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Stone now catagorically denies having anything to do with the documents. He has challanged McAuliffe, who is spreading these rumors, to produce any evidence connecting Stone to the documents.

Sort of a "put up or shut up" challange.

Good! Now maybe we can put this issue to bed and get back to what really is important

MKULTRA, are you an idiot?

China is no longer a Communist State. I would know, seeing as how I live in Beijing. China is gradually making the change to a multi-party democracy. At the moment, they are essentially a single-party democracy, but the people have far more freedom than they did even ten years ago. There are no longer bans on foreign imports, or an overwhelming amount of artificially suppressed inflation. The people are no longer paid by the government. Each year, the number of state-run companies falls as they are sold off or consolidated into others.

China has the 7th largest economy in the world, and it is growing at an incredible rate...so fast, in fact, that the government is searching for ways to slow down the growth in order to prevent the 'bubble' from bursting. The People's Republic of China has realized that Capitalism benefits the country far more than a collective Communist society, and it is because of this that the country has been so successful in recent years.

Before you go shooting your mouth off, get your facts straight.that all may be true and its good news too at least on the economic front--but politically speaking theres no such thing as a "single party democracy"

Say it with me: Hearsay. Is. Not. Proof.
also what Bushs own college Professer who he confided in said-and if all of this was untrue about Bushs scandalous military record then why doesnt Bush disprove it all himself? He wont because he cant. Whatever scant Bush military records that are in circulation now were all gotten as a result of a lawsuit--whats Bush hiding if these allegations arent true? wheres theres smoke theres fire

And in this case, they're not taking care of themselves. What does that say about your "truth"?
then why isnt Bush himself disproving it if its false? if all these questions are lingering why isnt Bush being forthright? innocent people dont need to hide things

Thats bullshit if i ever saw it, Dan Rather put that on the air, when the family said " Thats not my dad's/huspend's work. " He is a liar, and a criminal. You've got a better chance of me apologiseing to France.
Bush owes France an apology--it turns out that France was correct about Iraq not having WMDs afterall

Stone now catagorically denies having anything to do with the documents. He has challanged McAuliffe, who is spreading these rumors, to produce any evidence connecting Stone to the documents.

Sort of a "put up or shut up" challange.
the lady doth protest too much

Good! Now maybe we can put this issue to bed and get back to what really is important
yes, all of Bushs very costly and destructive blunders :)

also what Bushs own college Professer who he confided in said-and if all of this was untrue about Bushs scandalous military record then why doesnt Bush disprove it all himself? He wont because he cant. Whatever scant Bush military records that are in circulation now were all gotten as a result of a lawsuit--whats Bush hiding if these allegations arent true? wheres theres smoke theres fire

Nice dodge, but in case you haven't been paying attention to your own thread, we aren't talking about Bush's military record. We're talking about your accusation that these specific documents were faked.

the lady doth protest too much

Ah, of course. Stone denies having anything to do with the documents and basically defies McAuliffe to prove otherwise, therefore he's guilty.

MKULTRA, please for the love of God give us one real link as your LATimes link gave me nothing.

Of course you won't find one as what you posted was nothing but desperate lies that come as a result of panic when Kerry is trailing by double digits.

MKULTRA, please for the love of God give us one real link as your LATimes link gave me nothing.

Of course you won't find one as what you posted was nothing but desperate lies that come as a result of panic when Kerry is trailing by double digits.

hahahahahahaha! You sure have a lot of faith in one poll that contradicts the tight numbers of all the other polls.

Typical case of Republicans ignoring any information that disagrees with their pre-conceived notions.

hahahahahahaha! You sure have a lot of faith in one poll that contradicts the tight numbers of all the other polls.

Typical case of Republicans ignoring any information that disagrees with their pre-conceived notions.
I'm going on both the Time/CNN and the Newsweek polls. Not a single poll shows Kerry winning popular vote and when you look to the Electoral College (where it really counts) Bush is pulling off a landslide.

this argument only works situationally

In other words, NO. If you present a forged lottery ticket, your message is not true, and you go to jail.

If you present forged documents, your message is NOT true, and you get sued for libel.


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thats a good example of the Bush administrations warped priorities

Bush had nothing to do with it; it's the FCC's rules regarding public decency.

[QUOTE=Theocracatic States]First of all, if the parapeligic was hit by a friendly grenade, how does this mean it was his Grenade.

Second, when did the New York Times become an unreliable source.

And finally MKULTRA at first I thought you were an overzealous liberal democrat but now I see you are just a communist.

"Its more important to persue the truth first and let the facts adjust themselves to it later."

This is just pushing for the removal of actual truth and replacing it with sponsored truth.
QUOTE]

MiniTruth, newspeak and doublethink, anyone? This thread looks like 1984 threw up.

Bush had nothing to do with it; it's the FCC's rules regarding public decency.
who appoints the members of the FCC? ;)

but his secretary said that was the feeling around the office. though his family would know him at home, the secretary, you know, works there
However, the secretary is known to have a political bias and did not work purely for Killian. She was the secretary for several officers at the same time. The least CBS should have done would be investigate the accuracy of the documents more thoroughly before making such a political blunder.
Now we merely need to investigate how deep the rabbit hole goes and get to the bottom of this mess.

who appoints the members of the FCC? ;)

What does that have to do with this thread?

who appoints the members of the FCC? ;)
The President appoints the five commissioners that direct the FCC, but they must be confirmed by the SENATE and they are afterwards directly responsible to CONGRESS.
The President has absolutely no control of them after they are appointed, unless they plan on going in for an extra 5-year term.

However, the secretary is known to have a political bias and did not work purely for Killian. She was the secretary for several officers at the same time. The least CBS should have done would be investigate the accuracy of the documents more thoroughly before making such a political blunder.
Now we merely need to investigate how deep the rabbit hole goes and get to the bottom of this mess.

She has a political bias? This is the first I've ever heard of this, or are you just assuming that anyone who criticizes the Republicans has a political bias (a defense technique I see ALL to often.)

its mentally ill to think that consensual sex is immoral--and what does marriage have to do with sex anyway?
At least attempt to become familiar with someone's religious beliefs before disregarding them.
If you want to attempt to disprove Christianity, go right ahead, but do try to set up a different thread before this one goes off on too many tangents for even your spamming to keep up with.

MKULTRA, please stop trying to be a crackpot conspiracy theorist. That job's already taken- by me! ;)

What does that have to do with this thread?
I dont know--its an issue ModAlert keeps obsessing on

However, the secretary is known to have a political bias and did not work purely for Killian. She was the secretary for several officers at the same time. The least CBS should have done would be investigate the accuracy of the documents more thoroughly before making such a political blunder.
Now we merely need to investigate how deep the rabbit hole goes and get to the bottom of this mess.
Hey I recognize your name from the Jolt Forum

She has a political bias? This is the first I've ever heard of this, or are you just assuming that anyone who criticizes the Republicans has a political bias (a defense technique I see ALL to often.)
She is a known Democrat, but I will concede that that is no reason to disregard someone's testimony. However, her testimony was contradicted by two others who were Killian's family, so CBS still has a lot to answer for in disregarding the contrary evidence and pressing forward with a doubtful story.

MKULTRA, please stop trying to be a crackpot conspiracy theorist. That job's already taken- by me! ;)
our conspiracys are closer to the truth then all the spin of the corporate pig media

She is a known Democrat, but I will concede that that is no reason to disregard someone's testimony. However, her testimony was contradicted by two others who were Killian's family, so CBS still has a lot to answer for in disregarding the contrary evidence and pressing forward with a doubtful story.
Killians family coulda been bought off by the Bushies

Killians family coulda been bought off by the Bushies
True, it is possible, but then again, the secretary could have been bought off by the Kerrys and we truly do nothing to advance this conspiracy theory.

Whomever commented about 1984, could you tell me, were you critizising my post?

True, it is possible, but then again, the secretary could have been bought off by the Kerrys and we truly do nothing to advance this conspiracy theory.

Except of course, the stroy run by the Air Force newspaper (The Air Force Times) itself that concluded that Bush, indeed, did not fulfill his service, based on authenticated documents already in existence.

In other words, those memos were hardly necessary to build the case against Bush.

but his secretary said that was the feeling around the office. though his family would know him at home, the secretary, you know, works there
Yeah, the secretary would know what he thought...8, maybe 9 hours a day, 5 days a week. Out of 168 hours in a week, she got to know what the man thought a total of 45 hours a week, tops. That leaves his family, at the least, 123 hours a week to have no clue what the man thought, or what he did...right?

Straws.

MKULTRA, you need to stop with the conspiracy theories.


You have no idea what you are getting in to.....

Bush owes France an apology--it turns out that France was correct about Iraq not having WMDs afterall

France should apologize to us for backstabbing. We even stated that you shouldn't vote for this resolution if your not going to back it up with the second resolution. France signed on to it as did Russia and China and Britain and Pakistan and the rest of the Security Council. However, when it came time for the 2nd resolution, France vowed to VETO it. That is what pissed America off. Not the fact that they vowed to veto it but the fact that they agreed to 1441 and then vowed to use its veto on the 2nd one.

Get your facts straight MKULTRA