NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: Is AMF stepping on insects again? Perhaps they should stay out from under his feet...

Although both sides in this conflict are currently stating that no nuclear devices will be used, Higera has found it necessary to prepare for the worst.

Currently, our ballistic missile silos are being put on high alert and our officers onboard Cav's Space Defense Station are monitoring the skies.


OOC: The missile fueling will be staggered so that there will always be at least 1/3 of our entire nuclear arsenal at our discretion.

It will go something like this:

Start: Group A (1/3 missiles) fueled
24 hours after start: Group B (1/3) fueled
48 hours after start: Group A defueled and maintained, Group C fueled
72 hours after start: Group B defueled and maintained, Group A fueled
96 hours after start: Group C defueled and maintained, Group B fueled

and etc. etc. until the situation warrants less nuclear threats

We are currently not in this war, but nonetheless, we request you do not do this. It will only make things worse, and possible cause nuclear war. Again, please, do not do this.

OOC: Since the IC part of this is in chaos, consider support for AMF to have been expressed by the military forces of Western Asia. WA territories worldwide are opened to AMF fleets, refugees, and forces.

In all honesty, I'm considering whether I should launch some ICBMs loaded with EMP-generating submunitions at the massive fleets off of AMF's coast. With the combined energy spike patterns and the (obviously necessary) tight proximity of the invading forces, it makes the elimination of all things electronic within the RF fleet quite tempting. Due to the clear possible resulting fight over whether a nuclear response to a non-lethal payload would ever be warranted, I'll have it known that Western Asia has disavowed any and all nuclear weapons and is party to at least 5 different anti-nuclear/nonproliferation treaties...public knowledge.

URGENT COMMUNIQUé
Military Headquarters in Esamopia City, Esamopia

Please note that we will vehemently oppose any plan to use any type of unconventional warfare, including but not limited to Nuclear, biological, chemical, or EMP strikes.

Not only is the government backing AMF, making any attack on Western Asia an easy task for our legislators to support, but we cannot accept any intervention of the non-conventional type in this conflict. Know that it will carry extreme repercussions.

We note with interest that you are opposed to the use of nuclear weapons, however, this will be a valid and necessary response to any EMP strike under the Prime Minister's rules of engagement. Please consider that we have never used nuclear weapons, consider their use to be quite atrocious and inexcusable, but we will do what we must if you drive us to it.

All of our nuclear silos are on full alert and shall be able to launch ICBM's or submarine based nuclear missiles at any time. Do not create a situation in which mutually assured destruction is a viable response. We urge you, do not launch any EMPs!" [/i]

-Deputy Prime Minister Antonio De Vega
Deputy Head of State

Vizion, we understand your concern, and you made a good point.

Be aware, international community, that we do not wish to cause a nuclear war. Our doctrine for nuclear aggression states that only if Higera or its forces (not its allies) are attacked with WMDs, they will be reciprocated in kind. Nuclear war is not our goal, but since we can only keep our missiles fueled for 48 hours maximum, we must begin now to ensure maximum readiness in the event of an attack on Higera or any Higeran assets.

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The NRSS Peoples Might had been ordered to stay on patrol while its sister ship, the NRSS Peoples Voice, was given permission to return to home waters.

It was now the job of the NRSS Peoples Might to take care of the surface, watch and report any threatning activity, and make damn sure that no one harmed The People.

However, the ten or so submarines still lingered in the area, including the three ICBM capable DELTA IV's, which were reading for return to home waters, and port, when ordered soon.

Although both sides in this conflict are currently stating that no nuclear devices will be used, Higera has found it necessary to prepare for the worst.

Currently, our ballistic missile silos are being put on high alert and our officers onboard Cav's Space Defense Station are monitoring the skies.


OOC: The missile fueling will be staggered so that there will always be at least 1/3 of our entire nuclear arsenal at our discretion.

It will go something like this:

Start: Group A (1/3 missiles) fueled
24 hours after start: Group B (1/3) fueled
48 hours after start: Group A defueled and maintained, Group C fueled
72 hours after start: Group B defueled and maintained, Group A fueled
96 hours after start: Group C defueled and maintained, Group B fueled

and etc. etc. until the situation warrants less nuclear threats

We are currently not in this war, but nonetheless, we request you do not do this. It will only make things worse, and possible cause nuclear war. Again, please, do not do this.

OOC: Since the IC part of this is in chaos, consider support for AMF to have been expressed by the military forces of Western Asia. WA territories worldwide are opened to AMF fleets, refugees, and forces.

In all honesty, I'm considering whether I should launch some ICBMs loaded with EMP-generating submunitions at the massive fleets off of AMF's coast. With the combined energy spike patterns and the (obviously necessary) tight proximity of the invading forces, it makes the elimination of all things electronic within the RF fleet quite tempting. Due to the clear possible resulting fight over whether a nuclear response to a non-lethal payload would ever be warranted, I'll have it known that Western Asia has disavowed any and all nuclear weapons and is party to at least 5 different anti-nuclear/nonproliferation treaties...public knowledge.

URGENT COMMUNIQUé
Military Headquarters in Esamopia City, Esamopia

Please note that we will vehemently oppose any plan to use any type of unconventional warfare, including but not limited to Nuclear, biological, chemical, or EMP strikes.

Not only is the government backing AMF, making any attack on Western Asia an easy task for our legislators to support, but we cannot accept any intervention of the non-conventional type in this conflict. Know that it will carry extreme repercussions.

We note with interest that you are opposed to the use of nuclear weapons, however, this will be a valid and necessary response to any EMP strike under the Prime Minister's rules of engagement. Please consider that we have never used nuclear weapons, consider their use to be quite atrocious and inexcusable, but we will do what we must if you drive us to it.

All of our nuclear silos are on full alert and shall be able to launch ICBM's or submarine based nuclear missiles at any time. Do not create a situation in which mutually assured destruction is a viable response. We urge you, do not launch any EMPs!" [/i]

-Deputy Prime Minister Antonio De Vega
Deputy Head of State

Point proven?

IC: Dr_Twist Troops in Bulgaria and Romania have Begun Sealing the Nation and have begun setting up massive defensive structures.

Presently only 8 Million Troops are in the 2 nations but that number is still forecasted to grow to 20 Million troops.

Most of our fleet in Automagfreek waters are home from a long and tiresom patrol. Some remain, however, to make sure the war does NOT escalate.

Here is the status of our Naval Forces:

Peoples Socialist Defense Navy
Classified NRSS for Nodea Rudav Socialist Sea

-Sea Surface Units-
x1 Sverdlov class Battlecruiser
-NRSS Battle Warrior
-Status: Homeland Defense

x2 Bismarck Class Experimental Battleship
-NRSS New Bismarck-(Normal Verson)
-Status: Commencing First Operation in Automagfreek Coastal Waters
-NRSS New Tirpitz-(Improved Verson)
-Status: Docked at Allied Port

x5 Modified Iowa Class Battleships
-NRSS Independence
-Status: Normal Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Titan Defender
-Status: Normal Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Rudavia
-Status: Docked at Port
-NRSS Peoples Might
-Status: Peacemaking Operations off the Coast of Automagfreek
-NRSS Peoples Voice
-Status: Docked at Port

x1 Orel Ul'yanovsk class Aircraft Carrier
-NRSS Trinity
-Status: Docked until further notice

x1 LHD-4 Alligator Experimental Attack Carrier
-NRSS Alligator
Status: CLASSIFIED OPERATION

-Sea Submerged Units-
x4 Akula I-Improved Nuclear Attack Submarine
-NRSS Reliance
-Status: Peacekeeping Operations off the coast of Automagfreek
-NRSS Defiance
-Status: Peacekeeping Operations off the Coast of Automagfreek
-NRSS Freedom
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen
-NRSS Triton Guardius
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen

x2 Akula II Nuclear Attack Submarine
-NRSS Reliant
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Relentless
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters

x2 Oscar II Cruise Missle Nuclear Submarine
-NRSS Socialist Protector
-Status: Peacekeeping Operations off the Coast of Automagfreek
-NRSS Socialist Democracy
-Status: Peacekeeping Operations off the Coast of Automagfreek

x3 Oscar Cruise Missle Submarine
-NRSS Comrade Malatose
-Status: Peacekeeping Operations off the Coast of Automagfreek
-NRSS Comrade Big Oscar
-Status: Peacekeeping Operations off the Coast of Automagfreek
-NRSS Comrade Russia
-Status: Peacekeeping Operations off the Coast of Automagfreek

x4 Kilo Class Submarine
-NRSS Comrade Kilo
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Socialism
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Big Brethren
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen
-NRSS Fat Kat the First
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen

x1 941 Typhoon Nuclear Submarine
-NRSS Behemoth
-Status: CLASSIFIED OPERATION

x4 667BDRM Dolphin DELTA IV Nuclear ICBM Missle Submarine
-NRSS Delta One
-Status: CLASSIFIED NUCLEAR OPERATION
-NRSS Delta Two
-Status: CLASSIFIED NUCLEAR OPERATION
-NRSS Delta Three
-Status: CLASSIFIED NUCLEAR OPERATION
-NRSS Delta Four
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen

x3 XS-02 Series Foxtrot-II Experimental Submarine
-NRSS Sea Fox
-Status: Peacekeeping Operations off the Coast of Automagfreek
-NRSS Sea Vixen
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen
-NRSS Foxtrot Three
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters

OOC: Esamopia, it would be beneficial to the intelligence of the entire crowd if you might notice the "OOC" at the top of my post...all you can know is that, at one time, I have used such weaponry against Arda-aligned forces in defense of Ell and that I have had favorable relations with AMF. You might know that WA likes to use EMPs against massed enemy forces with a large concentration of sensitive and expensive electronics systems so it could be a tactic that was expected of WA, but there is no IC reason to suspect any of my OOC plans.

Please note that the entire posting above, as it is here, is an OOC rambling...and EMP weapons do not fall into the same category as WMDs, since the destruction is precisely targeted against electronic systems (not people or people+property) and it usually counts as EW/ECM due to its effect...a review in definitions might be called for.

http://www.navart.com.au/images/BismarckPrEugenMD.jpg
NRSS New Bismarck Arrives in Automagfreek coastal waters to Commence First Operation of Peacekeeping

The telegraph coordinator sent the issue of support to AMF against RF in a possible attack immediately as he reached the device used to transmit this message. Within a few minutes, the Archduke's message was fully transmitted and relayed to AMF.

Dear Ruler of Automagfreek,

We of the Valerii wish to lend you our support in this coming conflict. An attack like this is truly unprovoked, and it has created somewhat of an entente with our relations - we too, were attacked unprovoked, but we are going to shine in our current conflict. The Crown Empire of Magnus Valerius plans to send an expeditionary force consisting of a corps of 120,000 men to aid in defense or engineering. They will be escorted by an armada of several ships and submarines - as many as 50 dreadnoughts and 65 submarines can be in this armada. We will only send the force at your whims, and if you refuse our offer to help you with this force, then it will not be taken as an insult to our nation.

The Automagfreek Expeditionary Corps, as it will be called, will consist of the following divisions, all with 10,000 men each:

Infantry:
- 3rd Royal Rifles
- 6th Sylvanans
- 7th Trikoupians
- 11th Lightning Rifles
- 21st Blue Wildcats
- 26th Imperial Architects

Cavalry:
- 12th Badenese Uhlans
- 13th Badenese Uhlans
- 4th Boyaragrad Cossacks

Artillery:
- 10th Big Berthas
- 14th Royal Artillery
- 15th Royal Artillery

We await your reply on your acceptance of our aid. Please request anything else from us if you need more aid in men, or need aid in fiscal matters, war material, or ships.

-The Valerian Diplomatic Office-

As the telegraph coordinator pondered the message he just had sent, he decided to head for Emperor Alexander I Basilicus to report it. When he entered the emperor's office, the smell of vodka was hinted in the air. The emperor sat there, his head buried on his desk. The death of his wife and three of his children had taken a serious toll on his health and well-being. The telegraph coordinator politely exited and decided to report to Archduke Bastilus instead.

Perhaps Corporal Jozef Radetzky will lead this expeditionary force, as he did in a previous war...

http://www.angelfire.com/empire2/empvalens/Alexander.PNG
Emperor Alexander I Basilicus
Emperor of Magnus Valerius
Overlord of the Valerian Mines, Generalissimo of the Fortress of Valeria, and Commander of the MVEF.

OOC: Esamopia, it would be beneficial to the intelligence of the entire crowd if you might notice the "OOC" at the top of my post...all you can know is that, at one time, I have used such weaponry against Arda-aligned forces in defense of Ell and that I have had favorable relations with AMF. You might know that WA likes to use EMPs against massed enemy forces with a large concentration of sensitive and expensive electronics systems so it could be a tactic that was expected of WA, but there is no IC reason to suspect any of my OOC plans.

Please note that the entire posting above, as it is here, is an OOC rambling...and EMP weapons do not fall into the same category as WMDs, since the destruction is precisely targeted against electronic systems (not people or people+property) and it usually counts as EW/ECM due to its effect...a review in definitions might be called for.

OOC:

My sincere apologies. For some odd reason (likely the late hour, it is now 2:27 AM here,) I did not see the "OOC." Please ignore that entire post and consider it as out of character (OOC)

I will stand by what was said, however, in as far as it suggests the Esamopian response to an EMP attack. We may legitimately consider the use of nuclear weapons, something we never thought would be done by us, but nontheless a real option. Any unfair (i.e. unconventional) attack shall be met with an appropriate or escalated response. If you wish to discuss this point further with me personally, please send a TM.

Sorry again, didn't see the OOC.

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/bismarck/art/pictures/artbismarck05a.jpg

[code:1:553384fc02]NRSS New Bismarck experincing rough conditions / Allowing steam to vent from Hydrogen Ractor / Titanium Fans working perfectly / Slowing pace to 30 knots in patrol zone / Continueing mission[/code:1:553384fc02]

my nation the Covanant will help you in any needs neasersy. We are
willing to help you if war is the final answer. Please in form me if you need my help, as i would like to Join your army.

OOC: Just out of curiousity, what MBT's are you using RF? T-80's I assume.

IC: Horizon Island calls for all sides to cease military action at this time. If this action continues, it shall bring about a world war, that could lead to the mass use of WMDs, and nuclear winter. This war benifits no one, as it could lead to the end of all life on this planet. A peaceful resolution MUST be found.

http://home.t-online.de/home/jgust/bism_fb.jpg

[code:1:c8502db878]Harsh Conditions over / Good sailin g ahead / Continueing monitering situation with NRSS Peoples Might / Can see the beauty even from here[/code:1:c8502db878]

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Is that really necessary?

crap...i SO cannot be bothered with reading all the pages...

can i have a sum up please?

im thinking of getting involved

crap...i SO cannot be bothered with reading all the pages...

can i have a sum up please?

im thinking of getting involved

<RF attacks AMF>
<lots of propaganda>
<TST attacks RF fleet>
<Lots of bitching>
<lots of big, unnecessary pictures>

OOC: To sum it up: RF launched cruise missiles against AMF's capital in an attempt to kill Damien D. AMF declared war, TST, myself and some others stepped in on AMF's side, and a few stepped in on RF's side. Now AMF and RF got into an argument about RF's roleplaying. Feel free to add to this if I missed something, anyone.

IC: The moment AMF's statement was broadcasted to the world, the forces the Brotherhood promised to Automagfreek began to assemble in Cairo's harbour awaiting shipping to AMF. 100.000 soldiers, 200 tanks, 500 Banshee's and 500 Apache's were flown to Automagfreek* to help repel the first Russian invaders, the rest of the promised forces** would arrive by ship. Along with all transport ships necessary to carry the troops to AMF, the fleet was the largest the Brotherhood had ever sent out. Thirteen aircraft carriers, fifty destroyers, thirty cruisers, twentyfive AEGIS cruisers, fifty submarines, all four Supremacy submarines the Brotherhood possessed, and ten battleships set out to Automagfreek.

OOC:

*Assuming RF hasn't surrounded AMF's island (it doesn't look like it) with AA-capable ships or aircraft carriers.

** In total, 2 million troops, including 100.000 elite troops, and some 25.000 tanks of all kinds. 2000 Banshee Attack Fighter/Bombers and some 1500 Apaches.

tag for later involvment.

OCC: I suggest this will not be the war thread. The War thread should be taken to International incidents. I will or someone should post that up. I think its best that Automagfreek posts up the topic in International incidents to signal if he is ready. Anyway we'll start again and place troops placements( I expect you to post your forces soon AMF, That is your mistake in your part). This topic is so far full of BS and spam. No n00bs allowed!
And if you want to be part of the war you should under go permission from Auto if you want to be on his side or from me if you want to be on my side.
ICC: Russian Forces is preparing its homeland for attacks and basically everything there is on defcon 2.


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OOC: That's fine with me.

OOC:

Fine with me too. Let's just do the damn war.

IC:

The attacking force, led by General Williams, moves into Ukraine. There, they set up their bases, including several air force bases, where the planes can take off and land.

A small naval force of 5 destroyers, 2 battleships, and an aircraft carrier move into the frigid waters of the Barent Sea, prepared to carry out their mission at any moment.

At the same time, Emperor Sean May makes an announcement to the world.

Good morning. Russian Forces has ignored our threats, and did not take advantage of the oppurtunity to stand down. Therefore, he will be destroyed. Our troops are already in the country of Ukraine, a place that has been very friendly to us in the past. Our navy in the waters above Russian Forces. We are ready to attack. Please understand that our great Empire is at war, so you, the citizens, will have to make sacrifices to help with the war efforts. But, our country is strong, not because of our army, not because of our weapons of mass destruction, but because of our citizens. Good day, and God Bless.

Emperor May walks away from the podium, immensely satisfied with his speech.

OCC: Comrade!

Number 1. Ukraine is under my control, including moldova.

Number 2. Like AMF said to me you can not place your forces on my borders unless you are or have permission from another nation (A nation that is currently in on my borders) to place forces there.

Number 3. I suggest that or you and GDODAD or whatever better start up a nice naval invasion of their own.

ICC: That is unwise. You are just going to bring your own blood upon the snow.

The Incorporated States of Umnali as a new member of the UN would be intrested in seeing this conflict being resolved with out any more bloodshed

A peacekeeping force of 20,000 could be transported to the area ASAP to keep the peace. Although small, the force will be well equiped and if need be be backed up by M1A1AB Tanks and Aurora Fighter/Bombers.

The Peacekeeping force is ccurently being prepped for departure, through Air and Sea transportation, we can have the force in the area within 4 days. Umnali pledges to remain neutral in this conflict despite previous statements by our sometimes erratic leader.

If any more forces are required, the UN only has to ask.

OOC:

1). What's the closest country to you that's not under your control? ;)

2). They were not on your borders, they had just entered Ukraine from the west and were setting up camp there, but that was before you told me Ukraine was under your control.

3). I don't have a very good navy so.... :wink:

IC:

We will see about that Russian scum.

somewhere in neutral waters close of AMF shore a convoy of RF ships can be seen in the distance

~secure transmition to AMF~

to AMF government, from behalf of our supreame ruler and commander Warzu, we wish to participate in this war,

our involvement in this war will entail convoy attacks, night attacks, sneak attacks and submarine warfare

if you do not wish us to take part in this engagement fine, we will stay in neutral waters and protect our interests

~end of transmition~

forces

18 submarines of classified new stealth class
12 cruisers
3 aircraft carriers, each with 40 f-18s and 8 warthogs
6 frigates with heli-pod attachments with attack chinooks
4 battle ships
20 raider class water platforms (these are basically water guns)(guns that float on water)

The Incorporated States of Umnali as a new member of the UN would be intrested in seeing this conflict being resolved with out any more bloodshed

A peacekeeping force of 20,000 could be transported to the area ASAP to keep the peace. Although small, the force will be well equiped and if need be be backed up by M1A1AB Tanks and Aurora Fighter/Bombers.

The Peacekeeping force is ccurently being prepped for departure, through Air and Sea transportation, we can have the force in the area within 4 days. Umnali pledges to remain neutral in this conflict despite previous statements by our sometimes erratic leader.

If any more forces are required, the UN only has to ask.

im in UN please do not get anyone involved in this....20,000 troops will be splattered across the land with one firing session from wither side....

realy please stay put of this

we understand, maybe when our country gets bigger we can take a more pro-active role

for now maybe some large donations to the UN and those affected by the war would be enough

we understand, maybe when our country gets bigger we can take a more pro-active role

for now maybe some large donations to the UN and those affected by the war would be enough

just help with cleaning up after the battles are done and either side wins/loses

its a much preferable job......

so when "officially" does this war begin

OOC:

I think we're still waiting on Melkor.

This could start the next world war if huge organizations and powerful nations keep joining up.

This could start the next world war if huge organizations and powerful nations keep joining up.


OOC:

Is it just me, or does it seem like every world war involves GDODAD and Russian Forces? :wink:

OOC:

1). What's the closest country to you that's not under your control? ;)

2). They were not on your borders, they had just entered Ukraine from the west and were setting up camp there, but that was before you told me Ukraine was under your control.

3). I don't have a very good navy so.... :wink:

IC:

We will see about that Russian scum.

Me. I Control Bulgaria and Romania

OOC:

Mind if our troops set up base in Romania, Doc?

OOC:

Mind if our troops set up base in Romania, Doc?

send me a Private msg.

OOC:

You've got mail. ;)

This could start the next world war if huge organizations and powerful nations keep joining up.


OOC:

Is it just me, or does it seem like every world war involves GDODAD and Russian Forces? :wink:

I was involved in WWIV. I was an ally of only Drum Gods and yet Russian Forces invaded me for being a GDODAD member. The problem was that I wasn't a GDODAD member, so the GDODAD wouldn't even help me. That's the last major war I entered in (except for maybe the Steel Butterfly civil war, but that's still setting up). That's why I'm hesitating to join right now. I'd like to get revenge upon Russian Forces, yet I am not directly allied with most nations still involved.

Don't make me haunt you nanakaland.

OOC:

Yes, yes...I believe I was involved in WW5, but under a different identity. I was in the GDODAD and I fought on their side. I believe it was against Russian Forces, also.

OOC2:

Russian Forces, I'm going to put my troops in AMF-controlled Greece.

Hope you don't mind, AMF. :wink:

IC:

The troops arrive in the beautiful country of Greece, where they set up camp. Air force bases and regular military bases are set up around the country, so that they may assist in the assault on Russia. The naval forces are still located in the Berant Sea, waiting for their orders. The mood is very tense as they prepare for war....

OOC3:

I'm not doing my best RPing today, but you get the picture. :wink:

If i remember Rightly AMF Controls greece

Hmmm i didn't know that. To Scud or not to Scud? That is the question.

Are we still waiting on Melkor or something? He never posted...

Hmmm i didn't know that. To Scud or not to Scud? That is the question.

I remember it from the last ADK war, AMF did a massive invasion of Greece and has had control of it since.

Lucky for me I ordered 20 Million troops into Bulgaria/Romania a while ago there all there now.

4 Million Troops has been Ordered to the Greek/ Bulgarian Border to Seal the border and put up defenses.

thats wise. If hell breaks loose you know what to do.

thats wise. If hell breaks loose you know what to do.

IC: dw we are well prepared for any onslaught.

OOC:

Once again, just so you know, here are the troop numbers in AMF-controlled Greece:

5 million troops
300 F-15s*
200 F-16s*
30 B-52s*
20 B-1s*
15 B-2s*
5,000 T-72 tanks
3,500 T-90 tanks
2,500 M1A2 Abram tanks
5 destroyers**
3 battleships**
1 aircraft carrier**


*Will fly from air force bases in Greece

**In Berant Sea

If needed these forces can be reinforced.

looks like the mediterranian fleet will have fun.

IC: 12 Million Dr_Twist Troops and Equipment have Been Ordered to the Romanian Ukrainian Border so the troops can flow into Russia if they are needed in an Emergency.

Don't make me haunt you nanakaland.

Actually, since then I've founded the Legion of Defence (LoD). I'm one of their most important Council members. If you were to attack me, you'd get the following nations against you* (all LoD Protectors):

Anthonycha
Automastan
Bonstock
Elizabethshire
Eriopia
Euroslavia
Exetonia
Exonerate
Falastur
Langham
Last Anarchy Order, the
Liberated Asia
Linux United
Nanakaland
Phyrric
Plasmagod
San Texario
Shildonia
Unum Veritas

*With the exception of LoD members that are also allied with you. The allies of both of us would probably remain neutral.

P.S. Do you want to send an ambassador nation from your alliance? I'm hoping of improving diplomatic relations with old rivals. Click here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118324).

Again i must say a wise move. I have a feeling they'll want a pice of Russia first.

Don't make me haunt you nanakaland.

Actually, since then I've founded the Legion of Defence (LoD). I'm one of their most important Council members. If you were to attack me, you'd get the following nations against you* (all LoD Protectors):

Anthonycha
Automastan
Bonstock
Elizabethshire
Eriopia
Euroslavia
Exetonia
Exonerate
Falastur
Langham
Last Anarchy Order, the
Liberated Asia
Linux United
Nanakaland
Phyrric
Plasmagod
San Texario
Shildonia
Unum Veritas

*With the exception of LoD members that are also allied with you. The allies of both of us would probably remain neutral.

P.S. Do you want to send an ambassador nation from your alliance? I'm hoping of improving diplomatic relations with old rivals. Click here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118324).

Interesting that i have members among them. Anyway i don't want war with you. You're no longer a GDODAD scum.

The Tasty Foods Air Force in Greece has been ordered to patrol the country and be on the look out for enemy forces. Planes will take turns patrolling, all of them patrolling in groups of 5.

yet I am not directly allied with most nations still involved.

yet, you are allied with me so dont let RF disuade you

The Tasty Foods Air Force in Greece has been ordered to patrol the country and be on the look out for enemy forces. Planes will take turns patrolling, all of them patrolling in groups of 5.

Is your country's main income fast food?

Interesting that i have members among them. Anyway i don't want war with you. You're no longer a GDODAD scum.

I was never a GDODAD member. I was allied to Drum Gods through another alliance. However, I admit that I was probably asking for the invasion with all of my threats.

The Tasty Foods Air Force in Greece has been ordered to patrol the country and be on the look out for enemy forces. Planes will take turns patrolling, all of them patrolling in groups of 5.

Is your country's main income fast food?

Nope. Why do you ask?

scum

yup, thats you...

Interesting that i have members among them. Anyway i don't want war with you. You're no longer a GDODAD scum.

I was never a GDODAD member. I was allied to Drum Gods through another alliance. However, I admit that I was probably asking for the invasion with all of my threats.

Your threats made me feel i would have been attacked by you eventually so i thought i had to strike first. However i wish for peace.

damn, this has escalated into one big bithcing match...

The Tasty Foods Air Force in Greece has been ordered to patrol the country and be on the look out for enemy forces. Planes will take turns patrolling, all of them patrolling in groups of 5.

Is your country's main income fast food?

Nope. Why do you ask?

Just the name... :P

scum

yup, thats you...

Make something of that when i laugh at your corpses.

when i laugh at your corpses.

damn, how many bodies do i have?

i know i have a vaster superior intellect than you, but shurly i have only 1 body

if you have the intelligence maybe you would figure out that im pointing out against your soldiers.

Emperor May has announced that there will be a draft. Any man able to fight must fight for his country. An additional:

20 million troops
500 F-16s
300 F-15s
25 B-52s
15 B-1s
10 B-2s
10,000 T-72s
7,500 T-90s
5,000 M1A2 Abrams
20 destroyers
10 battleships
3 aircraft carriers

:have been ordered to Greece, bringing the total to:

25 million troops
600 F-15s
700 F-16s
55 B-52s
35 B-1s
25 B-2s
15,000 T-72 tanks
11,000 T-90 tanks
7,500 M1A2 Abram tanks
25 destroyers
13 battleships
4 aircraft carriers

OOC: woops perhaps i shouldn't write this and history coursework at the same time

"emmeline pankhurst was i know i have a vaster superior intellect than you, but shurly i have only 1 body@


woops

if you have the intelligence maybe you would figure out that im pointing out against your soldiers.

then it should've been youre soldiers corpses

Interesting that i have members among them. Anyway i don't want war with you. You're no longer a GDODAD scum.

I was never a GDODAD member. I was allied to Drum Gods through another alliance. However, I admit that I was probably asking for the invasion with all of my threats.

Your threats made me feel i would have been attacked by you eventually so i thought i had to strike first. However i wish for peace.

Sorry. I was just threatening with defense. I was saying that if you'd attack Drum Gods, then I'd open hostilities. Just remember, my threats are much worse sounding then my army and actual foreign policy. Since then, I've become like Switzerland - staying neutral from most conflicts.

3 "A" class suber-subs cruise silently and stealthily through the water, approaching the convoy of RF's ships mentioned earlier

commander "alright men lets give these punks a scare, load port tubes 1-4 and fire them all, then haul ass out of hear"

under-commander "rodger that sir"

the submarines come to 3oom's of the ships current positions and open fire, launcing 12 missiles in quick succesion at the fleet and then slowly turned around then beat the hell outta there

Dr_Twist SSBN Submarines have Begun testing SLBM's in the Sea's and Oceans around Russia.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/slbm-dvic420.jpg

wait!

5 million troops will be moved to the Greek/Romanian border to help defend the border against Dr_Twist forces in case they decide to invade Greece and to able us to attack more quickly if needed.

It is expected to take a month to reach the border.

awww dammit it dont work...


yes i am very bored i just spent 5 mins trying to upload a img from my comp with a person sat ontop of the missile going WEEEE...


:):):)

entire army

6.5 millian troops (support and logistics included)
2 millian fighters (broken down into divisions and tank squadrons)
500,000 airforce (roughly 18 per plane)
2 millian navy (also includes 600,000 assult marines)
2 millian field personnel (staff, logistics medics, workers, etc)


Fighters/Attack Aircraft :

- Tornado GR.1/GR.4 (Mid-Life Update programme) (300
- Tornado F3s (250
- Jaguar GR3/3A (100
- Harrier GR7 (400
- Eurofighter Typhoon (250
- JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) (300

Transport & Tanker Aircraft :

- Hercules C1/C3 (1,235
- Hercules C4/C5 (1,000
- C-17A Globemaster (100
- Tristar C2/K1/KC1 (60
- VC10 C1K/K3/K4 (10

Surveillance & Patrol Aircraft :

- Sentry AEW1 (1,000
- Astor (ASTOR AIRBORNE STAND-OFF RADAR) (100
- Canberra PR9 (20
- Nimrod MRA4 Maritime Reconnaissance and Attack aircraft (500

Helicopters :

- Chinook HC2 (400 (for personnel transport)
- Puma HC1 (200
- Sea King HAR3 (100
- Merlin HC3 (60

Armoured Vehicles :

- Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (600
- Challenger 1 Main Battle Tank (120
- FV 101 CVR(T) Scorpion (400
- Saxon APC (600 (troop assult)
-FV 432 APC (100
-Warrior Mechanised Combat Vehicle (600
- MRAV (Multi-Role Armoured Vehicle) (100
- FCLV ( Future Command and Liaison Vehicle ) (100

Artillery :

-105mm Light Gun (1,500
-AS90 155mm Self Propelled Howitzer (600
- MLRS (345

Army Air Corps

Helicopters :

-Gazelle AH Mk.1 (450
-Lynx Mk.7/Mk.9 Utility Helicopter (350
- WAH-64 Longbow Apache (350

Aircraft Carriers :

- Invincible class VSTOL carriers (they arent INVINCIBLE :roll: (10
- Future Aircraft Carrier CVF (12

Destroyers :

- Type 42 Destroyers (78
- Daring class (Type 45) air defense destroyers (45 :)

Frigates :

- Duke class (Type 23) frigates (120
- Broadsword Class (Type 22) Frigates (80

Submarines :

- Vanguard class ballistic missile submarines (nuclear powered) (10
- Trafalgar class submarines (nuclear powered) (28
- Swiftsure class submarines (nuclear powered) (8
- Astute class submarines (nuclear powered) (4

Amphibious Ships :

- Ocean amphibious assault ship (1,000
- Fearless amphibious transport dock (1,250
- Albion class amphibious transport docks (670

MINE COUNTERMEASURE VESSELS :

- Hunt class mine countermeasures vessels (20
- Sandown class minehunters (10

AIRCRAFT OF THE NAVY :

- SEA HARRIER FA2 (100
- Sea King ASW (12
- Sea King AEW (10
- Sea King Mk4 (40
- Lynx Mk8 (6
- Merlin (5

numbers will be posted later

this is Land Sea and Air forces

OOC: Melkor still hasn't replied. Oh well.

I think we will need several referees in this war to prevent godmodding and bitching. I'll post a thread requesting refs, and I'll link it.

OOC:

Good idea.

We give you 8 million men to back you up and 2 million cloned men trained only to kill commies. Use them at your will the death count can't be high enough when fighting the commies.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118358

We give you 8 million men to back you up and 2 million cloned men trained only to kill commies. Use them at your will the death count can't be high enough when fighting the commies.

You offer your entire population, including women, children, and elderly, plus 2 million you don't have? That's a godmode (cheat).

The Fiefdom of GreenMan is a small, economically powerful nation, renowned for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 8 million are ruled with an iron fist by the corrupt, dictatorship government, which oppresses anyone who isn't on the board of a Fortune 500 company. Large corporations tend to be above the law, and use their financial clout to gain ever-increasing government benefits at the expense of the poor and unemployed....

We give AutoMag 7 million men that are trained pilots, for him to use in any way against the communists.

We give AutoMag 7 million men that are trained pilots, for him to use in any way against the communists.

Your population is now 9 million in the negative. That includes women, children, and elderly.

Let's hope you ment thousands.

We give AutoMag 7 million men that are trained pilots, for him to use in any way against the communists.

We appreciate your good intentions, but you don't have that many men in your military.

ooc: i am assuming this will be modern day/near future.

ooc: i am assuming this will be modern day/near future.

i bloody well hope so!

i've just posted stats for my modern army not my futuristic!

ooc: i am assuming this will be modern day/near future.

You're still around? I haven't seen you in months.

OOC: This might go Future seeing the combatants...

OOC: This might go Future seeing the combatants...

I have a modern military. Fortunately, I also have a space fleet for Futuristic RPs. Unfortunatly, I am currently using the space fleet in another RP.

entire army (well, for the defence of AMF homeland dont get any stupid ideas of attacking me...i have 3* this number in home defence...)

6.5 millian troops (support and logistics included)
2 millian fighters (broken down into divisions and tank squadrons)
500,000 airforce (roughly 18 per plane)
2 millian navy (also includes 600,000 assult marines)
2 millian field personnel (staff, logistics medics, workers, etc)


Fighters/Attack Aircraft :

- Tornado GR.1/GR.4 (Mid-Life Update programme) (300
- Tornado F3s (250
- Jaguar GR3/3A (100
- Harrier GR7 (400
- Eurofighter Typhoon (250
- JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) (300

Transport & Tanker Aircraft :

- Hercules C1/C3 (1,235
- Hercules C4/C5 (1,000
- C-17A Globemaster (100
- Tristar C2/K1/KC1 (60
- VC10 C1K/K3/K4 (10

Surveillance & Patrol Aircraft :

- Sentry AEW1 (1,000
- Astor (ASTOR AIRBORNE STAND-OFF RADAR) (100
- Canberra PR9 (20
- Nimrod MRA4 Maritime Reconnaissance and Attack aircraft (500

Helicopters :

- Chinook HC2 (400 (for personnel transport)
- Puma HC1 (200
- Sea King HAR3 (100
- Merlin HC3 (60

Armoured Vehicles :

- Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (600
- Challenger 1 Main Battle Tank (120
- FV 101 CVR(T) Scorpion (400
- Saxon APC (600 (troop assult)
-FV 432 APC (100
-Warrior Mechanised Combat Vehicle (600
- MRAV (Multi-Role Armoured Vehicle) (100
- FCLV ( Future Command and Liaison Vehicle ) (100

Artillery :

-105mm Light Gun (1,500
-AS90 155mm Self Propelled Howitzer (600
- MLRS (345

Army Air Corps

Helicopters :

-Gazelle AH Mk.1 (450
-Lynx Mk.7/Mk.9 Utility Helicopter (350
- WAH-64 Longbow Apache (350

Aircraft Carriers :

- Invincible class VSTOL carriers (they arent INVINCIBLE (10
- Future Aircraft Carrier CVF (12

Destroyers :

- Type 42 Destroyers (78
- Daring class (Type 45) air defense destroyers (45

Frigates :

- Duke class (Type 23) frigates (120
- Broadsword Class (Type 22) Frigates (80

Submarines :

- Vanguard class ballistic missile submarines (nuclear powered) (10
- Trafalgar class submarines (nuclear powered) (28
- Swiftsure class submarines (nuclear powered) (8
- Astute class submarines (nuclear powered) (4

Amphibious Ships :

- Ocean amphibious assault ship (1,000
- Fearless amphibious transport dock (1,250
- Albion class amphibious transport docks (670

MINE COUNTERMEASURE VESSELS :

- Hunt class mine countermeasures vessels (20
- Sandown class minehunters (10

AIRCRAFT OF THE NAVY :

- SEA HARRIER FA2 (100
- Sea King ASW (12
- Sea King AEW (10
- Sea King Mk4 (40
- Lynx Mk8 (6
- Merlin (5

looks like the mediterranian fleet will have fun.

OOC: You have a fleet in the Mediterranian? I control Africa, and my bigass fleet just left the Cairo ports...

Prime Minister Larry Strykert goes into a fit of swearing, until he is calmed down by a Who CD.

The LRR government tries desperately to contact the governments involved. What LRR could never understand is why people could act like they do when a war seems about to happen. Perhaps robots are better than humans. More compassionate, anyway. *Irony*

The LRR space fleet soon arrives in force over earth, with a full 50 Camden class destroyers, about 2.5 times that number in torpedo boats and attack frigates, five hospital ships, and one battlecarrier. They put themselves at the halfway point between AMF and RF space over their nations.

Meanwhile, LRR's modern-tech flotilla mobilizes out of Gdansk. The core of the fleet is the single invincible-class carrier, and it is surrounded by a number of frigates and a cloud of corvettes and patrol boats. They break off into three groups, one headed to the edge of AMF waters, one to the edge of RF waters, and one, along with the carrier and its compliment of somewhat outdated Sea Harriers and Sea Kings, stays out further at sea, under the umbrella of the longest range LRR patrol and marinetime attack aircraft. Su-34s make frequent overpasses of the fleet.

Message To The International Community:

LRR would like to announce the creation of containment zones around Automagfreek and Russian Forces. All forigen military ships entering their national waters will be asked to turn back, in hopes of preventing further conflict. We ask all nations, especially those who would participate in this war, to please honor this blockade and not prompt even further conflict. As well as this, an LRR fleet has been dispatched over earth and will move to end any fighting that may occur there. We also ask that you please honor their intervention, as it is for your own good. Any military vessels that engage in combat at sea, especially between AMF and RF, will be dispersed by LRR naval assets. We are sure our close associates ViZon and Aztec National League will back us up on this, but if you don't we are open to suggestions, as always.

Thankyou for your cooperation~Minister of Forigen Affairs Henry Gorbachev

LRR Fleet:

Group A (AMF blockade)

20x Gepard Mk. II Patrol Boats
5x Vosper 2 Corvettes
4x Various Reconnisance Trawlers
6x Gotland Class Electic Attack Submarines
2x Alpha Class Attack Submarines
3x Fearless Class Trimiran Frigates
1x Trimiran Battleship
20x Lynx IIIs
10x Sea Knigs

Group B (Further out to sea)

25x Gepard Mk. II Patrol Boats
12x Vosper 2 Corvettes
7x Gotland Class Electric Attack Submarines
4x Fearless Class Trimiran Frigates
4x Broadsword Class Frigates
2x Slava Class Cruisers
1x Invincible Class Aircraft Carrier
20x Sea Harrier Mk. IIIs
30x Lynx IIIs
15x Sea Kings

Group C (RF Blockade)

20x Gepard Mk. II Patrol Boats
5x Vosper 2 Corvettes
5x Gotland class Electric Attack Submarines
5x Broadsword Class Frigates
10x Lynx IIIs

Aircraft in 3 hour flight range of LRR forces:

40x Su-47IIIs
60x Su-34s
20x Tornado IDSs
30x A-6IIs

looks like the mediterranian fleet will have fun.

OOC: You have a fleet in the Mediterranian? I control Africa, and my bigass fleet just left the Cairo ports...

lol the fun part is the swimming after the sinking :)

(OOC: JA, those ships had better be a large majority of your navy and airforce, because otherwise those figures are just absurd.

Also, a couple notes on RF's Shkval torpedos:

1. There is no known way to guide a torpedo at supercavitational speeds. There is a guided variant of the Shkval, but it must slow down to more normal speeds in order to search.)

2. The loud noise and large gas bubble created by a supercavitating torpedo like the Shkval mean that it can be detected from much farther away. Thus, even though it moves faster than a standard torpedo, the amount of time a ship will have to take evasive maneuvers will only be slightly decreased.)

Does Melkor even know that this is going on?

OOC:

Where is this war taking place? If I am to help Comrade Brethren Russian Forces with my currently stationed ships and subs, where must I go to do so?

(OOC: JA, those ships had better be a large majority of your navy and airforce, because otherwise those figures are just absurd.

yes, they are they are basically 2/5 of my fleet

OOC:

Fools, all of you.

For The People have spoken and I have acted, War on The Blue Order has been declaared and my Bravest of Brave in these cursed waters are heading to show the MIGHT and POWER upon those who would SUPRESS THE WILL AND VOICE OF THE PEOPLE.

I shall not post here again, I promise those whom have seen me unfit to be here.

I want to blow up something.

When are we going to get going?

The General Secretary of Soviet Malatose,Zepplin Lotov has confirmed that all Soviet Troops within Malatose have been put on the highest alert which is Defcon 5.Soviet Military Generals,Airforce Commands and High Naval Commanders are now reviewing battle tactics with there forces.Also the ADM(Air-Defense Ministry) has placed all the nations Anti-Missile Systems online.

The Following Soviet Fleets have been deployed to Russia for possible action.

1st Soviet Fleet
2 Orel-II Class Carriers
9 Kirov Class Cruisers
6 Krasina Class Guided Missle Cruisers
5 Kresta Class Cruisers
5 Sovremenny Class Guides Missile Destroyers
6 Udaloy Class Guided Missile Destroyers
10 Bora Class Corvettes
15 Molniya Missile Boats
16 Neustrashimy Class Frigates
3 Krival Class Frigate
4 Oscar II Submarines
4 Oscar I Submarines
8 Kilo Class Submarines
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OOC: Nodea, it's in Freekian waters (i.e. off the Automagfreek coast). You wouldnt've been able to track my subs but I'll let you off.
Half a day an eight pages erupt...These are definatly my least-favorite type of RP...I've just read every page up till now, but all the bitching has made me forget what's actually happening in relation to my forces!!!
RF, are the ships you mentioned surface or space? Oh, and losses from the torp. attack? Oh, and I'm assuming your Shkvals aren't nuclear? I doubt you'd vapourise your own fleet.
IC:
Ineffable High Command
"Russian bombers incoming, with a Mig escort."
"Meh. Activate the SAMs, dispatch defensive fighters, alert the defence satellites. Have them dispatch Jovian Lightning fighters and Phoenixes to intercept as well."
"It appears they are heading for the ports."
"Hmm. Perhaps this is a chance to use our new carrier. This will be interesting. Oh, ensure the First Fleet is protecting the ports as well, in case of a freak accident."

Ineffable Waters, off the coast of The Silver Turtle.
Towards the enemy aircraft flew an armada of fighters. As the aircraft began getting missile locks, from high orbit a second attack wave came. Spacegoing fighter craft and atmospheric attack craft descended almost vertically, firing off missiles, bullets and lasers into the enemy, the Ineffable craft diving straight through the Russian craft mainly aiming for the bombers. As they wheeled around underneath and began another attack, this time vertically from underneath the jet fighters broke formation and swarmed around attacking the remaining Russian craft mopping up.

Freekian Waters
The submarines were suprised at the rapid response from the Russians. The enemy torpedoes slammed into three of the submarines, one of which was destroyed. The explosion further damaged another submarine. The three submarined not too heavily damaged ducked and weaved their way through the Russian sub nets, glad there was little way they could be tracked. The damaged remaining submarine, knowing they had little chance of survival, fired off all their ammunition. Twenty cruise missiles sped upwards to the Russian fleet above. Countless torpedoes swarmed towards the Russian subs, bringing death to the Commie enemies of The Empire.

The Ineffable Armada, International Waters
"General Whang sir. It appears LRR forces have blockaded both Russian and Freekian waters, in order to prevent further military deployments."
"Bugger. Let me see the forces. Hmmm...It's no problem, but I don't really want to have to fight them if it can be avoided. Radio the LRR fleet, tell them we don't want to fight them unneccessarily, but if they attempt to prevent us from reaching Russian waters we will take the necessary measures.
And what's this? A Russian mediterrainian fleet? Moving near Freekian Greece? Hmm...have the Ineffable Iraqui Gulf Fleets counterattack."

Above Russian Forces
"Admiral, Russian ships moving to intercept us."
"Hmm. Have the fleets assume a defensive position. Also I want the mech and dropship carriers to deploy the first wave immediately. How many troops do we have ready for the first dropship deployment wave?"
"Erm, 80,000 sir. And 1,000 mechs."
"Excellent."

Above RF
Thousands of red/gold streaks began crossing the Russian skies. Below, Russians looked up, unsure as to whether this was good or bad. But for them, it was very bad indeed. Escorted by hundreds of fighters, 2,000 Silver Shell dropships, 500 J.E.D.I. mechas, 200 Hellfire mechas and 300 Gold class mechas were descending upon the Kremlin. Dropships smashed into it, demolishing parts of it only to fill the rest of it with troops. The mechs unfurled from the cocoons that protected them during reentry, and then began consolidating their position. The Ineffable forces were setting up a defensive perimeter around the centre of the city. Russian troops were quickly mown down by minigun fire from the mechas and tanks were annihilated by the plasma blades of the J.E.D.I. mechs, the cannons from the dropships and the heavy weaponary from the Hellfires. 200 troops from the five dropships deployed into the Kremlin itself were assigned to locate and capture President Putin. His aides were to be shot but the President himself was to be taken alive.
The Ineffable Empire had long wanted to take out RF, enemy of The GDODAD, but it seemed the time may have finally come.

OOC:

I'm going to do some bombing runs...I need to blow something up...

IC:

In the country of Greece, 5 B-52s are lined up and ready to take off. Their escorts are already in the air, 15 F-16s, 10 F-15s, and 7 F-22s.

"You know your mission, right Revolution?" the commander transmits to the oldest B-52 in the Tasty Foods air force.

"Yes, sir. We go in high and fast into Russian Forces and bomb communication arrays." replyed the pilot.

"Good. You are clear for takeoff. Good luck, Revolution."

The Revolution gains speed, then takes off from the runway. Shortly after, the other 4 follow.

They know that not all of them will come back in one piece...

Prime Minister Larry Strykert goes into a fit of swearing, until he is calmed down by a Who CD.

The LRR government tries desperately to contact the governments involved. What LRR could never understand is why people could act like they do when a war seems about to happen. Perhaps robots are better than humans. More compassionate, anyway. *Irony*

The LRR space fleet soon arrives in force over earth, with a full 50 Camden class destroyers, about 2.5 times that number in torpedo boats and attack frigates, five hospital ships, and one battlecarrier. They put themselves at the halfway point between AMF and RF space over their nations.

Meanwhile, LRR's modern-tech flotilla mobilizes out of Gdansk. The core of the fleet is the single invincible-class carrier, and it is surrounded by a number of frigates and a cloud of corvettes and patrol boats. They break off into three groups, one headed to the edge of AMF waters, one to the edge of RF waters, and one, along with the carrier and its compliment of somewhat outdated Sea Harriers and Sea Kings, stays out further at sea, under the umbrella of the longest range LRR patrol and marinetime attack aircraft. Su-34s make frequent overpasses of the fleet.

Message To The International Community:

LRR would like to announce the creation of containment zones around Automagfreek and Russian Forces. All forigen military ships entering their national waters will be asked to turn back, in hopes of preventing further conflict. We ask all nations, especially those who would participate in this war, to please honor this blockade and not prompt even further conflict. As well as this, an LRR fleet has been dispatched over earth and will move to end any fighting that may occur there. We also ask that you please honor their intervention, as it is for your own good. Any military vessels that engage in combat at sea, especially between AMF and RF, will be dispersed by LRR naval assets. We are sure our close associates ViZon and Aztec National League will back us up on this, but if you don't we are open to suggestions, as always.

Thankyou for your cooperation~Minister of Forigen Affairs Henry Gorbachev

LRR Fleet:

Group A (AMF blockade)

20x Gepard Mk. II Patrol Boats
5x Vosper 2 Corvettes
4x Various Reconnisance Trawlers
6x Gotland Class Electic Attack Submarines
2x Alpha Class Attack Submarines
3x Fearless Class Trimiran Frigates
1x Trimiran Battleship
20x Lynx IIIs
10x Sea Knigs

Group B (Further out to sea)

25x Gepard Mk. II Patrol Boats
12x Vosper 2 Corvettes
7x Gotland Class Electric Attack Submarines
4x Fearless Class Trimiran Frigates
4x Broadsword Class Frigates
2x Slava Class Cruisers
1x Invincible Class Aircraft Carrier
20x Sea Harrier Mk. IIIs
30x Lynx IIIs
15x Sea Kings

Group C (RF Blockade)

20x Gepard Mk. II Patrol Boats
5x Vosper 2 Corvettes
5x Gotland class Electric Attack Submarines
5x Broadsword Class Frigates
10x Lynx IIIs

Aircraft in 3 hour flight range of LRR forces:

40x Su-47IIIs
60x Su-34s
20x Tornado IDSs
30x A-6IIs

Ironic, a nation is trying to stop war, by threatening to attack, and use an act of war. Leave my freind, i think it best that you stay nuetral, and not try to stand in front of a boulder coming down from the hill and trying to stop the inevitable.

RF has comitted an act of war, unprovoked and unwarranted. There is little that can stop war at this point.

Prime Minister Larry Strykert goes into a fit of swearing, until he is calmed down by a Who CD.

The LRR government tries desperately to contact the governments involved. What LRR could never understand is why people could act like they do when a war seems about to happen. Perhaps robots are better than humans. More compassionate, anyway. *Irony*

The LRR space fleet soon arrives in force over earth, with a full 50 Camden class destroyers, about 2.5 times that number in torpedo boats and attack frigates, five hospital ships, and one battlecarrier. They put themselves at the halfway point between AMF and RF space over their nations.

Meanwhile, LRR's modern-tech flotilla mobilizes out of Gdansk. The core of the fleet is the single invincible-class carrier, and it is surrounded by a number of frigates and a cloud of corvettes and patrol boats. They break off into three groups, one headed to the edge of AMF waters, one to the edge of RF waters, and one, along with the carrier and its compliment of somewhat outdated Sea Harriers and Sea Kings, stays out further at sea, under the umbrella of the longest range LRR patrol and marinetime attack aircraft. Su-34s make frequent overpasses of the fleet.

Message To The International Community:

LRR would like to announce the creation of containment zones around Automagfreek and Russian Forces. All forigen military ships entering their national waters will be asked to turn back, in hopes of preventing further conflict. We ask all nations, especially those who would participate in this war, to please honor this blockade and not prompt even further conflict. As well as this, an LRR fleet has been dispatched over earth and will move to end any fighting that may occur there. We also ask that you please honor their intervention, as it is for your own good. Any military vessels that engage in combat at sea, especially between AMF and RF, will be dispersed by LRR naval assets. We are sure our close associates ViZon and Aztec National League will back us up on this, but if you don't we are open to suggestions, as always.

Thankyou for your cooperation~Minister of Forigen Affairs Henry Gorbachev

LRR Fleet:

...

Ironic, a nation is trying to stop war, by threatening to attack, and use an act of war. Leave my freind, i think it best that you stay nuetral, and not try to stand in front of a boulder coming down from the hill and trying to stop the inevitable.

RF has comitted an act of war, unprovoked and unwarranted. There is little that can stop war at this point.

LRR sends peacekeepers to most major wars, usually against everyone else's will. Did you see the Steel Butterfly civil war? LRR is also there, trying to stop the inevitable. I think that LRR sticking his nose in everything would probably be his downfall.

You all fail to realize that LRR has a vested interest in stopping wars. As we have trade relations with most everywhere, and since LRR's economy is based almost solely on shipbuilding and shipping, a major war can easily bring the economy to a standstill.

And nanakland, you at least owe me thanks for offering to help your ships escape. At least we're too lazy to hold a grudge.

And lord Christopher Scottman, we never threatened to attack. Does it say attack anywhere in that post? No. Is it ever LRR government policy to fire a shot unless in order to escape after taking heavy casualties? No. But we also really don't want to be bombed by a vastly more powerful nation while we rely on a largely outdated and somewhat small air defense force. So in retrospect the blockade was not such a good idea. But there is still hope for a peaceful settlement, provided that you guys are not hell-bent on destroying eachother, in which case the LRR fleet would hang around to provide medical aid which I am pretty sure two combatting sides would not provide eachother.

IC:

After reviewing the chances of survival, the LRR fleet commanders have realized that a flotilla of patrol boats and various other light ships would not do well to try and stop a fleet of much larger ships from entering the blockaded waters, so they are being withdrawn from their blockade stations. Please, for your own good, come to a settlement here! This is a war between a small group of people, namely the high governments of all of the nations involved. It is not, we repeat not a war for the good of the people. If you honestly care about your citizens, please withdraw your troops and ships and planes and make peace.

But if you decide not to make peace and to destroy eachother, LRR asks permission to deploy a contingent of medical personell in the major combat areas to provide first-rate care to wounded troops, and will gladly reserve forces for the post-war cleanup. This is totally free, in case you thought it would cost you. All we ask is that you don't nuke us or invade us, or at least allow us time to leave beforehand.

Thanks in advance~LRR ministry of Forigen Affairs

Minister Of Forigen Affairs John Entwistle (http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/who/tkaa/images/tkaa-085.jpg)

ooc:- I find it funny the amount of material & personnel people are willing to throw around...........I mean all those ships will need good navigation to avoid ramming allies of their nations, same with the aircraft and in the advent of a land battle all those vehicles & troops will be closely packed on the beachfront/ airports.

And thats not counting the logistics of feeding, fueling, transportation etc of everything. And don't forget the time to move units :roll:

WE ARE NOT POSTING THE WAR HERE DAMN IT! We must wait for Automagfreek to post up the topic in the international incidents section!!!!!!!









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OOC: Nodea, it's in Freekian waters (i.e. off the Automagfreek coast). You wouldnt've been able to track my subs but I'll let you off.
Half a day an eight pages erupt...These are definatly my least-favorite type of RP...I've just read every page up till now, but all the bitching has made me forget what's actually happening in relation to my forces!!!
RF, are the ships you mentioned surface or space? Oh, and losses from the torp. attack? Oh, and I'm assuming your Shkvals aren't nuclear? I doubt you'd vapourise your own fleet.
IC:
Ineffable High Command
"Russian bombers incoming, with a Mig escort."
"Meh. Activate the SAMs, dispatch defensive fighters, alert the defence satellites. Have them dispatch Jovian Lightning fighters and Phoenixes to intercept as well."
"It appears they are heading for the ports."
"Hmm. Perhaps this is a chance to use our new carrier. This will be interesting. Oh, ensure the First Fleet is protecting the ports as well, in case of a freak accident."

Ineffable Waters, off the coast of The Silver Turtle.
Towards the enemy aircraft flew an armada of fighters. As the aircraft began getting missile locks, from high orbit a second attack wave came. Spacegoing fighter craft and atmospheric attack craft descended almost vertically, firing off missiles, bullets and lasers into the enemy, the Ineffable craft diving straight through the Russian craft mainly aiming for the bombers. As they wheeled around underneath and began another attack, this time vertically from underneath the jet fighters broke formation and swarmed around attacking the remaining Russian craft mopping up.

Freekian Waters
The submarines were suprised at the rapid response from the Russians. The enemy torpedoes slammed into three of the submarines, one of which was destroyed. The explosion further damaged another submarine. The three submarined not too heavily damaged ducked and weaved their way through the Russian sub nets, glad there was little way they could be tracked. The damaged remaining submarine, knowing they had little chance of survival, fired off all their ammunition. Twenty cruise missiles sped upwards to the Russian fleet above. Countless torpedoes swarmed towards the Russian subs, bringing death to the Commie enemies of The Empire.

The Ineffable Armada, International Waters
"General Whang sir. It appears LRR forces have blockaded both Russian and Freekian waters, in order to prevent further military deployments."
"Bugger. Let me see the forces. Hmmm...It's no problem, but I don't really want to have to fight them if it can be avoided. Radio the LRR fleet, tell them we don't want to fight them unneccessarily, but if they attempt to prevent us from reaching Russian waters we will take the necessary measures.
And what's this? A Russian mediterrainian fleet? Moving near Freekian Greece? Hmm...have the Ineffable Iraqui Gulf Fleets counterattack."

Above Russian Forces
"Admiral, Russian ships moving to intercept us."
"Hmm. Have the fleets assume a defensive position. Also I want the mech and dropship carriers to deploy the first wave immediately. How many troops do we have ready for the first dropship deployment wave?"
"Erm, 80,000 sir. And 1,000 mechs."
"Excellent."

Above RF
Thousands of red/gold streaks began crossing the Russian skies. Below, Russians looked up, unsure as to whether this was good or bad. But for them, it was very bad indeed. Escorted by hundreds of fighters, 2,000 Silver Shell dropships, 500 J.E.D.I. mechas, 200 Hellfire mechas and 300 Gold class mechas were descending upon the Kremlin. Dropships smashed into it, demolishing parts of it only to fill the rest of it with troops. The mechs unfurled from the cocoons that protected them during reentry, and then began consolidating their position. The Ineffable forces were setting up a defensive perimeter around the centre of the city. Russian troops were quickly mown down by minigun fire from the mechas and tanks were annihilated by the plasma blades of the J.E.D.I. mechs, the cannons from the dropships and the heavy weaponary from the Hellfires. 200 troops from the five dropships deployed into the Kremlin itself were assigned to locate and capture President Putin. His aides were to be shot but the President himself was to be taken alive.
The Ineffable Empire had long wanted to take out RF, enemy of The GDODAD, but it seemed the time may have finally come.

m8 i suggest you post this up on the war thread that will come up.

IC: The Dr_Twist Government has Ordered a Following 8 Million More Troops to Romania and Bulgaria to boost Numbers to 28 Million Troops.

IC: Tens of Thousands of Anti Ship Missiles are also being Transported to Bulgaria.

Hey RF, do you mind if we post troop mobilizations?

Hey RF, do you mind if we post troop mobilizations?

You need a place to Mobilize them to....?

Russia! Where else would I mobilize my troops to?

OCC: RF and AMF, did you see my request????

Russia! Where else would I mobilize my troops to?

well there are nations around Russia, but yer you will need RF approve to move Forces into Russia.

LRR: Well, I don't know if my input matters much, but it is fine with me (You mean the medical personnel, right?)

i approve.

i approve.

Who u approving Hattia or LRR?

Hattia.

I wish to also point out that silver turtle is god modding. How the hell can you just drop tons of troops on the kremlin like that?

Probably, trying to land in Moscow would get most of your stuff shot down, plus you have to fly through Russia to get to Moscow. And he did basically post your casualties for you.

LRR: Well, I don't know if my input matters much, but it is fine with me (You mean the medical personnel, right?)

Yeah. The Blockade was just inviting confrontation. The first 1,000 will be shipping out for Russian Forces in a short while. LRR hospital ships will be placed in geostationary orbit above Russian Forces.

This is an outrage! Russian Forces, a UN member, shouldn't be able to fight Automagfreek, a UN member. We will do our best to stop this conflict.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118516

This is ok with you, right RF?

This is an outrage! Russian Forces, a UN member, shouldn't be able to fight Automagfreek, a UN member. We will do our best to stop this conflict.

So you are going to war to stop a war...?

This is an outrage! Russian Forces, a UN member, shouldn't be able to fight Automagfreek, a UN member. We will do our best to stop this conflict.

So you are going to war to stop a war...?

Yeah. Just like our motto:

"Fighting for peace."

In the end, we'll probably side with whichever nation accepts our forces to help them first.

How about you help a fellow UN nation :D

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Yeah. Just like our motto:

"Fighting for peace."

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That's an oxymoron (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=oxymoron).

How about you help a fellow UN nation :D

Both sides are led by UN members. That's why I can't choose a side quite yet.

DOUBLE POST

AMF is a UN nation... Didn't know that.

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I wish to also point out that silver turtle is god modding. How the hell can you just drop tons of troops on the kremlin like that?

OOC: And how the hell can you paradrop hundreds of troops inside my borders without me knowing? :roll:

OCC: When are you going to start the new Thread AMF?

OCC: Also have u been getting my Msg's?

OCC: When are you going to start the new Thread AMF?

OCC: Also have u been getting my Msg's?

OOC: Once we get refs situated.

And no, I haven't. My inbox gets full every few hours, and I've been out all day.

OCC: When are you going to start the new Thread AMF?

OCC: Also have u been getting my Msg's?

OOC: Once we get refs situated.

And no, I haven't. My inbox gets full every few hours, and I've been out all day.

Ok ill resend now and u can reply now.....

Is everybody ok with my medical deployments?????

OOC: Oh yeah i paradrop Giant 50 feet tall mechs into your capital and blow away your city, tell me that is not as bad as paradropping. :roll:

Lunatic robots, I want no SPACE SHIPS! Only space things people can have is orbital sats or anti missile systems.

OCC: Msg send AMF.

OOC: Replied.

OOC: Oh yeah i paradrop Giant 50 feet tall mechs into your capital and blow away your city, tell me that is not as bad as paradropping. :roll:

Lunatic robots, I want no SPACE SHIPS! Only space things people can have is orbital sats or anti missile systems.

Ok. No space ships. I've got modern tech hospital ships galore.

OCC: Thats better. I don't care if they are hover boats.

The Extra 8 Million troops sent to Bulgaria / Romania finished arriving this Morning 6 Million of them will head to the Romanian / Ukrainian Border bringing the total of Troops on that Border to 18 Million Heavily Armed troops and equipment. The other 2 Million will help the other 4 Million defend Bulgaria. With 4 Million Troops still standing on the Greek / Bulgarian Border.

10 million soldiers have been sent to the border to assist Dr Twist.

It was a dreary day in the capital of Haton. Unusually, the departure of a fleet to battle was heralded by a great amount of fanfare. Now, this was not the case. The troops, along with their families, were in a somber mood, knowing well that many of them wouldn't come back. The ships silently pulled out of the harbor, the troopships and carriers in the middle of a ring of battleships, frigates, destroyers, subs, etc.The carriers launched screens of fighters and anti-sub aircraft around the fleet. The ships began to make their way to Russia. Some of the soldiers may have even felt as if they were going home, as our nation was founded by Russian exiles.

Our people will greet you.

Hattia.

I wish to also point out that silver turtle is god modding. How the hell can you just drop tons of troops on the kremlin like that?
OOC: If you'd read more carefully (which I can forgive 'cos it was a massive post) you'dve noticed that the mechs and troops are from dropships, from my fleets in orbit. Hence the golden plasma streaks as they crossed the sky. You hadn't said no starships until page twenty, although you did say no uber-tech you said limited space tech was fine(okay, I suppose dropping troops in from orbit is stretching it a bit). I'm not going to ortillery bombard you, that's just boring. But I'll retract the spaceships if I must. Will make next IC post in the other thread, along with a repost of my previous post here.

OCC: Anyway just make it that it didn't happen. Because i feel so vulnerable this way. No Drop ships please. Mechs can be some what acceptable if they're are not more than 10 feet tall.

OOC:
Well, tactically, most humanoid 'mechs' aren't really good combatants. Their profile is too high and it's a lot harder to give them any form of camouflage or stealth than tanks. In addition, limbs are harder to protect than tracks and wheels. They may be armored and well armed, but they're easy targets. They can easily be crippled and destroyed.

I wouldn't mind 'mechs' at all, because personally in my opinion they would suck.

OCC: Anyway just make it that it didn't happen. Because i feel so vulnerable this way. No Drop ships please. Mechs can be some what acceptable if they're are not more than 10 feet tall.
OOC: Okay, will remove that bit and edit my last post in the other thread. I'll keep the mechs, but only the one's with the invasion army on the ground. There's not much point dropshipping mechs but not troops.

Edit: Zvarinograd, in an open field they may not be quite as good. However, in urban combat try being a tank commander driving forward down a street, when suddenly from behind you a plasma sword starts cutting your tank in half before you have a chance to react.

OOC Note: Plasma swords aren't a godmod. They were developed with (actually, mostly by) another nation when I did the research thread for my mechs ages ago.

Okay every one, I will be helping ref this war,

Some ground rules I wan't EVERY ONE to follow,

1. Troops do NOT just appear in position
2. You do NOT declare enemy losses
3. My rule is law.

Okay, now I will read the two pages that sprang up while I was not looking.

Okay, so, TST, I remember that tactic from the Knootian war, and it seems that RF will not allow ANY space ships, so, ya, just edit that post.

Okay, so, TST, I remember that tactic from the Knootian war, and it seems that RF will not allow ANY space ships, so, ya, just edit that post.
Check the war thread. I already did it earlier.

This thread is continued? The war thread is out? For all of us who didn't know that, I'll link to it.

War Thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118585)

Someone give me a synopsis of whats happened, please.

Edit: Zvarinograd, in an open field they may not be quite as good. However, in urban combat try being a tank commander driving forward down a street, when suddenly from behind you a plasma sword starts cutting your tank in half before you have a chance to react.

I'd agree with Zvarinograd... thing about Mech's is that they are more expensive then most tanks, they need more technology and they need more sensitive equipment (so they can balance and walk). What's more they probably have an issue with armour and balance that tanks would never have... you have limits on what you can stick on a leg and with the right equipment an infantry team could just take it's leg out and it'd be crippled.

Too costly for a few more advantages... I'd rather keep my tank and infantry for the reduced costs and well developed tactics.

OOC: Since this thread seems to have sort of become redundant due to the actual war taking place in another thread, I'm just going to address the consistent hate for mechanized infantry units (aka Mechs).
Mechs, as they exist in Battletech, are in fact supremely god-moding, because they won't even feel damage from weapons from infantry sources; you'd need at least a 120mm cannon loaded up with good old uranium sabot to at least dent the armor. Then you've got RACs and lasers and PPCs and missiles bigger than my--well, let's just say they're big ass missiles. ;)
However, there are further derivations of the bipedal mech that are roughly 2.2m tall (about 7-8 feet); these units are significantly more dangerous to both tanks and infantry alike, depending on how they're designed. They can move faster via some form of jet-assisted jumping mechanism, they have tougher armor than even level-III Kevlar with ceramic plate inserts, and due to the mechanized musculature, they can carry heavier weapons at a lower speed penalty. Their greater speed also makes them tougher to target without using area-effect/overpressure weapons such as grenades or high-explosive rockets; sniper rifles may be a possibility if you can immobilize the unit long enough for the shooter to get a positive lock.
So, in conclusion, Mechs will fail in a battlefield scenario, but powered personal combat armor is the next generation of combat hardware. [/opinion]

I am pulling out of the war because it's obvious Russian Forces can't RP worth a shit.

I am also ignoring Russian Forces and this war.

*fires IGNORE cannon*

We were never here and our troops were never mobilized. We never issued a draft, therefore we only have 16 million troops.

Well, I had hoped that RF had evolved in his RPing since I fought.. well not exactly fought.. anyhow, with him.

However, it is the seccond time I'l ignore him and well. Here we go again.