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*The Island is prepared to sue Bush for persuing global warming policys that threaten its very existence--in light of all the tidal waves Bushs anti environmental policys are causing on a global scale the other nations of the world must apply sanctions to the US until Bush stops obstructing the fight against the planets survival

The Pacifica island nation of Tuvalu stands just 13 feet about the sea level at its highest point. It faces oblivion if global warming causes the sea to rise.
While the island was not affected by the tsunami, residents say routine flooding regularly into the middle of the island, destroying food crops and trees which have been there for decades.

Two years ago the government announced they might sue the United States and Australia because they have rejected the Kyoto protocol on global warming.
democracynow.org

Are you MKULTRA's puppet, by any chance?

Are you MKULTRA's puppet, by any chance?
I'm thinking the same thing.

Skapedroe, please refrain from posting trolling messages like this *reports this thread to Mods*

Are you MKULTRA's puppet, by any chance?
MKULTRA was deated for speaking truth to power

anti-americana gone too far...

MKULTRA was deated for speaking truth to power

That doesn't answer the question, my friend.

I'm thinking the same thing.

Skapedroe, please refrain from posting trolling messages like this *reports this thread to Mods*
its not trolling to speak political truths-FACT: Bush supports global warming policies

its not trolling to speak political truths-FACT: Bush supports global warming policies
It is trolling to suggest that Bush caused an earthquake...

its not trolling to speak political truths-FACT: Bush supports global warming policies
While I don't like Bush messing w/the environment, it's also been scientifically documented that periods of "global warming" come and go throughout our planet's history.

Oh, and how can global warming cause an earthquake?!??!

anti-americana gone too far...
thanks to Bush

It is trolling to suggest that Bush caused an earthquake...
how do we know he didnt?

Hey Mkultra!

Much as I dislike the shrub, you will have a hard time linking him to plate tectonic movement.

How long does it take a Mod to lock this?

its not trolling to speak political truths-FACT: Bush supports global warming policies

This wave was caused by an earthquake. Earthquakes have nothing to do with the climate, NOTHING. As I geography student I have to make it abundantly clear how little earthquakes have to do with global warming. However, if you can prove that rising sea levels made the island more vulnerable to the tidal wave, fair play to you.

While I don't like Bush messing w/the environment, it's also been scientifically documented that periods of "global warming" come and go throughout our planet's history.

Oh, and how can global warming cause an earthquake?!??!
I can easily answer this but I dont talk to people who are pro-censorship

I can easily answer this but I dont talk to people who are pro-censorship

In other words, you don't have proof.

I can easily answer this but I dont talk to people who are pro-censorship
ROFLMAO! I am one of the biggest ciritics of censorship - all because I report spam to the Mods doesn't mean I support censorship

Now answer away

i hate Bush. but to blame him for plate tectonics is a pile of bullshit

Hey Mkultra!

Much as I dislike the shrub, you will have a hard time linking him to plate tectonic movement.
the planet is a living organism and senses alterations to the enviroment

the planet is a living organism and senses alterations to the enviroment
ROFLMAO

the planet is a living organism and senses alterations to the enviroment

So you're a pantheist, too?

Skapedroe = Winnie democrat hippie who blames bush for everything....
alright Mr. Hippie two things
1. it was just one tidal wave that hit many locations
2. we need to place sanctions on all the countries.... not just the US, thats like having a gun in the hands of a serial killer and taking 1 bullet out of the clip....you still have a loaded gun....


friggin hippie

the planet is a living organism and senses alterations to the enviroment

*Kicks the ground*

Planet: "OUCH! YOU BASTARD!!!!!"

:p

How long does it take a Mod to lock this?
why do Bush lovers allway seek to criminalize/censor dissent?

Over 50,000 people die and you use it as an attack on Bush? That's horrible.

There's plenty of other ammo out there, have some respect.

Like everyone else here has said, the earthquake that caused the tidal wave wasn't caused by global warming, because it has no effect on things below the surface.
But that thing about the island is legit.

first off, i'm a bush critic...second off, don't make this about bush...you're just an idiot.

why do Bush lovers allway seek to criminalize/censor dissent?

'Dissent' and 'trolling' are not the same thing, my friend.

This wave was caused by an earthquake. Earthquakes have nothing to do with the climate, NOTHING. As I geography student I have to make it abundantly clear how little earthquakes have to do with global warming. However, if you can prove that rising sea levels made the island more vulnerable to the tidal wave, fair play to you.
the earth as a living organism with its own consciousness cannot be so easily segmented this way. If theres an imbalance somewhere it has a ripple effect everywhere

In other words, you don't have proof.
yes I do--its just not material bound proof

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This isn't dissent, this is just plain retarded.

To say you don't like Bush's policies and that he is a lousy president would be dissent and perfectly fine. You are free to say that just as people are free to disagree with your opinions.

To say he caused an earthquake because of global warning is the most idiotic thing I've read today.

Quite frankly, I think the fact that you using this awful tragedy to make some of political message against Bush is dispicable. In my opinion, you are a scumbag.

It's people like you that made me realize how Left-Wing American liberalism is a dying arena of thought, and that the principal followers are stupid hippies and arrogant college professors. For that, I thank you.

yes I do--its just not material bound proof

So what kind of proof could you provide us with, then?

ROFLMAO! I am one of the biggest ciritics of censorship - all because I report spam to the Mods doesn't mean I support censorship

Now answer away
when did news become spam?

As much as I hate Bush, it is utterly stupid to blame him for plate tectonic movemnt that caused an earthquake, which, in turn, caused a tidal wave killing many people in southern Asia. :rolleyes:

*The Island is prepared to sue Bush for persuing global warming policys that threaten its very existence--in light of all the tidal waves Bushs anti environmental policys are causing on a global scale the other nations of the world must apply sanctions to the US until Bush stops obstructing the fight against the planets survival

The Pacifica island nation of Tuvalu stands just 13 feet about the sea level at its highest point. It faces oblivion if global warming causes the sea to rise.
While the island was not affected by the tsunami, residents say routine flooding regularly into the middle of the island, destroying food crops and trees which have been there for decades.

Two years ago the government announced they might sue the United States and Australia because they have rejected the Kyoto protocol on global warming.
democracynow.org

While I like Bush just slightly less than how much the Jews liked Hitler...

The idea that 4 years of Dumbya led to earthquakes and tsunamies, is patently ludicrous.

I hate the massive "Global Warming" catastrophe concept. The simple fact is, it does not take place on this time scale.... And it has nothing to do with earthquakes. (which are what cause a Tsunami). Earthquakes are caused by the natural release of tension across plates in the earth's crust. This is a natural build up of pressure, and a natural release of tension, resulting in a natural transfer of energy into the waters, resulting in the natural formation of a massive wave (sic tsunami) which naturally impacts costal areas.

the earth as a living organism with its own consciousness cannot be so easily segmented this way. If theres an imbalance somewhere it has a ripple effect everywhere

So, does the planet have a brain, too? A nervous system?

ROFLMAO
Ditto!!! :D

the earth as a living organism with its own consciousness cannot be so easily segmented this way. If theres an imbalance somewhere it has a ripple effect everywhere

So what did Bush do to cause the ice age that happened 10,000 years ago?

when did news become spam?

When did spam become news?

i realized something Skapedroe is just a 14 year old who was brain washed by Democrats and thinks he has a major in geology.... yea well i do and Global warming has only about a .09 effect on the surface of the earth....when global warming heats the globe like an oven ill be the guy who doesn't go outside and has a brand new Air conditioning system...also the earth changes in 2 phases a ice age and a tropical age we were blessed with being in the transition from the ages why do you think the dinosaurs age was so tropical??? because the earth warmed up even in Pennsylvania it was tropical....

So you're a pantheist, too?
yes--I think Prince Charles looks like an idiot when he dresses the way he does

the planet is a friggin idiot then. nice going, gaia.

Will the real Gaia please stand up.....

Dude, the ECOSPHERE is a "living organism" in the Gaia hypothesis.... not the entire planet. Things which effect the ECOSPHERE do not impact the planet in aspects such as plate-techtonics, magma displacement and magnetic drift.

Mother Nature started the war for survival and now she needs a helping hand because she is losing? Tough tomalies.

Skapedroe = Winnie democrat hippie who blames bush for everything....
alright Mr. Hippie two things
1. it was just one tidal wave that hit many locations
2. we need to place sanctions on all the countries.... not just the US, thats like having a gun in the hands of a serial killer and taking 1 bullet out of the clip....you still have a loaded gun....


friggin hippie
Bush is the apolcalypse President-sanctions only make sense when used to isolate the evil

It's people like you that made me realize how Left-Wing American liberalism is a dying arena of thought, and that the principal followers are stupid hippies and arrogant college professors. For that, I thank you.

Oh come on now.

Extreamists exist everywhere.

Arrogrant college professors happen be they liberal, conservative, communist, etc.

The Hippies are gone......

http://www.fornits.com/wwf/images/smiles/icon_troll.gif
Need I say it again?

Mother Earth. We must respect her. A butterfly flaps its wings, and a hurricane is started in the Atlantic . . . Birds singing in the trees, idyllic meadows, beautiful mountains . . . and BAM! Bushie is destroying it all. He caused the tsunami, he caused 9/11, he started WWII, he bombed Hiroshima, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!!!
(Head in clouds, rambling on ...). :p

Mother Nature started the war for survival and now she needs a helping hand because she is losing? Tough tomalies.

I would recommend adding a little [/sarcasm] tag to that. Skapadroe will probably take you seriously.

The Hippies are gone......

No, they're not. They grew up, took showers, and became politicians.

So, the sanctions Bush imposed 10 years before he took office caused an earthquake?

Over 50,000 people die and you use it as an attack on Bush? That's horrible.

There's plenty of other ammo out there, have some respect.
but im doing it out of their respect

http://www.fornits.com/wwf/images/smiles/icon_troll.gif
Need I say it again?
What exactly is meant by "trolling"?

What exactly is meant by "trolling"?

What Skapedroe does.

Mother Earth. We must respect her. A butterfly flaps its wings, and a hurricane is started in the Atlantic . . . Birds singing in the trees, idyllic meadows, beautiful mountains . . . and BAM! Bushie is destroying it all. He caused the tsunami, he caused 9/11, he started WWII, he bombed Hiroshima, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!!!
(Head in clouds, rambling on ...). :p

Wait.....Bush is really Gozer? It all makes sense now.

Like everyone else here has said, the earthquake that caused the tidal wave wasn't caused by global warming, because it has no effect on things below the surface.
But that thing about the island is legit.
theres no evidence that global warming doesnt cause earthquakes

What exactly is meant by "trolling"?

It refers to posting an inflammatory comment just to get a reaction. e.g. "Bush is an idiot", "gay people should be deported", etc.

What exactly is meant by "trolling"?
Posting topics with the intent of angering posters and them having angry resopnses

(Wow, I've surpassed 4000 posts!)

theres no evidence that global warming doesnt cause earthquakes

[Dr. Evil voice]Riiiiiiiiiight[/Dr. Evil voice]

What Skapedroe does.
Which is what? Starting an admittedly silly thread, but nothing worse than that? Or is he/she masquerading as someone that was kicked earlier, i.e. Mkultra?

'Dissent' and 'trolling' are not the same thing, my friend.
I agree--thats why I wish certain people would stop trolling me for dissenting altho I wont report it cause im against censorship

theres no evidence that global warming doesnt cause earthquakes


There is no proof you don't cause earthquakes.


THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS! You make a statement (ie Global Warming Causes Earthquakes) you have to cite evidence to support it.

I am not going to teach you scientific method.

Posting topics with the intent of angering posters and them having angry resopnses

(Wow, I've surpassed 4000 posts!)
Thanks, and congratulations!

theres no evidence that global warming doesnt cause earthquakes

Well, there aren't any credible theories that support your view. Explain to me how global warming would cause earthquakes. Oh yeah, we're hurting Gaia.

*yawn* Night, night, crazy people. :)

http://www.fornits.com/wwf/images/smiles/icon_troll.gif
is that your self portrait? :)

theres no evidence that global warming doesnt cause earthquakes
There is no evidence that you are not Jesus the second coming, either, but I'm not going to promote that argument . . . well, maybe I am the second coming, but I didn't want to get into that yet . . .

Oh come on now.

Extreamists exist everywhere.

Arrogrant college professors happen be they liberal, conservative, communist, etc.

The Hippies are gone......

Of course extremists are everywhere, it's just that most of the ones I've met have beliefs that are fairly to the left. Not that I don't know any racist rednecks...hell, I live in North Carolina. The majority of college and university faculty are liberal, though. And if you think hippies are gone, you've never been to Asheville, NC or Warren Wilson College, my friend!

I agree--thats why I wish certain people would stop trolling me for dissenting altho I wont report it cause im against censorship

Actually, requiring you to adhere to the rules of a privatly owned and operated web forum is not censorship.

The government is not shutting you up if a mod deletes your inflammatory posts. This server isn't even in the US, if I remember correctly.

This isn't dissent, this is just plain retarded.

To say you don't like Bush's policies and that he is a lousy president would be dissent and perfectly fine. You are free to say that just as people are free to disagree with your opinions.

To say he caused an earthquake because of global warning is the most idiotic thing I've read today.

Quite frankly, I think the fact that you using this awful tragedy to make some of political message against Bush is dispicable. In my opinion, you are a scumbag.in my opinion your a scumbag to support the murder of american soldiers to give corporate welfare to halliburtons greed so we all have our opinions of each other

Skapedroe, thanks for the amusement. I now communicate to you thru the great Gaia my good will and blessings :p

theres no evidence that global warming doesnt cause earthquakes

first of all, it was a TSUNAMI, not a tidal wave...very different things.

second of all, there's also no evidence to suggest that george w. bush isn't god.

Ok....

Earthquakes are caused by release of tension in sliding crust plates along the surface of the earth. The movements of these plates is determined by the flow and direction of magma in the mantle. Now, this flow is caused by the gradual cooling of the earth's core over billions and billions and billions of years, which is still going on. And effected by tidal gravitational forces of the sun. Now, this is all occuring because of COOLING, that is natural cooling of the earth, in conjunction with gravitational forces.... Neither of which are in any way related to the "global warming" of the earth's atmosphere because of the presence of higher ratios of CO, CO2 and NO2 and other "greenhouse gases" which trap more of the solar rays in the atmosphere, thus warming it up.....

The two are complete non-related areas.

It's people like you that made me realize how Left-Wing American liberalism is a dying arena of thought, and that the principal followers are stupid hippies and arrogant college professors. For that, I thank you.
rightwing dinosaurs have been proclaiming the "death" of liberalism for millenia

is that your self portrait? :)
Yes - I'm very sexy, no? :D

I agree--thats why I wish certain people would stop trolling me for dissenting altho I wont report it cause im against censorship

*sigh*

Where have they been keeping you? :headbang:

No, they're not. They grew up, took showers, and became politicians.
and Skapedroe too

So what kind of proof could you provide us with, then?
simple logic

simple logic

Thanks. Now I'm convinced. :)

Five more posts and I reach 300 . . . or is that 4, after this one?

As much as I hate Bush, it is utterly stupid to blame him for plate tectonic movemnt that caused an earthquake, which, in turn, caused a tidal wave killing many people in southern Asia. :rolleyes:
this issue has already been addressed and discarded

this issue has already been addressed and discarded

Likewise, so has your 'argument.'

in my opinion your a scumbag to support the murder of american soldiers to give corporate welfare to halliburtons greed so we all have our opinions of each other


And I said that when? What did I say about Halliburton or soldiers or corporate welfare?

I didn't say a damned thing about those to you. Unless, we have had this conversation and you are a previously banned person with a new name. But that couldn't be it, could it?

simple logic

Ok, explain to me, then, how is it that the entrance of higher ratios of "greenhouse gases" like Carbon-Monoxide, Carbon-Dioxide and Nitrous-Oxide have increased the cooling pace of the earth's core, and/or increased the effect of the Suns gravity on the earth's core.....

While I like Bush just slightly less than how much the Jews liked Hitler...

The idea that 4 years of Dumbya led to earthquakes and tsunamies, is patently ludicrous.

I hate the massive "Global Warming" catastrophe concept. The simple fact is, it does not take place on this time scale.... And it has nothing to do with earthquakes. (which are what cause a Tsunami). Earthquakes are caused by the natural release of tension across plates in the earth's crust. This is a natural build up of pressure, and a natural release of tension, resulting in a natural transfer of energy into the waters, resulting in the natural formation of a massive wave (sic tsunami) which naturally impacts costal areas.
concentrated forms of heat release tensions causing tectonic re-adjustment

concentrated forms of heat release tensions causing tectonic re-adjustment

If you say so. :rolleyes:

concentrated forms of heat release tensions causing tectonic re-adjustment
you are a idiot and have no idea of what your talking about.... how old are you 6....10...2?

*WOOT BR0KE 300*

rightwing dinosaurs have been proclaiming the "death" of liberalism for millenia

Wow, I didn't know that dinosaurs had political affiliations...or that liberalism has existed for millenia. Thanks for the enlightenment.

So, does the planet have a brain, too? A nervous system?
yes altho it may take a form not readily recognizable to us

yes altho it may take a form not readily recognizable to us

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

concentrated forms of heat release tensions causing tectonic re-adjustment

this actually made me laugh out loud...and few things do that. you are funny.

concentrated forms of heat release tensions causing tectonic re-adjustment

Concentrated forms of heat? Has someone been setting off nuclear explosives along fault lines?

Solar radiation does not transfer enough energy to alter the internal dynamics of the mantle, which is what pushed the plates.

iLock!

(damn, I don't have Modpowers)

yes altho it may take a form not readily recognizable to us
do you believe in elves orcs and unicorns too?

So what did Bush do to cause the ice age that happened 10,000 years ago?
Bushs ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from a giant crystal thru the center of the earths core

iLock!

(damn, I don't have Modpowers)

C'mon, man, don't do that. This is getting very amusing. I hope the mods either don't lock this, or else wait a very, very long time to lock it.

At least TRA's puppets names' are getting better.

Bushs ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from a giant crystal thru the center of the earths core

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

...oh. You were serious?

Has anybody ever read 'State of Fear' by Michael Crighton? It has some very sharp things to say about the religion of environmentalism.

LG!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Welcome back!!!!! :) :) :)

Bushs ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from a giant crystal thru the center of the earths core

best post of all time.

Bushs ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from a giant crystal thru the center of the earths core


Wait.....my sarcasm detector isn't working.....I hope

either that, or you are batshit insane.

Mind telling us where you found that tidbit of wisdom?

im going to bed but ill post tomarrow

Bushs ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from a giant crystal thru the center of the earths core
Whooboy. That made my day.

:cool points:

Mind telling us where you found that tidbit of wisdom?

I have a feeling you don't want to know. :(

Bushs ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from a giant crystal thru the center of the earths core
This is *so* going in my Signature

Are you kidding? I'm dying to find out. I hope its a website with a message board.

LG!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Welcome back!!!!! :) :) :)

Thanks. I had a busy weekend. Family obligations and such. *nod*

Will the real Gaia please stand up.....

Dude, the ECOSPHERE is a "living organism" in the Gaia hypothesis.... not the entire planet. Things which effect the ECOSPHERE do not impact the planet in aspects such as plate-techtonics, magma displacement and magnetic drift.
so if the eco sphere is alive then why isnt the planet?

Bushs ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from a giant crystal thru the center of the earths core
Yes, and they eliminated the dinosaurs by sending Halliburton back in time to harvest the oil early, where they slaughtered the dinosaurs wholesale, and secretly dug out a big crater to blame it on an innocent asteroid. Oh, the humanity!!!! Or, er, the dinosaurity!!!

This is *so* going in my Signature
Good idea! Wish I'd thought of it first ... :(

This is *so* going in my Signature

It already went into mine. :D

The theory is that the earth and gaia have the same relationship you have with your house (or rather your parents' house)

If I break the front door, you don't feel it. You are alive, not the house.

Yes, and they eliminated the dinosaurs by sending Halliburton back in time to harvest the oil early, where they slaughtered the dinosaurs wholesale, and secretly dug out a big crater to blame it on an innocent asteroid. Oh, the humanity!!!! Or, er, the dinosaurity!!!
Oh, and I forgot the obligatory ...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!

Skrapedoe, does the planet have a soul? Or feelings? If I call it a bad name, will it hurt its feelings and make it cry? :D

I like my new sig :D

This is *so* going in my Signature
Ditto!!!

I would recommend adding a little [/sarcasm] tag to that. Skapadroe will probably take you seriously.
I not only took him seriously I agreed with it

So, why are you crying about global warming? It means we are winning.

Ditto!!!
OMG so many people have added this quote to their sig!

Posting topics with the intent of angering posters and them having angry resopnses

(Wow, I've surpassed 4000 posts!)
people are responsible for their own emotions--not all anger is unhealthy-some anger leads to greater insights

Power, your sig is getting too big.

Best. Thread. Ever.

:cool:

people are responsible for their own emotions--not all anger is unhealthy-some anger leads to greater insights
Said the master to the apprentice. And remember to meditate on that grilled cheese sandwich for at least three hours . . .

people are responsible for their own emotions

No, emotions are reactions to stimuli.

--not all anger is unhealthy-some anger leads to greater insights

I don't need to be angry to know you're nuts.

There is no evidence that you are not Jesus the second coming, either, but I'm not going to promote that argument . . . well, maybe I am the second coming, but I didn't want to get into that yet . . .
correct so it logically follows that if you believe in everything then you can never be wrong

No, emotions are reactions to stimuli.



I don't need to be angry to know you're nuts.
But aren't nuts part of Mother Earth, to be cherished and worshipped? *chuckle*
People, you cannot take Skapedroe seriously! He/she has exhibited all the symptoms of what psychologists call - absolutely nuts!!!

correct so it logically follows that if you believe in everything then you can never be wrong
Your logic is unassailable, as usual. NOT!!! :D :D :D

Skapedroe, thanks for the amusement. I now communicate to you thru the great Gaia my good will and blessings :p
the planet will talk to us if we would only listen

correct so it logically follows that if you believe in everything then you can never be wrong

Of course you can. That statement was the polar opposite of logic.

Normally, at this point, I would tell you to stop posting while high, but you are just too much fun.

so if the eco sphere is alive then why isnt the planet?

The planet is composed of more than the Ecosphere..... The ecosphere is the inter-relation of living creatures, and their cursory self-formed enviroment (high oxygenated atmosphere, etc.) The Planet itself is merely the residence of the ecosphere, and while the ecosphere is dependent upon the planet, the planet is not dependent upon the ecosphere; and exists regardless of the presence of the ecosphere.

However, in honor of George Carlin, to expand the Gaia hyposthesis!


Save the planet? Save the planet? There's nothing wrong with the planet! It's the people who are fucked!

Plastic doesn't hurt the planet.... Who knows... maybe the planet wanted plastic... form it into a new amalgamation, the EARTH PLUS PLASTIC!

See, the earth didn't know how to make plastic.... It needed us.... Now it has its plastic... we're not needed anymore.... DOWNSIZING... Hear about all these AIDS and EBOLA and other diseases? That's just the planets way to downsize... We're obsolete. The planet is phasing us out...

the planet will talk to us if we would only listen

I don't hear a damn thing. :mad:

the planet will talk to us if we would only listen


Wait.....the planet is talking to me.....oh my God.....I can hear it.......it wants me to deliver a message to you......SHADDUP, DUMBASS!

Of course you can. That statement was the polar opposite of logic.

Normally, at this point, I would tell you to stop posting while high, but you are just too much fun.
Ain't it the truth! I haven't had this much fun in a thread in a while. Hats off to Skapedroe, for your entertaining, if somewhat - well, ABSOLUTELY NUTTY posts!

Skapedroe would be great fun at parties, wouldn't he? :p

Ok....

Earthquakes are caused by release of tension in sliding crust plates along the surface of the earth. The movements of these plates is determined by the flow and direction of magma in the mantle. Now, this flow is caused by the gradual cooling of the earth's core over billions and billions and billions of years, which is still going on. And effected by tidal gravitational forces of the sun. Now, this is all occuring because of COOLING, that is natural cooling of the earth, in conjunction with gravitational forces.... Neither of which are in any way related to the "global warming" of the earth's atmosphere because of the presence of higher ratios of CO, CO2 and NO2 and other "greenhouse gases" which trap more of the solar rays in the atmosphere, thus warming it up.....

The two are complete non-related areas.not necessarily--one may be cooling off while the other is heating up. dont you find that would cause a type of an earthquake in your life too? or at least some kinda plate shift

Skapedroe would be great fun at parties, wouldn't he? :p


So would a monkey in a cage, until the feces start flying...........in both cases.

So would a monkey in a cage, until the feces start flying...........in both cases.

Lol

Ain't it the truth! I haven't had this much fun in a thread in a while. Hats off to Skapedroe, for your entertaining, if somewhat - well, ABSOLUTELY NUTTY posts!
Hear hear!

So would a monkey in a cage, until the feces start flying...........in both cases.

hehe...

So would a monkey in a cage, until the feces start flying...........in both cases.

I tried that. It was still pretty fun. Of course, it wasn't MY house. ;)

Yes - I'm very sexy, no? :D
well it looked kinda like you wanted to kill me

I tried that. It was still pretty fun. Of course, it wasn't MY house. ;)


I remember....you still haven't paid me for the cleaning bill.

It is trolling to suggest that Bush caused an earthquake...
It's not trolling, but it is BS.

not necessarily--one may be cooling off while the other is heating up. dont you find that would cause a type of an earthquake in your life too? or at least some kinda plate shift
Actually, an unnamed corporate entity (ok, I admit, it's HALLIBURTON, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) was sent on an undersea mission by Dick Cheney at the behest of the Shrub, and injected a whole environmentally unsafe tanker full of oil into the place where the continental plates meet, just to cause this disaster, so HALLIBURTON - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - could then win the reconstruction contract. :cool:

Likewise, so has your 'argument.'
not really--it just went on to a more spiritual dimension

not necessarily--one may be cooling off while the other is heating up. dont you find that would cause a type of an earthquake in your life too? or at least some kinda plate shift

No, it wouldn't.

The average temperature of the earth's atmosphere is about several thousand degrees less than the core. The temperature diferential, due to global warming is decreasing (minutely in comparison). "Coolings" and "Warming" are relative terms, complete disconnected from one another.

About the only time the suns radiation would play an impact in earth's techtonic activity, will be when she has almost exhausted her hydrogen supply in about 5 billion years from now, and expands into a red-giant; puting the earth extreme close to (if not engulfed by) the sun.

Selgin, you forgot that they used the giant crystal that causedthe ice age to ignite the oil tanker.......duh

not really--it just went on to a more spiritual dimension
Incense filled the air ... its scent mixed with that of hashish, crack, and EVERY OTHER MIND-ALTERING DRUG KNOWN TO MAN!!!!
(I know what you're thinking - what's wrong with a few mind-altering drugs between friends).

Selgin, you forgot that they used the giant crystal that causedthe ice age to ignite the oil tanker.......duh
Apologies. A factual error on my part. Please forgive my ignorance. :D

While this is an important problem...who the f\/ck gives a skit about Tuvalu? not many people. I doubt they'll get very far in suing...who will be their lawyers? fish?

Apologies. A factual error on my part. Please forgive my ignorance. :D
You are forgiven

Ok, explain to me, then, how is it that the entrance of higher ratios of "greenhouse gases" like Carbon-Monoxide, Carbon-Dioxide and Nitrous-Oxide have increased the cooling pace of the earth's core, and/or increased the effect of the Suns gravity on the earth's core.....
the earths core would naturally cool faster in responce to the greater amounts of heat being released topically--its part of the earths self healing process and obsession with balance

The core of the earth is molten rock. Dissipating gases are not going to affect the temperature of the core unless they dissipate at such a rate as to make the planet explode.

Where would all the heat energy go?

In order to cool, it has to transfer energy. The only place that energy can go is out. So, under your theory, Mother Earth is to blame for global warming.

That bitch.

The core of the earth is molten rock. Dissipating gases are not going to affect the temperature of the core unless they dissipate at such a rate as to make the planet explode.
If I may paraphrase the cartoon character 'Strong Bad'

"Your earth a 'splode"

Where would all the heat energy go?

In order to cool, it has to transfer energy. The only place that energy can go is out. So, under your theory, Mother Earth is to blame for global warming.

That bitch.

Don't say that. :mad:

You'll hurt her feelings! :D

Concentrated forms of heat? Has someone been setting off nuclear explosives along fault lines?

Solar radiation does not transfer enough energy to alter the internal dynamics of the mantle, which is what pushed the plates.
if I put alot of sun lamps closer and closer to your body would you move yes or no?

Hey, she started this fight, I'm gonna end it.

LOL,a couple of hours ago in an AOL chat, someone proclaimed that Atlantis had begun to rise and now this. It's the night of the paranoid, conspiracy crazed fruitcakes tonight.

Although Skapedroe might be one of those Falun Gong nuts. After all their leader, "Master Li", told them that if they practiced Falun Gong, rocks and trees would begin talking to them... Too bad China is the only one that realizes that they are fruitcakes...

The Indian plate had just dived under the Burma plate. The fact that it happened near the Ring of Fire just makes it more likely that something like this was bound to occur. Some people needto open up middle school textbooks.

A coincidence is that almost only Islamic countries and places (Southern Thailand, Northern Sri Lanka) were hit.... I say almost because the majority of Sri Lankans are Buddhists and Indians are Hindu.

A song keeps popping into my head when I hear or see anything of this disaster is Metallica's "The Thing That Should Not Be".

Lastly,Tuvalu is stupid. The US is far from the leading contributor of greenhouse gases. Try India, China, or maybe even some old Soviet bloc countries.

if I put alot of sun lamps closer and closer to your body would you move yes or no?

Yes, because I feel the heat. Rocks do not. It's that simple.

do you believe in elves orcs and unicorns too?
yes because we cant conceive impossible things

At least TRA's puppets names' are getting better.
I like your new one too Foxx :D

yes because we cant conceive impossible things


I love you. I truly do. I love you more than any man has ever loved a lunatic.

Has anybody ever read 'State of Fear' by Michael Crighton? It has some very sharp things to say about the religion of environmentalism.
isnt he one of those conspiracy theorists?

Everyone do a search for: Faker than Hollywood

This guy sounds very similar to that guys arguements...

Example:
Siesatia, you write like a human that believes he is part alien nephilim. I hate scum sucking nephilim aliens and humans that pretend like they are nephilim alien are little better. Of course... maybe you really are part monkey, or cow, or crocadile ! Maybe we should BBQ you on exotic dinner night ! Maybe you are part meteorite ! We should put you in a rock show ! What does your family photo album look like? Probably looks like a cross bewteen a rock show and the zoo ! What is your mother--meteorite or monkey ? HA HA HA !

isnt he one of those conspiracy theorists?
Actually, he's one of the greatest Techno-Thriller writers of all time. He wrote Jurassic Park, and is a litarary genius.

yes because we cant conceive impossible things

You remind me of a kid I know. He reminds me of a squirrel. Therefore, I shal now refer to you as "Squirrel #2" Be proud, for few achieve this status.

Legendary thread. Really. It needs to be honoured in the archives.

I'm sad I didn't catch it earlier.

Skapedroe...did you take drugs recently?

recently and frequently.

Wait.....my sarcasm detector isn't working.....I hope

either that, or you are batshit insane.

Mind telling us where you found that tidbit of wisdom?
its common knowledge in certain quarters

its common knowledge in certain quarters
Among those who are batshit insane, I'm sure it is!! :D

if I put alot of sun lamps closer and closer to your body would you move yes or no?

If I were the earth? No, because, sunlamps would have no impact upon me. Neither would the relatively low amount of solar radiation that impacts the crust. The solar radiation is significantly less than my core temperature.

Relativity is a bitch, isn't it Skape?

Myrth the FAKE censor...

Cut right to the CHASE, dude ! Skip that knee-wobbling FORMAL WARNING PHASE ! Show your censor stuff ! What can you do ? Be a control freak censor controlling fake message boards ? HA HA HA !!! You're probably nephilim alien scum or think you are. You probably believe in evolution, too. How about your mama-- part meteroite or monkey ? Family photo album look like a rock show or the zoo ? HA HA HA !

Very well.



7 day forum ban. If you can come back and behave, I won't have your nation deleted.

The guy was never seen again...

After reading all the posts in this thread, I've decided that I want to defend Skapedroe's position. However, until tommorow's broadcast of the national news, Dan Rather and Peter Jennings won't speak to me through the TV to tell me how. So until then, I'll just have to say Skapedroe is correct and point to his proof of the giant crystal beams that Bush's ancestors sent to the earth's core.

BWWHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA!!

The guy was never seen again...
*Quivering in fear* Twilight Zone theme plays ...

its common knowledge in certain quarters

what quarters? Are they in NYC? If so, I'd like to go there.

Come on, dude, point me in the right direction.

This is *so* going in my Signature
the truth is first met with mockery and derision which later turns to rage-then it gets accepted as common knowledge--in a few posts according to my formula we should start seeing some rage because thru our anger we can see the truth

After reading all the posts in this thread, I've decided that I want to defend Skapedroe's position. However, until tommorow's broadcast of the national news, Dan Rather and Peter Jennings won't speak to me through the TV to tell me how. So until then, I'll just have to say Skapedroe is correct and point to his proof of the giant crystal beams that Bush's ancestors sent to the earth's core.

BWWHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA!!
Don't be sarcastic, it's true. Documented by Dan Rather, who obtained his documents from an unimpeachable source somewhere in Texas ...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

the truth is first met with mockery and derision which later turns to rage-then it gets accepted as common knowledge--in a few posts according to my formula we should start seeing some rage because thru our anger we can see the truth
Does that mean your going to start flaming next?

This has to be MKULTRA. I've never seen anybody else ever stand so bravely in the path of a gigantic, blistering laser beam of FACTS and declare that lies are the truth.

I love this. Somehow, it's President Bush's fault that the tectonic plates collided. Earthquakes happen. Get over it. Forty years ago, a massive Earthquake shook Alaska. Natural Disasters like Earthquakes, Typhoons, and Tsunami's are just that: They're natural.

I'm sorry I didn't see this thread earlier, because I had the time of my life reading through Skapedroe's Circular Logic.

~Terra~

The theory is that the earth and gaia have the same relationship you have with your house (or rather your parents' house)

If I break the front door, you don't feel it. You are alive, not the house.
you wouldnt say that if you ever stood in the ruins of what was once a house

This has to be MKULTRA. I've never seen anybody else ever stand so bravely in the path of a gigantic, blistering laser beam of FACTS and declare that lies are the truth.

I love this. Somehow, it's President Bush's fault that the tectonic plates collided. Earthquakes happen. Get over it. Forty years ago, a massive Earthquake shook Alaska. Natural Disasters like Earthquakes, Typhoons, and Tsunami's are just that: They're natural.

I'm sorry I didn't see this thread earlier, because I had the time of my life reading through Skapedroe's Circular Logic.

~Terra~
Actually, I'm fairly sure that this is a troll...

My dad worked in construction for a few decades and raised me and my brothers doing that. I have stood in the ruins of houses.

They aren't alive and never were.

Skrapedoe, does the planet have a soul? Or feelings? If I call it a bad name, will it hurt its feelings and make it cry? :D
(I know your making fun of me) but I will only say this much-wouldnt you?

(I know your making fun of me) but I will only say this much-wouldnt you?

No, but I'm not the over sensitive PMSing bitch Mother Earth appears to be.

No, emotions are reactions to stimuli.



I don't need to be angry to know you're nuts.
I already addressed the relativity of sanity under my prior nations

I already addressed the relativity of sanity under my prior nations


And what would those prior nations be?

The planet is composed of more than the Ecosphere..... The ecosphere is the inter-relation of living creatures, and their cursory self-formed enviroment (high oxygenated atmosphere, etc.) The Planet itself is merely the residence of the ecosphere, and while the ecosphere is dependent upon the planet, the planet is not dependent upon the ecosphere; and exists regardless of the presence of the ecosphere.

However, in honor of George Carlin, to expand the Gaia hyposthesis!
that kinda makes us sound like slaves

Hey Mkultra!

Much as I dislike the shrub, you will have a hard time linking him to plate tectonic movement.
tra has been smoking way to much rope recently

I don't hear a damn thing. :mad:
cause your not listening with your heart

Wait, my heart has ears now? Wow, I mean, I never knew that was possible, maybe I'm an alien or something

No, it wouldn't.

The average temperature of the earth's atmosphere is about several thousand degrees less than the core. The temperature diferential, due to global warming is decreasing (minutely in comparison). "Coolings" and "Warming" are relative terms, complete disconnected from one another.

About the only time the suns radiation would play an impact in earth's techtonic activity, will be when she has almost exhausted her hydrogen supply in about 5 billion years from now, and expands into a red-giant; puting the earth extreme close to (if not engulfed by) the sun.
are you saying the sun is gonna assimilate us at some point?

I like your new one too Foxx :D...
What the fuck it that suppose to mean?

Nope, it will envelope and obliterate us and use the resources for burning.

While this is an important problem...who the f\/ck gives a skit about Tuvalu? not many people. I doubt they'll get very far in suing...who will be their lawyers? fish?
I care about them even tho I just found out they existed just as theyre becoming extincted by Bushs policies

I care about them even tho I just found out they existed just as theyre becoming extincted by Bushs policies
Extincted is not a word

I got three words for them: Learn To Swim

And what would those prior nations be?
you keep saying it all thru the thread

are you saying the sun is gonna assimilate us at some point?

Assimilate would not be absolutely appropriate, dis-integrate would be more appropriate... As the planet would be torn apart by the tidal forces long before the surface of the planet would contact the solar plasma. Basically all the worse parts of the bible.

Assimilate would not be absolutely appropriate, dis-integrate would be more appropriate... As the planet would be torn apart by the tidal forces long before the surface of the planet would contact the solar plasma. Basically all the worse parts of the bible.

Gaia is gonna be pissed to learn about this. :)

My dad worked in construction for a few decades and raised me and my brothers doing that. I have stood in the ruins of houses.

They aren't alive and never were.
but they werent your houses

tra has been smoking way to much rope recently
:D :D :D happy new year

but they werent your houses

That doesn't change the fact that they were not, are not, and never will be alive. My friend's shoe is not mine, but that doesn't make it alive, does it?

When we got to them, they weren't anybody's houses.

Even when we finished building them back up, they weren't alive.

Wait, my heart has ears now? Wow, I mean, I never knew that was possible, maybe I'm an alien or something
everytime you think all you see is bodys

What?

...
What the fuck it that suppose to mean?
you were deat as much as I was ;)

I got three words for them: Learn To Swim

your own thinking? WOW :rolleyes:

Extincted is not a word
of course it is --it means becoming extinct in the past tense

Gaia is gonna be pissed to learn about this. :)

We have roughly 4-5 billion years, we may escape.... If not... don't worry... You won't see that part of it, as the levels of solar radiation increase as the sun starts trying to fuse helium and other heavier elements increases, will kill us all off long before we get to see everything we've known through our entire civilization ripped apart by massive solar tidal forces, and blasted outwards into space as the outer layers of the sun are shed, and the remnants of the planet are bombarded with raw solar plasma.... Everything ends..... that's the only fact of life.

That doesn't change the fact that they were not, are not, and never will be alive. My friend's shoe is not mine, but that doesn't make it alive, does it?
you never once walked into your house at nite and looked back at and saw your car staring back at you with a certain longingness ?

Tekania, you're depressing me now.

Wait a minute, I just watched an old episode on video of "Bill Nye, The Science Guy" and I understand - Global warming has caused an excess amount of the polar ice caps to melt dumping huge amounts of water into the oceans. The added weight/mass of the extra water placed pressure on the tetonic plates that they could not bear and so they shifted in order to carry the additional mass causing the Tsunami. If we had agreed to the Kyoto accords this would not have taken place since it is only the excess greenhouse gases produced in the last 3 years that caused this excess melting at the polar ice caps.

Damn, didn't need Dan Rather to explain it at all. :)

I'll quote the NY Post's review of State of Fear:



Crichton's heroic skeptics delight in noting things like the decline of global temperature from 1940 to 1970. And that since 1970 glaciers in Iceland have been advancing. And that Antarctica is getting colder and its ice is getting thicker.

Last week Fiona Harvey, the Financial Times' environmental correspondent, fresh from yet another international confabulation on climate change, wrote that although the Earth's cloud cover "is thought" to have increased recently, no one knows whether this is good or bad. Is the heat-trapping by the clouds' water vapor greater or less than the sun's heat reflected back off the clouds into space?

Climate-change forecasts, Harvey writes, are like financial forecasts but involve a vastly more complex array of variables. The climate forecasts, based on computer models analyzing the past, tell us that we do not know how much warming is occurring, whether it is a transitory episode, or how much warming is dangerous — or perhaps beneficial.

One of the good guys in "State of Fear" cites Montaigne's axiom: "Nothing is so firmly believed as that which least is known." Which is why 30 years ago the fashionable panic was about global cooling.

The New York Times (Aug. 14, 1975) saw "many signs" that "Earth may be heading for another ice age." Science magazine (Dec. 10, 1976) warned about "extensive Northern Hemisphere glaciation." "Continued rapid cooling of the Earth" (Global Ecology, 1971) could herald "a full-blown 10,000 year ice age" (Science, March 1, 1975). The Christian Science Monitor reported (Aug. 27, 1974) that Nebraska's armadillos were retreating south from the cooling.

Last week The Washington Post reported that global warming has caused a decline in Alaska's porcupine caribou herd and has lured the golden orange prothonotary warbler back from southern wintering grounds to Richmond, Va., a day earlier for nearly two decades. Or since global cooling stopped. Maybe.

you never once walked into your house at nite and looked back at and saw your car staring back at you with a certain longingness ?


For some odd reson, I'm thinking about Richard pryor's joke about his Magnum and his car right now.

I don't know if this is TRA/MKULTRA reincarnated. I mean, MKULTRA was a bit loony, but he wasn't completely insane. And I don't recall him ever being this dodgy on answers. Nor is TRA this...well, stupid. What if...
Wait a minute! Who stole my Political Thought Reversal machine and shot Defensor Fidei with it?!?!

This is far too amusing for it to end.

We have roughly 4-5 billion years, we may escape.... If not... don't worry... You won't see that part of it, as the levels of solar radiation increase as the sun starts trying to fuse helium and other heavier elements increases, will kill us all off long before we get to see everything we've known through our entire civilization ripped apart by massive solar tidal forces, and blasted outwards into space as the outer layers of the sun are shed, and the remnants of the planet are bombarded with raw solar plasma.... Everything ends..... that's the only fact of life.
everything changes but it never ends

everything changes but it never ends

No, even change ends.... Thermodynamic armageddon is all of our constituent parts fate.

No, even change ends.... Thermodynamic armageddon is all of our constituent parts fate.
Hooray heat death. Lookin' forward to a lukewarm Universe. ;)

No, even change ends.... Thermodynamic armageddon is all of our constituent parts fate.
Heat Lives

Wait a minute, I just watched an old episode on video of "Bill Nye, The Science Guy" and I understand - Global warming has caused an excess amount of the polar ice caps to melt dumping huge amounts of water into the oceans. The added weight/mass of the extra water placed pressure on the tetonic plates that they could not bear and so they shifted in order to carry the additional mass causing the Tsunami. If we had agreed to the Kyoto accords this would not have taken place since it is only the excess greenhouse gases produced in the last 3 years that caused this excess melting at the polar ice caps.

Damn, didn't need Dan Rather to explain it at all. :)

No extra water, no added weight mass.... mass is consistent, merely change in form. No matter was created in order to increase global mass. There's not enough water on earth to create enough ice to displace the crust floating on a basaltic, heavier mantle.

I'd be more concerned with the enviromental impact of the increased radiation on the biosphere from the weaking of the magnetic field of the pending magnetic shift, than global warming....

Heat Lives

Heat is only a measurement of dynamic energy. At thermodynamic armegeddon, energy will no longer be dynamic, everything will be potential. The universe will be Thermodynamically and actively dead in a state of perfect thermal equilibrium.

No extra water, no added weight mass.... mass is consistent, merely change in form. No matter was created in order to increase global mass. There's not enough water on earth to create enough ice to displace the crust floating on a basaltic, heavier mantle.

I'd be more concerned with the enviromental impact of the increased radiation on the biosphere from the weaking of the magnetic field of the pending magnetic shift, than global warming....

Yeah, but it makes more sense than Skapedroe's reasoning on the issue. :D

This thread has gone 200 plus posts....I think we have waaaay too much time on our hands ( yes me too, I've been lurking in this thread ).

Skapedroe is not that humerous...

This thread has gone 200 plus posts....I think we have waaaay too much time on our hands ( yes me too, I've been lurking in this thread ).

Skapedroe is not that humerous...
sometimes he is, though i think he is taking the tragedy in south asia way to lightly in making these rather silly threads.



...oh what am i saying, i'm defending uncle joe and the force collectivization for giggles, who am i to judge.;)

Assimilate would not be absolutely appropriate, dis-integrate would be more appropriate... As the planet would be torn apart by the tidal forces long before the surface of the planet would contact the solar plasma. Basically all the worse parts of the bible.
Gravatic forces do not change as the sun expands. Rather, the atmosphere would be stripped from the planet because of the solar winds. If the sun were to collapse into a neutron star today our planet would keep the same orbit, it would just freeze.

*The Island is prepared to sue Bush for persuing global warming policys that threaten its very existence--in light of all the tidal waves Bushs anti environmental policys are causing on a global scale the other nations of the world must apply sanctions to the US until Bush stops obstructing the fight against the planets survival

The Pacifica island nation of Tuvalu stands just 13 feet about the sea level at its highest point. It faces oblivion if global warming causes the sea to rise.
While the island was not affected by the tsunami, residents say routine flooding regularly into the middle of the island, destroying food crops and trees which have been there for decades.

Two years ago the government announced they might sue the United States and Australia because they have rejected the Kyoto protocol on global warming.
democracynow.org
Hahahahahahahahahaha *sigh*

you never once walked into your house at nite and looked back at and saw your car staring back at you with a certain longingness ?

Now c'mon folks, if this isn't enough to convince you that Skap is an Evil Clown (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriors/Evil%20Clown.011.php) then nothing is. I fell for Whittier, but I ain't fallin for this here troll.

*Kicks the ground*

Planet: "OUCH! YOU BASTARD!!!!!"

:p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/GMCMA/Other%20stuff/Hein.jpg

'So if I take a gun, and fire it at the Earth, I'm not just making a hole in the ground...I'm killing the planet?'

Back to the original topic, this has nothing to do with the recent tsunami (not sure if this has been said but that was the attitude on the first two pages). Tuvalu is in the pacific, not Indian ocean. Tuvalu is sinking, and has been doing so for the past decade. The island will be underwater in a few years, and it is global warming that is to blame.

I call gaia "Tiamat," because that was her REAL name before we came along.the planet will talk to us if we would only listen
I listen. :)

Once, when I was lying on the couch looking out the window, I was thinking about something (wondering if I will ever find "The One"), I saw a cloud take the shape of a heart. Instinctively, I knew that that was Mother Tiamat talking to me, saying that I will find The One in time.
No, but I'm not the over sensitive PMSing bitch Mother Earth appears to be.
I used to think that Tiamat was PMSing, but realized, there's no way in hell a planet can go PMSin. Tiamat is far too smart to "misbehave." (EDIT: Plus, it concerns me when you start calling an ENTIRE PLANET a "bitch.")
Gaia is gonna be pissed to learn about this. :)
Dude, she's known about it since birth.
Wait a minute, I just watched an old episode on video of "Bill Nye, The Science Guy" and I understand - Global warming has caused an excess amount of the polar ice caps to melt dumping huge amounts of water into the oceans. The added weight/mass of the extra water placed pressure on the tetonic plates that they could not bear and so they shifted in order to carry the additional mass causing the Tsunami. If we had agreed to the Kyoto accords this would not have taken place since it is only the excess greenhouse gases produced in the last 3 years that caused this excess melting at the polar ice caps.
That's it! Proof that Bush DID cause the quake! :gundge: (EDIT: Indirectly, that is. ;))
<snip>
'So if I take a gun, and fire it at the Earth, I'm not just making a hole in the ground...I'm killing the planet?'
Not really, but you may lose a few friends and/or relatives in a severe weather "accident." :D

the planet will talk to us if we would only listen

Ya, Earth hit me up for a loan this morning...

theres no evidence that global warming doesnt cause earthquakes

It is worth noting that saying there is no evidence that something doesn't cause something else is both poor scientific method and lousy debate method.

You must show that a train of events caused an outcome, if you wish others to take your hypothesis seriously.

i cant see how they would win a suit agenst the us there is no scintific proof of globle warming in fact we are still just exiting the last ice age, its a cycle and in time when we start to enter the next ice age (if the race survives til that piont) some would say that we cut back to much on green house gasses when we stoped forest fires and the such, if that little island wants to be all about protecting an envierment that can protect it self let them.

i cant see how they would win a suit agenst the us there is no scintific proof of globle warming in fact we are still just exiting the last ice age, its a cycle and in time when we start to enter the next ice age (if the race survives til that piont) some would say that we cut back to much on green house gasses when we stoped forest fires and the such, if that little island wants to be all about protecting an envierment that can protect it self let them.

While the Bush administration may say that there is no scientific proof of global warming, many scientist say there is. The island could easily find expert witness in this lawsuit.

(I know your making fun of me) but I will only say this much-wouldnt you?

dude.......if the earth was alive she would have snuffed us out long ago

how do we know he didnt?
The burden of proof is on the accuser. If you accuse bush's policies of causing the tsunami, you must show a link between bush's policies in the past 4 years and increased global warming, then you must show that global warming can cause earthquakes. The first part may be possible, the second is probably impossible.

how do we know he didnt?
Global warming is a joke, it is shabby science proven wrong. Go back to your bottle.

I'll quote the NY Post's review of State of Fear:



Crichton's heroic skeptics delight in noting things like the decline of global temperature from 1940 to 1970. And that since 1970 glaciers in Iceland have been advancing. And that Antarctica is getting colder and its ice is getting thicker.

Last week Fiona Harvey, the Financial Times' environmental correspondent, fresh from yet another international confabulation on climate change, wrote that although the Earth's cloud cover "is thought" to have increased recently, no one knows whether this is good or bad. Is the heat-trapping by the clouds' water vapor greater or less than the sun's heat reflected back off the clouds into space?

Climate-change forecasts, Harvey writes, are like financial forecasts but involve a vastly more complex array of variables. The climate forecasts, based on computer models analyzing the past, tell us that we do not know how much warming is occurring, whether it is a transitory episode, or how much warming is dangerous — or perhaps beneficial.

One of the good guys in "State of Fear" cites Montaigne's axiom: "Nothing is so firmly believed as that which least is known." Which is why 30 years ago the fashionable panic was about global cooling.

The New York Times (Aug. 14, 1975) saw "many signs" that "Earth may be heading for another ice age." Science magazine (Dec. 10, 1976) warned about "extensive Northern Hemisphere glaciation." "Continued rapid cooling of the Earth" (Global Ecology, 1971) could herald "a full-blown 10,000 year ice age" (Science, March 1, 1975). The Christian Science Monitor reported (Aug. 27, 1974) that Nebraska's armadillos were retreating south from the cooling.

Last week The Washington Post reported that global warming has caused a decline in Alaska's porcupine caribou herd and has lured the golden orange prothonotary warbler back from southern wintering grounds to Richmond, Va., a day earlier for nearly two decades. Or since global cooling stopped. Maybe.

Nobody cares?

Global warming is a joke, it is shabby science proven wrong. Go back to your bottle.

Global warming is no joke. However, the idea that it could cause an earthquake is pretty dumb. Pretty dumb indeed.

Global warming is no joke. However, the idea that it could cause an earthquake is pretty dumb. Pretty dumb indeed.

But "global warming" is happening after the massive "gobal cooling" from 1950-1970s. So, isn't it just coming back to a normal temperature.

Read the article I posted.

of course it is --it means becoming extinct in the past tense

I just looked it up, it is a word, however, It refers to 'Becoming Extinct' not 'Became Extinct' You see, its present tense, not past.

In my geology class 10 years ago I was taught that the Earth is still not fully out of the last Ice Age...could that be helping also.

Besides, I think we should get mad at the real problem here. Those damn volcanos just shoot greenhouse gases into the air at alarming rates. Let's plug them up

iT was not bUshes fault. It was my fault. I sprayed those gasses into the air with cleaning martierl and exhuast fuel. Muhahaha. SEE WHAT ID DID TO INDIA??? I CAN DO IT TO THE U.S, TOO. Just give me a couple more years.

OMG this thread hasn't been locked!!

OMG this thread hasn't been locked!!

*carefully studies thread*

Yep, I'd say it hasn't been locked yet.

It is worth noting that saying there is no evidence that something doesn't cause something else is both poor scientific method and lousy debate method.

You must show that a train of events caused an outcome, if you wish others to take your hypothesis seriously.
but that doesnt always work since alot of time that which is being tested will conform itself to our expectations

dude.......if the earth was alive she would have snuffed us out long ago
not true--as someone posted earlier she may have needed us to make plastic