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There are far more extreme unreligious advocates of death supporting things such as genocide of all humans and third-trimester abortions. People with religion are usually not weighted to the bad extreme. Now, not all atheists and agnostics are bad - many are good - but there are more than a handful that believe the world would be better off with everyone dead, or, at least, a lowered human population, if even by killing off many people. And Christians, regardless of how questionably Christian-like they are, usually don't believe this.

You need to do some research.. I dont think we will have to kill everyone to make this world a better place!.. I think we should leave each other alone to make this world a better place.. and that is something you believers find very hard mate..

virusses are also living things.. they are here to kill people.. (cause this is what their effect is on them reproducing !) people aren't here to make powerplants and cars too.. but we are still doing it.. we are here to kill them!

Viruses are not here to kill us. They gain no benefit from killing us. They simply want to survive. They achieve this through reproducing in our body by destroying cells. They do not want to kill our cells - they simply have to to survive.

The AIDS virus changes dramatically to survive. This is what is so amazing about it compared to other viruses - by the time they would be able to cure one variant another would arise. If God made it or nature itself I admire its beauty. And again - I'm agnostic.

The AIDS virus changes dramatically to survive. This is what is so amazing about it compared to other viruses - by the time they would be able to cure one variant another would arise. If God made it or nature itself I admire its beauty. And again - I'm agnostic.

Yeah I agree.. but we are here to survive too. So that means if they want to kill us. We will try nomather wich state humanity is in to kill the virus

You need to do some research.. I dont think we will have to kill everyone to make this world a better place!.. I think we should leave each other alone to make this world a better place.. and that is something you believers find very hard mate..

I'll say it in bold to make sure someone sees it. I do not believe in God. If the Christian God exists I am going to hell.

But some non-believers follow this (http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2002/greensgenocide.html) concept. If I need more extreme examples I can give them. Some of them are rather revoling so I will not paste them here. I am sorry but being an atheist does not make you good. Being a Christian does not make you bad. It is who you are as an individual and your personality that does either of those.

just wondering what cult you come from? Why is sleeping around a sin? Just because sex was taboo 50 years ago doesn't mean we have to hold on to such restraining ideals. AIDS is a horrible, horrible disease and even though you are an asshole I do hope you never have to see the devastating affects. You think sex is a sin? I think you are going to hell (if it exists) because it doesn't matter how much you disagrree woth people you should never wish such horrible things on people because of life style choices. Go bible bash to people like you, you insensitive moron, one day you will be knocked of your moral pedestal and maybe then you can have a good look at the state of this world and worry about bigger things then sex. Like unjustified wars, like licking innocent refuggees up, like the social divide between rich and poor, like AIDS orphans.

Hello, I simply wanted to say that I was horrified when I read the title of this thread, but I clicked on it to see what it said. And I was highly relieved to see the indignant response.

I am sorry but being an atheist does not make you good. Being a Christian does not make you bad. It is who you are as an individual and your personality that does either of those.

Their is no Good neither bad in humans. You can be an asshole or a nice pro deo lawyer ;) but that doesn't mean the asshole is bad :D. Good and bad is created by religion to cloud the vision of the believers justifying that your religion is better than the other religion.

Hello, I simply wanted to say that I was horrified when I read the title of this thread, but I clicked on it to see what it said. And I was highly relieved to see the indignant response.

thx :D:P

And yes.. you can see religion as a drug. You can see is as dangerous, incompetant, ignorant.. but frankly is just see it as a sunglasses ;), they cloud the vision of so many millions op people. But one day maybe.. if there is a god.. he'll wake them up and motivates them to throw away those sunglasses and look at the earth. Just look and see where you having a reason for everything brought you. uhumm. us. Know the facts than on that day that 9 out of 10 wars are because of religion know that the most religious people might just be the ones that deteste religion so much.

Their is no Good neither bad in humans. You can be an asshole or a nice pro deo lawyer ;) but that doesn't mean the asshole is bad :D. Good and bad is created by religion to cloud the vision of the believers justifying that your religion is better than the other religion.

Pretend I purport myself as a murderer, kill you, eat your brains, and then drag your remains around town for little children to see - is it wrong to say that is "bad"? Would you allow such a thing in a nation because deeming something bad is wholly wrong? Bad exists. Without the human constructs of good and evil, the world would fall under anarchy, which is a failure within itself.

just wondering what cult you come from? Why is sleeping around a sin? Just because sex was taboo 50 years ago doesn't mean we have to hold on to such restraining ideals. AIDS is a horrible, horrible disease and even though you are an asshole
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Like unjustified wars, like licking innocent refuggees up, like the social divide between rich and poor, like AIDS orphans.

AIDS is not a horrible disease. It is easily preventable. I personally am for abstinence and I do not believe in God. I believe being lax with many things - things lacking in moderation - is bad. And being uncareful is bad as well. Exercise caution and you will find yourself coming out above "bad" in most cases. AIDS orphans are the unnecessary result of a lack of education and a lack of caution.

atheist like me just look at the future, with a smile. We do not try to find a reason for deceases for wars and sacrifices. We just look at all that and say, this is who we are. We are beasts, and we gotto live with that :D. We have to survive ourselfs and the strange individuals livign in this strange world. I can't declare a reason why we are here but I think we are here to live and live only, just because nature doesn't make reasons, humans make them.

Pretend I purport myself as a murderer, kill you, eat your brains, and then drag your remains around town for little children to see - is it wrong to say that is "bad"? Would you allow such a thing in a nation because deeming something bad is wholly wrong? Bad exists. Without the human constructs of good and evil, the world would fall under anarchy, which is a failure within itself.

Uhm.. doing that wouldn't make you bad it would make you insane and nuts. You should be punished for being totally insane not because your bad

It was nice chatting guys. Gotto go now ;) cya

I do, actually. I'm only in high school, so I'm not on National news or anything - but I voice the opinion openly in school.

OMGWTF???

Please tell me you regularly get your ignorant, vicious rump beaten by your peers and that your school's faculty has recommended to your parents that they put you in counselling.

And don't you DARE start vomiting up religious garbage to support your disgusting, hateful and UNGODLY statements. Because, let me tell you something, kid, if there's a God in heaven, he's going to pimpslap you when you come scratching at the gates if you don't get a SERIOUS clue and honestly repent for even THINKING such vileness.

The fact that you've made it to highschool with this kind of crap coming out of your mouth is a shame to your parents, your school and your community.

You make me sick.

Uhm.. doing that wouldn't make you bad it would make you insane and nuts. You should be punished for being totally insane not because your bad


Well, although you had to leave ( bah, that stinks - doubt anyone else'll hold up a good debate on this with me tonight, but I thank you nonetheless. :] May you have slept well if you read this later ). Being "insane" or "nuts" are also human constructs like good and bad. Am I really the one insane, or is it all of you who do not wish for me to murder you, eat you and drag your remains about town? Am I even insane for wanting to do so? What would classify something like that as insane? There is no mathematical equation that can tell us what is good and what is bad. It is basically the conscience of a person or group of people that does so.

If a corporation forces its employees through violent means to work that is, considered by most people, bad. Slavery and sweatshops are considered to be bad by most people. I doubt you would allow such things in your nation (if you were serious about a nation). This is perhaps a less extreme and more considerable example of good versus bad. If there is no weight of what is "good" versus" bad" then most laws should be disregarded in today's society, such as disallowing 8-year-olds to gamble or someone to purchase alcohol and drive. You must label corruption and death as bad for such things to be considered bad as well.

You are obviously a virgin (and will remain so for a very long time until your attitude changes)
by the way, if we werent meant to have sex, then why does it feel so damn good?
ponder that dumbass

Are you saying that being a virgin makes your debating ability worse?

Is your point less valid if you haven't had sex?

I personally am a virgin (age 18) and don't think that that makes me less of a person.

If you think not having sex makes you less of a person, then that's your opinion, but...

Are you saying that being a virgin makes your debating ability worse?

Is your point less valid if you haven't had sex?

I personally am a virgin (age 18) and don't think that that makes me less of a person.

If you think not having sex makes you less of a person, then that's your opinion, but...

I agree wholeheartedly. He is simply attempting to use the author's possible lifestyle choices against them. I am a virgin, and I do believe I am debating rather well at this time. Having sex or not has no true weight on how well you can debate.

I think we have a few openings now! :eek:
I hope for your sake you took extreme precautions. Cause from the sound of this you are in need of AIDS to remind you of what morals are.

Are you f***** crazy? My girlfriend is a doctor, she belongs to a risk group, only because she may get in contact with infected blood. What sin she made? Helping others is sinful?? AH!

Are you demented?

OMGWTF???

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You make me sick.

The author, whose statements I support, make a lot of sense. Check as follows, with some text added (original text quoted).

"In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense." If you do not tend to AIDS patients and if blood transfusions are screened more appropriately, the number of 'innocent' infections will be lower. "Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!" Because if more people had been exercising caution and been fighting to stop AIDS rather than to cure it, it may be excessively lower in the amount of death tolls today.

"We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair." Only people who do not exercise true caution or those who allow themselves to be heavily influenced by those who do not exercise true caution get AIDS.

Now, back onto what I was going to say...

I am not for sleeping around, swinging, or any of those sorts of things. I, myself, one day, hope to have a wonderfully fun and exotic sex life ... with one other individual, not many. I am very pro-morality, and, at the same time, very for desensitization of individuals. I believe if an individual wishes to sleep around they should be free to. However, at the same time, if someone contracts AIDS sleeping with multiple possibly untrustworhty persons, an "I told you so" is rather fitting, isn't it?

Are you f***** crazy? My girlfriend is a doctor, she belongs to a risk group, only because she may get in contact with infected blood. What sin she made? Helping others is sinful?? AH!

Are you demented?

It is merely a risk she is willing to take. I do not believe in heaven personally, but if heaven exists, perhaps she will be rewarded even more greatly for her actions after death. If she gets AIDS, she had the chance to opt out. It is her choice. I would never take this choice. I am afraid of AIDS. I want to do what I can to remain healthy without taking unnecessary risks. If those who took unnecessary risks die from doing so, I do not feel it is my responsibility to possibly throw my life away saving them.

I hope we never cure HIV AIDS.
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.
That's sickening.
I'm from South Africa, where AIDS is decimating the population. You cannot tell me that those people deserve it. Why? Because they live in poverty? Because they're socially dislocated and at the mercy of a migrant labour system devised by apartheid? Women who get raped deserve it? The millions of AIDS orphans deserve it?

UGH. It's because of people like you, with no compassion, that AIDS drugs aren't supplied where they are needed.

That's sickening.
I'm from South Africa, where AIDS is decimating the population. You cannot tell me that those people deserve it. Why? Because they live in poverty? Because they're socially dislocated and at the mercy of a migrant labour system devised by apartheid? Women who get raped deserve it? The millions of AIDS orphans deserve it?

UGH. It's because of people like you, with no compassion, that AIDS drugs aren't supplied where they are needed.

That's not true. It's because of people, like you, who probably don't fund $10,000 a year to the cause. C'mon! What are you waiting for?!
Charities should be optional. Just like you, most likely, have opted out giving even a penny, just like most of the people here, to the AIDS cause specifically. And if you have given money to it, which would surprise me, congrats. Really. Good going. But I doubt you have. So quit being so lazy and mouthing off about how someone saying AIDS isn't the horrible disease you believe it to be. Quit saying it's their fault it's not cured. It's just as much your fault if you have not contributed a penny.

Anyway, with that, I go to bed.

Just ignore the trolls, people.