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Right, like on the girlfriend you're bringing. :cool:
wow. :(

wow. :(
What?

What?
denial is a powerful thing. look, the point is, you're going to be sodomized. :mad:

denial is a powerful thing. look, the point is, you're going to be sodomized. :mad:
Weren't you paying attention? She's comin over with her girlfriend to BE sodomized not to DO any sodomizing.

Oh, boy , Instead of reading Mulder/ Krychek or Legolas/Aragorn slash I can make Gilbert/Vynnland slash. ;)

Oh, boy , Instead of reading Mulder/ Krychek or Legolas/Aragorn slash I can make Gilbert/Vynnland slash. ;)
OK, now you get your lube back, but it'll have sand in it. Now get yourself, your girlfriend and that vibrator over here already before it gets any worse for you.

OK, now you get your lube back, but it'll have sand in it. Now get yourself, your girlfriend and that vibrator over here already before it gets any worse for you.
that's just malicious. i wouldn't sodomize you, if i was that guy she's bringin.

that's just malicious. i wouldn't sodomize you, if i was that guy she's bringin.
That guy is a chick, she's just pullin your leg. ;)

That guy is a chick, she's just pullin your leg. ;)
alls i know is that someone is getting their leg pulled, and someone, maybe the same person, is getting done up the poop chute.

Roflmao

alls i know is that someone is getting their leg pulled, and someone, maybe the same person, is getting done up the poop chute.
Bitchkitten? Nah, I'm being perfectly straight with her.

Roflmao
i hope you enjoyed that.

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Mr. DeAngelo, don't you know that hawking your stuff on message boards is considered rude? ;-)

Bible, bible, bible.
I don't care what a patriachal society's dusty book tells me to do as I'm an atheist. People should base decisions on what they feel is morally right in their heart, how much they feel 'sex' is a symbol. It's like saying anyone who is agnostic or atheist believes sex should be compulsary before marriage. It's an individuals decision and in the non-existant ideal world the partner would not ask what that decision was.

(grr...took to long to write this and have to wait until tomorrow morning to send it.))

Edit: post I was responding to...
In an ideal world, everybody would be a virgin until their wedding night. This isn't an ideal world.


In an ideal world, AIDs and Syphilis wouldn't even exist. All I can say is this, "Fine, don't ask, don't make your partner's sexual history an issue, when you get something, you can crawl into a free clinic." Sorry if that sounded offensive, it wasn't meant as such, it's meant to shock you into realizing the seriousness of the situation.

Sex isn't a game, it could kill you (HIV) and at worst, it could cost you your immortal soul.

Sex is really meant for inside of marriage, although if you have sex with an unmarried and unengaged woman, I think the bible commands you have to marry her or else it won't bode well for you with God.



I guess my ideal world is different from your ideal world.

In an ideal world, AIDs and Syphilis wouldn't even exist.
Except that then we would be excluding one species of bacterium, Treponema pallidum and two species of virus, Lentivirus HIV-1 and Lentivirus HIV-2. So that's xenocide. What kind of ideal world has it where you forbid certain organisms, or at least self-replicating entities, from existing?

Sex isn't a game, it could kill you (HIV) and at worst, it could cost you your immortal soul.
I've decided that you have no right to talk about epidemiology anymore.

Of course I won't do that, since we are commanded to "Be fruitful and multiply" and the bible sanctions sex, inside of marriage, as a wonderful and indeed holy, thing. "What God hath put together, let no man put asunder." Marriage is a holy union and procreation is a part of that union.
You are, of course, aware that polyamory is the best way to procreate. Polygyny really is the most effective mode of reproduction for sexually reproducing organisms, sans those parthenogens.

The nice guy, since he is nice, isn't so worried about his appearance and thinks he can get by socially on personality.
I personally don't worry much about my appearance. But it's not because I am nice or anything, it's because I really just don't care. I make a slight effort, but nothing to speak of. Though hygiene is a different matter.

How much do you want to bet that he doesn't act like an insecure and nervous little boy around her?
How much do you want to bet that neither do I?

Beautiful women deal with guys that try to manipulate them into dates by acting like they want to be their friends ALL THE TIME. Generally speaking, when a man is talking to a woman, usually what he's REALLY saying is "Want some d*ck?" Most women know this and don't really even object. It's when men are dishonest about it that there's an issue. Honesty is one of the first steps towards creating attraction.
I fail to see how this addresses women getting mad at men who are actually not being dishonest and really are not just looking for some sex.

The next step is creatine attraction. Women NEED to feel attraction for a man in order to take a romantic step.
I fully agree, just from a less androcentric point of view. You are, of course, aware that women can indeed also feel attraction too, and that it's not only males who get crushes.

Absolutely, women like having fun. Having fun generates emotions and endorphines, which in turn generates attraction.
However, opioid use decreases endorphin production, and exercise increases it. I wager I can guess which one is more attractive in great quantities. Basically, stick to psychology or physiology, don't say things like "emotions and endorphins" since that's an incongruous statement. Endorphins affect the psyche, which falls under the emotions part. I'm not explaining this very well, though...

However, as far as deeply ingrained instincts go, we're all pretty much the same.
Some. Sociobiology is a very tricky subject because there are so many things that are common in societies, but not ubiquitous. But I won't get into that here, though it is indeed a fascinating subject.

Animals all have their "mating dance" that they go through. We have one too. Men who know how the dance goes are the "luck guys", those who don't are the "unlucky guys". Certain behaviors elicit certain reactions that are beyond our control. Do you agree or disagree with that last sentence? Why or why not?
Kind of. A lot of human behaviour is learned, much more so than is true with most organisms. There are certain constants, indeed. But humans do not have as established courtship rituals as other organisms.

Screw competition. If you have to compete for a girl, then she isnt The One. That's my philosophy. If I have to fight/compete with a guy for a girl, I just drop it and go away, leaving the other guy to have her. I'm not gonna waste my energy on useless competition, and neither should you.
Well then that's your loss. There are two methods of getting a mate. Wooing and winning. Unless you're willing to partake of both, you will probably not get the best mate with which to pass on your genes. Or, if you prefer, just getting the best partner. There are typically reasons that you have to compete for a mate, even in Fisherean instances. And you won't even get the crème, much less the crème de la crème, if your too pathetic to even compete. Competition is a beautiful thing.

Of course the human species is the one most obsessed with sex.
One reason why humans are usually 'molested by aliens' during 'abductions'.

Of course the human species is the one most obsessed with sex.
What, now? If you include porpoises, than yes. Because, neurologically speaking, we're the only two organisms that feel pleasure from sex. Yes, dolphins do indeed engage in group sex too. There are also other examples, like the pygmy chimpanzee, more commonly known as the bonobo, or Pan paniscus, which indulges in orgies, despite the apparent lack of pleasure from it.

Men will need to be forced, by a strong theocratic government, to behave in a proper manner.

Is it really the government's responsibility to enforce God's will? Why can't people just choose if they want to be saved, and act accordingly, and act differently if they don't want to be saved? Surely if people are forced to behave by God's will, they will lack true faith?

What, now? If you include porpoises, than yes. Because, neurologically speaking, we're the only two organisms that feel pleasure from sex. Yes, dolphins do indeed engage in group sex too. There are also other examples, like the pygmy chimpanzee, more commonly known as the bonobo, or Pan paniscus, which indulges in orgies, despite the apparent lack of pleasure from it.
they do it for political gain, and peacekeeping measures. But hten, why to several species of primate masturbate, if not for pleasure? are they really trying ot avoid prostate cancer? :D

To clean themselves out.

they do it for political gain, and peacekeeping measures.
Well, it probably falls more into the category of social unity, but that's also possible. It is easy to find out the what, but the why is a little more tricky.

Well, it probably falls more into the category of social unity, but that's also possible. It is easy to find out the what, but the why is a little more tricky.
i do my best to not hold humanity so high above the rest of the kingdom (not suggesting you do, just headachy, cranky, and unable to think of a better way to put that) so when i see a species that performs certain actions to maintain bonds with other groups, that works hard to solidify individual power, i see rudimentary politics. now, once your frontal lobes get a little more kick to them, you start figuring out better ways to appease those whom you have offended, trod on, what have you than simply fucking them, but i digress. they fuck for political gain, and that thought makes me very happy.

Close. But I don't want to blow his cover. Besides, JS is catholic, I don't think they like each other.
It's obviously VoteEarly aka Decisive Action aka Tennete Traditiones.

i do my best to not hold humanity so high above the rest of the kingdom (not suggesting you do, just headachy, cranky, and unable to think of a better way to put that)
Ok, good, because I would get really pissed if you even insinuated that I did. Because I vehemently hold that we are Homo sapiens sapiens, of the subfamily Homininae, family Hominidae, order Primates, class Mammalia, phylum Chordata, kingdom Animalia, domain Eukaryota. We are nothing more than a species of mammal with a particularly bulbous brain.

so when i see a species that performs certain actions to maintain bonds with other groups, that works hard to solidify individual power, i see rudimentary politics. now, once your frontal lobes get a little more kick to them, you start figuring out better ways to appease those whom you have offended, trod on, what have you than simply fucking them, but i digress. they fuck for political gain, and that thought makes me very happy.
Eh, that would be more plausible if there was any neurological evidence that there was pleasure assosicated with copulation. They want sex, but don't feel the sexual pleasure that we humans, and dolphins, do. Sex in other primates may have a political part, but evidence shows that it's a more cooperative activity, less competative.

Ok, good, because I would get really pissed if you even insinuated that I did. Because I vehemently hold that we are Homo sapiens sapiens, of the subfamily Homininae, family Hominidae, order Primates, class Mammalia, phylum Chordata, kingdom Animalia, domain Eukaryota. We are nothing more than a species of mammal with a particularly bulbous brain.


Eh, that would be more plausible if there was any neurological evidence that there was pleasure assosicated with copulation. They want sex, but don't feel the sexual pleasure that we humans, and dolphins, do. Sex in other primates may have a political part, but evidence shows that it's a more cooperative activity, less competative.
which is my point. but surely there must be some kind of pleasure involved, i'm sorry, maybe it's the meds talkin, but i find it difficult to believe that they would have copulate without intent to procreate if it did not give them some kind of pleasure.
here's a completely off topic question. was the advanced frontal lobe our species is blessed with a developement before or after africanus (sp?)?

It's obviously VoteEarly aka Decisive Action aka Tennete Traditiones.


The mods already confirmed it, I do believe, that I am not TT.

I am VE and DA, and before that CM, those are the only accounts I've ever posted under.


1st= Communist Mississippi

2nd= Decisive Action

3rd= VoteEarly

which is my point. but surely there must be some kind of pleasure involved, i'm sorry, maybe it's the meds talkin, but i find it difficult to believe that they would have copulate without intent to procreate if it did not give them some kind of pleasure.
I understand what you mean, but what if there is social advantage? Some people find it hard to believe that life could have a common ancestor, but that doesn't mean it's untrue.

I understand what you mean, but what if there is social advantage? Some people find it hard to believe that life could have a common ancestor, but that doesn't mean it's untrue.
touche. i'm just having trouble wrapping my head around what the advantage could be. grooming has a very practical purpose, as well as it's social qualities. does the bonobo experience a release of endorphins? anything?

i bumped the poop out of this bitch.

Close. But I don't want to blow his cover. Besides, JS is catholic, I don't think they like each other.
So is Hitler apparently.

5 minutes later if you like, it doesn't matter. Date as many women as you like one at a time or all at once. As long as you're honest, most women don't get upset about it. As a matter of fact, it usually makes them want you more. It means that you have a high value, because everyone wants a piece of you, therefore there must be something REALLY worth having.

You'll have to date a lot of women in order to find one that you REALLY like. There are lots of different kinds of women out there, and chances are that you'll only REALLY have chemistry with about 10% of them. You can have fun with all of them, but there are only a few that you could realistically spend a lifetime with.
That would make me a Slut and surely insult/deminish the feelings i have for people.

It means that you have a high value, because everyone wants a piece of you, therefore there must be something REALLY worth having.


So my value is zero or am i depreciating?

God will damn to hell any who commit unacceptable sexual practices (adultery, homosexuality, bestiality, etc)

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since hell doesn't actually exist i can't see it being a problem for me, being a woman who's had more than the one partner. and still not married!

Many times women look for a man who treats them the same way their father did, as most girls love their fathers and in doing so intertwine their fathers' charactaristics with characterisitics that they love.

Girls with strict, asshole fathers are attracted to assholes.
Girls with fathers who spoil them are attracted to men who spoil them, etc etc.

It may well be the same with men and their mothers, however I suspect men are far less fickle than women in accepting mates.

Which said, the answer to problems with women is to work out and make your body sexually attractive.

Honest question to men: what are the chances of turning down a relationship with a really stunning looking girl?

Many times women look for a man who treats them the same way their father did, as most girls love their fathers and in doing so intertwine their fathers' charactaristics with characterisitics that they love.

Girls with strict, asshole fathers are attracted to assholes.
Girls with fathers who spoil them are attracted to men who spoil them, etc etc.

It may well be the same with men and their mothers, however I suspect men are far less fickle than women in accepting mates.

Which said, the answer to problems with women is to work out and make your body sexually attractive.

Honest question to men: what are the chances of turning down a relationship with a really stunning looking girl?
Well, before I found ym wife I would have said yes to any hot person, guy girl, any age, didn't matter.

That would make me a Slut and surely insult/deminish the feelings i have for people.
"Slut" is a self inflicted situation. Unless you're sleeping with everyone in sight, constantly, I don't think anyone would call you a slut. Those that do are usually just jealous and/or sexuall repressed. I blow them off, because I don't hang around people like that. I like being around people that don't have any hang ups.

So my value is zero or am i depreciating?
Your social value is what you believe it to be. That's the great thing about having social value, you can change it in your favor. All you need to do is focus on getting rid of your insecurities and building on your self confidence. Watch people that have high social value. Look at their body language more then anything else. How do they walk? How do they sit or stand? Do they make eye contact with those around them? Do they figget? Do their eyes dart around quickly? Do they have any nervous itches?

If you want the embodiment of what I'm talking about, study a few James Bond movies. Study his body language very carefully. What comes out of his mouth doesn't mean much. He can say ANYTHING he wants, because he backs it up everything complete confidence. He can walk up to a woman and use the worst and most tired pick up lines, because the words he's saying don't matter. What matters is his body language.

Your social value is what you believe it to be. That's the great thing about having social value, you can change it in your favor. All you need to do is focus on getting rid of your insecurities and building on your self confidence. Watch people that have high social value. Look at their body language more then anything else. How do they walk? How do they sit or stand? Do they make eye contact with those around them? Do they figget? Do their eyes dart around quickly? Do they have any nervous itches?

If you want the embodiment of what I'm talking about, study a few James Bond movies. Study his body language very carefully. What comes out of his mouth doesn't mean much. He can say ANYTHING he wants, because he backs it up everything complete confidence. He can walk up to a woman and use the worst and most tired pick up lines, because the words he's saying don't matter. What matters is his body language.
Ah so my social value is Zero. ;) :(

Because that woman could have STD's, and it turns sex into a casual thing, which it isn't.
So could a women who wasnt promiscuous (have STD's), is the disrespect stemming from the possibility of STD's or from them actually having them, and why is someone's health status a reason to not respect them.
Either sex is or isnt something that can be casually done, and either a person does or does not engage in casual sex. Sex cant be turned into something it is not, sex is sex, what one person does sexually doesnt change what sex is or isnt for some other person not a party to their actions...

Why are you not disgusted? Why can't I be disgusted if I want to be disgusted?
Why would I be disgusted, you can be disgusted with anything you choose to be disgusted with, I simply was curious to know this particular thing is to you disgusting.

You liberals are the "To each his own type."
Who says I am a liberal?

Why then can't I react in a manner that I want to react in and be disgusted.
Whatever makes you think I am suggesting you cant?

I don't like the idea that sex can be a casual thing and mean nothing. I don't want meaningless lustful sex, I want more than that. Indeed if I had to pick between sex and just an emotional relationship, I'd go for the latter.
Well I dont like pumpkin, but I dont find it disgusting that people eat pumpkin.

Although both combined, is the ideal, most today, sadly, go for the first option, just sex. And that sickens and disgusts me.
I still am non-the-wiser as to why it sickens and disgusts you...

I think of a slut as being someone who has indiscriminate sex. I've had sex just for fun, with no relationship expected, but it's hardly indiscriminate. I'm fairly picky. But recreational sex is great.

I think of a slut as being someone who has indiscriminate sex. I've had sex just for fun, with no relationship expected, but it's hardly indiscriminate. I'm fairly picky. But recreational sex is great.
Your right im just BLAH. :(

I feel I'm in the same boat as many of you. I've never had many girlfriends, and I'm not an unattractive guy (so I'm told). It's just apparently I'm a "great friend" and all that kind of crap. I don't really know what would be a bad boy either; I think it's beyond me. Even girls when the yfind out I was in the service, it doesn't particularly make a dent on them. But I will say, the uniform did really help pick up chicks back home. :D