What kind of melee weapon would you use in combat? - Page 2
Lord Ganja
04-01-2005, 22:11
Yeah, that works, till your fuel runs out. Then what do you do? :D
Run... until I get to the nearest gas station:)
Or just have a bullwhip with a nice little leather covered lead ball in the end... no good for defence but pretty damn nasty and has long range... and its really impossible to block unless you have a large shield...
Fahrsburg
04-01-2005, 22:16
Assuming that you can't use a gun, or other form of ranged weapon, what kind of melee weapon, like a sword, or a spear, or what have you, would you use?
Personally, I'd use my own unique weapon. Basically, it's a staff five feet long, made of metal, with a seven inch long serrated spear point on both ends. Deadly, and efficiant. So, what would you all use?
I used a Baby Fairbairn when I was in the Army; still carry it when I go hunting nowadays, though it mostly stays locked in the weapon's case for safety. I got it from my maternal grandfather who was a Marine Raider in WWII. Small, efficient and deadly; what more can you ask for in a melee weapon?
FutureExistence
04-01-2005, 22:17
If we're going to go sci-fi, then a monofilament whip (see Japanese assassin in "Johnny Mnemonic" for the idea, though some reckon that is a "laser whip") is a buckytube (buckminsterfullerine could be altered to form a tubular structure) with a weight on the end. One molecule thick, it will cut through just about anything with no resistance at all. Quite difficult to use, though.
Better would be a Sten blade, made from a crystal grown in zero-gravity. 17 molecules thick, this one, but it's a rigid frame, so still great cutting power. Also, no metal, no safe through metal detectors!
www.blackjack.dumpshock.com has some cool stuff in the melee wepaons section as well.
Shadowrun is great!
Sirius Zero
04-01-2005, 22:18
Or just have a bullwhip with a nice little leather covered lead ball in the end... no good for defence but pretty damn nasty and has long range... and its really impossible to block unless you have a large shield...
Why block if you can dodge?
Lord Ganja
04-01-2005, 22:24
Why block if you can dodge?
Hmmm, I have a hard time thinking anyone could dodge that since the tip travels above the speed of sound... hence the cracking noice of whips... maybe an electrified 3 meter pole would work too... isolated in my grips though... well, the posibillitys are infinite:D
Maybe an electrified chainsaw whip? Think about that one, ha!
Areyoukiddingme
04-01-2005, 22:27
Assuming that you can't use a gun, or other form of ranged weapon, what kind of melee weapon, like a sword, or a spear, or what have you, would you use?
Personally, I'd use my own unique weapon. Basically, it's a staff five feet long, made of metal, with a seven inch long serrated spear point on both ends. Deadly, and efficiant. So, what would you all use?
The spatula from my barbeque set. It has a knife edge on one side, and a spikey-serated type edge on the other. I can mess up a piece of meat with that mamma-jamma.
Pretty much spot on. Only comment I can make is that katana (and other nihonto) are intended for use against armor, including mail.
Whilst the Katana has better anti armour properties than a tachi, which was unable to deal effectively with Mongolian armour it hardly compares to a European sword. Trying to use a Katana against gothic plate is a pretty dumb idea.
Have you seen the movie "Troy"?
In the battle between Achilles and Hector, Achilles uses a double-headed spear before drawing his sword. I don't believe it has a special name, but it certainly isn't a complicated weapon to make. The idea of sticking a spike to the handle isn't a tough concept to come up with either, I've seen a pole-axe with a spike at both ends.
Not seen the film myself, but most Greek spears feature a spike on the bottom. The spike is made of brass and is designed to be stood in the ground, brass suffering less from corroshion than iron.
Katar's are pretty effective things, punch through sheet metal with them, and slash with them.
Dai-katana can cut steel like butter........
PIcaRDMPCia
04-01-2005, 22:45
Not seen the film myself, but most Greek spears feature a spike on the bottom. The spike is made of brass and is designed to be stood in the ground, brass suffering less from corroshion than iron.
Thing is, I'm not talking about a spear point on one end and a spike on the other; I'm talking about the same on both. It would be as if I took two spears and put them together, except it would only be about six and a half feet long total.
I'd definately use some kind of melee weapon.... probably one which was good... and stuff....
Thing is, I'm not talking about a spear point on one end and a spike on the other; I'm talking about the same on both. It would be as if I took two spears and put them together, except it would only be about six and a half feet long total.
Weird, would be somewhat pointless unless you had an enemy behind you. Or you went with out a sheild and used both hands on the 'spear'.
PIcaRDMPCia
04-01-2005, 22:57
Weird, would be somewhat pointless unless you had an enemy behind you. Or you went with out a sheild and used both hands on the 'spear'.
Not really; you haven't seen my fighting style. I spin my weapon around quite frequently, plus I move so quickly that if I wanted to slash my opponents--hence why the spear points would be serrated--I would be slashing them multiple times. Watch me fight, and then you'll see why I'd do it.
Not really; you haven't seen my fighting style. I spin my weapon around quite frequently, plus I move so quickly that if I wanted to slash my opponents--hence why the spear points would be serrated--I would be slashing them multiple times. Watch me fight, and then you'll see why I'd do it.
But you would be using it more like a staff/polearm i assume, with both hands, rather than as a spear with one hand and a shield [or net maybe] in the other?
Rudabaga
04-01-2005, 23:00
lead pipe, if one isint handy a rusty hatchet woul do
PIcaRDMPCia
04-01-2005, 23:03
But you would be using it more like a staff/polearm i assume, with both hands, rather than as a spear with one hand and a shield [or net maybe] in the other?
Yes; I can't stand using it in one hand. I make them serrated spear points because it's a balance; I tend to stab a lot with my style as well, and disembowel quite quickly; or I could slice up through their body with it. I'm fast and heavy with my fighting style.
on second thought, I'd use pair of monowire blades on one end of the staff. they would be concealed in the end and have a mechanism that that allows them to quickly pop out, so I could carry it like a walking stick and then pop te mono blades out ant deal out some very bloody death, as a bonus i have yet to see armor that could stand up to monowire.
I train with a regular quarter staff regularly and only dream of sticking blades on the end, but hey as long as its balanced shouldn't be any different. and those of you with knives and such that say you can out speed my staff, it takes much less than a second to get it up to speed, and once its spinning right you'd be lucky if you could see it before I layed you one upside the head
In the non bladed end, I'd probably stick a shotgun shell, so if I try to stab anybody with the non pointy end, they get shotgunned, its not a ranged weapon cause I have to stick em with it. for close quarters (jungles, crowded parlking lots et cetera) I'd have a boom stick, basically a stick with a shot gun shell in end so when you poke some one it goes boom. I'd have to work out some sort of reapeating action for multiple opponents
Lord Ganja
05-01-2005, 00:11
well, i would have a titanium exoskeleton charged with extremy high static electricity, try to hit me with anything and you'll be sent flying... that and a poisoned nine tailed cat whip with cyanid blades... wanna battle? ;)
FutureExistence
05-01-2005, 00:40
well, i would have a titanium exoskeleton charged with extremy high static electricity, try to hit me with anything and you'll be sent flying... that and a poisoned nine tailed cat whip with cyanid blades... wanna battle? ;)
Unless the thing is powered by zero-point energy, it'd be unlikely that it could move under the weight of it's own battery pack.
And poisoned weapons have been known to have a downside, particularly flexible ones.
Otherwise, rock on!
FutureExistence
05-01-2005, 00:42
In the non bladed end, I'd probably stick a shotgun shell, so if I try to stab anybody with the non pointy end, they get shotgunned, its not a ranged weapon cause I have to stick em with it. for close quarters (jungles, crowded parlking lots et cetera) I'd have a boom stick, basically a stick with a shot gun shell in end so when you poke some one it goes boom. I'd have to work out some sort of reapeating action for multiple opponents
Did you get the boom stick idea from Tom Clancy in that one where John Clark goes killing drug dealers, or from somewhere else?
A Philipino Barang, a heavy leaf-shaped sword for hacking and slicing also effective for stabbing, and a long dagger. I'm pretty well trained with Philipino weapons, and can probably do some serious damage against most people.
I thought it was Filipino or is that the language
Anyway; I would use a magic staff!
I'd either use one of my two swords, or my almighty UGLY STICK!
Dellaltya
05-01-2005, 01:37
I'm a fencer, so I'd use a rapier. Though I'm pretty pathetic at it, so I might end up doing less damage than I would with my fists and a roll of pennies. (Not that my upper body strength is anything to brag about... Sigh.)
Le Chat de Noir
05-01-2005, 01:44
i was always one for a long sword... *sigh* and many people don't trust me with one... then again i'd be happy with a dagger...
Neo-Anarchists
05-01-2005, 01:57
Did you get the boom stick idea from Tom Clancy in that one where John Clark goes killing drug dealers, or from somewhere else?
I read Without Remorse and I thought 'OOH! I need to try that!'.
Luckily after I bought shotgun shells I realized I'd probably blow myself up or something fooling with explosives, and I stuck to just lighting non-explosive things on fire instead.
Anybody want a free box of shotgun shells?
Neo-Anarchists
05-01-2005, 02:03
If we're going to go sci-fi, then a monofilament whip (see Japanese assassin in "Johnny Mnemonic" for the idea, though some reckon that is a "laser whip") is a buckytube (buckminsterfullerine could be altered to form a tubular structure) with a weight on the end. One molecule thick, it will cut through just about anything with no resistance at all. Quite difficult to use, though.
HELL YES!!!
I thought nobody was going to suggest that!
I love that movie/book the movie was based on.
In the book, it's quite definately a monofilament whip, I can't remember quite what happened in the movie though, so I'm not sure there.
Stroudania
05-01-2005, 02:03
Two knives - one in each hand.
Gnomish Republics
05-01-2005, 02:38
Depending on size of area, I would use a quarterstaff, probably central grip, one of those metal shod short staves used by the mutants in "The Status Civilization" http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue260/classic.html, or a katar.
Neo Merkrah
05-01-2005, 02:46
I would use a german zweihander with a fire pattern blade(No, the blade isnt fire, its only shaped like it). Not only is it pretty to look at, but the flame design blade would act to make wounds worse.
Lord Ganja
05-01-2005, 02:47
Unless the thing is powered by zero-point energy, it'd be unlikely that it could move under the weight of it's own battery pack.
And poisoned weapons have been known to have a downside, particularly flexible ones.
Otherwise, rock on!
well, its really just a plate mail of titanium and under that i wear a ghillie suit... but made of catskin with all the fur charging the metal.
Now as for the poisoned weapon, my suit will protect me!
Moahahaha!
Gnomish Republics
05-01-2005, 02:54
You mean the flamberge? And by the way, I would use a stilletto (the weapon, not the shoe) instead of a dagger.
Neo-Anarchists
05-01-2005, 03:26
You mean the flamberge? And by the way, I would use a stilletto (the weapon, not the shoe) instead of a dagger.
That brought to mind a picture of one guy drawing a sword, and the other guy taking off his shoe and beating him with it.
Hee.
It works!
Neo-Anarchists
05-01-2005, 03:28
i was always one for a long sword... *sigh* and many people don't trust me with one...
Most people don't trust me out of a straightjacket.
Gnomish Republics
05-01-2005, 03:28
That brought to mind a picture of one guy drawing a sword, and the other guy taking off his shoe and beating him with it.
Hee.
It works!
He would probably fall down. I don't think it's very easy to balance on one stilletto while trying to spear someone else with one :P
Neo-Anarchists
05-01-2005, 03:32
He would probably fall down. I don't think it's very easy to balance on one stilletto while trying to spear someone else with one :P
:D
I totally missed that bit!
Nekonokuni
05-01-2005, 03:45
It's really depend on the situation. Differant weapon choices depending on how many people I'm going to be fighting, and whether or not it quiet is good - amongst other conditions.
Without having anything more to go on... A murasame katana coated with a fast-acting paralytic and/or soporific neurotoxin that I (and nobody else) happen to be immune to.
Takoazul
05-01-2005, 04:57
a copy of the movie Gigli. But I'd probably be charged as a war criminal afterwards for inflicting such torture.
Chaosmanglemaimdeathia
05-01-2005, 05:19
a Fender guitar, because i'm Needlessly Hard-Core.
Neo-Anarchists
05-01-2005, 05:55
a Fender guitar, because i'm Needlessly Hard-Core.
Your name fits this topic all too well...
I LOVE IT!!
I'm in love....
:) :)
Demented Hamsters
05-01-2005, 06:21
Good question... I've always been a flail guy myself. You know, stick, chain on it, with a ball on the end? (Not to be confused with a morningstar.) Flails are my deal. You can crush bones and shit with those.
Ay particular reason why you'd want to crush shit with it? I mean cleaning up the mess afterwards and getting it off all the chain links would take sooo long.
Or are you hoping that by whipping it out and yelling at your would-be assailant: "Look! See that dog turd over there? I'm gonna smush it completely!" <Splat> "You want more of that, huh? Want some more? Look - there's a horse!"
I'd leave if confronted with that.
A Falchion (a frickin big (yet suprisingly light) scimitar), and a edged rapier for extremely close range
Erehwon Forest
05-01-2005, 10:41
If we're going to go sci-fi, then a monofilament whip (see Japanese assassin in "Johnny Mnemonic" for the idea, though some reckon that is a "laser whip") is a buckytube (buckminsterfullerine could be altered to form a tubular structure) with a weight on the end. One molecule thick, it will cut through just about anything with no resistance at all. Quite difficult to use, though.Monofilament whips don't work, at least not if made out of bucky tubes. A single bucky tube would snap at the slightest tug, so it'd be a single-swing weapon. If you use a "rope" of several bucky tubes, the end result is always either too weak to be used as a weapon or too thick to actually cut anything. The last time monowhips were discussed as weapons on Dumpshock can be found here (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=5548&st=0&#entry156378) (I'm AE), several other aspects of monowire have been discussed e.g. here (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=4859).
Monowhips do work in Shadowrun, though, because the books clearly tell us they do. Just not IRL.
Deus Pater Noster
05-01-2005, 10:51
Well, it really depends on the situation.
If I was in a rush, probably the closest heavy thing near me.
If it was anything? ....hrm, swords are nice, the Falchion is well fashoned, perhaps one of those.
I personally find Japanese Katana beutiful and amazing craftsmanship, but not a comfortable sword for actual combat.
The art is too rigid.
Katana, wakizashi, and tanto, all at the same time ^_^ (I have nineteen arms in case you were wondering)
A big stick with a pike and a few blades on them (Called a handlebird or something, Ican't spell it so I thought I'd describe it.)
Erehwon Forest
05-01-2005, 11:18
Handlebird indeed. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halberd)
Handlebird indeed. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halberd)
I was almost right, anway i'd be able to stab, cruch and chop with it, it has massive reach. I'd probly have a sword somewhere in case someone gets to close.
Erehwon Forest
05-01-2005, 13:28
Can't crunch with it, it has no blunt side -- just stab, chop and hack. It's not a bad weapon, though metal plating most of the haft might be a good idea.
Can't crunch with it, it has no blunt side -- just stab, chop and hack. It's not a bad weapon, though metal plating most of the haft might be a good idea.
Yes, it probly woud, it's especcially good against cavalry, and some of them had a blunt saide with spikes instead of another blade
Erehwon Forest
05-01-2005, 13:38
[...] some of them had a blunt saide with spikes instead of another bladeEh? I've never seen or heard of halberds of such construction. Linky?
Soviet Haaregrad
05-01-2005, 13:50
wait, you haven't heard mine. I came up with the concept of combining a sword and an axe. so it's a sword with the top of it having a large swell and a weighted jewel for more power behind the blow. So I figure this thing could cut limbs off with very little effort, probably on the first swing.
It would be a type of cleaver. It's also a common Indian sword design.
Soviet Haaregrad
05-01-2005, 15:14
I'd use a sword like mine, it's a hybrid of a cutlass and a sabre. It curves slightly forward before curving back, the point is kinda like a Bowie Knife and it has a normal sabre handle, it's about 85cm long.
Demented Hamsters
05-01-2005, 15:18
Katana, wakizashi, and tanto, all at the same time ^_^ (I have nineteen arms in case you were wondering)
are you Kali?
Drunk commies
05-01-2005, 16:18
I thought it was Filipino or is that the language
Anyway; I would use a magic staff!
No, I think you're right. I misspelled.
Drunk commies
05-01-2005, 16:21
I read Without Remorse and I thought 'OOH! I need to try that!'.
Luckily after I bought shotgun shells I realized I'd probably blow myself up or something fooling with explosives, and I stuck to just lighting non-explosive things on fire instead.
Anybody want a free box of shotgun shells?
Here's an idea on what to do with the shotgun shells.
Roll a shell in a paper tube with the primer about one inch from one end of the tube. glue in a wooden dowel chunk with a hole drilled in the middle. Glue cardboard fins onto the other end of the tube. Now you have an object that vaguely resembles a lawn dart. Insert a nail into the hole in the wooden dowel. The nail should fit snugly into the hole. Toss into a crowd. Fun for the whole family! Actually don't do it. It's probably illegal in more ways than one, and you don't really want to blow anyone's nuts off. That's bad news.
Antonion
05-01-2005, 16:23
Well, it depends on how close you mean. If it is grappling and less than two feet from your opponent, I would have to go with the karambit. It's the most deadly hand-to-hand combat knife in the world. However, if you are spaced farther apart, I would have to also go with the katana.
PIcaRDMPCia
05-01-2005, 16:38
I think when I said melee people took it too seriously. I was just thinking of any situation that would come to your mind; like I've said before, I'll stick to my staff. No one will get close enough to me if I have it anyway.
But, I think I probably would keep a back-up knife or too; I'm not too sure.
Drunk commies
05-01-2005, 16:51
Well, it depends on how close you mean. If it is grappling and less than two feet from your opponent, I would have to go with the karambit. It's the most deadly hand-to-hand combat knife in the world. However, if you are spaced farther apart, I would have to also go with the katana.
A karambit is nice, but it can't stab effectively. I have a kris (not a real one just a touristy knockoff) that has a small hooked karambit-like blade in the pommel. It's probably a better bet.
PIcaRDMPCia
05-01-2005, 17:32
Alla-de-bump!
Liskeinland
05-01-2005, 18:17
Probably a powered energy fusion glaive (what exactly is a glaive?). If I was strong enough, I'd like a large double-bladed runic battle axe or smiting hammer, preferably with flames.
Lord Ganja
05-01-2005, 19:11
A stick, about a meter long with some dogshit in the end... or a well used toilet brush are both fearsome weapons... i mean, its shit!
I'd run away at once if someone started waving such menacing and evil weapons...
PIcaRDMPCia
05-01-2005, 19:23
A stick, about a meter long with some dogshit in the end... or a well used toilet brush are both fearsome weapons... i mean, its shit!
I'd run away at once if someone started waving such menacing and evil weapons...
I wouldn't; I'd just chop the weapon in half and disembowel you before you could react.
Drunk commies
05-01-2005, 19:24
I wouldn't; I'd just chop the weapon in half and disembowel you before you could react.
And risk being splattered with bits of shit? I think not. I'm convinced one could rob a bank with a shit covered stick.
PIcaRDMPCia
05-01-2005, 19:27
And risk being splattered with bits of shit? I think not. I'm convinced one could rob a bank with a shit covered stick.
I could always wash it off, of course. I'm not afraid of shit, unlike some people.
PIcaRDMPCia
05-01-2005, 20:33
Merry Bumpmis.
Jordaxia
05-01-2005, 20:38
I can't be bothered reading through it all... so....
swordchucks.
Failing that, a rapier.
Chicken pi
05-01-2005, 20:39
Merry Bumpmis.
And a happy New Bump.
Lex Terrae
05-01-2005, 20:45
A wet noodle. Very effective at close range.
Kanalandr
05-01-2005, 21:29
Probably a powered energy fusion glaive (what exactly is a glaive?). If I was strong enough, I'd like a large double-bladed runic battle axe or smiting hammer, preferably with flames.
A Glaive is a polearm with a long, wide, single-edged blade much like a Sabre attached to the end. It was used primarily against massed infantry from the second or third rank of a shield-wall formation to rain blows on the heads of opposing forces.
Now, as for me, I'd pick either a double-edged longsword, a 14th-Century Cleidhmhor, a straight sword (think Zorro-style) or a Heavy Cavalry sabre. I generally prefer to hack rather than thrust or slash when I use my weapons, much to the chagrin of my sparing partners.
I thought it was Filipino or is that the language
Anyway; I would use a magic staff!
Both Phillipino and Filipino are technically correct. The Island chane is named after King Phillip, but some dialects of spanish and portuguese change the spelling. It really depends on who you ask.
The languanges in the Phillipines are not 'filipino'. The most widespread languages there are actually, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Tagalog, and Visayan (not necessarily in that order, but I am too lazy to confirm right now). There are something like 80 other languages among the various tribes and peopls in the island chain.
And all hail my magic staff.
A karambit is nice, but it can't stab effectively. I have a kris (not a real one just a touristy knockoff) that has a small hooked karambit-like blade in the pommel. It's probably a better bet.
How the hell do you carry (on your person, not in your hand) something like that? You would have to sheath both ends. It would be a bitch and a half to draw it under durress, I bet.
Nasty what you could do with it once out, sure, but I would prefer a single karambit and a seperate dagger (or ten) that I could pull quickly in a heat-up. Bonus if I can sacrifice one while closing and still have spares avail.
PIcaRDMPCia
05-01-2005, 22:37
Both Phillipino and Filipino are technically correct. The Island chane is named after King Phillip, but some dialects of spanish and portuguese change the spelling. It really depends on who you ask.
The languanges in the Phillipines are not 'filipino'. The most widespread languages there are actually, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Tagalog, and Visayan (not necessarily in that order, but I am too lazy to confirm right now). There are something like 80 other languages among the various tribes and peopls in the island chain.
And all hail my magic staff.
Magic staff? Describe it for us, please.
Magic staff? Describe it for us, please.
Now now, there are ladies present.
Nova Vishbar
05-01-2005, 22:43
Katana +2. Or a Morning Star +3. Or both. I don't know if I could take the to hit penalty, though. When I was born, I put more points into intelligence than strength or dexterity.
Drunk commies
05-01-2005, 22:44
How the hell do you carry (on your person, not in your hand) something like that? You would have to sheath both ends. It would be a bitch and a half to draw it under durress, I bet.
Nasty what you could do with it once out, sure, but I would prefer a single karambit and a seperate dagger (or ten) that I could pull quickly in a heat-up. Bonus if I can sacrifice one while closing and still have spares avail.
I don't actually carry it, it's not really concealable. It is in a wooden sheath with no clip or belt loop. it would be tucked into a sarong at the waist in front for a cross-draw. When worn in this way the extra blade surprisingly doesn't get in the way except when you sit but even then the sharp part doesn't touch you. it's just hard to sit with a dagger tucked into your waist.
PIcaRDMPCia
05-01-2005, 23:02
Now now, there are ladies present.
>_> You know what I meant.
Daistallia 2104
06-01-2005, 04:54
Magic staff? Describe it for us, please.
Well according to some sources (http://gaspodesguide.users.btopenworld.com/songs/wizard1.html), "a wizard's staff has a knob on the end"... ;)
Our Earth
06-01-2005, 04:58
I've always been partial to cutlery, but assuming I want to servive the battle, probably a quarterstaff.
I don't actually carry it, it's not really concealable. It is in a wooden sheath with no clip or belt loop. it would be tucked into a sarong at the waist in front for a cross-draw. When worn in this way the extra blade surprisingly doesn't get in the way except when you sit but even then the sharp part doesn't touch you. it's just hard to sit with a dagger tucked into your waist.
I wasn't so much worried about the blade cutting you from wearing it as I was thinking more on the drawing part. I tend to pull blades in a sliding motion, and I can't imaging trying to draw something like this without cutting my hand. I have used the double ended daggers before in classes and whatnot and liked the different techniques avail, but could never get them to draw right. Even using finger touch.
Probably just not used to it, but think I would still prefer to just hold a seperate karambit/dagger in the same hand, so that I can release and still be holding a blade.
Pot smoking Biatch men
06-01-2005, 05:57
sledgehammer, definetly
The Ascendant
06-01-2005, 05:59
A katana or a Bat'leth - or maybe a Dk'Tag (not sure on spelling)
Klingon weaponry...yeah... :D
Definitely twin daggers coated with poison ;). If I don't manage to kill the guy with the hard points :D, the poison should have them dead within a day.
Ultra Cool People
06-01-2005, 06:09
I'd bring Ann Coulter on a lead after denying that harpy from hell her regular diet of fresh babies for a week.
Assuming that you can't use a gun, or other form of ranged weapon, what kind of melee weapon, like a sword, or a spear, or what have you, would you use?
Personally, I'd use my own unique weapon. Basically, it's a staff five feet long, made of metal, with a seven inch long serrated spear point on both ends. Deadly, and efficiant. So, what would you all use?
A nuke, it's not exactly ranged
Ludite Commies
06-01-2005, 08:00
Some lead lined sap gloves, and maybe a needle with the AIDs in it!
One of my childhood aquaintances is in prison right now for sticking a cop with an AIDS needle.
Yes, we understand that it is very bad to stab someone with an AIDS infected needle, but I bet I would get jail time for using one of the many weapons listed here, I believe we are assuming that the cops are uninvolved in any legal sense.
Markdorf
06-01-2005, 14:34
Zweihander here
Lunatic Goofballs
06-01-2005, 14:40
Pies. :)
Lord Ganja
06-01-2005, 16:11
I could always wash it off, of course. I'm not afraid of shit, unlike some people.
Hehehe, in those cases(about one in a thousand would dare to attack, that's atleast my guesstimate) i have the greatest backup ever... nikes... i can outrun most people, especially if they carry heavy swords and shields;)
The Phoenix Milita
06-01-2005, 16:15
a solid hickory baseball bat studded with spikes on one side, smooth on the other and/ or a knife preferably ~7 inches, something like this:
http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/coldsteel/images/cs10dt.jpg
Drunk commies
06-01-2005, 16:18
I wasn't so much worried about the blade cutting you from wearing it as I was thinking more on the drawing part. I tend to pull blades in a sliding motion, and I can't imaging trying to draw something like this without cutting my hand. I have used the double ended daggers before in classes and whatnot and liked the different techniques avail, but could never get them to draw right. Even using finger touch.
Probably just not used to it, but think I would still prefer to just hold a seperate karambit/dagger in the same hand, so that I can release and still be holding a blade.
Drawing it isn't a problem. What I'm worried about is my hand sliding up the Kris blade if I use the Karambit part and it gets snagged on heavy clothing.
This knife isn't a "real" Kris. It's a touristy knock off that doesn't have the wide base to the blade (what's that called again? Pamor or something? I forget.) The blade is no wider than the grip and lacks a crossguard of any type.
Drunk commies
06-01-2005, 16:21
Some lead lined sap gloves, and maybe a needle with the AIDs in it!
Yes, we understand that it is very bad to stab someone with an AIDS infected needle, but I bet I would get jail time for using one of the many weapons listed here, I believe we are assuming that the cops are uninvolved in any legal sense.
I wasn't saying that the weapons listed here were legal to use. I was just relating an entertaining anecdote about a guy I know, a cop and and AIDS needle.
PIcaRDMPCia
06-01-2005, 16:38
A nuke, it's not exactly ranged
Negative; you can't use a nuke in melee combat. Unless it's like the Quest for Glory III Nuke spell...though you lose the game if you use it...and destroy Tarnia while you're at it.
Haken Rider
06-01-2005, 16:42
A whip! Did anyone already say that?
PIcaRDMPCia
06-01-2005, 16:47
Yes; several did, actually.
Pershikia
06-01-2005, 16:49
Halberd. You are in the other end, and enemy in the other. (I know it's useless against footmen, but still.)
PIcaRDMPCia
06-01-2005, 18:06
*bumped*
The Tribes Of Longton
06-01-2005, 18:40
do shuriken count?
PIcaRDMPCia
06-01-2005, 18:45
do shuriken count?
If you're talking about the larger kind you can use as a weapon without throwing them, then yes; otherwise, no.
Daistallia 2104
06-01-2005, 18:56
Negative; you can't use a nuke in melee combat. Unless it's like the Quest for Glory III Nuke spell...though you lose the game if you use it...and destroy Tarnia while you're at it.
Or you're using a W45 medium atomic demolition munition or a B54 special atomic demolition munition... (or the Soviet/Russian/Al Quaida/??? equivilant) http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0499/museum2.htm
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/DAHSUM/1980/ch11.htm
Lubuckstan
10-01-2005, 18:37
Adamantium Claws !
or my lacrosse stick, nice sturdy oak shaft...
PIcaRDMPCia
10-01-2005, 18:39
Adamantium Claws !
or my lacrosse stick, nice sturdy oak shaft...
Woah; someone bumped my longest thread ever. Thank you.
im thinking a guitar. bash it on their head!
Purplestan
18-01-2005, 03:22
I don't know if it's been said before and I'm sorry if it has but...
"Swordchucks, yo" - 8 Bit Theatre
But honestly, probably a katana.
Holy Sheep
18-01-2005, 03:26
Sarissa, with a sheild and 255 of my friends filling out the formation. Unbeatable without ranged weaponry.
Wild Hand Motions
18-01-2005, 04:25
Sais are my weapons of choice. I have a pair, but I've not yet begun training.
A whip is my second favorite-and that I am skilled in. *manic grin*
Deo Garricko
18-01-2005, 04:56
Butterfly swords. Because they can pimp longer weapons if you know how to use them. They are twelve to fifteen inch long, made of steel, from China. Specificly with Wing Chun techniques.
Gradonia
18-01-2005, 05:09
I would use two 28 inch katana blades. Or even to smaller battle axe. Not the normal double headed axe but ones that are less than 30 inches. the head of the axe would take up most of the length. A slight hook would be at the top hooking to the non edged side to catch blades. The head of the axe would not be solld but would have a whole in it to get rid of weight. One in each hand it would be hard to stop.
Gradonia
18-01-2005, 05:14
I would use two 28 inch katana blades. Or even to smaller battle axe. Not the normal double headed axe but ones that are less than 30 inches. the head of the axe would take up most of the length. A slight hook would be at the top hooking to the non edged side to catch blades. The head of the axe would not be solld but would have a whole in it to get rid of weight. One in each hand it would be hard to stop. On second thought a nice battle hammer would do nicely. They are so deadly that they were outlawed in Germany and England, accept for the royals of course who could wear them ceremoniously. Also a nice long sword. similiar to william wallace's sword. With enough training they can be just as fast and dead as Katana blades. So said history channel. You just have to get the pictures out of your head that all you do with them is swing them back and forth. Argh! so many choices! Ill just carry them all at the same time. I think that after awhile Ill get used to the weight and it wouldnt hinder me in combat. :D
The Psyker VTwoPointOh
18-01-2005, 06:03
Claymore or Hand and A half sword, though I'd have to learn how to use them first :D
Findecano Calaelen
18-01-2005, 06:06
I still havnt seen a better weapon sugestion then my Piano
Piano pwns you
A Big Metal Pipe :sniper:
Unaha-Closp
18-01-2005, 06:20
Taiaha
http://www.eng.umu.se/E3ht03/tasc/Erik/taiaha.htm (http://)
Big Frickin' Claymore Sword. Huge things that are 6 feet long, yeah baby. Like the one the real William Wallace used. Wow. Big honking thing. Or a simply a large Battle Axe, bladed on both sides.
Daistallia 2104
18-01-2005, 06:32
I still havnt seen a better weapon sugestion then my Piano
Piano pwns you
If you can actually use a piano as a melee weapon I'll be very impresed (probably at your hernia).
If you intend to use it as an "accoustic weapon", I'll be forced to break my viola out of retirment. :eek: I warn you, though, it's use would violate several international conventions regarding inhumane weapons. (I am the inspiration for a number of viola jokes (http://www.petelevin.com/violajokes.htm), after all.)
Unaha-Closp
18-01-2005, 06:43
Halitosis - the voice activated close combat weapon.
Coral Zone
18-01-2005, 06:48
This giant robot:
http://news.com.com/Giant+robots+in+the+backyard/2100-1026_3-5499730.html?tag=nefd.lede
Or preferably, a version of it that wouldn't fall over on taking its first step. (Realistically, a human-size suit of powered armor would be more practical than a true "mecha." MIT is working on powered armor now with DARPA funding as part of the "Institute for Soldier Nanotechnology.")
Enlighted Freedom
18-01-2005, 06:50
a double bladed sword is the best one for me
you know what i mean a staff with swords on both sides very well
balanced
Norfairdepths
18-01-2005, 06:59
broom, plain and simple
who wants a face full of bristle?
Sais are my weapons of choice. I have a pair, but I've not yet begun training.
Good luck with the sai. They are total bitches to learn.
who wants a face full of bristle?
Ba-dum-bump-CHING!
Kellarly
18-01-2005, 17:19
Although i train frequently with swords, there is really nothing close combat wise that comes close to the simplest of weapons, the quarter(or half) staff.
Most weapons cannot get in range to hit you, without the great risk of gettin bashed on the way in. Its light, flexible, very strong, when treated corectly and tipped with iron or steel, can be very well balanced and can connect with a killer blow. It was often carried as a premiere weapon, even over a sword (as swords used to often be merely back up weapons, albeit very expensive ones), as it was more effective in a fight.
(Read English Martial Arts by Terry Brown for more on this)
- Katanas, and other similar swords (mostly of asian origin) remember, although brilliantly strong and sharp to the cut, they are not good at all for thrusting, the reach isn't amazing if you use them in two hands. As for their effectiveness against armour, they can't cut through plate armour, they have to go for the joints where its chain mail it they are to have any effect. The Japanese (samurai) armour was built to deflect, not stop at katana cut/arrow/spear point).
- Rapiers, thrusting swords and the like. Good reach, very good for thrusting, not very good at cuts (albeit painful annoying ones), and can be broken by larger heavier weapons (try blocking a full sized battle axe with one)
- 11th to 15th Century War Sword, Chinese Glim, (single- hand and a half- two handed), very strong, flexible, well balanced (on the whole) and despite current myths not that heavy. (A large, functional, war sword would not way more than 3-5lbs, even the largest claymores were never more than 7lbs. Single hand broadswords were on average 2 1/2 to 3 1/2lbs). Good at thrusting and cutting, although not the best at either. Mostly built to go up against armour and break down the links in the armour, as even the biggest could not cut through plate without a massively strong swing.
Kanalandr
23-01-2005, 01:38
Also a nice long sword. similiar to william wallace's sword. With enough training they can be just as fast and dead as Katana blades. So said history channel. You just have to get the pictures out of your head that all you do with them is swing them back and forth.
Umm, as someone who owns a Claymore like the one Gibson used in Braveheart, I'd have to say that the History Channel was dead wrong about them being as fast as a Katana (or any other single-handed sword). They're big, heavy weapons, meant for smashing apart formations of infantry and crushing plate armour. And as far as your axes go, look into Viking-styled hand axes. They're light enough to move quickly with one hand, but because of their blade design, they're incredibly capable when it comes to penetrating mail or plate.
And all axes are crap for parrying, as swords, spears, hammers, maces or knives would be able to disengage the weapon and re-engage the opponet much quicker than the axeman could respond. Thus single-handed axes typically being used with shields.
PIcaRDMPCia
23-01-2005, 03:02
I still prefer staffs to anything else.