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Thrashia
05-12-2004, 13:47
got so pissed off I didn't even read it all.
St Heliers
05-12-2004, 13:47
What your saying is an insult to the 8 million men who died to free Europe from the Terranical reign of a mad mass murderer. And this is even a bigger insult to the 16 million that Hitler had murdered in his concentration camps! If you want proof i GIVE YOU PROOF! I'M LIVING IN WARSAW,POLAND AT THE MOMENT, YOU WALK DOWN TO OLD TOWN WHERE THE POLSIH REISTANCE WAS SLAUGHTERED BY THE NAZIS, AND LET SLAUGHTERED BY THE RUSSIANS WHO SAT AND WATCHED FROM ACROSS THE RIVER, YOU COME HERE AND SEE ALL THE CANDLES THAT BURN IN HONOR FO THEIR SACRIFICE; YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN AN IDIOT BLINDED BY WHAT YOU THINK IS PROPAGANDA! FAKED! HOW IS THE DEATH OF BOTH MY GRANDFATHERS, AND 5 OF MY GREAT UNCLES IN WWII FAKE, I SUPPOSE THEY REALLY SAT IN AMERICA JUST HIDDING FROM THEIR FAMILIES AND THE ARMY TOLD THEM THEIR DEAD, IS THAT IT!?! HUH? OR IS IT MY NEIGHBOR ALFRED JOWORSKI WHO WAS 7 YEARS OLD IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP WITH HIS ARM TATOOED A LYER TOO!!?

I ask you, have you not seen the pictures. the bodies piled higher than a grown man. Of the cattle trains that took them to their last resting place. The trucks with their exaust pipes pulled up into the sealed back where Jews would die from the fumes? How can you say that it was all fake? I've walked the cemetaries seeing the tombs of those who died giving their dreams and hopes up in return for peace for their children. I pity you. For you have been blinded to what is the truth and therefore at a loss of what our grandfathers fought for and died for. Yes I pity you, I only hope that one day you will open your eyes, and if this is just some spam, well you put it in the wrong forum.

was this the kind of reaction u wanted, if so then its sad
RavensburK
05-12-2004, 13:47
Yes, we had fun... it was a pleasure to have a heated debate with someone so well informed, although I do feel slightly cheated...
Well, here in New Zealand it is one in the morning, so thats probably why mister st. helieres is so pissed off...
St Heliers
05-12-2004, 13:48
Mr Lacadaemon,
what you have just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I've ever heard. at no point in your rambling, incoherent babblings did you ever come to anything that could be considered a rational thought. We are all now dumber for having read it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
lmao
New British Glory
05-12-2004, 13:49
Well it didn't. As we all know it was faked up as part of a leftist crypto fascist conspiracy.

But that is not really what interests me here, I am now gathering evidence that world war two was faked.

So far my results are pretty conclusive. I think at this point it is safe to say that the whole thing was pre-arranged by the powers that be in order to make it look like there was some form of "global" conflict between the major powers. But really what was the result. At the end of the day, pretty, much everyone ended up where they were before the war, so what was the point?

I'll tell you, it was a crypto fascist plot to justify the increase in government authority. Prove me wrong.

You, sir, have no honour, no decency and no compassion. You are a cynic of the worst kind.

If you want proof of World War 2 then I advise you ask the veterans who were there. Ask them if their friends deaths were faked. Ask them if the battles they were in were faked, Ask them if the blood they gave in defence of their country was fake.

God Damn you
St Heliers
05-12-2004, 13:49
Yes, we had fun... it was a pleasure to have a heated debate with someone so well informed, although I do feel slightly cheated...
Well, here in New Zealand it is one in the morning, so thats probably why mister st. helieres is so pissed off...
its almost 2
Superpower07
05-12-2004, 13:50
I really should have reported this to Moderation *but I'll do it now*

EDIT: Somebody beat me to it, good for them
RavensburK
05-12-2004, 13:50
By the by, next time you probably should pick something less offensive, I can understand why some people are completely hacked off, but I couldn't care less... but anyway, there are people who think that, and they deserve to be made fun of
Lacadaemon
05-12-2004, 13:51
true, but ur lucky im on my holiday or else i'd come over there (whereever u r) and kick ur arse

If you spend any time on this board you will soon realize that most threads are BUSHSUX &ct. And no-one will ever change their mind, and it becomes quite unpleasant.

I'm just trying to provide an alternative. Silly argument for fun. (World War II was fake for god's sake, I think I did a good job though).

As part of the credit, I have to thank Brittanic States for the idea for this thread. If any of you all have other good ones, please TM me.
St Heliers
05-12-2004, 13:51
Ok People

Lacademon Was Doing This For The Hell Of Doing It And To Annoy People, Or To Beat Some Record Of Wateva, He Doesn't Mean That Shit He's Been Spouting
St Heliers
05-12-2004, 13:52
If you spend any time on this board you will soon realize that most threads are BUSHSUX &ct. And no-one will ever change their mind, and it becomes quite unpleasant.

I'm just trying to provide an alternative. Silly argument for fun. (World War II was fake for god's sake, I think I did a good job though).

As part of the credit, I have to thank Brittanic States for the idea for this thread. If any of you all have other good ones, please TM me.

its still a waste of my time which i could have used to look up porn
Thrashia
05-12-2004, 13:52
This is a very good thinkg to be hacked off about....you dont just call a war where over 20 million people died in a fake thing...you just dont...do it...(mad beyond belief :mad: )
Lacadaemon
05-12-2004, 13:57
This is a very good thinkg to be hacked off about....you dont just call a war where over 20 million people died in a fake thing...you just dont...do it...(mad beyond belief :mad: )

56 actually. (at least)

not 20.
Lacadaemon
05-12-2004, 13:58
its still a waste of my time which i could have used to look up porn

Aww, you can look up porn anytime. This was funner.

Someone actually reported me in moderation :mad:
RavensburK
05-12-2004, 13:59
I should like to be a median...
Yes this thread insulted and pissed off alot of people, and for that you have a right to be angry...
But c'mon, this was an alternative to the same old arguments that always appear, and for those who are interested in history, much of what was said is quite interesting and in this world of uncertainty it is good to have something that we can all feel passionate about and rally togeather under the same banner against those goddam conspiricy thories of which there are many...
so c'mon, dont let anger get the better of you... I was pissed of aswell
Lacadaemon
05-12-2004, 14:03
I could have just started another stupid abortion thread. Because that one is never discussed ton the point of inflexible stupidity.

At least people got to stretch the old brain with this one.
RavensburK
05-12-2004, 14:08
I'm not sure how many peopple stretched their brain, the war obviously was not a farce, and anyone saying otherwise is a cold harted, insensitive, increadibly stupid prick, but there is no denying it caused us some deep thought on the matter, although I am sure none of us ever actually started to believe...
St Heliers
05-12-2004, 14:10
well it was fun i'll give u that
Lord Ganja
05-12-2004, 14:19
Hands up to Lacadaemon, long time since I had so much fun reading a thread!
First of all, I truly belive that one can joke about everything, even AIDS, cancer and other really horrible things, not to mock the people affected but to stay sane at times.

Secondly, this argument was VERY well built, on both sides and those who did not resort to flaming may very well be the great leaders of tomorrow;)
Atleast they can debate for their beliefs haha...

Only sad thing was the title of the thread, somewhat misguiding since the theme wasn't the usual neo-nazi-holocaust-never-happened-crap but instead a smart conspiracy theory(oh, can't help but love them, can you?;))

Next time something like this is up, I really hope I'm in time to join!

/Adam.
RavensburK
05-12-2004, 14:23
Thankyou, someone not chained down by political correctness, yet still has a sane head on his shoulders. I'm glad the whole thread didn't get too out of habd though...
Lacadaemon
05-12-2004, 14:26
Hands up to Lacadaemon, long time since I had so much fun reading a thread!
First of all, I truly belive that one can joke about everything, even AIDS, cancer and other really horrible things, not to mock the people affected but to stay sane at times.

Secondly, this argument was VERY well built, on both sides and those who did not resort to flaming may very well be the great leaders of tomorrow;)
Atleast they can debate for their beliefs haha...

Only sad thing was the title of the thread, somewhat misguiding since the theme wasn't the usual neo-nazi-holocaust-never-happened-crap but instead a smart conspiracy theory(oh, can't help but love them, can you?;))

Next time something like this is up, I really hope I'm in time to join!

/Adam.


Yeah, like I said, I do regret the title. The marketing was too agressive I think.

Other than that though I think the substantial debate about WWII worked out really well. Lots of good points from both sides.
Yotimmoto
05-12-2004, 14:35
Well you are right, WWII was a conpiracy, ahh the definition of conpiracy, its an EVENT caused by 2 or more people, conpiracy is the wrong word.
so yeah, your right, it was a conpiracy hitler and his party caused it by burning down the reichtag and making himself a dictator.
what a prat, glad hes dead, but i wont go there, you guys will say its a conpiracy, yes well it was, he and his wife did it, remember, 2 or more people.
i really think that anyone who can say that the massacring of an ethnic group because they are different is a lie, reall REALLY must have a screw loose
Takuma
05-12-2004, 15:00
After reading two pages (for everone else, about 5), I really don't think you get the point of his argument. (I do not agree, however)

What he's saying is that all the leaders (Hitler, Rosevealt, French guy, British guy, etc.) all got together and said "hey, let's have a war! You can kill people, boost the economy, and it'll make people scared forever!" Then the war happened exactly as it does in the history books. It's just that it was planned out before hand, as someone said, like Pro Wrestling. What they do is real, but it was planned out beforehands.

(Again, I do not agree with this assumption.)
Kramers Intern
05-12-2004, 15:05
Well it didn't. As we all know it was faked up as part of a leftist crypto fascist conspiracy.

But that is not really what interests me here, I am now gathering evidence that world war two was faked.

So far my results are pretty conclusive. I think at this point it is safe to say that the whole thing was pre-arranged by the powers that be in order to make it look like there was some form of "global" conflict between the major powers. But really what was the result. At the end of the day, pretty, much everyone ended up where they were before the war, so what was the point?

I'll tell you, it was a crypto fascist plot to justify the increase in government authority. Prove me wrong.

Yeah it was faked that explains how my Uncles father was killed and never found.
Lacadaemon
05-12-2004, 15:19
Yeah it was faked that explains how my Uncles father was killed and never found.

You could at least read the thread.
Katganistan
05-12-2004, 15:37
You may have disagreed with Lacadaemon's hypothesis, which was presented neutrally, as early posters did by ridiculing it by citing every tin-foil-hat-the-aliens-are-among-us conspiracy conceivable.

Some of you chose instead to make personal attacks.

For the billionth time -- attack the ISSUE, not the POSTER. Gather your evidence and have at it, but DO NOT FLAME.
Brittanic States
05-12-2004, 16:00
Props to ya Lacadaemon I wasnt sure you would do it :D
West Pacific
05-12-2004, 19:32
If you spend any time on this board you will soon realize that most threads are BUSHSUX &ct. And no-one will ever change their mind, and it becomes quite unpleasant.

I'm just trying to provide an alternative. Silly argument for fun. (World War II was fake for god's sake, I think I did a good job though).

As part of the credit, I have to thank Brittanic States for the idea for this thread. If any of you all have other good ones, please TM me.

Yes, you did a very good job, you made some very good arguments and had me scratching my head as to whether you were serious or joking several times. I had never heard anybody try to argue that WWII was faked before so naturally I was expecting you to be joking, but when you actually seemed to be defending yourself I got a little nervous, the holocaust thing though, I have seen so many arguments that were written and presented much better that I did not think you wholely believed it yourself. Touche.
Akka-Akka
05-12-2004, 19:51
Well it didn't. As we all know it was faked up as part of a leftist crypto fascist conspiracy.

But that is not really what interests me here, I am now gathering evidence that world war two was faked.

So far my results are pretty conclusive. I think at this point it is safe to say that the whole thing was pre-arranged by the powers that be in order to make it look like there was some form of "global" conflict between the major powers. But really what was the result. At the end of the day, pretty, much everyone ended up where they were before the war, so what was the point?

I'll tell you, it was a crypto fascist plot to justify the increase in government authority. Prove me wrong.

You are a twat.
And a criminal if you live in the US - it's illegal to deny the Holocaust happened.

Explain books on the Holocaust with their accompanying pictures.
If it was a leftist plot, why were gypsies and homosexuals killed?
Against your points:
1) Buchenwald
2) War cemetaries
3) Hiroshima
4) Farmers ploughing up human remains across Europe and Russia to the present day
5) Film footage, and pictures of action.
6) Pearl Harbour
7) Nuremburg
8) MILLIONS of eye-witness accounts
9) The Blitz

Now if you'd like to prove your so called point with any real facts, it would give me great pleasure in ripping them apart.

Just for the record: what country do you live in, are you insane or on psycotropic drugs and what is your political alleigance?
Doom777
05-12-2004, 20:31
Well it didn't. As we all know it was faked up as part of a leftist crypto fascist conspiracy.

But that is not really what interests me here, I am now gathering evidence that world war two was faked.

So far my results are pretty conclusive. I think at this point it is safe to say that the whole thing was pre-arranged by the powers that be in order to make it look like there was some form of "global" conflict between the major powers. But really what was the result. At the end of the day, pretty, much everyone ended up where they were before the war, so what was the point?

I'll tell you, it was a crypto fascist plot to justify the increase in government authority. Prove me wrong.
Ok. there are people who escaped from the holocaust, and are alive now.
Boofheads
05-12-2004, 22:33
Well since this thread has now reached sixteen pages. I will tell you why it is a conspiracy.

I made it all up. (And beat my previous record of twelve pages).

Good job guys. It was fun.

Thanks for participating in my parody thread. You have to admit that is more fun than the usual abortion/god/ACLU crap.

Anyway, I enjoyed myself. I just wish I named the thread a little better. Too agressive with my marketing I think. I'll tey to be less offensive next time. In retrospect i regret starting with the holocaust.

Anyway I had fun though.

Hehe, I was wondering. That's so golden.

(from page 6)

... but I have a feeling you're just trolling us for fun.


I thought your topic title was fine, really. It was a little misleading to the actual thread, but it was a good hook to get people reading. What made me suspicious was that you seemed to know too much about the war. Most people who would claim something like this wouldn't actually know about the history (otherwise they wouldn't interpret it in that way) and would send his readers off to read some bogus website he stumbled upon that knows the real "truth". However, it was more fun for you to have several actual facts that backed up your claim. It was a good touch.

Maybe I'll wait a few weeks and start my own topic to see how many pages I can milk out of my flesh-eating rats theory.
Siljhouettes
05-12-2004, 22:59
At the end of the day, pretty, much everyone ended up where they were before the war, so what was the point?
This statement destroys your own argument. If you think that nobody ended up in a different place, then you must have a very America-centric worldview. Huge changes, mass migration, etc took place in central and eastern Europe.

The Jews ended up with a land to call their own home. Koreans and Chinese got independence from the uber-imperialist Japan.
Lupanzia
05-12-2004, 23:27
Oh yeah... and you might want to include the 6 million people who at one time were living on earth and are now not living at all.

I'm really not sure the purpose of this thread.

yes, I do believe that wars are created for economic reasons... BUT.... ww2 imparticular has been studied to death and it's pretty hard for a scandal of such major proportion like the one you're speaking of to get past the eyes of most researchers.

Overall, I think it might be a bit ignorant and highly offensive.
Rasputin the Thief
05-12-2004, 23:58
Well it didn't. As we all know it was faked up as part of a leftist crypto fascist conspiracy.

But that is not really what interests me here, I am now gathering evidence that world war two was faked.

So far my results are pretty conclusive. I think at this point it is safe to say that the whole thing was pre-arranged by the powers that be in order to make it look like there was some form of "global" conflict between the major powers. But really what was the result. At the end of the day, pretty, much everyone ended up where they were before the war, so what was the point?

I'll tell you, it was a crypto fascist plot to justify the increase in government authority. Prove me wrong.

both my grandfathers fought it. One as a polish soldiers, who eventually had to cross all europe and end up in France where he met my grandmother. The other was a french resistant.
2 months ago, my father gave the cross of the justs to a former hospital director. We met 3 survivors that were protected by that hospital director.
In Paris, where I live, we can see bullet impacts on many places.
I know many people who lost members of their family in that war.

Not everyone ended where they were before the war, have you saw the extension of the USSR? Germany lost all. Europe, which was rather rich before the war, lost its leader position in that conflict, to the USA. India gain its independance as a consequence of that war. Japan government system was completely changed, and it became under the orders of the USA for quite a long time.

Conclusion: you are completely dumb. Not talking about the death of almost 6million jews.
Johnistan
05-12-2004, 23:59
Clearly it did. I've spoken to people that went through it.
DeaconDave
06-12-2004, 00:18
You are a twat.
And a criminal if you live in the US - it's illegal to deny the Holocaust happened.



It's even more illegal to practice law without a license.
Rasputin the Thief
06-12-2004, 00:20
It's even more illegal to practice law without a license.

did he practice law? You're stupid, my poor friend.
The Force Majeure
06-12-2004, 00:21
Let's just let this thread die already.
Brittanic States
06-12-2004, 00:57
Let's just let this thread die already.
Nah its funny the amount of idiots that dont know its a joke and are clearly posting in it without reading the thread first.
Ratheia
06-12-2004, 01:08
Oh yeah... and you might want to include the 6 million people who at one time were living on earth and are now not living at all.


And that's just those Jews, folks!

We still have to count the rest! Lile the 20-30 Million Soviets who died!
Brittanic States
06-12-2004, 01:09
Fucking hell see what I mean?
Poptartrea
06-12-2004, 01:11
Just to be fair, I've never personally observed the Holocaust so I can't say it actually happened. Ditto WW2, ditto the existance of Europe, ditto the existance of all of you. However, even if it didn't happen we should still learn its potentially fictional lesson.
General Fran the Red
06-12-2004, 01:18
Nah its funny the amount of idiots that dont know its a joke and are clearly posting in it without reading the thread first.

Kinda sick and sad to joke about stuff like this.

Well, I guess whoever started this thread (and those who continued its themology) wanted attention, and they got it.

Each to their own I guess. Its twisted, but far more than that, its just sad
Tilus
06-12-2004, 01:25
Personally, I believe in the "Matrix" theory of existance. In actuallity, none of us are really experiencing anything. Everything we think we feel and see are actually electronic impulses inserted in our brain through a complex network of computer code and programming. Robots are currently ruling the world and it is closer to the year 2280 then 2004. As for the occurrence of war, it is my personal theory that war in the computer "Matrix" sense was created by the robots as a sort of system purge. It is used by the robots as a way to completely clense all of the "problematic" humans...

Not really. Actually I'm sickened that anyone would even think of starting a topic of this offensive nature. To deny that millions and millions of people died under the whim of government officials is proposterous. To deny outright that millions of Jews where tortured and systematically murdered because their leader felt it would be beneficial to them in some way is criminal. The fact that you are insinuating that noone was really effected by the war is also intirely insane and unfounded.

FUCK YOU.
Brittanic States
06-12-2004, 01:27
Kinda sick and sad to joke about stuff like this.

Well, I guess whoever started this thread (and those who continued its themology) wanted attention, and they got it.

Each to their own I guess. Its twisted, but far more than that, its just sad
Hey dont blame me, I didnt start the thread, I merely laughed at it.
Brittanic States
06-12-2004, 01:28
Personally, I believe in the "Matrix" theory of existance. In actuallity, none of us are really experiencing anything. Everything we think we feel and see are actually electronic impulses inserted in our brain through a complex network of computer code and programming. Robots are currently ruling the world and it is closer to the year 2280 then 2004. As for the occurrence of war, it is my personal theory that war in the computer "Matrix" sense was created by the robots as a sort of system purge. It is used by the robots as a way to completely clense all of the "problematic" humans...

Not really. Actually I'm sickened that anyone would even think of starting a topic of this offensive nature. To deny that millions and millions of people died under the whim of government officials is proposterous. To deny outright that millions of Jews where tortured and systematically murdered because their leader felt it would be beneficial to them in some way is criminal. The fact that you are insinuating that noone was really effected by the war is also intirely insane and unfounded.

FUCK YOU.
Make this man a mod!
Prosh Vector
06-12-2004, 01:30
I know everyone in the world are not rational-thinking people and Nationstates.net seems to draw out the most insane and rediculous of the world and put them together in one big happy place.

WWII, as it is known, generally, was as real as it gets. "Pre-arranged"? Well, in a sence that is quite true: Adolph Hitler definitely had every intention of going to war with every country in the world, that was totally pre-arranged and outlined in his autobiography, "Mein Kampf". The "holocaust" (mass extermination of Jews and others), as is is generally known, ABSOLUTELY happened! Over ten million people were murdered under the bloody fist of Hitler, again, as he said he wanted to do in "Mein Kampf".
The Japanese emporer was pretty dead set on taking over the Pacific, then the United States. Their ambassadors and diplomats were sitting at the "peace" table while their own navy steamed ahead to kill Americans at Pearl Harbor. The U.S. joined the war in Europe as the Japs and the Germans were in a buddy-buddy kind of relationship and Hitler was really being an asshole.
I really don't see how the Germans could have been in on any "arrangement", they lost, BIGTIME. The U.S. was elevated to most-powerful-nation status and the USSR got kudos; the Japs would have been screwed if the Americans had simply left them to fend for themselves after the war. Instead we occupied for a few years, got some infrastructure set up and, for the most part, left nice and quietly (letting them take over the electronics industry was kind of an accident, I think).

In closing: The original thread poster is a blithering idiot and can't possibly be serious.
SCO-land
06-12-2004, 01:39
In closing: The original thread poster is a blithering idiot and can't possibly be serious.
And now also a criminal in a great many of nations, real and NS.
Indiru
06-12-2004, 01:46
Well it didn't. As we all know it was faked up as part of a leftist crypto fascist conspiracy.

But that is not really what interests me here, I am now gathering evidence that world war two was faked.

So far my results are pretty conclusive. I think at this point it is safe to say that the whole thing was pre-arranged by the powers that be in order to make it look like there was some form of "global" conflict between the major powers. But really what was the result. At the end of the day, pretty, much everyone ended up where they were before the war, so what was the point?

I'll tell you, it was a crypto fascist plot to justify the increase in government authority. Prove me wrong.

So if it was fake where did most of my family go? Did they disappear off the face of the planet?

Listen, I've been to Auschwitz (not as a concentration camp survivor...I'm 14) but I doubt that those "hippie leftists" would go so far out of their way to get put in a show case a fraction of the tons of human hair, glasses, and shoes from those 6 million people.

My grandmother's friends have shown me their tattoos and scars. How much more proof do you need than 6 million people disappearing? Were they abducted by aliens? Or was it this:

http://www.warfoto.com/bh165a.jpg

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/core/pics/0255/img0036.jpg

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/railton/enam312/1945pic.jpg

http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/actvssurgconvol2/chapter2figure122.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wear/features/2003/11/images/leonnumber_150.jpg

http://www.unitedscripters.com/writings/terezincamp.jpg

http://www.czech-tv.cz/program/porady/1069676337/foto/08.jpg

http://www.africa2000.com/XNDX/meinkampf/hitler.jpg

?

This amazes me. It truly does. Really. Pat yourself on the back, asshole. If you say something didn't happen, it never happened right? Hence what my grandparents told their children, what my parents told me, and what I will tell my children: "Never Again".

So rant all your neo nazi shit you want, but I can tell you, promise you, in fact, that the Holocaust in any race or religion, as long as I'm alive will never ever happen again.
Queensland Ontario
06-12-2004, 02:08
This guy's whole case is on what can be proven, and how noone can be sure of the facts, but if your willing to belive the immprobable (the war was faked) or the probable ( the war happened as was recorded in history) determines how much attention you want from people.Negative attetion for the immpropable scenero.
Siesatia
06-12-2004, 03:24
My view on the idiot who created this thread:

Lacadaemon: The Holocaust and WWII never happened.

Me: Than what about the mistreatment of the jews?

Lacadaemon: Didn't happen

Me: Do you have any proof it didn't happen?

Lacadaemon: Because I say so, and so does the National Enquirer.

Me: And what about the hundreds of planes and ships that lie on the bottom of the ocean in the pacific?

Lacadaemon: They were planted to confuse the masses

Me: Any Proof?

Lacadaemon: No

Me: What about the live eyewittnesses who are still alive today?

Lacadaemon: They are liars.

Me: All of them?

Lacadaemon: Yes, They must be, they lie about everything, like how Bush is an alien, and that Iraq doesnt excist, and thats why noone can find them on the map.

ME: Your an idiot you know...

Lacadaemon: Do you have proof?

Me: Yeah, some thread about how the holocaust never excisted...
DeaconDave
06-12-2004, 03:31
did he practice law? You're stupid, my poor friend.

Yeah he did, he rendered a legal opinion and gave legal advice.

You are ignorant, but I don't hold it against you.
Audiophile
06-12-2004, 03:44
this thread should have had a rule for posting.
i.e.
1.) You must read the whole thread before submitting your reply.

p.s. The title was very offensive.
Rasputin the Thief
06-12-2004, 08:44
Yeah he did, he rendered a legal opinion and gave legal advice.

You are ignorant, but I don't hold it against you.

you seem to be a 9 years old dumbass. Man, I'm 19 (also young I admit), I had classes of law, and I know that giving advices and telling someone he is not doing the right thing is perfectly legal. This is common sense. You may lack the intelligence to understand it, but you should not presume of the effects of laws if you are so dumb (and/or young).



I'm waiting for the mods to delete this thread...
Austrealite
06-12-2004, 09:44
but what if their parents were israeli's? im classified as an israelite and a jew, my parents were that as well.

No see if you live in *srael, your an *sraeli, which doesn't make you an Israelite. Your a Jew, your parents are Jews, your not an Israelite. An Israelite is a Race, where as a Jew is a different Race.
Austrealite
06-12-2004, 09:45
And why is Austraelite trying to educate me on what race i am?

I'm not educating you on what race you are, I'm educating you on what race your not.
Gyrpnaria
06-12-2004, 09:55
Wait So if WW2 was pre Planned and So is everything else, wouldn't the planners have knocked you off already. I mean since it's all pre-planned and shit.
Torching Witches
06-12-2004, 10:06
Kinda sick and sad to joke about stuff like this.

Well, I guess whoever started this thread (and those who continued its themology) wanted attention, and they got it.

Each to their own I guess. Its twisted, but far more than that, its just sad
The joke isn't about the Holocaust. The joke is about idiots who frequent this MB, and make outrageous statements similar too (though rarely as extreme as) those in this thread, yet who are making those statements in all seriousness.
Scindapsus
06-12-2004, 11:33
I'm going to pretend this thread never existed.

Personally sickened.
Torching Witches
06-12-2004, 11:36
I'm going to pretend this thread never existed.

Personally sickened.
Well, you just bumped it.

Personally, I don't see it as any different to someone acting as Hitler in a film. It raises the issue, and only idiots think he's actually like the character he's playing.
Spirit Crushing
06-12-2004, 15:43
Well it didn't. As we all know it was faked up as part of a leftist crypto fascist conspiracy.

But that is not really what interests me here, I am now gathering evidence that world war two was faked.

So far my results are pretty conclusive. I think at this point it is safe to say that the whole thing was pre-arranged by the powers that be in order to make it look like there was some form of "global" conflict between the major powers. But really what was the result. At the end of the day, pretty, much everyone ended up where they were before the war, so what was the point?

I'll tell you, it was a crypto fascist plot to justify the increase in government authority. Prove me wrong.

Yeah, but don't tell that to the vets at the legion. They're pretty committed to the lie.
Are you serious? Were you just doing this for the attention? It just got you negative attention.

Why don't you prove that you're right?
Tactical Grace
06-12-2004, 15:50
Guys, it's a parody. Those of you who are being shocked and outraged, are missing the point. And it's not getting locked.

Tactical Grace
Game Moderator
DeaconDave
06-12-2004, 16:40
you seem to be a 9 years old dumbass. Man, I'm 19 (also young I admit), I had classes of law, and I know that giving advices and telling someone he is not doing the right thing is perfectly legal. This is common sense. You may lack the intelligence to understand it, but you should not presume of the effects of laws if you are so dumb (and/or young).



I'm waiting for the mods to delete this thread...

I am not going to waste my time explaining legal concepts to you, but what exactly do you think practicing law is? Your law classes were clearly poor. Doubly so since you failed to address any issue of jurisdiction.

In any event I made the statement because some other individual made the baseless claim that denying the holocaust in the US was false, a facially ridiculous and uninformed opion if ever there is one. Thus telling him that practicing law without a license is even worse was to point out how ludicrous his post was. If you can't figure out why this is so, then every "law" class you ever took was a waste of your time.

Naturally, all this sails over your head, hence you have to jump in a scream that everyone is an idiot without even considering why or what you were saying. And seemingly fo this for no other reason thatn to make your self seem intelligent (a forlorn hope franky). Moreover if you could be bothered to follow the whole thread, instead of wasting everyone's time, singing the praises of you own self-proclaimed intelligence, then you would know this thread won't be locked.
Aligned Planets
07-12-2004, 00:32
This topic is really sickening...sorry, just my own two pennies
Indiru
07-12-2004, 00:45
Guys, it's a parody. Those of you who are being shocked and outraged, are missing the point. And it's not getting locked.

Tactical Grace
Game Moderator


I don't think it's a parody...
FeistyMeister
07-12-2004, 01:02
Guys, it's a parody. Those of you who are being shocked and outraged, are missing the point. And it's not getting locked.

Tactical Grace
Game Moderator
It must require a huge amount of "tactical grace" to call a thread named 'The holocaust never happened' a "parody". Let me start up a parody thread called "All mods are jerk-offs" (in which, of course, I will be stating the opposite) and see if that parody lives long enough to attract some flies and a mosquito.
Nieuw Hollandia
07-12-2004, 01:21
The French were gonna rely on the Maginot Line to crush any German attack, but the neutrality of The Netherlands and Belgium was unexpected, along with the German armored thrust through the Ardennes, which was thought to be impassible by armored units. Combine this with surprise, superior equipment, and better tactics and you have a German rout of the French and English armies.

The Netherlands were neutral during WW1 too. No suprise there. Belgium, after having seen many atrocities during WW1, told the Legue of Nations they didn't want to have any part in any war anymore. No suprise there either.

The French built their Maginot line from the Alps to the Ardennes, both thought to be unpassable geological formations. As Belgium to the North said to be neutral, and Germans in WW1 didn't violate neutral countries' territory, the French figured this was safe enough. The Germans however figured that, to make a pincer movement on the British Expeditionary Forces and the gross of the French Army complete, they would have to invade the lowlands as well. Another reason for this is IF the BEF would manage to retreat to England, they might have invaded Belgium and/or Holland to make a dash for Berlin. So a buffer was deemed nescessary. Hence Holland and Belgium's neutrality violated at May 10th, 1940.
Servenia
07-12-2004, 01:54
YOU BUNCH OF STUPID PPL CAN'T YOU KEEP A FORUM DISCUSSION WITYHOUT DISQUALIFYING YOUR THE OTHER'S OPPINION FROM THE BEGGINING AND MAKING FUN OF HIM JUST BECAUSE He's got new n different ideas
Indiru
07-12-2004, 01:59
YOU BUNCH OF STUPID PPL CAN'T YOU KEEP A FORUM DISCUSSION WITYHOUT DISQUALIFYING YOUR THE OTHER'S OPPINION FROM THE BEGGINING AND MAKING FUN OF HIM JUST BECAUSE He's got new n different ideas


Yes, we r a bnch of stpid ppl.

These are not new ideas, just echoes of anti-semitism from the nazis that escaped to South America saying that the Holocaust never existed. I'm sorry, but to deny the Holocaust isn't a new or different idea, it's just offensive.
Moonshine
07-12-2004, 02:57
I'm from England.


Well, I guess we can produce some pretty unique kooks too, eh wot?


That's how I know about the "naughty document" which was the finalization of post war influence.


It is? Then why haven't I heard about it, dearie?


This is why Greece is not communist today. Just wait on the Ukraine, Putins candidate will be elected.
West Pacific
07-12-2004, 03:12
Did you guys missed the post where the creater of this topic finally admitted that I did this just to mess with us? He did not mean it and reading his posts I could not help but to think that he was holding back because he would not provide his "sources."
Scut
07-12-2004, 03:22
and, isn't the whole point of a parody to be actually amusing, rather than just hugely inflammatory? Oh well, I suppose it might have gotten the young people reading, so there's a Tufty Club badge
Germachny
07-12-2004, 21:19
:sniper:

How can you even think of this being entirely fake?

My grandarents were growing up in Nazi-Occupied Denmark, and they have the scars of war to show, their feet are permanently crsuhed in a size 4 shoe because they were unable to afford new ones.

You sicken me
Sel Appa
08-12-2004, 01:01
Any idiot who believes that WW2 did not happen is obviously lacking intelligence. Millions of people know what happened, and a bunch of morons think it didn't happen.

Look up how many people were involved in the war directly. You'll see how the hundreds of millions of them compare to a few thousand people like you.

If WW2 was faked maybe the American Revolution was faked too. Maybe that's why we are good friends with the British now. Hmm?
Brittanic States
08-12-2004, 01:03
I love this forum :D
Incertonia
08-12-2004, 01:04
I am stunned by the reaction on this thread. Utterly stunned.

I need a beer or something.
Lacadaemon
08-12-2004, 01:04
I think that it should be made into a sticky.
Jayastan
08-12-2004, 01:05
Ironically, this thread should of course be locked. Denying the holocast is a form of hate crime IMO.

I bet if this was a north american forum this bullshit wouldnt get far...
Brittanic States
08-12-2004, 01:06
I think that it should be made into a sticky.
Seconded.
Austrealite
17-12-2004, 14:31
Ironically, this thread should of course be locked. Denying the holocast is a form of hate crime IMO.

I bet if this was a north american forum this bullshit wouldnt get far...

Alas because in America there isn't a thing called "Freedom of Speech"???

And besides, the Holocaust is being exploited whether it happened or not...
Torching Witches
17-12-2004, 14:36
I love that people are still taking this thread seriously. Lac, you're going to have to top this one for your final push, and that will take some doing.
Brittanic States
17-12-2004, 14:47
I love that people are still taking this thread seriously. Lac, you're going to have to top this one for your final push, and that will take some doing.
Trust me , it can be topped. :D
Superpower07
17-12-2004, 22:54
No way, Defensor Fidei hasn't found this thread yet?

Somebody hide it, quick! *oh ****, by me responding here it got bumped back up to page 1!*
Autocraticama
17-12-2004, 23:08
I haven't been here long, but i am already pretty much learning to ignore Lacadaemon