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US abuse of chickens - Page 2

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Generic empire
11-08-2004, 01:16
No matter how badly they abuse the birds, i'm still going to keep eating chicken, because it is delicious, and I am sure that the rest of the world will do the same.
Bodies Without Organs
11-08-2004, 01:20
No matter how badly they abuse the birds, i'm still going to keep eating chicken, because it is delicious, and I am sure that the rest of the world will do the same.

Given the choice between eating an abused bird and an unabused bird, all other things (price, taste, nutritional value, u.s.w) being equal, which one would you chose?
Freakin Sweet
11-08-2004, 01:21
how can we tell the difference in taste?? maybe abused tastes better.
Bodies Without Organs
11-08-2004, 01:23
how can we tell the difference in taste?? maybe abused tastes better.

Possibly it does, possibly it doesn't. I'm just seeing what people's opinions are: imagine they tasted the same.
Generic empire
11-08-2004, 01:24
Given the choice between eating an abused bird and an unabused bird, all other things (price, taste, nutritional value, u.s.w) being equal, which one would you chose?

How would I know which was which? This seems like an erroneous question.
Bodies Without Organs
11-08-2004, 01:24
How would I know which was which? This seems like an erroneous question.

The labels on the boxes, perhaps? Maybe you are staying at a farmhouse and saw one chicken being killed and prepared and another beaten to within an inch of its life, then killed and prepared? Use your imagination.
Generic empire
11-08-2004, 01:25
Possibly it does, possibly it doesn't. I'm just seeing what people's opinions are: imagine they tasted the same.

I'll tell you what. I would eat 'em both.
Sumamba Buwhan
11-08-2004, 01:29
i guess there isnt that much good stuff to eat when you're a vegan eh


actually there are tons of good things to eat being a vegan/vegetarian. having been a cook before, I have prepared many a meal for my meat-eating friends. Several have told me that they could go vegetarian if they could eat like that all teh time. There are meat substitutes that you can't really tell if its meat or not it's so delicious. I have this fake crab that is made from soy tht is to die for. I make some of the best crab enchiladas this side of the universe :p

other fake meats which I have stocked up are shrimp, ground beef, bbq ribs, hamburgers, hotdogs, different kinds of pork, chicken and beef.
Nehek-Nehek
11-08-2004, 01:40
like i said, swiss cheese logic

you start out ok
leading cause of death > heart problems > leading cause of heart problems > american diet

and then you screw up

you blame a bad american diet on eating meat


its not what is consumed, its the amount that it is consumed, without the excercise to back it up and work it off.

if you eat the correct proportions of meat and excercise you will be fine

now on the other hand, if your avegetarian or vegan you get whiny and forego all meat by swiss cheese logic.
the very proof that this is wrong is that these people have to take vitamin tablets to get just necesary vitamins and proteins and the like

Bullshit. I've never taken vitamins in my life, and I haven't eaten meat in 14 months. And actually, it isn't just how much, it is what.
Antebellum South
11-08-2004, 01:42
The labels on the boxes, perhaps? Maybe you are staying at a farmhouse and saw one chicken being killed and prepared and another beaten to within an inch of its life, then killed and prepared? Use your imagination.
Um the coops are crowded maybe but farmers don't be a chicken to within an inch of its life, unless they are perverted weirdos.
Bodies Without Organs
11-08-2004, 01:46
Um the coops are crowded maybe but farmers don't beat a chicken to within an inch of its life, unless they are perverted weirdos.

I never said they did, or that they were. I didn't even say that it was a farmer that beat the chicken - it could have been anyone. I was merely asking a purely hypothetical question and was asked to expand on the background.
Antebellum South
11-08-2004, 01:51
I never said they did, or that they were. I didn't even say that it was a farmer that beat the chicken - it could have been anyone. I was merely asking a purely hypothetical question and was asked to expand on the background.
Well in that case I wouldnt care because the meat tastes the same.
East Coast Federation
11-08-2004, 16:51
The labels on the boxes, perhaps? Maybe you are staying at a farmhouse and saw one chicken being killed and prepared and another beaten to within an inch of its life, then killed and prepared? Use your imagination.
PreHaps the abused chicken would taste better ;)
Sumamba Buwhan
11-08-2004, 16:56
Ever hear about how they beat a live monkey on the head with a stick and then after it gets really pissed or whatever they eat the brain? I think its because it releases certain hormones that get them high or something. Not sure. I could be completely misstating my partial memory :p
Upanga
11-08-2004, 19:13
good gravy people! it's chicken! if people weren't meant to eat them, then chickens would be 7 or 8 feet tall, have the IQ of einstein, have huge fangs and claws, and whenever a person tried to eat them they'd just get smashed into oblivion.
clearly they are edible foodstuffs.
Upanga
11-08-2004, 19:15
btw, chickens make excellent gravy
Undecidedterritory
11-08-2004, 19:15
this is pathetic. save the chickens! boo hoo hoo. give them human rights. dont eat them!

hahah, me, I will be having chicken for lunch thank you very much.
Bodies Without Organs
11-08-2004, 19:24
Any of the omnivores or ex-omnivores here actually eaten dog?
Sumamba Buwhan
11-08-2004, 19:28
Any of the omnivores or ex-omnivores here actually eaten dog?

No but I may have eaten horse before as I used to go to jack in the box a lot.
FPC
11-08-2004, 19:29
1 -Our teeth are not carnivoric...look at a dog's teeth - do you have fangs?
2 -Our stomach acid is about 1/20th the strength of true carnivore's - we can't handle raw meat,
3 -The majority of humankind for the majority of history has been vegetarian.

1 - As stated previously, our front theets are sharp to allow cutting of meat or food. Have you never brushed your theet or seen them?
2 - That's because of the thousands of years of evolution. When prehistoric man first discovered fire and used it, our stomachs grew lighter because there was no more need to eat raw meat.
3 - Hmmm, go to a library and take out a book of human history, you'll see that humans always ate meat. They were never fully vegetarian. Prehistoric humans hunted for food, then sedimentary tribes encaged them.
UpwardThrust
11-08-2004, 19:31
Any of the omnivores or ex-omnivores here actually eaten dog?


Yup ... not too bad
Brachphilia
11-08-2004, 19:32
We can't handle raw meat? I eat raw beef all the time and it doesn't bother me.
Upanga
11-08-2004, 19:37
got nothin wrong with raw meat, but you've never had e. coli?
Brachphilia
11-08-2004, 19:44
E Coli is primarily an issue if the butcher didnt wash his hands.

Solid chunks of meat are in most cases only contaminated on the surface, which can easily be washed off. Eating raw ground meat is usually a bad idea.
Zervok
11-08-2004, 19:54
I look at it this way.

Healthy life means healthy meat.
Diseased life means diseased meat.
and therefore
Better life means better meat.

Generally the lifestyle reflects on the quality of meat.
Dionusia
11-08-2004, 20:08
it's certainly more frequent than in humanity (I beleive/hope)...no I suppose it's not universal, but I seem to remember a bunch of nature shows showing females running from males as the typical mating behavior of a great many species.

Just because rape is more frequent in other species, you assume it is the standard?
Dionusia
11-08-2004, 20:31
Most people would not eat raw meat - my statement wasn't intentionally false, my apoligies.

Saying that most people would not eat raw meat is completely different than saying that peoples' stomachs were not designed to do so. Don't act like it's the same statement.

My parents grew up in a third world country and they ate raw meat a lot as well. Cooked meat was just as common, but raw meat has its own flavor, and it has its own place in that culture. Other cultures, especially western, choose not to eat raw meat because our standards of safety are higher, and we are afraid of diseases. It is not due to a biological reason, more of the safety issue.
Dionusia
11-08-2004, 20:38
*kisses you*
... I hope you realize that the post you were replying to didn't agree with you? It wasn't justifying nor condemning the human consumption of meat.

The modern widely agreed-upon conclusion for the ideal human diet is one part meat, three parts vegetables. This is the diet found on the island of Okenawa (sp?)... and their life expectancy is higher than anyone else's, including vegetarians. The point is that there is a leaning to being an herbivore, but a leaning to be an herbivore is different than actually being an herbivore.