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Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 18:09
America is the best country on the face of the Earth, lets debate why or why not you agree.

I had no idea my thread would cause such a debate, getting a bit off track though, anyway, this isnt meant to be anti anything, or at least it wasnt its simply an opiniated debate about which country you think is the best and you can argue about it, enough anti-American stuff, enough anti-Britain stuff enough anti everything. Of course you can say reasons why not, but dont do this, dont critisize the hell out of ones personal favorite countrys.
Sgt Peppers LHCB
24-08-2004, 18:15
America is the best country on the face of the Earth, lets debate why or why not you agree.

Why would anyone disagree? They couldnt go too far anyway, America is the best country, my ancestors lived here since the begining, 1630, it was like the first boat after the Mayflower! Europe had their chance to overpass us, or to crush us when we were new, now there jealous. They are all jealous of our amazing power economy, and influence on the rest of the world. And our patriotism. Go America! USA USA USA USA USA USA!
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 18:23
or not. I'm a proud european.
I don't think any of us is the better, we all just keep showing what we got. Look at this, a brand new weapon! It can kill millions of innocent chidlren, isn't that amazing!!??! The next day, the ameicans come up with something even worse and it goes on. STOP IT THERE, okey?

We don't need another cold war, what we need is peace! And do we get peace with two superpowers competing against eachother? No, we don't.

MORE POWER TO THE UN!!

//btw, i'm from sweden. Anymore swedes who thinking the same? congrats, your normal..
Talthia
24-08-2004, 18:23
Nice try, wrong section. And may I laugh at your preposterous pro-US remarks? Hahahaha... Yes, that feels better... :cool:

(I'd be willing to actually debate if this wasn't in the wrong part of the forums)
Sirens of Titan
24-08-2004, 18:23
Whyh would anyone disagree? They couldnt go too far anyway, America is the best country, my ancestors lived here since the begining, 1630, it was like the first boat after the Mayflower! Europe had their chance to overpass us, or to crush us when we were new, now there jealous. They are all jealous of our amazing power econemy, and influence on the rest of the world. And our patriotizm. Go America! USA USA USA USA USA USA!

Good job on making yourself look like a fool. It's patriotism not patriotizm and econemy is still spelled like this: economy. Begining is still beginning... There should be they're.

Go American education! USA USA USA USA USA!

EDIT: I can't find whyh in websters... Oh wait you can't read. Sorry
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 18:25
Hell yeah! We rule! I was just in Italy, I wanted to take out a gun and kill someone everytime I saw a "go home Yankee" or "Americans go home" or "tourists leave" Than I remembered that not only did grafeeti start in America, (or at least we made in really really popular) but so much of their econemy is based on tourism, and American tourism in peticular that if we all left, they would be a lot poorer, than somewhere somebody said, America has no culture, right, we have no culture, except for Jazz, Rap, Rock n 'Roll, Hip-Hop and almost all music after the year 1900 (so leave out classical, who cares) so we started all of music, and they listen to it, its funny how ignorant people can be. Really really funny.
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 18:28
Hell yeah! We rule! I was just in Italy, I wanted to take out a gun and kill someone everytime I saw a "go home Yankee" or "Americans go home" or "tourists leave" Than I remembered that not only did grafeeti start in America, (or at least we made in really really popular) but so much of their econemy is based on tourism, and American tourism in peticular that if we all left, they would be a lot poorer, than somewhere somebody said, America has no culture, right, we have no culture, except for Jazz, Rap, Rock n 'Roll, Hip-Hop and almost all music after the year 1900 (so leave out classical, who cares) so we started all of music, and they listen to it, its funny how ignorant people can be. Really really funny.
Yeah right. And don't forget blues. Thousands of SLAVES started that one.
All poor innocent slaves, drag to america. It was they who built your land, so don't come and say we owe you anything, cause YOU owe others.
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 18:30
Good job on making yourself look like a fool. It's patriotism not patriotizm and econemy is still spelled like this: economy. Begining is still beginning... There should be they're.

Go American education! USA USA USA USA USA!

EDIT: I can't find whyh in websters... Oh wait you can't read. Sorry


Maybe he typed fast and didn't pay attention, or he is not a good speller, neither was Einstein.

And yes this is the wrong part of the forum, but its gotten to be a very interesting topic.
Talthia
24-08-2004, 18:32
Maybe he typed fast and didn't pay attention, or he is not a good speller, neither was Einstein.

And yes this is the wrong part of the forum, but its gotten to be a very interesting topic.
No it isn't really. Its a pointless vague question with no real answer and has been rehashed before on these forums.
Reformed Velmora
24-08-2004, 18:32
And the reason why you need the self-satisfaction of having your nation labelled as the "best" or "greatest" is? What the hell is the point? Way to allow people who are not from America become closer to you, and I might add, I am British, and there are many reasons why I would prefer to live where I am than America.

Health care, crime (guns), laws, goverment, your fast food and such, your politicians (bush anyone?), a lot of your television, your patrotis (ever hear a British person say "God bless Britain"? God bless India? God bless Iraq? Do you realise how stupid it sounds?) just to name a few reasons.

That being said, there are plenty of good points about America, and I enjoy American people and such. There are good points and bad points, just as there are in Britain. The thing is, I don't find the need to advocate my nation as the "best" simply to improve my ego in some small way by chanting "GREAT BRIT-AIN! GREAT BRIT-AIN!" and wanting to prove to everyone else how great my homeland is.
Sarzonia
24-08-2004, 18:33
Mods, please move this thread or something.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 18:33
The Italians had slaves in the Roman Empire. England banned slavery in the 1830's.

Also, I never say God Bless America.... I'm an Atheist.
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 18:33
Yeah right. And don't forget blues. Thousands of SLAVES started that one.
All poor innocent slaves, drag to america. It was they who built your land, so don't come and say we owe you anything, cause YOU owe others.

Hey if it wasnt for slavery they would be starving in Africa, and dont forget, we were still a very new country then I know some black people who admit that slavery did bring them here and so it wasnt all bad, England had slaves when they were about, oh say, 1000 years old! we were about 90 years old, oh but of course you knew that right? Right? Of course you educated Europeans knew that, of course, so your point was.....
Morathania
24-08-2004, 18:35
Wrong Forum dumbass. This should be in General not in International Incidents. If you would like to know what can be posted in this forum read the sticky "FYI: What you should NOT post in International Incidents" that should tell you what you can post in this particular forum. This is for the General Forum. Its near the bottom of the main forum page. MODS PLEASE MOVE THIS TO GENERAL
McLeod03
24-08-2004, 18:36
OOC: Guys. Wrong Forum. This should be in General. International Incidents is for roleplaying purposes, not general OOC discussions.

Mods, you may wanna move this. Or delete/lock it before the situation devolves into an OOC flamefest.
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 18:36
And the reason why you need the self-satisfaction of having your nation labelled as the "best" or "greatest" is? What the hell is the point? Way to allow people who are not from America become closer to you, and I might add, I am British, and there are many reasons why I would prefer to live where I am than America.

Health care, crime (guns), laws, goverment, your fast food and such, your politicians (bush anyone?), a lot of your television, your patrotis (ever hear a British person say "God bless Britain"? God bless India? God bless Iraq? Do you realise how stupid it sounds?) just to name a few reasons.

That being said, there are plenty of good points about America, and I enjoy American people and such. There are good points and bad points, just as there are in Britain. The thing is, I don't find the need to advocate my nation as the "best" simply to improve my ego in some small way by chanting "GREAT BRIT-AIN! GREAT BRIT-AIN!" and wanting to prove to everyone else how great my homeland is.

Hey dont get me wrong, I love Italy, not so much the people, unless there nice, and Britain is pretty cool, (after the war of 1812) Im not really anti-Euro, Im just a very patriotic American.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 18:36
yeah, stupid thread anyway...twats
Sirens of Titan
24-08-2004, 18:37
Wrong Forum dumbass. This should be in General not in International Incidents. If you would like to know what can be posted in this forum read the sticky "FYI: What you should NOT post in International Incidents" that should tell you what you can post in this particular forum. This is for the General Forum. Its near the bottom of the main forum page. MODS PLEASE MOVE THIS TO GENERAL

Funny how you call people dumbass and then request something from a mod...
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 18:37
The Italians had slaves in the Roman Empire. England banned slavery in the 1830's.

Also, I never say God Bless America.... I'm an Atheist.I know, slavery sucks. But both england and italy doesn't say they were the ones who are the best, they were the only ones who built their country. Besides, england and italy doesn't brag about being big, powerful, filled with fatty food or inventing all kinds of music.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 18:38
I know, slavery sucks. But both england and italy doesn't say they were the ones who are the ebst, they were the only ones who built their country. Besides, england and italy doesn't brag about being big, powerful, filled with fatty food or inventing all kinds of music.
yeah, you tell em :mp5:
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 18:39
Since when does Knightsoftheroundtable represent the United States? Maybe the South...
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 18:39
Its only a matter of time before the US collapses in on itself
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 18:41
Its only a matter of time before the US collapses in on itselfTotally agree. When the WHOLE WORLD says no war, USA goes to war.

EDIT: No, that was cruel of me. i meant BUSH goes to war, sorry.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 18:41
Its only a matter of time before the US collapses in on itself
sooner the better for the world methinks
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 18:42
I know, slavery sucks. But both england and italy doesn't say they were the ones who are the ebst, they were the only ones who built their country. Besides, england and italy doesn't brag about being big, powerful, filled with fatty food or inventing all kinds of music.


What!! Since when did England build England, stupid, England was founded by the Roman Empire, ever heard of a city called Londinium? Now known as London? Besides we build 37 states, Romans built most of England cause its pretty small, and fatty foods, who cares if were fat, who frekin cares. Is it a problem, no it means we wont go hungry anytime soon, and last time I checked Europe had McDonalds too, its not bad for yu unless you eat it a lot.

And yes whoever started this put it in the wrong section, wow, big deal, get someone to move it! Until then, stop telling us, we know allready!
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 18:44
and who were you founded by?, sure there were some brits in there somewhere, til thoughts of world domination began :)and the romans were only part of the history, you forget the french, and the germans...
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 18:46
England was originally celtic lands, until the Romans under Caesar, and then Hadrian, invaded and conquered up to Scotland. Once the empire collapsed, the Anglo-Saxons invaded from Germany, then the Vikings from Scandinavia, then the Normans from France.

The USA, or the thirteen colonies, were british colonies, but the majority of the continent was either French or Spanish. Brazil, of course, was Portuguese. However, there are more persons of Polish or German descent in the USA than English.
Sgt Peppers LHCB
24-08-2004, 18:47
and who were you founded by?, sure there were some brits in there somewhere, til thoughts of world domination began :)

Yeah, I know about that, I was just saying that England wasnt self built, we are not up for world domination. Its just our idiot president. And one thing. Italy, Spain, England, Philipines, South Korea, Japan and many more. Are all in this war with us we are trend setters, you are followers, we are up here, you are down there.
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 18:47
What!! Since when did England build England, stupid, England was founded by the Roman Empire, ever heard of a city called Londinium? Now known as London? Besides we build 37 states, Romans built most of England cause its pretty small, and fatty foods, who cares if were fat, who frekin cares. Is it a problem, no it means we wont go hungry anytime soon, and last time I checked Europe had McDonalds too, its not bad for yu unless you eat it a lot.

And yes whoever started this put it in the wrong section, wow, big deal, get someone to move it! Until then, stop telling us, we know allready!
Yeah really? Go american education...lol. You do know that the roman empire fell under barbarians, and the barbarians also came to england, or britain (britannica), and several tribes where created. It was from that England appeared.
And regarding you states, it wasn't you who built them, it was those african slves who built 'em for you! And they collected foods for you, and they washed clothes for you, etc. You know what, why should we eat at McDonalds who serve infected meat, when we can go to Max Hamburgare and eat swedish meat?
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 18:49
Knights of the round, i have to admit, its not every day you still see someone as openly insane as you. Ignorant? You have a cheek to talk..... American life is messed. Not all are corrupt, obese delinquants, but the majority are.... I suppose you voted for Bush. America has pushed the world down the downward spiral, and is adding more wieght all the time. America isnt great, its a shitehole...

P.S. can any Americans here tell my the country of orogin for the TV?
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 18:51
Yeah really? Go american education...lol. You do know that the roman empire fell under barbarians, and the barbarians also came to england, or britain (britannica), and several tribes where created. It was from that England appeared.
And regarding you states, it wasn't you who built them, it was those african slves who built 'em for you! And they collected foods for you, and they washed clothes for you, etc. You know what, why should we eat at McDonalds who serve infected meat, when we can go to Max Hamburgare and eat swedish meat?

There weren't any slaves in the northern states.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 18:51
Also, England did make England, as a lot of English people as descendants of the Romans. Not that im English myself....
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 18:52
Go Glasgae. Repeat what I said earlier in another manner. You make for a good European representative. Also, I am sorry that TV History was not a class I took in High School.

Can you tell me where the concept of a General Staff, or, more broadly, the concept of a modern army originated?
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 18:54
Go Glasgae. Repeat what I said earlier in another manner. You make for a good European representative. Also, I am sorry that TV History was not a class I took in High School.

Can you tell me where the concept of a General Staff, or, more broadly, the concept of a modern army originated?
Nazi-Germany and it's blitzkrieg?
Castillanos
24-08-2004, 18:54
Yeah, I know about that, I was just saying that England wasnt self built, we are not up for world domination. Its just our idiot president. And one thing. Italy, Spain, England, Philipines, South Korea, Japan and many more. Are all in this war with us we are trend setters, you are followers, we are up here, you are down there.

You ignorant old hag.
Aust
24-08-2004, 18:54
What!! Since when did England build England, stupid, England was founded by the Roman Empire, ever heard of a city called Londinium? Now known as London? Besides we build 37 states, Romans built most of England cause its pretty small, and fatty foods, who cares if were fat, who frekin cares. Is it a problem, no it means we wont go hungry anytime soon, and last time I checked Europe had McDonalds too, its not bad for yu unless you eat it a lot.

And yes whoever started this put it in the wrong section, wow, big deal, get someone to move it! Until then, stop telling us, we know allready!

Wrong Forum, but as itll be moved this comment caught my eye.

The Romans did first take Britian from the people living there (Can't rember what there names where, I think it was Picts,) And they increased the size of many of the places there and changed rthere names. But there already was a village/small town on the site of London. The Romans just made it bigger. Also it's generally accepted that thought the Romans where the first to uninise Britian howver it was King Knut (Canute) Who first unionised modern England. Bringing together the south and the north.

Thats the end of the History lesson, and onto the other stuff,

I balive that America is not the Greatest nation due to many things (No public healthcare, guns, to much fast food, no decent education systerm, Bush ect.) I don't think anywhere is the best, but eatehr Italy or New Zealand come close.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 18:55
also the concepts of "Shoot-first" and "Profit for pride"
Sgt Peppers LHCB
24-08-2004, 18:55
Knights of the round, i have to admit, its not every day you still see someone as openly insane as you. Ignorant? You have a cheek to talk..... American life is messed. Not all are corrupt, obese delinquants, but the majority are.... I suppose you voted for Bush. America has pushed the world down the downward spiral, and is adding more wieght all the time. America isnt great, its a shitehole...

P.S. can any Americans here tell my the country of orogin for the TV?

I voted for AL Gore, and next John Kerry. Bush sucks, and were not corrupt, were not all fat, ifyou look at a graph the further south east you go the more fat thee is, where I live (Colorado) maybe 2/10 people are obese, that was what I saw just a month ago, Im not saying we dont have problems but we are still young believe it or not, when you were 300 you were probebly invading other countrys too, and its not our choice, there our proetestors in NYC as we speak. You see, people still Immigrate to America, we still get the worlds most Immigrants, so we cant really be too bad.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 18:56
Nazi-Germany and it's blitzkrieg?

No, Congratulations, you are an idiot.

Pre-Germany, General Johann David von Scharnhorst, who was a veteran of the Napleonic Wars, proposed it to Koenig Friedrich Wilhelm III, who implemented some of the reforms (but not all).
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 18:57
Wrong Forum, but as itll be moved this comment caught my eye.

The Romans did first take Britian from the people living there (Can't rember what there names where, I think it was Picts,) And they increased the size of many of the places there and changed rthere names. But there already was a village/small town on the site of London. The Romans just made it bigger. Also it's generally accepted that thought the Romans where the first to uninise Britian howver it was King Knut (Canute) Who first unionised modern England. Bringing together the south and the north.

Thats the end of the History lesson, and onto the other stuff,

I balive that America is not the Greatest nation due to many things (No public healthcare, guns, to much fast food, no decent education systerm, Bush ect.) I don't think anywhere is the best, but eatehr Italy or New Zealand come close.

Apparently you are an idiot too, since you left out the Anglo-Saxons, the Vikings, and the Normans.

Also, Italy is a horrible nation, with absolutely no notion of separation of church and state.
Jebustan
24-08-2004, 18:57
Statistically, Norway is the best country on Earth. US is #6. Look it up for yourself:
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/07/10/un.list/index.html
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 18:58
Haha.... It isnt very hard to find out where TV was invented, but give it a shot without looking..... also, I dont really care if i repeated what you said earlier, as I was just posting what i thought, i didnt look throught the whole thread. I dont know why Americans think so much of themselves. Blind patriotism, i think. That would be the reason they threw off British monarchy in the revolution, but remain to this day very interested in what happens to the, supporting them as if they were still British... Down with the queen, anyway. Aye, ya cunts, yae widnae expect tha wid yae?
Sgt Peppers LHCB
24-08-2004, 18:59
Wrong Forum, but as itll be moved this comment caught my eye.

The Romans did first take Britian from the people living there (Can't rember what there names where, I think it was Picts,) And they increased the size of many of the places there and changed rthere names. But there already was a village/small town on the site of London. The Romans just made it bigger. Also it's generally accepted that thought the Romans where the first to uninise Britian howver it was King Knut (Canute) Who first unionised modern England. Bringing together the south and the north.

Thats the end of the History lesson, and onto the other stuff,

I balive that America is not the Greatest nation due to many things (No public healthcare, guns, to much fast food, no decent education systerm, Bush ect.) I don't think anywhere is the best, but eatehr Italy or New Zealand come close.

lets see, learn to spell, learn to spell, and learn to spell. Fast Food really doesnt make a country bad, we are slowly porgressing toward cheaper and soon free health care, Bush is temporary, very temporary, and our education is great, at least better than yours.
Jebustan
24-08-2004, 18:59
or not. I'm a proud european.
I don't think any of us is the better, we all just keep showing what we got. Look at this, a brand new weapon! It can kill millions of innocent chidlren, isn't that amazing!!??! The next day, the ameicans come up with something even worse and it goes on. STOP IT THERE, okey?

We don't need another cold war, what we need is peace! And do we get peace with two superpowers competing against eachother? No, we don't.

MORE POWER TO THE UN!!

//btw, i'm from sweden. Anymore swedes who thinking the same? congrats, your normal..

I'm not Swedish, but I agree.
Also, are you a hot blonde Swedish chick, or a guy?
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 18:59
Hey, i never said anything about Canada. I like Cananda
Ravea
24-08-2004, 19:00
Austria.

That's all i'm saying.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:00
When did I insult Europeans? No, I insulted YOU. There is a difference. Blind British, thinking THEY are Europe.

Also, it was probably invented in Germany or Canada.
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:00
Apparently you are an idiot too, since you left out the Anglo-Saxons, the Vikings, and the Normans.
I skipped them, The Anglo Saxions where the ones who where pushed back by the Vikings, they also took over Britian after the inital invasion from Germany by many epoples, including the Angles, the Saxons and the Jutes. (They had for or 5 kingdoms if I rember correctly only the south one, Wessex, survived. the Viking invasion.) Knut, (Canute) was a viking who was made King and united Danelaw and Wessex. After him it remained pritty much together. Then The Normans took over britain. [b]However they did NOT form a new Britian just took it over. Thus my esclusion of them.
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 19:00
I voted for AL Gore, and next John Kerry. Bush sucks, and were not corrupt, were not all fat, ifyou look at a graph the further south east you go the more fat thee is, where I live (Colorado) maybe 2/10 people are obese, that was what I saw just a month ago, Im not saying we dont have problems but we are still young believe it or not, when you were 300 you were probebly invading other countrys too, and its not our choice, there our proetestors in NYC as we speak. You see, people still Immigrate to America, we still get the worlds most Immigrants, so we cant really be too bad.
They aren't immigrants, they come to the US to sell guns and drugs. (j/k)
I believe all nations are great in different things, USA gives alot of movies for example, Germany has alot of nice cars etc. And i totally agree whit Aust.
Castillanos
24-08-2004, 19:01
1. Norway

2. Australia

3. Canada

4. Sweden

5. Belgium

6. United States

7. Iceland

8. Netherlands

9. Japan

10. Finland

That's interesting, I thought that the U.K would be in the top ten, and that Switzerland would be #1...
imported_Pongo
24-08-2004, 19:02
Its only a matter of time before the US collapses in on itself
So true considering that they have a trade deficit of about half a trillion. (or some of form of deficit.)

But if there econ. does collapse, there goes the Canadian and mexician econ. right down with if (Canada export 87% of the export to the US, and Mexico does 89% of the exports to US.http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/ was used as Reference
). So when it does happen (and don't get my wrong I hope there reduced back down to a simple power) I hope it happens slowly so Can. and Mex. can find new trade partners, and avoid a internation martket crash.
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:02
[QOUTE]1. Norway

2. Australia

3. Canada

4. Sweden

5. Belgium

6. United States

7. Iceland

8. Netherlands

9. Japan

10. Finland



That's interesting, I thought that the U.K would be in the top ten, and that Switzerland would #1...
So would I, and America in the top ten....!" :wall:
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:02
I skipped them, The Anglo Saxions where the ones who where pushed back by the Vikings (They had for or 5 kingdoms if I rember correctly only the south one, Wessex, survived. the Viking invasion.) Knut, (Canute) was a viking who was made King and united Danelaw and Wessex. After him it remained pritty much together. Then The Normans took over britain. [b]However they did NOT form a new Britian just took it over. Thus my esclusion of them.

Now you have officially received the title of "Historical Idiot"

The Anglo-Saxons settled before the vikings, up to the border of Scotland (like the Romans). The Vikings invaded around 2 centuries later, and the Normans, around 1 century after that.

The Anglo-Saxons made "Britain", if you are referring to England. Wales was, and still is, a celtic area, as was Scotland and Ireland.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:03
lets see, learn to spell, learn to spell, and learn to spell. Fast Food really doesnt make a country bad, we are slowly porgressing toward cheaper and soon free health care, Bush is temporary, very temporary, and our education is great, at least better than yours.
no, it makes you fat! and the educational thing is a bit questionable...history for example
Sgt Peppers LHCB
24-08-2004, 19:03
Knights of the round, i have to admit, its not every day you still see someone as openly insane as you. Ignorant? You have a cheek to talk..... American life is messed. Not all are corrupt, obese delinquants, but the majority are.... I suppose you voted for Bush. America has pushed the world down the downward spiral, and is adding more wieght all the time. America isnt great, its a shitehole...

P.S. can any Americans here tell my the country of orogin for the TV?

I believe TV started in England
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:04
Scandanavia is pretty much the best place to live on earth. Unless you dont like paying around £5 for a pint.
In which case you want the Czech Rep where it can be as low as 25p per pint
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:04
You're wrong, but i must say, you did good.... you didnt say America. Anyway, Britain isnt Europe... a lot of people are trying to get out of Europe, not to be part of it.... sad people, of course, people who think someone who'se skin is darker than peach is scum.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:04
I looked it up after giving my answer, I was correct, it was Germany.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:04
Come on, the answer is not too hard... Pepper, you were close
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 19:05
I'm not Swedish, but I agree.
Also, are you a hot blonde Swedish chick, or a guy?
Hahaha, my girlfriend is hot and blonde, and ofcourse swedish...
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:05
You're wrong, but i must say, you did good.... you didnt say America. Anyway, Britain isnt Europe... a lot of people are trying to get out of Europe, not to be part of it.... sad people, of course, people who think someone who'se skin is darker than peach is scum.

Would you like me to prove the order of succession among conquerers of the British Isles?
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:06
No it wasnt Germany. If you DID look it up, then it must be a very inaccurate site...
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:07
No, i know perfectly well what the order of invasions was....
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:07
Hahaha, my girlfriend is hot and blonde, and ofcourse swedish...
really, she got any sisters? :)
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:07
Paul Gottlieb Nipkow proposed and patented the first electromechanical television system in 1884. Nipkow's spinning disk design is credited with being the first television image rasterizer, but it is believed that he never built a prototype to prove the design (it wasn't until 1907 that developments in amplification tube technology made the design practical).

Paul Gottlieb Nipkow was a German engineer from Pomerania (which is now a part of Poland I beleive).



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Celts
Romans
Anglo-Saxons
Normans
Anglo-Saxons took over again
Castillanos
24-08-2004, 19:07
I think Television began in France...
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 19:08
No it wasnt Germany. If you DID look it up, then it must be a very inaccurate site...
it was an american site lol. No, sorry for that one, i've said mine so now you know what i think. This discussion has no goal.
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:09
lets see, learn to spell, learn to spell, and learn to spell. Fast Food really doesnt make a country bad, we are slowly porgressing toward cheaper and soon free health care, Bush is temporary, very temporary, and our education is great, at least better than yours.
As far as I know Britians Eduaction systerm is better than Americas, also I'm Dyslxic, in case you didn't know it's a gentic desise(Or passed on genticly) So I can't do much about it. Sorry.

You are progressing like that, however at the moment you wouldn't come on my top Ten, sorry.

My Top Five would be:

1) Switzaland
2) New Zealand
3) Italy
4) Australlia
5) Canada
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:09
Unless you are referring to the first built television, and not the first patented plans for one, which was designed in the Russian Empire circa 1910 by Boris Rosing.
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 19:09
really, she got any sisters? :)Yeah, as many as you wish....in your dreams. hehe. :P
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:10
it doesnt have any goal, it was just a test to see who said america, i didnt think it would progress like this. As far as I know, the TV was invented in Scotland
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:10
Also, personally I do not beleive Dyslexia is a disease, I beleive it is an unwillingness to learn that keeps the child from attempting to learn.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:10
Indeed,
John Logie Baird
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:11
it doesnt have any goal, it was just a test to see who said america, i didnt think it would progress like this. As far as I know, the TV was invented in Scotland

The first patent for a television was by Paul Gottlieb Nipkow in the German Empire.
The first actual prototype built was by Boris Rosing in the Russian Empire.
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 19:11
As far as I know Britians Eduaction systerm is better than Americas, also I'm Dyslxic, in case you didn't know it's a gentic desise(Or passed on genticly) So I can't do much about it. Sorry.

You are progressing like that, however at the moment you wouldn't come on my top Ten, sorry.

My Top Five would be:

1) Switzaland
2) New Zealand
3) Italy
4) Australlia
5) Canada

Heres my top 5

1)USA
2)Canada
3)Britain
4)Italy
5)Spain
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:12
Now you have officially received the title of "Historical Idiot"

The Anglo-Saxons settled before the vikings, up to the border of Scotland (like the Romans). The Vikings invaded around 2 centuries later, and the Normans, around 1 century after that.

The Anglo-Saxons made "Britain", if you are referring to England. Wales was, and still is, a celtic area, as was Scotland and Ireland.
It was, however if you read my posts propaly you would notice I made no mation of dates. Also they did not make England, they had Seperate KIng doms. I was refering to England.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:12
Also, personally I do not beleive Dyslexia is a disease, I beleive it is an unwillingness to learn that keeps the child from attempting to learn.
bit uneducated yourself then?
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:12
Spain and Italy are horrible countries, IMO. Too Religious, and their government are based on Catholocism.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:12
attican, you are sad. it is genetic, how can you blame them by saying they are unwilling to learn? in my country, people who dont want to learn skip classes or disrupt them the best they can so the can can get sent outside the classroom
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 19:12
Also, personally I do not beleive Dyslexia is a disease, I beleive it is an unwillingness to learn that keeps the child from attempting to learn.That was low. Many of my relativs have it, it IS genetical. But even tough they have, almost everyone of 'em got great grades in school. Even better than mine, and i do not have dyslexia.
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:13
Also, personally I do not beleive Dyslexia is a disease, I beleive it is an unwillingness to learn that keeps the child from attempting to learn.
Strange that, seeing as people such as Einstine where Dislexic.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:13
It was, however if you read my posts propaly you would notice I made no mation of dates. Also they did not make England, they had Seperate KIng doms. I was refering to England.

"England" is the region south of Scotland, and East of Wales. Now, the UNITED KINGDOM is Enland, Scotland & Wales.

attican, you are sad. it is genetic, how can you blame them by saying they are unwilling to learn? in my country, people who dont want to learn skip classes or disrupt them the best they can so the can can get sent outside the classroom

Prove it. Are you a geneticist? Then provide me with a Karyotype, and an outline of the gene(s) that produce Dyslexia. Good luck.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:14
my brother is dyslexic, didn't stop him getting a degree :)
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:14
And unless im very much mistaken, we've come a long way from being celtic, i can assure you, due to certain English "influences".... still, that is history, and i have forgiven english inow im maturing
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:15
attican, you are sad. it is genetic, how can you blame them by saying they are unwilling to learn? in my country, people who dont want to learn skip classes or disrupt them the best they can so the can can get sent outside the classroom
Agreed, there are plenty of people who in my school where Dislexic and caused trouble, but there where others who did well and tried to learn. One kid got 9 A GCSE's. I got 3 leval 7's in my SAT's, yep I don't want to learn do I.
Helveticuz
24-08-2004, 19:15
Spain and Italy are horrible countries, IMO. Too Religious, and their government are based on Catholocism.Not. Spain is a Social Democracy, just as in Sweden where i live. I do not know anything about italys government, but i do hate the nation. The only thing i like about it is the pasta, wich is awesome. I have my reasons, believe me.
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:16
"England" is the region south of Scotland, and East of Wales. Now, the UNITED KINGDOM is Enland, Scotland & Wales.

You are right, however the anglo Saxion Kingdoms did not expand any further (or not much) than current England.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:17
Spain and Italy are horrible countries, IMO. Too Religious, and their government are based on Catholocism.

I thought America was the country who had "god on thier side"....
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:17
Aust:
And it was an Anglo-Saxon King that united them, as well. Mercia, et cetera.

Also, are you Dyspraxic? Dysgraphic? Dyscalcic? Autistic?
imported_Pongo
24-08-2004, 19:17
Wrong Forum, but as itll be moved this comment caught my eye.

The Romans did first take Britian from the people living there (Can't rember what there names where, I think it was Picts,) And they increased the size of many of the places there and changed rthere names. But there already was a village/small town on the site of London. The Romans just made it bigger. Also it's generally accepted that thought the Romans where the first to uninise Britian howver it was King Knut (Canute) Who first unionised modern England. Bringing together the south and the north.

Thats the end of the History lesson, and onto the other stuff,

I balive that America is not the Greatest nation due to many things (No public healthcare, guns, to much fast food, no decent education systerm, Bush ect.) I don't think anywhere is the best, but eatehr Italy or New Zealand come close.

The picts were on the island frist then the celts can form the main land and captured the lower half of birtian, then were forced in Irland when the romans showed up. After that the celts split into 2 peoples the irish and the socts( who then finish off the ramianing pict tribe in what is now scotland). sometime in this mindless warring era of birttian the anglos and saxons couquered what is now England and found 4 large nations (saxony:south, northurm:north, mercia:middle, and some ofther one:east) and a few smaller once that don't real matter. And the whalish fit in the some where to (west). then came the vikings who at one point rule 2/3s of the anglo nations. but were kicked off some time later. followed by anglo rule over the isles.
Lord and Lady Tweedy
24-08-2004, 19:17
Hell yeah! We rule! I was just in Italy, I wanted to take out a gun and kill someone everytime I saw a "go home Yankee" or "Americans go home" or "tourists leave" Than I remembered that not only did grafeeti start in America, (or at least we made in really really popular) but so much of their econemy is based on tourism, and American tourism in peticular that if we all left, they would be a lot poorer, than somewhere somebody said, America has no culture, right, we have no culture, except for Jazz, Rap, Rock n 'Roll, Hip-Hop and almost all music after the year 1900 (so leave out classical, who cares) so we started all of music, and they listen to it, its funny how ignorant people can be. Really really funny.

So you are saying that after the year 1900 'you' started all music. That is your culture then, is it? Music from 1900 onwards? I got news for 'you', European culture, African culture, Asian culture ... Native American culture, etc., etc., goes way beyond 1900! You really must get someone to fight your corner much better than you are doing!
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:18
I thought America was the country who had "god on thier side"....
lol...
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:18
I thought America was the country who had "god on thier side"....

Stop generalizing the entire US population.
Castillanos
24-08-2004, 19:19
This is what I found, The most livable countries of 2004 according to the UN. The countries are as followed:

1. Norway
2. Sweden
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Netherlands
6. Belgium
7. Iceland
8. United States
9. Japan
10. Ireland
11. Switzerland
12. United Kingdom
13. Finland
14. Austria
15. Luxembourg
16. France
17. Denmark
18. New Zealand
19. Germany
20. Spain
21. Italy
22. Israel
23. Greece
24. Singapore
25. Portugal
26. Slovenia
27. South Korea
28. Barbados
29. Cyprus
30. Czech Republic
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:19
graffiti...america....did you show the cave painters how to do it then?
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:19
Aust:
And it was an Anglo-Saxon King that united them, as well. Mercia, et cetera.

Also, are you Dyspraxic? Dysgraphic? Dyscalcic? Autistic?
He claimed the tital but couldn'd hold them together, at one time a Northumblandian also claimed the title.

I am Dislexic.
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 19:19
Stop generalizing the entire US population.

Yes, thank you for saying that, were not all saying god bless America, its mainly Bush, who should go back to his Jesus coloring book.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:19
"One nation under God"
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:20
"One nation under God"

Quit your generalizations.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:20
Im not. i realise that there are a lot of non-believers in America, and a lot of them are as blindly patriotic. You just sort of struck me as the kind of guy who did belive that god was on thier side
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:21
He claimed the tital but couldn'd hold them together, at one time a Northumblandian also claimed the title.

I am Dislexic.

But which form of Dyslexia? I just stated the 4 variants.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:21
ok, how about
"In God we trust"
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:21
Got to go, continue this later.

Aust.
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 19:22
This is what I found, The most livable countries of 2004 according to the UN. The countries are as followed:

1. Norway
2. Sweden
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Netherlands
6. Belgium
7. Iceland
8. United States
9. Japan
10. Ireland
11. Switzerland
12. United Kingdom
13. Finland
14. Austria
15. Luxembourg
16. France
17. Denmark
18. New Zealand
19. Germany
20. Spain
21. Italy
22. Israel
23. Greece
24. Singapore
25. Portugal
26. Slovenia
27. South Korea
28. Barbados
29. Cyprus
30. Czech Republic

Israel 22

funny everyone was saying how the US was founded by Britain that is somewhat true, but it is also true that the US gave tons of money to such countrys as Israel and Germany, there are many others but those are just examples, keep that in mind.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:22
i am getting really pissed off that everyone is calling the united kingdom a country... it is an area. scotland, england, ireland, and wales are countries
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:22
ok, how about
"In God we trust"

Did I ever state I (or the majority of the US population) supported the quotes stated that are used by the Republican party in order to consolidate their hold on the US economy and political system?
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:23
Who governs Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland?
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:23
i am getting really pissed off that everyone is calling the united kingdom a country... it is an area. scotland, england, ireland, and wales are countries
pisses me off too...i'm english, from england!
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:23
i am getting really pissed off that everyone is calling the united kingdom a country... it is an area. scotland, england, ireland, and wales are countries

They were unified, actually. The United Kingdom is a nation, Scotland, England, Wales, and Northern Ireland are kingdoms.
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 19:24
ok, how about
"In God we trust"

In England they do that, but instead of saying god like god they pronounce it The Queen. I believe that god is on all of their coins and paper money.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:24
Did I ever state I (or the majority of the US population) supported the quotes stated that are used by the Republican party in order to consolidate their hold on the US economy and political system?


its printed on your money
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:24
In England they do that, but instead of saying god like god they pronounce it The Queen. I believe that god is on all of their coins and paper money.
now you're being silly :)
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 19:25
They were unified, actually. The United Kingdom is a nation, Scotland, England, Wales, and Northern Ireland are kingdoms.

Only England is a semi-Kingdom, the others are countrys not monarchys
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:25
its printed on your money

And that means...? Because I have money that happens to say "In God We Trust", does that mean I instantly am forced to be a protestant or catholic?
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:25
unfortuantely, tony blair... but ireland is sperate. only northen ireland is drawn into that area. and besides, in the roman and british empires, all the countries were not named under one country, even though overall ruled by one man. why should this be different?
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:25
Only England is a semi-Kingdom, the others are countrys not monarchys

Scotland is a monarchy. So is Wales. Ireland is also.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:26
and the monarch of Scotland is?
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 19:27
Scotland is a monarchy. So is Wales. Ireland is also.

Your right what I meant to say was countrys and monarchys.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:27
Dead. He was killed in the Scottish Revolution. I do not know if he had any heirs.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:27
Attican, piss off. Scotland, wales and ireland all share the english queen. we are not monarchies. I dont here the words "King Of Scotland" used in present tense much these days....
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:27
and the royal family is less english than most of the population!, and have no real say in the running of the country
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:28
i suppose that makes us monarchies, but not seperate ones. even though she is the queen of england...
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:28
The British Royal Family is Hannovarian, and is more related to the Hohenzollerns (the former monarchs of Prussia) than to the British populace.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:29
Attican, piss off. Scotland, wales and ireland all share the english queen. we are not monarchies. I dont here the words "King Of Scotland" used in present tense much these days....

They are still kingdoms. The Kingdom of Ireland, the Kingdom of Scotland, the Kingdom of Wales. Just because they happen to be unified under a single throne at this time means absolutely nothing. The German Empire of 1871 to 1919 was the same thing, various German Monarchies under a single, Prussian Emperor.
Lord and Lady Tweedy
24-08-2004, 19:30
Knightsoftheroundtable, I hate to say this, but your level of factual discussion leaves a lot to be desired. How can anyone discuss a historical happening if your personal education and learning is so poor, slanted or even non-existent as to make any discussion a complete waste of time?
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 19:30
The British Royal Family is Hannovarian, and is more related to the Hohenzollerns (the former monarchs of Prussia) than to the British populace.

I dont get why They still have a royal family, thats so barbaric, and many English agree with me, they have to give them tax money and they just sit on there ass eating grapes all day. who else has a royal family? Oh yeah! Saudi-Arabia! Who our idiotic leader is good friends with.
Dailey
24-08-2004, 19:30
First of all the Americans suck but ya thats just Me and My Canadian Mind thinking

Secondly Who gives a hoot what the Royal Blood line is there still the Royal Family and still Have my Loyalty.

Thirdly i dont beleave this topic should be in International Isedents.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:31
I dont get why They still have a royal family, thats so barbaric, and many English agree with me, they have to give them tax money and they just sit on there ass eating grapes all day. who else has a royal family? Oh yeah! Saudi-Arabia! Who our idiotic leader is good friends with.

And Spain, and Denmark, and Bulgaria, and technically Germany, although the Hohenzollerns have not reclaimed the throne.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:32
ok, i have been proved wrong, and ill admit it. just as long as Scotland is not thought of as part of england... which brings us back to the american (under)education system, where a lot of kids are brought up to belive scotland is a city in england, or that we are infact, ireland
Saadar
24-08-2004, 19:32
Apparently you are an idiot too, since you left out the Anglo-Saxons, the Vikings, and the Normans.

Also, Italy is a horrible nation, with absolutely no notion of separation of church and state.

I'd think I'll remind you that Italy is one of the most secular goverments in Europe. You probably have a cobweb brain thinking back to the times of the Christian Democrats and the IDS Party during the 70's. Thats all over. Yes Italian politics are screwed, and I think thats what your trying to say, but make that clear, cause you could be saying you think the nation as a whole sucks.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:32
The British Monarchy act as wonderful ambassodors to the rest of the world.
Also they own some businesses so they make alot of their own money
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:33
yeah, i agree with you attican. the queen serves as nothing more than a hoover for our tax money.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:33
We are? The majority of my teachers made signifigant efforts to teach us about Europe.

Most people who have a high school education do not consider Scotland as part of England, but as part of the United Kingdom (which it is).
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:33
I dont get why They still have a royal family, thats so barbaric, and many English agree with me, they have to give them tax money and they just sit on there ass eating grapes all day. who else has a royal family? Oh yeah! Saudi-Arabia! Who our idiotic leader is good friends with.
agreed on that one, they are too outdated...an that f*****g diana thing...total waste of taxpayers money
Lord and Lady Tweedy
24-08-2004, 19:33
and the royal family is less english than most of the population!, and have no real say in the running of the country




The Queen's mother, Mary Bowes Lyon was Scottish.
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 19:33
And Spain, and Denmark, and Bulgaria, and technically Germany, although the Hohenzollerns have not reclaimed the throne.

I didnt name all of them I just simply named the one with the most influence Spains royal family isnt too strong either, they live in a mansion smaller than the white house, my friend told me that and he was born in Spain and he just got back form there after a two month visit which he does every summer so dont tell me its not factually based!
Kahta
24-08-2004, 19:34
I'd think I'll remind you that Italy is one of the most secular goverments in Europe. You probably have a cobweb brain thinking back to the times of the Christian Democrats and the IDS Party during the 70's. Thats all over. Yes Italian politics are screwed, and I think thats what your trying to say, but make that clear, cause you could be saying you think the nation as a whole sucks.

Italy still has crosses in every classroom.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:34
I'd think I'll remind you that Italy is one of the most secular goverments in Europe. You probably have a cobweb brain thinking back to the times of the Christian Democrats and the IDS Party during the 70's. Thats all over. Yes Italian politics are screwed, and I think thats what your trying to say, but make that clear, cause you could be saying you think the nation as a whole sucks.

I don't have a lot of respect for a nation that can't annex the Vatican.
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 19:35
yeah, i agree with you attican. the queen serves as nothing more than a hoover for our tax money.

Actually I said that
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:35
see :)
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:35
I didnt name all of them I just simply named the one with the most influence Spains royal family isnt too strong either, they live in a mansion smaller than the white house, my friend told me that and he was born in Spain and he just got back form there after a two month visit which he does every summer so dont tell me its not factually based!

Juan Carlos was trained by Franco, Franco created an ultra-fascist regime for him, Juan Carlos went and made democratic reforms, though.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:35
im sorry attican, im going a bit by the majority here. looks like you cant be right about everything.....
Kahta
24-08-2004, 19:35
I don't have a lot of respect for a nation that can't annex the Vatican.

I agree 100%.

I have no respect for Spain because they havent anexxed Andorra.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:35
Monarchies are one of the few things that bring us europeans above countries such as the US
Kahta
24-08-2004, 19:36
Lets not talk about civil war Spain, as it tends to attract Anarchists.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:36
im sorry attican, im going a bit by the majority here. looks like you cant be right about everything.....

I wasn't arguing for or against anything, I was just stating factual information....
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:36
Actually I said that

sorry, i didnt look far enough up the thread. but by agreeing with him, im agreeing with you.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:38
Monarchies are one of the few things that bring us europeans above countries such as the US
but why do we need one anymore?, they serve little purpose other than to promote nationalism...
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:38
I wasn't arguing for or against anything, I was just stating factual information....

i was saying that i was wrong. im still a bit young, and, it has to be said, fanatical. im also an anarchist.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:40
i was saying that i was wrong. im still a bit young, and, it has to be said, fanatical. im also an anarchist.

How can you be anarchist? The concept of "Anarchy" is the lack of a presence of any formal government. Once you remove government, you remove law and order. Crime would be rampant. Anarchy depends on people being able to be trusted to govern themselves, which Lenin's Soviet Union proved impossible.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:40
They remind us of our colourful history and as i said they are great ambassodors.
Its not as if they are stupid fat cats, the Queen does her best to support good causes and her opinion is very well respecetd
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:40
Monarchies are one of the few things that bring us europeans above countries such as the US

they dont bring us up any further, and monarchies like ours are bringing us lower.every country has its bas sides, but i think america, due to its large popultaion and its powerful position, is viewed as a common enemy. not saying its perect, of course. but arabs and the like may be taking it too far, involving civillians in it
Kahta
24-08-2004, 19:41
How can you be anarchist? The concept of "Anarchy" is the lack of a presence of any formal government. Once you remove government, you remove law and order. Crime would be rampant. Anarchy depends on people being able to be trusted to govern themselves, which Lenin's Soviet Union proved impossible.

I agree.
Kahta
24-08-2004, 19:42
they dont bring us up any further, and monarchies like ours are bringing us lower.every country has its bas sides, but i think america, due to its large popultaion and its powerful position, is viewed as a common enemy. not saying its perect, of course. but arabs and the like may be taking it too far, involving civillians in it

Oh come on. The only reason Bush was nominated was because of attack ads against McCain, and the only reason Bush won was because of his proposed tax plan which gave 2/3 of it to the top 1% of incomes.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:43
How can you be anarchist? The concept of "Anarchy" is the lack of a presence of any formal government. Once you remove government, you remove law and order. Crime would be rampant. Anarchy depends on people being able to be trusted to govern themselves, which Lenin's Soviet Union proved impossible.

i was using the term, because im very against the monarchy. im not a full-blown one, against all law and order, im juts saying i take my hate for the monarchy a little further than others....
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:44
just wondering what will happen when the uk finally splits, will the monarchy just be for england? or would the populations of the respective countries wish to keep them?
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:44
Oh come on. The only reason Bush was nominated was because of attack ads against McCain, and the only reason Bush won was because of his proposed tax plan which gave 2/3 of it to the top 1% of incomes.

did i say that bush was great? he's worse than any monarchy, and acts like he dropped out of primary school (or elementary school). and, he also won due to vote tampering, i think....
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 19:44
Anarchist != Liberal.
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:45
Splits? Not going to happen,
if anything, amalgamation is the current name of the game in europe
Of Capitalist Ideals
24-08-2004, 19:45
I don't think the US is the greatest country on Earth. I live in Canada about 1h ferry ride to Seattle.

just wondering what will happen when the uk finally splits, will the monarchy just be for england? or would the populations of the respective countries wish to keep them?

I don't their will be any difference. The Queen doesn't do anything except as a figure head she has no power in today's government. Although in many commonwealth countries the monarcy has absolute power to change laws and the like, but the power is just a holdover from the old empire and the power is essentially nonexistent. I Canada a law hasn't been voted in over a 100 years although ever law has to be approved my the monarcy befiore it actually becomes law.

1. your people are jackasses and think they rule the world both everyday situations and world politics. Iraq and many more covert like forcing other governments to change their foreign policy so thatit aligns with the US's.

2. the US is a stupid country. Take a look latest reporton education in developed countries. The US consistantly scores near the lowest, but spend the most.

I could go on, but I've got to go eat.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:46
Splits? Not going to happen,
if anything, amalgamation is the current name of the game in europe
i mean gain independence from the uk
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:48
thats what i mean aswell
There will be no indenpendance of Scotland, wales and northern ireland.
no one seriously wants it, and the whole is much greater than the sum of its parts
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:48
i mean gain independence from the uk

i want scotland to be free, but i dont think its a good idea. our politicans are barely better, and it would be a blow to economy. but it would be nice, also, not to be stereotyped as madman wearing kilts going around saying "och aye, Jimmy, hoots the noo"
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:50
Seems like the only one who wants to keep the monacy on here. I balive that it does more good and most of it's money is spent on helping people.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:50
maybe not, and there is no real need to
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:50
You think independance will stop the stereotypes? It will only strenghen them.
Mark my words, within the next 100 years borders will start dissappearing around europe
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:52
I don't have a lot of respect for a nation that can't annex the Vatican.
Just because they don't soen't mean they can't. America hasn't annexed Jamamaca, it dosn't mean it can't. They respect that the Vatican exists, they don't need to control it.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:52
You think independance will stop the stereotypes? It will only strenghen them.
Mark my words, within the next 100 years borders will start dissappearing around europe

hmm.... maybe so, but it couldnt be too bad, could it? anyway, hopefully by then we would all decide to use the euro
Zakastan
24-08-2004, 19:53
I'm all for it. It means there will be a superpower to pick up the pieces when the US shatters
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:53
Seems like the only one who wants to keep the monacy on here. I balive that it does more good and most of it's money is spent on helping people.
admittedly, they do some good work for charity etc. but they now have enough money to survive on thier own, we, as taxpayers, should not have to increase thier already enormous wealth
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:54
You think independance will stop the stereotypes? It will only strenghen them.
Mark my words, within the next 100 years borders will start dissappearing around europe
They already are. When I drove from France to Spain this holiday there where no boarder control and no customs. The nearest French offical building was the toll road booth up the road.
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:55
admittedly, they do some good work for charity etc. but they now have enough money to survive on thier own, we, as taxpayers, should not have to increase thier already enormous wealth
I agree they shouldn't get so much money. They should get enough to live, upkeep there houses and put to charitys.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 19:57
I'm all for it. It means there will be a superpower to pick up the pieces when the US shatters

i would like to agree, but i dont see that happening too soon, unless america gets a president which is a combination of Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher, a high-ranking BNP member, George Bush, a fanatically-patriotic person, and Sadam Hussien. Then we would all be f*&%ed
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 19:59
yorkshire?....same here....small world
Aust
24-08-2004, 19:59
i would like to agree, but i dont see that happening too soon, unless america gets a president which is a combination of Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher, a high-ranking BNP member, George Bush, a fanatically-patriotic person, and Sadam Hussien. Then we would all be f*&%ed

No, just get some of the ultra-patriotic guys in the white house, then America will be distroyed. I think it will happen soon. Any insult would be met with force.
Aust
24-08-2004, 20:00
yorkshire?....same here....small world
Yep.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:02
i would like to agree, but i dont see that happening too soon, unless america gets a president which is a combination of Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher, a high-ranking BNP member, George Bush, a fanatically-patriotic person, and Sadam Hussien. Then we would all be f*&%ed
thatcher....my god, what a scary thought
Kahta
24-08-2004, 20:02
I don't think the US is the greatest country on Earth. I live in Canada about 1h ferry ride to Seattle.

1. your people are jackasses and think they rule the world both everyday situations and world politics. Iraq and many more covert like forcing other governments to change their foreign policy so thatit aligns with the US's.

2. the US is a stupid country. Take a look latest reporton education in developed countries. The US consistantly scores near the lowest, but spend the most.

I could go on, but I've got to go eat.

1. Those people are ignorant idiots. The farthest they have traveled is 50 miles from their home. The people that do the other things would be the CIA.

2. Thats because the parents seem to think their kids need to learn how to read at school, not at home. It ranks highest in spending because we are the largest of the developed countries.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 20:02
I don't think the US is the greatest country on Earth. I live in Canada about 1h ferry ride to Seattle.



I don't their will be any difference. The Queen doesn't do anything except as a figure head she has no power in today's government. Although in many commonwealth countries the monarcy has absolute power to change laws and the like, but the power is just a holdover from the old empire and the power is essentially nonexistent. I Canada a law hasn't been voted in over a 100 years although ever law has to be approved my the monarcy befiore it actually becomes law.

1. your people are jackasses and think they rule the world both everyday situations and world politics. Iraq and many more covert like forcing other governments to change their foreign policy so thatit aligns with the US's.

2. the US is a stupid country. Take a look latest reporton education in developed countries. The US consistantly scores near the lowest, but spend the most.

I could go on, but I've got to go eat.

You 'nucks and your generalizations.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:02
No, just get some of the ultra-patriotic guys in the white house, then America will be distroyed. I think it will happen soon. Any insult would be met with force.

i shudder to think either would happen. but, if america fell, and europe was not united neough to take up thier mantle, then what would happen to the world? with no superpowers to suppress them, all sorts of nations would be attacking others. also, what would happen before america fell? if any large amount of nations united agaist america, we would surely see our first nuclear war?
NeoBorg
24-08-2004, 20:05
:headbang: I guess they ain't done so bad for a nation that was militarily occupied and stolen from the indigenous population, denying them inherent rights, freedoms and ownership. I don't ever recall a native American being allowed to represent US at anything significant.

It is a country riddled with anomolies, anachronisms, enigmas and injustices, so with regard to those situations, it can HONESTLY be said to rule.

Saddam Hussain ultimately will be put to death for making the mistake of trying to reclaim land that was originally Iraq's... yet when the Soviet Union invade Afghanistan the US oppose only to do it themselves 20 odd years later.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:07
i shudder to think either would happen. but, if america fell, and europe was not united neough to take up thier mantle, then what would happen to the world? with no superpowers to suppress them, all sorts of nations would be attacking others. also, what would happen before america fell? if any large amount of nations united agaist america, we would surely see our first nuclear war?
why would we see a nuclear war?
Josephland
24-08-2004, 20:07
Woo! US! More Americans choose Crest over the leading competitor!
To tell the truth, I've seen more non-Americans flame on these types of threads than Americans. I'd like to think that it's just a personal thing, that some people grew up more polite and disciplined than others.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:10
why would we see a nuclear war?

well, think about it. america holds a large amount of nuclear missiles. they have already shown us they are not afraid to use them, after hiroshima.
america would shurley do the same again, on a larger scale, if there threat to thier country was more real than ever?
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:11
Woo! US! More Americans choose Crest over the leading competitor!
To tell the truth, I've seen more non-Americans flame on these types of threads than Americans. I'd like to think that it's just a personal thing, that some people grew up more polite and disciplined than others.
i thought it would be the other way round, the question being as it was....quite disappointed
Nematodates
24-08-2004, 20:11
Originally Posted by Knightsoftheroundtable
What!! Since when did England build England, stupid, England was founded by the Roman Empire, ever heard of a city called Londinium? Now known as London? Besides we build 37 states, Romans built most of England cause its pretty small, and fatty foods, who cares if were fat, who frekin cares. Is it a problem, no it means we wont go hungry anytime soon, and last time I checked Europe had McDonalds too, its not bad for yu unless you eat it a lot.


First of all, you should care if you are fat. By being overweight and obese you are subjected to all types of illnesses and diseases, which drains money from healthcare. Just because you are big or fat does not mean you are healthy or are living the high life. It is an epidemic in the United States as well as Canada. Anyone can get fat eating fewer foods that are unhealthy. So your point about "not going hungry because we are fat" is very uneducated. And yes it is bad for you everyone knows this, unless you know you are close minded. It is cheaper to buy a bag of chips than to buy a couple of pieces of say fruit. It is cheaper to go out and pick up your supper from a MacDonald's window than to actually cook a BALANCED meal. But nowadays North America is all about convience. It is easier to buy food made than to actually g*d forbid you get off your butt and make something. It is cheaper and easier to hand your kid a bag of chips that will fill them up for hours as a result of its oils and fats. Check out some nutritional facts about MacDonalds by the way. If you were to have for supper a Big Mac, Fries and Milkshake right there you have eaten the amount of calories you are supposed to eat in a day. And lets face it you are not only going to eat once a day. BEING OVERWEIGHT AND UNHEALTHY DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE LIVING BETTER OR SMARTER.
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Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:12
well, think about it. america holds a large amount of nuclear missiles. they have already shown us they are not afraid to use them, after hiroshima.
america would shurley do the same again, on a larger scale, if there threat to thier country was more real than ever?
mmmmm, someone like bush yes, hopefully someone with a few brain cells will be in office when the time comes...
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:14
Originally Posted by Knightsoftheroundtable
What!! Since when did England build England, stupid, England was founded by the Roman Empire, ever heard of a city called Londinium? Now known as London? Besides we build 37 states, Romans built most of England cause its pretty small, and fatty foods, who cares if were fat, who frekin cares. Is it a problem, no it means we wont go hungry anytime soon, and last time I checked Europe had McDonalds too, its not bad for yu unless you eat it a lot.


First of all, you should care if you are fat. By being overweight and obese you are subjected to all types of illnesses and diseases, which drains money from healthcare. Just because you are big or fat does not mean you are healthy or are living the high life. It is an epidemic in the United States as well as Canada. Anyone can get fat eating fewer foods that are unhealthy. So your point about "not going hungry because we are fat" is very uneducated. And yes it is bad for you everyone knows this, unless you know you are close minded. It is cheaper to buy a bag of chips than to buy a couple of pieces of say fruit. It is cheaper to go out and pick up your supper from a MacDonald's window than to actually cook a BALANCED meal. But nowadays North America is all about convience. It is easier to buy food made than to actually g*d forbid you get off your butt and make something. It is cheaper and easier to hand your kid a bag of chips that will fill them up for hours as a result of its oils and fats. Check out some nutritional facts about MacDonalds by the way. If you were to have for supper a Big Mac, Fries and Milkshake right there you have eaten the amount of calories you are supposed to eat in a day. And lets face it you are not only going to eat once a day. BEING OVERWEIGHT AND UNHEALTHY DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE LIVING BETTER OR SMARTER.
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there is no excuse for being fat unless you have a medical condition :)
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:14
mmmmm, someone like bush yes, hopefully someone with a few brain cells will be in office when the time comes...

here's hoping. it wasnt bush at the head of hiroshima, but it must have been someone similar. well i hope it was, or i might just be right. and for once, i dont wanna be right....
Dream country
24-08-2004, 20:15
Denmark beats usa..

Usa has high murder rate, Denmark doesnt.
Denmark has free health care, Usa dont.
Denmark has freedoms galore, like gay rights and abortion without fear...
the Danish government isnt influenced in very mouch bye the private sector..
we have a rich culture...
we dont have nuclear power plants or nuclear warheads(we could if we had decided so)..
we have free education.. the government even pays you to go to college and university... and provides lones if need be..

etc. etc.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:17
looks like we've reverted to the original question. not quite so frank as we used to be, but we're getting there. everyone always glosses over the good side of america, in order to get in all of the bad side. please, think before you type
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 20:18
well, think about it. america holds a large amount of nuclear missiles. they have already shown us they are not afraid to use them, after hiroshima.
america would shurley do the same again, on a larger scale, if there threat to thier country was more real than ever?

Most people dont know why we bombed Hiroshima, Ill tell you, Japan was doing well and we wanted a surrender from them but they wanted money or they wouldnt stop if they won they would take all land from the rockies west, think of it, we did what we had to and we will hopefully and probably never do it again.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:20
actually, i think the best country in the world is probably switzerland. they're about 5 times less agressive than any other country can claim to be, and you never hear anything bad about them ore their politics on the news. pretty perfect, id say, norway and sweden come close as well. i certainly wont promote my own country, scotland, as it looks like a rubbish tip thanks to neds
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 20:20
Denmark beats usa..

Usa has high murder rate, Denmark doesnt.
Denmark has free health care, Usa dont.
Denmark has freedoms galore, like gay rights and abortion without fear...
the Danish government isnt influenced in very mouch bye the private sector..
we have a rich culture...
we dont have nuclear power plants or nuclear warheads(we could if we had decided so)..
we have free education.. the government even pays you to go to college and university... and provides lones if need be..

etc. etc.

Yeah keep in mind that Denmark has a small population making it easy to get free healthcare and free collage and much easier to have a small murder rate, think about it if you have a room with 1000 people and a room with 100 people which room would have the most murders, DUH! And its very expensive to give 300 million people free healthcare and free collage. Not so hard to give a few million or thousand or however many
Sockington
24-08-2004, 20:21
America is the best country on the face of the Earth, lets debate why or why not you agree.

I had no idea my thread would cause such a debate, getting a bit off track though, anyway, this isnt meant to be anti anything, or at least it wasnt its simply an opiniated debate about which country you think is the best and you can argue about it, enough anti-American stuff, enough anti-Britain stuff enough anti everything. Of course you can say reasons why not, but dont do this, dont critisize the hell out of ones personal favorite countrys.

You had to have realised that talking about America being the best country would start something big...I mean, in this day and age, when America seems to be pissing off most of the countries around the world, and their leader seems not to know what he's doing at any given time you've got to figure that people would be overly opinionated about America
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:21
i like americans, just that a leader of a demoratic nation should reflect the population, he makes you all look like prats..
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:23
Most people dont know why we bombed Hiroshima, Ill tell you, Japan was doing well and we wanted a surrender from them but they wanted money or they wouldnt stop if they won they would take all land from the rockies west, think of it, we did what we had to and we will hopefully and probably never do it again.

it did put a quick end to the war, yes, but at the cost of a huge number of innocents. looking back on it, i only wish there had been a more peacful way.... but once war starts, you arnt going to get very without killing
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:25
Hell no. America is slowly resembling a slushee ball and FACE IT it's NOT the only free country anymore! Japan has been free since like... a while, I think since the end of the 18 or 19 century, South Korea is a democrocy... well, yeah, so get your facts straight. NORTH KOREA is the non-democratic-run country... geez. America is full of narrow minded people just as it is full of smart people. America will NOT always be the country with the most power, not everyone looks at our flag and goes 'GOD BLESS!' not everyone believes in GOD. Bush was one of the worst presidents this damned place ever had and Kerry is just as bad. I mean, the banning of Gay people? Most Gay people are nice. I mean, I'm not gay or anything, but still... anyways, America is probably one of my least favorite countries even if I live in it. Plus 4-Kids is giving America the worst image ever... making it seem like it's ILLEGAL to be FOREIGN. You dumb arze.
Superpower07
24-08-2004, 20:25
America is the best country on the face of the Earth, lets debate why or why not you agree.

I should warn you . . . an attitude like that here will get you labled 'N00B!!!', even by some Americans faster than I can type this post.
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:26
but why bomb two highly populated cities, the effect could have been shown elsewhere
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:28
Kerry is just as bad. I mean, the banning of Gay people? Most Gay people are nice. I mean, I'm not gay or anything, but still... .

are you sure about that? im not gay, but if being gay is going to be banned, seing as kerry is the top runner to win, then we're going down the spiral quicker than i thought. one of my mum's best friends is gay, and he seems pretty nice to me.
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 20:30
I'm all for it. It means there will be a superpower to pick up the pieces when the US shatters

Ok how will we shatter Im curious, according to you guys its either

A) because of fast food. Oooh, thats a sure country shatterer

B) WE have an idiotic President. At the most well have him for 4 years unless he is defeated or chokes on another pretzel

C) We have high murder rates. Dont worry Mexicans alone over cover the amount of new citizens we need

D) We dont have free health care. Well not to worry, we have a lot of money to spend on healthcare, and for our poorer citizens great welfare.

OMG Your right! These will simply make our foundations crumble! THE END IS NEAR! Why didnt I listen to you earlier!?!?! Help us god we all aparently look to you for our every need!
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:30
la, I wasn't talking about Kerry spesifically. I was talking about Bush or whatever. I don't pay attention to elections I'm to busy debating my awesomely meant to be foreign anime... gr... hurl insta death muffins at 4-BAKA!!! GRRR!!! Bleh....
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:31
kerry's not a bible basher as well is he?....surely a leader of a nation should take everyone's perspective into account?
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:31
AAAAAAH! I MADE A TYPO A KITTEN IS GOING TO DROP DEAD HELP MEEE!!! Poor kitten... *sniffle*
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:32
AAAAAAH! I MADE A TYPO A KITTEN IS GOING TO DROP DEAD HELP MEEE!!! Poor kitten... *sniffle*
lol
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:33
AAAAAAH! I MADE A TYPO A KITTEN IS GOING TO DROP DEAD HELP MEEE!!! Poor kitten... *sniffle*

well, if making typos killls a kitten, then im a mass-murderer
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 20:34
Hell no. America is slowly resembling a slushee ball and FACE IT it's NOT the only free country anymore! Japan has been free since like... a while, I think since the end of the 18 or 19 century, South Korea is a democrocy... well, yeah, so get your facts straight. NORTH KOREA is the non-democratic-run country... geez. America is full of narrow minded people just as it is full of smart people. America will NOT always be the country with the most power, not everyone looks at our flag and goes 'GOD BLESS!' not everyone believes in GOD. Bush was one of the worst presidents this damned place ever had and Kerry is just as bad. I mean, the banning of Gay people? Most Gay people are nice. I mean, I'm not gay or anything, but still... anyways, America is probably one of my least favorite countries even if I live in it. Plus 4-Kids is giving America the worst image ever... making it seem like it's ILLEGAL to be FOREIGN. You dumb arze.

Think before you talk, where would you rather live, Iraq? China? maybe Zimbabwe? YOU ARE A SPOILED BRAT IN THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOVE TO COME HERE, YET YOU WHINE ABOUT LIVING IN A GREAT COUNTRY! WHY DO YOU THINK THE US HAS SO MANY IMMIGRANTS?!?!
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:35
La... I like NEVER MAKE TYPOS! Waah! Ooh, forgive me for using a smilie but yeah, this describes how I feel about killing that kitten- :headbang: Ta da. I stick to my thought that America is turning into a red-white-and-blue slushee ball.
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 20:37
La... I like NEVER MAKE TYPOS! Waah! Ooh, forgive me for using a smilie but yeah, this describes how I feel about killing that kitten- :headbang: Ta da. I stick to my thought that America is turning into a red-white-and-blue slushee ball.

Your very annoying, and going back to page 3 or whatever, slaves didnt found this country at all, they didnt build any states, they just picked cotton for the southerners.
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 20:39
RALPH NADAR FOR PRESIDENT '04! And thats something we can all agree on right! Things were much better before than dumbass kitten came in.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:39
Think before you talk, where would you rather live, Iraq? China? maybe Zimbabwe? YOU ARE A SPOILED BRAT IN THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOVE TO COME HERE, YET YOU WHINE ABOUT LIVING IN A GREAT COUNTRY! WHY DO YOU THINK THE US HAS SO MANY IMMIGRANTS?!?!

because they think its better. they dont know much. come to america, we'll protect you, give you a job.... they'll go anywhere were they can make a living. there are other places to live, i dont think she is spoilt at all
Wyrmia
24-08-2004, 20:39
There is no best country. Every country has good points and bad ones.

I don't like USA much, but it's every person's choice what country to like.
I'll state what I do not like:
1. Education system is in a huge down. Down down down. Teachers and professors are not pushing students, not enough.

2. Patriotism. It gets annoying after the first few months living here.

3. Media. Seems that people that work in most TV shows and movies know nothing. Just...NOTHING. Only their brand name. 70% of time that one watches television, you will see... can't find a word for it that will not be offensive. But there are some nice films, from smarter people.

4. Bueraucracy. It's like fast sand or catch-22, they'll ask you for papers until they get to those that you cannot get.

5. ****-ism and **** abuse(**** - any word). That also ties to the judicial system. People are just waiting for you to slip some bad words or do something 'bad' to get you sued.

6. Judicial system and government overall. Even more corrupted than USSR's. People are just trying to make their fat pockets look legal, and do most stupid things for that.

7. Culture. I'd like it if it was present. Hip-hop, rap, hardcore...whatever... It's not culture. It's idiocy playing on your animal instincts. Moder art? I saw some guy put some wires together and telling me that it was a great sculpture. Sorry, but the modern art is not culture, it's just someone paying his friend a load of money, and trying to hide that transaction behind something.

What I do like:
1. Living standards, if you're not too dumb, you can live in a nice community and have a good house, with a car.

2. Accessibility of information, it's nice being able to find out about nearly anything I want from libraries and internet.

3. Technology. It's always fun to see some new gadgets appear here and there. I know it's far from Japan, but I like it.

4. Diversity. This connects to accessibility of information, USA has a huge load of immigrants from various countries. I like exploring their cultures and being able to get it from the people who actually been there.

5. Environment. Being a young country that it is, USA still has a lot of forests and deserts and rivers that are almost they way they were a few hundred years ago. Not many countries can offer beautiful islands, along with huge snowy mountains, almost tropical rainforests and dry deserts.

6. Healthcare. It's not bad enough for me to hate it, but it's not at the top either. Even though doctors would drain money from you until you have nothing to give them, but at least you can get treatment on most problems.

This is my opinion and I will not prove it to anyone. Don't bother arguing.

And if anyone bothers to correct my spelling - thanks - you won't get me pissed off. I rarely check my spelling anyways.
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:42
I know I'm annoying being annoying is pretty much my gift. La. I never said anything about slaves... or did I? La. If my opinion makes me bratty... well yeah. And no, I didn't think. But I have some issues when it comes to this... gr... *shake*
Knightsoftheroundtable
24-08-2004, 20:42
Just keep in mind that the US has one of biggest populations in the world! The only one bigger is China, and they aer very corrupt, so we are the champions my friends myfriends and well keep on fighting till the end! Sorry that songs playing right now and its one of my favorites.
Firekitten
24-08-2004, 20:44
Every country has their pros and cons...I live in America...but I wouldn't say that my country is the best on the earth.

The way I see it...America is just going through a phase with the world-domination crap. America is only...what a few hundred years old...even less? She's a very young country when compared to the rest of the world.

Other countries went through similar phases also...Spain...England...but they moved past their's as they aged. We humans are so shortlived that we are unable to fully appreciate long term cycles of a country's social progression.

I've been to England and Sweden...and thought that they were awesome places to visit...and I wouldn't mind living in either of them. :)

p.s. I apologize for all of the ignorant americans posting on this topic...hehe
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 20:45
Ok how will we shatter Im curious, according to you guys its either

A) because of fast food. Oooh, thats a sure country shatterer

B) WE have an idiotic President. At the most well have him for 4 years unless he is defeated or chokes on another pretzel

C) We have high murder rates. Dont worry Mexicans alone over cover the amount of new citizens we need

D) We dont have free health care. Well not to worry, we have a lot of money to spend on healthcare, and for our poorer citizens great welfare.

OMG Your right! These will simply make our foundations crumble! THE END IS NEAR! Why didnt I listen to you earlier!?!?! Help us god we all aparently look to you for our every need!

Lol!!! Yeah that basically sums up how these people think our great nation will come crashing down.

This is the biggest thread I have ever seen! Ive never seen anything as big as this thread.
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:46
Alright, my brain just started to work again. Now I can rethink what I should say. Hm. Now that my brain is working it's telling me to stop saying 'la' all the time, la. But I won't listen to it. Anyways, the U.S, now that my brain is working it seems, is just like any other non-dictator-etc.-etc. run country. Has it's ups and downs... like one UP is the election thing, one DOWN is the fact that Gays are almost gonna be banned if we don't find some smarter/better/more persuading ways of getting it into certain peoples heads. Ah, and... um... lets say Japan. It has an up of not being able to carry around guns, but it's down is that you don't have to go to highschool. That can be a good or bad thing, now that I think about it...
Bad Republicans
24-08-2004, 20:47
Every country has their pros and cons...I live in America...but I wouldn't say that my country is the best on the earth.

The way I see it...America is just going through a phase with the world-domination crap. America is only...what a few hundred years old...even less? She's a very young country when compared to the rest of the world.

Other countries went through similar phases also...Spain...England...but they moved past their's as they aged. We humans are so shortlived that we are unable to fully appreciate long term cycles of a country's social progression.

I've been to England and Sweden...and thought that they were awesome places to visit...and I wouldn't mind living in either of them. :)

p.s. I apologize for all of the ignorant americans posting on this topic...hehe

Dont call me ignorant! Im standing up for my country
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 20:47
Every country has their pros and cons...I live in America...but I wouldn't say that my country is the best on the earth.

The way I see it...America is just going through a phase with the world-domination crap. America is only...what a few hundred years old...even less? She's a very young country when compared to the rest of the world.

Other countries went through similar phases also...Spain...England...but they moved past their's as they aged. We humans are so shortlived that we are unable to fully appreciate long term cycles of a country's social progression.

I've been to England and Sweden...and thought that they were awesome places to visit...and I wouldn't mind living in either of them. :)

p.s. I apologize for all of the ignorant americans posting on this topic...hehe

Germany, Italy, Ireland, Austria, Hungary, the Yugoslav States, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine, Greece, are all younger than the United States.
HadesRulesMuch
24-08-2004, 20:47
Yeah right. And don't forget blues. Thousands of SLAVES started that one.
All poor innocent slaves, drag to america. It was they who built your land, so don't come and say we owe you anything, cause YOU owe others.

Right. Because right now they could be living in Africa, if we had just left them alone. Then, they could die of AIDS, or one of the constant civil wars. Good idea. I'd say that even though slavery was wrong, the descendants of those slaves have it pretty damn good. And I never see anyone making them sit in the back of the bus anymore, so I guess we can start letting go of the whole slavery issue, that ended in 1864.
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:47
Every country has their pros and cons...I live in America...but I wouldn't say that my country is the best on the earth.

The way I see it...America is just going through a phase with the world-domination crap. America is only...what a few hundred years old...even less? She's a very young country when compared to the rest of the world.

Other countries went through similar phases also...Spain...England...but they moved past their's as they aged. We humans are so shortlived that we are unable to fully appreciate long term cycles of a country's social progression.

I've been to England and Sweden...and thought that they were awesome places to visit...and I wouldn't mind living in either of them. :)

p.s. I apologize for all of the ignorant americans posting on this topic...hehe

too true. spain, italy and england have all had a bash at world domination, but luckily, they failed.
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:48
Just keep in mind that the US has one of biggest populations in the world! The only one bigger is China, and they aer very corrupt, so we are the champions my friends myfriends and well keep on fighting till the end! Sorry that songs playing right now and its one of my favorites.
La, Japan has a bigger population than us, la. Not to offend you, but just felt the urge to point that out, la.
Kroblexskij
24-08-2004, 20:50
or not. I'm a proud european.
I don't think any of us is the better, we all just keep showing what we got. Look at this, a brand new weapon! It can kill millions of innocent chidlren, isn't that amazing!!??! The next day, the ameicans come up with something even worse and it goes on. STOP IT THERE, okey?

We don't need another cold war, what we need is peace! And do we get peace with two superpowers competing against eachother? No, we don't.

MORE POWER TO THE UN!!

//btw, i'm from sweden. Anymore swedes who thinking the same? congrats, your normal..
DA COMRADE
i'm from england and america never listens to the un , the un should have commanding power of all wars and situations

any brits or anti americans continue your fight for a safer non american world



and yankees look at your ammendment your breaking numbers 1, 3, 15 and many many more
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 20:50
La, Japan has a bigger population than us, la. Not to offend you, but just felt the urge to point that out, la.

Japan has a population of 127,333,002. The US has 293,027,571. Almost 1/3 of the US' population. And wtf is "la"?
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:50
And as some wouldn't mind living in England or Swedan, I wouldn't mind living in Japan or Australia, la. I hope I didn't make a typo or else I would've killed another kitten. LA!
Firekitten
24-08-2004, 20:51
Germany, Italy, Austria, Hungary, the Yugoslav States, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine, Greece, are all younger than the United States.

in terms of official name recognition...yes you are right...

in terms of population and history....wrong...many of those regions had political climates before the united states aka new world...was discovered...this of course isn't true for ALL of those mentioned...
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:51
too true. spain, italy and england have all had a bash at world domination, but luckily, they failed.
as the us will too
Firekitten
24-08-2004, 20:52
/agree
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:53
*giggle* La is just something I like to say ever since I got hooked on InuYasha, la. Hm... In one of the section-i-forgot-what-they're-called of Japan the population is around 20-40 million... and all of America's population is what? Hm. I need to brush up on my books, don't I, la?
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 20:53
in terms of official name recognition...yes you are right...

in terms of population and history....wrong...many of those regions had political climates before the united states aka new world...was discovered...this of course isn't true for ALL of those mentioned...

Do you consider the Roman Empire or the Holy Roman Empire political climates? Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia were part of Russia, and also part of Poland. Poland was divided up between Russia and Prussia, and did not start to rebel until the mid-1800s, and did not gain independence until 1917 when Germany granted Poland independence.
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 20:54
*giggle* La is just something I like to say ever since I got hooked on InuYasha, la. Hm... In one of the section-i-forgot-what-they're-called of Japan the population is around 20-40 million... and all of America's population is what? Hm. I need to brush up on my books, don't I, la?

Seriously, stop saying la. It doesn't mean anything, it is a waste of bandwidth and space, and is annoying as hell. Or, use Ja or Da.
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:54
*boredly switches on My Will* Politics just... la.... la... la... la...
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:56
*giggle* La is just something I like to say ever since I got hooked on InuYasha, la. Hm... In one of the section-i-forgot-what-they're-called of Japan the population is around 20-40 million... and all of America's population is what? Hm. I need to brush up on my books, don't I, la?

lol. i dont watch animes, they do stuff to your brain. especially that "colorful".... upskirt footage of a king-king style colledge girl does long-term damage to your brain
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:56
La! I am going to continue saying LA! So live with it, la! Um... la... let me find something to say here... urm... la... bad habits die hard or something like that, la...
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 20:57
Seriously, stop saying la. It doesn't mean anything, it is a waste of bandwidth and space, and is annoying as hell. Or, use Ja or Da.

ooo... a waste of bandwith and space... oooo... TWO letters every time its used! shock, horror
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:57
La, I am against the anime because it is dubbed, cut, and changed. I prefer the manga even if it is flipped, dang VIZ, la... *sigh* The voice pitches are all screwed up in the InuYasha dub, la. Not at all like intended. What's wrong with dubbers anyway, la?
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 20:57
La ist nicht ein Wort!
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 20:58
anyway, what exactly makes the us better than any other country....specifically?
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 20:58
ooo... a waste of bandwith and space... oooo... TWO letters every time its used! shock, horror
La! Thanks! La la la...
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 21:00
La, I am against the anime because it is dubbed, cut, and changed. I prefer the manga even if it is flipped, dang VIZ, la... *sigh* The voice pitches are all screwed up in the InuYasha dub, la. Not at all like intended. What's wrong with dubbers anyway, la?
you some sort of madwoman?
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 21:00
anyway, what exactly makes the us better than any other country....specifically?
That's exactly what I'd like to know, la. *sigh* What makes any country better than any country, now that I think about it, la?
Glasgae
24-08-2004, 21:00
i have to log off for about half an hour or so, and i might not be back on. in that case, thanks for a great thread
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 21:01
you some sort of madwoman?
And why am I a mad woman? For fighting for the right for anime to be what it IS and what it's meant to BE? La?!?!
Enodscopia
24-08-2004, 21:02
or not. I'm a proud european.
I don't think any of us is the better, we all just keep showing what we got. Look at this, a brand new weapon! It can kill millions of innocent chidlren, isn't that amazing!!??! The next day, the ameicans come up with something even worse and it goes on. STOP IT THERE, okey?

We don't need another cold war, what we need is peace! And do we get peace with two superpowers competing against eachother? No, we don't.

MORE POWER TO THE UN!!

//btw, i'm from sweden. Anymore swedes who thinking the same? congrats, your normal..

I like our weapons they keep our children safe which is much more important than other countrys children.
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 21:03
*sigh* La. I suppose certain people fear what certain people do not understand, and certain people suppose this certain person is mad because certain people do not understand, la. Well... la is better than typing hakklfdsa' every time I end my sentence or something, la!
Dacowookies
24-08-2004, 21:03
And why am I a mad woman? For fighting for the right for anime to be what it IS and what it's meant to BE? La?!?!
sorry, meant no offence....just the way you talk....sound very young
Mew Mew Sweetie
24-08-2004, 21:05
I'm not talking, la, I'm typing. La. And, la, I'm probably younger than you and everyone else in this forum, la. But I refuse and am not allowed to reveal my age, la *sigh*
Attican Empire
24-08-2004, 21:05
So, how are you doing, heil? Heil? I am going to use heil like you use la, heil. Heil.
New Obbhlia
24-08-2004, 21:06
Hey if it wasnt for slavery they would be starving in Africa, and dont forget, we were still a very new country then I know some black people who admit that slavery did bring them here and so it wasnt all bad, England had slaves when they were about, oh say, 1000 years old! we were about 90 years old, oh but of course you knew that right? Right? Of course you educated Europeans knew that, of course, so your point was.....

As European (Swede), antinationalist and (as most civilised people) antislavery I get sad while I am reading this. Sure You might have got quite a lot of criticism for this post but I still want to add mine.

My country was the first to entirely forbid slavery (1252 I think), still in the 18-hundreds Your country had not.

People are still starving in Africa despite us Europeans/ Arabs/ Americans killing them of since the beginning of the former millenia through slavery. How could those people's suffering justficate the fact that their children live (as well as You white American's) on 2 fifts of the global resources?

You may debate the last thing that You said, the only thing I say is that our system of school is based on "school for all" instead of the "school for money" principle (You might illustrate that point by me debating with you right now, I am 14 1/2 years old and haven't been to anything but stateschool, want me to speak french as well?

Best Regards New Obbhlia