NationStates Jolt Archive

I don't think I'm acting wrong, I've never lusted after a married woman, or indeed any woman for that matter.

If my writing displeases God, I'll repent and that ends the matter.

You don't understand. Perseverance of the Saints, if God has Elected you, you're going, whether you like it or not, whether you're righteous or whether you sin, for in the end, it's predestinated that you will repent all that you've done, and you will gain and understanding of just how much God loves you, since He takes you into heaven regardless of what the reprobate say.

How do you reconcile the concept of the 'elect', with the idea that faith without works is dead?

And with the fact that Jesus said he will not refuse any that came to him?

I have a job, didn't you read that. I work, I don't know what you do. Speaking of which, I have to go in 50 minutes or I may very well be late.

I don't know what you do either, all I know is that you CLAIM to work.

Of course, you also claim to be uninterested in women, to be a prophet of 'god', and to have been unbelieveably popular, sexually...

It's hard to know quite what to believe, my friend.

How do you reconcile the concept of the 'elect', with the idea that faith without works is dead?

And with the fact that Jesus said he will not refuse any that came to him?


Read the entire book of Romans, the common theme is, "Not by works are we justified, but through grace alone, and faith is a gift, from God."


Jesus will refuse those who mocked the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 12:30-32
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Nope, sorry, you're wrong. You don't even study the bible except for reasons to attempt to deceive God's Elect and attempt to make them think they're not Elected. But I know I'm Elected, so I say take your leave, reprobate.

On the contrary, friend.

I study the bible in the search for truth.

You do not live 'in the spirit', therefore, you live 'in the flesh'.

Thus, you are a sinner... and non-repentant, at that.

Thus... well, you know the rest.

On the contrary, friend.

I study the bible in the search for truth.

You do not live 'in the spirit', therefore, you live 'in the flesh'.

Thus, you are a sinner... and non-repentant, at that.

Thus... well, you know the rest.


The 5th Point, "Perseverance of the Saints", once saved always saved, God will not alter the number of the Elect or reprobate by a single digit. If you were Elected, you remain Elected and WILL be in heaven.

I don't think I'm acting wrong, I've never lusted after a married woman, or indeed any woman for that matter.

If my writing displeases God, I'll repent and that ends the matter.

You don't understand. Perseverance of the Saints, if God has Elected you, you're going, whether you like it or not, whether you're righteous or whether you sin, for in the end, it's predestinated that you will repent all that you've done, and you will gain and understanding of just how much God loves you, since He takes you into heaven regardless of what the reprobate say.

Well, I am having a hard time understanding how writing pornography keeps someone in the Elect. Do you believe Larry Flynt is in the Elect? Is Hugh Hefner?

In other words, how can you condemn others for immorality when you are posting immorality for all to see?

Just a quick question for you, VE.

Isn't pride a sin? You seem rather pleased with your "Elect" status.

Well, I am having a hard time understanding how writing pornography keeps someone in the Elect. Do you believe Larry Flynt is in the Elect? Is Hugh Hefner?

In other words, how can you condemn others for immorality when you are posting immorality for all to see?


I don't write pornography. Anyway, I keep saying this, if God, in eternity past, wrote your name in the book of Life, you are saved, and nothing will ever change that. If God didn't write your name in the book of Life, you are doomed, and nothing will ever change that.

Read the entire book of Romans, the common theme is, "Not by works are we justified, but through grace alone, and faith is a gift, from God."


Jesus will refuse those who mocked the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 12:30-32
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

And yet, James clearly states that faith alone is useless.

Are you saying the bible is contradictory?

And, I note - you ignore the fact that Jesus promised salvation to many more than just the 'elect'.

Just a quick question for you, VE.

Isn't pride a sin? You seem rather pleased with your "Elect" status.


The Elect are to be exalted over the Reprobate, and they will be allowed to spend eternity looking down into hell and laughing as they see all Reprobate burning in hell.

I look forward to an eternity of laughing at all Arminianist heretics, Catholics, non-Calvinist Protestants, Unitarians, Mormons, and then all of the non-Christians of the world taken as a whole.

If you are not destined to accept Calvinism, you will not accept it, and indeed God could have planned it so that seconds before you pass away, you accept the 5 points, realize your Election, and are saved.

But I can tell you this with a degree of certainty, not a single non-Calvinist will be in the kingdom of heaven.

And yet, James clearly states that faith alone is useless.

Are you saying the bible is contradictory?

And, I note - you ignore the fact that Jesus promised salvation to many more than just the 'elect'.


Read Romans, Romans, faith is all that matters, and it is a gift from God, bestowed unto the Elect. Works are meaningless, they mean nothing, lest man boast that he is the cause of his salvation. Man is nothing without God.

If you can't find a virgin on a message board populated largely by teenage RPGers, you're hopeless.

I offered... he said... "No palming me off with some 14 year old, who lives in his parents basement, and collects starwars figures"...

I'm damned if I do, and I'm damned if I don't...

Read Romans, Romans, faith is all that matters, and it is a gift from God, bestowed unto the Elect. Works are meaningless, they mean nothing, lest man boast that he is the cause of his salvation. Man is nothing without God.
So you are saying that James was wrong?

You now claim the bible is in error?

The Elect are to be exalted over the Reprobate, and they will be allowed to spend eternity looking down into hell and laughing as they see all Reprobate burning in hell.

I look forward to an eternity of laughing at all Arminianist heretics, Catholics, non-Calvinist Protestants, Unitarians, Mormons, and then all of the non-Christians of the world taken as a whole.

If you are not destined to accept Calvinism, you will not accept it, and indeed God could have planned it so that seconds before you pass away, you accept the 5 points, realize your Election, and are saved.

But I can tell you this with a degree of certainty, not a single non-Calvinist will be in the kingdom of heaven.

And, since I know real-life Calvanists, I know that you are just a troll.

Keep flamebaiting, little troll.

And, since I know real-life Calvanists, I know that you are just a troll.

Keep flamebaiting, little troll.


I'm not a reformed modern Calvinist who follows Arminian heresies. I follow the form of Calvinism preached by Pastor Phelps.

Well, I am having a hard time understanding how writing pornography keeps someone in the Elect. Do you believe Larry Flynt is in the Elect? Is Hugh Hefner?

In other words, how can you condemn others for immorality when you are posting immorality for all to see?

According to scripture... he can't (if it IS a he...).

He could only be forgiven sins for which he was contrite... and denial isn't the same as contrition.

I'm not a reformed modern Calvinist who follows Arminian heresies. I follow the form of Calvinism preached by Pastor Phelps.

So - you CLAIM to be a member of a heretic cult?