the article on eating disorders last week, and this week she interviewed will self, even though she'd never read any of his books, lol.

Seriously you should come and see my play next week, it's gonna be amazing.
Fritz von Splurgenhof
25-02-2005, 16:42
I never thought I'd be doing marketing on Nation States LOL
Oksana
25-02-2005, 16:42
Thank you for voting IH. We now have reached 100 pages of this thread. I wonder if that has happened before.
Cogitation
25-02-2005, 16:43
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