Need some mental support
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:37
So after two years, one month, and twenty-one days, my boyfriend broke up with me yesterday. I feel like complete poo.
Please cheer me up, because I am stuck alone at work, and I don't want to be sitting here crying. :(
Cogitation
25-01-2005, 02:38
I'm sorry to hear that.
If it's not too personal a question, what was the reason for the breakup? Did you two just not fit well together?
--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:41
I'm sorry to hear that.
If it's not too personal a question, what was the reason for the breakup? Did you two just not fit well together?
--The Democratic States of Cogitation
He wants to see other people....and I live too far away (I moved 3hrs away from him about 6 mos ago).
At least that is what he says.
He was just such a jack@$$ the way he did it. Over the phone, in an eight minute conversation that consisted mostly of him being mean to me.
Cannot think of a name
25-01-2005, 02:41
You know whats good for that? Heroin.
I'm kidding, of course. It's what I say everytime something sucks. Not realizing that not everyone understands that I'm joking has gotten me in trouble more than once.....
Ashmoria
25-01-2005, 02:41
aww that sucks
the ignorant bastard
on the bright side, i bet its REALLY cold there tonight
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:42
aww that sucks
the ignorant bastard
on the bright side, i bet its REALLY cold there tonight
It was actually warmer today than it has been in weeks...lots of the snow we got on friday melted. :)
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 02:42
]Need some mental support
What ... like a bra for the brain? :D
So after two years, one month, and twenty-one days, my boyfriend broke up with me yesterday. I feel like complete poo.
Please cheer me up, because I am stuck alone at work, and I don't want to be sitting here crying. :(
I'm not very good at cheering people up over the internet. But here's a fluffle :fluffle: and some warm fuzzies and a scary picture of Lunatic Goofballs.
http://www.unlc.biz/images/lunaticeat.gif
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 02:42
You know whats good for that? Heroin.
I'm kidding, of course. It's what I say everytime something sucks. Not realizing that not everyone understands that I'm joking has gotten me in trouble more than once.....
Yeah, I always say things like "Awww. Damn, that's sad. Hey, wanna borrow my razor blades?"
I got kicked out of high school once for saying that...
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:43
I'm not very good at cheering people up over the internet. But here's a fluffle :fluffle: and some warm fuzzies and a scary picture of Lunatic Goofballs.
http://www.unlc.biz/images/lunaticeat.gif
Thanks
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 02:44
He wants to see other people....and I live too far away (I moved 3hrs away from him about 6 mos ago).
At least that is what he says.
He was just such a jack@$$ the way he did it. Over the phone, in an eight minute conversation that consisted mostly of him being mean to me.
:(
That's awful.
I hope you feel better soon, and eventually find someone who it all works out with.
Cannot think of a name
25-01-2005, 02:45
He wants to see other people....and I live too far away (I moved 3hrs away from him about 6 mos ago).
At least that is what he says.
He was just such a jack@$$ the way he did it. Over the phone, in an eight minute conversation that consisted mostly of him being mean to me.
Oh, well then crap-thats not about you at all. It seems like one of those inverted rejection deallies-you know, like breaking up with someone so they don't break up with you? That kind of thing. Thats why the overly defensive method and delivery-can't be as vulnerable over the phone and if he stays on the attack the whole time.
I could be wrong, but based on the modicum of info we have, it was a defensive move. Inability to deal with something he felt was a rejection, threat, yadda yadda pop psychology etc....
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:45
:(
That's awful.
I hope you feel better soon, and eventually find someone who it all works out with.
Thanks.
I just feel like I wasted a whole bunch of my life....ugh. I just don't get what is wrong with me, why doesn't he want to be with me, etc. I've got lots of self-doubt going on.
Shai Hulud II
25-01-2005, 02:45
Sry bout ur boyfriend but a lot of times he proplembly would have broken up with you anyway if he didnt move. sry, but its true. Dont do anything cause what dest it matter??????? :confused:
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:47
Oh, well then crap-thats not about you at all. It seems like one of those inverted rejection deallies-you know, like breaking up with someone so they don't break up with you? That kind of thing. Thats why the overly defensive method and delivery-can't be as vulnerable over the phone and if he stays on the attack the whole time.
I could be wrong, but based on the modicum of info we have, it was a defensive move. Inability to deal with something he felt was a rejection, threat, yadda yadda pop psychology etc....
i guess that makes sense....i just feel like i have no idea what i am doing now. because i was planning on moving back down there in june...but now there is no point. now what do i do? ya know..
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 02:47
*hugs*
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:48
*hugs*
Thanks
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 02:48
i guess that makes sense....i just feel like i have no idea what i am doing now. because i was planning on moving back down there in june...but now there is no point. now what do i do? ya know..
Come to Houston! You may not be from Texas, but Texas wants you anyway. :D
Cannot think of a name
25-01-2005, 02:48
i guess that makes sense....i just feel like i have no idea what i am doing now. because i was planning on moving back down there in june...but now there is no point. now what do i do? ya know..
Well, whatever you do you can now remove one factor from the equation. Do what you want, what will be best for you in the long run. It should be easier to decide now.
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 02:49
Thanks
It's what I'm here for.
Cannot think of a name
25-01-2005, 02:50
Yeah, I always say things like "Awww. Damn, that's sad. Hey, wanna borrow my razor blades?"
I got kicked out of high school once for saying that...
Thats a good one. Sounds like an old roommate of mine...have to remember that.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:50
Come to Houston! You may not be from Texas, but Texas wants you anyway. :D
Actually....that isn't a BAD idea...my Aunt wants me to move down there. I need to find her email address....
Ashmoria
25-01-2005, 02:51
you have tons of time to figure out your best options for the summer. at least he didnt string you along until you got there THEN break up with you. now THOSE men are utter bastards! i knew a guy who waited until his gf got to his COUNTRY to tell her it was over.
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 02:52
Actually....that isn't a BAD idea...my Aunt wants me to move down there. I need to find her email address....
There, see? A plan is already in the formulation. Keep them cogwheels spinnin', girl! Do what's best for your life ... your boyfriend has already done what's best for his.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:53
you have tons of time to figure out your best options for the summer. at least he didnt string you along until you got there THEN break up with you. now THOSE men are utter bastards! i knew a guy who waited until his gf got to his COUNTRY to tell her it was over.
Yeah thats true. I would have been really pissed if i ended up back in Iowa, alone.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 02:53
Thanks.
I just feel like I wasted a whole bunch of my life....ugh. I just don't get what is wrong with me, why doesn't he want to be with me, etc. I've got lots of self-doubt going on.
I know the whole self-doubt thing. It's such an annoying vicious cycle... Hard to do anything because you don't believe in yourself, which causes you to believe less. It's so hard to get over it all...
Anyway, I understand what you're going through.
:fluffle:
What I always did was make a cup of tea and listen to some happy music. It didn't help, but it got my mind off it for a little.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:54
There, see? A plan is already in the formulation. Keep them cogwheels spinnin', girl! Do what's best for your life ... your boyfriend has already done what's best for his.
Help me figure out where my aunt works so i can look for her email....she works for some hospital chain, and i can't remember the name of it, but they are connected with university of texas medical center.
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 02:55
He wants to see other people....and I live too far away (I moved 3hrs away from him about 6 mos ago).
Was there any intent for the distance to be reduced in the near future? He might have felt like he wasn't getting enough out of the relationship without being able to be with his girlfriend. Perhaps he just needs a hiatus to think it over, I don't know, I have very little information.
At least that is what he says.
He's probably telling the truth. Though I don't like saying cynical things like this to emotionally sensitive people, I am completely tactless most of the time--he might already be seeing another girl and has already replaced you, and this was just a formality to get your long-distance relationship over with.
He was just such a jack@$$ the way he did it. Over the phone, in an eight minute conversation that consisted mostly of him being mean to me.
Is that the type of action you'd expect from him? Perhaps he was having a really bad day and was just trying to vent it on something. He might've even been drunk or high. Again, this is all speculative, and I'm just trying to consider all possible motives. From what I can tell on this forum, you seem like a very pleasant and fun person to be with, and, again, my gut feeling is that he just wanted to be with you more. He might've felt bitter about his dissatisfaction in the relationship, and that was why he did so.
Overall, I'm sorry for what happened. Don't doubt yourself, as I said earlier, it probably isn't any fault of yours that caused this, but circumstances fairly out of your control.
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 02:55
Help me figure out where my aunt works so i can look for her email....she works for some hospital chain, and i can't remember the name of it, but they are connected with university of texas medical center.
MD Anderson or Memorial Hermann?
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 02:57
MD Anderson or Memorial Hermann?
thats it....my uncle works at md anderson and my aunt works at memorial hermann. thanks.
Belperia
25-01-2005, 02:58
I live too far away (I moved 3hrs away from him about 6 mos ago).
...
Over the phone, in an eight minute conversation that consisted mostly of him being mean to me.
I'm not being funny here, but am I the only one who can see a connection here? And how exactly did he manage to be mean to you for 8 whole minutes? I mean no offence, but if he'd been being mean for two minutes I'd have put the phone down on him! Are you certain his being mean wasn't in fact him telling you why it's all over at your request?
I say this because I was once in the same boat (although it was a 2 hour drive - and not in a boat really) and was somewhat disheartened to hear from her friends what an absolute total bastard I was for dumping her so unceremoniously. The fact we'd discussed how hard it was to maintain the relationship over a distance of 180 miles, and the fact she wasn't prepared to travel down as regularly as I travelled up didn't seem to matter.
The key here is that all men are bastards. And we're shit in bed. And have small dicks.
Feeling better? :)
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 02:58
thats it....my uncle works at md anderson and my aunt works at memorial hermann. thanks.
No problemo!
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 02:59
What I always did was make a cup of tea and listen to some happy music. It didn't help, but it got my mind off it for a little.
Eh, it all depends on your personality. A lot of the time, I prefer depressing music. I am very Japanese in that melancholic way. I somehow enjoy feeling melancholy... But if you're like most people, happy music, movies, and/or books should make you feel better. Hell, whenever I watch a depressing movie it always trivialises my own problems, and I realise my life doesn't actually suck all that much.
Boonytopia
25-01-2005, 02:59
What you need to do is go to the pub with your mates & spend an evening bitching about all the shitty things he did. I find it very cathartic. Good friends are always good for cheering you up. :)
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 02:59
The key here is that all men are bastards. And we're shit in bed. And have small dicks.
HEY ........ I am not a bastard.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:00
Was there any intent for the distance to be reduced in the near future? He might have felt like he wasn't getting enough out of the relationship without being able to be with his girlfriend. Perhaps he just needs a hiatus to think it over, I don't know, I have very little information.
He's probably telling the truth. Though I don't like saying cynical things like this to emotionally sensitive people, I am completely tactless most of the time--he might already be seeing another girl and has already replaced you, and this was just a formality to get your long-distance relationship over with.
Is that the type of action you'd expect from him? Perhaps he was having a really bad day and was just trying to vent it on something. He might've even been drunk or high. Again, this is all speculative, and I'm just trying to consider all possible motives. From what I can tell on this forum, you seem like a very pleasant and fun person to be with, and, again, my gut feeling is that he just wanted to be with you more. He might've felt bitter about his dissatisfaction in the relationship, and that was why he did so.
Overall, I'm sorry for what happened. Don't doubt yourself, as I said earlier, it probably isn't any fault of yours that caused this, but circumstances fairly out of your control.
I know he was not seeing anyone else....but i am sure that he was contemplating it, and hence, the breakup.
i dont know why he was such a jerk in the way he spoke to me. he just had such a bad attitude in his voice, like so incredibly rude. not like himself. and it was like 4pm on a sunday, so he wasn't drunk, and he doesnt do drugs. i dont know what the hell his deal was. all i know is that i can't go trying to beg for him back, because i can't go through this again.
Belperia
25-01-2005, 03:00
HEY ........ I am not a bastard.
Okay then... :rolleyes: :headbang:
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 03:00
Eh, it all depends on your personality. A lot of the time, I prefer depressing music. I am very Japanese in that melancholic way. I somehow enjoy feeling melancholy... But if you're like most people, happy music, movies, and/or books should make you feel better. Hell, whenever I watch a depressing movie it always trivialises my own problems, and I realise my life doesn't actually suck all that much.
I like depressive music too, but it dosen't help when you're spiraling into a pit of self-destruction. I don't enjoy almost killing myself, and that's where trying to distract myself comes in.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:01
I'm not being funny here, but am I the only one who can see a connection here? And how exactly did he manage to be mean to you for 8 whole minutes? I mean no offence, but if he'd been being mean for two minutes I'd have put the phone down on him! Are you certain his being mean wasn't in fact him telling you why it's all over at your request?
I say this because I was once in the same boat (although it was a 2 hour drive - and not in a boat really) and was somewhat disheartened to hear from her friends what an absolute total bastard I was for dumping her so unceremoniously. The fact we'd discussed how hard it was to maintain the relationship over a distance of 180 miles, and the fact she wasn't prepared to travel down as regularly as I travelled up didn't seem to matter.
The key here is that all men are bastards. And we're shit in bed. And have small dicks.
Feeling better? :)
I was always the one who travelled down there to see him. he only came up here once. i was going to go down there this coming weekend, he could have waited and done it in person.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:03
He also nicely weaseled himself out of having to buy my christmas present.
I spent a ridiculous amount of money buying his presents. He was going to pay for half of my ipod which i was going to get this weekend. But now, since we have conveniently broken up, and i won't be going down there, guess who just saved himself 150 bucks. :sniper:
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 03:04
HEY ........ I am not a bastard.
Are you a man? We're all bastards at one point or another. :p
I know he was not seeing anyone else....but i am sure that he was contemplating it, and hence, the breakup.
Again, this is kind of cynical, but he might've fallen for someone else, with someone else specific in mind. I don't know, that just seems to be likely.
i dont know why he was such a jerk in the way he spoke to me. he just had such a bad attitude in his voice, like so incredibly rude. not like himself. and it was like 4pm on a sunday, so he wasn't drunk, and he doesnt do drugs. i dont know what the hell his deal was. all i know is that i can't go trying to beg for him back, because i can't go through this again.
Unless there were outside factors, then he probably isn't worth it. Anyone who breaks up like that most likely isn't worth the effort to get back.
If you don't support Bush, this (http://www.depresident.com/george-bush-mighty-mouse-video.asp) might cheer you up. :D
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 03:04
I was always the one who travelled down there to see him. he only came up here once. i was going to go down there this coming weekend, he could have waited and done it in person.
Well, he didn't. For whatever reason he made the decision to do it the way he did it was just that ... his decision. Unfortunately, you cannot control other people.
It would have been more polite to do it in person, yes, but he made his choice. Every decision we make hurts someone somewhere and, well, to quote an old song, "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself".
Even better, an old Buddhist saying, "One must act in accordance with how things are, not how one wants things to be."
Belperia
25-01-2005, 03:05
I was always the one who travelled down there to see him. he only came up here once. i was going to go down there this coming weekend, he could have waited and done it in person.
Trust me, you wouldn't want that! That would involve either a hefty drive feeling extremely low, or an agonizing period of wanting him to say it ain't true... followed by a hefty drive. Either way, I can honestly say you will look back at this and be glad he did it by phone...
Three hour drive... feeling crushed and humiliated... you really want that.
No, you don't.
I recommend scotch on the rocks, with a Bill Hicks DVD. Get some mates 'round. Have a laugh at his expense. Isn't that what women do anyway? :)
Your ex boyfriend sounds like he's got issues, btw.
Eutrusca
25-01-2005, 03:06
So after two years, one month, and twenty-one days, my boyfriend broke up with me yesterday. I feel like complete poo.
Please cheer me up, because I am stuck alone at work, and I don't want to be sitting here crying. :(
Awww! [ offers MK a shoulder ]
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 03:06
Are you a man? We're all bastards at one point or another. :p
No no ... it was a joke ... notice I only denied one of the three things I quoted.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:07
Ok....the goal to not cry at work is not working
Eutrusca
25-01-2005, 03:08
... all men are bastards. And we're shit in bed. And have small dicks.
Hey, dude! Speak for yourself! :D
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 03:09
I like depressive music too, but it dosen't help when you're spiraling into a pit of self-destruction. I don't enjoy almost killing myself, and that's where trying to distract myself comes in.
Ahh...well I can see where you're coming from, I derive a certain pleasure from that feeling. Not always, but occasionally... I sometimes wonder just how masochistic (non-sexually) I really am...
He also nicely weaseled himself out of having to buy my christmas present.
I spent a ridiculous amount of money buying his presents. He was going to pay for half of my ipod which i was going to get this weekend. But now, since we have conveniently broken up, and i won't be going down there, guess who just saved himself 150 bucks. :sniper:
That might've been what made him choose to do it earlier rather than later. If that really was a motive, that's pretty gross in certain ways, though very pragamatic and reasonable.
Ashmoria
25-01-2005, 03:09
Yeah thats true. I would have been really pissed if i ended up back in Iowa, alone.
see? theres another good side
at the end of the day (right about now eh?) youre in minneapolis but HE is in iowa!
who has the better deal?
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:10
That might've been what made him choose to do it earlier rather than later. If that really was a motive, that's pretty gross in certain ways, though very pragamatic and reasonable.
And very assholish....
Eutrusca
25-01-2005, 03:10
Check your TGs, MK.
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 03:11
And very assholish....
I certainly agree.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 03:11
Ahh...well I can see where you're coming from, I derive a certain pleasure from that feeling. Not always, but occasionally... I sometimes wonder just how masochistic (non-sexually) I really am...
Well, i'm that sort of person, but I'm also the sort of person that struggles with self-injury and manic depressive disorder, and the feeling isn't a good thing when you're in a depressive mood try to convince yourself it would be a really bad idea to slit your wrists.
That's where some nice herbal tea and The Flaming Lips come in.
:)
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:11
see? theres another good side
at the end of the day (right about now eh?) youre in minneapolis but HE is in iowa!
who has the better deal?
I am living in the better place. But he is down there holding all of our mutual friends hostage and I am probably never going to see half of them again, and that makes me want to cry too.
We were all supposed to go to a modest mouse concert next month, but he told me he doesnt want me to go anymore. :mad:
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:13
Check your TGs, MK.
thanks
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:15
So after two years, one month, and twenty-one days, my boyfriend broke up with me yesterday. I feel like complete poo.
Please cheer me up, because I am stuck alone at work, and I don't want to be sitting here crying. :(
Cheer up. Love and sex are evil, filthy things, and you have bettered yourself by throwing off their shackles. You are free. Enjoy it.
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 03:16
He was just such a jack@$$ the way he did it. Over the phone, in an eight minute conversation that consisted mostly of him being mean to me.
Babe, then he isn't worth you're time at all then. From what I've read you seem to be a very great person... and did get some votes on the best looking people in NS... Now get your little butt off of work and go hunt down some hot person in your area code.
(maybe after a little crying and/or anger venting activity)
Ashmoria
25-01-2005, 03:16
I am living in the better place. But he is down there holding all of our mutual friends hostage and I am probably never going to see half of them again, and that makes me want to cry too.
We were all supposed to go to a modest mouse concert next month, but he told me he doesnt want me to go anymore. :mad:
tell him to BITE YOU, hes not your boyfriend any more. call up one of your friends and make sure they still love you, ( i bet they do) and that they still want to be friends. then let everyone know that you wouldnt THINK of missing such a great concert no matter what!
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 03:17
Well, i'm that sort of person, but I'm also the sort of person that struggles with self-injury and manic depressive disorder, and the feeling isn't a good thing when you're in a depressive mood try to convince yourself it would be a really bad idea to slit your wrists.
Meh, I feel fairly confident that I will never do that. Besides having gone through a very deep depression and surviving that, as well as feeling that I never will because I will distress my friends and family too much, so I put that fear aside. So I get to enjoy it without having to worry about never coming back. But I should probably keep in mind that there are many other people not like that, so I should indeed be more cautious with my advice.
I am living in the better place. But he is down there holding all of our mutual friends hostage and I am probably never going to see half of them again, and that makes me want to cry too.
We were all supposed to go to a modest mouse concert next month, but he told me he doesnt want me to go anymore. :mad:
Now that's just disgusting. People like that need to get the shit kicked out of them every once in a while.
Cheer up.. okay:
SO the chicken and the egg are laying in bed. The Chicken lights a cigarette. The egg looks over and says "Well I guess that answers that question."
How was that? No good? Okay:
A rich woman goes into a restaurant and she sees her husband there with another woman. She storms over and says "Who the hell is this?"
"Well this is my girlfriend"
The Wife is outraged, and she demands a divorce, to which the husband responds:
"Well dear, that's fine, but I just want you to know that all the money you're throwing around town is mine, as is your expensive wardrobe, the car you drive, and the house too: I'll keep all of it."
THe wife stands there for a moment and then she notices a friend of theirs across the room, eating with a woman who isn't his wife. She says "Who the hell is Bob with?"
"Well that's his girlfriend."
"Ours is prettier."
Alright, one more:
So a black guy, a white guy, and a Mexican are walking along a beach. They find a magic lamp and, as one would expect, a genie comes out. He gives each of the three a wish. The Mexican says:
"I want all the Mexicans in America to be happy and free and back in Mexico."
So POOF, all the Mexicans are back in Mexico.
The Genie asks the black guy what he wants, and he says:
"I want all my black brothers in America to be happy and free and in Africa."
So POOF all the blacks are back in Africa.
The Genie asks the white guy what he wants, and he says:
"Do you mean to tell me that all the blacks and Mexicans are out of America?"
"Yeah."
"Well I guess I'll have a Coke than."
Cheered up yet?
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:17
Babe, then he isn't worth you're time at all then. From what I've read you seem to be a very great person... and did get some votes on the best looking people in NS... Now get your little butt off of work and go hunt down some hot person in your area code.
(maybe after a little crying and/or anger venting activity)
NO! Do not listen to this person. Instead, abandon stupid things like love.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:18
Babe, then he isn't worth you're time at all then. From what I've read you seem to be a very great person... and did get some votes on the best looking people in NS... Now get your little butt off of work and go hunt down some hot person in your area code.
(maybe after a little crying and/or anger venting activity)
I have to work for 3 and a half more hours...and its a monday...i dont think i would have much luck in my quest. maybe over the weekend...
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:20
Cheer up.. okay:
SO the chicken and the egg are laying in bed. The Chicken lights a cigarette. The egg looks over and says "Well I guess that answers that question."
How was that? No good? Okay:
A rich woman goes into a restaurant and she sees her husband there with another woman. She storms over and says "Who the hell is this?"
"Well this is my girlfriend"
The Wife is outraged, and she demands a divorce, to which the husband responds:
"Well dear, that's fine, but I just want you to know that all the money you're throwing around town is mine, as is your expensive wardrobe, the car you drive, and the house too: I'll keep all of it."
THe wife stands there for a moment and then she notices a friend of theirs across the room, eating with a woman who isn't his wife. She says "Who the hell is Bob with?"
"Well that's his girlfriend."
"Ours is prettier."
Alright, one more:
So a black guy, a white guy, and a Mexican are walking along a beach. They find a magic lamp and, as one would expect, a genie comes out. He gives each of the three a wish. The Mexican says:
"I want all the Mexicans in America to be happy and free and back in Mexico."
So POOF, all the Mexicans are back in Mexico.
The Genie asks the black guy what he wants, and he says:
"I want all my black brothers in America to be happy and free and in Africa."
So POOF all the blacks are back in Africa.
The Genie asks the white guy what he wants, and he says:
"Do you mean to tell me that all the blacks and Mexicans are out of America?"
"Yeah."
"Well I guess I'll have a Coke than."
Cheered up yet?
lol, thanks
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 03:20
Well, whatever you do you can now remove one factor from the equation. Do what you want, what will be best for you in the long run. It should be easier to decide now.
here, here... I totally agree
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:20
LISTEN TO ME WOMAN! LOVE=EVIL. Abandon it, and enjoy freedom from its shackles!
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:22
here, here... I totally agree
I know. I know that I should be all like "YAY ME!" and go get a massage and a facial and stuff. But I suck at that stuff. I wish I had someone here to hug me and cuddle up with me. I hate being alone. I hate it.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:25
Listen, please. You do not need someone to hug and cuddle you. True happiness comes from independence. If you still yearn for companionship, you'll just get caught in the same trap again.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:26
Listen, please. You do not need someone to hug and cuddle you. True happiness comes from independence. If you still yearn for companionship, you'll just get caught in the same trap again.
Yeah but i want to get married and make babies.
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 03:26
I know. I know that I should be all like "YAY ME!" and go get a massage and a facial and stuff. But I suck at that stuff. I wish I had someone here to hug me and cuddle up with me. I hate being alone. I hate it.
Must resist....
Nope, can't do it. *hugs*
EDIT: But I must agree with Armandian Cheese on this one.
Ashmoria
25-01-2005, 03:28
dont you have a girl friend you can call up? one who knows him too so she can tell you how she always thought he wasnt good enough for you? it does such being alone when you have been rejected, you need someone who KNOWS you to tell you how great you are and how much he sucks.
and he DOES suck
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:30
dont you have a girl friend you can call up? one who knows him too so she can tell you how she always thought he wasnt good enough for you? it does such being alone when you have been rejected, you need someone who KNOWS you to tell you how great you are and how much he sucks.
and he DOES suck
I got off the phone with him....and then i called this guy i work with who likes me...and i was hysterical....and then i called my roommate nicole....and i was hysterical....and so she came over with her boyfriend and another one of our friends.
no offense to my roommate and everything....but spending last night watching a movie with her and her boyfriend hanging all over each other....was not exactly the thing to cheer me up.
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 03:31
I would just like to establish that no-one should listen to Armandian Cheese. He believes that sex is evil and wrong, so just ignore his spasms.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:33
So kind of you, Gnostikos. Just trying to help this poor girl from being used yet again.
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 03:33
I would just like to establish that no-one should listen to Armandian Cheese. He believes that sex is evil and wrong, so just ignore his spasms.
Well, I know that I don't agree with Armandian Cheese on an awful lot of things. However, I do agree that another boy is not what she needs right now.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:33
Yeah but i want to get married and make babies.
Why? The little bastards are so irritating...
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:34
Well, I know that I don't agree with Armandian Cheese on an awful lot of things. However, I do agree that another boy is not what she needs right now.
I think its exactly what i need. lol. :rolleyes:
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 03:34
NO! Do not listen to this person. Instead, abandon stupid things like love.
Dude, settle... I should have recommended the anger first and the finding someone else at on a much later, when she's ready, time.
Mistress Kimberly, let some crying out and don't hold back any anger that might start coming out.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:35
Well, I know that I don't agree with Armandian Cheese on an awful lot of things. However, I do agree that another boy is not what she needs right now.
What, you suggesting she turn lesbian? Just kidding, there. Still, she should turn to friends, who are far more reliable than lovers. Why? Because a friend will be your friend because they enjoy your company, while a lover may simply be there to gain certain "favors"...
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:36
I think its exactly what i need. lol. :rolleyes:
Don't do it! You're already too vulnerable emotionally now, and you'll just fall into the arms of some guy who "knows the right words." You'll get caught in the same trap, madam.
Santa Barbara
25-01-2005, 03:37
Chocolate is the answer.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:37
Dude, settle... I should have recommended the anger first and the finding someone else at on a much later, when she's ready, time.
Mistress Kimberly, let some crying out and don't hold back any anger that might start coming out.
I just want to drive down there and beat the crap out of him. I really do. The problem is he outweighs me by like 180 pounds and he has a 8 inch height advantage. But I could at least kick him in the junk.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:38
I just want to drive down there and beat the crap out of him. I really do. The problem is he outweighs me by like 180 pounds and he has a 8 inch height advantage. But I could at least kick him in the junk.
Well, I would help, if I was any where near you. But, just gather a posse, beat him up, and take the ipod back.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:39
Well, I would help, if I was any where near you. But, just gather a posse, beat him up, and take the ipod back.
i never even got the ipod. he was supposed to help me pay for it this coming weekend.....not gonna happen.
East Coast Federation
25-01-2005, 03:40
I feel sorry for you MK.
But the fact of the matter is, if he was that much of an asshole then staying with him would have only been a bad thing.
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 03:42
I know. I know that I should be all like "YAY ME!" and go get a massage and a facial and stuff. But I suck at that stuff. I wish I had someone here to hug me and cuddle up with me. I hate being alone. I hate it.
Massages and facials just make you think of the people that aren't touching you. Go do some kick boxing or get some excersise and get some good endorphis going from you own body.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:43
Massages and facials just make you think of the people that aren't touching you. Go do some kick boxing or get some excersise and get some good endorphis going from you own body.
I had been planning on starting to work out again....I guess this would be a good reason.
I just want to drive down there and beat the crap out of him. I really do. The problem is he outweighs me by like 180 pounds and he has a 8 inch height advantage. But I could at least kick him in the junk.
Nono, this is where you use your feminine wiles to get someone bigger than him to beat the crap out of him. Surely you must have some handy friends that are large and willing to harm others for your wellbeing?
Seriously though? My advice is to socialise with as many people as possible. Not including his friends, or friends you share with him. Take the opportunity to rant about how angry you are and how much you want to cause grievous bodily harm to him - if they're good friends (and not friends of his), they'll nod and smile and come up with some good ideas of their own as to torture methods. Just being able to rant would probably help.
And I agree with whoever said chocolate. Comfort food is your friend.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:45
Nono, this is where you use your feminine wiles to get someone bigger than him to beat the crap out of him. Surely you must have some handy friends that are large and willing to harm others for your wellbeing?
Seriously though? My advice is to socialise with as many people as possible. Not including his friends, or friends you share with him. Take the opportunity to rant about how angry you are and how much you want to cause grievous bodily harm to him - if they're good friends (and not friends of his), they'll nod and smile and come up with some good ideas of their own as to torture methods. Just being able to rant would probably help.
And I agree with whoever said chocolate. Comfort food is your friend.
Thanks.
It just sucks I moved up here, because I only know so many people up here. I feel like I am stranded or something.
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 03:46
Nono, this is where you use your feminine wiles to get someone bigger than him to beat the crap out of him. Surely you must have some handy friends that are large and willing to harm others for your wellbeing?
Seriously though? My advice is to socialise with as many people as possible. Not including his friends, or friends you share with him. Take the opportunity to rant about how angry you are and how much you want to cause grievous bodily harm to him - if they're good friends (and not friends of his), they'll nod and smile and come up with some good ideas of their own as to torture methods. Just being able to rant would probably help.
And I agree with whoever said chocolate. Comfort food is your friend.
Remind me not to dump you.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:49
Ah, looks like we have all come to agreement then.
1. Violent Vengeance
2. Chocolate
3. Stay away from romantic relationships (Well, most would say to have this be temporary, but I say that you must avoid love...FOREVER!)
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 03:50
I just want to drive down there and beat the crap out of him. I really do. The problem is he outweighs me by like 180 pounds and he has a 8 inch height advantage. But I could at least kick him in the junk.
Go buy a one of those plastic boxing dumbies after work, get some very clear pictures of him in your head and beat the shit out of it.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:51
I think chocolate and crying are sounding like the best plan as of right now.
Remind me not to dump you.
Oh, I don't get dumped. Mainly because I'm avoiding relationships like the plague, but also because there are much more... satisfactory, ways to end a relationship.
Hell, you might get lucky and get set up with an attractive friend of mine, without having to go through any formal 'break-up' process with me at all.
That was some of my greatest work, I think.
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 03:52
I had been planning on starting to work out again....I guess this would be a good reason.
It would be an excellent reason. :) making yourself feel good is always a good reason.
Armed Bookworms
25-01-2005, 03:52
So after two years, one month, and twenty-one days, my boyfriend broke up with me yesterday. I feel like complete poo.
Please cheer me up, because I am stuck alone at work, and I don't want to be sitting here crying. :(
Hmmm, go to your local big bookstore and buy either Interesting Times* or The Lost Continent*. What happens to Rincewind is bound to cheer you up. :)
*Both by Terry Pratchett
I think chocolate and crying are sounding like the best plan as of right now.
Awwww. *hugs and offers virtual chocolate*.
If you're going to, make sure you give yourself lots of time - tyr and get most of the crying out of your system in one sitting. Because having to wander around in public crying is annoying.
Bah, I can't believe I know that from experience >.<
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:55
I cried a lot last night. But then like little random things will get said to me or something...and I just start all over again.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 03:57
I cried a lot last night. But then like little random things will get said to me or something...and I just start all over again.
Grr. I hate it when things like that happen, when you think you're over it and then someone says something and you think back and end up with your head on the table crying some more.
I never found a way to deal with that, personally. Anybody have any ideas?
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:57
Don't cry! You are better off without love!
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 03:58
I have to do some actual work-related work now. I will be back in like 25-30 minutes. :)
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 03:59
See? You can be free of stupid things like love! Work, climb the corporate ladder, and achieve your destiny! MUA! HA! HA!
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 04:00
I have to do some actual work-related work now. I will be back in like 25-30 minutes. :)
Hope you can keep it together and get done what you need to do.
Hang in there, sister!
:)
Isselmere
25-01-2005, 04:01
Think of this: at least you didn't marry the little shit. Two years in a relationship is better than however-long to life. Chocolate, some decent music (whatever's your favourite), and exercise are certainly the best options--the first and the last will make you feel better, and the middle one should get out some nervous energy, or at least all the tears.
Best wishes and I hope you suffer no further from little twits like your ex.
Grr. I hate it when things like that happen, when you think you're over it and then someone says something and you think back and end up with your head on the table crying some more.
I never found a way to deal with that, personally. Anybody have any ideas?
I pretty much just cut one guy out of my life completely. Not literally, unfortunately, but it was an effective technique nonetheless.
After a while, all the annoying little things go away, or the triggers get associated with different memories.
The best thing to do is socialise, so that you haven't got as much time to sit around moping (and before anyone gets annoyed, I spent almost three goddamned years moping. I think I'm allowed to tell people that moping is bad).
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 04:03
Just forget love entirely! That way you can't mope!
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 04:07
I pretty much just cut one guy out of my life completely. Not literally, unfortunately, but it was an effective technique nonetheless.
After a while, all the annoying little things go away, or the triggers get associated with different memories.
The best thing to do is socialise, so that you haven't got as much time to sit around moping (and before anyone gets annoyed, I spent almost three goddamned years moping. I think I'm allowed to tell people that moping is bad).
Doesn't work for me. I still have 99% of the triggers for a girl I dated 4 years ago, and we only dated for 4 months.
EDIT: I tend to treat them more sentimentally, though.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 04:07
Just forget love entirely! That way you can't mope!
Err, no, you can do a pretty good job of moping about depressedly without love.
Just forget love entirely! That way you can't mope!
Ah but you see, I'm a Taurus. And half Italian, half Irish. So even if I get rid of love entirerly, I'm still stuck with a serious case of lust. And being a girl, I can't just go around having sex with anything that moves. Only guys get to do that without getting an overall bad reputation. So I'll need a relationship to cover that part of life, so I can avoid going mad.
And since I'll need a relationship anyway, I might as well have one that involves someone smart and evil, and doesn't revolve around sex but rather around me being in awe of them.
If only there were more smart evil people around. mutter.
Doesn't work for me. I still have 99% of the triggers for a girl I dated 4 years ago, and we only dated for 4 months.
EDIT: I tend to treat them more sentimentally, though.
Hrm. I guess different things work for different people.
On the other hand, I used excess rage to burn off most of the triggered associations. It's amazing what a good dose of seething hatred can fix.
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 04:12
I think chocolate and crying are sounding like the best plan as of right now.
Well if you start feeling antsy, don't discount the excersise or actually feeling angry. ;)
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 04:14
Hrm. I guess different things work for different people.
On the other hand, I used excess rage to burn off most of the triggered associations. It's amazing what a good dose of seething hatred can fix.
She's one of those people who's impossible to hate. It's rather unfortunate, since I still think about her almost daily. There was a while that I didn't think about her much, but I'm not convinced that it will ever go away.
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 04:29
Hrm. I guess different things work for different people.
On the other hand, I used excess rage to burn off most of the triggered associations. It's amazing what a good dose of seething hatred can fix.
Or you can tell them exactly how he broke up with you, factually as you have with us and feel the satisfaction of them saying... what a jerk! (those are the ones you want to keep around)
She's one of those people who's impossible to hate. It's rather unfortunate, since I still think about her almost daily. There was a while that I didn't think about her much, but I'm not convinced that it will ever go away.
Heh, you and me both. I don't know how old everyone else is, but Im in high school. She was the first girl I ever felt that strongly about and the only girl I had ever had any intention of asking out. When I tried, she told me she liked my best friend and I kinda hit the mental fan for the rest of the school year.
Anyway, best of luck to MK. I can't begin to imagine how the female mind works, but I'll vote for chocolate. The imported stuff from Switzerland or Belgium. And friends. Friends are the best.
Cheers
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 04:34
Its just like...I seriously thought this was it. I really thought we were going to be together forever. We didn't fight with each other, we got along awesome...and we trusted each other. It is really hard for me to be able to trust people (due to some bad shit in my past), so it just sucks I have to start my search for the perfect guy all over again. He was the perfect guy, he just didn't love me back.
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 04:34
So after two years, one month, and twenty-one days, my boyfriend broke up with me yesterday. I feel like complete poo.
Please cheer me up, because I am stuck alone at work, and I don't want to be sitting here crying. :(
Ohhhh... Shit.... I'm sorry to hear that :(
Maybe a fluffle may cheer you up?
And I swear I have some sort of sixth sense, almost like I knew something like this were to happen... :hmm:
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 04:36
Ohhhh... Shit.... I'm sorry to hear that :(
Maybe a fluffle may cheer you up?
And I swear I have some sort of sixth sense, almost like I knew something like this were to happen... :hmm:
You knew this was going to happen, huh?
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 04:39
You knew this was going to happen, huh?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be mean or creepy in any way.
It's just this... gut feeling I got the other day when you said you were going somewhere?
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 04:40
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be mean or creepy in any way.
It's just this... gut feeling I got the other day when you said you were going somewhere?
When I said I was going to Ames next weekend?
Too bad I don't get to go anymore.
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 04:44
When I said I was going to Ames next weekend?
Too bad I don't get to go anymore.
I thought it was this weekend... hmm... I probably mis-read your post. Sorry about that.
Hopefully, this will help cheer you up (if you haven't gotten too many of them already ;) )
:fluffle:
She's one of those people who's impossible to hate. It's rather unfortunate, since I still think about her almost daily. There was a while that I didn't think about her much, but I'm not convinced that it will ever go away.
Meh. I still love him. I've just discovered that love and hate aren't mutually exclusive.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 04:48
I thought it was this weekend... hmm... I probably mis-read your post. Sorry about that.
Hopefully, this will help cheer you up (if you haven't gotten too many of them already ;) )
:fluffle:
Thanks. :fluffle:
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 04:49
Thanks. :fluffle:
You're welcome :)
Norleans
25-01-2005, 05:03
Succes is the best revenge!
It takes longer maybe, but, just as an example:
I was fired from a job by a jerk of a boss for no good reason, I decided I was going to go back to school and become a lawyer, so I did. 8 years later, the man who fired me, applied for a job with my law firm. I laughed as I wrote the properly worded "don't call us, we'll call you" letter and I still laugh today.
So go hook up with the "right" guy and forget the jerk! Until he sees you on the society page and kicks his own ass for dumping you.
Until then, Many :fluffle:
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 05:17
Hey MK, I don't suppose you're watching Channel 11 news? They just reported that Jan. 24 is statistically the most depressing day of the year for people. Congratulations.
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 05:20
Hey MK, I don't suppose you're watching Channel 11 news? They just reported that Jan. 24 is statistically the most depressing day of the year for people. Congratulations.
I heard that too.
Guess what?
They were right, it's affected me as well.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:23
Succes is the best revenge!
It takes longer maybe, but, just as an example:
I was fired from a job by a jerk of a boss for no good reason, I decided I was going to go back to school and become a lawyer, so I did. 8 years later, the man who fired me, applied for a job with my law firm. I laughed as I wrote the properly worded "don't call us, we'll call you" letter and I still laugh today.
So go hook up with the "right" guy and forget the jerk! Until he sees you on the society page and kicks his own ass for dumping you.
Until then, Many :fluffle:
Thats funny.
Thank you for the fluffle.
Norleans
25-01-2005, 05:25
Thats funny.
Thank you for the fluffle.
glad I made you smile. You're welcome for the fluffle.
Johnistan
25-01-2005, 05:26
So after two years, one month, and twenty-one days, my boyfriend broke up with me yesterday. I feel like complete poo.
Please cheer me up, because I am stuck alone at work, and I don't want to be sitting here crying. :(
That unworthy piss of shit doesn't deserve a woman as beautiful and wonderful as you.
Does that work?
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:26
Ah but you see, I'm a Taurus. And half Italian, half Irish. So even if I get rid of love entirerly, I'm still stuck with a serious case of lust. And being a girl, I can't just go around having sex with anything that moves. Only guys get to do that without getting an overall bad reputation. So I'll need a relationship to cover that part of life, so I can avoid going mad.
And since I'll need a relationship anyway, I might as well have one that involves someone smart and evil, and doesn't revolve around sex but rather around me being in awe of them.
If only there were more smart evil people around. mutter.
Ah, but you only have to be rid of your sexual lust then! I've done it! I lust for no woman (or man, for that matter).
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:28
Hey MK, I don't suppose you're watching Channel 11 news? They just reported that Jan. 24 is statistically the most depressing day of the year for people. Congratulations.
I missed that!
Well I guess that means that statistically things should be better tomorrow, right?
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:30
That unworthy piss of shit doesn't deserve a woman as beautiful and wonderful as you.
Does that work?
Lol, that works
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 05:30
I missed that!
Well I guess that means that statistically things should be better tomorrow, right?
They'd better be.
*Cracks knuckles* :D
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:31
That unworthy piss of shit doesn't deserve a woman as beautiful and wonderful as you.
Does that work?
Well, the guy is obviously an unworthy shit, and she seems to be a wonderful person, but isn't calling someone who you've never seen in your life beautiful empty flattery?
Ah, but you only have to be rid of your sexual lust then! I've done it! I lust for no woman (or man, for that matter).
I quite like my lust. It's pretty much the only thing that keeps working no matter how little food/sleep I've had.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 05:32
Well, the guy is obviously an unworthy shit, and she seems to be a wonderful person, but isn't calling someone who you've never seen in your life beautiful empty flattery?
Well, there *is* the picture that she put up on the pisture thread.
I believe she was even in the "Most Beautiful Woman on NS" contest, if memory srves me correctly.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:32
Gah! But sex is such a filthy, worthless, and disgusting thing! Why need it? It simply distracts from the true fulfillment.
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 05:32
I missed that!
Well I guess that means that statistically things should be better tomorrow, right?
Yes, I do believe so. It can't be worse.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 05:33
Gah! But sex is such a filthy, worthless, and disgusting thing! Why need it? It simply distracts from the true fulfillment.
Hey, New Anthrus has a whole thread on this somewhere.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:33
Well, there *is* the picture that she put up on the pisture thread.
I believe she was even in the "Most Beautiful Woman on NS" contest, if memory srves me correctly.
Memory serves you correctly, although I came nowhere close to winning.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:34
They'd better be.
*Cracks knuckles* :D
Yeah...I'll be coming after you to go beat up my problems for me if tomorrow isn't better, lol.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:34
Well, there *is* the picture that she put up on the pisture thread.
I believe she was even in the "Most Beautiful Woman on NS" contest, if memory srves me correctly.
Ah. Well, honestly, I would never put a picture of myself on the web, especially if I was attractive in any way. (Thankfully, I was blessed by the Lord with an ugly mug) Tends to attract the freaks. Especially if she's going to notify the whole world that she just got dumped, and wants another guy...
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 05:35
Memory serves you correctly, although I came nowhere close to winning.
You did a lot better than I did.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:36
Ah. Well, honestly, I would never put a picture of myself on the web, especially if I was attractive in any way. (Thankfully, I was blessed by the Lord with an ugly mug) Tends to attract the freaks. Especially if she's going to notify the whole world that she just got dumped, and wants another guy...
I hate the word dumped. It makes it sound like I got thrown on top of a trash heap.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:36
Hey, New Anthrus has a whole thread on this somewhere.
Yes, he and I were the "Dynamic Duo" over there, battling against every other human being in existance. On the first "ban sex" thread anyway. He started a 2nd one, but it's devolved into the same thing, really.
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 05:36
Yeah...I'll be coming after you to go beat up my problems for me if tomorrow isn't better, lol.
lol. I wouldn't stand a chance: i'm 100 pounds at 5'2, so I'd snap like a twig in an instant. :D
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:37
I hate the word dumped. It makes it sound like I got thrown on top of a trash heap.
Sorry. What word do you prefer? "Relationship-ally Challenged?"
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:38
Sorry. What word do you prefer? "Relationship-ally Challenged?"
Ugh. I don't know. "Broken up with."
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:42
How about "Brutally betrayed by both the person she thought she could trust the most, and the very emotion that is love"?
Johnistan
25-01-2005, 05:43
Well, the guy is obviously an unworthy shit, and she seems to be a wonderful person, but isn't calling someone who you've never seen in your life beautiful empty flattery?
Uhhh....no...it's like...she's so beautiful I can sense it from here...yeah thats it.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:43
I want to go to my car and get my cds but i can't....ugh. The song "Love is only a feeling" by The Darkness would be so awesome right now.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:44
Quick, my "Beauty Senses" are tingling!
Johnistan
25-01-2005, 05:45
I want to go to my car and get my cds but i can't....ugh. The song "Love is only a feeling" by The Darkness would be so awesome right now.
Yes, that would be awesome. Clearly you should do that.
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 05:46
I want to go to my car and get my cds but i can't....ugh.
Why not?
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:51
Because my car is kinda far away....I will wait a little bit longer, cuz I need to go wander around at 11:00 anyway
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:51
Good song, shows that love is merely a stupid, useless emotion.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 05:53
Because my car is kinda far away....I will wait a little bit longer, cuz I need to go wander around at 11:00 anyway
If you have a fast internet connection, www.epitonic.com has loads of free music. Some of it is pretty good, although I don't have any specific examples of good happy music that come to mind at the moment.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:53
Because my car is kinda far away....I will wait a little bit longer, cuz I need to go wander around at 11:00 anyway
Wander? With a knife and a gun perhaps? And maybe wander into your ex's house...And maybe your ex will mysteriously end up as a splotch on the ceiling...
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:56
Wander? With a knife and a gun perhaps? And maybe wander into your ex's house...And maybe your ex will mysteriously end up as a splotch on the ceiling...
Wandering to my ex's house would take awhile. He lives 3 hours south of me on the interstate.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 05:57
I found a video for the song...that means i can listen to it over and over until i go home in an hour, lol.
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 05:57
Hmmm...Well, maybe you could hack a military satellite, and it would "accidentally" access a nuclear missile silo, which would "accidentally" fire a thermonuclear missile at your ex...
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 06:05
Hmmm...Well, maybe you could hack a military satellite, and it would "accidentally" access a nuclear missile silo, which would "accidentally" fire a thermonuclear missile at your ex...
Pah! Advanced Plutonian technology can do far better than that :D
Armandian Cheese
25-01-2005, 06:06
Like? What, gonna whip out a plasma cannon?
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 06:09
Like? What, gonna whip out a plasma cannon?
No, we have PlutoCons and Chronoscepters, rendering us practically invincible by modern standards.
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 06:11
Speaking of tangents.... I could sure go for some math right about now....
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 06:11
Good song, shows that love is merely a stupid, useless emotion.
You only think that because you've never experienced it. Either that or had a bad experience with it, I don't remember what you said your love life has comprised of. But I used to think something similar--but guess what? Seeing is believing, and I became a convert, sure as hell.
Bitchkitten
25-01-2005, 06:19
thats it....my uncle works at md anderson and my aunt works at memorial hermann. thanks.
Me and my brothers were born at Hermann Memorial. I'm sure the Dr. that delivered us has died of old age.
Ha ha! I thought "need some mental support" was a question. I thought *Boy do I*
So sorry. I had a boyfriend who broke up with me on the phone. While I was at work! The next time I saw him I told him what a sorry coward he was. :(
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 06:24
Me and my brothers were born at Hermann Memorial. I'm sure the Dr. that delivered us has died of old age.
Ha ha! I thought "need some mental support" was a question. I thought *Boy do I*
So sorry. I had a boyfriend who broke up with me on the phone. While I was at work! The next time I saw him I told him what a sorry coward he was. :(
It just makes me wonder if I even am going to see him again...I don't really have any other reason to go to Ames..... :(
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 06:33
Another thing quick too....he told me to call him later to talk some more. When I tried calling him, he did not answer. So I texted him and asked if he would mail me my dvds i left there. He replied "yes."
I haven't tried calling him yet today. Do you think I should? I kinda wanna yell at him, lol.
Pythagosaurus
25-01-2005, 06:37
Another thing quick too....he told me to call him later to talk some more. When I tried calling him, he did not answer. So I texted him and asked if he would mail me my dvds i left there. He replied "yes."
I haven't tried calling him yet today. Do you think I should? I kinda wanna yell at him, lol.
I think it's best to wait a few days.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 06:39
Alrighty....almost time for me to leave work. Have a good night everyone...thank you for your advice and kind words.
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
So after two years, one month, and twenty-one days, my boyfriend broke up with me yesterday. I feel like complete poo.
Please cheer me up, because I am stuck alone at work, and I don't want to be sitting here crying. :(
I am so sorry. *hugs MK* Wish I could help somehow. I mean that.
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 06:45
Alrighty....almost time for me to leave work. Have a good night everyone...thank you for your advice and kind words.
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
Don't you post here from your home?
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 06:46
I think it's best to wait a few days.
...and find something to take your aggression out on.
Ludite Commies
25-01-2005, 06:47
You know whats good for that? Heroin.
I'm kidding, of course. It's what I say everytime something sucks. Not realizing that not everyone understands that I'm joking has gotten me in trouble more than once.....
lol, you know where that motto would be really funny?
Man 1: Dude, I'm really bummed out.
Man 2: Dude, why, dude?
1: Like, my boss is gonna make me take a drug test tomorrow.
2: Yeah, dude. That sucks. You know whats good for that? Heroin.
1: Right on dude... WAIT, its a Drug Test, man. I'd get busted.
2: Sure dude, getting busted sucks. You know whats good for that? Heroin.
Or something along those lines. :)
Out On A Limb
25-01-2005, 06:49
...and find something to take your aggression out on.
Like a punching bag... not anything alive or someone else's property...
(well possibly his, but that's not the best idea)
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 06:52
I haven't tried calling him yet today. Do you think I should? I kinda wanna yell at him, lol.
Though you're gone, if you read this later, don't yell too much. Try and see if there is any logical way to explain his actions. Find out why he broke up with you so rudely and curtly. If he turns out to continue being jerky, then yell at him until he hangs up!
Armed Bookworms
25-01-2005, 07:25
I want to go to my car and get my cds but i can't....ugh. The song "Love is only a feeling" by The Darkness would be so awesome right now.
If you have a close friend/group of friends get a p2p client, download Fall Back Down by Rancid, and then go cry on their shoulder(s). You'll feel much better.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 23:37
I talked to him for a few minutes today. It was....ok I guess. I'm just still sad.
On a happier note...a male friend of mine that I have not seen for months started texting me this morning, and we ended up talking for like 20 minutes or so. I asked him if he was going to this winter celebration in NW IA where his parents have a summer house, and he said yes him and some friends were going, and he said I should go (my parents live in the area). So I am going to go down there this weekend with my roommate, and hang out with him. Yay. :)
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2005, 23:39
That's good to hear! :)
*Thumbs up*
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 23:40
I talked to him for a few minutes today. It was....ok I guess. I'm just still sad.
:( Did you learn anything new?
On a happier note...a male friend of mine that I have not seen for months started texting me this morning, and we ended up talking for like 20 minutes or so. I asked him if he was going to this winter celebration in NW IA where his parents have a summer house, and he said yes him and some friends were going, and he said I should go (my parents live in the area). So I am going to go down there this weekend with my roommate, and hang out with him. Yay. :)
That's good! Just because one male doesn't like you does not mean that you shouldn't be liked! You need to realise that emotionally.
Bitchkitten
25-01-2005, 23:41
I talked to him for a few minutes today. It was....ok I guess. I'm just still sad.
On a happier note...a male friend of mine that I have not seen for months started texting me this morning, and we ended up talking for like 20 minutes or so. I asked him if he was going to this winter celebration in NW IA where his parents have a summer house, and he said yes him and some friends were going, and he said I should go (my parents live in the area). So I am going to go down there this weekend with my roommate, and hang out with him. Yay. :)
Yay! Nothing helps those "I feel worthless 'coz I just got dumped" blues like someone else showing a little interest. :fluffle:
Eutrusca
25-01-2005, 23:45
Yay! Nothing helps those "I feel worthless 'coz I just got dumped" blues like someone else showing a little interest. :fluffle:
Really? :D
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 23:46
Yeah it makes me happy....he was really nice over the phone and everything. He knows my ex and everything (this guy used to be my ex's boss before he moved), so he kinda understands where I am coming from.
Ex apologized for breaking up over the phone, admitted it was "the pussy thing to do," but said he didn't want me to drive 6 hours (3 there and 3 back) just to get broken up with. He also isn't seeing anyone else (like i was worried about), because I made a comment about me not getting to go to the concert, and he said I could still go it would just be weird. I said, "I don't want to go if you are taking someone else anyway." And he said he didn't have anyone else to take. So....yeah. I don't know. And apparently when he mails me my movies, he is also going to send me a check to put towards my ipod purchase. :p
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 23:48
And apparently when he mails me my movies, he is also going to send me a check to put towards my ipod purchase.
Then it seems to me that he really just can't cope with the long distance relationship, and needs to go and get involved with a girlfriend that he is near, because that seems to cancel out the idea that he's a jerk.
Mistress Kimberly
25-01-2005, 23:50
Then it seems to me that he really just can't cope with the long distance relationship, and needs to go and get involved with a girlfriend that he is near, because that seems to cancel out the idea that he's a jerk.
It just sucks because I think if i was there it would work....ya know.
Bitchkitten
25-01-2005, 23:56
Really? :D
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
:D Flirt!
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 23:58
It just sucks because I think if i was there it would work....ya know.
Yeah, it really does. He probably just doesn't have the patience to wait long enough for you to return.
Mistress Kimberly
26-01-2005, 00:19
Yeah, it really does. He probably just doesn't have the patience to wait long enough for you to return.
Darn men and their lack of patience.
Tonight my mission is to call my mom and tell her. *dreading "I told you so" speech* :rolleyes:
Mistress Kimberly
26-01-2005, 04:41
updating....talked to my mom....it went ok....but i didnt really give her much of a chance to lecture, lol.
Armandian Cheese
26-01-2005, 04:47
Now you're going for yet another love? Forget it, you're lost to the anti-love cause...
Mistress Kimberly
26-01-2005, 04:49
Now you're going for yet another love? Forget it, you're lost to the anti-love cause...
He isn't a love. He is just a friend.
Gnostikos
26-01-2005, 06:07
Now you're going for yet another love? Forget it, you're lost to the anti-love cause...
So is everyone but New Anthrus.
Neo-Anarchists
26-01-2005, 06:09
Now you're going for yet another love? Forget it, you're lost to the anti-love cause...
Does that mean you'll stop trying to convert her?
:)
Armandian Cheese
26-01-2005, 06:15
NEVER! Now, that she has stated he is just a friend, there is still HOPE!
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 06:17
NEVER! Now, that she has stated he is just a friend, there is still HOPE!
Dude, enough. Leave this poor girl alone.
Armandian Cheese
26-01-2005, 06:20
I'm trying to help her abandon love. It's not like I'm some freak trying to hit on her.
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 06:21
It's not like I'm some freak trying to hit on her.
That's not what I meant.
Mistress Kimberly
26-01-2005, 06:23
He meant stop trying to make me give up on love.
Armandian Cheese
26-01-2005, 06:24
Yeah, I know, but I'm only trying to help.
Pythagosaurus
26-01-2005, 06:25
You guys crack me up.
How are you feeling, MK?
Mistress Kimberly
26-01-2005, 06:26
You guys crack me up.
How are you feeling, MK?
Better now that I have plans for this weekend.
Armandian Cheese
26-01-2005, 06:26
A lot better without a boyfriend! Ha, and she'll feel far better if she gives up on trying to find another...
Nation of Fortune
26-01-2005, 06:28
A lot better without a boyfriend! Ha, and she'll feel far better if she gives up on trying to find another...
dude, shut up and get yourself a girlfriend before you diss it, or did she break up with you because you suck
Armandian Cheese
26-01-2005, 06:30
I do suck, but no, I have never had a girlfriend. I was actually given quite a few offers, but have refused them all.
Nation of Fortune
26-01-2005, 06:31
I do suck, but no, I have never had a girlfriend. I was actually given quite a few offers, but have refused them all.
then at least see how meaningfull a relationship can be, before you go out and say stupid stuff like that
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 06:32
I do suck, but no, I have never had a girlfriend. I was actually given quite a few offers, but have refused them all.
WHYYYYY???
Why do you refuse????
:D
Armandian Cheese
26-01-2005, 06:33
I hate love, sex, yadda yadda.
Armandian Cheese
26-01-2005, 06:35
then at least see how meaningfull a relationship can be, before you go out and say stupid stuff like that
Meaningful? How? So I can get crushed and betrayed, like poor Kimberly here? Or perform disgusting things like sex? Or waste my life and brains for romance? No thank you.
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 06:35
I hate love, sex, yadda yadda.
You seem bitter about something... :hmm:
Kiwicrog
26-01-2005, 06:37
I hate love, sex, yadda yadda. Lol, how old are you?
Mistress Kimberly
26-01-2005, 06:39
Sex is not disgusting. Sex is glorious. It is my favorite activity.
Nation of Fortune
26-01-2005, 06:39
Meaningful? How? So I can get crushed and betrayed, like poor Kimberly here? Or perform disgusting things like sex? Or waste my life and brains for romance? No thank you.
it's not the down that matters, that is easy to get over, it's what you do when in that relationship, that means alot, in a week or two Kimberly will be over it entirely, and feel like a million bucks. I get you don't like sex and all, but if you a relationship a shot you could see what it feels like to be cared about by someone else. Trust me, It's the best feeling in the world.
Pythagosaurus
26-01-2005, 06:41
Actually, Armandian Cheese may have quite a gift. With the added focus that his lack of a libido provides him, he could far exceed the average human's productivity. It might even make up for his inherent disadvantage. 8)
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 06:43
Actually, Armandian Cheese may have quite a gift. With the added focus that his lack of a libido provides him, he could far exceed the average human's productivity. It might even make up for his inherent disadvantage. 8)
Not to troll or flame or anything...
I bet he'll probably end up trashing it all by murdering some poor girl who actively seeks him out :(
Nation of Fortune
26-01-2005, 06:46
Not to troll or flame or anything...
I bet he'll probably end up trashing it all by murdering some poor girl who actively seeks him out :(
he doesn't seem like a murderer, but then again do I? I would, but I've never really been provoked
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 06:47
he doesn't seem like a murderer, but then again do I?
Your location gives you away :D ;) (j/k)
Nation of Fortune
26-01-2005, 06:48
Your location gives you away :D ;) (j/k)
*click*
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 06:51
*click*
*Bullet richochets off energy shield protecting TPE* :D
Nation of Fortune
26-01-2005, 06:52
*Bullet richochets off energy shield protecting TPE* :D
damned misfire! Drat!
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 06:56
damned misfire! Drat!
*PlutoCon flies overhead and drops a nuclear bomb*
Neo-Anarchists
26-01-2005, 06:59
*PlutoCon flies overhead and drops a nuclear bomb*
OMG WTF!!?!?!1/!1?!
YUO 4RE TEH 3V1L G0DMODER!!!eleven!1
Nation of Fortune
26-01-2005, 07:00
puts on..... his......nuke.....proof .........cloak.........???????????
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 07:02
OMG WTF!!?!?!1/!1?!
YUO 4RE TEH 3V1L G0DMODER!!!eleven!1
I'm sorry, but those words are all Greek to me :D
Pythagosaurus
26-01-2005, 07:04
puts on..... his......nuke.....proof .........cloak.........???????????
I believe RV is the word you were looking for.
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2005, 07:05
*Nuke turns out to be a Nuclear Ice Bomb*
--CRRRAAAAACCKKKA-BOOOOOOOMMMmmm....
*Everything within 1000 miles superfrozen*
Kiwicrog
26-01-2005, 07:06
*Waits for Mod to bring out the Spammer-Prod* ;)
Gnostikos
26-01-2005, 07:07
*Nuke turns out to be a Nuclear Ice Bomb*
--CRRRAAAAACCKKKA-BOOOOOOOMMMmmm....
*Everything within 1000 miles superfrozen*
Having fun? :p
Nation of Fortune
26-01-2005, 07:08
*Nuke turns out to be a Nuclear Ice Bomb*
--CRRRAAAAACCKKKA-BOOOOOOOMMMmmm....
*Everything within 1000 miles superfrozen*
including yourself, your dead, as well as my robot
now, back on subject
Pythagosaurus
26-01-2005, 07:08
I think I preferred being "Quite Deadly".
Nation of Fortune
26-01-2005, 07:09
I think I preferred being "Quite Deadly".
now that is spam, my friend
Pythagosaurus
26-01-2005, 07:11
now that is spam, my friend
No, I was serious. It needed to be said somewhere. A thread about mental health seemed like the appropriate place.
Mistress Kimberly
26-01-2005, 23:44
I think I preferred being "Quite Deadly".
I like being quite deadly.
Armandian Cheese
27-01-2005, 01:41
Alright, to answer a few points. First, I think Mistress Kimberly would be far better off giving up love and sex. Why? It simply drains away reasonable thought. After all, did she not spend time crying? Waste of time if you ask me. Love gives you no benefit, and wastes time!
Ah, and I'm not going to kill anyone. If a girl seeks me out (which I doubt, due to my inherent ugliness), and won't go away, I'll just slap a restraining order on her.
The Plutonian Empire
27-01-2005, 01:51
Alright, to answer a few points. First, I think Mistress Kimberly would be far better off giving up love and sex.
I don't think she ever will. All you can do is just voice your opinions.
Why? It simply drains away reasonable thought. After all, did she not spend time crying? Waste of time if you ask me. Love gives you no benefit, and wastes time!
I seriously doubt that.
Ah, and I'm not going to kill anyone. If a girl seeks me out (which I doubt, due to my inherent ugliness), and won't go away, I'll just slap a restraining order on her.
Still, keep away from kitchen knives. Just in case :D (j/k ;) )
Neo-Anarchists
27-01-2005, 01:52
I like being quite deadly.
I like being a Galaxian Warrior.
Whatever one of those is...
Armandian Cheese
27-01-2005, 02:13
I don't think she ever will. All you can do is just voice your opinions.
I seriously doubt that.
Still, keep away from kitchen knives. Just in case :D (j/k ;) )
Nah, I prefer automatic shotguns...Just kidding, of course. And I shall continue to voice my opinions, until the day of my death, no matter what those damned liberals may try...
North Yaman
27-01-2005, 02:34
And I shall continue to voice my opinions, until the day of my death, no matter what those damned liberals may try...
Why is everyone down on liberals today?
You know, these hated 'liberals'(which seems to mean something along the lines of 'communism' to most Americans) are technically the furtherest away from the extreme right-wing (or extreme left-wing) ideal of removing the human right to voice your opinion(can anyone say Fascism or Communism?). Also, free healthcare...improved welfare...less wars...not as many morally righteous conservatives...its all better in the middle.
But I digress...if Mistress Kim is still reading this at all, I have no advice for you, as you've probably gotten over it by now. If you haven't, well...nothing much to do except get really plastered. It might not help the depression, but it will make you forget anything for a little while. I suggest cheap whiskey, as its truly the water of life.
Tioszaea
27-01-2005, 02:36
So after two years, one month, and twenty-one days, my boyfriend broke up with me yesterday. I feel like complete poo.
Please cheer me up, because I am stuck alone at work, and I don't want to be sitting here crying. :(
O-u-c-h. Two years? Seriously?
You know what I think? That guy is total BULLSHIT! That's f***ing stupid if he's with you for two years and then dumps you like that just because you're a little farther away. Geez, talk about f***ing HARSH!! I just.. I just don't believe it. If I ever had a girlfriend for that long, then I had damn well better appreciate her enough to drive a measly three hours to see her. God, this pisses me off so f***ing much!! :mad:
Mistress Kimberly
27-01-2005, 02:47
O-u-c-h. Two years? Seriously?
You know what I think? That guy is total BULLSHIT! That's f***ing stupid if he's with you for two years and then dumps you like that just because you're a little farther away. Geez, talk about f***ing HARSH!! I just.. I just don't believe it. If I ever had a girlfriend for that long, then I had damn well better appreciate her enough to drive a measly three hours to see her. God, this pisses me off so f***ing much!! :mad:
Yeah it pisses me off too.
Los Banditos
27-01-2005, 04:20
I'm sorry to hear that MK. Just know that we have have gone through with stuff like that. It happens to the best of us. If it is some blessing, you can feel slightly better that people here on NS, people that have never met you, feel sorry for you.
Armandian Cheese
27-01-2005, 04:23
Why is everyone down on liberals today?
You know, these hated 'liberals'(which seems to mean something along the lines of 'communism' to most Americans) are technically the furtherest away from the extreme right-wing (or extreme left-wing) ideal of removing the human right to voice your opinion(can anyone say Fascism or Communism?). Also, free healthcare...improved welfare...less wars...not as many morally righteous conservatives...its all better in the middle.
But I digress...if Mistress Kim is still reading this at all, I have no advice for you, as you've probably gotten over it by now. If you haven't, well...nothing much to do except get really plastered. It might not help the depression, but it will make you forget anything for a little while. I suggest cheap whiskey, as its truly the water of life.
If they did what they espoused, it'd be great. However, while groups like the ACLU say they want more free speech, their actions show otherwise.
Los Banditos
27-01-2005, 04:25
I don't want to even bother reading through this whole thread now that I see what most of the posts must be about. How about you guys don't hijack a thread that is about someone's personal life with politics? Or is that too much to ask?
EDIT: Disreagard this. I just skimmed through and it isn't. A lot of it is spam. :)
The Plutonian Empire
27-01-2005, 04:29
I don't want to even bother reading through this whole thread now that I see what most of the posts must be about. How about you guys don't hijack a thread that is about someone's personal life with politics? Or is that too much to ask?
Hmm... I never saw it that way. Thanks for bringing that up :)
Mistress Kimberly
27-01-2005, 04:31
I don't want to even bother reading through this whole thread now that I see what most of the posts must be about. How about you guys don't hijack a thread that is about someone's personal life with politics? Or is that too much to ask?
EDIT: Disreagard this. I just skimmed through and it isn't. A lot of it is spam. :)
I think it just became about politics in the last 2 pages or so...most of the rest consisted of Armandian Cheese trying to convince me to never have sex again.
Los Banditos
27-01-2005, 04:33
I think it just became about politics in the last 2 pages or so...most of the rest consisted of Armandian Cheese trying to convince me to never have sex again.
Ah, well, you should ignore that then. ;)
Congrats on 500 posts.
Mistress Kimberly
27-01-2005, 04:33
Ah, well, you should ignore that then. ;)
Definitely ignoring it. Life without sex would be like...life without cherry coke.
Nation of Fortune
27-01-2005, 04:34
Ah, well, you should ignore that then. ;)
Congrats on 500 posts.
and some of it consited of me trying to reason with him, but he would have none of it
Mistress Kimberly
27-01-2005, 04:34
Congrats on 500 posts.
Holy crap. Yay me!!!
Los Banditos
27-01-2005, 04:43
and some of it consited of me trying to reason with him, but he would have none of it
Most people don't listen to other people's arguements unless they want to pick them apart. Especially on the internet. Which is why i try to stay away from the controversial topics.
The Plutonian Empire
27-01-2005, 04:45
@Mistress Kimberly
I know it's a bit late...
Congrats on 500 posts :D
Pilchardtopia
27-01-2005, 04:49
what you can do, is spend a night in with pizza and pronography. And beer. Once you realise that this as good as life gets for single guys you'll probably feel a lot more cheerful.