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Watch the video, "Truth Behind the Gates of Auschwitz", it's a real eye opener, see what the gas chambers were really for. (Delousing the clothing and mattresses in attempts to keep typhus outbreaks down) There were no vents in the ceiling in the allied air recon photos. But sure enough, shortly after the soviets took the camps, the vents show up!

It's wrong to put people in internment camps, but there was no plan to wipe them out. We're talking about Germany here, not some tribal county in Central Africa.
i wonder how many homosexuals and gypsies and cripples happened to die to typhus...

...May I remind you, sir, that drugs are bad? Just say no.
Your point?

You all are a bunch of idiots. This is the stupidest argument i've ever heard. It's an insult to jews to say that the holocaust never happened. Of course it happened. Say it didn't happen to the holocaust survivors, or friends of those who died, and see what they think, you inconsiderate bastards. When people deny that something of this level happened, then that only increases the chances of it happening in the future.

Your point?

You've said that before. Now you're getting stupid AND boring. I'm out. Have fun getting shot when someone decides you and your corrupt beleifs are putting the children at risk!

Dissolution of Eastern European Jewry [Published in English]
by Walter N. Sanning


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0939484110/qid=1092680270/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-6364866-2955236?v=glance&s=books&n=507846




Cheaper to buy here:

http://www.noontidepress.com/catalog/0389.html


A masterly, unprecedented and so far unique demographic study of European Jewry 1931-1945, The Dissolution gives the most probable accounting of the actual fate of millions of Jews airily consigned to nonexistent "gas chambers" by the Holohoaxers. Sanning analyzes the (often fragmentary) census data and the extraordinary population displacements which occurred before, during, and after World War II, which involved great migrations of (very much alive) Jewish refugees into the Soviet Union, North and South America and Palestine. Discover why establishment academics such as Professor Henry Huttenbach of CCNY ("... clever veneer of scholarship ...) and Prof. John Conway of the University of British Columbia ("... a piece of sophisticated Holocaust denial ...") have offered grudging praise -- but no refutation -- of this key revisionist study. Foreword by Arthur Butz. ISBN 0-939484-11-0

Pb; 239 pp; Graphs, charts, biblio, index; $6.25.

*EXTREME SARCASM* Yes, the holocaust was exaggurated - and maybe being tall, blonde, and of Aryan descent means you're of this "divine race"*/Extreme Sarcasm*

STUPID NEONAZIS!!! YOU DESERVE TO BE PUT THROUGH YOUR OWN CONCENTRATION CAMPS!!!


(you may wonder why I hate NeoNazis so much more than other racists - well it was because about 5 years back I had a nasty encounter w/some kid (who at the time was my friend) who turned out to be a NeoNazi)

Whites are the only true "human", we evolved from Homo erectus and Homo habilis into Homo sapiens. Making us "Humans"

The other races are a descended from the Australopithecine.


For this you really do need to provide a source.

Don't fall for the World War Hoax!

You've said that before. Now you're getting stupid AND boring. I'm out. Have fun getting shot when someone decides you and your corrupt beleifs are putting the children at risk!
Your posts lack sense and direction...
I have no other response other than to request some clarification.

What about the 'Final Solution' then? Isn't there records and evidence that proves it was agreed upon? How come the Germans called them 'Death camps' if they weren't used for mass genocide? What about all the Jew survivors testifying to the piles of bodies and biological recycling? What about MAUZ?? For someone that probably never saw the camps when they were liberated, you seem pretty confident in saying that the Jewish survivors who told about the horror of the camps were wrong. Perhaps you should share your view with the Isreali's and see what happens?

I believe it happened. I met a woman who survived it and saw her tattoo. I think that's pretty decent proof.

Did the "Holocaust" actually occur, and just as they said it did.


Who are 'they'?

For this you really do need to provide a source.



"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes ... will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest Allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as the baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla."

Charles Darwin The Descent of Man, 1871, p.201




Also Arthur De Gobineau and his book "The Inequality of Human Races" (It's really a collection of his essays) is a great source, he combines data from many of the leading scientists of his day.

Dissolution of Eastern European Jewry [Published in English]
by Walter N. Sanning


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846




Cheaper to buy here:

http://www.noontidepress.com/catalog/0389.html


A masterly, unprecedented and so far unique demographic study of European Jewry 1931-1945, The Dissolution gives the most probable accounting of the actual fate of millions of Jews airily consigned to nonexistent "gas chambers" by the Holohoaxers. Sanning analyzes the (often fragmentary) census data and the extraordinary population displacements which occurred before, during, and after World War II, which involved great migrations of (very much alive) Jewish refugees into the Soviet Union, North and South America and Palestine. Discover why establishment academics such as Professor Henry Huttenbach of CCNY ("... clever veneer of scholarship ...) and Prof. John Conway of the University of British Columbia ("... a piece of sophisticated Holocaust denial ...") have offered grudging praise -- but no refutation -- of this key revisionist study. Foreword by Arthur Butz. ISBN 0-939484-11-0

Pb; 239 pp; Graphs, charts, biblio, index; $6.25.

Who are 'they'?


Jews and their masonic pawns.

Berkman! Berkman! Read the link in my signature.

I wrote a book too: "How to Shut the Fuck Up", but you might need "Shutting the Fuck Up For Dummies" as it's a little easier to follow.

Berkman! Berkman! Read the link in my signature.


What signature? What link? I see nothing.

Oh go to hell already you NeoNazi!

Dr. Fritz Klein, SS doctor, is examined by his council, Major Winwood (p. 184):

What happened to those people whom the doctors selected as unfit for work?

-- The doctor had to make a selection but had no influence on what was going to happen. I have heard, and I know, that part of them were sent to the gas chambers and the crematoria.

[...]

Was your work completed when you had divided the transports into fit for work and unfit?

-- Yes.

Did you ever go down to the gas chamber yourself?

-- Yes, once, when it was not working. I had no duties to perform there.

What was your personal opinion about this gas chamber business?

-- I did not approve, but I did not protest because it was no use at all.

[...]

Klein is cross-examined by the Prosecution, Colonel Backhouse (pp. 186-187):

Dr. Klein, you are an educated man and were educated at a non-German university. When you went to Auschwitz and found these transports of people being taken to the gas chambers and being killed, did you not realize that that was murder?

-- Yes.

Is it not true that those who were not fit for work were simply destroyed?

-- Yes.

I've stated facts repeatedly.

Yes, as I said, twisted and distorted to suit your needs, as in the congress percentage from earlier. Summing percentages, honestly. :P


No they don't. Their Free Will is narrowed by what the Jews want it to be and punishments are in order for those who don't follow their rule. PATRIOT ACT was the first step in silencing opposition to the Jewish establishment.
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I was talking about the populace's freedom to watch what movies and TV shows they want. Despite the restrictive nature of laws in the States under the right-wing crusading Republican Bush administration, there are still no laws that state that you can't choose not to watch a movie you dislike, or not frequent movies with actors you dislike.

Also, laws that restrict individuals from attacks, either verbal, printed, or physical, on other individuals or groups based entirely on race, creed, religion, sexual preference or taste in ice cream are there to promote freedom and peace, not a restriction on your personal right to oppress others, as you seem to think.

I'm a 5 year old who is in the top 1% of my class at Harvard. And my friends Jamal, Tyrone, and Leroy shot 56 people down the block from me. :rolleyes: Try some facts... Not your personal, likely untrue, stories.:rolleyes:

Well, see, if I did that, I'd be playing your game. If I dug up facts that proved that a greater percentage of the asian population than the caucasian population were employed, you'd babble about asians stealing jobs from "their rightful white owners". If you chose not to do this, you'd instead attack my sources. To that end, I'm off to do some research. As MacArthur said, "I shall return."

Oh, and since you seem fond of quotations:
"The government has no place in the bedrooms of the nation" - Pierre Elliot Trudeau.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." -- US Bill of Rights, First Amendment.

Omg Teh Masons And Illuminati And Jews R Out To Kill Our Pure White Brothas11!1!11!!

Personally, I believe that the Holocaust did happen, and I choose to take the six million number at face value.

For those of you who don't believe in the Holocaust, what about the Einsatzgruppen? For those of you not in the know, I'll quote a paragraph or two from Enemy at the Gates, The Battle for Stalingrad by Willian Craig:Divided into four Einsatzgruppen (special extermination squads) across Russia, they numbered approximately three thousand sadists, who had been recruited mostly fromthe rands of Himmler's police forces, the Shutzstaffeln, or SS (Elite Guard) and Sicherheitsdienst, or SD (Security Service). Others wandered in from punishment battalions and psychiatric hospitals. At a training center in Saxony they had been taught to use a rifle and machine pistol and told explicitly what to do with them in the Soviet Union. Dressed in black uniforms, they traveled by truck convoy, and terrified villagers soon referred to them as the "Black Crows."
Reichenau had helped the Einsatzgruppen as much as he could. Anxious to conserve ammunition, he even suggested each Jew be finished off with no more than two bullets. The mass killings affected the attitude of many Sixth Army soldiers who witnessed the Black Crows at work. Given fre eign by their commanders, they enthusiastically helped exterminate the Jewish population. At times, soldiers in bathing suits and other casual off-duty attire snapped photographs of executions and sent them home to families and friends. A picnic atmosphere prevailed around ditches filled with bodies.Thoughts/comments?

...
Charles Darwin The Descent of Man, 1871, p.201
...
Also Arthur De Gobineau and his book...

Charles Darwin: 1809-1882
Arthur De Gobineau: 1816–82

Earliest recovery of australopithecine: 1924

Exactly how were they intended to be taken as sources for the claim when neither of them mention it?

Charles Darwin is refering to gaps in the fossil record, as you will understand when you view the quote you made in context: I have no idea what you believe him to be talking about.

Perhaps our good friend TT can provide a better source?

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073670/replies?comment=147

Josef Kramer is questioned by his defense council, Major Winwood (pp. 157-158):

When you arrived at Auschwitz who was the Kommandant of the whole camp?

-- Obersturmbannführer Hoess. It was a very large camp and was subdivided into Camp Nos. 1, 2 and 3. I was Kommandant of Camp No. 2, Birkenau.

Will you explain to the Court how it is that, in the first statement you made, you said the allegations referring to gas chambers, mass executions, whipping and cruelty were untrue?

-- There are two reasons for that. The first is that in the first statement I was told that the prisoners alleged that these gas chambers were under my command, and the second and main reason was that Pohl, who spoke to me, took my word of honour that I should remain silent and should not tell anybody at all about the existence of the gas chambers. When I made my first statement I felt still bound by this word of honour which I had given. When I made the second statement in prison, in Celle, these persons to whom I felt bound in honour -- Adolf Hitler and Reichsführer Himmler -- were no loner alive and I thought then that I was no longer bound.

Did Kommandant Hoess say anything to you about the gas chambers?

-- I received a written order from him that I had nothing to do with either the gas chambers or the incoming transports. The Political Department which was in every camp had a card index system of prisoners and was responsible for personal documents and for any sort of transports or incoming prisoners. At Auschwitz the Political Department was also responsible for all the selections from incoming transports for the gas chamber. In the crematorium the S.S. and prisoners -- Sonderkommando -- were under the command of the Kommandant of Auschwitz, Hoess. As the place where the transports generally arrived was in the middle of my own camp I was sometimes present at their arrival. The people who took part in supervising and who were responsible for the security were partly from Auschwitz No. 1, and partly from my own camp at Birkenau, but the selection of these people who had to supervise was done by the Kommandant of Auschwitz No. 1. The actual selections of the internees were made only by doctors. Those who were selected for the gas chambers went to the different crematoria, those who were found to be fit for work came into two different parts of my camp, because the idea was that in a few days they were to be re-transferred to different parts of German for work.

[...]

What did you think of the whole gas chamber business?

-- I asked myself, "Is it really right about these persons who go to the gas chambers, and whether that person who signed for the first time these orders will be able to answer for it?" I did not know what the purpose of the gas chamber was.

Now on to his cross-examination by Major Backhouse (p. 174):

I suggest to you that you went on lying about the gas chamber until you were shown a photograph which had been taken of one at Natzweiler, and that was the first time you admitted the existence of such a thing?

-- It was not so, because between the two statements I was not asked any more.

[...]

What was the purpose of the Natzweiler camp?

--To let prisoners work in a quarry near by?

Were the prisoners not regularly supplied from that camp to Strasbourg for experiments?

--No.

Was there no gas chamber there before you arrived?

-- No.

Was it constructed under your instructions and did you quite deliberately gas 80 prisoners in that gas chamber?

--Yes, on the orders of Reichsführer Himmler.

[...]

Did you force these people into the gas chamber yourself?

-- Yes.

Did you actually put the gas in yourself and watch them inside as they died through a peephole you had made?

-- No.

[...]

Did you not describe that the women continued to breathe for about half a minute?

-- One could hear that. It was not necessary to observe.

Were you not chosen as Kommandant of Birkenau because you had proved yourself willing to do this sort of thing?

-- No, I do not think so, because I got a special order that I had nothing to do with either crematoria or transports.

When Kommandant Pohl demanded your word of honour not to talk about the gas chambers, why was it that you could not tell anybody if it was all legally proper and above board?

-- I do not know. Nothing could be said about concentration camps in the outside world.

[...]

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I was talking about the populace's freedom to watch what movies and TV shows they want. Despite the restrictive nature of laws in the States under the right-wing crusading Republican Bush administration, there are still no laws that state that you can't choose not to watch a movie you dislike, or not frequent movies with actors you dislike.
It doesn't matter what they choose since they all come out of the same place and the same people. Jorge Boosh is a left-wing communist Zionist who happens to love mohammedans as peacemakers as well.

Also, laws that restrict individuals from attacks, either verbal, printed, or physical, on other individuals or groups based entirely on race, creed, religion, sexual preference or taste in ice cream are there to promote freedom and peace, not a restriction on your personal right to oppress others, as you seem to think.
Mind and body control by the Jews.

Oh, and since you seem fond of quotations:
"The government has no place in the bedrooms of the nation" - Pierre Elliot Trudeau.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." -- US Bill of Rights, First Amendment.
Relevance?

Jews and their masonic pawns.

Oh, here we go. The war was a conspiracy to make people hate the righteous, tyranny-hating Nazi's yes? The Jews were trying to dominate the world and Hitler refused to bow to the will of the 'High Mason'? I think you've read 'Mein Kampf' ONE TOO MANY TIMES, my friend.

Josef Kramer is questioned by his defense council, Major Winwood (pp. 157-158):

When you arrived at Auschwitz who was the Kommandant of the whole camp?

-- Obersturmbannführer Hoess. It was a very large camp and was subdivided into Camp Nos. 1, 2 and 3. I was Kommandant of Camp No. 2, Birkenau.

Will you explain to the Court how it is that, in the first statement you made, you said the allegations referring to gas chambers, mass executions, whipping and cruelty were untrue?

-- There are two reasons for that. The first is that in the first statement I was told that the prisoners alleged that these gas chambers were under my command, and the second and main reason was that Pohl, who spoke to me, took my word of honour that I should remain silent and should not tell anybody at all about the existence of the gas chambers. When I made my first statement I felt still bound by this word of honour which I had given. When I made the second statement in prison, in Celle, these persons to whom I felt bound in honour -- Adolf Hitler and Reichsführer Himmler -- were no loner alive and I thought then that I was no longer bound.

Did Kommandant Hoess say anything to you about the gas chambers?

-- I received a written order from him that I had nothing to do with either the gas chambers or the incoming transports. The Political Department which was in every camp had a card index system of prisoners and was responsible for personal documents and for any sort of transports or incoming prisoners. At Auschwitz the Political Department was also responsible for all the selections from incoming transports for the gas chamber. In the crematorium the S.S. and prisoners -- Sonderkommando -- were under the command of the Kommandant of Auschwitz, Hoess. As the place where the transports generally arrived was in the middle of my own camp I was sometimes present at their arrival. The people who took part in supervising and who were responsible for the security were partly from Auschwitz No. 1, and partly from my own camp at Birkenau, but the selection of these people who had to supervise was done by the Kommandant of Auschwitz No. 1. The actual selections of the internees were made only by doctors. Those who were selected for the gas chambers went to the different crematoria, those who were found to be fit for work came into two different parts of my camp, because the idea was that in a few days they were to be re-transferred to different parts of Germany for work.

[...]

What did you think of the whole gas chamber business?

-- I asked myself, "Is it really right about these persons who go to the gas chambers, and whether that person who signed for the first time these orders will be able to answer for it?" I did not know what the purpose of the gas chamber was.

Now on to his cross-examination by Major Backhouse (p. 174):

I suggest to you that you went on lying about the gas chamber until you were shown a photograph which had been taken of one at Natzweiler, and that was the first time you admitted the existence of such a thing?

-- It was not so, because between the two statements I was not asked any more.

[...]

What was the purpose of the Natzweiler camp?

--To let prisoners work in a quarry near by?

Were the prisoners not regularly supplied from that camp to Strasbourg for experiments?

--No.

Was there no gas chamber there before you arrived?

-- No.

Was it constructed under your instructions and did you quite deliberately gas 80 prisoners in that gas chamber?

--Yes, on the orders of Reichsführer Himmler.

[...]

Did you force these people into the gas chamber yourself?

-- Yes.

Did you actually put the gas in yourself and watch them inside as they died through a peephole you had made?

-- No.

[...]

Did you not describe that the women continued to breathe for about half a minute?

-- One could hear that. It was not necessary to observe.

Were you not chosen as Kommandant of Birkenau because you had proved yourself willing to do this sort of thing?

-- No, I do not think so, because I got a special order that I had nothing to do with either crematoria or transports.

When Kommandant Pohl demanded your word of honour not to talk about the gas chambers, why was it that you could not tell anybody if it was all legally proper and above board?

-- I do not know. Nothing could be said about concentration camps in the outside world.

[...]

Josef Kramer is questioned by his defense council, Major Winwood (pp. 157-158):

When you arrived at Auschwitz who was the Kommandant of the whole camp?

-- Obersturmbannführer Hoess. It was a very large camp and was subdivided into Camp Nos. 1, 2 and 3. I was Kommandant of Camp No. 2, Birkenau.

Will you explain to the Court how it is that, in the first statement you made, you said the allegations referring to gas chambers, mass executions, whipping and cruelty were untrue?

-- There are two reasons for that. The first is that in the first statement I was told that the prisoners alleged that these gas chambers were under my command, and the second and main reason was that Pohl, who spoke to me, took my word of honour that I should remain silent and should not tell anybody at all about the existence of the gas chambers. When I made my first statement I felt still bound by this word of honour which I had given. When I made the second statement in prison, in Celle, these persons to whom I felt bound in honour -- Adolf Hitler and Reichsführer Himmler -- were no loner alive and I thought then that I was no longer bound.

Did Kommandant Hoess say anything to you about the gas chambers?

-- I received a written order from him that I had nothing to do with either the gas chambers or the incoming transports. The Political Department which was in every camp had a card index system of prisoners and was responsible for personal documents and for any sort of transports or incoming prisoners. At Auschwitz the Political Department was also responsible for all the selections from incoming transports for the gas chamber. In the crematorium the S.S. and prisoners -- Sonderkommando -- were under the command of the Kommandant of Auschwitz, Hoess. As the place where the transports generally arrived was in the middle of my own camp I was sometimes present at their arrival. The people who took part in supervising and who were responsible for the security were partly from Auschwitz No. 1, and partly from my own camp at Birkenau, but the selection of these people who had to supervise was done by the Kommandant of Auschwitz No. 1. The actual selections of the internees were made only by doctors. Those who were selected for the gas chambers went to the different crematoria, those who were found to be fit for work came into two different parts of my camp, because the idea was that in a few days they were to be re-transferred to different parts of German for work.

[...]

What did you think of the whole gas chamber business?

-- I asked myself, "Is it really right about these persons who go to the gas chambers, and whether that person who signed for the first time these orders will be able to answer for it?" I did not know what the purpose of the gas chamber was.

Now on to his cross-examination by Major Backhouse (p. 174):

I suggest to you that you went on lying about the gas chamber until you were shown a photograph which had been taken of one at Natzweiler, and that was the first time you admitted the existence of such a thing?

-- It was not so, because between the two statements I was not asked any more.

[...]

What was the purpose of the Natzweiler camp?

--To let prisoners work in a quarry near by?

Were the prisoners not regularly supplied from that camp to Strasbourg for experiments?

--No.

Was there no gas chamber there before you arrived?

-- No.

Was it constructed under your instructions and did you quite deliberately gas 80 prisoners in that gas chamber?

--Yes, on the orders of Reichsführer Himmler.

[...]

Did you force these people into the gas chamber yourself?

-- Yes.

Did you actually put the gas in yourself and watch them inside as they died through a peephole you had made?

-- No.

[...]

Did you not describe that the women continued to breathe for about half a minute?

-- One could hear that. It was not necessary to observe.

Were you not chosen as Kommandant of Birkenau because you had proved yourself willing to do this sort of thing?

-- No, I do not think so, because I got a special order that I had nothing to do with either crematoria or transports.

When Kommandant Pohl demanded your word of honour not to talk about the gas chambers, why was it that you could not tell anybody if it was all legally proper and above board?

-- I do not know. Nothing could be said about concentration camps in the outside world.

[...]


So they beat the man and tortured him until he talked?

Give me twenty minutes with any of you people, I can get you to sign a paper stating you are Bin Laden with plastic surgery to look however you look.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0939484757/qid=1092681261/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-6364866-2955236?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

The Founding Myths of Modern Israel [Published in English]
by Roger Garaudy, Theodore J. Okeefe




http://www.truthinstitute.org/TEI_book_analysis_FMM.htm


The holocaust was a lie to gain world sympathy to get Israel created. Also it allows the jews to get away with massacres in Israel by shouting, "Holocaust!" "Anti-semite!" whenever anybody tries to say, "Hey, stop killing people. You're butchering the Palestinians!"

I have been to Poland. I saw the Majdanek concentration camp (which, 30 years after the event, still smelled of death). I talked to people who lived in the area, who smelled burning flesh every day. And don't tell me Communist propaganda. Yes, it was 1977 and the Communists were still in charge but the people I talked to were at the Catholic University of Lublin and had no hesitancy, once they knew no one was eavesdropping, about punching holes in official lies. It happened, and not only to Jews. The Polish people were also marked for enslavement and eventual extermination. To deny this is an insult to my Polish heritage.
In my view, this is the ultimate result of the denial of God and the exaltation of man as his own god by secular humanism. Without God and without moral absolutes, what is to prevent us from doing this to one another? Worth noting that the totalitarians of the 20th century have killed
more people in the name of their ideologies than all of history's religious wars and persecutions combined. (The Nazis hated Christianity and planned to destroy it once they finished off the Jews.) Not to justify the evils done in the name of religion, but when the Great Leader replaces the Supreme Being, and the Manifesto, Thoughts of the Chairman, whatever, becomes the Holy Book, it always ends up in a terror far worse than any inquisition.

Wow, first its the muslims, now its the jews, between all the groups of people I'm supposed to hate and fear it's amazing I have time to laugh at stupid people at all!

Well, see, if I did that, I'd be playing your game. If I dug up facts that proved that a greater percentage of the asian population than the caucasian population were employed, you'd babble about asians stealing jobs from "their rightful white owners". If you chose not to do this, you'd instead attack my sources. To that end, I'm off to do some research. As MacArthur said, "I shall return."

Excuses again for not "playing my game" of using facts to back up statements.

A lot of those questions are convoluted. They ask in a negative form, "Where there no," "Is it not true that," and the answers could concievably be taken either way.

Jorge Boosh is a left-wing communist Zionist who happens to love mohammedans as peacemakers as well.

HAHAHAhahahah.... whee.. wow. Thanks, I needed that.

Right, back to my work.

I think that I can safely say that Tenete Traditiones is simply jealous of the math skills of Jews. And probably also the enormous genitals of a black man.

What about camps liberated by the Western Allies? Did they put in fake vents, too?

Obviously. FDR and Chruchill wanted to get involved in the war, but their civilian populations did not. America needed a good excuse so they enforced an embargo on Japan and stoped many oil supplies from getting into Japan, which resulted in a massive decline in the Japanese economy and starved the Japanese population. In retaliation the Japs bombed the American embargo ships in Hawaii.

After the war and 450,000 American lives lost, warmongers FDR and Churchill needed another good excuse to justify WWII. That's partly why the 'holohoax' was invented.

and Prof. John Conway of the University of British Columbia ("... a piece of sophisticated Holocaust denial ...") have offered grudging praise


John Conway has also gone on record to say:
"This book is in fact no more than a perverse attempt to concoct a contrived analysis of the Jewish 'population changes' during the Second World War, which not only mendaciously exonerates the Nazis, but hypocritically seeks to create a distorted account of the Jewish experience which does without the Holocaust, without Hitler, without history at all."

In my view, this is the ultimate result of the denial of God and the exaltation of man as his own god by secular humanism. Without God and without moral absolutes, what is to prevent us from doing this to one another? Worth noting that the totalitarians of the 20th century have killed
more people in the name of their ideologies than all of history's religious wars and persecutions combined. (The Nazis hated Christianity and planned to destroy it once they finished off the Jews.) Not to justify the evils done in the name of religion, but when the Great Leader replaces the Supreme Being, and the Manifesto, Thoughts of the Chairman, whatever, becomes the Holy Book, it always ends up in a terror far worse than any inquisition.

I disagree. The Holocaust was an example of contempt for human life and emotion that is closely related to puritanism and such.

Much more at the link, worth reading. :D


http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/jewish_sacrifice.htm


The History of Jewish Human Sacrifice

By
Willie Martin



At the dawn of civilization, the blood rite, in which human blood is drunk from the body of a still-living victim, was known to many tribes. However, only one people, that has never progressed beyond the Stone Age, has continued to practice the blood rite and ritual murder. This people are know to the world as Jews. Arnold Toynbee, a noted scholar, has called the Jews "a fossil people."

In so doing, he must have been aware of the fact that they still practice ritual murder and the drinking of human blood (especially Christian blood). As a scholar, he could not have failed to note the many attested incidents of this practice of the Jews, for hundreds of example of ritual murder by the Jews are cited in official Catholic books, in every European literature, and in the court records of all the European nations.

It is the official historian of the Jews, (Josef Kastein, in his History of the Jews, who gives the underlying reason for this barbaric custom. On page 173, he says, "According to the primeval Jewish view, the blood was the seat of the soul."

Thus it was not the heart which was the seat of the soul, according to the stone-age Jews, but the blood itself. They believed that by drinking the blood of a Christian victim who was perfect in every way, they could overcome their physical short comings and become as powerful as the intelligent civilized beings among whom they had formed their parasitic communities. Because of this belief, the Jews are known to have practiced drinking blood since they made their first appearance in history.

Jewish Murder Plan Against White Christians Exposed

The Murderous People: The Jews are under a terrible suspicion the world over, and for good reason. Anyone who does not know this, does not understand the Jewish problem. Anyone who merely see the Jews as "a tribe which secures its existence with exchange and old trousers, and whose uniforms are the long noses," is being misled. But anyone who knows the monstrous accusation which has been raised against the jews since the beginning of time, will view these people in a different light. He will begin to see not only a peculiar, strangely fascinating nation; but criminals, murderers, and devils in human form. He will be filled with holy anger and hatred against these people of Satan. (John 8:44)

The suspicion under which the Jews are held is murder. They are charged with enticing White Christian Children (and sometimes blacks to keep them under control - and if necessary they will run black children down in the streets with automobiles to show the blacks their power, and that the blacks had better mind their manners or the same will happen again and again. We all witnessed this a few years ago in New York city when the car of Rabbi Shneerson ran over a black child. And as usual the Jews bought off the blacks who were inciting the mobs against them; if they had been unsuccessful in this they would have had the blacks who dared not be controlled murdered) and at time White Christian adults, butchering them, and draining their blood. They are charged with mixing this blood into their masses (unleaven bread) and using it to practice superstitious magic. They are charged with torturing their victims, especially the children; and during this torture they shout threats, curses, and cast spells against non-Jews. This systematic murder has a special name, it is called,

Ritual Murder

The knowledge of Jewish ritual murder is thousands of years old. It is as old as the Jews themselves. Non-Jews have passed the knowledge of it from generation to generation, and it has been passed down to us thorough writings. It is known of throughout the nation. Knowledge of ritual murder can be found in even the most secluded rural villages. The grand-father told his grand children, who passed it on to his children, and his children's children, until we have inherited the knowledge today from them.

It is also befalling other nations. The accusation is loudly raised immediately, anywhere in te world, where a body is found which bears the marks of ritual murder. This accusation is raised only against the Jews. Hundreds and hundreds of nations, tribes, and races live on this earth, but no one ever thought to accuse them of the planned murdering of children, or to call them murderers. All nations have hurled this accusation only against the Jews.

And many great men have raised such an accusation. Martin Luther wrote in his book "Of The Jews And Their Lies:"

"They stabbed and pierced the body of the young boy Simon of Trent. They have also murdered other children...The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful people as they who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to and think they must murder and crush the heathen. Jesus Christ, the Almighty Preacher from Nazareth, spoke to the Jews: ? Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning..."


"He (Martin Luther) accused them (the Jews) of all those fictitious crimes which had made Europe such a hell for them. He, too, claimed that they poisoned the wells used by Christians, assassinated their Christian patients, and murdered Christian children to procure blood for the Passover. He called on the princes and rulers to persecute them mercilessly, and commanded the preachers to set the mobs on them. He declared that if the power were his, he would take all the leaders of the Jews and tear their tongues out by the roots." (Stranger than Fiction, p. 249)

The Struggle of Der Sturmer: The only newspaper in Germany, yes, in the entire world, which often screamed the accusation of ritual murder into the Jewish face, was Der Sturmer. For more than ten yeas Der Sturmer led a gigantic battle against Judaism. Which caused Der Sturmer to be under constant attack by the Jews. Dozens of times it has been confiscated and prohibited.

Its workers, most of all its editor Julius Streicher, were dragged into court hundreds of times. They were convicted, punished and locked into prison. Der Sturmer came to know the Jew from the confession which Dr. Conrad Alberti-Sittenfeld, a Jew, wrote in 1899 in No. 12 of the magazine Gesellschaft:

"One of the most dangerous Jewish qualities is the brutal, direct barbaric intolerance. A worse tyranny cannot be practiced than that which the Jewish clique practices. If you try to move against this Jewish clique, they will, without hesitating, use brutal methods to overcome you. Mainly the Jew tries to destroy his enemy in the mental area, by which he takes his material gain away, and undermines his civil existence. The vilest of all forms of retaliation, the boycott, is characteristically Jewish."

The Der Sturmer was not stopped for several years. Just in Nuremberg alone there have been fought dozens of Talmudic and ritual murder cases in the courts. (Now you know why the Nuremberg trials were held against the German Military leaders, it was retribution by the Jews on their hated enemies the Germans). Because of the Jewish protests the attention of the world was focused on these cases. Thereafter heavy convictions followed. At first no judge had the courage to expose the Jewish problem. Finally in 1932 (court case lasting from October 30th to November 4th) Der Sturmer won its first victory. The jury found the following:

1). Der Sturmer was not fighting against the Jewish religion; but against the Jewish people.
2). The Talmud and Schulchan aruch are not religious books. They have no right to be protected under the religious paragraphs.
3). The laws of the Talmud which are quoted and published in Der Sturmer are exact quotations from the Talmud.
4). The laws of the Talmud are in harsh contradiction to German morals.
5). The Jews of today are being taught from the Talmud.

to protect Judaism and its government. The jews, of course, became greatly agitated about this. But for De Sturmer this success was an omen of the victory yet to come. Of course, Der Sturmer did not stop half way. It knew what had to be done. It was their duty, or so they believed. To frustrate the gigantic murder plot of Judaism against humanity. It was their duty! To brand this nation before the world, to uncover its crimes and to render it harmless. It was their duty! To free the world from this national pest and parasitic race. Der Sturmer would fulfill its mission. It would, for a time, light up the darkness with the truth which shall eventually rule the world. And it would always direct itself according to the following proverb: "He who knows the truth and does not speak it truly is a miserable creature."

The Laws of The Talmud: If one wishes to learn and understand why the Jews can commit such insane crimes as ritual murder, they must know the Jewish secrets. They must know the teachings of the Torah (The Talmud), and the Schulchan aruch. These laws and teachings are proof that the Jews feel themselves superior to all nations, that it has declared war on all other races, and that it is the sworn enemy of the whole of non-Jewish humanity. Even Tactius, the Roman historian who lived shortly after Christ (55-120) A.D.) wrote:

"The Jews are a race that hate the gods and mankind. Their laws are in opposition to those of all mortals. They despise what to us is holy. Their laws condone them in committing acts which horrify us." (Historian V. 3-8)

The Jew knows that when the non-Jewish world knows his laws and sees through his plans that he is lost. Therefore, by threat of death he forbids their translation and publication. A well known Jewish scholar (Dibre David) writes:

"If the Gentiles (non-Jews) knew what we are teaching against them, they would kill us."

The Jewish secret laws are based on the fundamental principle which states: Only the Jew is human. In contrast all non-Jews are animals, they are beasts in human form. Anything is permitted against them. The Jew may lie to, cheat and steal from them. He may rape and murder them. There are hundreds of passages in the Talmud which the non-jews are described as animals. Some of them are as follows:


1). "The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." (Talmud: Baba Mezia 114b)

2). "The Akum (Negro) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the dog more than the Akum." (Ereget Raschi Erod. 22
30)

3). "Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an
animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form." (Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855)

4). "A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." (Coschen Hamischpat 405)

5). "The souls of non-Jews come from impure spirits and are called pigs." (Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b)

6). "Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human." (Schene
Luchoth Haberith, p. 250b)

So that the Jew will never forget that he is dealing with animals, he is reminded by eating, by death, and even by sexual intercourse constantly. For The Talmud teaches:

1). "If you eat with a non-Jew, it is the same as eating with a dog." (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

2). "If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant of maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell to the Jew:
?God will replace ?your loss,' just as if one of his oxen or asses had died." (Jore Dea 377, 1)

3). "Sexual intercoms between non-Jews is like intercourse between animals." (Sanhedrin 74b)

It is written in the Talmud about the murder of the non-Jew:

1). "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a non-Jew." (Sepher Ikkarim IIIc, 25)

2). "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah (Talmud - Sanhedrin 59b). The Christians
belong to the denying ones of the Torah (Talmud)." (Coschen Hamischpat 425, Hagah 425, 5)

3). "Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jew), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." (Bammidber Raba, c 21 & Jalkut 772)

These laws of the Talmud were given to the Jews over 3000 years ago. They are just as valid today as they were back then. This is how the Jews are taught from childhood. The results of this stands before us. It is Jewish Ritual Murder.

The Jews' Bloody History: The Jew is not only the murderer of the Christians in theory. His history proves that he practices what he preaches. The history of the Jewish people is an unbroken chain of mass murders and blood-baths. It started before Christ and has continued with Linen, Trotsky, Sinowjeff, Stalin and etc., up to today:

1). The extreme to which the Jews will go was shown in Persia where the Jew Mordecai and the Jewess Esther had 75,800 Persians murdered. They hanged the Persian King Xerxes' minister Haman along with his ten sons. They celebrated this bloody victory and to this day still celebrate it during the Feast of Purim. (Book of Esther 9:6)

After Christ in the years 115-117, on the island of Cyrene, the Jews revolted under their leader Bar Kochba. They murdered 220,000 Romans, sawed and chopped them, drank their blood, and ate their bloody raw flesh. (Dio Cassius: Roemische Jeschichte XVIII, 32)

The Jews revolted in Russia in 1917 and established bolshevism under the leadership of Trotsky, Sinojeff and other Jews, a total of 35 million Christians were shot, slayed, tortured, and starved to death. In Hungary, under the leadership of the Bolshevik Jew Bela Kuhn, a horrible massacre was prepared in which tens of thousands of Christians were murdered.

I like threads like this ... it allows me to know who to put on the ignore list.

Amazing how big it's getting ... I can't see most of the posts in this one!

The soviets loved the "holohoax" because it made their crimes look less evil. Sure they murdered over 20 million people, but it was for political reasons, murdering 6 million for racial reasons, that is inexcusable! It's okay to kill for politics, but for race, never! At least not by the mid 1940s in Europe.


Remember Kateyn Forest!

Rotten Soviet Bastards!

The holocaust was a lie to gain world sympathy to get Israel created. Also it allows the jews to get away with massacres in Israel by shouting, "Holocaust!" "Anti-semite!" whenever anybody tries to say, "Hey, stop killing people. You're butchering the Palestinians!"

I say we let the Jews butcher the Palestinians. That's the best thing they're good for.

Discover why establishment academics such as Professor Henry Huttenbach of CCNY ("... clever veneer of scholarship ...) and Prof. John Conway of the University of British Columbia ("... a piece of sophisticated Holocaust denial ...") have offered grudging praise -- but no refutation -- of this key revisionist study.

And what else did Henry Huttenbach have to say about this august tome?

"The danger of this book (and of those that will doubtlessly follow), is its clever veneer of scholarship. The bibliography is international in scope and the text has the panache of objectivity.

It does not read like a shrill polemic, but has all the superficial attributes of a factual analysis. Not one in a thousand undergraduate students could find fault with it; only a few more graduates would be competent to identify its flaws and to convincingly question its credibility. The ultimate danger lies in the lack of a serious response to this continuing wave of attacks on history itself."

Yesterday I drove down to Hollywood and I saw a gang of Jews jump on an elderly white lady and tore her apart with their teeth! No joke! The police didn't report it because they're controlled by the Jews, and if you disagree with me you're either Jewish or also controlled by the Jews! MY ARGUMENT IS INVINCIBLE!

I say we let the Jews butcher the Palestinians. That's the best thing they're good for.
Wow. I can't believe you people. I'm sorry, it's just hard to wrap my mind around the thought that there are actually people in this who honest to God think that anyone would ever deserve to be killed for what they believe. You people make me sick.

Jews and their masonic pawns.

As far as I understand it there is no definite agreement between 'Jews and their masonic pawns' as to just how the 'Holocaust' happened, and as such your question makes no sense.

So they beat the man and tortured him until he talked?

Give me twenty minutes with any of you people, I can get you to sign a paper stating you are Bin Laden with plastic surgery to look however you look.
Bullshit, there is enough eyewitness evidence to lock up any of them, and most of that is coming from the defense counsel...the person who is defending him.

Wow. I can't believe you people. I'm sorry, it's just hard to wrap my mind around the thought that there are actually people in this who honest to God think that anyone would ever deserve to be killed for what they believe. You people make me sick.

It's either them or us. The muslims made it that way.

what are you trying to prove with this?

I think that I can safely say that Tenete Traditiones is simply jealous of the math skills of Jews. And probably also the enormous genitals of a black man.
Yet another senseless post by an ignorant and perverted idiot.

what are you trying to prove with this?

His ability to use the cut and paste functions, I believe.

It's either them or us. The muslims made it that way.
Ah, so now it's the muslims fault? Sorry, there is a difference between fighting back when you are attacked and committing mass murder of innocent civilians.

This is getting stupid. Please don't tell me you actually believe this BS, DA. No one can possibly be that stupid.

Given that the Neo Nazis keep denying the Holocaust, could... could it be that they actually acknowledge that it was a bad thing?

Nah.

So, um, don't people get banned for incessantly posting cut and paste threads?

I stand by my statement.

God dammit. One Nazi posts then they all crawl out.

HAHAHAhahahah.... whee.. wow. Thanks, I needed that.

Right, back to my work.
What?

Exactly what makes Bush "right-wing?"
Because Rush Limbaugh screams it when he's not doing drugs?
The Jewish media labeled him and Zionist slaves believe it.

Excuses again for not "playing my game" of using facts to back up statements.

Speaking of which, could you provide me with some reliable sources concerning your claim about australopithecine, please?

Gah.

Take your bigoted, deceitful rubbish to a website that cares.

I recommend http://www.americannaziparty.com/ -- you'll feel right at home there.

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What?

Exactly what makes Bush "right-wing?"
Because Rush Limbaugh screams it when he's not doing drugs?
The Jewish media labeled him and Zionist slaves believe it.

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You should do stand-up.

Speaking of which, could you provide me with some reliable sources concerning your claim about australopithecine, please?
I made not any such claim.
Decisive Action made the claim and he seems to be very reliable factually so take it up with him.

Congradulations. You have been officially deemed a nutcase. People like you are what start events like the holocaust in the first place.

god dammit. What the hell is wrong with you ?
I'm a Jew of european decent, i dont know a hell of alot of people in my family, probably because they were killed, by you nazi freaks.
I suppose my family just "disappeared", luckily parts of my family survived and made it to England, the reason for my exsistance.
What is with the sudden rush of anti-israel, anti-jewish posts ?!, all from this guy.

Oh my God! Steven Spielberg is Jewish??? Who would have guessed!

That just blows me away, I mean, like, wow - that's just so freaky, man ... like, whoa ... what a trip ... all those Kosher dinosaurs, munching on all those white folks - now it makes sense - I guess that's why the Ian Malcolm's character survived - oh wait, no - that was how it was written.

What a worthless thread, started by a deficient mind with far too much time on its hands. Do yourself a favour and find a life. Its not that the Jews are controlling anything, its that people like you have so little talent or ability that it becomes easy for someone with average intelligence and some education (or ambition - or both) to succeed.

Get over yourself.

There is no conspiracy - it is called initiative and old fashioned hard work - having a dream and going after it (I have no rich uncle, it's all been hard work - which has led to international performances of my music, and now I'm working on my first novel).

Check the racist crap at the door - you'll go farther in life, and who knows, you may discover that you actually have some talent that others can appreciate.

I just love loonies.

I made not any such claim.

You, are correct, it wasn't you that made that claim. Apologies.

Decisive Action made the claim and he seems to be very reliable factually so take it up with him.

So, did you find his quoting out of context a man that was dead for 40 years and name-dropping another man who had also been dead for the same period of time prior to the discovery of the skeleton of Australopithecene to be a convincing argument?

It would be easier to (attempt to) respect revisionist supporters if it wasn't so obvious that all their "facts" are uncorroborated regurgitation.

I assume nothing, I try to find out for myself. And according to the Jewish Historian David Cole, it didn't occur, there was no "final solution". But a typhus epidemic did kill over 100,000 jews.

:rolleyes:

David Cole was not a historian, by his own admission. Furthermore, he recanted his revisionist claims seven years ago.

They recently revised the number of jews killed at Auschwitz (they=Polish gov't) from 4 million to 2 million. So why hasn't the "Sacred Six Million" number, dropped to 4 million?

You're wrong. The Communist Polish government claimed that 4 million died at Auschwitz. Holocaust historians such as Raul Hillberg NEVER claimed that number.

Furthermore, your "recently" claim is nothing short of bullshit. Observe the following from Nizkor: http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-09.html

Leon Poliakov, the author of the well-documented "Harvest of Hate," which was, we note, first published in 1956, provides the following information:

"...In his affidavits, Hoess spoke of two and a half million, 'a figure set officially,' he wrote, under the signature of [Eichmann], in a report to Himmler. This figure has been accepted by several authors, and it appears in the verdict at the trial of the major war criminals. However, there is no reason for accepting without question the statistics attributed to Eichmann, which may err on either side.

Adding the number of victims to those deported from different countries gives a lower figure, although we have little data, for example, on the number of Polish Jews sent to Auschwitz. An approximate figure in the neighborhood of two million seems closer to the truth."

48 years. Yeah, that's REAL recent.

Go to hell decisive action

You are an idiot...

I believe it happend, I used to work in a nursing home, I met a man there who showed me his old medals from WW2, he told me how he landed at Normandy, then how his unit moved inland. He showed me pictures he took of the german concentration camps Dakow and Auswitch (i probably did not spell them right). So I think it happend, I heard it from a first hand source.

As usual, you refuse to cite a source for your bullshit Talmud quotes. But the blood libel? That's new.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_blib2.htm

In 1144 CE, an unfounded rumor began in eastern England, that Jews had kidnapped a Christian child, tied him to a cross, stabbed his head to simulate Jesus' crown of thorns, killed him, drained his body completely of blood, and mixed the blood into matzos (unleavened bread) at time of Passover. The rumor arose from a former Jew, Theobald, who had become a Christian monk. He said that Jewish representatives gathered each year in Narbonne, France. They decided in which city a Christian child would be sacrificed. The boy became known as St. William of Norwich. Many people made pilgrimages to his tomb and claimed that miracles had resulted from appeals to St. William. The myth shows a complete lack of understanding of Judaism. Aside from the prohibition of killing innocent persons, the Torah specifically forbids the drinking or eating of any form of blood in any quantity. However, reality never has had much of an impact on blood libel myths. This rumor lasted for many centuries; even today it has not completely disappeared.

Oh my God! Steven Spielberg is Jewish??? Who would have guessed!

That just blows me away, I mean, like, wow - that's just so freaky, man ... like, whoa ... what a trip ... all those Kosher dinosaurs, munching on all those white folks - now it makes sense - I guess that's why the Ian Malcolm's character survived - oh wait, no - that was how it was written.

What a worthless thread, started by a deficient mind with far too much time on its hands. Do yourself a favour and find a life. Its not that the Jews are controlling anything, its that people like you have so little talent or ability that it becomes easy for someone with average intelligence and some education (or ambition - or both) to succeed.

Get over yourself.

There is no conspiracy - it is called initiative and old fashioned hard work - having a dream and going after it (I have no rich uncle, it's all been hard work - which has led to international performances of my music, and now I'm working on my first novel).

Check the racist crap at the door - you'll go farther in life, and who knows, you may discover that you actually have some talent that others can appreciate.

You've obviously yet another idiot who posts nonsensical posts for entertainment. Go drool over MTV because you are just an annoyance here!

As far as I understand it there is no definite agreement between 'Jews and their masonic pawns' as to just how the 'Holocaust' happened, and as such your question makes no sense.

Perhaps it's a typo and he was shooting for "masonic prawns". You know, I've never really trusted those oversized shrimp. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that there is a prawn shadow government secretly plotting the fate of the world. Stock up on cocktail sauce now, folks, because when the truth is known and the revolution happens, there will be some good eatin'!

Go to hell decisive action

Bah! Do you have any idea what that would do to the property value in hell?

Ah, so now it's the muslims fault? Sorry, there is a difference between fighting back when you are attacked and committing mass murder of innocent civilians.
when in doubt blsme islam

god dammit. What the hell is wrong with you ?
I'm a Jew of european decent, i dont know a hell of alot of people in my family, probably because they were killed, by you nazi freaks.
I suppose my family just "disappeared", luckily parts of my family survived and made it to England, the reason for my exsistance.
What is with the sudden rush of anti-israel, anti-jewish posts ?!, all from this guy.

There are a lot of good Jewish genealogy resources out there. Telegram me if you're interested.

Idiocy abounds. The ANP, and this idiocy about ritual sacrifices. As an ethnic Jew, I can say with certainty, that thanks to thousands of years of persecution my people have had very packed schedules - and as such don't have the resources, time, or motivation to slaughter Christian babies... and drink their blood if we're feeling frisky. Believe me, I miss the taste of a Christian's blood, but I just don't have time anymore...

So buy "Baby Blood Shakes..." the taste of home drained Christian babies, without the hassle!

For god's sake, have you ever actually met a Jew, had a conversation with him or her, and thought to yourself: "That ritual sacrifice I've been reading about... heeeeyyyy.... maybe this guys doing it!" I mean come on, there are some crotchity Jews, but I don't think most of my fellow Jews have personalities so abrasive as to be conduscive of the impression of being cavortive blood spillers :P

Actually, I'm Jewish, and the thing that really gets me up in the morning is not coffee, but the blood of Christian virgins.

Thats mmm-mmm good

Come on Myrth, this is blatant flamebait...

Revisionist people are always fun to laugh at.....

Sorry, it happened and the amount the died is nothing more then a symantics game.

My great-uncle liberated a couple of those "resorts" and to the day he died it bothered him.

As he once remarked. Not exact: "It justified every German I killed. At the time I wish I killed more."

Sorry DA very simple minded arguments or are you just a Nazi at heart?

So, did you find his quoting out of context a man that was dead for 40 years and name-dropping another man who had also been dead for the same period of time prior to the discovery of the skeleton of Australopithecene to be a convincing argument?

I said to take it up with him the factuality of his statements.

All:

He just needs attention. Don't give it to him.....

of course it happened but most recent studies arive at the terrible number of ca. 4,5 million deaths. Not 6 million.

Come on Myrth, this is blatant flamebait...

Has anyone reported it on Moderation yet?

god dammit. What the hell is wrong with you ?
I'm a Jew of european decent, i dont know a hell of alot of people in my family, probably because they were killed, by you nazi freaks.
I suppose my family just "disappeared", luckily parts of my family survived and made it to England, the reason for my exsistance.
What is with the sudden rush of anti-israel, anti-jewish posts ?!, all from this guy.

Same for me. I'd have a lot more cousins, aunts and uncles if the Holocaust hadn't happened... and you know, all of those eye witnesses, video recordings... ah but heck, they were faked with high tech Jewish techniques of the 1940s anyway! >:(

Actually, I'm Jewish, and the thing that really gets me up in the morning is not coffee, but the blood of Christian virgins.

Thats mmm-mmm good

Yummy ;) Virgin Blood a la mode really works me up though :D

Yummy ;) Virgin Blood a la mode really works me up though :D

I personally prefer the blood of a male virgin.

They taste quite sweet.

Has anyone reported it on Moderation yet?
Just did.

Come on Myrth, this is blatant flamebait...

As much as I would like to lock this thread and all the other filth, free speech comes first on NationStates. As long as they are expressing their opinions, no matter how vile and disgusting they are, in a civilised manner there's nothing I can do.
My best advice to you is to just ignore it and let it sink to the bottom of the forum.

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I said to take it up with him the factuality of his statements.

Oh, yeah, I'm well prepared to, I was just wondering what you thought on the matter.

As much as I would like to lock this thread and all the other filth, free speech comes first on NationStates. As long as they are expressing their opinions, no matter how vile and disgusting they are, in a civilised manner there's nothing I can do.
My best advice to you is to just ignore it and let it sink to the bottom of the forum.


Yes, but aren't there rules against just cut and pasting over and over again? Didn't TRA get banned for doing exactly that?

As much as I would like to lock this thread and all the other filth, free speech comes first on NationStates. As long as they are expressing their opinions, no matter how vile and disgusting they are, in a civilised manner there's nothing I can do.
My best advice to you is to just ignore it and let it sink to the bottom of the forum.

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This isn't free speech, that is lies and hate...

Yes, but aren't there rules against just cut and pasting over and over again? Didn't TRA get banned for doing exactly that?

He got banned for doing it continually.

This isn't free speech, that is lies and hate...

Free speech means we sometimes have to tolerate hate and lies. Moderators have explicit instructions not to censor people because of their political beliefs.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All this idiot has done is proven that Jews are better than him and that Jews are basically the supreme race! That means I'M better than this jerk!

Do you know why Jews are at the top? It's because of racist dirtbags and anti-semites like TT who, in the past (and still do) attempt to prevent Jews from succeeding well in life and get to the top. As a result, we Jews have had to push ourselves and work harder to smash through this stupid prejudice barrier, and as a result, we pushed ourselves and worked so hard to persevere that the racist jerks like TT couldn't prevent us from rising to the top. So, in turn, it is because of the anti-semitic hate and prejudice that we Jews have risen to the top. Ah, the Irony!

So, TT, if you want to know how to really get rid of the Jews and destroy them, i'll tell you how and let you in on a little secret: The secret of destroying Jews. The way you do it is you stop all of these racist remarks and Jew-bashing, and Jews will simply fall from the top and decline! Because after all, it is because of all of the Pogroms and Holocaust and Jew hatred that we Jews have been strong. After every single cataclysmic event that happens to the Jews, the Jews always come back together and get stronger. Before the Holocaust, Jews were practicing less and less, and they were breaking apart. After the Holocaust happened, Jews united and became strong once again. Now we are starting to break apart and practice less now that the holocaust is forgotten. We can see this now because of all the sects of Judaism (we're now even allowing female Rabbis and Cantors now!!) and how many Jews just do not practice anymore.

So yeah, as long as you stop the prejudice and bashing, Jews will eventually decline and fall apart. But that won't ever happen because it's people like TT who can't keep their cum holes shut. That's right, create another holocaust and we Jews will just keep comin' back at ya!!!!

This isn't free speech, that is lies and hate...


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The Pope is not Jewish. Antipope Karol is Jewish because his mother is Jewish.

Wait, so you have some other Pope skulking around?

Also, as I already stated:

1- You have not proven the Pope's mother was Jewish.
2- If she was Jewish, she seems to have converted to Catholicism.
3- That would make her a Catholic of Jewish descent, not a "Jew".
4- Ditto for the Pope.

“Our ways of life and those of the Jews are utterly different, and Jews will easily pervert the souls of simple folk to their superstition and unbelief if such folk are living in continual and intimate intercourse with them.”
~Pope Alexander III

Tee-hee. He said "intercourse".

John Paul II is not just a Jew but also a heretic and a communist who therefore cannot become the Pope.

A Communist? Whose ass did you pull THAT out of?

According to Judaism 101: http://www.jewfaq.org/


It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox.

You're misrepresenting the quote. It specifically says ATHEIST, that is, someone with NO religious affiliation or identity. That's different than if you've actively chosen to follow ANOTHER FAITH.

Judaism basically has an inclusive outlook on the unaffiliated as being Jewish until they do something to the contrary. So if someone has no religion, they're considered as being "secular Jews". If someone gets a NEW religion, they have cut themselves off.

"I BOW TO FREEDOM, FRATERNITY AND EQUALITY"~ Antipope John Paul II

Holy shit! Heaven forbid the Catholic Church believe in THOSE awful, "Jewish" values! :rolleyes:

Blacks, Asians, Arabs, Hispanics and Jews have no place in a White country.

How is this a "white" country?

Blacks are especially good at crime, with more black men in jail then in college.

I'd say that has much more to do with poverty (can't afford a good HS education, much less college, and probably can't afford proper defense lawyers, either) than race.

With Jewish propaganda like propaganda like Cosby's or Proud Family

Dude... WHY are you watching the Disney channel?

Muslim mosques in AmeriKa are allowed to broadcast mulsim prayers throughout the city on loudspeakers, but Christian kids can't read a bible during lunch or volutarily take part in prayer outside?

Entirely different issues. Muslim MOSQUES are places of worship. A public school is not. If you want to pray, do it off-campus. (And, if you're a private school, do whatever the hell you want.)

When a christian extremist kills abortion doctors or sets off a bomb, it's "right-wing extremism" usually by 'racist' white males and it's conservative talk radio's fault. When muslims kill 3000 people in the worst attack since Pearl Harbor, it's the 'terrorists who hijacked islam; the religion of peace'.

How are these statements inaccurate? Most christian extremists, particularly those who kill abortion doctors, ARE right-wing. The "racist" thing is largely variable. As far as talk radio... well, some of the more incendiary rhetoric could be debated, but it's really sort of a toss-up.

I would say the Muslim statement is true, BUT, you could say the same thing about Christianity- and some people do. Most folks assume the 75% of Christians in this country are smart enough to know that some asshole blowing up a clinic doesn't represent their religion. After 9/11, we needed to be TOLD, repeatedly, that 9/11 didn't represent Islam. Apparently, it wasn't enough, since attacks against Muslims (and Sikhs) continued for months afterwards.

This is how Jewish controlled media have programmed the masses to think about religion AmeriKa.

"Think about religion"? Islam and Judaism are religions, too, genius.

First Jew means you come from tribe of Judah, Hebrew means you come from any tribe. So yes Jews are hebrew.

Wrong.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=jew

1 a : a member of the tribe of Judah b : ISRAELITE
2 : a member of a nation existing in Palestine from the 6th century B.C. to the 1st century A.D.
3 : a person belonging to a continuation through descent or conversion of the ancient Jewish people
4 : one whose religion is Judaism

The term "Jew" is most often used to refer to definitions 3 and 4, particularly BY JEWS. Since not all Jews are of the tribe of Judah, and most Jews have no clue what tribe they're from, anyway, I stand by my statement.

And yes, "Hebrew" is archaic. Take it from someone who knows. Calling a Jew "a Hebrew" is considered quite inappropriate, somewhere comparable to "Negro" for blacks, and "Mohammedan" for Muslims.

I don't see Christianity as thousands of denominations including UU but as Roman Catholic and heretic. Unlike the Jew and goy, I do not view White Protestants as subhuman animals or inferior in any way.

Right, they're not inferior, they're just heretics.

BTW, Judaism DOES NOT see Gentiles as being "subhuman animals".

But UU would not even be considered part of Christianity in the common Protestant sense

Since when do you take your talking points from heretics? Sounds like you might be sliding a little bit from the "righteous path" yourself. :D

"White Jew" is an oxymoron.

And yet... there are millions of white Jews in the world.

Food for thought.

No. They (Jews and Blacks) ruined their own countries and come here to ruin ours.

Excuse me? My ancestors came to this country fleeing persecution in Europe. Those countries were hardly "their own". Blacks were kidnapped from Africa and FORCED here.

This is why they are not fit to lead America.

Fuck you! European Christians aren't that great, either! A lot of early American settlers were indentured servants and former convicts! What makes THEM fit to lead?

Is it just a pure coincidence that the blacks over the globe continued to lead tribal existences or at best created fledgling centralized governments while practically every pure white country was creating a prosperous culture? That, while Michelangelo was painting the Sistine Chapel, in Africa they some guy was smearing mud on rock walls? That, while the African's were pondering how best to throw a piece of wood at an animal, Issac Newton was formulating the theory of gravity?

You're an idiot and obviously ignorant of African culture.

AmeriKa used to be one. Before the Jews and Hispanics ruined their own countries and took control of ours.

Exactly what country was "the Jews' own"? Help me out, here.

How is it diverse to have a small group be massive overrepresented in an area?

How diverse is a "white country"?

About congress, when you add up all the racial jews, and ignore the fact that many of the jews converted to Christianity (like Kerry) you'll see there are about 20% jews in the US Congress.

Prove it. Cite a source.

As I pointed out earlier, Blacks are main source of crime. Asians thrive off of White society just as the others do. What is wrong with staying in Asia?

What's wrong with white going back to Europe? :rolleyes:

You have NO MORE CLAIM to this country than anyone else. We are ALL immigrants, including you.

Jesus was a Levite.

Levites ARE Jews, genius. There are three castes within Judaism. Levites are one of them. We've been over this "Judah" tangent. And you bitched about MY semantics.

But I don't think people are in the habit of just killing black boys for no reason, that's the truth; if for no other reason, people have other things to do!

Perhaps you should read a book.

If jews are so commendable, why have they failed to create themselves a state in the past 2000 or so years.

Lack of power. Duh.

From a Biblical perspective, they lost Israel, and have since then become parasites in Europe and more recently, the USA.

Maybe you should do some more research. Jews have contributed more than their fair share to the USA's and Europe's accomplishments.

And all of a sudden the world must cater to the establishment of a state already occupied in Palestine, with White, not Jewish blood and resources being used to create it.

Once again, you're an idiot. Plenty of Jewish resources went into creating Israel, and PLENTY of Jews died trying to build it and then defending it.

Exactly what "white blood" was spilled over Israel?

Then again, perhaps I'm biased, being a goy.

You being a Gentile has nothing to do with it. You being a dumb-ass is far more relevant.

The land was occupied.

Nothing like the USA, right?

Had the Jews shed their own blood in a war to take the land for their own state I would not care.

They did. Read a book.

Instead they had American funding and military assistance

Bullshit.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/1948_War.html

The Jews won their war of independence with minimal help from the West. In fact, they won despite efforts to undermine their military strength.

Although the United States vigorously supported the partition resolution, the State Department did not want to provide the Jews with the means to defend themselves. "Otherwise," Undersecretary of State Robert Lovett argued, "the Arabs might use arms of U.S. origin against Jews, or Jews might use them against Arabs."14 Consequently, on December 5, 1947, the U.S. imposed an arms embargo on the region.

Many in the State Department saw the embargo as yet another means of obstructing partition. President Truman nevertheless went along with it hoping it would be a means of averting bloodshed. This was naive given Britain's rejection of Lovett's request to suspend weapons shipments to the Arabs and subsequent agreements to provide additional arms to Iraq and Transjordan.15

The Arabs had no difficulty obtaining all the arms they needed. In fact, Jordan's Arab Legion was armed and trained by the British, and led by a British officer. At the end of 1948 and beginning of 1949, British RAF planes flew with Egyptian squadrons over the Israel-Egypt border. On January 7, 1949, Israeli planes shot down four of the British aircraft.16

The Jews, on the other hand, were forced to smuggle weapons, principally from Czechoslovakia. When Israel declared its independence in May 1948, the army did not have a single cannon or tank. Its air force consisted of nine obsolete planes. Although the Haganah had 60,000 trained fighters, only 18,900 were fully mobilized, armed and prepared for war.17 On the eve of the war, chief of operations Yigael Yadin told David Ben-Gurion: "The best we can tell you is that we have a 50*50 chance."18

The Arab war to destroy Israel failed. Indeed, because of their aggression, the Arabs wound up with less territory than they would have had if they had accepted partition.

The cost to Israel, however, was enormous. "Many of its most productive fields lay gutted and mined. Its citrus groves, for decades the basis of the Yishuv's [Jewish community] economy, were largely destroyed."19 Military expenditures totaled approximately $500 million. Worse yet, 6,373 Israelis were killed, nearly one percent of the Jewish population of 650,000.

Had the West enforced the partition resolution or given the Jews the capacity to defend themselves, many lives might have been saved.

How dare you say the Jews didn't "shed blood" for their independence.

Don't even let these people bother you, the war is coming, and then all the wrongs will be put right. I've seen the war, I know about it, I've seen it, I know it is going to happen. It's soon going to be a reality. I've seen it.

See you there, asshole.

Whites are the only true "human", we evolved from Homo erectus and Homo habilis into Homo sapiens. Making us "Humans"

The other races are a descended from the Australopithecine.

Prove it.

Jews are accursed after repeated denial of God and for commiting deicide against Christ and his followers.

Read your own Bible, Moron. Romans, not Jews.

The mark of Cain can be the Star of David, as corrupted by the Israeli flag or more likely darker skin and inferior structure.

Or it could be the crucifix. Or a big pimple. Or YOUR FACE.

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Buzz off CM. You're ignored.

You've obviously yet another idiot who posts nonsensical posts for entertainment. Go drool over MTV because you are just an annoyance here!

Actually, I like that person a lot. They're not annoying me in the least.

And if you claim you're providing the true facts, then do me a favor.

PROVIDE SOURCES.

You've barely done it for any of the "facts" you've listed.

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How is this a "white" country?






How diverse is a "white country"?





Naturalization Act of 1790.


We are diverse because we have 30-40 different European nationalities and cultures here. German, English, Irish, Russian, Polish, Belgian, Dutch, Italian, French, Spanish, Serbian, etc.

Naturalization Act of 1790.

Jews were here as early as the 1650s. So much for that argument.

Also, can you maybe point to a particular part of the act to justify your connection? If you're talking about the only "free white persons" bit, then doesn't that mean most women aren't allowed to be citizens, either? Also, at the time, Slavs and Italians weren't considered "white", so they should be out, too. I'm not sure if the Founders at that point considered Jews to be "white", but I'm fairly sure they were allowed to be citizens.

Lastly, I think the Naturalization Act of 2000 might be a little more relevant to the present-day. Just a thought.

We are diverse because we have 30-40 different European nationalities and cultures here. German, English, Irish, Russian, Polish, Belgian, Dutch, Italian, French, Spanish, Serbian, etc.

Blacks were here before Italians. Again, why is this a "white nation"? By what logic?

Jews were here as early as the 1650s. So much for that argument.

Also, can you maybe point to a particular part of the act to justify your connection? If you're talking about the only "free white persons" bit, then doesn't that mean most women aren't allowed to be citizens, either? Also, at the time, Slavs and Italians weren't considered "white", so they should be out, too. I'm not sure if the Founders at that point considered Jews to be "white", but I'm fairly sure they were allowed to be citizens.

Lastly, I think the Naturalization Act of 2000 might be a little more relevant to the present-day. Just a thought.



Blacks were here before Italians. Again, why is this a "white nation"? By what logic?



Here is what the founders thought of the Jews.


This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina: "I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. "In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian Religion upon which that nation is founded by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.

For over 1700 years the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, they call Palestine. But, Gentlemen, should the world today give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some cogent reason for not returning. Why? Because they are Vampires, and Vampires do not live on Vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.

If you do not exclude them from these United States, in this Constitution in less than 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land, and change our form of government [which they have done -- they have changed it from a Republic to a Democracy], for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance and jeopardized our liberty.

If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them sustenance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, Gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, Gentlemen, are Asiatics; let them be born where they will, or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A Leopard cannot change its spots.

Jews are asiatics, they are a menace to this country if permitted entrance and should be excluded by this Constitution." (by Benjamin Franklin, who was one of the six founding fathers designated to draw up The Declaration of Independence. He spoke before the Constitutional Congress in May 1787, and asked that Jews be barred from immigrating to America. The above are his exact words as quoted from the diary of General Charles Pickney of Charleston, S.C.).



"Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (read that Jewish influence), I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens, the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake; since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican Government. But that jealousy, to be useful, must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation, and excessive dislike of another, cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real Patriots, who may resist the intrigues of the favorite, are liable to become suspected and odious; while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests. Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice?" (Washington's Farewell Address).


"The public negotiations and secret intrigues of the English (Jews) and the French (Jews) have been employed for centuries in every court and country in Europe. Look back to the history of Spain, Holland, Germany, Russia, Sweden, Denmark, Prussia, Italy and Turkey for the last hundred years...all the power of Europe will be continually maneuvering with us to work us into the real or imaginary balance of power." (John Adams)


"The citizens of the United States cherish sentiments the most friendly in favor of liberty and happiness...beyond the Atlantic. In the wars of the European powers in matters relating to themselves we have never taken any part, nor does it comport with our policy to do so. It is only when our rights are invaded or seriously menaced that we resent injuries..." (President James Monroe).



"Their (Europe's - Jewish) mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war. All their energies are expended in the destruction of the labor, property, and lives of their people. On our part never had a people so favorable a chance of trying the opposite system, of peace and fraternity with mankind, and the direction of all our means and faculties to the purposes of improvement instead of destruction...And the system of government which shall keep us afloat amidst the wreck of the world will be immortalized in history. I am so far from believing that our reputation will be tarnished by our not having mixed in the made contests of the rest of the world that, setting aside the ravings of pepper-pot politicians, of whom there are enough in every age and country,, I believe it will place us high on the scale of wisdom to have preserved our country tranquil and prosperous during a contest which prostrated the honor, power, independence, laws, and property of every country on the other side of the Atlantic." (President Thomas Jefferson)

Whites are the only true "human", we evolved from Homo erectus and Homo habilis into Homo sapiens. Making us "Humans"

The other races are a descended from the Australopithecine.


The jews are a mixture of arab, semite, asian, and african blood, the ultimate mongrelized race. They are originally from central Asia. Jews are Khazars.

Wow. How Ignorant. Okay, let's pretend that these are "facts" for a moment. Since Australopithecus is of an entirely different genus than the later hominids, they would not be able to interbreed, therefore any mixed race family would be unable to procreate. Only animals of the same species can produce fertile offspring.
Therefore, by definition and irrefutably we are all Homo Sapiens Sapiens. In fact, there is some speculation that European man may have some Neanderthal (Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis) genes, though this has not been confirmed. The debate on whether Neanderthal was a seperate species or a sub-species still rages.

Genetically, the races are not noticably different from each other. Skin color, genetically, is about as significant a difference as height or eye color or any other minor variations.

Men who settled in regions farther to the north lost their darker pigmentation, as it was no longer needed to protect them from the brutal sunlight of equatorial regions. That's the only difference.

Mytochodrial DNA suggests that very recently (less than 150,000 years, I think,) mankind was almost wiped out, and we are ALL descended from a single tribe or group of tribes. So, you're trashing your relatives when you get rascist.

Oh, and I am an American of part German and Irish descent, as if that makes any difference.

Jesus was a Levite.
Mary's mother was Anna, of the Levi tribe, not of Judah.
Therefore Mary was a Levite as was her Son.

Relations between Biblical Hebrews and modern "jews" have yet to be proven anyway.

A Levite is a Jew, Levi's were a Tribe of Israel

Whites are the only true "human"

I think you'll find genetics says otherwise. Retard.

Here is what the founders thought of the Jews.


Those quotes have been debunked.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/what_they_said.html

The quote alleged to be by Franklin is a forgery. It is discussed in "They Never Said It" by Boller and George.

...In his famous letter to "The Hebrew Congregation in Newport," written in 1790, President George Washington pledged that the new nation would "give to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance" and thereby set the standard for religious freedom and civil liberties in America.

From http://www.nps.gov/tosy/

In the light of these comments, George Washington could hardly be accused of being an anti-Semite. The full text of the letter follows:

To the Hebrew Congregation in Newport Rhode Island

Gentlemen:

While I receive with much satisfaction, your Address replete with expressions of affection and esteem, I rejoice in the opportunity of answering you, that I shall always retain a grateful remembrance of the cordial welcome I experienced in my visit to New port, from all classes of Citizens.

The reflection on the days of difficulty and danger which are past, is rendered the more sweet, from a consciousness that they are succeeded by days of uncommon prosperity and security. If we have wisdom to make the best use of the advantages with which we are now favored, we cannot fail, under the just administration of a good Government, to become a great and a happy people.

The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.

It would be inconsistent with the frankness of my character not to avow that I am pleased with your favorable opinion of my administration, and fervent wishes for my felicity. May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants, while every one shall sit in safety under his own wine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. May the father of all mercies scatter light and not darkness in our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in his own due time and way everlastingly happy.

George Washington Letter to the Touro Synagogue, 1790

http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/HistoryWorld/~~/cGY9MzAmcHI9MTAmc3M9YXV0aG9yJnNmPWFsbCZ2aWV3PXVzYSZzZD1hc2MmY2k9MDE5NTA2NDY5MA==

Many of the misquotes are quite harmless. Some are inadvertent misquotes that have become popular (Shakespeare actually said, "The best part of valor is discretion"), others, the inventions of reporters embellishing a story (Franklin Roosevelt never opened a speech to a DAR group with the salutation, "My fellow immigrants"). But some of the quotes, such as Charles Darwin's supposed deathbed recantation of evolution, falsify the historical record with their blatant dishonesty. And other chillingly vicious ones, filled with virulent racial and religious prejudices, completely distort the views of the person supposedly quoted and spread distrust and hatred among the gullible. These include the forged remarks attributed to Benjamin Franklin that Jews should be excluded from America and the fabricated condemnation of Catholics attributed to Lincoln.

Wrong again. Ass-hat.

First of all, Jews are a race, not a religion.

Come on now, you don't have to be such a flat-out idiot. I am 100% Japanese descent, and my parents converted before I was born, because Judaism is a western religion that hold many of the values in Buddhism.

And if you can put every "bad" Jew on a single page, that is hilarious. Have you even noticed that the Jews have been around for thousands of years, and when other great civilizations died (such as the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, etc) The Jews are still around, and if they are truely dominating the entertainment industry, they show no signs of defeat. Congratulations, on declaring that the Jews are way better than you.

ahahahahaha

aHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

I love Nazis so much :D Some of these claims are classic, I'm going to have to bookmark some pages. I'm not done reading but I'll be so happy if someone mentioned the Protocols of Zion.

Genetically, the races are not noticably different from each other. Skin color, genetically, is about as significant a difference as height or eye color or any other minor variations.

Lol, i always love this one! The difference between men and women, ie all the differences in build, brain organisation, psychology, reproductive systems, life span, etc, can all be traced back to a single chromosome. The difference between 2 members of the same sex but of different races is ten times as great as the difference between 2 members of different sex but the same race. Guess that must mean gender is a myth too.....

Men who settled in regions farther to the north lost their darker pigmentation, as it was no longer needed to protect them from the brutal sunlight of equatorial regions. That's the only difference.

Ah. The recorded differences in pyschology, IQ, resistance to different diseases, dietary tolerances, inerited genetic diseases and physical make up are a myth too?? Damn all those evil scientists froging all those studies and statistics that prove this! d'oh!

Mytochodrial DNA suggests that very recently (less than 150,000 years, I think,) mankind was almost wiped out, and we are ALL descended from a single tribe or group of tribes. So, you're trashing your relatives when you get rascist.

Your point being what? If i go back far enough i can find a common ancestor between humans and dolphins if i wanted to, it has absolutely no relevance. Btw, did you know that northern europeans can actually trace their ancesty back to a group of no more than 50 people just prior to the last ice age?

Oh, and I am an American of part German and Irish descent, as if that makes any difference.

I dont think it does, but since you bring it up... im English. Nice to meet you. ;)

Come on now, you don't have to be such a flat-out idiot. I am 100% Japanese descent, and my parents converted before I was born, because Judaism is a western religion that hold many of the values in Buddhism.


I forgot to mention that I recommend all Jews to use the blood of a baby as soy sauce and eat sushi with it! It tastes absolutly great.

ahahahahaha

aHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

I love Nazis so much :D Some of these claims are classic, I'm going to have to bookmark some pages. I'm not done reading but I'll be so happy if someone mentioned the Protocols of Zion.

Then come here and kiss me big boy! lol. I dont think im going out on a limb here to assume your a zionist, or at least a sympathiser? So dont give me any of that bs about being unbiased in this debate.

Here is what the founders thought of the Jews.

Being a know-nothing, xenophobic, anti-semetic, idiotic moron is one thing. Putting lies into the mouths of dead men, the men who had a vision for my country which I love dearly is entirely something else.



Snip the well documented and debunked "Benjamin Franklin Prophesy" crap.



This is a lie and a known forgery. Benjamin Franklin not only never said these things, but the forgery is from somewhere around 1937-38 in an AMERICAN fascist publication in order to serve as pro-Nazi propoganda. The verbage is wrong for someone writing in the 18th Century and Franklin actualy signed a petition to establish a Jewish league in Philidelphia.


"Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (read that Jewish influence), I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens, the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake; since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican Government. But that jealousy, to be useful, must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation, and excessive dislike of another, cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real Patriots, who may resist the intrigues of the favorite, are liable to become suspected and odious; while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests. Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice?" (Washington's Farewell Address).

Again, pure lies and putting words into the mouth of a dead man. Washington actually supported Jewish rights in America, sending a letter in 1790 to the Jewish community in Rhode Island, stating: May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. I will most certainly not "read that" as Jewish when there is no shred of evidence to support that interpretation.


"The public negotiations and secret intrigues of the English (Jews) and the French (Jews) have been employed for centuries in every court and country in Europe. Look back to the history of Spain, Holland, Germany, Russia, Sweden, Denmark, Prussia, Italy and Turkey for the last hundred years...all the power of Europe will be continually maneuvering with us to work us into the real or imaginary balance of power." (John Adams)

Look, more lies and "interpretation". Non-Jewish English and French were perfectly capable of creating intrigues, so what basis you have to insert that little parenthesis, other than your own bile-filled world-view, in there is beyond me.


"The citizens of the United States cherish sentiments the most friendly in favor of liberty and happiness...beyond the Atlantic. In the wars of the European powers in matters relating to themselves we have never taken any part, nor does it comport with our policy to do so. It is only when our rights are invaded or seriously menaced that we resent injuries..." (President James Monroe).

This doesn't even refer to Jewish people in passing, let alone in specific.


"Their (Europe's - Jewish) mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war. All their energies are expended in the destruction of the labor, property, and lives of their people. On our part never had a people so favorable a chance of trying the opposite system, of peace and fraternity with mankind, and the direction of all our means and faculties to the purposes of improvement instead of destruction...And the system of government which shall keep us afloat amidst the wreck of the world will be immortalized in history. I am so far from believing that our reputation will be tarnished by our not having mixed in the made contests of the rest of the world that, setting aside the ravings of pepper-pot politicians, of whom there are enough in every age and country,, I believe it will place us high on the scale of wisdom to have preserved our country tranquil and prosperous during a contest which prostrated the honor, power, independence, laws, and property of every country on the other side of the Atlantic." (President Thomas Jefferson)

Like Adams, Jefferson was not referring to the Jewish people, but to Europeans in general. There is no reason, basis or, indeed, evidence to justify your interpretation.

A Levite is a Jew, Levi's were a Tribe of Israel

Wrong...

Levis were a Tribe of the Israelites, but very to little Jews are Israelites. Some may have blood of the Israelites in them, but this was due to the Israelites interbreeding with the Cannites. A Levite is a Levite, simply that. Not a Jew, nor is a Jew a Levite.

American History X, watch it.

I wonder where the phrase "King of the Jews" came from? Also, wasn't Jesus supposed to be descended from David?

I wonder where the phrase "King of the Jews" came from? Also, wasn't Jesus supposed to be descended from David?

Correction - the Sign was "King of the Judeans" - the translators made a mistake. And no, the Term "Jew" doesn't mean you are from Judah.

And yes Yahsha was a descendant of King David. Matthew 1 sums this up.

Correction - the Sign was "King of the Judeans" - the translators made a mistake. And no, the Term "Jew" doesn't mean you are from Judah.

And yes Yahsha was a descendant of King David. Matthew 1 sums this up.

And David was the King of whom?

(Though I do not believe this, as I have studied enough to know that there are other world powers and its probably not just a Jewish world conspiracy, if you actually READ about certain groups that have influence in the world that consist of Muslims, and other religions you would understand that saying that the Jews are at the center of the conspiracy is ridiculous)

Hypothetically:

So are you saying that because there are some powerful, elite Jews that have "worked" a conspiracy as you think, that every commoner Jew should be persecuted? That is like saying because the elite in any race is corrupt (And in any race it seems the elite often become corrupt) that the common people of that race should be persecuted. Trying to say that every Jew subscribes to a belief of world domination is ridiculous Anti-Semitic propaganda. I believe in conspiracies, and power networks. But these power networks consist of more than just Jews.....

And David was the King of whom?

Of the Israelites (it was unified), He was a Judean by blood, but the Jews are not Judeans, in fact very little would even be considered Israelites.

(Though I do not believe this, as I have studied enough to know that there are other world powers and its probably not just a Jewish world conspiracy, if you actually READ about certain groups that have influence in the world that consist of Muslims, and other religions you would understand that saying that the Jews are at the center of the conspiracy is ridiculous)

Hypothetically:

So are you saying that because there are some powerful, elite Jews that have "worked" a conspiracy as you think, that every commoner Jew should be persecuted? That is like saying because the elite in any race is corrupt (And in any race it seems the elite often become corrupt) that the common people of that race should be persecuted. Trying to say that every Jew subscribes to a belief of world domination is ridiculous Anti-Semitic propaganda. I believe in conspiracies, and power networks. But these power networks consist of more than just Jews.....

Don't say "Anti-Semitic" - it doesn't apply to many Jews - maybe 10%, probably less.

Then Anti-Jewish/Racist propaganda

(Though I do not believe this, as I have studied enough to know that there are other world powers and its probably not just a Jewish world conspiracy, if you actually READ about certain groups that have influence in the world that consist of Muslims, and other religions you would understand that saying that the Jews are at the center of the conspiracy is ridiculous)

Hypothetically:

So are you saying that because there are some powerful, elite Jews that have "worked" a conspiracy as you think, that every commoner Jew should be persecuted? That is like saying because the elite in any race is corrupt (And in any race it seems the elite often become corrupt) that the common people of that race should be persecuted. Trying to say that every Jew subscribes to a belief of world domination is ridiculous Anti-Semitic propaganda. I believe in conspiracies, and power networks. But these power networks consist of more than just Jews.....


The entire Jewish race is elite and filled with Neo-Bolsheviks.

So many on my ignore list!

This thread has been so helpful in letting me know who to cast out of my NS experience.

Come on now, you don't have to be such a flat-out idiot. I am 100% Japanese descent, and my parents converted before I was born, because Judaism is a western religion that hold many of the values in Buddhism. Judaism could not be any less Western. It was brought to the West by Eastern parasites and it promotes "chosen people" supremacy by the Jews above all else.


And if you can put every "bad" Jew on a single page, that is hilarious. Have you even noticed that the Jews have been around for thousands of years, and when other great civilizations died (such as the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, etc) The Jews are still around, and if they are truely dominating the entertainment industry, they show no signs of defeat. Congratulations, on declaring that the Jews are way better than you.

Greeks and Romans are still around today also...
The Jews never had a great civilization, only a pathetic little kingdom in Palestine rife with corruption and deceit. They have survived rather easily in their host nations for millenia, thriving off of decent Gentiles.

Hmmm...

Christianity is descended from Judaism, although both had their beginnings in the Middle East.

Native Americans are about as Western as anything gets, but I'm guessing you're not counting them.

So if Judaism isn't Western... then what is? And what's so great about the West anyway?

The entire Jewish race is elite and filled with Neo-Bolsheviks.

Could you explain why Stalin, a good old-fashioned Bolshevik if there ever was one, felt it necessary to persecute and kill so many Jews in the USSR, then? No doubt that -- like everthing else that threatens your terrified little ideology -- is all lies and propaganda too?

Judaism could not be any less Western. It was brought to the West by Eastern parasites and it promotes "chosen people" supremacy by the Jews above all else.

That's pretty appaling. Imagine having a creed which says that you're better than anyone else, that you are a member of a special race. Awful.

The Jews never had a great civilization, only a pathetic little kingdom in Palestine rife with corruption and deceit. They have survived rather easily in their host nations for millenia, thriving off of decent Gentiles.

And yet -- somehow -- they're all "elite" and capable of running a vast, global conspiracy that only you (and a tiny handful of other scientifically illiterate bozos) have managed to crack. It's not the most consistent world-view I've ever heard, I must say. Plus, I wouldn't exactly call 2,000 years of well-documented persecution and ghettoisation "thriving".

I couldn't have said it better myself Jeldred. I just hope this person never finds someone sufficiently drugged to allow procreation.

Could you explain why Stalin, a good old-fashioned Bolshevik if there ever was one, felt it necessary to persecute and kill so many Jews in the USSR, then?

Stalin wanted a reaction from the U.S. so that he could start WWIII.

The entire Jewish race is elite and filled with Neo-Bolsheviks.

As though Alexander Berkman was authoritarian. :rolleyes: What about your stereotype of Jews being greedy? How can they be both commies and cappies?

Plus, I wouldn't exactly call 2,000 years of well-documented persecution and ghettoisation "thriving".
The Jews are some of the richest and most educated people in any society they live in... Jews in Africa, America, Europe, and China have established enormous fortunes and reputation in the arts and sciences.

However we shouldn't fault the Jews for being so goddamn rich and powerful. In fact it is a credit to the Jewish religion/culture's emphasis on education and hard work. Other minorities are prosperous like the Jews too, for example the Jains, Parsis, overseas Indians, overseas Armenians, and overseas Chinese. Minorities often are more prosperous than the surrounding majority populations because of the sense of community and underdog mentality that they have and which allows them to thrive even in the face of persecution.

Well rather than bash you im going to have to agree that yes it is a jewish controlled media. Its true there are. But im not going to by into the thought that they are controlling the nation.

I liked the part where the white peole stole land from the natives.

As long as the discussion remains focused on the Jewish political aspect then yes the Novus Ordo Church is part of this discussion. However I felt the need to stifle the idiotic sarcasm of Gorka. I do not wish for a theological debate in this thread, either. The issue of left-wing control over the Church is enough for its own thread.

I was just trying to make a point by using "idiotic sarcasm". I did not know of any "Novus Ordo Church", nor of any "left-wing" control over the Catholic church. In my opinion, the idea of a Jewish conspiracy for world domination is just as preposterous as the notion of a Catholic conspiracy would be. But I take it you disagree on the subject of the latter?

-- EDIT -- Having finally read through the entire thread, your political views as well as your ideological beliefs have become all too clear to me. I would prefer if you'd refrain from answering this post at all, as I have no illusion that a sensible and logically founded argument could ever take place between the two of us.

That's pretty appaling. Imagine having a creed which says that you're better than anyone else, that you are a member of a special race. Awful.
Yet you support Zion...



And yet -- somehow -- they're all "elite" and capable of running a vast, global conspiracy that only you (and a tiny handful of other scientifically illiterate bozos) have managed to crack. It's not the most consistent world-view I've ever heard, I must say. Plus, I wouldn't exactly call 2,000 years of well-documented persecution and ghettoisation "thriving".
They still don't have an empire. They lack the moral fiber for one to survive. They instead destroy other's empires be seizing control over the media and therefore gaining proxy control over the government.

God, why do you Nazis care? You understand that the amount of important people that arent Jewish in American society are way larger that the number that are? And even if a lot of Jewish people are in powerful positions, thats great! There is nothing wrong with that! Please, at least do no claim you Nazis are Christian, because you would be bastardizing the Christian religion by saying so.

Yet you support Zion...

Yet you're a white supremacist

They still don't have an empire. They lack the moral fiber for one to survive. They instead destroy other's empires be seizing control over the media and therefore gaining proxy control over the government.
Hasn't been driven into the ground yet, they must be doing something right.

Whats wrong with White supremicists? If you have a problem with them do you have a problem with Femminists? The NAACP?

Whats wrong with White supremicists? If you have a problem with them do you have a problem with Femminists? The NAACP?
"That's pretty appaling. Imagine having a creed which says that you're better than anyone else, that you are a member of a special race. Awful."

Irony see yet?

I don't see the irony. Every race thinks its better than the other. Its built into every primate at a genetic level. Thats why we have almost any ism you can think of.

Forget the Jews, it's the aliens we need to worry about. See, I have these special sunglasses that lets me see them. They started with mating with cavewomen, but they didn't stop there. They had to go build the Pyramids in Egypt and the Ziggurats in Meso-America.

You know all the biblical plagues? Yup, they did those too.

I have it on very good authority that the continuing success of reality shows are really just the outward manifestation of their continuing psychological experiments on us.

Other accomplishments of the aliens:

Protestants
Szih Tzus
The "Ernest Goes To..." movies
The Magna Carta
The Manga Carta (similar, but in comic book form)
Artificial vanilla flavor
Mobile homes
Abe Vigoda
Soccer
Marisa Tomei's Oscar
Crop rhombuses, but not crop circles (those are hoaxes)
Tom Selleck's mustache
Mozart's Concerto for Ion/Neutrinio Propulsion Systems in C#
Vulcanized rubber
Etch-a-Sketch
Old Faithful
Women's basketball
The collected works of Jackie Collins
And, last but not least, New Coke

It's all true, man! Now, I need to get my aluminum foil hat on before they see me. The feather in it is just for show.

Forget the Jews, it's the aliens we need to worry about. See, I have these special sunglasses that lets me see them. They started with mating with cavewomen, but they didn't stop there. They had to go build the Pyramids in Egypt and the Ziggurats in Meso-America.

You know all the biblical plagues? Yup, they did those too.

I have it on very good authority that the continuing success of reality shows are really just the outward manifestation of their continuing psychological experiments on us.

Other accomplishments of the aliens:

Protestants
Szih Tzus
The "Ernest Goes To..." movies
The Magna Carta
The Manga Carta (similar, but in comic book form)
Artificial vanilla flavor
Mobile homes
Abe Vigoda
Soccer
Marisa Tomei's Oscar
Crop rhombuses, but not crop circles (those are hoaxes)
Tom Selleck's mustache
Mozart's Concerto for Ion/Neutrinio Propulsion Systems in C#
Vulcanized rubber
Etch-a-Sketch
Old Faithful
Women's basketball
The collected works of Jackie Collins
And, last but not least, New Coke

It's all true, man! Now, I need to get my aluminum foil hat on before they see me. The feather in it is just for show.
Damn Strait! New Coke especially, that was the aliens.

¡Ding (http://www.rotten.com/library/history/racism/holocaust-denial/)!

Hasn't been driven into the ground yet, they must be doing something right.
They've deceived everyone as this is their only skill.
When the truth be know, the juden shadow government will fall and the White people will be free again.

They've deceived everyone as this is their only skill.
When the truth be know, the juden shadow government will fall and the White people will be free again.

Why don't you make yourself really white and jump in a pool of bleach? Be sure to swallow a lot, so your insides can be all white too.

Why don't you make yourself really white and jump in a pool of bleach? Be sure to swallow a lot, so your insides can be all white too.
Your intelligence is truly amazing. :rolleyes:

¡Ding (http://www.rotten.com/library/history/racism/holocaust-denial/)!
Voila!

They've deceived everyone as this is their only skill.
When the truth be know, the juden shadow government will fall and the White people will be free again.
Hmmm, and I am sure the White people are being "enslaved" by the big bad mean JEW! White people enslaved my ass, remember slavery where the Africans were enslaved? And dont even try to tell me the holocaust never existed. Pitiful. You guys just run around with a blind hate, and that makes me sick.

Hmmm, and I am sure the White people are being "enslaved" by the big bad mean JEW! White people enslaved my ass, remember slavery where the Africans were enslaved? And dont even try to tell me the holocaust never existed. Pitiful. You guys just run around with a blind hate, and that makes me sick.
Enslavement of the mind is easy when the Jews control the entire media.

Slavery provided negro beasts with homes and jobs and all they did was wreck the country with disaster.

Enslavement of the White Gentiles has caused the nation to become a cesspit that will soon near third-world if black, brown, and yellow mongrels are allowed to continue to come in and reproduce like the roaches they are.

"That's pretty appaling. Imagine having a creed which says that you're better than anyone else, that you are a member of a special race. Awful."

Irony see yet?
Yet you support Jewish supremacy.
The Talmud supports the idea that Jews are "chosen" and the goyim are animals.

Tenete Traditiones, what course of action do you advocate for fighting against this conspiracy that you believe to be in power?

Tenete is being totally pwned by the evil Jews.

Go Jews.

Tenete Traditiones, what course of action do you advocate for fighting against this conspiracy that you believe to be in power?
Removal of the Jews from the media and total expulsion from every Western nation.
It's amazing the results when people just turn off their TalmudVisions.
Of course, if the Jews activate their Mohammedan and negro armies, then a White revolution may be neccessary though...

Removal of the Jews from the media and total expulsion from every Western nation.

And if they don't want to go?

And if they don't want to go?
War.

War.

So you advocate a bloody revolution in the United States of America then?

Removal of the Jews from the media and total expulsion from every Western nation.
It's amazing the results when people just turn off their TalmudVisions.
Of course, if the Jews activate their Mohammedan and negro armies, then a White revolution may be neccessary though...

I'm half Jewish, and he's right, we do control the world and everything that goes on in it. We drink oil and eat money, promote homosexuality, negroism, and definitly Degrassi.

And personally I'd recommend the new TalmudVision 2.0 you get excellent propaganda reception.

TT, how does a CEO have complete control over a company you rednecked trailor park Nazi? I forgot, what happened to the Nazis? Do they still have a nation? What about the Jews?

TT is now advocating violence, report him to the mods to get his stupid garbage banned

TT is now advocating violence, report him to the mods to get his stupid garbage banned

No I like it, it's funny.

War.

Translation: Gas Chambers

Translation: Gas Chambers

Quit trolling: that's not what he said.

So you advocate a bloody revolution in the United States of America then?
Well if we could maintain order and simply execute the Jews who refuse to leave, that would be preferable. But the Mohammedans and negroes would likely be called to war. The USA has already had its internal Jewish revolution so it is time to restore it to White Gentile control through whatever means necessary.
Bloodshed for that cause is much more noble than dying for Jewish interests in Iraq.

Translation: Gas Chambers


I don't think that's ever going to happen again.

Well if we could maintain order and simply execute the Jews who refuse to leave, that would be preferable. But the Mohammedans and negroes would likely be called to war. The USA has already had its internal Jewish revolution so it is time to restore it to White Gentile control through whatever means necessary.
Bloodshed for that cause is much more noble than dying for Jewish interests in Iraq.

THIS IS AWESOME, IT'S HILARIOUS. I literally haven't laughed this hard in awhile.

Quit trolling: that's not what he said.
that is what the moron meant

TT, how does a CEO have complete control over a company you rednecked trailor park Nazi? I forgot, what happened to the Nazis? Do they still have a nation? What about the Jews?
I am not a National Socialist nor do I live in a trailer park.
Ad hominem attacks are very common among Zionist warriors like yourself.

Well if we could maintain order and simply execute the Jews who refuse to leave, that would be preferable.

So you advocate the execution of anyone born to a Jewish mother if they refuse to leave the United States of America, yes? (Just to make sure I'm not misrepresenting you here.)

Explain to me what means would be used to persuade them to leave, other than the threat of execution?

that is what the moron meant
Foolish Jew.

Quit trolling: that's not what he said.

Well if we could maintain order and simply execute the Jews who refuse to leave, that would be preferable. But the Mohammedans and negroes would likely be called to war. The USA has already had its internal Jewish revolution so it is time to restore it to White Gentile control through whatever means necessary.
Bloodshed for that cause is much more noble than dying for Jewish interests in Iraq.

Sure as hell is what he said.

"Zionist Warriors"? LMAO....this guy is a laugh and a half.

"Zionist Warriors"? LMAO....this guy is a laugh and a half.
Thank you for yet another intelligent contribution to this thread. :rolleyes:

Foolish Jew.

Jew aren't foolish if they've managed to take control of the various organization you've mentioned.

Moron.

Yes, it is more intelligent than the crap you're spewing out. At least what I said is the TRUTH unlike what you've been saying thus far.

Tell me....i'd like to know when, how, where, and at what age you began thinking like this? Please tell me, i'd like to know.

Jew aren't foolish if they've managed to take control of the various organization you've mentioned.

Moron.
No they are definitely fools. Great at deception, backstabbing, and parasitizing, yes, but they are only doing what they are programmed to do in accordance with the Talmud.

theres no proof that it was 6 million jews because most of the bodies were burnt
there is no definate number the only estimates that could come even close was in the hundred thousands
it was an estimate

Oh i'd also like to mention that the Talmud was never original to the Jewish religion. Rabbis created it unlike the Torah which was handed down by God. Which is why I don't believe in Rabbinical Judaism.

God, why do you Nazis care? You understand that the amount of important people that arent Jewish in American society are way larger that the number that are? And even if a lot of Jewish people are in powerful positions, thats great! There is nothing wrong with that! Please, at least do no claim you Nazis are Christian, because you would be bastardizing the Christian religion by saying so.

WTF are you talking about?

You know the Nazis were not Christian. I hated the Nazis because of the Aaryan master race, I am an Anglo-Israelite - unlike the Jews I have a claim to the land of Israel. The current state that lies there is one built on lies, deceit, and deception. The only thing that the Jews really fear is the True Anglo-Israelites finding out whom their own acestory, because once that happens they will know who the Jews are not. A lie gone on for 4000 years will end, I can tell you that.

No they are definitely fools. Great at deception, backstabbing, and parasitizing, yes, but they are only doing what they are programmed to do in accordance with the Talmud.

You're a funny man, that's all I can say. You are just a funny man.

I'll ask this again, because I think it runs the risk of getting lost in the midst of everything going on here:

Tenete Traditiones, you advocate the execution of anyone born to a Jewish mother if they refuse to leave the United States of America, yes? (Just to make sure I'm not misrepresenting you here.)

Explain to me what means would be used to persuade them to leave, other than the threat of execution?

WTF are you talking about?

You know the Nazis were not Christian. I hated the Nazis because of the Aaryan master race, I am an Anglo-Israelite - unlike the Jews I have a claim to the land of Israel. The current state that lies there is one built on lies, deceit, and deception. The only thing that the Jews really fear is the True Anglo-Israelites finding out whom their own acestory, because once that happens they will know who the Jews are not. A lie gone on for 4000 years will end, I can tell you that.
Partially true. The Nazis started as Christian- Hitler was a deadset Christian till the end. Mein Kampf mentions God several times. After its inception, party because of Himmler, it gradually devolved into a mixture of what would be called "pagan" by Christian values and Christianity.]

I'll ask this again, because I think it runs the risk of getting lost in the midst of everything going on here:

Tenete Traditiones, you advocate the execution of anyone born to a Jewish mother if they refuse to leave the United States of America, yes? (Just to make sure I'm not misrepresenting you here.)

Explain to me what means would be used to persuade them to leave, other than the threat of execution?

I have seen these so called "Israelites" aka Cannites advocate killing of all American Christians. I have seen them want to rid the corrupt and fake state of "Israel" of all non Jews - be they Christian or Islam. I have seen them be proud of being in thug gangs whom attack Christians and the Churches. Never again will I ever support these fake people. ESAU you have been found out!

Partially true. The Nazis started as Christian- Hitler was a deadset Christian till the end. Mein Kampf mentions God several times. After its inception, party because of Himmler, it gradually devolved into a mixture of what would be called "pagan" by Christian values and Christianity.]

Hitler was more of a Cultist than anything else. The Swastika was a Cultist pagan sign. Not to mention the whole Aaryan race - anyone who knows of the Bible knows it was the Aaryans whom took the true Israelites captive and into Europe. When the Israelites became strong they created the Nations of Britain and many other European countries and their off shoots - America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand etc.

Hitler was more of a Cultist than anything else. The Swastika was a Cultist pagan sign. Not to mention the whole Aaryan race - anyone who knows of the Bible knows it was the Aaryans whom took the true Israelites captive and into Europe. When the Israelites became strong they created the Nations of Britain and many other European countries and their off shoots - America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand etc.

Oh, and where is this in the Bible?

The King of the North - the Persions came from Germany (around that area) believe it or not. And they are in fact the Aaryans, obviously they call themselves Persians.

Hitler was more of a Cultist than anything else. The Swastika was a Cultist pagan sign. Not to mention the whole Aaryan race - anyone who knows of the Bible knows it was the Aaryans whom took the true Israelites captive and into Europe. When the Israelites became strong they created the Nations of Britain and many other European countries and their off shoots - America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand etc.

The swastika shows up in many civilizations unrelated to eachother- the greeks and the chinese both have it in their art at some points. Are you seriously suggesting that the Greeks and the Chinese have the same cult in the ancient world where it'd take months to get back and forth?

And I have read the bible- the Israelites were only capured by the other semitic and middle eastern races (including the phillistines and the canannites, if I remember correctly). The bible doesn't even mention Europe, as far as I know, besides the NT.

Aryans aren't even Aryans in the Nazi sense. The actual Aryans are called the Persians. Hitler either made a mistake or didn't care that he was associating his master race with the Ancient Iranians.

Edit- Well, there are the Chaldeans, but they were partially Middle East based.

The King of the North - the Persions came from Germany (around that area) believe it or not. And they are in fact the Aaryans, obviously they call themselves Persians.

I asked for a citation, not an interpretation.

Are the Persians of... oh... Persia (now Iran) also Aaryans? Doesn't matter, because it was the Chaldeans who took the Israelites into captivity.

TY Doomduckistan... your history-fu is superior to mine ;)

So basically Hitler could not find enough history to uphold his idea of the mastery of his own loser race, so he stole the Aaryans' name... what a tool!

I have seen these so called "Israelites" aka Cannites advocate killing of all American Christians. I have seen them want to rid the corrupt and fake state of "Israel" of all non Jews - be they Christian or Islam. I have seen them be proud of being in thug gangs whom attack Christians and the Churches. Never again will I ever support these fake people. ESAU you have been found out!

As have I seen Christians who advocate the extermination of all Muslims, and Christians who advocate killing all of the people you call Israelites whom most call Jews. And both, at some points. Do you feel that because you have seen one group commit hate in isolated incidences that their entire way of life is wrong and ignore hate from any other corner? One might as well take a Neo-Nazi and use him as excuse for a call to destroy all Christians for their thug gangs who attack multiple peoples and churches.

This also reaks of a variant of No True Scotsman, also.

Actually Jews make up 17%. Combining the Houses at 535 is imbalanced.
11 Senators out of 100 is 11% alone.
26 Reps. out of 435 is 6% alone.
So that would make Jews 17% of Congress at 2% of the population.

I stand corrected by 3 percent. Now move on.

Geez, and I thought I sucked at math...

Lets say you have 100 oranges and 10 apples. 10 oranges (10% of total oranges) and 9 apples (90% of total apples) have spolied and gone bad.

Now, by your mathematical formula 10% + 90% = 100%. Therefore, 100% of the fruit is spolied. Huh? But wait, how about those 90 good oranges and 1 good apple we have - how can they exist if 100% of the fruit is spoiled? Either they are a figment of my imagniation, or your formula is completely erroneous...

P.S. Sorry if this has already been adressed, I missed that we were up to page 30 :p ;)

The King of the North - the Persions came from Germany (around that area) believe it or not. And they are in fact the Aaryans, obviously they call themselves Persians.

Very odd, my Bible seems to say that Israel was conquered by Shalmanesser, King of Assyria who resettled them into the land of the Medes, which I believe is in Iran. Judea was captured by Nebuchadnezzer from Babylon. The Persians didn't take Israel captive. They did take over Babylon and they also let the Jews return to Israel (under Cyrus). Where do you get that they went to Germany?

Edit: I think the Chaldeans and the Babylonians are the same.

No they didn't "die" they were systematically exterminated by Nazi SCUM

As have I seen Christians who advocate the extermination of all Muslims, and Christians who advocate killing all of the people you call Israelites whom most call Jews. And both, at some points. Do you feel that because you have seen one group commit hate in isolated incidences that their entire way of life is wrong and ignore hate from any other corner? One might as well take a Neo-Nazi and use him as excuse for a call to destroy all Christians for their thug gangs who attack multiple peoples and churches.

This also reaks of a variant of No True Scotsman, also.

The Jews are not...I repeat are NOT Israelites. Sure some Israelite blood may be in there, but that was because the Israelites went against YHWH and interbred with the Cannites. Never will a Jew be an Israelite, maybe if they for...wait sorry they don't for fill a damn thing. I am an Anglo-Israelite, my people have for filled many of the prophacies. And where did I say I hated the Jews?

Tenete Traditiones, I just have to ask

How old are you, and what part of the world are you from? What kind of school did you attend? Did you finish High School?

Geez, and I thought I sucked at math...

Lets say you have 100 oranges and 10 apples. 10 oranges (10% of total oranges) and 9 apples (90% of total apples) have spolied and gone bad.

Now, by your mathematical formula 10% + 90% = 100%. Therefore, 100% of the fruit is spolied. Huh? But wait, how about those 90 good oranges and 1 good apple we have - how can they exist if 100% of the fruit is spoiled? Either they are a figment of my imagniation, or your formula is completely erroneous...

P.S. Sorry if this has already been adressed, I missed that we were up to page 30 :p ;)

What do you expect? He was obviously home-schooled.

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Very odd, my Bible seems to say that Israel was conquered by Shalmanesser, King of Assyria who resettled them into the land of the Medes, which I believe is in Iran. Judea was captured by Nebuchadnezzer from Babylon. The Persians didn't take Israel captive. They did take over Babylon and they also let the Jews return to Israel (under Cyrus). Where do you get that they went to Germany?

Edit: I think the Chaldeans and the Babylonians are the same.

Yes the King of Assyria - who was a Persian, the Assyrians and the Persians are one and the same. The Assryains who moved into Iran became Persians. It is like 2 types of bread - both are the same but different. Sadly they let the Jews return to Israel - which was a mistake, the Jews didn't rule Israel, they never did. The first time a Jew controlled Israel was in 1948. The fact is that thousands of the True Anglo-Israelites - then called just Israelites were taken north over the Caustaus mountains, hence they picked up the term...wait for it...Caucasians. They were taken to the Area close to modern Germany and from there settled over Most of Europe. They never returned to Israel (Unless you count the Crusades)

Interesting. A little short on evidence, information, and logic, but interesting.

It never fails to amaze me that people still believe these things.
I am Jewish. Many of my friends are as well. None of them are as powerful or wealthy as you'd have it. I certainly am not. Sorry.


(I'm new here and I'm responding to the first post, I don't have time for thirty pages of them. Thirty very good pages, I'm sure, but also long.)

Enslavement of the White Gentiles has caused the nation to become a cesspit that will soon near third-world if black, brown, and yellow mongrels are allowed to continue to come in and reproduce like the roaches they are.

Ooh, an American making a mean old comment about mongrels. The wealth of benefits of genetic variance aside, you're American. American. You lost your ridiculous genetic purity playing card centuries ago.

Oh wait you're a neo-Nazi

Yeah guy the Jews are so evil I mean the way they take our upper level jobs because they're more competent at them what the Hell is up with that? God damn capitalism, always been keeping the white man down.

The Jews are not...I repeat are NOT Israelites. Sure some Israelite blood may be in there, but that was because the Israelites went against YHWH and interbred with the Cannites. Never will a Jew be an Israelite, maybe if they for...wait sorry they don't for fill a damn thing. I am an Anglo-Israelite, my people have for filled many of the prophacies. And where did I say I hated the Jews?

Read the Bible a little more, kid. One third of all the patriarchs had hamitic mothers, one an Egyptian and the other a Canaanite.

BTW what does "for fill" mean?

Find me anything in the Bible that backs up your conclusion that you are an Israelite, &/or that the Jew, however much intermarriage with Canaanites they did, are not?

Since Jesus is a descendent of David (read Matthew 1 and also prophecies), how did he come all the way down from Germany to be born in Bethlehem (Matt 2:5-6, also prophecies)?

BTW what does "for fill" mean?
I think he means fulfill.

theres no proof that it was 6 million jews because most of the bodies were burnt
there is no definate number the only estimates that could come even close was in the hundred thousands
it was an estimateYeah, there is no proof except 6 million people who couldn't be found after the war. :rolleyes: All the numbers thrown around are estimates because most documentation (when there was any) was destroyed. The 6 million estimate is excepted by almost everyone including historians of the period. Everyone I've ever heard claim a much lower number is either anti-semetic, a white supremist or a neo-nazi. Which one are you?

Read the Bible a little more, kid. One third of all the patriarchs had hamitic mothers, one an Egyptian and the other a Canaanite.

BTW what does "for fill" mean?

Find me anything in the Bible that backs up your conclusion that you are an Israelite, &/or that the Jew, however much intermarriage with Canaanites they did, are not?

Ok, I am not a "kid" and I can assure you, I have looked through the Bible very well.'

And that was a very bad typo. I just got home from Nightshift - sue me, I was tired. And frankly I couldn't care for it anyway.

Im going to bed soon, so I'll just post the prophacies, and I'll post the Bible verse later.

Ok lets look at it from a Prophasy POV - "They will be as the sands of the sea" - their numbers will be great - I think the Anglo-Israelites sum this up

They will hold the key to the gate of their enemies - last I checked it was the Anglo Race who kicked their enemies arse in...2 world wars. (Ironicly - they were fighting against a side who believed in the Master Aryan Race)

They will be a Great Nation (America) and a Company of Nations (British Commonwealth)

They will spread the word of YHWH over the world - last I checked most around 70%+ Missionaries are from these Nations - the Anglo Israelite Nations.


I could go on for ages, but I am tired and I need to get some sleep before work.

Yeah, there is no proof except 6 million people who couldn't be found after the war. :rolleyes: All the numbers thrown around are estimates because most documentation (when there was any) was destroyed. The 6 million estimate is excepted by almost everyone including historians of the period. Everyone I've ever heard claim a much lower number is either anti-semetic, a white supremist or a neo-nazi. Which one are you?


I know some people in the funeral business, they tell me there is no way in hell that creamatoriums can run "Night and day" as the witnesses claim. Also that amount of bodies would leave so much ash, it would be a mountain!


The Polish government lowered the number to about 3 million. What are they?

Since Jesus is a descendent of David (read Matthew 1 and also prophecies), how did he come all the way down from Germany to be born in Bethlehem (Matt 2:5-6, also prophecies)?

BTW what does "for fill" mean?

I think he means fulfill.

Sorry I forgot my [sarcasm] script commands. I was just trying to point out what a fucktard he is.

Yeah, there is no proof except 6 million people who couldn't be found after the war. :rolleyes: All the numbers thrown around are estimates because most documentation (when there was any) was destroyed. The 6 million estimate is excepted by almost everyone including historians of the period. Everyone I've ever heard claim a much lower number is either anti-semetic, a white supremist or a neo-nazi. Which one are you?

Be fair, not everyone who questions the whole 6 Million figure is anyone of those terms you used.

Be fair, not everyone who questions the whole 6 Million figure is anyone of those terms you used.Well if there is a doubter who fails to fall into one of those catagories I've yet to meet him.

I know some people in the funeral business, they tell me there is no way in hell that creamatoriums can run "Night and day" as the witnesses claim. Also that amount of bodies would leave so much ash, it would be a mountain!


The Polish government lowered the number to about 3 million. What are they? :rolleyes: And out they come. Yeah they'd make a mountain of ash. If they were all burned. If it was all done in one place. If....... Well you get the point. Buzz off DA, all the arguements have been presented before and blown full of holes. 6 million is still the number most widely accepted.

Ok, I am not a "kid" and I can assure you, I have looked through the Bible very well.'

Then you might wish to check out how it spells the word "prophesy"



"They will be as the sands of the sea" - refers to ALL of the children of Abraham; consider all Jews and all Arabs together and it certainly fits.

"They will hold the key to the gate of their enemies" - Israel is in the unique position of controlling passage between Asia and Africa, and the area of the two continents on either side of this gate are filled with people who hate Israel.

"They will be a Great Nation and a Company of Nations" - Israel and all nations that do not oppress the Jews.

"They will spread the word of YHWH over the world" - Jews have spread through every nation on Earth and brought their beliefs with them, whether listened to or not.



How about this one:

"I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you" - think of that while you're sleeping off your graveyard shift. Perhaps Germany lost because they hated the Jews? Perhaps America is "number one" because of all the Jews we elect? Perhaps you would have a better job if you stopped hating God's people.

Sorry I forgot my [sarcasm] script commands. I was just trying to point out what a fucktard he is.

Gee, how mature of you, sinking to such "adult" like Insults or are they what you call "Comebacks"?

Man I wish I was like you, oh wait I was...10 years ago.

Gee, how mature of you, sinking to such "adult" like Insults or are they what you call "Comebacks"?

Man I wish I was like you, oh wait I was...10 years ago.

Until you poor white dickweeds come up woith anything remotely close to being proof for any of the crap you spew, mocking you is the only way I can get any entertainment value out of you.

""They will be as the sands of the sea" - refers to ALL of the children of Abraham; consider all Jews and all Arabs together and it certainly fits."

Um, what the **** are you talking about. It says ISRAEL will be, as in - not Arabs, and not Jews. Israel was Jacob, who came from Isaac, who's brother was the ancestor for the Jews and Arabs.

""They will hold the key to the gate of their enemies" - Israel is in the unique position of controlling passage between Asia and Africa, and the area of the two continents on either side of this gate are filled with people who hate Israel."

So was the Allies in World War 1, and 2, oh wait they won...

""They will be a Great Nation and a Company of Nations" - Israel and all nations that do not oppress the Jews."

Makes no sense at all

""They will spread the word of YHWH over the world" - Jews have spread through every nation on Earth and brought their beliefs with them, whether listened to or not."

Gee so did the true Anglo-Israelites - wait they did it more

""I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you" - think of that while you're sleeping off your graveyard shift. Perhaps Germany lost because they hated the Jews? Perhaps America is "number one" because of all the Jews we elect? Perhaps you would have a better job if you stopped hating God's people. "

One I don't hate the Jews, and Second they are not Gods people, they wern't then and they are not now.

Apparently you have not read the Bible.

Genesis 22:17 - "I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore..."

Until you poor white dickweeds come up woith anything remotely close to being proof for any of the crap you spew, mocking you is the only way I can get any entertainment value out of you.

Seeing you use the term "White" - I think you are the only racist here, point out one post, just one where I used the term "White"...go on. You are a racist, hidden behind a shade, but your post just now sumed it up.

Apparently you have not read the Bible.

Genesis 22:17 - "I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore..."

Clearly you haven't...

"Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: - Romans 9:27

I'm going to bed

What the fuck is wrong with you people?
what the fuck is this the dark ages?????
give it a fucking rest please
racism is fucking pathetic
get a life for god sake

I swear speaking to you fucking retards is like :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

""They will be as the sands of the sea" - refers to ALL of the children of Abraham; consider all Jews and all Arabs together and it certainly fits."

Um, what the **** are you talking about. It says ISRAEL will be, as in - not Arabs, and not Jews. Israel was Jacob, who came from Isaac, who's brother was the ancestor for the Jews and Arabs.

See my last post. What the fuck are YOU talking about?

""They will hold the key to the gate of their enemies" - Israel is in the unique position of controlling passage between Asia and Africa, and the area of the two continents on either side of this gate are filled with people who hate Israel."

So was the Allies in World War 1, and 2, oh wait they won...

So was the allies what? So were the allies? They were what? In control of the Asia-Africa land passage? Filled with people who hate Israel/Jews? Certainly many people on both sides of the conflict had bought into your kind's deranged abomination of Christianity, but the allies were not the Jews' enemies.

""They will be a Great Nation and a Company of Nations" - Israel and all nations that do not oppress the Jews."

Makes no sense at all

Yeah, you would need a brain to understand it. Why should I bother? Tell you what: if anyone who is not a "New Member" neo-nazi 14-year-old in words &/or fact fucktard spam troll needs me to spell it out for them, I will.

""They will spread the word of YHWH over the world" - Jews have spread through every nation on Earth and brought their beliefs with them, whether listened to or not."

Gee so did the true Anglo-Israelites - wait they did it more

Really? Do they keep Pasach? To they keep kosher? Do they keep the true sabbath?

""I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you" - think of that while you're sleeping off your graveyard shift. Perhaps Germany lost because they hated the Jews? Perhaps America is "number one" because of all the Jews we elect? Perhaps you would have a better job if you stopped hating God's people. "

One I don't hate the Jews, and Second they are not Gods people, they wern't then and they are not now.

Again, I await the proof.

I hadn't really meant to start this from a prophecy POV, but since you put some up I'll reply:

Note: I took a while putting this up, so some others might have replied, bear with me :).

"They will be as the sands of the sea" - to Abraham where God was talking abou his descendents. Don't forget that Abraham had two sons, Issac and Ismael (who also had lots of descendents). Issac had two kids too, Jacob (where the Israelites came from) and Esau (I think he started the Edomites or something). So this isn't just about the Israelites.

"They will hold the key to the gate of their enemies" - I don't know where this is from, but aside from all the Old Testament, I hear Israel did a pretty impressive job against the Arabs. I've seen equipment and troop comparisons and the odds were definately stacked against Israel.

"They will be a Great Nation" - from Abraham again [Edit: Where's the "company of nations" part from?]. I don't think this means nation in the sense of "the biggest and strongest country around" but instead more along the people group with lots of people, like the Jews. Either way, Israel was a great nation in ancient times (see Solomon) and in modern times it also happens to be one of the more advanced countries in the world.

"They will spread the word of YHWH over the world" - The Ancient Israelites did this some (the other nations heard about God, especially after Israel repents and God saves them from their enemies), but then they kept worshipping other gods and kind of lost their focus. I think somewhere they're denounced (by Jesus, I think) for failing in that and going after other gods. But still that doesn't make them not Israelites. Besides, Paul and the Twelve diciples were all Jews and they went around the (known) world spreading the word.

I still want to know how Jesus came down from Germany to be born?

Clearly you haven't...

"Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: - Romans 9:27

NEWSFLASH:Paul of Tarsis was a Jew. According to you he was not an Israelite, since the true Israelites were brought up to the Caucuses where they became the progenitors of everything good about White people... did I get that right?

Paul was refering to Isaiah as quoting what God promised to Abraham in the verse I quoted. In that verse, it clearly states that the DESCENDENTS of Abraham would fulfill this prophecy. If you don't believe God at his word, why are you bothering to quote the Bible?

Isaiah was also refering to the coming captivity, and thus was refering to the Israelites of his own time as being of like the sands of the sea, but that after God's punishment there would only be a remnant left so that the work, God's promise that He would never permenently abandon them no matter how badly they transgressed, would be completed.

Now, Isaiah was refering to those very Israelites who were mixing with pagan cultures and pagan mates, and calling them "as the sands of the sea". According to your own citation, that part of the promise of God to Abraham was fulfilled back then, and now you say that all of the many millions of Whites in the world make up that remnant?

Judaism could not be any less Western. It was brought to the West by Eastern parasites and it promotes "chosen people" supremacy by the Jews above all else.

Huh. I even asked the Rabbi why we consider ouselves the "chosen people."

Obviously, idiot morons like you think we are chosen to be better than everyone else.

In fact, the Jews are chosen as targets of conquest, slavery, massacres, rape, and anything else people like you and their sick minds can think of.

Greeks and Romans are still around today also...

They arent conquering the world and discovering astronomy and physics anymore. Rome and Greece have fallen, they are now a normal city and country. Not a great, wonderous civilization.

“Our ways of life and those of the Jews are utterly different, and Jews will easily pervert the souls of simple folk to their superstition and unbelief if such folk are living in continual and intimate intercourse with them.”
~Pope Alexander III

Hmmm. Is that the same Pope Alexander III who initiated the use of force against heretics, legislation which led to the establishment of the Inquisition itself by Alexander's successor Gregory IX? Perhaps the same Alexander III who encouraged the continuation of the crusades against other Christians, against Muslims and Jews? If you actually take the time to read the bible that all this bloodshed and hatred uses as its justification, you'll find the same message as the Qu'ran and the Torah: treat people the way you'd want to be treated. It doesn't say to chop them all up into little pieces and burn them because they don't believe exactly what you do. Unless, of course, thats how you would want to be treated....

And can someone please explain to me how the Jews are apparently so dangerous? :confused: I'm a simple creature, and really don't understand how they seem to be such a threat to these hate-mongers. It seems that most of the blood thats been spilled throughout history has been Jewish, spilled by those Christians. What are they going to do to you?

I'm Jewish and I'll be honest. It isn't just Jewish blood and guts that are spilled throughout history, but I have to say it is A LOT more than Christian blood and guts. Even counting the Roman era.

ahahahahaha

aHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

I love Nazis so much :D Some of these claims are classic, I'm going to have to bookmark some pages. I'm not done reading but I'll be so happy if someone mentioned the Protocols of Zion.

They already did. Check towards page 5 or so.

Wrong...

Levis were a Tribe of the Israelites, but very to little Jews are Israelites. Some may have blood of the Israelites in them, but this was due to the Israelites interbreeding with the Cannites. A Levite is a Levite, simply that. Not a Jew, nor is a Jew a Levite.

According to who? What authority are you using for making these determinations?

The entire Jewish race is elite

Wrong, feel free to prove it.

and filled with Neo-Bolsheviks.

What the hell is a Neo-Bolshevik? And also, prove it.

The Jews never had a great civilization, only a pathetic little kingdom in Palestine rife with corruption and deceit.

Corruption and deceit, eh? Do you know ANYTHING about Roman history?

They have survived rather easily in their host nations for millenia, thriving off of decent Gentiles.

Oh yeah, they were really thriving when they were living as second and third-class citizens in the Muslim and Christian world.

They still don't have an empire.

Wait, how can they control the world and not have an empire? :rolleyes:

They lack the moral fiber for one to survive.

Bullshit. I don't recall any Empire possessing much "moral fiber". British? Nope. Americans? Nope.

From what I've read, most "empires" can only remain empires by sacrificing their moral fiber in order to keep their vassal nations under control.

Why don't you make yourself really white and jump in a pool of bleach? Be sure to swallow a lot, so your insides can be all white too.

Yeah, then he can be a real Aryan, just like Michael Jackson.

Enslavement of the mind is easy when the Jews control the entire media.

So why don't you dipshits turn off your TVs and stop reading the papers? Stay isolated in your shacks and bunkers. It's no loss to the rest of us.

Slavery provided negro beasts with homes and jobs and all they did was wreck the country with disaster.

Yeah, those inconsiderate jerks. :rolleyes:

Yet you support Jewish supremacy.
The Talmud supports the idea that Jews are "chosen" and the goyim are animals.

Liar.

Well if we could maintain order and simply execute the Jews who refuse to leave, that would be preferable. But the Mohammedans and negroes would likely be called to war.

Well I'll be damned if I'm going to let fuckwads like you kick me out of my own country without a fight.

So you advocate the execution of anyone born to a Jewish mother if they refuse to leave the United States of America, yes?

Hang on, is it just born to a Jewish mother, or a Jewish father, too? What about Jews whose ancestors converted? Do they get exempted? After all, TT is the genius who said that you can't "become" a Jew.

What about Gentiles who convert to Judaism after your take-over? You'll leave them alone, right? After all, they're not real Jews.

No they are definitely fools. Great at deception, backstabbing, and parasitizing, yes, but they are only doing what they are programmed to do in accordance with the Talmud.

I wouldn't characterize someone who is "great" at deception and who apparently has managed to control the entire Western Media as "fools". It sounds like they're certainly kicking YOUR ass currently.

I know some people in the funeral business, they tell me there is no way in hell that creamatoriums can run "Night and day" as the witnesses claim.

You are misrepresenting the claims. See Nizkor.

http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-07.html

In essence, well-nourished corpses were burned with emaciated ones in order to determine the most efficient combination. Three to four bodies were burned at a time, and different kinds of coke were used, then the results were recorded:

Afterwards, all corpses were divided into the above-mentioned catagories, the criterion being the amount of coke required to reduce them to ashes. Thus it was decreed that the most economical and fuel-saving procedure would be to burn the bodies of a well-nourished man and an emaciated woman, or vice versa, together with that of a child, because, as the experiments had established, in this combination, once they had caught fire, the dead would continue to burn without any further coke being required. ( Müller, 60-61; Klarsfield, 99-100)

The need for large-scale efficiency, to cope with the astounding number of corpses produced by the gas chambers, eventually led to the design and construction of new crematoria, and daily capacity rose from as low as six hundred forty eight per day ( Müller's 1942 figure) to a high of over ten thousand ( Höss, Gricksch), but, as Feig tells us, the SS eventually had to employ large pyres and pits to dispose of the mounting pile of corpses:

As early as June 13, 1943, all was not well with the new installation. ... Eventually the ovens seemed to fall apart. Crematorium Four failed completely after a short time and Crematoria Five had to be shut down repeatedly. (TWC, V:624) (Between 1945 and 1962 Polish officials found five manuscripts written by Sonderkommando members before their deaths. The published manuscripts and documents relate to the specific process of extermination at Birkenau, and provide detailed descriptions of the crematoria and gas chambers.)

The scientifically planned crematoria should have been able to handle the total project, but they could not. The whole complex had forty-six retorts, each with the capacity for three to five persons. The burning in a retort lasted about half an hour. It took an hour a day to clean them out. Thus it was theoretically possible to cremate about 12,000 corpses in twenty four hours or 4,380,000 a year.

But the well-constructed crematoria fell far behind at a number of camps, and especially at Auschwitz in 1944. In August the total cremation reached a peak one day of 24,000, but still a bottleneck occurred. Camp authorities needed an economic and fast method of corpse disposal, so they again dug six huge pits beside Crematorium Five and reopened old pits in the wood.

Thus, late in 1944, pit burning became the chief method of corpse disposal. The pits had indentations at one end from which human fat drained off. To keep the pits burning, the stokers poured oil, alcohol, and large quantities of boiling human fat over the bodies.

Whether or not a crematorium is capable running "night and day" is irrelevant, since, as mentioned in the above quote, the primary method of corpse disposal was bit burning, not crematorium-burning.

Furthermore, this source http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/ notes that the facilities VARIED between camps.

Contrary to Legace and Leuchter, it is known that the Topf ovens could work on a continuous daily basis. This information comes directly from notes kept by prisoners who worked at the crematorium on the daily operation of the Topf double muffle furnace in Gusen from October 31 to November 12, 1941. The notes show that an average daily incineration of 26 per muffle over a 13 day period. [128] [n]However, the Gusen ovens did not always work around the clock. Therefore, the records show that on most days they only operated part time[/b]. [129] Topf's instructions for these muffles from July 1941 state:

In the coke-heated T double muffle incinerator, 10 to 35 bodies can be incinerated in about 10 hours. The quantity mentioned above can be incinerated daily without any problem, without overworking the oven. It is not harmful to operate the incinerator day and night if, required, since the fireclay [resistant walls] lasts longer when an even temperature is maintained. [130]

These comments also apply to the three double muffle furnaces in Krema I of Auschwitz which were of the same construction. Similar instructions were issued by Topf for the Auschwitz ovens in September 1941. These instructions state that "[o]nce the cremation chamber [muffle] has been brought to a good red heat [approximately 800°] the corpses can be introduced one after the other in the cremation chambers." The instructions also state that at the end of the operation the air valves and doors and dampers must be closed "so that the furnace does not cool." [131] These instructions directly contradict Legace's assertion that the ovens needed to be cooled. [132]

It is interesting to note that the instructions for both the Gusen and Auschwitz ovens suggest that continued use at an even temperature will actually prolong the useful life of the ovens. On the same day that the Gusen instructions were issued, two Topf engineers stated that the Topf double muffle furnace could incinerate 60 to 72 bodies [30 to 36 per muffle] in a 20 hour period with three hours of maintenance required. [133]

Kurt Prüfer, the Topf engineer who built the 46 Birkenau ovens, stated in a letter on November 15, 1942 that the ovens he installed in the Buchenwald concentration camp had a one third greater output than had previously been thought. [134] Unfortunately, he does not say what number the one third is greater than. However, on the same day he informed the Bauleitung that five triple-muffle furnaces, 15 ovens, could incinerate 800 corpses in 24 hours. [135] This means that a muffle could burn about 53 bodies in a 24 hour period. Reducing the time by four hours means that 44 bodies per muffle could be burned in a 20 hour period

As has been mentioned twice before in this study, the best information we have on the output of these ovens is the period from October 31 to November 12, 1941 in Gusen, after they had been overhauled. While the 677 bodies burned during these 13 days average 26 per muffle, an analysis of the underlying data reveals that a Topf oven could burn far in excess of this amount. On November 7, 1941 these two muffles incinerated 94 bodies in a period of 19 hours and 45 minutes, or 47 per muffle. This means that each oven could incinerate a body in 25.2 minutes. This was probably achieved by adding a new body to the oven before the prior body had been totally incinerated, a method which appears to have been envisaged by the Topf instructions discussed earlier. (See the discussion at footnote 108.) This method should not be confused with multiple body burnings to be discussed in the next part of this study. This 25 minute figure is not far from the Prüfer estimate cited in the prior paragraph. Mattogno totally ignored this information. Rather, he focused on the November 8 information which shows 72 bodies burned. He erroneously claimed that it took 24 1/2 hours to burn these bodies. He had misread the time sheets. The actual burning time for these bodies was between 16 and 17 hours. [136]

IAlso that amount of bodies would leave so much ash, it would be a mountain!

Wrong. See Nizkor.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/qar47.html

47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what happened to the ashes?

The IHR says:

That remains to be "explained." Six million bodies would produce literally tons upon tons of ashes. Yet there is no evidence of any large depositories of such ash.

Nizkor replies:

Slight dishonesty. Nobody claims that six million bodies were incinerated. Behind the Eastern front, people were simply shot and buried in mass graves.

Many millions of bodies, however, were incinerated (including some that were buried in mass graves and had to be exhumed). It is quite easy to get rid of ash. It was dumped in fields and in rivers. Ash is not toxic; it can be dumped anywhere. In fact, it makes good fertilizer, and it is well-documented that farmers around Auschwitz used human ash in their fields.

Just compute how many shoeboxes fit into a large truck. Tens of thousands. What's the problem with dumping truckload after truckload into rivers or fields? Auschwitz is built at a junction of rivers, with a large marsh nearby. In fact, one aerial photograph taken during the war shows large quantities of what may be human ash in a marsh just outside the extermination camp facility.

For comparison, consider that nobody denies that Stalin and Mao killed tens of millions of people by various means. No "revisionists" are asking where the piles of those bodies are. They focus only on the Nazi Holocaust. Why is this?

The Polish government lowered the number to about 3 million. What are they?

Cite your source, and give a date for when they did this.

Clearly you haven't...

"Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: - Romans 9:27

Wow, and since we all know passages from the New Testament are REALLY relevant to Jews. :rolleyes:

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Liar.





Like you ask yourself, proove that he is on that point of the Talmud.

Like you ask yourself, proove that he is on that point of the Talmud.

I already have, repeatedly, in this thread and elsewhere. I wonder, why do you ask me to refute him AGAIN, but don't ask him to prove his initial statement?

In any event, since he hasn't "cited" an actual part of the Talmud, it's impossible for me to disprove it at this juncture. The Talmud is over 2,000 pages long- not that he's ever read a page.

I'm almost positive of the false quote he's going to use, but I'll wait until he actually makes the effort to cite it.

Cite your source, and give a date for when they did this.




I know what he is talking about...


http://www.heretical.org/miscella//butz1.html

I know what he is talking about...

http://www.heretical.org/miscella//butz1.html

What the hell are you talking about? That page "refutes" Talmudic literary exageration in describing the killing of Jews in 115-117 CE and 132-135 CE.

Furthermore, it is debunked here: http://groups.msn.com/Mishpocha/thetalmudpart4.msnw

This has no relevance to what DA wrote, which was about the European Holocaust which took place from 1939- 1945:

The Polish government lowered the number to about 3 million. What are they?

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

I hate debating with racists. some people may call that an assumption, but the thread starter has been assuming things sinc ethe start. alright, this has already been pointed out, but man, your math skills need some serious work.

11% of one thing and 6% of another thing to not equal 17%. Heres an example from retail:

You go to a local clothing store, you find a wonderful patriotic shirt that you like. It is normally $10 but it is on sale for 50% off. you think "Great! I have a coupon for 15so I can get this for only 35%... thats $3.50!) So you go to the register and the casheir rings up your order, telling her how you cant believe that it is 65% off.
10
-50% ($5)
=
5
-15% ($.75)
=
4.25 (ie NOT $3.50) Your actual savings are somewhere around 57% off. How does this work? because the first percentage was off of a much larger number. you keep on insisting that you cannot combine the two because they are totally different vote weights, and yet you are combining them using illogical math.

You are so scared about people of a certian heritage are possising so much of the government. But what about (using your "fuzzy math") the other 83%? Lets take a look shall we?

People of "white" heritage in the US: 75.1%
People of "black" heritage in US: 12.3%
People of "hispanic" Heritage in US: 12.5%

Source for census info: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Now, are you telling me that there are 12 black senators and 13 hispanic senator in congress? No, to my knowledge there is only one black senator in congress. I do not know the exact number of hispanic senators, but I am positive that it is not 12. If we should have a "racially representative" congress, should these other cultures not be recognized.

you see, that is the problem with your argument. our congress is elected by the people, and we have elected those who now hold office. there is no racial "affermative action" that determines who represents us.

Hey, I can tell you why Jew3s are so successful., you might not want to tell your other racist buddies though becuase it would confuse them into another drunked stupor. you see, the Jews (and many other people) have this thing called work ethic, and they take it pretty strongly. they also are very frugal and do not waste what money they earn. You see, here in america there is this thing that if you are good at doing something, you tend to suceed.

Stop trying to find someone to blame for why you are not some rich bigot. Work hard at what you do, dont waste all of your money, choose your descisions carefully. you would be surprised how much futher that will take you. Much further than ignorant, unfounded hate.

Edit: it is 15% I typed this without proofreading, sorry.

Tiligh -

Is the coupon 15% off or 25% off?

Looking through the list of Jesus' lineage proves one thing: the story of the immaculate conception is very funny.

Best holy text ever. Go go captain consistency!

With such a large number of Jews and such a small number of Arabs involved in the U.S. government and American media, one has to wonder whether there is ever a chance of getting a FAIR peace deal in the middle east. I wonder what American foreign policy regarding the middle east would look like if the numbers were reversed?

Jewish is not a race, it is a religion (judeaism), Duh!

Oh yeah, they were really thriving when they were living as second and third-class citizens in the Muslim and Christian world.
Actually I think quite a few were very successful in banking and other business (look at Shylock in The Merchant of Venice). They had the rights of dirt, but still some were fairly successful.

Jewish is not a race, it is a religion (judeaism), Duh!
It's also a race.

With such a large number of Jews and such a small number of Arabs involved in the U.S. government and American media, one has to wonder whether there is ever a chance of getting a FAIR peace deal in the middle east. I wonder what American foreign policy regarding the middle east would look like if the numbers were reversed?
Peace is impossible when the USA is forced to support Israel.

How the hell is Judaism a race? Because it gets passed down through the generations? In that case, Christianity is a race.

TT, why do you even care? We will ultamately DIE in the end, so its no big deal that we control the media FOR NOW. ;)

Enlighten (http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761567959/Jews.html) yourself :).

Enlighten (http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761567959/Jews.html) yourself :).

Nowhere in your link does the word "race" come up.

With such a large number of Jews and such a small number of Arabs involved in the U.S. government and American media, one has to wonder whether there is ever a chance of getting a FAIR peace deal in the middle east.

Well first, I think that shows a misunderstanding and oversimplification as far as recognizing that American Jews are not a monolith, but a spectrum, on ALL issues. Chances are that none or very few US Jews in government or media are actually ANTI-Zionist, but simply being a Zionist does not make one a right-wing Zionist. There are many different shades of Zionism, and there are many Jews, American and otherwise, who support a two-state solution. (If you want to pursue this further, you might want to clarify what you mean by a "fair" deal.)

The other thing you need to be aware of is that it's not that Jews dominate these fields and Arabs are somehow "shut out". It's also function of population. According to http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/census_2000/001576.html, in 2000 there were only 1.2 million Arabs in the US, as opposed to around 6 million Jews. The more American Arabs there are, the more likely more of them will start getting into positions of power in the media and government.

Actually I think quite a few were very successful in banking and other business (look at Shylock in The Merchant of Venice). They had the rights of dirt, but still some were fairly successful.

No, it's correct to say a few did very well, but that's not the same thing as implying that Jews, as a group, THRIVED, and it's certainly dishonest to imply, as TT did, that they did it at the expense of "decent Gentiles". In the Christian world, Jews were PROPERTY of the King or local magnate! You tell me who's profiting off of whom?

Jews were forced into the social positions they held, and any "exploitation" of the lower-class by them (a very subjective thing to begin with) was simply a result of what THEY were being forced to do by the upper-classes. Since Jews, particularly in Europe, were basically go-betweens between the upper-classes and their serfs, it's absurd to criticize Jews for "thriving off of Gentiles" without also holding the SUPERIORS responsible, since they were the ones that made the rules and controlled the environment, and FORCED the Jews to fulfill their wishes, on pain of death or expulsion.

So, I'm not saying no Jews were successful, but analyzing the history, particularly as far as the economical relation between Jews and Gentiles, requires an understanding of much more nuance and complexity than ANY of these bozos will allow. This is not surprising, as it would conflict with their main ethos, which is that Jews are responsible for all the world's ills.

Maybe race was the wrong word, try people group or something. Either way, the Jews are the people who believe they are desended from Abraham through Issac and Jacob. They lived where modern Israel is today (map (http://encarta.msn.com/media_461532971/Kingdoms_of_Judah_and_Israel.html)) and followed the religion called Judaism. Their descendents are the Jews of today. There are also people who have converted to Judaism who are also Jews. If you have a Jewish mother or have converted to Judaism you are considered a Jew. There are also non-religious Jews, which simply means that they are Jewish by family, but not religion.

Clear as mud :)?.


Edit: The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs defines (http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts%20About%20Israel/State/Acquisition%20of%20Israeli%20Nationality) "Jew" under the Law of Return as
For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother, or has converted to Judaism and is not a member of another religion.

No, it's correct to say a few did very well, but that's not the same thing as implying that Jews, as a group, THRIVED, and it's certainly dishonest to imply, as TT did, that they did it at the expense of "decent Gentiles".
I didn't mean to imply that they were exploiting Gentiles, or anyone for that matter, at all. I just remember reading that Jewish success in banking may have contributed to anti-Semitism in the Middle Ages.

All those Jewish Democrats... and still the Republican party backs Israel to the wall as well....even when run by an oilman with long-standing ties to the Muslin world

In other words, your point seems.... pointless.
There is a differance in the mentality between American Jews and Israelis.

Jewish Ritual Murder in England Before the Edict of Expulsion of 1290

Arnold S. Leese



The first known case occurred in 1144; after that, cases cropped up from time to time until the Jews were expelled from the realm by Edward I. The most famous of these incidents was that of Little St. Hugh of Lincoln in 1255. I record these cases in chronological order; and I do not deny the possibility that some of them, in which details are lacking, were "trumped up" ones, where death may have been due to causes other than ritual murder and the Jews blamed for it; but the case of St. Hugh, particularly, was juridically decided, and the Close and Patent Rolls of the Realm record definitely cases at London, Winchester and Oxford. There seems no reason to doubt that many cases of ritual murder have been unsuspected and even undiscovered.

1144, Norwich. A twelve year-old boy was crucified and his side pierced at the Jewish Passover. His body was found in a sack hidden in a tree. A converted Jew, called Theobald of Cambridge, confessed that the Jews took blood every year from a Christian child because they thought that only by so doing could they ever obtain their freedom and return to Palestine; and that it was their custom to draw lots to decide whence the blood was to be supplied; Theobald said that last year the lot fell to Narbonne, but in this year to Norwich. The boy was locally beatified and has ever since been known as St. William. The Sheriff, probably bribed, refused to bring the Jews to trial.

In J. C. Cox's Norfolk Churches, vol. II, p. 47, as also in the Victoria County History of Norfolk, 1906, vol.. II, is an illustration of an old painted rood-screen depicting the ritual murder of St. William; the screen itself is in Loddon Church, Norfolk, unless the power of Jewish money has had it removed. No-one denies this case as a historical event, but the Jews of course say it was not a ritual murder. The Jew, C. Roth, in his The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew (1935) says: "Modern enquirers, after careful examination of the facts, have concluded that the child probably lost consciousness in consequence of a cataleptic fit, and was buried prematurely by his relatives." How these modern enquirers arrived at a conclusion like that after all these years, Mr. Roth does not say; nor is it a compliment to the Church to suggest that its ministers would allow the boy's death to be celebrated as the martyrdom of a saint without having satisfied themselves that wounds on the body confirmed the crucifixion and piercing of the side. And why the relatives should bury the boy in a sack and then dig it up and hang it in a tree would puzzle even a Jew to explain.

John Foxe's Acts and Monuments of the Church records this ritual murder, as did the Ballandists and other historians. The Prior, William Turbe, who afterwards became Bishop of Norwich, was the leading light in insisting that the crime was one of Jewish ritual murder; in the Dictionary of National Biography (edited by a Jew!) it is made clear that his career, quite apart from this ritual murder case, is that of a man of great strength of character and moral courage.

1160, Gloucester. The body of a child named Harold was found in the river with the usual wounds of crucifixion. Sometimes wrongly dated 1168. (Recorded in Monumenta Germania Historica, vol. VI (Erfurt Annals); Polychronicon, R. Higdon; Chronicles, R. Grafton, p. 46.)

1181, Bury St. Edmunds. A child called Robert was sacrificed at Passover. The child was buried in the church and its presence there was supposed to cause miracles. (Authority: Rohrbacher, from the Chronicle of Gervase of Canterbury.)

1192, Winchester. A boy crucified. Mentioned in the Jewish Encyclopaedia as being a false charge. Details lacking.

1232, Winchester. Boy crucified. Details lacking. (Mentioned in Hyamson's History of the Jews in England; also in Annals of Winchester; and conclusively in the Close Roll 16, Henry III, m.8, 26.6.1232.)

1235, Norwich. In this case, Jews stole a child and hid him with a view to crucifying him. Haydn's Dictionary of Dates of date 1847, says of this case, "They [the Jews] circumcise and attempt to crucify a child at Norwich; the offenders are condemned in a fine of 20,000 marks." (Further authority Huillard Breolles, Grande Chronique, III, 86; also Close Roll, 19 Henry III, m.23.)

1244, London. A child's body found unburied in the cemetery of St. Benedict, with ritual cuts. Buried with great pomp in St. Paul's. (Authority: Social England, vol. I, p. 407, edited by H. D. Traill.)

1255, Lincoln. A boy called Hugh was kidnapped by the Jews and crucified and tortured in hatred of Jesus Christ. The boy's mother found the body in a well on the premises of a Jew called Jopin or Copinus. This Jew, promised by the judge his life if he confessed, did so, and 91 Jews were arrested; eventually 18 were hanged for the crime. King Henry III himself personally ordered the juridical investigation of the case five weeks after the discovery of the body, and refused to allow mercy to be shown to the Jew Copinus, who was executed.

Hugh was locally beatified, and his tomb may still be seen in Lincoln Cathedral, but the Jewish Money Power has evidently been at work, for between 1910 and 1930 a notice was fixed above the shrine as follows: "The body of Hugh was given burial in the Cathedral and treated as that of a martyr. When the Minster was repaved, the skeleton of a small child was found beneath the present tombstone. There are many incidents in the story which tend to throw doubt upon it, and the existence of similar stories in England and elsewhere points to their origin in the fanatical hatred of the Jews of the Middle Ages and the common superstition, now wholly discredited, that ritual murder was a factor of Jewish Paschal Rites. Attempts were made as early as the 13th century by the Church to protect the Jews against the hatred of the populace and against this particular accusation."

At a visit to Lincoln of the Jewish Historical Society, in 1934, the Mayor, Mr. G. Deer, said to them: "That he [St. Hugh] was done to death by Jews for ritual purposes cannot be other than a libel based upon the prejudices and ignorance of an unenlightened age." The Chancellor on the same occasion said: "It was quite obviously one of the very many cases of slander spread about the Jews from time to time. No doubt, the child died or fell down the well."

These people, Jews and Gentiles, bring no evidence whatever for their statement; it couldn't have happened, they say. Why not?

Was Henry III, weak in character as we know him to have been, ever charged with being an immoral man? Did the judges not examine the body, which was only four weeks dead? Is Haydn's Dictionary of Dates (1847 edition) medieval and superstitious when it said of this case "They [the Jews] crucify a child at Lincoln, for which eighteen are hanged"? There are no 'ifs' and 'buts' here! Or does Copinus's confession not tally with that of Theobald, quoted above in the first Norwich case? Copinus said, "For the death of this child, nearly all the Jews in England had come together and every town had sent deputies to assist in the sacrifice."

No-one questions the historical facts in this case; but Jews and Judaized Gentiles alike unite in denying the fact of ritual murder.

Strack, in his The Jew and Human Sacrifice, written in defence of the Jews against the Blood Accusation, omits all mention of this famous case, which is the subject of the Prioress's Tale in Chaucer's Canterbury Tales and is referred to in Marlowe's Jew of Malta. Hyamson's History of the Jews in England devotes the whole of Chapter IX to "Little St. Hugh of Lincoln," showing the importance of the ritual murder issue in the Jewish mind today. (The following Close Rolls of the Realm refer to the case of St. Hugh: Henry III, 39, m.2, 7.10.1255; 39, m.2, 14.10.1255; 40, m.20, 24.11.1255; 40, m.13, 13.3.1256; 42, m.6, 19.6.1258. And the Patent Rolls, Henry III, 40, m.20, 26.11.1255; 40, m.19, 9.12.1255; 40, 27.3.1256; and 40, m.5, 20.8.1256.)

1257, London. A child sacrificed. (Authority: Cluverius, Epitome Historiae p. 541.) Details lacking.

1276, London. Boy crucified. (Authority: The Close Roll of the Realm, 4, Edward I, m.14, 3.3.1276.)

1279, Northampton. A child crucified. Haydn's Dictionary of Dates, 1847, says of this case: "They [the Jews] crucify a child at Northampton for which fifty are drawn at horses' tails and hanged." (Further authorities: Reiley, Memorials of London, p. 15; H. Desportes, Le Mystére du Sang.)

1290, Oxford. The Patent Roll 18 Edward I, m.21, 21st June 1290, contains an order for the gaol delivery of a Jew, Isaac de Pulet, detained for the murder of a Christian boy at Oxford.

Only one month after this, King Edward issued his decree expelling the Jews from the Kingdom. There is, then, every reason to believe that it was the Oxford murder which proved the last straw in toleration.

A similar ritual case was one of the main stimulants to the King and Queen of Spain to expel professing Jews from that country in 1492 (Leese: Jewish Ritual Murder, p. 20).

The Jews, in attempting to escape responsibility for these deaths by ritual murder, do not hesitate to impugn the probity of two of the Kings of England, against whose moral character no-one else has dared to cast a slur. Here are some examples. Firstly the Jew Hyamson (in History of the Jews in England, 1928 edition, p. 21) wrote: "It has also been pointed out that the Blood Accusation was as a rule made at a time at which the Royal Treasury needed replenishing." This foul accusation against men of upright character was repeated in the Jewish Chronicle Supplement, April 1936, p. 8 (speaking of the Lincoln case in the reign of Henry III): "Henceforth and especially under the zealously Christian Edward I, the Crown and its officers became almost a worse peril to the Jews than mobs intent on loot and led on by fanatic priests and knightly spendthrifts who had borrowed Jewish money. When 18th century writers of history began to examine the old records in a new sceptical temper some may be found venturing on such unkind surmises as that the alleged crucifixions of Christian children only seemed to happen when kings were short of money."

To deny that the cases of St. William of Norwich and St. Hugh of Lincoln were Jewish ritual murders is to accuse certain English Kings, certain English Clergy, and certain English administrators, known to be men of good morals, of murdering and torturing Jews to get their money, after accusing them of horrible crimes. In the case of St. Hugh, the sentence was juridical; in the case of St. William, the mob took the matter into their own hands because the Sheriff would take no action himself.

Whom do you believe - the Jews or the English?

"It is difficult to refuse all credit to stories so circumstantial and so frequent." So says Social England concerning ritual murders in England (vol. I, p. 407, 1893, edited by H. D. Traill).

A significant fact is that Haydn's Dictionary of Dates, at least up to 1847, quoted the ritual murders in Norman and Plantagenet England as undisputed facts. In later editions in the sixties, all mention of them is extirpated! We may take it that the Jewish Money Power began to dictate to the Press in England somewhere in the fifties of the last century.

I find it quite disturbing for our civilization and species that 20+% of the people polled in this survey would even begin to consider this hackneyed conspiratorial nonsense as worthy of debate. I would suggest many of you should attend an accredited university and move out of your parents' basement. To those who consider themselves as anti-semites and who believe the death tolls of the holocaust to be fictional, I would suggest harsher measures: removal of your genitalia with a rusty spike. Then, join a religion dedicated to ritual coprophagia. Then, you may die.