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Sex is Bad

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New Anthrus
17-01-2005, 04:09
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.
Zeppistan
17-01-2005, 04:11
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

Love is love.

Sex is sex.

They are both very diferent, and both very enjoyable.

Can sex be made unneccessary? Sure.

Just like golf...


People don't just do things that they HAVE to do. There are things we do because we WANT to do them.

It's what makes life worth living.
Kryozerkia
17-01-2005, 04:12
Hmn, you raise a good point. It would certainly serve to help eradicate AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases...
Kanabia
17-01-2005, 04:13
Um, right. Have fun with that New Anthrus....a future where you masturbate into a cup when you want children. Wait, isn't masturbation a sin? Guess that doesn't work either.
New Granada
17-01-2005, 04:15
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.


Cry about it.
New Granada
17-01-2005, 04:16
Hmn, you raise a good point. It would certainly serve to help eradicate AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases...

His point is about as good as the point:

"If people stopped fighting, there would never be any war!"
Commando2
17-01-2005, 04:16
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

I sort of agree. I think sex between a married man and woman is good and necessary because it is what God wants for us and how he planned life for us. However any other sex, including sodomy, fornication, and worst of all adultury, is evil and should be banned.
Kryozerkia
17-01-2005, 04:17
...on the otherhand.... Man, this guy is nuts! Sex ain't just a primate urge, it's oddly satisfying.
Reconditum
17-01-2005, 04:17
Sex is good. Sex with someone you love (or someone with whom you share some other sort of positive emotional connection) is much, much better.

End of story.
Arenestho
17-01-2005, 04:17
Artificial insemenation costs money, sex is free. Also sex feels good, nature made it that way so that we would do it and procreate.

Oh yah and also, usually when a thread gets low turnout, there's a reason.
Zeppistan
17-01-2005, 04:17
Hmn, you raise a good point. It would certainly serve to help eradicate AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases...

Well, of course if we just locked everyone in individual pressurized cocoons then we could eradicate ALL contageous diseases! And eliminate all of that unneccessary human interaction.

After all, it just breeds dependance via silly feelings of friendship that we could certainly do without...
Galliam
17-01-2005, 04:17
*has sex with nearest female*

I don't feel evil.
Kryozerkia
17-01-2005, 04:17
His point is about as good as the point:

"If people stopped fighting, there would never be any war!"
The only "plus" point. Everything else is just negative...
Greater Valia
17-01-2005, 04:18
Sex is double plus bad! Join the junior anti-sex brigade today!
Psychedilia
17-01-2005, 04:18
Kanabia are you assuming a man is required to create a child? It's possible for DNA from an egg to be inserted into a second egg to fertilise it, the only difference being the certainty that the child would be female, as no Y chromosome would be available.

I think this green bio guy is cool :gundge:
Nikoko
17-01-2005, 04:19
No offense, but I find your future of a sexless world freightening.

While sex can be abused, it is a way for a loving couple to deepen their feelings for each other. Indeed, love is based on a chemical/sexual response, without sex, their is no love, soul mates and stuff aside. You'll get the same answer from many a biologist.


Passion, Love, Lust, this adds flavor to the human race. Else, we would be automatons. Not that I don't think artifical mechanical life would be incapable of love, depending on programming, or if it was driven by a evolutionary genetic algorthym.


Primitive desires? It sounds like either your a virgin, aftraid to lose it. Or maybe you were burned in previous sexual partnerships, if that is so, I'm sorry, but once you find the right person, it's well worth it.

Also, you could have a low amount of hormones, this could account for your view, not that I'm shrugging you off or anything.


Besides, life would be so much more fun if we could trade dirty jokes when we make first contact. :D
Kryozerkia
17-01-2005, 04:19
Well, of course if we just locked everyone in individual pressurized cocoons then we could eradicate ALL contageous diseases! And eliminate all of that unneccessary human interaction.

After all, it just breeds dependance via silly feelings of friendship that we could certainly do without...
Yeah, heaven forbid we should have any interaction.

Hell, while we're at it, let's all go find rocks to crawl under. I see a nice one over there! See you in ten years!
AMOTION
17-01-2005, 04:19
you crazy man, u really expect us to stop having sex? i know a good place for you.... a room with bouncy coushined walls where you wear a straightjacket.... go have fun there while im having sex, you will regret your decision very soon.
Bitchkitten
17-01-2005, 04:21
Screw that!(ha ha) Sex is fun. I don't have sex for procreation. I don't have or want offspring. Too many people on this planet already. I hope I still am having it and enjoying it when I'm 90.
Kanabia
17-01-2005, 04:21
Kanabia are you assuming a man is required to create a child? It's possible for DNA from an egg to be inserted into a second egg to fertilise it, the only difference being the certainty that the child would be female, as no Y chromosome would be available.

Oh that's much better. Let's get rid of men and have a world of lesbians.

Wait, that's a sin too.
Gorg the Evil
17-01-2005, 04:23
New Anthrus, how old are you?
Nikoko
17-01-2005, 04:23
I read a scifi flick about the entire male gender being wiped out.


Man did that scare the crap out of me.


I mean sure, we've done our fair share of macho killing and stuff, but you still like us, right girls?

...girls? ;-;
Greater Valia
17-01-2005, 04:24
Oh that's much better. Let's get rid of men and have a world of lesbians.

Wait, that's a sin too.

"I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires."

I see nothing in that post where he refered to having sex masturbating, or having a world full of lesbians as being a sin. So.... why do you keep saying that?
Salamae
17-01-2005, 04:24
Sweet Christ, it hurts to read this. Sex is a beautiful thing, and shared with someone you love, it's a wonderful way to add to an already good relationship. Sure, it can be used the wrong way, but it isn't fair to blame sex itself for that.
Hollystan
17-01-2005, 04:25
Oh that's much better. Let's get rid of men and have a world of lesbians.

Wait, that's a sin too.

Well, it's only a sin if you believe that eating Shrimp and Lobster is too..lol
THE LOST PLANET
17-01-2005, 04:28
OK, sex from a pure Biological standpoint does have it's drawbacks as a means of procreaction. But it does ensure a mixing of the genes like no other that allows the species to thrive and evolve at a greater speed.

That said,

I like sex.

I'd rather participate in that than any other form of procreation.

I'm not alone in this opinion.

For this reason you'll never get rid of it.
New Granada
17-01-2005, 04:28
Sweet Christ, it hurts to read this. Sex is a beautiful thing, and shared with someone you love, it's a wonderful way to add to an already good relationship. Sure, it can be used the wrong way, but it isn't fair to blame sex itself for that.


Its really almost a trolling thread, he's made a thread veeery similar before.
Rubina
17-01-2005, 04:28
...sex is free. Sugar, that'll be $100.00 up front. :D
Kanabia
17-01-2005, 04:28
"I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires."

I see nothing in that post where he refered to having sex masturbating, or having a world full of lesbians as being a sin. So.... why do you keep saying that?

When they referred to artificial insemination as a means of procreation. (you need to masturbate)

The lesbian thing comes from:

Kanabia are you assuming a man is required to create a child? It's possible for DNA from an egg to be inserted into a second egg to fertilise it, the only difference being the certainty that the child would be female, as no Y chromosome would be available.

Well, it's only a sin if you believe that eating Shrimp and Lobster is too..lol

Don't worry, I don't really think that, just pointing out that many of the people who think "sex is bad" may be surprised that the alternatives are "bad" too :)
New Granada
17-01-2005, 04:29
"I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires."

I see nothing in that post where he refered to having sex masturbating, or having a world full of lesbians as being a sin. So.... why do you keep saying that?


Its humorous you see, it is to mock his - and this is a word to be used sparingly, but certainly fits here - stupid idea.
Von Witzleben
17-01-2005, 04:29
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.
Blablabla...Have yourself sterilized already.
Greater Valia
17-01-2005, 04:29
When they referred to artificial insemination as a means of procreation. (you need to masturbate)

The lesbian thing comes from:

Yeah I know but you keep saying, "Oh, thats a sin too". He never said anything about sex being a sin so why do you keep saying that he did?
Hollystan
17-01-2005, 04:30
(you need to masturbate)

OMG, what will it take for you people to understand that makes you go blind.. haha :D
Rubina
17-01-2005, 04:32
Let's get rid of men and have a world of lesbians.We have a motion before the Council from the Kanabian delegation. Do I hear a second? :p
Argheraal
17-01-2005, 04:34
Hey sex is evil in the eyes of the beholder, and nobody is forcing YOU to have sex if you dont want it, or if you wont do it. Me? personally i will have sex 'till i cant raise up to the ocassion whether all the rest of the world likes it or not.

Bet that bugs ya big time...

If you are happy without it good for you, and well, there are a lot more that are happy with it.

Bet that bugs ya big time even more..

And i am sure some will agree with you wholeheartedly, but the greater majority will not..

And i bet that bugs ya even bigger time!!!

Human nature is what it is.
Nation of Fortune
17-01-2005, 04:34
This again, and how did your previous one get such a low turn out!? you made it to 67 pages. any way, I just might participate in this one, again
Kanabia
17-01-2005, 04:35
Yeah I know but you keep saying, "Oh, thats a sin too". He never said anything about sex being a sin so why do you keep saying that he did?

I figured (perhaps wrongly) that he was religious when he said "It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit"

OMG, what will it take for you people to understand that makes you go blind.. haha :D

Now now, that's an old wives tale. What really happens is that it turns blue and falls off. :p

We have a motion before the Council from the Kanabian delegation. Do I hear a second? :p

Well...maybe we could have a few guys. Like me. :D
Magicincia
17-01-2005, 04:35
frankly, i love sex. love sex! i think its great. as long as it is two (or more) consenting adults who are being safe....i say bring on the lube!
Greater Valia
17-01-2005, 04:36
I figured (perhaps wrongly) that he was religious when he said "It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit" Spirit can be construed as more than something religious.
Garmia
17-01-2005, 04:36
AI (Artificial Insemination) is extremely expencive and has a fairly low sucess rate.

AI (Artificial Intelligence) is also extremely expencive and has no sucess rate.

Though we are making advances in each.
Nation of Fortune
17-01-2005, 04:37
OMG, what will it take for you people to understand that makes you go blind.. haha :D
no, every time you masterbate god kills a kitten!
http://www.mlcsmith.com/humor/art/god-kills-kitten.jpg
:D
lets see, thats at least 365 kittens, so............*thinks real hard*............ :eek: thats a lot a kittens!
New Granada
17-01-2005, 04:37
Spirit can be construed as more than something religious.

What major religion links 'spiritural health' and sex with a negative connotation?
Xstraightxedgex
17-01-2005, 04:38
Has anyone here read the book 1984??? For those who havent:
In the book sex was pretty much banned. There was also a camera watching every move every person made. And everyone is poor and history is completely rewritten so that the government can brainwash everyone into never questioning their power. Good book you should read it man. Its a pretty exciting sounding future
12345543211
17-01-2005, 04:38
Very interesting point, I like your views, but sex is not whats bad, its young sex and early relationship sex that is bad. When you know someone very well, I think sex is ok, esp. if you are planning on marrying them, also if you are married, than it is very right.
Greater Valia
17-01-2005, 04:39
What major religion links 'spiritural health' and sex with a negative connotation? Certainly not anything eastern!
Nation of Fortune
17-01-2005, 04:39
Has anyone here read the book 1984??? For those who havent:
In the book sex was pretty much banned. There was also a camera watching every move every person made. And everyone is poor and history is completely rewritten so that the government can brainwash everyone into never questioning their power. Good book you should read it man. Its a pretty exciting sounding future
he's also never dated, I'd send a link for the previous thread, but I lost it
OceanDrive
17-01-2005, 04:40
If sex is evil, Why did it feel so good last time (45 min ago)
Nation of Fortune
17-01-2005, 04:40
If sex is evil, Why did it feel so good last time (45 min ago)
and the first thing you do afterwards is get on NS? not my first choice of things to after sex
Skapedroe
17-01-2005, 04:40
sex is the will to live
Lester P Jones
17-01-2005, 04:44
If I was getting any, I would be able to have an opinion...but i haven't
New Anthrus
17-01-2005, 04:44
Its really almost a trolling thread, he's made a thread veeery similar before.
Yeah, but like I said, low turnout. There were a lot of individual posts, but they were all by five or six posters.
Nation of Fortune
17-01-2005, 04:46
Yeah, but like I said, low turnout. There were a lot of individual posts, but they were all by five or six posters.
not sure i'm proud to say that I was one of those
Argheraal
17-01-2005, 04:50
Well, if God thinks sex is evil (something i am sure He does not), then why did he created us with the necessary equipment??

Did He not say to Adam and Eve: Go forth and multiply?

Hell, that is a clear invitation to have sex if i ever saw one!!
LATVERIA1
17-01-2005, 04:54
i think this thread would be better if there were some diversity ie someone whos actully experinced sex. that has got to be the worst idea iver ever hear what is out so called civilization based on the need for survival. our compettive nature is what drives us to new heights half the competittion a man will ever face is that battling for a woman to get rid of sex would a. never happen and b. be absloutly for us a socity drop in the economy sex sells. the idea that all primal lust will be lost will mean the end to play boy half the movies that our out the porn indistry would crumble. langire would be dead calonges and perfumes would be gone, many peoples motives to stay in shape would be gone causing our already obese socity to become fatter if posible. dating services would be gone the internet would have almost no use. and because biologicly humans would have massive back up of hormones war would be out of control fights and the crime rate would be off the charts. so you can see how potentlly the idea of no sex could be bad.
New Anthrus
17-01-2005, 05:00
This again, and how did your previous one get such a low turn out!? you made it to 67 pages. any way, I just might participate in this one, again
Because the same people kept posting over and over again, and none of the interesting ones (except that existentialist bitch).
Nation of Fortune
17-01-2005, 05:20
Because the same people kept posting over and over again, and none of the interesting ones (except that existentialist bitch).
And i wasn't interesting?
Nikoko
17-01-2005, 05:22
You really need to experince sex before you can say sex is bad.

I mean, following your logic, if we stop breathing, then we won't commit anymore crimes because no one will be around.

It sounds to be like your actually afraid of sex or the opposite gender, or maybe you have no sexual labido, so you feel left out.

I demand a direct reply from you. :D
Blessed Assurance
17-01-2005, 05:33
OK I've said "this is the most retarded thing I've ever read 3 times today, but now i really mean it.... Sex is meant to be a physical expression of love between a man and his wife. In that context there is NOTHING bad about it.
Hollystan
17-01-2005, 05:36
Sex is sex.. it feels good. If it was not meant to feel good it wouldn't. If only married people were suppose to have sex it wouldn't feel good to have it if you weren't married. This is a ridiculous thread. End of story.
Hirilytha
17-01-2005, 05:39
What's really scary, is something I learned of during a discussion in Advanced Biology class... According to current estimates, the Y Chromosome will be completely depleted from the gene pool in approximately five hundred years. I can't remember the exact specifics, but naturally-made males will be a thing of the past circa 2500 AD...
Alomogordo
17-01-2005, 05:45
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.
So what do you suggest? We ban sex?
Wenchetyria
17-01-2005, 05:48
i think this thread would be better if there were some diversity ie someone whos actully experinced sex. that has got to be the worst idea iver ever hear what is out so called civilization based on the need for survival. our compettive nature is what drives us to new heights half the competittion a man will ever face is that battling for a woman to get rid of sex would a. never happen and b. be absloutly for us a socity drop in the economy sex sells. the idea that all primal lust will be lost will mean the end to play boy half the movies that our out the porn indistry would crumble. langire would be dead calonges and perfumes would be gone, many peoples motives to stay in shape would be gone causing our already obese socity to become fatter if posible. dating services would be gone the internet would have almost no use. and because biologicly humans would have massive back up of hormones war would be out of control fights and the crime rate would be off the charts. so you can see how potentlly the idea of no sex could be bad.

Well, attempting to read and decipher that made my head hurt a little. Your arguments are well thought, but your follow-through is atrocious. And don't forget that in his world, there wouldn't be any emotions.

I think somebody watched Equilibrium and took it a little too seriously.
Johnistan
17-01-2005, 05:52
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

Sex IS part of the human mind and spirit. It IS part of being human. In fact, it's one of biggest parts. When you deny that you are denying your humanity.

Just because you can't get it doesn't mean it's evil.
Hiroshiko
17-01-2005, 06:06
Oh no...not again :P

Anyway, while, you, New Anthrus, do bring up some interesting points, I still disagree with you. Sex is a natural thing, it is a human trait. In contrary to what you said, it is part of our mind and spirit. If we didn't do it, we'd be all robots or mindless vessals. It has gotten our existence this far, why stop?
Hiroshiko
17-01-2005, 06:07
Sex IS part of the human mind and spirit. It IS part of being human. In fact, it's one of biggest parts. When you deny that you are denying your humanity.

Just because you can't get it doesn't mean it's evil.

Exactly, I agree with you.
Eutrusca
17-01-2005, 06:17
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.
I figure I've got maybe ten, fifteen years left, tops. I sincerely hope that your dystopian future waits until long, long after that to transpire! Sex is so much, much more than "physical need." :headbang:
Thelona
17-01-2005, 06:39
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not.

Interesting theory. One day, however, you might work out that sex and love are quite separate. Even if not, you're not supporting your premise at all.
Kerubia
17-01-2005, 06:42
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

You're just trolling, that's all.

If by some freak accident you are not, I'm not going to pretend to give you therapy. Instead, I'll advise you to see a psychiatrist as soon as you can.
Kerubia
17-01-2005, 06:47
What's really scary, is something I learned of during a discussion in Advanced Biology class... According to current estimates, the Y Chromosome will be completely depleted from the gene pool in approximately five hundred years. I can't remember the exact specifics, but naturally-made males will be a thing of the past circa 2500 AD...

Whoah, are you serious? Can you find some sources for this? I am highly interested in this . . . and finding out how it will be depleted. How could we possibly evolve to stop producing?

Or will we not need the Y chormosome...
Bill Mutz
17-01-2005, 06:51
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.I, for one, have always found it rather enjoyable.
Dakini
17-01-2005, 06:52
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love.
i don't know about you, but i tend to fall in love with someone before i have sex with them. you've got the order reversed there.

The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not.
so people who have lost their sex drive due to say, age, are through in a relationship?

have you never seen a sweet old couple holding hands and just looking thoroughly content and in love?

The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race.
sex was not designed.

and it does more than perpetuate the species. it is also a bonding experience between two people. not only that, it's a little easier than artifical insemination... especially on women...

However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
do you know the female side of artificial insemination? you take hormone injections to increase the output of eggs, which can cause massive mood swings among other things and then the eggs are harvested and put in a dish to be fertilized...

it's much easier and more efficient if these people just get it on and go about reproducing in a natural way.

I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.
i wonder what it is you have against sex. were you molested or raped? i have heard that rape victims will sometimes become quite frigid towards the prospect of sex (understandably so... traumatic experiences tend to do that) however, i somehow doubt that the healthiest way to deal with such abuse is to blame the act and shun it as you do. it seems to me that that would inhibit the healing process...
Der Lieben
17-01-2005, 06:52
I think this green bio guy is cool :gundge:

Its awesome, esp. for a Unreal veteran like myself.
Quatonia
17-01-2005, 06:52
Ok Sorry to all the Nerdy Virgin in here, but you are insain, nothing against nerds or virgins. Sex is great human emotion, so try it before you nix it. I mean just WTF? is wrong with you?
Jorgalonia
17-01-2005, 06:53
Anyone who is taking the time to say sex is evil would desire it for him/herself yet probably never will have it. (You're probably a loser who will never get some.)
Neo-Anarchists
17-01-2005, 06:54
Ok Sorry to all the Nerdy Virgin in here, but you are insain, nothing against nerds or virgins. Sex is great human emotion, so try it before you nix it. I mean just WTF? is wrong with you?
Err, if you'd have read the thread, exactly one person said that sex is bad.
Rogue Angelica
17-01-2005, 06:55
Damn, people. How the hell could people go without sex--we'd go insane, really and actually mentally insane.
Der Lieben
17-01-2005, 06:57
look at what it does to catholic priests
Kerubia
17-01-2005, 06:57
I've done my own internet searching on the "Exctinction of the Y Chromosome", and I'm not convinced yet that there'll be no more men as we know them today just yet . . . most of what I've found suggests otherwise.

http://www.undiebox.com/index.php?s=&c=226&d=&e=&f=&g=&a=22296&w=2

If anyone else has any sources, please send them to me! This is quite interesting to me!
ZACH_TOPIA
17-01-2005, 06:57
Sex is double plus bad! Join the junior anti-sex brigade today!

just a tad bit late but you mean -sex is double plus UN-GOOD- you need to brush up on your new speek.
Reconditum
17-01-2005, 06:57
Err, if you'd have read the thread, exactly one person said that sex is bad.

Based on his (her?) writing I'd say Quatonia doesn't read much.
Rogue Angelica
17-01-2005, 06:58
look at what it does to catholic priests
Exactally.
Dakini
17-01-2005, 06:59
i think this thread would be better if there were some diversity ie someone whos actully experinced sex.
umm.... i've experienced sex. i've yet to explore the reproductive properties, but the fun and closeness ones have been well covered.
Dakini
17-01-2005, 07:01
What's really scary, is something I learned of during a discussion in Advanced Biology class... According to current estimates, the Y Chromosome will be completely depleted from the gene pool in approximately five hundred years. I can't remember the exact specifics, but naturally-made males will be a thing of the past circa 2500 AD...
it's not 500 years.
i've heard the same thing, but the timeline was much longer.
Quatonia
17-01-2005, 07:02
But seriously what the fuck, man, woman, whatever the hell you are? I think you were born with out hormons or sex drives
Wild Hand Motions
17-01-2005, 07:09
I do believe this quote sums the point that I'd like to make:

It hurts sometimes more than we can bear. If we could be without passion, maybe we could know some measure of peace. But we'd be empty rooms; shuttered and dank. Without passion, we'd be truly dead.

Sex is passion, whether lustful or out of love, put into a physical action. Without this passion, this zest, we would lack that which makes us fundamentally human. To take away this ability, this God-given right, would be to take away a part of that which makes us human.
Skapedroe
17-01-2005, 07:26
I do believe this quote sums the point that I'd like to make:



Sex is passion, whether lustful or out of love, put into a physical action. Without this passion, this zest, we would lack that which makes us fundamentally human. To take away this ability, this God-given right, would be to take away a part of that which makes us human.
it would take away peoples will to live
Shizensky
17-01-2005, 07:36
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.


I'm not sure if anybody has said this or not by now, but here's my $0.02

If you think sex is bad, perhaps you should find a new love interest. Or have them take lessons. You know, whole books were written about problems not unlike these.

I hope this can help.
New Granada
17-01-2005, 08:15
Certainly not anything eastern!
Riiiiiiiight.

Which leaves two obvious choices:

1) Islam
2) Christianity


Futhermore...
Since there are *very few muslims* who preach in here, the most reasonable conclusion is........
....
.......
Christianity!

Whhhhhhhhhhhhhich.... considers a great many things which have been mentioned as such to be - - - - - *SINS*!!!!!
New Granada
17-01-2005, 08:16
Yeah, but like I said, low turnout. There were a lot of individual posts, but they were all by five or six posters.


So you're repeating your thread to provoke a larger response?

Called trolling, no?
New Granada
17-01-2005, 08:20
i don't know about you, but i tend to fall in love with someone before i have sex with them. you've got the order reversed there.



Precisely, and when sex comes before love, it often comes after drinking, in which case there isnt necessarily a bond of dependency formed between those involved.

In fact in many cases they may not see one another again.

Granted that can lead to problems all its own, but not the sort Anthrus is going on about.
Niccolo Medici
17-01-2005, 15:57
Sex is bad?

Its good to be bad baby!
Latta
17-01-2005, 16:04
Only someone who hasn't gotten any in a while would make a post like this. What's wrong? got turned down too much so you are angry about it or something?
Jester III
17-01-2005, 17:00
I am going to repeat myself, with a quote: "from my cold, dead hands".
Come on, its just too much fun. And most of the times it isnt abusive. That is like saying you should not drive cars, because accidents happen. And cars certainly do more destroy our world than sex ever did.
John Browning
17-01-2005, 17:44
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

Obviously, you've never had good sex.
New Anthrus
17-01-2005, 22:47
And i wasn't interesting?
No, you made an extremely good arguement. But you are not one of the more fierce debaters that I've seen.
New Anthrus
17-01-2005, 22:49
So what do you suggest? We ban sex?
No. I suggest that more of us realize the philosophical ramifications of sex.
New Anthrus
17-01-2005, 22:51
Oh no...not again :P

Anyway, while, you, New Anthrus, do bring up some interesting points, I still disagree with you. Sex is a natural thing, it is a human trait. In contrary to what you said, it is part of our mind and spirit. If we didn't do it, we'd be all robots or mindless vessals. It has gotten our existence this far, why stop?
There are many virgins that aren't robots. I'm sure many can attest to a friendly, lively priest that is mostly celibate (unless he did something we prefer not to know about).
Nation of Fortune
17-01-2005, 23:17
No, you made an extremely good arguement. But you are not one of the more fierce debaters that I've seen.
Welll thank you, I usually lose interest after a while, so that's why I'm not a terribly fierce with my arguments
Branin
17-01-2005, 23:19
Cry about it.

*cries*

*then goes out and has sex* :rolleyes:

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
New Granada
17-01-2005, 23:45
No. I suggest that more of us realize the philosophical ramifications of sex.


Perhaps while we are at it we can "reazlize the philosophical ramifications" of violence of of our capitalism.


You sound as unreasonable and unrealistic as an anarchist.
Letila
18-01-2005, 00:02
Now that is just too much. Just when I thought ordinary fundies were bad enough, now there is someone who seriously argues that sex is inherently evil. What about food? Should we inject everything we need into us with a portable IV device of some sort? Should we abolish sleep with more injections? While we're at it, we might as well take away breathing and have blood oxygenated with such a device. We might as well use special chemicals that effect the brain to make us completely unable to feel any kind of pleasure at all just for completeness.
Bunglejinx
18-01-2005, 00:30
Perhaps while we are at it we can "reazlize the philosophical ramifications" of violence of of our capitalism.


You sound as unreasonable and unrealistic as an anarchist.

Or we can "realize the philosophical ramifications" of thinking that the U.S. is a real example of capitalism and how it skews our perspective of the world.
New Anthrus
18-01-2005, 00:35
Now that is just too much. Just when I thought ordinary fundies were bad enough, now there is someone who seriously argues that sex is inherently evil. What about food? Should we inject everything we need into us with a portable IV device of some sort? Should we abolish sleep with more injections? While we're at it, we might as well take away breathing and have blood oxygenated with such a device. We might as well use special chemicals that effect the brain to make us completely unable to feel any kind of pleasure at all just for completeness.
When it is biologically possible to eliminate food and sleep, we should. Sleep takes too much time, and eating and drinking give too much pleasure. I'm quite stoic, you see, and believe that pleasure of the body must be transcended. So far, however, it is not possible to eliminate those things, and they should be occuring for now.
Neo-Anarchists
18-01-2005, 00:37
When it is biologically possible to eliminate food and sleep, we should. Sleep takes too much time, and eating and drinking give too much pleasure. I'm quite stoic, you see, and believe that pleasure of the body must be transcended. So far, however, it is not possible to eliminate those things, and they should be occuring for now.
Well, there we have it!
Refer to the last lines in my sig.


(no, not the line that says "Wanna lick my eyeball?")
New Anthrus
18-01-2005, 02:34
Perhaps while we are at it we can "reazlize the philosophical ramifications" of violence of of our capitalism.


You sound as unreasonable and unrealistic as an anarchist.
But an anarchist figures that humanity wants anarchy. I don't. I'm just saying that humanity would be happier without sex, and feel that our biology blinds us from this truth.
New Granada
18-01-2005, 02:48
But an anarchist figures that humanity wants anarchy. I don't. I'm just saying that humanity would be happier without sex, and feel that our biology blinds us from this truth.

I disagree, anarchists believe, much as you do, that an unreasonable and transparently bad idea would make things better for people.

You may as well make a thread called "eating is bad" in which you argued earnestly that the world would be better if people didnt need to eat, because no one would then starve.

There are things people learn in time when they live their lives and experience certain things, people who have had the experiences about which you preach and pontificate yet have not yourself experienced have a perspective allowing them to know that your idea is both ridiculous and patently wrong.

No patronization is intended, but the fact remains that there are certain things about which one can learn only through personal experience.

The sex in a relationship is a point of great intimacy, and no one would deny that when a relationship falls apart, the memory of that intimacy is painful.

Know though that no one who had experienced that would, in the full accounting wish that they had never experienced what they did.
New Anthrus
18-01-2005, 03:05
I disagree, anarchists believe, much as you do, that an unreasonable and transparently bad idea would make things better for people.

You may as well make a thread called "eating is bad" in which you argued earnestly that the world would be better if people didnt need to eat, because no one would then starve.

There are things people learn in time when they live their lives and experience certain things, people who have had the experiences about which you preach and pontificate yet have not yourself experienced have a perspective allowing them to know that your idea is both ridiculous and patently wrong.

No patronization is intended, but the fact remains that there are certain things about which one can learn only through personal experience.

The sex in a relationship is a point of great intimacy, and no one would deny that when a relationship falls apart, the memory of that intimacy is painful.

Know though that no one who had experienced that would, in the full accounting wish that they had never experienced what they did.
I have eaten and slept before. Does that somehow make me inellgiible to speak about their evils?
Boyfriendia
18-01-2005, 03:13
Excuse me everyone. I didn't really bother to read any of this thread, but I simply saw the title of it and thought "HOLY S**T, WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE TELL ME BEFORE I GOT SO HOPELESSLY ADDICTED!!!!" And then I realized whoever started this probably has :D a mediocre (if any) sex life and I instantly felt better!!
Gnostikos
18-01-2005, 06:57
Aww, Christ Jesus monkeyballs. You're not going to convince anyone, Anthrus. I swear, I leave the forum for just 2 days and you're already at it :D. Here, take my advice: Get laid. I am also intending on adhereing to my advice. I know this has been said time and time again, but I just can't help myself. I can not believe that you even bothered to make another thread on this without introducing a new premise (granted, I haven't read the thread, but I can guess at how much new material there is). All intelligent and original thoughts have been ground into extremely fine powder, and you are threatening to grind them down to the level of breaking molecular bonds. Nothing new is going to happen, and people like sex too much to ever give it up. In vitro propagation has not yet reached the level of technology to eliminate sex. Brave New World's baby production lines were not supposed to encourage this, though I grant you there was rampant sex in Huxley's novel, but that is unrelated. Also, people will not take well to removal of genetalia at any stage of life, since it will have to begin at some point. People want sex, and they're going to get it. I am also extremely bored right now, which is why I even bothered to post so much redundant bullsh*t. YOU HAVE STOLEN 5 MINUTES OF MY LIFE!!!
Nation of Fortune
18-01-2005, 07:03
well put gnostikos
Perstine
18-01-2005, 07:14
To quote Family Guy "You need to get laid, and fast!" Now get off these forums and interact with someone face to face, just like these two! :fluffle:

And to bring out an old syaing, "It is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all."
EEEEE is for Pants
18-01-2005, 07:42
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

Ok, heres the deal. Most of the time I would sit bake and try to elequently get across my point of view, but unfortunatly the only thing running through my mind at this time is " Oh my God, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard." PLEASE do us all a favor and go get laid.
I feel sorry for what ever guy/girl loses that bet but the world would again be safe from your idiotic notions.

Congratulations on the good string turn out, too bad most of us agree, atleast to some extent, your a fool and this is a precious few minutes of my life I will never get back. God that sucks!
Gnostikos
18-01-2005, 07:53
To quote Family Guy "You need to get laid, and fast!"
I believe that it's "She needs to get laid, big time."
THE LOST PLANET
18-01-2005, 08:13
I believe that it's "She needs to get laid, big time."
There you go again. ;)
Santa Barbara
18-01-2005, 08:24
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

Communist.
Yammo
18-01-2005, 08:42
This is the most stupid idea I have ever heard.

No further comment.
Asylum Nova
18-01-2005, 09:41
Sex is only bad to those who believe such. I haven't had it yet, but I'll be doing such in a couple of months, with my honey. :d

The only thing bad about sex in my opinion (as of right now) is that it will sometimes wind up in pregnancy. And I can't have that. I'm wayy too selfish and thoughtless to care for a child. ^^;

*throws box of condoms in shopping cart*

-ASylum Nova
Helennia
18-01-2005, 09:57
When it is biologically possible to eliminate food and sleep, we should. Sleep takes too much time, and eating and drinking give too much pleasure. I'm quite stoic, you see, and believe that pleasure of the body must be transcended. So far, however, it is not possible to eliminate those things, and they should be occuring for now.Whoa. Step back a few metres.
Is this guy serious? Are you? Really?
Because if stopping eating and drinking is what you want to do, then I'm sorry, but that's a little, uh, silly. Sure, eliminating eating and drinking would reduce earthly pleasures - if that's your belief, you're welcome to it. However, you have to consider the social ramifications of reducing leisure time in an increasingly high-pressure and fast-paced society. The acts of eating and drinking provide us with an excellent reason to take valuable time out from the stress of the world.
It's a trade-off between increased productivity and decreased happiness, and it's one I'm not willing to make... that, and the fact that I study maths at uni and wouldn't give up my coffee if you paid me. No, sir. I need it to stay awake in lectures.
Helennia
18-01-2005, 10:00
Oh, dear gods. I've just realised that I've wasted half an hour of my time reading the thread very carefully trying to detect sarcasm or flippancy in New Anthrus's posts, and I could have been having sex instead.
Damn.
Branin
18-01-2005, 10:01
Sex is Bad.

You are bad.

(not really, it was just fun to say)
My Own Country
18-01-2005, 10:14
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.
That must lead to a VERY boring life. A healthy intrest in sex dampens down peversions that people have an unfourtunate habbit of developing.
Wherramaharasinghastan
18-01-2005, 10:37
*sigh*
You know, your argument was almost making sense, not that i agree with it in any way, shape, or form. But then you HAD to go and start talking about how eliminating the need to eat food would do us all good, because of the pleasure involved, blah blah blah. I, personally, have never blown my load while indulging in a hearty steak, and don't expect that to happen in the near future. You're sounding like some kind of fundamentalist uber-modern buddist monk. Don't you realise that because you started this thread, people from all over the world are laughing at you?

I must say though, you're sticking to your guns through all of this criticism, and I congratulate you for that.

I know this has been said before, and a few times, too. But I think it's a very valid point- try it before you knock it. Seriously. Afterwards, come back and I bet a hell of a lot more people will listen seriously to what you have to say.
Branin
18-01-2005, 10:59
Sex is not bad. BAd sex is bad.
BlatantSillyness
18-01-2005, 11:01
*sigh*
. I, personally, have never blown my load while indulging in a hearty steak,
You have obviously never had good steak :(
THE LOST PLANET
18-01-2005, 11:01
I was watching a program about the french revolution, it mentioned that the reason Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette didn't have an heir for the first seven years was because Louis had a defect that made arrousal painful.


It makes you wonder about New Anthrus....
THE LOST PLANET
18-01-2005, 11:02
You have obviously never had good steak :(Define "had".
BlatantSillyness
18-01-2005, 11:06
Define "had".
Muhahahahaha
Helennia
18-01-2005, 11:22
I, personally, have never blown my load while indulging in a hearty steak.
It's a great experience. Hire yourself a decent French chef and ask for a steak sanguine.
I was watching a program about the french revolution, it mentioned that the reason Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette didn't have an heir for the first seven years was because Louis had a defect that made arrousal painfulOuch. :eek:
Glinde Nessroe
18-01-2005, 11:22
My reply is about as relevant and legitimate as this thread.

I enjoy saying the words "Grassy nowl".
Helennia
18-01-2005, 11:28
And what, pray, is the grassy nowl of which you speak?
THE LOST PLANET
18-01-2005, 11:29
My reply is about as relevant and legitimate as this thread.

I enjoy saying the words "Grassy nowl".I like saying "Gracious", only pronouncing it "Grassy Ass".
Handsome Figures
18-01-2005, 11:31
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.


HAHAHAHAHAHA, sex is bad, mkay? no seriously, if you think sex is bad, then don't do it in the first place. have sex after marriage, or when you are 70 years old, or never for that part. I don't think you can simply say that sex is evil. And even if you are sure, let other people find out for themselves. and why would you even care if sex between me and my girlfriend disguises itself for love? And I don't even want to overcome my primitive desires, I like them.
oh and then there is this thingey:
The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not.
If it wasnt for sex I wouldn't have a relationship in the first place. And that also goes for a lot of people. And don't you think that couples that break up due to a lack of sex have theirselves to blame, I don't think banning sex is the solution to that. We should make sex mandatory to preserve relationships!
Helennia
18-01-2005, 11:32
We should make sex mandatory to preserve relationships!How often a week do you think? 4? I think 4's about right...
Salmon and crack
18-01-2005, 11:33
have it as much as you can,preferably with several women at the same time!
and also film it.....sell it on the net.....make money whilst having fun (obviously if all participants consent?)....sorry,sad,sad,sad.
Jannemannistan
18-01-2005, 11:40
lol that guy prolly doesnt have a clue what hes on about:)
First off if you dont like it ur doing it wrong!
Aside that its the best workout available cuz it trains all muscles.
if 'god' didnt want us to have fun, he wouddave made us hermaphrodites!
BlatantSillyness
18-01-2005, 11:43
if 'god' didnt want us to have fun, he wouddave made us hermaphrodites!
Then this thread would be called "fucking yourself is bad" and we would all be wondering how the hell New Anthrus was still managing to not get laid.
Winter-een-Mas
18-01-2005, 11:48
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

you can tell this guy aint gettin any..........is your girl or boy friend holding out on you or are you just a phsyco who is well i cant think of a nice way to say this so i just wont.
Handsome Figures
18-01-2005, 11:52
How often a week do you think? 4? I think 4's about right...

well, I agree with you. four is a nice number. at least you can make that if you only see your partner in the weekends. I have an even better idea, when you see your partner the entire week, it should be six times, only during workdays (secretary) 5 times and only during the weekend=4 times... that would make the world a much happier place. everyone knows it is easier to make good results once you are sexually satisfied.... wait a minute, I found out what is wrong with New Anthrus....

:fluffle: sex is good, mkay? :fluffle:
Apocalypse Incorporate
18-01-2005, 11:57
if you really want to be an extremist... i have the perfect solution to all of your problems...

there's a way to end all war, all sadness, all hunger, all suffering, all bad feelings, and, yes, all sex permenantly... some cults refer to it as 'mass suicide'... yes, that's right... if everybody on earth were to kill themselves, no one would ever suffer again! hurray for fundamentalism!
Soviet Haaregrad
18-01-2005, 12:02
I sort of agree. I think sex between a married man and woman is good and necessary because it is what God wants for us and how he planned life for us. However any other sex, including sodomy, fornication, and worst of all adultury, is evil and should be banned.

Sodomy and fornication are what make life worth living.

:fluffle:
MegaMullets
18-01-2005, 12:27
well i looked at this thread title and i thought Dude... that's awesome... unfortunately i disagree with you New Anthrus, at least in part.

For starters, i would like to say to all of you who have blamed these beliefs on christainity, that you are wrong. This is in no way a Christain idea. While the bible does forbid sex before marriage, and agrees with people not having sex as a commitment in order to become closer to God, (eg priests) it actually promotes sex. To paraphrase Paul (who wrote about half the New Testament): don't have sex until your married. To those of you who are married, have sex lots and lots so that you are not tempted to have sex with other people.

I think that about sums up my thought on this topic. but New Anthrus gud on you for sticking to your guns. You're wrong, but at least you have the balls to be different to all these sex crazed maniacs.
Timica
18-01-2005, 12:38
What really puzzles me about your argument is what has led you to believe that sexuality is any less worthy than the other primitive instinctual drives that are the driving force behind life itself.
Ultimately, when you take away that which we pine for irrationally and internally, all we are left with is the purely rational realisation that there is no justifying our very existence. Life itself is the quintessential expression of irrational futility, the complex result of an energetic system, striving in vain for continuity and propetuation against the inevitible and inescapable decay of all things in this apathetic universe.
Just accept that if we don't have what we, by internal nature, live for.. we may as well not exist.
Johnistan
18-01-2005, 13:48
What really puzzles me about your argument is what has led you to believe that sexuality is any less worthy than the other primitive instinctual drives that are the driving force behind life itself.
Ultimately, when you take away that which we pine for irrationally and internally, all we are left with is the purely rational realisation that there is no justifying our very existence. Life itself is the quintessential expression of irrational futility, the complex result of an energetic system, striving in vain for continuity and propetuation against the inevitible and inescapable decay of all things in this apathetic universe.
Just accept that if we don't have what we, by internal nature, live for.. we may as well not exist.

You have officially killed my life.
Kerlapa
18-01-2005, 14:29
i enjoy sex, i tink its great, and so does my girlfriend. so im gonna stick to it
Domici
18-01-2005, 14:44
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

I think that's a porno movie starring Morgan Fairchild. Virgin hunter I think its called.
Yvarr
18-01-2005, 17:36
I love sex.
I love orgasms (both having them and giving them!)
Oral sex is great too (again, both receiving and giving).

I think I would kill myself without sex!
By the way, when you're married and work and go to school and have kids and maybe get four or five hours of sleep a night even on the weekends, a good goal is three times a week. But it's even better than it was before, honest--I guess because you appreciate it more and enjoy it more when you finally get some!

I think people should have MORE sex!
Maybe it should be enforced! Good sex a minimum of twice a week or more would make more happy people. There's too many jerks out there.
Yeah, that would solve all the world's problems! MORE SEX!!
La Terra di Liberta
18-01-2005, 18:06
Well then, lets castrate every man so no more sex can happy? This is so stupid, you seem to think that by removing sex, you erase societie's problems. WRONG! You must think that people want to be dictated what they can and cannot do in their bedrooms or on thier couch (I know theres more). Sex is never said to be evil in any religious book (well under certain circumstances it is, but overall it is not), so I have no idea where the hell you're coming from.
Snorklenork
18-01-2005, 18:19
I'm not sure about the original premise that sex is evil, although there are theories that a lot (if not all) the violent things men do is because of sex. But I would say that I'd be happier if I could remove my interest in sex.
Liskeinland
18-01-2005, 22:03
Sex is sex.. it feels good. If it was not meant to feel good it wouldn't. If only married people were suppose to have sex it wouldn't feel good to have it if you weren't married. This is a ridiculous thread. End of story. Actually, killing 500 people and wading in their blood and eating their hearts can feel good, but it's a… bit morally reprehensible.

I don't think that sex is evil or should be banned. It can be inconvenient at times, and it does ensure the chav population increases (something hot and firey needs to be done about that) but it is not evil, nor is it dangerous. There have never been any wars over sex… no, Helen was NOT the reason Troy was invaded!

I can't comment on sex itself as I am 15 and without attachment. However, Anthrus, most people realise that lust is different from love. Sex does not threaten marriages. I could concede to controlling sexual feelings rigorously perhaps - but banning it outright is not necessary at all.
MegaMullets
18-01-2005, 22:17
What really puzzles me about your argument is what has led you to believe that sexuality is any less worthy than the other primitive instinctual drives that are the driving force behind life itself.
Ultimately, when you take away that which we pine for irrationally and internally, all we are left with is the purely rational realisation that there is no justifying our very existence. Life itself is the quintessential expression of irrational futility, the complex result of an energetic system, striving in vain for continuity and propetuation against the inevitible and inescapable decay of all things in this apathetic universe.
Just accept that if we don't have what we, by internal nature, live for.. we may as well not exist.

This arguement is only true if you deny the existance of a God. If you accept that there is a God who has creaated us for HIS purposes, rather than for us to follow all our irrational desires (eg i have often had the desire to beat my boss to death with a chair. Im sure that by not fufilling this desire i am not, in fact, denying my existance.)
Many of our primal urges are in fact 'less worthy'. The only difference between Sex and the others is that the others have generally been outlawed. New Anthrus just wants to finish getting rid of them.
Liskeinland
18-01-2005, 22:23
This arguement is only true if you deny the existance of a God. If you accept that there is a God who has creaated us for HIS purposes, rather than for us to follow all our irrational desires (eg i have often had the desire to beat my boss to death with a chair. Im sure that by not fufilling this desire i am not, in fact, denying my existance.)
Many of our primal urges are in fact 'less worthy'. The only difference between Sex and the others is that the others have generally been outlawed. New Anthrus just wants to finish getting rid of them. Good point, and what I've been saying in the last topic, more or less. Bones to pick:

•Immature people who say he's stupid because he hasn't "got laid". Neither have I, and that's because I'm only 15 and obviously unmarried.
•People who just say 'NO!" without providing a reason. That's been done on the other forums. Always provide a reason. If you're right, you surely have a better argument.

And no, I don't want to ban sex.
New Anthrus
19-01-2005, 02:08
*sigh*
You know, your argument was almost making sense, not that i agree with it in any way, shape, or form. But then you HAD to go and start talking about how eliminating the need to eat food would do us all good, because of the pleasure involved, blah blah blah. I, personally, have never blown my load while indulging in a hearty steak, and don't expect that to happen in the near future. You're sounding like some kind of fundamentalist uber-modern buddist monk. Don't you realise that because you started this thread, people from all over the world are laughing at you?

I must say though, you're sticking to your guns through all of this criticism, and I congratulate you for that.

I know this has been said before, and a few times, too. But I think it's a very valid point- try it before you knock it. Seriously. Afterwards, come back and I bet a hell of a lot more people will listen seriously to what you have to say.

Well, I only want to see an end to food and drink when it is biologically possible (and I have a feeling it never will be). Therefore, I only say this, in paraphrasing Ben Franklin: One must eat to live, not live to eat.
Bitchkitten
19-01-2005, 03:28
Franklin also said "beer is proof god wants us to be happy."
Kastoria
19-01-2005, 03:35
Sex is good. REALLY good. It helps you get to sleep, and provides excercise. I like sex. :p
The Axiss
19-01-2005, 03:55
The Purpose of Life

Eat
Sleep
Shit
Sex
Die
Prosophia
19-01-2005, 04:39
By nature, sex is evil.

You're right, sex is bad.

And I've been very, very naughty.

I think I need a spanking!

;)
Spencer and Wellington
19-01-2005, 04:52
Sex is double plus bad! Join the junior anti-sex brigade today!

Wouldn't it be double plus ungood? But thats beside the point. I wonder if the creator of this thread is a virgin...
MegaMullets
19-01-2005, 12:49
i fail to see the relevance. I have never burned down a forest, but i know that it would be enjoyable and also evil. does weather new anthrus has or has not had sex have any effect on his perceptions of if it is evil or not? it shouldnt.
Neo-Anarchists
19-01-2005, 12:50
You're right, sex is bad.

And I've been very, very naughty.

I think I need a spanking!

;)
Ooh, we all need spankings!

Then tie us to the bed, and have your way with us!

(hooray for gratuitous theft of Monty Python quotes! albeit, butchered Monty Python quotes...)
Prosophia
19-01-2005, 15:30
Ooh, we all need spankings!

And then the oral sex!
Nation of Fortune
19-01-2005, 16:45
And then the oral sex!
There aren't too many of them! I can take them! I Swear!
Tsrill
19-01-2005, 17:01
You can also think of sex as a worldwide addiction that prevents us from spending the energy in another way. Look at 90% of the reactions in this thread to see what I mean with addiction.
In that aspect you could claim it is evil.
Lascivious Maximus
19-01-2005, 17:01
and whats worse... it rots the teeth!
*smiles a gummy smile*
Atraeus
19-01-2005, 19:13
Yeah, lets ban sex. In only a few hundred years maybe our sexual organs will wither and die. Then we won't even think about sex! Of course the human race will die out, but thats just a minor detail.
Skalador
19-01-2005, 19:36
Sex is good. Love is even better.

For someone to say that sex is evil means either that have some serious case of self-hatred of you basic bodily functions, or that you've never tried it yet :D

C'mon, try it. You know you want it :-P
New Granada
19-01-2005, 20:27
i fail to see the relevance. I have never burned down a forest, but i know that it would be enjoyable and also evil. does weather new anthrus has or has not had sex have any effect on his perceptions of if it is evil or not? it shouldnt.


Yes it certainly does.

Burning down a forrest or attacking somone is an act of aggression and destruction and as such bad.

Sex is neither an aggressive nor destructive act, and while a highly selective (and therefore unrepresentative and irrelevent) sample of the 'results of sex' can paint a false picture of sex as a wholy bad and negative thing.

Somone with a wide range of life experiences has the perspective required to genuinely understand that in spite of the problems sex can sometimes create, it is a wonderful thing in the aggregate.
Soviet Sires
19-01-2005, 20:45
Sex is good. Sex with someone you love (or someone with whom you share some other sort of positive emotional connection) is much, much better.

End of story.

Agreed!!
The Roxburry
19-01-2005, 20:47
what ever I love it cant get enough of it and it should be manditory for every one to do it at least 3 times a day!
New Anthrus
19-01-2005, 22:30
You can also think of sex as a worldwide addiction that prevents us from spending the energy in another way. Look at 90% of the reactions in this thread to see what I mean with addiction.
In that aspect you could claim it is evil.
True.
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 02:10
bump
Jayastan
21-01-2005, 02:17
Can one still have bum sex with a willing female? :confused:


:rolleyes: All in all, a silly thread, stop reading bad science fiction dude, we are made to have sex and we do indeed develop a strong emtional dependance on a certain someone. We will nto be able to "breed" out either characteristic very soon.


Live long and prosper...
Noraniastan
21-01-2005, 02:23
Obviously, those of you who think that sex is evil aren't getting any.

End of story.
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 02:23
Can one still have bum sex with a willing female? :confused:

No. There is too much negative energy. Quite frankly, I think it be no different if a male stuck his penis in a female's ear.
Nation of Fortune
21-01-2005, 02:23
bump
let it die already
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 02:24
let it die already
Why should I?
Jayastan
21-01-2005, 02:24
No. There is too much negative energy. Quite frankly, I think it be no different if a male stuck his penis in a female's ear.


hmmm im wondering how that might fit....

i guess you could ninja it in somehow....
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 02:36
hmmm im wondering how that might fit....

i guess you could ninja it in somehow....
No. Too impractical.
Necros-Vacuia
21-01-2005, 02:36
Why should I?

Because it's a really, really, really terrible idea. You propose we mandate asexuality.

That's like mandating that "ALL PEOPLE MUST CHANGE THEIR SKIN COLOR BECAUSE SKIN COLOR DIFFERENCES CAUSE RACISM. ALSO, NO ONE CAN EAT FATTY FOODS BECAUSE THEY MAKE YOU FAT. EVERYONE MUST NOW BECOME ATHEIST BECAUSE RELIGION CAN MANIPULATE PEOPLE. THIS IS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD."

I have another mandate.

"STUPID PEOPLE SHOULD SHUT UP BECAUSE WHEN THEY TALK, I START STRANGLING KITTENS AND BUNNIES. STOP THE SLAUGHTER OF KITTENS AND BUNNIES. SHUT THE HELL UP NOW."
Nation of Fortune
21-01-2005, 02:40
Why should I?
this why (http://www.mlcsmith.com/humor/art/god-kills-kitten.jpg)
New Granada
21-01-2005, 02:42
Why should I?


Because by now it should start to dawn on your that the idea isnt a good one.

You are familiar with the expression "beating a dead horse?"
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 02:42
this why (http://www.mlcsmith.com/humor/art/god-kills-kitten.jpg)
I never found that stuff funny. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, kittens, despite their cuteness, are primative animals worthy only to serve their human masters. Why should I be moved by a kitten?
Nation of Fortune
21-01-2005, 02:46
I never found that stuff funny. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, kittens, despite their cuteness, are primative animals worthy only to serve their human masters. Why should I be moved by a kitten?
firs toff it was a joke, secondly you have beaten the horse to death by now, and your begining to turn it into ground meat.
if that isn't enough, you did one other thread that got to 68 pages, mostly of which people told you how stupid you were, which this one will undoubtedly turn into. I personally don't think your stupid, just a little misguided and persistant.
Snub Nose 38
21-01-2005, 02:46
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.About 35 quadrillion years, give or take a week...

If you're serious, you're a nut case.
Janistania
21-01-2005, 02:46
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

Translation:
"I don't get laid, nobody gets laid!"


You're all very welcome.
Ootersland
21-01-2005, 02:48
People should not stop having sex, it should just be regulated:

For two people to have sex the must be registered partners (registration would cost $500 and must be renewed anually).

To obtain registration, you must be over the age of 18 or have parental consent. You must also have a sex license.

A sex license requires both a physical and mental examinations, along with blood tests. These will be sent to a court where you must appear before the judge to determine whether you should be allowed to have sex. The license would cost $1000 and must be renewed every 5 years.
New Granada
21-01-2005, 02:50
People should not stop having sex, it should just be regulated:

For two people to have sex the must be registered partners (registration would cost $500 and must be renewed anually).

To obtain registration, you must be over the age of 18 or have parental consent. You must also have a sex license.

A sex license requires both a physical and mental examinations, along with blood tests. These will be sent to a court where you must appear before the judge to determine whether you should be allowed to have sex. The license would cost $1000 and must be renewed every 5 years.


Not quite so dumb and unrealistic as "how about everyone stop having sex" but close.
Branin
21-01-2005, 02:51
I never found that stuff funny. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, kittens, despite their cuteness, are primative animals worthy only to serve their human masters. Why should I be moved by a kitten?
Cause as of right now, they appear to have a better view on life than you.
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 02:53
firs toff it was a joke, secondly you have beaten the horse to death by now, and your begining to turn it into ground meat.
if that isn't enough, you did one other thread that got to 68 pages, mostly of which people told you how stupid you were, which this one will undoubtedly turn into. I personally don't think your stupid, just a little misguided and persistant.
I knew it was a joke, and I was responding in kind. I guess I have a quirky sense of humor.
But really, in those 68 pages, hardly anything was said other than you and Armandian Cheeses.
Nation of Fortune
21-01-2005, 02:54
I knew it was a joke, and I was responding in kind. I guess I have a quirky sense of humor.
But really, in those 68 pages, hardly anything was said other than you and Armandian Cheeses.
you do have a point, which is why I'm sort of staying out of this one, but I don't see this one being much different
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 02:56
you do have a point, which is why I'm sort of staying out of this one, but I don't see this one being much different
Maybe some more good debators will respond. I was close when I netted in Zeppistan, but he didn't say much.
Nation of Fortune
21-01-2005, 02:57
Maybe some more good debators will respond. I was close when I netted in Zeppistan, but he didn't say much.
well good luck with that
Mirkai
21-01-2005, 03:00
Sex is Bad

You forgot the "M'kay?"
Frogshopper
21-01-2005, 03:00
So the fact that my husband and I had sex yesterday makes us evil?
What about the fact that we were both virgins when we got married? Does that count for nothing? What makes you think that people would ever not DESIRE sex? GOD didn't make us as people who like it because he wanted us to be deprived of it. It's as natural as poop. :fluffle:
Mettatron
21-01-2005, 03:02
:headbang:

Dude (or Dudette), obviously you never have had sex before, otherwise, you wouldn't be saying this! Sex is a beautiful thing. So is Love. There is somewhat of a difference. Although, in my hmble opinion, one makes the other better. There is nothing wrong with sex itself, with having sex, with thinking about sex, ect.

I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires. :(

Stop reading books like "Brave New World" or "1984", with the whole "No sex in the future" schtick. If you can't realise that these books are satirizing and poking fun at right-wing conservative nut jobs like you, then you need to stop reading these sort of books, they aren't intended for people immature to say "Sex is bad and wrong."

Wait till you hit puberty, then you like the women (or men).

People like you piss me off!
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 03:02
So the fact that my husband and I had sex yesterday makes us evil?
What about the fact that we were both virgins when we got married? Does that count for nothing? What makes you think that people would ever not DESIRE sex? GOD didn't make us as people who like it because he wanted us to be deprived of it. It's as natural as poop. :fluffle:
If God didn't mean us to overcome temptation, why did He allow humans to advance?
Salvius
21-01-2005, 03:03
Have you read the books Brave New World or 1984?

Do you really want a world like that? I know I wouldn't, and I will die to protect my right to have sex, or do anything else for that matter, as long as it is not harmfull to others. Conscentual sex is not harmful, if carried out responsibly. Your reasonings are idiotic, and your vision for the furture of the world is a world that I hope I never live in. Life in a world like that is not truly life. Its the bad things that happen, and all the experiences we have, good and bad, that make life worth living.
The Heterosexual Dog
21-01-2005, 03:04
wait...you know what? whoever the FUCK started this thread....GO FUCKING KILL YOURSELF, AND THEN YOU WON'T HAVE TO HAVE SEX, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO FUCKING HEAR YOU.
Frogshopper
21-01-2005, 03:05
by the way... I can only think of three reasons you would write that in the first place.

ahem...

1. You ain't gettin any and you're jealous or want to make it look like it's a decision you're making rather than one that's being made for you.

2. You're really just wanted to see a lot of people go off about something you really don't believe either. (thus the "I didn't get much response, let's try this again, attitude)

3. You're really a phsycotic puritan or were raised by phsycotic puritans.
So which is it?
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 03:06
Have you read the books Brave New World or 1984?

Do you really want a world like that? I know I wouldn't, and I will die to protect my right to have sex, or do anything else for that matter, as long as it is not harmfull to others. Conscentual sex is not harmful, if carried out responsibly. Your reasonings are idiotic, and your vision for the furture of the world is a world that I hope I never live in. Life in a world like that is not truly life. Its the bad things that happen, and all the experiences we have, good and bad, that make life worth living.
I've actually read both of those books. They had some serious flaws in their thinking, especially George Orwell. Orwell was far too emotional, and played off that in all of his books.
Raven_Moonfire
21-01-2005, 03:09
Sex is good.. end of story.. anyone who argues otherwise.. is a virgin.. or has been raped.. if this is the case.. virgins go get laid.. ones who have been raped.. go havesex with someone you like
Zahumlje
21-01-2005, 03:22
Artificial insemenation costs money, sex is free. Also sex feels good, nature made it that way so that we would do it and procreate.

Oh yah and also, usually when a thread gets low turnout, there's a reason.

Another thing, artificially produced babies might not have as much physical vigor, they would be the products of a cold transaction and not of even animal passion.
Love combined with lust produces the best offspring, love alone produces the next bes, and lust alone the best after that. The absence of any of these factors results in weak offspring. Sex has a definate place in the well being of any specis which reproduces sexually.
Most problems to do with sex really have to do with when society fails to accomadate the NATURAL place of sex at the correct ages for it.
This happens when the economics of makeing a family become too complex, when raising a family becomes too expensive.
People are meant to begin families pretty soon after puberty, the age of which is gradually lower, but cannot afford to have a family due to economics sometimes until ages 25-30 due to economics. This leads to needless and cruel frustrations.
No it's not sex which is bad, but the incorrect priorities of sick societies which are instead evil.
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 03:24
wait...you know what? whoever the FUCK started this thread....GO FUCKING KILL YOURSELF, AND THEN YOU WON'T HAVE TO HAVE SEX, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO FUCKING HEAR YOU.
While that would work, I think it might cause complications resulting in death for some. Death has the world's highest fatality rate, you know.
Tvaya Vraga
21-01-2005, 03:26
He's right. Sex should be banned. So should kissing, hugging, hand holding and oral sex. It's disgusting and wrong. Shit, all physcial contact (except for violence) is wrong. All of it should be made illegal. If you're caught doing it, jail for life. Sodomizers, lesbians, gays and people who masturbate should be beheaded.
In a perfect world, babies would be spayed or neutered when they were 6 months old and cloning would be the way of procreation.
All you people who like sex are weird and need to be cleansed or killed.

Now someone get me a dictionary, I need to look up sarcasm.
Enchanted Toasters
21-01-2005, 03:28
Love combined with lust produces the best offspring, love alone produces the next bes, and lust alone the best after that. The absence of any of these factors results in weak offspring.

How does that work? Genes are genes, why does it matter how they are combined (assuming the same sperm/egg cells are used in both cases)?
Frogshopper
21-01-2005, 03:45
If God didn't mean us to overcome temptation, why did He allow humans to advance?

I'm not sure I follow. What does temptation have to do with human advancement? :confused:
New Anthrus
21-01-2005, 03:48
I'm not sure I follow. What does temptation have to do with human advancement? :confused:
Because it allows us to overcome temptation by eliminating it. Is gluttony as life threatening to others as, say, a thousand years ago?
Salvius
21-01-2005, 03:55
I've actually read both of those books. They had some serious flaws in their thinking, especially George Orwell. Orwell was far too emotional, and played off that in all of his books.


Emotional? Emotion is what makes Humans Human. Why do you belive we should all stop eating and sleeping and having sex? There must be some reason? Please tell me, as I have trouble understanding why anyone would want to become a mindless empty sell of a person.
Terra Formi
21-01-2005, 04:07
I rather liked <u>1984</u>. There were a lot of good ideas in that book.

I think sex is, or will become very soon, obsolete. I can't wait for the day that they are able to combine DNA without it! (By the way, I think eventually, they might get it to work for two men, though there would be a chance that the specimen born would have two Y chromosomes and be inviable.)

Of course, we could also just kill all humans. That's a good solution in my mind. Humans are bad, bad things! Look at how you're fighting with each other over an institution that has existed for hundreds of thousands of years without being questioned, and without which, you wouldn't exist?

Of COURSE sex is bad, it begot all you people!
Cubital fossa
21-01-2005, 04:08
sex is the most fun two consenting people can have with each other.
:fluffle:
everybody needs to get it on...
The Cult of Pi
21-01-2005, 04:08
Sex is double plus bad! Join the junior anti-sex brigade today!
wouldn't that be "doubleplusungood?...get your newspeak right...lest you be"found"....j/k...1984 aside...yeah man...stop with this rhetorical nonsense..sex is sex...it won't stop...and it's not bad...if we stopped trying to find a cure for AIDS then guess what?...it'd be eradicated naturally...just put people with AIDS in colonies like lepers and BAM...no more AIDS...(I wish life were that simple but it's not) so really...you cannot state the OPINION that "sex is bad" as a solid fact...sorry if this seems a tad out of charachter..but your last thread failed...and there was a reason for it
Cyrian space
21-01-2005, 04:10
sex causes emotional bonds between people. However, a far worse fate than being emotionally bonded with people is... not being emotionally bonded with people.
Nation of Fortune
21-01-2005, 04:17
However, a far worse fate than being emotionally bonded with people is... not being emotionally bonded with people.
Indeed it does, but only when you do get emotionally bonded to someone, does it hurt, cause you realize what you've been missing.

and then you get shattered, and decide to go back to not having emotions, but you can't. I don't really want to go into details, but I've been hurt really bad by someone really close to me, I closed other people out for 6 years. Recently I found someone I really care about, they were hurt by someone too. I showed emotions she did for a bit, then closed up cause she's afraid I'll hurt her, Now I still care for her, but am trying to close my emotions, but I can't quite seem to.
Cyrian space
21-01-2005, 04:42
And then you will be alone. And that is the saddest fate I can imagine.

What you are practicing is a sort of emotional anorexia. Love, acceptance, friendship, all these are emotional needs. Not having them won't kill you, but it will drive you completely insane.

you state experience of love, and pain. And I can state a great deal of experience in being alone. And being alone is far the worse fate.
Nation of Fortune
21-01-2005, 04:45
And then you will be alone. And that is the saddest fate I can imagine.

What you are practicing is a sort of emotional anorexia. Love, acceptance, friendship, all these are emotional needs. Not having them won't kill you, but it will drive you completely insane.

you state experience of love, and pain. And I can state a great deal of experience in being alone. And being alone is far the worse fate.
just being hurt that much by your very own mother digs deep down into your soul, even thinking about it burns. I hate whining so I'll shut up
Cyrian space
21-01-2005, 04:48
indeed, some emotional bonds are to love what poison is to food.
Neo-Anarchists
21-01-2005, 04:49
just being hurt that much by your very own mother digs deep down into your soul, even thinking about it burns. I hate whining so I'll shut up
I'll shut up preemptively, because if I get to talking about me, the only way to stop me is another dose of my meds and something to knock me out.
:p
Neo-Anarchists
21-01-2005, 04:50
indeed, some emotional bonds are to love what poison is to food.
Your writing style is interesting. I like it.
It's elegant without being too sophisticated, yet it's very urgent.
I know I'm way off topic, but I just thought I'd say that.
Cyrian space
21-01-2005, 04:58
I'm an aspiring writer poet, and I just read through the Jabberwock poem a few times. I was just feeling it.
Nation of Fortune
21-01-2005, 04:59
I'll shut up preemptively, because if I get to talking about me, the only way to stop me is another dose of my meds and something to knock me out.
:p
sounds like tons of fun, if I talk, I'll get angry and hurt myself or someone else. Last time I really thought about it, I managed to burn myself across my forehead
Cyrian space
21-01-2005, 05:15
I managed to burn myself across my forehead
ow...
I think maybe you should see a psychologist.
Draconis Federation
21-01-2005, 05:15
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.
Dude, you got dumped didn't you, your crazy. Dude we need to reproduce that way, not every one can afford artificial insemination. And besides, we are a social species, not only that but entercorse has major benifits, such as, swaping of nessecary chemicals not recieved any other way, immunization cells, and even stress releif, a major factor in stress releif. Which allows us to live longer. So please don't rant and rave about a subject you know very little about.
Nation of Fortune
21-01-2005, 05:18
ow...
I think maybe you should see a psychologist.
I am
Neo-Anarchists
21-01-2005, 05:21
sounds like tons of fun, if I talk, I'll get angry and hurt myself or someone else. Last time I really thought about it, I managed to burn myself across my forehead
I don't really get angry, myself. I have 2 moods: Horribly depressed and manic.
Forehead? That must've been a bad one.
:(
Draconis Federation
21-01-2005, 05:27
And your statement that relationships end because of sex, you are wrong, only when our bodies genetic material begins to break down resulting in weaker genetics, do our bodies stop producing the chemicals that stimulate sexual excitement. Not because sex is evil, in fact all those who claim something to be evil don't know anything about it and are afaid of it. After we stop contributing genetics to the future generations we are no longer needed genetically so we begin to teach future generations using our knowlege.

And if people kept their bodies in shape then they would still be sexually active well into their retirement age. Thus proving personal health atributes to sexual health and the benefits of sex.

So you sir are a bafoon and an uter fool.
Draconis Federation
21-01-2005, 05:34
Relationships never end because of sex, but because of social change and personal reasons, not sex. Grow a little before you start posting, also just casue you got burned don't mean you're right.
Zack69
21-01-2005, 05:37
sex is wonderful, what's wrong with you?!?!?!?! :fluffle:
Armandian Cheese
21-01-2005, 05:38
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.
Look, I agree with you, but...low turnout? It was over a 1000 posts!
Draconis Federation
21-01-2005, 05:41
And most disagreed with you, I know I read them. :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
Just deal sex will never go out of style.
Branin
21-01-2005, 05:48
*sneaks in*

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

*sneaks out*
Mettatron
22-01-2005, 00:33
Emotional? Emotion is what makes Humans Human. Why do you belive we should all stop eating and sleeping and having sex? There must be some reason? Please tell me, as I have trouble understanding why anyone would want to become a mindless empty sell of a person.

Well I'm "More Human than Human" (great song, by the way), does that make me more sexual and emotional? :D

By the way, great point.
Janers place
22-01-2005, 00:39
Sex Is Good. Mmmmmkay
BlatantSillyness
22-01-2005, 00:41
these threads are even better than Lacs "the holocaust never happened" masterpiece, I take my hat off to ya New Anthrus ;)
Hyinda
22-01-2005, 00:42
it won't get you anywhere complaining about this because it will never be a diminished problem...not even saying it's a problem
Boolari
22-01-2005, 00:46
Um, right. Have fun with that New Anthrus....a future where you masturbate into a cup when you want children. Wait, isn't masturbation a sin? Guess that doesn't work either.
LOL!!!

Anyway, sex is sex, lust is lust, and love is love - don't confuse the three.

Are you saying ALL sex is bad or sex when you aren't married is bad?
Atica
22-01-2005, 01:05
I wouldn't know.
New Anthrus
22-01-2005, 04:07
Look, I agree with you, but...low turnout? It was over a 1000 posts!
Well, it was the same people over and over again, and few of the good debators (you being a notable exceptiion) showed up.
Frogshopper
22-01-2005, 05:41
Okay, so let's say the whole point of sex IS to overcome temptation. Let's say the whole point of eating and sleeeping is to overcome temptation and that it is (hypothetically) now biologically possible to go without food or sleep. What kind of life would that be? What would our going without achieve?
I see that it would make us bitter. I see that it would make people in general less happy and fulfilled. I think that certain things were put here for our enjoyment as much as for our physical need.
However, I do believe in "all things in moderation." We do have sex addicts who put thier bodies and emotional states (not to mention OTHER's emotional states) at risk. In much the same way there are people who are addicted to food. These people put thier lives at risk, which, in and of itself can have mental/emotional consequences not to mention that the very fact that these people are "unattractive" may be extremely detrimental to thier self-esteem. There are also those who are lazy. These would love to sleep more than they are awake. This leads to physical, emotional, and mental harm.
But all three of the afforementioned "problems" may be very beneficial emotionally and physically if practiced in moderation.
Frogshopper
22-01-2005, 21:38
Wow! How's that for an abrupt stop?
The Pyrenees
22-01-2005, 21:43
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.


Isn't sex just a physical expression of an abstract concept of love? And now sex isn't neccesary for our physical procreation, it maybe becomes more worthwhile- like art- pointless and perfect.

Anyway, just because it's pointless, doesn't mean it's evil. Not only that, it helps a relationship develop. It's something I share only with my boyfriend, to show him he's special to me, and because it gives him a physical sensation that hopefully is equivocal to how he makes me feel in my heart.
New Anthrus
23-01-2005, 19:02
Isn't sex just a physical expression of an abstract concept of love? And now sex isn't neccesary for our physical procreation, it maybe becomes more worthwhile- like art- pointless and perfect.

Anyway, just because it's pointless, doesn't mean it's evil. Not only that, it helps a relationship develop. It's something I share only with my boyfriend, to show him he's special to me, and because it gives him a physical sensation that hopefully is equivocal to how he makes me feel in my heart.
However, sex leaves physical dependence on a person, but it disguises itself as an emotional complex. On top of that, sex-induced "feelings" offer no room for reason.
New Anthrus
23-01-2005, 19:10
Okay, so let's say the whole point of sex IS to overcome temptation. Let's say the whole point of eating and sleeeping is to overcome temptation and that it is (hypothetically) now biologically possible to go without food or sleep. What kind of life would that be? What would our going without achieve?
I see that it would make us bitter. I see that it would make people in general less happy and fulfilled. I think that certain things were put here for our enjoyment as much as for our physical need.
However, I do believe in "all things in moderation." We do have sex addicts who put thier bodies and emotional states (not to mention OTHER's emotional states) at risk. In much the same way there are people who are addicted to food. These people put thier lives at risk, which, in and of itself can have mental/emotional consequences not to mention that the very fact that these people are "unattractive" may be extremely detrimental to thier self-esteem. There are also those who are lazy. These would love to sleep more than they are awake. This leads to physical, emotional, and mental harm.
But all three of the afforementioned "problems" may be very beneficial emotionally and physically if practiced in moderation.
Sure. And it put reason out of your private life.
Frogshopper
23-01-2005, 20:17
Ok, New Anthrus. I don't understand you. I mean that in more ways than one. WHAT put reason out of my private life? What does that mean? :confused:
Kittenslovakia
24-01-2005, 04:06
The Beauty is in the flaws..
Ever noticed that all that is passionate in human nature is a 'sin'?
Sex may seem unclean.. even revolting to a person who has never really experienced love, and certainly the act itself could be considered less than civilised, but it is a beautiful thing, as is love. Without love you may as well be a computer.. though I gather from your previous comments accross the board that you may just be.. reffering to the eunuch who started this thread that is..
But if you are in fact human, get over yourself. Be Human. You are at present I think, far too arrogant to love another living being- as you could not respect anyone else, infinitely superior as you are.
You cannot acctually become flawless.. so just accept your emotions and 'primitive urges'. It may feel a little odd at first.. but it is ultimately the most liberating thing you will ever do.. (and the most useful)
PS. do not pick me up on spelling, grammar or punctuation, I write this as I would say it, and I just don't care.
For all your apparent intelligence you have no social skills.
Snorklenork
24-01-2005, 07:47
sex causes emotional bonds between people. However, a far worse fate than being emotionally bonded with people is... not being emotionally bonded with people.
Unless you're schizoid, in which case it's fine.

All these posts seem very one sided. It's either: sex is really good, or sex is really bad. In reality there's upsides and downsides. The upsides:
It's enjoyable for most people,
It strengthens emotional attachments,
It results in babies and
Can drive horny single men (and possibly women) to do great things to try and attract a mate (most male scientists do their best work when they're uninvolved with someone and earlier in life).

The downsides:
STDs,
Addiction for some,
Can drive horney single men to do bad things (rape, larceny),
Creates babies (if you live in an overpopulated area, it's not great) and
I'm not getting any. ;)

There's others I'm sure, but it's just a rough list...
Delator
24-01-2005, 10:19
I posted a previous thread on this, but I believe it got a low turnout. So I'm trying again.
By nature, sex is evil. It leaves physical dependency between two people, and this disguises itself as love. The end of this physical need happens to be the end of many a relationship, whether the couple realizes it or not. The worst part is that it isn't needed. Sex was designed for the survival of the human race. However, that isn't necessary anymore. Artificial semination and such can do the job just as effectively.
I envision a future where no one has sex, as no one desires it. It is primative and destructive to the human mind and spirit. But I know that it will take an extremely long time for humans to overcome their primative desires.

By nature, sex is probably the best thing human beings can do, or have the desire to do. Bad PEOPLE can make sex a bad thing, but sex in and of itself is probably the least corrupted thing humanity can take part in.

Sex disguises itself as love? Sure, sometimes. Love can also disguise itself as sex. Many couples start having sex, never expecting to carry the relationship any further...then end up being in a happy and committed relationship for the rest of their lives. Explain that.

I've never heard of a relationship ending because of sex because of the two people in the relationship. Sure, when one partner cheats, a relationship often ends, but the sex between to two partners was not the reason for the relationship ending. More often it's a lack of sex between partners that results in cheating...or even more often, something completely unrelated to sex.

Sex isn't needed? Then don't have any. I myself enjoy it, and will continue to enjoy it for as long as I am able.

I feel sorry for you that you long for such a cold and bleak future. I sincerely hope this thread was simply to get reactions from people...because I myself would not want to live in the future to which you claim to look foward to.

Sex between two people who love each other, or even just care deeply about one another, is NOT destructive to the human mind and spirit. Indeed, it is the most refreshing and constructive act the human spirit can engage in.

Oh, and if you were actually serious...seek help...quickly!
Branin
24-01-2005, 10:21
Oh, and if you were actually serious...seek help...quickly!

Very quickly. For your childrens sake.:D
The Genetic Impaired
24-01-2005, 20:46
I agree!
Sex is very bad!!
And I am a very naughty boy!
Can someone punish me?
Please................

But seriously: If you think it's bad, then don't do it and bore yourself to death.
Eris23
24-01-2005, 21:32
What I find disgusting and disturbing is how moralists focus on sexuality as horrible and bad, yet never raise their voices about humans killing one another in the name of god, country, whatever.

Up with sex, down with violence.
Superpower07
24-01-2005, 21:35
I'm safe and secure (http://www.markfiore.com/animation/security.html) when it comes to sex . . . but Mr Santorum sure isn't!

Hey New Anthrus, can I call you Rick Santorum?
Germachinia
24-01-2005, 21:38
BAAASTARDS! I LOVE SEX! I SEX LOVE! YOU'LL NEVER STOP ME FROM IT! YOU'LL BE FORTH TO DIE, WHEN I'M GRAND TYRAND, RIGHT AFTER THOSE GUYS WHO POSTED THE :rolleyes: AND THAT GUY WHO STOLE MY EVIL SCHEME!