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Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 00:23
No, no, we didn't steal it. It was impossed on us. And we don't call ourselves hispanic. It's the people in the US who call us hispanic. We call ourselves Americans or Americanos, if you want to be more precise.
No "Latino" grammys for you?

According to the current U.S. census system, Usama bin Laden is white while Cameron Diaz is not ("Hispanic.")

And the Spanish language has been doing quite well with the corruption and all, thank you very much. In fact, I bet you use at least a couple of Aztec words yourself.
Such as?
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2004, 00:41
According to the current U.S. census system, Usama bin Laden is white while Cameron Diaz is not ("Hispanic.")


The relevance of this is what exactly, seeing as how the US census bureau doesn't define hispanic as a matter of race, but rather self-identifying origin?
OceanDrive
19-12-2004, 00:47
Why would you want to call your self american when you can call your
self mexican. I call myself finnish not european or skandinavian.You may wanna call yourself Finnish or whatever...You are still Finish,Skandinavian AND European.

And they are still Alaskan AND American, or Colombian AND American, or Hawaian and American.
Los Banditos
19-12-2004, 00:56
Hmm, first you think that all the others here are Canadian
Then you admit that your best is a insult without any knowledge.(But we allready knew that without your own confirmation.)

You know, I would'nt be surprised to see a swastika tatoo on your arse.
You see, that was me being ironic.
Karas
19-12-2004, 00:59
I don't think it was he who actually labeled the map thusly, that was (according to generally accepted history) the German cartographer Martin Waldseemüller.

Amerigo was the cartographer who decided that there was an entire Continent over where Columbus landed. Everyone else just assumed Cloumbus has landed on an uncharted island somewhere in the vicinity of India.

Incidently, Amerigo didn't name the continent America. The Americas were given that name when everyone figured out that he wasn't crazy after all.
Iztatepopotla
19-12-2004, 01:08
No "Latino" grammys for you?

Nop. "Latino", "Hispanic", "Latinamerica" and similar terms were invented by white people in the US during the XIX century to differentiate the people who spoke Spanish, white or non-white, who were also from America (the continent and the country). This from the fear of not being able to classify all people in neat little boxes.

If you go outside the USA you don't see those terms used until late in the XX century, thanks to a process of aculturation. The same thing happens with "Americas" to designate the continent. It wasn't in use until perhaps 10 or so years ago.

In any event, it's not a denomination we came up with. You invented it and have been impossing it on us through an acculturation process.


According to the current U.S. census system, Usama bin Laden is white while Cameron Diaz is not ("Hispanic.")


And what does that mean? That's simply how the US government sees people, not how people see themselves. It doesn't even have anything to do with us. Talk to your stupid government to change it, if it bothers you so much.


Such as?

Just from the top of my head: tomato, chocolate, cacao, cocoa, avocado, coyote, chili, mustang (although this one comes not from Aztec but another language from Northern Mexico). Spanish has many more, of course.
Los Banditos
19-12-2004, 01:12
Nop. "Latino", "Hispanic", "Latinamerica" and similar terms were invented by white people in the US during the XIX century to differentiate the people who spoke Spanish, white or non-white, who were also from America (the continent and the country). This from the fear of not being able to classify all people in neat little boxes.

If you go outside the USA you don't see those terms used until late in the XX century, thanks to a process of aculturation. The same thing happens with "Americas" to designate the continent. It wasn't in use until perhaps 10 or so years ago.

In any event, it's not a denomination we came up with. You invented it and have been impossing it on us through an acculturation process.
To be fair, the South Americans who moved into the US use the terms Latino and Hispanic with pride. They would rather be called that than Spanish. And, a new word had to be thought up to describe the race that was created.
Iztatepopotla
19-12-2004, 01:20
To be fair, the South Americans who moved into the US use the terms Latino and Hispanic with pride. They would rather be called that than Spanish. And, a new word had to be thought up to describe the race that was created.
The thing is that no new race was created, hardly everybody from Texas to Patagonia is the same. And there is no reason not to use the term with pride if you identify with it. It's just that DF considers the term inadequate (which it is) and puts the blame of it on us (where it shouldn't be).

I don't think there was a need for a new name, anyway. Argentinian, Colombian or Venezuelan would work quite nicely to define the origins of people. The problem was the ridiculous US census trying to make boxes for everybody. The first attempt at unity amongst all our countries was called Congreso Americano (1820s), so Americano would have worked as well.
Ratpatoot
19-12-2004, 01:34
America is the most racist and oppressive nation in the world. That's why everyone in the world wants to move there.
OceanDrive
19-12-2004, 02:03
Oh so you think you should have the same rights here as legal citizens have
is that right? I don't think so!
here...in Columbia?
Zeppistan
19-12-2004, 02:23
No external reasons? Who called it America? Who actually came up with the term "Americans"?

What would you call a people who live in a country called the United States of America? American is the easy noun/adjective that comes to mind.

The fact that continent was designated America did not neccessitate the founding fathers calling the new nation "Th United States of America". That was a conscious decision made, as was the decision to refer to oneself as Americans. After all, the British colonies to the north of you were never so designated despite residing on the same continent. Up until then, it was more common for colonials in the southern states to refer to themselves by the state itself. One finds many references to people refering to themselves (or being refered to) as Virginians for example.

Now, once again, if the founding fathers had decided on a different name for the new political entity, then you would not still be likely to be being called Americans.

For example, if under the circumstances, they had decided on The United States of 'Fuck the Brits', then we might well imagine what nickname would have stuck...

:p
New Granada
19-12-2004, 03:03
I would have to say that american means "A citizen of the United States of America" and not a "person living in north or south america."

The words "north american" and "south american" refer to people who live on those continents.

Recall that like europe and asia, north and south america are seperate continents.

"Eurasian" is not commonly used to refer to "a person living in europe or asia," and "american" is given special consideration because it refers specifically to citizens of a certain country.

Another comparison would be calling scottish citizens "britons" because they live on the british isles.

Lastly, north and south america are as different as europe and asia, so the difference obscured by using 'american' to refer to people from both places is not trivial.


And thats my Amateur Lexicographical Analysis for 'ya.
New Granada
19-12-2004, 03:05
America is the most racist and oppressive nation in the world. That's why everyone in the world wants to move there.


They want to move here because we have so much money and demand for illegal and immigrant labor that the lowest strata of society enjoys relatively high material wellbeing.

Almost as good as that in northern europe or canada.
Vargassia
19-12-2004, 03:42
Seeing as there's so many topics that seem to start with someone yelling Americans! Do this do that ect. I was wondering what a American really is. Can you define one to me?


Someone, who can't even phrase such a simple question, without making several orthographical, grammatical and syntactical mistakes.

I'll rephrase that for you: They are stupid. Duh.
Los Banditos
19-12-2004, 04:31
The fact that continent was designated America did not neccessitate the founding fathers calling the new nation "Th United States of America". That was a conscious decision made, as was the decision to refer to oneself as Americans. After all, the British colonies to the north of you were never so designated despite residing on the same continent. Up until then, it was more common for colonials in the southern states to refer to themselves by the state itself. One finds many references to people refering to themselves (or being refered to) as Virginians for example.

Now, once again, if the founding fathers had decided on a different name for the new political entity, then you would not still be likely to be being called Americans.

For example, if under the circumstances, they had decided on The United States of 'Fuck the Brits', then we might well imagine what nickname would have stuck...

:p
Before the US was founded, the 13 colonies were reffered to as the American colonies and the citizens were called Americans.

Yes, if the country was not called the United States of America it there would be different nicknames for the citizens. But seeing as that is the name, it is a logical choice. :)
New Genoa
19-12-2004, 04:35
Someone, who can't even phrase such a simple question, without making several orthographical, grammatical and syntactical mistakes.

I'll rephrase that for you: They are stupid. Duh.

Ah, grammar defines intelligence and intelligence defines character. Thanks for clearing that up for me and may you live in peace in your elitist society.
Demented Hamsters
19-12-2004, 05:38
Seeing as there's so many topics that seem to start with someone yelling Americans! Do this do that ect. I was wondering what a American really is. Can you define one to me?
Define an American?
Easy:

Michael Moore

Look at him - He's grossly overweight. He's waddling his way towards a coronary. He dresses like a slob. He's opinionated. He feels the need to impress his views onto everyone. He thinks anyone who disagrees with his opinions must be stupid or ignorant.

What better example of an American can you get?
Damaica
19-12-2004, 08:50
Define an American?
Easy:

Michael Moore

Look at him - He's grossly overweight. He's waddling his way towards a coronary. He dresses like a slob. He's opinionated. He feels the need to impress his views onto everyone. He thinks anyone who disagrees with his opinions must be stupid or ignorant.

What better example of an American can you get?

Moore is an American. He's comparable to the Saudi bin Laden. Both think they speak for their countries.
Tha Imperial Republic
19-12-2004, 09:49
An American is a person living in or a citizen of the greatest nation on Earth, the United States of America. Of course my opinion could be a bit biased considering where i live. Let's see if your smart enough to figure out where that is.
Armored Ear
19-12-2004, 09:50
america is coo, foo
Ratpatoot
19-12-2004, 09:55
Great quote from Christopher Hitchens....

"But speaking here in my capacity as a polished, sophisticated European as well, it seems to me the laugh here is on the polished, sophisticated Europeans. They think Americans are fat, vulgar, greedy, stupid, ambitious and ignorant and so on. And they've taken as their own, as their representative American, someone who actually embodies all of those qualities." - Christopher Hitchens On Michael Moore
Chinkopodia
19-12-2004, 09:57
An American is a person living in or a citizen of the greatest nation on Earth, the United States of America. Of course my opinion could be a bit biased considering where i live. Let's see if your smart enough to figure out where that is.

The United States of America....[/monotone_voice]

BTW, are you saying we're NOT smart? If so.....

Let's see if your smart :rolleyes:
Pennterra
19-12-2004, 10:35
Literal interpretation: A person born in the United States of America

Worlds interpretation: Fat ketchup and burger obsessed Christian fundamentalist waving around an American flag while completely disregarding the ideals America once held dear.

My interpretation: See above
Chinkopodia
19-12-2004, 10:46
No, that's the stereotype interpretation. :rolleyes:
Cheeto Eaters
19-12-2004, 11:23
Europe sucks :p
Armored Ear
19-12-2004, 11:25
the french and all french-speaking women can bite my ass.
Bucksnort
19-12-2004, 16:07
...and Amerigo Vespucci did not "discover America" (we could have whole converstions on that phrase). In fact it is possible that this Italian mapmaker never even traveled to the continents that took his name. How do we end up getting named after him? He was the guy who made and labeled the map.

Never said he discovered America. Just that america was named for him.

As far as I know, the earliest documented "discovery" of America was Leif Ericson.
Bucksnort
19-12-2004, 16:16
The fact that continent was designated America did not neccessitate the founding fathers calling the new nation "Th United States of America". That was a conscious decision made, as was the decision to refer to oneself as Americans. After all, the British colonies to the north of you were never so designated despite residing on the same continent. Up until then, it was more common for colonials in the southern states to refer to themselves by the state itself. One finds many references to people refering to themselves (or being refered to) as Virginians for example.

Now, once again, if the founding fathers had decided on a different name for the new political entity, then you would not still be likely to be being called Americans.

For example, if under the circumstances, they had decided on The United States of 'Fuck the Brits', then we might well imagine what nickname would have stuck...

:p

The United States of Fuck The Brits?? ROTFLMFAOPMP!!!
Bucksnort
19-12-2004, 16:25
Europe sucks :p
No, these days, Europe is better than the United states. And I'm an American saying this. Their currency is on the rise, ours on the fall. Their civil rights and tolerance are moving forward, ours...backward.

And lest we AMERICANS forget...most of us ARE Europeans by descent. Example, I am Welsh-Italian.

MOST of us Americans either emigrated here from Europe...or are descended from those who did.

Interesting tidbit: What is now the State of Georgia was once a penal colony of England. Prisoners were given a choice to rot in prison in England...or be shipped to Georgia and set free. Therefore, if your roots are from Georgia...chances are good you are descended from an ex-con.
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 16:43
America: Land of the greatest athletes, most Nobel Prize winners, great universities, best pornography, most attractive women, best space program, best film industry, and most free people.
Conceptualists
19-12-2004, 17:10
America: best film industry, and most free people.
Care to qualify those statments?
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 17:23
Care to qualify those statments?


Yes if I may, Team America:World Police, Deep Throat, Behind the Green Door, Gone With the Wind.

We in the States are the most free as we do as we please as long as it is legal and does not hurt others. Now you may say that Europe is more free, but you'd be wrong. If a nation has a national healthcare program (and where you pay taxes for said system) those people are slaves to the system for their health needs. In America it is up to you to decide for yourself what to do with yourself in regards to healthcare. Also last time I checked "Hate Speech" is not really approved of in Europe and Canada, as you can get into some serious trouble for saying things that aren't nice to certain groups. Heck in Canada the Bible could be considered a hate document. In America you have the right to say whatever you want so long as you don't incite a riot or call for someones death. Plus Europe wants to censor the internet.
Von Witzleben
19-12-2004, 17:34
...and Amerigo Vespucci did not "discover America" (we could have whole converstions on that phrase). In fact it is possible that this Italian mapmaker never even traveled to the continents that took his name. How do we end up getting named after him? He was the guy who made and labeled the map.
No he wasn't. The German mapmaker Martin Waldseemüller was the first to call the new world "America" after Vespucci. Who discovered that the America's weren't India but an entirely new "world".
Oh, and Vespucci did travel to the America's.
Out On A Limb
19-12-2004, 17:40
Arrogence. The first Americans were the native Americans.

I agree that the people we now call Native Americans were there with solid sucessful countries first.

They weren't "Americans" though, because they hadn't met Amerigo Vasvucchi yet. (maybe I'm spelling his name wrong... explorer, pre Chistopher Columbus)...
Out On A Limb
19-12-2004, 17:48
Great quote from Christopher Hitchens....

"But speaking here in my capacity as a polished, sophisticated European as well, it seems to me the laugh here is on the polished, sophisticated Europeans. They think Americans are fat, vulgar, greedy, stupid, ambitious and ignorant and so on. And they've taken as their own, as their representative American, someone who actually embodies all of those qualities." - Christopher Hitchens On Michael Moore

lol...wow, that's perfect!
(and no, that does not mean I voted for George Bush.)
Perisa
19-12-2004, 17:50
Europe wants to censor the internet?

Isn't that kind like how some Americans want to censor books?
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 17:52
Europe wants to censor the internet?

Isn't that kind like how some Americans want to censor books?

The EU wants to control hate sites and pornography to protect the kids. People in America may want to ban certain books, but the government doesn't ban books unless they tell you how to kill someone, make bombs, etc.
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 17:52
The EU wants to control hate sites and pornography to protect the kids. People in America may want to ban certain books, but the government doesn't ban books unless they tell you how to kill someone, make bombs, etc.
The "EU" wants to silence its opposition, through deceit and manipulation.
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 17:57
The "EU" wants to silence its opposition, through deceit and manipulation.

In America you are entitled to your opinion.

Try this exercise: Go to a street corner in NYC, get up on a milk crate and start giving a speech condemning homosexuals, saying how evil they are, how they will burn in Hell. Now go to Montreal, London, Paris, etc. See what happens to you in those cities compared to NYC. Sure the NYC cop might tell you to move along as you are crowding a public walkway, but he won't arrest you for inciting hatred.
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 18:05
In America you are entitled to your opinion.

Try this exercise: Go to a street corner in NYC, get up on a milk crate and start giving a speech condemning homosexuals, saying how evil they are, how they will burn in Hell. Now go to Montreal, London, Paris, etc. See what happens to you in those cities compared to NYC. Sure the NYC cop might tell you to move along as you are crowding a public walkway, but he won't arrest you for inciting hatred.
It's illegal to sit or stand on a milk crate in New York City.
Queensville
19-12-2004, 18:13
It's illegal to sit or stand on a milk crate in New York City.

really?
or do you mean.....and give a speech?
Defensor Fidei
19-12-2004, 18:18
really?
or do you mean.....and give a speech?
No, part of Jew Mayor Bloomberg's Operation Impact, a so-called "quality of life campaign," prohibits sitting on a milk crate, punishable by fines.
Doom777
19-12-2004, 18:23
Seeing as there's so many topics that seem to start with someone yelling Americans! Do this do that ect. I was wondering what a American really is. Can you define one to me?
An American is someone who LEGALLY lives in the United States.
Stabbatha
19-12-2004, 18:56
I'm responding to something like half-way through this post probably but all I can say is that Canada most certainly does NOT owe its democracy to the US...

We decided we wanted democracy and we did it (relatively) peacefully, without needless blood shed at that. Anyways, Canada played a large role in WW1 and WW2 as well.

As for the American thing, does a name really mean anything?
Conceptualists
19-12-2004, 19:01
Yes if I may, Team America:World Police, Deep Throat, Behind the Green Door, Gone With the Wind.

You have simply given a list of famous films, without saying how they are superior to films made else where in the world. And the way you fromed your original statement (America makes the best films) seems to suggest you think that there is something intrinsic aboiut American films that makes them better, however I may be reading too much into it.

We in the States are the most free as we do as we please as long as it is legal and does not hurt others. Now you may say that Europe is more free, but you'd be wrong. If a nation has a national healthcare program (and where you pay taxes for said system) those people are slaves to the system for their health needs. In America it is up to you to decide for yourself what to do with yourself in regards to healthcare. Also last time I checked "Hate Speech" is not really approved of in Europe and Canada, as you can get into some serious trouble for saying things that aren't nice to certain groups. Heck in Canada the Bible could be considered a hate document. In America you have the right to say whatever you want so long as you don't incite a riot or call for someones death. Plus Europe wants to censor the internet.

Well, without getting into the nitty gritty. You have only 'shown' who America is more free then the stereotypical European country. There is a whole world out there. With a few advanced countries there.

Also, one could argue that Americans are just as much enslaved to the system as Europeans are, we both have socialised governments and 'pay' taxes to prop it up.
Zeppistan
19-12-2004, 19:28
In America you are entitled to your opinion.

Try this exercise: Go to a street corner in NYC, get up on a milk crate and start giving a speech condemning homosexuals, saying how evil they are, how they will burn in Hell. Now go to Montreal, London, Paris, etc. See what happens to you in those cities compared to NYC. Sure the NYC cop might tell you to move along as you are crowding a public walkway, but he won't arrest you for inciting hatred.


Clearly you have never been to Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park, and for the record - the Canadian laws only apply when they are intended to incite violence. This is not to far from the concept in the US that you cannot shout "fire" in a crowded movie theater thus inciting panic.

The "burn in hell" issue is also protected under section 319 of the criminal code that allows immunity from prosecution "if, in good faith, he expressed or attempted to establish by argument an opinion on a religious subject."

In other words, you can stand there and scream "homos are going to burn in hell" all you want. What you can't do is scream "Homos are the work of the devil. Let's go kill them!".

And for the record, several US states have passed Hate Crimes legislation as well, and Wisconson's has already passed the Supreme Court challenge to test it's Constitutionality - so this is hardly an issue foreign to the American legislative scene. Indeed, groups such as the Anti Defamation League have been working to institute such legilation for decades.

In other words, don't forget to point the finger at your own country as you are waving it about making accusations.
Conceptualists
19-12-2004, 19:32
Clearly you have never been to Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park,
I love that place. So British. We need a specially designated place to rant :p

However there plans to put restrictions on what could be said there. But IIRC that was simply because one guy has been there ever since the invasion of Iraq and he was really pissing the Gvt off. But I don't think they did anything in the end. The issue kinda just faded away.
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 19:52
In other words, don't forget to point the finger at your own country as you are waving it about making accusations.


I'll wave it as much as I want. Esp on this crazy internet. I don't need any evidence or proof. I say it is so, so it must be.

Zep you take yourself way too seriously, but I guess you own me because you are so smrt!

Esp with that wall of educational achievements, that your wife just had to point out to someone earlier.
Zeppistan
19-12-2004, 20:03
I'll wave it as much as I want. Esp on this crazy internet. I don't need any evidence or proof. I say it is so, so it must be.

Zep you take yourself way too seriously, but I guess you own me because you are so smrt!

Esp with that wall of educational achievements, that your wife just had to point out to someone earlier.


Awww, don't hate me just because I point out when you are grossly and blatantly wrong......
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 20:13
Awww, don't hate me just because I point out when you are grossly and blatantly wrong......


Awww, try not to use your sucky Canadian humor on me. You think I take myself seriously when I post on NS? If so you really are a Faulknerian Idiot Man-Child. I for one am the biggest fraud on here. You shouldn't believe anything I type. Yes I was grossly and blatantly wrong, but guess what? This is totally anonymous and whatever I type, can be as blatanly incorrect as I can make it. I get off the computer and have a life. You on the other hand sit there thinking of ways to really prove your points, but alas you're still retarded. Sure you may have a fabulous Canadian education (haha), but you are a lame-o, just like me. That was funny though when your "wife" said that about how "educated" the two of you are. :)
Crimson blades
19-12-2004, 20:28
Well most of the whites are Europes rejects the political malcontents we could not be arsed with. The blacks are ex slaves.

Face it most "Americans" as in the USA are a bunch of rejects from all over.

The modern American is a small minded bigot that thinks the USA is the start and end of the world. They have little or no grasp of what goes on in the world.

They think the Christian religion is the be all and end all and think that those who do not go to church are strange. A nation that allows you to own a gun but hates to see a womans brest on TV. Where "the moral majority" keep the poor, poor by having a poor education system.

These arfe not the ramblings of some one who knows no Americans I have worked and lived there as well as being on holiday. I have suffered the USA military for most of my life. On that point I would love to see a war that America starts get finished effectivly where they do not need Great Britian's assistance!

Gets off soap box

How could that possibly define an American when I am not a devout follower of the christian Religion? I might celebrate christmas and easter but I don't go to church on a normal basis. Im not even sure if I go more than once a year. Thats also the case for millions apon millions of people in this nation.

Another thing I might point out to you is that we are not all small minded "Bigots" as you seem to think true. All of my friends and people that are close to be, whether they be family, or someone I met in the mall, do not run around with Old Glory draped over them yelling "Were number one! everyone else suks!! I Love USA!!!WOOHOO!!!" although there are people like that, just like anywhere else.

Sure Im patriotic, but im not a moron. I know that there are people elsewhere, living thier lives and enjoying thier own day, much like I was doing before I came across your post. I keep that under consideration always. I also hold the fact that we are all human beings very close to my heart.

Do not think of people in other nations as differant people. we are all inherently the same, the only thing a country does is draw lines on a map telling us that we are all differant when we are not. don't treat me like an idiot just for being born somewhere where you are not as well informed about as you may think.
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 20:36
Clearly you have never been to Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park


Clearly I have, but I was in London for only a short amount time (got out before I vomitted). The city was just dreadful, what an uncool place to be.

Hyde Park=repugnant
Conceptualists
19-12-2004, 21:26
Clearly I have, but I was in London for only a short amount time (got out before I vomitted). The city was just dreadful, what an uncool place to be.

Hyde Park=repugnant
Too true. Try coming up north next time ;)
Johnny Wadd
19-12-2004, 21:59
Too true. Try coming up north next time ;)


Well where the heck doesn't it suck in England? Do I sense an invitation, cause I'd love to see better parts as I've been just about everywhere in Europe. I liked Ireland, beautiful there. Compared to London, it was the garden of Eden.
Ogiek
20-12-2004, 04:06
"We Are All Americans Now."

headline from Le Monde, 12 September, 2001
Ogiek
20-12-2004, 04:08
Clearly I have, but I was in London for only a short amount time (got out before I vomitted). The city was just dreadful, what an uncool place to be.

Hyde Park=repugnant

"...when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford."

— Samuel Johnson
Smoltzania
20-12-2004, 04:19
an american is anyone who was born in the US or has ever lived in the US and calls himself/herself an american.
Tumonia
20-12-2004, 06:12
Homo Americanus, a field guide:

Description:
The Homo Americanus has a distinct round shape.
The male usually has a baseball cap, the female can be identified by "tall hair".
The Homo Americanus has no natural camouflage and stands out from its surroundings when it is out of it's natural habitat.

Natural Habitat:
Most often found near fastfood, television-sets or international conflicts.

Migration:
Homo Americanus rarely migrates.

Mating habits:
Studies have shown that the Homo Americanus picks up its mating habits and courting rituals from a tightly knit ring of alpha-males known as "Hollywood". (Note:"Hollywood" seems to be a major factor in the upbringing of their young and the Homo Americanus's main source of knowledge).

Sounds: Gunfire, belching and calls of "Yes, I would like to supersize that" are the ones most commonly heard.

Behavior: Random. Very aggressive, approach with caution. It can smell oil from halfway across the globe and seems to react to it with violent behavior.
Tumonia
20-12-2004, 06:59
*pmub*
Blobites
20-12-2004, 07:57
"define a American"

An American seems to be (for the most part) someone who doesn't pay much attention to grammar or spelling when posting on messageboards. ;)
Aust
20-12-2004, 10:04
Well where the heck doesn't it suck in England? Do I sense an invitation, cause I'd love to see better parts as I've been just about everywhere in Europe. I liked Ireland, beautiful there. Compared to London, it was the garden of Eden.
Come to Yorkshire, it's great up here. All hills and little cottages and shops. Lots of grass and sheep. It's a good life. After all why else is it called Gods own County?
Chinkopodia
20-12-2004, 11:01
America: Land of the greatest athletes, most Nobel Prize winners, great universities, best pornography, most attractive women, best space program, best film industry, and most free people.


Also land of the third largest population and probably one of the most developed nations, so it's no surprise. If Britain was as big as America I'm sure it would be the same story.
Pelosien
20-12-2004, 11:15
Seeing as there's so many topics that seem to start with someone yelling Americans! Do this do that ect. I was wondering what a American really is. Can you define one to me?
its a guncrazy :mp5: :sniper: :gundge: idiot :D
Aust
20-12-2004, 15:38
Also land of the third largest population and probably one of the most developed nations, so it's no surprise. If Britain was as big as America I'm sure it would be the same story.
I know, I mean where only about the size of one of it's states and we ruled a lot of the world at one point.
Sineal
20-12-2004, 16:14
Now you may say that Europe is more free, but you'd be wrong. If a nation has a national healthcare program (and where you pay taxes for said system) those people are slaves to the system for their health needs. In America it is up to you to decide for yourself what to do with yourself in regards to healthcare. .

Tell the kid who is slowly dying in hospital because their parents cannot afford an operation to save their life that at least they are going to die in a country where no one is a 'slave' to the government and don't have to pay as much taxes as a place where everyone is entitled to free health care and i'm sure you'll cheer them up somewhat :)
Torching Witches
20-12-2004, 16:14
Seeing as there's so many topics that seem to start with someone yelling Americans! Do this do that ect. I was wondering what a American really is. Can you define one to me?
Which one?
Nevareion
20-12-2004, 16:34
Which one?
The one at the back on the left next to the tall guy.
Torching Witches
20-12-2004, 16:37
The one at the back on the left next to the tall guy.
You mean the black one with the dreadlocks and the Oakley sunglasses?

EDIT: Oh, sorry, he's not black, he's just stood in the shadow of the other bloke.
Nevareion
20-12-2004, 16:54
You mean the black one with the dreadlocks and the Oakley sunglasses?

EDIT: Oh, sorry, he's not black, he's just stood in the shadow of the other bloke.
Yup thats him.
Torching Witches
20-12-2004, 17:01
Yup thats him.
Okay.

He's got olive-coloured skin, or mixed race (I can't tell from this distance) - dark enough that if he was stood in the shadow of a tall man, you might think he was black. He has dreadlocks, and is slightly shorter than average (maybe 5'7").

He wears Oakley sunglasses indoors, which tells you that he is probably very fashion conscious, or potentially that he has some kind of problem with his eyes.

Um, that's about as well as I can do, I'm afraid. If you want to know about his likes/dislikes, you'll have to go talk to him. I haven't got time. But it's likely that he listens to reggae.
Bucksnort
20-12-2004, 17:01
Tell the kid who is slowly dying in hospital because their parents cannot afford an operation to save their life that at least they are going to die in a country where no one is a 'slave' to the government and don't have to pay as much taxes as a place where everyone is entitled to free health care and i'm sure you'll cheer them up somewhat :)

My sentiments exactly. And I am an American, incidentally, embarrassed though I am to admit such, considering how the rest of the world views us as uncivilized, imperialistic brutes, who are bigots and self-centered jerks.

I hate to say the rest of the world has a point, because this DOES seem to be what america is becoming.

Not "God Bless America" but "GOD HELP AMERICA!!" Please, my dear, sweet Lord, help our sick and troubled nation.
Nevareion
20-12-2004, 17:06
Okay.

He's got olive-coloured skin, or mixed race (I can't tell from this distance) - dark enough that if he was stood in the shadow of a tall man, you might think he was black. He has dreadlocks, and is slightly shorter than average (maybe 5'7").

He wears Oakley sunglasses indoors, which tells you that he is probably very fashion conscious, or potentially that he has some kind of problem with his eyes.

Um, that's about as well as I can do, I'm afraid. If you want to know about his likes/dislikes, you'll have to go talk to him. I haven't got time. But it's likely that he listens to reggae.
I think that's got him pretty well defined. Job done :D
Torching Witches
20-12-2004, 17:10
I think that's got him pretty well defined. Job done :D
Do I win?
Nevareion
20-12-2004, 17:13
Do I win?
Yeah ok. You win a...erm...an american! Yes! Of your choice!

Who d'you want then?
Torching Witches
20-12-2004, 17:13
Yeah ok. You win a...erm...an american! Yes! Of your choice!

Who d'you want then?
The tall one.
Nevareion
20-12-2004, 17:15
The tall one.
Oh? Kinky.
Torching Witches
20-12-2004, 17:18
Oh? Kinky.
No, it's not like that, honest. Tall people are just more handy for household chores. The only thing is, I'll have to get a taller radiator to chain him to.
Nevareion
20-12-2004, 17:23
No, it's not like that, honest. Tall people are just more handy for household chores. The only thing is, I'll have to get a taller radiator to chain him to.
Ah, I see, shorter ladders etc. Well you could always keep him in the airing cupboard.
Aust
20-12-2004, 18:30
He likes Punk Rock more, I spoke to him.