Why do people hate the US? - Page 2
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 22:51
my intelligence? well the fact that i actually have opinions on things does make me intelligent. oh and because we do live in america and it is a free country i can fuckin wank off to any porn i like you limey bastard.
BWAHAHA!!! Oh ye of truely miniscule reading comprehension skills, abandon all hope. I am a born and bred American citizen. I am PROUD of my heritage but not of my current leadership, nor of bitchy little twits who darken MY nation's reputation by behaving like spoiled rotten rich kids who didn't pay attention in school.
EVERYONE has an opinion, son, and let me be the first to clue you in on a little secret -- having them doesn't make you smart... and sometimes stating them makes the lack of smart undeniable, as you have proven quite aptly. Mouthing off to a bunch of people who aren't Americans while in a thread discussing why Americans have such a bad rap by saying that Americans are smarter, richer and more powerful than the rest of the global community REGARDLESS of the accuracy of your boasts ONLY goes to proove that you are arrogant, tactless, insesnitive and quite unconcerned with improving perceptions of Americans in general.
I find it laughable that anyone who has the nerve to brand any American who isn't kissing the ass of an ignorant rich-boy psycho from Texas who swears to the world that ALMIGHTY GOD HIMSELF is telling him how to dictate domestic and foriegn policy while raping a middle eastern nation for oil while spewing lies about democracy and making America safe while he lines his own family's pockets (OMGz I could go on for hours) as LIBERALS can call themselves intelligent. Sounds more along the lines of... how do they put this in Bush Country..? Oh yeah... butt stupid.
You don't have to be a foriegner or a "damned liberal" to know that George W has got serious issues and should never have been alowed his first term of office, much less this second one and that the crap he's pulling NOT JUST ABROAD but here at home in America is more than cause for concern. You also don't need to be either to see why people from other countries don't much care for Americans when people like yourself confront them with this amazing caricature of American arrogance and stupidity.
Just stop it.
yes but not in my lifetime. well and you have to factor in the fact that our government constantly changes because of elections and our flexible constitution where we can add amendments. i wouldnt say we are in danger of falling from our mountain peak any time soon
what countries can stand up to the united states?
no one can, i admit...but you shouldnt be worrying about that, your superb american education should of taught you that the sun revolves round the united states. anyway, is world domination and oil at your top priorities at the moment?
Permalast
05-01-2005, 22:51
what countries can stand up to the united states?
Beleive it or not North Korea. They have trained hackers that have spent years analising US computer networks, systems and programs. They are more than capeable of crashing their stockmarket or re directiong missiles if they want to.
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 22:55
Most of the nations that hate us aren't free countries. there's exceptions like France the French are rude and stuck up. should I mention the oil for food program?
oil and world domination? oil is the past, and the world is already dominated. alternative energy is in the rise and then the middle east will just be a hotbed for radical theocracy with no real resources. i think america should just keep on keeping on until someone gets in our buisness like saddam and the terrorists did and we are dealing with them right now
Cowering Pacifists
05-01-2005, 22:56
They make awful movies! They bathe too much! They dare to be religious! And one word...McDonalds!!! If I had the funds, I'd move to a paradise like Cuba, North Korea, Togo or France.
Most of the nations that hate us aren't free countries. there's exceptions like France the French are rude and stuck up. should I mention the oil for food program?
the english hate u, i feel pretty free
Nookyoolerr Strategery
05-01-2005, 22:58
Before I begin, I would just like to say I am a US citizen.
In recent wars, when the US was a part of a major coalition against the "evil" powers, i.e. WWI and WWII, we usually kicked the other side's a$$. Then look at Vietnam and Iraq. We're going it alone (or, at best, with GB and Israel). Where have we gotten in Iraq? It is more dangerous to live in Iraq today than it was while Saddam was in power. Not that I like Saddam or anything. Saddam is up on the Wall of Famous Dictators, along wiht Hitler, Stalin, and Bush.
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 22:58
oil and world domination? oil is the past, and the world is already dominated. alternative energy is in the rise and then the middle east will just be a hotbed for radical theocracy with no real resources. i think america should just keep on keeping on until someone gets in our buisness like saddam and the terrorists did and we are dealing with them right now
OMGz nothing to see here, move along now....
Dude... please...just stop digging any deeper...
Besides... you're making Baby Jesus cry...
Just cut it out.
They make awful movies! They bathe too much! They dare to be religious! And one word...McDonalds!!! If I had the funds, I'd move to a paradise like Cuba, North Korea, Togo or France.
and people were calling me biased. look at this commie. better dead than red bitches
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:00
no one can, i admit...but you shouldnt be worrying about that, your superb american education should of taught you that the sun revolves round the united states. anyway, is world domination and oil at your top priorities at the moment
what country are you from again? Your right we are the most powerful we have the best education. I realize you envy us but please get over it.
your beer sucks.
Very True... And I'm an American
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:00
Most of the nations that hate us aren't free countries. there's exceptions like France the French are rude and stuck up. should I mention the oil for food program?
Oh FFS how many times do I have to tell you kids to lay off the French already????
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:01
They bathe too much
sorry we don't like to smell
Before I begin, I would just like to say I am a US citizen.
In recent wars, when the US was a part of a major coalition against the "evil" powers, i.e. WWI and WWII, we usually kicked the other side's a$$. Then look at Vietnam and Iraq. We're going it alone (or, at best, with GB and Israel). Where have we gotten in Iraq? It is more dangerous to live in Iraq today than it was while Saddam was in power. Not that I like Saddam or anything. Saddam is up on the Wall of Famous Dictators, along wiht Hitler, Stalin, and Bush.
What i really hate about you americans, is how you always, always take the credit for WW2, yes we couldnt f done it without you but-
-you showed up late
-you always forget about other countrys like canada
i am british, and i HATE the us
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:02
Very True... And I'm an American
Worst.
Beer.
Ever.
We don't even get decent imports. Bleah!
we showed up late? you fuckers started it with the whole appeasement thing so why dont you take your british education and shove it up your arse
Did anyone know, that 39% of americans a pretending to be canadian, because there embarased of there own country???
you guys suck :sniper:
Marderia
05-01-2005, 23:04
LBK is the answer to this thread.
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:04
we showed up late? you fuckers started it with the whole appeasement thing so why dont you take your british education and shove it up your arse
Oh for the LOVE OF GOD LBK, even crappy public schools here in the states make passing mention that we showed up late for both World Wars... GET A CLUE.
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:05
What i really hate about you americans, is how you always, always take the credit for WW2, yes we couldnt f done it without you but-
-you showed up late
-you always forget about other countrys like canada
i am british, and i HATE the us
okay the next time your getting bombed you all can just suffer. we did show up late but if wasn't for us the Nazis would rule Europe. I have nothing agaisnt the British you jist made me mad.
Nookyoolerr Strategery
05-01-2005, 23:06
Ironically, the greatest threat to the US is... the US. The only groups that dare challenge the US are N. Korea, Iran, and Al-Qaeda. All 3 are mere bugs compared to the US. On the other hand, it is much more likely that a civil war between the liberals and conservatives will tear the US apart.
For the record, I am Anti-Bush. However, unlike the everyday liberal, it is for one unbending reason: He shits on the Constitution. If Any President (whether it be Bush, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Cheney, Ashcroft, Satan, etc.)dares take away MY right to speak freely, he deserves to burn in hell for all eternity.
we showed up late? you fuckers started it with the whole appeasement thing so why dont you take your british education and shove it up your arse
sorry, but we didnt want tobecome german. why dont you go and bomb japan again? you are a sad american tosser. i think you should shove you shotgun up your fat american ar£e and go to hell
[QUOTE=Chocolate Bar]no one can, i admit...but you shouldnt be worrying about that, your superb american education should of taught you that the sun revolves round the united states. anyway, is world domination and oil at your top priorities at the moment QUOTE]
I wonder why most foreigners travel to the US for college?
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:07
Did anyone know, that 39% of americans a pretending to be canadian, because there embarased of there own country???
I'll beileve that one when you show me where you got it from
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:08
Did anyone know, that 39% of americans a pretending to be canadian, because there embarased of there own country???
you guys suck :sniper:
Okay, I'd turn you over my knee to beat some manners into you, but I've discovered that most people think that's a reward. Kinda like threatening to slap some sense into LBK's kind... <EYEROLL>
Rabola, go into the moron corner with LBK please and stop turning a perfectly intelligent discussion into a gradeschool babyfight.
okay the next time your getting bombed you all can just suffer. we did show up late but if wasn't for us the Nazis would rule Europe. I have nothing agaisnt the British you jist made me mad.
cheak your spelling, oh...sorry i forgot, you don't know how to spell
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:09
no one can, i admit...but you shouldnt be worrying about that, your superb american education should of taught you that the sun revolves round the united states. anyway, is world domination and oil at your top priorities at the moment QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I wonder why most foreigners travel to the US for college
I'm not foreign and I didn't post that but it says I did.
Okay, I'd turn you over my knee to beat some manners into you, but I've discovered that most people think that's a reward. Kinda like threatening to slap some sense into LBK's kind... <EYEROLL>
Rabola, go into the moron corner with LBK please and stop turning a perfectly intelligent discussion into a gradeschool babyfight.
are you overweigt?
ok showing up late means that we were actually committed to begin with... oh wait we werent. lets see WW1, yes the americans participated in only two major battles over the course of little over a year, and we did nothing. it was only the prospect of unrelenting americans that made the germans surrender. and in WW2 we had to fight a two front war because the japs bombed us first. just because the british were shitting their pants does not mean we had to help you guys at all. and wtf is that about americans being ashamed?
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:10
cheak your spelling, oh...sorry i forgot, you don't know how to spell
I could say the same about you remember '' cheak" your spelling
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:11
Okay kids, settle down before I have to go call the bleeding mods to lock the thread. If you can't discuss the matter without resorting to Bush-like tactics, maybe we shouldn't bother trying to discuss it.
I could say the same about you remember '' cheak" your spelling
up yours, i can spell that
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:13
up yours, i can spell that
from what you posted earlier doesn't look like it. ;)
chocolate im with you, i dont think he can spell
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:17
okay the next time your getting bombed you all can just suffer. we did show up late but if wasn't for us the Nazis would rule Europe. I have nothing agaisnt the British you jist made me mad.
And if it wasn't for the rest of the Allies the Nazis would rule America, too.
shows how much you know about history, that statement was so wrong i dont know where to begin to disprove it
Because of American arrogance. America thinks of itself as the ruler of the world, and that it has the right to interfere in other nations interests.
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:18
If you can't discuss the matter without resorting to Bush-like tactics, maybe we shouldn't bother trying to discuss it
more like Kerry-like tactics.
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:18
Let me guess, the Americans could have taken on the entire Axis on their own?
EDIT: That's in reply to LBKs post.
from what you posted earlier doesn't look like it. ;)
to f"3$%^g wa!"$ng bas£$%^ of an american,
look, your a crappy piece of american garbage, who is proberly overweigt, needs a diet and should get a face lift. ask anyone in england...they will agree that you are stupid, cheating lisards who invade 25 countrys a week.
Alomogordo
05-01-2005, 23:19
(acording to Rage Against the Machine) you guys had 55million homeless in 97.. why dont you concentrate on yourself.
Well then Rage Against the Machine is wrong. There were NOT 55 million homeless in 1997. Not even close. There were "only" 35.6 million people in POVERTY, let alone homelessness.
we arent the rulers, we are the big brother of the rest of the nations. who else is going to help them play nice? and wipe their butts
Von Witzleben
05-01-2005, 23:20
Let me guess, the Americans could have taken on the entire Axis on their own?
EDIT: That's in reply to LBKs post.
Of course. They are protected by Jesus magic. Haven't you heard?
Ninjadom Revival
05-01-2005, 23:20
Terrorists - because of the U.S.'s staunch support of Israel.
France - because they have been bailed out by the U.S. a lot of times and want to act vigilant.
Anyone else - <see 'France'>
hey arch boy. one- the united states did not start the war with japan or germany. two- we took the japs and the germans and the italians didnt we? sure germany was eventually slaughtered by the endless supply of russian conspricts and the italians have had no fight since rome but the majority of the forces were american. we took the whole chinese/russian/north korean armies by ourselves a couple years later then didnt we? so please dont tlak unless you know what you are talking about
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:22
/me sews LBK and Rabola into a sack with a half dozen angry cats and chucks the bag into a shower stall.
I ask the rest of you, should I turn on the water?
hey boo, what country do you hail from?
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:24
And if it wasn't for the rest of the Allies the Nazis would rule America, too.
we pretty much took the japs. by ourselves. We helped with Italy just like the British, we helped with the nazis just like the british only we didn't get our butts kicked as many time as the british.
Nookyoolerr Strategery
05-01-2005, 23:24
Of course. They are protected by Jesus magic. Haven't you heard?
AFAIK, Jesus didn't mandate us to invade multiple countries. Most of Europe were creating empires in the medieval times and the Renaissance to spread the religion. Look at where they are now. If we too do not stop using Jesus as rationale to invade countries, we too will be destroyed. Jesus came to save ALL HUMANITY form burning in hell for all eternity, not just a certain group
Rashaulge
05-01-2005, 23:24
LBK is the answer to this thread.
lol, so true
Mickey Mosque
05-01-2005, 23:25
...the foreigners all hate the USA so much, why are they all here?!?!?!?!?
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:26
hey arch boy. one- the united states did not start the war with japan or germany. two- we took the japs and the germans and the italians didnt we? sure germany was eventually slaughtered by the endless supply of russian conspricts and the italians have had no fight since rome but the majority of the forces were american. we took the whole chinese/russian/north korean armies by ourselves a couple years later then didnt we? so please dont tlak unless you know what you are talking about
You took the Axis powers on with the aid of: The UK, Canada, Australia, France (Resistance forces) not to mention the rest of the Commonwealth.
You never went toe-to-toe with the whole Chinese or Russian armies, where are you getting this crap? Maybe you forgot about that minor little thing called NATO?
In North Korea I seem to recall you FAILING to achieve your objective - this is why Korea is split in two today.
Let's talk about your stunning victory in VietNam next, shall we?
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:26
look, your a crappy piece of american garbage, who is proberly overweigt, needs a diet and should get a face lift. ask anyone in england...they will agree that you are stupid, cheating lisards who invade 25 countrys a week
and you said I need help with my spelling I really hope your a kid to have that bad of spelling
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:26
hey boo, what country do you hail from?
OMG where's your brain???
It has been stated three seperate times on this thread that I am from America.
USA.
Citizen of.
I just happen to be one of those Americans who ISN'T a mindless POS who barfs out USA pwnz teh world on command.
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:28
we pretty much took the japs. by ourselves. We helped with Italy just like the British, we helped with the nazis just like the british only we didn't get our butts kicked as many time as the british.
Burma.
North Africa.
Battle of Britain.
Omaha Beach.
hey again arch, so who was supplying those countries with munitions? and tanks? and ships? that glorious british empire sure did them alot of help didnt it... oh dunkirk yeah the british retreated. but out of all of those nations who was the one who actually defeated those countries?
Von Witzleben
05-01-2005, 23:28
we took the whole chinese/russian/north korean armies by ourselves a couple years later then didnt we?
Uuuum...no.
http://www.korean-war.com/
ohhh archy boy can name four battles
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:29
hey again arch, so who was supplying those countries with munitions? and tanks? and ships? that glorious british empire sure did them alot of help didnt it... oh dunkirk yeah the british retreated. but out of all of those nations who was the one who actually defeated those countries?
The Russians. They are the ones who forced the German Army all the way from Moscow to Berlin, and flew their flag from the roof of the Reichstag.
EDIT: And err, I wasn't aware Spitfires and Hurricanes were of American construction? Funny that, I recall the "best" aircraft of the war being designed by the British. Can ya name it?
Alomogordo
05-01-2005, 23:30
to f"3$%^g wa!"$ng bas£$%^ of an american,
look, your a crappy piece of american garbage, who is proberly overweigt, needs a diet and should get a face lift. ask anyone in england...they will agree that you are stupid, cheating lisards who invade 25 countrys a week.
Your gross misspelling of 'probably' is the least of your concerns. Assuming that someone you have never even looked at needs a diet is pretty sad. So is generalizing that all English people hate Americans. I wish the number was lower, but what can you do. Ok, time for a fact-check:
"cheating lisards who invade 25 countrys a week". 25 countries a week. Wow, we could invade the whole world in two months! Ah, but wait. I see now that we've invaded 2 countries (1 was justified) over the course of 39 months. You also might need some tranquilizers or something to keep you from exploding.
That fact of the manner is that many people migrate to the US for their post secondary education. Most of the US campuses are filled with a multitude of different nationalities. It’s pretty cool. I don’t understand why some many foreigners travel to US for their education. I mean come on. America also foots some of the bill to educate these people.
ohh you can show me a web site how nice.
arch you can ask the russians how many of their own men were killed by the brilliant german army and their own ruler. last i heard the count was around twenty million, that sure is alot more than hitler. arent the russians great?
edit: i wasnt aware that the P-51 was made by the british. oh wait, can you say battle of britain? how many planes did the limeys have left after that little row?
Von Witzleben
05-01-2005, 23:33
ohh you can show me a web site how nice.
At least I know that the Korean war wasn't fought by just the US. :D
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:34
At least I know that the Korean war wasn't fought by just the US. :D
Don't be stupid. There are no countries that aren't the US!
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:34
In North Korea I seem to recall you FAILING to achieve your objective - this is why Korea is split in two today.
wrong. our goal was to help South Korea stop North Korea from making it communist. I don't recall South Korea being communist now. we did acheive our goal. I didn't see your country helping they were most likely sitting on their butt.
This is pretty poor when people retort by saying, “your bad speller.” It’s a damn forum not the national spelling bee.
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:35
Your gross misspelling of 'probably' is the least of your concerns. Assuming that someone you have never even looked at needs a diet is pretty sad. So is generalizing that all English people hate Americans.
You also might need some tranquilizers or something to keep you from exploding.
Heh, his resorting to guessing my weight was the least of his problems. But I'm kinda insult-proof about that kind of thing, being one of the females being touted as "droolworthy" by even my staunchest of debate "enemies" on these boards after they had a gander at my photos on the pix-thread...
I disagree about the tranquilizers. The kid just needs a few good beatings and a rudimentary education -- or to be sewn into a sack with TBK and a half dozen cats and thrown in a shower then doused with very cold water.
Mickey Mosque
05-01-2005, 23:36
The Korean war was lost, er, stalemated because of the UN, not the US.
Bootylove
05-01-2005, 23:36
Hmmmm... US eh? Everyone will have some rationale to hate the US, whether it's their crappy foriegn policy or the fact the the presidents kinda.... er.... dumb?... I think the fact America voted him back in was a mistake in the eyes of the world. But then I guess Bush is more similar to alot of americans than we give him credit for.... It's unfortunate in a way that a country as powerfull as that, should have so many bad ideas and idiots running it... It could do really good things, it should be doing, but it probably won't and thats the crux of the matter. America is just pro-america rather than Pro-democracy/humanity/globe in general however you want to put it.
The other thing I don't like is how (and I don't know if it's just Bush messing up) the Goverment is all (god bless america) and (jesus saves) and all that.... Arn't there other religions in america. Don't Americans form other religions get a bit narked?
Anyway.... I don't like it much but it's probably the way to go... I don't think anybody will have alot of choice....
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:36
Heh, his resorting to guessing my weight was the least of his problems. But I'm kinda insult-proof about that kind of thing, being one of the females being touted as "droolworthy" by even my staunchest of debate "enemies" on these boards after they had a gander at my photos on the pix-thread...
Droolworthy, you say? ... Hmm.. Back soon. *Heads off to the pictures thread*
Von Witzleben
05-01-2005, 23:37
Don't be stupid. There are no countries that aren't the US!
*bows head* I forgot. It happens when your a treehugging atheist pinko commy liberal hippy.......sorry........ :p
Von Witzleben
05-01-2005, 23:40
wrong. our goal was to help South Korea stop North Korea from making it communist. I don't recall South Korea being communist now. we did acheive our goal. I didn't see your country helping they were most likely sitting on their butt.
http://www.korean-war.com/unitedkingdom.html
Yeah. The brits were laying back having a nice cup of tea. :rolleyes:
Mickey Mosque
05-01-2005, 23:41
Everyone hates a winner. I'd rather be the Yankees or Manchester United than West Ham or the Chicago Cubs, thank you very much.
The Korean war was lost, er, stalemated because of the UN, not the US.
He wanted to drop nukes between N. Korea and China. It could of worked...maybe. Truman was too much of a pussy, Ike was the man.
Areyoukiddingme
05-01-2005, 23:42
You've just answered why everyone hates the US. It's always "but they're against me" rather than looking at the bigger picture.
The United States has been upset that (particularly) India and China were included as developing countries and were thus not held to the same emissions reduction standards as developed countries. That has nothing to do with your idiotic theory about the United States, it is based on holding nations to equal standards.
Also, the treaty outlined a 33% reduction in emissions for the US, whikle hoding EU nations to an average of 5%, with "developing" nations held to even lower standards. That is a shit treaty attempting to stifle US growth. Kinda like Affirmative Action on a global scale.
Its not that we Americans are bad, its that our belligerant like to travel and our administration is terrible. I mean, c'mon, every country has its' assholes. Ours just like to be elsewhere more.
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:43
Hmmmm... US eh? Everyone will have some rationale to hate the US, whether it's their crappy foriegn policy or the fact the the presidents kinda.... er.... dumb?... I think the fact America voted him back in was a mistake in the eyes of the world. But then I guess Bush is more similar to alot of americans than we give him credit for.... It's unfortunate in a way that a country as powerfull as that, should have so many bad ideas and idiots running it... It could do really good things, it should be doing, but it probably won't and thats the crux of the matter. America is just pro-america rather than Pro-democracy/humanity/globe in general however you want to put it.
The other thing I don't like is how (and I don't know if it's just Bush messing up) the Goverment is all (god bless america) and (jesus saves) and all that.... Arn't there other religions in america. Don't Americans form other religions get a bit narked?
Anyway.... I don't like it much but it's probably the way to go... I don't think anybody will have alot of choice....
Booty, we do indeed have a lot of concerns about having a man who refuses to stop going on about how God wants this, that and the other and can't even pronounce the word "nuclear" properly in the driver's seat. Nearly everything that comes out of Bush's mouth scares the crap out of quite a few of us.
However, we were presented with two COMPLETE losers as candidates and Bush has this real talent for bullshitting and cheating his way into things... and for some reason I have YET to understand, he squeezed his crazy, stupid rear back into the Oval Office for a second 4-year reign of terror. Personally, I'd rather see a damned hampster in office than that man. A hampster couldn't do a worse job.
Those of us who aren't some flavour of Christian are pretty screwed and we all know it.
Costa Coffee
05-01-2005, 23:45
who the hell cares?
That's why. A small number of arrogant retards sully your image worldwide to give the idea that you're all gun-happy, fat arrogant fundamentalists.
http://www.korean-war.com/unitedkingdom.html
Yeah. The brits were laying back having a nice cup of tea. :rolleyes:
Yeah, Europe was sucking the teat of America just like some welfare recipient during that time. US gave Europe some mad cash to rebuild.
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:45
Its not that we Americans are bad, its that our belligerant like to travel and our administration is terrible. I mean, c'mon, every country has its' assholes. Ours just like to be elsewhere more.
You forgot to mention that our ignorant, arrogant, miseducated children have too much free time and unmonitored access to the internet.
boo
i think you just had a bad childhood and you want to take it out on others
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:46
The US had around 93,000 wounded troops. That's more troops then Britain had all together. That's sad for the British the troops they deployed wasn't even in the ten thousands
Areyoukiddingme
05-01-2005, 23:46
wrong. our goal was to help South Korea stop North Korea from making it communist. I don't recall South Korea being communist now. we did acheive our goal. I didn't see your country helping they were most likely sitting on their butt.While you are correct about the goal, it was a UN goal, not just a US goal. That was back when the UN was relevant, and not a giant piece of bureaucratic crap.
Pooploogie
05-01-2005, 23:47
Do some research into our invasions, forced or attempted coups, tolerance of evil, and client state activities in: Haiti, The Phillipines, Lebanon, Libya, Nicaragua, Grenada, Iran, Indonesia, Chile, Guatemala, Panama, Greece, Korea, Costa Rica, Syria, Albania, Guiana, Serbia, Israel, Vietnam, Cambodia, East Timor, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and *dozens* of other countries on every god damned continent that we were involved with killing or oppressing literally *millions* of people on, and then tell me that the world hates us because they're jealous.
this book is a good start: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1567510523/002-4620129-6525661?v=glance
the plain and simple truth is, the U.S. is the most underhanded, sef-interested and deceptive imperialist power in the history of this planet, if only because of the wool that they pull over the eyes of their own people and those of the world.
Von Witzleben
05-01-2005, 23:47
US gave Europe some mad cash to rebuild.
Of course they did that out of the goodness of their hearts. (not that they have one) Having tradepartners and a buffer zone to the Eastern block had nothing to do with it.
well that pretty much sums it up. so what was your point again?
Von Witzleben
05-01-2005, 23:48
The US had around 93,000 wounded troops.
Neglegible.
well britain as a country right now is Neglegible.
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:50
The US had around 93,000 wounded troops. That's more troops then Britain had all together. That's sad for the British the troops they deployed wasn't even in the ten thousands
Russian WW2 losses: ~20million
USA WW2 losses: 408,000
That's sad, why did you get more of your men killed?
Booslandia
05-01-2005, 23:51
boo
i think you just had a bad childhood and you want to take it out on others
LBK, I had and made use of a good education. I sincerely wish you'd make use of yours. Try reading and understanding what you've read and then engaging your brain before using the keyboard again. Because right now, it's very clear that your brain is in neutral and you can't retain even the simplest bits of information from anything you've read.
How on earth can you expect ANYONE to take you for anything but a raving moron if you can't even tell what country a poster hails from when they've clearly mentioned it three times? And buddy, get your facts straight before you start going on about US supremacy in failed efforts like Viet Nam.
Von Witzleben
05-01-2005, 23:52
USA WW2 losses: 408,000
Actually it was only some 290,000/295,000. Hardly worth mentioning.
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:52
I think whoever said that LBK was the answer to this thread was correct.
Kocmoctan
05-01-2005, 23:52
BlahBlahBlah. Do something instead of sitting on Your asses. Revolution man *poof*
(passed out to drunk)
...and sorry just in case if i've been too rude
8-D
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:53
we had over ten times the number of troops that the british did needless to say we helped much more
Kocmoctan
05-01-2005, 23:53
that was not me!!!!
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:54
we had over ten times the number of troops that the british did needless to say we helped much more
Because you have a larger population. Which means you have more meat to throw at the bad guys lead.
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:55
Russian WW2 losses: ~20million
USA WW2 losses: 408,000
That's sad, why did you get more of your men killed?
20 million is alot more than 408,000. have you ever taken math?
The Arch Wobbly
05-01-2005, 23:56
20 million is alot more than 408,000. have you ever taken math?
Yeah, but I'm tired and meant to type "didn't".
Chocolate Bar
05-01-2005, 23:57
we have more people willing to fight to keep others free then every other country on earth
Aardvarkhomia
05-01-2005, 23:58
Why do people hate the US?
We give more humanitarian aide than any other nation ever? The American people ar the first to respond when disaster happens. In 2003 we gave nearly 37% of all humanitarian aide the closest nation the Netherlands gave 12% of all humanitarian aide.
Why do people hate the US for trying to spread democracy around the world?
Why do people hate the US for dying at their expense?
Since when was America an evil nation?
PS-Please give a responsible and honest reply. No random posts please.
People don't hate the US. We buy into the culture, when we meet american people we generally get on well. You have an unfortunate habit of electing dumb people as president and allowing your more avericious corporations to buy government policy.
Taken either as 'per capita' or as a proportion of GDP the US's record as a donor is poor. I live in the UK and on the same basis our record is poor too (but not as bad as yours).
If the US had an effective democracy we'd listen to you but you don't. Your legislators are in hock to the corporations and should they legislate against the monied interests then the lawyers get stuck in to thwart the will of the elected government. In the face of what we see we think the US claim to be spreading democracy is laughable.
The nearest the world community of nations has to democratic accountability is the UN and the US does not take any notice of UN resolutions so don't go whinnning: abide by UN resolutions, accept the International Court, sign up to Kyoto and generally get with it rather than going your own way without caring waht the rest of us think.
Americans dying? More ill conceived foreign adventures sanctioned by
a dumb government and run by an over-wheening military. Get your jack-boots off the world's throat.
Evil nation? Yes, in parts. Corprate greed, dumb government, blood thirsty military. And rednecks who are too dumb to realise how dumb they are in the eyes of the world
Interpol_ESP
06-01-2005, 00:00
Well I think LBK has made it pretty clear he knows absolutely nothing about history or politics in any sense of the words. Goodie. ^_^
Booslandia
06-01-2005, 00:00
we have more people willing to fight to keep others free then every other country on earth
Amend that statement to read:
"we have more people tricked into thinking they will fight to keep others free than every other country on earth"
and you have a more accurate assessement.
I find it sad and disturbing, but I also know it to be true.
Aardvarkhomia
06-01-2005, 00:02
well britain as a country right now is Neglegible.
and is the only friend you have in europe arsehole
Booslandia
06-01-2005, 00:04
and is the only friend you have in europe arsehole
Pay him no mind, Aard. He's obviously weak in the head. Even the more pigheaded among us know enough to be grateful for the friendship of the UK. Even if some of us DO think that both Bush and Blair are in sore need of a little replacement.
Chocolate Bar
06-01-2005, 00:04
Amend that statement to read:
"we have more people tricked into thinking they will fight to keep others free than every other country on earth"
and you have a more accurate assessement.
I find it sad and disturbing, but I also know it to be true
go to the countries we are currently helping. all the little kids and adults on the road that are happy to see our troops are we tricking them into thinking we are helping them. could you go to a little kid that so happy to see our troops and tell them we aren't helping them that this is all becuase we are selfish
Booty, we do indeed have a lot of concerns about having a man who refuses to stop going on about how God wants this, that and the other and can't even pronounce the word "nuclear" properly in the driver's seat. Nearly everything that comes out of Bush's mouth scares the crap out of quite a few of us.
However, we were presented with two COMPLETE losers as candidates and Bush has this real talent for bullshitting and cheating his way into things... and for some reason I have YET to understand, he squeezed his crazy, stupid rear back into the Oval Office for a second 4-year reign of terror. Personally, I'd rather see a damned hampster in office than that man. A hampster couldn't do a worse job.
Those of us who aren't some flavour of Christian are pretty screwed and we all know it.
When was your ass ever repressed by the current administration? The fact of the manner is that Bush won, he won by more this time then last. He is popular President that more then half the country likes, and he stands up for he believes in. He’s not a pussy who is afraid of showing his faith nor does he destroy the people’s ability to display their own faith like France. You may disagree with his policies foreign or domestic which is fine, I do all the time. However, he is an impressive guy with strong ties to his faith and doesn’t give a damn about being open about it.
The Arch Wobbly
06-01-2005, 00:07
go to the countries we are currently helping. all the little kids and adults on the road that are happy to see our troops are we tricking them into thinking we are helping them. could you go to a little kid that so happy to see our troops and tell them we aren't helping them that this is all becuase we are selfish
Better idea!
Let's goto Sudan or Uganda and tell them America won't help them because they have no valuable natural resources - like Oil.
Booslandia - I feel sorry for people like you being so badly represented by some of your fellow countrymen. It's a shame that the minority tends to speak louder than the majority.
Good night, everyone.
Aardvarkhomia
06-01-2005, 00:07
Pay him no mind, Aard. He's obviously weak in the head. Even the more pigheaded among us know enough to be grateful for the friendship of the UK. Even if some of us DO think that both Bush and Blair are in sore need of a little replacement.
You had your chance to dispose of Bush. Sadly Bliar is the only real alternative at the moment in the UK. Howard (the leader of the opposition party in the UK) has the charm and attitude of Count Dracula.
Mother Russia II
06-01-2005, 00:10
Hey, old Metallica rocked. They seem to have misplaced their balls lately.
damn straight
Aardvarkhomia
06-01-2005, 00:12
go to the countries we are currently helping. all the little kids and adults on the road that are happy to see our troops are we tricking them into thinking we are helping them. could you go to a little kid that so happy to see our troops and tell them we aren't helping them that this is all becuase we are selfish
They're all so pleased with you in Iraq that they ambush your boys and kill them. Somalia, yup, you did well there. Vietnam, you played a storm. You support Saudi and Kuwait, to of the most corrupt murdering dictatorships around. Pfft!
Interpol_ESP
06-01-2005, 00:12
He is popular President that more then half the country likes, and he stands up for he believes in.
Hmm. Next you'll be spoon feeding us bullshit about Bush being a better option than Kerry because "He doesn't flip-flop."
He’s not a pussy who is afraid of showing his faith nor does he destroy the people’s ability to display their own faith like France. ...However, he is an impressive guy with strong ties to his faith and doesn’t give a damn about being open about it.
Pity he represents everything his faith claims to stand against.
Draconis Federation
06-01-2005, 00:21
They're all so pleased with you in Iraq that they ambush your boys and kill them. Somalia, yup, you did well there. Vietnam, you played a storm. You support Saudi and Kuwait, to of the most corrupt murdering dictatorships around. Pfft!
Actually it is the Sunni who atack america and they only make up less then 10% of the population, while the kurds, shihite, and other arab groups are for american involvment in rebuilding their country. And besides those that kill americans are those who once supported Saddam, and this is only going to end when saddam is executed. So I think we should just get through the trials and put saddam in the electric chair.
Let's not forget that current American rock musicians wouldn't know heavy metal if it were to fall from the sky and crush them. If you don't believe me, I present Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, and Metallica as evidence that American "metal" is garbage.
I know this is sorta old... but..
#1- Yeah... Limp Bizkit sucks...
#2- Last time I checked, Linkin Park wasnt considered exactly Metal rock...
#3- Classic rock (ie: Metallica) does not suck in any way, shape or form. Except.. yeah right now, Metallica isn't too hot... If Metallica isn't "good" Metal. could you name some "good" Metal bands?
Draconis Federation
06-01-2005, 00:27
Hmm. Next you'll be spoon feeding us bullshit about Bush being a better option than Kerry because "He doesn't flip-flop."
Pity he represents everything his faith claims to stand against.
Ok, get over it, Kerry gave up because he knew that he didn't have the support of the nation. Maybe he'll run next time, maybe he'll win, maybe he'll be as good as JFK, but those are possibilites. At this moment we need a leader who supports the millitary, now we need a man or woman (yes I'd vote for a woman if her veiws were mine) to rebuild a shatered Iraq and prevent anymore dictators from takeing over the country.
Russian WW2 losses: ~20million
USA WW2 losses: 408,000
That's sad, why did you get more of your men killed?
US was in the for font and was the bulk of all major operations in WWII. The Normandy Invasion, The Battle of the Bulge, and the failed British lead Operation Market Garden. Plus we had troops in the fighting Japan. Russian loses we’re because Stalin was crazy basted who sent poorly equipment inexperience soldiers to the front doing suicide runs.
Draconis Federation
06-01-2005, 00:30
I know this is sorta old... but..
#1- Yeah... Limp Bizkit sucks...
#2- Last time I checked, Linkin Park wasnt considered exactly Metal rock...
#3- Classic rock (ie: Metallica) does not suck in any way, shape or form. Except.. yeah right now, Metallica isn't too hot... If Metallica isn't "good" Metal. could you name some "good" Metal bands?
To add on to my freinds questions
#4- Metallica is a classic, you may not like them because they're not your style, but they sell, and sell big, at least they don't fake a british accent like so many others
Aardvarkhomia
06-01-2005, 00:36
US was in the for font and was the bulk of all major operations in WWII. The Normandy Invasion, The Battle of the Bulge, and the failed British lead Operation Market Garden. Plus we had troops in the fighting Japan. Russian loses we’re because Stalin was crazy basted who sent poorly equipment inexperience soldiers to the front doing suicide runs.
Turned up late, and never faced more than 40 divisions in europe at a time when the USSR faced upwards of 200. The T34 (russian tank) was the best battletank of the war and from 1942 (Stalingrad and after) til the end of the war the ruskies probably had the best army man for man. Stalin was not crazy; he was a complete evil bastard
Mother Russia II
06-01-2005, 00:41
You have to be kidding me! People think the world is supposed to be forever obedient to Americas unilateral, global police, mindframe decisions. People think that when a "red,white, and blue curtain" covers the globe, everyone will be happy and all global problems will simply dissappear. It sounds like a good idea in theory, but, as we now have seen, it has proved to be nothing but that. This theory has misguided the leadership of America, and plunged the country in to an even deeper hole of hate, resentment, threats, and violence. There is a book I am currently reading called: The Bubble of American Supremacy: Correcting the Misuse of American Power by George Soros, and it discusses how badly America screwed themselves in the ass. You can read the first chapter at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/thebubbleofamericansupremacy.htm
I definately reccommend you read this book, whether you buy it, borrow it, check it out from the library, or steal it, because, as well as I believe I articulated my point and my view, Soros can definately answer it in more detail and provide more reasons as to why the USA isn't very well thought of in the minds of others (with the exeption of the blissfully-blind, hardcore patriotic, soccer moms who wave their flags and praise Bush like he's some sort of God-sent Savior).
Shadat Rakuri
06-01-2005, 00:48
The U.S. is hated because it's under the impression it is "King of the World". Democracy cannot be forced upon a people - if they desire change, they must push for the change they desire...just like everyone else in history. I feel we (the U.S.) would be right in offering education for the people...dropping flyers or whathaveyou to explain the different choices that are actually available. </p>
If it were International Democracy we cared for, then someone please explaine why Iraq was suddenly the target...not all the other nations on the planet with oppressed populace living in squalor. We have been playing the role of Imperialist - not only to other nations but ourselves. Our current leadership considers the citizens of it's nation as its natural enemy (for instance: travel profiling).
Yes, our citizens have been kind and generous...but that should not be anything to pat ourselves on our back for: We are RICH, by comparison. If we did not give aid to those we can, we'd be hated even more.
Something to keep in mind: Every great nation that has ever existed on the planet - falls at some point.
Mother Russia II
06-01-2005, 00:52
Booty, we do indeed have a lot of concerns about having a man who refuses to stop going on about how God wants this, that and the other and can't even pronounce the word "nuclear" properly in the driver's seat. Nearly everything that comes out of Bush's mouth scares the crap out of quite a few of us.
However, we were presented with two COMPLETE losers as candidates and Bush has this real talent for bullshitting and cheating his way into things... and for some reason I have YET to understand, he squeezed his crazy, stupid rear back into the Oval Office for a second 4-year reign of terror. Personally, I'd rather see a damned hampster in office than that man. A hampster couldn't do a worse job.
Those of us who aren't some flavour of Christian are pretty screwed and we all know it.
Amen, Sistah!
Q: How can one man possibly run a country, when roughly 56% of that country's citizens support him ?*
*not to say all other presidents where elected unanimously*
Chocolate Bar
06-01-2005, 01:01
They're all so pleased with you in Iraq that they ambush your boys and kill them. Somalia, yup, you did well there. Vietnam, you played a storm. You support Saudi and Kuwait, to of the most corrupt murdering dictatorships around. Pfft!
there are so many people thet are happy that the US is there. There are people who don't like us there but not all of them. No we do nat support Saudi Arabia or Kuwait we put up with them just like the UK does.
Nookyoolerr Strategery
06-01-2005, 01:01
#2- Last time I checked, Linkin Park wasnt considered exactly Metal rock...
LP isn't a metal band. They are Alternative Rock, with a little bit of Techno and Hip-Hop mixed in. They have an Identity of their own. Stupid Conformists don't like this new idea, however. I am a big LP fan, btw.
Back on topic: If Bush stands for what he believes, explain why he believed that the US should be the only power on the planet when he was first elected, then after 9/11, flip-floping into a world coalition leader, and then after invading iraq flip-flopping back into his world dictator perosnality.
Chocolate Bar
06-01-2005, 01:06
Bush won becuase Christains have taken the most active role in politics they ever have. Also Kerry leans both ways. CHOOSE WHAT SIDE YOU AGREE WITH. Is that so hard.
Eurotrash Smokey
06-01-2005, 01:09
and in WW2 we had to fight a two front war because the japs bombed us first. just because the british were shitting their pants does not mean we had to help you guys at all.
This is so typical. If Hitler hadn't declared war to you guys, you wouldn't have helped. And when an opinion poll was held in 1937 or 1939 ( can't remember ), the opinion poll was about how the american people felt about the chinese-japanese war, 45% didn't care about it. But when japan turns out to be a great asian evil power trying to destroy the freedom of speech where america stands for :eek: .
You guys only intervene when:
A. It suits you right.
B. War is declared upon you.
Srry LBK, but go back to school and learn history correct. Thx, btw i only have a problem with LBK, not the rest of you Americans. I'm actually very thankful of what u did in ww2, but i don't think is right to take all the credit like LBK does.
Turned up late, and never faced more than 40 divisions in europe at a time when the USSR faced upwards of 200. The T34 (russian tank) was the best battletank of the war and from 1942 (Stalingrad and after) til the end of the war the ruskies probably had the best army man for man. Stalin was not crazy; he was a complete evil bastard
Ok, Russia may have faced more divisions then the US in the Western Front however, Hitler was well camped in the western front, their was no point to having a massive amount of troops while playing D. He was in the offensive position against Russia so he needed more troops. However, Hitler sent more Luftwaffe divisions out to the west and more navel units. The Russian troops might have been well trained toward the beginning of the war but the reserves were just peasants with guns (if they’re lucky). Oh, and the T34 sucked in comparison to the Panther and King Tiger. Russian causalities were high because of the weather, equipment, battle tactics, and poor reserves.
Interpol_ESP
06-01-2005, 01:17
Amen, Sistah!
Q: How can one man possibly run a country, when roughly 56% of that country's citizens support him ?*
*not to say all other presidents where elected unanimously*
You know Tony Blair gained less than 25% of the electorate?
NewKaiserLand
06-01-2005, 01:20
Because your foreign policy is hypocritical : America uses force "to protect the innocent" where they have an economic interest. There are massacres all over the world, but America does nothing. The North Koreans have nuclear bombs but America does nothing. But Iraq has oil, so America sends in the troops. Then you expect the world to be greatful, and help you in serving your own interests.
Because America insists on free trade; that is no trade barriers for American products, but has trade barriers against other countries to protect your farmers and industries.
Because America thinks that it owns the Christian religion, God supports whatever America does. Which country has the most televised evangelists?
Which country has the richest evangelists? Hypocrites.
Which country is most likely to start a world war? America started the war in Iraq and dragged lots of other countries in to it.
America was late for both world wars, started the Vietnam war and lost, and has been trying to make up for it ever since. America seems to be influenced by the defense industry, so it needs military action to justify developing and buying bigger and better weapons. Now that the Soviet Union has collapsed, America is the biggest threat to world peace.
Which country produces the most pollution and refuses to ratify the Kyoto protocol? America, selfish isn't it.
The rich country uses it's wealth and military to push other countries around and then wonders why no-one likes it. Perhaps if you were more humble people would like you better.
Von Witzleben
06-01-2005, 01:42
Howard (the leader of the opposition party in the UK) has the charm and attitude of Count Dracula.
Dracula. Now there was an impressive leader. A David holding back a Goliath to use some biblical terms.
Andaras Prime
06-01-2005, 01:45
My first post :) anyway being Australian i don't know much about us stuff and the like but there are alot of stuff in this topic of 'anti-american' comments which i agree with. The superior notion of american is clear, although the idea of spreading democracy throughout the world maybe a good one in principal but iraq or the us campaign to democratise the middle-east is not viewed by those countries as democracy but having pro-american politics forced on them. And being a student of political science, there is a great deal of difference between democracy in it's purest & simplest form to us right-wing democacy. But apart politics this one of the main things I admire about the us is there ability to see that something is wrong and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, it's one thing to say something is bad at a press-conference (iraq etc..) but it's another to comitte real actions and in the case of the us, soldiers lives to make a difference. To be frank the United Nations do absolutely nothing but talk and occaisionally give a little bit of money, they never make direct actions to change something instead of doing something because they are scaired of what other nations will think if they do. But the us's politics are there own and i don't agree with alot of that stuff which is going on with them but at least they and their allies do something to help & make a difference.
Von Witzleben
06-01-2005, 01:48
My first post :)
Welcome to the game. Diving head forward into the lions den I see with that first post of yours.
The Black Forrest
06-01-2005, 01:53
I bet you are a teenager right?
Because your foreign policy is hypocritical : America uses force "to protect the innocent" where they have an economic interest.
Many nations have done that.
There are massacres all over the world, but America does nothing.
Yes and where where the Europeans(and everybody else) when 1 million Rwandans were hacked to death in 100 days?
Because America insists on free trade; that is no trade barriers for American products, but has trade barriers against other countries to protect your farmers and industries.
As does many other countries.
Because America thinks that it owns the Christian religion, God supports whatever America does. Which country has the most televised evangelists?
Which country has the richest evangelists? Hypocrites.
:rolleyes: Hmmm not everybody is a Christian. Many Hindus in my area now. But your point is rather lame when you consider the Vatican can buy many small countries and few large ones if they wanted.
Which country is most likely to start a world war? America started the war in Iraq and dragged lots of other countries in to it.
And yet the Russians, French, and Germans stayed out.
America was late for both world wars, started the Vietnam war and lost, and has been trying to make up for it ever since.
Actually the French and Japanese started shooting first. We just stepped in.....
America seems to be influenced by the defense industry, so it needs military action to justify developing and buying bigger and better weapons. Now that the Soviet Union has collapsed, America is the biggest threat to world peace.
:rolleyes:
Which country produces the most pollution and refuses to ratify the Kyoto protocol? America, selfish isn't it.
Signing and implimenting are two different things. How many countries have fully implimented the accord?
Besides if you are such an expert on this country, you missed the major appearances of hybrid cars. There is even the announcment of a hybrid SUV and truck....
The rich country uses it's wealth and military to push other countries around and then wonders why no-one likes it. Perhaps if you were more humble people would like you better.
As every other powerful country before us and after us.
Von Witzleben
06-01-2005, 01:55
Actually the French and Japanese started shooting first. We just stepped in.....
Actually the French and Japanese had long left by the time the Americans arrived.
Eurotrash Smokey
06-01-2005, 01:59
Yes and where where the Europeans(and everybody else) when 1 million Rwandans were hacked to death in 100 days?
There were belgian paratroopers there, trying to maintain order. But some of them, i believe 10, were ambushed and had to flee into a house. They remained several hours there fighting until they had no ammo left.
What happend then ? They were killed and their dead bodies stripped from clothes, except their pants, and were dragged around in the streets, being spit on.
So piss off, they were there.
Von Witzleben
06-01-2005, 02:00
Yes and where where the Europeans(and everybody else) when 1 million Rwandans were hacked to death in 100 days?
I didn't see the US army rangers, who were on standby in neighbouring Burundi, do much either.
Andaras Prime
06-01-2005, 02:03
Welcome to the game. Diving head forward into the lions den I see with that first post of yours.
Couldn't help myself, anyway i've been on ns for quite a while, got bored so came to the forums.
Von Witzleben
06-01-2005, 02:05
Couldn't help myself, anyway i've been on ns for quite a while, got bored so came to the forums.
Be carefull. These forums will suck the time right from under you. One second it's 9 pm. The other it 7 am. The forums work in mysteriouse ways.
Booslandia
06-01-2005, 02:08
"I'm the Commander, see ... I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the President ... [I] don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation."
--Bush speaking to the National Security Council
"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision." - Bush's response to ABC NEWS, June 1999, regarding Ft. Hood's decision to allow Wiccan rituals
"I do not think witchcraft is a religion, and I do not think it is in any way appropriate for the U.S. military to promote it." - October 15, 2000
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." - Bush
"I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who probably read the news themselves."
-- Bush, Sept. 21, 2003
Do I need to say any more?
Eurotrash Smokey
06-01-2005, 02:10
America's finest :confused: ?
Von Witzleben
06-01-2005, 02:12
"I'm the Commander, see ... I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the President ... [I] don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation."
--Bush speaking to the National Security Council
"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision." - Bush's response to ABC NEWS, June 1999, regarding Ft. Hood's decision to allow Wiccan rituals
"I do not think witchcraft is a religion, and I do not think it is in any way appropriate for the U.S. military to promote it." - October 15, 2000
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." - Bush
"I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who probably read the news themselves."
-- Bush, Sept. 21, 2003
Do I need to say any more?
Well, you can clearly hear his Ivy league education.
Eurotrash Smokey
06-01-2005, 02:12
Worth every penny.
Oh wait, he and his family never pays for anything.
FreeSweden
06-01-2005, 04:34
Well, just read what many, not all, americans write in this thread and you will find out for yourself.
The people vote and get what they deserve. They can live their gunloving life and do whatever they please within their own borders, but we don't need them anymore in the rest of the world. The countries of the earth will get together and cooperate if that means that we never need their "help" anymore. Let's try to avoid making them feel being needed. Because that has gone to their heads since they joined the winning side in WW2.
If you don't believe me just think of all the bad talk there are against United Nations in USA. They don't want other countries to join together if it is not under the US command.
USA has an enormous inferiority complex that they try to solve in many different ways, like having a huge f*cking army patrolling the Globe as a world police. Who asked them? I hope no one will in the future.
And they ridicule their allies if they don't do as they are told. Enough is enough.
Allons! Enfants de la Patrie, Le jour de gloire est arrivé!
Contre nous de la tyrannie, L'étendard sanglant est levé!
Vive L´Europe Unie! :D
Nasopotomia
06-01-2005, 11:36
Let's just have a little case study here.
In the Veitnam war, one half of the country was run by a corrupt dictatorship who suppressed the will of the people, and was carefully run to profit the leaders and their cronies.
On the other side, there was a government that ran with the blessing of the people, who were fanatically loyal to it's principals and ruled to clean up the terrible mess the country had been left in by the French, and found itself embroiled in a civil war against the same corrupt leaders of the other half.
Which side did the US leap to the aid of?
THAT is why we people hate the US.
Via Ferrata
07-01-2005, 02:11
hey again arch, so who was supplying those countries with munitions? and tanks? and ships? that glorious british empire sure did them alot of help didnt it...?
Hey smartass, you really learn in your ZOO schools that the US build the battleships, cruisers, subs, sptfires, Avro Lancaster (heavier bombload then the B-17), Mosquito (2/3th of the bombload of a B-17 but almost at double speed) aso aso aso of the British Empire? Poor bastard, your so damn ingnorant that it is funny. History is bit more nuanced and I never saw a Libertyship or corvette destroying a German surface warship or plaine.
And forget those lousy Sherman tanks, they were so poor that it costed 7 Shermans before the 8th could take a TigerII or Panther out, specially when equiped with US soldiers. (UK record is 5 to 1 with same tank).
oh dunkirk yeah the british retreated. but out of all of those nations who was the one who actually defeated those countries?
The nation that destroyed 78,6% of the Whermacht and Waffen SS was the USSR according the facts.
And for the rest, it was the Uk of course, with help of it's allies (the guys that helped from in the beginning and the guys that came in later).
Via Ferrata
07-01-2005, 02:16
Allons! Enfants de la Patrie, Le jour de gloire est arrivé!
Contre nous de la tyrannie, L'étendard sanglant est levé!
Vive L´Europe Unie! :D
Nice words and a sign of civilization. Better then those apes that have to praise "the lord" for everything they do in their Jezusland.
I don't mean the real and nice US guys that want to form the US of Canada and are so ashame for those Bush suporters that they say they call themselves Canadian when abroad.
Theweakperish
07-01-2005, 03:25
as an american, i can simply say, to the last few posters....please continue to hate us. as long as people like you do, we must be doing something right, and franlyl, if you think throwing an impotent little name calling tantrum will make us "change", wow, are you ignorant.
US of Canada? what limp dick wants to do that? why would be more socilaistic when our examples, france, germany, spain, italy, etc....are all dying slow deaths of low birth rates, low productivity, inefficient economies, etc.? example of what not to be. and we jumped on the side of vietnem because we were in a cold war opposing the USSR, and i don;t think the vietnem you are talking was a vietnem that ever existed, either. does Iraq and the fact we don;t let the UN be our authority bother you that much? we'll be out iof Iraq in 2 years, and probably due to being asked to leave. then, the UN will remain a toothless, benign, bureaucratic joke unless the US gives it teeth, why should the US voluntarily demean itself by subjecting itself to an organization that has become a euro influenced tool of anti-americanism? be a man, have your country stop trading with us! that'll show us!
The Arch Wobbly
07-01-2005, 21:16
Last time we did that, didn't a little thing called "The Great Depression" come about?
Von Witzleben
07-01-2005, 21:34
Last time we did that, didn't a little thing called "The Great Depression" come about?
Nope. That was an effect of overproduction.
One Freedom Fits All
07-01-2005, 21:41
Because the US (almost certanly) has the highest GDP in the world as well. How about if you divided aid by the GDP.
Ask yourself this instead:
"Why (more) do people like Britain, the second highest aid giver in the world?"
The Arch Wobbly
08-01-2005, 00:21
We're the second highest aid giver in the world?
Mother Russia II
08-01-2005, 04:36
Well, you can clearly hear his Ivy league education.
really? do you see it in his blatant disregard for any sort of diverse peoples? lmao!!!!!!!!
Von Witzleben
08-01-2005, 04:40
really? do you see it in his blatant disregard for any sort of diverse peoples? lmao!!!!!!!!
Hey. He drank...errm...studied at Yale and Harvard. So he must be right in everything he says.
Mother Russia II
08-01-2005, 04:55
You know Tony Blair gained less than 25% of the electorate?
lol. ya democracy is totally fucked. Of course thinking all people will ever agree on one thing or even everything is just absolutely absurd.
*maybe dubya and dick sent their pals from Halliburton to pay off the figureheads and the dudes up in parlaiment to fix the vote*
Takoazul
08-01-2005, 05:39
I'm reminded of the saying "its lonely at the top"
The world is simply jealous of our position in the world as the only super power and they take whatever opportunity they can to inflate their egos, like france.
They'll hate us until they need us, and after they don't need us any longer, they'll go back to hating us.
FreeSweden
08-01-2005, 12:11
Nice words and a sign of civilization. Better then those apes that have to praise "the lord" for everything they do in their Jezusland.
I don't mean the real and nice US guys that want to form the US of Canada and are so ashame for those Bush suporters that they say they call themselves Canadian when abroad.
Well, most of the americans are so scared to be percieved as americans when they go abroad so the next time they invade a little country somewhere they'll be going as canadians.
The world is simply jealous of our position in the world as the only super power and they take whatever opportunity they can to inflate their egos, like france.
If you really believe that the european countries are jealous of you you need to go back to school. What could we be jealous of? There is nothing that you got that we would like to have, except that great neighbour of yours, Canada. One of the four best countries in the world and USA is not even on that list.
Nope, we are very disappointed of USA so you better straighten up dear.
Or else we will invade your minds again.
// Euro Aliens