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Passed: Protection of Dolphins Act [Official Topic] - Page 2

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Shaan-xi
09-06-2005, 21:18
I'm sorry to be so blunt, but this resolution is a pointless, interfering, nonsensical piece of rubbish.
Funky Evil
09-06-2005, 21:19
It seems nearly everyone here is voting againstn the resolution, and yet it's winning by a comfortable magin?

What's going on?
Sparren
09-06-2005, 21:21
People don't want to go against the tide. Therefore, everyone who is voting for the resolution is not speaking up.

Besides which, I believe many UN Delegates are making unwise choices, and they are the ones who wield the most power.
Encia
09-06-2005, 22:25
Dolphins are probably the most intelligent animal in the world.They are believed to telepathic,and there is good evidence to support that.They are innocent living things just trying to survive in a harsh nature that humans make worse.
Sparren
09-06-2005, 22:28
I propose that you are going too far. By messing with the dolphins, you're making it worse, by your own statement.

So why interfere?

Besides which, if you're going to say that dolphins are "innocent living things" and therefore should be protected, shut down all the zoos and butcheries and organic food shops and... well, for that matter, stop your nation from making paper. Trees are innocent living things, too.
Roathin
09-06-2005, 22:58
Whales are dolphins too????? So, humans are cats, by that line of thinking.
Greetings.

We refer you to this tome of wisdom (http://www.cetacea.org/orca.htm) in which the killer whale, Orcinus orca, is specifically described as the largest of the dolphin family. Homo sapiens, however, has never been a member of clan Felidae, despite their millennia-long association.
Dramania
09-06-2005, 23:53
See this is why We cannot support this resolution, we love to eat dolphin....




Grilled Mustard-Crusted Dolphin

8 oz. Dolphin Fillets
Salt And Pepper -- to taste
2 Tbsp Butter -- melted
4 Tbsp Dijon Mustard
1/2 C Bread Crumbs
1 Oz Chopped Fresh Herbs
2 Tbsp Mustard Seeds

Season dolphin with salt and pepper; rub with a little melted butter; reserve remaining butter.

Over very hot grill (500°) cook dolphin only until grill marks appear. Remove from grill at once.

Rub Dijon mustard on filet; top with mixture of remaining butter, bread crumbs, fresh herbs and mustard seeds. Bake in oven at 350° until dolphin is brown on top and moist in center.

Makes 2 servings.
Renias
09-06-2005, 23:59
This is the worst resolution!!! Whoever came up with this one is :confused: !! Now my nation is going to become a treehugger state!
Renias
10-06-2005, 00:03
Wow, that dolphin recipe looks good. Really good. So good that I want to go whaling for dolphins or dolphining for dolphins!!
Roathin
10-06-2005, 00:19
Greetings.

We have tried for a long time to repress our gastronomic disapproval. However, there are far too many of our colleagues who seem to think that basting or marinading or coating dolphin steaks with butter is a good thing. It is not. Dolphin meat is greasy enough as it is, and that is why it will not develop the lovely caramelized crunchy bits that a good steak will, should butter be rubbed into it. Rather, it will tend to become something like a bastardized hybrid between mutton and fish, instead of the tender chicken it might otherwise resemble. The Arcadian style of cooking is far better for cetaceans.
Anarchy Island 99
10-06-2005, 01:30
does this apply to Mahi Mahi (dolphin fish) in which case our great nation will fight to the death against this resolution. Great ntions of the world throw your support against this resolution. No good can come from it. I urge all nations to get out and vote, have your regional delegate vote against this.
Greater Boblandia
10-06-2005, 01:39
After seeing the kind of state that discussion on this resolution has devolved into, Greater Boblandia is reconsidering its earlier stated position on the use of humans as game.

I swear, if one more nation with less than ten posts (glass houses, yeah, yeah) comes and posts in tortured grammar about their macho dolphin-killing or how adorable the damn things are, we’re going to use their cabinet to stock the PM’s next hunting expedition.
Fort Townshend
10-06-2005, 01:40
pardon my bluntness, but really now. dolphins suck. if they are your national animal, thats cool, you can save them if you like, but why waste the United Nations time with such a petty request. foolish leaders.
Kruseland
10-06-2005, 01:42
In the first clause of this resolution it says that "dolphins are man-loving". So dolphins no longer like womyn? Why are they only "man-loving"? I demand that this proposal be rewritten to say "people loving" or "humyn loving". I absolutely cannot stand to listen to this kind of sexist language and it is absolutely degrading to all the womyn of the world. Promote freedom and sexual equality by rejecting this resolution until it has been written appropriately.
The City by the Live S
10-06-2005, 01:44
Well the Dolphin festival has one more day before we wrap up all the left over meat and give it away to all those needy nations that are begging for money...They are usually called the green states or tree huggers.

But once again let me invite you all to the last day where we will have a dolphin cook-off (So bring your receipes)

a dolphin rodeo

a dolphin fight (same idea as a bull fight)

And don't forget the hitting over the head of a tied up dolphin repeatedly with a sharp stick contest.

So you are all invited to the spectacular conclusion...And when the reading of the UN proposal is turned to law, whe are going to shove fireworks up the rectums of as many dolphins that we can tie onto our next space launch and shoot off the fireworks

Come join the fun

King
Hassan the Chop
--still wearing my bib

:)
Kruseland
10-06-2005, 01:48
I have two more points about this resolution. First of all, pertaining to my last post, the use of "y" in humyn and womyn is to avoid furthering the sexual dichotamies present in today's society. Second, I always was under the impression the the United Nations was a guardian of HUMYN rights. They are a moderator of the treatment of humyns and safeguard peace. THERE IS NOTHING IN THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION ABOUT DOLPHINS!!! This clearly goes beyond the United Nations' jurisdiction and absolutely must be rejected. In order to prevent the UN from becoming a world government and leading to the collapse of sovereignty we need to reject appeals that go beyond the legislative power of the UN. We cannot allow this association of nations to become the ruler of nations by giving it the power to rule all of a nation's policies. Next people will be submitting a proposal to force all nations to end abortion or the like. THE UN IS NOT ALLOWED TO CONTROL A NATIONS POLICIES OUTSIDE OF HUMYN RIGHTS! If you want to maintain any form of control over the policies of your nation reject this proposal!
Yeru Shalayim
10-06-2005, 02:28
I shall continue to refer to Women and a Woman, because no matter what some believe, Women are indeed Human. Butchering language in an effort to verbally lobotomize can not change this reality. Only genetic engineering can change this, but our geneticists could never accomplish anything if they were the sort of people to believe that just changing spelling could change reality.

Dolphins I believe, also posses two genders which are physiologically different. As their brains seem ill equipped to deal with the context of sentence structures, they are unlikely to suffer this particular language oriented disorder. Dolphins are however very skilled in mathematics and can easily be taught higher algebra and trigonometry. All very reasonable considering their natural use of echolocation.

Now, the vast majority of people who are voting for this resolution, are the usual sorts that vote for things without giving it much thought. Therefore, they are unlikely to even visit this forum.

Of course, whether it passes or not, we, the good people of Yeru Shalayim, shall insure the species survives. We shall continue to grow them in tanks and implant them with sophisticated military electronics and send them to destroy entire fleets of our enemies ships and batter and slash and poison anyone foolish enough, to try and swim over the moats defending our country and we shall watch it all, on channel two and laugh.
Holyboy and the 666s
10-06-2005, 02:56
I have two more points about this resolution. First of all, pertaining to my last post, the use of "y" in humyn and womyn is to avoid furthering the sexual dichotamies present in today's society. Second, I always was under the impression the the United Nations was a guardian of HUMYN rights. They are a moderator of the treatment of humyns and safeguard peace.

For heaven's sake, this is turning ridiculous. The next thing you will want us to do is to change the name mail to humayl! GET OVER THE FREAKIN FEMINISM MENTALITY!! I'm all for this resolution, but when people keep using the woman rule we want equal rights aurguments, it really gets annoying.
New Maru
10-06-2005, 03:12
I, Archon Steiner, Archon of the Holy Empire of New Maru, regional delegate of the Infinite Empire, feel that this proposal should have been included in the whaling act. Since smaller whales are just as likely to enter nets as dolphins, we have already set new fishing laws and created new fishing practices to eliminate this problem. Following a vote of our Troika, it was a unanimous vote that we should lend our votes toward this proposal. The People of Danu seemed particularly devout in this act. The 13 corporations that compose the Holy Empire of New Maru feel that this act does not interfere with our trading and commerce, since we have already addapted following the whaling act when we joined the UN. We see no reason that this act should not be passed.
Yeru Shalayim
10-06-2005, 03:44
It is a simple technicality that this should have been an amendment to the Whaling Act. As an Amendment it would make sense, but as a separate bill, it is simply too convoluted to be feasible.

This is a brave Dolphin leading one of our Gals in to battle.

http://www.dolphin.org.il/gal/gal15.jpg
Midwest Balka
10-06-2005, 03:57
I will be honest, I speak on be-half of all my friends when I state this (probably already stated opinion). This is an absurb UN Resolution that is a direct breech of a nations right to decide its own context of its own laws. Wether this passes or not, I am sure we can count others will appeal it.
Sparren
10-06-2005, 04:08
In the first clause of this resolution it says that "dolphins are man-loving". So dolphins no longer like womyn? Why are they only "man-loving"? I demand that this proposal be rewritten to say "people loving" or "humyn loving". I absolutely cannot stand to listen to this kind of sexist language and it is absolutely degrading to all the womyn of the world. Promote freedom and sexual equality by rejecting this resolution until it has been written appropriately.
This is absolutely ridiculous. Man, in this context, refers to "mankind." Would you prefer this word be changed to "humynkind?" I find your petty arguments to be extraordinarily short-sighted. What about the actual content of this proposal?

I really hope you're not being serious about this.
Wingull
10-06-2005, 04:46
Oh, please. The word "woman" doesn't even come from "man" anyway. I believe the words were once "waeman" and "wifman", referring to male and female humans beings respectively. They were later corrupted into "woman" and "man".

Being a radical feminazi will get you nowhere.
Iraqistanisain
10-06-2005, 05:40
ok think about it
if the dolphins are so smart then why do they get killed by us
leave them in their own mess i say :sniper:
The Freedomless State
10-06-2005, 07:58
I agree there is at no point any signs of the dolphins depleting in numbers. This is a waste of time and A WASTE OF MY ECONOMY. IF THIS PASSES I WILL RESIGN FROM THE UN. ANY ONE WHO AGREES ON MY DRASTIC ACTION SHOULD RESIGN ALSO.
Vastiva
10-06-2005, 08:04
I agree there is at no point any signs of the dolphins depleting in numbers. This is a waste of time and A WASTE OF MY ECONOMY. IF THIS PASSES I WILL RESIGN FROM THE UN. ANY ONE WHO AGREES ON MY DRASTIC ACTION SHOULD RESIGN ALSO.

Dibs on his mood lighting.
Krioval
10-06-2005, 08:20
Dibs on his mood lighting.

That kind of mood lighting makes me seriously consider total darkness. Who'd want to post in CAPS all day?
Vastiva
10-06-2005, 08:30
I was thinking advanced weaponry against the forces of evil we both find mutually ineffective and verbose.... :D
Yeru Shalayim
10-06-2005, 10:47
Firing harpoons aft from the helm of a destroyer at unsuspecting marine mammals is hardly sporting. I propose that Dolphins should be able to defend themselves, but must first be made aware of their status as targets and they must also be armed. Flippers alone are simply a means of short handing them. Therefore, I propose that each and every Dolphin be outfitted with a complete arsenal of Torpedoes, Popeye Missiles, Fifty Caliber Main Guns and Body Armor.

As an alternative proposal, I would suggest all Dolphin Slaying be done with nothing but a Bowie Knife and a talent for swimming.

The truly mighty hunter, must prove himself by his own strength.
The City by the Live S
10-06-2005, 11:27
As an alternative proposal, I would suggest all Dolphin Slaying be done with nothing but a Bowie Knife and a talent for swimming.

The truly mighty hunter, must prove himself by his own strength.

Now that's what I'm talking about,

Yeru Shalayim, please join us tonight at the closing ceremonies of our dolphin festival where we will have the dolphin fight--which will be just to your likings.

After the fight is done and the "matador" consumes his/her prize of the dolphin's genitalia we will all enjoy the fireworks (yes it still involves a rocket, dolphins and rope--)

King
Hassan the Chop
--by my own hand
Rototan
10-06-2005, 13:29
They're my national animal so they're pretty important to me.

why would i hurt my countrys economy (when its already in a pitiful state)
for your animal?
Lucydom
10-06-2005, 13:50
can i just say that speaking as a zoologist...there is no need for this act as dolphins are actually toothed whales and would therefore be covered in the previous ban whaling act..


who proposed this stupid act anyway...you may want to do a bit of research before you start making statements like that
Zark the destroyer
10-06-2005, 14:44
Just don't kill any Dolphins, they're kewl, and appear a lot smarter than some who are debating this resolution, I say give the dolphins the right to vote on their own future, or lack of, whicher way the vote goes. :)
Corpulenscia
10-06-2005, 14:47
His Huskiness Greedovsky of the Overflowing Commonwealth of Corpulenscia will note that dolphin meat is quite delicious, and the blubber can be rendered into a wonderful fryer oil.

Also, dolphins devour many times their weight in fish every day, leading to a staggering loss to the Commonwealth's fishing industry and overall less fish for It's portly populace.
Hirota
10-06-2005, 15:09
Just don't kill any Dolphins, they're kewl, and appear a lot smarter than some who are debating this resolution, I say give the dolphins the right to vote on their own future, or lack of, whicher way the vote goes. :)Indeed, I've noticed that as well.
Sparren
10-06-2005, 15:29
can i just say that speaking as a zoologist...there is no need for this act as dolphins are actually toothed whales and would therefore be covered in the previous ban whaling act..


who proposed this stupid act anyway...you may want to do a bit of research before you start making statements like that

This is the kind of thing we need to be looking it while considering how to vote... the facts. Who wants a repetition of the whaling act? It just takes up more space, and gets more specific.
Hirota
10-06-2005, 16:24
can i just say that speaking as a zoologist...there is no need for this act as dolphins are actually toothed whales and would therefore be covered in the previous ban whaling act..


who proposed this stupid act anyway...you may want to do a bit of research before you start making statements like that It's a shame you were not around for the draft of this proposal....Or indeed for the draft of the whaling proposal as your experience would have been valued.
CharlieMurphy
10-06-2005, 16:37
How the fuck cares about some stupid dolphins? It is just going to raise taxes, and my country's taxes are too high already.
Oirectine
10-06-2005, 17:08
How could you even think about voting against this proposal?? Dolphins are extremely intelligent animals. They have been known to sense fear in humans and have saved people's lives. Much can be learned from them. Also, have you ever swam with a dolphin or touched a wild dolphin? Well, I have, and they're great creatures. Save the dolphins!
Quentoni
10-06-2005, 17:26
Although Dolphins are respected for their vital role in the eco-system, it is imperative for a free-society to look after the needs of the people first and foremost. Free people's should reap the benefits of a free-market system, which should not be penalized for the killing of dolphins, either intentional or unintentional.

If at some future point in time the health and welfare of humankind is on the brink due to a imminent extinction of Dolphins, the Commonwealth will reconsider its position.

This is the wrong legislation at the wrong time.
RNCP
10-06-2005, 17:32
this overly sentimentalist "save the whales" crap isn't something the international governning body should waste it's time on when humans are being killed
Velleos
10-06-2005, 17:43
I believe that killing them for sport should be a crime, but if someone wants to do a little whaling or dolphin-killing, and they plan on using all of the body to minimize wasting, then they should be able to do so, though commercial applications should be VERY strictly limited.
[NS]Kiloran
10-06-2005, 18:04
How could you even think about voting against this proposal?? Dolphins are extremely intelligent animals. They have been known to sense fear in humans and have saved people's lives. Much can be learned from them. Also, have you ever swam with a dolphin or touched a wild dolphin? Well, I have, and they're great creatures. Save the dolphins!

I can vote against it because it supports a preference for Dolphins over Humans. If you know Dolphins so well, then you also know they are just as worthy of consideration as we are. What we really need is a resolution in support of the recognition of the sovreign rights of Dolphins and their autonomy within their own seas.

As I have stated before, Kiloran recognizes not only the sanctity of all intelligent life in the universe, Human or otherwise, but also the great contributions Dolphins have made to the defense of Kiloran.
Wegason
10-06-2005, 18:10
It affects all businesses! WHY!!!??? I mean come on, how does banning dolphin hunting or whatever affect furniture restoration or woodchipping?

This resolution should be deleted or amended for being incorrectly categorised
[NS]Kiloran
10-06-2005, 18:20
I have two more points about this resolution. First of all, pertaining to my last post, the use of "y" in humyn and womyn is to avoid furthering the sexual dichotamies present in today's society. Second, I always was under the impression the the United Nations was a guardian of HUMYN rights. They are a moderator of the treatment of humyns and safeguard peace. THERE IS NOTHING IN THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION ABOUT DOLPHINS!!! This clearly goes beyond the United Nations' jurisdiction and absolutely must be rejected. In order to prevent the UN from becoming a world government and leading to the collapse of sovereignty we need to reject appeals that go beyond the legislative power of the UN. We cannot allow this association of nations to become the ruler of nations by giving it the power to rule all of a nation's policies. Next people will be submitting a proposal to force all nations to end abortion or the like. THE UN IS NOT ALLOWED TO CONTROL A NATIONS POLICIES OUTSIDE OF HUMYN RIGHTS! If you want to maintain any form of control over the policies of your nation reject this proposal!

Be careful about all that "Human rights are only for Humans" rubbish. The most powerful and warlike nation in my region is populated by Minotaurs, and if they happen to read your statment they will probably declare war. They did it to Kiloran. I'm already having trouble with the Dwarves of Kiloran who happened to read your statement.

(Yes, many of my constituents train their pet Dwarves to fetch the paper.)
Flibbleites
10-06-2005, 19:30
It affects all businesses! WHY!!!??? I mean come on, how does banning dolphin hunting or whatever affect furniture restoration or woodchipping?And here's the reason I'm opposed to this proposal/

This resolution should be deleted or amended for being incorrectly categorisedFirst off, amendments are against the rules, the resolution would have to be repealed then replaced. And as fopr deleting it, I believe that once the resolution reaches the floor the mods can't delete it, I know that they can hit them in queue but I think that once it's up for vote their hands are tied.
Yeru Shalayim
10-06-2005, 19:31
It affects all businesses! WHY!!!??? I mean come on, how does banning dolphin hunting or whatever affect furniture restoration or woodchipping?

This resolution should be deleted or amended for being incorrectly categorised


Dolphin Bones would surely make for some truly interesting furniture, which could very much effect furniture restoration and the wood chipping industry. of course, this resolution has now passed, so none of us can use dolphin bones to make our armrests any longer, just as they made narwhal tusks illegal to harvest with the first legislation.

No more dolphin skin furniture or sacking out on a stuffed killer whale. No more sleeping in a genuine grey whale blubber bag while camping. I suppose you can still have human verses dolphin wrestling matches so long as it is relatively non-lethal.

I would assert, that Yeru Shalayim’s Plans to train dolphins for military operations and implant them with sophisticated military electronics is entirely legal, as it is in their best interests to serve us and it makes them quite happy when we give them fish in exchange for blowing up enemy submarines and poisoning enemy scuba divers.
Spadedtarzania
10-06-2005, 19:56
I agree there is at no point any signs of the dolphins depleting in numbers. This is a waste of time and A WASTE OF MY ECONOMY. IF THIS PASSES I WILL RESIGN FROM THE UN. ANY ONE WHO AGREES ON MY DRASTIC ACTION SHOULD RESIGN ALSO.


if you quite, you cannot stop even more embaresing acts from coming through the UN.
Elvallen
10-06-2005, 20:44
One of my major industries is Trout Farming - Dolphins eat my steelhead and it severely damages the population and habitat. Before making a blanket exception for an animal - there needs to be certain exceptions. I guess we will have to resort to herding them into areas full of sharks and dump blood bait into the water and let "nature" control them for us....
Holyboy and the 666s
10-06-2005, 20:51
Well, the resolution was passed. 11,333 votes to 5,726. An expected victory for the FOR group and a pitiful defeat for the AGAINST. O well, on to repealling :D
Seusstopia
10-06-2005, 21:00
Though it is too late to change the outcome of this proposal (which I strongly voted against), I'd like to point out that, if and when humans (and various other "very intelligent" lifeforms) are on the brink of extinction, I seriously doubt that dolphins will lift a flipper to help them. Instead, dolphins will begin an "Oceans Uber Alles" program that will slowly but surely break down all remaining dry land and turn the world into one vast body of water. At that time, only Kevin Costner, Dennis Hopper and a few others will be left alive ... is that something we really want our future generations to have to suffer through?

I say NO. Thanks a lot, dolphin activists. You've sealed our doom. I hope you're happy. Enjoy.
Zlept
10-06-2005, 21:01
I voted yes before I read this forum, and I see that you have a point. I now relize that I should have voted against. This is to everyone hoping to make a proposal:Make it benifit all of us!!!!!
Kiloran
10-06-2005, 21:27
Even under this resolution, Kiloran will still use Dolphins in its navy. They risk injury and death under their own free will to defend our shores from the Minotaurs of Talruum.

As for changes in our fishing policies, this will change nothing. Tuna fishing is already illegal in Kiloran's waters, as Tuna are recognized as the property of the Dolphins. There are plenty of other fish in the sea, and salmon have always been more popular here anyway.
Fascistic communism
10-06-2005, 22:03
this state will have to consider its membership of the un after the obscene lefty green nonsense about dolphins.this state has the benevolent love of its supreme leader to protect it from the un lunacies
Calsnonof
10-06-2005, 22:06
Deal with your own problems. You want to protect your animal? Make a barrier around your country with your animal in it. Dont spend my money, spend yours.
Fatus Maximus
10-06-2005, 22:06
...your point?
Yodatopia
10-06-2005, 22:08
Dolphins are extremely intelligent, man-loving and friendly mammals. They deserve to be treated with care and compassion. After all, we are animals too.
Yodatopia
10-06-2005, 22:19
Dolphins should not be hunted for when they get extinct then animals that feed on dolphins will soon get extinct. This will all soon lead to world hunger.

:mad: :sniper:
Dolphin Hater Dolphin Lover
Asheph
10-06-2005, 23:25
If you don't like it, don't vote or attempt to shoot it down.
[NS]Yodatopia
10-06-2005, 23:54
:mp5: There are not many dolphins so if they keep getting killed in nets soon they will be extinct which will damage the food chain.
[NS]Yodatopia
11-06-2005, 00:08
Let the dolphins stay here. They have no right to be killed. They were here before us. :fluffle: :mp5:
Holyboy and the 666s
11-06-2005, 01:00
Yay, we protected the dolphins :rolleyes: useless waste of money. Still absolutly no evidence that the dolphins are going extinct, and we are spending money to save the dolphins, which will damage the nation's economies, which means there are less jobs, more unemployment, and less people to spend their money fueling our economy. :headbang: If you would like a greater insight of this philosiphy(sp?) please read the forum, cause i don't feel like repeating what has been said and waste more time typing then this resolution deserves.
Sidestreamer
11-06-2005, 09:57
OOC: I can't act in character. This is fucking stupid. You all effectively placed false regulations against every industry (insurance, auto-making, furniture, pizza delivery, etc.) to save the dolphin, which isn't even Flipper, but a relative of the tuna.

Do we have nothing but proto-hippie 12-year-olds playing this game?

Idjits!
DemonLordEnigma
11-06-2005, 10:05
Guys, keep kicking this horse all you like. It isn't going to magically return to life and regrow from being a skeleton no matter how long you spend.

Now, would all of you mind getting out of the way so we can give the bones a proper burial?
Mikitivity
11-06-2005, 21:39
OOC: I can't act in character. This is fucking stupid. You all effectively placed false regulations against every industry (insurance, auto-making, furniture, pizza delivery, etc.) to save the dolphin, which isn't even Flipper, but a relative of the tuna.

Do we have nothing but proto-hippie 12-year-olds playing this game?

Idjits!

Option two: thousands of players rather not stat wank and instead "roleplay". *gasp*

As for the Environmental categories, they are pretty lame, in that with a bit of work, they could be broadened to target specific (and related) industries.
Yeru Shalayim
12-06-2005, 05:28
So long as the majority of humans are jingo singing fools, bills like this will continue to be passed. Oh well. I suppose we shall have to reemploy our dolphin hunters as jingoists. What, we do not have any dolphin hunters? Damnable Politicians, over regulating industry for nothing.
Lucydom
12-06-2005, 13:49
This is the kind of thing we need to be looking it while considering how to vote... the facts. Who wants a repetition of the whaling act? It just takes up more space, and gets more specific.


yes i agree completely..

whats more worrying is the amount of sharks killed just for their fins...its a much more staggering problem. many sharks are caught, have their fins chopped off and are thrown back into the sea...how is this in any way humane? thats the sort of resolution we need, not one on banning dolphin hunting which is already covered under another resolution!
Dicomte
12-06-2005, 14:16
It seems obvious that the only possible way all sides can be content is if we make a proposal protecting all animals.

Never going to happen though.
Saint Uriel
12-06-2005, 22:02
The dolphin-farming coastal community of Wasan, south-western Chryse Island, wishes to twin with an appropriate town or community in the fair nation of Saint Uriel for the purposes of promoting and sharing peace, understanding, friendship and recipe books.

Janet Blyleven
Deputy Speaker for International Relations
Apologies for not responding to this earlier. We have a port city, Aequitan, located on the eastern shore of our largest island that would be perfect for a twin exchange. We would be happy to share peace, friendship, aid, and cooking secrets with our brothers and sisters in Ecopoeia.

- Augustus Cassopa, Prefect of Foreign Affairs, Saint Uriel
Fergi the Great
13-06-2005, 18:29
I have to shake my head sometimes at the human race: we will expend billions of dollars and manhours protecting other species to preserve the ecological balance of the planet, yet we are indecisive when it comes to preserving our own race.

We sometimes, at our own expense, legislate in such a way that is advantageous to species that compete with us yet consider ourselves in our hubris the most intelligent creation we know of. How do we continue to exist when we keep helping the weak among us and fostering the existence of other species with whom we compete for resources? Aren't we hastening our own demise?
Kiloran
13-06-2005, 18:54
Dolphins don't compete with Humans in Kiloran. The only resource we both want is Tuna, and Tuna trolling is illegal in our waters.

It's also not the weak this resolution defends. Dolphins are some of the best fighters in the sea and just as cunning as any human warrior. They are one of the best assets Kiloran's navy has.
Saint Uriel
13-06-2005, 19:12
Dolphins are some of the best fighters in the sea and just as cunning as any human warrior. They are one of the best assets Kiloran's navy has.
Umm... really? I guess you're only warring with nations that have mackeral in their navies. We have some small destroyers and patrol boats we'd be willing to sell you. Low mileage, good condition. They'll blow those mackeral right out of the water.
DemonLordEnigma
13-06-2005, 21:54
It's also not the weak this resolution defends. Dolphins are some of the best fighters in the sea and just as cunning as any human warrior. They are one of the best assets Kiloran's navy has.

Dolphins are pitiful. No natural armor, weapons are weak, and they're slow. All we need to do is target their body heat signature or heart beat and they're dead.
Mangota
17-06-2005, 17:51
Of course Dolphins should be protected. They are like little children who can't speak for themselves. Being human we should do all we can to protect them.
Flibbleites
17-06-2005, 19:32
Why are we still discussing this?
Allemande
17-06-2005, 20:18
Even under this resolution, Kiloran will still use Dolphins in its navy. They risk injury and death under their own free will to defend our shores from the Minotaurs of Talruum.

As for changes in our fishing policies, this will change nothing. Tuna fishing is already illegal in Kiloran's waters, as Tuna are recognized as the property of the Dolphins. There are plenty of other fish in the sea, and salmon have always been more popular here anyway.You know, Allemande may add dolphins to its Navy, since U.N. Members are no longer permitted to attack them. Of course, we can't stop our dolphins from fighting your dolphins... ;)
Allemande
17-06-2005, 20:22
Dolphins are pitiful. No natural armor, weapons are weak, and they're slow. All we need to do is target their body heat signature or heart beat and they're dead.They have the best armor in the world now! U.N. Members can't target them. :D

We will be adding dolphins to our undersea forces immediately.
DemonLordEnigma
17-06-2005, 22:50
They have the best armor in the world now! U.N. Members can't target them. :D

We will be adding dolphins to our undersea forces immediately.

Gee, that's weird, they look like whales to me. And, look, we just reclassified them. Since we're shooting whales, not dolphins, we're perfectly alright. Oh, and note it only protects them in international water, which means I can still fire torpedoes at them while they are in your waters.
Holyboy and the 666s
18-06-2005, 00:26
Why are we still discussing this?

Because we're a bunch of political nerds with nothing better to do on a Friday :D

Just Joking!
Allemande
18-06-2005, 15:31
Gee, that's weird, they look like whales to me. And, look, we just reclassified them. Since we're shooting whales, not dolphins, we're perfectly alright. Oh, and note it only protects them in international water, which means I can still fire torpedoes at them while they are in your waters.No, no, no. That's the wrong response. I think all of us who opposed this should simply cite the military use of dolphins as an example of the Law of Unintended Consequences at work.

Then we can have the "fluffy bunny" crowd author a "No Karate Kids Riding Dolphins Into War" resolution! ROTFLMAO!

(Alternately, like the mercs of old [16th and 17th Centuries], you could try to bribe them over to your side. I can see it now: mackerel as the strategic resource of the 21st Century!].)
DemonLordEnigma
18-06-2005, 20:04
I would do that, but most people would think it to be a silly proposal.
The Eternal Kawaii
18-06-2005, 20:37
Then we can have the "fluffy bunny" crowd author a "No Karate Kids Riding Dolphins Into War" resolution! ROTFLMAO!

Actually, Our government would not necessarily vote against a proposed Flying Dolphin Squad for our Shirt Ninja Corps. Of course, special religious training would be needed for soldiers working so closely with manifestations of the Eternal Kawaii, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.