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I hope we never cure HIV AIDS.

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Paxtonne
13-11-2004, 07:00
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:02
Tell it to those sinful hemophiliacs.
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:02
Excellent. I hope you contract HIV.
Eutrusca
13-11-2004, 07:02
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.

When next I pray for, among others, those who are suffering from AIDS, I will include you. You obviously need prayer more than most.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:02
I'm getting the hell away from this thread before it explodes. But before I do:

Infected person rapes uninfected person. How is that okay?


::Runs like hell::
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 07:03
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.
but since aids kills relatively few member western culture as a percentage of all its causualties, our morals are kinda irrelevent to the pandemic.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:03
I'm getting the hell away from this thread before it explodes. But before I do:

Infected person rapes uninfected person. How is that okay?


::Runs like hell::

He/she was sinful. Being a rape victim is a sin.
Colodia
13-11-2004, 07:04
AIDS is also contracted when people try to stop the bleeding of an HIV infectant without gloves. Tell me, how fast can you find gloves...right now?

Go run and time yourself.

Back to the topic...
DeaconDave
13-11-2004, 07:05
Oh very nice. :rolleyes:

What if it mutates and becomes airborne or something.

You'll be begging for a cure then Mr. Smarty Pants.

And who says western morals have collapsed. People are pretty much the same now as they were a hundred years ago.

There never was, and there never will be, a city on the hill.
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:06
AIDS is also contracted when people try to stop the bleeding of an HIV infectant without gloves. Tell me, how fast can you find gloves...right now?

Go run and time yourself.

Back to the topic...

Well obviously Paxtonne wouldn't save a person bleeding on the side of the road. He/she has already made their total lack of compassion evident already.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:06
He/she was sinful. Being a rape victim is a sin.

I don't know why I'm playing into this....but please explain that anyway.
Paxtonne
13-11-2004, 07:06
I'm not saying I'm glad people get AIDS. I'm saying it serves as a very good reason to practice morality.

I know some people - EXTREMELY few people - get it through transfusions or rape. But that wouldn't happen if people didn't sleep around.
Alzhiemerica
13-11-2004, 07:06
[QUOTE=Paxtonne]In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. QUOTE]

Is that statistically accurate? Seriously.

Hypothermia can be avoided by common sense, but if someone comes to my door shivering and blue in a tanktop in December, I'm not going to say "Serves you right, idiot," and kick them out. I'd probably start a Put A Damn Jacket On campaign. Which is done with AIDS, metaphorically speaking...
The Black Forrest
13-11-2004, 07:07
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.

Wow you are pathetic.

I have a friend that would love to meet you and beat your ass.

His wife who is a nurse got stuck with a needle while working on an aids patient. They are waiting for the results.

Hmmm I bet you don't even have the guts to spout this crap in public.
Evinsia
13-11-2004, 07:07
I can get gloves within seven seconds.
Colodia
13-11-2004, 07:07
I'm not saying I'm glad people get AIDS. I'm saying it serves as a very good reason to practice morality.

I know some people - EXTREMELY few people - get it through transfusions or rape. But that wouldn't happen if people didn't sleep around.
Drunkenness?
DeaconDave
13-11-2004, 07:09
I can get gloves within seven seconds.

Go on then. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7...

To late.
Alzhiemerica
13-11-2004, 07:09
He/she was sinful. Being a rape victim is a sin.

Says which srewed-up version of what holy book?
Paxtonne
13-11-2004, 07:09
Wow you are pathetic.

I have a friend that would love to meet you and beat your ass.

His wife who is a nurse got stuck with a needle while working on an aids patient. They are waiting for the results.

Hmmm I bet you don't even have the guts to spout this crap in public.

I do, actually. I'm only in high school, so I'm not on National news or anything - but I voice the opinion openly in school.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:09
I don't know why I'm playing into this....but please explain that anyway.

I was being facetious. Deliberately exaggerating to reveal the idiocy of the idea that AIDS is a punishment for the sinful.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:10
I'm not saying I'm glad people get AIDS. I'm saying it serves as a very good reason to practice morality.

I know some people - EXTREMELY few people - get it through transfusions or rape. But that wouldn't happen if people didn't sleep around.

You know...rape victims can be people who don't sleep around
Colodia
13-11-2004, 07:10
I can get gloves within seven seconds.
A person with a cut up artery would either be half-dead or completly dead in 7 seconds. Well done. That person didn't even have AIDS.
Harbour Terrace
13-11-2004, 07:10
But that wouldn't happen if people didn't sleep around.

Sounds like someones jealous.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:11
Says which srewed-up version of what holy book?

I believe that is in the Book of Adverbs.
Al Anbar
13-11-2004, 07:12
This is why religion is a very bad thing. It pollutes the mind.
Alzhiemerica
13-11-2004, 07:12
I believe that is in the Book of Adverbs.

hahaha
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:13
I was being facetious. Deliberately exaggerating to reveal the idiocy of the idea that AIDS is a punishment for the sinful.

::Deep sigh of relief:: Whew! Sarcasm like that should be marked! You scared me, thought there might be another person on this board that is completely insane
Alzhiemerica
13-11-2004, 07:14
I was being facetious. Deliberately exaggerating to reveal the idiocy of the idea that AIDS is a punishment for the sinful.

I think you were a little too convincing! :p
Colodia
13-11-2004, 07:14
This is why religion is a very bad thing. It pollutes the mind.
I'm tempted to flame, but I am religous and you are watching me side with the other sane people.

I'm better than a flamer...I'm better...


wooosaaa


wooosaaa...


I'm good. :)
The Black Forrest
13-11-2004, 07:14
I do, actually. I'm only in high school, so I'm not on National news or anything - but I voice the opinion openly in school.

Ewww you mouth off in high school. Gee that is really brave.

Well kid, try an explore the world. You really don't have a clue to what you are talking about.
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 07:14
I believe that is in the Book of Adverbs.

Adverbiastes?
Keruvalia
13-11-2004, 07:15
I was being facetious. Deliberately exaggerating to reveal the idiocy of the idea that AIDS is a punishment for the sinful.


Don't you know by now that that doesn't work around here unless you present it like this:

What I am about to say is a joke. I do not actually mean the words I am about to type. Make sure that when you read the following words, your mindset is that of sarcasm. This is intended as humor. Pay very close attention. Here are the words:

Being a rape victim is a sin.

What you have just experienced is sarcasm. The above words in no way reflect my personal viewpoint. The preceding message was an attempt at humor and no reader should take it seriously.
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:15
::Deep sigh of relief:: Whew! Sarcasm like that should be marked! You scared me, thought there might be another person on this board that is completely insane

I find it is best to never take anything LG says at face value.
Peopleandstuff
13-11-2004, 07:15
I'm not saying I'm glad people get AIDS. I'm saying it serves as a very good reason to practice morality.

I know some people - EXTREMELY few people - get it through transfusions or rape. But that wouldn't happen if people didn't sleep around.
The number of people who have contracted the HIV virus from medical proceedures, and involuntary sexual contact is most certainly not 'few'. I doubt it's a small percentage. I cant see how you could logically make such a proposition if you knew all the relevent facts.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:16
::Deep sigh of relief:: Whew! Sarcasm like that should be marked! You scared me, thought there might be another person on this board that is completely insane

In time you will grow to recognize that I'm almost never serious. I do, however, try to mark the posts that I'm being serious in. :)

ANd who says I'm not insane? I prefer to think of myself as 'uncaught'. http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-005.gif
The Black Forrest
13-11-2004, 07:16
I'm better than a flamer...I'm better...


You have a problem with gay people! :p
Al Anbar
13-11-2004, 07:16
I'm tempted to flame, but I am religous and you are watching me side with the other sane people.

I'm better than a flamer...I'm better...


wooosaaa


wooosaaa...


I'm good. :)

I'm not flaming... I'm expressing my opinion of religion. :)
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:16
Don't you know by now that that doesn't work around here unless you present it like this:

What I am about to say is a joke. I do not actually mean the words I am about to type. Make sure that when you read the following words, your mindset is that of sarcasm. This is intended as humor. Pay very close attention. Here are the words:

Being a rape victim is a sin.

What you have just experienced is sarcasm. The above words in no way reflect my personal viewpoint. The preceding message was an attempt at humor and no reader should take it seriously.


OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU STUPID FUNDIE CHRISTIAN PERSON YOU!!!!!!!11!!!one!!eleven!!1!!
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:18
Don't you know by now that that doesn't work around here unless you present it like this:

What I am about to say is a joke. I do not actually mean the words I am about to type. Make sure that when you read the following words, your mindset is that of sarcasm. This is intended as humor. Pay very close attention. Here are the words:

Being a rape victim is a sin.

What you have just experienced is sarcasm. The above words in no way reflect my personal viewpoint. The preceding message was an attempt at humor and no reader should take it seriously.


But misunderstanding is half the fun!
Keruvalia
13-11-2004, 07:19
OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU STUPID FUNDIE CHRISTIAN PERSON YOU!!!!!!!11!!!one!!eleven!!1!!

<in his best Mr. Peabody voice> Quiet, you.





























;)
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:19
In time you will grow to recognize that I'm almost never serious. I do, however, try to mark the posts that I'm being serious in. :)

ANd who says I'm not insane? I prefer to think of myself as 'uncaught'. http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-005.gif

Yeah, "Lunatic Goofballs" should have been a dead give away. I'll keep that in mind.

And, to clarify, by "insane" I meant ONLY the people who think the AIDs virus has a selective pattern of infection and targets only bad people and meanyheads. But back to the barbeque...
Keruvalia
13-11-2004, 07:19
But misunderstanding is half the fun!


GI Joooooooeeee
The Black Forrest
13-11-2004, 07:22
Don't you know by now that that doesn't work around here unless you present it like this:

What I am about to say is a joke. I do not actually mean the words I am about to type. Make sure that when you read the following words, your mindset is that of sarcasm. This is intended as humor. Pay very close attention. Here are the words:

Being a rape victim is a sin.

What you have just experienced is sarcasm. The above words in no way reflect my personal viewpoint. The preceding message was an attempt at humor and no reader should take it seriously.


OK now I am seeing RED!
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:23
Yeah, "Lunatic Goofballs" should have been a dead give away. I'll keep that in mind.

And, to clarify, by "insane" I meant ONLY the people who think the AIDs virus has a selective pattern of infection and targets only bad people and meanyheads. But back to the barbeque...

Ah. I'm insane. Not stupid. :)

Um... well I do play stun gun tag with my friends...

so *shifts uncomfortably* when I say stupid...

um...
http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-036.gif
nevermind.
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:25
Hm... what do people usually say in situations like these? Isn't it something like Don't feed the trolls?
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:26
Ah. I'm insane. Not stupid. :)

Um... well I do play stun gun tag with my friends...

so *shifts uncomfortably* when I say stupid...

um...
http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-036.gif
nevermind.

That sounds like a fun game. I like airgun capture the flag, lets you retaliate sooner.
The Black Forrest
13-11-2004, 07:26
Hm... what do people usually say in situations like these? Isn't it something like Don't feed the trolls?

Well when you are bored........
Fass
13-11-2004, 07:27
I do, actually. I'm only in high school,

A high-schooler, who's probably a virgin, wants to talk about any matter sexual as if he knew anything about it?

Grow up kid!
DeaconDave
13-11-2004, 07:27
I predict this thread will be locked.
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:28
Hm... what do people usually say in situations like these? Isn't it something like Don't feed the trolls?

In threads such as this, I prefer massive hijacking. When I am done with a thread, it's usually about something completely irrelevant and usually a wee bit dirty.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:28
Hm... what do people usually say in situations like these? Isn't it something like Don't feed the trolls?

I just hijack the threads and have some fun with them. :)
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:29
I wonder if trolls can catch AIDS? Maybe that's why they're so grumpy and live under bridges and stuff.

If I were a troll, and I had AIDS... I'd probably be a very grumpy troll.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:30
I wonder if trolls can catch AIDS? Maybe that's why they're so grumpy and live under bridges and stuff.

If I were a troll, and I had AIDS... I'd probably be a very grumpy troll.

Yeah because I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure a troll with AIDs doesn't get any very often
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:30
I wonder if trolls can catch AIDS? Maybe that's why they're so grumpy and live under bridges and stuff.

If I were a troll, and I had AIDS... I'd probably be a very grumpy troll.

Trolls are sinners.
Ahtnamas
13-11-2004, 07:30
Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions
Tell that to the many wives of the men who partake in sex tourism.

"Hey honey, guess what I brought home!"
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:31
Yeah because I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure a troll with AIDs doesn't get any very often

But then all of the other trolls laugh at you and say you deserve it and stuff. I'd be so mad that I'd probably try to eat billy goats or something, and then I'd eat people, and maybe Spam... yeah, I'd probably eat some Spam.
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:32
I wonder if trolls can catch AIDS? Maybe that's why they're so grumpy and live under bridges and stuff.

If I were a troll, and I had AIDS... I'd probably be a very grumpy troll.

Sitting under a bridge is a sin, so the trolls deserve to have AIDS.
The Black Forrest
13-11-2004, 07:32
If I were a troll, and I had AIDS... I'd probably be a very grumpy troll.

I don't know. Do Trolls and humans share a similar DNA?
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:32
But then all of the other trolls laugh at you and say you deserve it and stuff. I'd be so mad that I'd probably try to eat billy goats or something, and then I'd eat people, and maybe Spam... yeah, I'd probably eat some Spam.

Don't take it out on the poor Spam. It's not the one you're really angry at.
Pixma
13-11-2004, 07:34
I'm not saying I'm glad people get AIDS. I'm saying it serves as a very good reason to practice morality.

I know some people - EXTREMELY few people - get it through transfusions or rape. But that wouldn't happen if people didn't sleep around.
You protest against lack of values, but here you are professing that we should allow innocent people to suffer for the actions of "immoral, irresponsible idiots out there". What kind of values do you operate on, and what kind of authority on morality does practicing those values give to you?

I do, actually. I'm only in high school, so I'm not on National news or anything - but I voice the opinion openly in school.
Noone would hire you--except maybe Fox. :rolleyes:
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:35
By the way, where did that poor entertaining chap that started this thread go?

*shrug* Oh, well.

*hands out tacos* 99.44% HIV free.
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:36
By the way, where did that poor entertaining chap that started this thread go?

*shrug* Oh, well.

*hands out tacos* 99.44% HIV free.

Tacos are a sin.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:36
By the way, where did that poor entertaining chap that started this thread go?

*shrug* Oh, well.

*hands out tacos* 99.44% HIV free.

Ooh! Gimmie gimmie!
Alzhiemerica
13-11-2004, 07:36
I still want to know where you got 99% :)
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:36
Tacos are a sin.

But I took extreme precautions.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:37
Tacos are a sin.

No that's bourittos. Tacos clense the spirit (3 Taco Bell 4:11).
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:37
I still want to know where you got 99% :)

99.44%

I washed them in Ivory.
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:38
But I took extreme precautions.

But extremism is a sin.

So we all sin? Crap, this means that I'm going to get AIDs and it's all my fault!
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:39
But extremism is a sin.

So we all sin? Crap, this means that I'm going to get AIDs and it's all my fault!

You better take extreme precautions.

EEK! :eek: It's a vicious circle!
The Black Forrest
13-11-2004, 07:39
By the way, where did that poor entertaining chap that started this thread go?

*shrug* Oh, well.

*hands out tacos* 99.44% HIV free.

Man tacos sounds good right now.

Just got back from a company beer bash.

Reason for it? Post election get together! :eek:

Ok now what genious thought it would be a good idea to have a political chat with free booze!

I think we have a few openings now! :eek:
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:40
But extremism is a sin.

So we all sin? Crap, this means that I'm going to get AIDs and it's all my fault!

Crap, now I'm probably going to get it by having my posts too close to yours. Thanks a lot jerkface!
Hakartopia
13-11-2004, 07:40
I don't know. Do Trolls and humans share a similar DNA?

They do not. Trolls are very bad at sharing.
Colodia
13-11-2004, 07:40
THE FOLLOWING IS A JOKE! I SWEAR TO GOD, PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY! AGAIN, THIS IS MERELY A JOKE, MEANT FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT. ENJOY...

I had AIDS once...

The joke is over. You may resume your lives. I repeat, the joke is OVER!
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:40
Man tacos sounds good right now.

Just got back from a company beer bash.

Reason for it? Post election get together! :eek:

Ok now what genious thought it would be a good idea to have a political chat with free booze!

I think we have a few openings now! :eek:

Free booze makes everything better.
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:41
Crap, now I'm probably going to get it by having my posts too close to yours. Thanks a lot jerkface!

It's your fault, and in 99% of AIDs cases it could be prevented. You could have prevented it but you lack the morals required to stay away from my filthy AIDs ridden body.

You make me even more sick than I'm going to be. Pah!
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:41
Crap, now I'm probably going to get it by having my posts too close to yours. Thanks a lot jerkface!

Oh yeah, I wiped my AIDS all over this thread. You're all infected.
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 07:42
But extremism is a sin.

So we all sin? Crap, this means that I'm going to get AIDs and it's all my fault!
i'm an abomination in the sight of god. i'm not sure if i actually can sin, since my very existance in abhorant to the lord. i think my actual actions in life may then take place outside of the realm of sin as it is commonly understood.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:42
Man tacos sounds good right now.

Just got back from a company beer bash.

Reason for it? Post election get together! :eek:

Ok now what genious thought it would be a good idea to have a political chat with free booze!

I think we have a few openings now! :eek:
Better take precautions. ALcohol and openings don't mix.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:43
It's your fault, and in 99% of AIDs cases it could be prevented. You could have prevented it but you lack the morals required to stay away from my filthy AIDs ridden body.

You make me even more sick than I'm going to be. Pah!

Shouldn't complain too much, apparently I deserve it
Eutrusca
13-11-2004, 07:43
You better take extreme precautions.

EEK! :eek: It's a vicious circle!

Cycle. It's a vicious cycle. ;)
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:43
Better take precautions. ALcohol and openings don't mix.

And watch out. It's a well known fact that alcohol spreads AIDS.
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:44
Shouldn't complain too much, apparently I deserve it

Damn straight you deserve it! And I hope they don't find a cure for you either!

Wait a minute, that would mean... ah crap.
Eutrusca
13-11-2004, 07:44
And watch out. It's a well known fact that alcohol spreads AIDS.

ROFL! I just had a great idea for raising AIDS awareness. ( Wondering if I'll get deted for posting this? It's slightly ... um ... off-color! )
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:44
Cycle. It's a vicious cycle. ;)

Circle. Cycle. Same difference. 'Circle of Life' is a lot more poetic.
The Black Forrest
13-11-2004, 07:45
It's your fault, and in 99% of AIDs cases it could be prevented. You could have prevented it but you lack the morals required to stay away from my filthy AIDs ridden body.

You make me even more sick than I'm going to be. Pah!

Eww I love it when you get all biblical like!

:fluffle:
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:45
ROFL! I just had a great idea for raising AIDS awareness. ( Wondering if I'll get deted for posting this? It's slightly ... um ... off-color! )

The more off-color, the better!
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:45
Damn straight you deserve it! And I hope they don't find a cure for you either!

Wait a minute, that would mean... ah crap.

@#%! this, I'm going to go infect other people who probably deserve it. Tacos, anyone?
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:46
@#%! this, I'm going to go infect other people who probably deserve it. Tacos, anyone?

Out of curiousity, who DOESN'T deserve AIDS?
Hakartopia
13-11-2004, 07:46
*burninates sin*
The Black Forrest
13-11-2004, 07:46
Better take precautions. ALcohol and openings don't mix.

Doesn't it depend on the opening? ;)
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:47
Out of curiousity, who DOESN'T deserve AIDS?

Um...ah...............................um............................just a sec ................................................................want a taco?
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:47
Out of curiousity, who DOESN'T deserve AIDS?

My astronomy teacher and my girlfriend.

Besides that, you can all join the club!!!
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:47
Out of curiousity, who DOESN'T deserve AIDS?

Kittens. Cute little kittens.
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 07:48
Kittens. Cute little kittens.

isn't their some sort of cat aids though
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:49
"You looked at the sick kid...you're probably teeming with plauge-juice! I'll bet your lymph nodes are as big as cats!!!"
-Capt Murphy
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:49
"You looked at the sick kid...you're probably teeming with plauge-juice! I'll bet your lymph nodes are as big as cats!!!"
-Capt Murphy

No, no, no, this is totally offensive.
Hakartopia
13-11-2004, 07:50
Kittens. Cute little kittens.

"I mean, if that is true, what is the point of all of this?"
Death pondered this for a moment.
"CATS, " He answered, "CATS ARE NICE."
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:50
Kittens. Cute little kittens.

Have you seen "The Grudge" yet? That cat deserves all the AIDs in the world.

So does Sarah Michelle Geller cuz she's not my astronomy teacher or my girlfriend.

And Oprah. She could use a few AIDS
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:50
No, no, no, this is totally offensive.

Yeah....read the first post on this thread. Offensive has been redefined
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:51
Yeah....read the first post on this thread. Offensive has been redefined

It's a quote from Sealab.
Hakartopia
13-11-2004, 07:51
"You looked at the sick kid...you're probably teeming with plauge-juice! I'll bet your lymph nodes are as big as cats!!!"
-Capt Murphy

I have swollen lymph-nodes. :(

I blame the trolls. *shakes fist*
Eutrusca
13-11-2004, 07:51
The more off-color, the better!

( Glancing at Mods ... Sdaeriji said I could! ) :D

"Spread legs, not AIDS!" :)
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:51
It's a quote from Sealab.
And is thus relevant in any conversation.
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 07:52
isn't their some sort of cat aids though




http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/fiv.html


yup i thought so... so obviously god thinks kittens deserve aids
Eutrusca
13-11-2004, 07:52
I have swollen lymph-nodes. :(

I blame the trolls. *shakes fist*

Yeah! Flammers only give you crabs! LOL!
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:52
And is thus relevant in any conversation.

"We were just saying the same thing."

"SHUT UP!"
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:53
( Glancing at Mods ... Sdaeriji said I could! ) :D

"Spread legs, not AIDS!" :)

I like it.
Aerou
13-11-2004, 07:53
Wow you are pathetic.

I have a friend that would love to meet you and beat your ass.

His wife who is a nurse got stuck with a needle while working on an aids patient. They are waiting for the results.

Hmmm I bet you don't even have the guts to spout this crap in public.

We had a similar incident occur at the hospital where I work, but this happened to be a young intern....very sad...

As a "nurse-soon-to-be-doctor", its very scary to deal with patients on a daily basis, not knowing their full medical history, although I don't worry about it to much around here....but still... "safety first" heh...

I sure hope we fnd a cure though, its very sad watching someone basically waste away, and not being able to help them....=(
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:54
"We were just saying the same thing."

"SHUT UP!"

I said it's dodgeball time, b1tch.
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:54
I think the best way to increase AIDS awareness would be to give everyone AIDS. Then you'd be really aware of it. Think of the funding AIDS programs would get! It's a win-win situation!
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:55
I said it's dodgeball time, b1tch.

"It's either us or the Glups."

"Then I choose Glups!"

"That isn't an option!"

"Then don't represent it as one!"
Sexydeborahstan
13-11-2004, 07:56
you need to be sterilized.
Flamingle
13-11-2004, 07:56
Out of curiousity, who DOESN'T deserve AIDS?


poor black people who still live in the cradle of life, that's who

if anyone needs aids it's conservative aryan christians that persecuted/detroyed/enslaved millions of minority peoples the world over. gotta get a little to give a little,eh?
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:56
I think the best way to increase AIDS awareness would be to give everyone AIDS. Then you'd be really aware of it. Think of the funding AIDS programs would get! It's a win-win situation!

Then, years later, that one guy who went around saying "nah nah I have it already, no thanks" but didn't really have it becomes ruler of the world / subsequant mass pile of bodies
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 07:57
poor black people who still live in the cradle of life, that's who

if anyone needs aids it's conservative aryan christians that persecuted/detroyed/enslaved millions of minority peoples the world over. gotta get a little to give a little,eh?

I'm a conservative Christian, but I'm pretty sure I'm not aryan, should I get AIDs too?
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 07:58
http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/fiv.html


yup i thought so... so obviously god thinks kittens deserve aids

:eek: God is a Dog Person!

I should have guessed. God. Dog. It's obvious now that I think about it. :(
Dunbara
13-11-2004, 07:58
what kind of a sick asshat starts a thread like this. buddy, I would pay to meet you just so I could beat the ever loving shit out of you. man oh man would that make my day.
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 07:58
Then, years later, that one guy who went around saying "nah nah I have it already, no thanks" but didn't really have it becomes ruler of the world / subsequant mass pile of bodies

Slip it in every water supply in the world. If you don't get AIDS you'll just die anyway. We don't need a world of wimps not willing to fight AIDS with us!

Join the AIDS Army today!
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:58
I'm a conservative Christian, but I'm pretty sure I'm not aryan, should I get AIDs too?

I think we already established that everyone deserves AIDS.
DeaconDave
13-11-2004, 07:59
poor black people who still live in the cradle of life, that's who

if anyone needs aids it's conservative aryan christians that persecuted/detroyed/enslaved millions of minority peoples the world over. gotta get a little to give a little,eh?

Brilliant. Let's just wish aids on everyone we don't like. That's bound to help.
Fass
13-11-2004, 07:59
I think we already established that everyone deserves AIDS.

Kittens were exempt, dammit!
Eutrusca
13-11-2004, 07:59
:eek: God is a Dog Person!

I should have guessed. God. Dog. It's obvious now that I think about it. :(

Haven't you heard ... all dogs go to heaven! :)
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 07:59
Kittens were exempt, dammit!

No, Nationalist Valhalla proved that kitties are terrible, terrible sinners.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 08:00
I think we already established that everyone deserves AIDS.

Yeah but it sounds like he's callin' me out, and if I'm going to die soon anyway I'm not takin any more shit! Have at you!
Fass
13-11-2004, 08:00
No, Nationalist Valhalla proved that kitties are terrible, terrible sinners.

Bah, Nationalist Valhalla is obviously a pagan sinner! He can't be trusted.
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 08:01
Yeah but it sounds like he's callin' me out, and if I'm going to die soon anyway I'm not takin any more shit! Have at you!

Then take arms! Spread our sinful filth! If we're going down, let's take the world with us!

*coughAIDSArmycough*
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 08:03
I'm a conservative Christian, but I'm pretty sure I'm not aryan, should I get AIDs too?

if you have unprotected butt sex with iv drug using transvestite prostitutes, i'd say probably yes....


oh wait you said SHOULD, well i don't know...


as far as i'm concerned you can buggar as many drugged out trannies as you can afford without any adverse health outcomes, but i don't make the rules.
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 08:03
Watch out! I have AIDS! If I bleed, you might get infected!
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 08:04
as far as i'm concerned you can buggar as many drugged out trannies as you can afford with any adverse health outcomes, but i don't make the rules.

I have NO idea what you just said...so...right on!
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 08:04
Watch out! I have AIDS! If I bleed, you might get infected!
I have AIDS in 7 different counties, 3 different states, Canada, France, and Mongolia.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 08:05
Watch out! I have AIDS! If I bleed, you might get infected!

Oh stop it drama queen like anyone on this thread needs MORE infection
Shasoria
13-11-2004, 08:06
I personally think that AIDS is a way to keep our population under control. Same with malaria, and all these new pandemics that are coming to everyones attention suddenly. It's like we've grown a bit too much, and nature's a bit pissed.
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 08:06
I have AIDS in 7 different counties, 3 different states, Canada, France, and Mongolia.

Yeah, well my AIDS is bigger than yours. And more debilitating. So there!
Sdaeriji
13-11-2004, 08:07
I personally think that AIDS is a way to keep our population under control. Same with malaria, and all these new pandemics that are coming to everyones attention suddenly. It's like we've grown a bit too much, and nature's a bit pissed.

Malaria, new pandemic?
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 08:08
I have AIDS in 7 different counties, 3 different states, Canada, France, and Mongolia.
well in the school i work at we have aids from the school district, the tri county intermediate unit, and beacon light(a private mental health and councilling center). it can get confusing, just remeber sd aids are academic, iu and bl are strictly for behavior.
DOUBLE THE FIST
13-11-2004, 08:09
AIDS was created by God as a modern and efficient way to lose weight.
Soviet Haaregrad
13-11-2004, 08:09
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.

I hope you get AIDS, which is something I would wish on a very select group of people who demonstrate their complete disregard for the suffering of others.

Here's to debauchery, people who hate are just pissed they can't live it. ;)
Fnordish Infamy
13-11-2004, 08:10
@#%! this, I'm going to go infect other people who probably deserve it. Tacos, anyone?

So long as by tacos you don't mean 'AIDS-infected vagina', I'm in. yay tacos.
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 08:10
AIDS was created by God as a modern and efficient way to lose weight.
i didn't know god was trying to diet... i never thought he was fat... just massively boned.
Jenosia
13-11-2004, 08:10
it never ceases to amaze me how heartless and stupid people can be. i bet you'd change your mind if you contracted HIV.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 08:11
AIDS was created by God as a modern and efficient way to lose weight.

An excellent theory.

My theory is that God created HIV because several rare and exotic diseases and forms of cancer were becoming extinct. So he created HIV to give them a fighting chance.
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 08:12
it never ceases to amaze me how heartless and stupid people can be. i bet you'd change your mind if you contracted HIV.
That's why I said we should give everyone AIDS!
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 08:12
it never ceases to amaze me how heartless and stupid people can be. i bet you'd change your mind if you contracted HIV.

one of my best friends from college has been hiv positive for over a decade.
Flamingle
13-11-2004, 08:14
sorry,i forgot the rule of posting SARCASM,let me try that again:

!!ATTENTION!!THIS IS A JOKE AND ONLY A JOKE. AT NO TIME ARE YOU TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.THIS IS *SARCASM* AND SARCASM ALONE.

yes, give aids to everyone and the world will be all the better for it.
all for one, and aids for all!

THIS HAS CONCLUDED THE SARCASM SECTION OF THIS POST, THANK FOR NOT SMOKING.

seriously though, how could any sane person wish NOT to find a cure for a disease like aids? no one "deserves" it.it's a terrible wasting disease and i would not wish aids on my worst enemy,not even on the guy who started this thread.no one deserves to die the way aids victims(mind i say *victims*) die, it's gruesome and sad.
Apethonia
13-11-2004, 08:14
So long as by tacos you don't mean 'AIDS-infected vagina', I'm in. yay tacos.

ROFL...nah if that's what I meant I'd have said that exactly...so...to Taco Bell!
Fnordish Infamy
13-11-2004, 08:15
it never ceases to amaze me how heartless and stupid people can be. i bet you'd change your mind if you contracted HIV.

I think that everybody who says 'I hope there's never a cure for AIDS' should be smitten with it by God. Then we can all have a chuckle and a good cigar.
DOUBLE THE FIST
13-11-2004, 08:16
An excellent theory.

My theory is that God created HIV because several rare and exotic diseases and forms of cancer were becoming extinct. So he created HIV to give them a fighting chance.

Ah yes, the wonders of encouraging biodiversity. :D

Hey, didn't that guy in the Subway ads lose weight by getting AIDS?
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2004, 08:16
Ah yes, the wonders of encouraging biodiversity. :D

Hey, didn't that guy in the Subway ads lose weight by getting AIDS?

Actually, I think they were veggie delight subs. But that's almost as bad.
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 08:27
ROFL...nah if that's what I meant I'd have said that exactly...so...to Taco Bell!
And in what ways do Taco Bell and AIDS-infected vaginas differ, exactly?
Nationalist Valhalla
13-11-2004, 08:28
And in what ways do Taco Bell and AIDS-infected vaginas differ, exactly?
a condom won't help at taco bell.
Veladora
13-11-2004, 08:30
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.

Wow! What morals and values you have!
Face it, you're a hypocrite!
DeaconDave
13-11-2004, 08:30
a condom won't help at taco bell.

No, but a dental dam will.
The Field of Daisies
13-11-2004, 08:31
And in what ways do Taco Bell and AIDS-infected vaginas differ, exactly?


Yo quiero, AIDS? :p
Starkadh
13-11-2004, 08:33
go to a person with HIV or AIDS and tell this shit to em. see how long you survive.
Veladora
13-11-2004, 08:33
That's why I said we should give everyone AIDS!

Thats not the worst thing he gave us.

The worst thing God gave man and all of creation was life- do you realise how much we have to suffer with this thing called life? ;)
New Fuglies
13-11-2004, 08:35
And in what ways do Taco Bell and AIDS-infected vaginas differ, exactly?

Only one has guacamole...? No, that's not it.
Dumner
13-11-2004, 08:42
so the children born With HIV what Sin did they do?

:mp5: DIEDIEDIE...HAHAHA
Shizensky
13-11-2004, 08:47
so the children born With HIV what Sin did they do?

:mp5: DIEDIEDIE...HAHAHA
Uhm... DUH! They were breathing God's air! Jeez... how naive are you people anyway!?!

**Insert joke warning at both the top and bottom of the former statement**
Pepe Dominguez
13-11-2004, 08:49
Tell it to those sinful hemophiliacs.

:rolleyes:

Hemophiliacs haven't gotten AIDS since the early 80's... we screen for it thoroughly now.

Self control, friends, self control... :cool: AIDS isn't lurking in the corner ready to strike.. it's all up to you.. self control.
Dumner
13-11-2004, 08:51
if thats true why don't Dogs have AIDS ( or is it just they don't do buttsex or do drugs?)
Jeruselem
13-11-2004, 08:51
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.

And if you get it from a bloods transfusion to save your life after a car accident?
Ogiek
13-11-2004, 09:02
I guess the gist of this thread is (assuming it wasn't just posted to get people fired up - a distinct possibility) that sex outside of monogamous marriage should be punished by death, both for the offender and, if married, the spouse of the offender. Of course, this is because the overriding central belief of Western religions is that god's chief concern in creating humanity is what they do with their penises and vaginas.

Using the criteria that the most moral people are those least likely to get AIDS then we would all have to agree that lesbians, exchanging no bodily fluids during sex, are god's chosen people.

Bow down and worship the "Y"
Petsburg
13-11-2004, 09:03
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.

Say that to the catholics ;)
Weapons of Mass Terror
13-11-2004, 09:04
I second Ogiek's motion, but only if I can join with them in being a part of the chosen people...
Melaroose
13-11-2004, 09:24
I've got a question. According to you AIDS is godsent, Paxtonne, right? And anyone who gets it has been morally abhorrent, right? Alright, taking those two things, why do condoms prevent AIDS most of the time then? If AIDS is godsent, then wouldn't God's wrath transcend a thin little layer of latex all the time? I mean, come on! What's God's almighty wrath compared to a piddly little latex condom?! And why would God let innocent blood transfusion patients, rape victims, health workers, babies born to HIV positive mothers and people accidentally stuck with dirty needles get AIDS? Wouldn't He, in all his wisdom, know which people were good and which people were bad and wouldn't He be able to protect the good ones?


Or is it all a crock of shit, and you're just trolling?
Neo Portugal
13-11-2004, 09:30
I still want to know where you got 99% :)

It's the well known and well documented Schnabel's "Random Number Effect", in which, during a debate, a random number, generally one that supports the argument of the debater, is generated. Quite fascinating, actually. I'm a little surprised you haven't heard of it.
Vived
13-11-2004, 09:34
I'm not saying I'm glad people get AIDS. I'm saying it serves as a very good reason to practice morality.

I know some people - EXTREMELY few people - get it through transfusions or rape. But that wouldn't happen if people didn't sleep around.
You are obviously a virgin (and will remain so for a very long time until your attitude changes)
by the way, if we werent meant to have sex, then why does it feel so damn good?
ponder that dumbass
Dumner
13-11-2004, 09:34
so in other words he just pulled a number out of his a$$!
Ogiek
13-11-2004, 09:35
In the immortal words of Triumph, the comic insult dog, this is a pretty good thread...FOR ME TO POOP ON!
Grave_n_idle
13-11-2004, 09:36
I've got a question. According to you AIDS is godsent, Paxtonne, right? And anyone who gets it has been morally abhorrent, right? Alright, taking those two things, why do condoms prevent AIDS most of the time then? If AIDS is godsent, then wouldn't God's wrath transcend a thin little layer of latex all the time? I mean, come on! What's God's almighty wrath compared to a piddly little latex condom?! And why would God let innocent blood transfusion patients, rape victims, health workers, babies born to HIV positive mothers and people accidentally stuck with dirty needles get AIDS? Wouldn't He, in all his wisdom, know which people were good and which people were bad and wouldn't He be able to protect the good ones?


Or is it all a crock of shit, and you're just trolling?

Because, while god IS all powerful, he gets 'confused' by latex...?
Pepe Dominguez
13-11-2004, 09:38
You are obviously a virgin (and will remain so for a very long time until your attitude changes)
by the way, if we werent meant to have sex, then why does it feel so damn good?
ponder that dumbass

Heroin feels better. Why don't you go help yourself to some? ;)

Seriously though.. self control is a virtue, not something we must shed to 'grow up." :)
Dumner
13-11-2004, 09:40
Because, while god IS all powerful, he gets 'confused' by latex...?

so... to stop getting sent to hell cover yourself in latex....
Grave_n_idle
13-11-2004, 09:43
What I don't get, is why people 'invent' stuff to start a discussion.

99% of all cases of AIDS could have been prevented by.... whatever...

Ignores the fact that HIV is transferable in a whole array of ways, through a variety of vectors... in fact, all that needs to happen is that one person WITH the virus spits, drools, bleeds, etc... on one person with some kind of damaged skin or tissue surface.

Ignores the fact that blood-transfusions and syringes were two leading vectors for a while... and I don't mean DRUG-ADDICTS shooting-up... I mean hospitals injecting contamination accidentally.

I mean, really... if you want to start a thread based around a premise of probabilities, and how they relate to 'morality'... you would be better served to, at least, find a relevent statistic to base an argument on.

Or maybe, as others have said... this is troll-feeding time.
Grave_n_idle
13-11-2004, 09:43
so... to stop getting sent to hell cover yourself in latex....

:)
Melaroose
13-11-2004, 09:45
so... to stop getting sent to hell cover yourself in latex....


That *must* be it! Latex is like God's kryptonite!

*covers self in latex and commits a myriad of sins*

Haha! Take that God!
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 09:45
so... to stop getting sent to hell cover yourself in latex....
Yeah, but then you'll probably wind up stuck on Earth with no body, just a ghost covered in latex...
Dumner
13-11-2004, 09:45
Or maybe, as others have said... this is troll-feeding time.


Yay feeding time! :)
Dumner
13-11-2004, 09:47
Yeah, but then you'll probably wind up stuck on Earth with no body, just a ghost covered in latex...

yes but you could see free movies that has gotto be a plus.
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 09:49
yes but you could see free movies that has gotto be a plus.
Yeah, but I imagine always watching and never experiencing would get old pretty quickly... especially where sex is involved. Because everything eventually comes back to sex.
Dumner
13-11-2004, 09:52
you could still have sex by getting another latex covered person of the other sex kill them and there you go.
Chodolo
13-11-2004, 09:53
Can we cure idiots?

Maybe I'm being idealistic.
The Force Majeure
13-11-2004, 09:53
You are obviously a virgin (and will remain so for a very long time until your attitude changes)
by the way, if we werent meant to have sex, then why does it feel so damn good?
ponder that dumbass

Way to go, champ.

Whether or not he is a virgin is irrelevant.
Dumner
13-11-2004, 09:56
Can we cure idiots?

Maybe I'm being idealistic.

no the cure is a .22 in the head. :mp5:
Callisdrun
13-11-2004, 09:57
:rolleyes:

Hemophiliacs haven't gotten AIDS since the early 80's... we screen for it thoroughly now.

Self control, friends, self control... :cool: AIDS isn't lurking in the corner ready to strike.. it's all up to you.. self control.


So then if a poor little baby who has an infected mother is HIV positive from the day they're born, the kid should have had better self control?

Some poor girl who was minding her own business and got raped by some drunken infected guy should have had more self control?

Such bullshit. And by "we" who do you mean exactly? Because they don't screen for it in many countries.
Vived
13-11-2004, 09:59
no the cure is a .22 in the head. :mp5:
too bad most people would not be killed by a .22 to the head, use something better, like a .308, that'll do the trick (and make a mess too!)
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:01
So then if a poor little baby who has an infected mother is HIV positive from the day they're born, the kid should have had better self control?

Some poor girl who was minding her own business and got raped by some drunken infected guy should have had more self control?

Such bullshit. And by "we" who do you mean exactly? Because they don't screen for it in many countries.
Obviously the baby had it coming. After all, AIDS is God's way of saying "screw you, homos!" Anyone who gets it obviously sinned in some way or another.
:rolleyes:
The Force Majeure
13-11-2004, 10:01
too bad most people would not be killed by a .22 to the head, use something better, like a .308, that'll do the trick (and make a mess too!)

A .22 is the most dangerous weapon, because people don't respect it. It'll kill you to be sure...
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:02
A .22 is the most dangerous weapon, because people don't respect it. It'll kill you to be sure...
Best to be safe. Purge the idiots in the holy fires of the bazooka!
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:03
too bad most people would not be killed by a .22 to the head, use something better, like a .308, that'll do the trick (and make a mess too!)

yes but who said I shot only one .22?
Callisdrun
13-11-2004, 10:03
Obviously the baby had it coming. After all, AIDS is God's way of saying "screw you, homos!" Anyone who gets it obviously sinned in some way or another.
:rolleyes:


Yep. It is the baby's fault for contracting HIV when he was born. It was the woman's fault for getting raped, because god hates women carrying their groceries home at night. Definitely.
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:04
Yep. It is the baby's fault for contracting HIV when he was born. It was the woman's fault for getting raped, because god hates women carrying their groceries home at night. Definitely.
Exactly. Glad you see my point. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm late for my weekly book club. This week we're burning Chaucer!
Pepe Dominguez
13-11-2004, 10:04
"So then if a poor little baby who has an infected mother is HIV positive from the day they're born, the kid should have had better self control?"

(The mother should have, yes.) (As for the kid, that's rare, and is a tragic example why self control is so important, even when it's frowned upon today.)

"Some poor girl who was minding her own business and got raped by some drunken infected guy should have had more self control?"

(Another rare scenario, which you can't use to characterize the entire cultural debate. Note: I never said we shouldn't develop a cure - that was the original poster.)

"Such bullshit. And by "we" who do you mean exactly? Because they don't screen for it in many countries."

("We" means Us. You and me and the rest of us on the forum. Simple. AIDS by transfusion is almost nonexistant in developed countries, and in third-world countries with AIDS problems, it's the least of their problems. ;)

Please don't try and tell me the prevalent culture isn't a catalyst for disease.. please.. ;)
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:05
only if it hits you in the right spot, all i am saying is that if you want to get the jub done properly, use a .308 with a 165 gr. bullet, make sure that a soft or hollow piont is used (you'll be likely to feel less, because it will do more damage)
I can also tell you that an old native woman killed a world record Grizzly with a single shot .22 to the exact right spot, so dont you go telling me that I dont respect them...
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:06
Yep. It is the baby's fault for contracting HIV when he was born. It was the woman's fault for getting raped, because god hates women carrying their groceries home at night. Definitely.


Damn groceries!
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:07
I could tell you all of someone who does deserve the "treatment" that i was talking about: Any Rapist
they should at least be castrated... that would teach them, and maybe discourage people from doing it too
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:08
Pepe, neither of your "rare" examples are really all that rare. People don't realize how prevalent rape is in America because a lot of victims are afraid to go to the authorities. And HIV babies happen every time an HIV positive woman gets pregnant, which, while not the most common pregnancy in the world, still does happen frequently. After all, you've already both got AIDS, why bother with a condom?
Tannelorn
13-11-2004, 10:08
ok umm yeah humans were meant to have sex, like all the time too, things like aids are around to keep our numbers low, not to stop us from being immoral. In fact all diseases are here to keep our numbers low. Interestingly enough..its the bible and other books that tell us such wonders as be fruitfull and multiply sooo if you want to put any blame on aids anywhere, then the bible is a great place to start ^.^. Now also please refer to them as they are HIV is the retrovirus which forms in to aids. Aids itself is not communicable and by the time HIV has mutated in to it, it is not longer aids. I had a aquiantance that dated a person with aids, and he learned ALL about it. An Aids patient cant give you aids or HIV, also only 35% of the population is susceptible to HIV. Thats why its so deadly. Now every disease needs to be cured, as we are no longer natural parts of the world, we should not tolerate such natural controls. Anyways Aids isnt here to punish the wicked. Thats like saying a brick falling on your head is punishing the wicked for masturbation...its not.
Callisdrun
13-11-2004, 10:09
"So then if a poor little baby who has an infected mother is HIV positive from the day they're born, the kid should have had better self control?"



Please, learn a bit about the AIDS epidemic before posting. In the regions hardest hit by it, this is EXTREMELY common. Very sad

Also, in said regions, which are mostly the third world countries mentioned previously, the AIDS epidemic IS among the most important of their problems. The infection rate in some of the poorer African nations is simply appalling.
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:09
I could tell you all of someone who does deserve the "treatment" that i was talking about: Any Rapist
they should at least be castrated... that would teach them, and maybe discourage people from doing it too
I say we go back to the medieval punishment for rape. Rollercoaster ride, legs spread, straight into a razor blade.
Callisdrun
13-11-2004, 10:10
I'm out for the night, I'll be back on sunday. Grr

Oh, and for the record, the only person with AIDS I've ever met was a straight female whose man cheated on her and gave her HIV.
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:11
I say we go back to the medieval punishment for rape. Rollercoaster ride, legs spread, straight into a razor blade.
I like that, or maybe enlist some thugs as "The Rape Squad" they do not go along raping people, but beating the absolute hell out of rapists, then castrating them (And sending them to prison so those little jerks can grab thier ankles in the shower every morning)
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:12
I say we go back to the medieval punishment for rape. Rollercoaster ride, legs spread, straight into a razor blade.

OW!!! :eek:
The Force Majeure
13-11-2004, 10:12
Best to be safe. Purge the idiots in the holy fires of the bazooka!

sounds costly...and messy. How about a 7.62?
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:13
OW!!! :eek:
Exactly. After just reading about it you're probably about 95% less likely to go out and rape someone. If they actually started practicing it, rape would become practically non-existant!
Dobbs Town
13-11-2004, 10:14
Like, 99% of the truly stupid people out there think they're actually terribly clever and come up with gross overgeneralizations about things they have no direct experience with. For the tiny percentage who don't - well, I guess they're too dumb to find their way onto NationStates.

We're lacking in intelliegence enough as it is - stupidity is one of the few things keeping us ("us" being a general reference to people who don't consider the back of a cereal box to be 'good reading') from turning into the least dreary backwater on the planet. I personally believe stupidity to be entirely manmade, like turds floating up on the beach - fully preventable, and completely arbitrary.
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:14
sounds costly...and messy. How about a 7.62?
I thought we were going for messy. As for costly, just pull it from the idiot's insurance.
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:15
Exactly. After just reading about it you're probably about 95% less likely to go out and rape someone. If they actually started practicing it, rape would become practically non-existant!
I would like that a lot (my friend got raped, and someone tried to rape another of my friends)
all I have to say, is that those guys are lucky that I didnt get to meet them... they'd be hooked upto a little machine that goes "BEEP" everytime thier heart beats
Pepe Dominguez
13-11-2004, 10:15
Please, learn a bit about the AIDS epidemic before posting. In the regions hardest hit by it, this is EXTREMELY common. Very sad

Also, in said regions, which are mostly the third world countries mentioned previously, the AIDS epidemic IS among the most important of their problems. The infection rate in some of the poorer African nations is simply appalling.

Eh.... :rolleyes:

Okay, here we go:

1. I never said AIDS wasn't a problem in third world countries... what I said was: in countries that can't screen blood banks for the virus, (i.e. African countries), infection by transfusion is the least of their problems. See? It's not so hard.

2. Self control is still an issue in nations where AIDS is epidemic. See, many of the African nations you mention have a culture so extremely patriarchial that women are basically resigned to consent to any type of sexual activity, whether the man is HIV-positive or not.

3. Remember, I'm not suggesting AIDS research should be stopped.. that was someone else.. so enough with the "poor babies!" and "poor girls!" ;)
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:16
sounds costly...and messy. How about a 7.62?

who cares about mess. put on glasses
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:17
I would like that a lot (my friend got raped, and someone tried to rape another of my friends)
all I have to say, is that those guys are lucky that I didnt get to meet them... they'd be hooked upto a little machine that goes "BEEP" everytime thier heart beats
I have three sisters, and I'm scared to death that they will be raped. In my humble opinion, you are being too kind if you let him live after you torture him... unless you are planning on torturing him some more when he wakes up from his coma.
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:19
I have three sisters, and I'm scared to death that they will be raped. In my humble opinion, you are being too kind if you let him live after you torture him... unless you are planning on torturing him some more when he wakes up from his coma.
hmm, I suppose you're right, but I would probably be less likely to go to jail for a long peoiod of time is the guy lives...
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:20
you are being too kind if you let him live after you torture him... unless you are planning on torturing him some more when he wakes up from his coma.

no,no you torture him first then kill him.
Pepe Dominguez
13-11-2004, 10:23
I have three sisters, and I'm scared to death that they will be raped. In my humble opinion, you are being too kind if you let him live after you torture him... unless you are planning on torturing him some more when he wakes up from his coma.

If they don't drink/do drugs, then the odds of their being raped are minimal, despite the ridiculous statistics on college campuses (almost all drug/booze-related). So be concerned, sure, but not 'scared to death!' ;)
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:25
If they don't drink/do drugs, then the odds of their being raped are minimal, despite the ridiculous statistics on college campuses (almost all drug/booze-related). So be concerned, sure, but not 'scared to death!' ;)


How can you write this is you are 'scared to death'?
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:25
If they don't drink/do drugs, then the odds of their being raped are minimal, despite the ridiculous statistics on college campuses (almost all drug/booze-related). So be concerned, sure, but not 'scared to death!' ;)
Give them Mace (I dont know if it's legal in the US, but it's legal for a woman to carry in Canada (several of my friends carry it))
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:26
If they don't drink/do drugs, then the odds of their being raped are minimal, despite the ridiculous statistics on college campuses (almost all drug/booze-related). So be concerned, sure, but not 'scared to death!' ;)
What can I say? I'm paranoid.
Pepe Dominguez
13-11-2004, 10:27
How can you write this is you are 'scared to death'?

Huh? I was responding to the guy who said he was scared to death his sisters would be raped... I'm just saying that the stats on rape, disincluding drugs/booze are nothing to lose sleep over...
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:27
Give them Mace (I dont know if it's legal in the US, but it's legal for a woman to carry in Canada (several of my friends carry it))


So still give them Mace.
Newbia
13-11-2004, 10:27
I say we go back to the medieval punishment for rape. Rollercoaster ride, legs spread, straight into a razor blade.

I'm pretty certain that they didn't have rollercoasters in the 12th century...

Just a thought.. Carry on.
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:28
Huh? I was responding to the guy who said he was scared to death his sisters would be raped... I'm just saying that the stats on rape, disincluding drugs/booze are nothing to lose sleep over...


Oh,sorry
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:29
I'm pretty certain that they didn't have rollercoasters in the 12th century...

Just a thought.. Carry on.
Well... it wasn't so much a rollercoaster as it was "tie him down on a cart with his legs spread over the front edge and push him down a hill." I just translated it to a modern equivalent.
Pepe Dominguez
13-11-2004, 10:29
Give them Mace (I dont know if it's legal in the US, but it's legal for a woman to carry in Canada (several of my friends carry it))

Mace, staying off drugs, travelling in pairs, and telling someone where you're going if you're a woman are the major things you can do to help yourself.. Mace is legal in the U.S. most places, I think.. a .22 is the next best thing, even if illegal.. it's worth it.
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:29
So still give them Mace.
You can make a substitute if need be
Iodized salt, and Rubbing Alcohol
Dutch European Union
13-11-2004, 10:30
In 99% of cases, it can be prevented by common sense. Those who get it get it as a result of their own actions, and for the tiny percent of those who don't - well, they can placec the blame on the irresponsible, immoral idiots out there!

We're lacking in values enough as it is - AIDS is one of the few thing keeping us ("us" being a general reference to Western culture) from turning into the most sinful place on Earth. I personally think AIDS is Godsent, like plagues sent to punish the sinful - but fully preventable, and very fair.

People like you should be thrown in a dungeon, cut of their balls.. and let them rot. You are the one ignorant. Every minute innocent people die because of aids, little children, parents ect.. You guys are screaming for help to stop islam extremists but come on.. this guy is nuts, just as dangerous as islam extremists. While you guys are bizzy raping some poor iraqi in a prison, please rape these people who have no hart at all. you can call me hart-less but im not the one saying aids is sent by god to punish us. science prooved that plagues aren't send by god but because of older virusses who get imune to the modern medicines and then grow to a more dangerous state. A friend of mine has aids, and i'm shocked that you say that he should just die. Please god let him have aids for a week.. punish this guy. And the rest of you believers feel embarrassed please.
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:31
Mace, staying off drugs, travelling in pairs, and telling someone where you're going if you're a woman are the major things you can do to help yourself.. Mace is legal in the U.S. most places, I think.. a .22 is the next best thing, even if illegal.. it's worth it.
Or Hire yourself some thugs to walk 10 paces behind you, (Im willing, I need $$$)
I am 185lbs, 5'11" Ripped, weightlifter, and I wrestle
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:31
awesome
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:31
So still give them Mace.
If I ever get really concerned that my sisters might get raped, that Christmas they'll be getting Mace and a Taser. I'm pretty sure Mace is flammable... *wicked grin*
Dutch European Union
13-11-2004, 10:32
He/she was sinful. Being a rape victim is a sin.

can someone please hang this guy? thx
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:33
If I ever get really concerned that my sisters might get raped, that Christmas they'll be getting Mace and a Taser. I'm pretty sure Mace is flammable... *wicked grin*
Mace is very flammable, but why dont you just buy Deoderant? much cheaper, and more fun to burn
Pepe Dominguez
13-11-2004, 10:33
can someone please hang this guy? thx

He was joking.
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:34
I wasnt
Dumner
13-11-2004, 10:34
can someone please hang this guy? thx

no need he is offline. we don't have to hear his crap...yay!
Northern Trombonium
13-11-2004, 10:35
Mace is very flammable, but why dont you just buy Deoderant? much cheaper, and more fun to burn
Yeah, but they might actually use it as deoderant instead of as a flamethrower...
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:36
Yeah, but they might actually use it as deoderant instead of as a flamethrower...
See? i has many different uses, see how resourceful I am?
(you can also spray someone at close range)
Corrosades
13-11-2004, 10:39
It's insulting to see how unintelligent this thread has become in either an attempt to destroy its credibility or just get it closed. AIDS is not something anyone deserves. It is simply something people get.

First off, I do not believe in God. When I was younger, I believed AIDS was a punishment from God. Now I believe AIDS is an intriguingly adaptive disease. It is, essentially, only around because people are stupid. They take care of people with AIDS. They trust people who could have gotten AIDS. They perform questionable acts (drugs, prostitution, etc.) with people who have or could have AIDS. AIDS is one of the few remaining pieces of natural evolutionary killers in our society today. Things like cancer are not preventable in such easy ways - simply distance yourself from circumstances with the victims. If a man was bleeding to death on the street I would toss him my shirt and tell him to tie the wound off. I don't want AIDS. I'm not stupid.

His wife who is a nurse got stuck with a needle while working on an aids patient.

My mother is a nurse. I am not supportive of her actions. I do not believe individuals should be forced to work on people with contageous deadly diseases if they do not wish to. It is her choice to operate on an invidiual who has or could have AIDS. It is her mistake, even.

Drunkenness?
Drunkenness is an issue in itself. If you are willing to get drunk then you are willing to be at the mercy of others while you are incapable of controlling yourself. It is like taking a sleeping pill around untrustworthy individuals. A mistake. If you are going to drink, drink around several close friends, not in a bar or at a frat party without any friends. It's a mistake and it shows if you get raped and contract AIDS. I have friends who have lost their virginity while drunken. It is their fault for getting drunken and the person's fault for taking advantage of them. That is just how our world operates.

Other times, if in public and are raped, you should have a weapon with you beforehand, even if it is only mace, or if it has to be a gun, well, so be it. And if you can't protect yourself, be with a group of individuals capable of defending themselves, or don't even be in a dangerous place in the first place.

The number of people who have contracted the HIV virus from medical proceedures, and involuntary sexual contact is most certainly not 'few'. I doubt it's a small percentage. I cant see how you could logically make such a proposition if you knew all the relevent facts.

I doubt it's a large percentage. 6,000 Africans die each day in Africa from AIDS (I believe this is the figure, averaged). I doubt most of them got it from blood transfusions in a medical institution. I doubt even over 1% get it from blood transfusions in a medical institution. If they do, please look the figure up and correct me; but still, I doubt, highly, that anywhere in the world, the percentage is over 10%.

If you want to contribute to the fund to stop AIDS go ahead. I believe it is futile to search for a cure according to how amazingly the virus changes and how it infects a person. Perhaps it is possible if people are simply more careful, if AIDS patients are treated with more caution, and blood for transfusions is screened more accurately.
Servenia
13-11-2004, 10:39
Why does everybody say "HIV is still unfair because also 'moral' people not sleeping around also gets it"?

Why should anybody be punished with mortal virus or be called inmoral only for choosing his own way to live his nature-given sexuality?

Most people here are quite liberal and progresist but in this post most of you sound like ppl from medieval europe
Dutch European Union
13-11-2004, 10:44
try to tell people who already have aids to be more careful? nope thx. The ones who got it because they weren't careful enough know that they made a mistake, they probable hate their selfs because of that. They deserve help from anyone and uhm HALLO.. you can only get aids by not touching the wound noooo you should first have an open wound yourself before you can get infected, and sex, YOU CAN NOT get it from french kissing.. touching ect.
Christian Conservative
13-11-2004, 10:44
First of all, people who say things that are down right stupid on this board, while trying to sound holy, are most likely full of crap. I think a lot of people say stuff like this just to make christians look bad.

I'm a born again christian and I wish that we would find a cure for HIV/AIDS.

If it is God's will, we will.
Corrosades
13-11-2004, 10:44
Most people here are quite liberal and progresist but in this post most of you sound like ppl from medieval europe

A lot of the people here sound like undiscerning liberals simply trying to trash the post with garbage to get it locked. They were, anyway.
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:46
YOU CAN NOT get it from french kissing.. touching ect.
Actually, it is possible, but it requires nearly a gallon of saliva
Rolanda
13-11-2004, 10:47
He/she was sinful. Being a rape victim is a sin.


Being a rape victim is a sin?

Something that was forced upon you against your will? Something you had no control over and could not prevent?

Wow. Sucks to be a rape victim then...looks like they're all going to hell for sin. :rolleyes:
Corrosades
13-11-2004, 10:48
try to tell people who already have aids to be more careful? nope thx.
[...]
YOU CAN NOT get it from french kissing.. touching ect.

I think the after-the-fact is a proverbial "oh well". Let the stupid suffer and try to save others from their mistakes. That is what I do for many other mistakes I have had in my lifetime. I wish to prevent others from doing the same - so I warn them. If I got AIDS, I would probably do whatever I could to prolong my life, and become an advocate for abstinence and caution.

And you can get it from kissing or touching, but, yes, only if those parts of the body are both cut.
Dutch European Union
13-11-2004, 10:50
virusses are here to be cured not to kill us all, and lets say it is a virus sent by god; he should come with virusses that blind us not virusses who kill us. If god did a thing like that god is evil.. ;).. I'm unreligious and i'm proud of that, Unreligious people don't want to kill eachother, I actually don't want to have any relations with anyone who is a strong believer, I think they are ignorant because the are trying to find a way to declare everything in this universe with a reason.
Corrosades
13-11-2004, 10:50
Being a rape victim is a sin?

Something that was forced upon you against your will? Something you had no control over and could not prevent?

Wow. Sucks to be a rape victim then...looks like they're all going to hell for sin. :rolleyes:

That person was joking earlier. But I don't really see how rape can't be prevented in most circumstances - parties (avoidable), dates gone bad (avoidable), a walk in the park without your* .45 (avoidable)...

*It doesn't have to be your .45. It could be someone else's. ;]
Vived
13-11-2004, 10:51
virusses are here to be cured not to kill us all, and lets say it is a virus sent by god; he should come with virusses that blind us not virusses who kill us. If god did a thing like that god is evil.. ;).. I'm unreligious and i'm proud of that, Unreligious people don't want to kill eachother, I actually don't want to have any relations with anyone who is a strong believer, I think they are ignorant because the are trying to find a way to declare everything in this universe with a reason.
Finally someone on this site with my religeous views!
Dutch European Union
13-11-2004, 10:53
And you can get it from kissing or touching, but, yes, only if those parts of the body are both cut.

and you need more blood than just a little to get aids. We shouldn't ban people because fo the deceases they have. Whe should ban people like the strongly believing christian who started this shocking post.
Dutch European Union
13-11-2004, 10:55
Finally someone on this site with my religeous views!

yep it's nice to meet some people who are smarter to believe in what others tell them. Although we can't blame the most christians, they were born with these strange habits ;).. but nice to hear you think almost the same as me vived :D
Corrosades
13-11-2004, 10:56
virusses are here to be cured not to kill us all,
[...]
I think they are ignorant because the are trying to find a way to declare everything in this universe with a reason.

The reason AIDS is here is because one day someone was infected with a virus that infected something else with a virus and so on and so on...
It's really a very simple virus to avoid. It's a lot easier to avoid than the common cold or West Nile.

But remember - viruses are not here to be cured *or* kill people. Viruses are here to capitalize on the human population. If the only way you could live was to kill another organism you may be tempted to do so. Imagine your body's cells as caterpillars, and the only way for your species to reproduce and eat was to infect caterpillars with your offspring. Some wasps are very similar to this. They lay their eggs on the caterpillars or another form of insect or spider that is paralyzed and their offspring eat them from the inside out.
Dutch European Union
13-11-2004, 10:58
virusses are also living things.. they are here to kill people.. (cause this is what their effect is on them reproducing !) people aren't here to make powerplants and cars too.. but we are still doing it.. we are here to kill them!

i'm adding the last thing ;)..

We are here to kill them because we are here to survive..
Corrosades
13-11-2004, 11:00
yep it's nice to meet some people who are smarter to believe in what others tell them. Although we can't blame the most christians, they were born with these strange habits ;).. but nice to hear you think almost the same as me vived :D

There are far more extreme unreligious advocates of death supporting things such as genocide of all humans and third-trimester abortions. People with religion are usually not weighted to the bad extreme. Now, not all atheists and agnostics are bad - many are good - but there are more than a handful that believe the world would be better off with everyone dead, or, at least, a lowered human population, if even by killing off many people. And Christians, regardless of how questionably Christian-like they are, usually don't believe this.