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Repeal "Max Barry Day"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #223 (http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=222)
Proposed by: Omigodtheykilledkenny (http://www.nationstates.net/omigodtheykilledkenny)

Description: UN Resolution #223: Max Barry Day (http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=222) (Category: Education and Creativity; Area of Effect: Educational) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: These here fine United Nations,

Commending Resolution #223's laudable purpose, to recognize truly great men and their achievements;

Duly congratulating this resolution's intended honoree on his many titles from coed beauty pageants throughout the NS world;

Expressing its concern, however, that this resolution breaches the reasonable limits to which this body has traditionally held itself;

Chagrined that amidst the many serious problems the world faces today, including war, terrorism, poverty, oppression, corruption, pestilence, disease, famine, malnourishment, starvation, taxes, illiteracy, substandard education, substandard sex education, imperial measurements, necrophilia, space junk, nations not labeling chemicals correctly, shortages of computers for schoolchildren, invisible tree people, shortages of computers for invisible tree schoolchildren, rampant ecclesiastical self-defenestration, and reluctance to eradicate the Arctocephalinae, the United Nations would actually pass a resolution declaring an international holiday for some dude who started a Website suggests that this institution's priorities are somewhat out of whack;

Kicking Ausserland in the nuts,

Hereby repeals Resolution #223: Max Barry Day.Comments welcome. :p

Ambassador Boco stands and applauds.

"If I make take the podium for a moment... Thank you."

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"A most worthy repeal. My delegation would, however, note that we do not consider taxes to be a problem, and I must lodge my government's concern on that particular point.

Also, what is this about Ausserland's nuts? Is the fine country of Ausserland a particularly renowned exporter of nut-derived produce?"

"Nut-derived produce"? I don't know what the frick you're talking about; I just think we should all kick Ausserlanders in the nuts. Just because we can, and because it's fun (easy, too, since they're so low to the ground)!

The commander has just slipped a note to inform me that I neglected to mention rampant ecclesiastical self-defenestration (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12372739&postcount=7) in this draft. It's been amended.

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

Illegal, nut-kicking. Next thing you know you'll be branding the poor blighter.

Contradictory. Impossible to implement. Some members of the Ausserland delegation cannot be subjected to the proposed UN action.

Fashionist, in that it advocates "breeches". What have Kennyites got against skirts? "Breaches", please.

Vague. "Truly great men"? What have Kennyites got against ... no, don't answer that. Just change it to include women. And don't try that "men does include women" stuff. On this topic, Ardchoille is not prepared to be a Reasonable Nation.

Apart from these minor quibbles, however, Ardchoille is prepared to support this proposal wholeheartedly throughout every stage of its life, and will let it live at home rent-free until it is 30.

-- Dicey Reilly, wrongfully President for Life of Ardchoille.

Well, except for the line about kicking Ausserland in the nuts (as it is below the conduct of respectable UN nations), I approve this repeal.

Nobah D. Kairs
UN Ambassador
The Rogue Hodgepodge of Existing reality

Our nation wholeheartedly supports this proposal.

Noticing how many yes votes have been lodged for this "Max Barry" resolution I can logically deduce that many of my fellow delegates are not only empty headed idiots but woefully unfit to hold such an esteemed post.

The Guardian delegation simply applauded loudly at reading the text.

I must agree with the Sturmholmian delegate. What is more, suggesting such a proposal before the actual vote ends seems totally mindless and unserious...
And I am saying this as a strong opponent of the original proposal...

Accusing me and my fellow countrymen of being "totally mindless and unserious"? How dare you, sir! You have besmirched my honor, and I demand satisfaction!

I challenge you to duel, with Mk 19 automatic grenade launchers at sundown.

Do you accept these terms, fucknut?

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

I am not used to extermiante drunk nor hashed indyvidua and your language, sir, clearly suggests such state of your mind...
Instead of voting your proposal the UN should probably consider political ignorance towards your government and any further proposals until you reach a certain level. Good luck with it, Sir.
If you please, The Ealven Realm's Highest Academy may grant you with a free training of diplomatic language and standarts along with a free student house accomodation.

looks at the delegate from Elven Realm

I believe the delegate misunderstood me. I am in support of the Omigodtheykilledkennites repeal...not the incredibly stupid one currently at vote.
And as for calling their delegation "mindless and unserious"...well I think you have stepped into a hornets nest with that and may whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul.

And you, honorable delegate, do not think that repealing something that does not exist yet, is unserious?
Well then, what can I add... Let u splay this way and bloc the UN completely. So perhaps I should start a repeal of the repeal of the Max Bayry proposal (not a resoltion yet!) and so on and so on... I still consider such action inapriopriate and unserious...

I respect your opinion on the matter however misguided or dangerous to ones personal well being it may be.I would urge the delegate from The Elven Realm however to unbunch their undergarments and realize that it is commonly acceptable to bring proposals up for discussion before submitting them.
I see nothing unwise or unserious about the Kennyites actions.
Irregardless of delegate Susa's reaction to your comments,although most here know that Kennyites in general and Susa specifically are not well known for their....well..."anger management skills".

The Grand duchy of Elven Realm totally understand and respect the Sturmholmian perspective and would like to thank for you try at easing the tention down, which, and here you are totally right, is the only thing to do now...

You damn Kennyites....lol

While we would have liked to be the nation to destroy this "resolution," we concede the fact we could not have ever written such a hilarious repeal. Such a terrible "resolution" should be met with a highly sarcastic repeal. Supported.

Vance Aceon
Deputy Presiding Jevian UN Representative

I roared with laughter the moment I saw this repeal hanging from the rostra - you have my fullest support.

Let the more conservative (and more senior, I might add) members of this august body deal their due mockery and ridicule to our 'freer' and more hippy supporters of the coming resolution. Such legislation has no business here.

The Narnian Council also endorses the punishment implied regarding Ausserland....Whether or not it be legal...

~ Lord Chancellor Luke Bonanno

Delightful. Might I be so bold as to request a reference to that most contentious bone, the qualitative spatial assessment of the humble Hippopotamus amphibius*?

*though not, of course, the Hexaprotodon liberiensis; why, that would be just plain silly!

Benedictions,

We hope none of our colleagues are concerned about the threatening language in the draft repeal. We aren't. We've been dealing with the Kennyites for quite a while. They're about 70% less dangerous than drowsy gerbils.

We told them once that, if they were going to talk the talk, they better be ready to walk the walk. They couldn't. They were chewing gum at the time.

Amadeus T. Tankhurst
Brigadier, AoA
Military Attache

We've been dealing with the Kennyites for quite a while. They're about 70% less dangerous than drowsy gerbils.Hmm ... interesting theory ... one wonders whether you've bounced it off the Kawaiians yet ...

FOR^2

Cookesland wholly supports this succint and hilarious repeal....except maybe the part about Ausserland.

Richard York
UN Ambassador

The URA supports the repeal and asks if they can be first to deliver Ausserland's punishment.

I must agree with the Sturmholmian delegate. What is more, suggesting such a proposal before the actual vote ends seems totally mindless and unserious...
And I am saying this as a strong opponent of the original proposal...

No, it's called being ready to submit the repeal the moment the crappy resolution passes. And believe you me, this is not the first time a repeal was drafted while it's target was at vote. This tactic was used on Promotion of Solar Panels (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9692882&postcount=123) and the only thing keeping the repeal from being the very next proposal up for vote was the fact that there was another resolution in the queue while Promotion of Solar Panels was at vote. I believe it also occured with Right to Divorce (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10394675&postcount=136).

Bob Flibble
UN Representative (and thread hijacker:D)

The URA supports the repeal and asks if they can be first to deliver Ausserland's punishment.

Do that and you'll have a fight on your hands. I have very...liberal...senators behind me, with clubs hidden in their cloaks. I believe they want to be the first...

No, it's called being ready to submit the repeal the moment the crappy resolution passes. And believe you me, this is not the first time a repeal was drafted while it's target was at vote.

Exactly. As pointed out, this practice is perfectly legal, and has been done over and over in history. Lets say it adds a little 'diversity' to legislation wars...

I'm submitting this on Thursday morning at 10:30 a.m. Paradise City time (it wouldn't be an InstaRepeal™ otherwise). If you want me to change anything, tell me before then. I'm sure I'll be able to cut a deal with the really short dudes to remove the clause about damaging their family jewels by submission time.

Keep your fingers crossed. Oh, and DEATH TO THE INFIDELS!! ALLAHU AKBAR!! and so forth.

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

UN Representative (and thread hijacker:D)

OOC: It's not a hijack, Flib, it's an EEA -- Educational and Erudite Aside.

... Let the more conservative (and more senior, I might add) members of this august body deal their due mockery and ridicule to our 'freer' and more hippy supporters of the coming resolution ... ~ Lord Chancellor Luke Bonanno

IC: Dicey Reilly, almost (but, unfortunately, not quite) speechless with rage:

If that's aimed at me I'll have you know, Chancellor Bonanno, that I'm only 120 next birthday, which makes me only 30-and-a-bit in human years -- but I'm old enough to deal with that appalling insult to my nation! We've patiently borne many a groundless accusation, but that's just too much! Conservative! Not hippy! I'll show you ...

The ominous red glow creeping across the floor of the GA towards the Narnian delegation dies as Feline Advisor Bast once again crash-tackles the President and explains:

What my colleague meant to say, I am sure, was that, as the wording of the Kennyite resolution is insufficiently inclusive, it must necessarily be dismissed. In our view, the replacement of "men" with "beings" would be a suitable alteration.

We would also entreat the proposer to amend the section relating to the Ausserland delegation, either by eliminating it completely (which we would favour, the specific reference rendering it open to a legality challenge), or by inserting the words "where appropriate" after "nuts".

The proposed repeal is far too vital to allow any possibility of it failing on such a minor technicality as ignoring the existence of half the population of the human-based nations.

Silly kitty. The "great men" part is obviously alluding to Max Barry, who is a man. If you can convince him to become androgynous by the time I submit this, I'll be happy to change it "great asexual beings" or somesuch.

While the resolution to be repealed refers to a Mr Barry, the repeal's general statement of its aims is "to honour great men", which can be read in the (deplorably) generic sense of "men" or the specific sense of "males", and is therefore imprecise.

In order to ensure that the repeal achieves both precision and all-inclusive destruction, we urge that, despite their quibbles, the proposers adopt our carpet-bombing alternative term.

-- Bast, Feline Advisor to the President of Ardchoille.

We told them once that, if they were going to talk the talk, they better be ready to walk the walk. They couldn't. They were chewing gum at the time.

I think it helps distract them if you have shiny objects to wave in the air.

Oh, we support.

Ikir Askanabath, Acting Ambassador

I wonder if the Ausserland clause constitutes "introducing new legislation." It is having the UN to kick Auss in the nuts... :rolleyes:

Hmm ... interesting theory ... one wonders whether you've bounced it off the Kawaiians yet ...

We can assure our esteemed colleagues here that Our people do not consider Kennyites to be drowsy.

I'm currently using a secured connection reserved for the Council of Nevesá... most of my countries communications have been lost due to this resolution (our general connection fell out here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13118949#post13118949)).

The voting for this resolution is currently as follows:
Votes For: 3,532
Votes Against: 1,543
Nearly 70% of the votes are in favor of this resolution... it would take an act of G-d to reverse this...

I will wholeheartedly support a repeal should this horrible piece of... legislation pass.

Good day.
Eros Tatriel
UN Rep. for Subistratica

I'd also like to add my wholehearted support to this wonderfully written repeal!

Er... however, if you don't mind, I'd like to refrain from kicking the Ausserlander's... nuts. It's just not ladylike, you know.

At the risk of sucking all the humor out of things...

Chagrined that amidst so many serious problems the world faces today, including fatal attacks by Africanized honey beesReal world reference.

Kicking Ausserland in the nuts,That's not really good either.

I know; I'm no fun.

We once again find ourselves in the mildly alarming position of supporting the Kennyites in a repeal, with two minor quibbles; we would rather be kicking the inhabitants of the nation of Dannie E Bolden in the nuts than the Ausserlanders, since it seems on the whole a considerably easier proposition, and our secretary tells us that we deeply regret the lack of inclusion of off-key singing as an issue more worthy of the UN's attention.

Kicking Ausserland in the nuts,That's not really good either.[Glares at Brig. Tankhurst]

So! Hiding behind your goons, eh? I got something for that:

Randomly kicking ambassadors in the nuts for even thinking this proposal was a good idea,Try and snake your way out of that one, short dudes!

Also added, By Order of Her Criminal Excellency, the Wicked Witch of the North (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13118603&postcount=27)*:

Chagrined that amidst so many serious problems the world faces today, including ... citing "truly great men" while ignoring the accomplishments of truly great women and asexual sapient slugs, ...Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

* Antarctica (www.nationstates.net/region=antarctic_oasis), remember. Everything is "north."

You have my approval, God forbid you need it.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

EDIT: It's a jump to the left. :rolleyes:

We support this repeal...
...even though random nut-kicking is not the most diplomatic solution to anything...(and I don't think all Ausserlanders have nuts, unless their "women" have hairy chests and beards...)

-- Hector, Prince Infante de Genosha


"And a step to the riiiiiiiiight":p

Definitely glad to see an appeal has already been drafted as it unfortunately appears that the current collection of words up for vote is going to receive majority approval---even though it still makes no sense.

We will support this any almost any attempt to repeal when it comes up for a vote.

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His Very Royal Highness, Prince Dirk Koller, P.Aff.M.
Deacon Prince & Heir-Apparent of The Constitutional Monarchy of Relikmere
Head of Financial & Constitutional Affairs
Ambassador to the United Nations
Member in the Highest, Royal Order of the Deaconate

Randomly kicking ambassadors in the nuts for even thinking this proposal was a good idea,Hm. Is this introducing new legislation in a Repeal? :p

The Sexy People's Republic of Zilam is disgusted that the people of the UN want to kill off the proposed holiday remembering the story of Max Barry. Everyone from Don Quixote, to Robin Hood, has filled the world with stories of men and women like the said fictitious person. These stories inspire citizens of every nation to be creative, or to simply reflect on the morals of said stories. I implore the people of the UN to not vote against this day, because it is important to be in remembrance of these stories, especially the one of the man they call Max Barry.

... citing "truly great men" while ignoring the accomplishments of truly great women and asexual sapient slugs ...

*Sorely tempted to create a nation called Asexual Sapient Slugs and then complain about branding.*

*refrains, not being wicked enough. Yet.*

I will support this repeal should the resolution at vote not be destroyed by the Hand of Admin. Or fail to pass, for that matter.

Of course, I'd support a repeal even if it didn't argue anything. This one is just funny.

Darren Funkel
Acting Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder, Democratic Underground region]

At the risk of sucking all the humor out of things... by Africanized honey beesReal world reference.Ambassador Susa, may we suggest using Killer Bees (or Beez even). We would be severely disappointed to see your proposal shot down on a mere technicality.

The Sexy People's Republic of Zilam is disgusted that the people of the UN want to kill off the proposed holiday remembering the story of Max Barry.Disgusted? Surely the Zilammi have far better things on which to waste their high dudgeon?

Leetha "every day's a holiday" Talone
UN Ambassador

OOC: It's not a hijack, Flib, it's an EEA -- Educational and Erudite Aside.

OOC: Actually Ard, I was referring to the fact that, due to Jolt's time warps, I stole the thread.

Hm. Is this introducing new legislation in a Repeal? :pNah, it's not urging or forcing anyone to kick anybody; it's just saying they're being kicked. :D

And I am grateful that you overlooked the metagaming violation in the second clause.

We will support this. However, we ask about the possibility of including a clause mandating the defenestration of the Putzi ambassador.

~Dr. Jules Hodz
Delegate, Conservative Paradise

Never thought i'd utter the words, but..(tongue firmly in cheek)....surely repealing an illegal proposal means that this proposal is recognising the Max Barry Day proposal's right to have been voted in, and is therefore, in itself, ...ahem.....illegal.

stop-complaining-about-NOTHING! I just voted for because it doesn't exactly hurt anything, so why make such a big deal? completly idiotic that you want to repealsomething that hasn't yet been passed

We will support this. However, we ask about the possibility of including a clause mandating the defenestration of the Putzi ambassador.Well, under the final clause, he's still gonna be be kicked in the nuts. Is that good enough for you?

Funny, I never thought Dr. Hodz needed a resolution to defenestrate anyone.

Never thought i'd utter the words, but..(tongue firmly in cheek)....surely repealing an illegal proposal means that this proposal is recognising the Max Barry Day proposal's right to have been voted in, and is therefore, in itself, ...ahem.....illegal.That never stopped the Law of the Sea repeal. :p

OOC: Actually Ard, I was referring to the fact that, due to Jolt's time warps, I stole the thread.Oh sure. Blame it on Jolt! I could see you, lurking, salivating, grinning with avaricious longing, poised to fling yourself into that swirling temporal vortex moments before I posted this topic. You wanted this thread. Well, it's yours.

Jolt, however, still thinks it's mine. It'll still let me add a poll, when the time comes. So take that.

A little mood music (http://youtube.com/watch?v=s0F6dLtG1tI)*, and we're done.

* much obliged, binary vixen.

Never thought i'd utter the words, but..(tongue firmly in cheek)....surely repealing an illegal proposal means that this proposal is recognising the Max Barry Day proposal's right to have been voted in, and is therefore, in itself, ...ahem.....illegal.

No, it's not illegal to repeal an illegal resolution. It's illegal to repeal an illegal resolution on the grounds that it's illegal. So, a proposed repeal of this illegal resolution that does so on grounds other than that it's illegal would not be illegal.

Excuse me. I need a nap now. :confused::p

Well, under the final clause, he's still gonna be be kicked in the nuts. Is that good enough for you?

Funny, I never thought Dr. Hodz needed a resolution to defenestrate anyone.

Well, I suppose that's fine. And I really don't; it's just nice to make it official in case someone sues or something.

~Dr. Jules Hodz

No, it's not illegal to repeal an illegal resolution. It's illegal to repeal an illegal resolution on the grounds that it's illegal. So, a proposed repeal of this illegal resolution that does so on grounds other than that it's illegal would not be illegal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/kirkspock.gif

Forgive me...I must have dazed off there amidst all that bickering...the senator for Freebesteria's overheating projector must have woken me up.


If that's aimed at me I'll have you know, Chancellor Bonanno, that I'm only 120 next birthday, which makes me only 30-and-a-bit in human years -- but I'm old enough to deal with that appalling insult to my nation! We've patiently borne many a groundless accusation, but that's just too much! Conservative! Not hippy! I'll show you ...

You are in support of this ridiculous holiday? Next we'll be faced with 'The Day of the Rainbow' or 'We are the Tree Saviors' day! By the way, is that your VW Kombi sitting in the delegate's carpark? I had always wondered...

~ The Lord Chancellor

May we suggest that the honoured ambassador of the waffle warriors looks up the word "illegal". It seems that it would prove enlightening, and may prevent future unfortunate occurances with duly constituted authorities.

Here here. Don't we just love over-enthusiastic backbenchers?

Perhaps I'll withdraw my vote 'against' Max Barry Day...to lower the count below 2000 and make this "soon-to-be-archived as the most idiotic proposals ever passed" even more embarrassing for the UN...

Ladels and jellyspoons,

I'll need some help carpet-bombing the list of delegates to campaign for this on Thursday. If you'd like to be a part of this, there are sign-up sheets here (www.nationstates.net/omigodtheykilledkenny) and here (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Antarctic_Oasis/index.php?showtopic=550&view=findpost&p=7045467).

Thanks,
Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

[Edit:]

Jolt, however, still thinks it's mine. It'll still let me add a poll, when the time comes. So take that.Scratch that, now it thinks it yours. :(

Unfortunately, my region is only small (and getting smaller by the day), with me as the only Un-member, so I can't be a delegate. If I were, I would've signed up instantly. I won't care a thing about the text in the repeal. Anything with the title 'Repeal of 'Max Barry Day' will be Insta-supported by my ambassador, i.e. me.

Ladels and jellyspoons,

I'll need some help carpet-bombing the list of delegates to campaign for this on Thursday. If you'd like to be a part of this, there are sign-up sheets here (www.nationstates.net/omigodtheykilledkenny) and here (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Antarctic_Oasis/index.php?showtopic=550&view=findpost&p=7045467).

Thanks,
Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

ADFair is at your disposal, Mr. Batko-Yovino.

I have informed my regional delegate Poodledomism. I am confident he would endorse this proposal anyways. But I will ask him to do it again when this hits the Proposals section.

Nobah D. Kairs
UN Ambassador
The Rogue Hodgepodge of Existing reality

Ladels and jellyspoons,

I'll need some help carpet-bombing the list of delegates to campaign for this on Thursday. If you'd like to be a part of this, there are sign-up sheets here (www.nationstates.net/omigodtheykilledkenny) and here (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Antarctic_Oasis/index.php?showtopic=550&view=findpost&p=7045467).

Thanks,
Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations


The Narnian Council's Communication Ministry would be very interested to broadcast this campaign - let me know what I can do.

~ Lord Chancellor Luke Bonanno

stop-complaining-about-NOTHING! I just voted for because it doesn't exactly hurt anything, so why make such a big deal? completly idiotic that you want to repealsomething that hasn't yet been passed

Well, it has already been pointed out too many times that the "Max Barry Day" resolution breaks numerous UN resolution rules.
Or are you saying that we should just forget the rules so that such wonderful proposals as "Stop Self-Abause" can be passed because a bunch of idiots thought it would be funny to support it?

And, considering how the voting is going and that it ends tomorrow, pretty much anyone who thinks it won't pass is insanely idiotic.

We sincerely hope this goes through. We voted against, and we're not at all happy with the way things are looking to turn out. We will now sleep, and have bad dreams. Oh, and we will support if we are able. But we are new to the UN, and so we really don't know what the heck we're doing. . .:confused:

No, it's not illegal to repeal an illegal resolution. It's illegal to repeal an illegal resolution on the grounds that it's illegal. So, a proposed repeal of this illegal resolution that does so on grounds other than that it's illegal would not be illegal.

Excuse me. I need a nap now. :confused::p

That's definitely messed up.

I support repeal on whatever legal grounds exist or illegal ones that just might get through again.

A shipment of Katyusha artillery rockets will be sent to "El Guerrero," for being the first delegate to approve my repeal (www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=barry). As for the rest of you lazy bums, what?? Are your clicking fingers broken? Approve (www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=barry), damn you! :mad:

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

A shipment of Katyusha artillery rockets will be sent to "El Guerrero," for being the first delegate to approve my repeal (www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=barry). As for the rest of you lazy bums, what?? Are your clicking fingers broken? Approve (www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=barry), damn you! :mad:

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

I was as quick as I could be. :)

OOC: Repeal? Already? :p

Destroy this devilish resolution now!

:fluffle:
We would have voted yes if we were able to because it sounded so wonderful to have a new myth in our nation and we will ape the accepted resolution and celebrate it in due time.

It seems there are people that are against this wonderful resolution and want to ban it?!? Well if it comes to a vote, I guess I would agree to repeal the resolution if I could vote. Perhaps the myth is not appropriate for the UN. So my country would be willing to ban this great resolution celebrating this myth.... if we could only vote.

Ummm, one question though, would it not have been better for each nation to decide for itself if they wanted to celebrate this myth in the first place instead of through the UN? Maybe that's a good reason to repeal it? Well, we just hope no one is offended by our pointless spatter. :)

The people of Elven Realm are keeping their fingers crossed for the repeal to pass. Good luck to all thinking reasonably...

Added the delegate approval

Richard York
UN Ambassador

This proposal has the full support of myself, the Council of Nevesá, the National Annex, and the entire nation of Subistratica.

Good day.

Eros Tatriel
UN Rep. for Subistratica

Alas, I'm not a regional Delegate, but I'll certainly vote for this repeal when it comes to the floor.

I'm so glad I got to this one first; I'd have had to wait for weeks for all the other InstaRepeals (that accompany the passage of every resolution) to die down:

Repeal "Max Barry Day"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #223
Proposed by: CoallitionOfTheWilling

Description: UN Resolution #223: Max Barry Day (Category: Education and Creativity; Area of Effect: Educational) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: OUTRAGED that the UN would create an arbitrary holiday that thus only increases government waste.

RECOGNIZING that Useless holidays only make the United Nations more inefficient and useless.

HEREBY Repeals UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION #223


Approvals: 6 (Crezlyvania, Poodledomism, Uiri, Grahameni, El Joob, Subistratica)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 107 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sun Oct 14 2007

Repeal "Max Barry Day"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #223
Proposed by: VirtualHolocaust

Description: UN Resolution #223: Max Barry Day (Category: Education and Creativity; Area of Effect: Educational) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I believe that this holiday should be celebrated for an entire week. And the offical food of the occasion should be pie and the offical drink should be punch.

Approvals: 2 (Poodledomism, Grahameni)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 111 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sun Oct 14 2007I guess the second one, introducing new legislation? :confused:

I wonder if this repeal will finally clear the road for Cobdenia's long term goal of disposing of those bastard fur seals...

His Excellency Sir Cyril G. M. R. C. O'M. A. DeD. von H. W. U.-G. B. S. M'B. V. MacLehose-Strangways-Jones III, KCRC, LOG
His Cobdenian Excellency's Permanent Representative to the United Nations

I would support this if I was a delegate but am pleased to report that the delegate from our region has given his approval for the resolution toward quorum.

The Government of Vindrstoc supports this.
We do not know what a 'Max Barry' is, and what 'game' was the original proposition referring to?

-Vindrstoc

By my count, there are now SIX InstaRepeals for Max Barry Day. Is that a record?

Also -- who is this Max person, anyway?

New Sequoyah shall support the Repeal in the halls of our Congress.
New Sequoyah shall support the Repeal in the Council Hall of our Regional Alliance.
New Sequoyah shall support the Repeal in the halls of the United Nations.
New Sequoyah shall support the Repeal in the General Assembly.
New Sequoyah shall support the Repeal, Sam-I-Am.

I'm beginning to sound like Dr. Suess now...

Lieut. Gen. John Brown Gordon, Ret.
UN Ambassador from New Sequoyah

By my count, there are now SIX InstaRepeals for Max Barry Day. Is that a record?There are many "insta-repeals," m'dear, but there is only one InstaRepeal™ (www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=barry).

Don't be fooled by cheap imitation repeals...

Repeal "Max Barry Day"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #223
Proposed by: Munruben

Description: UN Resolution #223: Max Barry Day (Category: Education and Creativity; Area of Effect: Educational) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Why waste doing this when you can come up with better celebrated days than this becuase you better tell me how we actaully celebrate this day.

Approvals: 8 (Flibbleites, NewTexas, Hostile Psychotics, Gataconn, Jozmilia, Compulsoria, Intelligenstan, Trentoli)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 105 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Mon Oct 15 2007Repeal "Max Barry Day"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #223
Proposed by: The Secret Otter

Description: UN Resolution #223: Max Barry Day (Category: Education and Creativity; Area of Effect: Educational) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This resolution was based upon a fictitious "website" that has no reality in our world. The UN should not and can not be seen to bow down to the fantasy world created by the masses.
I propose that this resolution be repealed immediatly as an illegal resolution.

Approvals: 8 (NewTexas, Hostile Psychotics, Gataconn, Jozmilia, Ebronerk, Compulsoria, Intelligenstan, Trentoli)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 105 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Mon Oct 15 2007Repeal "Max Barry Day"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #223
Proposed by: Sanctissima Trinitas

Description: UN Resolution #223: Max Barry Day (Category: Education and Creativity; Area of Effect: Educational) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: No man must be glorified in such a way that he is recognized on a particular day in all nations around the world.

This is an offense to our nations' right to celebrate our own cultural holidays free from international influences. Max Barry is of no particular importance to many nations around the world, and there is no reason for which a day in his honor should be forced upon those nations whose culture does not have any particular interest in Max Barry.

Approvals: 5 (Gataconn, Jozmilia, Compulsoria, Intelligenstan, Trentoli)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 108 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Mon Oct 15 2007Repeal "Max Barry Day"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #223
Proposed by: Scottlandiapolis

Description: UN Resolution #223: Max Barry Day (Category: Education and Creativity; Area of Effect: Educational) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This is outrages!!!!!!!, he is just a normal person for pete's sake, sure he made nationstates but why should we be forced to celebrate his actions in 2002? Thats just it, we shouldn't have to!!!!!!!!!

Approvals: 1 (Scottlandiapolis)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 112 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Mon Oct 15 2007...stick with the brand you trust!

InstaRepeal™
112 Delegates can't be wrong!

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Sir Bodsworth stands up singing 'For they are jolly good fellows' in the direction of the Kennyite ambassadorial delegation.

[Smiles appreciatively at the young woman holding up the placard.]

Thank you, Quorum Girl; I'll be up in my office later, if you want to pop in. Eighth floor, first door on the right. [winks]

Now then, I'd like to acknowledge the guys who helped me telegram for this thing. A BIG round of applause, is you will, for the delegations from Ariddia, Gobbannium, Goobergunchia, and Rubina!!

[The Assembly roars.]

That's right, folks. The Kennyites and the Fluffy Mafia were incahoots, which is a unmistakable sign of the horrors to come. If the Apocalypse wasn't upon us (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Antarctic_Oasis/index.php?showtopic=632&view=findpost&p=7043170) before, surely it is upon us now!

[Excited murmuring in the audience.]

Speaking of the Apocalypse, as a token of my esteem for our coalition partners, I intend to blow them up last. And speaking of blowing shit up, a crate of MANPADS shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles is being shipped to Kungpaomao for being the nation who brought us over the top.

[Waves and smiles cockily at the Tanularis, who have begun to sing.]

Thank you, thank you. I know I'm awesome! ...

I yield back, Madame Secretary General.

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

We regret to inform you, that The United Socialist States of Gaulii and all of Russmark disapprove of this repeal, and will vote against should that come to pass. And should it be repealed, Gaulii and all of Russmark will continue to celebrate Max Barry Day. It is disturbing to see so many nations opposed to something so harmless, and to see them make a big deal out of it. With the up most regards.

Caesarium Samuel Jay Lenin II
Leader of USSG, UN Delegate from Russmark

Yes. We totally just copy-pasted the repeal posted by Omigodtheykilledkenny and submitted it.

Yes. We totally just copy-pasted the repeal posted by Omigodtheykilledkenny and submitted it.

Why... :confused:

(The real one has already reached quorum.)

We are a nation new to the UN and yet even we are able to grasp the simple rule as stated in the Rules For UN Proposals which we would like to cite as irrefutably clear evidence that this resolution must be undone:

Real World Violations

George Bush, Hammas, France, The Michigan Compiled Laws (Annotated), and Smith & Wesson do not exist in the NationStates world. Don't bring them up in Proposals. This includes references to real world documents, movies, and books. This is really easy to grasp and is a "bright line" violation. A Proposal that is wonderfully written, but mentions "the Great Wall of China" will be deleted.

The matter could not be more clear.

We are a nation new to the UN and yet even we are able to grasp the simple rule as stated in the Rules For UN Proposals which we would like to cite as irrefutably clear evidence that this resolution must be undone:

You're right that Max Barry Day includes RL references, which is most certainly illegal. However, that's not the reason that it should be repealed: resolutions can't be repealed under the argument that they are illegal. If that were so, most of the resolutions before the current rule set could be repealed with that argument. The reason this proposal wasn't deleted for rule-breaking is because the mods were a little late with the delete button.

Sokyrka has notified their region's UN delegate, and they have decided to support this.

We would like to thank Ambassador Batko-Yovino for his kind words and even kinder offer, though we would appreciate it if he were a little more circumspect with his use of the word 'apocalypse'. Our region tends to get a little over-excited when presented with such prospects; army reservists are called in, prophecies are re-examined in excruciating detail, and tea is frequently delayed. By the time someone finds out what is actually happening, it has usually been dealt with by some school children.

We would like to add some words of encouragement of our own: VOTE FOR THE REPEAL MOTHERF-

[There is a shuffling of papers]

Apologies, honoured delegates, we seem to have picked up the text of our telegram rather than our prepared speech.

On behalf of The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites, I'd like to state that our intentions are to vote in favor of the repeal and urge everyone to help us get this mother(beep)ing holiday off our mother(beep)ing calendar!

Timothy Schmidt
Bob Flibble's PA

Why... :confused:Why? Why? This body elects to entertain a motion to reverse the impending Apocalypse, and you dare ask why?!

It's obvious that the magnitude and consequence of this repeal is so great that it can't possibly be submitted just once. The act must be repeated again and again, to drive the point home to those 66% of UN voters who willed to trigger the world's destruction just yesterday. I urge supporters to push this new submission to quorum as well; that way, if this repeal should fail, its immediate branded reintroduction would prevail upon the members of this honored assembly that they have no choice but to relinquish this act of legislative Armageddon.

Approve InstaRepeal™2 (www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal/start=19)! Our very lives depend upon it.

We are a nation new to the UN and yet even we are able to grasp the simple rule as stated in the Rules For UN Proposals which we would like to cite as irrefutably clear evidence that this resolution must be undone...

Bravo! Good to see a new nation that actually bothered to read the rules.
OOC: Just for that, you now totally rock.

...resolutions can't be repealed under the argument that they are illegal...

Well, I'm voting to repeal it because no one, not even LILITH, has been able to tell us who this "Max Barry" person is supposed to be. Why are we honoring a non-existant person? Sounds rather stupid to me.
(OOC: We cannot properly identify Mr. Barry in the context of the proposal while remaining in-character. Therefore, there is no reason to keep it. Even though his books rock and this is a great website. So get over it.)
(You probably voted For it, didn't you?)

(OOC: We cannot properly identify Mr. Barry in the context of the proposal while remaining in-character.You can certainly identify at least one Max Barry, possibly as many as three, two of which are authors, one of which is even a programmer (who mentions a web game):

5. "Well, I know what I'll be doing," says obscure author and Perl amateur Max Barry. "Sitting at home with a good book! Jennifer Government, for instance, is a cracking read. And I hear that some of the profits go into maintaining a cool web game. But of course, that's just my opinion. People should celebrate however they want."Max Barry is this year's Miss @@NAME@@A new book, Jennifer Government, by Max Barry, has been causing quite a stir in governmental offices across @@NAME@@.

We find ourselves deliberating whether to vote in favour of the repeal as we are a peaceful people thus could never easily vote for anything that condones violence against other nations or individuals irrespective of the stupidity of those individuals and nations.

However, given that this violence is limited to males and intersexual individuals we have decided that, on balance, having a few men curled up in a ball is infinitely less suffering than the apocalypse would bring so will quite probably cast our vote in favour when the time comes.

This, of course, has nothing to do with the fact that we’re a matriarchal nation.

Anravelle Kramer,
Envoy of the Planner Faithful.

The Empire shall amost undoubtedly be voting in favour of a repeal.

We couldnt agree more that the honour of a non-existant person is the height of not only illogic, but unintelligence in general.

Perhaps the creator of the original bill would also like us to honour Harry Potter or Gandalf the wizard, or where's Wally?

The fact remains and stands that the Empire shall not place any value in "Max-Berry day" whenever that is, for no such person has done something for the world, or more importantly, was ever born.

If in future, a global-holiday is to be annonced, we should select a more appropriate reason for celebration?

M. Thomas Luden
Ambassador of the Aaronian Empire.

OoC: 4:1 odds on Imperial Aaronia being British or Australian

OoC: 4:1 odds on Imperial Aaronia being British or Australian


"honour"?

(OOC: We cannot properly identify Mr. Barry in the context of the proposal while remaining in-character. Therefore, there is no reason to keep it. Even though his books rock and this is a great website. So get over it.)
(You probably voted For it, didn't you?)

Yes I understand that. I'm quite aware of the Rules for UN Proposals. There's nothing for me to "get over": I was stating another fact about UN Repeals. I voted against it, anyway.

"honour"?
That and "Where's Wally?"

In the US it's "Where's Waldo?"

I know, I looked it up, and till now, I had no idea the rest of the Anglosphere called him "Wally."

I know, I looked it up, and till now, I had no idea the rest of the Anglosphere called him "Wally."

OoC: I prefer to call it the civilised world, old bean :p

There are many "insta-repeals," m'dear, but there is only one InstaRepeal™ (www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=barry).

Don't be fooled by cheap imitation repeals...

...stick with the brand you trust!

InstaRepeal™
112 Delegates can't be wrong!

I shall. It's the Kennyite-endorsed InstaRepeal or NOTHING.

ooc: Yes I am British. I cant stand to see people write honor, it drives me crazy.
and: "Where's Waldo?" ? wtf? lol

;)
This is so interesting to see how an unpopular law can be defeated. Not only is there a repeal for it, but there are 6 identical repeals in the queue, which means if the first repeal doesn't pass, the second repeal will make quorum and we'll vote on that.... The unpopular law will bring the UN at a standstill because it will constantly be proposed as a new repeal and reach quorum and then to the vote until the wise ones get the foolish law repealed!!! Note how the wise ones are following the rules of the game (there is no rule indicating that we can not propose the same proposal more than once, even though moderators may intervene if a proposal imitates an already existing law).... The ones who did not read the rules and proposed Max Barry day have also left the manner of celebration vague. One nation (Truthmongers) wanted to celebrate that day by invading a UN country who voted for the Max Barry day.... their way to celebrate Max Barry's sense of irony.

Suffice it to say, I like the strategies I see developing to resist this unfortunate law, the vagueness of it encourages a selfish interpretation of the law and many repeals are being sent in the queue to guarantee that we will talk about this unfortunate slip of the rules until it gets rectified.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how many laws get yes votes when quorum is reached? I'm imagining that people vote yes to anything that reaches quorum without really reading the text, which may explain why the Max Barry law went through while the wise ones were discussing the merits (or lack thereof).... if this is the case, when quorum is reached, people will vote yes on the repeal without reading and we will have repealed!!! :D

ooc: Yes I am British. I cant stand to see people write honor, it drives me crazy.
and: "Where's Waldo?" ? wtf? lol

OoC: I quite agree, WTF is a bally Waldo?

A Wally, on the other hand, is fully understandabl!

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how many laws get yes votes when quorum is reached?
The UN timeline (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Timeline) lists passed, failed, and otherwise interesting resolutions that reached queue
I'm imagining that people vote yes to anything that reaches quorum without really reading the text,
There are an awful lot of UN members who vote without paying close attention. Then again, you never know what's going to catch anyone's eye. Several resolutions I thought were sure things got roundly rejected.

Two things:

Finally! Someone has realised the absurdity of such a resolution! I say support (even though I am in no place to do such).
Why have you not marketted the InstaRepeal product to various other ambassadors?


Horgen Dush
UN Representative, Nomadic Peoples of Damanucus

You can certainly identify at least one Max Barry, possibly as many as three, two of which are authors, one of which is even a programmer (who mentions a web game)...

OOC: That may be so, but the text of the resolution reads as follows:
Max Barry Day
Description : In November of 2002 a man named Max Barry created a website that lets users make thier own nations........This is where we stand today.

This Document declares that every March 18 will be honored as an international holiday called Max Barry Day, in honor of the man who made and created this whole website.

So, in order to follow the resolution as it is worded, we must hono(u)r the specific Max Barry responsible for creating "this whole website". The website is not named in the resolution itself, but assuming that it refers to the specific http://www.nationstates.com that we (in the OOC sense) use as a game renders it pointless because:
It would be referring to the website through which our (OOC) nations exist, but in the IC world this specific website does not exist, and thus we cannot honor someone for creating a website that doesn't exist.

Besides, I don't like how the eplises is over-extended by 5 periods. But that's not the point.


And BTW, what does the REAL Max Barry (the one in the OOC world) think of all of this?

So, in order to follow the resolution as it is worded, we must hono(u)r the specific Max Barry responsible for creating "this whole website".Which would be the author and "amateur perl programmer" mentioned in the anniversary issue.

And BTW, what does the REAL Max Barry (the one in the OOC world) think of all of this?Last time I asked him about some stupid Resolution, he responce was something to the effect of "The UN gets the Resolutions the UN deserves."

This specific one, he probably hasn't even noticed. He's been rather busy with his daughter and book.

So, in order to follow the resolution as it is worded, we must hono(u)r the specific Max Barry responsible for creating "this whole website". The website is not named in the resolution itself, but assuming that it refers to the specific http://www.nationstates.com that we (in the OOC sense) use as a game renders it pointless because:
It would be referring to the website through which our (OOC) nations exist, but in the IC world this specific website does not exist, and thus we cannot honor someone for creating a website that doesn't exist.



Seconded. The whole lot of it.
If the website doesnt exist, the man does not exist. So...where is the logic in UN leaders voting to celebrate the life of an imaginary character?

also: "hono(u)r" - rofl

Who cares if it's "OOC"? There are plenty of us around who are never ever "IC", and are members of the UN for reasons that have nothing to do with roleplaying. Why can't we have our fun too?

ooc: Yes I am British. I cant stand to see people write honor, it drives me crazy.
and: "Where's Waldo?" ? wtf? lol

Alright, normally I don't rise to this logophilic bait, but it's you Brits who are in the wrong on "-our", and there's a simple reason why.

Pronunciation. If you're going to spell it au Francais, but not pronounce it that way, why do you get so upset about a segment of the English-speaking population who chose to spell it the way it's been pronounced for centuries?


This is so interesting to see how an unpopular law can be defeated. Not only is there a repeal for it, but there are 6 identical repeals in the queue, which means if the first repeal doesn't pass, the second repeal will make quorum and we'll vote on that.... The unpopular law will bring the UN at a standstill because it will constantly be proposed as a new repeal and reach quorum and then to the vote until the wise ones get the foolish law repealed!!! Note how the wise ones are following the rules of the game (there is no rule indicating that we can not propose the same proposal more than once, even though moderators may intervene if a proposal imitates an already existing law).... The ones who did not read the rules and proposed Max Barry day have also left the manner of celebration vague. One nation (Truthmongers) wanted to celebrate that day by invading a UN country who voted for the Max Barry day.... their way to celebrate Max Barry's sense of irony.

Suffice it to say, I like the strategies I see developing to resist this unfortunate law, the vagueness of it encourages a selfish interpretation of the law and many repeals are being sent in the queue to guarantee that we will talk about this unfortunate slip of the rules until it gets rectified.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how many laws get yes votes when quorum is reached? I'm imagining that people vote yes to anything that reaches quorum without really reading the text, which may explain why the Max Barry law went through while the wise ones were discussing the merits (or lack thereof).... if this is the case, when quorum is reached, people will vote yes on the repeal without reading and we will have repealed!!! :D

Welcome to NSUN. A while back, I attempted to coin a word for the disease you describe -- "titleitis". It didn't stick, but it still applies.

EDIT: Excellent post, btw.

Alright, normally I don't rise to this logophilic bait, but it's you Brits who are in the wrong on "-our", and there's a simple reason why.

Pronunciation. If you're going to spell it au Francais, but not pronounce it that way, why do you get so upset about a segment of the English-speaking population who chose to spell it the way it's been pronounced for centuries?'http://209.85.48.12/6802/45/emo/happy175%5B1%5D.gif

[let's not start a whole threadjacked thing over this, eh?]

If you're going to spell it au Francais,

OOC: For the sheer love of nitpicking, I should point out that it's not written quite à la française. We froggies spell it "honneur".

*ahem!*

[let's not start a whole threadjacked thing over this, eh?]

OOC: You posted while I was posting. I'm sure you did it on purpose. :p

OoC: It's just a cunning trick I've developed to stop threads from falling from the page. Nothing does that better than Anglo-American language conversation.


I suppose some day we'll have to sort it once and for all. I suggest a knife fight...

Who cares if it's "OOC"? There are plenty of us around who are never ever "IC", and are members of the UN for reasons that have nothing to do with roleplaying. Why can't we have our fun too?

OOC: Well, if you don't care about the IC aspect, then surely you could appreciate that, as Churcians pointed out, it is poorly written anyways.
And, also as Churchians noted, most likely everyone that voted For it probably did so without even reading it. I don't know about you, but I don't think that randomly voting "yes" for something is very "fun".

Hey what exactly is wrong with Max Barry Day? and why the the NSUN wasting its good time rethinking a resolution that was passed several days ago?

There is nothing wrong with a holiday that celebrates the genius behind this enjoyable website, and there is nothing wrong any holidays either. In fact more days should be holidays: St. Jean DeBapiste Day, St. Francis of Assissi Day, D-Day, Fall of the Berlin Wall Day, Cuck Norris Day, Pajama Day, etc, etc.

Leave the Holidays alone, they remind people that life is good and give them something to look forward, and the increased spending on Holidays is a slight boost for the economy.

Max Webber
High Commissioner to the NSUN

There is nothing wrong with a holiday that celebrates the genius behind this enjoyable website, and there is nothing wrong any holidays either. In fact more days should be holidays: St. Jean DeBapiste Day, St. Francis of Assissi Day, D-Day, Fall of the Berlin Wall Day, Cuck Norris Day, Pajama Day, etc, etc.

Short OOC: Well, we can't celebrate such things as D-Day or Cuck (sic) Norris Day since those are references to real-world people/events, and that is CLEARLY violating the rules.

Besides,

IC: I do not think that it is really the UN's place to dictate which holidays people should (or should not) celebrate.

ALSO, the Council of Nevesá pointed out something last night that I had not considered earlier:
How many nations actually follow the calendar system of whoever it was that proposed the resolution. We do not have a month called "March", and we're not entirely certain of what month this corresponds to in our system, and so we are unsure of when exactly we're even supposed to celebrate this.
And what about nations that might have a month called "March" that isn't the same as the one in the resolution. So does that mean that there are going to be random celebrations throughout the year?

Thus, it is a poorly written piece of legislation that will prove to be difficult to implement.

Good day.

Eros Tatriel
UN Rep. for Subistratica

ALSO, the Council of Nevesá pointed out something last night that I had not considered earlier:
How many nations actually follow the calendar system of whoever it was that proposed the resolution. We do not have a month called "March", and we're not entirely certain of what month this corresponds to in our system, and so we are unsure of when exactly we're even supposed to celebrate this.
And what about nations that might have a month called "March" that isn't the same as the one in the resolution. So does that mean that there are going to be random celebrations throughout the year?


They do now... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13127335&postcount=228)

Our Dear Leader and Emperor has fallen sick with a bout of pneumonia, and has sent me, Head Concubine of the People's Republic, in his place. Now:

1. Our Dear Leader is concerned that members do not place enough gravity in votes that repeal previously passed resolutions, and that they do not consider that fact that all resolutions were, at one time, approved, most by a majority of several percent.

2. Our Dear Leader notes that he and like-minded voters overwhelmingly passed the resolution creating theMax Barry Day less than one week ago, and does not understand why the assembly now thinks it appropriate to overturn the same.

3. O-dizzle-lizzle notes that it is proper and in good taste to honor the proven creator of our universe and everything in it with a national day of recognition.

Therefore, he wishes to announce that he will not vote to repeal the resolution.

Danke Schön.

Flourish. Exeunt.

On behalf of The republic of Apocoronas , I'd like to state that our intentions are to abstain from this vote.


Kostas Tsakonas,
Apocoronian UN Ambassador.

Welcome to NSUN. A while back, I attempted to coin a word for the disease you describe -- "titleitis". It didn't stick, but it still applies.

:)
Can we propose a UN law that states that nations not fall for this disease, and then describe the disease? That way you get to keep the word in circulation and those in the know can constantly use the word as an inside joke.... ;)

1. Our Dear Leader is concerned that members do not place enough gravity in votes that repeal previously passed resolutions, and that they do not consider that fact that all resolutions were, at one time, approved, most by a majority of several percent.
May we assure the honoured Concubine that many nations vociferously supporting this repeal, ourselves included, are also not greatly enamoured of the habit of proposing repeals that assembly sometimes falls into. It should be informative to the honoured Concubine that so many of us feel that this resolution merits an exception to our normal stance.

2. Our Dear Leader notes that he and like-minded voters overwhelmingly passed the resolution creating theMax Barry Day less than one week ago, and does not understand why the assembly now thinks it appropriate to overturn the same.
We deeply regret that your Dear Leader and many like-minded voters failed to notice the many grievous faults with the resolution 'Max Barry Day' that, in an ideal world, would have precluded it ever reaching the floor of this chamber. We invite you, on his behalf, to consider more closely the actual text that was approved, rather than the sentiments inaccurately presumed from it, and thus conclude with us that a repeal is the only possible remedy for these errors.

3. O-dizzle-lizzle notes that it is proper and in good taste to honor the proven creator of our universe and everything in it with a national day of recognition.
As an adherent of Strict Druidism (albeit we confess one rather lackadaisical in regularity of worship), we must point out that we have never seen any such proof that our universe has a creator rather than an interconnectedness. More importantly from a theological point of view, neither has the Grand Druid. We must therefore consider this particular point a most unwelcome attempt to impose a particular religion on all UN nations, and urge the honoured Concubine to tread more softly on this subject.

Hey what exactly is wrong with Max Barry Day? and why the the NSUN wasting its good time rethinking a resolution that was passed several days ago?

There is nothing wrong with a holiday that celebrates the genius behind this enjoyable website, and there is nothing wrong any holidays either. In fact more days should be holidays: St. Jean DeBapiste Day, St. Francis of Assissi Day, D-Day, Fall of the Berlin Wall Day, Cuck Norris Day, Pajama Day, etc, etc.

Leave the Holidays alone, they remind people that life is good and give them something to look forward, and the increased spending on Holidays is a slight boost for the economy.

:cool:
(OOC) Tell you what, propose a celebration based upon the Nation State universe and it will probably have a better reaction, here's one example: "Let us celebrate on January 13 of the UN approved calendar the passage of the first official resolution that is still in effect today. We will celebrate this day by receiving balloons from the different government taxation offices and play a treasure-hunt type game while being educated about the wonders of the UN... " This would be an appropriate rule proposal that satisfies your need for having holidays within this fictional world AND follow the internal rules that we follow to make the gaming enjoyable. I mean, come on.... read the forums a little more thoroughly and you'll see that we are not against the Max Barry day thing because we are heartless brutes who hate any type of celebration.... we are just trying to preserve the spirit of the game that Max Barry himself invented.... Is that so hard to understand? The true celebrators of Max Barry are the ones who are trying to preserve the rules of this fictional setting.... :rolleyes:

I final all the language used in your proposal to be VERY rude and offensive. You should have it removed and edit it.

Well, if that is your finaling, far be it from anyone in this spankingly delicious defenestratinating body ever to be rude or offensive to anyone! In a note of contrition, I admit to making false and misleading statements in this repeal. [mumurs in the audience] Yes, folks ... Max Barry never legitimately won the Miss Omigodtheykilledkenny Pageant. The contest was rigged. Rigged, I tells ya, rigged!

[horrified gasps.]

And that is why, ladies and gentlemen, we can no longer have any part in this repeal, its falsehoods, or its screamingly profane scrum-diddly-umptiousness. At Windhurst's request, this proposal will indeed be removed from the proposal list, on Wednesday. At that time its fate will be decided by those who make the decisions in this body, and we can all rest assured, that one day soon enough, Max Barry will be able to win an OMGTKK beauty pageant by his merits as a competitor, and how good he looks in a bikini -- not how many judges he can sleep with.

May God bless this General Assembly!

[wild cheering and applause.]

Chagrined that amidst the many serious problems the world faces today, including war, terrorism, poverty, oppression, corruption, pestilence, disease, famine, malnourishment, starvation, taxes, illiteracy, substandard education, substandard sex education, imperial measurements, necrophilia, space junk, nations not labeling chemicals correctly, shortages of computers for schoolchildren, invisible tree people, shortages of computers for invisible tree schoolchildren, rampant ecclesiastical self-defenestration, and reluctance to eradicate the Arctocephalinae, the United Nations would actually pass a resolution declaring an international holiday for some dude who started a Website suggests that this institution's priorities are somewhat out of whack;


1, so while you are trying to repeal max berry day, because the time could have been better spent creating preposals about things that 'truly'. So you are wasting YOUR time to repeal an international holiday, instead of making a proposal against one of those things on your list. please tell me how that makes sense

also why are invisible tree people and Arctocephalinae (or fur seals) problems that you feel like we should get rid of?

OOC: For the sheer love of nitpicking, I should point out that it's not written quite à la française. We froggies spell it "honneur".

Two-shay. Perhpas even THREE-shay.

:)
Can we propose a UN law that states that nations not fall for this disease, and then describe the disease? That way you get to keep the word in circulation and those in the know can constantly use the word as an inside joke.... ;)

I would, were I enamored of being roundly mocked for submitting such a resolution. I like the idea, but it's impractical and ripe for a summary defenestration.

THE PROPOSAL HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN?

:eek: *gasp*

THE PROPOSAL HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN?

:eek: *gasp*[OOC: What gave you that idea?]

[OOC: What gave you that idea?]

ooc: Well, someone carelessly reading your previous post without paying attention to the timings might think so :p

... what about the fur seals, man?

I'll likely lend my support for the repeal, but to state that the "reluctance to eradicate the Arctocephalinae" is a possible problem, a problem comparable to war and ecclesiastical self-defenestration???

Those poor Arctocephalinae are fur seals, my UN colleagues. Seals, I tell you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fur_seal

Of course, the spirit of the repeal is acceptable to the Gravelbourgeois, but its letter? Hmmm. We'd rather keep those Arctocephalinae around, and would be fully reluctant to see them eradicated.

</stops balancing colorful ball on nose, slaps flippers>

If it helps the honoured Gravelbourgeois delegation, we note that the repeal does not state whether the problem is an overabundance of reluctance or an insufficiency thereof. It merely highlights it as an issue of sufficient seriousness to merit UN consideration, a fact we are glad to see that you concur with.

Although Max Barry has created a website that is indeed entertaining and thought-provoking, this achievement alone is not worthy of an international holiday.

Most citizens in our nation have never heard of Mr. Barry. Our lawmakers were left wondering who this man was when this resolution was proposed.

Our nation believes that the UN should not set a precedent of wasting time creating international holidays.

The resolution does not accomplish anything. It is subtitled, "A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts," yet it gives no methods as to how this may be accomplished.

Resolution #223 is wholly trivial and unnecessary.

Ladies and gents, introducing our latest Kennypoll™! You'll note the non-discriminatory nature of the options: everyone gets kicked in the nuts.

So line up, fuckers!

[Begins polishing wingtip.]

You first, Gravelbourg. Come on!

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

We love the Beatles. We are the eggmen. We vote FOR.

Vance Aceon
Deputy Presiding Jevian UN Representative

I must choose to reject, As Max Barry is the main figure in Commuasia's Society and without him, we would be forced to give up our hero.

I must choose to reject, As Max Barry is the main figure in Commuasia's Society and without him, we would be forced to give up our hero.

I would like to remind the honourable ambassador that the resolution being repealed at the UN level does not oblige Commuasia to strike it from legislation at the national level. In other words, repealing this nonsense will not in any way force the Communasian people to "give up their hero".

[uel=http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Julien_Quan]Julien Quan[/url],
Deputy Ambassador to the United Nations,
PDSRA

I'd love to finance a hunting trip to bad me some invisible tree people and fur seals myself... say, Cmdr. Chiang- you wouldn't be able to, ah, do me some favors in that regard, ah? Ah?

Wermus Grakht
Honored General of the Snefaldian Army
Military Attache

I'd love to finance a hunting trip to bad me some invisible tree people and fur seals myself... say, Cmdr. Chiang- you wouldn't be able to, ah, do me some favors in that regard, ah? Ah?

Wermus Grakht
Honored General of the Snefaldian Army
Military Attache

Sir Bodsworth stands at the podium in thought for several minutes before responding.

"Reluctance to eradicate fur seals doesn't seem to have been a problem in Tanular. As for invisible tree people...we had some in Tanular awhile ago, but no one has seen them recently."

Wolfgang yawned lazily as IX and Kyle continued to be completely stationary.

"We support the repeal of this silly waste of time," he said, fighting through three more yawns.

Since Scotchpinestan is a nation that values law and order, and we believe that the UN should also value law and order, we will vote in favor of this repeal.

Ladies and gents, introducing our latest Kennypoll™! You'll note the non-discriminatory nature of the options: everyone gets kicked in the nuts.

So line up, fuckers!

[Begins polishing wingtip.]

You first, Gravelbourg. Come on!

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations



i like your style, but i beat you to it simply from international trade since the currency of the Holy Empire of CrutchGroin are kicks in the groin. plus free money is always good, here is the taxman that just got out of the hospital if you feel like donating a few kicks in the groins to our nation.

'Chagrined that amidst the many serious problems the world faces today, including war, terrorism, poverty, oppression, corruption, pestilence, disease, famine, malnourishment, starvation, taxes, illiteracy, substandard education, substandard sex education, imperial measurements, necrophilia, space junk, nations not labeling chemicals correctly, shortages of computers for schoolchildren, invisible tree people, shortages of computers for invisible tree schoolchildren, rampant ecclesiastical self-defenestration, and reluctance to eradicate the Arctocephalinae....'

I agree that all of these are more important issues than Max Barry Day. But firstly, need we always be the bearers of bad news? Cant the U.N. show the world that we can be light-hearted as well.

Secondly, if we wasted time that could be better used on these things passing Max Barry to begin with, then arent we wasting twice the time repealing it?

hi

we are very recent member state with the un and indeed very new state in general...

i agree that with out max barry we would not have exsisted at all none of us would, but there is the point of why give an international public holiday to one man when there is so many other issues to be delt with first...

however perhaps there is an alternative, if everyone is willing perhaps the un might reconsider the position if all the member states worked together to successfully acheive one of the many outstanding issues raised during the debate as an argument against having the max barry day

any thoughts are welcome

Voted for repeal.
'Twas a nutty proposal.
Have no nuts - lucky. :)

Erese

With all due respect to The Creator, the Max Barry Day resolution was an abomination unworthy of the august body of the UN. It must be repealed to maintain the dignity of the place.

Willy, Ambassador Emeritus, Outer Micronesia

'Binding' rule for UN proposals:

"George Bush, Hammas, France, The Michigan Compiled Laws (Annotated), and Smith & Wesson do not exist in the NationStates world. Don't bring them up in Proposals. This includes references to real world documents, movies, and books. This is really easy to grasp and is a "bright line" violation. A Proposal that is wonderfully written, but mentions "the Great Wall of China" will be deleted."

The original resolution and its repeal are both violating this rule. Max Barry does not exist in the NationStates world.
Why wasn't the original resolution deleted when it was a proposal?

I will vote FOR the repeal.

With all due respect to The Creator, the Max Barry Day resolution was an abomination unworthy of the august body of the UN. It must be repealed to maintain the dignity of the place.

Dearest United Nations members.

I don't personally see, what is so horribly wrong in this type of resolution, thus I don't see any reason, why it should be repealed. After all, why wasn't it deleted in the first place, if it would be so wrong. Trust me, I have a LENGTHY experience in failed proposals/resolutions.

Of course you can state, that Max Barry doesn't exist in the Nation States -world... Ok, why couldn't you still honor Mr. Barry as the creator of the NS.

His deeds have caused the fact, that we stand here today debating about, why he should NOT be honored by a specific day.

After all there are real-life examples about same topic, but you can draw your own conclusions.

With this said, I can proudly state, that I am against this repeal. Mr. Barry needs at least this kind of act of charity from at least those, who are thankful to the existence of this world, we stay in.

It could've been any other guy. Barry just invented it first. And phew, did he do good job?

That is all

- Fins

When (day and date) is the UN vote on this resolution going to be finalized?

@ Chorizio: Voting Ends: Sun Oct 21 2007. (You find this out by clicking on "United Nations" in the panel on the left of your nation's home page. It's at the bottom of the proposal, under the tally of votes.)

... After all, why wasn't it deleted in the first place, if it would be so wrong. Trust me, I have a LENGTHY experience in failed proposals/resolutions. ...

Trust me, there was a LENGTHY debate that unfortunately led to the proposal's being approved. The explanation of why it wasn't deleted was given several times. Here's (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13115311&postcount=83) one:


((Will someone please explain to me how this doesn't violate UN rules))

It does. Hack and I missed it. Unfortunately, once it hits the floor, we can't kill it. It goes all the way through to a vote, so your best bet is to defeat it.


No breaking of the fourth wall in UN resolutions.

Textbook definition of "metagaming".

Now please, please, couldn't we just draw the Mystical Veil of Forgettery over this and get rid of the thing?

Ladies and gentlemen, and all you delegates and representatives as well I suppose, I rise to support this resolution's repeal and also to note that as my first official act in the UN I'm surprised to have this sudden promotion ... apparently I'll be a countertenor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countertenor) for the next few days. I doubt Queen Victoria would be amused but I am indeed a slave of duty.

<snip> warble <snip>

"With courage rare, and resolution manly,
For Death prepare, unhappy General Stanley!"

Oh, wait, we're on the same side. I withdraw my previous remark.

-- Bill Kelly, ArdchoilleaNS.

(OOC: Okay, challenge: which one's that from, and who said it?)

OoC: Pirates of Penzance

OOC: Kee-rect! My lovely assistant will now give you the fluffy pink rabbit! (Since you've got it in one, I won't hold out for the speaker.)

"With courage rare, and resolution manly,
For Death prepare, unhappy General Stanley!"
"No Englishman unmoved that statement hears,
Because, with all our faults, we love our House of Peers."

This repeal is useless...if one is to complain about wasting time and energy, they should stop doing it themself. The act has already passed and harms noone, so let it go...more time that could be used on other important issues is being wasted on this silly argument. If you don't want this to happen in the future, vote against it in the future. But do not be hypocritical and whine if you lose.

This repeal is useless...if one is to complain about wasting time and energy, they should stop doing it themself. The act has already passed and harms noone, so let it go...more time that could be used on other important issues is being wasted on this silly argument. If you don't want this to happen in the future, vote against it in the future. But do not be hypocritical and whine if you lose.

Undoing the mistakes of the past is never a waste of time.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

It gives me great pride to introduce to this honorable assembly the very latest Kennyrepeal™ to reach vote, one to strike out the metagamed nonsense of a resolution we passed barely a week ago. In the interests of time and consistency, I will not bother pointing out the serious breaches of protocol the original resolution enshrines into international law. In fact, as a subtle tribute to Max Barry Day's grave rules violations and gross illegalities, every single clause of this repeal is itself illegal. Allow me to demonstrate:

Commending Resolution #223's laudable purpose, to recognize truly great men and their achievements;This is praising a resolution that is resoundingly illegal; Resolution #223 had no "laudable purpose," and a case can be made that encouraging rules violations is illegal;

Duly congratulating this resolution's intended honoree on his many titles from coed beauty pageants throughout the NS world;Mentioning a daily issue, hence metagaming, and hence illegal; and citing the resolution's "intended honoree," who of course is Max Barry, who of course doesn't exist, except in daily issues; hence an RL violation and metagaming offense, and hence, doubly illegal;

Expressing its concern, however, that this resolution breaches the reasonable limits to which this body has traditionally held itself;An allusion to proposal rules; hence metagaming, and hence illegal;

Chagrined that amidst the many serious problems the world faces today, including war, terrorism, poverty, oppression, corruption, pestilence, disease, famine, malnourishment, starvation, taxes, illiteracy, substandard education, substandard sex education, imperial measurements, necrophilia, space junk, nations not labeling chemicals correctly, shortages of computers for schoolchildren, invisible tree people, shortages of computers for invisible tree schoolchildren, rampant ecclesiastical self-defenestration, and reluctance to eradicate the Arctocephalinae, the United Nations would actually pass a resolution declaring an international holiday for some dude who started a Website suggests that this institution's priorities are somewhat out of whack;No less than five of the listed items here can be construed as an ideological ban ("oppression" and "corruption," por ejemple, could seriously hamper the ability of dictatorships and tyrannies to function properly, and "ecclesiastical self-defenestration" of course attacks theocracies), and at least one item can be reasonably cited as plagiarism, for as we all know, wiping out fur seals in our lifetime has always been a Cobdenian ambition; and finally:

Randomly kicking ambassadors in the nuts for even thinking this proposal was a good idea,Introduces new legislation. Blatantly illegal.

Now I know for many of you this comes as a shock; many of you are likely re-evaluating your support for such an outrageous repeal -- some of you, doubtlessly, are mulling impeaching the moderators for allowing such an egregiously unlawful document to pass right under their noses -- but I beg you all to reconsider, for this legislation has one distinctly good quality: it's your one last chance to be naughty. It gives voters one final opportunity to bask in the euphoria of lawlessness and the thrill of unrestrained liberty before the repeal's intended target is sent sailing into that fiery abyss. You don't have to be good little boys and girls all of the time, you know.

...Go on, be a rebel. You know you want to.

Sammy Faisano
Ambassador to Ardchoille
Adviser to the Mission

you say that our priorities are out of order and yet you bring this up again. wasting more time on this issue when you clearly stated that you were more concerned with major issues. isn't that a little hypocritical? now instead of voting on and debating a major issue such as one of those you listed you instead created a repeal for an issue you think we've already wasted enough time on. why not create a resolution to fix those major issues instead since you're so concerned about them?

you say that our priorities are out of order and yet you bring this up again. wasting more time on this issue when you clearly stated that you were more concerned with major issues. isn't that a little hypocritical? now instead of voting on and debating a major issue such as one of those you listed you instead created a repeal for an issue you think we've already wasted enough time on. why not create a resolution to fix those major issues instead since you're so concerned about them?

All the delegates who write decent proposals are too hungover from the Max Barry day celebrations the night before

I've cast the vote of Karianis FOR this repeal. I refused to comment on the actual proposal when it was up for vote, quite disgusted by its very existence. And I applaud the Kennyite ambassador for this repeal.

Even if he's clearly insane. And while rebellion is fun, my queen would surely have me strung up for it. Thankfully, she won't ever hear a word of this...

Serifina hurries away, grateful for the fact that she's female. No nuts!

In my home region of The West Pacific I had originally stated during the original resolution that was voted into law last week that I would favor a repeal of this one right away.

I'm very sorry this particular repeal is the one to have come up first. I originally voted for, but after thinking about it more I have changed my vote to AGAINST.

You cannot repeal a repeal from our records. I think it's disgraceful the original proposal even made it to a vote. And I think it's more disgraceful this one did as well. This is two proposals out of the last three that have made it to a vote that are blatantly illegal. Do the rules even matter anymore around here?

I also find the language sexist as it assumes that random ambassadors are male and human (and/or of the category of being that its males would possess balls). I am very sadly changing my vote to against as the sexist language and illegalities contained within this proposal would always be a stain on the record that could never be changed.

For the sancticy and preservation of my balls,

AGAINST.

*falls over in a heap* OH MY BALLS~!

I will not be swayed...

*curls up in a fetal position*

@ Chorizio: Voting Ends: Sun Oct 21 2007. (You find this out by clicking on "United Nations" in the panel on the left of your nation's home page. It's at the bottom of the proposal, under the tally of votes.)



Trust me, there was a LENGTHY debate that unfortunately led to the proposal's being approved. The explanation of why it wasn't deleted was given several times. Here's (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13115311&postcount=83) one:



Now please, please, couldn't we just draw the Mystical Veil of Forgettery over this and get rid of the thing?

We can, and we shall.

You cannot repeal a repeal from our records.

Shadows of a shade! I think that past delegates and representatives have been using that old tired argument for years. It never worked for them, and it's doubtful it will work for you. Consider resolution #173 which equates in an unrepealable way trans-species relations with beastiality! Poor Mr. Spock was quite annoyed at the resolution and rightly so. But he got over it. You will too, one of these years.

In my home region of The West Pacific I had originally stated during the original resolution that was voted into law last week that I would favor a repeal of this one right away.

I'm very sorry this particular repeal is the one to have come up first. I originally voted for, but after thinking about it more I have changed my vote to AGAINST.

You cannot repeal a repeal from our records. I think it's disgraceful the original proposal even made it to a vote. And I think it's more disgraceful this one did as well. This is two proposals out of the last three that have made it to a vote that are blatantly illegal. Do the rules even matter anymore around here?

I also find the language sexist as it assumes that random ambassadors are male and human (and/or of the category of being that its males would possess balls). I am very sadly changing my vote to against as the sexist language and illegalities contained within this proposal would always be a stain on the record that could never be changed.

I too share the sentiments of the previous Ambasador. I also feel that the repeal is illegal, illegible and is proof that the motive of it's draftees is anything but what is set for in the purpose of this repeal. Not only that, but it is uterly distasteful to so swiftly introduce to this body a repeal for a resolution that is barely two weeks old.

Therefore, Zarquon Froods will not endorse this legislation nor any other act that demonstrates this amount of gross incompotence.

Drakeforde adamantly supports this repeal. Though it seems to be outrageous, Drakeforde feels compelled to support the repeal of the Max Barry Day resolution due to the fact that it arbitrarily celebrates a miniscule accomplishment (the exist of which has yet to be proven).

For all those who are worried about the consequences that might result from the ludicrous statements that comprise the repeal, I urge you to consider that the only REAL purpose that this repeal will serve is to strike null and void the Max Barry day resolution.

And if a few people have to take a random blows to the genitals, well, that should serve as basis for people to consider their proposals before they submit something as idiotic as "Max Barry Day".

We are proud to have cast our vote in favour of repealing this steaming pile of excrecense. Even if we haven't been in so much pain since the incident on the School Rugby Field which is Not Talked About.

Akimonad, having found this InstaRepeal™ to be QuiteAgreeable™, we hereby affix our DelegateVote™ to the For section of this InstaRepeal™.

Now, let's all head off to the StrangersBar™ for some RefreshingBeverages™.

Dr. Jules Hodz,
RegionalDelegate™, Conservative Paradise

can someone please tell me how this makes sense. In this proposal he mentions how he thinks its wrong that the original proposal was made while the time could have been better spent making a proposal to deal with something that 'truly matters'. OS his response to such a proposal, he makes a repeal proposal to get rid of an international holiday, thereby wasting his and everyone else's time voting on it, instead of creating a proposal against one of those things he finds truly important.

like those darn invisible tree people and the Arctocephalinae?

oh and incase people were wondering, Arctocephalinae is also known as the fur seal, and seals are such big problems nowdays, arnt they.

Although we are totaly for repealing the insane resolution about Max Barry, we are also wondering how come the mods, so all about the rules all the time, have not deleted this proposal for its offensive language.
Apparently there are equal and more equal within the UN...

Look at the score!!! 1233 for, 1232 against... that will be interesting...

In hopes of saving a national holiday, I have cast my vote AGAINST! I am safe, as I have no balls which to kick.

Look at the score!!! 1233 for, 1232 against... that will be interesting...

We just gave the FORs a little bit of a better lead. We can't believe the vote is anywhere near this close.

Vance Aceon
Deputy Presiding Jevian UN Representative

firstly i must say i apove the re-apeal

however something makes me laf.

you said the un was wastin time by passing the resoltion 4 the national holiday

you then prosed to wast another 5 days or so geting it kicked out again instead of one of the below that u so rightly listed

"war, terrorism, poverty, oppression, corruption, pestilence, disease, famine, malnourishment, starvation, taxes, illiteracy, substandard education, substandard sex education, imperial measurements, necrophilia, space junk, nations not labeling chemicals correctly, shortages of computers for schoolchildren, invisible tree people, shortages of computers for invisible tree schoolchildren, rampant ecclesiastical self-defenestration, and reluctance to eradicate the Arctocephalinae"

your logic is ... questionable

can someone please tell me how this makes sense. In this proposal he mentions how he thinks its wrong that the original proposal was made while the time could have been better spent making a proposal to deal with something that 'truly matters'. OS his response to such a proposal, he makes a repeal proposal to get rid of an international holiday, thereby wasting his and everyone else's time voting on it, instead of creating a proposal against one of those things he finds truly important.We're Officially Sick of this argument. Our time isn't being wasted on this; yours is. You're the idiots who made this mess, and we're asking you to clean it up. That's not a "waste of time"; it's common courtesy. You wouldn't be in this trouble if you'd just voted in line with the rules... which clearly say UNR223 is illegal.

incase people were wondering, Arctocephalinae is also known as the fur seal,...Really? I had no idea!

...and seals are such big problems nowdays, arnt they.Indeed, and you should be down on your knees, thanking Cobdenia for alerting us to this threat before it was too late! Without Sir Cyril, we're all lost.

We just gave the FORs a little bit of a better lead.Thanks, Jey dude! You win a kick to the nuts! *koink!*

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

In hopes of saving a national holiday, I have cast my vote AGAINST! I am safe, as I have no balls which to kick.

Repealing this resolution will not result in you being forced to abolish Max Barry Day as your national holiday.

Why do so many people find this simple fact so difficult to understand?


Julien Quan,
Deputy Ambassador to the United Nations,
Wearing a coconut-shell nut-protector,
PDSRA

Sadly, this resolution is necessary. Goobergunchia votes for the repeal.

Also, I'm glad that I have a nice steel ball-protector.

Darren Funkel
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Sponsor, "Outlaw Pedophilia"

Don't hurt me, man! I voted against! My Ambassador to the UN liked it, but he passed out from the vodka ages ago, so he's basically on extended compassionate leave. I voted against the thing first time around, honest!

(I vote in favour of this repeal.)

Let me keep my nuts!

[OOC: Some of delegates who voted against are beginning to change their votes, thanks to a telegram campaign. I must urge supporters of this repeal NOT to telegram delegates who have already cast votes. If their inboxes start to fill up with multiple appeals to change their votes, they might get turned off and vote against anyway. Thank you!]

Dr. Hodz cracks his knuckles.

This is going to be an exciting debate. Who else wants to assist in defenestrations? Bob? Felix? Maybe Susa. I'd like to see how he defenestrates people.

~Dr. Jules Hodz
RegionalDelegate™, Conservative Paradise

Without interrupting the delegate who had the podium at that moment, a young man approached and proceded to paste an advertisement onto the wall behind the speaker. He then smiled to himself, apparently satisfied, and wandered off as anonymously as he had come.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7273/nkbpastedrl0.png

Upon closer inspection, the advertisement proved to be particularly topical:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6286/nutkickabustaeo1.png

'By order of jadda, jadda, jadda' *OH! MY NUTS!*
Well, it was definitely worth it. I said I would approve of this repeal the moment I saw it come to vote and I have done accordingly.

Sadly, this resolution is necessary. Goobergunchia votes for the repeal.

Also, I'm glad that I have a nice steel ball-protector.

Darren Funkel
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Sponsor, "Outlaw Pedophilia"

Ah, a fellow member of the "I'm wearing a steel cup club."

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

The Asylum Manager;13143793']<snip>

Normally, I don't care for Jolt's addition of the prefix [NS] on nations, but this one somehow seems appropriate.

I have to admit i agree with the reasons in the repeal, the UN does have better things to worry about. But i can't ignore the fact that the repeal contradicts itself by once again making Max Berry Day resolution the center of everyone's attention. why repeal a useless resolution that hardly effects anyone when we could be analyzing more important issues......Duh.
:headbang:

But i can't ignore the fact that the repeal contradicts itself by once again making Max Berry Day resolution the center of everyone's attention. why repeal a useless resolution that hardly effects anyone when we could be analyzing more important issues......Duh.Been asked; been answered ... moving on ...

Those in charge of trying to pass this repeal sound even more ignorant than I fear they are. When will you realize that you need to focus on practicality over ideals when it comes to accomplishing things in the world? Yes, perhaps the world won't be perfect, but if you base your actions and opinions upon your values and goals, and apply them practically, you will achieve far more than you could otherwise. I honestly have very little opinion one way or the other on the specific issue at hand, but I cannot show support for such blatant hipocricy. I must also express my displeasure at the irrational and inappropriate manner in which the proposed repeal is phrased.

Jaris Krytellin walks into the GA, flanked by several Royal Guardsmen wheeling a large device with a black cover on it into the room.

Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to re-introduce myself to those of you who may know me, and introduce myself for the first time to those of you who may not. I'm Jaris Krytellin. I was once an ambassador here for Altanar, then Prime Minister, and now I'm back here as an advisor. I've been listening to some of the arguments against this repeal, and I'm sad to see that not much has changed in these hallowed halls since the last time I was here. But I digress.

As this repeal effort seems to involve much punting of the testicles, allow me to present a device that the Altanari military hopes will make things much easier.

Jaris whips the black cover off the device, revealing a large machine with several wheels attached, with several military-issue combat boots attached to each wheel.

This is the Altanari Nut-Kicker, version 1.0. We hope the supporters of this repeal will put it to much good use, namely by lodging the testicles of its opponents into a comfortable place somewhere near their tonsils.

And for anyone contemplating giving any members of the Altanari delegation a swift kick in the jimmy, go right ahead. We're all wearing standard-issue, mil-spec Royal Altanari Defense Force BallGuards. Because as anyone who lives in a monarchy knows, sometimes you just gotta protect the royal jewels.

As if on cue, the five guards who rolled the device in take a sharp jab at their crotches, in unison. A resounding *THWACK* can be heard throughout the entire GA. The guards grin widely.

Our For vote has been noted in the UN.
Six days will remain after voting closes until the date of Subistratica's scheduled withdrawal from the UN. I have asked the members of the Council of Nevesá that voted to withdraw to reconsider, but they will not retract their vote, so the withdrawal still stands.

The voting seemed close when I cast, but there were more votes For, so hopefully this repeal will be passed.

Good day.

Eros Tatriel
UN Rep. for Subistratica

People think about this for 2 seconds. Max Barry created Nationstates. He sort of founded the entire game, right? What is the big deal with recognizing him for all that he did?
I mean, sure it's not exactly what the game is about, but this could be like a world wide holiday. Think of this like Christmas holiday at school. So what if you have a Christmas vacation from school, even though we have a separation of church and state? It doesn't keep with the point of the country either. The real point is that it's just for fun, to sort of give everyone a good time.
But isn't that exactly what Max Barry Day is; just a day to honor someone special so that we can say "thanks," and have a good time with it.
Think of why you play nationstates, for fun. This is just for fun. Why can't you all just accept it?
Don't repeal Max Barry Day!!! :rolleyes:

Those in charge of trying to pass this repeal sound even more ignorant than I fear they are. When will you realize that you need to focus on practicality over ideals when it comes to accomplishing things in the world? Yes, perhaps the world won't be perfect, but if you base your actions and opinions upon your values and goals, and apply them practically, you will achieve far more than you could otherwise. I honestly have very little opinion one way or the other on the specific issue at hand, but I cannot show support for such blatant hipocricy. I must also express my displeasure at the irrational and inappropriate manner in which the proposed repeal is phrased.

The alledged sound of ignorance frequently turns out to be the sound of anger, and in this case we can assure the honoured ambassador that it is such. Anger that the practicalities of this august assemblage have been abused, anger that sheer idiocy and misinformation were allowed to rule the day at vote, and anger that even now, nations that have had the bare-faced check to stand up in this assembly still refuse to acknowledge the illegalities of their own action in voting for the original proposal. That is the hypocrisy in this chamber, sir, not some high-flown moral theory that has not even been applied correctly to this situation.

This repeal is practical action against an abomination that deserves nothing but opprobrium, and I commend it and a solid jock-strap to all.

Four Motown backup singers in bright green sequined dresses take their positions next to the Rubinan desk.

Hit it girls.
You know they’re bad, they’re bad—you know it.
The Kennyites.
So bad, they’ll do it, won’t drool it.
Cause they’re bad, so bad—you know it.
Disrespectful, foul-mouthed, and lecherous
Bad to the bone (whoops wrong song)
And the whole world has to
Acknowledge right now
Woo!
Just to tell you once again.
They’re bad, real bad, who’s bad?
The repealinating bastards of Omigodtheykilledkenny!

Yes, those bad boys of the UN are back at it again. Kicking nuts and taking names, repealing the unrepealable, at least with any luck.

Bad, bad—really, really bad.

For those delegates who maintain it’s hypocritical to waste the UN’s time repealing a resolution because it was a waste of time, there are very real and very good reasons to repeal this tripe. Young proposal writers are often urged to review preexisting resolutions for lessons in style, substance and rules adherrance. How in the world can we do so with straight faces when such blatant garbage as “Max Barry Day” resides as a shining example of a proposal that deserved an early abortion.

Disrespectful, foul-mouthed, and lecherous

The language of the resolution at vote has come up for some criticism from diplomatically inclined delegates. We urge them to re-examine the text. Despite phrases that are more comfortable in fraternity houses than international bodies of diplomacy, there is nothing in this repeal that upstanding nations can not get behind.

Bad, they’re bad—

Okay girls, that’s enough, we get the idea. Your ta-tas are needed elsewhere.

As for the noted illegalities of the repeal, we believe those have been severely overstated by the Kennyites to enhance their image. The show-offs.

We have voted FOR the repeal and urge others to do so as well. Holding up a bag of nuts, we’d also like to thank whoever it was that cracked our nuts.

Leetha Talone
UN chaka-chaka-boom-boom Ambassador

Whilst sitting in my office, pondering the meaning of life, the universe and everything, I came to an interesting conclusion. We acknowledge that Max Barry has created this world. If the resolution is past that Max barry not be celebrated, we just as well tell the school systems to teach our children that the world was created by the Flying Spagetti Monster of Quagmire 18. I urge the delegates to vote against for our childrens sake.

And as far as the safety of certain parts of our anatomy. Wear a protective device, and be sure to have your steel toe shoes ready to go on the offensive.

I yield.

Would someone please inform the ambassador from Zarquon Froods that even if this repeal passes they can still teach their children that Max Barry created the world. In fact their right to do so is enshrined in the UN Educational Aid Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11663193&postcount=172).

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

...have been repeals of the two votes before that. couldn't a little bit of this be solved with better planning? i really enjoy voting, but this is just silly. i'm thinking of proposing a "no rediculous vascillating bill." who would vote for that?

I thank Mr. Flibble for the document.

ooc: Sorry if I come off as annoying. I'm still getting the hang of things.

*snip*[OOC: Oh that post is soooooo going in the wiki entry! :D]

[As the Rubinan ladies begin to sing, Susa jumps from his chair, and starts dancing for the assembly. Luckily he was raised on Michael Jackson. Moonwalking across the aisle, he comes upon the New Avarinian section, where Susa suddenly punctuates his jig with a swift kick to their ambassador's Fun Zone:]

OOMPH!

[He goes down.

[Susa proceeds to dance around the assembly floor, along the way visiting the delegation for Iunctum...]

UGH!

[Zarquon Foods...]

AUGH!

[Kitty Meow-Meow...]

WREEEEEOW!

[Nergs...]

OI!

[Five and Twenty...]

EEEEEEK!

[and Blue Footed Bobbies...]

OWWW!

[His performance finally returns him to his seat, where he mouths the words "Who's bad?" and promptly sits down.

[Perpetuating Liberty (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13144192&postcount=192)'s table blows up.]

(Oops.)

Zarquon Froods, here's another document you might find handy.

*expertly makes paper plane*'

It's an index of past UN resolutions (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Index_of_UN_Resolutions) sorted by subject.

Gigantic Black Dudes, this one's up for repeal because it's been declared illegal, but we can't get rid of it any other way.

You'll also find repeals of early resolutions coming up because, back in the day, the UN was all sweet and unsophisticated about how it phrased its resolutions -- fine principles but not so fine execution. So it's not all just ping-pong repeals.

That's why it's smart to try out a proposal in draft form here before submitting it; it's a bit of repeal-proofing (not that you can guarantee that, ever).

We now return you to our scheduled program ...

The Biter monkeys find this repeal highly amusing and will support it. We respectfully ask that we aren't kicked in the nuts, as we don't have any. We would find any attempts towards this action to be NOT amusing

You are all among the saddes of men. "Metagaming"? Wow. Fun has died in this place (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=funprohibitedfq6.jpg).

You are all among the saddes of men. "Metagaming"? Wow. Fun has died in this place (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=funprohibitedfq6.jpg).

::Looks at AA::
::Looks at OMGTKK::
::Looks back at AA::
::Considers which one is actually funny::
No.

I dunno man... he linked to a picture... height of comedy, right there.

Its just truely outrageous, We just voted on to pass this a week ago. Of course its goging to be passed. It seems everything that is voted on is passed. Evean if it is really stupid it is passed. I think some people dont evean read what is in the topic at all and just click For. It rarly seems anything good is passed anyway, its alyways somthing stupid.

Why would you want to repeal this resoultion. Either away I think my country should be able to choose if I want to celebrate this or not. Just wake up and vote on what u really want because in my opinion we have allot of nations just voting yes on everything. Its rarly a close race on for and aginst.

Why would you want to repeal this resoultion. Either away I think my country should be able to choose if I want to celebrate this or not.

That's exactly what will happen if we repeal it.

Julien Quan,
Deputy Ambassador to the United Nations,
PDSRA

Why would you want to repeal this resoultion. Either away I think my country should be able to choose if I want to celebrate this or not. Because the subject of the repeal was garbage when it was proposed, garbage when it made quorum and garbage when it passed. (What was that about people not reading?) It could remain on the books for a million years and still be garbage.

--L.T.

well if tis garbage, then it doesn't really matter does it? so why do you want it to go so badly, there is simply nothing to be mad at. And I'm wearing a cup, so you can keep on kicking, but eventually i gonan get tired and kick you back.

well if tis garbage, then it doesn't really matter does it? so why do you want it to go so badly, there is simply nothing to be mad at. And I'm wearing a cup, so you can keep on kicking, but eventually i gonan get tired and kick you back.

Oh, by the gods and goddesses....

YES, it does matter if it's garbage. The UN should not be passing resolutions that are garbage. Ever heard of the word "laughingstock"? Look it up if you're not familiar with it, because that's exactly what delegations that write and support crap legislation turn the UN into.

Jaris Krytellin, Advisor, Altanari UN Mission

Good Afternoon, Ladies and Gentlemen... and Others...
I find myself here, adressing you all for the first time, because my nation's ambassador is worried -- or so he says, anyway -- that some of the harder-of-thinking 'diplomats' present might think that the term "Arctocephalinae" means 'people wearing penguin costumes' (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11055088&highlight=penguin#post11055088) and try to eradicate him.
My government supports this repeal.
Thank you for your attention.


Aphra Daniels DPhil,
Chief Cnicht (i.e. 'First Secretary'),
Mission to the United Nations
for
The Protectorate of The St Edmundan Antarctic.
(No penguin costume... and no 'nuts', either...)

I don't understand how much NON-SUPPORT this repeal is garnering. I mean, I'm starting to believe there really ARE UN Drones that operate here.


(Or Ambassadors of low orders are sending telegram campaigns saying "OH NOEZ!!!1! TEH TAKING ALL ARE PROPOSAL!!1!!1")


Hector, Prince Infante de Genosha.

I don't understand how much NON-SUPPORT this repeal is garnering........


Hector, Prince Infante de Genosha.

Sen.Sulla looks up from his serious contemplation of a glass of Wild Turkey(TM) on the rocks and says,
"Your Highness, as the esteemed comedian Ron White would say, You can't fix stupid."

Anyway the Palentine would like to officially go on the record for being for this repeal, and offer congradulations to the Kennyite delegation for adding some frivolity and enjoyment to this festering snakepit....err.... debate hall. No to more important matters."
With that Sen Sulla reaches behind his desk and pulls out a sign that says
FREE THE THESSADORIANS!!!!!. He then places the sign on the front of his desk, and smiles unwholesomely.

I do not get this body;

Though I am no fan of the "We got too much time on our hands to take care of REAL issues!" crowd, I can honestly say why can't we honor the man, for without whom, NS would not exist? This is not defending nonsense, it is simply a "Thank You!" to Mr. Barry. SO, why not leave the law in place, and go solve other problems?

Regards,
HRH Raymond I

*clears her throat*

While I may not agree with the wording of the Resolution to Repeal, I do agree wholeheartedly with its intent. There is no need for UN Regulation on this matter. The Peoples of Aligator already have enough on their plate without being forced to honor a man many of them do not believe to be in existence.
I believe it's for the good of all our nations to choose holidays on their own.
In my opinion the Original Proposition AND the ensuing Repeal are naught but detaining us all from our intended purpose... and that is passing laws that benefit our home nations and (wo)man kind.

Thank you.

*takes a deep breath and quickly retreats to her chair in the far left corner of the room*

*takes out a notepad to report misconduct of one "Lukes Pope"... ties note to rare Homing Chinchilla and sets it loose to Administration*

You know, I've never defenestrated anyone yet, but it gives me great pleasure to give the honourable and mellifluous representative of Lukes Pope a hearty shove out of the window.

*does so*

Christophe Boco,
Ambassador to the United Nations

Jaris looks over at the Royal Guards standing next to the Altanari Nut-Kicker.

The representative of Lukes Pope appears to hail from a nation that doesn't invest enough money in education. Pity, that. Shall we educate him, men?

The guards nod eagerly, and set the Nut-Kicker next to the door to the GA. When the Lukes Pope representative returns from his unceremonious defenestration, they hurl him into the Nut-Kicker, and set the device to "high".

I'd say about thirty minutes in there ought to learn him plenty. Either that, or prevent him from reproducing ever. Either way, the international community wins. Yay for diplomacy!

Minister Gao is a palpable shade of green.

Oh, dear me. I think my lunch is disagreeing with me. And my nose feels terrible. Please excuse me.

He runs to the window and vomits. And then hoists himself up on the ledge and defecates. And then bleeds copiously from his nose. This proceeds for some time. Finally, he pulls himself together. He notes a body on the ground below.

Oh, my. I believe I've just desecrated that young man's corpse.

Benedictions,

i find it strange that we are repealing a resolution like this i mean really on this websit MAX BARRY is GOD because he can delete you if he wants to i vote AGAINST. It also seems you find pleasure in touching my nuts go away:upyours:

"Ok, this is getting ridiculous," Wolfgang said. He then pulled out a rusty pair of hedge clippers. "Kicking them obviously isn't doing enough for some people."

The colony's national government does not support this repeal.

The colony's national government does not support this repeal.

OOC: Would you care to tell us why not?

(OOC also... me'thinks that the "game" of this all is getting clouded on some minds. Wouldn't it be loverly if people could RP properly... Max Barry is a RL person, and while he may be the "creator" of all this fun and whoopla, paying homage to him seems insufferably silly. Not to mention out of context of it all. Note to all reading this and planning a flame war... stop. I'm saying all this to save you all the pain and suffering. NEVER argue with an Idiot... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with their experience... just flag the inappropriateness and move on. kthxbai)


IC: Dear me... It must be time for drinks! *skeedattles down to the pub*

The Wolf Guardians;13145853']"Ok, this is getting ridiculous," Wolfgang said. He then pulled out a rusty pair of hedge clippers. "Kicking them obviously isn't doing enough for some people."

And i thought defenstration was still the most effective lesson... ah well.

(against, btw, and the TSP feeder is 8-0 for passage of this resolution. Though not all feeders are voting this way it seems.)

-snip-

OOC: Um, flaming?

IC: After the delegate from Lukes Pope had been defenestrated, desecrated and de-nutted, Dr. Hodz had something special.

A large lorry backed into the GA, a naval gun on the trailer.

Several guards from the Akimonadi UN Mission grab the delegate and force him into the naval gun.

"Fire in the hole!" Dr. Hodz says, pulling a lever. The delegate is thrown out of the gun with tremendous force, sails through a wall, and lands somewhere near Glog's cave.

-snip-

The guards grab the delegate from Good bacon and shove him into the gun. He is lobbed onto the delegate from Lukes Pope by the rather large gun.

"I think we'll call this the Delegate Removal Acceleration Tool, or DRAT for short. Who would like the keys to use it?"

~Dr. Jules Hodz

i find it strange that we are repealing a resolution like this i mean really on this websit MAX BARRY is GOD because he can delete you if he wants to i vote AGAINST. It also seems you find pleasure in touching my nuts go away:upyours:

OOC: Umm... as far as we can tell, "Max Barry" doesn't exist on "this websit", and I don't think he can delete us if he wants. And no one has expressed any wish to touch your nuts, so get over yourself.

IC:
I just checked the voting, and the For votes are slightly ahead!
Maybe we actually changed some peoples' minds...
Or, more likely, we're right to assume that most people will vote For without actually reading the proposal... especially since the one that created this dumb holiday had so many votes For it.

Good day.

Eros Tatriel
UN Rep. for Subistratica

People think about this for 2 seconds. Max Barry created Nationstates. He sort of founded the entire game, right? What is the big deal with recognizing him for all that he did?
I mean, sure it's not exactly what the game is about, but this could be like a world wide holiday. Think of this like Christmas holiday at school. So what if you have a Christmas vacation from school, even though we have a separation of church and state? It doesn't keep with the point of the country either. The real point is that it's just for fun, to sort of give everyone a good time.
But isn't that exactly what Max Barry Day is; just a day to honor someone special so that we can say "thanks," and have a good time with it.
Think of why you play nationstates, for fun. This is just for fun. Why can't you all just accept it?
Don't repeal Max Barry Day!!! :rolleyes:


:sniper:
OOC--> Read the forum posts for the repeal and also the forum posts for the actual Max Barry Day proposal. Doing so will prevent you or anyone else from asking this stupid question again and again. All we have is an illiterate asking a question which is answered quite well by several dozens of people, and then another illiterate asks the same question again. And on and on it continues.

You think Max Barry's game is great? How can you say that if you ignore the rules of the game he invented? You want to honor Max Barry? Buy his book, he sacrificed a marketing campaign to invent this game, so honor his efforts with that, not by ignoring the rules. Maybe to save the extra typing for all the ones who want to answer the next illiterate who asks once again why would we want to repeal, well just copy paste this and use this answer.... (it will save us precious minutes to answer the latest fool who wandered in the UN by arrogance):mp5:

The offensive post has been removed and the poster dealt with. So give it a rest, mkay?

EDIT: related to earlier flame, not related to understandable exasperation at those who haven't figured out why the repeal exists.

The offensive post has been removed and the poster dealt with. So give it a rest, mkay?

EDIT: related to earlier flame, not related to understandable exasperation at those who haven't figured out why the repeal exists.

Huzzah to Ardcoille for dealing with the flame!

Huzzah to the Kennyites for this wonderful appeal and its strong support! We've got a lead and I'd like to keep it that way.

The United Kingdom of Brutland and Norden happily votes FOR the repeal. We are also happy to tell that support for the repeal is overwhelming in the South Pacific's forum (currently, the vote on the forum stands at 9-0 in favor of the repeal).

Thank you.

Adam di Sadalucco
The Translator at the Nord-Brutlandese Mission to the UN

PS. Please don't kick me in the nuts. I want to have children someday.

Man dis shit is funny, i made a resolution and it created all this shit. If you guys didnt want it y didnt you ask the administrator to take it off.

Man dis shit is funny, i made a resolution and it created all this shit. If you guys didnt want it y didnt you ask the administrator to take it off.
Had you made any effort to participate in your thread, you'd have known why. Then again, had you made any effort to read the rules, you'd have never posted the damn thing in the first place.

The Government of Genosha officially doesn't recognize the representative or the country of Dannie E Bolden.
Moreover, I urge other states to do the same.


Hector, Prince Infante de Genosha

Hahaha! Oh, you amateurs! Defenestrating people! Like that'll accomplish anything. The speakers are but mindless mouthpieces for their governments. Don't defenestrate the messengers; defenestrate the governments, that'll stop 'em! Better yet, defenestrate the microphones! We wouldn't be able to hear them otherwise!

*seizes Dannie E Bolden's microphone*

*randomly grabs at neighboring microphones*

*tosses them out the window*

*pats hands*

Done and done. But why stop there? Defenestrate the translators too; then we won't be able to understand any of the idiotic bullshit these fucknuts are saying!

*grabs Dannie E Boldenite translator by the shirt front*

*hurls out window*

*looks innocent at the explosion that just "happened" to go off outside at the same time translator landed*

There now! Ya see? Now everything Dannie E Bolden says will only sound like gibberish to the rest of us ... though I doubt many will know the difference.

*walks back to his station*

*kicks Dr. Hodz in the nuts*

*kicks Sammy in the nuts*

*sits*

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations

The Government of Genosha officially doesn't recognize the representative or the country of Dannie E Bolden.
Moreover, I urge other states to do the same.


Hector, Prince Infante de Genosha

Oh, every single person from that country (including their representatives) have already been banned from Altanar, under the "Stupidity So Severe It Hurts" clause of our immigration laws.

Jaris Krytellin, Advisor

Had you made any effort to participate in your thread, you'd have known why. Then again, had you made any effort to read the rules, you'd have never posted the damn thing in the first place.

-applause-
Funny how, out of all of the people to speak their minds, we haven't heard from that character since he posted the stupid resolution in the first place.
It's HIM that we should be attacking!

^^ i am still for a max barry day under the context of honoring the max barry within the NationStates for the reasons i listed in the original resolution. however i would like to point out that i am against the max barry day honoring the person who created the so called website.

i wondered how the item we are voting to repeal passed in the first place considering that it is outside the boundary of the rules of the UN and NationStates as i believe i read rightly. such person as max barry, creator of the so called website does not exist thusfar this so called max barry day honors a fictional character that does not exist and has no noteworthy accomplishment.

for the utter stupidity of posting the original resolution and not following up on his/her/it/whatchamacallit/thing's own post i hereby follow the example of notable fellow UN members and refuse to recognize the nation of Dannie E. Bolden.

i also urge that every nation to maintain order and line up, one by one and release your stress by kicking the representative of the nation of Dannie E. Bolden in the groin with studded, steel capped boots.

This is really painful, but ... no more "we ignore him too" posts, please. No more inventive means of retaliation. Nothing, nada, nix.

This does not imply any criticism of the people who have already posted along those lines. It's just to avoid a couple of pages that would have to be trawled through before people were able to resume the debate.

He's new, he goofed, we all goofed, we're dealing with it. And yes, Kenny, you're right, I'm no fun any more.:(

IC: *While resuming seat, Dicey Reilly accidentally and randomly kicks Amb Susa Batko-Yovino in the nuts. Purely in the interests of balance, of course.*

It's a conspiracy!! :eek:

Max Barry lovers have hacked into the UN's computer records and deleted the resolution at vote! It's true! Don't believe me? Have a look (www.nationstates.net/page=un)!

Every single nation opposed to Repeal "Max Barry Day" is now a cyber-terror suspect! All members are urged to capture any of them you find, detain them, and turn them over to Cdr. Chiang for questioning! This is a matter of UN and international security!

Hang them high! Hang them high!

Kick them in the nuts!

[OOC: Without fail, there is always some technical clusterfuck when one of my resolutions is at vote! Edit: n/m; crisis averted. Hail Salusa!]

What a waste of time, I am so bored of the U.N. all we do is repeal old laws or rehash the funny ones. Will we be making another pointless and boring resolution next week? Possibly to repeal the repeal Max Barry day resolution?

Yeah, you should probably resign then.

I agree with him^^

i'd like to point out the fact that in the real world we celebrate people who have discovered or affected different, important things throughout history. for example: we have a columbus day to celebrate someone who we believe discovered the USA. so why not have a day of celebration for a man who "discovered" this world?

hear hear!

any of these people who take this seriously enough to argue over a silly day like max barry day have no lives.

just let the day stand, you don't need to revoke it seeing how it's causing no harm to anyone and isnt disrupting any one government's functions

hear hear!

any of these people who take this seriously enough to argue over a silly day like max barry day have no lives.

just let the day stand, you don't need to revoke it seeing how it's causing no harm to anyone and isnt disrupting any one government's functions

Hooray! I completely agree...

WHY BOTHER repealing Max Barry Day (which is a perfectly fine holiday - not even compulsory...!!), O-suggestor-of-this-repeal, when you can use that time to create a resolution to resolve one of those issues that you JUST MENTIONED!??

The official Akimonad calendar has been changed. Today is now Max Barry Day, and will be celebrated accordingly.

*takes out a small pennant flag with Max Barry's picture on it*

Yay Max Barry.

*burns the flag*

That is all. Let's get this piece of garbage repealed so I never have to do that again.

~Dr. Jules Hodz

Ylatia, Aissurus, Icefloris, it would have been ... nice ... if you'd taken the trouble to read all the way back as far as, oh, I dunno, maybe six posts, to find out why this repeal exists.

Here's an extract from a recent explanation, edited to remove most of the exasperation about having to say this over and over:

... it is outside the boundary of the rules of the UN and NationStates as i believe i read rightly. such person as max barry, creator of the so called website does not exist thusfar this so called max barry day honors a fictional character that does not exist ...

People aren't repealing it just because they don't want to honour Max Barry, that well-known beauty contestant (which is what he is in the NS world).

It's technically illegal. It does things UN resolutions aren't allowed to do. It got through the approval process by mistake, and now it's automatically coded in so deeply that the admins would have to fiddle insanely with the code to remove it, so the only way to get rid of this illegal resolution is to repeal it.

Well it took 3 years, but this game is finally getting interesting! XD I can't wait to see what happens next.

:upyours:well thats useful i can now get rid of the idiots on my staff for punishment by making them my messengers causing them to be attacked, kicked and denutified. Thats right president of the dumb person society you will deliver my mesage

Hello. The regular Sagitian ambassador is on leave. Something about preserving his nuts. Anyway, I'm always in favor of new holidays, but my boss said I had to vote for this repeal. Said something about it being an illegal piece of <untranslatable> I hate losing holidays. :(

Nonnac Redof, junior assistant to the Sagit ambassador.

*While resuming seat, Dicey Reilly accidentally and randomly kicks Amb Susa Batko-Yovino in the nuts. Purely in the interests of balance, of course.*Susa barely had time to react as the witch approached, her gaze seemingly gleaming with vengeful fury -- Sammy had indeed warned Susa about her, and and he still wasn't ready -- and yet, as he painfully grasped at his throbbing, formerly royal jewels, he couldn't help but look after her with astonished awe, an admiring grin, and a thrilling realization, as he regained his composure: What a woman!


A short while later...

WHY BOTHER repealing Max Barry Day ... , O-suggestor-of-this-repeal, when you can use that time to create a resolution to resolve one of those issues that you JUST MENTIONED!??Why bother? Dude, I don't need a fucking resolution to help resolve some of the issues mentioned in this repeal!

[As though to demonstrate, he strides over to the Iceflorian envoy, grabs him by the arm and yanks him toward Altanar's Nut-Kicker™. Kicking the Iceflorian inside it, he sets the dial to "Reproductive Impairment" mode, and stands calmly by as he waits for the machine to wind into gear. He notices Jaris sitting not very far away, and acknowledges him with a friendly nod:]

'Sup, man? You don't mind if I use this a minute, do you?

Susa Batko-Yovino
Ambassador to the United Nations