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Not good.... I bet most of those 53% born in latin America are illegals. They should be kicked out and sent back to mexico.

To respond to some people, and a point that keeps being raised, I'll say this: I don't care what race an immigrant is, if they're an Illegal, they shouldn't be here, no matter what their race is. If they're legal, I don't have a problem.

~Represent

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Why?

Not good.... I bet most of those 53% born in latin America are illegals. They should be kicked out and sent back to mexico
Latin America =/= Mexico.

Christ on a crutch! America hasn't seen this sort of major influx of dirty furriners since, gee, the Mayflower.

Since all but about 1% of the US population are decended from immigrants, I can see what your problem is

Let's face it, in the US we're all "foreign-born" if you trace the lineages back far enough. :D

Christ on a crutch! America hasn't seen this sort of major influx of dirty furriners since, gee, the Mayflower.
Haahaaaa!

We are all immigrants my friend...even half of me comes from good, immigrant (Irish) stock....

Um, OK. U.S. foreign-born population is more than 34 million. 53% of them are from Latin America. And I assume you're looking for a repsonse. Um, how 'bout "Hooray for immigration!" How's that?

Let's face it, in the US we're all "foreign-born" if you trace the lineages back far enough. :D
Speak for yourself, 'pale-face' (so kidding...):). Wait...I'm half foreign-born...would you just send me back to Ireland for 6 months? I'm confused...

We are all immigrants my friend...even half of me comes from good, immigrant (Irish) stock....

Yeah, good Irish stock, whatever. I guess it's better than Eye-talian, for whatever that's worth.

I dont know why people have a problem with emigration, imegrants bring usefull trades and jobs.They also provide lots of unskiled labour the only reason you would be against it is beacause an imegrant will do your job for cheaper and quite possibly better. anyways by your logic 90%+ of our population should be deorted to alll corners of the world till only abariginals are left.

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Not good.... I bet most of those 53% born in latin America are illegals. They should be kicked out and sent back to mexico
well, unless youre pure bred native, i guess youll be volunteering to leave first?

after all, we wouldnt want hypocricy would we?

I dont know why people have a problem with emigration, imegrants bring usefull trades and jobs.They also provide lots of unskiled labour the only reason you would be against it is beacause an imegrant will do your job for cheaper and quite possibly better.

This arguement won't work on Kahta since he doesn't have a job.

Let's face it, in the US we're all "foreign-born" if you trace the lineages back far enough. :D

I only have to trace my lineage back 56 years. I wonder if Kahta would like to exume my grandmother and grandfather and send them back to Italy.

Yeah! Let's send them back to where they belong! Keep only the native born peoples of this great land of ours! Those damned imigrants are poisoning the gene pool! (Sarcasm/)

Honestly...What makes the USA great is the diversity! In the end, we're all imigrants.

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Not good.... I bet most of those 53% born in latin America are illegals. They should be kicked out and sent back to mexico
And when the next generation is born they will be born in America and no longer be foreign born ... is it not beautiful how that works

In 20 years Europe will be 40% Muslim! :eek:

In 20 years Europe will be 40% Muslim! :eek:



I don't know how I feel about this. Are these muslims going to be brown people (Osama) or pale people (Cat Stevens)?

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Hmm the dutch. spanish and french were here in north america before your ancestors im betting, scumbag

In 20 years Europe will be 40% Muslim! :eek:


:rolleyes:

Yeah, good Irish stock, whatever. I guess it's better than Eye-talian, for whatever that's worth.
How about french, german, finnish, swedish, scottish, welsh, irish, and assorted eastern european nations, half of which don't exist anymore?

Score one for immigration. w00t w00t.

How about french, german, finnish, swedish, scottish, welsh, irish, and assorted eastern european nations, half of which don't exist anymore?

Oh. You took that seriously. I was just hankering for the good old days when Micks and Guineas were second-class citizens, you know, back when racism used to be funny. What? You mean it wasn't ever funny?

Well, I guess it used to be more even-handed anyway, what with all immigrants being picked on instead of just the brown ones or the Latin ones.

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This country is for whites, since we founded the USA and built it up, but the enemies of the race will claim, "We're a nation of immigrants, of foreigners, blah, blah, blah."

We're a nation of certain types of immigrants (white immigrants)

We actually had laws since the 1780s dictating who could and who couldn't become a citizen.

Score one for immigration. w00t w00t.

Score one for any actual illegal immigrants that have demonstrated by their actions that are prepared to make an effort to be Americans, only to find themselves demonised by those who need make no effort.

This country is for whites, since we founded the USA and built it up, but the enemies of the race will claim, "We're a nation of immigrants, of foreigners, blah, blah, blah."

We're a nation of certain types of immigrants (white immigrants)

We actually had laws since the 1780s dictating who could and who couldn't become a citizen.
Just because we fucked and swarmed like rabbits does not mean we were the sol creators … hell look at all the Chinese did for both the interstate system and the intercontinental railroad . Not t mention the great contributions everyone all around has made … we wouldn’t be half as strong as we are now if we did not at least borrow idea’s from other cultures

This country is for whites, since we founded the USA and built it up, but the enemies of the race will claim, "We're a nation of immigrants, of foreigners, blah, blah, blah."

By this logic this site is a site for Australian white males. Do you fit that category?

This country is for whites, since we founded the USA and built it up, but the enemies of the race will claim, "We're a nation of immigrants, of foreigners, blah, blah, blah."

We're a nation of certain types of immigrants (white immigrants)

We actually had laws since the 1780s dictating who could and who couldn't become a citizen.

Ah, VoteEarly! Did you lay a little of that logic on your prof?

Inquiring minds want to know--How went the conference?

By this logic this site is a site for Australian white males. Do you fit that category?


I don't see any laws written into this site proclaiming that.

We had a Naturalization Act of 1790, and then various "Exclusion Acts" throughout the 1800s.

Inquiring minds want to know--How went the conference?


Fine, he told me from what he's concluded about me from my engaging class discussions and my attentiveness, and my previous papers, I can get an A and he wants me to revise and back up the stuff with more supports and iron it out, so he can give me an A. He said he wants me to get an A, rather than the C+ B- he'd have to give it as it is. He told me to take as long as I want and then hand it back in to get my A.

Fine, he told me from what he's concluded about me from my engaging class discussions and my attentiveness, and my previous papers, I can get an A and he wants me to revise and back up the stuff with more supports and iron it out, so he can give me an A. He said he wants me to get an A, rather than the C+ B- he'd have to give it as it is. He told me to take as long as I want and then hand it back in to get my A.
And here you went off on “discrimination” :p

And here you went off on “discrimination” :p


Okay, so I'm paranoid, I admit, I was wrong this time...

I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong.

We had a Naturalization Act of 1790, and then various "Exclusion Acts" throughout the 1800s.

Keyword: 'had'.

Okay, so I'm paranoid, I admit, I was wrong this time...

I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong.
Fair enough (though wouldent really blame you if you did have a little trouble admiting it ... something we all do from time to time)

We also had slavery and property requirements for the vote. That doesn't mean we're still a slaveholding oligarcy.

I don't see any laws written into this site proclaiming that.

We had a Naturalization Act of 1790, and then various "Exclusion Acts" throughout the 1800s.

So, I don't see any such Acts today. And I bet the 37 million is a low figure, since a lot of us intermarried over the past century. Add to that the illegal immigrants who don't answer the door when the people doing the survey come by....

I personally love the fact that the US has no legal definition for racial categories. I have put "White", "Asian-Pacific Islander", "Black", "Native American", and "Other" on government forms, depending on my mood, and which ancestor I feel like representing that day.

Oh. You took that seriously. I was just hankering for the good old days when Micks and Guineas were second-class citizens, you know, back when racism used to be funny. What? You mean it wasn't ever funny?

Well, I guess it used to be more even-handed anyway, what with all immigrants being picked on instead of just the brown ones or the Latin ones.
I didn't think you were being serious. I was just pointing out the multitude of places my ancestors came from, and they all went to the u.s., and after many generations on some branches of my family tree and a few in others my parents came to canada and such.

We also had slavery and property requirements for the vote. That doesn't mean we're still a slaveholding oligarcy.
Nor a host of silly laws that no one would follow anymore (look up blue laws) lol

Or come to think of it we had laws against alcohol (prohibition) did it make that right? If so why don’t we follow it anymore

So, I don't see any such Acts today

They must all have been eroded by the creeping forces of 'multiculturalism' that introduced the 1870 reform of the Naturalization Act so as to open US citizenship to 'white persons and persons of African descent', no doubt.

It must have been the creeping forces of 'multiculturalism' that introduced the 1870 reform of the Naturalization Act so as to open US citizenship to 'white persons and persons of African descent', no doubt.


I thought it was the slippery slope of the Emancipation Proclamation.

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Not good.... I bet most of those 53% born in latin America are illegals. They should be kicked out and sent back to mexico


Hey...arent you the one who goes to the mod forum and tattle tales when someone is flaming or flame baiting or whatever?? Thats what I think this is.....can you say hypocrite? Are you a racist?

Hey...arent you the one who goes to the mod forum and tattle tales when someone is flaming or flame baiting or whatever?? Thats what I think this is.....can you say hypocrite? Are you a racist?
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Good idea.

:fluffle:

I don't know how I feel about this. Are these muslims going to be brown people (Osama) or pale people (Cat Stevens)?
Well, that's some serious demonisation you can do there, but yes they would mostly be brown people from the ME. Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam was just a white guy that converted.

This country is for whites, since we founded the USA and built it up, but the enemies of the race will claim, "We're a nation of immigrants, of foreigners, blah, blah, blah."
What about all those black slaves who helped build your country?

The Natives that lived there in the first place?

Hey...arent you the one who goes to the mod forum and tattle tales when someone is flaming or flame baiting or whatever?? Thats what I think this is.....can you say hypocrite? Are you a racist?
I don't agree with his views, but being anti-immigration is not the same as being racist.

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:


Well he sounds like he has a problem with Mexicans. He doesnt even wanna go there with me. I assure you....

So why don't we just absorb mexico into the US as a bunch of new states :gundge: and then they won't be illegal anymore!!

We actually had laws since the 1780s dictating who could and who couldn't become a citizen.
And since when does a law, set up by white land-robbers to protect them from other land-robbers, written in times where neither american natives nor africans were even recognized as homo sapiens, say anything about modern times?
If you steal something and than legislate it is yours you are still a thief.
But maybe driving off the original population by force and slaughter is the good way and peacefull immigration is evil, huh?

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Not good.... I bet most of those 53% born in latin America are illegals. They should be kicked out and sent back to mexico

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/31/illegal.immigration/

Saturday, February 1, 2003

More than a million illegal immigrants have slipped into the United States in the past few years, raising the total in the country to 7 million, the Immigration and Naturalization Service said Friday."

53% of 34,000,000 = 18,020,000 total latin american immigrants.

'most' of them would be 9,020,000.

Are you claiming that 2,000,000 people, all of them latin american, slipped into the USA since Feb 2003, and that there are no illegal immigrants belonging to any other racial/cultural groupings? Or are you claiming that you have a better source of data than the Immigration and Naturalization Service?

And here you went off on “discrimination” :p
Since I can't reply directly...LOL!

Well he sounds like he has a problem with Mexicans. He doesnt even wanna go there with me. I assure you....
Ill go anywhere with you ;) :fluffle:

god damn i hate hippies....
hippie :) me :sniper:

me making out with your girlfriend :fluffle:

Just because we fucked and swarmed like rabbits does not mean we were the sol creators … hell look at all the Chinese did for both the interstate system and the intercontinental railroad . Not t mention the great contributions everyone all around has made … we wouldn’t be half as strong as we are now if we did not at least borrow idea’s from other cultures

Bah! This country'd be in a hell of a lot better shape if we hadn't gone importing fancy schmancy foreign ideas like French philosphers' ideas about democracy or England's namby pamby steam engine. If we'd done without them we'd probably have invented the silicone computer chip in 1800 under the benevolent dictatorship of John Adams.

America only gets into trouble when we go thinking that other countries have anything to offer. As Terry Pratchett put it "they have nothing we want, we have nothing they can afford."

Bah! This country'd be in a hell of a lot better shape if we hadn't gone importing fancy schmancy foreign ideas like French philosphers' ideas about democracy or England's namby pamby steam engine. If we'd done without them we'd probably have invented the silicone computer chip in 1800 under the benevolent dictatorship of John Adams.

America only gets into trouble when we go thinking that other countries have anything to offer. As Terry Pratchett put it "they have nothing we want, we have nothing they can afford."
So sarcastic it hurts :D

Is it a racist thread if you begin with real statistics, then ignore the statistics in favor of speculation and conclude by telling the immigrants to go back to a country they may or may not be from? My spider sense says yes.

You could take the same line and apply it to the yellow scare of the early century: "I bet all them Asians are illegals. They should go back to China."

This isn't a reasonable discussion on immigration, this is simply spilling nasty preconceptions about Hispanics. Really. A bigot is a bigot.

Are Kahta and VoteEarly the same person?

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Not good.... I bet most of those 53% born in latin America are illegals. They should be kicked out and sent back to mexico

But what percentage of the population are self-important whiny white rich kids?

Incontrovertible evidence points to the fact that the number of foreigners on the planet is increasing at an alarming rate. :eek:


For my part, I'm always perplexed to see how present conventional wisdom seems to take cross-border freedom of movement for granted when it's for capital and commodities, while the workforce is expected to sit still wherever it is. And somehow our ruling classes go on talking with a straight face about free market economies...

But what percentage of the population are self-important whiny white rich kids?


What percentage of the population is Elect?

I'm neither whiny, nor am I rich, I'm upper-middle/low-upper. I'm not a kid either, nor am I self-important.

What percentage of the population is Elect?

I'm neither whiny, nor am I rich, I'm upper-middle/low-upper. I'm not a kid either, nor am I self-important.

Hmm. Elect? Now that's funny.

So, what is the scientific (genetic) and legal (under US law) definition of "Elect"?

Are Kahta and VoteEarly the same person?
I rather doubt it.

This is a horrific occurrence... Such terrible immigration must be stopped now...

Because we all know that people with different skin color are by nature evil!

This is a horrific occurrence... Such terrible immigration must be stopped now...

Too late. My father already arrived in the US in the 1950s, and he married a "white woman" and here I am.

Whoa Nellie!

Are Kahta and VoteEarly the same person?

No apparently not. The snazzy new Political Compass that Swimming Pool posted up even (quite surprisingly) shows Kahta to not only be left of VoteEarly, but also left-of-centre - not that this is sufficient evidence in itslef, but it reinforces the standard answer to this oft-asked question.

Too late. My father already arrived in the US in the 1950s, and he married a "white woman" and here I am.

Whoa Nellie!
Arrived from where?

Arrived from where?

Why does that matter?

This country is for whites, since we founded the USA and built it up, but the enemies of the race will claim, "We're a nation of immigrants, of foreigners, blah, blah, blah."

We're a nation of certain types of immigrants (white immigrants)

We actually had laws since the 1780s dictating who could and who couldn't become a citizen.

Too bad for intolerant people THEY CHANGED.

Arrived from where?
Um, is that a question you really don't know the answer to? This could get a little yucky...please WL, don't be too graphic...

Arrived from where?

Korea!

But then, this supposed "white woman" had some "black" in her ancestry (from the period immediately after the Civil War - seems a member of the 54th North Carolina took up with a black woman when he came home from the War).

Also, in the late 1870s, his son married into a family of Jews that had emigrated to Spartanburg, South Carolina.

It gets better!

Korea!

But then, this supposed "white woman" had some "black" in her ancestry (from the period immediately after the Civil War - seems a member of the 54th North Carolina took up with a black woman when he came home from the War).

Also, in the late 1870s, his son married into a family of Jews that had emigrated to Spartanburg, South Carolina.

It gets better!
Whew...I thought you were going to get all biological...

Bah! This country'd be in a hell of a lot better shape if we hadn't gone importing fancy schmancy foreign ideas like French philosphers' ideas about democracy or England's namby pamby steam engine. If we'd done without them we'd probably have invented the silicone computer chip in 1800 under the benevolent dictatorship of John Adams.

America only gets into trouble when we go thinking that other countries have anything to offer. As Terry Pratchett put it "they have nothing we want, we have nothing they can afford."


America is the country which invented 75% of the imporant achievements of the modern times... microchip, computer, TV, electricity, telephone, radio, internal combustion engine, cotton gin....

Whew...I thought you were going to get all biological...

Well, there is the story of how my father met my mother on a choir tour...

Hmm. Elect? Now that's funny.

So, what is the scientific (genetic) and legal (under US law) definition of "Elect"?


Elect is somene that is predestined to heaven.

Why does that matter?
Only 14% of the "foreign-born" American population is "from Europe." Who knows how many are actually European? :(

America is the country which invented 75% of the imporant achievements of the modern times... microchip, computer, TV, electricity, telephone, radio, internal combustion engine, cotton gin....
You don't think that was just all the white folk's work do you? What about all the work the white folk were freed up from doing by their hardworking black slaves? What about those wonderful railway lines, bought with Asian blood? Who are you going to oppress if not the other races?

Elect is somene that is predestined to heaven.
How many are Elect? Is this a Chrisitan only heaven? Are there different heavens, depending on your religion? Muslims think they are going to heaven too...how do you know they aren't right? Isn't this something you can't really know until you die? What is your heaven includes Muslims, and you can't get away...would that really be hell?

Elect is somene that is predestined to heaven.

So if I'm predestined to go to Heaven, and I'm a member of the Elect, I can go murder someone and it's ok?

America is the country which invented 75% of the imporant achievements of the modern times... microchip, computer, TV, electricity, telephone, radio, internal combustion engine, cotton gin....

Internal combustion engine - Switzerland.
Radio - Italy.
Computer - UK.
Microchip - UK. Clicky. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/403690.stm)
Electricity? Natural phenomenon.

Only 14% of the "foreign-born" American population is "from Europe." Who knows how many are actually European? :(
Then maybe you should move to Canada...or Greenland...we're still pretty European in background up here...

Then again, we already have plenty of our own homebred racists...

A question...since we natives were here first, are we a group you guys would be okay with staying here, since we don't really have anywhere else to go to...having originated on this land?

so Katha are you flaimbaiting because you really believe this nonsense or because you like to rile people up.

You can't be older than 10 or 11.

Internal combustion engine - Switzerland.
Radio - Italy.
Computer - UK.
Electricity? Natural phenomenon.
HAHAHAAHA! That's actually true...how we harness it is of course the thing to be invented...

I never thought of it that way:)

Then maybe you should move to Canada...or Greenland...we're still pretty European in background up here...

Then again, we already have plenty of our own homebred racists...

A question...since we natives were here first, are we a group you guys would be okay with staying here, since we don't really have anywhere else to go to...having originated on this land?
Canada is just as communistic.

Canada is just as communistic.
You are saying that our democratic, blended system is communism? Weird definition.

But I have to ask you...wouldn't you prefer a mostly white, communistic nation to a minority white...whatever-the-heck-you-think-the-US-is nation? You didn't mention Greenland by the way...what about them?

Oh yeah...and please get back to me on the native question. I need to know if I should pack or not...

HAHAHAAHA! That's actually true...how we harness it is of course the thing to be invented...

I never thought of it that way:)

Just like how Isaac Newton invented gravity...

If we want to argue about immigration to the North American continent, we should get a Native American (you know, one of the aboriginal people) and ask them how many immigrants they've seen, and if they believe immigration to have been a problem.

America is the country which invented 75% of the imporant achievements of the modern times... microchip, computer, TV, electricity, telephone, radio, internal combustion engine, cotton gin....

Sorry, that's flat out incorrect information.

The first petrol engines were British. French had the steam. Turing and Babbage were Brits. The telephone goes to Graham Bell, an immigrant. Marconi, an Italian, invented the radio. Only grade school history books credit Franklin with discovering electricity. The Leyden Jar was first, in the Netherlands. Add to this the fact that so many prominent scientists are immigrants (guys like Einstein and Fermi spring to mind), and you've got a pretty shaky foundation.

America is the country which invented 75% of the imporant achievements of the modern times... microchip, computer, TV, electricity, telephone, radio, internal combustion engine, cotton gin....

Ahem...American, British, British, British, (you cannot invent electricity, but Faraday discovered its properties and control as I recall), British, German (Karz Benz IIRC), probably British or Empire.

Edit: A few corrections necessary but can't be bothered adding them; your point is still nonexistent.

You are saying that our democratic, blended system is communism? Weird definition.

But I have to ask you...wouldn't you prefer a mostly white, communistic nation to a minority white...whatever-the-heck-you-think-the-US-is nation? You didn't mention Greenland by the way...what about them?
I)Canada is communist.

II)Same thing as Canada, just moving more slowly toward destruction

Ahem...American, British, British, British, (you cannot invent electricity, but Faraday discovered its properties and control as I recall), British, German (Karz Benz IIRC), probably British or Empire.
Internal combustion engine - Switzerland.
Radio - Italy.
Computer - UK.
Microchip - UK. Clicky. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/403690.stm)
Electricity? Natural phenomenon.
.

Ahem...American, British, British, British, (you cannot invent electricity, but Faraday discovered its properties and control as I recall), British, German (Karz Benz IIRC), probably British or Empire.

Edit: A few corrections necessary but can't be bothered adding them; your point is still nonexistent.

Check my link here on a possible invention of the microchip which predates the Texas Instruments one:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/403690.stm


I think we can give the cotton gin to the Americans though.

Ooh, ta! Never knew that...:)

I)Canada is communist.
You have a very interesting definition of "communist".
II)Same thing as Canada, just moving more slowly toward destruction
I believe she asked you which you would prefer. Perhaps you could answer the question?

You have a very interesting definition of "communist".

I believe she asked you which you would prefer. Perhaps you could answer the question?
If I must, I would if the Mohammedans began to revolt, for example. Otherwise, it would be akin to abandoning ship.

Sorry, that's flat out incorrect information.

The first petrol engines were British. French had the steam.

And the Swiss (always a law unto themselves) had a IC engine powered by oxygen and hydrogen.

Ooh, ta! Never knew that...:)

A similar thing happened with public key cryptography apparently - a chap at GCHQ in the seventies, but the Official Secrets Act prevented him from even talking about it until a few years ago.

Ug. We seem to be rather good at inventing useful items, then allowing them to fall by the wayside for someone else to pick up and profit from them.

And the Swiss (always a law unto themselves) had a IC engine powered by oxygen and hydrogen.

I'm not splitting hairs. The key point is just that America didn't invent 75% of all good stuff. Or for that matter, anything on that list except the cotton gin.

And you know why America invented the cotton gin? Cause we were the only country with enough slaves to crank the damn things.

And the Swiss (always a law unto themselves) had a IC engine powered by oxygen and hydrogen.
really?

tell them to dust it off and bring it back out again, hydrogen engine are the future

Ug. We seem to be rather good at inventing useful items, then allowing them to fall by the wayside for someone else to pick up and profit from them.

Yeah - just look at concentration camps: we invented them back in Victorian times, but left it up to other countries to see their full potential.

I thought it was proven that Nikoli Tesla really invented the first radio

I'm not splitting hairs. The key point is just that America didn't invent 75% of all good stuff. Or for that matter, anything on that list except the cotton gin.


No, no, I'm just shining a light on an interesting historical sidenote.

You don't think that was just all the white folk's work do you? What about all the work the white folk were freed up from doing by their hardworking black slaves? What about those wonderful railway lines, bought with Asian blood? Who are you going to oppress if not the other races?

Only 1/3 of southerners owned slaves, and 90% of slaves were owned by 1% of the southern population.

Those railway lines were of awful quality, and most had to be shut down after they were opened because they were literally falling apart. The Asians did it because they undercut the Americans.

Just like how Isaac Newton invented gravity...

*Flashbacks to listening to Mark Steel on the radio*

Probably the only person to get but meh...

Those railway lines were of awful quality, and most had to be shut down after they were opened because they were literally falling apart. The Asians did it because they undercut the Americans.

Do you have a reference for that?

I thought it was proven that Nikoli Tesla really invented the first radio

Again, disputed, but either way, Tesla + Marconi = an Italian and an immigrant.

Again, disputed, but either way, Tesla + Marconi = an Italian and an immigrant.

It goes without saying that with the exception of the original Native Americans, everyone else who came here was thrown out of every decent country in the world.

I)Canada is communist.


Hmmm, funny, last time I checked we were a democracy. Even Bush calls us that. But I guess if you say it, it makes it so. :rolleyes:

*Flashbacks to listening to Mark Steel on the radio*

Probably the only person to get but meh...

Indeed. I know of what you speak.

And what did the Vikings come in, class?

Ships?

No.

Boats, miss?

No. We did this last week.

Longships?

No, the Vikings came in hordes.

It goes without saying that with the exception of the original Native Americans, everyone else who came here was thrown out of every decent country in the world.
Yeah, none of them are adressing that obvious point...even though I've asked them about it a couple of times. I think they'll just end up saying that God wanted the land for them, not us, and since we weren't 'using' the land properly, it's okay for them to kick us off it.

Yeah, none of them are adressing that obvious point...even though I've asked them about it a couple of times. I think they'll just end up saying that God wanted the land for them, not us, and since we weren't 'using' the land properly, it's okay for them to kick us off it.

So, tell us. What's the perspective (and the total count) on illegal immigrants to the North American continent, from the Native American (or aboriginal) perspective?

I bet the totals are very different.

Do you have a reference for that?


Yes, my AP textbook. I will quote it: "The railways were built of such poor quality that many bridges could not even hold a locomotive, and many had to be rebuilt once the railroad was completed"

Nah. I know of what you speak.

And what did the Vikings come in, class?

Ships?

No.

Boats, miss?

No. We did this last week.

Longships?

No, the Vikings came in hordes.

Yay :D

Possibly one of the few things I hope for in this life, that he will do another series on the radio.

Yeah. And all the Europeans need to go back to France.

Not good (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-02/23/content_2606376.htm)

Not good.... I bet most of those 53% born in latin America are illegals. They should be kicked out and sent back to mexico.

To respond to some people, and a point that keeps being raised, I'll say this: I don't care what race an immigrant is, if they're an Illegal, they shouldn't be here, no matter what their race is. If they're legal, I don't have a problem.

Whilst i think what you say is utter bull I can see where you are coming from :P At least you support legal immigration. The problem is that near enough no immigration into the US is legal. Hell, we in Britain have to go to the god damned American Embassy in London in order to get permission to even take a holiday there!!!

I would also point out that pretty much the entire American population is derived from immigrants.

Your country needs fresh immigrants to boost your economy. You will find that most of the immigrants are hard working people with a work ethic, unlike the highly obese burger eating idle, good for nothings that make up the majority of your population.

so Katha are you flaimbaiting because you really believe this nonsense or because you like to rile people up.

You can't be older than 10 or 11.

I'm talking about my views, ones that I have made by looking at information, and thinking about it, and forming my own conclusions, something that many people fail to do, and they just listen to their marxist indoctrination at school and think that everyone is equal, regardless of race, income, sex, or class.

I'm 16, turning on 17 at my next birthday.

Yay :D

Possibly one of the few things I hope for in this life, that he will do another series on the radio.

Just so long as it is another series of the Lectures and not the well intentioned but frankly piss-poor Solution that came before it.

To respond to some people, and a point that keeps being raised, I'll say this: I don't care what race an immigrant is, if they're an Illegal, they shouldn't be here, no matter what their race is. If they're legal, I don't have a problem.
So it's ONLY the illegals you have a problem with? All the coloured folks can come in...as long as they're legal? Somehow I doubt you'd still be okay with that, judging from other posts you've made.

In any case...we natives never issued your people Visas or Green Cards to come here...when did illegal immigration start being a bad thing in your books?

Yes, my AP textbook. I will quote it: "The railways were built of such poor quality that many bridges could not even hold a locomotive, and many had to be rebuilt once the railroad was completed"

ISBN Number?

Hmmm, funny, last time I checked we were a democracy. Even Bush calls us that. But I guess if you say it, it makes it so. :rolleyes:
Of course Bush would.

Yeah. And all the Europeans need to go back to France.
I can think of worse things to have to do.

Yes, my AP textbook.

What does AP stand for, out of interest?

Just so long as it is another series of the Lectures and not the well intentioned but frankly piss-poor Solution that came before it.

It had its moments.

But yeah, the Lectures are far better then the Solutions

I'm talking about my views, ones that I have made by looking at information, and thinking about it, and forming my own conclusions, something that many people fail to do, and they just listen to their marxist indoctrination at school and think that everyone is equal, regardless of race, income, sex, or class.

So, would you agree to a relaxation in immigration policies to allow more people to get into the USA legally?

Because right now they're very strict, leaving people with little choice.

So, tell us. What's the perspective (and the total count) on illegal immigrants to the North American continent, from the Native American (or aboriginal) perspective?

I bet the totals are very different.
Well, the totals of natives in North America were anywhere between 1.8 million to 12 million...it's hard to say, because we didn't bother holding a census:) However, our numbers in North America were reduced to about 250,000 in the four centuries after contact. I'd say, illegal immigrants to our nations were a serious detriment, and much more dangerous to us than your present day illegal immigrants...who do not bring disease, war and slaughter to these shores.

And yet I am very pro immigration, legal or not. Something about what goes around, comes around...

No, not really, I just think, the more the merrier!

Bush says we are a democracy? I thought we were a Republic?

Your country needs fresh immigrants to boost your economy. You will find that most of the immigrants are hard working people with a work ethic, unlike the highly obese burger eating idle, good for nothings that make up the majority of your population.


Our country needs jobs, not more people to strain the hard-pressed job market.

You're the sort who would say Germany needs more immigrants...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=464620

ISBN Number?

0-13-090756-1
Its called: "The American Journey: A history of the united states" Its the second edition.

Yes, my AP textbook. I will quote it: "The railways were built of such poor quality that many bridges could not even hold a locomotive, and many had to be rebuilt once the railroad was completed"
Sorry, for those of us not familiar with this text...is that the Aryan Pride textbook, by any chance?

To respond to some people, and a point that keeps being raised, I'll say this: I don't care what race an immigrant is, if they're an Illegal, they shouldn't be here, no matter what their race is. If they're legal, I don't have a problem.

No, you see, that's not what you said. You titled your link "Not good," then you specifically picked out Latin Americans as probably being illegal and suggested that they "be sent back to Mexico."

That's not welcoming immigrants and that's not being indifferent to their race. That's selecting Hispanics because of stereotypes about where the illegals come from. Moreover, this other business about "coming to your own conclusions about whether or not folks are equal" (paraphrase), smacks of the "reasonable racist." It's the "Bell Curve" mentality that justifies all sorts of old and deeply-held discrimination through the "scientific" lens of bad data and fudged figures. A pattern that you duplicate here by using a legitimate article to set up your ugly little generalization.

So, would you agree to a relaxation in immigration policies to allow more people to get into the USA legally?

Because right now they're very strict, leaving people with little choice.

Any immigration policy which allows non-whites to flood or even slowly trickle over time, into the USA, is wrong and unacceptable.

Ethnology and Eugenics ought to be at the heart of our consideration for immigration law.

Bush says we are a democracy? I thought we were a Republic?
Canada. We're talking about Canada.

It doesn't matter what the JSA government says. White immigrants are legal; non-Whites are not.

So, would you agree to a relaxation in immigration policies to allow more people to get into the USA legally?

Because right now they're very strict, leaving people with little choice.


We don't need more immigrants here, 300 million people is enough, there are already a number of places in this country that are unsustainable to live in, such as most of the southwest. Water is being used up at 20 times the rate its being replenished.

Sorry, for those of us not familiar with this text...is that the Aryan Pride textbook, by any chance?

No, Advanced Placement US History. Its a college level class, being taught to HS juniors.

It doesn't matter what the JSA government says. White immigrants are legal; non-Whites are not.
Uh-oh Kahta...your allies are abandoning your edited 'reasonable' position and falling back on the WHITE ONLY argument....

Again, Servus Dei...what about we, the original, non-white inhabitant of this land you immigrated illegaly to?

Again, Servus Dei...what about we, the original, non-white inhabitant of this land you immigrated illegaly to?
You?! There was nothing here but a bunch of Reds in a blood cult until Whites arrived.

No, you see, that's not what you said. You titled your link "Bad News," then you specifically picked out Latin Americans as probably being illegal and suggested that they "be sent back to Mexico."

That's not welcoming immigrants and that's not being indifferent to their race. That's selecting Hispanics because of stereotypes about where the illegals come from. Moreover, this other business about "coming to your own conclusions about whether or not folks are equal" (paraphrase), smacks of the "reasonable racist." It's the "Bell Curve" mentality that justifies all sorts of old and deeply-held discrimination through the lens of bad data and fudged figures. A pattern that you duplicate here by using a legitimate article to set up your ugly little generalization.


Thats because they create the most problems in this country, most of them ARE illegal, 1 million cross the border every year. A local city, known as "The Ghetto" is 60% hispanic, there are massive gang problems, and crime. I know you're going to point out the one shining example of a good hispanic, but for every good one in the US, there are 9 bad ones.

Canada. We're talking about Canada.

My bad this thread is lowering my iq. :confused: :(

Bush says we are a democracy? I thought we were a Republic?

We are a Republic.

You?! There was nothing here but a bunch of Reds in a blood cult until Whites arrived.

Care to source that claim?

I am just glad that people like Katha and Servus Die are the minority. And getting more minor as time goes on *party* :p :fluffle: :cool:

Uh-oh Kahta...your allies are abandoning your edited 'reasonable' position and falling back on the WHITE ONLY argument....

Again, Servus Dei...what about we, the original, non-white inhabitant of this land you immigrated illegaly to?

They're not my allies.

There was no central government to tell us we were not welcome. Maybe you should have been more advanced than a tribal civilization.

So if I'm predestined to go to Heaven, and I'm a member of the Elect, I can go murder someone and it's ok?

I'm not sure.

My bad this thread is lowering my iq.

Yeah, me too.... You guys do realise that flaming each other will result in absolutely no changes in immigration laws, tendencies, or even in each others opinions right?

I am just glad that people like Katha and Servus Die are the minority. And getting more minor as time goes on *party* :p :fluffle: :cool:
I don't know about "kahta" but WN is growing.

You?! There was nothing here but a bunch of Reds in a blood cult until Whites arrived.
Well that isn't exactly nothing is it...so you admit we were here first...and surely by now you realise we don't really have red skin, don't you? Blood cult...like drinking the blood and eating the flesh of Christ, even figuratively isn't kind of weird?

Anyway, not the point...you 'Whites' (why don't we say pinks instead?) weren't invited here...nor did you come legally...so perhaps you should consider yourselves to be illegal immigrants as well?

They're not my allies.

There was no central government to tell us we were not welcome. Maybe you should have been more advanced than a tribal civilization.

If the 'invaders' really were so advanced why did so many Europeans 'go native' and very few natives went European?

Yeah, me too.... You guys do realise that flaming each other will result in absolutely no changes in immigration laws, tendencies, or even in each others opinions right?

I don't mind, I like debating with people. If anything it shows how many people incorrectly think that marxism is correct, in the making of all people, and all races, equal.

My bad this thread is lowering my iq. :confused: :(
I know how you feel...eben mi splling iz getng wers...

I don't know about "kahta" but WN is growing.

like genital warts

I am just glad that people like Katha and Servus Die are the minority. And getting more minor as time goes on *party* :p :fluffle: :cool:
Yeah, we'll just breed them out of existence...care to start?*smooch*

(just kidding, I'm a faithful wife:))

I am just glad that people like Katha and Servus Die are the minority. And getting more minor as time goes on *party* :p :fluffle: :cool:

We're only a minority because of the marxist indoctrination in schools today.

I know you're going to point out the one shining example of a good hispanic, but for every good one in the US, there are 9 bad ones.

I'm going to do nothing of the sort. What I'm going to point out is that you no longer qualify for designation as a "reasonable racist" because you only meet half the criteria.

Well that isn't exactly nothing is it...so you admit we were here first...and surely by now you realise we don't really have red skin, don't you? Blood cult...like drinking the blood and eating the flesh of Christ, even figuratively isn't kind of weird?

Anyway, not the point...you 'Whites' (why don't we say pinks instead?) weren't invited here...nor did you come legally...so perhaps you should consider yourselves to be illegal immigrants as well?
The races are White, Yellow, Red, Brown, and Negro.

We don't need more immigrants here, 300 million people is enough, there are already a number of places in this country that are unsustainable to live in, such as most of the southwest. Water is being used up at 20 times the rate its being replenished.
Then why not impose limits on births while you're at it?

Thats because they create the most problems in this country, most of them ARE illegal, 1 million cross the border every year. A local city, known as "The Ghetto" is 60% hispanic, there are massive gang problems, and crime. I know you're going to point out the one shining example of a good hispanic, but for every good one in the US, there are 9 bad ones.
The majority of serial killers are white males.

So if the hispanics should be kicked out of the country for their "extreme likelyhood" of contributing to gang violence, then perhaps the "whites" should be kicked out for their likelyhood of contributing to the number of serial killers.

Just a thought.

I don't know about "kahta" but WN is growing.

I think WN needs to grow by using facts, and not being hateful, but using legit ideas.

We're only a minority because of the marxist indoctrination in schools today.
Marxist indoctrination?
Huh, when I was in school they were busy feeding us a bunch of racist, bigoted, facist propaganda.

Anyway, not the point...you 'Whites' (why don't we say pinks instead?) weren't invited here...nor did you come legally...so perhaps you should consider yourselves to be illegal immigrants as well?

No one told us we were not welcome. We didn't dig under a fence or break any laws in the process of coming here.

Yeah, we'll just breed them out of existence...care to start?*smooch*

(just kidding, I'm a faithful wife:))

:eek: *blushing*

Great idea!

And I'm a faithful boyfriend-soon-to-be-husband but my gf doesnt mind company ;) :p

They're not my allies.

There was no central government to tell us we were not welcome. Maybe you should have been more advanced than a tribal civilization.
Europe was nothing but a collection of tribal governments...warring governments with competing interests. Our local governments were as advanced as they needed to be...most tribes had complex hierachies, and we even had *gasp* democracy before you Europeans did...as many of our elders were elected, and removed if they displeased the people. We had complex trading agreements with neighbouring tribes, and we also waged wars on eachother as nations, not as individual family units. Think of North America not as single continent, inhabited by different ethnic groups at that time, but rather as a collection of nations, much like Europe, only on less populated scale.

In any case, when your people first came, we did welcome you, and would have been (in most cases) happy to let you stay. However, you came as conquerors, not as immigrants...you made no attempt to submit to our culture, as you wish others to submit to yours now. You came to make war on us. Be happy immigrants these days do not do the same.

(And if you feel that is exactly what they are doing, perhaps it is a form of divine justice?)

Marxist indoctrination?
Huh, when I was in school they were busy feeding us a bunch of racist, bigoted, facist propaganda.


Facism? Can't say I've heard of it.

But as for racism and bigotry, you probably mean anti-white, eh? Cause if not, I'd like to know just where you went to school.

We're only a minority because of the marxist indoctrination in schools today.

then go marxist indoctrination!

I like being being loving and kind to each other no matter what the colorof their skin.

The thing to get rid of next is class division :p

I don't know about "kahta" but WN is growing.
What is WN?
(I suspect it's something like White Nation, but then I'd have to point out that with low birthrates, your WN is in fact shrinking...)

Marxist indoctrination?
Huh, when I was in school they were busy feeding us a bunch of racist, bigoted, facist propaganda.

Since I don't know your age, I can't respond directly, but I'm sure what you were taught was better than "black achievements and women's achievements" well, the only reason we are taught about those, is because they're insignificant, and they put pressure on the politicians to make them "feel special".

What is WN?
(I suspect it's something like White Nation, but then I'd have to point out that with low birthrates, your WN is in fact shrinking...)
White Nationalism!

No one told us we were not welcome. We didn't dig under a fence or break any laws in the process of coming here.
The only reason you didn't break any laws was because you made laws to suit you. But you stole and murdered. Legally, of course.

Since I don't know your age, I can't respond directly, but I'm sure what you were taught was better than "black achievements and women's achievements" well, the only reason we are taught about those, is because they're insignificant, and they put pressure on the politicians to make them "feel special".

Right, while white American male achievements run the gamut from internal combustion to radio.

The races are White, Yellow, Red, Brown, and Negro.
Hmmm...in English, wouldn't that last have to be 'Black', not Negro? And wouldn't it also have to be 'black' just to fit into the colour scheme you have going?

Wow...I'd LOVE to see a Yellow person...

The majority of serial killers are white males.

So if the hispanics should be kicked out of the country for their "extreme likelyhood" of contributing to gang violence, then perhaps the "whites" should be kicked out for their likelyhood of contributing to the number of serial killers.

Just a thought.

The majority of criminals are non-white, they are the majority of people in prison. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#jail

I think WN needs to grow by using facts, and not being hateful, but using legit ideas.
I detect a schism in their ranks...

We're only a minority because of the marxist indoctrination in schools today.
I'd venture a guess that it's more because as time goes on, society realizes the inherent flaws of systems based upon the color of a person's skin or their ethnicity, and the stupidity of using these as the major factors in the evaluation of a person.

Marxist indoctrination?
Huh, when I was in school they were busy feeding us a bunch of racist, bigoted, facist propaganda.
Me too...we natives were either 'noble savages' or just 'savages'. Hmm...I'd like to go to these 'marxist' schools they keep talking about...

The majority of criminals are non-white, they are the majority of people in prison. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#jail
I didn't even counter that arguement. I simply stated that white males are the most likely to become serial killers (usually a rather heinous type of person) and therefore, should be kicked out. By your logic this is the conclusion that should be drawn, is it not?

Right, while white American male achievements run the gamut from internal combustion to radio.

If I recall, it was all white males that made those accomplishments.

No one told us we were not welcome. We didn't dig under a fence or break any laws in the process of coming here.
You didn't break any laws? The tribes had a laws that no one could 'own' the land or its resources...it was unthinkeable for someone to claim a patch of land and its resources, when that person did not create said land or resources. Oh, sorry, you didn't know about that law? Ignorance of the law is no defence. Oh, sorry, you didn't speak our language? Maybe you should have learned it before you came here. Oh, sorry, you didn't understand our culture? Again, maybe you should have learned it before you came.

Believe me, once your intentions were made clear, we made it clear that you were no longer wanted. By then, unfortunately, it was too late...you'd already slaughtered us, raped our women and spread your diseases.

I detect a schism in their ranks...
WN will always be united.

The majority of criminals are non-white, they are the majority of people in prison. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#jail

Did you know that these delightful statistics about crime also correlate to economic status? Correlation, not causation.

But I guess you can shoehorn that into a consistent worldview by saying that non-whites are also lazy and/or stupid and accordingly don't make as much money.

I didn't even counter that arguement. I simply stated that white males are the most likely to become serial killers (usually a rather heinous type of person) and therefore, should be kicked out. By your logic this is the conclusion that should be drawn, is it not?


No, they should be killed or sent to camps, because they're serial killers.

White Nationalism!
Say how many WN groups are respected by the public? I'm willing to bet none!

If I recall, it was all white males that made those accomplishments.

If you care to consider Italians "white."

The majority of criminals are non-white, they are the majority of people in prison. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#jail
And that couldn't have anything to do with racist laws and prison sentences...

The only reason you didn't break any laws was because you made laws to suit you. But you stole and murdered. Legally, of course.


If it was legal, there's nothing wrong with that, legally. Morally, it doesn't matter, since the indians were pagans anyways.

Since I don't know your age, I can't respond directly, but I'm sure what you were taught was better than "black achievements and women's achievements" well, the only reason we are taught about those, is because they're insignificant, and they put pressure on the politicians to make them "feel special".
Age?
Post high-school.

What I was taught was better? Well, for starters, this was the teacher I had for most of high school:
The teacher used racist slurs directly in the faces of non-whites on more than one occaision, and the school didn't care. He also wouldn't accept papers that disagreed with his opinions.

My high school teacher in middle school advocated killing people with "undesirable traits".

This is better than a little possible innacuracy?

No, they should be killed or sent to camps, because they're serial killers.
But you're stating that hispanics shouldn't be allowed into the country due to their "contribution to violent crime."
Should not whites also not be allowed in for their contributions to violent crime?

You didn't break any laws? The tribes had a laws that no one could 'own' the land or its resources...it was unthinkeable for someone to claim a patch of land and its resources, when that person did not create said land or resources. Oh, sorry, you didn't know about that law? Ignorance of the law is no defence. Oh, sorry, you didnt' speak our language? Maybe you should have learned it before you came here. Oh, sorry, you didn't understand our culture? Again, maybe you should have learned it before you came.

Believe me, once your intentions were made clear, we made it clear that you were no longer wanted. By then, unfortunately, it was too late...you'd already slaughtered us, raped our women and spread your diseases.


So are you trying to say that Chris Columbus isn't your hero? :p

I am still in awe about how our "marxist teachings" have led Americans to believe just that and left out all the stuff about how he mass murdered innocent people.

This is something Katha is proud of I am sure though. Yay you and your hero mass murderes Katha! Thatrs some good morality! mmmm mmmmmmmmmm

And that couldn't have anything to do with racist laws and prison sentences...


They aren't racist. They just commit more crimes.

WN will always be united.
Um...Kahta doesn't entirely agree with your tactics...will you 'enforce' that unity then, somehow?

What about the Whites who don't support your WN? Oh wait, let me guess, they are race traitors, and lose their membership in the white-only clubs...hmmm...interesting...does that mean a native who acts white, and hates natives, could become an honorary member of this WN?

If you care to consider Italians "white."

Yes, I consider them white, for the record, I consider Jews white too.

Jews are not White! They are Semitic desert parasites.

If you care to consider Italians "white."
Well, Italians are the lesser of many evils now I guess, although fifty years ago, you wouldn't have good, god-fearing WASPS hanging out with I-talians...

Age?
Post high-school.

What I was taught was better? Well, for starters, this was the teacher I had for most of high school:
The teacher used racist slurs directly in the faces of non-whites on more than one occaision, and the school didn't care. He also wouldn't accept papers that disagreed with his opinions.

My high school teacher in middle school advocated killing people with "undesirable traits".

This is better than a little possible innacuracy?


That is a matter of poltical correctness. He should have accepted those papers, regardless.

Killing people with "undesirable traits" is also known as social darwinism.

The Judeo-WASP has fallen, the Jew is now in control directly.

Not good (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-02/23/content_2606376.htm)

Not good.... I bet most of those 53% born in latin America are illegals. They should be kicked out and sent back to mexico.

To respond to some people, and a point that keeps being raised, I'll say this: I don't care what race an immigrant is, if they're an Illegal, they shouldn't be here, no matter what their race is. If they're legal, I don't have a problem.

Your faith in the law is quite touching, but sadly misplaced. Have you ever stopped to consider the fairness of American immigration laws?

I'm all for legal standards if those standards are just. But arbitrary immigration quotas for each nation is ultimately tantamount to racial discrimination. Why should more Swedes per capita be allowed into the US than Nigerians, hmm?

Oh and btw, I should think America of all places would welcome immigration of any kind. After all, it was founded by the largest population migration in human history, and it seems a bit silly for a culture of immigrants to be against all forms of voluntary immigration.

Um...Kahta doesn't entirely agree with your tactics...will you 'enforce' that unity then, somehow?

What about the Whites who don't support your WN? Oh wait, let me guess, they are race traitors, and lose their membership in the white-only clubs...hmmm...interesting...does that mean a native who acts white, and hates natives, could become an honorary member of this WN?

We are still united.

The whites that don't support this, are self-hating whites, that through society have been forced to hate themselves.

If it was legal, there's nothing wrong with that, legally. Morally, it doesn't matter, since the indians were pagans anyways.
Hey, we considered you pretty pagan too...how do you know you aren't going to our hell for being Christian? (In my culture, by the way, hell is really, really cold...and you can't have sex because your genitals are frozen...doesn't that sound way scarier than some hot place with sexy whores and whore-men?)

If it was legal, there's nothing wrong with that, legally. Morally, it doesn't matter, since the indians were pagans anyways.
Oh, and try this one out...say all these 'illegal immigrants'...let's pretend they're all from Mexico instead of from all over the world...let's say the Mexican government passed a law saying it was legal to enter the US any way you wanted...would that make it legal? Of course not! Why? Because you must follow the laws of the country you are in. Your European laws did not apply...so yes, you came as law-breakers.

Jews are not White! They are Semitic desert parasites.

No, they aren't, they can blend in with whites. I'm talking about European Jews, not Asian Jews from the Middle East.

Um...Kahta doesn't entirely agree with your tactics...will you 'enforce' that unity then, somehow?

What about the Whites who don't support your WN? Oh wait, let me guess, they are race traitors, and lose their membership in the white-only clubs...hmmm...interesting...does that mean a native who acts white, and hates natives, could become an honorary member of this WN?
I don't know about you, but if my Insert Race Here's nation is gonna be populated by idiots, I think I'll pass on the club membership.

I'm all for legal standards if those standards are just. But arbitrary immigration quotas for each nation is ultimately tantamount to racial discrimination. Why should more Swedes per capita be allowed into the US than Nigerians, hmm?

Because the negro will be a lazy, parasitic criminal living on White funding, trashing White culture and raping/ race-mixing.

We are still united.

The whites that don't support this, are self-hating whites, that through society have been forced to hate themselves.
You consider Jews white, that goes against everything a WN stands for. Since ya know most WNs for some reason consider Jews their arch enemy.

The Judeo-WASP has fallen, the Jew is now in control directly.

No, thats BS, the NWO is in control.

Hey, we considered you pretty pagan too...how do you know you aren't going to our hell for being Christian? (In my culture, by the way, hell is really, really cold...and you can't have sex because your genitals are frozen...doesn't that sound way scarier than some hot place with sexy whores and whore-men?)


eeek dont scare me I was hoping for the christian hell :p

Oh, snap.

Is this the "White Nation" we're talking about?

http://www.whitenation.com/

If so, here's a wonderful little passage.

http://www.whitenation.com/wnholocaust.htm

We are still united.

The whites that don't support this, are self-hating whites, that through society have been forced to hate themselves.

This forum has experienced a huge influx of trolls.

Crawl back to your Massachusetts hole, dumbass.

No, they aren't, they can blend in with whites. I'm talking about European Jews, not Asian Jews from the Middle East.
"European Jew?!" What a contradiction. The Jews can never be White; they are always the enemy of the White people as they always have been.

We are still united.

The whites that don't support this, are self-hating whites, that through society have been forced to hate themselves.
I like myself just fine, thank you very much.

I just think racism is foolish, and by extension racists are, "lacking in mental capacity."

"European Jew?!" What a contradiction. The Jews can never be White; they are always the enemy of the White people as they always have been.

Did Stormfront's server break down recently or something?

They aren't racist. They just commit more crimes.
The laws aren't racist, the laws just commit more crimes? Don't use a subject pronoun if you aren't going to be using the subject directly preceding it.

You consider Jews white, that goes against everything a WN stands for. Since ya know most WNs for some reason consider Jews their arch enemy.

Most WNs are complete morons that just want to get a reaction, so they tatoo themselves and prance around with German battle flags from WWII.

Jews are not White! They are Semitic desert parasites.
Oops..there goes the unity....

Where is the love? WHERE IS IT!!???

Most WNs are complete morons that just want to get a reaction, so they tatoo themselves and prance around with German battle flags from WWII.
Those are skinheads, not WN.

Oh, snap.

Is this the "White Nation" we're talking about?

http://www.whitenation.com/

If so, here's a wonderful little passage.

http://www.whitenation.com/wnholocaust.htm

http://loserz.scribblekid.org/comics/20041112.gif
*With thanks to Erik Schoenek*

Oops..there goes the unity....

Where is the love? WHERE IS IT!!???


hah!

We are still united.

The whites that don't support this, are self-hating whites, that through society have been forced to hate themselves.
So the whites that don't hate other races just hate themselves? They aren't tolerant, they are self-intolerant?

The laws aren't racist, the laws just commit more crimes? Don't use a subject pronoun if you aren't going to be using the subject directly preceding it.

And the laws are racist. Look at the sentencing guidelines for crack vs. those for cocaine. Why? Cause crack is an inner city drug pravalent among minorities while coke is a frat boy money drug. So, arbitrarily, the courts decide to land on the crack users with much harder sentences, which means your crack user will spend more time in prison and therefore be overrepresented in prison. Here's a source. McDonald and Carlson, "Sentencing in the Federal Courts" Bureau of Justice Statistics, DC.

The laws aren't racist, the laws just commit more crimes? Don't use a subject pronoun if you aren't going to be using the subject directly preceding it.

They [the laws] aren't racist. They [the non-whites] just commit more crimes.

No, thats BS, the NWO is in control.
*watches the conspiracy theories duke it out in a death match*

Step back slowly everyone...this could get ugly...

I love it when I get a rebuttal in before the original post gets decoded from gibberish.

Those are skinheads, not WN.
Strange, most of your comrades on Stormfront would beg to differ.

then go marxist indoctrination!

I like being being loving and kind to each other no matter what the colorof their skin.

The thing to get rid of next is class division :p

Class division is a good thing. It keeps the trash out of the good neighborhoods.

This forum has experienced a huge influx of trolls.


No, these people are serious...I would therefore not label them trolls.

I don't see any laws written into this site proclaiming that.

We had a Naturalization Act of 1790, and then various "Exclusion Acts" throughout the 1800s.
Most of which have been repealed by this point (or simply not inforced as is the case with lots of old laws)

Strange, most of your comrades on Stormfront would beg to differ.
Perhaps on VNN, but Stormfront typically keeps the perspective on WN, not "'morons" looking to get reactions as Kahta accused.

Because the negro will be a lazy, parasitic criminal living on White funding, trashing White culture and raping/ race-mixing.

Sorry Servus, but I have made it my policy not to waste time trying to reason with losers. I will leave you to wallow in your own bigotry and hatred.
Have fun ;)

"European Jew?!" What a contradiction. The Jews can never be White; they are always the enemy of the White people as they always have been.

How can you tell what a Jew is? Can one convert to be a Jew, if they convert to Judiaism? No.

And the laws are racist. Look at the sentencing guidelines for crack vs. those for cocaine. Why? Cause crack is an inner city drug pravalent among minorities while coke is a frat boy money drug. So, arbitrarily, the courts decide to land on the crack users with much harder sentences, which means your crack user will spend more time in prison and therefore be overrepresented in prison. Here's a source. McDonald and Carlson, "Sentencing in the Federal Courts" Bureau of Justice Statistics, DC.

Marion Barry-mayor of Washington DC loved his crack. He likely still does.
I dont often hear of "frat boys" killing their girlfriend's kids or carjacking. The lifestyle that accompanies crack users is more often violent and desperate.
The statistics can be used to prove an arguement either way-it all depends on what YOU WANT THEM TO PROVE.

How can you tell what a Jew is? Can one convert to be a Jew, if they convert to Judiaism? No.
No, you cannot convert to be a Jew, because Jews are a distinct Semitic racial group who came to thrive off the poor of Europe centuries ago.

Wow...I'd LOVE to see a Yellow person...

You know jaundice isn't actually all that nice...

http://www.kingidentity.com/comic.gif

Those are skinheads, not WN.

They're still WN.

Those are skinheads, not WN.
Are they not a part of WN too?

If they are, and you don't agree with them, does that not mean there is some disunity in your ranks?

http://www.kingidentity.com/comic.gif
So a flawed comic by someone with the drawing capacity of a tic tac is supposed to convince us of what?

They're still WN.
Some

[http://www.kingidentity.com/comic.gif

I'm no more convinced now than the first time that was posted here. Do the White Nationalists only have about ten or so different graphics?

Edit: are they still selling their spanking sticks? Yup - seems so to me.

http://www.kingidentity.com/spanking.jpg

They [the laws] aren't racist. They [the non-whites] just commit more crimes.
Thank you for correcting your grammar. I still take issue with the underlying assertation, but I don't think I'm going to do the work to prove you wrong...unless you would be willing to actually look at stats that might conflict with your beliefs....?

I'm no more convinced now than the first time that was posted here. Do the White Nationalists only have about ten or so different graphics?
And you'd think they would at least learn how to draw well.
I mean, if White Nationalists really are the superior race, you'd think they would have some better skills.

No, you cannot convert to be a Jew, because Jews are a distinct Semitic racial group who came to thrive off the poor of Europe centuries ago.
So you can be a white person who practices Judaism, and they are not Jewish?

i belive that that if the government does not want its people that we as people should take them in and give them a job so that they live

And you'd think they would at least learn how to draw well.
I mean, if White Nationalists really are the superior race, you'd think they would have some better skills.
BAHHAAAAA!

So you can be a white person who practices Judaism, and they are not Jewish?
A traitor to WN, but not a Jew.

Dear, dear me, what have we here? This is quite sad, isn’t it? An affluent, advanced state, and yet it can still breed the kind of primitive who bases a judgement of an individual upon their skin colour. Well, let’s get stuck in, anyway.

1) "White nationalism” is a joke. The vast majority of whites (certainly in my experience) regard white nationalism as a disgusting mental aberration upon the part of its exponents. White nationalism has little support outside of areas whose populations have been historically racist – the south and Midwest of America, for instance.

2) “White self-haters” do not hate themselves. I’m white – so what? It makes no odds to me what your skin colour is, because I have the intellect and education to realize that skin colour is one of the most inaccurate, arbitrary and unqualified means ever conceived by the more mentally inadequate members of the human race for measuring a man’s worth. The intelligent population of the world (especially, ironically, the “white bastions” of Europe and the USA) have concluded some time ago that race is inconsequential in the capability of a human being (unless of course you want to pick at differences such as minor musculature differences; be my guest, but it makes not a white of difference).

3) Racial differences between human beings are minute. Oft-repeated as this point is, it bears re-iterating nonetheless: humans are more than ninety-nine per cent genetically identical. Racial differences are so insignificant as to be non-existent; nowhere in the human genetic code is there any gene sequence which alters the neural capacity of a race, for instance. Racial differences are for the most part confined to differences in skin pigmentation and bone structure; the minor muscular differences between races are hardly damning evidence of white “racial superiority.”

4) White supremacists fail to note that, when given the opportunities presented to whites, non-whites are quite happily able to achieve the same standards as they are. One of my teachers is black, and a formidable debater; an Indian friend of mine is currently predicted all A’s for his A-levels; my father is currently instructing a pair of Arab women who are on course to achieve firsts from the University of Manchester. It is worthy of note, also, that my friend Hazim achieved straight As and A*s at GCSE; having left our grammar school and gone to another, lower-grade college, his grades have fallen off. The same rule applies in reverse, in that if you give a white no opportunity to excel, he will not excel; again, white supremacists seem strangely unable to explain why the vast majority of crime on the streets of my area is committed by whites.

5) White supremacists also fail to note that this can be seen in history. Go back to the 14th century and Mogadishu had wealth beyond the dreams of any European, was a centre of art and science, and was distinctly unimpressed by the motley trading ships we sent round the cape – all in circumstances far less conducive to leisure (which is of course the cornerstone of abstract thought) than those in which whites exist. Go to the Middle East in the middle ages, and you’d find Arab surgeons prescribing cures which are used today and living in cities with lit streets. The Chinese had gunpowder, kites, toothbrushes, paper and complex mathematics and philosophy while whites were still making grunting noises and bashing one another on the head with bits of sharp metal; Angkor Wat springs to mind, doesn’t it? Care to explain that, white trash? (May as well get into the spirit of trolling, eh? Not so fun when you’re on the receiving end.)

6) It’s interesting to note, is it not, that whites nationalists accuse the Jews of controlling people’s minds through the media and a systematic campaign of suppression of hostile opinion, yet there are still white supremacists wandering around, accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with their amusingly inaccurate, pitifully primitive world-view of being a “white self-hater”? Can these “superior” whites not think beyond the narrow confines of their doctrinal base – or are they afraid of the truth?

A traitor to WN, but not a Jew.

Then you want a Christian nation. WN, can, and should include Jews, because they are a good part of the brain power in this country.

Then you want a Christian nation. WN, can, and should include Jews, because they are a good part of the brain power in this country.
Jews are very good at deception and squeezing shekels out any way they can, I'll give you that.

Some
And you wonder why WNs aren't taken seriously in the mainstream. You guys contradict yourselves constantly! First you say that Skinheads are not part of WN, now you say some are? Make up your mind!!

ROFLMAO
:) :) :)

Jews are very good at deception and squeezing shekels out any way they can, I'll give you that.

Shekel?

Jew's aren't good at deception any more than a white is, I could pass of as a Jew easily, any white could.

And you wonder why WNs aren't taken seriously in the mainstream. You guys contradict yourselves constantly! First you say that Skinheads are not part of WN, now you say some are? Make up your mind!!
People confuse the fact that some skinheads are WN to think that being a skinhead is primarily being a WN. Often, they are just gangs. There are Jewish and negro skinheads too, that are of course, not WN.

Shekel?

Jew's aren't good at deception any more than a white is, I could pass of as a Jew easily, any white could.

You'd be confined to Opposing Views at Stormfront by now...

The Jews are the root of the White people's problems.

*Smart*
Dontcha like how your post just goes unanswered.

You'd be confined to Opposing Views at Stormfront by now...

The Jews are the root of the White people's problems.

Ah yes, I see now. By being resourceful, determined and close-knit, they've caused everything. Yep, makes perfect sense. People like you make me ashamed to be white. YOU are the race-traitors, the self-haters, and the scourge of white civilisation. While the rest of us have moved forward, you and your kind have only moved backwards. Even monkeys can tell that one monkey and another monlkey with a different fur colour are the same species; evidently white trash have now regressed beyond the level of apes.