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Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 06:48
OOC would be a basic overview of the character. You can page back a few in this thread, there are several.

IC - once ok'ed - you put a request in to Raahmid Javani, Grand Vizier, Vastiva in the OOC thread expressing interest (many examples in the first five pages). From there, the game starts.


Do I place the overview on this thread? I don't want to mess up your thread.
Thank You for helping me out here.
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 06:50
Do I place the overview on this thread? I don't want to mess up your thread.
Thank You for helping me out here.

Yep, overview here, into in the other one. Welcome.
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 06:57
Here is the overview for my character....

Name-Helena Johansson
Age-14
Height-5'11
Weight-about 110
Hair-Brunette,medium length hair which almost reaches the shoulders
Likes-Horse Riding,Nature,Animals,Religion
Dislikes-Rudeness,Poaching,Sexism
Religious Orientation-Greek Orthodoxy
Education-Has Masters in Theology,Has the best P.H.D's and such in things like Religion and Nature
Goals-To Lead A Good Life,Good Family,etc.
Sexual Orientation-Straight

Is this a good overview?

What do I do now?
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 07:01
Here is the overview for my character....

Name-Helena Johansson
Age-14
Height-5'11
Weight-about 110
Hair-Brunette,medium length hair which almost reaches the shoulders
Likes-Horse Riding,Nature,Animals,Religion
Dislikes-Rudeness,Poaching,Sexism
Religious Orientation-Greek Orthodoxy
Education-Has Masters in Theology,Has the best P.H.D's and such in things like Religion and Nature
Goals-To Lead A Good Life,Good Family,etc.
Sexual Orientation-Straight

Is this a good overview?

What do I do now?

14 and a Masters? How about upping that to, oh, 18? And you do know what a harem is - so a "good family" would not be part of it, well not in a normal view of things...
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 07:03
14 and a Masters? How about upping that to, oh, 18? And you do know what a harem is - so a "good family" would not be part of it, well not in a normal view of things...

Ok,then.She is now 18 and just assume all the changes that you want.Do I go to the IC Thread now? Also,when I RP,how do I make a good post? Also,I know what a Harem is. What do you mean by not in a normal view of things? By good family,I mean like your average family.
Cadillac-Gage
25-04-2005, 07:04
A mach 3 takeoff... zero-g... and return, and she "holds it in".
I'm impressed.

What Vastiva's model is like:

Click here (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=509&ncid=509&e=8&u=/ap/20050424/ap_on_bi_ge/qatar_s_golden_egg)
Not that impressive, really-the real ordeal would be the initial de-celeration burn at re-entry-and you wrote that as being pretty smooth compared to the usual dropping-it-like-a-rock re-entry.

Remember also that Females have only four career options in the CG military-and Aviation has a height requirement... Sharon was bounced for disrespecting an Officer, not for being unsuitable-as a minor, she retained no "Dishonourables" on her record, she was just chapter 13'd. (Unsuitable for military life) and released into civilian life... after passing basic flight school and Primary jet training (Age 18, making it last year...).
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 07:10
How do I post good posts on RP's?

Also,Can I go on the IC now? If not,what do I do?
Nova Hope
25-04-2005, 07:11
A master's at 18 would still make her a fricken genius. Maybe I'm just bitter because I'm 21 and still working on my first degree. Damn real not giving me what I want went I type it ;)
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 07:12
A master's at 18 would still make her a fricken genius. Maybe I'm just bitter because I'm 21 and still working on my first degree. Damn real not giving me what I want went I type it ;)

Good luck at your first degree! :D
Nova Hope
25-04-2005, 07:14
Good luck at your first degree! :D

Thank you
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 07:15
Thank you

You welcome! :D

What do you have on your First Degree(Which Course)?
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 07:16
Ok,then.She is now 18 and just assume all the changes that you want.Do I go to the IC Thread now? Also,when I RP,how do I make a good post? Also,I know what a Harem is. What do you mean by not in a normal view of things? By good family,I mean like your average family.

That would be the basic change - though, as is pointed out, she's a genius.

I'd suggest reading the other thread, or skipping around - its filled with excellent posts. Basicly, a "good post" forwards the story in some fashion.

How is "good family" = "place in a harem"? Unless I'm missing something, or she's planning retire then have a good family?
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 07:18
That would be the basic change - though, as is pointed out, she's a genius.

I'd suggest reading the other thread, or skipping around - its filled with excellent posts. Basicly, a "good post" forwards the story in some fashion.

How is "good family" = "place in a harem"? Unless I'm missing something, or she's planning retire then have a good family?

Thanks for this valuable info! Also,can I post on the IC Thread now? Do I contact your Vizier? What do I do now? Thank You For Everything! :D
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 07:23
Thanks for this valuable info! Also,can I post on the IC Thread now? Do I contact your Vizier? What do I do now? Thank You For Everything! :D

Read the other applications to the Vizier. Write something accordingly. That's it. :)
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 07:27
:Read the other applications to the Vizier. Write something accordingly. That's it. :)

Where are the applications? :confused: Thank You For Everything! :D What should I write on my application?
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 07:36
Click here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=406324) for the IC (in Character) thread. I strongly suggest you read through it, at least partway, to get a feel for what is going on.

If you have more questions, you can telegram them to me (TG) from your nation page. Thank you!
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 07:38
Not that impressive, really-the real ordeal would be the initial de-celeration burn at re-entry-and you wrote that as being pretty smooth compared to the usual dropping-it-like-a-rock re-entry.

Remember also that Females have only four career options in the CG military-and Aviation has a height requirement... Sharon was bounced for disrespecting an Officer, not for being unsuitable-as a minor, she retained no "Dishonourables" on her record, she was just chapter 13'd. (Unsuitable for military life) and released into civilian life... after passing basic flight school and Primary jet training (Age 18, making it last year...).

Hitting mach three on a runway and pulling a 60-degree climb...

Well, we'll take it as "Miss cast iron stomach" for now.
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 07:41
Click here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=406324) for the IC (in Character) thread. I strongly suggest you read through it, at least partway, to get a feel for what is going on.

If you have more questions, you can telegram them to me (TG) from your nation page. Thank you!

Can I put my application on the IC Thread? How long must it be?
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 07:55
Can I put my application on the IC Thread? How long must it be?

Yes you can.
Read the other applications to see what you're doing.
More questions in telegram please.
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 07:55
Yes you can.
Read the other applications to see what you're doing.
More questions in telegram please.

Thanks! :D
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 08:12
To:The Sultan Of Vastiva's Grand Vizier
From:The Emperor Of Roman Greece's Head Priest

Greetings,
This is our application for Helena Johansson's entry into Vastiva's Harem.She has accepted going to this Harem.The Harem is to us,a place which those of different cultures can meet each other.If the Sultan of Vastiva loves Helena,we don't mind it at all.We want to confirm she will be guarded and not hurt at all.If you want a embassy or a alliance,just ask.All we need is to confirm that she can land in your country.We also want to know if any requirements are needed for Helena.What is the Harem for? We just want to tell those who do not know.Vastiva is a good friend to us and we honor your nation and its people.In the end,we say Thank You.

Is this a good application?
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 08:23
You'll get a response in a few.
Roman Greece
25-04-2005, 08:24
You'll get a response in a few.


Thanks! :D I hope she is accepted in to the Harem. God Bless You! :D
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 08:49
Krioval,

On a purely serendipitous note, "Sharma" means "Lamp". :D
Krioval
25-04-2005, 09:03
Krioval,

On a purely serendipitous note, "Sharma" means "Lamp". :D

You are so paying for all of this later. :D
Vastiva
25-04-2005, 09:25
I'll save you some time - attempting to get a green-robe to talk is much like getting a brick wall to talk, and just as effective.
Krioval
25-04-2005, 09:41
Well then, my instincts are improving. I figured that the girl would know where to go, though Medea has a habit of repeating herself occasionally when matters are urgent.
Cadillac-Gage
25-04-2005, 09:45
Hitting mach three on a runway and pulling a 60-degree climb...

Well, we'll take it as "Miss cast iron stomach" for now.

Erm... that'd be about 11 G's. Puke? Maybe. Pass Out without a Flight suit??? YEah... that's more likely-9 G's will do most men, and 10's about the upper limit on most people without a bladder-suit on-I doubt she remembers the takeoff.


Cast-iron stomach works too.
Findhorn
25-04-2005, 10:44
No matter how hard I try, I can't help but feel that my latest post sounds as if Myfanwy is going to sing in the men's urinals. But I've gotta get something posted before you devils on the other side of the time divide launch even more mayhem.

My, that was good, though. All hail the Master of Ceremonies.

Okay, a nos moutons: Vas, when Findhornians pray, they mentally "gather in" those whom they wish to pray with or for. They don't know it, but it's an untaught form of the telepathy that their "lost" colony of Archoille uses.

This is fine when they're all in the Abbey together. As they recite familiar names ( = a mantra), they go into a state akin to meditation and unleash all those nice endorphins.

So Myfanwy is going to try this, and she will undoubtedly want to pray for her new friends. This means she will, unwittingly, try to reach out for their basic just-turning-over mental radiation.

So: with the defences the Palace has, is it going to work? This is not communication, it's just a registering of the presence; sort of like knowing there's somebody else in a dark room.

If it can't work, I'll have her just go back to repeating the names of her Abbey mates and she'll feel something, but it won't be quite the same.
Findhorn
25-04-2005, 10:49
BTW, I'm making Myfanwy's religion up as I go along. So I'm not open to any debates about the orthodoxy of any point. If you want to burn her at the stake, you'll have to do it IC.

That was not a suggestion for a plot device ...
Cadillac-Gage
25-04-2005, 21:20
[hides flint and steel]

ohreallynowcauseyouknowfire'scoolfirefireFIREFIREFIRE!!! [TWITCH}

okay, that's better.

Findhorn, unless I miss my guess, yours is going to have the same 'thermosbottle' feeling that's on Engred-Psi just doesn't penetrate here, and Magick malfunctions. Vastiva mentioned that Telepathy can't penetrate the walls, and we saw what happens to even mild spells that contact the floors and walls... (Though, if he allows it, it might be interesting to see how many Psis are actually present through the Abbess trying to make contact with someone.)
The Voltarum
26-04-2005, 00:21
That was not a suggestion for a plot device ...

rofl!

btw vastiva, you have great patience lol
Vastiva
26-04-2005, 03:37
... and are we about to watch Zukie get bounced out of the palace... into the snow, and ice, and horrible weather... did I mention the temperature?...
Vastiva
26-04-2005, 07:53
No matter how hard I try, I can't help but feel that my latest post sounds as if Myfanwy is going to sing in the men's urinals. But I've gotta get something posted before you devils on the other side of the time divide launch even more mayhem.

My, that was good, though. All hail the Master of Ceremonies.

Okay, a nos moutons: Vas, when Findhornians pray, they mentally "gather in" those whom they wish to pray with or for. They don't know it, but it's an untaught form of the telepathy that their "lost" colony of Archoille uses.

This is fine when they're all in the Abbey together. As they recite familiar names ( = a mantra), they go into a state akin to meditation and unleash all those nice endorphins.

So Myfanwy is going to try this, and she will undoubtedly want to pray for her new friends. This means she will, unwittingly, try to reach out for their basic just-turning-over mental radiation.

So: with the defences the Palace has, is it going to work? This is not communication, it's just a registering of the presence; sort of like knowing there's somebody else in a dark room.

If it can't work, I'll have her just go back to repeating the names of her Abbey mates and she'll feel something, but it won't be quite the same.

Telepathy can't penetrate the walls; Myfanwy will get "pings" from those inside the Harem itself that she has line of sight to but nothing past that. Talk about feeling alone...

And I do wonder, as you've brought it up, about the reaction of those far away, to whom she just "vanished" from their radars... Especially as Voltarum is doing those lovely inflammatory news reports, which they may somehow get hold of... :eek:
Krioval
26-04-2005, 08:05
And then we have Medea, who is vaguely afraid of doing something stupid that'll get her killed, and yet is enjoying just about every second of people doing what she wants on command.
Cadillac-Gage
26-04-2005, 13:07
And then we have Medea, who is vaguely afraid of doing something stupid that'll get her killed, and yet is enjoying just about every second of people doing what she wants on command.

I think Medea has found her 'happy place' now. I'm really kind of waiting for Engred's hands to become useful again. In the meantime, she's a material witness and all...
Cadillac-Gage
26-04-2005, 13:11
Vastiva: The 'search' scene I wrote for Sharon, is based on something that occurred with a friend of mine visiting Canada about ten years ago- the border cops patted her down and got nailed by a mousetrap she fastened to her wallet. They also confiscated her stun-gun and took her into a back room for an 'interview'-apparently, pepper-spray is a controlled substance in some parts of the world! (Imagine that...) I exaggerated the circumstances a little bit for effect.
Vastiva
26-04-2005, 17:41
Vastiva: The 'search' scene I wrote for Sharon, is based on something that occurred with a friend of mine visiting Canada about ten years ago- the border cops patted her down and got nailed by a mousetrap she fastened to her wallet. They also confiscated her stun-gun and took her into a back room for an 'interview'-apparently, pepper-spray is a controlled substance in some parts of the world! (Imagine that...) I exaggerated the circumstances a little bit for effect.

Oh yes, this made them so much more happy to have Sharon in their country...

Now we move from "you're on parole" to "you get an armed guard outside your room, and if you stick your head out, we take it off". She'll be in the cabin opposite Alexis', with said guard in place armed with pistol and machete.

No, I wasn't kidding about the "you stick it out, we take it off". Which she'll be informed of. And her cabin has dropped to the level of "well, you have a flat hard surface and a blanket".
Vastiva
26-04-2005, 18:49
I think Medea has found her 'happy place' now. I'm really kind of waiting for Engred's hands to become useful again. In the meantime, she's a material witness and all...

If they're just burns, max of five days, probably less. If the bones are cracked, that can take up to a week (modern medicines, gotta love them...).

If something is broken, longer.

And the fight took place in a pink room, not a blue one. Blues are all pools and such - watersports. Pinks are bathrooms (with their own baths).
Cadillac-Gage
26-04-2005, 19:50
Oh yes, this made them so much more happy to have Sharon in their country...

Now we move from "you're on parole" to "you get an armed guard outside your room, and if you stick your head out, we take it off". She'll be in the cabin opposite Alexis', with said guard in place armed with pistol and machete.

No, I wasn't kidding about the "you stick it out, we take it off". Which she'll be informed of. And her cabin has dropped to the level of "well, you have a flat hard surface and a blanket".

Considering that Sharon has zero conscious memory of her interview with Dr. Randall, and nobody has told her why she's going...I expect she half-suspected this sort of treatment to begin with. She's waiting for the DU lined rubber hoses, antipsychotic drugs, needles, etc. etc... a keen observer of human nature might notice that the bravado's entirely false, and she's pretty much scared to death.

Items sent for testing:

Ymir's Darkest: a Heavy, dark beer, you can practically eat it with a spoon-but a low alcohol content for the type. Typical top-fermented beer, best consumed somewhat warm.

Gum: just that, gum. Wintergreen Spearmint.

Cigarettes: ordinary, if somewhat old and stale, ciggies. Lab analysis says one pack's been open for a month, the other for two.
The lighter needs a flint, and has rust-patches on the liner, indicating infrequent use.

The Lexan block: is a calibration sample for a geiger-counter. SMART lab-techs won't cut it open without putting it into a neutral-gas environment behind some nice, thick, leaded glass. PLU-240 is toxic stuff. (It's also what most closed-cycle reactors use for fuel. It's unlikely that sailors picked for this duty for their muscle would recognize it, but any decent Evidence-Lab tech, or NBC expert should immediately recognize something like this in a Military Environment... it's a tool they use.)

The Clock: disassembly finds several fairly-competent repairs to worn parts, and a small compartment in the base of the clock, this compartment holds several antidepressant capsules, the capsules are a 'mild' prescription fairly commonly given to manic-depressives to 'even them out'. The pills are dusty, and probably haven't been touched since they were prescribed, and are still in the foil-backing with a pharmacy label in sharon's name.
Krowemoh
27-04-2005, 05:10
... and are we about to watch Zukie get bounced out of the palace... into the snow, and ice, and horrible weather... did I mention the temperature?...

Don't worry about Zukie. Her father doesn't have THAT kind of power. She's just venting steam, as Kera said. :D

Besides, Krowemoh has taken a 'wait and watch' stance. But, do expect future trade shipments to be 'delayed due to quality assurances' until a satisfactory agreement can be reached. :D

For more info on how Krowemoh is reacting, please read Passing the Corporate Buck (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414478). Please note, it's about two to three days AHEAD of current events in "Harem's Way." ;P I better make a post in there right now, at any rate.

Grr... I wanna post the Spy satallites being moved into position, but I have to wait at least three IC days before I can do that. :(
Vastiva
27-04-2005, 05:30
Don't worry about Zukie. Her father doesn't have THAT kind of power. She's just venting steam, as Kera said. :D

Besides, Krowemoh has taken a 'wait and watch' stance. But, do expect future trade shipments to be 'delayed due to quality assurances' until a satisfactory agreement can be reached. :D

For more info on how Krowemoh is reacting, please read Passing the Corporate Buck (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414478). Please note, it's about two to three days AHEAD of current events in "Harem's Way." ;P I better make a post in there right now, at any rate.

Grr... I wanna post the Spy satallites being moved into position, but I have to wait at least three IC days before I can do that. :(

Regional Defense - if you move satellites directly over me, we shoot them into bits. If you look at an oblique angle (plausible), you might be able to do it, though the reception will be poor.

Ongoing really bad weather will make looking at Vastiva a poor idea at best - the electrical hurricaine will effectively block any attempt to look through it.

I'm not worried about Zukie's father. I'm wondering if she'll say "I'd like to leave" again. Non-citizens get moved back to their homeland. Citizens use the front door. Current weather, you wouldn't even make the gates.
Krowemoh
27-04-2005, 06:06
Well, then I guess Zukie's lucky she thought the guard was referring to her threat of having her father blockcade the heck out of Vastiva to the point that the country starves to death. :D

Hmmm... You don't say? Well, guess that means Gowa Industries won't be getting any good images of Vastiva. Ah well. Hard cheese on them. ;P
Krowemoh
27-04-2005, 06:14
What is Courtsy of Corinna Diamond's Clickable Links Inc.™ Ninja Vanish?

ACK! It was supposed to be courtesy. I missed that 'e.' Oops. >_>

And, cause you obviously don't know, but my real name is Corinna Diamond.

Clickable Links Inc is just something I thought would be funny to put.

™ means Trademarked, as in you can't use Clickable Links Inc as the name of your company, should you start one.

"What is Ninja Vanish?" You've never seen Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2? My, you poor, shealthered thing you! *Would go and rent TMNT2 for you, but doesn't know where to send the VHS.*
Krioval
27-04-2005, 07:58
Medea specifically asked for the sword to be placed on the floor to dispel thoughts that she is even contemplating treachery - if she can't hold the weapon, she can't use it against anyone. She's got a plan as to how to get information out of everybody (nicely).
Vastiva
27-04-2005, 08:11
We point out here that putting 184 people separate is an undertaking and a half. Good luck with that. ;)
Krioval
27-04-2005, 08:21
We point out here that putting 184 people separate is an undertaking and a half. Good luck with that. ;)

Oh, doesn't she know it. But it's still the best way to get information. It'd only last long enough to get a written statement from them. I'm thinking about the nightmares that individual interviews might become, depending on the number of people involved. And are there only 184 women there, not counting Medea and the guards?
Vastiva
27-04-2005, 08:39
Oh, doesn't she know it. But it's still the best way to get information. It'd only last long enough to get a written statement from them. I'm thinking about the nightmares that individual interviews might become, depending on the number of people involved. And are there only 184 women there, not counting Medea and the guards?

And those in the hospital (1) or morgue (2) or detained (5), or the ghosts, yes.
Krioval
27-04-2005, 08:55
Now to see if Medea can survive the next few hours...dear Gods, it's like tightrope walking on eggshells! :p
Vastiva
27-04-2005, 09:00
Well, Nova, you've got your "she's a guest". :D

Mossadiqqah - one who affirms the truth.

And you are having fun, admit it. :D

Anyone "psi" gifted will feel Alisha Sadiqah ibn Faroq pass like a cold wind across your grave; she registers as a "cold spot - active but cold".
Krioval
27-04-2005, 09:10
And you are having fun, admit it. :D

In my own sick and twisted way, yes. Even virtual power goes straight to my head given enough time. Getting to have Medea put Shama in her place was especially gratifying, even if it was impolitic.

So, Medea is pretty much convinced that the prime perpetrators behind the problems are native to Vastiva. She thinks this because no foreign government hostile to Vastiva is likely to allow a candidate to come (or Vastiva would block such a candidate as "unsuitable"), and friendly governments are likely to do extensive background checks before allowing a candidate to make the trip. I figure that Medea's past is about as big of a concealment that a government could hope to get away with, and as Krioval's experience shows, leaks happen. Heck, Raijin himself did damage control on that one. So if it's not unfriendly foreigners, and it's not friendly foreigners, it's likely natives.
Vastiva
27-04-2005, 09:25
That should creep her out for awhile, and explain why the Mossadiqqah aren't very common, or commonly used by anyone.

***

Any other character is free to interact back and forth - they haven't been cordoned off in any way yet, save to be "requested" to stay at their beds.

Sharon and Alexis can interact - the guard has been told only to stop her from leaving the room, not from talking.
Cadillac-Gage
27-04-2005, 10:58
That should creep her out for awhile, and explain why the Mossadiqqah aren't very common, or commonly used by anyone.

***

Any other character is free to interact back and forth - they haven't been cordoned off in any way yet, save to be "requested" to stay at their beds.

Sharon and Alexis can interact - the guard has been told only to stop her from leaving the room, not from talking.

I'm going to leave Sharon alone for a bit unless Alexis initiates contact-she's on the downslope from a three-month manic, (THat's 'up'), and I don't feel like writing near-suicidal depression tonight.

Engred's cutting loose on the guard because the answers she got from the Harem Staffer were, in her opinion, non-answers of the sort you get from Canton Officials when the Budget comes up short and there are potholes to be filled. She's spitting-nails angry about the fight, about the Polar-Bear Stingers, and about the fact that it took so long for the almost-ever-present security to show up at a miniature riot featuring explosives and swordplay, where two almost drowned, and two died. It's the Fatalities that has her back up the most. she considers the situation to be the result of people passing the buck and relying on policies instead of using either head, or mind, to realize something she sees as obvious-letting people carry weapons meant for outdoors into a place like the Harem is a bit, in her mind, like letting people carry tear-gas grenades into a crowded movie theatre, preschool, or restaraunt-it may be legal but it isn't smart or Responsible.

Of course, Engred has always taken 'Responsible' a little more seriously than most-her personality archetype is more like a 'parent', she forced Sharon to see a doc who prescribed antidepressants and mood-levellers after a suicide attempt. Engred is Sharon's "Best Buddy" because Sharon can't really manage to stay 'level' without supervision, and Engred's kind of a 'natural' at supervising-she does it without thinking about it or wanting to-she just can't not try to take care of other people.
Scandavian States
27-04-2005, 17:10
Just a note Krioval, Sadira is my character, not Nova Hope's. And as I said, she's the heir to an Imperial Duchy, she would kneel to only a handful of people of her own free will and none of them are presently in the room.
Krioval
27-04-2005, 19:55
That'd be the second time in one day, on two separate threads I've done that. Gah!

EDIT: iCorrect - twice.
Cadillac-Gage
27-04-2005, 21:33
Vastiva I've a problem (okay, more than one...):

I think I've dug myself into a hole with the Sharon bits. I had an idea, but I don't think it works too well as she sits right now-the development's all wrong for this RP, and it's a sideshow that doesn't seem to be contributing much to the game. She's got too much word-count to just forget she exists, but I may need some ideas/input on bowing-her-out gracefully without disrupting the flow of the main plots (and without giving her one of my patented "Humiliating and Mundane Deaths (tm)"). She's also a little too screwed up to be really useful right now-I think a stay in a looney-bin with doctors would be a nice place to stuff her until she can be used for something storyline-constructive.

The Engred bits are starting to come back up to the surface, (FINALLY!!!), so I'd like to focus more on her for the time being.

Unfortunately, I'm working again-six days a week, ten hour days, physically taxing labour on second shift-which puts me online in the early afternoon here locally, or dead-late-at-night (I get home around 0230 most nights).

Money's nice to have, though-I've been without steady income since the GI Bill ran out in December.
The Voltarum
27-04-2005, 23:33
Ka'tal is going to lay back, and wait for the authorities to come and question her =) As an aside, if the psi chick tries to read her, she will definitely get a swell of emotion... Ka'tal is an open book, but the emotion she holds back to do her job is intense. In addition, psi is not known to exist in the Voltarum (or if is, only the government knows about it) so Ka'tal will hold nothing back, and will probably not even realize the woman's abilities.
Findhorn
28-04-2005, 04:18
Phew. Myf in place; Myf virtually in trance. Anyone who wants to disturb her, trip over her, whatever, can, or she can go on praying until she gets that "thermos' effect. Otherwise, she's in stasis until I can catch up -- another damn deadline.
Krioval
28-04-2005, 04:32
That should creep her out for awhile, and explain why the Mossadiqqah aren't very common, or commonly used by anyone.

She's definitely unnerved, though she's conditioned even down to her thoughts to 'shelve' such feelings until later. I must also assume that the Mossadiqqah is speaking of the Sultan, unless you are precognitive and know where I'm taking the FoF RP with my characters! (That'd creep me out, BTW!)
Vastiva
28-04-2005, 06:16
She's definitely unnerved, though she's conditioned even down to her thoughts to 'shelve' such feelings until later. I must also assume that the Mossadiqqah is speaking of the Sultan, unless you are precognitive and know where I'm taking the FoF RP with my characters! (That'd creep me out, BTW!)

Ok, so you're creeped out... ;) She's most definitely not speaking of the Sultan, as there is nothing equivalent to a "priest" anywhere around. Vastiva taxes churches.
Krioval
28-04-2005, 06:23
Is it me in particular, or do you enjoy playing with everybody's mind like this? :p
Nova Hope
28-04-2005, 06:33
you should talk to him on ICQ...
Vastiva
28-04-2005, 08:03
I'm not evil I'm just..... well, wait, I've been a GM for how long?.... ok, yes, I am evil. :D


M-TCOD: Multipurpose device, used to access the Vastivan Intranet and the world Internet; also functions as a cellphone (video capacity), video or still camera, recorder, (yadda yadda). Real useful device with both "virtual" and real controls, about the size of a cellphone.
Vastiva
28-04-2005, 09:25
Detainees interrogations are rather polite compared to most any have seen.

All five are from the 14th Colonial Army, all from a commando unit assigned to Vastivan Alaska. All five were moved to Vastiva three weeks before the first harem members arrived, and made part of the group inserted in the Harem itself to "bulk up" numbers. Their general orders were to cause minor disruptions (from the Palace). Their specific orders (other source) were to cause nineteen members to depart, ostensibly of their own free will - and to "terminate the Noviet if she would not leave". Three of the five are convinced Sadira is the Noviet in question; the other two do not profess knowing who she is.

Secondary file, of the nineteen, nine remain, including Zukie, Kera, and Aliandra.

(If you want more information, do tell me what you want here)
Vastiva
29-04-2005, 07:38
Gah! People starting to untangle things... :eek:



:D
Vastiva
29-04-2005, 11:54
Yes, Engred is making herself sooooooo popular with the harem guards...

Yeah, I know, the investigation is a bit draggy - so get a connection to the VNET cable system (like Zukies flatscreen in the shower), watch some news, start putting things together... I'll add in another filler post in a bit.

Well, a bit longer then a bit, Friday is my 10th Anniversary...
Cadillac-Gage
29-04-2005, 13:10
From the out-of-character explanation of Engred's current perspective:

Basic security, here. Polar-Bear 'stingers' aren't the sort of party-favours you bring to a gathering of mostly-foreign, mostly-vulnerable, girls in an allegedly safe environment with meters of reinforced granite, concrete, and ice between them and any unauthorized wild animals.

From Engred's perspective, the fact that she (crippled by bandages) had to jump into a pool to save someone from drowning, (a job normally in the hands of whatever group manages said facility), while a riot complete-with-area-of-effect weapons was in full swing (and no guards to be had for several minutes) qualifies as 'time to deliver a Berating'-and in Cadillac-Gage, Scolding is a common, if not fine, art.

Her basic point still stands, though-the Stingers, and some of the other portions of the mini-riot were absolutely preventable. Without her having access to the orders specifying a certain amount of troublemaking on the part of that commando-team, it sure looks and smells like gross negiligence on the Security Detail's part-and their tardy arrival just doesn't help matters at all, even though it probably (thanks to internal palace intrigues) was unavoidable, two people are dead, and a score more are injured, and the entire incident was preventable using basic, ordinary, security rules you would find in almost any smallholder's house, much less the centre of the most important secure-building in the country, the home of the national leader.

Put 'short', in Engred's mind, after this latest incident, if she has to 'shame' the Guards into doing the 'responsible' thing, she'll do it, and care not one damn about how much they like or don't like her.
Krioval
29-04-2005, 18:11
Well, a bit longer then a bit, Friday is my 10th Anniversary...

Congratulations. My grandparents just had their fiftieth, and my parents' twenty-fifth is in August. Have some fun.
Cadillac-Gage
29-04-2005, 19:34
Yes, Engred is making herself sooooooo popular with the harem guards...

Yeah, I know, the investigation is a bit draggy - so get a connection to the VNET cable system (like Zukies flatscreen in the shower), watch some news, start putting things together... I'll add in another filler post in a bit.

Well, a bit longer then a bit, Friday is my 10th Anniversary...

Ten Years, congratulations!!!
Krioval
30-04-2005, 03:17
I'll let Sadiquh verify Engred's outburst - or not. Either way, the result should be interesting.

EDIT: Never mind. I'll just invent as needed to power this along.
Krioval
30-04-2005, 06:16
Detainees interrogations are rather polite compared to most any have seen.

All five are from the 14th Colonial Army, all from a commando unit assigned to Vastivan Alaska. All five were moved to Vastiva three weeks before the first harem members arrived, and made part of the group inserted in the Harem itself to "bulk up" numbers. Their general orders were to cause minor disruptions (from the Palace). Their specific orders (other source) were to cause nineteen members to depart, ostensibly of their own free will - and to "terminate the Noviet if she would not leave". Three of the five are convinced Sadira is the Noviet in question; the other two do not profess knowing who she is.

Secondary file, of the nineteen, nine remain, including Zukie, Kera, and Aliandra.

(If you want more information, do tell me what you want here)

I'd like to know what the "Noviet" is (if not *who* it is) and where the "other" orders came from, if possible. Otherwise I'm forced to make a series of messy decisions (which may be the intent after all, but still). More OOC information is better than not enough, which is what I'm feeling like I have. Sorry if I'm being unintentionally difficult.
Vastiva
30-04-2005, 07:29
Originally Posted by Vastiva
Detainees interrogations are rather polite compared to most any have seen.

All five are from the 14th Colonial Army, all from a commando unit assigned to Vastivan Alaska. All five were moved to Vastiva three weeks before the first harem members arrived, and made part of the group inserted in the Harem itself to "bulk up" numbers. Their general orders were to cause minor disruptions (from the Palace). Their specific orders (other source) were to cause nineteen members to depart, ostensibly of their own free will - and to "terminate the Noviet if she would not leave". Three of the five are convinced Sadira is the Noviet in question; the other two do not profess knowing who she is.

Secondary file, of the nineteen, nine remain, including Zukie, Kera, and Aliandra.

(If you want more information, do tell me what you want here)

I'd like to know what the "Noviet" is (if not *who* it is) and where the "other" orders came from, if possible. Otherwise I'm forced to make a series of messy decisions (which may be the intent after all, but still). More OOC information is better than not enough, which is what I'm feeling like I have. Sorry if I'm being unintentionally difficult.

You aren't.

"Noviet" - came from Nova Hope. That is Shizuka.

Other orders were transmitted through M-TCODs, not face to face, they do not have names to go with them, only that it came through "official channels", typical method for covert ops.
Krioval
30-04-2005, 07:33
"Noviet" - came from Nova Hope. That is Shizuka.

Why do they want her gone? Should Medea have some idea about that?

Other orders were transmitted through M-TCODs, not face to face, they do not have names to go with them, only that it came through "official channels", typical method for covert ops.

Huh. So Medea gets to report back that someone in the Vastivan government ordered an attack within the harem. "Fun".

Though I must admit the thought of calling Yassassin forth to testify about this under the interrogation of Kiv Andros (who's currently reeling from Raijin's admission of infidelity) and Valkai (Slasher) entertains me greatly, impossible as it is. :D
Vastiva
30-04-2005, 07:37
Though I must admit the thought of calling Yassassin forth to testify about this under the interrogation of Kiv Andros (who's currently reeling from Raijin's admission of infidelity) and Valkai (Slasher) entertains me greatly, impossible as it is. :D

Oh that would go well... :rolleyes: The main question being, after Nasiri left the room, how do you explain the dead bodies?

And it's not "someone in the Vastivan Government", it's "Someone with access to military coded channels".
Vastiva
30-04-2005, 07:38
Why do they want her gone? Should Medea have some idea about that?


Only what you know. :p
Vastiva
30-04-2005, 09:02
I think I've created a monster in Sharon...

Flexiscreens: The plastic is imbedded with what amounts to a plasma medium sandwiched in layers, each plasma layer "tuned" to a different set of frequencies. In the center is a series of projectors, transparent and made of a slightly harder plastic-mesh, each about the size of a pinhead and spaced on a geometric pattern (hexagrams).

As the signal is received, the computer signals the projectors, which broadcast on excessively short range - and cause the plasma to go from a chaotic state to an organized one in a very short time. Individually, each is making a small pattern of a single or few colors, but collectively they create the illusion of a 2D or 3D "image" floating inside a transparent "screen".

The receiver work along the lines of TiVo, recording the patterns for later display. The amount it holds is spread among a series of memory chips, along the base and edges of the screen itself. These are patterned to be fractal, and redundant, meaning a pattern will not be lost even if the screen is torn or abraded into that layer.

The outer plastic itself is a refinement of CAVEX, meaning it is hard wearing and difficult to tear or cut - mind you, not impossible - and the whole thing is heat resistant to just over 300 C (you can boil it and it will work just fine).

The original project was intended for use on the Tudrussel platform - this technology was leased to a shell corporation which then marketed it through Vastiva, with the profits going back into the VAA (Vastivan Aeronautics Administration) and the Ministry of Science and Technology, with the VAA receiving the lions share of the profits. The MST then funnels it back down to the various departments of it's agency (which includes the VAA) as it sees fit.

(Well, nuts, now Sharon has pieces of the puzzle...)
The Voltarum
30-04-2005, 15:24
happy 10th! =) I picked a good day to not check on this lol.
Cadillac-Gage
30-04-2005, 18:33
Voltarum: Great post on the Chess-match!
The Voltarum
01-05-2005, 02:26
heh, thanks... had that in my head all morning, and barely had enough time to pound it out before I had to leave. Glad it came out making sense =)
Krioval
01-05-2005, 03:03
Unsure of next move - some IC development would help immensely (unless it's not my 'turn' and I just get too paranoid when more than an hour goes by on the IC thread without a response)
Vastiva
01-05-2005, 05:49
Unsure of next move - some IC development would help immensely (unless it's not my 'turn' and I just get too paranoid when more than an hour goes by on the IC thread without a response)

Well, as most of the other characters are relatively quiet - though Volt's post was "WOW!" - methinks it's up to you to continue the investigation however you would like.
Vastiva
01-05-2005, 07:55
Krioval - just list a series of questions, or your direction of thought, and I'll put up a conversation, and we'll move a bit faster... I'll answer each one in turn.
Krioval
01-05-2005, 08:02
Basically, Medea wants to make sure that the Sultan is safe. Then her concerns delve into the chain of command in Vastiva itself. Things like:

"How is it possible for Palace Security to be unprepared for a possible breach such as the one this morning?" and

"How can the people issuing these 'secret orders' be located?" are likely to come up at some point. She'll stay on just the polite side of interrogating, but she's certainly unafraid to ask pointed and blunt questions.
Cadillac-Gage
01-05-2005, 08:16
Vastiva:

I know I took a couple liberties-

1.Engred feeling the Psi-probe and reacting (didn't do her any good, didn't hurt anything, but it let the...palace truthsayer know she's not dealing with a non-sensitive.)
I thought it would maybe free up some of the others when their turn comes up.

2. Phlynt Canton's language being on the database... I figured Sharon's home-Canton is the 'point of entry' for foreign merchies and a good location for Vastivan Intel people to infiltrate the godforsaken interior and get a look at the national military industrial complex. companies in that canton are more likely to deal with outsiders in high-risk deals, and usually it's more profitable for the foreigner than it is for the locals (simple scale economics here-what a Vastivan doing the same work will take home in two days will feed a family of four in Phlynt Canton for a week... think of some of those really bad areas of the Appalachian mountains, that are in a semipermanent depression...)
Vastiva
01-05-2005, 08:46
Vastiva:

I know I took a couple liberties-

1.Engred feeling the Psi-probe and reacting (didn't do her any good, didn't hurt anything, but it let the...palace truthsayer know she's not dealing with a non-sensitive.)
I thought it would maybe free up some of the others when their turn comes up.


No worries.



2. Phlynt Canton's language being on the database... I figured Sharon's home-Canton is the 'point of entry' for foreign merchies and a good location for Vastivan Intel people to infiltrate the godforsaken interior and get a look at the national military industrial complex. companies in that canton are more likely to deal with outsiders in high-risk deals, and usually it's more profitable for the foreigner than it is for the locals (simple scale economics here-what a Vastivan doing the same work will take home in two days will feed a family of four in Phlynt Canton for a week... think of some of those really bad areas of the Appalachian mountains, that are in a semipermanent depression...)

Good lead in for that which we discussed on TG. :D

The pictures of Engred would have to be from the hospital area - she hasn't been anywhere else - which is an acceptable leak (given a photo of a patient and someone emails a file... etc and so forth).
The Voltarum
01-05-2005, 14:39
A few things:

For anyone vaguely familiar with my country, they would recognize the seal on the envelope as the seal of the 1st House of the Voltarum - The House of Jassan. It is roughly the shape of an 8X11 piece of paper, and about 1 inch thick. It is not heavy - barely a pound.

I assume, Vast, you still have some sort of snail mail... if not, um, i can change that minor detail. =)

If it is intercepted and or opened, I will reveal the contents here.

Heh, this sounded a little too dreadful - there are no bombs, weapons, or any such device in the envelope, nor would it set off a metal detector. =)
Cadillac-Gage
01-05-2005, 22:06
A few things:

For anyone vaguely familiar with my country, they would recognize the seal on the envelope as the seal of the 1st House of the Voltarum - The House of Jassan. It is roughly the shape of an 8X11 piece of paper, and about 1 inch thick. It is not heavy - barely a pound.

I assume, Vast, you still have some sort of snail mail... if not, um, i can change that minor detail. =)

If it is intercepted and or opened, I will reveal the contents here.

Heh, this sounded a little too dreadful - there are no bombs, weapons, or any such device in the envelope, nor would it set off a metal detector. =)

Well... as my Shadowrun/Mechwarrior/Whitewolf/Twilight 2k groups say, there are bombs, and there are Plot Grenades. You don't need a "boom" to have an 'explosive' effect! :)
Scandavian States
01-05-2005, 22:34
Might we get on with questioning Sadira while I'm still here?
Vastiva
02-05-2005, 07:56
Krioval,. that's your cue. And minor moves by the guards, you can fill in.
Vastiva
02-05-2005, 09:00
"Getting back to bed would be another big plus."

Yes, but whose? :p
Cadillac-Gage
02-05-2005, 18:16
"Getting back to bed would be another big plus."

Yes, but whose? :p

I could make speculations on that-and suspect Sinjin might be a bit on the exhausted side by the end of the week...
Krioval
02-05-2005, 18:31
Sorry 'bout this, but I feel like I'm writing myself into a bit of a corner. A bit of a kick (here, preferably) would help (preferably more than *kick* would be said, as well).

As for the bed, I believe Medea was commanded to return to the Sultan's bed after the investigation. She'd never disobey a direct order, now. :D
Cadillac-Gage
02-05-2005, 21:21
Sorry 'bout this, but I feel like I'm writing myself into a bit of a corner. A bit of a kick (here, preferably) would help (preferably more than *kick* would be said, as well).

As for the bed, I believe Medea was commanded to return to the Sultan's bed after the investigation. She'd never disobey a direct order, now. :D

:D Gotta love it when you know where you're going!
It has occurred to me that Engred's little ranting fits are probably worthy of some barracks-humour among the guards once things look like they're settling down. So far, she's been in the Doctor's hands three times, done at least one stupidly-heroic thing (going out to help a drowner when you don't have hands is stupid-heroic, not smart-heroic), turned rabid-badger on an armed and nervous person, discounted her own life's value... and conducted an 'interview' with the Guard Captain and a Mossaddiqqah present that could burn the ears off a polar-bear.
IF by some strange twist of fate, Engred makes the final cut, I almost anticipate her carrying forever the palace security-code "Shrew" or some other small, vicious, bad-tempered-but-harmless animal within the security network-or possibly something worse, depending on what kind of jokes get told where she can't hear them. :D

Jokes about rabbits attacking wolves or polar-bears might end up seeming appropriate if things continue for Engred the way they have been.
Vastiva
03-05-2005, 04:02
:D Gotta love it when you know where you're going!
It has occurred to me that Engred's little ranting fits are probably worthy of some barracks-humour among the guards once things look like they're settling down. So far, she's been in the Doctor's hands three times, done at least one stupidly-heroic thing (going out to help a drowner when you don't have hands is stupid-heroic, not smart-heroic), turned rabid-badger on an armed and nervous person, discounted her own life's value... and conducted an 'interview' with the Guard Captain and a Mossaddiqqah present that could burn the ears off a polar-bear.
IF by some strange twist of fate, Engred makes the final cut, I almost anticipate her carrying forever the palace security-code "Shrew" or some other small, vicious, bad-tempered-but-harmless animal within the security network-or possibly something worse, depending on what kind of jokes get told where she can't hear them. :D

Jokes about rabbits attacking wolves or polar-bears might end up seeming appropriate if things continue for Engred the way they have been.

Let's put it this way... Engred is very lucky in that none of these people have a say in the matter. :D
Findhorn
03-05-2005, 04:05
Breathless after catch-up post, I've got some queries for the next one:

Will snail-mail be delivered to the candidates? Opened or unopened? And can they receive e-mails?

Can they send legit communications out? In what form?

Are the candidates permitted visitors, particularly as dinner-guests?

(If YES to the above, Myfanwy will want to send out for some typically Findhornian ingredients; if NO, she will want to have specific herbs delivered so she can make her gift.)

Finally, WHERE'S HER LUGGAGE, DAMMIT?

BTW, any chance of a nice formal meal, with entertainment, when all the candidates have arrived? A lot could happen there ...
Findhorn
03-05-2005, 04:15
Oh, yeah, forgot: a tussy-mussy is an orange spiked all over with cloves. It was carried by Elizabethan noble ladies when among the hoi-polloi. They would sniff it to cover the stink of unwashed bodies, open sewers, etc. Later called a pomander and sometimes made in silver pierced with tiny holes.

In Findhorn the term continued to be used but was expanded to include anything that served the same purpose, such as a sachet of herbs or sometimes just a bunch of highly-scented flowers.

You wouldn't believe how popular they can become in a nation that nurtures goats.
Vastiva
03-05-2005, 05:01
Breathless after catch-up post, I've got some queries for the next one:

I love these - people think.



Will snail-mail be delivered to the candidates? Opened or unopened? And can they receive e-mails?

Scanned, unopened unless questionable in some manner.

Email? Well, from the intranet, sure - the internet? First you have to plug in, and the only person with an M-TCOD is Medea. Normal computers will start having problems, and will eventually burn out.


Can they send legit communications out? In what form?

Gee, no one has asked to. You might even get out an illigitimate communication. ;)



Are the candidates permitted visitors, particularly as dinner-guests?


In the Harem itself, no. But there are many other locales.



(If YES to the above, Myfanwy will want to send out for some typically Findhornian ingredients; if NO, she will want to have specific herbs delivered so she can make her gift.)

Ask and ye shall receive. Nice having an "unlimited" budget.



Finally, WHERE'S HER LUGGAGE, DAMMIT?

It was "diverted" to annoy her, and should be returned when the investigation is over. Physically, it's in a closet near the Harem Guards Barracks.



BTW, any chance of a nice formal meal, with entertainment, when all the candidates have arrived? A lot could happen there ...

I hate it when players figure out the next scene ahead of time... :D
Vastiva
03-05-2005, 05:03
Oh, yeah, forgot: a tussy-mussy is an orange spiked all over with cloves. It was carried by Elizabethan noble ladies when among the hoi-polloi. They would sniff it to cover the stink of unwashed bodies, open sewers, etc. Later called a pomander and sometimes made in silver pierced with tiny holes.

In Findhorn the term continued to be used but was expanded to include anything that served the same purpose, such as a sachet of herbs or sometimes just a bunch of highly-scented flowers.

You wouldn't believe how popular they can become in a nation that nurtures goats.

SCAdian?
Gnufasur
03-05-2005, 05:22
Not much for Sae to do. I think I'll put her in Hibernate mode until she's needed for something. :D Laters.
Vastiva
03-05-2005, 05:49
You get the idea the Kadin Captain somewhat isn't making it easy for Medea? And perhaps is attempting to get her to blow up?

Wonder why....
Vastiva
03-05-2005, 05:50
This is, though, the time for Zukie to go postal about that group of Ariel's...
Krioval
03-05-2005, 05:57
You get the idea the Kadin Captain somewhat isn't making it easy for Medea? And perhaps is attempting to get her to blow up?

Wonder why....

Ah, but you forget the old Kriovalian philosophy:

If they want to fight, avoid the fight. If they want to avoid the fight, fight. It works wonders for diplomatic situations where the other nation is one Krioval cannot stand. Plus, it lets me sublimate my evil, evil nature without causing irreparable harm.
Krowemoh
03-05-2005, 06:25
This is, though, the time for Zukie to go postal about that group of Ariel's...

I know. Expect that soon enough. :D Oh yes, she has a feel choice words for them.


For the Telepath with Medea,
Zukie's mood/emotions: Right now, she fuming with anger. Lots of negative thoughts abound. A few involve Kera in rather... Unpleasent situations involving sharp things (Knives, broken glass, etc) and ropes(read rope, think barbed wire), while most are thoughts of Ariel and a few key members of the guard staff being tortured slowly in the fabled Faculty 312 of old Krowemoh.

Kera's mood/emotions: Right now, Kera's concerned with protecting Zukie's, as well as Gowa Industries', interests in this whole ordeal. She's worried about Zukie's anger, and hoping that she'll cool off soon, and won't do anything particularily nasty to her.

Faculty 312 is an old torture facility that's was first built under the Shin-Ra Tower in Earth Krowemoh, and then again on every planet in the Empire.

The new Faculty 312s are the absolute worst places for someone (Usually crimminals and political prisoners) to go, as many medical experiments (Of the bad sort, mind you) are performed there, as well as biological/Chemical weapons testings, and other goodies like that. But, compared to the old Faculty 312, the new ones are Club Meds in comparison. (For one, the 'Pyramid Head' executioners aren't in use anymore.) :D

All of them are deep underground too, with only one way in or out, and next to the CEOs of the Big Three, the entrance/exit to each facility are the heavist guarded things in the Empire. :D


... Hmmm... Umh, do you think that's TMI?
Vastiva
03-05-2005, 06:35
Yes and no. ;)
Krowemoh
03-05-2005, 06:48
Meow! :p Well, fine then. Grr...
Vastiva
03-05-2005, 06:57
Ah, but you forget the old Kriovalian philosophy:

If they want to fight, avoid the fight. If they want to avoid the fight, fight. It works wonders for diplomatic situations where the other nation is one Krioval cannot stand. Plus, it lets me sublimate my evil, evil nature without causing irreparable harm.

Vastivans love to haggle - it's a speciality which has served the nation well in business. We also play poker very well.

But there comes a point when the blades come out, and at that point - it's not a bluff. Green-robed guards are known to commit "suicidal attacks" to wipe out an attacker, without much thought to self-preservation. That they get state-of-the-art armor and weapons is more for their protection then to change their mindset.
Krowemoh
03-05-2005, 07:06
Vasty, could you hop on AIM, please?
-Ferris-
03-05-2005, 10:15
My apologies for falling off the face of the planet there; technical issues, you see.

Another thing, however; Cadillac-Gage said that he'd written Sharon into a corner, and wanted to ease her out somehow - is that still true? I'm unsure if it's OK for me to have Alexis talk to her, and without that there isn't much I can do right now.
Cadillac-Gage
03-05-2005, 19:32
My apologies for falling off the face of the planet there; technical issues, you see.

Another thing, however; Cadillac-Gage said that he'd written Sharon into a corner, and wanted to ease her out somehow - is that still true? I'm unsure if it's OK for me to have Alexis talk to her, and without that there isn't much I can do right now.

Oook! Yes!! Talk to her!! Just don't expect her to be totally coherent. Her prescription was incorrect, and the substances the doc gave her to substitute are treating the problem... unfortunately, side-effects. Sharon's in "Hyper-Manic" mode. (imagine female Miles Vorkosigan, if you're familiar with those books, but a science-nerd instead of a strategist or tactician).

They got a couple things right in the mix-she won't be suicidal coming down, but she will kind of "Flop" like a marionette with cut strings-there is no substitute for sleep, and Sharon's going to be going at high-rate-of-energy burn for a while yet. (Think 'human kitten' when awake, she's naturally hyper, when she runs out of juice, she just...drops.)

Vastiva gave me some great hooks to keep her around a bit longer, I still think she's going to end up hospitalized, because she does have a problem that is treatable-and the Vastivans have a better medical system than her home-country does (better technology, better understanding of brain chemistry, better diagnosis mechanism...), and if she's to be let out in public again, she's going to need some 'reserve' (which Engred has in spades, but Sharon has almost none.)
The Voltarum
04-05-2005, 00:43
In response to your IC OOC, 10,000 Polar Crowns is nothing for Guy, since he is certainly not funding this himself. The House of Jassan is very wealthy =) Hence the suite at the hotel as well =) (plus, Al has had to have like, two dozen herring milkshakes by now... after all, this much closer to MP they must be much better...) lol

Btw, wtf I hate thirdgeek. Every single time i NEED to use it (just wanted to exhange your PC to Volts) it is fricking down. Grrr, says I, grrr.
Vastiva
04-05-2005, 07:08
Oook! Yes!! Talk to her!! Just don't expect her to be totally coherent. Her prescription was incorrect, and the substances the doc gave her to substitute are treating the problem... unfortunately, side-effects. Sharon's in "Hyper-Manic" mode. (imagine female Miles Vorkosigan, if you're familiar with those books, but a science-nerd instead of a strategist or tactician).

They got a couple things right in the mix-she won't be suicidal coming down, but she will kind of "Flop" like a marionette with cut strings-there is no substitute for sleep, and Sharon's going to be going at high-rate-of-energy burn for a while yet. (Think 'human kitten' when awake, she's naturally hyper, when she runs out of juice, she just...drops.)

Vastiva gave me some great hooks to keep her around a bit longer, I still think she's going to end up hospitalized, because she does have a problem that is treatable-and the Vastivans have a better medical system than her home-country does (better technology, better understanding of brain chemistry, better diagnosis mechanism...), and if she's to be let out in public again, she's going to need some 'reserve' (which Engred has in spades, but Sharon has almost none.)

I doubt highly she's going to be hospitalized, considering the treatment and diagnostic ability of Vastiva, particularly in treating bipolars.

As to the "let out in public"... define "public" :D
-Ferris-
04-05-2005, 07:13
Eeeeex-cellent. Will do so, then, when I've gathered up all the relevant posts and so forth.

And yes, I am familiar with the work of Lois McMaster Bujold - I don't own any of the Vorkosigan books myself, but I have The Curse of Chalion on my bookshelf. Great thing.

... This doesn't mean Sharon has a clone out there with multiple personalities and assassin training, does it?
Vastiva
04-05-2005, 07:25
Vastivan Polar Crowns: 1 PC = 2.7183 USD

Voltarum Volts: 1 V = 1.6538 USD

1 PC = 1.6436 V

or

1 V = 0.6084 PC

Oh yes, they're not going to allow Sharon to close her door so long as there's more then a blanket in there. Reruns of "MacGyver" are popular in Vastiva, as are first runs of "Clan MacGyver". Yes, we buy rights to TV shows - with 5000 standard channels, competition is rough. Then again, there is always something on TV...
Vastiva
04-05-2005, 07:39
Myfanwy must have accosted a purple-robe... harem ghosts aren't allowed to use "I" or "me". ;)

And as Volt is fond of pointing out, Vastiva is rather high in the whole of NSEarth in the export of cheese - goat cheeses are the only type available domestically. We have lots of goats.

And just for you, Volt - and anyone else who reads copies of our capital's local paper... well, one of them... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8808488&postcount=82)
Vastiva
04-05-2005, 09:00
Now, Krioval, the problem here is (a) Sinjin really is in conference with Nova Hope's character about a few things, and (b) Nova isn't currently up and around to RP it out, so I'm going to go with a short stall.
Krioval
04-05-2005, 09:08
Yeah, well, Medea's in a bitchy mood right now, so she's going to push the envelope about as far as she can, short of physical force. After all, the Kriovalian personality (collective) can best be described as "difficult".

But your RP, your rules, so let me know what needs to be done and when.
Vastiva
04-05-2005, 09:12
Yeah, well, Medea's in a bitchy mood right now, so she's going to push the envelope about as far as she can, short of physical force. After all, the Kriovalian personality (collective) can best be described as "difficult".

But your RP, your rules, so let me know what needs to be done and when.

I'm just stalling the character's ability to "rejoin" Sinjin. No "rules" here, per se, save "No Killing the Sultan". I'd rather have people open to possibilities... such as "Medea with authority".
Cadillac-Gage
04-05-2005, 11:03
Vastivan Polar Crowns: 1 PC = 2.7183 USD

Voltarum Volts: 1 V = 1.6538 USD

1 PC = 1.6436 V

or

1 V = 0.6084 PC

Oh yes, they're not going to allow Sharon to close her door so long as there's more then a blanket in there. Reruns of "MacGyver" are popular in Vastiva, as are first runs of "Clan MacGyver". Yes, we buy rights to TV shows - with 5000 standard channels, competition is rough. Then again, there is always something on TV...

One of the truly dreadful things about genius, is that it never quite goes where one might want it to. Sharon figured out that local materials-sciences back home couldn't handle the thermally-durable plastics... but it inspired her in a wholly different direction.

She thinks she might have found a way to generate more than mere "anti-particles", as in "Whole Atoms of Antimatter", and microencapsulate them safely... at a fairly low cost.

She's probably going to run out of notebook before she runs out of ideas on how to turn her new hypothesis into an effective experiment. It's going to be weeks before she realizes how dangerous what she's jotting down really is, and months-or-years before she can figure out a useful thing to do with it should the experiments succeed.

My excuse? She's from Phlynt, ergo, appearances (and desperate attempts not to be) she's a redneck, y'all know what happens when ya let the rednecks in to play with the Physics lab...

she's probably making the guard a little bit worried, though-especially if he sneaks a peek at what she's doodling out, and understands even a hunderedth of it.
Findhorn
04-05-2005, 13:54
Ohhh, why did you do that, Vastiva? It surely isn't proper to have a well-trained Sister of Findhorn succumbing to shopping fever. (But she's never had an unlimited budget before, and surely the Sultan owes it to her, since she can't help but feel that he, personally, is responsible for the missing luggage -- which doesn't contain anything interesting, really, except for a hand-smocked russet gown she usually wears for folk-singing).

I did take your hint about the newspapers getting to Findhorn, and had every intention of the latest post being about the reaction there, until you trailed that red herring in front of me. Still to come, as being the only way anyone's likely to open Myfanwy's eyes to any danger.

Unlikely though it may seem, in view of her current state, Myfanwy is sincerely devoted. Her reaching-out prayers failed because the Abbey, all unknowing, has been using group telepathy for years. Her Goddess call succeeded because she entered the same measurable physical state that people do when meditating (this is based on recent research using a CAT scanner that showed the same areas of the brain lighting up in a praying nun and in a deeply meditating person).

I'm thinking of getting to a point where the Herald can involve Myfanwy, Ka'tal and Neira -- or Myfanwy can blunder somehow and involve the Herald -- in whatever's going on (naturally on the side of sweetness and light). Would that fit in with your over-view? Depending, of course, on whatever hi-jinks you're planning for the banquet.
The Voltarum
04-05-2005, 23:37
Vastivan Polar Crowns: 1 PC = 2.7183 USD

Voltarum Volts: 1 V = 1.6538 USD

1 PC = 1.6436 V

or

1 V = 0.6084 PC


Man. And I thought my economy wasn't doign too bad lol. Then again, I should have expected that given the ranking you have in the region (which I just checked when I updated the map lol.

And just for you, Volt - and anyone else who reads copies of our capital's local paper... well, one of them...

Haha. Very nice =)

Oh, and about the last OC post - Al is just going for some intel =) No need to RP it out, but he WILL ask a lot of questions, specifically, inquiring about the places the tour will not go, the status of the Harem and where they are located etc. Feel free to divulge and info that he may find useful to tell Guy. =)
Vastiva
05-05-2005, 04:22
One of the truly dreadful things about genius, is that it never quite goes where one might want it to. Sharon figured out that local materials-sciences back home couldn't handle the thermally-durable plastics... but it inspired her in a wholly different direction.

She thinks she might have found a way to generate more than mere "anti-particles", as in "Whole Atoms of Antimatter", and microencapsulate them safely... at a fairly low cost.

She's probably going to run out of notebook before she runs out of ideas on how to turn her new hypothesis into an effective experiment. It's going to be weeks before she realizes how dangerous what she's jotting down really is, and months-or-years before she can figure out a useful thing to do with it should the experiments succeed.

My excuse? She's from Phlynt, ergo, appearances (and desperate attempts not to be) she's a redneck, y'all know what happens when ya let the rednecks in to play with the Physics lab...

she's probably making the guard a little bit worried, though-especially if he sneaks a peek at what she's doodling out, and understands even a hunderedth of it.

I have "Rednecks with money" running amuck on Krioval... I know the symptoms...
Vastiva
05-05-2005, 04:25
Ohhh, why did you do that, Vastiva? It surely isn't proper to have a well-trained Sister of Findhorn succumbing to shopping fever. (But she's never had an unlimited budget before, and surely the Sultan owes it to her, since she can't help but feel that he, personally, is responsible for the missing luggage -- which doesn't contain anything interesting, really, except for a hand-smocked russet gown she usually wears for folk-singing).

I did take your hint about the newspapers getting to Findhorn, and had every intention of the latest post being about the reaction there, until you trailed that red herring in front of me. Still to come, as being the only way anyone's likely to open Myfanwy's eyes to any danger.

Unlikely though it may seem, in view of her current state, Myfanwy is sincerely devoted. Her reaching-out prayers failed because the Abbey, all unknowing, has been using group telepathy for years. Her Goddess call succeeded because she entered the same measurable physical state that people do when meditating (this is based on recent research using a CAT scanner that showed the same areas of the brain lighting up in a praying nun and in a deeply meditating person).

I'm thinking of getting to a point where the Herald can involve Myfanwy, Ka'tal and Neira -- or Myfanwy can blunder somehow and involve the Herald -- in whatever's going on (naturally on the side of sweetness and light). Would that fit in with your over-view? Depending, of course, on whatever hi-jinks you're planning for the banquet.

I have a very general outline, subject to change by players actions. You - and any other player - can feel free to hand out any boomerang you want into the plot. The game adapts, you're not on any sort of script.
Vastiva
05-05-2005, 06:26
... When in doubt, stick Medea in an uncomfortable position. *heh*

Volt, you can assume that's Al whose camera just went off.
Krioval
05-05-2005, 07:22
Oh. I'm sooooooooooooooooo surprised.
Vastiva
05-05-2005, 07:25
Oh. I'm sooooooooooooooooo surprised.

Dang, and I thought I was setting precedent.... oh well, everyone needs a hobby. I wonder how she's going to handle shopping.
Nova Hope
05-05-2005, 11:38
You could slip in some more testers. Perhaps the occasional klepto, then tell Medea she's in charge :P
Cadillac-Gage
05-05-2005, 11:54
You could slip in some more testers. Perhaps the occasional klepto, then tell Medea she's in charge :P


now, now, Medea's already getting more work than she can probably handle. THAT would be as mean to the surviving candidates, as putting Sharon in there without treatment or medication...
Nova Hope
05-05-2005, 16:13
No we'd never do that. Occasionally toss something breakable at her and say catch maybe...
Vastiva
06-05-2005, 08:32
Simple outline of what is to come:

Arrange for the shopping trip (I don't mind if Myfanwy leaks it around the harem somehow).
The trip itself (sorry folks, no attacks here. Unless you wrestle over the same dress or something).
The "ball", first official meeting with Sinjin - and the Council and many of the "upper crust" so to speak. I'm sure Guy can finagle Goldie (Vizier of Artistic Expression Goldie Ohana) into inviting him as a date as, "deep down, she's rather shallow". :p Alright, so she's a downright flake with a complex about being the center of attention...
The Voltarum
06-05-2005, 23:18
Hrm... good idea. Although now I need to get Guy to know about the ball, have some clue to ask Goldie, and THEN find her lol.

TG me about finding her if you can, unless you want me to pick a random art gallery opening =)
Krioval
07-05-2005, 02:26
My apologies for not posting earlier, but I wasn't inspired last night (my best work still tends to be *before* midnight) and I didn't have enough time this morning.
Vastiva
07-05-2005, 04:00
My apologies for not posting earlier, but I wasn't inspired last night (my best work still tends to be *before* midnight) and I didn't have enough time this morning.

No worries - there seemed to be a general "day off" in the forum last night.

Volt - see TG.
-Ferris-
07-05-2005, 04:35
A note upon the sciences in Ferris;

Physics, such as it is, developed directly out of mediaeval alchemical practices. While it gradually developed a scientific method, and lost the mysticism, it still lacks anything so rigorous as Einsteinian relativity - Ferris' model of the universe is based upon many different theories, often mutually contradicting.

This is aided and abetted by the fact that certain theories of physics considered obsolete elsewhere in the universe are supported in Ferris by observational evidence; for instance, they have a method of refining phlostigon (particles of heat from 19th-Century science), and, more importantly, insulation sufficient to keep it in one place.

Since it has negative mass, it makes a good lifting gas; I don't know if anyone noticed, but that's why Ferris' large aircraft have stubby wings. They don't need large lifting surfaces.

The theoretical alchemy community is currently working on economically viable methods of refining the luminiferous æther.

All that is neither here nor there, of course, since Alexis isn't up to date with current science either in Ferris or the rest of the world.
Vastiva
07-05-2005, 06:11
In answer to your question, Volt - not counting Deputy and "unofficial" Viziers, there are thirty-nine Viziers in the Vastivan government.

All Viziers - except the Grand Vizier and the Vizier of International Activities - fit in the Department of Domestic Activities. The Grand Vizier is above all three sections of government, and the VIA is in the Department of Peace.

The Chief Architect (Kava Noordi-al-Naaman) is "officially" a Vizier, though he holds another title in name. This schism happened during the reign of Siiking al-Din Shumash, “the Builder”, who wanted a differentiation and got it.


TCOD = "Trinary Communication Operations Device" The "M" means "Mobile".

These are also referred to as "Fish" by the locals, though with the Intranet having become "free territory", they are also bemusedly referred to as meaning “More Technology Causes Our Dissent!”
Cadillac-Gage
07-05-2005, 11:41
Feeling Guilty?

Engred's temper-flare burned out with her nap, and now she's really, really, embarassed by it. In typical fashion, she's openly accepting responsibility for being a prat about the whole matter.

This should, I think, cause some amusement among the guards, since she doesn't know them by-eyebrows, and is probably going to be apologizing to each one as she encounters them.

Engred doesn't hold grudges very well. Given what we've seen of the Vastivan culture so far, I think her apologies might be source for great amusement in the Barracks-seeing the grumpy barbarian humble herself like that is probably fodder for all sorts of off-colour jokes... or not. Depending. Somehow, I don't think they've been primed to expect blunt apology from Harem Candidates. This could be interesting.
Cadillac-Gage
07-05-2005, 11:45
A note upon the sciences in Ferris;

Physics, such as it is, developed directly out of mediaeval alchemical practices. While it gradually developed a scientific method, and lost the mysticism, it still lacks anything so rigorous as Einsteinian relativity - Ferris' model of the universe is based upon many different theories, often mutually contradicting.

This is aided and abetted by the fact that certain theories of physics considered obsolete elsewhere in the universe are supported in Ferris by observational evidence; for instance, they have a method of refining phlostigon (particles of heat from 19th-Century science), and, more importantly, insulation sufficient to keep it in one place.

Since it has negative mass, it makes a good lifting gas; I don't know if anyone noticed, but that's why Ferris' large aircraft have stubby wings. They don't need large lifting surfaces.

The theoretical alchemy community is currently working on economically viable methods of refining the luminiferous æther.

All that is neither here nor there, of course, since Alexis isn't up to date with current science either in Ferris or the rest of the world.

Hmmm... interesting. I'll get to Sharon when I'm not half-exhausted from work. (I don't have to work tomorrow!!! YAY!!!!!!!)
Vastiva
08-05-2005, 03:27
A good understanding of Vastivan manners could be achieved by understanding Muslim guest beliefs.
Scandavian States
08-05-2005, 06:34
Well boys and girls, I'm to the point where I'm forced to bow out of this RP. Unfortunately my committments to the United States government mean I will be unable to continue this RP.

Vastiva, I would request the you find a way to quietly fold Sadira into the harem, although how you deal with this situation is up to you as you are the Game Master. However, I require that she not be seriously injured or killed.
-Ferris-
08-05-2005, 08:30
Vastiva, the link in your latest post is kinky or something - it's to some kind of search engine. What's with that?

Also, I feel I should possibly clarify for Cadillac-Gage (although I can work with what you've given me, never fear - it's a reasonable assumption on Sharon's behalf) - Ferris does have particle physics. It's flaw is more in taking particle physics to an extreme - heat is a particle (phlostigon), as is light (æther) and (theoretically) gravity (gravitons). They have no concept of antimatter per se, but that sort of dualistic approach is easily grasped.

Post to come later, once I've eaten.
Cadillac-Gage
08-05-2005, 08:37
Well boys and girls, I'm to the point where I'm forced to bow out of this RP. Unfortunately my committments to the United States government mean I will be unable to continue this RP.

Vastiva, I would request the you find a way to quietly fold Sadira into the harem, although how you deal with this situation is up to you as you are the Game Master. However, I require that she not be seriously injured or killed.
Good luck and keep your eyes open, dude.
Vastiva
08-05-2005, 08:46
Well boys and girls, I'm to the point where I'm forced to bow out of this RP. Unfortunately my committments to the United States government mean I will be unable to continue this RP.

Vastiva, I would request the you find a way to quietly fold Sadira into the harem, although how you deal with this situation is up to you as you are the Game Master. However, I require that she not be seriously injured or killed.

Fear not, she'll be around when you get back.

Head down - and good luck. Send word when you get work ;)
Vastiva
08-05-2005, 08:48
Vastiva, the link in your latest post is kinky or something - it's to some kind of search engine. What's with that?

For some idiot reason I typed in http://http://http://(url). Nothing like occasional stupidity to brighten up the day. :headbang:


Also, I feel I should possibly clarify for Cadillac-Gage (although I can work with what you've given me, never fear - it's a reasonable assumption on Sharon's behalf) - Ferris does have particle physics. It's flaw is more in taking particle physics to an extreme - heat is a particle (phlostigon), as is light (æther) and (theoretically) gravity (gravitons). They have no concept of antimatter per se, but that sort of dualistic approach is easily grasped.

Post to come later, once I've eaten.

Interesting take on things.
Cadillac-Gage
08-05-2005, 09:22
Wow... being rested sure brings out weird things at 2318 hours...

It's almost too bad I didn't have Dr. Russell come along- I hae this 'orrible image in my head, of someone holding a leash at Vastivan Customs, with Sharon on the collar-end, saying (per Oscar Wilde) "I have nothing to Declare, but my Genius." gesturing at little Sharry, who is, in this sick image, slavering like "Animal" from the Muppet Show, with the addendum added by said handler, "Please don't stroke the genius, she bites."

(okay, I thought it was funny...)
-Ferris-
08-05-2005, 09:41
It made me laugh too!

Footnote to above; transmutation of matter, while possible, is not currently economically feasible; otherwise the economy of Ferris would probably collapse and they'd all be roofing houses with gold.

Philosopher's Stone probably exists, I haven't made my mind up; given that it's supposedly the vehicle for transmutation of matter, it probably should. Hooray for the Platonic ideal matter.

Writing post now ...
Vastiva
08-05-2005, 10:19
Mathematically, it's possible to transmute Pb into Au. It's also far more expensive then it is worth.

And I would note here that Sharon may be a whiz, but the design she is looking at is ahead of anything her nation has, so most likely her mania is making her a little... schitz. ;)

Given the general dislike of allowing a "MacGyver" anything approaching a Swiss Army Knife, the ability to make a model is... very out of the question. But you knew that.

Oh - and it's not fried herring, but you probably knew that too and she's just missing obvious things.
-Ferris-
08-05-2005, 10:32
I read somewhere that (mild) schitzophrenia is often associated with geniuses; it makes them better lateral thinkers and thus more creative.

And yes, you've hit the nail on the head with the transmutation there. :)

Technology-wise, Ferris is probably best described as "steampunk"; it generally sits around 1950's - 1960's in terms of real-world equivalency, although there are all those weird bits which make it so interesting.
Cadillac-Gage
08-05-2005, 10:47
Mathematically, it's possible to transmute Pb into Au. It's also far more expensive then it is worth.

And I would note here that Sharon may be a whiz, but the design she is looking at is ahead of anything her nation has, so most likely her mania is making her a little... schitz. ;)

Given the general dislike of allowing a "MacGyver" anything approaching a Swiss Army Knife, the ability to make a model is... very out of the question. But you knew that.

Oh - and it's not fried herring, but you probably knew that too and she's just missing obvious things.

Oh, yeah, she's a little bit 'Schitz', I'd almost say she's Finagled, but on the gripping hand, she's also a teenager whose aging process is...slowed a bit.

The fact that she understands as much as she does, means that while she doesn't know she doesn't know, she can learn it quickly once she's back "On balance" chemically and given the chance.

As it is, the Sailor's comment about "His Emily" and too much chocolate/sugar is right-on-track, and honestly, I'm really enjoying playing up Sharon's Zaniness-she makes a nice counterpoint to Engred's flat-shoes practicality.
-Ferris-
08-05-2005, 11:05
My brain is shutting down again, so I can't think how to reply to that right now. Assume Alexis to be sketching away happily.
Cadillac-Gage
08-05-2005, 11:24
My brain is shutting down again, so I can't think how to reply to that right now. Assume Alexis to be sketching away happily.

Both girls are 'happily' occupied for now. Sharon's antimatter work is solid enough, in a few weeks RL time, depending on where she is, I'm toying with the idea of setting up an espionage/technothriller based RP called "Fear in a handfull of dust"-it's no good as a power-source, but it's an incredibly nasty explosive Sharon's done the theoretical work (and some engineering) to create.
Whether she finishes the work for the Vastivan government, or back home in Cadillac-Gage, is up to the outcome of the RP here. I'm cheerfully stealing a John Ringo idea here.

It's 0321 here, I've got a parental visit to mom set for tomorrow (an errand for Mother's Day, okay? I normally 'forget' but this year's been one that I've wound up with a lot more appreciation for my family than in past years. Showing some gratitude is definitely on the schedule.)
Cadillac-Gage
09-05-2005, 07:40
...and they haul him off to prison on various charges...




OOC: Don't know who you are, you didn't sign up, and that gala doesn't have the Sultan at it. TTFN.

LOL!!!
Vastiva
09-05-2005, 07:49
That's me, subtle as a brick to the forehead sometimes...
Gnufasur
09-05-2005, 09:08
So... Lost... @_@

lol Got lotsa back-reading to do... Sigh... IC post probably tomorrow, though. I'm hitting the sack soon. Otherwise, I'll very closely resemble the waking undead tomorrow. >_>
Vastiva
09-05-2005, 09:57
So... Lost... @_@

lol Got lotsa back-reading to do... Sigh... IC post probably tomorrow, though. I'm hitting the sack soon. Otherwise, I'll very closely resemble the waking undead tomorrow. >_>

Thanks for reminding me I have to do another update.

In short - zukie and kera on bed, "Shopping" has been inadvertantly announced by Myfanwy (all over the place....)... and we're waiting to see with the kitties do. ;)
Vastiva
10-05-2005, 04:57
CG, I gotta say, you're very good at this.
Vastiva
10-05-2005, 05:48
Volt, I don't think "trans-modernism" exists, which is good as neither does Koolhaas you picked the one name I made up... sheesh!)

Feel free to wax poetic.
Vastiva
10-05-2005, 10:29
As far as the "I'm LOST!" Telegrams go -

Characters in the Harem have "SHOPPING EXPEDITION" showing up on all the pillars and every screen available due to Myfanwy.

They should all be able to figure out from that - from the room's gossip - that there will be a formal-ish gathering of the higher ups of Vastiva tonight, and they will all be allowed to go out and "Shop" on Vastiva's dime.

Splurge your hearts out, that's all I ask here, once you get out there.

Vastivan's are very "guest concious" and will go to lengths to accomidate their guests, particularly this sort of guest.

As to the huge snarl that is really going on - you'll all find out much more at the party, I promise. And no fights will happen, unless you decide to beat on each other.

... wonder where Ariel has gotten to...
Cadillac-Gage
10-05-2005, 10:29
CG, I gotta say, you're very good at this.

Thanks. Perception impacts attitude. Engred's perceptions the last few days in-country have been coloured by a combination of her discomfort, and her culturally imprinted self-sufficiency bug. It's this latter that's really been her big problem. Unlike a healthy person, she actually needs to be helped, a situation that is incredibly uncomfortable for her. (this is probably in contrast to a lot of the girls that didn't stay, who loved the attention...) So, with that in mind, eventually, her little fit was more or less an emotional release-valve of feelings she's been sitting on and hiding from her self.
Sleep, and a bit of rest, and she's abashed at how she's been acting, which in turn changes her perceptions of what she is experiencing agian-instead of being 'smothering', it's suddenly something positive.
The Vastivans didn't change anything-Engred changed, but like a lot of changes of that sort, she feels (and therefore thinks) that it's the other way 'round.

Hence, her perception of their behaviour is improved, while the behaviour has not altered a whit, either positively or negatively.

BTW: Loved the bit about "Provincial" pretty. It fits Engred to a "tee". She's got a face and hair (and build) to make it work.
that, and a tendency to favour solid, neutral colours and simple, somewhat dignified clothes, even after the shopping trip, her outfits will draw the eye to her face, rather than...other assets. i.e. she'll probably be one of the most "Sedately" dressed young ladies at the dinner (Not that it won't be tight or well-tailored, just that she won't be... um...)
Vastiva
10-05-2005, 11:21
What can I say, GMTA. :)
Vastiva
11-05-2005, 09:50
A sideways look at Vastiva's view of cuisine.... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8856554&postcount=43)

Two days to vacation, so my mind is not all anywhere, apologies to everyone... :(
The Voltarum
12-05-2005, 00:59
heh, my brain is also fried... may does it every year =\

Oh and congrats, mr Delegate ;-)

Voltarum
Vastiva
13-05-2005, 06:43
Gotta love Jolt... ever other day.
Vastiva
13-05-2005, 10:38
No one will ever believe that was an accident - I *niced* my way into Delegacy.

Everyone in the Harem is free to move themselves from the Harem to the transport bus (just like the other one, large, on big wheels - heated - polar bear fur covered seats) to the Mall.

It's bloody huge (The Mall of America could fit inside, twice) And you folks are about all that's in there, except for some green-robes and the salespeople (who are going to be awed and attempting to get "better looks" and photos and signed cards and whatnot).
-Ferris-
13-05-2005, 11:01
Would there be any objections to moving the Nasimah somewhat closer to Vastiva, or indeed to the country itself? Things seem to have stalled aboard, and I'm sure nobody wants to be stuck at the bottom of the sullen Southern seas forever.
Cadillac-Gage
13-05-2005, 11:08
"Boom".
Vastiva
13-05-2005, 11:24
Would there be any objections to moving the Nasimah somewhat closer to Vastiva, or indeed to the country itself? Things seem to have stalled aboard, and I'm sure nobody wants to be stuck at the bottom of the sullen Southern seas forever.

Nope - feel free to arrive, get to port - and get transported to, of all thngs, a mall.
Vastiva
13-05-2005, 11:25
"Boom".

First effective attack by Janus bin Toto, and first time Nasiri isn't aware of what's likely to happen beforehand. :D
Vastiva
13-05-2005, 11:36
Speaking of which, if any nation playing is interested in being on the receiving end of some directed terrorism (though this is secondary to the main plotline, it still has some interesting potential) click here and sign up. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=417981&page=1&pp=15)
-Ferris-
13-05-2005, 12:03
Anything I should know about the port or so forth first?
Cadillac-Gage
13-05-2005, 20:08
An explanation of Engred's behaviour on the way to (and aboard) the bus:

Engred's people don't have a 'Terrorist' problem, because their reaction-set is wrong for terror tactics to work effectively. Janus-Bin-Toto, by using violence to object to Engred's being there (in Vastiva, as a Harem Candidate) just created the opposite reaction to what they'd been angling for- her people, when they become aware of it, will support her, dropping their ill-informed 'moral' objections to her candidacy.

It's a 'bullies' thing-the bully has used force, naturally, the correct cultural response, is to deny the bully even the smallest of victories. This shakes out as public pressure in Cadillac-Gage's media and other areas for Engred to "Keep fighting", and a government/goodwife head-hunt for the perpetrators.

CG's actually tend to emulate (in groups) their National Animal- they don't usually go places, and when threatened, they are more likely to attack, than to retreat, and they don't surrender.

Of course, they're more sensible about how they go about it, than just jumping onto the nearest percieved threat and tearing at it...

Engred's a product of that culture. The terrorists want her to bow out, therefore, she will redouble her efforts to win a spot in the Harem.

She'd have had the vision sooner, (Possibly before the bombing) but the Harem, and much of the Palace itself, are well-insulated from psychic echoes and other mystical phenomena-she wouldn't be aware of it at all had she not gone outside those walls to board the bus.

Physiological reactions are kind of in a direct-proportion to the physicality of the event-the perps weren't present, nobody who was aware of what was happening was present, and most of the passengers died without knowing they'd been killed. Hence, the residues were weak enough she had a bit of vertigo, and the natural 'ill feeling' that comes out of watching innocent people die-but that's it.

Depending on when V wants to release it on the public 'nets (Timeline for the player-characters), Engred knows she has to pretend nothing is wrong-at least, within view of anyone not in the harem or on the Palace staff.

It would, after all, give the bullies entirely too much credit, to let them (or a camera) see her crying.

It will be four to six hours before the Newscasts in Cadillac-Gage pick up the story (0700 is the usual 'start time' for local news there). Given time-differences, this means that the story will break back home sometime in the early evening, after the shopping trip, and slightly before dinner.
Vastiva
13-05-2005, 20:33
Anything I should know about the port or so forth first?

a) It's subterranian, as are all "winter ports". The area where the submarines are is chilly, but not freezing - though the water has "smoke" on it - and she is warned not to fall in. Rails with fence are between people and the water.
b) Only submarines will be seen, unloading cargo, all of the same design, with their "front decks" open for unloading. Cranes and manpower is used.
c) Dramatically efficient, connected to monorail lines and such.
d) Customs is very small - no one travels this time of year, particularly not this way - and she'll be moved around it in any case,
e) The Captain herself will take Alexis thru customs. Sharon will be taken by two crewmembers to two green-robed guards who take her "somewhere else".
f) Drayaa will meet Alexis after Sharon has been "vanished". She is accompanied by two green-robed armed guards who won't speak and "communicate" to each other with looks. No green-robed guard ever speaks.


She is met by by a rather pretty woman, dressed in what at first appears to be of deep blue cloth richly embroidered with silver runes and patterns; but as she moves the inside and lining became more in evidence as fur and leather cunningly worked to allow full freedom of movement with little availability of the wearer to the elements. Her boots are decorated with a double strand of silver thread woven into patterns mimicking those on the burnoose; a double looping anklet of small silver coins and runestones adorns her left boot. Topping the ensemble off, a blue-white headcloth with silver ribbon entwined within and without.

"Ab-shalom and greetings, (insert Alexis' full name), and welcome to Vastiva." She gives a formal bow, touching forehead, lips and heart then spreading her hand wide in an offering of some sort. "Did you travel well?" She gives a pause. "If it would not be an imposition, our people will see to your luggage - you have a semiformal to attend this evening to meet our Sultan, and he has directed all candidates be allowed to go somewhere appropriate to pick and choose any other acoutrements they might require. This way, if you will?"


Drayaa is very polite, but she is a bit concerned with something, and will "rush" slightly - this is likely not immediately apparent, but will be so once Alexis gets more Vastivan manners exposure.

From there, to a quick monorail, to the mall with Drayaa and the two guards.

The mall itself is huge (twice the Mall of America), but oddly empty - save for the echoing voices of the Harem girls going bonkers in shopping. Drayaa will lead her into the morass, making light - polite - conversation, and will remain in the area.
Vastiva
13-05-2005, 20:37
An explanation of Engred's behaviour on the way to (and aboard) the bus:

Engred's people don't have a 'Terrorist' problem, because their reaction-set is wrong for terror tactics to work effectively. Janus-Bin-Toto, by using violence to object to Engred's being there (in Vastiva, as a Harem Candidate) just created the opposite reaction to what they'd been angling for- her people, when they become aware of it, will support her, dropping their ill-informed 'moral' objections to her candidacy.

It's a 'bullies' thing-the bully has used force, naturally, the correct cultural response, is to deny the bully even the smallest of victories. This shakes out as public pressure in Cadillac-Gage's media and other areas for Engred to "Keep fighting", and a government/goodwife head-hunt for the perpetrators.

CG's actually tend to emulate (in groups) their National Animal- they don't usually go places, and when threatened, they are more likely to attack, than to retreat, and they don't surrender.

Of course, they're more sensible about how they go about it, than just jumping onto the nearest percieved threat and tearing at it...

Engred's a product of that culture. The terrorists want her to bow out, therefore, she will redouble her efforts to win a spot in the Harem.

She'd have had the vision sooner, (Possibly before the bombing) but the Harem, and much of the Palace itself, are well-insulated from psychic echoes and other mystical phenomena-she wouldn't be aware of it at all had she not gone outside those walls to board the bus.

Physiological reactions are kind of in a direct-proportion to the physicality of the event-the perps weren't present, nobody who was aware of what was happening was present, and most of the passengers died without knowing they'd been killed. Hence, the residues were weak enough she had a bit of vertigo, and the natural 'ill feeling' that comes out of watching innocent people die-but that's it.

Depending on when V wants to release it on the public 'nets (Timeline for the player-characters), Engred knows she has to pretend nothing is wrong-at least, within view of anyone not in the harem or on the Palace staff.

It would, after all, give the bullies entirely too much credit, to let them (or a camera) see her crying.

It will be four to six hours before the Newscasts in Cadillac-Gage pick up the story (0700 is the usual 'start time' for local news there). Given time-differences, this means that the story will break back home sometime in the early evening, after the shopping trip, and slightly before dinner.

The news already has it, so it will be in headlines in the newskiosks and anywhere she looks. (Free Press being what it is) There will also be broadcasts about it on any television she happens to look at now and again.

Reactions of the salespeople - if they figure out who Engred is (likely) - will range from "you poor dear!" to protectivism (grandmotherly), but they'll avoid the topic unless Engred brings it up first. She might hear whispers about it from people, but they're in support of Engred because of this. (Guest manners and all that)
Cadillac-Gage
13-05-2005, 20:56
Offstage-there were a few minor letters protesting Engred's decision to apply to the Harem in the first place, and a couple of small, insignificant demonstrations before the incident. Magritte's going to go over Dr. Suse Randall's head and reveal the Terrorist Threats to the CG media when the story breaks.

I'll work on that later-the "Local" Reaction is going to have to wait until "Dinner is served" to keep timelines straight.

the reaction in Vastiva itself, of course, I think will precede the reaction in Cadillac-Gage, just because it's "daytime" in Vastiva, (meaning the hours during which most people are awake), while it's still "O-dark-thirty" in CG (though, since it's the N. Hemisphere, it's an hour until full sunup.)

Here's what will happen Cadillac-Gage side (and may make the evening news in Vastiva, since the media there is always keen for something new)

1. The announcement-will be handled via press-release jointly filed by the Department of Transportation and the Special Circumstances sub-department. A list of names will be witheld pending the outcome of the crash investigation, but the threats will be revealed (violating the Official Secrets Act).

2. Around 1430 Local time (about ten and a half hours after Engred sensed it) demonstrators will block the main drag in Detrojtja and Todos Santos-demonstrators supporting Engred's candidacy. this will cause a temporary snarl in the construction of the Vastivan embassy in Detrojtja as materials-trucks have to re-route to get around the crowds.

(Okay, if the bomb went off around noon, Vastivan local time, that makes the first demonstrations out in the streets around 2200 hours Vastivan time.)

The turnaround in attitude will probably be newsworthy enough to be in among the 'lead' stories-at least, locally to Cadillac-Gage, though the bombing should attract some kind of Vastivan media attention, and the reaction to it will be 'amusing' (though not for Janus Bin Toto-they probably assumed the CG's would go coward and demand Engred's immediate return...)

Wow, while I was typing this post, you were answering my previous!

It looks like we're on the same sheet of music...
Tanara
14-05-2005, 06:58
Vastiva - you have me falling out of my chair again!

Poor Giap Captain Richelieu.

what was the worst they could do?

He absolutely doesn't have the first clue. The problems that could ensue, should a store have just 'one too few'.
Vastiva
14-05-2005, 06:59
Vastiva - you have me falling out of my chair again!

Poor Giap Captain Richelieu.

He absolutely doesn't have the first clue. The problems that could ensue, should a store have just 'one too few'.

Hee hee hee... He's male, and he's thinking "military... security...." not "Crazed women with unlimited budgets jockeying for position".
Tanara
14-05-2005, 07:12
LOL - though I think that most of the women are relatively uncrazed ( none of them have assaulted a store clerk yet have they? ) and they seem to be all so sensible. Besides they're in a mall, every thing is off the rack - to truly go into conspicuous consumption they need to head to the private designers and their ever so private salons, where they will have things designed 'one off' just for them.

and yes I know I'm giving them ideas for the future but where else do you find clothing so beyond price that as Clancy put it..

"The dress was so casually elegant that Jack knew that it cost more than his entire wardrobe." (Patriot Games, and is speaking of the dress that the Queen wore to the dinner he attended at the Palace )
-Ferris-
14-05-2005, 07:36
Poor Alexis really doesn't know what to do - she's accustomed to living very frugally, and here she is presented with an entire hypermall and someone else's unlimited funds. She's still going to be rather restrained in her buying, though - she hasn't grasped the fact that Sinjin could probably buy a good portion of Ferris.*
Vastiva
14-05-2005, 09:05
"Good Portion" means "All", right? :D
-Ferris-
14-05-2005, 10:32
Weellll ... sorta. Sure, if you had enough money you could theoretically buy all of it, and the nobility would buy themselves a President-for-Life ticket in some blighted third world nation and start all over again, but there are various things (communist rebels, Krismen rebels, Kellmark rebels, eldritch horrors from outside space and time) which would not like you for it. The latter in particular would prove rather disastrous - which is why the Autarchs are so careful to placate the one living in their basement.
Cadillac-Gage
14-05-2005, 10:52
Engred doesn't buy a Lot of stuff, she buys quality stuff. Her entire wardrobe back home would probably fit in the luggage of most of the other candidates without displacing much.

Sooner or later, one of the other girls is going to notice that she didn't 'run with the pack', and come looking.

Engred's "Shopping nose" is tuned for the high-end durable and it looks good, rather than just lacy and expensive.

I fully expect her one outfit's going to cost as much as the output from any two of the other gals, though.... (Labour, Mastercrafter's wages, apprentice wages, materials, and a time-bonus since it's a rush job that must be right.)

Character-clues:

1. Picks the small, family-owned shop with a microscopic clientele that's apparently loyal enough to afford space in the mall. (Nose for quality, insistence on Uniqueness? Check.)

2. Buys one outfit.(Frugality. It may cost the friggin' earth, but she didn't hear "Unlimited budget" and go on a spending spree. Check)

3. Time. Engred's taking her time (what little she has) to get "Just that one thing" rather than random other things that she might have gotten instead. The sum-total of her purchases can be carried in a single garment bag by her self. No need for a cargo-carrier...

4. Values. Engred values small traders and businesses in niche markets over corporate gigantors. She probably buys her snacks at the mom&pop store instead of the "LeSnaque Boutique". As the daughter of her nation's version of a corporate giant, this marks her as having decidedly odd priorities.

Now... what she bought:

The outfit covers her from neck, to ankle, has no see-through portions, yet outlines her curves, enhances her bustline, and is generally "Sexy" without being "obscene". She still retains free-range-of-motion, and she can bare one leg if she so chooses. "Modest" yet immodest as hell.

The kind of dress that makes a man imagine things, that heightens anticipation without giving away anything.

The sort of dress you just-can't-buy at Macy's.
Tanara
14-05-2005, 16:29
Applauds CG wildly. Damn a double threat - you write a hell of a blow 'em up scene and know exactly what some one truly sophisticated would be doing !

I like Engred!
Findhorn
14-05-2005, 18:20
Phew! I hope that's got it all out of my system! Wasn't I good not to go into detail about the shoes?

And, yes, I agree about the blow-'em-up. And doesn't my heart bleed for Guy Smiley.
Tanara
15-05-2005, 01:47
Great big fat crocodile tears, perhaps? Guy is getting just what he so richly deserves...(EFG)
Vastiva
15-05-2005, 04:39
Weellll ... sorta. Sure, if you had enough money you could theoretically buy all of it, and the nobility would buy themselves a President-for-Life ticket in some blighted third world nation and start all over again, but there are various things (communist rebels, Krismen rebels, Kellmark rebels, eldritch horrors from outside space and time) which would not like you for it. The latter in particular would prove rather disastrous - which is why the Autarchs are so careful to placate the one living in their basement.

Buy it... rent it out as a "Funhouse Expedition".... :D
Vastiva
15-05-2005, 08:29
Oh, and "How does the Sultan command such loyalty?" (from Ferris)

It involves cheese, utilities, and Machiavellian proceedures for "distracting the ire of the public".

The Sultan can overturn any court ruling, override taxes or property law, "speed up" any legal tangle, and make most anything work quickly - if he chooses. His programs have been a huge jump from where his predecessor had the country - and he has subtly maintained a "nationalist" policy through subtle legal twists. The press has been made *FREE* - and the Sultan supports several papers and media, even those of "opposing view", without pressure to "direct" a story in any direction. Questioning the policies of the Beys and Pashas has lead, in fact, to Investigations - which are publicized, and no punches are "pulled" for the politicians.

The "immunities" present from his predecessor dried up quickly.

Vastiva is also currently a powerhouse regionally, going from #64 (out of 65) when he took over, to #3. Wealth is pouring into the nation, literally from all over. Due to a rather liberal policy on loans to citizens starting their own businesses (see link above), businesses have exploded all over the place - which has caused greater competition and lower prices to the masses, which is also supported.

In short, the Sultan appears to be winning on all fronts.
Krioval
15-05-2005, 09:17
Admission - I've run aground in terms of Medea's plotline. I originally intended to "release the reins" a bit, since I was posting almost half the time, but I've taken it a bit too far. Where is she right now? Shopping?

Evil Admission - I'm looking to tie this all together with the FoF RP and the terrorist activities. The first Sunday in August is Kriovalian election day, and this year, the first ballot question is "Shall Raijin Dekker be retained as Commander of Krioval for an additional eight years?" Not a huge problem, but if he gets less than 3/4 of the vote, it indicates a lack of strong confidence, and given his recent scandalous behavior...let's just say that being able to claim that Medea's position is the catalyst for opening the Vastivan markets to Krioval and that Raijin was instrumental in getting her there can do wonders.
Vastiva
15-05-2005, 09:22
Well, I was waiting on Shizuka to move a bit, but she hasn't... meh.

Medea and Shizuka are headed to the museum to have a look around - a guided tour. Late in it, Medea should have to decide to go or not (my bet is on "Not" due to time constraints, and why should she want to? And Shizuka "came with her accessories", so to speak).

So I've got a half-done post on the subject. So right now, you're off the hook, Krioval. ;)

I'll have it up tomorrow though - fair warning. :D
Nova Hope
15-05-2005, 17:18
*shakes fist* school…
Cadillac-Gage
16-05-2005, 00:12
"medical reasons"...heh... That boy's never going to be right in the head again.
I used one of the two names you gave me in the Telegramme, V. The other one's not-in-country. Nate Hill won't be comitting any more crimes, even if they turn him loose, Doc Randall's put an 'asimov' in his head. He can't even lie now.
When the actual "Official" interview comes, he'll sing like a canary, and he won't be able to stop himself.
Vastiva
16-05-2005, 00:59
*looks over glasses* I doubt strongly that's the real Nathan Hill, though I''m curious how they convinced him he was/is. Interesting indeed. The two names are of a pair who have survived so long, they're just entering the "momentarilly interesting" level of HSI interest where JbT is concerned.

I'd be fascinated to know they were in Vastivan hands already... curious indeed.

;)

If you wouldn't mind threading more of such to another thread, so as not to clutter the main line? Links are good connections, but I'd like the main thrust to remain the same.
Cadillac-Gage
16-05-2005, 01:16
*looks over glasses* I doubt strongly that's the real Nathan Hill, though I''m curious how they convinced him he was/is. Interesting indeed. The two names are of a pair who have survived so long, they're just entering the "momentarilly interesting" level of HSI interest where JbT is concerned.

I'd be fascinated to know they were in Vastivan hands already... curious indeed.

;)

If you wouldn't mind threading more of such to another thread, so as not to clutter the main line? Links are good connections, but I'd like the main thrust to remain the same.

Right. Vastiva is a nation of over 3 billion people. name-duplication (even to the point of similar personality traits) would be not-too-far-fetched. (i.e. "A" Nathan Hill, possibly recruited sometime in the last six to ten years.)

Depending on possible age-differences, it could even be "Nathan Hill Jr." she's got... or I could just change the name (this would be simplest-it avoids so many other hassles...)

Ahnee-way, I'll slip it to another thread (a 'closed' RP for participants in the 'terrorism' angle) if you haven't set one up yet.

And I'll edit the name. good call.

Here's the "New" thread for handling the Terrorism investigation:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8884792#post8884792
Vastiva
18-05-2005, 08:01
You know, CG, you scare me sometimes... excellent multitasking though.
Vastiva
19-05-2005, 08:34
As technology hates me (lost three set ups, the museum posts - and the history of most in there, and who knows what else when the drive lost its little mind), the last post is going to have to do for now.

Bleh. Paper still can't be read by this thing, so it will take time to recreate.
Cadillac-Gage
19-05-2005, 10:54
As technology hates me (lost three set ups, the museum posts - and the history of most in there, and who knows what else when the drive lost its little mind), the last post is going to have to do for now.

Bleh. Paper still can't be read by this thing, so it will take time to recreate.

Yeouch!!!
Cadillac-Gage
24-05-2005, 20:36
Dammit, Sharon's nagging at me again. With the Harem-action kind of stalled, I guess a little side-trip to the Vastivan Looney-bin might be good filler...
Findhorn
25-05-2005, 02:21
It's a terrific fillier. I'm getting so interested in Sharon's career that I think, in kindness to her fans, you should put her into another RP later.

As for my latest post, well, it's just meant to be tension-building background music. I haven't a clue where we're going collectively or I'm going individually (story of my life, eh?).

The fox-in-the-henhouse reference, BTW, isn't about the Harem at all. It's to do with the fuss she'll create in Findhorn. At best, they'll think she's fallen in love with the Sultan (I heard he had a style/And so I thought I'd stop and listen for a while...). At worst, they'll think Vastivan security has figured out their song-code, taken it amiss and they've endangered Myfanwy (Singing my whole life with his words, killing me softly with his song ...). Which should shut them up.
Cadillac-Gage
25-05-2005, 20:40
The frustrating thing is, Sharon's easier to write than Engred is. I don't have to work very hard to write Sharon.
Weird, huh?
Vastiva
26-05-2005, 08:00
Vastiva isn't reading your letters, so your code is safe.

And she's in a hospital - albeit a military-grade one, so she's not going anywhere. Outside of her room is a hallway, both ends of which are blocked by bulkhead doors. And without tools, she's not going to be able to open the touchlocks there.

Of course, they can order her a nice window and stick it anywhere she wants.... :D
Cadillac-Gage
26-05-2005, 13:23
I'll put the action at Sharon's house on the "Dredging" thread for now, since it's slightly out-of-synch with the "In Harem's Way" thread.

I should have some Engred post ready for this thread when I wake up.
Sarala
26-05-2005, 13:36
I'm interested
Cadillac-Gage
26-05-2005, 21:06
I didn't want to mess with a major player by putting words in her mouth or predicting her reactions. I'll have to wait for Vastiva's response now...
Vastiva
27-05-2005, 05:49
I'm interested

Alright, read this thread and "In Harem's Way", which is in International Incidents. Once your up to speed, figure out a character, and we'll go from there.
Krioval
27-05-2005, 07:34
Question:

Have Medea and Shizuka been brought to the reception/dining room along with all the other candidates already? I don't want to put her there if she hasn't been "transported", and at the same time, I don't want to hold up everything else. Please advise.
Vastiva
27-05-2005, 07:44
Question:

Have Medea and Shizuka been brought to the reception/dining room along with all the other candidates already? I don't want to put her there if she hasn't been "transported", and at the same time, I don't want to hold up everything else. Please advise.

She'd have had time to arrive there, provided she hasn't gone to great lengths in preparation (which she shouldn't, seeing as this is merely lunch). So she can either be there, or walk in.
Krioval
27-05-2005, 07:56
She'd have had time to arrive there, provided she hasn't gone to great lengths in preparation (which she shouldn't, seeing as this is merely lunch). So she can either be there, or walk in.

I'll get her up to speed by tomorrow. Thanks.
Cadillac-Gage
27-05-2005, 12:14
Vastiva, this is good. I think we should leave some of Sharon's problems in-place. the corrective surgery will probably have limits because of the complexity of the organ being repaired, and there's the whole problem of her brain having trained itself to work around an injured sector-she'll still be bipolar, but nowhere near as extreme- I know the tech and the knowledge are there, but Sharon's problems are a bit of a help in scripting her, and I've decided on a definite link between her 'genius' and her instability. A little instability, and she's fantastic, a lot, and she's a basket-case, too little, and she's merely 'average'.

I have a few ideas, maybe some input and whatnot to see if one of them will work for story-purposes:

1. Full Damage correction: Sharon's brain is no longer scarred, but she's going to have to learn to use the restored hemispheric links. This gives us a "Slower" full-recovery that's explainable as dealing with emotional traumas, stuff fixable by good, mundane, therapies. (Noir style Genius. I can't think of a good example here, maybe MacGuyver or Major Carter from SG-1.)

2. Partial Damage Correction: The worst of it was repaired, but some parts were too intertwined with key areas and had to be left alone. This allows us to retain the "Mad Scientist" while getting rid of the "Basket Case".
The advantage here, is that her 'Madness' actually works in her favour-only someone with a couple screws loose would find the kinds of solutions that make her a valuable asset... It also permits an invisible leash situation-she doesn't get her prescriptions, she wigs. This is the "Helen Narbon" option.

3. Successful Surgery, no correction achieved. Just what it says. There are uses here too-but not as many-the main use being a Sharon who's gotten the best treatment available, but it wasn't enough. This version can be used as a plot-device/villain character later. (The "Professor Moriarty" or "Dr. Frankenstien" version)

4. Side-effects. Sharon's sane, she's a paraplegic/quadruplegic/blind/mute/whatever, but she's sane. Useful for a sympathy sponge, or in a locked-room drama storyline. (Professor Xavier, Microchip, or any of a host of crippled sidekick types from comics, movies, etc. etc... another example would be Geordi LaForge)

5. Total Success: this would make her more useful as an NPC 'source', or "Q" character. Sharon, sane with no disorders and full control of her cognition.
("Q" from James Bond movies)

6. GM's Option. I don't have a "6" to put down here. My brain's kind of frazzled from doing out 200 Cabinets in ten hours at work. If I did, we could just roll a six-sider and that would be the option to take...
Vastiva
30-05-2005, 04:54
I was thinking about "A Shattered Mind" when I wrote it.

Now, if you could translate this:

Sharon...

"Te areena hupsu we , I-KIRJAIN osata mikä te haluta. Te kanisteri ei loukkaantunut we anymore!!"

Sharon's drugged ramblings were getting louder. The nurse tried reassuring her again, and she barked out (unknowing)

"I-KIRJAIN Hävittää Te. Te pitäisi harus avulla Ehdottoman..."

She stiffened, then relaxed again.

"Johon on Engred? johon on minun kaveri kas noin?" she murmurred. Forty minutes into the drug-cycle, the sedative's deepest effects seemed to be stripping layers away.

[ooc: I 'Borrowed" an english-Finnish dictionary, it seemed appropriate...]

"Yes, but I don't speak Finnish and my characters do..."
Vastiva
30-05-2005, 04:55
6. GM's Option. I don't have a "6" to put down here. My brain's kind of frazzled from doing out 200 Cabinets in ten hours at work. If I did, we could just roll a six-sider and that would be the option to take...

"Doing out 200 Cabinets".... you're a Congressional Page? :D

Ok, that was very very bad...
Cadillac-Gage
30-05-2005, 05:16
I was thinking about "A Shattered Mind" when I wrote it.

Now, if you could translate this:


"Yes, but I don't speak Finnish and my characters do..."

Apparently the machine-translator doesn't include obscenities.

The first one translates roughly as "You aren't fooling me, you can't hurt me anymore."

The second one translates as "I killed you, go back to the land of the dead"

and the third translates as
"Where is Engred, where is my friend?"

Sharon's right messed-up.
Cadillac-Gage
30-05-2005, 05:18
"Doing out 200 Cabinets".... you're a Congressional Page? :D

Ok, that was very very bad...

Right dreadful, though you might say most Politicos are wooden, and probably deserve to be worked over with a staplegun and hot-glue... :D
Vastiva
30-05-2005, 05:41
Does that cost extra? :D
-Ferris-
30-05-2005, 08:08
Seems a lot of stuff happened while I was off sleeping/learning/eating/whatever. Sorry about that - I try to check the thread daily, but life gets in the way.
The Voltarum
30-05-2005, 14:09
"Doing out 200 Cabinets".... you're a Congressional Page? :D

Ok, that was very very bad...

rofl...

made me laugh lol

Voltarum
Cadillac-Gage
01-06-2005, 11:54
WHERE IS EVERYBODY??!???!??!??

Post!! POST!!! I'm having Withdrawals here!!

I wanna find out what Medea's thinking, what Shizuka's planning, how Alexis is Adjusting!!! WHERE'S ZUKIE???

(um... I may need an intervention, i seem to have a wee problem...)

Come on guys, I get like two hours a night I'm not working or handling my lady's honeydo list. (sniff) I miss you guys...
The Voltarum
01-06-2005, 21:53
*slight cough*

I'm here, heh. Unfortunatly, I don't have much to say until the big dinner with the Sultan =)

btw, a warning, just in case - I will be out of touch from fri morning to sunday night. Don't blow up the Palace... errr, I mean, don't have fun... err, I mean don't do anythign too stupid while I'm gone =)
Vastiva
02-06-2005, 03:59
WHERE IS EVERYBODY??!???!??!??

Post!! POST!!! I'm having Withdrawals here!!

I wanna find out what Medea's thinking, what Shizuka's planning, how Alexis is Adjusting!!! WHERE'S ZUKIE???

(um... I may need an intervention, i seem to have a wee problem...)

Come on guys, I get like two hours a night I'm not working or handling my lady's honeydo list. (sniff) I miss you guys...

You know their names - you can send telegrams and check on their nations...
Findhorn
03-06-2005, 03:28
You know their names...

Is this the equivalent of, "We know where you live ..."? (Hastily burns all incriminating material.)
Vastiva
03-06-2005, 06:17
Is this the equivalent of, "We know where you live ..."? (Hastily burns all incriminating material.)

No, it's a "I'm not the only one with access to telegrams".
-Ferris-
04-06-2005, 12:10
Apologies for not being visible - my brain has been fried all week, and now it's the weekend I find I'm not certain of how to reply.
Vastiva
06-06-2005, 09:15
Play it by ear. Works well. :)

***

Medea and Engred could use the M-TCOD to find out there is a surgery scheduled for someone with Sharon's name - but there are no details at Medea's level of access (which has been "downgraded" to Blue. So all the lettering is now in blue instead of purple, unless she customizes). It's user friendly, but as far as the public net is concerned, Sharon doesn't exist.

There is mention of the submarine transfer of "one subject for questioning from Cadillac-Gage", but no name given.

You could find out more from the one who was with her on the submarine, who is mentioned by name - Alexis. (Methinks it's -Ferris-... I could be wrong, its late here).
Findhorn
11-06-2005, 17:34
Awww, Vas ... whine, whine, whine. We're just filling in dead air time here until the revelry starts. Okay, I can see you're busy with other stuff ... how would it be if Nasheed helpfully tuned in a live telecast of the (NS) Band Aid bash? Starting right now, before anyone's even begun to play, so us girls could try to spot our favourites and swoon, in a ladylike way, all over the Harem?
Vastiva
12-06-2005, 03:38
Last bit of "filler", promise.

And points to you for figuring out some of the gaping holes.

The other points go to Voltarum for another set of gaping holes.

The rest - no points for you!


Oh, yes, the invited dignitary was Raijin, but his invitation wasn't returned. Neither has the messenger. How odd... *subtle needle*
Zatarack
12-06-2005, 19:48
And I'm waiting...
Vastiva
18-06-2005, 09:13
Awww, Vas ... whine, whine, whine. We're just filling in dead air time here until the revelry starts. Okay, I can see you're busy with other stuff ... how would it be if Nasheed helpfully tuned in a live telecast of the (NS) Band Aid bash? Starting right now, before anyone's even begun to play, so us girls could try to spot our favourites and swoon, in a ladylike way, all over the Harem?

Go for it.

Lack of long posts due greatly to straining out a tendon while at work, so my right arm moves slowly right now. The painkillers, on the other hand, aren't half bad... :D

The full party will be in swing by Tuesday, latest, depending on RL.
Findhorn
18-06-2005, 12:31
OK. The Band Aid thread is here (/http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424316) if anyone wants to enthuse over a particular band.

Dibs on the Foresters (sp?).

Edit later: Forresters. And here's a list of the other bands (post No.150, p10 in that thread):

Bad Air (Freudotopia)
Hollywood Guns (McKagan)
Spooty Tab (Spooty)
Flying Lemurs (Manineiacs)
PEval (Palixia)
Emerald Sword (HailandKill)
the Squishimilatiors (Basque Spain)
The Forresters (Brydog)
Kiss My Ass (Responsibilites)
Coven Guard (Vastiva)
Mickey Mantle Late Nite Movie (Havl)
Embrace (The Three United Isles)
Broken Tusks (The Charr)
FTE(Aust)
The Prowlin' Bandits (Little Prussia)
Blue Coral (Taldaan)
The Screamin' Blood Euphons (Oglethorpia)

One more band

And it's called Band Aid (Huge Freaking Concert for Peace) in International Incidents.
Vastiva
19-06-2005, 06:08
Yes, it's a Vastivan band. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9093032&postcount=220) Rather popular currently, and on international tour.

Then again, Billy and the Boingers is a regional favorite, and is on tour in Antarctica when it isn't routing polar bears.... :p
Cadillac-Gage
19-06-2005, 09:33
OK. The Band Aid thread is here (/http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424316) if anyone wants to enthuse over a particular band.

Dibs on the Foresters (sp?).

Edit later: Forresters. And here's a list of the other bands (post No.150, p10 in that thread):

Bad Air (Freudotopia)
Hollywood Guns (McKagan)
Spooty Tab (Spooty)
Flying Lemurs (Manineiacs)
PEval (Palixia)
Emerald Sword (HailandKill)
the Squishimilatiors (Basque Spain)
The Forresters (Brydog)
Kiss My Ass (Responsibilites)
Coven Guard (Vastiva)
Mickey Mantle Late Nite Movie (Havl)
Embrace (The Three United Isles)
Broken Tusks (The Charr)
FTE(Aust)
The Prowlin' Bandits (Little Prussia)
Blue Coral (Taldaan)
The Screamin' Blood Euphons (Oglethorpia)

One more band

And it's called Band Aid (Huge Freaking Concert for Peace) in International Incidents.

Eh, a two-hour concert... that leaves room for maybe one or two songs apiece.
Now I remember why I didn't join that thread.
Vastiva
19-06-2005, 09:35
OOC: Two hours my great aunt Gertrude. And speaking of threads, when are we going to see if the bridge blows up?

And before you retort, I'm working on the ball - have to paint tomorrow, had a brother-in-law drop dead of a heart attack, spent a day in the hospital... its been a touch busy.
Vastiva
19-06-2005, 09:59
This'll be good... it's the part where Sharon learns she's not only in a military base, but just over twenty kilometers underground... and the hospital and everyone else already knows she's a "MacGuyver" and have planned accordingly...

*chomps on popcorn*
Cadillac-Gage
19-06-2005, 20:09
OOC: Two hours my great aunt Gertrude. And speaking of threads, when are we going to see if the bridge blows up?

And before you retort, I'm working on the ball - have to paint tomorrow, had a brother-in-law drop dead of a heart attack, spent a day in the hospital... its been a touch busy.

1. soon.

2. Condolences on your family's loss.:(
Cadillac-Gage
19-06-2005, 20:16
This'll be good... it's the part where Sharon learns she's not only in a military base, but just over twenty kilometers underground... and the hospital and everyone else already knows she's a "MacGuyver" and have planned accordingly...

*chomps on popcorn*

hoo boy. Now I have to actually perform... I should have something up later today or tonight (local time).

I've had some good news (of a sort, maybe...) my recall-rights at Boeing were extended to 2008 by the new contract. they haven't bothered to actually Recall me yet, but I'm not "expired" anymore...though I did lose one of my two job-recall catagories (the better one, at that. :rolleyes: ), so maybe before the end of the decade I'll be back to making over-twenty an hour...
If, that is, I don't get the Kimberly-Clark job I'm interviewing for tomorrow morning. If I get that, I won't be going back to Aviation, too "Fluid" to make a living at anymore.
Zatarack
20-06-2005, 06:55
How long have I been waiting?
Vastiva
20-06-2005, 08:29
hoo boy. Now I have to actually perform... I should have something up later today or tonight (local time).

I've had some good news (of a sort, maybe...) my recall-rights at Boeing were extended to 2008 by the new contract. they haven't bothered to actually Recall me yet, but I'm not "expired" anymore...though I did lose one of my two job-recall catagories (the better one, at that. :rolleyes: ), so maybe before the end of the decade I'll be back to making over-twenty an hour...
If, that is, I don't get the Kimberly-Clark job I'm interviewing for tomorrow morning. If I get that, I won't be going back to Aviation, too "Fluid" to make a living at anymore.

... I suppose in English that means "not fired, might get better job". Congrats?
Vastiva
20-06-2005, 08:34
How long have I been waiting?

I don't know - are you caught up on the thread yet?
Cadillac-Gage
20-06-2005, 21:05
... I suppose in English that means "not fired, might get better job". Congrats?
Competition's stiff for the KC job-but I think I nailed it in spite of a 0800 interview that required me to get up at 0600 to get ready, and a lack of smokes that had me a bit on-edge.
I should know in two weeks if it's "Congratulations"-they're doing interviews in batches, and I was in the first batch.
Zatarack
22-06-2005, 01:55
I don't know - are you caught up on the thread yet?

A breifing wouldn't hurt. And when will you greet the person from my antion?
Vastiva
22-06-2005, 07:38
A breifing wouldn't hurt. And when will you greet the person from my antion?

A briefing? Well, briefest...

The Grand Vizier planned to reopen the harem while the Sultan was away. This ballooned out of control owing to certain other actions. Enroute, an attempt was made to kill a candidate for the harem - this ultimately resulted in the same terrorist group getting a hold on Cadillac-Gage.

While in the harem, another attempt was made, this to exclude some other candidates who were "dangers" to the insurrection. It did not succeed (though may have subtly succeeded as the targets aren't posting anymore).
The harem members are being given a soiree tonight to meet the Sultan, officially, and most of the "upper crust" of Vastiva.

I'd post it, but I'm duelling food poisoning (again! Bleh! and I did it to myself this time!) and having painted a ceiling today, my arms are falling off.

Hows that, and who is your candidate?
Findhorn
22-06-2005, 09:51
Hey, Vastiva, I'm really sorry for your family loss and the other problems that have been crowding in on you.

So I'm not whining much, just ... Dammit, what's a nine-year-old doing serving in the Hareem? I thought Vastiva had compulsory primary education? The poor kid's gonna be too worn out to study, running around after all these demanding females! *Thumbs madly through Vastivan legal references, seeking child labour laws*.

Okay, so Nasheed's nine, which is about eight to 10 years younger than I assumed. (I thought she'd be old enough to be a student working part-time, or, more likely, doing her national service somewhere other than the army.) Duly noted. Of course, she wouldn't be the first nine-year-old whose innocent chatter had ... implications ... for the adults. Still, that explains why she got so upset over the minor gaffe with the computer.

Ah, well, at least I've wrung a smidgin of info out of you (damn you for a close-mouthed writer!)
Vastiva
23-06-2005, 07:39
Hey, Vastiva, I'm really sorry for your family loss and the other problems that have been crowding in on you.

So I'm not whining much, just ... Dammit, what's a nine-year-old doing serving in the Hareem? I thought Vastiva had compulsory primary education? The poor kid's gonna be too worn out to study, running around after all these demanding females! *Thumbs madly through Vastivan legal references, seeking child labour laws*.

Okay, so Nasheed's nine, which is about eight to 10 years younger than I assumed. (I thought she'd be old enough to be a student working part-time, or, more likely, doing her national service somewhere other than the army.) Duly noted. Of course, she wouldn't be the first nine-year-old whose innocent chatter had ... implications ... for the adults. Still, that explains why she got so upset over the minor gaffe with the computer.

Ah, well, at least I've wrung a smidgin of info out of you (damn you for a close-mouthed writer!)

Without giving away waaaaay too much information...



:D




*duly notes you're the first to ask about this....*

Child Labor Laws:

Description: GIVEN that many nation states see fit to employ children under age 12 in manual labor and industry,

GIVEN that these industries and labor are often highly detrimental to a child's body and health,

BELIEVING that it is a fundamental right to be given the chance to grow up educated and free from unneccesary disease, injury, and possible death from industrial work,

ASSERTING that it is immoral and atrocious to force children , by manipulation, authority or raw strength, to work for corporation or state,

Be it hereby resolved that the UN shall guarantee the rights of children to NOT work in any mines, factories, chemical plants or ANY OTHER industrial occupation; moreover, it shall be prohibited for a child to take up labor in such an occupation.


However, they're not "working" per se, so even this really doesn't apply, any more then having a child do chores is "child labor".

If Nova was around, I'm rather sure he could give you an earfull on Vastiva and the Sultan's household...
Krioval
23-06-2005, 07:48
I think I need a way to write Medea back into this - it's interesting, but I really haven't had the time to read the entire NSWiki on Vastiva just yet, and there's not so much else to discuss at the "big party". Never mind that Medea has the terrible combination of brutal honesty and a hair trigger.

That said, I'll be more "off" than "on" the next few days - my sister graduates from high school Friday (officially), so I'll be flying home tomorrow for it. I'll be back on Tuesday. My goal is that nobody really notices (other than this announcement) that I've gone. :D

Hope the food poisoning clears up!
Vastiva
23-06-2005, 08:08
Problem with the NSWiki is it's outdated, though still a decent history. It's one of those "I keep meaning to update it..." things.

Good Luck, Good Trip, and Safe Return.
Vastiva
23-06-2005, 08:53
Entrance decorated somewhat - you can assume all the members of the council are there, along with most of the "must invites" of a nation. Bewilder will work if you like, feel free to ask anything here or in TG (if the box doesn't explode), and I'll fill in details as necessary.
-Ferris-
23-06-2005, 10:08
'Tis the final week of the semester, so my workload is pretty darn big, but I intend to get a post out in a day or two, when it's over.
The Voltarum
23-06-2005, 15:18
hey Vast -

One, I assume Guy is there with Goldie. If not let me know. Also, i did write that he slid a very small camera in his pocket at Goldie's ... was it confiscated when he entered the room? We are talking high end pocket-spy size here.
Cadillac-Gage
23-06-2005, 19:48
Just for background, the story of Sirgaard is a Cager piece of legendry. He's kind of like a cross between William Tell, Beowulf, and King Arthur for them. In the Legend Engred's thinking of, Sirgaard was summoned to the King of Phlynt's palace to celebrate his victory over the Monster Jrakt. While at the banquet, Sirgaard offended one of the King's Dukes by pointing out that 'worthy' as being in league with the Jrakt. Their conspiracy uncovered, Sirgaard had to fight a hundered duels in a single evening to prevent the coup that was to be launched by the Nobles.
While bleeding from his earlier battle against the Jrakt.
In the legends, Sirgaard was a blacksmith by trade, and his appearance at the King's court was that of a Blacksmith in middle-class clothes, surrounded by fat nobles in their glittering cloth-of-silk-and-gold.

The Sirgaard stories reflect the Cager disdain for ostentation as much as their worship of legendary heroes. Sirgaard never (according to tales) displayed the wealth from his many adventures, and according to legend, always lived in a small cottage rather than a palace-even after becoming Lord Sirgaard in the last chapters of the stories.

Sirgaard Detrojtja founded the City of Detrojtja as a Craft-market sometime in the Dark Ages. One of the oddest things about the Sirgaard stories, is that they warn against relying on Castles, and state that "The people are the Fortress, not the stones."

Military Historians and researchers have examined the common points between the various versions of Sirgaard Detrojtja stories, and found that the descriptions fit with "Common Sense" military doctrines, particularly the emphasis on training and discipline over fortresses and weapons. (Sirgaard slew the Jrakt with a smith's hammer after peppering it with peasant-arrows. it is believed that Sirgaard's tale actually reflects the actions of a great many different people during the period between 100 A.D. and 750 A.D.)

Oddities of Sirgaard's tales:

Sirgaard rode a mule, not a horse, into his adventures (when he rode at all. Most stories depict him as walking, and leading his mule)

Sirgaard was unfailingly polite, but refused to bow down to any of the kings, nobles, and potentates he encountered.

Sirgaard was often forced to continue his adventures because his efforts amused the gods-as did his suffering.

Most of the human villains in the Sirgaard stories cover themselves in jewels and expensive finery, and have long titles that break down into "His granddaddy did something heroic and he's living off that reputation".
Even after being proclaimed "Lord", Sirgaard was always "Sirgaard".
Zatarack
24-06-2005, 00:24
A briefing? Well, briefest...

The Grand Vizier planned to reopen the harem while the Sultan was away. This ballooned out of control owing to certain other actions. Enroute, an attempt was made to kill a candidate for the harem - this ultimately resulted in the same terrorist group getting a hold on Cadillac-Gage.

While in the harem, another attempt was made, this to exclude some other candidates who were "dangers" to the insurrection. It did not succeed (though may have subtly succeeded as the targets aren't posting anymore).
The harem members are being given a soiree tonight to meet the Sultan, officially, and most of the "upper crust" of Vastiva.

I'd post it, but I'm duelling food poisoning (again! Bleh! and I did it to myself this time!) and having painted a ceiling today, my arms are falling off.

Hows that, and who is your candidate?

Still waiting
The Voltarum
24-06-2005, 01:51
Still waiting

somehow I think, with that attitude, you are not encouraging him to hurry in his response.
Zatarack
24-06-2005, 02:08
Oh, who

Let me see, I posted the name somewhere...Vivian Vagqu
Vastiva
24-06-2005, 06:08
hey Vast -

One, I assume Guy is there with Goldie. If not let me know. Also, i did write that he slid a very small camera in his pocket at Goldie's ... was it confiscated when he entered the room? We are talking high end pocket-spy size here.

Considering Goldie's clout and desire to make an entrance, camera would be intact. Cameraman might not be later - how are you fixed for 'excessive overindulgence'? :D
Vastiva
24-06-2005, 06:15
Oh, who

Let me see, I posted the name somewhere...Vivian Vagqu

Alright, so you're waiting for what - an entrance? A greeting letter? How do you want to be introduced into this, at the ball or somewhat later?
The Voltarum
24-06-2005, 15:28
Considering Goldie's clout and desire to make an entrance, camera would be intact. Cameraman might not be later - how are you fixed for 'excessive overindulgence'? :D

Hrm... must have missed that Al was coming... or i forgot lol... and I am not sure what you mean by that last sentence... although the smiley scares me =)

Will post an entrance when i get home later today.