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Protection of Dolphins Act
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Real Paradise

Description: The United Nations,

RECONGNIZING that dolphins are extremely intelligent, man-loving and friendly mammals, that symbolize to millions around the world the spirit of freedom, happiness and togetherness,

ALARMED by the killing of dolphins around the world, whether intentional of accidental,

OBSERVING that the prevention of dolphin killings will not in any way hurt any of the states' economies,

RECALLING UN resolution #70 (Banning Whaling), and acknowledging that it accidentally omitted dolphins,

1. Condemns in the strongest terms the intentional killing of dolphins around the world.

2. Declares that the hunting or intentional killing of dolphins in extra-territorial waters is a crime according to the International Law, unless when done in circumstances where it is absolutely necessary for the saving of human lives or the prevention of an ecological disaster.

3. Urges all states to legislate a provision similar to that of article #2 above.

4. Calls upon all its members to find ways to minimize the accidental killing of dolphins in the fishing business.

5. Calls upon all states to prevent dolphin abuse, in any way that they see fit, provided that no dolphin shall ever be preferred over human lives.
Since noone had started a thread for the AT VOTE proposal, I thought I would.

Ok, this guy really likes dolphins - they're his national animal and he has two on his flag.

That's nice, but we don't support this - for very selfish reasons. Saint Uriel is an archipelago in nice warm waters. We have a huge fishing industry and sell a lot of fish, both fresh and tinned. Accidental dolphin flesh seems to give our tinned fish that extra zest that the consumers love. Sorry the little dears have to die, but it helps our economy.

*stat wanking*We think that it is insidious to imply that an environmental "All businesses affected" resolution would not have a negative impact on our economy.

And this really doesn't affect all businesses, but you'll be sure that your stats will be affected severely!*/stat wanking*

Also, we don't think it should be up to the nations of the UN to protect this nation's national animal, as we do not think that others should do with ours.

IC:
Dolphins?
What's the point of saving dolphins? They don't do anything useful

IC:
Dolphins?
What's the point of saving dolphins? They don't do anything useful
Greetings.

Our objection in principle is that it has to be an international problem, and dolphins are not internationally distributed, let alone interplanetarily or interdimensionally. We might as well post resolutions of this kind for all sufficiently alluring intelligent life forms with a scarcity factor.

We also note that killer whales are dolphins too.

OoC: I thought it was the other way around; and dolphins were whales. The again, I might be wrong. I frequently am!

Hmm... he hasn't defined dolphins.

IC: The Gubernatorial Taxonomy Bureau hereby classify all dolphins as hedgehogs.

IC:
Dolphins?
What's the point of saving dolphins? They don't do anything useful

They're my national animal so they're pretty important to me.

This is all fine and dandy BUT as the proposal states:

"RECALLING UN resolution #70 (Banning Whaling), and acknowledging that it accidentally omitted dolphins"

Does that not imply that we should be amending the old resolution, or perhaps repealing the old resolution and creating a newer more accurate one? :rolleyes:

Thereby this proposal has been rejected by the people of Karidnosen.

They're my national animal so they're pretty important to me.

Wait, so we should spend OUR money on YOUR animal?

Can you buy our Prime Minister a new Palace?

No where in this resolutiono on any resolution that has been passed by the United Nations does it say that these dolphins are, were, or are going to be endangered? Wouldn't this be a great reason to protect the dolphins, if that were the case? The fact that NO ONE in the United Nations has given proof of them depleating in numbers causes my country to strongly consider voting against this resolution. It seems the only reason we are saving these dolphins is because they're cute. Lets put more important resolutions on the floor to be debated instead of this waste of time! Unless ANY nation can give me a really strong reason to save these dolphins, my country will vote against this resolution!

Thank you. i will shut up now.

In a technical sense, dolphins are endangered in Ashatar by virtue of the fact that only 12 are to be found in the entire Empire. These 12 are held in a very large water tank in the imperial capital for the entertainment of the general population, and were genetically engineered to enjoy their life. Aside from this, there is only one species of Delphinidae, or indeed any cetecean species, in our waters: the Sea Bull (delphinidae truncatus navivorum), which is a rather similar shape to a classical dolphin, though much larger. It has been known to eat smaller fishing trawlers and constantly menaces our southern coastline, which is why our fishing fleets are universally accompanied by a submarine escort and at least one destroyer.

In view of the fact that any legislation will invariably be expanded far beyond its original written intent, and that this bill potentially provides a serious loophole in the language of its second statement:


ALARMED by the killing of dolphins around the world, whether intentional of accidental

... which would allow for the prosecution of our navy and fishing fleet owners for simply defending their livlihoods, and the following statement:


OBSERVING that the prevention of dolphin killings will not in any way hurt any of the states' economies


Which is simply false...

This bill creates a serious threat to our fishing fleet, and indeed our national security, tourist industry and overseas pizza delivery services, and we are therefore obliged to vote against it.

Dovakhan doesn't have any dolphins.
We have lots of porpoises, though...
(Goes to open a tin of porpoise meat)
Yummm...

OOC: I thought this proposal sounded fishy . (Yes, Dolphins are mammals, blah, blah. Trying to make a joke here.)

IC: Western Saxonia cannot vote in favor of this simply because we have no idea what a "dolphin" is. Based on the statements of the other member nations, we can only assume it is some sort of aquatic mammal that has tender and tasty flesh. Perhaps if the members could find a cookbook of "dolphin" recipes and point out why eating them is bad, we might vote in favor of the proposal.

I like dolphins. Am I the only one here who supports this proposal? :(

Karidnosen']"RECALLING UN resolution #70 (Banning Whaling), and acknowledging that it accidentally omitted dolphins"

Does that not imply that we should be amending the old resolution, or perhaps repealing the old resolution and creating a newer more accurate one?

Nah, it's just a back-reference.

Still can't believe this hit quorum, though. Guess it's just been too long since the UN nuked member economies...

The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites doesn't like this proposal (primarily due to it's being an environmental proposal) because we no longer have any dolphins in our nation, the last one left three months ago after telling us, "So long and thanks for all the fish."

Dolphins being the second most intelligent species in the NS world (mice are the first), we have voted for this proposal.

I like dolphins. I really do. And Gwenstefanians don't eat dolphin, and do use dolphin-friendly fishing methods. But this proposal seems just too... fluffy for my liking.

RECONGNIZING that dolphins are extremely intelligent, man-loving and friendly mammals, that symbolize to millions around the world the spirit of freedom, happiness and togetherness,"

Perhaps if they could have shown dolphins to be endangered I'd be more concerned. I suppose their intelligence could be a factor, but really, I couldn't care less what dolphins symbolise, that's not a reason to stop hunting something. Apparently deer symbolise "graceful gentleness, sensitivity, compassion, kindness". I still like venison pie. Mmm, bambi.

Industry Affected: All Businesses... OBSERVING that the prevention of dolphin killings will not in any way hurt any of the states' economies,

But it will. It will affect all of my industries, from information technology to beef based agriculture. Apparently.

It is culturally insensitive too. Some nations may eat dolphin, and if the species is not endangered, what right have we to tell them to stop?

Still can't believe this hit quorum, though. * sigh*

I take three days off, and what awaits my return? Just because we don't have a current resolution-at-vote doesn't mean you guys have to approve just ANYTHING. Geeze-o-Pete.

At least this resolution, unlike many of the recent ones to pass, does something. Krioval isn't exactly anybody's idea of environmental paradise - in fact, we don't even have an arm of the government dedicated to preservation. At the same time, it might be interesting to have an environmental resolution on the table, and protecting dolphins isn't exactly the worst test case I could think of.

Honestly, if it's the opinions of so many people that there's nothing left for the UN to do, maybe it's time we petition for its closure.

:)

After reading this proposal,

The City by the Live Sea is now celebrating its first of many anual Dolphin festivals.

There will be eating contests, cooking contests. Dolphin fights. Dolphin clothing and of course the contest of what usages you can have with Dolphins

Thanks for the idea

King
Hassan the Chop
--by my own hand

PS By the way, We vote against this proposal :fluffle:

Ecopoeia sees no ethical reason for elevating dolphins over any other animal. A small number of Ecopoeia's coastal communities hunt and consume dolphins. This hunting is subject to various stringent criteria as imposed by the Ecopoeian Environmental Court.

This resolution does not mandate that we end this practice, so will grudging put up with UN finger-wagging and make no changes to the legislation currently in place should this pass.

We abstain, though may change our vote to a 'nay'.

Varia Yefremova
Speaker to the UN

So we should spend OUR money on YOUR animal?

The proposal doesn't seem to involve spending much money, merely finding ways to prevent abuse/unnecessary killing (anybody want to set up an international dolphin preservation comittee so nations don't have to find the method themelves?). It also only enforces the law in international waters, only urging you to adopt similar measures in your own territories. We therefore see no reason for voting against the measure, as we can still hunt/maim/abuse dolphins within our own waters should we feel an uncontrolable urge to do so.

The Armed Republic of Funkoslavia urges all nations to vote against this resolution, as dolphins are tasty, and their intelligence makes them all the more dangerous.

Way to broad and the wording is bad!! like this"ALARMED by the killing of dolphins around the world, whether intentional of accidental, " That is absurd!! That means that if a dolfphine is "hurt" or killed be a merchent ship or a pleashure ship sailing on the high sea. The ship would be held responcebly. NO, NO this is a BS. Kill this before it's kills the shipments of good on the sea. That means that no ship would have alowed to sail on the waters...
This is just a way by the greenies to destroy the free trade between nations.
Plus it is a play on peoples freelings!!
Vote AGAINT this kind of BS!!

This resolution does not go far enough. I have objections to the following phrases:

"...unless when done in circumstances where it is absolutely necessary for the saving of human lives or the prevention of an ecological disaster. "

"...provided that no dolphin shall ever be preferred over human lives. "

These both make the assumption that dolphins are inferior to human beings. They are, in fact, our counterparts in the oceans. They are entitled to the same rights as human beings. Add to this the fact that no dolphin has ever been known to commit a crime, plus the fact that they are believed to be the chosen messengers of Njord and Poseidon, and a strong case can be made that to harm a dolphin is never acceptable.

Let me just start by saying how alarmed I am at the lack of seriousness regarding something as important as a UN proposal.

Regarding the proposal, to repeat an already voiced complaint, it would have been preferable if it had more clearly described the endangerment of the dolphin population, or the animal abuse caused by lax fishing regulations regarding dolphins. Although you are concerned about protecting dolphins, you HAVE to sell your case to the UN as a whole.

Secondly, I fail to see how it would affect areas like information technology, basket weaving, and woodchipping. It should have been labeled as affecting trout fishing only.

Although the Most Serene Republic of The Shadow-Kai takes environmental conservation as a top priority, this resolution has two very serious problems with it. I shall vote against it, but I am hoping that a corrected version shall be resubmitted in the near future. With the appropriate changes, I will support this proposal.

Executor Ffeorg of the High Council of The Most Serene Republic of The Shadow-Kai

They're my national animal so they're pretty important to me.

Wow, we eat our national animal. Keeps the population down, and what better way to celebrate holidays patriotically than by chowing down on your national animal?

The Dolphin Spleen is Apathakastan's monetary unit. News of this proposal in my native country has caused many people to begin 'hoarding' their spleens and has sent our economy spiraling out of control. Its nice to know people think first about dolphins and second about the poor Apathakastani children crushed underfoot during the riots which have begun to break out in our capital.

Goes to show you, the road to hell is truely paved with good intentions.

Awww, those poor little dolphins are dying off? Evil fisherman meanie heads are killin' them off, you say? Oh, that's so horrible... oh, wait. You know what? I just remembered. I couldn't give less of a **** about dolphins.

I am prodolphin, even though my county was envisioned as a smal, one coast-county, it was made into an Island on the game...... anywho, although it is cold, Orcas, relitives of dolphins, are in the waters surrounding this country of mine, and I am willing to protect these orcas.

Allemande is a maritime nation that relies heavily on fishing (although it is not our primary industry). We already mandate dolphin-safe fishing technologies and techniques. That said, we oppose this resolution.

The author should let this die and resubmit it in a form that limits its scope to Beef-Based Agriculture (in NationStates, apparently all fish, fowl, mammals, and even bugs are "beef"; go figure). We see no reason why our Arms Manufacturing, Automobile Manufacturing, Uranium Mining, Information Technology, Door-to-Door Insurance Sales, and Retail Sales industries should be adversely affected by this proposal.

(BTW, the author is being disingenuous by suggesting that this will have no impact on anyone's economy. Dolphin-safe fishing is more expensive that just letting your nets haul in whatever is out there, and if even one industry is affected, that's an economic impact. He should be honest and say that the global impact will be modest, and perhaps offer economic aid and incentives to nations that are harmed.)

The Holy Empire of Flangegrobble is outraged by this fluffy-greeny proposal - it will significantly affect the world famous dolphin farms of lower Flangegrobble and destroy the value of the flange in world currency.

Dolphin meat is a staple food in Flangegrobble.

What next? Are you going to ban the death of cows? Pigs? Chickens? Carrots?

Flangegrobble sincerely plead that all nations vote against this proposal and not deny the world of succulent, healthy and tasty dolphin meat. Look into your souls, do you really want our vital food sources removed from us?

Dolphins are lovely, peaceful animals and don't deserve to get killed. Its cruel to kill them. Imagine you were in your natural habitat and then someone takes you away from it, kills you and you end up in a tin can selling in tesco. not nice, is it? Everyone loves dolphins! Are you saying you want to kill them just for money?! That's what it seems like to me! what did dolphins ever do to you! :mad: :sniper:

The Holy Empire of Flangegrobble is outraged by this fluffy-greeny proposal - it will significantly affect the world famous dolphin farms of lower Flangegrobble and destroy the value of the flange in world currency.

Dolphin meat is a staple food in Flangegrobble.

What next? Are you going to ban the death of cows? Pigs? Chickens? Carrots?

Flangegrobble sincerely plead that all nations vote against this proposal and not deny the world of succulent, healthy and tasty dolphin meat. Look into your souls, do you really want our vital food sources removed from us?
that's evil. EVIL!

Allemande is a maritime nation that relies heavily on fishing (although it is not our primary industry). We already mandate dolphin-safe fishing technologies and techniques. That said, we oppose this resolution.

The author should let this die and resubmit it in a form that limits its scope to Beef-Based Agriculture (in NationStates, apparently all fish, fowl, mammals, and even bugs are "beef"; go figure). We see no reason why our Arms Manufacturing, Automobile Manufacturing, Uranium Mining, Information Technology, Door-to-Door Insurance Sales, and Retail Sales industries should be adversely affected by this proposal.

(BTW, the author is being disingenuous by suggesting that this will have no impact on anyone's economy. Dolphin-safe fishing is more expensive that just letting your nets haul in whatever is out there, and if even one industry is affected, that's an economic impact. He should be honest and say that the global impact will be modest, and perhaps offer economic aid and incentives to nations that are harmed.)
Who cares about the economy? It's the economy that's harming the world, in population mankind is evil. The least we can do to make up for the economy we need to survive is help them out.

Kiloran']This resolution does not go far enough. I have objections to the following phrases:

"...unless when done in circumstances where it is absolutely necessary for the saving of human lives or the prevention of an ecological disaster. "

"...provided that no dolphin shall ever be preferred over human lives. "

These both make the assumption that dolphins are inferior to human beings. They are, in fact, our counterparts in the oceans. They are entitled to the same rights as human beings. Add to this the fact that no dolphin has ever been known to commit a crime, plus the fact that they are believed to be the chosen messengers of Njord and Poseidon, and a strong case can be made that to harm a dolphin is never acceptable.

Now you've convinced me: I am definetely voting against this resolution. ;)

Everyone loves dolphins! Are you saying you want to kill them just for money?!

Thats exactly what we are saying. Apathakastan switched from paper/metal money to Dolphin Spleens as our currency when we realized that people would be alot less likely to run a pocketful of spleens through the washer.

"Emperor Edward XVI has declared that the Empire of Egotistical Evilness, having only recently joined the United Nations, will vote 'Yes' for the Protection of Dolphins Act.

This is not because we like dolphins. In fact, we detest them, as we detest every other living, or non-living, thing. But we see it more evil if we put them in a false sense of security - the rubbery mammals will see this passed and will think, 'Hooray, no more hunters!'. Mwahahaha, fools! We are already concocting our evil, nasty plans...."

-Edgar Glinton, Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, Empire of Egotistical Evilness

Who cares about the economy? It's the economy that's harming the world, in population mankind is evil. The least we can do to make up for the economy we need to survive is help them out.

Without an economy, who would pay heavy sums of money to your polititians, or pay you average income tax rate of 38%?

The economy should be the first priority, or no one will be able to pay for my country's welfare program!

I had originally thought that the Act would be ineffective due to the difficulty it would be to enforce nations to follow it. However, I have rethought it through, and it seems the perfect chance for a new nation to create an industry that would have a high buget (each nation would need to finance it), with almost world wide jurisdiction. The only negative effect would be the newly founded black market this act would help thrive. And then there would be the opportunity for even more police action. Hey, I'm starting to like this. I'd better hurry and change my vote. :sniper:

The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites doesn't like this proposal (primarily due to it's being an environmental proposal) because we no longer have any dolphins in our nation, the last one left three months ago after telling us, "So long and thanks for all the fish."

Ok, what do you suggest? That we define dolfins as mice? Then there would be no more life to enjoy. :confused:

The Fibbleites were correct earlier in this thread, that the dolphins did indeed leave the Earth, the last one saying "So long, and thanks for all the fish", to avoid its destruction to make way for the Hyperspace Bypass through the unfashionable western-spiral arm of the galaxy. Of course, however, the Earth has been rebuilt by the Magratheans to a very high standard (Compliments to Slartibartfast for the wonderful work done on the fjords) and the dolphins have since returned.

Of course, the several warnings of the imminent destruction of the Earth by the dolphins were largely dismissed by most UN member states. We had a back-up planet this time round- who's to say we will next time? The Allied States of Hyperspace Bypass (of which was founded by dolphins and scientists long thought of as "loonies" who found some discarded Babel fish in order to understand them) declares that the UN must support this resolution in order to stop the destruction of a species whose knowledge is obviously crucial to the entire planet.

:headbang:
I always thought that people are good in nature, and couldn't figure why this world looked like hell.

Those evil doers that don't vote for this resolution have made it clear to me.

I hope to be a folphin next time around...
:fluffle:

My position stands opposing this resolution for the following reasons:

Examining: "RECONGNIZING that dolphins are extremely intelligent, man-loving and friendly mammals, that symbolize to millions around the world the spirit of freedom, happiness and togetherness"
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- Dolphins are not the only "intelligent, man-loving and friendly mammals", therefore creating penalty for the intentional killing of Dolphins, in all fairness means we should treat any other animal equivalently.
One a note: We can not, or should not, discriminate the intelligence of Dolphins, comparable to any other animal, under the possibilities that Dolphin intelligence is just more closely related to our own. And we therefore, take easier notice towards their species' "Intelligence".

"ALARMED by the killing of dolphins around the world, whether intentional of accidental"
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- The passing of this resolution would severely damage our fishing industries given that techniques in tuna fishing, 99.9% of the time amount to many Dolphins are cought as well as the Tuna. Most all of which die. Alternative means of acquiring large amounts of tuna are almost nil, if forced to avoid the dolphin casualties.
Noting: The resolution states "intentional killing of dolphins," and the argument may stand whether tuna fisheries are accepting the deaths of the Dolphins intentionaly, but the way I see it, chances are it would be considered intentional. So, if alternative means are initiated, dolphins will still be a variable in the equation, just in a different place. "How can we consider their deaths non-intentional"


~Merlin

Grilled Mustard-Crusted Dolphin

8 oz. Dolphin Fillets
Salt And Pepper -- to taste
2 Tbsp Butter -- melted
4 Tbsp Dijon Mustard
1/2 C Bread Crumbs
1 Oz Chopped Fresh Herbs
2 Tbsp Mustard Seeds

Season dolphin with salt and pepper; rub with a little melted butter; reserve remaining butter.

Over very hot grill (500°) cook dolphin only until grill marks appear. Remove from grill at once.

Rub Dijon mustard on filet; top with mixture of remaining butter, bread crumbs, fresh herbs and mustard seeds. Bake in oven at 350° until dolphin is brown on top and moist in center.

Makes 2 servings.

:headbang:
I always thought that people are good in nature, and couldn't figure why this world looked like hell.

Those evil doers that don't vote for this resolution have made it clear to me.

I hope to be a folphin next time around...
:fluffle:

Y'know, replies like this, coupled with the current vote tally (something on the order of 2 to 1 in favor) really concerns me. I would love to know exactly how many people READ the proposal and CONSIDERED what it would do to their nations before voting. Honestly, since it's marked "All Businesses," this affects everything from Uranium Mining (W. Saxonia's primary industry) to Logging. Exactly how am I going to directly kill a dolphin by clearing a small forest or mining for uranium? This is absolutely ludicrous. I'm standing by my no vote, and I pray that people will get over the "Oh dolphins are so cute and sweet" junk and vote for what's best for their nation.

Some of the replies here are just disgusting.

Eat dolphins? how can you eat dolphins? do you eat your children too (or, for that matter, other people's children)?

Sorry guys, your evil arguments for voting "nay" just persuaded me that this resolution is really needed.

SAVE THE DOLPHINS.
:gundge: :fluffle: :gundge:

since it's marked "All Businesses," this affects everything


there just ISN'T a "fishing business" option.

Is it just me whose noticed that the more popular a proposal is in the view of the UN forum regulars, the less popular it is among the masses, and vice-versa?

Consider this one and the evolution thing; and compare that to "Defining Diplomatic Immunity" (I'm still bitter... http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/maddance3.gif)

We love dolphins in Waterana. In fact the Moon Dolphin is our national animal and most of this resolution has been law here for a long time. Our dolphins recieve almost as much protection as our children.

However we don't see why we need to force our love and veneration of this animal on every nation in the UN. We also don't see why the whole UN should be spending its time trying to protect one animal species when there are much more important things it could be concerned with.

Waterana has voted no to this resolution.

I like dolphins. Am I the only one here who supports this proposal? :(


No, actually I see that more nations are voting for the proposal than against. I peronally don't see why it's bad. It has a very good point, so I'm supporting it.

It does have a good point, but to enforce such discrimination on all acting UN nations? Preposterous.

"Some of the replies here are just disgusting.

Eat dolphins? how can you eat dolphins? do you eat your children too (or, for that matter, other people's children)?

Sorry guys, your evil arguments for voting "nay" just persuaded me that this resolution is really needed." - Aamericah

Unless you're a vegan of sorts, you have supported no real ANYTHING for that matter on your claim. Although, possibly as I discuss non-discrimination, we probably shouldn't think of our children much different than dolphins. But human tendancy and yearn for survival nearly forces those instincts upon us.

Why not start a resolution to try and force everyone to eat veggies for the rest of forever. -_-

We love dolphins in Waterana. In fact the Moon Dolphin is our national animal and most of this resolution has been law here for a long time. Our dolphins recieve almost as much protection as our children.

However we don't see why we need to force our love and veneration of this animal on every nation in the UN. We also don't see why the whole UN should be spending its time trying to protect one animal species when there are much more important things it could be concerned with.

Waterana has voted no to this resolution.


1. You seem to not know what politics is all about.

:headbang: QUOTE FROM GAME OFFICIAL FAQ: "The UN is your chance to mold the rest of the world to your vision..." :gundge:

2. If you have other suggestions for better resolutions, why don't you make a proposal and try to persuade 150 delegates to support it??? this way you would appreciate the efforts made.

It's not like there are 20 resolutions waiting in queue... this resolution IS NOT time spending.

Wow.

What a sad collection of preachy, moral-legislating, tree-hugging animist degenerates this institution has become. We're now defending the "civil rights" of dolphins over humanity's local national interests, their standard of living, and their own sovereign government.

Are we going to ask the dolphins to elect a UN Delegate next?

"BUT DOLPHINS ARE INNOCENT CREATURES AND SYMBOLS OF PEACE AND BEAUTY!!11!"

Ugh.

Seriously, if you furries want to have an inkling of your opponent's sentiment to your outrageous claims, take out "Dolphin" and put in "Unborn Child".

1. You seem to not know what politics is all about.

:headbang: QUOTE FROM GAME OFFICIAL FAQ: "The UN is your chance to mold the rest of the world to your vision..." :gundge:

2. If you have other suggestions for better resolutions, why don't you make a proposal and try to persuade 150 delegates to support it??? this way you would appreciate the efforts made.

It's not like there are 20 resolutions waiting in queue... this resolution IS NOT time spending.

I know what the FAQ says because I have read it several times.

I don't agree with the resolution and stated why. As a UN member I do have the right to do that, as does every other UN nation.

Some of the replies here are just disgusting.

Eat dolphins? how can you eat dolphins? do you eat your children too (or, for that matter, other people's children)?

:gundge: :fluffle: :gundge:

All right...now this brings up another dellemia here...not to be mean rude or anything else, but this is outragous!!! Asumptions like this lead to disasterous misunderstandings...now, its under my understanding that this revokes another bill previously passed, which was to protect another species of animals that serve the same functional purpose...now, what we truly need to look at is the fact that it does say, it effects all bussiness, and it even outlaws accidental injury of the doliphins...looking at this makes me realize that it would not be fair or just to pass this law...discussing it with others, i have now realized that voting for this would cause mine, and many other nations to decline in economy, so i must say nay...there is more to be said about this...i will finish my argument later...

...now, its under my understanding that this revokes another bill previously passed, which was to protect another species of animals that serve the same functional purpose...


1. :headbang: you understand wrong. this resolution does not revoke resolution #70.

2. Since you are labled "UN Category: Corrupt Dictatorship", I guess the main reason for you not to support it is that you didn't get as much bribe as you wanted.

3. Protecting the dolphins will in the long run do good for world economy. happy and mentally healthy people produce more and better products. I have never met a (good) soul that did not feel better after watching dolphins jump in oceans.

We don't see any reason why this resolution should even be up to vote, in the UN. A more general resolution on animal rights, or similar, sure, we might've been interested. But a a resolution dealing with one specific being, with such strict ruling, that isn't even a concern to most UN nations (an assumption)? Dolphins aren't threatened, are they?

We obviously oppose it.

OoC: When was the last time the majority voted against a resolution? Haven't seen it happen once, yet.

Actually, Aamericah, besides Spadedtarzania's few mistakes, he poses a good point. And I see no need to make derogatory comments towards the way he governs, for we are discussing the resolution pertaining to Dolphins.

Also, it looked to me that it was just making Aware of the accidental killing of dolphins, but not actually proposing outlawing the accidental, only the intentional.

And Diamond, I agree totally.

I completely agree with Diamond aswell, and we probably do need a more general resolution to cover animal rights or whatever. But this does not make it necessary to vote against this resolution - if its replaced by another at a later stage, so be it, but we might as well have this protection in the mean time while we wait for that opportunity, if its what we believe in.

We don't see any reason why this resolution should even be up to vote, in the UN. A more general resolution on animal rights, or similar, sure, we might've been interested. But a a resolution dealing with one specific being, with such strict ruling, that isn't even a concern to most UN nations (an assumption)? Dolphins aren't threatened, are they?

We obviously oppose it.

OoC: When was the last time the majority voted against a resolution? Haven't seen it happen once, yet.

1. this resolution is a compromise. try and get 150 delegates to approve a comprehensive more general resolution on animal rights, and let's see if you succeed (our region will support it, I'm sure).

2. dolphins are different from other animals. they are a combination of the following:
I. most highly intelligent. II. man-loving. III.freedom-loving. IV. mamals. V. cute VI. not dangerous under any circumstances.
and much more.

3. dolphins are being slaughtered by their thousands in east asia, and being accidentally killed by fishing nets across the oceans, while there IS a way to prevent that (buy existing special nets) at a VERY SMALL COST

2. Declares that the hunting or intentional killing of dolphins in extra-territorial waters is a crime according to the International Law, unless when done in circumstances where it is absolutely necessary for the saving of human lives or the prevention of an ecological disaster.
Greetings.

Ever since the Law of the Sea resolution was deleted, we have not found any legal definition of extra-territorial waters. In fact, we suspect that should the various territorial claims of the NSUN member states be assessed, we shall find that there are no such waters. This being the case, the proposal should be struck down on the grounds that it does not address any existing situation.

We submit this argu(e)ment to our colleagues for very careful consideration. We should not be passing proposals into resolutions when they address nothing. We further note that as this proposal shows no cost at all to industry, it does indeed violate the rules of resolutions in which they state that environmental-category resolutions should lay out the costs to industry.

"2. dolphins are different from other animals. they are a combination of the following:
I. most highly intelligent. II. man-loving. III.freedom-loving. IV. mamals. V. cute VI. not dangerous under any circumstances.
and much more." ~ Aamericah

You can prove none of these things, since there is no such thing as "mamals" also, we're training dolphins ourselves to be killing machines, which is a circumstance.

You can prove none of these things, since there is no such thing as "mamals" also, we're training dolphins ourselves to be killing machines, which is a circumstance.


OK, so i've made a typo.
If THIS is your smarta** excuse of an argument, then there is nothing to discuss really. :headbang: :sniper:

Some of the replies here are just disgusting.

:gundge: :fluffle: :gundge:

;) Cmon now, this is something for the entire world to deal with...being nice to a sea-going mammal???

Listen, the UN was established to protect the peoples of this world, not their pets or dinners.

All this proposal has accomplished is to create a thread where I can have some new ideas on how to eat and utilize the Dolphin in new arenas of interest.

BTW, the CBLS Dolphin festival is in full gear and on the eve of the finality of the proposal we are going to have a Dolphin rodeo followed by a Dolphin fight (very much like a bull fight) all the while everyone is invited to eat at the Dolphin roast/luau

Thanks again for the ideas :fluffle:

King
Hassan the Chop
--by my own hand

2. Since you are labled "UN Category: Corrupt Dictatorship", I guess the main reason for you not to support it is that you didn't get as much bribe as you wanted.


People are pretty free to role-play whatever type of nation they want, whether that's reflected by their national category or not. If this weren't the case, it would take weeks for someone to turn from their "capitalizt crime" RP to a "communist dictatorship" RP because they'd have to answer a bunch of issues to change their UN category.

That said, it doesn't really matter what one's nation's category is.

2. dolphins are different from other animals. they are a combination of the following:
I. most highly intelligent. II. man-loving. III.freedom-loving. IV. mamals. V. cute VI. not dangerous under any circumstances.
and much more.


As I mentioned earlier in this discussion, the single species of dolphin in Ashatar waters poses a very real threat to our maritime operations. It eats our ships for gods's sake! They are hardly cute.

3. dolphins are being slaughtered by their thousands in east asia,

Are they? Or is that a real life reference? If so I believe it doesn't count... This is the NSUN! Reality has no place here!

and being accidentally killed by fishing nets across the oceans, while there IS a way to prevent that (buy existing special nets) at a VERY SMALL COST

SMall cost my rump! OUr entire economy will take a hit - our fishing industry doubly so - and for what? So some envirnmentalist can feel all fuzzy about saving those "man loving" monsters that wreak so much havoc? They love man alright. Love the taste...

These creatures are so positively evil that the holy books of all seven state religions specifically condemn them. The levetii even go so far as to command that, and I quite, "The monster shall be hunted whereever it is found, and shall be spiked upon a spit. Slay the beast, lest it consume your children, and their children in turn. Let not the monster dwell in the seas, and drive it hence to the far away oceans, where it shall be cast upon the ice and consumed. Drive in to it many spits and spikes, that it may shed its blood in to the seas, and let it not return to the shore, for its blood is foul and bitter, and will lay waste to the pools of the sea from which you were raised."

I realise religion has no place in the decision-making process of the NSUN but, on the other hand, it offers a very real insight in to the history of my people, that they woudl be so fearful of this "cute" creature.

People are pretty free to role-play whatever type of nation they want ...
... it doesn't really matter what one's nation's category is.

That's true, of course, but one's views are reflected in the kind of government one chooses.

I just wanted to make a point, that I do not really care what a corrupt dictator think about our region's proposal... It just demonstrated the first clause of the said proposal:

RECONGNIZING that dolphins are extremely intelligent, man-loving and friendly mammals, that symbolize to millions around the world the spirit of freedom, happiness and togetherness.

The fishing industry may take a but of a hit, but imagine the result for the plastics industry and the netting industry (or whatever industry it would be that makes nets). Your fishing industry would lag for a few weeks while people adjusted to new nets, but the huge surge in demand for new nets, which we have already experienced here in Confabular since the introduction of this resolution, has dramatically reduced unemployment in our nation and the people would like the thank the UN for this employment opportunity.

That's true, of course, but one's views are reflected in the kind of government one chooses.

Not necessarily. It might. It might not. The only theing it is certain to reflect is how he or she answered issues and the "create a nation" questions for that nation.

1. :headbang: you understand wrong. this resolution does not revoke resolution #70.

2. Since you are labled "UN Category: Corrupt Dictatorship", I guess the main reason for you not to support it is that you didn't get as much bribe as you wanted.

3. Protecting the dolphins will in the long run do good for world economy. happy and mentally healthy people produce more and better products. I have never met a (good) soul that did not feel better after watching dolphins jump in oceans.

i apoligize about misunderstanding and i thant you. also, i am trying to step away from this dictatorship, i beleive people should choose for themselves. a problem with your third statement is that you are going off of a mere assumption.i know people who are mentally insane and angry, that produce better products than thoes that are happy. that is because they get their spiritual energy from their angry, as that is also where the obtain their inspiration from. But that is not the point...

this bill also states that there should be more importance on the lifes of these sea bearing creaters who have no direct effect on most nations ,i do beleive, than thoes of our nations people themselves! you think i am a dictator, but you are willing to destroy your people for these creatures that do nothing but entertain our society! can we truly support the destruction of people for the salvation of these animals! this bill need not be revoked but revised, to not put the lives of doliphins over the peoples, and not to harm thoes who cause accidental injuries to them...also, it should not effect all business...and by the way, it statres recalling, where bill #70 would not be in place anymore...isnt that similar to revoking?

this bill also states that there should be more importance on the lifes of these sea bearing creaters who have no direct effect on most nations ,i do beleive, than thoes of our nations people themselves!

i apoligize...i misread the bill on the fifth point...the rest of my arguement still stands...

My faith in the NSUN is really going down hill...There are some great proposals waiting to be approved, and we are wasting our time with this piece of dolphin poo!

The only reason people are voting for this resolution is because dolphins are cute, lovable, and they make people happy.

Lets see all the happy people when they have no money BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO MONEY from the impact of the economy, because the fishers had to make sure they don't kill the cute, lovable dolphins, so they had to spend more money trying to avoid these dolphins, which causes them to go bankrupt, which causes unemployment, which means there are less fish to process, so fish packaing factories also go downhill, with more unemployment... ect ect ect

This is an extreame case, but in nations that soely depend on fishery, this is a disaster. And don't get me started on the dolphins eating the fish! And why has NO ONE given any piece of information on the population of dolphins? Why don't we set up a commitee to do that, before we start trying to save the dolphins and cause unemployment?

And to truly support my claim that the NSUN is totally ridiculous, there is now a shark proposal, that basically does the same thing as this one, except with sharks. WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS END????

All of you regional delegates, start thinking about what you are voting for and vote in some serious resolutions!

[5th Degree Otaku #xxxxxx, Conclave of Friendship, Delegation to the UN, approaches the podium, and begins reading from a sheet of paper.]

"By the Will of the Eternal Kawaii. Esteemed Delegates and Representatives: After considered review by our Conclave of Beauty, it has been revealed to us that dolphins are manifestations of the Eternal Kawaii. Accordingly, a conclave of Discernment was summoned to learn the Holy Will in this matter.

"These are the words of the Eternal Kawaii: 'We grant Our favor upon this resolution, and urge all others to support it as well.'

"Thank you, and Hail the Eternal Kawaii!"

Consider this one and the evolution thing; and compare that to "Defining Diplomatic Immunity" (I'm still bitter... )
I don't blame you. Diplomatiic Immunity was a good proposal. Please revive it some day.

Dolphins are lovely, peaceful animals and don't deserve to get killed. Its cruel to kill them. *snip* That's what it seems like to me! what did dolphins ever do to you!OOC: What did dolphins ever do to ME? The bloody bastards have been associated with pretty much every majorly bad event in my life! As a child, my grandmother took my brother and I to the zoo. She bought him a dolphin toy but NOTHING for me! My mum was killed by an unprovoked dolphin attack while she was swimming in the Gulf of Mexico! When I was in college, I dated this wonderful woman, but we grew apart and eventually broke up because she was a marine biologist and started spending all her time with bloody dolphins. I strongly believe in a dolphin conspiracy against me. The only good dolphin is cooked medium with a garnish of lemon and cilantro. But to all you who say dolphins serve no purpose, this is not true - they flavour my tuna sandwich quite nicely (OK, the bit about my mum was a lie - she's never seen a dolphin and is alive and well, but the rest is true).

IC: As much as it makes us feel icky, we have to agree with the City by the Live Sea and Rogue Newbie. This proposal is entirely unreasonable and unneeded.

The only good dolphin is cooked medium with a garnish of lemon and cilantro.


The Armed Republic of Funkoslavia respectfully disagrees. This, in fact, is the only good dolphin:

FILET OF GRILLED DOLPHIN WITH A SUCCOTASH OF SHRIMP, BUTTER BEANS, YELLOW CORN AND FRESH SPINACH

Succotash:

1 tsp olive oil
1/2 cup red onion in 1/2 inch dice
1 tsp garlic, minced
1/2 cup red pepper in 1/2 inch dice
1 1/2 cups corn kernels, cooked
2 cups butter beans, cooked
20 large shrimp, peeled and deveined
2 cups fresh spinach, washed, stemmed and julienned
1 cup chicken gravy*
1/2 cup chicken broth
Salt and freshly ground pepper

Dolphin:

4 dolphin filets (6-7 ounces each), skinned
1/4 cup olive oil
Salt and freshly ground pepper

Heat the olive oil in a heavy-bottomed saucepan over medium heat. Add the onions, garlic, red peppers, and corn and saute, stirring, for 2-3 minutes or until the onions become translucent. Add the butter beans and mix well. Add the shrimp, spinach, chicken gravy and chicken broth. Simmer, stirring until the shrimp are pink have begun to curl up and the spinach is wilted. Season to taste.

Prepare grill according to manufacturer's instructions. Remove any dark reddish meat from the dolphin filets. Brush them with olive oil and sprinkle with salt and pepper. Place the filets on the hot grill, skin side up (you can recognize the skin side of the filet by its silvery sheen). Grill the filets 6-7 minutes per side.

Divide the shrimp succotash among four warm serving plates. Place the grilled dolphin on top and serve immediately. 4 servings.

there are many things people want to save, and i comend them for their efforts, but as was earlier pointed out, it will ruin the economy, and i do agree that it should not be passed...besides, for thoes of you including me whom have not tried doliphin meat, dont knock it untill you try it...

Mmmm.... we stand corrected. That recipe looks excellent. We shall try it right away, preferably with dolphins from The Free Land of Real Paradise.

:sniper:
Every cruel suggestion regarding dolphins will be dealt with by "The Empire of The ISRAELI MOSSAD", a member of our great region.

I feel sorry for all you sorry excused of UN members... :mp5:

[QUOTE=Real Paradise]:
Every cruel suggestion regarding dolphins will be dealt with by "The Empire of The ISRAELI MOSSAD", a member of our great region.QUOTE]

Please don't threaten me like that, or I'll have to have my general of the AF bomb you with my surplus supply of Dolphins....

Now stooooooooppppp ittttt.

King
Hassan the Chop
--by my own hand

Please don't threaten me like that, or I'll have to have my general of the AF bomb you with my surplus supply of Dolphins....

Now stooooooooppppp ittttt.


Sorry, chopped "king" :mp5: . The ISRAELI MOSSAD is far more radical than I am in this dolphin-loving business.

Oh, and by the way, YOUR AF?????? don't make me laugh. :p

Oh, and by the way, YOUR AF?????? don't make me laugh. :p

Ohhhh,

I am sorry little one, I didn't see how small your country is...Well we won't hurt you (I don't want to be considered a bully)

And I am pro-Israel

So please excuse me for now, because I must get back to my Dolphin feast


With Dolphin and BBQ sauce on my bib,

King
Hassan the Chop
--by my own hand

Earth is the only planet we know of with dolphins, and on Earth our only settlement is underground and has access to only a natural underground freshwater lake. In other words, if we're actually affected by this, we don't see how.

Now, back to researching recipes for dolfinstew, whatever that is.

Krioval is pleased to see that the delegates from the various nations are debating this resolution in a civilized and mature fashion. Oh, wait. You're not. Moving along...

an absurd and petty resolution. i'm not even entirely sure how it got endorsed by the delegates.

we've got some cracked out delegates =/ Seriously. everyone knows the real issues lie in sodomy. let's ban it!!!!!

This dolphin bashing has gone too far, and the dolphins among my constituents are beginning to complain. I have begun arming all dolphins in Kiloran's waters. Dolphin hunters beware!

Kiloran, don't worry. We have not, in any way, given any guns to the dolphin hunters to counteract this.

~Prompty finishes the sale of the new AI-equipped Uber Titan torpedoes~

Kiloran]
This resolution does not go far enough. I have objections to the following phrases:

"...unless when done in circumstances where it is absolutely necessary for the saving of human lives or the prevention of an ecological disaster. "

"...provided that no dolphin shall ever be preferred over human lives. "

These both make the assumption that dolphins are inferior to human beings. They are, in fact, our counterparts in the oceans. They are entitled to the same rights as human beings. Add to this the fact that no dolphin has ever been known to commit a crime, plus the fact that they are believed to be the chosen messengers of Njord and Poseidon, and a strong case can be made that to harm a dolphin is never acceptable.



Now you've convinced me: I am definetely voting against this resolution. ;)


My intention was not to argue against the proposal as a whole, but rather to voice my concerns about the wording of the proposal. I would consider supporting an ammended version of this proposal.

Kiloran, don't worry. We have not, in any way, given any guns to the dolphin hunters to counteract this.

~Prompty finishes the sale of the new AI-equipped Uber Titan torpedoes~

Your Uber Titan Torpedoes are useless in Kiloran's waters, anyway. For years, our navy has used dolphins to push torpedoes around and return them to the ship which launched them. They are brilliant at it, with a 100% success rate and a 0% casualty rate. It's the main reason no Talruum ship has ever successfully landed on our shores!

Since you insist on making war on dolphins, though, my dolphins have been given Poseidon Limpet Mines, which they seem to be naturally adept at placing on the hulls of attacking ships. They even figured out how to properly set the timers.

Kiloran']I would consider supporting an ammended version of this proposal.
Once it hits the voting floor, it's win or lose, pass or fail. Amendments are not technically possible. This is what you have to work with, so make your choice.

Kiloran']Your Uber Titan Torpedoes are useless in Kiloran's waters, anyway. For years, our navy has used dolphins to push torpedoes around and return them to the ship which launched them. They are brilliant at it, with a 100% success rate and a 0% casualty rate. It's the main reason no Talruum ship has ever successfully landed on our shores!

What do you know? It seems we accidentally forgot to include our offer of proximity warheads. Now, let me just ship those out...

Edit: Mines? That would be nice, except these are launched from international waters. You mine those, you're talking to all of your neighbors as to why you blew up their boats.

Talruum tried proximity warheads, too. The problem is, the dolphins swim up from behind. They're really fast and they know how to use jet sleds.

Okay, so we just have to include our new offer of free graviton drives in the warheads. Let's see your dolphins beat Mach 29!

OOC: Heh. This is fun. Let's see how far into ubertech we can actually go.

Now, if only I actually had something to launch torpedos from that didn't call space its medium...

Grilled Mustard-Crusted Dolphin

8 oz. Dolphin Fillets
Salt And Pepper -- to taste
2 Tbsp Butter -- melted
4 Tbsp Dijon Mustard
1/2 C Bread Crumbs
1 Oz Chopped Fresh Herbs
2 Tbsp Mustard Seeds

Season dolphin with salt and pepper; rub with a little melted butter; reserve remaining butter.

Over very hot grill (500°) cook dolphin only until grill marks appear. Remove from grill at once.

Rub Dijon mustard on filet; top with mixture of remaining butter, bread crumbs, fresh herbs and mustard seeds. Bake in oven at 350° until dolphin is brown on top and moist in center.

Makes 2 servings.

Dam I live in a Land locked Country, I would like to work a trade deal with any country that would like to provide dolphin or whale meat to my people. We want to try this recipe out, maybe make it the national dish.

I reject this resoultion based on the idea that the UN has no right to say what people eat..

Technically, it just calls for preventing hunting, not eating. Manage to bioengineer synthetic dolphin chops, and you can eat to your heart's content.

We also note that killer whales are dolphins too.

I guess that makes killer whales cannibals.

Be kind to dolphins, they could turn out to be the second most intelligent creature on the earth (and man could turn out to be the third).

Refitting nets and things to be more dolphin friendly would be costly. Sorry dolphins, but money is more important. But Guhreg deosn't really have a native population of dolphins anyway, the Mahi-Mahi tribe hunted them to extinction in The Dominion of Guhreg hundreds of years ago.

Lets put more important resolutions on the floor to be debated instead of this waste of time!

I agree with this. Yes dolphins are very inteligent and they can do amazing tricks at Sea World, but please why is the UN taking its time trying to make them a protected animal. Give me a better reason. If there are accidental deaths, how is passing a law going to stop that? They were accidental in the first place! It would be like trying to pass a law that makes it illeagal to accidentally shoot someone. How are going to stop an accident from happening?
Yes it is nice that we care about the dolphins so much but please this is the UN, don't waste our time on something so small. Protect the dolphin in your own nation and leave the UN out of it! :headbang:

:mad: This proposal is a preposterous idea! I stand firmly against this kind of thing because it is NOT a worldwide issue. If dolphins are a creature you wish to protect then do it on your own time, in your own nation. Don’t waste the U.N.’s time on this when we could be voting on a useful proposal. So I implore you to vote against this proposition.

We recently recieved some information that convinced us to support this resolution.

My fellow delegates and members of the United Nations, the people of Nevermoore would love to know what this institution has come to. I am referring to the current proposal on the floor of the U.N.: The Dolphin Protection Act. Surely there are more pressing matters than the protection of some fish - I am sorry - mammals. Has this proud institution become so bogged down by bureaucracy that it is losing meaning? Are we passing resolutions just for the sake of passing resolutions? Surely there is a war or something we could all butt into! I mean, sheesh!

In conclusion, We bid you all to reject this petty act. Some lands do not even HAVE dolphins! I mean really! We have better things to do with our time than to consider the safety of dolphins!

(OOC: Sorry about the other topic. You think I would see this sticky at the TOP OF THE PAGE, but no.)

And at the first wire, the "cute" vote appears to be leading...


Votes For: 3,814

Votes Against: 1,642

Seeing that this resoultion made it for a vote, Sidestreamer's Ambassador Welsh wipes his forehead in sheer disgust. "What kind of idiot hippiestains took our NSUN," he asked himself, under breath. With visible anger and frustration, he meanders his way to the floor and makes a terse statement:

Idiots. This proposal, the Protection of Dolphins Act, fails to describe the marine wildlife being protected. First off, the Flipper you are all familiar with is more accurately referred to as a porpoise, not a dolphin.

http://curry.edschool.virginia.edu/go/Whales/FieldTrips/SWAdventure/Images/Porpoise.jpg
Exhibit A: Porpoises! This is the porpoise, a marine mammal so frivilously known for being intelligent, yet there were several reports, internationally, of individuals who were sexually assaulted by porpoises! Now, they can be trained to sweep landmines in times of war, but otherwise, do we really want to save this?

Actually, these questions are irrelevant, because this is not the Protection of Porpoises Act, but the protection of these game fish!


http://www.matty-j.com/images/Dolphin_fish_in_Costa_Rica.jpg

My citizens eat these for a living!

Besides, how does the insurance industry hurt dolphins?

I vote a resounding NO on this assasine proposal.

We recently recieved some information that convinced us to support this resolution.
are disscusions not held in the UN anymore...this is a trivial factor but still...discussions remain in the UN not between Nations.

Don't get me wrong-Greater Boblandia loves and protects dolphins. They're intelligence has been proven by our scientists to be comparable to humans. We certainly don't permit the hunting of humans (even if you're an ex-Russian general with your own island), so why dolphins?

That being said, this is not a resolution we can support. Not only do dolphins simply not exist in many U.N. member nations, but the (flawed) branding of this resolution as affecting "all industries" has us greatly concerned that, due simply to game mechanics, the passing of this proposal will have dire repercussions against our economy. Possibly worst of all is the fact that this is, on its most basic level, a case of U.N. micromanaging going too far. We're talking about a separate piece of legislation for a specific scientific family, here. It's simply too much of a price to ask for something that will protect such a small group, especially from those who will receive no benefit whatsoever.

are disscusions not held in the UN anymore...this is a trivial factor but still...discussions remain in the UN not between Nations.
Discussions may be held wherever you want. That particular piece of infrmation mentioned by DLE came as a result of a discussion on a off-site forum. Why shouldn't we discuss resolutions on our own boards?

are disscusions not held in the UN anymore...this is a trivial factor but still...discussions remain in the UN not between Nations.

The discussion was held on soil owned by UN nations and operated in relation to the UN. And the text of such a discussion is not available because what was discussed is a private matter, between only those of us who discussed it. There are interests involved in the UN that do not always make their presense known.

Don't get me wrong-Greater Boblandia loves and protects dolphins.... It's simply too much of a price to ask for something that will protect such a small group, especially from those who will receive no benefit whatsoever.

:( I welcome everyone that is a dolphin-lover.

Nevertheless, your arguments cannot be accepted.

THERE IS such a thing as "existance value" (ask the Law&Economics scholars). It's a fact that people AROUND THE WORLD are ready to but tuna-cans that cost 10 cents more just because the tunas were fished without hurting the dolphins.

(I know, I know... "let the market work for itself" and all this adam smith's BS that only made people more miserable... The problem is, that people buy this dolphin-safe tuna-cans, and then turn on the tv, and watch dolphins being slaughtered with the utmost cruelty - and they lose energy to get up in the morning and go to work. ... and another thing: look at the votes, the market for votes never lies...)

Even countries without a coast-line, acknowledge the fact that dolphins are unique, extremely intelligent, and want them saved (even willing to pay hard cash for it).

:) SAVE THE DOLPHINS :)

Originally posted by Real Paradise
Even countries without a coast-line, acknowledge the fact that dolphins are unique, extremely intelligent, and want them saved (even willing to pay hard cash for it).
That a fact? Call it cynicism, but somehow I have doubts that a capitalizt nation residing in a different solar system will be willing to take a tax hike or economy downgrade for a creature that they've never even heard about. The only reason this proposal will make it is due to its gut appeal. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go initiate some economic damage control.

Ardchoille votes YES for the following reasons:

1. We do indeed recognise that dolphins are intelligent, etc, etc. And cute, too.

2. We find the "existence value" argument of the delegate from Real Paradise both convincing and novel. (So that's the serious bit over).

3. Fatus Maximus appealed for support. In happy memory of his delegate's raucous nights in the Strangers' Bar, he's got it.

4. We want the dolphins to take us with them when they leave. (Bob Flibble, should you want to re-think your stance, there are still some representatives of the flippered community hanging about on our coastline.)

In anticipation of the cutesy proposal passing the UN, Saint Uriel has increased fishing ten-fold. We are now purposefully hunting dolphins so that we may kill as many as possible before the ban. We will keep the carcasses on ice and cordially invite all UN delegates and members to our islands to celebrate the passage or defeat of this proposal with a dolphin cook-out. We'll provide the wine, rum, and dolphin - you provide the merriment. Thank you.

And just as a gesture of good will, we'll be sending one hundred kg of dolphin steaks to the Free Land of Real Paradise in a nice, big gift basket. Enjoy!

Excuse me please:

But does anyone have a good recipe for blackened Dolphin?

Just found out how delicious dolphin meat really is,

King
Hassan the Chop
--eating Dolphin hash with eggs :p

I'm sorry I didn't think of this myself. Dolphins are too intelligent, graceful, and peaceful to be senselessly killed. Dolphins are unfairly unprotected, even though under scientific terms they can be categorized as whales, and whales are protected. Bodaland will never stand for the murdering of its national animal by any nation.

dolphin safe tuna still upsets me.
siaka will not support this

The Republic of Azrael Dahaka is against the current U.N. proposal because it will deny income to the lowest economic classes. Fishermen are not renowned for their wealth, and to regulate their livelihood by making them liable for any dolphins they may catch while fishing is madness. The workers of coastal economies will be devastated by such a regulation.

Why save dolphins? I say, "survival of the fittest." Let the dolphins who are smart enough to miss the nets survive and reproduce, and let the rest of them die. Let nations make laws for dolphins themselves, in their own national waters.

The Kingdom of Moyala may have to not support this resolution.

By recalling Res 70 it removes the protection from Whales, only to give it to Dophins. Why not write one which protects both?

The Kingdom of Moyala may have to not support this resolution.

By recalling Res 70 it removes the protection from Whales, only to give it to Dophins. Why not write one which protects both?

I agree, a new resolution needs to be written. I noticed that this proposition stated that Res 70 ACCIDENTALLY left dolphins out. I disagree. they are two totally different issues. they should be contained in two different resolutions

The Kingdom of Moyala may have to not support this resolution.

By recalling Res 70 it removes the protection from Whales, only to give it to Dophins. Why not write one which protects both?


:gundge: WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!! :gundge:

Recalling is only a way of refferance.

This DOES NOT IN ANY WAY remove the protection from whales.

Please reconsider your vote.

:) SAVE THE DOLPHINS :)

Discussions may be held wherever you want. That particular piece of infrmation mentioned by DLE came as a result of a discussion on a off-site forum. Why shouldn't we discuss resolutions on our own boards?

I have brought up the proposal within my region. I think others should also do the same.

The Empire of Draconiae supports this legislation. Dolphins are intelligent and sensitive creatures and our citizens have long bristled at their indiscriminate killing. We have even ordered our Navy to hunt down and sink Dolphin killing fishing vessels that operate within our territorial waters. It is the hope of His Imperial Majesty The Emperor Draconiae XXI, and of the people of the Empire, that the United Nations passes this resolution, for the sake of the Dolphins and our future generations.

We have even ordered our Navy to hunt down and sink Dolphin killing fishing vessels that operate within our territorial waters.

:p Thank you for your brave actions :p

I guess Real Paradise never bothered to research dolphin behavior, or Real Paradise would have discovered that dolphins eat their own young.
Friendly?

I'm sure they'll find a way to save themselves, along with the mice.

I'm sure they'll find a way to save themselves, along with the mice.

HEAR HEAR!!!!

If their dumb enough to get caught in nets, then that's their problem. If they're so intelligent, then why are they supposingly prone to get caught in our nets? If they're intelligent, they will figure out for themselves how to avoid these nets.

Down with Dolphins!!!!! Kill them all!!!

Now maybe some of you will believe me that most of the voters here don't even read the resolutions...

No where in this resolutiono on any resolution that has been passed by the United Nations does it say that these dolphins are, were, or are going to be endangered? Wouldn't this be a great reason to protect the dolphins, if that were the case? The fact that NO ONE in the United Nations has given proof of them depleating in numbers causes my country to strongly consider voting against this resolution. It seems the only reason we are saving these dolphins is because they're cute. Lets put more important resolutions on the floor to be debated instead of this waste of time! Unless ANY nation can give me a really strong reason to save these dolphins, my country will vote against this resolution!

Thank you. i will shut up now.

Do we really need to wait for animals to become endangered before we protect them?

As we can see, there is a big problem with creating a resolution that only protects Dolphins. If dolphins are sombody's national animal, why should that get priority over the Splurgative, or any other country's national animal. Splurgeland understands that every animal is important to the environment and keeping the eco-systems running smoothly etc. Splurgeland also understands that this is an issue on which many people are opinionated. Stortinget sees no reason to protect Dolphins, so long as fishing them is not going wipe them out. I think fishing should be tightly regulated, not too much as it harms countries' economies but in a way that the fishing is done in a way that is not threataning to the Dolphins. It is for this reason that The Splurgeland Storting says "No" to this resolution in favour of a different one on the basis of what has been said above.

The resolution should define which animals it covers by standard classification terms, and should not be affecting ALL businesses. I am shocked to find that banning my nation's fishermen from hunting dolphins is going to put a serious dent in my book-publishing industry, and you should have heard the commotion in the middle of Off-Beige Square this afternoon from the Demographika Plastics Manufacturing Consortium at the impact this resolution will have on their industry.
Demographika had voted No to this resolution, and we are seriously questioning whether or not to leave this institution should this resolution get to the eve of passage.


OOC: Seriously, all businesses? ALL? How did that ever seem like a good idea? Pick the closest category to the resolution's subject - that would do. If there isn't a suitable category, then don't write silly resolutions.

It would be impossible to omit hurting the Dolphins and successfully keep our fishing industries for being hurt. We catch fish through large indescrimanent nets, sure if we haul a doplhin aboard it could be thrown it back, however we would not be responisble for dolphins who drown in our net while submerged. Even if we use sonar to detect them under water it would be to costly bring them up to save a single dolphin. Also in my nation dolphin is a delicasy and the people would be outraged if the could no longer have such. Besides if your dolphin population is running low, you can always clone some more or establish capitve breeding programs. Dont make other countries suffer for your trivial concerns.

Do we really need to wait for animals to become endangered before we protect them?

Yes, because what is the point in protecting an animal when it is doing fine in the current ecosystem? The only thing that will do is increase they're population and cause another animal to become endangered, and then, we will need (heaven forbid) another resolution to protect the tuna!

People, before trying to destroy economy, wait until there's a problem.

PS please don't write in other colours besides black, because I like to hear(ok, read) every country's opinion, and when i have to read it in colours like red or lime, it adds to my already present headache. I know that no harm was intended, but please keep that in mind. Thanx :p

I don't know about how other people feel, but ever sicne they took dolphin out of tuna cans the tuna doesn't taste as good.

I don't know about how other people feel, but ever sicne they took dolphin out of tuna cans the tuna doesn't taste as good.

When was dolphin ever in tuna cans? That would be a pretty hard mistake to make when preparing the tuna for the canning machine.

I don't know about how other people feel, but ever sicne they took dolphin out of tuna cans the tuna doesn't taste as good.
So now a species' survival is dependant upon how it tastes? Shall we legalize cannibalism then? I mean, if some people like the taste of human flash...

This proposition is complete rubbish, firstly somebody must have something better to campaign for than the lives of dolphins and secondly why just dolphins, the argument that they 'are intelligent' supports a viewpoint that only animals capable of understanding more should be saved and on basis the animals with lesser intelligence are less important, maybe a proposal calling for the saving of lemmings is perhaps in order, i think not. I am shocked at how many people support this proposal and am frankly appauled that anyone could even see it fit of a vote. My vote against the proposal is certain.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Looks like another case of "I really want to propose a U.N. resolution but I can't think of anything, so this is the best I could come up with."

Jeeze, I'm surrounded by socialists and PETA-heads.

IC: You can't be for real can you?? I mean come on now there fish Dolphins taste good. And do you think the NON-UN nations will follow this?? So even if you get the UN nations to stop you can't stop the NON-UN nations. Not to mettion there are too many clauses in this Resoultion. The Mormon Church clearly votes NO!!!! We also say if you want to save the Dolphins so bad gets some and put them in a ZOO or something. This Resoultion will not stop the killing of them!!!!

OOC: i really love dolphins but its not how i am playing my nation ;)

Can you force the non-UN nations to do anything that is passed in the UN? Rejecting a proposal because of that is surely a bad way to vote on things.

I'm totally shocked and horrified by how people can think that eating Dolphins is evil. How is eating Dolphin different from eating cows or pigs? As long as they are properly farmed, like we do in Flangegrobble, why remove this delicious and nutritious food source?

If this resolution is passed, we will have one of our major food sources removed - we will have no choice but to reinstate our Soylent Green project.

If this resolution is passed, we will have one of our major food sources removed - we will have no choice but to reinstate our Soylent Green project.
Greetings.

We note with amusement that this is a rather interesting reference. However, it might date from an age too long past to have the desired impact on all members here. We hereby supply a footnote: 'Soylent Green' is a food product, but its main ingredient is something which might be considered a tad more repugnant than dolphin flesh.

I'm totally shocked and horrified by how people can think that eating Dolphins is evil. How is eating Dolphin different from eating cows or pigs? As long as they are properly farmed, like we do in Flangegrobble, why remove this delicious and nutritious food source?

If this resolution is passed, we will have one of our major food sources removed - we will have no choice but to reinstate our Soylent Green project.

I don't eat meat (nor does 89% of my nation), and thus we see no harm in saving this beloved creature of the sea.

I love dolphins and I think we should do all we can to save them. I also kinda want to ride one.... I've heard it's very fun. Better than riding camels.

We don't eat dolphins. We just sail into international waters and stab them over the head repeatadly with a a pointed stick. You should try it; it's very relaxing.
Still even if this resolution passes, we'll still do it. We'll just have to drive them into Cobdenian waters first...

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The entire Awful Circle region has long been plagued by the Dolphin menace. They have scoured our oceans clean of fish and regularly attack swimmers. The Awful Circle region has hereby elected to deplete the surrounding ocean of any and all dolphin species through hunting, burning, and eating.

I haven't been here very long but all I know is this is ridiculous...whaling-fine...but dolphins?? I've only heard of one species that's endangered and that's the pink dolphin (also known as the Chinese White Dolphin), but that's it. Well, I give up...we already have enough extinct animals, which is really sad and depressing. So yea, I shall vote for.

I completely agree that dolphins should be protected. That way, in a few years, when their population has risen, we can submit a resolution legalizing dolphin hunting (under strict rules) because, frankly, dolphins is good eatin'.

I love dolphins and I think we should do all we can to save them. I also kinda want to ride one.... I've heard it's very fun. Better than riding camels.
My citizens are regularly engaged in "riding" dolphins. They seem to enjoy it, and the dolphins usually die afterward, since their blowholes are plugged up. So, it's a win-win.

JUST to inform you all, for carrying on this preposterous ordeal, the Nation of Vogrand Sky will re-instate its "Sea Mammal War Machine" Program.

You may not know, but plutonium, and fresh dolphin meat together cause a disastrous reaction! Our scientists have concluded that the Dolphtonium Bombs, as they will be called, produce a destructive wave of about 26.766666 times that of the most advanced nuclear war-head.

As well, we will continue to harvest and train dolphins as the primary sea-unit during war. Able to swim faster than any human, and more efficiently. Any and all of your war vessels would be in the palm of our great nations hands.

oh dear, look who went too far, the point remains that the resolution is a complete shambles, is selectively favourable and is pointless, i firmly believe that the resolution can be overturned if everyone here sends an e-mail explaining how the resolution is a shambles to at least 3 people who are for itm, in this way we can overturn the looming result.

Why favor dolphins over other animals?

i firmly believe that the resolution can be overturned if everyone here sends an e-mail ... to at least 3 people who are for itm, in this way we can overturn the looming result.

:p ;) you can start by sending them to ME... ;) :p


Oh, and thanks for all you cruel evil dolphin haters :mp5: Since you started to reveal your evil arguments, the vote tally went further and further to our good dolphin-loving side. :p

I was really affraid that people wouldn't vote for that thinking "everyone loves dolphins, there's no real problem". Well, you evil-doers :mp5: just proved my point. :cool:


:) SAVE THE DOLPHINS :)

Dolphins, being equal in success and glory as humankind should be granted full citizenship rights equal to humans of the same stature.

What a waste of time I say lets kill all the Dolphins and invade his country too!!!!

Oh, and thanks for all you cruel evil dolphin haters :mp5: Since you started to reveal your evil arguments, the vote tally went further and further to our good dolphin-loving side. :p

Nope. It started going up when I sent out an interpretation that "saving" and "exterminating" are the same thing.

:p ;) you can start by sending them to ME... ;) :p


Oh, and thanks for all you cruel evil dolphin haters :mp5: Since you started to reveal your evil arguments, the vote tally went further and further to our good dolphin-loving side. :p

I was really affraid that people wouldn't vote for that thinking "everyone loves dolphins, there's no real problem". Well, you evil-doers :mp5: just proved my point. :cool:


:) SAVE THE DOLPHINS :)

Exactly how am I an "evil-doer" if I vote against this? I'm not against dolphins. I'm against stupid proposals that have consequences no one seems to acknowledge until they're hit with them, are poorly written, and have supporters who make pathetic ad hominem attacks on those who disagree. This happens to be one of those proposals, so I vote no.

OOC: Chill with the smileys.

I don't eat meat (nor does 89% of my nation), and thus we see no harm in saving this beloved creature of the sea.

Pah; we outlawed vegetarianism many years ago - the cruelty to the humble carrot (it's either boiled or eaten alive - how can you people live with it. and the continual weak and weediness of our general populace made it essential.

So it looks like Flangegrobblians will be eating Long Pig for a while. Anybody for a vegitarian-burger?

I still have not seen one argument for why we should vote for the proposal - automatically gainsaying any counter argument by just calling it evil is just childish.

:rolleyes: wait this is for real? I mean your actually trying to make it against inter national law to kill dolphins in unclaimed waters? This is what the problem with the UN is. We are wasting are time on some stupid over grown fish? I can't support this crap. Think of what will happen to the processed Dolphin Industry in my country it will be erased thats hundreds of jobs gone for some fish. The Young Warriors' citizens love the taste of Dolphin meat. I for one am not going to tell my people they can't eat one of their favorite foods just because some hippies think the look pretty. The point is people only care about the cute and cuddely animals. No one would care if I was ripping thousands of Sea Ravens(Hemitripterus americanus) out of the ocean for food, fun, or just because I can. Screw the Dolphin I wan't some Dolphin noodle Caserol tonight.

dolphins Rule!!!save The Dolphhins!!!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/modedit.jpgDon't do page breaking sizes and hugely long sentences. Next time, we get mean.

dolphins Rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!save The Dolphhins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've really had it with this. Come ON people, try to debate this in a reasonable...
Never mind. This is a tree-hugger issue. A reasonable manner doesn't exist.

Seriously, this topic either needs to be locked or some order needs to be brought to it. Moreover, this highlights a serious problem with the UN. How can we continue to allow uninformed people to vote based on cute and cuddly rather than facts?

[QUOTE=Cobdenia]We don't eat dolphins. We just sail into international waters and stab them over the head repeatadly with a a pointed stick. You should try it; it's very relaxing.
Still even if this resolution passes, we'll still do it. We'll just have to drive them into Cobdenian waters first...QUOTE]

Hey thank you Cobdenia for another great idea of things to do with dolphins. Please come join our nation as we celebrate the dolphin festival with all kinds of neat things to do with dolphins--You can be the guest of honor at the "stab and beat a dolphin with a pointed stick contest" :fluffle:

Please keep the ideas coming, and we still need a recipie for blackened dolphin

King
Hassan the chop
--killing dolphins with my bare hand

Well, alright, in the spirit of international cooperation, and because City by the Live Sea specifically asked for it:

Blackened Dolphin:
1 1/2 c. butter
2 tsp. black pepper
2 tsp. red pepper
2 tsp. white pepper
2 tsp. garlic powder
1 tsp. onion powder
1 tsp. thyme
1 tsp. oregano
2 tsp. crushed basil leaves
2 tsp. crushed parsley flakes
2 tsp. salt
4 lbs. dolphin filets 1/2-inch thick (preferably from international waters)

Combine dry spices in flat platter or pan. Melt butter in pan large enough to accommodate filets singlely. Heat large cast-iron skillet super hot over a gas flame.
Dip each filet in melted butter; roll in spices to coat evenly. Shake off excess and fry in skillet about 2 minutes per side. The spices are blackened by intense heat, leaving meat white and moist. Serves 8.

I've really had it with this. Come ON people, try to debate this in a reasonable...
Never mind. This is a tree-hugger issue. A reasonable manner doesn't exist.

Seriously, this topic either needs to be locked or some order needs to be brought to it. Moreover, this highlights a serious problem with the UN. How can we continue to allow uninformed people to vote based on cute and cuddly rather than facts?

You're new to the UN, aren't you? Facts and reason don't have much sway when you're talking about something people make into stuffed animals.

Currently, the vote is running about 2:1 in favor. So if you want it gone, you've got alot of telegramming ahead of you.

Well, alright, in the spirit of international cooperation, and because City by the Live Sea specifically asked for it:

Blackened Dolphin:
1 1/2 c. butter
2 tsp. black pepper
2 tsp. red pepper
2 tsp. white pepper
2 tsp. garlic powder
1 tsp. onion powder
1 tsp. thyme
1 tsp. oregano
2 tsp. crushed basil leaves
2 tsp. crushed parsley flakes
2 tsp. salt
4 lbs. dolphin filets 1/2-inch thick (preferably from international waters)

Combine dry spices in flat platter or pan. Melt butter in pan large enough to accommodate filets singlely. Heat large cast-iron skillet super hot over a gas flame.
Dip each filet in melted butter; roll in spices to coat evenly. Shake off excess and fry in skillet about 2 minutes per side. The spices are blackened by intense heat, leaving meat white and moist. Serves 8.

That really doesn't help the situation. I know that as soon as this resolution is passed (as that is the outcome that is the most likely) i will be repealing this resolution to kingdom come. Who's with me???

Cute and cuddly are not reasons to vote for a resolution. And all you people out there who are voting for the resolution because of that, you can kiss you economies good-bye and ours too.

Ermm, dolphins? There are millions of endangered species across the world and you pick dolphins? Dolphins are hardly on the edge of extinction compared to many other species. If you're going to be environmental at least do it properly.

The UN is just ridiculous I left it months ago.

The dolphin-farming coastal community of Wasan, south-western Chryse Island, wishes to twin with an appropriate town or community in the fair nation of Saint Uriel for the purposes of promoting and sharing peace, understanding, friendship and recipe books.

Janet Blyleven
Deputy Speaker for International Relations

What does this resolution actually effect? How will this in any way effect the game?

What does this resolution actually effect? How will this in any way effect the game?
In Game Mechanics terms, if this passes your economy will take a hit, if it fails, then nothing changes.

So after reading the resolution, two things became clear:
a) The onus or spirit behind it is to be environmentally friendly
b) The resolution, as a funtion of it's spirit, is a contradicton in itself.
Now perhaps I am just not educated in the jargon of the UN forum, however when I see "recall", I assume it means take out. So why are we recalling Res. 70 (protecting whales) to protect dolphins. Doesn't that contradict the spirit of this resolution: to promote environmental safety? Allowing for the mindless killing of one acquatic animal so that another can be preserved in some twisted, non logical fashion is not something that the Rabid World Dominators is willing to endorse. Oh, we recognize that dolphins have been left out from Res 70, but we also realize that this resolution is calling for the destruction of the economy of several coastal countries in order to promote the sanctity of life of an animal that tastes oh so good.

One more thing that should be taken into consideration is enforcement. Before the Rabid World Dominators will contemplate endorsing this legislation, it must have assurance that it will be followed. Is the forwarding nation proposing that we send out patrol boats into international water to thwart the attempts of poachers. If so, how is this being funded? Who is providing the necessary resources?

In essence we can see that this resolution fails on three counts:
a) It, despite assurances that it won't, wrecks the economy of several coastal nations (unless the forwarding nation is prepared to pay those nations the equivalent they would make from hunting dolphins, which I seriously doubt)
b) It is, by a funtion of its spirit (or motivating force) a contradiction, as it calls for the removal of a ban on killing one acquatic animal to ensure the safety of another.
c) It has no plausible plan of action to ensure enforcement of this resolution considering it lacks in ever improtant details such as funding and resources.

For anyone to remotely consider this resolution, it should address the above mentioned three criteria first. Needless to say Rabid World Dominators votes 'nay'.

The Government OF The Combine Selective is very distant on the subject of animal rights, we have no time to worry about what rights dolphins, squirrles, or antelopes have unless they can be exploited either for an econimical purpose or one of mass civil enforcement.

Now perhaps I am just not educated in the jargon of the UN forum

I strongly encourage investing in a dictionary, reading entire threads, and considering the past resolutions and the current stickies on this forum before jumping headlong into a critique that's based on so much inaccurate assumptions. Jargon has nothing to do with the meaning of the word "recall", anyway. As in "If I recall correctly, Sunday was the fifth of June".

It, despite assurances that it won't, wrecks the economy of several coastal nations (unless the forwarding nation is prepared to pay those nations the equivalent they would make from hunting dolphins, which I seriously doubt)

Cry me a river. This is what UN resolutions are designed to do - punish some people and reward others. Some resolutions are things I absolutely adore, and others I'd rather banish to some far-off part of the netherworld, to never again see light of day. Economies are wrecked by the UN every month at the least. I couldn't care much less.

It is, by a funtion of its spirit (or motivating force) a contradiction, as it calls for the removal of a ban on killing one acquatic animal to ensure the safety of another.

Since "recall" means "looking back at" or "remembering", you couldn't be more wrong. Also, since the rules clearly state that a resolution can only be modified by using the repeal function, you show obvious ignorance of the procedures that bind the UN.

It has no plausible plan of action to ensure enforcement of this resolution considering it lacks in ever improtant details such as funding and resources.

Since producing a very specific means of funding (like a direct tax) or an international policing agency are illegal, that might just explain why they weren't mentioned in detail. Go figure.

I strongly encourage investing in a dictionary, reading entire threads, and considering the past resolutions and the current stickies on this forum before jumping headlong into a critique that's based on so much inaccurate assumptions. Jargon has nothing to do with the meaning of the word "recall", anyway. As in "If I recall correctly, Sunday was the fifth of June".

Cry me a river. This is what UN resolutions are designed to do - punish some people and reward others. Some resolutions are things I absolutely adore, and others I'd rather banish to some far-off part of the netherworld, to never again see light of day. Economies are wrecked by the UN every month at the least. I couldn't care much less.

Since "recall" means "looking back at" or "remembering", you couldn't be more wrong. Also, since the rules clearly state that a resolution can only be modified by using the repeal function, you show obvious ignorance of the procedures that bind the UN.

Since producing a very specific means of funding (like a direct tax) or an international policing agency are illegal, that might just explain why they weren't mentioned in detail. Go figure.

;) Thank you Krioval for addressing and explaining, once and for all (I hope), this repeated issues.

Thank you also, of course, for your great nation's support.


:) SAVE THE DOLPHINS :)

The Government OF The Combine Selective is very distant on the subject of animal rights, we have no time to worry about what rights dolphins, squirrles, or antelopes have unless they can be exploited either for an econimical purpose or one of mass civil enforcement.

Ditto. Make a better resolution.

The main issue that most people seem to be missing is that:
a) they are dolphins
b) nobody cares about dolphins, and
c) dolphin killing, intentional or otherwise is quite fun.

This resolution would appear to be one from a pot-smoking hippie, who wants the world to hold hands and love itself. The fact of the matter is that, rather than make nations conform to what this nation wants, we should make it an issue of voluntary nature. Better still, I propose that we scrap the banning of killing dolphins, and rather change it to the legalization of it, and to go even further still, make it compulsory.

Surucucu is a nation that understands and respects Darwin's theory. Only the strongest survive, and as we are the strongest (at least in intelligence, although some may argue that dolphins are the smarter species. I, on the other hand, am yet to see a dolphin drive an automobile) we should flex our muscle.

Animals learn to respect brute force. Too long has this serial pest stolen the fish that we need to survive. There are nations who rely on dolphin killing. Say no to not killing dolphins!

:cool:

THANKS FOR ALL THE SUPPORTERS

SAVE THE DOLPHINS

:cool:


:) :p :fluffle: :p :)

we win
:cool:

THANKS FOR ALL THE SUPPORTERS

SAVE THE DOLPHINS

:cool:


:) :p :fluffle: :p :)

I wouldn't go that far as to say that we win. Anything can happen within the next 50 hours or so.

Of course, 3,700 votes difference are a source for CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM, but there is still much work to be done.

I hope you did not stop lobying yet.

There are two points i want to make:

1) It seems to me a rather pointless exercise to outlaw the hunting of this then later outlawing the hunting of that. If anything, this should be an amendment to the Whaling Act mentioned in this Act.

2) Why have we so arbitrarily chosen to make the dolphin a protected species? There are many animals in the world worthy of protection and despite the drafters excuses of animal intellect methinks the real reason is selfishness, as is implied by the writer of the first page of this thread.

For these reasons i have voted against the resolution.

President of Queeroland
Founder and Regional Delegate of Queerdurham

1) It seems to me a rather pointless exercise to outlaw the hunting of this then later outlawing the hunting of that. If anything, this should be an amendment to the Whaling Act mentioned in this Act.
While that may appear to make sense, it cannot be done. Amendments are not allowed - if you want to amend something, you have to first repeal it then pass a replacement resolution. Or you make another resolution on a related topic, as has happened in this case.

Greater Yubari can, and will not support such a proposal. Dolphins are an important source of food for many countries. Also, we don't see the difference between hunting a dolphin or a tuna or some deer somewhere in a forest. It's an animal and we're higher on the food chain than them. They would do the same if they had the ability. Also, dolphins can be a threat for innocent citizens. You should not underestimate the eastern killer dolphin.

Not to mention that the UN has no right to impose sanctions on the hobbies and free-time pleasures of citizens of other countries. In some countries people hunt deer as a hobby. In Greater Yubari some people enjoy going on hunting sprees after dolphins. You would endanger a whole industry with this. Thousands of people would lose their jobs just because of an animal that lives in the sea and isn't even a fish!

Even if this idea will get accepted by the UN, Greater Yubari will continue to catch dolphins for scientific purposes.

There are two points i want to make:

1) It seems to me a rather pointless exercise to outlaw the hunting of this then later outlawing the hunting of that. If anything, this should be an amendment to the Whaling Act mentioned in this Act.

2) Why have we so arbitrarily chosen to make the dolphin a protected species? There are many animals in the world worthy of protection and despite the drafters excuses of animal intellect methinks the real reason is selfishness, as is implied by the writer of the first page of this thread.

For these reasons i have voted against the resolution.

President of Queeroland
Founder and Regional Delegate of Queerdurham

Very good points. Also, if this passes, the UN could now be accused of being murderers. Why? Dolphins might be a prime food source somewhere in the universe. You have removed, possibly, the only food available. Now what? Import food, at the UN's expense, to feed these people?

Also, this sets a bad precident. In my country, the Wolf is a protected species. It must not be harmed for any reason. Recently, the police had to shut down a major highway due to a pack of them that were sunning themselves on the road. It was a 2 hour back up. I would like to see the universe do the same. If this passes, I may have to write one making wolves protected as well. Point is, if we keep this up...every food source will become protected by UN. There will be no food and we will all die.

The delegate from Darkumbria and Northwind urges the voting down of this ridiculous resolution.

Surucucu is a nation that understands and respects Darwin's theory. Only the strongest survive, and as we are the strongest (at least in intelligence, although some may argue that dolphins are the smarter species. I, on the other hand, am yet to see a dolphin drive an automobile) we should flex our muscle.

Animals learn to respect brute force. Too long has this serial pest stolen the fish that we need to survive. There are nations who rely on dolphin killing. Say no to not killing dolphins!
You misunderstand Darwin, and with such a misunderstanding, your previous comment on compulsery dolphin hunting is rendered supportless.
Pikostan thinks that dolphins need to be protected for their scientific and enviromental reasons.
1) Scientific: Dolphins provide marie biologists and sociologists with a job, thus HELPING the economy. We do not want a number of unemployed marie biologists and sociologists, now do we? Thus, while the Protection of Dolphins might harm the tuna industry, it would not seriosuly injure the economy AS A WHOLE.
2) Environmental: The Dolphin is an aquatic mamal essential to controling the population of the fish. Even with commercial fishing, the Dolphin is still a much needed predator.

The Commonwealth of Crescent Fresh acknowledges the havok this resolution could wreak on the economies of fishing nations everywhere, which is why we have no choice but to support the bill. The only private industry in our Commonwealth is trout farming, which, as we see it, is in direct competition with open-sea fishing businesses everywhere. If the resolution passes, most coastal nations lose, leaving us the winners by default. The salvation of innocent animals is a trade-off we're willing to accept.

I am afraid I must vote against this resolution. Though I recognise that dolphins should be protected (indeed they are already considered so by my country) I feel that forcefully imposing this upon other nations is frankly none of my business.

This is one of the most rediculous proposals for a resolution I have seen. If nations wish to protect species then let them, if not then they don't have to. There may be any number of reasons for this, from simply not liking the idea right through to it being a necessary food commodity (as has been suggested).

Frankly I object to this proposal as a whole, it is wasteful of both the UN's valuable time and limited resources.

Regards,
Ruling Patrician Myo of Dagguerro

Yes, because what is the point in protecting an animal when it is doing fine in the current ecosystem? The only thing that will do is increase they're population and cause another animal to become endangered, and then, we will need (heaven forbid) another resolution to protect the tuna!

People, before trying to destroy economy, wait until there's a problem.

PS please don't write in other colours besides black, because I like to hear(ok, read) every country's opinion, and when i have to read it in colours like red or lime, it adds to my already present headache. I know that no harm was intended, but please keep that in mind. Thanx :p


I now realise how stupid that point I made is...

i think we should save the dolphins!!..
they save humans lots at sea and there a part of the food chain
and what have they done to use?

My nation will have to vote down this resolution because i do not belive that the UN has the power to make specific protections for one animal.
besides, the animals in my country are protected well, and dolphins are only hunted when they cause environmental hazards or hurt my business in fishing

Greetings.

We have tried seriously to understand what this proposed resolution is all about. We find serious problems with it.

1. Noting that 'industry' is a collective term for the economic activities of many sentient races in NS states, the majority of which are human for states in the NSUN;

2. Further noting that the final clause of the 'Dolphin' resolution says, "Calls upon all states to prevent dolphin abuse, in any way that they see fit, provided that no dolphin shall ever be preferred over human lives," and especially noting the phrase 'shall ever be preferred over human lives' is used;

3. We believe that there is no way for this resolution to be implemented in fact, as it specifically requires at least one dolphin to be preferred over the human lives engaged in any industry which will feel the impact of dolphin preservation. It is the 'shall ever' which breaks any possible deal.

Dolphins are not suitable for food in my country. We have strict dietary laws regarding things that swim. We do like dolphins, really we do, they are friendly, intelligent and amusing creatures. However, this bill has an interesting flaw in that it recalls a bill that forbids whaling, for not including dolphins, but this bill does not include whales!

So I suppose we must trade dolphin sized nets for whale sized harpoons?

Voting to pass this act will just upset the ecosystem more. If the Dolphin population grows then the Dolphins prey will drop. So when the Dolphin population rises the food will eventually go extinct. And without food the Dolphins will go extinct soon after. Your intentions may be good but in the long run your just harming the ecosystem.

Again, for the sake of reference, the use of the word "recall" as it pertains to this resolution most closely means "remember". Thus, the current resolution says, effectively, "we remember that we protect whales - why not dolphins too?"

A dolphin once raped and set fire to my mom! no way in hell am I letting my country support those squeaky devil fish.

I am afraid I must vote against this resolution. Though I recognise that dolphins should be protected (indeed they are already considered so by my country) I feel that forcefully imposing this upon other nations is frankly none of my business.

This is one of the most rediculous proposals for a resolution I have seen. If nations wish to protect species then let them, if not then they don't have to. There may be any number of reasons for this, from simply not liking the idea right through to it being a necessary food commodity (as has been suggested).

Frankly I object to this proposal as a whole, it is wasteful of both the UN's valuable time and limited resources.

Regards,
Ruling Patrician Myo of Dagguerro

Well Stated, I agree. The UN is grossly abusing its "authority" here.

Read the FAQ, Jack. This isn't the RL UN, and we can bother any part of life we want to.


Votes For: 7,235

Votes Against: 2,905


Looks like the fish huggers are winning by a landslide.

Dolphin steaks are an important part of Eloina's cuisine. We refuse to take them off of the menu.

Seeing as how the United Nations has deteriorated into a forum to protect any species some wacko nation has a soft spot for, The Federal Republic of Omigodtheykilledkenny plans to introduce a resolution to protect our national animal, Kenny. If you can think of even one species that has not been subject to as many gruesome deaths as Kenny, well you sir are a better man than I.

As for our nation, we do not trust the dolphins. They're too smart. You know they're up to something; we just don't know what. Our navy recently captured 20 wayward dolphins off the picturesque glacial coasts in our little Antarctic outpost, and we have detained them on suspicion of terrorist activities. We do so in compliance with the OMIGODTHEYKILLEDKENNY PATRIOT* Act, and the National Protection from Dolphins Act. We believe said dolphins are agents for one of them dolphin-lover countries, but we don't know which one -- and those crafty aquatic mammals ain't talking. All they do is sqeak. And accuse us of desecrating the Koran. And if one of you dolphin-lovers doesn't account for and explain the activities of these renegade dolphins, then we will have no choice but to "liberate" with extreme prejudice the very first dolphin-lover nation we can falsify the WMD intelligence on.

Oh yeah, and we oppose this resolution. What the hell are you idiots smoking??

* which is an acronym.

Oh yeah, and we oppose this resolution. What the hell are you idiots smoking??



A littile pot, a little hashish. :D

Unfortunately, the Most Serene Republic of Golden Wing is suffering as a result of dolphin over-hunting. The Kingdom of Warhorne, which is another UN Member, has been overhunting the dolphins in the Golden Islands region to near-extirpation. As a result, Golden Wing's once thriving tourism industry has become severely mutilated, alogn with that of the other nations in this region.

In addition, the populations of the species that dolphins eat has been increasing overwhelmingly. The octopus in particular has been almost dominating the island region, leading to fewer fish caught as a result of octopi becoming caught in fishing nets. The seafood industry has noticed that more people eat fish than octopi and are also becoming worried.

In the end, this region is suffering greatly as a result of legalized dolphin hunting. If only for the beneift of our country and region, the Most Serene Republic of Golden Wing chooses to vote in favor of this resolution.

I'm not voting for it, as much as I like the idea. Let's face it, it's recalling the ban on Whalling. It just doesn't make sense. Even though it's a good idea to have protection for Dolphins. It'd be better if there was a resolution protecting everything that litterally needs protection not just one animal.

Any animal that is smart enough to use sponges to protect itself is an imminent threat to the survival of Prestantia. Our fishermen will harpoon dolphins on site and sell their carcasses to the highest bidders in our trophy and taxonomy industries.

On a separate note, this resolution is a ghastly misuse of the United Nations! This is not a forum for the protection of dumb animals or the promotion of a few moronic countries' national ideologies. You don't see Prestantia pushing to save the Aquila (we eat them, anyway), so why must we all be subjected to the ravings of the ultrasensitive?

The representative from Golden Wing would like to point out that the representative from Prestantia contradicted himself by referring to dolphins as "smart" animals and then saying that the United Nations should not protect "dumb" animals.

The representative of Golden Wing would also like to point out that dolphins are smart enough that, if they attack your nation, you probably deserve it.

The representative of Omigodtheykilledkenny would ask the representative of Golden Wing if s/he has seen the episode of "The Simpsons" where Lisa frees a captive dolphin, who promptly leads his brethren to revolution against the humans and drives them all out to sea? This is no fantasy, but a horrifying vision of the future to come if we do not contain this dolphin problem now. And in this preemptive fight against sure dolphin insurrection, we make no distinction between the dolphins, and the nations that harbor them. You are either with us, or with the dolphins.

The representative of Golden Wing would also like to point out that dolphins are smart enough that, if they attack your nation, you probably deserve it.

The representative from the United Socialist States of Holyboy and the 666s would like to point out that if dolphins are smart enough to attack nations, then aren't they smart enough to avoid our nets? And if they are indeed this smart, then we don't need a dumb resolution! This resolution states they are smart. Why can't they use their brains, and stop getting caught in our nets? Let's have the smart dolphins worry about the smart dolphin's problem! We have demonstrated that the dolphins are smart enough to take over the world, so lets have them protect their own species, and we'll worry about our economy.

That's it for now...

PS POST NUMBER 200! W()()T W()()T (sorry, just noticed that :D)

provided that no dolphin shall ever be preferred over human lives.
As a nation made up of 78% Dolphins we are disgusted by this ridiculous law!

We demand an appology!

We demand an appology!

How about....no. Humans are smarter. Plus we don't want to insult the other 22% of your population, saying dolphins are smarter then them.

PS, you spelt apology wrong. One p :D

Is this guy actually serious? They're dolphins, for crying out loud! No, I'm not a tree stomping republican, but the nations should freely decide if they want to kill dolphins or not. We don't need people telling us what we can and can't kill. Besides other humans, of course. :sniper:

WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!

REPRESENTATIVE OF WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!! VOTE NO!!!

We are all for the extermination of human life. And the law as such, say if possible we should take the life of a dolphin instead of a humans.

Which I find repulsive.

Our demand for an appology stands!



;)

It seems to me that this might conflict with the issue presented to nations regarding their national animal if their national animal is a dolphin. I also don't agree that there's any need to preserve dolphins unless someone can prove that they are threatend.

Doesnt this resolution only apply to international waters?.. arnt countries still free to harvery dolphines if they wish within there own shores?... and dont dolphines mostly live within a few miles of shore? - ... soo... does this resolution do anything anyways?

As Dolphins are considered citizens equal in rights to humans in the nation of Wingull*, I will be voting for this act.



*I just now decided this. Shut up =P

As Dolphins are considered citizens equal in rights to humans in the nation of Wingull*, I will be voting for this act.



*I just now decided this. Shut up =P

That being the case, perhaps your dolphins can come to our waters, talk with their oversized brethren and convince them to stop eating our damn ships.

That is all.

Dolphins ARE whales i have no idea what this whole proposal is doing in the UN when a whaling ban is already in effect

Dolphins will be detained and deported from our waters. We do not support this proposal and will fight with all means. Dolphins will not be considered equals and our great nation will not tolerate such invasion of idependence of nation autonomy

We have cast our vote in support of this resolution.

(After casting his vote the Minister to the UN picks up his cell phone and calls his stock broker instructs him to buy a thousand share of Imataphin a start up company that makes imataion Dolphin meat for seafood salads.)

Minister to the UN
Henry Peabody

WTF?!?! DOLPHINS?!?! The only animals we should be saving are humans and farm animals that provide food, such as cows, pigs, and goats. Why dolphins? They aren't THAT smart, not like they can fight in an army or be put to work. They're spectacle animals. If anything, we should disband any laws protecting the useless creatures. Till then, I remain a proud dolhpin hunter. :sniper:

The Dread Alliance of Doom-Ra has decided to take a stand and oppose this resolution, as it, if passed, would effectively halt the annual cull of Doom-Ras dolphin population, an act which is nescessary for the continued survival of the Alliances Tuna industry.

That being the case, perhaps your dolphins can come to our waters, talk with their oversized brethren and convince them to stop eating our damn ships.

That is all.

I'm sure they would have no problem doing that, as long as there was some sort of agreement in place preventing the dolphins of Wingull from harm while within Ashatarian borders.

Moreover, this highlights a serious problem with the UN. How can we continue to allow uninformed people to vote based on cute and cuddly rather than facts?

We don't now how things are done in Western Saxonia, but here in The Eternal Kawaii, "cute and cuddly" is serious business. Furthermore, We take exception to the accusation that Our vote was uninformed. Divine revelation should not be dismissed so lightly!

The Empire of Darth Yankee fanatics must state that preservation of wild life and marine life is more important than food, no matter how good the recipe looks.

Dolphins ARE whales... [edit] ...a whaling ban is already in effect

This is a very good point. However many whale species, specifically dolphins in this case, are also impacted by fishing practices that are not intentionally designed to capture, harm, or kill them. There are practices that can be encouraged and enforced through legislation to help protect both the fishing companies and the species that end up as 'collateral damage' in the wake of legitimate fishing efforts. Therefore Enegue feels this proposal is a good effort to help address those issues missed specifically in an overall whaling ban. We are pleased to see a productive element within the UN.

Though to be fair, this proposal as written states that it will affect ALL BUSINESSES. This seems a bit broadbased. Perhaps this is a limitation of the mechanics of the United Nations or Nationstates as a whole? Enegue would like to see this element of the proposal amended to a lesser effect.

That single element aside, we support this proposal.

I'm not voting for it, as much as I like the idea. Let's face it, it's recalling the ban on Whalling. It just doesn't make sense. Even though it's a good idea to have protection for Dolphins. It'd be better if there was a resolution protecting everything that litterally needs protection not just one animal.

With respect HawkEagle, if we used that line of reasoning then nothing would ever get done. Sometimes you have to start with a single step.

Enegue agrees with your point about recalling the whaling ban. We don't feel there is a need to do this and would urge this line to be amended.

We also agree with you that additional species need similar protections, but keep in mind the whaling ban doesn't protect any whales from legitimate harvesting of fish and other creatures certain whale species may prey on.

Any dolphins that come near our borders will be captured and used as test subjects for our chemical/biological weapons programs... :mp5:

Personally I love dolphins....They taste especially good grilled with a nice mango salsa. :eek:

Molson Lite objects to the resolution because of the conflicting statements it makes about the value of human life. Specifically, we object to the last clause, "provided that no dolphin shall ever be preferred over human lives."

isn't it funny how we let goddamn no-brain dolphins get in between diplomacy and my dinner table... err world peace? Everyone needs to acknowledge this as a BS resolution and ignore it because there is no reason to bicker and argue over DOLPHINS. We are above them for a reason; no sense in dying over the little bishes

If dolphins become extinct our chance of becoming extinct becomes greater.The reason for is we are all part of the food chain cycle.
- take for example : IF flies were to become extinct, then what would feed the birds and other creatures that depend on the flies. If this was to happen the things we eat now wouldn't be on the table, like chicken, fish, etc.

now put the dolphin in that position on the food chain. It will affect something in the food chain cycle.

so we must all unite and create laws protecting such creatures.

This resolution makes NO LOGICAL SENSE WHATSOEVER. Which is why its supporters have yet to come up with any acceptable reason for approving it. If anything would render the U.N. (and ALL member nations) worthy of ridicule, THIS IS IT.

Krioval pulls its vote on account of the debate being totally infantile. I mean, really, people, is this the best that the NSUN can do? "OMG, dolphins are cuuuuuuuuute!" and "Here's a recipe for [insert preparation method] dolphin served with [insert sauce or side dish]"?

Gods.

My thoughts exactly. The joke is old. It may have been cute on the second page of the thread, but now it's been beaten to death. It's a cycle of the same three posts: 1) Dolphins are cute so we should save them; 2) I hate dolphins, let's cook them...lololololololololol :rolleyes: :) ;) :eek: :D ; 3) If this proposal passes, my country will hunt dolphins and kill them... :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: . Just stop.

I would have to agree with you whole heartidly that the responses on this board have been anything but well thought out and established. I have seen little in the effect of a good argument presented in the previous 16 pages worth.

Now, it seems to me that the only question here is whether we are going to be so ignorant as to continue our uneducated trend of world domination. It has been far too long that we have kept only the interests of our selves in view without worrying about the interests of the natural world. I don't think it would hurt anyone drastically to forego a little profit to keep a small piece of the natural world. Think about this issue instead of posting rediculous arguments just to argue.

I also agree with those wholsay why the dolphins and not the other endangered? Well, the ball must get running somehow and it is all too typical of the right to hinder such progress by trying to sound fair.

If dolphins are so smart, why do they live in igloos?

Save the dodo!

His Majesty, The King of Saryu greets ye!

The Kingdom of Saryu has voted yea to this resolution, in spite of its flaws. His Majesty believes that this resolution, if enacted, shall at least afford some protection to the creatures that we share our planet with.

His Majesty perceives two flaws in the resolution which make it imperfect. The slaughter of any form of animal is an abhorrent practice, and should be avoided under all circumstances. Therefore His Majesty would prefer it if this resolution were extended to all animals, not limited to the dolphin.

His Majesty is also in disagreeance with the following statement in the resolution:

"provided that no dolphin shall ever be preferred over human lives"

His Majesty wishes to know why a human life should gain automatic preference over that of another animal. Many non-human animals are far more worthy of life than men, yet it is man that persists in destroying the world around him just so that he may achieve material comforts.

These are His Majesty's thoughts on the resolution.

Your humble neighbour,

His Majesty,

The King of Saryu

I believe that this debate would be better if we agreed that
1) Dolphin safe tuna is really a conspiracy to save surfers
2) Tuna mixed with dolphins is really tasty
3) This is not a matter of national security, if we are talking about saving the ocean's creatures we need to destroy Aquaman
4) We need to repeal the Computers Protections Law
5) Stop the U.N. from taking our right to slaughter dolphins with meat cleavers.
If we agreed on this and it became the new law we could go on to important topics like the black markets of stripper sales in countries.

I agree. What do dolphins do for us except that they taste good for us to eat. I believe that if you hippies want to preserve dolphins you dolphins that you should take them and fly them into your countries for protection so I can get back to eat my dolphin steaks.

We can always bring them back in a test tube. Regularly restock the Dolphin population from Dolphin Farms. Maybe start Dolphin Ranches with Domesticated Dolphins, with saddles. Maybe bioengineer Dolphins that have built in saddles? We are still very interested in the idea of training Dolphins to plant explosives on submarine hulls. We think they may even be able to answer Tech Support Questions via e-mail.

No, I disagree. We must kill the dolphin infestation before it is too late. We can not tell what horrors that they are planning to use to kill us all. We must kill them first or die trying! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

The best thing to have come out of this preposterous exercise is that I now have several good recipes for dolphin. I have not tried them all but the first three were very tasty. By the way, does anyone know which species of dolphin has the least fat? I am just trying to watch my waistline. :)

F.Y.I. :D The Yangtze river dolphins taste very good especially in the ceremonial orange sauce and they are low in bad carbs and fat.

*sighs* My economy is not going to like this.

OOC: You know, I been playing this game for almost 1 year and a half now, and I have to say that this has been the strangest "official topic" I've ever seen.

To end this dispute, I believe that we kill all of the dolphins so that this entire situation would be ended so we could work on approving my bill idea:
Casino Medical Centers
This bill is to legalize:
1) The right to build medical centers in all casinos
2) The right to one's sells organs in those casinos
3) The right of casinos to sell organs or give them away as prizes
4) The right of casino owners to use judgment when people prepare to sell organs by choosing whether or not to allow the sale because of the level of sobriety
5) The right of casinos not to be sued over malpractice
6) The right of casinos to decline resale of organs to the original owner
These laws will allow the growth of the casino industry

Hmmm .....

Maybe much of the debate has been without substance because the PROPOSAL ITSELF is without substance?? FOR GOD'S SAKE, this is the U.N.; you wanna save the dolphins, join Greenpeace.

:headbang:

My country almost relies completle on idustry and ya another nation also metion that it is a threat to natioal secruity. Are navy have killed dolphin but i need my navy. :sniper: Boom i got one!

And we're done. Every dolphin in Rogue Newbie has been killed and frozen with liquid nitrogen. We'll just let our businesses buy it from us at the same price they could have. Who's fault is this? The dolphiners'? Mine? No. The person that wrote this proposal is at fault. I hope you're happy that so many dolphins are dead because of what you did.

:sniper:

May the fish and squid run free, overpopulate, and become a new source of seafood business growth here.

I'm curious if any data has been collected that caused this issue to action. How will the United Nations know if the dolphin killing is in fact being monitored by the nations? How will we know if the dolphins are actually being protected? Has any consideration for enforcing the resolution been planned? There are too many questions after the fact (if the majority vote to pass it) that I don't see addressed in the resolution.
I'm new to this game, so maybe the resolution needs to be passed before these issues are addressed. However, what will really be accomplished however we vote? :confused:

The dolphins have now met my fist. My fist that is holding a fork and my other hand holding some A-1. Now that my region is going to ban all dolphins, anybody wishing to join Otaria is welcome. Down with Aquaman and the foul dolphin servants of Gix and Yawmagoth. For Otaria, Homoculus, and Kuberr. Time to go and join in my towns public stonings for the sake of honor and dueling. Woo hoo! :gundge: :gundge:

I agree with Homoculus about killing dolphins but that other stuff is a bit crazy but then again, whoever supports dolphin protection is. We need to instead protect the residents of third world countries who our economies depend on so much. Down with all P.D.A. :fluffle: :gundge: :gundge: 7

I have a strong reason to vote against this act... And that is that no one in my country wants their business to be affected by the fate of a few marine animals.

That may sound cold and unsympathetic. However, I prefer to let my citizens thrive and be free to to what they wish with their businesses.

The dolphins, in my humble opinion, can fend for themselves or move to another country, as they would if not worried over by the UN.

The dolphins, in my humble opinion, can fend for themselves or move to another country, as they would if not worried over by the UN. [/FONT][/QUOTE]


yes, it sounds like to me, if you should want to save the dolphins, you shall have to teach them to use ak-47s
as for me, ill be using ak-47s on all countries in support of something so stupid as to save such slippery mammals
These are the most foul and slippery mammals that ever walked..wait..no they DIDNT walk the earth, now did they? see its just sooo damn unnatural

Come on people tuna just wont taste the same without that sweet sweet dolphin meat in there...

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[3], TheSamurai [4], Tempestuous [2], Mitchellina [2], Callisdrun [3], Banana Tree [3], Alisle [5], Booty Chops [2], CZJ [2], Uberwald [2], Gebirgsland [2], Mareena [3], Myself and her [2], Yissing Scalies [7], The Land of Sigmar [3], Yatopia [5], Pryussa [2], Rotovia- [3], Jacobins IV [2], Trixsyn [4], Svenor [4], Noxinland [6], Leon g [2], De Sienna [8], Sigrism [5], DeigoRedD [3], Carr Hall [4], Othelma [6], Declavia [5], Kyott [5], Nexwald [3], Westland_en_brussel [3], Liongate [2], Phobya [3], YenRug [10], St Oswald [3], Snotty Nipple [2], Philbe [5], My ring [2], Persaunet [3], TUBAHO [2], Josun [2], 3urope [7], New Rheged [3], Skrittany [5], Flangleland [5], Abenobashi [3], PurpleSponge [3], Gongagaland2 [3], Ilmariaa [7], ANT Lab [2], Expressionasia [3], Kalowna [6], Anarchist Canuckistan [2], SupremeEmperorNick [9], Cockeysville [3], Trackeendy [3], Canine Despotism [4], Moorebaby [2], Don Mario [2], Shibbynia [3], Czardas [2], Jiangland [3], Zealotos [2], Call [5], Emartia [2], Joffridia [3], Daggersdale [2], The Mongolian Steppe [7], Homestar Land [8], Saint Les [2], Crushed Purple Velvet [2], Beret [11], Robin Lori and DJ [2], Lebhaft [4], Saint Gulik [3], Benea [27], Landris [5], Lucania Prime [8], The Love Pinto [2], Boone Grove [2], Sagus [7], Moustique [3], Short Welsh People [4], Drewan [7], The Giir [2], The Island of Eire [4], Sulamar [2], Boyzici [4], Photoptics [2], King Abbudabbi [3], Trigania [3], Akkylan [2], Cognitio [4], Orduron [2], Garden Sheds [3], Phobosi [2], Unsubstantialia [3], Peteslovaknia [2], PenPenLand [3], North Koster [4], Purpleation [6], Eve the First [11], SVS [3], Aremia [2], Cretetian [2], Ragorth [2], Flagellumpa [4], Rimyan [2], -Dutopia- [9], Comperia [2], Myrsk [3], Castle Cool People [5], Windleheim [4], Abilenia [2], Military Kittens [2], The Noble Men [3], Bitewaldi [31], Serinistad [12], Frankenland [8], Askalaria [10], Olworth [6], New Burmesia [3], Endalor [8], Dazzaland [2], Canabis Smokers [2], Boston [3], Karmic Arcadia [2], Lava limey [2], Computer Labs [8], Ginnoria [7], Liberal Fascism [3], Demonicalutopia [2], Corzo [7], Kyndcat [4], Sugah Butto [2], GodsPlace [2], George Norman [3], Homo Republicans [2], Rianon [5], Logical-ish Vulcans [3], LinZenburgenstof [5], Omniscient Magisters [2], Lost Valley [3], Blythopolis [2], Greater Holloway [5], Tiger kingdom [15], Nukarbo [4], Janistania [2], Joia [9], Conservative Haters [2], Greg0ra [2], Liviland [2], Spartans mark2 [7], Kaushland [4], Tonanashia [2], Devmath [2], Saxnot [2], Ertitta [3], Substantial Influence [2], Cb south [4], Silanne [3], C Lupus [2], Matt Bell [6], Jedi Soccer Players [6], Liberal Tendencies [10], Nocra [3], TrashManifest [3], Exporia [3], ETopps [5], Howard Wong [2], Alberta Patriots [4], Rammsteinburg [3], Aztec National League [9], The Great Guid [3], Davarin [19], Vegas-Rex [3], Spatopia [2], Jacob_is_our_king [3], The Zeph [2], Des Erables [3], Emochny [2], The real DragonFyre [3], Purple Seralena [2], Werebobs [2], Fallowat [2], Moneymoochers [2], HCTV [3], Etnpm [4], Obstinacy [2], Subversa [2], United democratic [5], Hermitistan [3], Cuzlania [3], Jjuulliiaann [10], Snufflelufflegus Land [5], Nogok [2], Woldenstein [2], The Waffle King [4], Stallock [2], Shakobi [3], Alean [5], Sivaprasadistan [3], Richard2008 [2], New Havoc [3], Ilyich [5], Estabanita [3], Haukenschlak [8], Venerable libertarians [5], Calabraxia [6], King Dubya [9], Kalamynia [3], Sweetwood [3], Nascar Thunder [3], Irish Drunken Pirates [3], Tadbekistan [4], Nighthowl Keep [5], The Byzantium Empire [4], Free Jedi Knights [2], Cricket Fans [26], PintoBerg [9], Jezabell [2], Gabrones [2], Mallavogue [4], Htous Aerok [2], RedCommunist [40], Sansita [2], Hegartydom [7], Le Loup [2], Felysial [8], Hogs Head [8], The Dog God [4], Tomatosia [2], Salendor [2], Salf [2], Logostan [8], Omni-Pyrmaeus [2], Math Murderer [9], Woodwinds [5], Billy Joe Sue [3], Moonriders [2], Paradox Hazard [2], Ukemi [2], Zephyrdomez [2], All Badgers [3], EdmundMae [2], Mietlica [3], Markuk [4], Nosbocaj [2], Cado Angelus [3], Old Canaan [4], Keltana [2], Spec of Thought [2], Goldadia [3], Ueberwald [17], Kumay Kyair [2], Lior Liechtenstein [2], Darkreigner [16], Fuhr Jack [2], Triple Hard Nutters [4], Nireva [6], Neo-Homotopia [3], Squidjia [2], Juna Esperantisto [3], Laurinians [2], Allers [5], Seberian [2], Bagpussy [6], Lichtenstrasselburg [4], Reehan [6], Tzorsland [3], Ralaham [4], Hippio [4], Teatroia [2], Supernova Heights [2], Uthai [3], Karthar [5], Zimbabwestan [2], Dr Paul Wolfowitz [3], James Brogan [4], New Endenia [3], Monkey VI [3], Barcodius [6], La Sacapuntas [2], His Majesty [70], Rostum [3], Lombary-Genoa [6], De Oppresso Liber [3], Galliana [2], Mrs Jeffers [3], Tims evilness [3], Safeland [2], Pikostan [5], Egron [2], Crescent Fresh [2], Whip-a-topia [2], Pissantia [2], Ursos [5], Duozo [2], Brodhagen [5], Fenouil [3], Cheasa Naed [3], Flormontagon [7], Taryno [2], Fishy19 [2], Moroboshi [3], The Board of Trade [3], Pharan [13], Incompetent Lunacy [3], Northern Lycabettus [7], Tir [3], Pardaugava [4], 11001100 [2], Jonezistan [11], East Strongbadia [17], The Henchman Union [6], The Iroqouis [4], Knuk [2], FWEDD [2], The Great Bud [6], Dame Kirsty [2], Hogwarts Castle - Gryf [9], Gurnee [7], Turdingham [3], Illyrie [5], Shooting Star Valley [3], Binzer [7], Pompous world [2], Doomed Worlds [2], Ruskigrad [3], DragonSpeartopia [2], Female Leadership [8], Serenitacious Sereness [7], Russkya [3], Razgriz straights [5], Behinds [2], The Fro Royal Family [38], Jin-You [2], Ojacid [10], Richardsky [2], Bredense tribes [2], Buhnuf [3], United Royal Britannia [5], Kluster [4], Pie Loveing People [3], Govt according to me [4], Clymerstan [2], Krowman [5], Danorussia [2], Newbred Tongans [8], Arendstan [2], Opressiagul [4], A Nation Near You [3], Ostberlin [3], Crazy Horses IV [59], Russkkia [2], LexioHulkLand [2], Pagov [9], Rusca [7], ForeStarnia [5], Hedley Lamar [2], Michaelic France [4], Giftzwerg [2], Zouloukistan [4], SPACEBASE [7], Kebe [2], The maker Iluvatar [9], Froilan [2], Xay [3], Hurly Burly [4], Tramformador [2], The Island States [6], Ancients Tomatoes [2], Mattabooloo [12], Bearded Gooseberries [4], Escariot [2], Dharmatopia [2], Dorftrottels reign [3], The Floodcity [6], Kilobugya [2], Ishkibible [3], Kyllia [9], Uginin-minor [3], The king is dead [3], Klashonite [6], Meirose [2], Veneterra [2], Foil Shango [6], Danielledom [2], The Free Scotts [3], The-Guardians [3], Foospance [3], Jagerhelm [4], Sel Appa [4], Weak-minded fools [2], Sonata Arcticana [3], Tovarich Patrick [3], Evil Plankton [5], Lries [2], Traya [3], Huor Faelivrin [9], Latouria [2], Huehuete [4], Biotopia [2], Lizardbreath [3], Chibin [2], Corinos [2], Enixer [2], P_nade [3], CaffeinePower [2], Svedelandia [3], Dornolius [8], Agels [2], Great Jason [2], The Ethics Union [3], Balandick [3], Xochilli [3], Bohunova [4], Palas Tallonis [2], Clintoned [7], The Herdstone [4], America-Canada-Mexico [13], Veksar [2], Manea [4], Mercuryyru [8], Nquoro [2], Crimeson [2], NationState One [6], Caltoni [2], Eelegium [2], Rolling Stone [58], Sheppartonia [14], Nendeln [127], Vietnam - Indochina [7], SouthFerns [43], Rosssophie [4], Madgear [5], Koranland [4], Real Paradise [7], Beta Centaury [5], Soviet Sexy Girls [59], Kimscastle [2], Enrosol[4], Northern Lycabettus[7], DHomme[7], Dmb1spe[12], Tiqwah Ha Am[3], , , Cragonius[8], Letevia[3], Elephant Playground[2], Typophiles[13], Kiaslavia[3], Foxenburg[4], Soriktos[3], Myrddyn[3], Mycos[2], Mument[3], Dangertk[10], Bob-Man Islands[5], Tal Maritima[2], The psychotic govermen[2], , Inner Outer Freedonia[4], T3h poooP[4], Gaelic Provinces[3], Bonum commune hominis[5], Casp[3], Mackacona[3], North Monaghan[2], Simonist[3], Dorig[3], Oliverous[5], BLACKGRUE[11], Wildtypes[6], Kyndcat[4], Pohjoinen Maa[6], Threethazz[2], New Shaftshire[2], Kincheloe[4], The House of Even[6], New-Avalon[2], Jebusan[2], Ethernal damnnation[5], Ultimateness[2], Black Thirteen[13], LadyMystra[2], Ixtaria[2], The Bluelight[5], Caretech[18], , Sishu[2], Wilmott and Chips[5], Scrivneria[84], Terra Novo[2], Zimbada[4], Bagder Badger Badger[2], , Sir Lafferlot[7], The Karma Army[6], Richardsky[2], Black Blueberry[2], Pine Lake[6], Las Comadrejas[5], All is Perfect[5], Maczors[11].

Votes Against: 3914: Tariq Bin Dels [2], The Grelg [5], Iznogoud [2], Utopian Id [9], Republic of Freedonia [13], Gunnerium [2], Nice and nice [2], Whipjangle [7], Darkumbria [3], Armija Krajowa [2], CiQuat [10], Norvikeland [5], Money-Makers [3], Cawiezell [2], Fudgeburketania [35], South Penetanguishene [4], Victories [3], Gaelic Brendonia [4], Bleedin_Hearts [3], Utilesvania [4], Einerland [5], Omigodtheykilledkenny [5], Paddyshire [4], Funkdunk [8], WitchyRachel [4], Abok [4], Gurindia [2], The WYN starcluster [2], Diamond Realms [11], Sadistic sam [2], Rei Novae [2], CLU [7], Symria [2], Carops [2], Baseball Jesus [2], Nelistan [2], New Secundus [3], Personal Awareness [2], Crotchless Dwarves [6], Nick52B [2], Strogg [2], Dugway [3], SACBGTAASA [2], South Manitou [3], Chrononauts [2], Tiber City [3], The Father-Land [7], The IDC [2], Dizziness [2], Orioni 2 [72], AllThatIsUnholy [6], Bastardstein [2], Tom Joad [4], NS Pirates [4], Fcrunk [3], Turkhan [3], Great Scuttland [2], Kruseland [3], Seocc [3], Medved [6], Miss [23], San Ardor [4], CankerSore [3], Puppetters [3], Ygkylzstan [6], Edtech [11], Tyyrus [5], Milination [2], Eloina [3], Tactical PIE [37], Hinteria [3], Cleistheneism [7], Chest Hair [2], Shorteynick [2], South Lake Tahoe [2], Smythedom [6], Ixtaria [2], The waki [2], Canooba [3], Unlimited [302], Stankistia [2], Weezness [9], Manhands [4], Hydistania [3], Timerlane [3], Cylea [5], -Stan [6], Nerrethans [12], MLL [3], Quadlia [2], Quails Land [3], Hergot [2], Namrebah [3], Daqurra [2], Kluane [6], The AL East Champz [9], The Land of Sinai [11], JennyChick [2], North Andrewsia [2], Lousy Sister [2], Nevermoore [3], All the Germans [2], Draconomia [4], Borkistan [52], The 9 Dominions [3], Averma [6], The Anti Commi Clan [39], The Ivory Kingdom [3], Mirmuranski [3], Thorncraftland [3], Zfeltor [2], Thatsallmine [2], New Maastricht [4], Tarphos [7], Belamia [2], Bleurgh [3], David Hume Tower [4], Central Franconia [5], Knuckles Promised Land [4], Recoria [3], Demokrasy ToWN [4], Sidus [4], Hectator [2], PSOboards [7], Iraqadelphia [5], Hailowniss [5], Bassainia [2], Cav [3], The Shadow-Kai [3], New Monkeymania [5], Shaloch [2], Siaka [3], Prinz Rolf [2], NeoAsiaEuropa [5], Tsaroth [5], Starps [11], Hepaslovakia [5], Brothers of Darksteel [3], Wolfish [4], Szuhuoko [3], Hollidayland [7], StJohnHospitaller [2], Homoculus [4], Hendo001 [2], Douthittia [5], LED ZEPPEILN [6], Renkotoa [6], Undeniable Perfection [4], Communist Opressors [4], Cosadia [4], Ignorant Peoples [3], Ultrasilvania [2], Robert E Lee II [6], Honest Anarchist [3], Agromero [3], Ik chakak [4], Deathbydrugz [5], Wojcikiville [2], Sagatica [2], Yakaschmi [3], Malaric [2], Trexia [9], Armynia [2], Yupaenu [2], The UA [3], Tristion [2], -Andoland [7], Neo-Pangaea [6], Springsylvania [2], Sonic The Hedgehogs [13], Corneil [3], The Crying Giants [3], Izalium [4], Vox Augusti [10], Ministerial Opulence [3], Greater Australis [6], Emory [45], Vastiva [19], Cabbose [2], Screw you all [2], Fenure [11], Brians Room [30], Adamith [3], Southampton Moor [2], Mighty-Mousia [2], Zyne [2], Roen [2], Andolya [3], Pedronus [5], Uber Menschen [3], Baikonour [3], Rugia [4], Jimbob the Jingoistic [10], Vlaadtopia [2], Elitaria [5], Queeroland [4], Nemso [2], The Karma Army [6], Ilkland [4], Ludovicus [2], Shalabala [2], DontPissUsOff [2], Nahrin [2], Dorksonia [12], Emmaleth [3], Kerem [2], Zhukhistan [24], Suolapahkina [2], Civilized Nations [3], Kraiig [2], Porn Dawgiaistein [2], Krasitstan [3], Meshuggeners [4], Noyoucantistan [4], Apolian Pirates [2], Specific Divergence [2], Swishland [2], Scandics [2], SuperGuardianVille [2], Die Faust [2], Meekel [2], Elder Seraphim [4], Hudastonia [2], Tannu Tuval [18], Jaghur [2], Dos Locos [8], Sphinx the Great [2], Chongjin [3], Putzshteht [2], The Imperial Raven [5], Penton Rise [10], Tramontina [8], The Laborous Stantonia [5], Yayz0rs [6], Extinguishers [4], Longryu [3], Gansine [3], Jaggerton [3], Croats United [3], Firefly1 [3], Ackerenia [4], Faerin II [276], SenatorHoser [152], The Grand Mystic [14], Two Knives [4], Armiferum [3], Assington [7], PQ32 [3], Dragiona [4], Nevscrow [77], Jibba-Jabbia [3], The_zulu_tribes [26], Over zealous Penguins [5], Maciavely [3], Pantocratoria [3], Jonathalia [10], The Island States[6], Othelma[6], Spartha Rhineland[2], Fearsome Bear Island[2], TomTomlandia[3], , The UA[3], Kalowna[6], Brodhagen[5], Bolshevikum[4], Roblyvania[8], Rogue Newbie[3], Kwanna[4], , Edtech[11], Bretonnian Europa[4], Tamarata[5], Lunar Destiny[39], Yornia[2], Avios[2], Praxon[3], Carops[2], Beefypeanut[6], Mommy D[2], Snufflelufflegus Land[5], Q11q1[5], Anni Landia[2], Arachnae[3], Fwuffy[3], Great Computers[2], Gods Own Drunk[2], Trum[2], The Three-Toed Sloth[4].

Greetings.

Our objection in principle is that it has to be an international problem, and dolphins are not internationally distributed, let alone interplanetarily or interdimensionally. We might as well post resolutions of this kind for all sufficiently alluring intelligent life forms with a scarcity factor.

We also note that killer whales are dolphins too.


Whales are dolphins too????? So, humans are cats, by that line of thinking.