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Alright, I'm sorry I didn't start this earlier, but it looks like we need to have one to keep all those OOC's out of the RP thread. Anyways, this thread will be used to post your Questions, Opinions and pretty much anything else you need to bitch about.

BTW Vilita and Somalialand you might think about making this your "homepage" during WC18 :)

*slaps Vilita for all the one liners*

*slaps Somalialand for inciting Vilita*

*slaps TnUI for old-times sake*

*slaps Audioslavia, just to get in the swing of things*

Vilita wonders why this thread has anything to do with him, at all, as he's not made a single post yet this cup, bar a tag in each of the three known threads.

Oh, so "pissed" is Vilitan for "tag". OK. I spent hours trying to figure that one out. ;)

(Of course, there's no need to post tags anyway since you can just subscribe to the thread. Though if you're posting anyway, like I am now, that'll work too. ;))

(Of course, there's no need to post tags anyway since you can just subscribe to the thread.)
*tag*

Ok, can the host post when the games will start and all the first games, meaning who will go against who in the first games

The competition will begin on Saturday. Groups will be released tomorrow.

Thanks for the fast action

::WC18 Qualifying Schedule::
MD01: 1v8 - 2v7 - 3v6 - 4v5
MD02: 3v1 - 8v2 - 7v4 - 6v5
MD03: 1v5 - 2v4 - 3v8 - 6v7
MD04: 7v1 - 6v2 - 5v3 - 8v4
MD05: 1v2 - 3v7 - 4v6 - 5v8
MD06: 4v1 - 3v2 - 7v5 - 8v6
MD07: 1v6 - 2v5 - 3v4 - 7v8

MD08: 8v1 - 7v2 - 6v3 - 5v4
MD09: 1v3 - 2v8 - 4v7 - 5v6
MD10: 5v1 - 4v2 - 8v3 - 7v6
MD11: 1v7 - 2v6 - 3v5 - 4v8
MD12: 2v1 - 7v3 - 6v4 - 8v5
MD13: 1v4 - 2v3 - 5v7 - 6v8
MD14: 6v1 - 5v2 - 4v3 - 8v7

I know this are the Schedule But why do we have 2 sets of schedule

Is it Home and Away or Something else

On yeah when I read this quate i could not Understand the ovarall Idea:

And for the record, there is a counter to "Spaaming" -- over a certain point, the bonus maxes out. And also note that the bonus will not be per post, but rather per matchday, so after an "über"-length post (I'm not giving details here to prevent abuse of the system) is made, one can't circumvent the limits by just making another post that same day.

especially the Bold part, And the Most Confusing Part was the blue Part

Somalialand, the 'second' schedule is the same as the first, only the Home/Away teams are reversed.

The Home team is to the left of the 'v', the Away team is to the right.

So '1v8' means #1 is at home to #8 on Matchday(MD) 1, on Matchday 7, Team 8 is at Home and hosts Team 1.

As for the RP-bonus, you can only gain a certain amount of points per matchday. After posting a fantastic RP for Matchday 1, you can't increase your bonus much more by posting another fantastic RP on the same day.

Somalialand: You sound like Vilita when he first entered the cup. Don't expect to come close at all to qualifying, and seriously: to win the group would require a miracle on Lykaian BS level, which ahs only happened once in 18 cups. Those odds don't look good.

Vilita: Bring it on :p

Somalialand: You sound like Vilita when he first entered the cup. Don't expect to come close at all to qualifying, and seriously: to win the group would require a miracle on Lykaian BS level, which ahs only happened once in 18 cups. Those odds don't look good.

Vilita: Bring it on :p

Funny how this whole thing is coming full circle :) :) :) :)


I can swear now that we will not attempt to provoke the Vilitans, so they can concentrate their efforts on the Africans if they so wish."

LMao

OOC1: CS, you seem to like Yashin (or you know who he really was) so i've put him on the team again. Hope you remain scoreless in Tadjikistan :D

to Tadjikistan's OOC in the RP thread (because Eauz doesn't like evil capitalists replying to OOCs in the RP thread): Aye, I know who Lev Yashin was...probably the best goalkeeper ever. Seems appropriate that he should live on...haven't checked the roster thread yet, how old is he? Forty-five?

I for one would LOVE to know how some people have access to their world rankings when the official rankings are STILL not available.

I'd at least like to know what my ranking is and what the rankings are among teams in Group 8.

LMao

I'm not too good with these - what does this mean?

and why does he always defend vilita like he sucks vilita every day

For the record, LE has never defended me before in history, until you came a long. But I still dont like him. We were talking about how I wished he were drawn into the group then I would have all my arch rivals

I'm not too good with these - what does this mean?

Little Maserrat Always Ovulating.



OOC: Sorry first O that popped to mind

Originally Posted by SOMALIALAND
Ladies called Margaret must be praised at all times
Or exiled from the pitch/stadium/nation/plane of existence. Whichever is easier and most appropriate at the time.

I have never said that, what a joke, and please stop bringing this kind of things into the rb field, try it on the discussion field

::gasps:: The Rb Field! What a concept!

Guess you should try and follow your own advice, as I'm quoting you from the RP thread.

::gasps:: The Rb Field! What a concept!

Guess you should try and follow your own advice, as I'm quoting you from the RP thread.


No need for those stupid comments OK

IF you have a problem with one another, please do one of the following -

1. Skillfully weave your barbs at each other into interesting RPs.

- or -

2. Take the argument somewhere else unless it's directly related to World Cup Football.

:cool:

IF you have a problem with one another, please do one of the following -

1. Skillfully weave your barbs at each other into interesting RPs.

- or -

2. Take the argument somewhere else unless it's directly related to World Cup Football.

:cool:


Eactly, SO lets stop this crap, ok

Eactly, SO lets stop this crap, okThat goes for you too.

IF you have a problem with one another, please do one of the following -

1. Skillfully weave your barbs at each other into interesting RPs.

- or -

2. Take the argument somewhere else unless it's directly related to World Cup Football.

:cool:

I did with My RP, I was defending you when he OOC'd you in the RP thread :)

That happend, this happend, .........

I dont care about what happend, I just want to end this stupid arguments and start a healthy respect for each other in the OCC mode and you can say whatever you want in the IC mode

That happend, this happend, .........

I dont care about what happend, I just want to end this stupid arguments and start a healthy respect for each other in the OCC mode and you can say whatever you want in the IC mode

You want "healthy" respect then talk to me off the forums :P

Ok, i will TG you, May be we can start a political reletions and economic reletions as two of a kind

I for one would LOVE to know how some people have access to their world rankings when the official rankings are STILL not available.

I'd at least like to know what my ranking is and what the rankings are among teams in Group 8.

The rankings being quoted by some participants are not yet official (and I would've preferred that they had not been posted, but since it's happened I'll let it go). They were obtained by contacting me on IRC, where I opened up the spreadsheet and produced the numbers.

That said, you also have a right to know what's going on. Before I do this, let me again state that these rankings are not official. The rankings will not be official until the Cup of Harmony is completed, which will hopefully be tomorrow (at least I really hope so, because I've been planning to start this Cup tomorrow from the beginning). They are close enough to the final rankings, though, that it was feasible to use them for the group draw.

So here are the UNOFFICIAL rankings for Group 8:

Rejistania (1)
Commerce Heights (15)
Lovisa (30)
Sarzonia (35)
Northbank (62)
Liechtenistan (77)
Spalatium (115)
Legalese (121)

Official rankings for all nations will be posted as soon as they are available. I'm sorry, but the speed of this process is beyond my (and Eauz's) control.

and I would've preferred that they had not been posted

The people love their rankings, I remember when I didn't want to give them the WC11 rankings till WC11 was over, they complained everyday. *sigh*

Originally Posted by STARBLAYDIA
Ladies called Margaret must be praised at all times
Or exiled from the pitch/stadium/nation/plane of existence. Whichever is easier and most appropriate at the time.

That was me what posted that. SN38 can't c'n'p to save his life, or did it on purpose. :0

will all of you shut up and play nice?

sheesh.

When a certain someone stops thinking he'll win the cup on his first try.

The people love their rankings, I remember when I didn't want to give them the WC11 rankings till WC11 was over, they complained everyday. *sigh*I don't have a problem with when the ratings come out, but I had a problem with people posting their ranks when other people were in the dark about it. It made it seem that people like Starblaydia were flaunting the fact they got their ranks while others didn't. THAT's what upset me more than the ratings taking a long time.

Now I know I most likely have the top-ranked team in the world in my group. And the 15th. :mad:

I wonder if you are the same people, tAgging on me, i do not like him either, i wish he wwould have stop his hedious bashing and start that sprit of sportsmanship,

ooc: the guy sucks, he is a dump a** and who the hell does he think he is?

A champion professor, who should teach lessons to new members

you are lucky LE, because if i was with you i would have blown your head off, with one of this :sniper: and then another one :sniper:

and then sit back and relax :)
Somalialand: Official Warning - Threateaning another Player

Any further violations will result in a forumban.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

Iam Truly 100% Sorry,

I Was Trying To Make It Seem That I Was Annoyed With Him Thats Is All,

Iam Quit Sorrry If It Created This Kind Of Roar And Also Wanted To Thank The Moderator For Taking The Team To Look At The Issue,

It Was My Bad, I Know I Should Threatned A Player In The Forum But I Was Not Threatning Anyone, What Do You Think, I Was Gooing To Blow His Head Off!

Iam Just Sorry That Is All

I don't have a problem with when the ratings come out, but I had a problem with people posting their ranks when other people were in the dark about it. It made it seem that people like Starblaydia were flaunting the fact they got their ranks while others didn't. THAT's what upset me more than the ratings taking a long time.

Hell, I just asked Bedi on IRC and he told me, as it helped my RP to show what the make-up of my group was like. Sorry for taking some initiative.


And flaunting? This Hat, T-shirt, jacket and shoes that I'm wearing says 21 beacuse... Um... er...

*tries to think of an excuse but fails*

Twenty-first in the world, baby! I am teh Romania of NS!!1! (without the coked-up striker who won't play for his club ever again, of course ;) )

That was me what posted that. SN38 can't c'n'p to save his life, or did it on purpose. :0

...crap...

Apologies all around from me.

Here I was trying to be nice to whoever stuck in that Margaret thing (STARBLAYDIA it would appear) and instead I caused trouble.

We don't need no stinking trouble.

Again - sorry.

About the cut and paste (actually took me several minutes to figure out what the heck "c'n'p" meant) - I hadda bring that over, and then I hadda do the "quoty" thing, and I screwed it up. My head is filled with technology older than most of you - yesterday's not leaving enough room for today.

Somalialand - I'm sorry to have caused you any trouble. For the record, I'm getting it - you're trying to create a rivalry. Suggestion - more RP-ish, and less RL-ish.

Let me leave you with 3 points:

1. SORRY
2. Starblaydia - I like your use of Margaret
3. The only thing worse than getting old is not getting old.

Little Maserrat Always Ovulating.

OOC: Sorry first O that popped to mind

That's alright, I'm not really bothered. I'm just glad to finally be able to use this thing again. Besides, I think we should join forces against Somalialand. I think I'd be happier beating them than you now (OMG, did I just say that ;)).

Somalialand 0-4 Vilita (if the Africans spent as much time training up as they do slagging off everybody, they'd be one of the best in the world by now)

Maserrat, I have refreined from those kind of stuff, iam no longer intrested in bashing anyone, you can choose to be like me and withhold from bashing anyone in the OOC mode, you can say anything you want about me but you should know that from reading my recent posts's
If anyone did not see it here is it again:

IAM NOLONGER INTRESTED IN BASHING OR ACCUSING SOMEONE IN THE OCC MODE, THAT WAS IT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

And yeah, when are those scores coming Bedistan or Euaz, we know its today but when

And yeah, when are those scores coming Bedistan or Euaz, we know its today but whenBe patient. They will be here when they are here. No sooner, no later, and no amount of asking, poking, prodding, requesting, or other forms of supplication will speed it up.

There's an old saying that goes something like this.

Never try to teach tricks to a pig. It'll frustrate you no end, and annoys the pig.

Never try to teach tricks to a pig. It'll frustrate you no end, and annoys the pig.

MAy be we need to listen, thanks for that education packed theory, lets wait and see what the future holds for somalialand

Just for the record, Somalialand, (and this has absolutely nothing to do with anything that has happened so far), I would just like to comment on someting you said in one of your RPs (or RBs, apparently):


After hell bashing from compatitors who seem they have forgotten the new rules enacted by the hostin team, It does not matter if you played before, you are only allowed one Rbing post in the rb place on the matdch day, and if its uber good you will win, that is if mine is slain...


Now, I don't know how good your knowledge of the German language is, and I may even be construing this completely wrong (if so I apologise now), but the word uber can be translated as over. I am therefore assuming that an RP with the rating uber can also be described as OTT - too long, too boring and completely pointless. This rating is NOT good as far as I can make out, and the trick to a good RP is getting something between Average and Uber. Just to let you know...:)

Just for the record, Somalialand, (and this has absolutely nothing to do with anything that has happened so far), I would just like to comment on someting you said in one of your RPs (or RBs, apparently):



Now, I don't know how good your knowledge of the German language is, and I may even be construing this completely wrong (if so I apologise now), but the word uber can be translated as over. I am therefore assuming that an RP with the rating uber can also be described as OTT - too long, too boring and completely pointless. This rating is NOT good as far as I can make out, and the trick to a good RP is getting something between Average and Uber. Just to let you know...:)


I really dont know what the word means, i just seen in the beging of the RP thread and it was the highest ranking for a good RP, personally i do not have an idea of what it means

He was actually complementing you on the quality of your RP's. However, if you post ONE MORE TIME on the RP thread like this, I will be submitting a formal appeal to the WCC to have you removed from the tournament. You have been told to stop already and the Discussion thread was created FOR YOU. USE IT OR GET OUT.

WE know that part but why did he say that, that was the quastion,

And yeah, can you see me telling him please write back in the discussion thread, iam trying to be calm here Turori , iam always came until iam told something like that

it does not seem harsh or whatever, but you have completely ignored the positive and accused on the bassis of the negeative

Firstly, about the RP bonus: Multiple posts on a given day will count, but they will all be combined together for bonus purposes.

Secondly, here are the OFFICIAL rankings that will be used for World Cup XVIII.

Rnk Team KPB pts
001 Rejistania 63.10
002 Bedistan 50.42
003 Total n Utter Insanity 45.40
004 Eauz 44.94
005 The Eagle's Nest 42.25
006 Audioslavia 41.83
007 Vilita 39.52
008 NEWI Cefn Druids 38.11
009 Europa Brittania 37.73
010 Svecia 37.69
011 Iansisle 36.22
012 Liverpool England 36.06
013 Melmond 35.98
014 Kingsford 35.40
015 Commerce Heights 35.14
016 Squornshelous 34.68
017 Kaze Progressa 34.33
018 Dance 2 Revolution 31.59
019 Cockbill Street 30.90
020 Spaam 30.75
021 Starblaydia 30.60
022 The Lowland Clans 29.85
023 Raptor Claw 29.15
024 Crystilakere 28.56
025 Krytenia 27.34
026 One Red Dot 26.54
027 Aquiliana 25.71
028 Lemmitania 25.11
029 Turori 24.88
030 Lovisa 24.30
031 Tanah Burung 23.58
032 Dennisov 21.23
033 EL CID THE HERO 20.99
034 Tadjikistan 20.85
035 Sarzonia 19.32
036 Oaker 19.09
037 Oglethorpia 18.94
038 Gesamtkuntswerk 18.85
039 Jeruselem 18.84
040 Kerla 18.42
041 Lykaia 17.12
042 Halfassedstates 16.83
043 Wella 16.83
044 The Weegies 15.93
045 The Belmore Family 15.54
046 Snub Nose 38 15.42
047 NASTIC 2 11.94
048 Eystrck 11.39
049 Magnus Valerius 11.31
050 Oddslavo 11.27
051 Kylaai 10.43
052 The Evil Umpire 10.33
053 Ineptia 9.13
054 Haperd 8.87
055 Avenging Altos 8.59
056 Nikea 8.59
057 Spurland 7.88
058 Dead Man 6.57
059 Ebon Hawk 6.43
060 Slaikau 6.39
061 Esth 6.38
062 Northbank 6.09
063 Big Pimento 5.93
064 Oceaice 5.73
065 The Gulf States 5.59
066 Pedriana 5.06
067 Larkinia 4.80
068 Maserrat 4.70
069 Carthage and Troy 4.50
070 Isles of Wohlstand 4.43
071 Artoonia 4.40
072 Insane Inflation 4.36
073 Omniworld 4.21
074 Qia 4.03
075 The Redavic Union 3.94
076 Ravenspire 3.80
077 Tasty Toast 3.03
078 Liechtenistan 2.92
079 Regia Anglorum 2.29
080 Adrasuvare 2.23
081 HypercapitaliZm 2.20
082 Kipto-Mare 2.04
083 Bluesonia 2.00
083 Nova Brittanicus 2.00
085 Smoking Pits 1.83
086 Castillanos 1.67
087 Fmjphoenix 1.50
088 Intelligent Madness 1.44
089 Anitram 1.40
090 Lallania 1.22
091 Taokoualu 1.20
092 Grays Harbor 1.17
092 The Latin Union 1.17
094 Wapahkoneta 1.14
095 Balti Pie 1.00
095 Flexsys Cefn Druids 1.00
095 Hazlia 1.00
095 Myrulesia 1.00
099 Resistencia 0.89
100 Morriganavia 0.83
100 Rukbat al Rami 0.83
102 Cirdanistan 0.80
102 West Pacific 0.80
102 Zangara 0.80
105 Foggymushmush 0.78
105 Munsen 0.78
105 Rampagonia 0.78
108 Wizardman 0.71
109 Druida 0.67
109 Maldunia 0.67
111 Loonyvania 0.60
112 Allsio 0.50
112 Daekerius 0.50
112 Eskrador 0.50
115 Terenia 0.40
116 Finrods 0.33
116 Spalatium 0.33
118 Pure Evil 0.29
119 Johhny Big Pants 0.20
119 Lemmistana 0.20
119 New Cyprus 0.20
122 Ashibot 0.17
122 Legalese 0.17
122 Somalialand 0.17
125 Kirstiriera 0.10
126 Arjastan 0.00
126 Mikele 0.00
126 Ravea 0.00
126 Vorpal Bunnies 0.00
126 NEW NATIONS 0.00
130 The Water Cooler -3.00

Will the Rankings Influence your chance of win or not, or is it just a reminder of your spot,

I am just asking if you are taking into account the players ranking in the actual playing you do

Will the Rankings Influence your chance of win or not, or is it just a reminder of your spot,

I am just asking if you are taking into account the players ranking in the actual playing you do

Nope, it makes no difference if you are ranked 200 or ranked 1, because American Samoa always plays Brazil with an equal chance of either side winning!

Will the Rankings Influence your chance of win or not, or is it just a reminder of your spot,

I am just asking if you are taking into account the players ranking in the actual playing you do

Yes, they do influence the chance of winning. Much as in real life, the #121 team is not likely to defeat the #7 team (it is possible, just very unlikely).

Hell, I just asked Bedi on IRC and he told me, as it helped my RP to show what the make-up of my group was like. Sorry for taking some initiative.I'm not upset at you for asking and getting the information. I'm upset that you were publishing it and I got stonewalled when asked for mine until I got pushy. You were just the example that came to mind since you were the first one I noticed to post a ranking.

I just think it's a bad idea to tell a privileged few people their rankings while leaving other people in the dark.

I just think it's a bad idea to tell a privileged few people their rankings while leaving other people in the dark.

It's simple to become privilegded if you really want to know stuff ;)

Dave Wilson saw the predictions by Rejistania media that all had Sarzonia advancing to the World Cup, with one prediction calling the Stars the first place team.

"I want whatever they're smoking,"<snip>
I simply assumed that it has an effect to RP you @$$ off as you did in the last cups. And the one which saw you finishing first... well, the Update is a socialist newspaper :)

Here is an answer to Somalialand, and everyone else wondering if a "newer" side can beat a "veteran" side.

Cup of Harmony finals/semi finals: Keep in mind that Kylaai had to first beat the veteran Weegies to get into the final in the first place.

Final:
Snub Nose 38 1 Kylaai 2 (TLC, Limassol Memorial International Stadium)

Vinali tikira/third place playoff:
Big Pimento 1 The Weegies 0 (Rejistania, Hetlasane Hetkali Stadium)

Congratulations and commiserations as applicable.

So, out of four matches at the end of the Cup of Harmony, the veteran side lost three.

SN38 beat Big Pimento to get to the final
Kylaai beat The Weegies to get to the final
Kylaai beat SN38 to win the final
Big Pimento beat The Weegies to win the third place match.

...and that's what makes it a horse race.

now, where's that dog food factory again?

019 Cockbill Street 30.90
109 Druida 0.67

Cockbill Street 2-2 Druida

*last seen moaning in a dark cupboard at his team's utter inferiority and cursing Margaret Smith...*

well this post is occ:


I thought this was supposed to be fair, Me and vilita match on everything except ranking, Everyone said ranking does not count and the only that counts is what you bring in and your matchday rping

Its sad to see vilita win 4:1 over us while they have not even posted 1 rp post this matchday, at least you could have ben reasonable

The Tropics of Vilita formally file a complaint to the fellow members of the WCC on the actions of Somalialand. Despite repeated warnings to use this thread for discussing, every thread has been tainted with his words. I request an official warning be issued, and any further violations be followed with a point deduction from their World Cup Qualifying campaign. For the record, I am quoting from the Scores thread which SPECIFICALLY STATES IN BOLD RED FONT, no users should respond other than Eauz.

And to Somalialand, Rank matters, or else there would be no point in having them, would there. Not to mention the fact that, I guess the Six posts I've made so far in the RP thread are supposed to count for nothing...

Iam kind of shoked with my lost here, i dont even know how iam writing here, I have deleted the post

Iam kind of shoked with my lost here, i dont even know how iam writing here, I have deleted the post

Go ahead, be shocked at your loss. Why don't you, the one who is supposed to be so knowledgable, go back and read maybe one or two rules. We've got the same RP Bonus, so the only thing seperating us is Rank. You are ranked 4 spots from the bottom, I am ranked 7 from the top. Not much of a contest, is it. You're lucky to have scored a goal...

That is an Insult to the Intelligence of the crowd,

every one Including the 2 hosts said that nothing in the Rank will include in the scoring process which means that if have more RP bonoses and actual RP's i will be in agood shape,

I thought this was supposed to be fair, Me and vilita match on everything except ranking, Everyone said ranking does not count and the only that counts is what you bring in and your matchday rping

Ranking does count, the fact that there are upsets does not disprove that!

We've got the same RP Bonus,

We dont, thats is the simple fact, let me ask you a simple quastion, direct me to a post you made on matchday, its not about rankings its what you write down and how good is it basicially,

ranking count but not in that degree

Using eloratings (http://www.eloratings.net/) high-quality service for comparisons:

Vilita (7) = Netherlands
Somalialand (122) = Sierra Leone

Holland.

Sierra Leone.

Think about that for a moment.





What do we all think the result of the silkly-smooth skills of the Dutch Masters versus the, um, war-torn, no-international-standing of Sierra Leone would be?

4-1 to Holland? What a great result for Sierra Leone!

Now compare this to the Vilita-Somalialand score. See my point yet?

We dont, thats is the simple fact.

Ask the hosts then, don't believe me. We both have the same RP bonus. Not that it would have mattered, I've still got 39 KPB points more than you to begin with.

Using eloratings (http://www.eloratings.net/) high-quality service for comparisons:

Vilita (7) = Netherlands
Somalialand (122) = Sierra Leone

Holland.

Sierra Leone.

Think about that for a moment.





What do we all think the result of the silkly-smooth skills of the Dutch Masters versus the, um, war-torn, no-international-standing of Sierra Leone would be?

4-1 to Holland? What a great result for Sierra Leone!

Now compare this to the Vilita-Somalialand score. See my point yet?

Knock, Knock, Knock

Lets not start dreaming here, we are not talking about the real thing, we are talking abut RPing and how should person be rewareded with his efforts of Rping

You see we use the RPing rule just to avoid that can of a thing, that will make nations be compared like that

And yeah, that guy has not posted one thing and he gets 4 goals, wow

What team

You know, it takes time to write this RPing things, on every nation rallly wants to win except those nations who dont RP at all,

We wanted to win and we wanted to sow we are a serious challanger so we posted evverything we had and create a huge post,

then we added another onee,

So are you going to tell me that after all that rping and thinking that nation who has not written a single post on matchday will cruz through me like that, well that is not me and those things dont go through me easily

Ask the hosts then, don't believe me. We both have the same RP bonus. Not that it would have mattered, I've still got 39 KPB points more than you to begin with.


Is there a chart for this, if there is one I wish i could see it

********************


I dont want to cmplain the whole day, I have another matchday to thinkabout so The only thing i want is fairness, and fairness we desrve as compatitor

Knock, Knock, Knock

Lets not start dreaming here, we are not talking about the real thing, we are talking abut RPing and how should person be rewareded with his efforts of Rping

First of all that'd better be an allusion to knocking on a table. Secondly, RPing does not produce such a huge difference that a new RPing nation could beat such a high-ranking one with any kind of frequency.

You see we use the RPing rule just to avoid that can of a thing, that will make nations be compared like that

And yeah, that guy has not posted one thing and he gets 4 goals, wow

You and Vilita both Maxed your Pre-Match RP bonuses. Both of you got the Maximum bonuses. Go read the RP thread again if you dont believe me. RP bonus in the World Cup is not as crucial as in the Baptism of Fire, either

We wanted to win and we wanted to sow we are a serious challanger so we posted evverything we had and create a huge post,

Good, thats great, keep it up and you'll do well. Probably not well enough to Qualify for the World Cup Finals, but quite well. Keep at it over successive Cups and you'll get there.


So are you going to tell me that after all that rping and thinking that nation who has not written a single post on matchday will cruz through me like that, well that is not me and those things dont go through me easily

Then you're less observant than you say you are.

That is an Insult to the Intelligence of the crowd,

every one Including the 2 hosts said that nothing in the Rank will include in the scoring process which means that if have more RP bonoses and actual RP's i will be in agood shape,

And that post is also an insult to the crowd's intelligence. I said nothing of the sort. If I may be allowed to quote myself...

Will the Rankings Influence your chance of win or not, or is it just a reminder of your spot,

I am just asking if you are taking into account the players ranking in the actual playing you do

Yes, they do influence the chance of winning. Much as in real life, the #121 team is not likely to defeat the #7 team (it is possible, just very unlikely).

To give you an idea, it was around a 12% chance of your team winning in this case. Had there been no RPing on either side, it would've been about 9%. Had only Vilita RPed, about 7%.

I rest my case.

[ooc] just a quick question, I am still kinda new to this RPing, so are my RPs okay, or do I need to work on them more?

[ooc] just a quick question, I am still kinda new to this RPing, so are my RPs okay, or do I need to work on them more?

From what I've seen, you're doing fine. Keep up the good work!

I dont want to cmplain the whole day, I have another matchday to thinkabout so The only thing i want is fairness, and fairness we desrve as compatitor

Stop for a second, look around.

Who else is complaining?

Oh yea. No One.

Who is supporting your arguement?

No One.

Who is opposing your arguements?

Everyone who has responded.

Does any of this even begin to tell you that you're ::Gasp:: WRONG?!

[ooc] just a quick question, I am still kinda new to this RPing, so are my RPs okay, or do I need to work on them more?

In my book, they're perfectly good RPs. But I'm not counting them for Scorination ;)

direct me to a post you made

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7300691&postcount=61

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7302657&postcount=64

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7307023&postcount=84

Guess you must be blind, or something. That or you just dont care about anything but your own posts.

From what I've seen, you're doing fine. Keep up the good work!

In my book, they're perfectly good RPs. But I'm not counting them for Scorination ;)

Cool, this is hella fun to do. Its fun reading all the good ones. I just always wanted to try and make them longer, but I never feel like they are long enough. Thanks for the feedback

In my book, they're perfectly good RPs. But I'm not counting them for Scorination ;)

Nova Britannicus = My Puppet, by the way, just so You and Somalialand (and anyone else interested) know.

The length of them is just fine, I always reckon its quality, not quantity. If you have both, of course, everyone's a winner.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7300691&postcount=61

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7302657&postcount=64

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7307023&postcount=84

Guess you must be blind, or something. That or you just dont care about anything but your own posts.


I said on matchday whichwas today.

************

Forget about the Issue OK,

I just wanted to raise the issue of fairness but yall seem yo dont crae about the fairness of the game and rping system

This will be last post about this, I just want to continue, Iam kind of sad and shocked at this moment, we do not even care if we loose every game at this moment but we will try hard to win every match that will be coming

we do not even care if we loose every game

Good, That can be arranged.


As for the RPing Today, What are you smoking crack? People play this game in all corners of the world. Just because their posts dont coincide with the period of time between when YOU decide to wake up and the time the scores are posted, does not mean they havent posted.

From the period of time that the RP thread is opened, until MD1 scores, It is Matchday 0. Matchday 1 RP time lasts from the posting of MD1 scores, to the posting of Md2 scores. Matchday 2 RP time from posting of MD2 scores to Md3...etc..etcc


Here's to hoping your wish comes true.

Its saturday for me, saturday meaning a free and boring day


Sorry if i rushed you, will that include people with life and actually have jobs and families (I have to have my girlfriend at least 3 times a week, you know what i meant by that)

Its saturday for me, saturday meaning a free and boring day


Sorry if i rushed you, will taht include if jave a job and a life

That is making sense in what language?

May be some woeds are in kiswahili (I do not want to reveal them)


By the way, we tried to difuse hostility against us by other nation but it seems we are not welcomed here in this rp

why are you all hostile against us,

sorry for the ones are not

Alright, I'm sorry I didn't start this earlier, but it looks like we need to have one to keep all those OOC's out of the RP thread. Anyways, this thread will be used to post your Questions, Opinions and pretty much anything else you need to bitch about.

BTW Vilita and Somalialand you might think about making this your "homepage" during WC18 :)

Who could have guessed they'd already have torn it up to Page 6 by Matchday 1. :eek:

*raises his hand*

All we had to do was wait for their score and bingo.

Now, I don't know how good your knowledge of the German language is, and I may even be construing this completely wrong (if so I apologise now), but the word uber can be translated as over. I am therefore assuming that an RP with the rating uber can also be described as OTT - too long, too boring and completely pointless. This rating is NOT good as far as I can make out, and the trick to a good RP is getting something between Average and Uber. Just to let you know...:)

I just noticed this from browsing through the thread for... well for fun, really, bit of a soap opera isnt it? :D

Anyway, an "uber" RP is a totally-brilliant-fantastic-wonderful RP, as it is used in a good way, translated more as 'above' than 'over'.

'Slani', by the way for any of you wondering, is Rejistanian (yes, Rejis created a whole language), generally meaning 'Bad'.

So, to re-cap. Uber = Great! Slani = Bad!

Somalialand: THE CUP WAS NOT SET UP TO LET TEAMS WIN ON RP BONUSES. IT WAS SET UP AS A FUN THING. RPs DO COUNT, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS!?

Now, I've no more love for obnoxious newbies than anyone else here, but it is amusing to count the number of times LE has broken his solemn word inside of a twenty-four hour span of time.

*makes another tally mark*

U21 is pretty much set up to let people win on RP Bonuses, BoF too.

Was I as bad as Somalialand when I first started?

Whoever is doing the scores, are they open to bribes? Money, cars, savoury muffins, anything?

Was I as bad as Somalialand when I first started?

Whoever is doing the scores, are they open to bribes? Money, cars, savoury muffins, anything?

Sure! Guess why the rejistani economy is alwayys at fair or lower after winning a world cup!

Was I as bad as Somalialand when I first started?

His case is ...... let's put it this way, no, you werent as bad.

Was I as bad as Somalialand when I first started?

You were... um... different :D

And, I must say, a helluva lot less irritating. Or should that be entertaining? I can't decide.

Sincere Apoligies



It has been seen that I have come to be an annoying and fictitious character on this tournament,

May I write fast and I just write what ever that comes from my head at that time, maybe I need to think about what I am writing little bit more whatever it is I will try to improve on and make sense of what I write

On the other hand, there are players who I have made their stay here little difficult, I did not mean to make any player feel miserable here, The only thing that come on my head at the time was make your self perfect and good on the Rping side but I have failed and made ya'll pay for that


You see when I came here on World cup ten with my now deceased team, I was hopeful, I did not like being treated as complete newcomer and I wanted to show my spirit, but that has made a lot of players and teams annoyed with me.


I just want to say one thing, sorry for the crap I have cost, Sorry for the One liners I have made, sorry for brainless posts I have made, sorry for the stupid stuff I have said, I just want to say sorry to ya'll and what ya'll doing is 100% better than me because you have stood and watch my Insulting, arrogant writings without saying anything to make me feel worse.


Hey guys, I did not me to make you always answer to me, I just wanted little explanation, But I guess I asked the wrong way on some of those time
I’m even sorry for writing RB instead of RP

The Bottom line is


I am sorry for the nuisance I have made ya’ll read and what I have I said the past match day and beyond

Well, for myself, I accept your apology Somalialand. I hope everyone else does, too.

For me, that means no grudges. We move on with a clean slate.

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here's something i do sometimes that might help you. write the rp in word, then cut and paste to post it. that let's you edit it, use the spell check, read it over, make changes, etc. you don't hafta do it that way, but sometimes i find it helps.

Well, I know what it's like to have people hate me (indeed some still do), so I wouldn't want it on anybody else: general apology accepted!

P.S. We have something very special planned for our home match against Vilita. Watch This Space...

When a certain someone stops thinking he'll win the cup on his first try.

You don't like people who think that do you LE? Why don't you start venting your spleen at your little beelzebuddy Vilita then, anyone remember this?

Vilkauos warns of Vilita Threat

Taking questions from the media, questioning the teams chances for qualifications into the finals in their first attempt, Vilkauos said:

"I feel we have a better chance at qualifying than most nations... They do not know that we have some of the best facilities money can buy right here in Vilita. We have a huge array of talent in the side...

Entering the world cup as a newb and hoping/thinking your gonna win is a normal attitude to have. Even the newbs back in world cup six thought they were going to win their group at a canter. Observe:


Liverpool England team kicks off World Cup with Disappointing Defeats
The coach has been sacked after the loss to Quohog, with Jim Whites being called up to lead LE in the remainder of the qualifying. Liverpool England, however, are tipped to pull off a comeback and win the group with the remaining 12 games.

and, just to remind you...

stop thinking [you'll] win the cup on [your] first try.

You've also gone on record as saying you disliked the fact that Eauz and Rejistania won the world cup so early on in their NS careers, when your WC8 world cup win came after just TWO world cups after your WC6 debut.

Quite frankly, i think your behaviour towards newbs is a complete disgrace and has been since i can remember. You, and Vilita as well, have got to realise that crying and yelling at naive mistakes don't help at all. If a newb tells you their defenders can score 90 goals a season, how about instead of crying your eyes out and throwing a tantrum, ask him if his season is 150 matches long? It is possible a Somalialand season lasts over a year. If that isnt the case, then yes Somalialand is godmodding. And what do you do if someone godmods? Ignore it and let it go. If they keep godmodding, you tell them that theyre godmodding. If they get all defensive on you, then FOR CHRIST SAKE DONT GET ALL DEFENSIVE BACK, its just gonna take a couple of other people explaining whatever it is to them to make them see sense.

Bickering like this is a complete waste of everyones time unless its remotely entertaining, which neither LE or Vilita seem capable of making it.

an apology

Well put. Now its your turn Vi/le

Quite frankly, i think your behaviour towards newbs is a complete disgrace and has been since i can remember. You, and Vilita as well, have got to realise that crying and yelling at naive mistakes don't help at all. If a newb tells you their defenders can score 90 goals a season,


I've never complained about him thinking he could win or saying his defenders score 90 goals a season. I think it's great that he's optimistic and I think it's great that it drives him to post more RP's. The only thing I've argued on was the extensive OOC posts in the RP thread, and went over the top when one was posted in the DO NOT POST scores thread. That, and inaccurate facts such as "Rank doesnt matter". In my first cup, I kept it to RP. And I spelled it right :)

I simply assumed that it has an effect to RP you @$$ off as you did in the last cups. And the one which saw you finishing first... well, the Update is a socialist newspaper :)

I know OOCly, but you've got to understand one thing about Sarzonian coaches. Bryan Marshall was the kind of coach who would praise a Somalialand and paint them as an overwhelming favorite and fret about every little matchup. Meanwhile, he'd also be up late studying the film on the team he's facing. If you're familiar at all with American football, the coach he's most similar to is Joe Gibbs.

Dave Wilson's much more of a jokester, but he would still consider it amusing that a team that missed out on qualifying for the Finals would be favored to go through as the group winner. His only stated goal is to get IN to the World Cup Finals. If it's as the third place team or higher, it doesn't matter to him.

In short, that's not OOC wondering what you're smoking. That was purely IC. ;)

The only thing I've argued on was the extensive OOC posts in the RP thread, and went over the top when one was posted in the DO NOT POST scores thread. That, and inaccurate facts such as "Rank doesnt matter". In my first cup, I kept it to RP. And I spelled it right :)

Whatever the motive is/was, you've gone about it in completely the wrong way imo

Whatever the motive is/was, you've gone about it in completely the wrong way imo

No, I tried to move the conversation to MSN Messenger. I even provided somolialand with my MSN address. He responded and sended he wanted my MSN address, not my email. So I'm all out of ideas...

try conatcting me

Address is

Siradmuse1338@msn.com

As a voting member of the WCC, I am going to voice my total displeasure all around.

1. Somalialand:

Your posts have incited and caused much strife. While IC bravado is acceptable here, OOC bravado and pot shots are not. The cup equations, which is the right of each cup hosts to create (and if you are here enough, you will love some equations, and hate others) and how they allow both rank and RP bonus to affect the randomness of goals scored in a match. Both rank and RP affects the chance to score goals. Rank gives a baseline to work off of, and then RP will modify that baseline. At least that was how my equation worked when I hosted 3 cups ago. I can't speak for Rejis as I am not privy to the specifics of this cup. The point is, a 4-1 loss to the 7th ranked team in the world is not as bad as it could be. Trust me, I've seen worse. to good RP'ing teams.

But where I think this all went wrong, is that while I have seen many new teams in character declare victory their first cup, your posts at time would bleed over to OOC and that was what caused much of this strife. My first cup I did RP my @$$ off, and got a few lucky scores. so quick success can happen, but you have to be patient if it doesn't.

2. Vilita and Liverpool England.

Your reponses to said posts have incited and caused much strife. Vilita, as part of the WCC, you have to set a much higher example than before. While I know I may have fussed at you last cup, it was heat of the moment and I got over it. LE, as a veteran team, you should also be set to a higher example of how to act in a cup. I have to agree with AS in that the way that you too have acted in response has been a bit over the top (except for the reporting to the mod, cause I was going to do that.)

Now, I have seen Somalialand has apologized and will hoepfully keep all bravado IC. want to play a IC feud? do it. I had one with spaam my first cup. Had one with Melmond a few ago. if you do that, then by all means have fun with it, but I would also suggest an Telegram to that player to let them know it's storyline only. nothing OOC.

I'm not taking sides on this. I see mistakes on both sides, but this.... well...for lack of a better term... "urinating contest" has ruined the start to this cup.

Now can we let the garbage PLEASE stop and play a cup?

Otherwise I may follow up with Vilita's idea and ask for sanctions against ALL teams who won't let this drop in a nice and calm manner.

good post

Few points:

AS, I had a chance of qualifying my first time around (I finished what, 4th in the group?), and I said winning my group, no the whole damn thing.

Secondly, well said TEN

Thirdly, Somalialand: You can get your old nation resurrected. Just ask any mod and they'll do so. Mind if I ask, which was your old nation?

I dont feel like rping with that nation anymore, i want to be me and me alone at this point

I know you don't want replies in here, I just want to note that TLC might, or might not, be having troubles RPing. Super-Typhhon Nock-Ten is heading for Taiwan, where he is.

::Bangs Head Against Wall::

OOC: Very sorry, no RP today. Have lots of RL homework to clear. Will combine my RP with tomorrow's. .

::Bangs Head Against Wall::


Because these HAD TO BE posted in the Scores and RP thread, where they specifcally arent allowed, and could NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES been posted right here...

Yes, they do influence the chance of winning. Much as in real life, the #121 team is not likely to defeat the #7 team (it is possible, just very unlikely).

It may be a little late but:

World Cup 17 Qualification
Big Pimento 3 (NR) - Audioslavia 3 (8)

That happened in a cup where newbs generally got their asses kicked and I'm not too sure what number rank was being associated with NR. So it does happen, but for everytime a minnow steals a point from a powerhouse, that minnow gets thrashed 10 times by 5.

It may be a little late but:

World Cup 17 Qualification
Big Pimento 3 (NR) - Audioslavia 3 (8)

That happened in a cup where newbs generally got their asses kicked and I'm not too sure what number rank was being associated with NR. So it does happen, but for everytime a minnow steals a point from a powerhouse, that minnow gets thrashed 10 times by 5.

Calmly forgetting: Big Pimento (NR) 2 - Cockbill Street (~22) 1 ;)

You kicked a few asses, mate :)

...and now, a change from the usual programming (it sounds better than arguing).

Question: When will the World Cup 19 sign-ups start?

...and now, back to the various slanging matches that... wait, that's given me an idea... how about an insult world cup? No, didn't think so. Anyway, where were we...

I think we're at the stage where the argument just seems to have cooled off when somebody makes a comment about somebody else's hair and the whole thing flares up again. :)

This is not a flame. This is an
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
post.

RPs go in the RP Thread. Any other crap goes here. NOTHING goes in the Scores Thread unless you just happen to be Bedistan, Eauz, or someone filling in for them (IE TnUI should one of these go tits up).

Helpful Hints For Somalialand (I am not having a go. The only person I've ever chewed the head off of was Vilita, and THAT was in IRC.)

1) Ranking is the major driving force in results. RP makes a bit of difference, and can help you rise up the rankings quicker, as does sheer dumb luck. 10 points in 14 games would be a massive achievement at this stage. But fear not, as you are becoming a regular RPer you will probably be invited to the Cup Of Harmony, and that will also help rankings.

2) Insults, flaming, and generally throwing the toys out of the pram will get you nowhere. Maserrat learned this the hard way. Liverpool England, bless his little cotton socks, still hasn't.

3) Large headlines and poor spelling does make your RPs a little hard to read. Shrink the headlines a little, and check your spellings (even if you have to use Word and cut'n'paste), and you will go far.

4) The above are not meant as anything personal. It's just informing you of the norms and customs of the NSWC society.

Thank you all for your time and patience in reading this.

Does this mean i get to run for WCC membership now? :D :p

It may be a little late but:

World Cup 17 Qualification
Big Pimento 3 (NR) - Audioslavia 3 (8)

That happened in a cup where newbs generally got their asses kicked and I'm not too sure what number rank was being associated with NR. So it does happen, but for everytime a minnow steals a point from a powerhouse, that minnow gets thrashed 10 times by 5.

i was ranked sixth, so its even more annoying.. i mean... better ;)

Hey Krytenia, what is the Cup of Harmony. I have heard it a few times, but have not seen it. Is it invite only or something?

Oh yea, are there updated world rankings too? Or do those just stay as they are until its over?

That happened in a cup where newbs generally got their asses kicked and I'm not too sure what number rank was being associated with NR. So it does happen, but for everytime a minnow steals a point from a powerhouse, that minnow gets thrashed 10 times by 5.I don't think you were a minnow... more like a piranha. :)

Like Krytenia said, RPs can help you rise up the rankings faster, but rankings DO count. The Baptism of Fire Cup helps you more if you RP because it's designed to get new countries to RP and get some experience before the World Cup. If you don't participate in the BoF and/or if you don't RP there, you start off at a disadvantage when you play in the World Cup.

Big Pimento didn't take part in the BoF tournament for the last World Cup, but I think that country's success in being the newb country that no power in its right mind would want to face was partly due to RP skill and partly due to luck.

In my case, I won the Baptism of Fire Cup in the 16th World Cup (and was 6-0-0) partly because I RP'd throughout. I came within one match of advancing to the World Cup in my debut partly because I RP'd (in fact, I was LEADING the group with two matches remaining in qualifying). I also came within a playoff match of advancing in the last World Cup partly due to RPing.

But part of RPing is being careful about things like spelling, punctuation, and writing style. Big Pimento had all three. I enjoy reading his match reports or his other RPs in the World Cup because I can picture the story he paints and because he writes well.

Remember though that RPing isn't the be-all and end-all of the World Cup. Rankings have to play a role, or what good would they do? Any number one ranked team that consistently loses to a 35th ranked team wouldn't be number one for very long, would they? Brazil wouldn't consistently lose to Morocco. They wouldn't consistently get beaten by the United States. That's not how football works.

So definitely write up your match reports in MS Word and run spell check before you post your message. It may not solve all your problems, but it will be a help.

Breaking News: Lawyers banned from travelling during World Cup Qualifying

Legalese City, Legalese: Today, the Legalese Senate unanimously approved a measure banning anyone with a JD from travelling to a nation that the Men's National Team is taking on during World Cup Qualifying. This law is undoubtedly in effect to prevent the travesty in Rejistania, where the juris doctorate hooliagans stormed the field, resulting in the swift passage (and later repeal) of over 250 additions to the Rejistani code.

Chief Justice Quinten J. Wharli appeared today, giving his approval to the decision of the Senate.

"This is not a good time for legalites to go abroad" He said. "It is sad to see the actions of a mere 1500 ruin things for half the population."

More news to come on this story, as the 0-2 Legalese MNT prepare to travel to Sarzonia.If the kit don't fit, you must acquit.

Jonathan Cochrane (http://www.cochranfirm.com/images/home-johnniecochran.jpg)
Attorney General
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

The preceding has been an OOC post.

I was waiting for a link to the RP thread or something to appear in the WC18 Signup Thread, or the BoF thread, or SOMETHING... but nothing came. Sorry I entered late, but I've been really busy over the past week and won't get any less busy, and the lack of info in the other threads led me to think it was slow going to get started. I'll try to post once in a while.

I was waiting for a link to the RP thread or something to appear in the WC18 Signup Thread, or the BoF thread, or SOMETHING... but nothing came. Sorry I entered late, but I've been really busy over the past week and won't get any less busy, and the lack of info in the other threads led me to think it was slow going to get started. I'll try to post once in a while.

Usually Liverpool England and NEWI Cefn Druids and Rejistania send out TG's... Guess they didnt do that this time around :)

Okay, I've accepted some results I've considered a bit "questionable" (notably my 4-0 loss to Big Pimento and a 2-2 draw in the second match of this World Cup), but a 5-2 loss to the bottom seed in my group?! I find that HIGHLY unlikely that a team ranked 30th in the world is going to get beaten that easily by a team that's ranked 121st in the world, particularly by that wide a margin.

I want an explanation.

Okay, I've accepted some results I've considered a bit "questionable" (notably my 4-0 loss to Big Pimento and a 2-2 draw in the second match of this World Cup), but a 5-2 loss to the bottom seed in my group?! I find that HIGHLY unlikely that a team ranked 30th in the world is going to get beaten that easily by a team that's ranked 121st in the world, particularly by that wide a margin.

I want an explanation.

One random result mate (plus, the Beddy scorinator is fairly kind on low-ranked teams - see Druida). Fair bit of RP bonus helps too, I reckon.

Blame the rain, the thunder, the lawyers who blocked the Legalese goal with suing charges against Sarzonia for being "too good", whatever...

Oh, btw, for a RL example, Norway lost to Latvia 1-3 in a WC qualifier in 1998, when the teams were ranked 17th and 97th respectively. I'm sure there are a fair few other such examples around too.

I want an explanation.

It's pretty obvious both to me and the staff of the Iansisle Ians that your coach simply isn't inspiring the players enough and is making the wrong calls. I suggest you replace him.

[/tongueincheek]

I want an explanation.

Just don't blame it on me. It's not our fault we got the kits in the wrong sizes :p

randomness.

just like why TEN (ranked 3rd at the time.) got beak by a team in the mid 80's last cup FIRST MATCH OUT.

I want an explanation.

Simple explanation: randomness. In fact, I've done the analysis and Legalese defeating you 5-2 (a score that admittedly raised my own eyebrows when I saw it) was an extremely unlikely result, with odds against it on the order of around 1350-1. Nevertheless, these things can and do happen on occasion. With a total of 560 matches played in qualifying alone, it's bound to happen to somebody. Margaret simply was not kind to you there.

I guess since i shut my lips shut, i must be going down on the stupidity thing

and i guess who is going up on this

I will just give you the first clue

Sar****

I guess since i shut my lips shut, i must be going down on the stupidity thing

and i guess who is going up on this

I will just give you the first clue

Sar****

You know what, that comment was completely unnecessary on your part. It seems you haven't learned a damn thing from all the multiple warnings and complaints about you.

For a result THAT unlikely, I have a right to ask. My inquiry was answered.

Dont get all snubby, I was just trying to make myself a little laugh

sorry if you think it was that offensive

Dont get all snubby, I was just trying to make myself a little laugh

sorry if you think it was that offensiveI don't think you have much leeway to joke around.

Your apology is not accepted.

I'll put in a few words here. I agree with Sarzonia, Somalialand, your post was not needed, and it is advisable you delete it before any mods come in and check - you are already on a warning. No, I wont go to them, but just remove the post.

Second. The World Cup started out with what? RANDOM NUMBERS, yep you heard me, RANDOM.

Third, Krytenia. I don't think your point about me was needed, but I'm not offended. Point taken.

Anything else?

Okay, I've accepted some results I've considered a bit "questionable" (notably my 4-0 loss to Big Pimento and a 2-2 draw in the second match of this World Cup), but a 5-2 loss to the bottom seed in my group?! I find that HIGHLY unlikely that a team ranked 30th in the world is going to get beaten that easily by a team that's ranked 121st in the world, particularly by that wide a margin.

I want an explanation.And I want several million dollars.

What you really want is to have won.

We're both gonna get the same thing - way less than we want. ;)

On a different note - this bickering is getting very, very annoying. Everybody take a deep breath, think positive thoughs, imagine a lovely place to be, imagine that you're there...and remember, this is nothing but a game inside a game. If you lose, RP the flippin' loss (or not) and let it go. And if someone "insults" you - consider the source, and let that go, too.

Last - because FMJphoenix asked, and I don't remember an answer being given (I may have missed it) - The Cup of Harmony is an "extra" tournament invented to give some sides who fail to qualify for the World Cup (don't make the final 32) itself something "footballish" to do while they wait for the next cup. It's usually opened to anyone who didn't qualify but did RP. And, you can up your ranking a little if you participate (particularly if you do well).

When the Qualifying rounds for WC18 are over, someone will host the Cup of Harmony for this cup. :cool:

And I want several million dollars.

What you really want is to have won.

We're both gonna get the same thing - way less than we want. ;)

On a different note - this bickering is getting very, very annoying. Everybody take a deep breath, think positive thoughs, imagine a lovely place to be, imagine that you're there...and remember, this is nothing but a game inside a game. If you lose, RP the flippin' loss (or not) and let it go. And if someone "insults" you - consider the source, and let that go, too.

Last - because FMJphoenix asked, and I don't remember an answer being given (I may have missed it) - The Cup of Harmony is an "extra" tournament invented to give some sides who fail to qualify for the World Cup (don't make the final 32) itself something "footballish" to do while they wait for the next cup. It's usually opened to anyone who didn't qualify but did RP. And, you can up your ranking a little if you participate (particularly if you do well).

When the Qualifying rounds for WC18 are over, someone will host the Cup of Harmony for this cup. :cool:

Yea, just let stuff go. I still have not won a single match, but meh, I am turning them into hopeful rp situations. I duno how good they sound but I can't complain about it. That just takes out the fun of the game. Everyone just needs to remember that it is just a game and have fun!

Thanks Snub Nose 38, I was wondering what it was, thanks for the info. If(more like when) I dont make it past the qualifying rounds, I hope I can do that too.

Blah blah blah blah Lanky Dude blah blah blah Endray Island blah blah blah random numbers blah margaret blah blah black sheep have you any wool, yes sir yes sir Rhaken Krull, one for the (grand) master (mark) one for Kylaai, and one for the little boy who lives on Cockbill Lane.

Blah blah blah blah Lanky Dude blah blah blah Endray Island blah blah blah random numbers blah margaret blah blah black sheep have you any wool, yes sir yes sir Rhaken Krull, one for the (grand) master (mark) one for Kylaai, and one for the little boy who lives on Cockbill Lane.lol

Blah blah blah blah Lanky Dude blah blah blah Endray Island blah blah blah random numbers blah margaret blah blah black sheep have you any wool, yes sir yes sir Rhaken Krull, one for the (grand) master (mark) one for Kylaai, and one for the little boy who lives on Cockbill Lane.

*slaps the sheep with his 4-0 victory*

1. Sarzonia was within his rights to question that result, and Bedistan has proven that he looked into it at least to my satisfaction.

2. Somaliland, watch it. you've already ticked off enough people, don't try to start up anything else until things have cooled off. Your RP's have been great, let them do the talking, not you as an OOC person.

3. I'm itching to submit a rule to the WCC about consistant bikcering/griping on the parts of playing nations. don't make me officially submit it for a vote.

4. It's a GAME played with random numbers. Titles mean nothing, no money, no new job, no 7 year contracts. nothing.

Remember that.

While we're talking about "random" numbers, is there some reason why I keep losing 2-1? http://terranordalis.thirdgeek.com/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif

While we're talking about "random" numbers, is there some reason why I keep losing 2-1? http://terranordalis.thirdgeek.com/images/smiles/icon_razz.gifwell...2 and 1 are both numbers...and, separately, I guess they're random enough...

;)

2 hours ago: The Paradise of Halfassedstates ceased to exist.

Third, Krytenia. I don't think your point about me was needed, but I'm not offended. Point taken.

Sorry, LE. It was only tongue-in cheek.

2 hours ago: The Paradise of Halfassedstates ceased to exist.

Ah, nuts. That means we have to invoke the forfeit rule, which means a good bit of manual number-crunching on my part since the scorinator won't do that for me. Just like the good old days... :rolleyes:

EDIT: Never mind, the functionality is there now. Like they always say, necessity is the mother of invention. ;)

Official Hosting Note

Since the nation of Halfassedstates has ceased to exist, its team will automatically forfeit all remaining World Cup XVIII qualifying matches. Any team scheduled to play Halfassedstates will be credited with a 3-0 win, and the forfeiting team will lose three points for each forfeit. This rule is in keeping with precedent established in previous World Cups.

Official Hosting Note

Since the nation of Halfassedstates has ceased to exist, its team will automatically forfeit all remaining World Cup XVIII qualifying matches. Any team scheduled to play Halfassedstates will be credited with a 3-0 win, and the forfeiting team will lose three points for each forfeit. This rule is in keeping with precedent established in previous World Cups.

I'm just curious: why only games not yet played? Considering the timing, it appears that a ceased nation has not been involved in the cup altogether, which shows cause, as well as in the name of fairness, to either award the 3-0 result for all matches, or to throw out the matches, and base that group on 12 matches.

Not complaining, I'm just interested to hear the reasoning behind the application of the rule. :)

err, sorry but normally we used a different method: the team plays its matches like normal (since the national team managed to be somewhere else when the country disappeared) and when the qualification is over, 80 points are deducted.

err, sorry but normally we used a different method: the team plays its matches like normal (since the national team managed to be somewhere else when the country disappeared) and when the qualification is over, 80 points are deducted.

Yes, only nations that forfeit their games are deucted points and are dealt with the 3-0 Walkover.

EDIT: Then again, he is in my group so I wouldnt mind the 3-0 walkover. (JK)

err, sorry but normally we used a different method: the team plays its matches like normal (since the national team managed to be somewhere else when the country disappeared) and when the qualification is over, 80 points are deducted.

And it was the worst idea in the history of bad ideas, So I'm glad that this precedent is FINALLY being broken. Realistically, too.

It's a little frustrating - I'm the only one consistently RPing in my group, yet I can't even beat Somalialand! Also, both Somalialand and Maldunia (both ranked below 100) have had a point from teams above them - twice! I have had no such lucky results yet. I know this is random and all, but it's really annoying that even the random scorinator is against me!

It is nice to know that some people care though :) (PM of EC)

Can't wait for tonight's game. Expecting a total thrashing, but who cares!

It's a little frustrating - I'm the only one consistently RPing in my group, yet I can't even beat Somalialand! Also, both Somalialand and Maldunia (both ranked below 100) have had a point from teams above them - twice! I have had no such lucky results yet. I know this is random and all, but it's really annoying that even the random scorinator is against me!

It is nice to know that some people care though :) (PM of EC)

Can't wait for tonight's game. Expecting a total thrashing, but who cares!

We playing yet? :)

I would RP but RL is more important right now, I managed to get a little something up about 1-3 although i never did finish it, I'll eventually do at least the same for the rest of the matches, just takes time; )

Now, how many goals will Vilita score tonight? Ooohh...about four or five.

If we lose by less than 3 goals I'll be happy :)

Hopefully we can use this to improve relations between us.

Since the nation of Halfassedstates has ceased to exist, its team will automatically forfeit all remaining World Cup XVIII qualifying matches.

Gah! They couldn't have ex-nationed before beating me 1-0?!?!

And the beneficiary of two automatic wins in group 10? Aquiliana.


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I think the phrase most Starblaydis would use for this situation is simply 'Typical.'

err, sorry but normally we used a different method: the team plays its matches like normal (since the national team managed to be somewhere else when the country disappeared) and when the qualification is over, 80 points are deducted.

And it was the sh****iest idea in the history of bad ideas, So I'm glad that this precedent is FINALLY being broken. Realistically, too.

Rejis forgot to state that, in the event that Halfassedstates qualify for the world cup but still haven't made an appearance (he might have lost the internet for 3 weeks and might be back soon) then he will be denied entry and the team in fourth place in that group will go through.

I think this is the best option as it allows HAS to make a comeback and an apology/explanation, and allows an RPing nation to make the world cup should he fail to return.

Either way, i'll respect any decision the hosts make

[EDIT] 'Realistically Too'? Vilita? The only similarity you can draw with IRL is Yugoslavia in Euro '92. Despite breaking up they were allowed to finish the qualifiers, but as they were no longer a country they were denied entry to the European Championships in favour of the team that finished behind them in the group.

[EDIT] 'Realistically Too'? Vilita? The only similarity you can draw with IRL is Yugoslavia in Euro '92. Despite breaking up they were allowed to finish the qualifiers, but as they were no longer a country they were denied entry to the European Championships in favour of the team that finished behind them in the group.

Realistic in that These games are supposed to be played home and away. With no "Home" Nation, it kind of screws things up a bit. If it happened when I was hosting (Damnit) I would have continued scoring regularly, but all results with that team in them would be omitted from the table, with only the results between the other 7 teams counting towards who advances.

Gah! They couldn't have ex-nationed before beating me 1-0?!?!

And the beneficiary of two automatic wins in group 10? Aquiliana.


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I think the phrase most Starblaydis would use for this situation is simply 'Typical.'This is the reason why, in the past, we let the matches of the "deceased" side continue - it restores the level playing ground for all sides in the group. THEN, when qualifiers are over, the "deceased" side is NOT allowed to qualify, so someone else in the group will.

(we will miss you, halfassedstates. particularly margaret, who has (had?) family there...)

Um... I was just wondering when WC19 sign-ups were going to start.

I asked this question before, but don't think it got a reply. Though this could be down to ignorance on my part, of course. If anyone knows, or actually wants to get the thread started (all I know is that it isn't my responsibility), please feel free. Unless you're not supposed to, then I'd advise that you don't.

This is the reason why, in the past, we let the matches of the "deceased" side continue - it restores the level playing ground for all sides in the group. THEN, when qualifiers are over, the "deceased" side is NOT allowed to qualify, so someone else in the group will.

(we will miss you, halfassedstates. particularly margaret, who has (had?) family there...)


Or, we could simply expunge the results of the ceased nation at the end of qualifying, assuming they are still ceased, and determine the standings based on the results between the 7 active teams... The 8 Team standings would only be used for KPB Purposes...

Or, sir stick up his arse, we could simply expunge the results of the ceased nation at the end of qualifying, assuming they are still ceased, and determine the standings based on the results between the 7 active teams... The 8 Team standings would only be used for KPB Purposes...

Now there's a damn good idea!

Though, considering I say that about every idea ever, that isn't really the best endorsement ever...

Now there's a damn good idea!

Though, considering I say that about every idea ever, that isn't really the best endorsement ever...

It's essentially the same concept as the one i/snub mentioned, you sheep-shagging Earnshaw-is-an-international-class-footballer-thinking eejit :p :)

Or, sir stick up his arse, we could simply expunge the results of the ceased nation at the end of qualifying, assuming they are still ceased, and determine the standings based on the results between the 7 active teams... The 8 Team standings would only be used for KPB Purposes...Could I ask, politely (before I get all angry and retributive), why you felt it necessary to include a personal insult in your post?

*Looks back*

...Damn, I quoted that! That means I used it too!

I shall apologise on behalf of myself. Vilita, on the other hand, is just nasty.

Could I ask, politely (before I get all angry and retributive), why you felt it necessary to include a personal insult in your post?

Because you just HAD to type in bold and caps, signalling strength of voice and anger... If these were not your intentions then I suggest you type normally during ooc discussion

It's essentially the same concept as the one i/snub mentioned, you sheep-shagging Earnshaw-is-an-international-class-footballer-thinking eejit :p :)

No, they are nothing alike. Yours still call for the results of an ex-nation to factor into the final standings. Simply making them "ineligible" does not eliminate the effect their results have on their group mates.

meanwhile, in the department of unlikely results.

I do remind Bedistan stated it was less than a 1 in 6 chance I would LOSE to SN38.

and I lost by 2?

ouch.

methinks the scorinator loves the underdog....so I foresee all teams with a ranking less than 50 making the Cup *tounge in cheek* except for Rejis, who well, I think has bribed the entire economy of Rejistania to ensure good results.

gotta love it.

and honestl,y I am getting tired of all these insults. chill y'all.

Because you just HAD to type in bold and caps, signalling strength of voice and anger... If these were not your intentions then I suggest you type normally during ooc discussionshut up, you little twit.

I type in bold to get attention.

shut up, you little twit.

I type in bold to get attention.Can it with the insults, please. EVERYONE.

No, they are nothing alike. Yours still call for the results of an ex-nation to factor into the final standings. Simply making them "ineligible" does not eliminate the effect their results have on their group mates.

Fair point, my bad.

Either way, i think their results should still be allowed to stand as they were a part of qualifying, and so as not to waste some team's time by preparing and playing a match against a team who might or might not matter anyway. A dead nation definately shouldn't be allowed into the tournament proper though.

meanwhile, in the department of unlikely results.

I do remind Bedistan stated it was less than a 1 in 6 chance I would LOSE to SN38.

and I lost by 2?

ouch.

methinks the scorinator loves the underdog....so I foresee all teams with a ranking less than 50 making the Cup *tounge in cheek* except for Rejis, who well, I think has bribed the entire economy of Rejistania to ensure good results.

gotta love it.

and honestl,y I am getting tired of all these insults. chill y'all.

Is this whole post tounge-in-cheek? Because if it is, then its very very funny.

If it isn't, then what on earth is the world coming to when a nation can't even lose to a seasoned veteran without kicking up a fuss? I don't understand the uproar which surrounds these upsets. Look at Cockbill Street.

methinks the scorinator loves the underdog....Yeah. TOO much. :rolleyes:

shut up, you little twit.

I type in bold to get attention.


My point, exactly.

Just a thought, and I can't remember if it's already been mentioned.

Why don't you just remove Halfassedstates from the group, delete all the results involving the team, remove fixtures involving the team still to come and have a group of seven?

*hides behind dustbin to avoid onslaught of verbal abuse*

My point, exactly.In 16 World Cups, 1 Cup of Harmony, 1 Founders Cup, and 4 GESFL Cups, only two people have managed to irritate me to the point of anger.

You've managed to do it twice. And in the space of 2 Cups.

Well done.

In 16 World Cups, 1 Cup of Harmony, 1 Founders Cup, and 4 GESFL Cups, only two people have managed to irritate me to the point of anger.

You've managed to do it twice. And in the space of 2 Cups.

Well done.That doesn't give you the right to hurl insults at him or anyone else for that matter.

Make no mistake about this, I asked for and received an explanation regarding my loss to Legalese. I got what I was looking for. THAT case is closed. I'm not angry about that result. However, I AM angry about the way several people who should "know better" have behaved in this thread. That includes you.

This game within a game is supposed to be a fun diversion from the seriousness of life and it's even supposed to be a diversion from the occasional dredgeries of other RPs on this site. However, this is very quickly turning into a place of insults and cat-calling that is making it not much fun to play this particular tournament.

I'm not privy to your feelings about Vilita except for what you've mentioned on this thread. However, hurling insults at someone because you're angry with them is completely uncalled for.

*Sticks head above dustbin*

This is what the table would look like currently:

Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 LE 5 5 0 0 13 3 10 15
2 Aqu 5 2 2 1 11 6 5 8
3 Sta 4 2 1 1 5 4 1 7
4 NB 4 1 2 1 6 5 1 5
5 TEU 4 1 1 2 6 7 -1 4
6 TLU 4 1 0 3 4 7 -3 3
7 Son 4 0 0 4 1 14 -13 0

*Hides behind dustbin again*

GROUP HUG!

*sniff* I love everybody!

*hugs TnUI*

*Hugs TnUI and Ian*

Back to my imagery "Tadjikistan rocks" world

That doesn't give you the right to hurl insults at him or anyone else for that matter.

Make no mistake about this, I asked for and received an explanation regarding my loss to Legalese. I got what I was looking for. THAT case is closed. I'm not angry about that result. However, I AM angry about the way several people who should "know better" have behaved in this thread. That includes you.

This game within a game is supposed to be a fun diversion from the seriousness of life and it's even supposed to be a diversion from the occasional dredgeries of other RPs on this site. However, this is very quickly turning into a place of insults and cat-calling that is making it not much fun to play this particular tournament.

I'm not privy to your feelings about Vilita except for what you've mentioned on this thread. However, hurling insults at someone because you're angry with them is completely uncalled for.
Vilita insulted me in an earlier post ("sir stick up his arse", I believe) in this thread.

I asked why before I responded - because I might have mis-understood, or I might have said something that he(she) considered insulting and was responding to. The answer was because I used bold type.

Which, as we all know, is a capital offense.

Whatever his/her opinion of me is (and at this point, I really don't care), he/she could easily have responded without the insult - but apparently preferred to throw the insult in. And when I gave him/her a chance to say it wasn't meant as an insult, he/she did not do so, but seemed to prefer to think that the insult was appropriate - after all, I had used bold type.

Vilita insulted me in an earlier post ("sir stick up his arse", I believe) in this thread.I noticed that post and I also consider that to be inappropriate. Notice the following two quotes from my post to you:

I AM angry about the way several people who should "know better" have behaved in this thread. That includes you.

(H)urling insults at someone because you're angry with them is completely uncalled for.I believe I am making it clear that my own use of the bold and a large font size in asking EVERYONE on this thread to stop the insults is directed at everyone on any "side" of this war of words. For the most part, my anger is focused on ALL the people who are trading the insults back and forth on this thread long after several other people have 1) been asked to stop and 2) been warned outright.

Vilita was absolutely wrong for saying "stick it up your arse." YOU were wrong for telling him to shut up and calling him a twit. Two wrongs still don't make a right, especially if you are in a respected position in the NS World Cup community. Someone said that those of you in those respected positions are to be held to a higher standard than the rest of us peons who just RP. If that's the case, several of you are failing miserably.

... If that's the case, several of you are failing miserably.Whether that is the case or not, point well taken.

Just a thought, and I can't remember if it's already been mentioned.

Why don't you just remove Halfassedstates from the group, delete all the results involving the team, remove fixtures involving the team still to come and have a group of seven?

*hides behind dustbin to avoid onslaught of verbal abuse*

That was my suggestion already :) except halfassed still keeps playing just incase they come back, then they would be reincluded in the table

Why not just do what we did in the past, get the pres to make a ruling. Anyone seen KP?

That was my suggestion already :) except halfassed still keeps playing just incase they come back, then they would be reincluded in the table

That sounds reasonable to me. I missed out round 6 before somebody points it out, but the general idea is there.

If the "forfeit rule" is going into effect, our national team will be willing to play our first match against Halfassedstates, therefore making the group entirely fair (everyone gets 1 forfeit).

The game is scheduled to be played in Aquiliana, so that issue is irrelevant for this matchday.

Now that the two-months-premature New Year's Eve fireworks show has ended, let's talk business.

If the "forfeit rule" is going into effect, our national team will be willing to play our first match against Halfassedstates, therefore making the group entirely fair (everyone gets 1 forfeit).

The game is scheduled to be played in Aquiliana, so that issue is irrelevant for this matchday.

I must say, I really like this idea. Therefore, if neither President KP nor co-host Eauz object before I scorinate tonight, I believe I will go with this method.

We've still got fireworks here in the UK, but they're for Bonfire Night. Funny how we celebrate somebody's attempt to blow Parliament to kingdom come - guess politics was just as popular then as it is now! Now we're just waiting for Christmas - oh wait, it started in July.

This in Now way a comaplaning but Kylaai is no where to be seen in nationstates I cant find him and Lykaia is due to die in 4 days which means they have have not even participated in the world throughtout the begening.

lykaia- due to die in 4 days

kylaai- Cant find him

maldunia- Also Has never went beyond the origin country, I going to search in every world cup and see scores

Its time for research

AS: Yes, it was all tounge in cheek. If you noted that same day, tehre were MANY upsets....like my on purpose cruddy puppet Vorpal Bunnies winning it's second match EVER...and then winning its third today.


*sigh*

I an officially proposing to the WCC the following:

If a country consistantly tries to invoke or participate in OOC arguments after being warned by either the Cup hosts or the WCC president, then the President has the right, if sufficient posts exists, to impose a 3 point penalty on said teams. This may be repeated for each incident during the cup.


Guys, i warned ya I would do it if this didn't quit. Enough's enough. Grow up or deal with some consequences. KP do I need to post this also in the WCC discussion thread?

and yes, this is a serious proposal.

lykaia- due to die in 4 days

"Most recent government activity: 10 days ago" <-- due to die in 18 days

kylaai- Cant find him

"Most recent government activity: 21 hours ago"

maldunia- Also Has never went beyond the origin country, I going to search in every world cup and see scores

Hmm? To be honest, I'm not certain what you mean by that.

That said, if anyone finds any more dead nations over the next 24 hours, please let me know. They will be handled in the same way as Halfassed.

Vil, SN - please chill.
Somalialand - The Communications Committee (myself, Rejistania and NEWI Cefn Druids) searches for ex-nations before and immediately after every cup's qualifiers.
Bedistan - I'd like to hear an official ruling from KP.

Bedistan - I'd like to hear an official ruling from KP.
KP is not president anymore TnUI declared himself president after an election, which made the in florida (for american citizens, who feel insulted by this: belarus) appear democratic. When I objected (TnUI and I had a vote tie), he declared me to be president (due to the voting-procedure, it is "ACTING president" in contrast to "president").


1st: Calm down, all of you! /me hands joints to everyone to improve the mood ;)

2nd: I myself prefer the deduction at the end of the qualifiers, because it is IMNSCO better for RPing. However I can be convinced otherwise via IRC.

Malduinia took part in the Baptism Of Fire (I remember because we beat them :)), and they RPed there. Maybe they don't know it's started yet!

Well I finally got my lucky result, although it couldn't have come at a worse time - straight after me complaining and Vilita being complained about. Was this really a fluke...not that I'm honestly bothered - a point's a point after all!

Somalialand - The Communications Committee (myself, Rejistania and NEWI Cefn Druids) searches for ex-nations before and immediately after every cup's qualifiers.

After careful consideration, I would like to offer my place on the communications committee to anyone else willing (should that be crazy?) enough to take my place. Unless no-one is, then I'll be quite happy carrying on.

Official Host Statement

After consulting with Eauz, we have changed the previous ruling with regard to Halfassedstates. The Halfassed team will continue to play normally until the end of qualifying. If they are in a qualifying position then, they will be disqualified and the fourth-place team will qualify in their stead.

Good ruling. As Chairman of the Communications Committee, I think we need some more hands on board. Anyone willing to join the Communications Committee should voice their interest.

WHat exactly does being on the committee entail. What do you do?

You do all the lackey work no one else wants to do :D

WHat exactly does being on the committee entail. What do you do?

We search for ex-nations before qualifying and after qualifying, and we (usually) send out telegrams with links to respective threads (RP, Score, Discussion etc) to every nation involved.

Aah, we're finally clicking into gear...about time too!

maserrat, A young artrogant team, its not they are arrogant is that they show off to other players, "How can a team expect a lose" Said the coach in furious manner, I mean they Expected a lose to vilita right before the match, they are not optimistic, and o tell you the truth, "we could still win the third place with a win against the two compatitors who are lykiai and The One red dot, but we are not expecting a third place finish due to the fact that the one red dot is getting little bit more flexblie, but we are not ruling out 3rd place finish"

There's a difference between being optimistic and being plain unrealistic. Any team not expecting to lose to Vilita is either stupid or somewhere near them in the rankings.

P.S. You contradicted yourself twice in this post:

We could still win the third place, but we are not expecting a third place finish, but we are not ruling out a 3rd place finish.

Let me guess...you don't expect to come third?

We search for ex-nations before qualifying and after qualifying, and we (usually) send out telegrams with links to respective threads (RP, Score, Discussion etc) to every nation involved.

I would not mind helping out if it is needed.

I would not mind helping out if it is needed.

(Bedi, Eauz, sorry for using the WC18 Discussion Thread instead of the main WC Discussion thread for this...)

You're in! We'll next check for ex-nations on MD14.

Come to think of it, you've contradicted yourself a further time:

Maserrat, a young arrogant team. They're not arrogant, they just show off.

Sorry for editing it. I had to spell arrogant correctly, use a capital letter on my name, use punctuation correctly, put words in a coherent order, etc.

By the way, if I am young what are you, foetal?

By the way, if I am young what are you, foetal?

He might mean young as in the average age of your players, or maybe he was just saying you were young in relation to the age of the World Cup rather than in relation to his team.

Either way, Somalialand, and no offense is meant here of course, seems to struggle with the english language and so any contradictions are probably accidental.

Just like to add my two cents, First of all, Somalialand I take as a joke, it's not possible for someone to be THIS clueless, so I'm assuming it's someone trying to be a joke, presumably someone who's been around for a few cups.

Anyway, I'm not here to start arguements, but if someone brings me into an arguement, I'm not going to sit back and watch. My AOL and MSN names are available to everyone, so I'm always open for discussion, I think it's retarded when people post arguements here just because they know everyone else will read it. Especially in RP and scores threads

Anyway, I've almost finished my next RP, it's of the 6-4 Lykaia match, couldnt' pass that one up:) I'll try and get it up soon

Don't see that scoreline too often, do you?

I don't know what Somalialand was talking about, and frankly I don't care. This completely unprovoked attack is obviously a cry for help and attention, so let's just ignore him/her.

Don't see that scoreline too often, do you?

You don't pay much attention in U21, do you?

You don't pay much attention in U21, do you?

If its not at least 3-3 in U21 the crowds want their money back. And you don't see many rich stadium owners in TnUI, unfortunately.

I meant in real-life. Everybody knows that U21 produces about 50 goals per group - I've been on the end of a 7-0 beating before. Should be dealing them out this time, though...

Don't see that scoreline too often, do you?

I don't know what Somalialand was talking about, and frankly I don't care. This completely unprovoked attack is obviously a cry for help and attention, so let's just ignore him/her.


First of all, All those misspellings came due to my tiredness at the time and how fast i was writing and second of all I do not know why you are attacking me in occ mode,

I have clearly stated that i would stick to IC mode in attacking people and i never attacked you personally

and to the refrence of how young you are, It was explaned by audioslave,

Now please dont ever attack me in occ because i have not, i have only attacked in a proffesional way while doing an IC post

It's OOC (Out Of Character)! Are you not used to the latin alphabet or are you dyslexic? If yes, I think it would be easier for us to accept your mistakes than now because now we assume you either don't know better, don't know much english or simply don't care.

IC, eh...?

*formulates evil plan*

OCC, OOC, its the same

OCC= Out of Cartoon character
OOC=Out of character

Who cares which one I use, I just Angered by this maserrat guy attcking me personally while I have nevr attacked him personally.

I mean did we all say we should not attack people in the OOC mode , We could see that if you go back couple of pages back

I have quit my other ramblings because they do not help me in this place, The only thing i ask for is bring you rage in th field and the IC mode all the rest should be kept personall and only by you.

if you decide to attack people personally, you would make everybody in here boring and give them reason to stop RPing, Which I do not want to do

(Bedi, Eauz, sorry for using the WC18 Discussion Thread instead of the main WC Discussion thread for this...)

You're in! We'll next check for ex-nations on MD14.

Alrighty, I'll be ready when its time for it.

Allow me to put in my two cents.
I don't believe Maserrat provoked you in any way, Somalialand, I think you should stop being over-sensitive about the comments we make about you - we always make comments that might cause people to over-react, but AFAIK you're the first to do so.

Aw, LE, despite the warnings and being told the PROPER place to put out of character concerns/thoughts/whatever, you went and posted on the scores thread again?!

Cripes - the last time you did that, I was the one who had rotten luck. :( Now I'll probably lose my next match or two. Thanks a lot.

Aw, LE, despite the warnings and being told the PROPER place to put out of character concerns/thoughts/whatever, you went and posted on the scores thread again?!

Cripes - the last time you did that, I was the one who had rotten luck. :( Now I'll probably lose my next match or two. Thanks a lot.

Have you read my post? If you havent, read it.

Yes, I read it. And it has no business being in the SCORES thread, as I feel is self-evident to anyone with two brain cells to knock together.

My evil plan worked. The trap was set, and a unknowing individual stepped right into it! Get's them every time!

My evil plan worked. The trap was set, and a unknowing individual stepped right into it! Get's them every time!

What are you talking about?

HAS isn't alive till he posts something on the forums. Anyone can bring a nation back to life as you did with Braz, LE. You could have easily posted that in here, I think the hosts should seriously consider docking points for twice breaking the rules.

EDIT 30-09-2004, 5:56 PM was his last post.

HAS isn't alive till he posts something on the forums. Anyone can bring a nation back to life as you did with Braz, LE. You could have easily posted that in here, I think the hosts should seriously consider docking points for twice breaking the rules.

EDIT 30-09-2004, 5:56 PM was his last post.
I was going to propose a three standings points penalty (or a forfeit of a match) for a second violation. I can see letting a first violation go with just a reminder since I MISTAKENLY posted on the Scores thread in the last World Cup. But doing it (and doing it knowingly) should have a tangible punishment.

I was going to propose a three standings points penalty (or a forfeit of a match) for a second violation. I can see letting a first violation go with just a reminder since I MISTAKENLY posted on the Scores thread in the last World Cup. But doing it (and doing it knowingly) should have a tangible punishment.I suggest we just let it go. Don't like the precedent it would set if we start deducting points for how/where/when someone posts. Also - given what LE posted (this time) - basically a notice that he feels there is an ERROR there because HAS seems to have been resurected - it seems he was trying to correct something in the scores thread. His post was as the Chairman of the Communications Committee, not as LE - and he did it with a very short, and apologetic, post.

Rejis,

I want my proposal for OOC fighting taken seriously. At least put to a vote.

People who have been warned have CONTINUED to do the things they were warned not to do...and will do so unless a penalty is given. As there is no rule for it, I have submitted one (2 pages ago) for consideration.

What are you talking about?

Look through your last RP, then think about which statement you used that I could possibly be talking about.

Here is TEN's proposed rule:

"If a country consistantly tries to invoke or participate in OOC arguments after being warned by either the Cup hosts or the WCC president, then the President has the right, if sufficient posts exists, to impose a 3 point penalty on said teams. This may be repeated for each incident during the cup."

I'm against it as it stands. It is too broad (what kind of "argument"?). It also allows the hosts to "warn" others - something I think should be reserved to the President/VP. If it were changed to read this way, I might be in favor.

"If a country or countries continue to provoke or participate in OOC arguments that are personal in nature after being warned by the WCC President and/or Vice President to stop, the President may choose to impose a 3 point penalty on said team(s). This may be repeated for each incident during the cup."

note: when i say that warning should be reserved to the Pres/VP, i mean warnings that could result in a penalty.

I favor Snubby's version. other comments?

Instead of the long passage "OOC arguments that are personal in nature," I would simply write, "personal attacks." But I like Snub's version.

I suggest we just let it go. Don't like the precedent it would set if we start deducting points for how/where/when someone posts. Also - given what LE posted (this time) - basically a notice that he feels there is an ERROR there because HAS seems to have been resurected - it seems he was trying to correct something in the scores thread. His post was as the Chairman of the Communications Committee, not as LE - and he did it with a very short, and apologetic, post.

I haven't seen the post yet, but let me again remind everyone - not just LE, but everyone - that believe it or not, I do have a reason for not wanting people to post in the scores thread. Yep, I do. Otherwise, I wouldn't have posted the notice.

Corrections to things in the scores thread should work just like all other OOC Cup-related comments and go in this very thread you're reading right now.

And for the record, Halfassedstates was still an ex-nation at the time I posted that table. The nation is alive now, and as soon as we can reasonably confirm that Halfassedstates is still controlled by the same person as before, they will be...how would you say it..."un-disqualified?"

Also, Avenging Altos is an ex-nation as of less than half an hour ago. The same rules will apply.

And for the record, Halfassedstates was still an ex-nation at the time I posted that table. The nation is alive now, and as soon as we can reasonably confirm that Halfassedstates is still controlled by the same person as before, they will be...how would you say it..."un-disqualified?"


Readmitted sounds much nicer, don't ya think?

I formally support SN38's friendly rewording of my rule proposal.

There is a reason I teach math and not English.

Here is TEN's proposed rule:

"If a country consistantly tries to invoke or participate in OOC arguments after being warned by either the Cup hosts or the WCC president, then the President has the right, if sufficient posts exists, to impose a 3 point penalty on said teams. This may be repeated for each incident during the cup."

I'm against it as it stands. It is too broad (what kind of "argument"?). It also allows the hosts to "warn" others - something I think should be reserved to the President/VP. If it were changed to read this way, I might be in favor.

"If a country or countries continue to provoke or participate in OOC arguments that are personal in nature after being warned by the WCC President and/or Vice President to stop, the President may choose to impose a 3 point penalty on said team(s). This may be repeated for each incident during the cup."

note: when i say that warning should be reserved to the Pres/VP, i mean warnings that could result in a penalty.

I do not know if ya give a **** about what i think but i think this guy is a Genious, Yeah I said that, he is a darn genious

*smacks him in the head and tells him* "*Shut the eff up*"

I also agree with what SN38 has rewritten. I think it is a good idea in keeping things civil.

I also support SN38's proposal. Sadly, it seems to be that it's needed.

As Chairman of the Communications Committee I implore the hosts to deduct 80 points from Somaliand (ceased to exist by deletion).

Next game we got the Masseratis, and we can see if they can do something other than make cars...excuse while I snicker to myself. Ah, that felt good. Well, hey should be a challenging team, but we should beat 'em.


That's exactly the reason I use the term Maserratians ;)

As Chairman of the Communications Committee I implore the hosts to deduct 80 points from Somaliand (ceased to exist by deletion).

Following the precedent made by the first nation to be DEATed during a World Cup (G Bugles), the 80-point deduction will be made.

That's exactly the reason I use the term Maserratians ;)
Muhwahaha! Well, the is a reason his title is all-around azzhole :P

Can you translate that so that it makes sense? ;)

Ok, Why iam knock out while Iam Still wining

I just whipped Lykaia and still aim knock out,

Yahooooooooooooooo Bedistan Iam still here

(Puppet of Somalialand,)

I will log in with somalialand Just about now

Uh-oh
Nation Not Found: "somalialand"

If possible, use your browser's BACK button to return and fix this.

I'm afraid that nation is gone. You're welcome to try again next World Cup, though.

I wonder how much pleasure was derived from:

Somalialand -66

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Iam back try adding "s" Behind Somalialand

In other words Write Somalialands

Oh, utter joy.

I've made a decision...defeat is annoying. [nomination for stupid comment of the day]

Kerry to win, even though I'm British!

Somalialand: The World Cup precedent is nations that cease to exist and that are not restored are dealt an 80-point penalty. This is not going to change.

Let me clarify, as a few teams are being a bit vague.

There are different penalties based on how a team vanishes.

1. If it ceases (i.e. it is not played for too long) then the country if qualified, is removed, and the 4th place team moves on.

2. If a team quits, then every match is forfeited with a 3-0 score for the other team. The team who quits is deducted 3 points per match.

3. If a country is deleted by a mod, then the team is penalized 80 points, regardless of the reason.

Yes, what I meant when I said cease to exist and not restored means it is deleted by mods. (Nations deleted for rule infringements are not restored)

I dont see any reason why Somalialand(s) can't carry on, theyre hardly Ziotah.

I dont see any reason why Somalialand(s) can't carry on, theyre hardly Ziotah.He was deleted for an abusive post. Someone who's DEATED does NOT deserve to continue to RP.

Someone who's DEATED does NOT deserve to continue to RP.

Why?

The United States of America have been deleted and they still play football(They were deleted for a couple of hours, but some guy called George just signed up again as 'The United States of Scaring Innocent People Into Giving You Power' last night)

Seriously, i don't see why he doesn't deseve to continue to RP. The same way that a footballer's personal life shouldnt stop them playing for their club.

I think they should be allowed to carry on RPing, what's the difference? Theres 3 matches left

Why?

The United States of America have been deleted and they still play football(They were deleted for a couple of hours, but some guy called George just signed up again as 'The United States of Scaring Innocent People Into Giving You Power' last night)

Seriously, i don't see why he doesn't deseve to continue to RP. The same way that a footballer's personal life shouldnt stop them playing for their club.Read the first sentence of what I wrote. He was deleted for an abusive post. It was hardly the first time he was abusive or insulting. He was warned repeatedly by the powers that be in World Cup organizing and by the NationStates moderators. A moderator deleted his account because he didn't listen to repeated warnings.

If a footballer broke a law that would merit his serving jail time, he should go to prison.

Its to my disgust to see a person treated like that but the rules are the rules and and one of my stupid F words got me out.

Well i was trying to accuse myself and they thought i was accusing someone lese.

Anyways In my frantic reaction to getting a news i have created somalialands and -somalia- which i will make sure they die out becuase i have no use for them.

At this point on I am the former somalialand and from now should be reffered to the THE FEDERATION OF HIIRAAN in short terms HIIRAAN

I dont what to say UF(Our delegate), please dont cancel the shipings of those 2 cds you said you will be sending, ah well i know you will send macromedia but i also requested another i still dont have an answer from you,

Ok People I am somalialand but with a new nation, not as active as before but i will try to get the schedule fit couple of rping(I was planning this but when my nation died it had more thouhgt from me)

HIIRAAN:

Hiiraan arose from the crash of somalialand and it will be active as much possiple

thank you
Khallid -at- Takbiri

The Bolded part is just personnnal okay so dont worry about it
I am wandering if can get accepted back to the communty of footballers since i have without worry broke the rules of both The world cup org and the forum rules,

It Brings sadness to my face to see what i worked so hard to achieve have been without frantic deleted without anyworry.

I hate to say this but if i ever had this chance to see the person who deleted my nation i would have argued with them till death came upon me



(sorry for the Old english, its just the formal they write on my part of the world )

If only you could master modern English...;)

ok i am out of the world i will accept that but can i please keep my Ranking and points or drop me back to the BoF and make me also compete in the Harmony cup to make it up

Let me make it simple for you:

Drop me from this cup

Give me back the old points

And make me compete in the harmony cup

Or

Drop me back to the BoF

and make me compete in the harmony cup.

This will help me get as much points as i lost in this Deletion process

ok i am out of the world i will accept that but can i please keep my Ranking and points or drop me back to the BoF and make me also compete in the Harmony cup to make it up

Let me make it simple for you:

Drop me from this cup

Give me back the old points

And make me compete in the harmony cup

Or

Drop me back to the BoF

and make me compete in the harmony cup.

This will help me get as much points as i lost in this Deletion process

No.


Somalialand loses it's 80 points. Somalialand keeps its own ranking, which is worse than piss with -66 Points. So you are lucky that you get your Rank reset. You don't get to compete in the Harmony Cup because it is an Invite Only for teams that participated in the World Cup, which you no longer have with your active nation. Theoretically this would still be considered a puppet nation (No?) And is as a new entity eligible for the next BoF. So you'll be starting over with a clean slate.

No.


Somalialand loses it's 80 points. Somalialand keeps its own ranking, which is worse than piss with -66 Points. So you are lucky that you get your Rank reset. You don't get to compete in the Harmony Cup because it is an Invite Only for teams that participated in the World Cup, which you no longer have with your active nation. Theoretically this would still be considered a puppet nation (No?) And is as a new entity eligible for the next BoF. So you'll be starting over with a clean slate.


Its Not about points Only, the -80 or -66 thing would not count. Vilita instead of being arrogant plase be more open to other peoples view, the tone of that thread was enough to convince me you were wrong

Yousee i have made over 100 or so post with somalialand, i have built a legitimate footballer with it, its not about the points but thy pride of giving me the opportunity to compete in the world once more

You seem frantic as i asked all of the points back, if you did not read the post i said a portation of it and let me work for my points in the harmony cup and te bof

You see the BoF was designed to help players to get into the game and the NS world cup, i did it once what is the need for it again, NONE

ANd the harmony cup was the place i was going to go to if a lost the 3 place finish which i was sure of, so why deny me the right to compete as the same country except with a diffrent name

please be open to other idea's truly i dont want to have rivals here but you disgust me in your tones and how you make yourself supirior to us, I want to tell you that we are all the same and we can all express our views, so please try to make us all welcome in here, I ask nothing more than that

Its Not about points Only, the -80 or -66 thing would not count. Vilita instead of being arrogant plase be more open to other peoples view, the tone of that thread was enough to convince me you were wrong


You have -66 Points right now. With only 9 points possible to gain, the best amount of points Somalialand could have is -57, which is far worse than Zero, the amount that a team starts out with. Since Rankings are relative to points earned in a competition, you are better off starting over anyway.


Yousee i have made over 100 or so post with somalialand, i have built a legitimate footballer with it, its not about the points but they pride of giving me the opportunity to compete in the world once more

Ok, then they can move their pride to the new nation, what do you want me to tell you, we have rules and they are going to be followed, no exception is going to be made for you.

You seem frantic as i asked all of the points back, if you did not read the post i said a portation of it and let me work for my points in the harmony cup and te bof

You can work for your points in the BoF. However, only nations that are participant in the 18th World Cup can be invited to the Cup of Harmony. Since you no longer have access to that account, you will not be able to accept that invitation and will not be able to compete in the Cup of Harmony, like I said, thats the rules, and they are not going to change for you.

Yousee the BoF was designed to help players to get into the game and the NS world cup, i did it once what is the need for it again, NONE

ANd the harmony cup was the place i was going to go to if a lost the 3 place finish which i was sure of, so why deny me the right to compete as the same country except with a diffrent name

First of all, do not assume that you were going to be in the Cup of Harmony. First you would have had to have been invited by the hosts, and to be honest, there are many potential hosts, myself included, that may have passed up sending an invitation to you. The precident in this situation is that the nation with the New name is considered a seperate entity, and it's past performances are not carried over. Like I've said, no exception will be made for you, You will NOT be in the Cup of Harmony.

please be open to other idea's truly i dont want to have rivals here but you disgust me in your tones and how you make yourself supirior to us, I want to tell you that we are all the same and we can all express our views, so please try to make us all welcome in here, I ask nothing more than that

You are welcome to participate with your new nation, and Maybe TEN will run the Eagle's Cup which I'm sure you can apply to enter, but as for the Cup of Harmony, there are rules regarding the event, and unfortunately they do not allow for your participation. You are more than welcome to enter the BoF and the next world cup.