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Why Are White People Uncool?

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Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 03:46
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?
Mistress Kimberly
15-12-2004, 03:47
I don't know about you, but i am SUPER-cool.

heehee. :)
Defensor Fidei
15-12-2004, 03:49
Whites have achieved the greatest success in all the world and are indeed "cool," so to put it. "Eminem" is not cool, as he acts like the negroes and is a member of the Jewish establishment.
New Cyprus
15-12-2004, 03:49
I think it has something to do with most people being robots, but the white variety of robots being infected with some flesh eating virus, but what am I to say.

Or everyone has different view points, so, ummm, yeah. That makes some, or a very little, amount of sense. Yeah, so this really didn't help did it? Oh well, it added some useless, extremely useless, insight.
Tandu Systems
15-12-2004, 03:50
Bah, dont listen to those stupid minorities.
Theyre just angry 'cause we got Michael Jackson.
Of course, that is actually a BAD thing, but (s)he is the only example of a black guy turning white that I know of.
Jayastan
15-12-2004, 03:57
white girls are NOT cool, they never let me do them in the bum...
New Genoa
15-12-2004, 03:58
Dude, we're white.
Right-Wing America
15-12-2004, 03:58
all the other races are just jealous thats all.
Right-Wing America
15-12-2004, 03:58
white girls are NOT cool, they never let me do them in the bum...

pervert
Jayastan
15-12-2004, 04:01
pervert


What sodomy is fun!
Chodolo
15-12-2004, 04:01
white girls are NOT cool, they never let me do them in the bum...
Racist.

:p
Girlonia
15-12-2004, 04:08
correction- they dont let you do them in the bum... :)
Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 04:34
Whites have achieved the greatest success in all the world and are indeed "cool," so to put it. "Eminem" is not cool, as he acts like the negroes and is a member of the Jewish establishment.

Being Jewish, I resent that comment.

And by the way no one has answered my question, with a real answer.
Whest and Kscul
15-12-2004, 04:37
Whites have achieved the greatest success in all the world and are indeed "cool," so to put it. "Eminem" is not cool, as he acts like the negroes and is a member of the Jewish establishment.

Did you just say "negroes"? :rolleyes:
..It's not 1959, KKK boy...I being at one point Jewish, I agree with Pin...
Defensor Fidei
15-12-2004, 04:37
Christ-killers are always resentful.
Right-Wing America
15-12-2004, 04:39
Christ-killers are always resentful.


Seriously
BLARGistania
15-12-2004, 04:39
Christ-killers are always resentful.
what's you point? Like Christians aren't?

If that was sarcasm, well done
Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 04:40
Listen jackass. I didn't want racist bullshit overflowing from God knows where to here. If you want to preach white supremacy go ahead, but not here.
Defensor Fidei
15-12-2004, 04:40
What is with everyone here and their obsession with finding sarcasm where there is none?
Defensor Fidei
15-12-2004, 04:41
I'm not "preaching White supremacy," I'm simply pointing out facts.
BLARGistania
15-12-2004, 04:43
1. Sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet. We don't know if you're kidding or not, that's why a lot of people ask.

2. Why do you hate jewish people? Is there actually a reason or are you just an idiot who has nothing but blind hatred?
CthulhuFhtagn
15-12-2004, 04:43
I'm not "preaching White supremacy," I'm simply pointing out facts.
I never knew that "fact" was a synonym for "bullshit".
Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 04:43
Really so you are saying Christ was killed by the Jews?
Hmm... Let's look back to the past shall we?

Jesus, born a Jew. Killed by ROMANS. Died a Jew. All he did was preach togetherness, which is good. But for Romans it was against their pagan religion.
Defensor Fidei
15-12-2004, 04:44
Why do you hate jewish people? Is there actually a reason or are you just an idiot who has nothing but blind hatred?
I don't "hate." (here starts the Jewish smearing)
I'm simply pointing out how vile the Jews are as murderers of Christ.
Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 04:45
Well, you got a religion out of it, shouldn't you be happy?
Avios
15-12-2004, 04:46
The question posed by this thread implies white inferiority. Frankly, with so many anti-white sentiment in the world, I've stopped caring about groups like the KKK.
BLARGistania
15-12-2004, 04:48
I don't "hate." (here starts the Jewish smearing)
I'm simply pointing out how vile the Jews are as murderers of Christ.

How about the Christians as the murderes and oppressors of millions of people? Just as another example. Don't hate others for doing the exact same thing that your religion has done.
Defensor Fidei
15-12-2004, 04:50
How about the Christians as the murderes and oppressors of millions of people? Just as another example. Don't hate others for doing the exact same thing that your religion has done.
My religion has done no such thing.
Right-Wing America
15-12-2004, 04:51
Really so you are saying Christ was killed by the Jews?
Hmm... Let's look back to the past shall we?

Jesus, born a Jew. Killed by ROMANS. Died a Jew. All he did was preach togetherness, which is good. But for Romans it was against their pagan religion.

Jesus is not a jew. His father was GOD( and he doesnt submit to any earthly religons) True the actual murdering was done by the Romans but if the jews never wished for his death in the first place Jesus would have never been killed, and so jews take the blame becuase they have instigated the death of christ. BTW it wasnt the Romans who were against his concepts of love for all it was the high jewish council which was against his ideals becuase the ancient kingdom of israel was an extremely racist nation which viewed itself as the most superior culture as opposed to all those around them. Jesus taught tolerance of all and agreed that the jews should integrate and respect the Roman empire. But tolerance is something the jews just wouldnt stand for.
Battery Charger
15-12-2004, 04:51
For cying out loud, don't instigate the racists. Although, I don't know what's wrong with the word 'negro'. People don't like it, so I don't use it. The word 'black' is problematic because it's associated with death, evil, darkness, and all around negativity. 'African American' is often innacurate since not all blacks are African, and not all Africans are black. And of course, not all blacks are American.

But to answer the question, I don't know. I don't seem to have much say in what's cool. I somewhat bothers me that the word 'white' has become a synonym for un-cool. What does one mean when they say, "Dude, you're so white!"?
Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 04:51
Agreed. The reason I posted this thread was to answer the question. Everything that we (the whites) do seems to some way copy a trend from another race. Things like JLo, Pokemon, and hip hop are all popular things. Little girls, of all races, are paying so much money for these things especially white upper class kids, but all of the creations are from other races. The whitest sport I can think of is golf and yet that is only really popular because of an Asian/Black kid named Tiger. Tennis is a good example of a white popular failure. Think about it, how many kids run around wearin tennis get ups? Compare that to the number of kids wearing soccer cleats (football in Europe) a game that originated with the Huns. So what is it that makes white people so "uncool"?
All Things Fabulous
15-12-2004, 04:52
Defensor Fidei must be one of those people who The Passion had a great "impact" on. :rolleyes:

White people are uncool because they always think they are right and have a holier than thou approach to absolutely everything. I'm speaking as a whitie. Wake up; just because you've had certain experiences and opportunities doesn't mean everyone has, especially minorities and poor people.
BLARGistania
15-12-2004, 04:52
My religion has done no such thing.
are you a christian?
CthulhuFhtagn
15-12-2004, 04:52
My religion has done no such thing.
Yeah! The Crusades and the Inquisition were just Jewish plots!
Right-Wing America
15-12-2004, 04:54
Yeah! The Crusades and the Inquisition were just Jewish plots!

Finally you have admitted it.
Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 04:54
Yeah! The Crusades and the Inquisition were just Jewish plots!

Beautifully put.

And let me guess, slavery to the Egyptians was our idea too? Man, whipping is so great, I mean Moses and his people musta been SnM freaks. No wonder we do it through sheets, it's the torture of not seeing that turns us on.
(I'm kidding about the sheet)
Jewmany
15-12-2004, 04:55
This board has got to be one of the most bigotted boards I've ever been on. I can't believe what the mods let go here.
Battery Charger
15-12-2004, 04:56
Defensor Fidei must be one of those people who The Passion had a great "impact" on. :rolleyes:

White people are uncool because they always think they are right and have a holier than thou approach to absolutely everything. I'm speaking as a whitie. Wake up; just because you've had certain experiences and opportunities doesn't mean everyone has, especially minorities and poor people.
Speak for yourself! :mad:
Battery Charger
15-12-2004, 04:57
This board has got to be one of the most bigotted boards I've ever been on. I can't believe what the mods let go here.
Hah! You've never read yahoo's news message boards, have you?
Right-Wing America
15-12-2004, 04:57
This board has got to be one of the most bigotted boards I've ever been on. I can't believe what the mods let go here.


Yes because anyone who states something contrary to the jewish truth is a bigot :rolleyes:
All Things Fabulous
15-12-2004, 04:58
There are exceptions. :)
CthulhuFhtagn
15-12-2004, 04:58
Beautifully put.

And let me guess, slavery to the Egyptians was our idea too? Man, whipping is so great, I mean Moses and his people musta been SnM freaks. No wonder we do it through sheets, it's the torture of not seeing that turns us on.
(I'm kidding about the sheet)
I was being sarcastic. If you check the previous page, I called his claims "bullshit". In another thread he's in, I've been ridiculing him nonstop. I keep forgetting to use the :rolleyes: emoticon.
Conceptualists
15-12-2004, 04:58
Yeah! The Crusades and the Inquisition were just Jewish plots!
Actually, to be far the Crusades would have probably have happened anyway without the existence of Christianity. And in general the activities of the Inquisition have been greatly over exagerated (and DF would have a point if he said that it was a protestant plot).
Jewmany
15-12-2004, 04:58
Hah! You've never read yahoo's news message boards, have you?

I stand corrected.
Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 04:59
Yes because anyone who states something contrary to the jewish truth is a bigot :rolleyes:

OOOOOHHH thats how it is. I thought it was cause we run the media. Well maybe I am wrong. Al jazeera, thats JEWCENTRAL jesus, you should see it.
Dakini
15-12-2004, 05:33
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?
eminem isn't cool.

eminem is a tool. he wants to be black. that doesn't make him cool.


some cool white people: anthony kiedis, flea, john frusciante, dave grohl, serge tankian, daron malakian, toni iomi, bob dylan, ozzy osbourne, jimmy paige, pete townshend, angus and malcom young, billie joe armstrong, tom morello, ani difranco, david bowie, et c. (i left out: george carlin, kevin smith, eric clapton, johnny cash, john lennon)

these people are all so much cooler than eminem can ever aspire to be.

a big reason being: they don't have to pretend to be something they're not. they are who they are and fuck you if you don't like them.
Dakini
15-12-2004, 05:37
i forgot to add: eminem tries too hard to be controversial and is rapidly becoming a parody of himself.

i group him in with the female pop musicians (pretending to be punk or rock) who feel the need to attack britney spears or christina aguilera for being pop. eminem is pop and he makes fun of pop artists and pretends that he isn't one.
Gizhaum
15-12-2004, 05:37
Well, people as a whole generally suck, but theere are fine distictions. Anyone from asia is a robot, anyone who is jewish is responsible for the death of christ, anyone from germany is responsible for the death of those responsible for the death of christ, anyone from britian is a snob, anyone from france is a pussy, and anyone with white skin can't dance and is lame. There.

Please note, I am not serious. Just having fun at others expense.
Dakini
15-12-2004, 05:40
Really so you are saying Christ was killed by the Jews?
Hmm... Let's look back to the past shall we?

Jesus, born a Jew. Killed by ROMANS. Died a Jew. All he did was preach togetherness, which is good. But for Romans it was against their pagan religion.
slight correction. the romans probably got peeved at jesus when he caused a ruckus in the temple (remember your bibles kids) thus earning him a death sentence. (yes, they killed people for stealing and creating a public disturbance is slightly worse than that) it has nothing to do with religion.
Dakini
15-12-2004, 05:53
Agreed. The reason I posted this thread was to answer the question. Everything that we (the whites) do seems to some way copy a trend from another race. Things like JLo, Pokemon, and hip hop are all popular things. Little girls, of all races, are paying so much money for these things especially white upper class kids, but all of the creations are from other races. The whitest sport I can think of is golf and yet that is only really popular because of an Asian/Black kid named Tiger. Tennis is a good example of a white popular failure. Think about it, how many kids run around wearin tennis get ups? Compare that to the number of kids wearing soccer cleats (football in Europe) a game that originated with the Huns. So what is it that makes white people so "uncool"?
how about heavy metal? punk rock? grunge? rock? (yes, i know it was partially stolen from black blues musicians, but it was blended with country, which is very white)
hell guitars originiated in europe. as did the tonality of modern music. (you don't hear us using a pentagonal scale like traditional oriental music) ad mittedly, drums and precussion were taken from the turks...
and hey physics is cool. and the founding fathers of physics are white.. :) calculus is entirely a european invention (the greeks discovered it, it was lost, newton and leibniz discovered it independantly)

there are lots of very cool white people, dead or alive.
Free Soviets
15-12-2004, 05:57
some cool white people: [...] tom morello

tom may be cool, but he's half african. his father was part of the mau mau rebellion and later was part of the kenyan UN delegation, and jomo kenyatta, the first elected president of kenya, was apparently his uncle.

ratm fandom to the rescue!
Harlesburg
15-12-2004, 05:59
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?
Thats a matter of opinion on both parts
i blame democracy :D
Dakini
15-12-2004, 06:00
tom may be cool, but he's half african. his father was part of the mau mau rebellion and later was part of the kenyan UN delegation, and jomo kenyatta, the first elected president of kenya, was apparently his uncle.

ratm fandom to the rescue!
hmm.. i had no idea. well... he's half white though... so he can still count. if only as .5... he doesn't look half black at all.

but then i have a friend who is half greek and half jamacian (apparantly his mother is really dark too) and he's pastier than me, and i'm probably nearly half british (well, probably less... my mom's side is scottish, irish, welsh, french, german, swedish and finnish, my dad's is irish and eastern european) i'm also quite tan. (damn sun)
The Force Majeure
15-12-2004, 06:01
Because we don't wear hats sideways, have shirts that go to our knees, and are without gold teeth?
Incenjucarania
15-12-2004, 06:01
It's generally agreed that anyone who's actually TRYING to be cool -isn't- cool, they're simply posers.

Eminem is a poser in about a dozen ways, and is about as cool as Vanilla Ice in a mohawk and speedos.

Frankly, anyone who has to focus on some generic branded culture to show themselves in a positive light is -far- from cool.

Genuine self-expression and disinterest in the societal demands of your peers is where 'coolness' comes from.
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 06:04
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?

Because your sick definition of cool involves beating women, doing drugs, raping, murdering, drive bys, and generally breaking the law, knocking up lots of "hoes" and not taking care of the results (raising the kids)


To me cool is being responsible, law-abiding, taking care of your responsibilities, raising your family the right way, and being a good Christian.
CthulhuFhtagn
15-12-2004, 06:07
Because your sick definition of cool involves beating women, doing drugs, raping, murdering, drive bys, and generally breaking the law, knocking up lots of "hoes" and not taking care of the results (raising the kids)


To me cool is being responsible, law-abiding, taking care of your responsibilities, raising your family the right way, and being a good Christian.
All the racists are returning! First it was TT, now it's DA. Maybe Enod will be next.
Dobbs Town
15-12-2004, 06:07
White people are uncool 'cause of Pat Boone, Mall culture, and the first World War.

Jump in at any time, folks...
Incenjucarania
15-12-2004, 06:08
Because your sick definition of cool involves beating women, doing drugs, raping, murdering, drive bys, and generally breaking the law, knocking up lots of "hoes" and not taking care of the results (raising the kids)


To me cool is being responsible, law-abiding, taking care of your responsibilities, raising your family the right way, and being a good Christian.

Well, that -is- cool... unless you're doing it for the sake of eternal reward, in which case, you're as bad as Eminem. He just gets his reward for sure, right now, rather than maybe, later. Edit: Okay, not as bad as him, because what you do isn't potentially destructive assuming you're not a hyper-right zealot or the like (which I doubt you are, as you can spell well enough).

I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume you're being a good person to be a good person, and the Christianity thing is just a side benefit.

--

And just for the note of this thread, I'm visibly white, but have a whole swarm of nationalities. Most of them are European or descended from Europe (Canada, France, England, Wales, Scottland, Ireland, Germany), but I also have two doses of Native American. With proper preperation, I can be visibly any of these, and espouse a cultural bias on to myself to claim some sort of false 'cool' factor by conforming. I can even fake a few other cultures readily enough (I've recently been accused of being Greek and Armenian).

I could also readily fit in to a good dozen sub-groups, (I could pull Emo or Goth off, Biker if I had a bike, and I could pose in a good number of fandoms that I've been vaguely associated with).

I instead choose to be me, without any one culture defining my choices or tastes.

Gets me plenty of action and attention, so obviously not the worst way to live.
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 06:09
Really so you are saying Christ was killed by the Jews?
Hmm... Let's look back to the past shall we?

Jesus, born a Jew. Killed by ROMANS. Died a Jew. All he did was preach togetherness, which is good. But for Romans it was against their pagan religion.


Matthew 27:

20But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.

21“Which of the two do you want me to release to you?” asked the governor.

“Barabbas,” they answered.

22“What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called Christ?” Pilate asked.

They all answered, “Crucify him!”

23“Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.

But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”

24When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man's blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”

25All the people answered, “Let his blood be on us and on our children!”

26Then he released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.
Ge-Ren
15-12-2004, 06:09
This thread just reminds me how little people get out and actually SEE the world...it's really sad.


Ge-Ren
Dakini
15-12-2004, 06:11
Matthew 27:

20But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.

21“Which of the two do you want me to release to you?” asked the governor.

“Barabbas,” they answered.

22“What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called Christ?” Pilate asked.

They all answered, “Crucify him!”

23“Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.

But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”

24When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man's blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”

25All the people answered, “Let his blood be on us and on our children!”

26Then he released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.
wow. what an accurate source. (how does one do the rolly-eye emoticon?)
Gorloq
15-12-2004, 06:12
I'm going to ignore the bigotry that has been shown thus far...

Except I believe that all people should be judged as individuals, not for what that person's respective race has accomplished. You're white? Great, I don't care what whites in the past have accomplished. You're black? Great, I'll see you as an individual, not as a symbol for what your race has accomplished. Likewise, does it matter what Jews may or may not have been responsible in the past? I know quite a few Jews. None of them seem to go around celebrating the fact (and I don't literally mean "fact") that they killed Christ.

But to answer the topic question, it's mostly because of the current state of pop-culture. Hip-Hop dominates pop culture presently. This is due to exploitation from the media (radios, MTV, etc). Hip-Hop is the cool thing in pop-culture. Hip-Hop is often associated with black artists (obviously). As such, black people are often instantly considered to be cool because they are representatives of the current dominate pop-culture. And because white people are not black (duh), they are generally not part of the hip-hop culture, and thus, uncool. That's my theory anyway :/
Gizhaum
15-12-2004, 06:12
I says we should just end this right now, causre things are gonna get really unpleasent soon if this goes on.
CthulhuFhtagn
15-12-2004, 06:12
wow. what an accurate source. (how does one do the rolly-eye emoticon?)
: rolleyes :

Remove the spaces.
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 06:12
Jesus is not a jew. His father was GOD( and he doesnt submit to any earthly religons) True the actual murdering was done by the Romans but if the jews never wished for his death in the first place Jesus would have never been killed, and so jews take the blame becuase they have instigated the death of christ. BTW it wasnt the Romans who were against his concepts of love for all it was the high jewish council which was against his ideals becuase the ancient kingdom of israel was an extremely racist nation which viewed itself as the most superior culture as opposed to all those around them. Jesus taught tolerance of all and agreed that the jews should integrate and respect the Roman empire. But tolerance is something the jews just wouldnt stand for.


Mark 3:2-6

Some of them were looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath. 3Jesus said to the man with the shriveled hand, “Stand up in front of everyone.”

4Then Jesus asked them, “Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they remained silent.

5He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored. 6Then the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians how they might kill Jesus.




Main Entry : pharisee
Pronunciation:*fa-r*-(*)s*
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English pharise, from Old English farise, from Late Latin pharisaeus, from Greek pharisaios, from Aramaic p,r*shayy*, plural of p,r*sh*, literally, separated
Date:before 12th century

1 capitalized : a member of a Jewish sect of the intertestamental period noted for strict observance of rites and ceremonies of the written law and for insistence on the validity of their own oral traditions concerning the law
CthulhuFhtagn
15-12-2004, 06:13
I says we should just end this right now, causre things are gonna get really unpleasent soon if this goes on.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Mystical Lands
15-12-2004, 06:14
What the hell kind've racist thread is this?? White ppl not being cool?? Okay why are black people so ignorent and crime oriented all the time?? or I got it why are jews so ungreatful, and sneaky all the time? Or why are asians all rice eaters?? I mean come on people...every race in this world has its ups and downs to it...just like every nation, and every living humen....But to make a ridiclous post about a race being uncool?? Stupid...that just makes your race uncool for even doing it... Besides the fact that "White People" put there lives on the line in this world everyday to make life easier or free for jews, blacks, and well everything else out there....not to mention there are some very respectable blacks that do it too...but i got one more question to add this lil poll of uncool white people... Why is every arab a terrorist pig that needs to be slowly tortured to death?? Does anyone see my point here????
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 06:14
This board has got to be one of the most bigotted boards I've ever been on. I can't believe what the mods let go here.



So, you all are for censorship, can't debate it so ban it eh?

Just like across Europe, where "Anti-hate speech" laws are in place to prevent whites from saying anything the powers that be would take offense to.
Dakini
15-12-2004, 06:15
jesus was definitely jewish.

in judaism, isn't lineage passed through the mother's side?

doesn't matter who his father was, his mom was jewish, thus, jesus= jewish.
The Force Majeure
15-12-2004, 06:19
So...wearing clothes that fit and not having gold teeth is 'uncool?' Fine with me.
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 06:19
jesus was definitely jewish.

in judaism, isn't lineage passed through the mother's side?

doesn't matter who his father was, his mom was jewish, thus, jesus= jewish.

John 8:39-55
39“Abraham is our father,” they answered. “If you were Abraham's children,” said Jesus, “then you would do the things Abraham did.

40As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things.


41You are doing the things your own father does.” “We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.

43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.


44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!


46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?

47He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”


48The Jews answered him, “Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demonpossessed?”

49“I am not possessed by a demon,” said Jesus, “but I honor my Father and you dishonor me.

50I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge.

51I tell you the truth, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death.”

52At this the Jews exclaimed, “Now we know that you are demonpossessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that if anyone keeps your word, he will never taste death.

53Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?”

54Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me.

55Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word.



8:44 makes it clear he cannot be a jew because they are the children of satan, Christ is the son of God. 8:48 "the jews answered him" makes it clear he was talking to the jews, thus they are the ones to whom 8:44 "You are the children of the devil" applies to. Thus they are of the devil, the children of Satan, and he, being the son of God, cannot be one of them, thus he cannot be a jew.
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 06:20
jesus was definitely jewish.

in judaism, isn't lineage passed through the mother's side?

doesn't matter who his father was, his mom was jewish, thus, jesus= jewish.



He was born of immaculate conception, he was genetically what God willed him to be. He was not genetically related to Mary at all. Nor was he related to any man genetically. He was of the divine.
The Force Majeure
15-12-2004, 06:20
What's with the bible quotes? Who gives a shit - this has nothing to do with the topic.
Leonidus Ageis
15-12-2004, 06:26
I guess you have to be an old fart like me to see the trends in folks. Every war brings a shift in politics (view point USA). At the beginning you have stuff such as the rather racist and childish comments surging in both media and general conversation. These folks gain a little power because people are scared which leads them to follow anyone with a strong opinion. So you get the Christian right wingers calling for blood and you get the skinheads and the Nazi and what other zealots that happen to be floating around jostling for power positions. After several thousand GIs loose their lives, after the ecconomy bombs out, after various nukes get repointed in our direction, folks back off a little because things weren't easy and tidy like the zealots claimed. This entire nonsense about Christ killers and which race is cool(er) is inane. No race is cool or uncool. It is an individual thing. Some people are nasty and some aren't. You have to judge by the individual. Like I said, I am an old fart and I am not very good at "flame wars" or what have you. But I have seen alot of folks live and die in my time, most of them were good people. It takes a hell of a lot of work to hate some one. (By the way to all you Christians out there, read your book, go over the 10 commandments again. Don't hate, don't kill...that sort of thing). Those folks that insist on hating someone or something are afraid of it. It takes a strong man to look at what he hates and to realize that hate is just fear. Once you stop hating you realize theres alot more to this world. And if you deny that, well, good luck, zealots tend to devour each other. Ok, I said my piece and I am no good at arguing any more. Oh yeah, one other thing. A nice little christian proverb that has an equivilent in many other religions: You reap what you sow.
--Cheers
Romarea
15-12-2004, 06:29
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?


Well, the white world has been more successful than the rest for some centuries now. I think its natural that they have grown somewhat arrogant, and too full of themselves, if one may risk a generalization, just human nature, I guess. If the industrial revolution had taken place in China for instance and the Chinese were the superpower today, I dont think they would have been any different.
K Dorough
15-12-2004, 06:34
why is it that its cool to be a minority these days? you got white people trying to be black, or saying they're "puertoriquennnos". White people have flourished for centuries, the rest of the races can't seem to get it together.

if that doesn't make us "cool" what does? I mean the fact that we can function as a society should make us the coolest people in the world.

the only reason white people aren't cool is because we've been labeled that way, because a lot of us, not all of us, have the ability to prosper in a world full of morons while the rest of you can only sit back and mess up society and your own lives.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 06:35
He was born of immaculate conception, he was genetically what God willed him to be. He was not genetically related to Mary at all. Nor was he related to any man genetically. He was of the divine.
hehehe maybe it is all just a big story Mary made up cause she was too scared to tell her father or Joseph that she got knocked up

“ohhh it better be immaculate marry!”
Great Agnostica
15-12-2004, 06:35
Well Said Leonidus
Fairly
15-12-2004, 06:39
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?

Eminem isn't cool; he is completely disrespectful of non-white peoples. What makes white people uncool? The same thing that makes everyone uncool--disrespect of other religions/cultures/morals/ethics/beliefs/faiths. Not all whites are uncool, just as many non-whites are uncool. Every skin tone has uncool people. Lumping one group as uncool, is UNCOOL. And silly. And racist.
Spirulzhikstinai
15-12-2004, 06:40
Christ-killers are always resentful.

how would you know? i'm pretty sure the people that killed christ died give or take two thousand years ago.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 06:41
how would you know? i'm pretty sure the people that killed christ died give or take two thousand years ago.
Cause he/she is 13 and knows everything
Pantera
15-12-2004, 06:42
I'm white, and I'm probably 'uncool' because I hate your religion and I hate your race.(better?)

Why do I hate them? Why not? They're definately different than my own. That should be enough, apparently. They're not my own, so they must be shitty and utterly uncool. So take your different colored skin, your different 'holy' book, your different language, and your different ass, and get the fuck out of my face.[/sarcasm](Really this time...)

You're a rascist, Pants.

Eat shit, poser.

[/offensive ranting]
Jeandoua
15-12-2004, 06:44
How about if we don't stereotype eachother? Everyone's different, and I'm sure there are just as many uncool black people as white people, haha.
Rejected kitties
15-12-2004, 06:57
I have a bunch of guy roommates, and alot of times I hear them make comments about women of non-white races being more beautiful... I feel boring and white, just like every other girl. That's why I think of them as being cooler. Of course, that only applies to the people I see on tv; if I'm talking face to face with someone of a different race, they are just as cool (or uncool) as anyone else.
Ogiek
15-12-2004, 07:00
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?

According to TakeOurWord.com the term "cool" has its roots in the mid-20th century:

"It was first recorded in writing in the title of an album by the Charlie Parker Quartet: "Cool Blues". This is how the slang form of cool was first used, to refer to a certain restrained or relaxed style of jazz. It was later applied to those who preferred that kind of jazz, especially in the term cool cat. That usage arose in 1948, while Charlie Parker's album was released in 1947.

It was also in 1948 that the word acquired its "hip" sense, so that anyone or thing that was cool was the subject of approval. The word has retained that basic sense through the present day." (http://www.takeourword.com/Issue031.html)

Eminem may be popular, even idolized, but in terms of a relaxed, restrained, laid back attitude he is not "cool."
Goed Twee
15-12-2004, 07:13
I'm white, and I'm cool ;)
Branin
15-12-2004, 07:16
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?

White people are uncool, primarily becuase I happen to white. Sorry about my bad image guys.
Lunatic Goofballs
15-12-2004, 07:23
I'm so cool, you cuold keep a side of beef in me for a month!(My god, that sounds so wrong). I'm so hip, I have trouble seeing over my pelvis!

Of course, I'm hispanic. LOL. :p
Incenjucarania
15-12-2004, 07:26
I have a bunch of guy roommates, and alot of times I hear them make comments about women of non-white races being more beautiful... I feel boring and white, just like every other girl. That's why I think of them as being cooler. Of course, that only applies to the people I see on tv; if I'm talking face to face with someone of a different race, they are just as cool (or uncool) as anyone else.

Well, frankly, that's part of how we GOT people of different appearances.

I, for instance, tend to have a thing for women of Asian descent (My ex is half-Malay, my makeout partner has a teeeensy bit of Vietnamese, and I met her in the Japanese club...). I also tend to have a thing for women who have similar TRAITS, but aren't actually of that nationality. As such, I tend to have a thing for emo chicks and goth girls as well (at least your typical germanic-ish ones), and Native Americans from certain mixes. Dark Hair, Pale Skin, a less-than-massive bust, and quirky but witty personalities, and I'm in heaven. That said, my makeout partner got my attention -before- she dyed her hair black from a light brown, and my best, sexiest friend is a natural blonde, and is damned sexy no matter what color she dyes her hair (which is pretty much constantly).

It doesn't keep me from appreciating other traits and nationalities, but the further from my preffered traits the less my instincts respond.

Heck, I'd date a blonde, busty near-black African woman despite her being about the opposite of my 'reaction' traits, so long as I enjoyed her personality, I just wouldn't be fighting off my hormones quite so much, at least early in the relationship.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 07:37
We are generally not very good at sports, can't dance, and we are pale. We listen to bands like Pink Floyd and Radiohead, we go to college, we have more money, we wear slacks and suits and ties.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 07:41
We are generally not very good at sports, can't dance, and we are pale. We listen to bands like Pink Floyd and Radiohead, we go to college, we have more money, we wear slacks and suits and ties.
Hmmm

I not good at sports and cant dance I love floyd hate radiohead going to collage and am dirt poor hmmm wierd mix
Altegonia
15-12-2004, 07:41
what's uncool about pink floyd?
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 07:43
what's uncool about pink floyd?

You are probably uncool if you have to ask.

Have you listened to them lately?
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 07:45
You are probably uncool if you have to ask.

Have you listened to them lately?
Um latly … they have changed?


I also like the clasics

Mudvayne
Slipknot
Korn
40 below summer
Metalica
Disturbed
AFI

You know classics (so many more)
Norleans
15-12-2004, 07:46
I can't believe this thread isn't locked yet. What a load of racist, bigoted, stupid B.S.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 07:47
Um latly … they have changed?

I thought that maybe his memory had faded.

I also like the clasics

Mudvayne
Slipknot
Korn
40 below summer
Metalica
Disturbed
AFI

You know classics (so many more)

All pretty uncool, but not bad, almost.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 07:48
I can't believe this thread isn't locked yet. What a load of racist, bigoted, stupid B.S.

I haven't read it, what is wrong with it? Do you get offended when you are called uncool?

By the way, getting offended about being called uncool is seriously uncool.
Branin
15-12-2004, 07:48
I can't believe this thread isn't locked yet. What a load of racist, bigoted, stupid B.S.

Because we are all white people making fun of ourslevles. It is a grand joke.
Altegonia
15-12-2004, 07:49
You are probably uncool if you have to ask.

Have you listened to them lately?
the wall and dark side of the moon were amazing. That makes pink floyd cool by default.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 07:49
I thought that maybe his memory had faded.



All pretty uncool, but not bad, almost.
Lol I suppose but I do like all rock … don’t suppose that helps my “coolness”
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 07:50
the wall and dark side of the moon were amazing. That makes pink floyd cool by default.

They are slow and depressing, almost impossible to have fun to.

How many people do you know who like Pink Floyd aren't white males?
Dakini
15-12-2004, 07:52
They are slow and depressing, almost impossible to have fun to.

How many people do you know who like Pink Floyd aren't white males?
me.

my sisters.

we're white females.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 07:52
Lol I suppose but I do like all rock … don’t suppose that helps my “coolness”

I'm in the same boat. In fact, I have a check beside almost all of those qualifications, even one I forgot:

Use correct grammar? check
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 07:54
me.

my sisters.

we're white females.

Are you considered cool in general?

People like me, but they don't generally think I am cool.
Dakini
15-12-2004, 07:55
I also like the clasics

Mudvayne
Slipknot
Korn
40 below summer
Metalica
Disturbed
AFI

You know classics (so many more)
those aren't classics.

with the exception of metallica, (well, somewhat exception of afi) those bands are on the whole, shite.

and even metallica is just a wanna be motorhead. listen to some real fucking metal.

or at least classic rock so it has earned the title "classic." geez.

a further note: none of those bands would be anywhere without black sabbath...
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 07:56
I'm in the same boat. In fact, I have a check beside almost all of those qualifications, even one I forgot:

Use correct grammar? check
I am usually fairly good with grammar (sometimes slides on online forums but in general) my spelling is horrible though … everything has to at least go through a word before going out lol
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 07:58
I am usually fairly good with grammar (sometimes slides on online forums but in general) my spelling is horrible though … everything has to at least go through a word before going out lol

Do cool people use LOL? Theres another issue.

Another reason white people are considered uncool: Star Wars Kid
Dakini
15-12-2004, 07:59
Are you considered cool in general?

People like me, but they don't generally think I am cool.
one of my sisters is considered cool. she's bigger on pink foyd than i am.

i personally don't know whether i'm considered cool or not. i'm not in highschool anymore... i don't really care or notice what other people think.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 07:59
those aren't classics.

with the exception of metallica, (well, somewhat exception of afi) those bands are on the whole, shite.

and even metallica is just a wanna be motorhead. listen to some real fucking metal.

or at least classic rock so it has earned the title "classic." geez.

a further note: none of those bands would be anywhere without black sabbath...
I know was being a smartass

And when I say anything rock I mean almost anything (neglecting pop)

(and if you want to be fair Black Sabbath would be no where without influences like jojo gunn and the likes) But I digress I again was being a smartass

Did not mean to reflect on the total scope of my listening
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 08:00
Do cool people use LOL? Theres another issue.

Another reason white people are considered uncool: Star Wars Kid
OMG lol that thing is HORRIBLE lol
Dakini
15-12-2004, 08:00
Another reason white people are considered uncool: Star Wars Kid
that kid's great!

he would be cool if he didn't go about suing people for his embarassment and just laughed it off.
Branin
15-12-2004, 08:03
those aren't classics.

with the exception of metallica, (well, somewhat exception of afi) those bands are on the whole, shite.

and even metallica is just a wanna be motorhead. listen to some real fucking metal.

or at least classic rock so it has earned the title "classic." geez.

a further note: none of those bands would be anywhere without black sabbath...

Metallica is still good. In fact I like metallica more that MH, although Lenny is cool. (Lenny Quote (as close as I can remember it) "if we played next to your house, your lawn would die") True about sabbath, although you have to add Deep Purple, and (unfortunately) Led Zepplin to that list, those three bands defined metal. And AC DC's back in black for keeping metal alive, and leading a comeback, when it was almost dead.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 08:08
Metallica is still good. In fact I like metallica more that MH, although Lenny is cool. (Lenny Quote (as close as I can remember it) "if we played next to your house, your lawn would die") True about sabbath, although you have to add Deep Purple, and (unfortunately) Led Zepplin to that list, those three bands defined metal. And AC DC's back in black for keeping metal alive, and leading a comeback, when it was almost dead.
Hell if you are going to attribute … bands like MEGADEATH
Not to mention stones (I hate to admit that one)
Like you said purple
JoJo
Sabbith
AC/DC
Steppenwolf

Hell even twisted sister (they just released a new album “we’re still hungry” re recorded version of their original of a slightly different name)

They all changed the face of music

Another one I hate to admit … beetles they changed some things too (lots of recording techniques and album techniques in general)

Hell Ringo even got enough money from that gig to fund Monty Python :)
Dakini
15-12-2004, 08:09
Metallica is still good. In fact I like metallica more that MH, although Lenny is cool. (Lenny Quote (as close as I can remember it) "if we played next to your house, your lawn would die") True about sabbath, although you have to add Deep Purple, and (unfortunately) Led Zepplin to that list, those three bands defined metal. And AC DC's back in black for keeping metal alive, and leading a comeback, when it was almost dead.
why is it unfortunate that led zeppelin are included there? they kick much ass.

and you shoudl hear motorhead's cover of enter sandman. it is superior to metallica's version... one of the very few covers for which this is true (it goes up there with all along the watchtower as done by jimi hendrix in my book of good covers... for my book of terrible covers see under the bridge as preformed by all saints and riders on the storm as covered by snoop dog, not to forget imagine as covered by a perfect circle..)
Indigo Carmine
15-12-2004, 08:09
There are so many cool white people, it's just a different kind of cool. It's more of a classy James Bond kind of cool.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 08:13
See, you know we are uncool since someone mentioned Monty Python and it wasn't in reference to how uncool we are.
Battery Charger
15-12-2004, 09:56
They are slow and depressing, almost impossible to have fun to.

How many people do you know who like Pink Floyd aren't white males?
just 1, although it's not something I ask people all the time.
Right thinking whites
15-12-2004, 13:51
why do you take thier definiton of cool, the one porteaid by massmedia
if you ask me i think that there is something wrong with m&m (no im not going to spell its name properly)
white people invented cool(the fonz)
i dont realy see many white people on tv degradeing the country with out thier "cool" black "bruda's and sista's"
Ogiek
15-12-2004, 13:58
white people invented cool(the fonz)

Actually, Charlie "Yardbird" Parker, a black man, invented cool, long before "Fonzy" appeared on the stage in the 1970s:

According to TakeOurWord.com the term "cool" has its roots in the mid-20th century:

"It was first recorded in writing in the title of an album by the Charlie Parker Quartet: "Cool Blues". This is how the slang form of cool was first used, to refer to a certain restrained or relaxed style of jazz. It was later applied to those who preferred that kind of jazz, especially in the term cool cat. That usage arose in 1948, while Charlie Parker's album was released in 1947.

It was also in 1948 that the word acquired its "hip" sense, so that anyone or thing that was cool was the subject of approval. The word has retained that basic sense through the present day." (http://www.takeourword.com/Issue031.html)
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 14:55
I have a bunch of guy roommates, and alot of times I hear them make comments about women of non-white races being more beautiful... I feel boring and white, just like every other girl. That's why I think of them as being cooler. Of course, that only applies to the people I see on tv; if I'm talking face to face with someone of a different race, they are just as cool (or uncool) as anyone else.


They are what we call, brainwashed lemmings. Don't worry, if you're a good Christian woman, you're not boring at all.

It's they who have the problem.

I don't remember which friend told me this, but it goes something like this, "Black may be beautiful, tan may be grand, but white is still the color of the big boss man."
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 15:02
They are what we call, brainwashed lemmings. Don't worry, if you're a good Christian woman, you're not boring at all.

It's they who have the problem.

I don't remember which friend told me this, but it goes something like this, "Black may be beautiful, tan may be grand, but white is still the color of the big boss man."
Lol my ultimate boss is asian :p
Jester III
15-12-2004, 15:10
Don't worry, if you're a good Christian woman, you're not boring at all.

And what exactly is the correlation between boring and christian? Christians can be bores as well as anybody else.
Tandu Systems
15-12-2004, 15:29
ATTENTION!
It is vitally important that everybody who got terribly pissed off when they read this thread...well, read this thread!
Read it very throroughly and clearly. If you have to print it out and tape it to your computer for further refrence.
From now on, when you see a thread, refer to the paper and think very hard on whether or not its one of the following:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381635
Jester III
15-12-2004, 16:05
So, you all are for censorship, can't debate it so ban it eh?

And how exactly do you think one should debate with someone like you who has his set point which has only place for a narrow view on the world? It is you who equals black to criminals, sets christianity above others and does not accept the concept of equality. If you left the impression of being open to arguments it might be worth a try, but you use slanted beliefs as arguments so banging a head against the wall seems less painfull.

Just like across Europe, where "Anti-hate speech" laws are in place to prevent whites from saying anything the powers that be would take offense to.

Hinting that Europe is not "really" governed by whites shows that you are not ready for discussion. Europe consists of white, and slightly tanned for southern Europe, people electing other white people to govern them.
Right thinking whites
15-12-2004, 16:14
They are what we call, brainwashed lemmings. Don't worry, if you're a good Christian woman, you're not boring at all.

It's they who have the problem.

I don't remember which friend told me this, but it goes something like this, "Black may be beautiful, tan may be grand, but white is still the color of the big boss man."
you have a point, they are being brain washed as are most young people nowadays trying to be "cool" or "urban", i think its a result of to much tv or the steadaly decriesing morality/content of tv shows

oh and i like your friends quote
Peechland
15-12-2004, 16:35
As if my day wasnt crappy enough here at work, then I find out I'm not cool cause I'm white. Friday cant come soon enough.


Oh and in regards to a previous post......what is the correct term to call black people since negro, black and african american are taboo? What do we call them without sounding racist? :confused:
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 16:37
As if my day wasnt crappy enough here at work, then I find out I'm not cool cause I'm white. Friday cant come soon enough.


Oh and in regards to a previous post......what is the correct term to call black people since negro, black and african american are taboo? What do we call them without sounding racist? :confused:
I get :confused: a lot about it too ... I want to be nice but I cant go around calling everyone "african american" Ive gotten yeled at more then once by people who are not both of thoes (some friends realy from africa) lol I just get confused with all this pc stuff sometimes so many name changes
Right thinking whites
15-12-2004, 16:54
As if my day wasnt crappy enough here at work, then I find out I'm not cool cause I'm white. Friday cant come soon enough.


Oh and in regards to a previous post......what is the correct term to call black people since negro, black and african american are taboo? What do we call them without sounding racist? :confused:
i still use negro
and in most conversation you can use boy, as long as they think your jokeing
sence very few are form africa that a.a. term cant be used
also sence when is calling a negro a black person wrong
New Jeffhodia
15-12-2004, 17:00
They are what we call, brainwashed lemmings. Don't worry, if you're a good Christian woman, you're not boring at all.

It's they who have the problem.

"If you're all about the Jesus, you must be interesting!" Brainwashed lemmings, you say?

I don't remember which friend told me this, but it goes something like this, "Black may be beautiful, tan may be grand, but white is still the color of the big boss man."

What does a WWF wrestler from the 80's have to do with anything?

What does a WWF wrestler from the 80's have to do with anything?

This is why white people are uncool.
Peechland
15-12-2004, 17:02
i dont know- down here where i live, the correct thing to say is black person or african american. but as someone pointed out- some may not be from africa or america. of course i live in the south(USA) and we have inbred rednecks who still call them Niggers. I hate that word and sorry i had to type it.
Codian States
15-12-2004, 17:07
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?
Two words.


Dan Fogelberg (http://www.danfogelberg.com/).
Right thinking whites
15-12-2004, 17:10
i dont know- down here where i live, the correct thing to say is black person or african american. but as someone pointed out- some may not be from africa or america. of course i live in the south(USA) and we have inbred rednecks who still call them Niggers. I hate that word and sorry i had to type it.
why that word does not souly refur to negros
i have seen many whites that i am sorry to say that i would refur to as niggers
also i cant go an hour at work with out hereing some negro making the coment "my ****** please" or somthing to that effect
AYK
15-12-2004, 17:10
can I Just Say Something?

The Game Rules Say That U Cannot Be Racist. Since This Thread Is Degrading White People Then Isn't This Racist?

No? No!!!!!!?????????


What The F**k!!!!!!!??????? Does Racism Only Apply To Anyone Who Is Not White? What Would Have Happened If The Thread Title Was 'why Are Black People Uncivilised?'?

What Is This, A One Way Traffic? This Thread And The Person Who Started It Should Be Deleted!
Right thinking whites
15-12-2004, 17:12
where do the rules say i cant be racist?
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 17:17
can I Just Say Something?

The Game Rules Say That U Cannot Be Racist. Since This Thread Is Degrading White People Then Isn't This Racist?

No? No!!!!!!?????????


What The F**k!!!!!!!??????? Does Racism Only Apply To Anyone Who Is Not White? What Would Have Happened If The Thread Title Was 'why Are Black People Uncivilised?'?

What Is This, A One Way Traffic? This Thread And The Person Who Started It Should Be Deleted!

Very uncool post.

Anyone who had any sort of coolness would understand that this some innocent self-depricating humor.

Do you think that many people on here are overly concerned with coolness? It's a political rpg, for christsake!!

EDIT: The font size was pretty uncool, as well.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 17:19
can I Just Say Something?

The Game Rules Say That U Cannot Be Racist. Since This Thread Is Degrading White People Then Isn't This Racist?

No? No!!!!!!?????????


What The F**k!!!!!!!??????? Does Racism Only Apply To Anyone Who Is Not White? What Would Have Happened If The Thread Title Was 'why Are Black People Uncivilised?'?

What Is This, A One Way Traffic? This Thread And The Person Who Started It Should Be Deleted!
Dude I can handle being un-cool and white … that’s what we all have to learn to do … be mellow more

And realizing jokes … something else people have to do

Oh yeah and not talking in big font sizes
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 17:20
Very uncool post.

Anyone who had any sort of coolness would understand that this some innocent self-depricating humor.

Do you think that many people on here are overly concerned with coolness? It's a political rpg, for christsake!!

EDIT: The font size was pretty uncool, as well.
Lol we think alike :)
New Jeffhodia
15-12-2004, 17:20
why that word does not souly refur to negros
i have seen many whites that i am sorry to say that i would refur to as niggers

Eh? Please explain.

also i cant go an hour at work with out hereing some negro making the coment "my ****** please" or somthing to that effect

They're allowed to say that because they're a part of the group the word would insult. It's like if I call someone 'Whitey.' Since I'm white there isn't the same racist tone.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 17:21
Eh? Please explain.



They're allowed to say that because they're a part of the group the word would insult. It's like if I call someone 'Whitey.' Since I'm white there isn't the same racist tone.
Though it is kind of weird that whitey or cracker does not draw the same flack as some other racial slurs
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 17:24
Though it is kind of weird that whitey or cracker does not draw the same flack as some other racial slurs

What exactly is the negative connotation to whitey or cracker?

I'm not saying they aren't bad, but they don't hold near the amount of weight as ******.
Right thinking whites
15-12-2004, 17:25
What exactly is the negative connotation to whitey or cracker?

I'm not saying they aren't bad, but they don't hold near the amount of weight as ******.
why not?
New Jeffhodia
15-12-2004, 17:26
Though it is kind of weird that whitey or cracker does not draw the same flack as some other racial slurs

I think that's because in our area of the world there's such a large white majority. We can kind of laugh it off more easily since we've got an underlying feeling of inclusion.

But that's just how I see it, and I'm a dumb cracker.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 17:27
What exactly is the negative connotation to whitey or cracker?

I'm not saying they aren't bad, but they don't hold near the amount of weight as ******.
Depends on the tone and situation

I mean same as ****** it is just a word

It is all about emotional loading and tonal and who it Is coming from and a host of other variables

The words themselves have no real emotional content to me but the use of them sometimes does cause a reaction … so yeah don’t know where I am going with this lol
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 17:31
why not?

That's up to society to answer, not me. There is alot of emotion tied to the words, ****** especially.

However, ****** has several blatant stereotypes tied to it, while I am not sure what stereotypes are tied to whitey and cracker.
AYK
15-12-2004, 17:33
I bet half of all of you dont even understand what 'RACISM' means.
It is the belief in the superiority of a particular race, therefore making this thread RACIST.
Dontgivadamn
15-12-2004, 17:33
White people don't have to be cool - we're white. Glad we have "cool" people though - we need them to entertain us and do laundry for us and stuff. :)
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 17:35
I bet half of all of you dont even understand what 'RACISM' means.
It is the belief in the superiority of a particular race, therefore making this thread RACIST.
rac•ism (r s z m)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
Part of it yes … but it has a larger definition too (if you claim to have total knowledge of what racism is you better say the whole thing) incomplete answers are incorrect also
New Jeffhodia
15-12-2004, 17:39
I bet half of all of you dont even understand what 'RACISM' means.
It is the belief in the superiority of a particular race, therefore making this thread RACIST.

Thank you for informing me of the definition of racism. Up until now I thought it meant delicious candy.

This thread has been varying between joking about how lame white people are and discussing the sociological roots and impact of racism. It seems that few people here actually believe racist ideas.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 17:44
I bet half of all of you dont even understand what 'RACISM' means.
It is the belief in the superiority of a particular race, therefore making this thread RACIST.

*!*!*!*!*!*WAY TOO SERIOUS ALERT*!*!*!*!*!*!*

Christ, I understand racism.

The fact is that even though there are no biological differences, there are general cultural differences between the races. They don't apply across the board, obviously, but they are there. And the fact is that pop culture is based more around the urban culture than the suburban or rural culture.
Jester III
15-12-2004, 17:48
why that word does not souly refur to negros
i have seen many whites that i am sorry to say that i would refur to as niggers
also i cant go an hour at work with out hereing some negro making the coment "my ****** please" or somthing to that effect

Are you paid to mutilate your language?
Rockness
15-12-2004, 17:54
So, you all are for censorship, can't debate it so ban it eh?

Just like across Europe, where "Anti-hate speech" laws are in place to prevent whites from saying anything the powers that be would take offense to.

You are an idiot.

Maybe some day you'll see the hipocrisy and racism in everything you've said... but probably not since you've resorted to quoting the Bible as un-debatable fact.

Some people are cool. Some people are not. Race is irrelevant.
No Breaks
15-12-2004, 18:06
Jesus is not a jew. His father was GOD( and he doesnt submit to any earthly religons)

moron alert!
Jesus was a Jew because his mother was a Jew.
Ghargonia
15-12-2004, 18:06
White people are uncool because of Timmy Mallet. That is the sole reason. He has destroyed our image with inflatable hammers and insanely colourful clothes, and now we will never get it back. Other people to blame include:

- Me
- My family
- John Prescott (AKA Jupiter)

And holy mother of Horus I'm pretty amazed at some people in this thread. I'm pretty glad I read through it though, 'cause I found a few people to add to my ignore list. I don't use that thing much, I want to test it out. For instance, I thought DA was only like he is IC, didn't realise he was basing it on his own beliefs.
Independence Land
15-12-2004, 18:12
I don't "hate." (here starts the Jewish smearing)
I'm simply pointing out how vile the Jews are as murderers of Christ.

The Jews did not kill Jesus; humankind did.
Sinuhue
15-12-2004, 18:13
The question posed by this thread implies white inferiority. Frankly, with so many anti-white sentiment in the world, I've stopped caring about groups like the KKK.
That is ridiculous. Yes, the original post is ridiculously racist as well, despite the fact that it was written by a white person. (deal with your inferiority complex, and define 'cool' anyway). However, to turn around and say, "Oh no, all these people hate whites, so I don't care if white people hate them back" is a real step backwards. I'm half white. For white supremists, that isn't good enough. For normal people, I am what I am. Normal people don't go around burning others or beating them to death because they hate their colour. Normal people are sickened by such actions. Let's keep on the lookout for the psychos who put their hate into action, NOT MATTER WHICH GROUP THEY TARGET.
Independence Land
15-12-2004, 18:15
They are slow and depressing, almost impossible to have fun to.

How many people do you know who like Pink Floyd aren't white males?

I saw a muslim girl at UIC wearing a pink floyd hoodie.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 18:17
I saw a muslim girl at UIC wearing a pink floyd hoodie.
AWSOME (sorry I do like pink)
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 18:19
That is ridiculous. Yes, the original post is ridiculously racist as well, despite the fact that it was written by a white person. (deal with your inferiority complex, and define 'cool' anyway). However, to turn around and say, "Oh no, all these people hate whites, so I don't care if white people hate them back" is a real step backwards. I'm half white. For white supremists, that isn't good enough. For normal people, I am what I am. Normal people don't go around burning others or beating them to death because they hate their colour. Normal people are sickened by such actions. Let's keep on the lookout for the psychos who put their hate into action, NOT MATTER WHICH GROUP THEY TARGET.

What the hell, we are talking about being uncool here. UNCOOL. We aren't talking about lynch mobs, race riots, or affirmative action.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 18:20
I saw a muslim girl at UIC wearing a pink floyd hoodie.

It's good to see that she has a different taste in music than the norm, but this does little to disprove my point.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 18:20
What the hell, we are talking about being uncool here. UNCOOL. We aren't talking about lynch mobs, race riots, or affirmative action.
Because some people need more :fluffle:
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 18:23
Because some people need more :fluffle:

Yes, these people must have developed a coolness complex in high school because they didn't get enough fluffle.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 18:25
I would also like to point out that Asian people, with the exception of Klonor, tend to be even less cool than white people, if that is possible.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 18:25
Yes, these people must have developed a coolness complex in high school because they didn't get enough fluffle.
or maby too much :fluffle: ? I could see it happening
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 18:26
or maby too much :fluffle: ? I could see it happening

I don't think you can ever do enough fluffling.
Peechland
15-12-2004, 18:27
do the following facts about me make me a cool or uncool:
-i like to watch people breakdance
- i think "Whos line is it anyway?" is hilarious
- i eat ice cream with a fork
- i think tonka trucks are awesome and im about to start a collection (im a 30 year old female)

oh and i still say "groovy" ;)
Right thinking whites
15-12-2004, 18:33
The Jews did not kill Jesus; humankind did.
this is bullshit
but i dont have time for it now
but i will get back to this at some later time
Isselmere
15-12-2004, 18:34
Coolness is purely subjective. To attribute coolness to any one group simply indicates your valuation of such and such category. In any case, coolness is pure faddism anyway.

There are plenty of "cool" people whatever their ethnic origin. You just have to buy into the fact that person or that thing is "cool" and there you are -- by extension, you are cool.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 18:37
Coolness is purely subjective. To attribute coolness to any one group simply indicates your valuation of such and such category. In any case, coolness is pure faddism anyway.

There are plenty of "cool" people whatever their ethnic origin. You just have to buy into the fact that person or that thing is "cool" and there you are -- by extension, you are cool.

Wrong, the first step to being cool is to never imply that you actually are cool. The next step is to never admit that anybody else might be cooler than you.

If you have failed either of these first two steps, you have failed at being cool.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 18:43
this is bullshit
but i dont have time for it now
but i will get back to this at some later time
I think the martians did it

:fluffle:
Sakkra
15-12-2004, 18:49
What is the obsession with being 'cool'? Cool people suck. They try too hard to look and act 'cool', and their 'cool' is blown too easily. Way too much effort.

Be a dork. Life is so much simpler then.
Chridtopia
15-12-2004, 19:08
This thread is seriously making me sick.

I don't know if the original poster was looking for more or a light witted response but this has turned into a KKK rally.

Not all blacks are not gang-bangers. And though it is hard for me to imagine sometimes not all whites are completely fucking racist that wish they were in the KKK but want to put the effort into their hate.

Eminem is not trying to be black he’s being who he is, he’s being the kid that grew up in a rough neighbor. Yes we think of rappers are black but they can be other colors, we also think of blacks as the only one in crappy neighborhoods, but *gasp* not all white kids are from middle class or even lower middle class (trailers). Why are blacks less likely to be middle class? Because they started out with less - absolutely nothing – and it take generations to improve the standards of living. After slavery ended, most that stayed in the south ended up in a feudal system with share crops and considering it hasn’t been that long and there have been countless barriers in the way to reach middle class quite frankly they’ve just started. Assumptions that blacks are lazy, un-responsible, and care nothing of their family is utter racist bullshit. You will get unreasonable, lazy, baby makers from all races, we just look at the blacks and go “Oh see I told you.” You see what you want to see and ignore anything that contradicts it.

There is no Jewish conspiracy. Out of the thousands of years they have been on this earth there is no proof of any conspiracy, there is no need. And even if they was what the fuck do you think they're trying to do? What is even the point? People are just pissed off and need a scapegoat or at the very least someone to point at and make themselves feel better. The only "Jewish conspiracy" there has even been was a conspiracy against them. The religion in a whole is pretty tame - excluding maybe Israel - for having gone though so much shit from the Egyptians to the Germans, to present day.
Siljhouettes
15-12-2004, 19:14
Christ-killers are always resentful.
What have the Romans got to do with this?
PunxfullofHell
15-12-2004, 19:17
i think we're cool because we made heavy metal! what did africans make? fuckin'drums and rap. what the fuck!?!? i think people who listen to rap are inappropriate and have no talent where as we can actually sing AND play an instrument at the same time! they make up little bleeps and clicks that i think are annoying as hell




P.S. GO WHITE PEOPLE


im not racist, just proud
Bvimb VI
15-12-2004, 19:21
I think the martians did it

:fluffle:

No it was the mods :eek: ! The mods killed jesus to make us paranoid and fluffy!
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 19:23
i think we're cool because we made heavy metal! what did africans make? fuckin'drums and rap. what the fuck!?!? i think people who listen to rap are inappropriate and have no talent where as we can actually sing AND play an instrument at the same time! they make up little bleeps and clicks that i think are annoying as hell




P.S. GO WHITE PEOPLE


im not racist, just proud
Ok I like rock but I can respect drumming ability … and rap … like anything a lot of the sales is on an image …

Would a lot buy a billy joel album if he looked and sold an attitude like eminem … no
They are going for an image that agrees with a target audience
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 19:24
No it was the mods :eek: ! The mods killed jesus to make us paranoid and fluffy!
Wow I better up my estimate of Myrths age
New Jeffhodia
15-12-2004, 19:29
we can actually sing AND play an instrument at the same time! they make up little bleeps and clicks that i think are annoying as hell

Yeah, but the singing in metal doesn't really take all that much talent as compared to other genres. The instrumental work can be pretty impressive though.

i think people who listen to rap are inappropriate

Ok, that's pretty funny. I'm sure someone's going to be offended but I'd say it's worth it.
Lorana
15-12-2004, 19:32
My friend says that we're uncool because we can't sing "Yeah" correctly :D
British Hannover
15-12-2004, 19:39
I agree with those who say that this thread is becoming somewhat nauseating. Firstly, 'coolness' is a subjective, socially defined adjective and individual value can only be judged on the individual level. Around where I live, the quintissential minority are Native Canadians (about 15% of the city's population), we only have a few hundred blacks, maybe five hundred or so Asians and maybe five Jewish families. I live in a small city in Manitoba, so that's the context I am typing from.

Secondly, 'race' is as much of a social concept as it is biological, in fact, the whole notion of biological races is dubious at best. The genetic relationships of different human populations is considerably more complex than black, or white, or yellow, what have you. Furthermore, if you believe in evolution, the cradle of humanity was Africa (Tanzania to be specific), so at one point, the entire human race was black. The reason why some people have what we call 'white' or 'black' racial characteristics is due to (on the evolutionary scale) last-minute adjustments to adapt to environments.

The reason why black people are 'black' (or dark brown) is due to melanin production, which is natural sunblock. Caucasians are paler due to living in colder climates and pale skin absorbs Vitamin D more readily from sunlight, which is sometimes at a premium in the winter. People of European descent tend to be hairier than others due to colder climates. None of this has a major effect on individual human value. It just means black people might not have to slather on the sunscreen as much as I might.

And about the Jews and Jesus ... that's only one way to read the Bible, and that's only if you read it as absolute, inerrant fact, which I don't. Jesus's teachings are rooted heavily in Judaism and Christianity only became seperate from Judaism later when people like Paul began to convert Gentiles (or non-Jews). Secondly, the Gospel of Matthew, probably the most anti-Semitic (in our modern perception) of the Gospels, was written right after the Christians were removed from the synagogues. Because, before then, it was understood that the Christians, or Nazarenes, were a Jewish sect.

Furthermore, about that claim of Jews being the 'children of Satan', firstly, I don't take the Bible as inerrant, secondly, could the 'children of Satan' have contributed as much to our society as the Jews have? In spite of millennia of presecution, the Jewish faith (or people, because what makes one Jewish is a very complicated matter) has contributed enormously to our society.

I believe that Jesus was in fact Jewish and resent the fact that this logical fact has to be 'covered up'. In any case, he was raised in a Jewish family and lived and died as a practicing Jew in Palestine, ie, Jewish central. If he wasn't Jewish and not meant to teach to primarily Jews, why Palestine and not, say, Rome?

Did the Jews kill him? Well, the answer isn't exactly 'no', the truth is that Jesus was executed by a segment of the Jewish temple elite, plus some Pharisees (not all of them), but that Pilate had to at least give passive acquisance to his execution. All of the players involved lived in the 1st century CE and it's stupid to blame modern Jews for an execution, one of about 100,000 in that area in that century.

Furthermore, I thought the belief of practicing Christians was that Jesus died for the redemption of humanity, that our sins made his death necessary. Did he not say, 'forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do?' (if mostly about the Roman centurions) If that is the fact, then nobody and everybody was responsible for his death. And we should be forgiving not only Pilate and Caiaphas but also Judas, who, if this is true, was a tool of fate.

Oh yeah, and I think using Jesus's life and teachings to justify race-based hatred is absolutely nauseating. And now, brothers and sisters in NationStates, I would like to close this rambling sermon with a quote from the Apostle Paul.

For through faith you are all of God in union with Christ Jesus. There is no such thing as Jew and Greek, slave and freeman, male and female; for all of you are one person in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:26, 3:28)

PS- Am I the only person who is disturbed that the Roman Empire was a less racist society than modern America?
Texan Hotrodders
15-12-2004, 19:41
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?

Look back through the thread. Perhaps the answer to the question is right here.
East Canuck
15-12-2004, 19:44
Coolness is just another way for the white man to keep his brother down. That'S why white people aren't cool: we read the memo and know the purpose behind it.

What? You didn't get that memo?
My Gun Not Yours
15-12-2004, 19:47
Coolness is just another way for the white man to keep his brother down. That'S why white people aren't cool: we read the memo and know the purpose behind it.

What? You didn't get that memo?

Hmm. White people invented disco and curling. Does that answer the question?
Bvimb VI
15-12-2004, 19:49
PS- Am I the only person who is disturbed that the Roman Empire was a less racist society than modern America?

Nope, but Finland is probably worse. Were such a bunch of wannabe leftist nutjobs. Really.
Zachnia
15-12-2004, 20:00
pervert
LOL

umm... anyway it's just because we're the dominant race. and by dominant I just mean we're the ones doing the prejudging (or whatever) against everyone else.
Aeopia
15-12-2004, 20:03
Cool is an abstract concept, and thusly is different to each individual. Eminem is cool to you, to me he is an idiot.
My Gun Not Yours
15-12-2004, 20:26
Cool is an abstract concept, and thusly is different to each individual. Eminem is cool to you, to me he is an idiot.


How is curling cool? Ah, I see. It's done on ice.
East Canuck
15-12-2004, 20:41
How is curling cool? Ah, I see. It's done on ice.
Have you tried curling?
Hell of a game, if you ask me.
My Gun Not Yours
15-12-2004, 20:46
Have you tried curling?
Hell of a game, if you ask me.

Watched it close up. A lot of furious sweeping, and faces on the side locked in the grimace of thinking of the next move.

But not terribly exciting for the fans (as it is for most sports).
East Canuck
15-12-2004, 20:52
Watched it close up. A lot of furious sweeping, and faces on the side locked in the grimace of thinking of the next move.

But not terribly exciting for the fans (as it is for most sports).
Well, then, by your own admission you cannot really know how cool it is.
Just the fact that most curlers don't care when their sport is ridiculed is a testament to how cool you need to be to play the game.
My Gun Not Yours
15-12-2004, 20:53
Well, then, by your own admission you cannot really know how cool it is.
Just the fact that most curlers don't care when their sport is ridiculed is a testament to how cool you need to be to play the game.

Well, for a sport that's ridiculed, it gets a lot of airplay in Ottawa. I remember four simultaneous curling matches on at the same time...
Chridtopia
15-12-2004, 21:01
Just got this telegram a bit ago. Very mature.

<i>PunxfullofHell
Received: 88 minutes ago
FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FAGGOT!</i>
My Gun Not Yours
15-12-2004, 21:02
Just got this telegram a bit ago. Very mature.

<i>PunxfullofHell
Received: 88 minutes ago
FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FAGGOT!</i>

Perhaps that was meant for me. Well, I hope he gives a reacharound.
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 21:03
Secondly, 'race' is as much of a social concept as it is biological, in fact, the whole notion of biological races is dubious at best. The genetic relationships of different human populations is considerably more complex than black, or white, or yellow, what have you. Furthermore, if you believe in evolution, the cradle of humanity was Africa (Tanzania to be specific), so at one point, the entire human race was black. The reason why some people have what we call 'white' or 'black' racial characteristics is due to (on the evolutionary scale) last-minute adjustments to adapt to environments.

For through faith you are all of God in union with Christ Jesus. There is no such thing as Jew and Greek, slave and freeman, male and female; for all of you are one person in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:26, 3:28)



1) If you believe in that warped form of evolution we're all the same... However, Darwin stated that the three races (white, black, and yellow) evolved from different ancestors. Whites originated in Central Asia, blacks in Africa, and Asiatics in China primarily.

2) If you believe that we all came from one ancestor, does it matter where we started or where we are? Whether or not 100000 years ago we were all the same or not, means nothing today. We can clearly see who is ahead of the game.

3) (see I can quote the bible too)

2 Corinthians 6:14-18

14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?

16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

17“Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.” 18“I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.”
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 21:12
i think we're cool because we made heavy metal! what did africans make? fuckin'drums and rap. what the fuck!?!? i think people who listen to rap are inappropriate and have no talent where as we can actually sing AND play an instrument at the same time! they make up little bleeps and clicks that i think are annoying as hell




P.S. GO WHITE PEOPLE


im not racist, just proud

No you are racist.

BTW, you should watch this:

No Talent Black Guy (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/streetdrummer.wmv)

Edit: Or how about this

Another no talent black guy (http://oakkstudio.com/lvwarch1x.ram)
Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 21:14
back to the bible?

You are confusing me, which side are you on science or religion?
Darwin and the Bible, seem to have different views.
Sevaris
15-12-2004, 21:15
Strangest. Thread. Yet.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 21:19
back to the bible?

You are confusing me, which side are you on science or religion?
Darwin and the Bible, seem to have different views.
For 1 Darwinism is not current evolutionary theory

2 Darwin was trying to prove creationism originally :p so the man himself really was not trying to argue with the bible.
Independence Land
15-12-2004, 21:22
this is bullshit
but i dont have time for it now
but i will get back to this at some later time

If you truly understand the Bible u would know that it does not matter what group killed Jesus. You are just as guilty of Jesus' death as any Jew you see today. Why? Because we all have the capacity to sin. Sin is the real reason Jesus died.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 21:24
If you truly understand the Bible u would know that it does not matter what group killed Jesus. You are just as guilty of Jesus' death as any Jew you see today. Why? Because we all have the capacity to sin. Sin is the real reason Jesus died.
I sin … I :fluffle: to much
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 21:26
I want to add this one, its the best one yet:

Yet again, a no talent black guy (actually the same one as before) (http://oakkstudio.com/lvwarch3x.ram)

This is pretty bad ass.
My Gun Not Yours
15-12-2004, 21:27
If you truly understand the Bible u would know that it does not matter what group killed Jesus. You are just as guilty of Jesus' death as any Jew you see today. Why? Because we all have the capacity to sin. Sin is the real reason Jesus died.

Whoa Nellie!

We're not "guilty" of his death. His death and sacrifice were a GIFT FROM GOD. You're not supposed to feel guilty about it.

I wonder if you feel guilty when people give you presents on your birthday.
Independence Land
15-12-2004, 21:30
I agree with those who say that this thread is becoming somewhat nauseating. Firstly, 'coolness' is a subjective, socially defined adjective and individual value can only be judged on the individual level. Around where I live, the quintissential minority are Native Canadians (about 15% of the city's population), we only have a few hundred blacks, maybe five hundred or so Asians and maybe five Jewish families. I live in a small city in Manitoba, so that's the context I am typing from.

Secondly, 'race' is as much of a social concept as it is biological, in fact, the whole notion of biological races is dubious at best. The genetic relationships of different human populations is considerably more complex than black, or white, or yellow, what have you. Furthermore, if you believe in evolution, the cradle of humanity was Africa (Tanzania to be specific), so at one point, the entire human race was black. The reason why some people have what we call 'white' or 'black' racial characteristics is due to (on the evolutionary scale) last-minute adjustments to adapt to environments.

The reason why black people are 'black' (or dark brown) is due to melanin production, which is natural sunblock. Caucasians are paler due to living in colder climates and pale skin absorbs Vitamin D more readily from sunlight, which is sometimes at a premium in the winter. People of European descent tend to be hairier than others due to colder climates. None of this has a major effect on individual human value. It just means black people might not have to slather on the sunscreen as much as I might.

And about the Jews and Jesus ... that's only one way to read the Bible, and that's only if you read it as absolute, inerrant fact, which I don't. Jesus's teachings are rooted heavily in Judaism and Christianity only became seperate from Judaism later when people like Paul began to convert Gentiles (or non-Jews). Secondly, the Gospel of Matthew, probably the most anti-Semitic (in our modern perception) of the Gospels, was written right after the Christians were removed from the synagogues. Because, before then, it was understood that the Christians, or Nazarenes, were a Jewish sect.

Furthermore, about that claim of Jews being the 'children of Satan', firstly, I don't take the Bible as inerrant, secondly, could the 'children of Satan' have contributed as much to our society as the Jews have? In spite of millennia of presecution, the Jewish faith (or people, because what makes one Jewish is a very complicated matter) has contributed enormously to our society.

I believe that Jesus was in fact Jewish and resent the fact that this logical fact has to be 'covered up'. In any case, he was raised in a Jewish family and lived and died as a practicing Jew in Palestine, ie, Jewish central. If he wasn't Jewish and not meant to teach to primarily Jews, why Palestine and not, say, Rome?

Did the Jews kill him? Well, the answer isn't exactly 'no', the truth is that Jesus was executed by a segment of the Jewish temple elite, plus some Pharisees (not all of them), but that Pilate had to at least give passive acquisance to his execution. All of the players involved lived in the 1st century CE and it's stupid to blame modern Jews for an execution, one of about 100,000 in that area in that century.

Furthermore, I thought the belief of practicing Christians was that Jesus died for the redemption of humanity, that our sins made his death necessary. Did he not say, 'forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do?' (if mostly about the Roman centurions) If that is the fact, then nobody and everybody was responsible for his death. And we should be forgiving not only Pilate and Caiaphas but also Judas, who, if this is true, was a tool of fate.

Oh yeah, and I think using Jesus's life and teachings to justify race-based hatred is absolutely nauseating. And now, brothers and sisters in NationStates, I would like to close this rambling sermon with a quote from the Apostle Paul.

For through faith you are all of God in union with Christ Jesus. There is no such thing as Jew and Greek, slave and freeman, male and female; for all of you are one person in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:26, 3:28)

PS- Am I the only person who is disturbed that the Roman Empire was a less racist society than modern America?

That was beautiful
First of Two
15-12-2004, 21:30
Guilty of his death?

I wasn't there. My alibi is airtight.
Neane
15-12-2004, 21:34
Jesus is not a jew. His father was GOD( and he doesnt submit to any earthly religons)

jewish nationality passes via the mother not the father and he was a jew as a part of the jewish people for who judaism is the religion
Piquantrax
15-12-2004, 21:39
Correct
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 21:41
When did coolness become a hot button issue?

When did coolness resemble a passion play?

I apparently missed something somewhere along the line.
My Gun Not Yours
15-12-2004, 21:45
When did coolness become a hot button issue?

When did coolness resemble a passion play?

I apparently missed something somewhere along the line.

Vittos, all threads eventually devolve to one of the following other topics:
1. Bush, the US, or the Iraq War are evil
2. Gun control
3. Jesus
4. Islam
5. Homosexuality

or a combination of those above, mixed in with a lot of STFU and other nonsense.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 21:51
Vittos, all threads eventually devolve to one of the following other topics:
1. Bush, the US, or the Iraq War are evil
2. Gun control
3. Jesus
4. Islam
5. Homosexuality

or a combination of those above, mixed in with a lot of STFU and other nonsense.

At least most of those start out as being somewhat political, this is the strangest thread I have ever seen.

From why are white people uncool, to did the jews kill jesus.

I cannot think of a logical connection. :confused:
Nordrreich
15-12-2004, 21:57
1) If you believe in that warped form of evolution we're all the same... However, Darwin stated that the three races (white, black, and yellow) evolved from different ancestors. Whites originated in Central Asia, blacks in Africa, and Asiatics in China primarily.

2) If you believe that we all came from one ancestor, does it matter where we started or where we are? Whether or not 100000 years ago we were all the same or not, means nothing today. We can clearly see who is ahead of the game.

3) (see I can quote the bible too)

2 Corinthians 6:14-18

14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?

16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

17“Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.” 18“I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.”

Yes, you can quote the Bible. Which actually raises a good point. That the Bible contains contradictory messages, because different people wrote it with different viewpoints. The Bible supports many things that we would view as morally repugnant today, which is why I don't think of it as literal absolute truth, which is not to say that there isn't truth in it, or value in Christianity. Far from it, I actually think Christianity has been on balance, a positive force in the world. But it's also a religion that is, in large part, created and propagated by imperfect human beings and is imperfect. Religions aren't revealed and stay the way they are. They change as times change.

Darwin said what he said because he didn't have access to twentieth century science. Modern science does point towards a singular ancestor, whether or not that means some apes in Africa or Adam. By the way, I believe that the first 12 chapters of Genesis are essentially myth, which is not to say they are without value. Myths are an essential part of any religion and many non-religious viewpoints. They can tell us a lot about a society and some moral truths at the same time.

And that quote had to do with unbelievers, or non-Christians, true. Nothing to do with race, for one thing. And during Paul's time, most Christians WERE of Jewish background. Furthermore, Jews and Christians worship the same God and revere the same holy texts. Christianity came out of Judaism, so an assault on Judaism is really an assault on Christianity as well. Paul argued that the Torah laws shouldn't bind non-Jewish Christians, who did eventually become the majority, but he was of Jewish descent himself and seems to have personally followed Torah regulations.

And who's ahead of the game? I suggest you read a book called 'Guns, Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond that gives a lot of explanation of why it was Europe, and not, say, Africa or Asia that emerged as the huge colonial power. Admittedly, he focuses a bit too much on the environmental, rather than some of the cultural explanations, but it's not a matter of racial superiority.

Ironically, the 'superior' Europeans managed to colonize the Americas in large part because they were filthy and disease-ridden by comparison to Native peoples. Some 90% of the America's native population was killed off within a few centuries of contact, mostly because of disease. I won't list them because it's basically every infectious disease that would come to mind, most notoriously smallpox, but there's a lot of them.

Furthermore, if you're going to mention IQ tests or something like that, IQ isn't an exact measurement of intelligence. Its value is rather in question, and there's a lot of refutations of those classic findings, in which blacks are found to have lower IQ's. For one thing, education factors into IQ tests, and on average, African-Americans, especially back in the day when these studies were taken, didn't have access to the same educational opportunities as Americans of European descent.

An example of how a cultural change can effect these things is best used taken Asians. Early IQ tests among Asian-Americans (although I'm sure the researchers called them all number of epithets behind their backs) showed that they had an IQ rather lower than the average for 'whites' (about 90 or so, and I'll get to this in a moment). Modern IQ testing tends to show an average IQ slightly higher (about 102-105) than the 'white' average (100).

I think education in large part, as well as the relative lessening of prejudice explains this dramatic change in IQ tests. I feel that a test comparing middle-class African-Americans to middle-class European-Americans (might as well use the same terminology) would not show a very different result, if at all. Testing poor kids from the ghettos with rich kids in $15,000 a year private schools is patently unfair.

By the way, the highest scores on IQ tests, flawed as they are, are among Ashkenazic Jews (European Jews, making up almost all American Jews) at about 110-115, or about one average deviation above the mean. I don't think this means that Jewish people are smarter as much as it signifies the great importance placed on learning by them. Although one might argue that you'd have to be smart in able to survive the czar, Hitler and modern anti-Semites and prosper in spite of them.

And now, to 'whiteness'. Well, that was and is an idea in flux. What makes a person 'white'? European ancestry? Well, in the 19th century in the United States, there was considerable debate over whether Hungarians, South Italians or even the Irish should be considered 'white'. In modern Haiti, someone much darker than your (former now?) Secretary of State Colin Powell might be called 'white'. The 'one drop' rule is an American concept and doesn't follow in many other societies. Race is as much a social concept as a biological one, probably more so.
Nordrreich
15-12-2004, 22:08
At least most of those start out as being somewhat political, this is the strangest thread I have ever seen.

From why are white people uncool, to did the jews kill jesus.

I cannot think of a logical connection. :confused:

Because once you start poking at the concept of race, it will inevitably get out of control. Because it's still a hot-button issue in much of the world, and is spreading as global populations become more mixed worldwide. Someone will mention something in passing and we will go after it like pirahnas go after wounded cattle in the river.
UpwardThrust
15-12-2004, 22:09
Because once you start poking at the concept of race, it will inevitably get out of control. Because it's still a hot-button issue in much of the world, and is spreading as global populations become more mixed worldwide. Someone will mention something in passing and we will go after it like pirahnas go after wounded cattle in the river.
Mmmm cattle
*goes running for a hamburger*
Neon Frost
15-12-2004, 23:00
Being Jewish, I resent that comment.

And by the way no one has answered my question, with a real answer.

Well, Racist question are hard to answer... And anyway, you hate it how he made fun of your religion while you just said all whites are un-cool... I think your a Racist A-hole....


~NF
Kahta
15-12-2004, 23:06
Because your sick definition of cool involves beating women, doing drugs, raping, murdering, drive bys, and generally breaking the law, knocking up lots of "hoes" and not taking care of the results (raising the kids)


To me cool is being responsible, law-abiding, taking care of your responsibilities, raising your family the right way, and being a good Christian.

100% agreement
Kahta
15-12-2004, 23:07
I agree with those who say that this thread is becoming somewhat nauseating. Firstly, 'coolness' is a subjective, socially defined adjective and individual value can only be judged on the individual level. Around where I live, the quintissential minority are Native Canadians (about 15% of the city's population), we only have a few hundred blacks, maybe five hundred or so Asians and maybe five Jewish families. I live in a small city in Manitoba, so that's the context I am typing from.

Secondly, 'race' is as much of a social concept as it is biological, in fact, the whole notion of biological races is dubious at best. The genetic relationships of different human populations is considerably more complex than black, or white, or yellow, what have you. Furthermore, if you believe in evolution, the cradle of humanity was Africa (Tanzania to be specific), so at one point, the entire human race was black. The reason why some people have what we call 'white' or 'black' racial characteristics is due to (on the evolutionary scale) last-minute adjustments to adapt to environments.

The reason why black people are 'black' (or dark brown) is due to melanin production, which is natural sunblock. Caucasians are paler due to living in colder climates and pale skin absorbs Vitamin D more readily from sunlight, which is sometimes at a premium in the winter. People of European descent tend to be hairier than others due to colder climates. None of this has a major effect on individual human value. It just means black people might not have to slather on the sunscreen as much as I might.

And about the Jews and Jesus ... that's only one way to read the Bible, and that's only if you read it as absolute, inerrant fact, which I don't. Jesus's teachings are rooted heavily in Judaism and Christianity only became seperate from Judaism later when people like Paul began to convert Gentiles (or non-Jews). Secondly, the Gospel of Matthew, probably the most anti-Semitic (in our modern perception) of the Gospels, was written right after the Christians were removed from the synagogues. Because, before then, it was understood that the Christians, or Nazarenes, were a Jewish sect.

Furthermore, about that claim of Jews being the 'children of Satan', firstly, I don't take the Bible as inerrant, secondly, could the 'children of Satan' have contributed as much to our society as the Jews have? In spite of millennia of presecution, the Jewish faith (or people, because what makes one Jewish is a very complicated matter) has contributed enormously to our society.

I believe that Jesus was in fact Jewish and resent the fact that this logical fact has to be 'covered up'. In any case, he was raised in a Jewish family and lived and died as a practicing Jew in Palestine, ie, Jewish central. If he wasn't Jewish and not meant to teach to primarily Jews, why Palestine and not, say, Rome?

Did the Jews kill him? Well, the answer isn't exactly 'no', the truth is that Jesus was executed by a segment of the Jewish temple elite, plus some Pharisees (not all of them), but that Pilate had to at least give passive acquisance to his execution. All of the players involved lived in the 1st century CE and it's stupid to blame modern Jews for an execution, one of about 100,000 in that area in that century.

Furthermore, I thought the belief of practicing Christians was that Jesus died for the redemption of humanity, that our sins made his death necessary. Did he not say, 'forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do?' (if mostly about the Roman centurions) If that is the fact, then nobody and everybody was responsible for his death. And we should be forgiving not only Pilate and Caiaphas but also Judas, who, if this is true, was a tool of fate.

Oh yeah, and I think using Jesus's life and teachings to justify race-based hatred is absolutely nauseating. And now, brothers and sisters in NationStates, I would like to close this rambling sermon with a quote from the Apostle Paul.

For through faith you are all of God in union with Christ Jesus. There is no such thing as Jew and Greek, slave and freeman, male and female; for all of you are one person in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:26, 3:28)

PS- Am I the only person who is disturbed that the Roman Empire was a less racist society than modern America?


Granted, eveyone was either following the Roman's religion, or Jewish law. Its the oldest religion.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 23:09
Well, Racist question are hard to answer... And anyway, you hate it how he made fun of your religion while you just said all whites are un-cool... I think your a Racist A-hole....


~NF

That was quite a first post. Brought the "Racist A-hole" hammer down.
Independence Land
15-12-2004, 23:43
Whoa Nellie!

We're not "guilty" of his death. His death and sacrifice were a GIFT FROM GOD. You're not supposed to feel guilty about it.

I wonder if you feel guilty when people give you presents on your birthday.

Well thats another way to look at it and i don't disagree one bit. My point is that our sin drove God to such an extreme as sacrificing his son to save us and that is what we are guilty of. It is no doubt Jesus' gift to us.
Defensor Fidei
15-12-2004, 23:48
Why do people have problems comprehending the fact that the Jews are responsible for the murder of Christ and His blood is upon their hands?
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 23:51
Why do people have problems comprehending the fact that the Jews are responsible for the murder of Christ and His blood is upon their hands?

Not true, in those times, religious executions were taken out through stoning. Crucifixion was almost solely used for political execution. It was the Romans who were fearful of Jesus leading an uprising in Israel.
Defensor Fidei
15-12-2004, 23:53
Not true, in those times, religious executions were taken out through stoning. Crucifixion was almost solely used for political execution. It was the Romans who were fearful of Jesus leading an uprising in Israel.
It is you is wrong. The Jews are responsible for His murder.

And the whole people answering, cried out: His blood be upon us and on our children. --St. Matthew xxviiXXV
Indiru
15-12-2004, 23:53
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?

First off: how do you define cool? By my definition, Eminem is the epitomy of loserishness.

Second: I'l tell you why white people aren't cool. It's because the MAN is ALWAYS tryin' to put the white man down. Yes, that's right. The man.

Personally, I think white people are uncool because American "white culture" has spread so blandly and has been the majority here for ages that it really has no real individuality anymore. Smaller minorities tend to have closer knit and different customs and traditions, and the youth is willing to take anything other than golf and mayonnaise. I mean come on, even us Jews are becoming cool!
Indiru
15-12-2004, 23:57
It is you is wrong. The Jews are responsible for His murder.

And the whole people answering, cried out: His blood be upon us and on our children. --St. Matthew xxviiXXV


Don't believe everything you read. So therefore Moses is a criminal? Abraham? Jesus himself? They're all Jews ya know.

Guess what. Yesterday I drank a kilo of alcohol then had premarital sex with a woman (had to get the homo factor in), used G-d's name in vain while running around naked smiting people, sacrificed a chicken to the devil, and I'm 1/2 Jewish 1/4 Muslim and 1/4 Pagan.
Nick topia
15-12-2004, 23:59
The reason that white people are so uncool is that we have been responsible for almost every bad thing that has ever happened in the history of the world. Think about it for a second, slavery- white people, the holocaust- white people, almost every major war ever- white people.
Vittos Ordination
15-12-2004, 23:59
It is you is wrong. The Jews are responsible for His murder.

And the whole people answering, cried out: His blood be upon us and on our children. --St. Matthew xxviiXXV

Terrific evidence.
Defensor Fidei
16-12-2004, 00:04
Terrific evidence.
Inerrant in fact.
Kiembul
16-12-2004, 00:06
"Cool" originated as a buzz word in Jazz about 50 years ago along with other "hip" words that were unique to that culture. That culture was almost entirely a black institution. This is not to mean that whites didn't have their say. Men like Gil Evans and Gerry Mulligan proved to be a large part of that Jazz movement, and were, in fact, involved in the "Birth of the Cool" along with Miles Davis and company.

So, why are white people uncool?

Because I'm white and I'm responding seriously to a frighteningly un-serious topic on an Internet message board about why I'm uncool.

...and my car would look stupid with 22 inch rims.
Indiru
16-12-2004, 00:11
http://www.kingidentity.com/comic.gif

Oy vey. I mean where's my part of the world domination share? I've been waiting for my paycheck for adding to the brainwashing thing by being Jewish, but it's not in the mail! It's definitely screwed up.

Gibson's Father Convinces Jews To Give Up World Control


Despite the bizarre tenor of recent world events, sometimes parody is still stranger than truth.



By Dan Barash

Bowing to intense pressure from Mel Gibson's father, Jews announced today that they would no longer control the world. In a press release, Jews stated, "Although we have thoroughly enjoyed the challenges of world domination for the last 300 years, we feel it's time for gentiles to take control of their own affairs. We plan to spend more time with our families and pursue other interests."

Hutton Gibson stated he was pleased with the announcement, but expressed concern he was losing a scapegoat for all of his problems. He said he would be launching a search for a new minority group to demonize.

Many Jews expressed relief that they could give up burdensome responsibilities. Retired accountant Jerry Friedman, who controls all media in Montana, said, "I would just as well let the citizens of Montana manage their own TV and newspapers. Don't get me wrong, Montana is a fine state. But it gets awfully cold, and there's nowhere to get a good bagel."

Attorney Allen Franks said he's glad he no longer has to manage Bulgarian monetary policy. "It was getting to be quite a hassle," he said. "I already have a full time job and can't even balance my own checkbook, let alone control the finances of an entire nation."

Homemaker Judith Levine said she would "...miss the hustle and bustle of setting the international price for magnesium every day. But my son is about to be Bar Mitzvah'd, and oy! Such a party we're gonna have you wouldn't believe!"

Hollywood producer Sidney Greenbaum was pessimistic about the announcement. "Do you really think goyim know how to make movies?" he asked. "They'll all end up being high budget, technicolor snuff flicks if you leave things up to Mel and his kind."

Comedy experts expressed concern that the business would suffer if Jews suddenly withdrew. According to one insider, "Take away all the Jewish comics and writers, and all you have left is Carrot Top. That's not a world I want to live in."

A potluck dinner in honor of Jews' contributions to mankind will be held at the Hoboken Holiday Inn on April 3. All gentiles are welcome to attend. Participants will be encouraged to share an offensive Jewish joke.
Nekonokuni
16-12-2004, 00:35
No cool white folks? James Dean - considered by many to have been the posterchild of cool.

Thing is, coolness is a subjective trait. What makes somebody cool, depends on who the observer is. I, for example, find most rappers to be living embodiments of uncoolness. The Mediaeval Baebes, on the other hand, I'd place well beyond simple coolness.
All the Germans
16-12-2004, 00:50
This all a bunch of racist bullshit. Why are "white" people so "uncool"? What the Hell? Eminem...please. The only "cool" people that are "white" are redneck white trash, as it seems as though your definition of "cool" is anyone who anyone who is worthless ghetto and(or) trailer trash. Anyone who is like that is a discredit to their race, whatever it may be. This is wht leads to the prejudice stereotyping of people of certain ethnicities. I´m sure that well-educated blacks with good taste don´t enjoy being stereotyped as many are. And Hispanics. The Hispanic people are supposed to be a bold and noble race of many talents. Yet, those ratfink drunkards thugs drag their race´s name through the mud. It really makes me sick. And you, Mr. Piquantrax. Would you like to be stereotyped as an eagle-nosed "schmuck" with overly curled hair, with no class, and an obnoxious nasal voice? This is really, really sad. :(
All the Germans
16-12-2004, 00:53
No cool white folks? James Dean - considered by many to have been the posterchild of cool.

Thing is, coolness is a subjective trait. What makes somebody cool, depends on who the observer is. I, for example, find most rappers to be living embodiments of uncoolness. The Mediaeval Baebes, on the other hand, I'd place well beyond simple coolness.

This is something like I WAS going to say, but I´m in a rather irritable mood today. Anyways, I agree with what what´s his face is saying here.
All the Germans
16-12-2004, 00:59
First off: how do you define cool? By my definition, Eminem is the epitomy of loserishness.

Second: I'l tell you why white people aren't cool. It's because the MAN is ALWAYS tryin' to put the white man down. Yes, that's right. The man.

Personally, I think white people are uncool because American "white culture" has spread so blandly and has been the majority here for ages that it really has no real individuality anymore. Smaller minorities tend to have closer knit and different customs and traditions, and the youth is willing to take anything other than golf and mayonnaise. I mean come on, even us Jews are becoming cool!

Oh my God...are you ACTUALLY saying that in general, white people are....spit...American?! Hell, there are other "white" peoples out there other than descendants of British Taliban (pilgrims) and criminals.

Europeans, Arabs, Canadians, Russians, British Australians....I could go on and on....
Defensor Fidei
16-12-2004, 01:00
Oh my God...are you ACTUALLY saying that in general, white people are....spit...American?! Hell, there are other "white" peoples out there other than descendants of British Taliban (pilgrims) and criminals.

Europeans, Arabs, Canadians, Russians, British Australians....I could go on and on....
Umm, Arabs are NOT WHITE.
Goed Twee
16-12-2004, 01:06
Inerrant in fact.

No it's not.

(I've always wanted to do this. Just deny everything they say. I wonder how this will turn out?)
Indiru
16-12-2004, 01:13
Oh my God...are you ACTUALLY saying that in general, white people are....spit...American?! Hell, there are other "white" peoples out there other than descendants of British Taliban (pilgrims) and criminals.

Europeans, Arabs, Canadians, Russians, British Australians....I could go on and on....

I was talking about American white culture, I didn't say that only the only white culture there is is American. *points to post* Maybe you should read a tad more closely.
Indiru
16-12-2004, 01:14
Umm, Arabs are NOT WHITE.

No, just yo cracka ass.
Defensor Fidei
16-12-2004, 01:15
No it's not.

(I've always wanted to do this. Just deny everything they say. I wonder how this will turn out?)
Yes, it is.

(Very well then....)
Goed Twee
16-12-2004, 01:20
Yes, it is.

(Very well then....)

Prove it ;)
Right-Wing America
16-12-2004, 01:34
wow. what an accurate source. (how does one do the rolly-eye emoticon?)

that passage came from the bible moron....
Vittos Ordination
16-12-2004, 01:38
that passage came from the bible moron....

That may be the point. The people who wrote the Bible wouldn't have anything to gain by stretching the truth and just plain making shit up now would they?
Defensor Fidei
16-12-2004, 01:52
The Holy Bible is completely inerrant as protected by the Ghost.
Peechland
16-12-2004, 01:54
wow- we are still on how uncool white folks are!

Fonzy.........now he was cool. Poor Potsy was NOT.
Kahta
16-12-2004, 02:19
The reason that white people are so uncool is that we have been responsible for almost every bad thing that has ever happened in the history of the world. Think about it for a second, slavery- white people, the holocaust- white people, almost every major war ever- white people.

ANd if you think about it, only white people have developed technology capable of war. It wasn't black or asian scientists that made The Bomb, or any technology for that matter.
Steel Butterfly
16-12-2004, 02:30
My question is this:
What is it that makes white people uncool? Eminem seems to be the exception, but other than that, why is it that white people can't be cool?

So Eminem's the coolest "white person" alive? God help us all. If you aren't white, keep your racism to yourself. I know you hate it when we use it on you. If you are white, stop being a fucking wigger and embrace your own culture.
Defensor Fidei
16-12-2004, 02:32
So Eminem's the coolest "white person" alive? God help us all. If you aren't white, keep your racism to yourself. I know you hate it when we use it on you. If you are white, stop being a fucking wigger and embrace your own culture.
He is a Jew- that could certainly be dangerous.
Indiru
16-12-2004, 02:38
that passage came from the bible moron....

Since when is the Bible a credible source?
Indiru
16-12-2004, 02:39
He is a Jew- that could certainly be dangerous.

Eminem is definitely not a Jew.

Do you consider everyone bad a Jew?

If so, are those child raping Catholic priests Jews?
Defensor Fidei
16-12-2004, 02:48
Eminem is definitely not a Jew.

Do you consider everyone bad a Jew?

If so, are those child raping Catholic priests Jews?
Piquantrax has admitted to being a Jew.
And no Catholic priests have been "child raping."
Indiru
16-12-2004, 02:53
Piquantrax has admitted to being a Jew.
And no Catholic priests have been "child raping."

What does that have to do with Eminem?

And if you say no Catholic priests have been child raping, you are more delusional than I thought.

http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/2/hi/americas/3872499.stm

FYI, I "admit" to being a Jew, and I'm PROUD.
Defensor Fidei
16-12-2004, 03:02
What does that have to do with Eminem?

And if you say no Catholic priests have been child raping, you are more delusional than I thought.

http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/2/hi/americas/3872499.stm

FYI, I "admit" to being a Jew, and I'm PROUD.
Those aren't Catholic priests....
ThePhimoticRing
16-12-2004, 03:07
I feel sorry for the dumbass who made this topic.