NationStates Jolt Archive

With WC 11 starting in less than 24 hours, here is the WC 12 Signup thread.

Newbie question here. How does it work?
A series of football matches are set up - and random number generators used to generate results. Sides then RP the matches - and other stuff related (sometimes very loosely*) to the matches. The tournament is set up to be as similar as possible to the FIFA World Cup.
We have a governing body (World Cup Committee - WCC) consisting of those who have "hosted" the cups. We all babble on and on about what the rules ought to be - then the WCC decides.
Read some of the WC9 and WC8 threads to get an idea of what goes on.

*case in point - me
:D

Some Questions:
How to become a member of WCC?
On which basis do you calculate the matches?
1. You become a member of the WCC by hosting the Cup.
2. The historical offensive/defensive strength, the difference in rank between the teams, the amount that each team has RPed, and home-field advantage are combined to create 'modified defensive numbers' for the two teams in a match. The offensive strength determines the number of 'attacks' that each team gets. For each attack, a random number between 0 and 1 is generated, and if the number is lower than the modified defensive number of the other team, a goal is scored. The goals scored by each team are added up to create the final score of the match.
(Or was that a little more than you wanted to know? ;) )

Hosting Bids:
TBF & TLC (The Inbreds)
NMS & CS (The RPing Newbs from Hell!)
AS & Spaam (The Off Pissers)
Lemmy & KP (The Suicidal Skips)
LE & ?? (The Doomed Ship Lollipop)

Teams:
Total n Utter Insanity
Oglethorpia
Liverpool England
The Lowland Clans
Zeronia
Sliponia
Dennisov
Cockbill Street
Rejistania
Iansisle
Mattigool
The Belmore Family
One Red Dot
Lemmitania
Spaam
Audioslavia
Warnocks Wizards
Kerla
Europa Brittania
Newcuba
Eauz
Tanah Burung
Praying2God
Commerce Heights
New Montreal States
Nikea
Giant Zucchini
NASTIC 2
NEWI Cefn Druids
Kaze Progressa
Creedence Clearwater
AlanShearer
Bedistan
Alex The Tall
Garrard
Aquilla
Snub Nose 38
Ariddia
Ravenspire
EL CID THE HERO
Jeruselem
Halfassedstates
The Weegies
Nadeer
Brazillico
Santwa
Gormith
Hash n Beans
Fenisia
Kingsford
Costa Lot
OPArsenal
Vozvyshennost
Holy India
James A Hollar
Squornshelous
Talyllyn
Defari
Northern Wastestan
Lubistan
Dance 2 Revolution
Santwa
Oilermania
True Yorkshire
Lovisa
Svecia
Dokett
Erratic Blobs
Rinkeby
Valient
Indigo Islands

Puppets:
Oddslavo
Belmorian Scandinavia
Big Butts
The Master Cooper
East Spaam
Eaglet
Antaeus Rising
Stalag 5
Abysmalistan

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Oglethorpia will make it's 8th World Cup appearance in World Cup 12.

OOOH, second to sign up. LE and Oddslavo will be back. If you need me to post with Oddslavo just say.

Third in line. Sign me up boys!

Would
Would you like to
Teach TLC to spell again?

My friend?

:wink:

Would
Would you like to
Teach TLC to spell again?

My friend?

:wink:
*hits Oglethropia*

*dodges*

*slaps Ogle*

Yep, post as puppets.

I'm in!

Puppet Sign-Up confirmed.

Sliponia is in.
Also our puppet Celtico is in.

The once proud champions Dennisov hereby declare their participation in WC12.

Cockbill Street returns for our third straight World Cup.

Sign the Orange-Blues up! The title will be ours!

Ack, WCXII signups already? And WCXI starting in 24 hours...I've not even posted my roster yet!

Heh, guess I've a bit of work ahead of me.

Oh, and, er, Iansisle signs up for WCXII!

Mattigool is in.

Lucky for you, TBF is back for our *Counts with fingers* 8th World Cup!

Also TBF and TLC(The Lowlands Clans) will put in a bid to host the World Cup.

Belmorian Scandinavia will be there aswell!

ORD signs up for thir 8th WC.

Lemmitania will participate in its 10th World Cup.

As a nation who worships football, Fenisia, and I, uBeR, it's leader, happily sign ourselves up to play in our very first World Cup.


~Forza Azzurri!!

~uBeR~
:twisted:

TnUI, perhaps you should include my explanation in the handball signup thread, since it is a bit more exact than the explanation of SN38. Wew should also link to the last RP thread, so newbs an see how RPing matches is done.

Sounds ok, but how do you decide who wins a game
Like in all NS sports competitions, it is decided by certain formulas based on
* rank
* RPing (if you RP your matches, you get a bonus)
* random numbers

Just to let you know, I'll continue to be "away" for prolly another week or so, but you can sign moi and East Spaam up (I'll log in to ES later).

And would like to announce a joint hosting bid with Spaam and Audioslavia. We call it the "Piss TnUI off and do it right this time" bid.

heh ;)

so obviously, Audioslavia is in as well :)

The "Piss TnUI off and do it right this time" bid, trading as:

http://www.stsci.edu/exined/speaker.gif http://www.kahl.net/reduce/graphics/spam.gif
AUDIOSPAAM

note: not official World Cup logo, not official world cup slogan. TnUI's miffedness is not guaranteed nor refundable. Some conditions apply, your statutory rights are not affected. Mind the gap.

Please include our Enlightened Empire in the quest to capture World Cup 12.

Ufhur the Hated
Minister for Sport
Enlightened Empire of Warnocks Wizards

2 things

1. A list of nations Signed Up

Possible Hosts
The Belmore Family & The Lowland Clans (Can anyone think of a name for this bid?)
Audioslavia & Spaam (AUDIOSPAAM)

Well Known Teams
Total n Utter Insanity
Oglethorpia
Liverpool England
The Lowland Clans
Dennisov
Rejistania
Iansisle
Mattigool
The Belmore Family
One Red Dot
Lemmitania
Spaam
Audioslavia
Warnocks Wizards

Known Teams
Zeronia
Sliponia
Cockbill Street

Unknown Teams
Fenisia

Puppets
Oddslavo (Liverpool England)
Belmorian Scandinavia (The Belmore Family)

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2. Surely both Spaam and Audioslavia can't both get a vote on who hosts!

Hehe.... yes we can ;)

Hey, you can call your bid: "Second again" ;)

The Socialist Union of Kerla would like to sign up for it's third World Cup.

Stephanie Rosen
Premier
Socialist Union of Kerla

Hehe.... yes we can ;)

Hey, you can call your bid: "Second again" ;)
lol

But surely if we have WCC members voting for themselves we will get into a constant stream of WCC members becoming hosts over and over again.

Hehe.... yes we can ;)

Hey, you can call your bid: "Second again" ;)
lol

But surely if we have WCC members voting for themselves we will get into a constant stream of WCC members becoming hosts over and over again.

No, we won't. And most hosts wouldn't want to host for a while, if ever. And I can't guarantee that I will win.

The name for TBF's and TLC's bid will be......

'The' Bid

EB will sign up for WC XII, and make it twelve competitions in a row.

sign me up 2. Hash n beans will make thier first impact on the World Cup

But surely if we have WCC members voting for themselves we will get into a constant stream of WCC members becoming hosts over and over again.

Not really, its just that the only choice we ever get is:

Likeable Regular Nation + Regular Nation
vs
LE + Regular Nation
vs
TBF + Random Nation
vs
Regular Nation + Random Nation

we subconsciously look for the 'likeable + regular' option when we vote. Its like a granted that TBF and LE are going to be fighting it out for second place

Surely teaming up with someone in the WCC is the logical way out?

But surely if we have WCC members voting for themselves we will get into a constant stream of WCC members becoming hosts over and over again.

Not really, its just that the only choice we ever get is:

Likeable Regular Nation + Regular Nation
vs
LE + Regular Nation
vs
TBF + Random Nation
vs
Regular Nation + Random Nation

we subconsciously look for the 'likeable + regular' option when we vote. Its like a granted that TBF and LE are going to be fighting it out for second place

Surely teaming up with someone in the WCC is the logical way out?

So you and Spaam are this one right:

Regular Nation + Random Nation

So you and Spaam are this one right:

Regular Nation + Random Nation

i'd let you off with that one if you had a good explanation for why i'm random ;)

turquoise

hefty

fridge

hammersmith

damn :/

Newcuba is in

I'll sign up again...

BTW... when is WC11 starting ? And how do you get nominated for Host ?

Possible Hosts
The Belmore Family & The Lowland Clans ('The' bid)
Audioslavia & Spaam (AUDIOSPAAM)

Well Known Teams
Total n Utter Insanity
Oglethorpia
Liverpool England
The Lowland Clans
Dennisov
Rejistania
Iansisle
Mattigool
The Belmore Family
One Red Dot
Lemmitania
Spaam
Audioslavia
Warnocks Wizards
Europa Brittania
Tanah Burung

Known Teams
Zeronia
Sliponia
Cockbill Street
Newcuba
Eauz

Unknown Teams
Fenisia
Kerla
Hash n Beans

Puppets
Oddslavo (Liverpool England)
Belmorian Scandinavia (The Belmore Family)

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And how do you get nominated for Host ?
You nominate yourself. Ususally having a co-host helps.

Possible Hosts
The Belmore Family & The Lowland Clans (Can anyone think of a name for this bid?)

Off-Kilter? The Inbreds? :wink:

Tanah Burung will, of course, take part once again. Now puppet-free.

Even though we haven't started play in our first World Cup, Praying2God is thrilled to sign up for its second cup! :D

The Bureaucratic Tribune

MAD EVISCERATOMATO HITS OGLETHORPIA
Evisceratomatoes fed with dead evisceratomatoes proven to be 'mad'

By Bill Christmas

OGLETHORPIA (BT) -- Research labs across the nation have reached a general concensus -- that evisceratomatoes distributed throughout the Bureaucratic States may be 'mad' after farmers in Oglethorpia fed their evisceratomato crops with parts of infected evisceratomatoes. While no mad evisceratomatoes have been found, the government is running extensive tests on evisceratomato exports to Tanah Burung -- as well as domestic shipments within the country. Said Preisdent Marvin, "if the ones going to the Belmore Family are mad, then all the better."

"Just kidding," he later added.

Oglethorpian Food, Drug and Food Administrative Association and Federation Director Mike Stumbles said that Oglethorpians -- and Tanah Burungians have nothing to worry about. "It's unlikely that it'll even make it past the FD&FAA&F tests -- so even if there is mad evisceratomato in Oglethorpia, it will not make it into the supermarkets. If, there even turns out to be any mad evisceratomatoes out there."

Local Consolidated FoodMart manager Pete Falls has no plans to pull any of his evisceratomato stock. "It's what the people want for dinner, after all. I trust the FD&FAA&F to make sure any mad evisceratomato doesn't make it to my store."

Oglethorpians in the shopping mall have the same sentiment. "They haven't even found a mad evisceratomato yet -- for all we know there may not be one. Just get the farmers to stop feeding evisceratomatoes to evisceratomatoes, and there's no problem anymore," said one mother of two-dozen.

More on the mad-evisceratomato situation as it comes.



Heheh. :mrgreen:

Ogle, that's pretty good all right. What do you say we continue it in the WC11 thread, which i think starts tomorrow?

Heheh, glad ya think so -- at first I thought I ought to have checked in with you about doin' it.

Yeah, that sounds fine -- I just put it in a place you'd see it 8)

Commerce Heights will participate in its 6th World Cup.
The CHFF will announce what nation it intends to co-host with soon. Unfortunately, the anonymous CHFF president is in a car driving to Northwest International Airport to catch a flight to Naquada Falls, and cannot be contacted at this time.

States, Street to bid for Cup hosting

NMS, Cockbill Street to mount co-hosting bid

Immediately after the IPA's announcement that the Ice Paladins would be entering WC12, newly announced President Julie Labrique stepped up to the stand and knocked the people off their feet with the following announcement.

"Following secret negociations, the New Montreal States and the Principality of Cockbill Street are now announcing a co-hosting bid for WC12. We have recieved the approval of the Lord High Paladin, Frog for this momentuous undergoing, and trust that the international community will see that we are best suited for this great task."

In summation:

1) The Paladins are in WC12!
2) The Paladins and Cockbill Street will win the hosting bid!
3) This was NOT a double post. No sir!

In again, gonna light up some WorstTeam ass.

Announcing 'The' bid's logo:

http://www.abelmore.com/Soccercup5.jpg

OOC:Sorry Rejis

Also-Feedback Wanted

Giant Zucchini would like to participate in the 12th World Cup.

Nastic 2 will again enter this fine tournament.

NEWI Cefn Druids would like to enter its second World Cup

Lemmitania will participate in its 10th World Cup.

The Progressans will compete in their sixth, and are contemplating a bid for co-hosting with Lemmitania (yet to be confirmed).

Creedence Clearwater would also like to participate in WCXII.

(Best Wishes to our team for WCXI :wink: )

AlanShearer wants to show his goalscoring abilitys too :)

This has to be the latest I've ever signed up for a Cup.

The Lions are in and will be looking to qualify for their eighth consecutive Cup. ;)

Did anyone even notice that Cockbill Street and I launched a hosting bid for WC12?

And the snappy nickname for it...is...is...

Did anyone even notice that Cockbill Street and I launched a hosting bid for WC12?

And the snappy nickname for it...is...is...

RPing Newbs from Hell!

heh. KP, if your bid with Lemmy fails I'd love to put in a bid with you... if not, i'll need to confirm if Spaam or Dennisov can cohost.

heh. KP, if your bid with Lemmy fails I'd love to put in a bid with you... if not, i'll need to confirm if Spaam or Dennisov can cohost.

Already put a bid in to cohost with Audioslavia, sorry.

AUDIOSPAAM
Piss TnUI off and do it right this time

LE: Hmmm, I'll consider it. Lemmy's still my first choice though. He's been there, done that, etc.

Spaam: :lol: @ bid nickname :D

Edit: That was the magic 800th.

Alex The Tall will be there for the second time!

Did anyone even notice that Cockbill Street and I launched a hosting bid for WC12?

And the snappy nickname for it...is...is...

Hmm. What's the French for platypus?

Whatever the nuickname, it must be brought to you by the letters C and M and the number 12.

The Nation of Garrard would like to sign up for World Cup 12.




The President of Garrard,
Aaron Desoto

Aquilla and Eaglet are here

The Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages is pleased to announce that The Frost-Free Borderlands of Snub Nose 38's national football side, The Hooligans, will participate in World Cup 12, marking the Hooligan's 10th appearance.

The Hooligan Cheerleaders are once again expected to embarrass our nation by their participation. We apologize in advance.

Did anyone even notice that Cockbill Street and I launched a hosting bid for WC12?

And the snappy nickname for it...is...is...

Hmm. What's the French for platypus?

Whatever the nuickname, it must be brought to you by the letters C and M and the number 12.

a platypus = un ornithorynque (though I'd have to check the spelling...).

And Ariddia are in, obviously. :)

Ravenspire is in.

Morawny is not, just to be clear.

EL CID THE HERO will come once more for another beating with more money spent on football

Count us in again. Not going well in XI, but we'll be back.

Team = Jeruselem Crusaders

Thierry Henry: eh ariddia, what es tha french for 'va va voom'?

eh aquilla

Ariddia, ya mean? :P

eh aquilla

Ariddia, ya mean? :P

:oops: godammit i ALWAYS get those two mixed up :/

cor blimey guv!
WC12 already?

Count Halfassed in again!

Let me in... I have cake.

Let me in... I have cake.

you'll be more than welcome in AudioSpaam then :D

Can I play, but i'm new so you have to give me the idiots guide
King badal

Can I play, but i'm new so you have to give me the idiots guide
King badal
OK, each World Cup (WC) is hosted by a different nation (nation chosen by the World Cup Committee [WCC]) and the host nation(s) generate the scores. The scores are generated using this roughly formula:

A random Number between 0 and 1*1000-(850+your rank)-your opponents rank+20 if you host+2 every time you RP

You may have noticed above that I was talking about ranks. Ranks are currently calculated by TnUI, effective ruler of the WCC and current host. The formula for rank generation is:
WC9 points+WC10 points+Special RP bonus

To find out how matches are RPed, have a look at The World Cup 11 RP thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110697)

Count the Bats in for WCXII!!

...and in case I'm still on the WCC time the next cup rolls around, can someone please neatly and compactly outline who is aspiring to host the cup?

Count the Bats in for WCXII!!

...and in case I'm still on the WCC time the next cup rolls around, can someone please neatly and compactly outline who is aspiring to host the cup?
The Belmore Family and The Lowland Clans
The Belmore Family's 5th try for hosting glory along with WC veterans The Lowland Clans. This bid has the most hosting experience behind them.

Audioslavia & Spaam
Both esteemed WCC members and great Role-Players. Audioslavia and Spaam are good members of the WC community.

Cockbill Street & New Montreal States
Both good and up-and-coming RPers. Both have are making a name for themselves in the RPing circle.

Thierry Henry: eh ariddia, what es tha french for 'va va voom'?

*lifts eyebrow, Spock-fashion*

Va va voom, naturally.

Ravenspire is in.

Morawny is not, just to be clear.

So Morawny's a Ravenspire puppet? I was wondering whose it was. I enjoyed the Morawny match reports, BTW.

A random Number between 0 and 1*1000-(850+your rank)-your opponents rank+20 if you host+2 every time you RP


Is this right? TnUI, you're not using this formula, are you?

Santwa's up for it.

And just to be perfectly clear <OOC>(since I didn't bother logging out of DA before posting)</OOC> Dire Arachnia is not participating in World Cup 12, and will never participate in a puny human sporting event.

The Progressans ... are contemplating a bid for co-hosting with Lemmitania (yet to be confirmed).

Lemmitania confirms bidding to co-host World Cup 12 with Kaze Progressa.

A random Number between 0 and 1*1000-(850+your rank)-your opponents rank+20 if you host+2 every time you RP


Is this right? TnUI, you're not using this formula, are you?
That's more a base, it should be something like that.

A random Number between 0 and 1*1000-(850+your rank)-your opponents rank+20 if you host+2 every time you RP


Is this right? TnUI, you're not using this formula, are you?
That's more a base, it should be something like that.

Good, 'cause the formula you've got up there would include 2 RP bonuses (the one in the rankings plus a rolling one) and, so far as I'm aware, no hosts have ever given themselves a bonus (despite the results of WCs 9 and 10).

I think, that TnUI used simply the TBF/Rejis formula, because he was *very* interested in the way I did wcxi.java and he wanted me to tell him the formula. Of course I did, because I don't want a *bleeep* WC because of a wrong formula.
I copied him this part of my program into IRC:
[code:1:edaec95b6a]
if (((Math.random()* 1000)-(864-ht.rank-(ht.rp-at.rp))+(ht.avggf*4)-(at.avgga*4))>1)
{
home++;
}
[/code:1:edaec95b6a]
'ht' is the home team, 'at' the away team, 'rank' and 'rp' should be clear and the 'avggf' are the average number of 'goals for' the according team (you have three guesses what 'avgga' is)


BTW: sign my puppet Abysmalistan up!

How on earth does TBF have more hosting experience than Audioslavia?

Anyway, I'm just curious about the avggf and avgga. Where is the table that has it, and has anyone made sure it is correct?

How on earth does TBF have more hosting experience than Audioslavia?

Anyway, I'm just curious about the avggf and avgga. Where is the table that has it, and has anyone made sure it is correct?
Hosting in general. Look at my list of hosting....
Champions League (2 times), Field Hockey World Cup (2 times) the list goes on....

My program created it while making the scores. I thought, that the initial number could be made of results the previous cups. But - no one gave TBF and me the chance to do so!

Ahhhh ok then....
Well, I'm curious who has the 'official' table. And if it has been checked.

And TBF, you have no WORLD CUP hosting experience though.

Fresh off the legalization of sport this past month, the Nomadic Peoples of Gormith announces it's intent to enter and dominate the upcoming World Cup.

Seeing as how we are nomadic peoples, however, we will have no home stadium, instead playing our opponents on the open fields whenever and whereever we shall meet them. Boundries will be determined by the natural terrain of the land, and time will be kept by the official National Sundial.

Many millions of shiny rocks, however, will be expended in making sure our player's equipment is top notch, and when we travel, our oxen will be first class all the way.

Ahhhh ok then....
Well, I'm curious who has the 'official' table. And if it has been checked.

And TBF, you have no WORLD CUP hosting experience though.
Neither have you

IMVHO, hosting a Champions League is as good experience as hosting a cup. I have proved myslef through this that I will always produce a fun, secure, well run cup. Every time.

Can I play, but i'm new so you have to give me the idiots guide
King badal
OK, each World Cup (WC) is hosted by a different nation (nation chosen by the World Cup Committee [WCC]) and the host nation(s) generate the scores. The scores are generated using this roughly formula:

A random Number between 0 and 1*1000-(930+(20 if at home)-((your rank-your opponents rank)/2))

You may have noticed above that I was talking about ranks. Ranks are currently calculated by TnUI, ineffective ruler of the WCC and current host. The formula for rank generation is:
WC9 points+WC10 points+Special RP bonus

To find out how matches are RPed, have a look at The World Cup 11 RP thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110697)

a load of false propaganda

Audioslavia's bias-free* guide to the possible WCXII hosts. Information about the hosting bids contain facts about WCC standing, role-playing experience and previous hosting experience. Information about hosting bids contain no opinions, unlike TBF's propaganda-ridden shite :p

Current WCXI Hosting Bids
The Belmore Family and The Lowland Clans
TBF is a very regular roleplayer, TLC is a regular roleplayer. TBF runs the Field Hockey world cup and the Champions League.

Audioslavia & Spaam
Both WCC members and very regular Role-Players. Audioslavia hosted WC7, Spaam was down to host WC6 but was away when the competition started.

Cockbill Street & New Montreal States
Both quite regular RPers.

Lemmitania & Kaze Progessa
Both very regular RPers. Lemmitania is a WCC member and hosted WC7, Kaze Progressa has experience creating ideas for rankings, rumoured (TnUI wont seem to give owt away about his formula/ranking stuff :P) to be the brain behind the current formula.

I'll leave you to form your own opinions.

*of course, it is impossible to be completely unbiased when i'm one of the people mentioned, but ive done my best. If anyone has any complaints about wording then i'll be happy to change anything written here.

I think you didn't see my post because i am not in the list...

IM IN!!!

Thank you

And just to be perfectly clear <OOC>(since I didn't bother logging out of DA before posting)</OOC> Dire Arachnia is not participating in World Cup 12, and will never participate in a puny human sporting event.

OOC:
Shame, I could have put you in a group with TBF, LE, Aquilla, EB, AS, CH and Céline Dion. A real group of evil.

UPDATED

So Morawny's a Ravenspire puppet? I was wondering whose it was. I enjoyed the Morawny match reports, BTW.

Thanks. The USAnia ones last cup made them a bit redundant, though, so I sort of stopped. And I'd forgotten I'd signed them up for the current cup. I'll probably do a report or two, but I don't think I want them in from here on -- I mostly added them to 9 because I was hosting and wanted a 'control side' to check my formula results against.

Too bad about the arachnids, though. That would lead to some interesting RP, I'm sure.

a load of false propaganda

Audioslavia's bias-free* guide to the possible WCXII hosts. Information about the hosting bids contain facts about WCC standing, role-playing experience and previous hosting experience. Information about hosting bids contain no opinions, unlike TBF's propaganda-ridden shite :p

Current WCXI Hosting Bids
The Belmore Family and The Lowland Clans
TBF is a very regular roleplayer, TLC is a regular roleplayer. TBF runs the Field Hockey world cup and the Champions League.

Audioslavia & Spaam
Both WCC members and very regular Role-Players. Audioslavia hosted WC7, Spaam was down to host WC6 but was away when the competition started.

Cockbill Street & New Montreal States
Both quite regular RPers.

Lemmitania & Kaze Progessa
Both very regular RPers. Lemmitania is a WCC member and hosted WC7, Kaze Progressa has experience creating ideas for rankings, rumoured (TnUI wont seem to give owt away about his formula/ranking stuff :P) to be the brain behind the current formula.

I'll leave you to form your own opinions.

*of course, it is impossible to be completely unbiased when i'm one of the people mentioned, but ive done my best. If anyone has any complaints about wording then i'll be happy to change anything written here.

Well, TBF had a chance of beating Audiospaam, but they have jackall of beating Lemmy and KP. I think Audiospaam should start looking to host WC13 ;)

Cockbill Street & New Montreal States
Both quite regular RPers.



Also, add that Cockbill Street are currently hosting the Handball World Cup.

Kingsford is in, and would like to announce a cohost bid with Tanah Burung

Because this starts up in Feb it might be good to have enough people signed up by then.

Kingsford is in, and would like to announce a cohost bid with Tanah Burung
Ok, this is starting to get rediculous, soon all the WCC will have co-hosting bids giving no chance for any new hosts.

I put forward a motion towards the WCC meeting that all WCC wanting to put in a co-hosting bid forfit their vote for World Cup Host for that cup.

*we see a load of kids lined-up against the playground wall, one is waving his hand in the air and jumping up and down*

Me, me, oh pick me, please!!


OCC: yep count BB in again!

Don't care who or where, just want to play football.

The tropical paradise of Costa Lot which to venture onto the international stage to compete in this world cup.

Kingsford is in, and would like to announce a cohost bid with Tanah Burung
Ok, this is starting to get rediculous, soon all the WCC will have co-hosting bids giving no chance for any new hosts.

I put forward a motion towards the WCC meeting that all WCC wanting to put in a co-hosting bid forfit their vote for World Cup Host for that cup.

sorry, but you cant put forward any motions because you arent in the WCC..... ;)

i understand how frustrated you must be, but the point of having a host is to make sure the world cup runs as smoothly as possible, and to add that 'fun fun fun!' factor to it. If people dont think youre the man for the job, then people dont think youre the man for the job. You can throw as many statistics at us as you like saying how youre good at hosting, but if you keep missing out then theres obviously something missing m8.

Well, TBF had a chance of beating Audiospaam, but they have jackall of beating Lemmy and KP. I think Audiospaam should start looking to host WC13

I see your point... lol :)

But...

I'd like to see Spaam host a world cup since you didnt get to host your own world cup in WC6 (which was, to be fair, your own damn fault :P ;)). IMO, Lemmy and Spaam have similar credentials in terms of World-Cup-Running-Ability and roleplaying, as well as the same amount of the much-needed 'respect' factor, but seeing as Spaam hasnt had a proper shot yet, even if i was a neutral, and even as a good friend of Lemmy, i think i'd give my vote for Spaam for WC12.... and you should too *points and winks at camera* ;)

P.S. good luck to Kingsford and Tanah Burung as well, Audioslavia have never actually played a in world cup in either nation, despite both being initiated into the WCC in our footballing lifetime... 'blames rank-compression and unreliable Kingsford :p'

The Free Land of OPArsenal would like to sign up for its first World Cup. Consider us in.

And just to be perfectly clear <OOC>(since I didn't bother logging out of DA before posting)</OOC> Dire Arachnia is not participating in World Cup 12, and will never participate in a puny human sporting event.

OOC:
Shame, I could have put you in a group with TBF, LE, Aquilla, EB, AS, CH and Céline Dion. A real group of evil.
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OOC: Celine Dion would be a dangerous opponent in a stadium with a glass roof... though the fans would be in more danger.

IC: The Lemmy-KP bid has confirmed it will be big on scene-setting. Lemmy said 'I'm going on the assumption that the winning bidders for WC12 won't be generating results. In which case, I'd like to look to WC5 as the model. TB spent a lot of time writing descriptions of venues, and the various locations in TB where the stadia were located, and created a character, Mau Slurp, who put odds on the matches in the finals.'

Vozvyshennost would like to be participanting in it's second world cup and hopefully do better than our current qualifying form ;)

can you sign me up please its my first time :lol:

Kingsford is in, and would like to announce a cohost bid with Tanah Burung
Ok, this is starting to get rediculous, soon all the WCC will have co-hosting bids giving no chance for any new hosts.

I put forward a motion towards the WCC meeting that all WCC wanting to put in a co-hosting bid forfit their vote for World Cup Host for that cup.
sorry, but you cant put forward any motions because you arent in the WCC..... ;)

Would any WCC members mind putting in this in please.

Kingsford is in, and would like to announce a cohost bid with Tanah Burung
Ok, this is starting to get rediculous, soon all the WCC will have co-hosting bids giving no chance for any new hosts.

I put forward a motion towards the WCC meeting that all WCC wanting to put in a co-hosting bid forfit their vote for World Cup Host for that cup.
sorry, but you cant put forward any motions because you arent in the WCC..... ;)

Would any WCC members mind putting in this in please.

I don't see why someone shouldn't get a second shot if they did a damn good job hosting the first one. The only problem I have with that, is if WCC members voted for themselves. If there was some regulation on that, I would have no reservations against previous hosts hosting more World Cups.

Kingsford is in, and would like to announce a cohost bid with Tanah Burung
Ok, this is starting to get rediculous, soon all the WCC will have co-hosting bids giving no chance for any new hosts.

I put forward a motion towards the WCC meeting that all WCC wanting to put in a co-hosting bid forfit their vote for World Cup Host for that cup.
sorry, but you cant put forward any motions because you arent in the WCC..... ;)

Would any WCC members mind putting in this in please.

I don't see why someone shouldn't get a second shot if they did a damn good job hosting the first one. The only problem I have with that, is if WCC members voted for themselves. If there was some regulation on that, I would have no reservations against previous hosts hosting more World Cups.
I am not against them hosting, I am just against them using their WCC power to host again.

Is it too late for the Holy Empire of James A Hollar to field a team? The citizens of this newly ordained country would love to showcase their talent on an international stage.

*signs up*

*signs up*

*signs up*

*signs up*

OMFG two Squornshelouses :shock: its a double whammy of mediocrity! ;)

me? bitchy? never! i just haven't got him back for beating me 4-0 20 odd years ago :p

*signs up*

*signs up*

OMFG two Squornshelouses :shock: its a double whammy of mediocrity! ;)

me? bitchy? never! i just haven't got him back for beating me 4-0 20 odd years ago :p

I would have mentioned it if you hadn't. :wink:

is it too late to enter? :?

The Drinkers of the Master Cooper would like to sign up to be the only pub team at World Cup XII

(This is a puppet of NEWI Cefn Druids)

The Master Cooper... LOL :D

Talyllyn, James A Hollar: no. Now that you've posted here, TnUI should add you to the list fairly soon.

Bah. SIgn me up, biatch.

Defari will sign up for WCXII qualifying

Defari will sign up for WCXII qualifying

Defari will sign up for WCXII qualifying

I am in for the first time, no idea what i'm doing.

Puppet Sign Up Confirmed.

Lubistan will signed for WCXII.

*signs up*

UPDATED

LE are maing an individual hosting bid - any nation is free to cohost with prior consent.

Scuttlebutt - Insane Edition
All The News That Fits In Print

What?
Sten Mike Easter, aspn wire

A usually reliable source has confirmed the veracity of the leak intimating that the Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages for the Frost-Free Borderlands of Snub Nose 38 shortly intends to announce that the Borderlands is considering the possibility of entering an official bid to host World Cup 13. There are a few loose ends that must first be tied up, which include:

1 - To co-host or not to co-host...that is the question - isn't it?
2 - Should the answer be "co-host" - selecting one.
3 - Can the Minister get out of, and stay out of, Margaret's way that long?
4 - Is there enough beer in Snub Nose 38?
5 - Are there enough uncontaminated live chickens left?
6 - Can sufficient venues be constucted / upgraded to host such an event?
7 - Is The Guy Currently In Charge Of Stuff For The Borderlands Of Snub Nose 38 really this insane?

Scuttlebutt will follow this story closely, and bring you more as it develops.

Hrmmm, I thought I signed up for this eariler. Oh well, I will participate!

Look a distraction!

See there you are:

Newcuba
Eauz
Tanah Burung

*phew*

Dance 2 Revolution would like to enter it's first world cup if it's able

Santwa's in!

SN38: I might be willing to co-host with you if the Lemmy bid fails. Which hopefully, it won't.

Oilermania would like to sign up

count me in them

With WC 11 starting in less than 24 hours, here is the WC 12 Signup thread.

Newbie question here. How does it work?
A series of football matches are set up - and random number generators used to generate results. Sides then RP the matches - and other stuff related (sometimes very loosely*) to the matches. The tournament is set up to be as similar as possible to the FIFA World Cup.
We have a governing body (World Cup Committee - WCC) consisting of those who have "hosted" the cups. We all babble on and on about what the rules ought to be - then the WCC decides.
Read some of the WC9 and WC8 threads to get an idea of what goes on.

*case in point - me
:D

Some Questions:
How to become a member of WCC?
On which basis do you calculate the matches?
1. You become a member of the WCC by hosting the Cup.
2. The historical offensive/defensive strength, the difference in rank between the teams, the amount that each team has RPed, and home-field advantage are combined to create 'modified defensive numbers' for the two teams in a match. The offensive strength determines the number of 'attacks' that each team gets. For each attack, a random number between 0 and 1 is generated, and if the number is lower than the modified defensive number of the other team, a goal is scored. The goals scored by each team are added up to create the final score of the match.
(Or was that a little more than you wanted to know? ;) )

Hosting Bids:
TBF & TLC (The Inbreds)
NMS & CS (The RPing Newbs from Hell!)
AS & Spaam (The Off Pissers)
Lemmy & KP (The Suicidal Skips)
K & TB (The Royal Physic)
LE & ?? (The Doomed Ship Lollipop)

Teams:
Total n Utter Insanity
Oglethorpia
Liverpool England
The Lowland Clans
Zeronia
Sliponia
Dennisov
Cockbill Street
Rejistania
Iansisle
Mattigool
The Belmore Family
One Red Dot
Lemmitania
Spaam
Audioslavia
Warnocks Wizards
Kerla
Europa Brittania
Newcuba
Eauz
Tanah Burung
Praying2God
Commerce Heights
New Montreal States
Nikea
Giant Zucchini
NASTIC 2
NEWI Cefn Druids
Kaze Progressa
Creedence Clearwater
AlanShearer
Bedistan
Alex The Tall
Garrard
Aquilla
Snub Nose 38
Ariddia
Ravenspire
EL CID THE HERO
Jeruselem
Halfassedstates
The Weegies
Nadeer
Brazillico
Santwa
Gormith
Hash n Beans
Fenisia
Kingsford
Costa Lot
OPArsenal
Vozvyshennost
Holy India
James A Hollar
Squornshelous
Talyllyn
Defari
Northern Wastestan
Lubistan

Puppets:
Oddslavo
Belmorian Scandinavia
Big Butts
The Master Cooper
East Spaam
Eaglet
Antaeus Rising

[67]

Is it too late to enter?
count me in them
Talyllyn is in. Look...

Teams:...
...
...Squornshelous
Talyllyn
Defari
Northern Wastestan
Lubistan

...see.

Guess the first post must have been good enough. :)

EDIT: Looking below, I guess the second one wasn't!

Snip that post or I'll chuck you out.

Who? Us? :cry:

*Looks up*

Oh. I see. Perhaps I should have said something... :?

Just ignore this posting -- wrong nation!

Sign the Abysmal(i) national team up (a puppet of Rejis).

@NEWI: I guess, TnUI ment Tallylyn and not you!

Want to sign up my puppet Stalag 5

Want to sign up my puppet Stalag 5
You'll need to post with yourpuppet.

Any chance that the principality of True Yorkshire may enter the coming cup? With got this new player and he says he's dead good...

As a rugby nation, it will be our first football tournament, can we have an easy group? How about a by to the semis?

mesa in again too

Because of the recent act of terrorism in Alotion International Stadium, Kingsford would like to apologize and withdraw it's part in the co hosting bid with Tanah Burung for World Cup 12.


The RP Ogly and I are working on, I'll post it later.

Want to sign up my puppet Stalag 5
You'll need to post with yourpuppet.

Okay, zen ve vant to sign up as puppet frrom Mattigool.

Lovisa will eter this competitions.
My coutry from region Europe. And we have a European Championships in football. Lovisa was a Winner a second EC, and last EC I was in 3rd place.

Svecia would like to enter again.

The Kingdom of Dokett are proud to announce they will make their debut in this competition - although at the press conference, the sports minister admitted he wasn't entirely sure what he was letting himself in for...!

The Erratic Blobs, eager to show themselves to the world, are declaring themselves eligible for the World Cup. Although they realize what they are up against, our team holds a glimmering hope of a glorious upset.

Rinkeby want to participate in their first ever World Cup.

Sigh, I know its probably too late, but can we come too? :(

The newly formed Indigo Island Football Federation shall put a team on the pitch. While We do not expect to get through the regional qualifying round, We look forward to showing the rest of the world Our teams fighting spirit and the hospitality of our Islands on the return matches.

Indigo
Master of the Indigo Islands

Time for an update, oh look a missing page.

can i withdraw my entry? I don't have time anymore since i started up a school newspaper. ummm...maybe sum other time eh?

Okay, cya DO.

Timway would also like to participate. And if LE, or anyone else for that matter, is searching for a co-host, I would be willing to offer my services. Thank you.

Hugoland would like to participate in the World Championship.

Someone else want to take this over, I won't be bothering to spend hours doing stuff for the World Cup any more.

Hosting Bids:
TBF & TLC
NMS & CS
AS & Spaam
Lemmy & KP
LE & Timway

Teams:
Total n Utter Insanity
Oglethorpia
Liverpool England
The Lowland Clans
Zeronia
Sliponia
Dennisov
Cockbill Street
Rejistania
Iansisle
Mattigool
The Belmore Family
One Red Dot
Lemmitania
Spaam
Audioslavia
Warnocks Wizards
Kerla
Europa Brittania
Newcuba
Eauz
Tanah Burung
Praying2God
Commerce Heights
New Montreal States
Nikea
Giant Zucchini
NASTIC 2
NEWI Cefn Druids
Kaze Progressa
Creedence Clearwater
AlanShearer
Bedistan
Alex The Tall
Garrard
Aquilla
Snub Nose 38
Ariddia
Ravenspire
EL CID THE HERO
Jeruselem
Halfassedstates
The Weegies
Nadeer
Brazillico
Santwa
Gormith
Hash n Beans
Fenisia
Kingsford
Costa Lot
OPArsenal
Vozvyshennost
Holy India
James A Hollar
Squornshelous
Talyllyn
Defari
Northern Wastestan
Lubistan
Dance 2 Revolution
Santwa
Oilermania
True Yorkshire
Lovisa
Svecia
Dokett
Erratic Blobs
Rinkeby
Valient
Indigo Islands
Patinhas

Puppets:
Oddslavo
Belmorian Scandinavia
Big Butts
The Master Cooper
East Spaam
Eaglet
Antaeus Rising
Stalag 5
Abysmalistan

[81]

Make that 82. Avenging Altos, puppet of KP, are back.

Please note, that if AS and I win the bid, we still haven't decided how many nations we wish to have....

stonedheads will not only make it's debut at this world cup but it will also win it.

stonedheads will not only make it's debut at this world cup but it will also win it.

If that happens, we will start worrying about the formula. :D

KP/Lemmy, btw, are provisionally working to the '12 groups of 8' structure used by TnUI/WW in WC11.

stonedheads will not only make it's debut at this world cup but it will also win it.

If that happens, we will start worrying about the formula. :D

KP/Lemmy, btw, are provisionally working to the '12 groups of 8' structure used by TnUI/WW in WC11.

14 groups of 6 sounds sweet though :P

15 of 6 would be easier. Top two go through.

15 of 6 would be easier. Top two go through.

But I like the idea of second chances for the 3rd place teams....

Hmmm... 13 groups of 7 (91 teams) with the top two going through, and then the third-placed teams (except the one with the worst record) into playoffs, would work...

15 of 6 would be easier. Top two go through.

I like this best myself. Ogle and I used it in WC8 (and I think Lemmy and Audio used it in WC7), and it's what I'm currently planning should I submit a hosting bid in the near future(WC13?)

BIG OOC

First, just want to thank TnUI for everything he's done for the WCC and World Cups for a VERY long time. He's done some great stuff for us all.

Second - LE, thanks for picking up the ball. Please check the list against those who've signed up. Example - Timway has signed up, but isnt on the list

lastly:

THANKS AGAIN, TnUI!
Sir Snub

Please note, that if AS and I win the bid, we still haven't decided how many nations we wish to have....

check your TGs spaam :)

15 of 6 would be easier. Top two go through.

I like this best myself. Ogle and I used it in WC8 (and I think Lemmy and Audio used it in WC7), and it's what I'm currently planning should I submit a hosting bid in the near future(WC13?)

tis indeed true, and it would be used again, if it wasnt for my new idea which i just TGed to Spaam :)

all shall be revealed... maybe...

lastly:

THANKS AGAIN, TnUI!

It just deserved repeating :D

if I can be

SIGN ME UP

"The Eagles Nest would appreciate the honor of competing against the best pitch sides out there. We re a new country, but our citizens yearn to see what they can do against the rest of the world."

Thomas Sedore
Minster of Sports
The Eagles Nest

IF (and it's a BIG if) Snub Nose 38 bids for and hosts/co-hosts WC13, we're looking at the possibility of NO autoqualifiers.

Wella will be enter.

IF (and it's a BIG if) Snub Nose 38 bids for and hosts/co-hosts WC13, we're looking at the possibility of NO autoqualifiers.

IF Audioslavia get to host one, we're going to go one better, and say that NOBODY will qualify! HAH, i can out-liberal you anyday :P

Is there any chance that we can set up a few friendly game for us first timers? It would be great if We got a chance to see how it all works.

Indigo
Master of the Indigo Islands

Hosting Bids:
TBF & TLC
NMS & CS
AS & Spaam
Lemmy & KP
LE & Timway

Teams:
Total n Utter Insanity
Oglethorpia
Liverpool England
The Lowland Clans
Zeronia
Sliponia
Dennisov
Cockbill Street
Rejistania
Iansisle
Mattigool
The Belmore Family
One Red Dot
Lemmitania
Spaam
Audioslavia
Warnocks Wizards
Kerla
Europa Brittania
Newcuba
Eauz
Tanah Burung
Praying2God
Commerce Heights
New Montreal States
Nikea
Giant Zucchini
NASTIC 2
NEWI Cefn Druids
Kaze Progressa
Creedence Clearwater
AlanShearer
Bedistan
Alex The Tall
Garrard
Aquilla
Snub Nose 38
Ariddia
Ravenspire
EL CID THE HERO
Jeruselem
Halfassedstates
The Weegies
Nadeer
Brazillico
Santwa
Gormith
Hash n Beans
Fenisia
Kingsford
Costa Lot
OPArsenal
Vozvyshennost
Holy India
James A Hollar
Squornshelous
Talyllyn
Defari
Northern Wastestan
Lubistan
Dance 2 Revolution
Santwa
Oilermania
True Yorkshire
Lovisa
Svecia
Dokett
Erratic Blobs
Rinkeby
Valient
Indigo Islands
Patinhas
Stonedheads
Timway
Rachakidia
The Eagles Nest
Wella

Puppets:
Oddslavo
Belmorian Scandinavia
Big Butts
The Master Cooper
East Spaam
Eaglet
Antaeus Rising
Stalag 5
Abysmalistan
Avenging Altos

[87]

In a show of new internationalism, Magnus Valerius has decided to enter its most qualified football players into the cup. We will be most honored if we can join in this most homorable event, and we shall be good sports.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire2/empvalens/Bastilus.PNG
Archduke Bastilus D'Souivons
Archduke of The Crown Empire and Director of Diplomacy

(In other words, count me in the cup, if I still can sign up!)

Well, with MV, we'd have 88 nations.

I'd say take 90, have 9 groups of 10 and take the top 3. 2 automatically qualifiying hosts makes 32 into the Cup proper.

That's just my proposal. The numbers work out, and simple = good = everyone's happy.

Hosting Bids:
TBF & TLC
NMS & CS
AS & Spaam
Lemmy & KP
LE & Timway

Teams:
Total n Utter Insanity
Oglethorpia
Liverpool England
The Lowland Clans
Zeronia
Sliponia
Dennisov
Cockbill Street
Rejistania
Iansisle
Mattigool
The Belmore Family
One Red Dot
Lemmitania
Spaam
Audioslavia
Warnocks Wizards
Kerla
Europa Brittania
Newcuba
Eauz
Tanah Burung
Praying2God
Commerce Heights
New Montreal States
Nikea
Giant Zucchini
NASTIC 2
NEWI Cefn Druids
Kaze Progressa
Creedence Clearwater
AlanShearer
Bedistan
Alex The Tall
Garrard
Aquilla
Snub Nose 38
Ariddia
Ravenspire
EL CID THE HERO
Jeruselem
Halfassedstates
The Weegies
Nadeer
Brazillico
Santwa
Gormith
Hash n Beans
Fenisia
Kingsford
Costa Lot
OPArsenal
Vozvyshennost
Holy India
James A Hollar
Squornshelous
Talyllyn
Defari
Northern Wastestan
Lubistan
Dance 2 Revolution
Santwa
Oilermania
True Yorkshire
Lovisa
Svecia
Dokett
Erratic Blobs
Rinkeby
Valient
Indigo Islands
Patinhas
Stonedheads
Timway
Rachakidia
The Eagles Nest
Wella
Magnus Valerius

Puppets:
Oddslavo
Belmorian Scandinavia
Big Butts
The Master Cooper
East Spaam
Eaglet
Antaeus Rising
Stalag 5
Abysmalistan
Avenging Altos

[88]

The nation of GMM is one of many sports aand one of which is soccer. So it would be a great honour if GMM could eneter its national team into this joyous event.

His Royal Highness
Emporer Leopold III

I would also like to hostthe world cup if possible. I will joint bid with any other nation willing and bid by myself if I cannot get another nation.

I'd RP a bit before you bid to host. We are not willing to leave the World Cup in the hands of a complete newb.

At the moment, AS and I are thinking of 14 groups of 6, which means 84 teams plus us, ie, 86 teams. Means top two qualify, plus 2 spots for the 3rd placed teams.

Well, with MV, we'd have 88 nations.

I'd say take 90, have 9 groups of 10 and take the top 3. 2 automatically qualifiying hosts makes 32 into the Cup proper.

That's just my proposal. The numbers work out, and simple = good = everyone's happy.
10 groups of 9 works (10 x 3). 9 groups of 10 doesn't (9 x 3 = 27)

If the co-hosts auto-qualify, then you have to sign up 92 - because whoever gets selected to host has already signed up, but won't be in a qualifying group. 10 groups of 9 = 18 qualifying matchdays
OR 15 groups of 6, top 2 go through. 10 matchdays.

OR, if there is a lot more interest, you could sign up 102 = 10 groups of 10, top 3 go through and with the 2 co-hosts you have 30. 10 groups of 10 = 20 qualifying matchdays


If the co-hosts don't auto-qualify, then you could take 90 (including the hosts), or 100 (including the hosts), or 96:

90 would be 9 groups of 10, top 3 qualify (27) + a set of elimination matches of the 9 4th place sides to select the final 5. 18 qualifying matchdays, plus five days of elimination matches (3 groups of 3, 2 matches, best 2 record in each group then move into two groups of 3, 2 matches, best 2 records qualify, last in each group has a final match with the winner qualifying

- OR - 10 groups of 9, top 3 qualify (30) + a set of elimination matches between the 10 4th place sides to select the final 2. 20 qualifying matchdays, four elimination days - 2 groups of five, 4 matches, best record in each group qualifies

100 would be 10 groups of 10, top 3 qualify + a set of elimination matches between the 4th place sides to select the final 2. 20 qualifying matchdays, four elimination days - 2 groups of five, 4 matches, best record in each group qualifies

96 would be 8 groups of 12, top 4 go through. 22 matchdays
OR
12 groups of 8, top 2 go through (24), then a set of elimination matches of the 12 3rd place sides to select the other 8. 14 matchdays plus 5 elimination matches (2 groups of 6, 5 matches, top 4 go through)

I suggest the WCC select WC12 hosts now for two reasons:
1. The co-hosts can get started planning WC12 now
2. The co-hosts can decide how they're gonna set it up, and that will determine how many to sign up.

---------------
Got carried away. There are a LOT of possible combinations. More reason for the WCC to select hosts now, so the hosts can get started.

OR, if there is a lot more interest, you could sign up 102 = 10 groups of 10, top 3 go through and with the 2 co-hosts you have 30. 10 groups of 10 = 20 qualifying matchdays

Actually, that's only 18 matchdays ((10 - 1) * 2). Yes, that's the same as 10 groups of 9, but with groups of 10 you don't have to add extra 'bye' days.

[quote=Snub Nose 38]OR, if there is a lot more interest, you could sign up 102 = 10 groups of 10, top 3 go through and with the 2 co-hosts you have 30. 10 groups of 10 = 20 qualifying matchdays

Actually, that's only 18 matchdays ((10 - 1) * 2). Yes, that's the same as 10 groups of 9, but with groups of 10 you don't have to add extra 'bye' days.[/quote
...gack...

*humbly stands corrected* :wink:

http://www.geocities.com/lifeobrien/audiospaam.txt

Audiospaam's logo (not the official logo, theres gonna be pictures as well once we find out who qualifies :P)

Well, with MV, we'd have 88 nations.

I'd say take 90, have 9 groups of 10 and take the top 3. 2 automatically qualifiying hosts makes 32 into the Cup proper.

That's just my proposal. The numbers work out, and simple = good = everyone's happy.

<snip>



Whoops.

Well, I trust Snub more than I trust me. So uh, what he said.

And look at Audioslavia's "Audiospaam" logo in the style of Metallica's logo :D

Sorry I'm ana manu and I'm not a newb [size=29][color=red] OK! [/color=red][/size=29] so can I join the world cup. i have rped before. i was in the first hockey world cup check the archives

Sorry I'm ana manu and I'm not a newb OK! so can I join the world cup. i have rped before. i was in the first hockey world cup check the archives

President Trevor T. Druid says...

"Remember, kids - don't be embarrassed to double post! In fact, tell the world!!! But whatever you do, never delete them - you'll only make life harder for yourself, as well as those around you"

This has been a publicity clip on behalf of the NEWI Cefn Druids Ministry of Wrong.

Sorry I'm ana manu and I'm not a newb OK! so can I join the world cup. i have rped before. i was in the first hockey world cup check the archives

Er... well for one, we don't doubt your RPing history in the FHWC, But this, at a guess, would be your first football World Cup. As a result, you can only enter the World Cup as either Grand master Mark or Ana Manu. Not both at htis stage. But, if puppets will still be allowed when WCXIII comes around, you might well be allowed to enter one then.

However, where you seem to have unnerved a few people is where you have expressed an interest in hosting the tournament. As this is your first WC, then the WCC, who vote for the hosts, are not going to vote for you. They are all experienced in WC terms, and know better than giving the hosting rights to a newb (unless they lose all common sense). So you are welcome to enter one of your nations, but we advise you withdraw the hosting bid straight away. If you're still around in a few World Cups time, then maybe you might want to host it then, but not yet.

This is a public service announcement:

"Don't delete double posts."

This has been a message from the Bedistan Department of Apathetic Announcements.

In the interest of fairness, I should point out that I remember GMM from before -- World Cup 7, I think. (It wasn't 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, or 11, so it must've been 7. :P) Still, that would make him effectively a newbie.

In the interest of advocating not deleting your posts, here's a snippet from the World Cup 11 Roleplaying thread :D


Bureaucratic Broadcasting Network Sports [channel]

A short minute-long commercial begins running on the station with well-known (and infamous) Oglethorpian commentator Mike White.

MIKE WHITE: Hey folks. Some of you are using the primitive technology of phpBB.

Long have Oglethorpian IT business men and analysts languished over it's shortcomings -- notably phantom pages, of which we all loathe and hate.

However, it's a problem that you -- me -- and this small rodent-

[A picture of a small rodent is shown.]

Can all work towards fixing.

How, you ask? How can we fix this problem?

We'll i'll tell you.

DON'T DELETE YOUR POSTS IF YOU DOUBLE/TRIPLE POST!

It seriously messes things up for the rest of us.

Thank you. Now we will return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

But not before showing you the picture of that lovable rodent again.

[The picture of the small rodent is shown again.]

Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Gesamtkuntswerk is in.

Discounting GMM's hosting bid.......

Hosting Bids:
TBF & TLC (Previous Bids - 0)
NMS & CS (Previous Bids - 0)
AS & Spaam (Previous Bids - 0)
Lemmy & KP (Previous Bids - 0)
LE & Timway (Previous Bids - 1 - WC8)

Teams:
Total n Utter Insanity
Oglethorpia
Liverpool England
The Lowland Clans
Zeronia
Sliponia
Dennisov
Cockbill Street
Rejistania
Iansisle
Mattigool
The Belmore Family
One Red Dot
Lemmitania
Spaam
Audioslavia
Warnocks Wizards
Kerla
Europa Brittania
Newcuba
Eauz
Tanah Burung
Praying2God
Commerce Heights
New Montreal States
Nikea
Giant Zucchini
NASTIC 2
NEWI Cefn Druids
Kaze Progressa
Creedence Clearwater
AlanShearer
Bedistan
Alex The Tall
Garrard
Aquilla
Snub Nose 38
Ariddia
Ravenspire
EL CID THE HERO
Jeruselem
Halfassedstates
The Weegies
Nadeer
Brazillico
Santwa
Gormith
Hash n Beans
Fenisia
Kingsford
Costa Lot
OPArsenal
Vozvyshennost
Holy India
James A Hollar
Squornshelous
Talyllyn
Defari
Northern Wastestan
Lubistan
Dance 2 Revolution
Santwa
Oilermania
True Yorkshire
Lovisa
Svecia
Dokett
Erratic Blobs
Rinkeby
Valient
Indigo Islands
Patinhas
Stonedheads
Timway
Rachakidia
The Eagles Nest
Wella
Magnus Valerius
Grand Master Mark
Gesamtkuntswerk

Puppets:
Oddslavo
Belmorian Scandinavia
Big Butts
The Master Cooper
East Spaam
Eaglet
Antaeus Rising
Stalag 5
Abysmalistan
Avenging Altos

[90]

If there's still room, SI would like in.

SI

If there's still room, SI would like in.

SI

You can have my place. Due to lack of time, Ariddia won't be participating in WC12. *gasp*

I'll still be collecting hosting votes, keeping up with WCC discussions, and making the official hosting announcement, of course. I know skipping a Cup (or more) will damage my ranking, but, ah well... It'll be a challenge for the team when they come back. ;)

What seems like ages ago, I started this whole thing rolling... and roll it has. You've all contributed to make it into something great. Twelve editions of the World Cup!! I'd never have dreamt of that back in the early days... So, be proud. And, most importantly of all, the one thing to keep in mind...
... have fun!

I'll try to RP in WC11, and then... I'll you all around...

The rapidly emerging footballing nation of Flackatania would love to show the world it's fluid brand of total football. Is it too late to get involved?

The rapidly emerging footballing nation of Flackatania would love to show the world it's fluid brand of total football. Is it too late to get involved?

The rapidly emerging footballing nation of Flackatania would love to show the world it's fluid brand of total football. Is it too late to get involved?

The rapidly emerging footballing nation of Flackatania would love to show the world it's fluid brand of total football. Is it too late to get involved?

The rapidly emerging footballing nation of Flackatania would love to show the world it's fluid brand of total football. Is it too late to get involved?

Telewest will enter world cup 12 if there are still spaces.

If there's still room, SI would like in.

SI

You can have my place. Due to lack of time, Ariddia won't be participating in WC12. *gasp*

I'll still be collecting hosting votes, keeping up with WCC discussions, and making the official hosting announcement, of course. I know skipping a Cup (or more) will damage my ranking, but, ah well... It'll be a challenge for the team when they come back. ;)

What seems like ages ago, I started this whole thing rolling... and roll it has. You've all contributed to make it into something great. Twelve editions of the World Cup!! I'd never have dreamt of that back in the early days... So, be proud. And, most importantly of all, the one thing to keep in mind...
... have fun!

I'll try to RP in WC11, and then... I'll you all around...
The Minister of...well, ALL the ministers are aghast! :wink:

Hosting Bids:
TBF & TLC (Previous Bids - 0)
NMS & CS (Previous Bids - 0)
AS & Spaam (Previous Bids - 0)
Lemmy & KP (Previous Bids - 0)
LE & Timway (Previous Bids - 1 - WC8)


oh puh-lease Mr. Subtle Propaganda :P

if anyone must know, Lemmy, AS and Spaam are the only countries with WC hosting experience, although TBF, NMS, CS and KP all have hosting experience in other sports/competitions.

if anyone must know, Lemmy, AS and Spaam are the only countries with WC hosting experience, although TBF, NMS, CS and KP all have hosting experience in other sports/competitions.

And Spaam not so much. Though he's surely contributed enough to the WC over the months.

If there's still room, SI would like in.

SI

You can have my place. Due to lack of time, Ariddia won't be participating in WC12. *gasp*

I'll still be collecting hosting votes, keeping up with WCC discussions, and making the official hosting announcement, of course. I know skipping a Cup (or more) will damage my ranking, but, ah well... It'll be a challenge for the team when they come back. ;)

What seems like ages ago, I started this whole thing rolling... and roll it has. You've all contributed to make it into something great. Twelve editions of the World Cup!! I'd never have dreamt of that back in the early days... So, be proud. And, most importantly of all, the one thing to keep in mind...
... have fun!

I'll try to RP in WC11, and then... I'll you all around...

TBF congratulates Ariddia for their great contribution to world Football over the last 46 years.

If there's still room, SI would like in.

SI

You can have my place. Due to lack of time, Ariddia won't be participating in WC12. *gasp*

I'll still be collecting hosting votes, keeping up with WCC discussions, and making the official hosting announcement, of course. I know skipping a Cup (or more) will damage my ranking, but, ah well... It'll be a challenge for the team when they come back. ;)

What seems like ages ago, I started this whole thing rolling... and roll it has. You've all contributed to make it into something great. Twelve editions of the World Cup!! I'd never have dreamt of that back in the early days... So, be proud. And, most importantly of all, the one thing to keep in mind...
... have fun!

I'll try to RP in WC11, and then... I'll you all around...

TBF congratulates Ariddia for their great contribution to world Football over the last 46 years.

TBF congratulates Ariddia for their great contribution to world Football over the last 46 years.

The Bedistan Football Association seconds this statement.

TBF congratulates Ariddia for their great contribution to world Football over the last 46 years.

The Bedistan Football Association seconds this statement.

TBF congratulates Ariddia for their great contribution to world Football over the last 46 years.

The Bedistan Football Association seconds this statement.

The FANCD third (?) this.

before I go revolutionary on all y'all, let me propose this idea to you, because it might be used in a Kingsford hosting bid sometime in the future.


Ok, we'll start with qualifying, since it itself is complicated.

You have 102 teams. 2 hosts, auto qualify.

So you split the remaining 100 teams into 20 groups of 5.

Now, you take the teams seated 3rd (41-60), 4th (61-80), and 5th (81-100), and play the following schedule

3 v 4
3 v 5
4 v 5
4 v 3
5 v 3
5 v 4
3 v 4
3 v 5
4 v 5

And the bottom team is then eliminated. It's place is taken by the 2nd seated team in the group (21-40_, and you play a similar schedule. Once again, the bottom team is elimated. The bottom team's place is then taken by the first seated team in the group (1-20). Once again, the same schedule is played with the three remaining teams.

The top two teams from each group (20) + the two hosts (2) + the two best performing 3rd placed teams (2) qualify, for a total of 24

Should there be more than two teams in the third place position for the top two spots, a playoff would be held to narrow the field down to two teams.

So anyways, we have 24 teams. Cool. Onto the World Cup itself.

So you take the 24 teams, and you put them into six groups of four. each team plays the others once, for a total of three games, and the top two teams advance.

So now we have 12 teams. What we do now is place those 12 teams into four groups of three. Each team plays eachother once and the top one team from each group advances. That gives us four teams.

We now go directly into the semifinals. The two winning teams play the final match, and the two losing teams play the match for third place.

So that's it. A new format of the World Cup.



In case you might have noticed, this format is the same as Spain 1982. The qualifying is the original Kingsford work, combined with the Spain world cup. If this idea is well received, then I might implement it, should I get a hosting bid. Hey, at least it's not like 1978 Argentina. Pah.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

hey, Mr Subtle Reminder, LE did host a FHWC.

All right...
Hosting Bids:
TBF & TLC (Previous Bids - 0)
NMS & CS (Previous Bids - 0)
AS & Spaam (Previous Bids - 0)
Lemmy & KP (Previous Bids - 0)
LE & Timway (Previous Bids - 1 - WC8)

Teams:
Total n Utter Insanity
Oglethorpia
Liverpool England
The Lowland Clans
Zeronia
Sliponia
Dennisov
Cockbill Street
Rejistania
Iansisle
Mattigool
The Belmore Family
One Red Dot
Lemmitania
Spaam
Audioslavia
Warnocks Wizards
Kerla
Europa Brittania
Newcuba
Eauz
Tanah Burung
Praying2God
Commerce Heights
New Montreal States
Nikea
Giant Zucchini
NASTIC 2
NEWI Cefn Druids
Kaze Progressa
Creedence Clearwater
AlanShearer
Bedistan
Alex The Tall
Garrard
Aquilla
Snub Nose 38
Ravenspire
EL CID THE HERO
Jeruselem
Halfassedstates
The Weegies
Nadeer
Brazillico
Santwa
Gormith
Hash n Beans
Fenisia
Kingsford
Costa Lot
OPArsenal
Vozvyshennost
Holy India
James A Hollar
Squornshelous
Talyllyn
Defari
Northern Wastestan
Lubistan
Dance 2 Revolution
Santwa
Oilermania
True Yorkshire
Lovisa
Svecia
Dokett
Erratic Blobs
Rinkeby
Valient
Indigo Islands
Patinhas
Stonedheads
Timway
Rachakidia
The Eagles Nest
Wella
Magnus Valerius
Grand Master Mark
Gesamtkuntswerk
SterlingIce
Flacktania
Telewest

Puppets:
Oddslavo
Belmorian Scandinavia
Big Butts
The Master Cooper
East Spaam
Eaglet
Antaeus Rising
Stalag 5
Abysmalistan
Avenging Altos
(92!!!)

im a world cup virgin
:oops:
sign me up! 8)

You can have my place. Due to lack of time, Ariddia won't be participating in WC12. *gasp*

I'll still be collecting hosting votes, keeping up with WCC discussions, and making the official hosting announcement, of course. I know skipping a Cup (or more) will damage my ranking, but, ah well... It'll be a challenge for the team when they come back. ;)

What seems like ages ago, I started this whole thing rolling... and roll it has. You've all contributed to make it into something great. Twelve editions of the World Cup!! I'd never have dreamt of that back in the early days... So, be proud. And, most importantly of all, the one thing to keep in mind...
... have fun!

I'll try to RP in WC11, and then... I'll you all around...

~cries~

Thats pretty amazing though.... 40 years worth of World Cup. (Yes TBF, you are wrong. 11 cups = 40 years. And there was no qualifying in the first cup.) We'll miss you though!

rar rar rar

worst... idea... ever.... the reason they changed the amount of teams from 24 to 32 between Italia '90 and USA '94 was because, at the end of the first round, only eight teams got knocked out, and it was a bit pointless.

Do you just have a trophy case of dreams, ideas, and ambitions that you've killed or shot down? :wink:

Oh well, I'm a revolutionary. Sometimes revolutionary ideas aren't always good.

New Idea. We put all the names in a hat, and the first drawn wins the tournament.

I rue you, double posts.

New Idea. We put all the names in a hat, and the first drawn wins the tournament.

WITH RP BONUSES!

New Idea. We put all the names in a hat, and the first drawn wins the tournament.

What a novel idea. Maybe we could write down ranks on the sheets beside the names so we could all bitch about how crooked the system is when someone who isn't no.1 wins!

The winner is @@NAME@@.

Everyone goes home happy.

Why not just vote for the winner? It should really be a popularity contest, anyway. We could change the name to, "The NationStates World Cup Most Likely To Succeed" award.

I like the "Picking Names Out of a Hat" idea...but only if the Snub Nose 38 Minister of Picking Numbers Out Of A Hat, Anita Brake, does the "picking". :wink:

Otherwise, we could...hold a football competition, where the results are determined by...random numbers? this, of course, must be read in a voice absolutely dripping in sarcasm

this, of course, must be read in a voice absolutely dripping in sarcasm

ew, ive got sarcasm all over my shirt now :(

Please tell me how to play the World Cup.

The People's Republic of Candombe want to play the next edition.

Please tell me how to play the World Cup.

The People's Republic of Candombe want to play the next edition.

This one is full. TnUI, edit the title.

With the final stages of WC11 underway, it's probably time to start casting your votes for hosts. ;) WC members, just send me your vote by telegram, as usual.

Oh, and thanks to you. I'm touched. :oops:

Please tell me how to play the World Cup.

The People's Republic of Candombe want to play the next edition.Read the first post of this thread. Then if you have questions, post them and someone will answer.

With the final stages of WC11 underway, it's probably time to start casting your votes for hosts. ;) WC members, just send me your vote by telegram, as usual.

Oh, and thanks to you. I'm touched. :oops:Well...you're just a little touched, but we like you all the same. :wink:

With the final stages of WC11 underway, it's probably time to start casting your votes for hosts. ;) WC members, just send me your vote by telegram, as usual.

Oh, and thanks to you. I'm touched. :oops:Well...you're just a little touched, but we like you all the same. :wink:

Now THAT was easy! And true, of course. :P

Might be an idea to list whose puppet is who for the benefit of the host to avoid Spaamgate-style incidents (or ones where the puppet is unclear; TnUI drew AR once because the hosts didn't know AR was TnUI's puppet).

Here's the list as far as I know...

Puppets:
Oddslavo (of LE)
Belmorian Scandinavia (of TBF)
Big Butts (of Halfassedstates)
The Master Cooper (of NEWI Cefn Druids)
East Spaam (of Spaam)
Eaglet
Antaeus Rising (of TnUI)
Stalag 5
Abysmalistan (of Rejistania)
Avenging Altos (of Kaze Progressa)