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Because it is not natural a society or species of Homosexuals would be extinct within one generation. Therefore it can not be something that would be a dominant trait in society and would be hardpressed to even be a reccesive trait therefore making it a deformatity.

AKA: Let's kill everyone born with less limbs! Or Down Syndrome! Or the Mentally Handicapped! HITLER YOUTH! PERFECT KIDS! SUPER RACE! RAH RAH RAH!

Hahahaha you crack me up. Nice to see some reasonable people in this thread, I've been stuck here for a while with no one but assholes and bigots (yeah, same thing, I know) to keep me company...

Here's a question:

Can you control what gives you a hardon?
How can you expect these people to?
And what if they truly find love in a person of the same sex?
Is it wrong to love that person?

And I noticed only gay men are being addressed. Seems you christians dont get so riled up about Lesbians, eh? Know why that is? If you do, please tell me, because from here it only looks like more capitalistic hypocracy.

<i>"When I can watch it and get a hardon, hurrah! If it might hit on me when I dont want it to, BOO!"</i>

Of course, the Dominion has no OFFICIAL opinion....

well men are usually the ones most associated in talks about homosexuality. Im just as against Lesbians as I am against gays.

as to ur questions: 1.yes
2. mind over matter
3. You can be great friends with someone of the same sex to the point that it could be considered a love but theres a difference between a friendship love and in love and "in love" you are only supposed to share with a member of the opposite sex.
4. As a friend no. as something more yes.

The USSM, along with all other denizens of Fististan, strongly condemns this action by Belem and the other fascist bigots on the forum. First, homosexuality isn't wrong or bad, it is simply a natural, unchangeable thing. It is a fact of life, and people need to realize that. Also, the government has no business legislating who people have feelings for. That is despicable. We would like to warn you that further human rights abuses may be considered grounds for military intervention, depending on circumstances. You may not fear us now, looking at our stats, but nations grow, and we have many allies. We demand that you rescind your crackdown (this applies to all nations agreeing with Belem) and apologize to those you have wronged.

People's Representative of the USSM, UN Delegate of Fististan

Because it is not natural a society or species of Homosexuals would be extinct within one generation. Therefore it can not be something that would be a dominant trait in society and would be hardpressed to even be a reccesive trait therefore making it a deformatity.

AKA: Let's kill everyone born with less limbs! Or Down Syndrome! Or the Mentally Handicapped! HITLER YOUTH! PERFECT KIDS! SUPER RACE! RAH RAH RAH!

Not saying you should kill them they shouldnt be allowed to reproduce your just propagating a line then that will be subject to health problems.

Here's a question:

Can you control what gives you a hardon?
How can you expect these people to?
And what if they truly find love in a person of the same sex?
Is it wrong to love that person?

And I noticed only gay men are being addressed. Seems you christians dont get so riled up about Lesbians, eh? Know why that is? If you do, please tell me, because from here it only looks like more capitalistic hypocracy.

<i>"When I can watch it and get a hardon, hurrah! If it might hit on me when I dont want it to, BOO!"</i>

Of course, the Dominion has no OFFICIAL opinion....

well men are usually the ones most associated in talks about homosexuality. Im just as against Lesbians as I am against gays.

as to ur questions: 1.yes

Hahahaha, a downright lie...

2. mind over matter

I will this pile of paper to turn into platinum. Dammit, its not working!

3. You can be great friends with someone of the same sex to the point that it could be considered a love but theres a difference between a friendship love and in love and "in love" you are only supposed to share with a member of the opposite sex.

And who are you to say who we can love and who we can't?

4. As a friend no. as something more yes.
Yeah, and I thought that Christianity was supposed to be all about love... :roll:

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813

Because it is not natural a society or species of Homosexuals would be extinct within one generation. Therefore it can not be something that would be a dominant trait in society and would be hardpressed to even be a reccesive trait therefore making it a deformatity.
No, I have just given you evidence that it is natural, you are ignoring what I say. I have cited examples, while you have given your hole riddled logic.

There are theories that homosexuality may have arised as a natural method of population control. Furthermore, it reduces the strain on a society by reducing the amount of people born, which becomes more people to feed.

Many genetic diseases are recessive traits, but look at us; we're not overrun by them. Also, a recessive trait does not equate a deformity; blond hair is recessive, does that mean all blond people are ill?

Of course, your point never existed in the first place, because its obvious that our population is not totally compromised of homosexuals, nor close to it.

I would go dig up some sources online but I have more important things to do with my time.

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813
We applaud this action, and our nation has also issued a strong condemnation and sanctions. Furthermore, our borders are open to all who are fleeing oppressive nations, such as Belem.

We request the Security Council hold a special conference on the issue of Belem committing genocide against its citizens, and urge immediate action.

Belem: Concession Accepted.

Here's a question:

Can you control what gives you a hardon?
How can you expect these people to?
And what if they truly find love in a person of the same sex?
Is it wrong to love that person?

And I noticed only gay men are being addressed. Seems you christians dont get so riled up about Lesbians, eh? Know why that is? If you do, please tell me, because from here it only looks like more capitalistic hypocracy.

<i>"When I can watch it and get a hardon, hurrah! If it might hit on me when I dont want it to, BOO!"</i>

Of course, the Dominion has no OFFICIAL opinion....

well men are usually the ones most associated in talks about homosexuality. Im just as against Lesbians as I am against gays.

as to ur questions: 1.yes

Hahahaha, a downright lie...

2. mind over matter

I will this pile of paper to turn into platinum. Dammit, its not working!

3. You can be great friends with someone of the same sex to the point that it could be considered a love but theres a difference between a friendship love and in love and "in love" you are only supposed to share with a member of the opposite sex.

And who are you to say who we can love and who we can't?

4. As a friend no. as something more yes.
Yeah, and I thought that Christianity was supposed to be all about love... :roll:

1. nope truth I just have to take my mind off of whatever girl in a tube top that I saw :D

2. its just an expression it doesnt work on something thats not connected to you. think of it as the guys who walk on the hot coals.

3. Im saying u can love them as a friend.

4. you can love people as friends, u can love em as your brother. but you are only supposed to be in love with a member of an opposite sex.

so nsulting peole over perfectly natural things that they can't control, and that isn't wrong is a better use of your time? what does it matter who people love? i don't think gender,race, religion, etc. should matter. we are all humans. all emotional beings. the more love the better, whatever form it takes.

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813

Such a small nation boycotting Belem would have no effect on Belem trade.

Because it is not natural a society or species of Homosexuals would be extinct within one generation. Therefore it can not be something that would be a dominant trait in society and would be hardpressed to even be a reccesive trait therefore making it a deformatity.

AKA: Let's kill everyone born with less limbs! Or Down Syndrome! Or the Mentally Handicapped! HITLER YOUTH! PERFECT KIDS! SUPER RACE! RAH RAH RAH!

Not saying you should kill them they shouldnt be allowed to reproduce your just propagating a line then that will be subject to health problems.


Belem
Postmaster-General

anyone found out will be given two choices 1. to be sent to a mental institution until they are deemed cured or considered incurable and executed or 2. shot outright.

great, now being shot/executed for being gay does not constitute killing gays... what is this world COMING to

the (rather newly formed) government of kaliva would like to officially condemn Belem for being "PHYSCOPATHIC ASSHOLES" as one official summed up.
however, we are happy to deport all of our homegrown human-rights violators to your country.

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813

Such a small nation boycotting Belem would have no effect on Belem trade.

Hey, don't worry, there are plenty of bigger nations (for example, my own) who are more than glad to pick up the slack. Plus, as I am a colonel in my region of +80, I have plenty of clout there. And I am UN delegate as well, and will soon be proposing that my entire region ban all trade with your disgusting country. Sounds good?

YES!!!!! SANITY IN THIS THREAD, AT LAST!!!!

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813
We applaud this action, and our nation has also issued a strong condemnation and sanctions. Furthermore, our borders are open to all who are fleeing oppressive nations, such as Belem.

We request the Security Council hold a special conference on the issue of Belem committing genocide against its citizens, and urge immediate action.

Belem: Concession Accepted.We've just checked your budget and even if you put 100% into military you'd be no match for our Air Force. So try what you want we Are ready. :P

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813

Such a small nation boycotting Belem would have no effect on Belem trade.

Hey, don't worry, there are plenty of bigger nations (for example, my own) who are more than glad to pick up the slack. Plus, as I am a colonel in my region of +80, I have plenty of clout there. And I am UN delegate as well, and will soon be proposing that my entire region ban all trade with your disgusting country. Sounds good?

Belem is over 10 times your size still. In a world made up of thousands of nations the boycott of 80 nations is nothing.

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813
We applaud this action, and our nation has also issued a strong condemnation and sanctions. Furthermore, our borders are open to all who are fleeing oppressive nations, such as Belem.

We request the Security Council hold a special conference on the issue of Belem committing genocide against its citizens, and urge immediate action.

Belem: Concession Accepted.We've just checked your budget and even if you put 100% into military you'd be no match for our Air Force. So try what you want we Are ready. :P

I repeat, there is a plethora of other nations who are more than willing to back up Simsington.

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813

Such a small nation boycotting Belem would have no effect on Belem trade.

Hey, don't worry, there are plenty of bigger nations (for example, my own) who are more than glad to pick up the slack. Plus, as I am a colonel in my region of +80, I have plenty of clout there. And I am UN delegate as well, and will soon be proposing that my entire region ban all trade with your disgusting country. Sounds good?

Belem is over 10 times your size still. In a world made up of thousands of nations the boycott of 80 nations is nothing.

In a region made up of 80 nations, the population of all of them combined is certainly many times over Belem's, is it not? It becomes something. You better not try to explain this one with a pathetic citation from the Bible..

Especially since YOUR region, as I might point out, has only 18 nations in it. cough cough PATHETIC!

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813
We applaud this action, and our nation has also issued a strong condemnation and sanctions. Furthermore, our borders are open to all who are fleeing oppressive nations, such as Belem.

We request the Security Council hold a special conference on the issue of Belem committing genocide against its citizens, and urge immediate action.

Belem: Concession Accepted.We've just checked your budget and even if you put 100% into military you'd be no match for our Air Force. So try what you want we Are ready. :P
But you are no match for the Security Council, which commands the military forces of the UN. And mark my words, my nation will prosper...

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

Especially since YOUR region, as I might point out, has only 18 nations in it. cough cough PATHETIC!

Oi, my region has.... three..... but we are working hard for our cause! Martian Gallileo Valley is Pro-Homosexual!

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813
We applaud this action, and our nation has also issued a strong condemnation and sanctions. Furthermore, our borders are open to all who are fleeing oppressive nations, such as Belem.

We request the Security Council hold a special conference on the issue of Belem committing genocide against its citizens, and urge immediate action.

Belem: Concession Accepted.We've just checked your budget and even if you put 100% into military you'd be no match for our Air Force. So try what you want we Are ready. :P
But you are no match for the Security Council, which commands the military forces of the UN. And mark my words, my nation will prosper...

the U.N. has no power here.

Do not underestimate the diversity and power of Frith's allies, who will gladly serve Frith by banning trade with you as well. And if all the sensible people who've already responded to this thread boycott you as well, you may have a problem on your hands.

The Holy Empire of Buka Makalu along with 10 of it's allies pledge their assistance to belm should this pathetic bunch of loonies stretch this trivial debate to arms.

- Minister for Defense Supreme General Hilda Kylvonski

Do not underestimate the diversity and power of Frith's allies, who will gladly serve Frith by banning trade with you as well. And if all the sensible people who've already responded to this thread boycott you as well, you may have a problem on your hands.

Belem will be fine. We can support ourselves by just trading with the NCA which Belem is a member of the ruling council, the reich and other such groups.

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..

Well our region is invite only. Most of my alliances are spread across different regions.

Large anti-Belem demonstrations are taking place all across Cho-to-ki, particularly in the capital city. The Ministry of Revolutionary Fervor (name subject to near weekly changes) reports that the Belemian flag has resumed the number one spot for "Most Burned Flag" in Cho-to-ki.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is offering asylum to any persecuted gays, bisexuals, transgendered, or others in Belem. Amnesty and shelter will be granted for those that persue armed struggle against the Belemian regime.

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813

Such a small nation boycotting Belem would have no effect on Belem trade.

Hey, don't worry, there are plenty of bigger nations (for example, my own) who are more than glad to pick up the slack. Plus, as I am a colonel in my region of +80, I have plenty of clout there. And I am UN delegate as well, and will soon be proposing that my entire region ban all trade with your disgusting country. Sounds good?

Belem is over 10 times your size still. In a world made up of thousands of nations the boycott of 80 nations is nothing.

from what Simsington said, it sounds like they are only embargoing Belem itself, not the whole region. Kaluknukala will also boycott Belem, but due to our small size, we can't except any refugees.

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..

OK KAG, time for you to sit down and shut up. As much as I disagree with Belem's belief's, you're being an ass. So stop being an ass, get back into IC, and move on, k?

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813
We applaud this action, and our nation has also issued a strong condemnation and sanctions. Furthermore, our borders are open to all who are fleeing oppressive nations, such as Belem.

We request the Security Council hold a special conference on the issue of Belem committing genocide against its citizens, and urge immediate action.

Belem: Concession Accepted.We've just checked your budget and even if you put 100% into military you'd be no match for our Air Force. So try what you want we Are ready. :P
But you are no match for the Security Council, which commands the military forces of the UN. And mark my words, my nation will prosper...

the U.N. has no power here.
Tell me that when their tanks are blitzing through your territories, their troops advancing, and their planes laying waste to your cities.

Large anti-Belem demonstrations are taking place all across Cho-to-ki, particularly in the capital city. The Ministry of Revolutionary Fervor (name subject to near weekly changes) reports that the Belemian flag has resumed the number one spot for "Most Burned Flag" in Cho-to-ki.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is offering asylum to any persecuted gays, bisexuals, transgendered, or others in Belem. Amnesty and shelter will be granted for those that persue armed struggle against the Belemian regime.

Want to buy some flags?

The Dominion of Genworks hereby is ceasing the sale of our software and hardware, such as missile guidance systems, operating systems, android artificial intellegence, etc, to any country in the "Axis of Anti-Homosexuality".

This ends our trade agreement with these countries.... seeing as those are our only major export.

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813
We applaud this action, and our nation has also issued a strong condemnation and sanctions. Furthermore, our borders are open to all who are fleeing oppressive nations, such as Belem.

We request the Security Council hold a special conference on the issue of Belem committing genocide against its citizens, and urge immediate action.

Belem: Concession Accepted.We've just checked your budget and even if you put 100% into military you'd be no match for our Air Force. So try what you want we Are ready. :P
But you are no match for the Security Council, which commands the military forces of the UN. And mark my words, my nation will prosper...

the U.N. has no power here.
Tell me that when their tanks are blitzing through your territories, their troops advancing, and their planes laying waste to your cities.

Read my message to KAG, Exonerate. You've proved your point. Move on.

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..

Well our region is invite only. Most of my alliances are spread across different regions.

Exactly. What I mean is, who would WANT to be allied with such a puny, snobbish region as yours?

the government of the Republic of Simsington has issued a trade embargo with Liberal California against Belem. we are keeping our embassy open. we would like to announce that all refugees coming from Belem are welcome into Simsington. if you would like a free plane ticket to Sims City, contact our Embassy in Belem's capital.

Phone #: 13-(507)-768-0046-9813
We applaud this action, and our nation has also issued a strong condemnation and sanctions. Furthermore, our borders are open to all who are fleeing oppressive nations, such as Belem.

We request the Security Council hold a special conference on the issue of Belem committing genocide against its citizens, and urge immediate action.

Belem: Concession Accepted.We've just checked your budget and even if you put 100% into military you'd be no match for our Air Force. So try what you want we Are ready. :P
But you are no match for the Security Council, which commands the military forces of the UN. And mark my words, my nation will prosper...

the U.N. has no power here.
Tell me that when their tanks are blitzing through your territories, their troops advancing, and their planes laying waste to your cities.

lets see first off in NS there is no UN security council. second there is no UN peacekeeping force third not once in the 6 months have I been on NS has there been a single UN action.

Read my message to KAG, Exonerate. You've proved your point. Move on.
In my defense, when I started typing my message, yours was not posted yet.

Large anti-Belem demonstrations are taking place all across Cho-to-ki, particularly in the capital city. The Ministry of Revolutionary Fervor (name subject to near weekly changes) reports that the Belemian flag has resumed the number one spot for "Most Burned Flag" in Cho-to-ki.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is offering asylum to any persecuted gays, bisexuals, transgendered, or others in Belem. Amnesty and shelter will be granted for those that persue armed struggle against the Belemian regime.

Want to buy some flags?

When we could easily violate product patents and recycle partially burned flags of other nations for much cheaper? I think not!

Read my message to KAG, Exonerate. You've proved your point. Move on.
In my defense, when I started typing my message, yours was not posted yet.

True, but now that you have seen it, by all means, listen.

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..

Well our region is invite only. Most of my alliances are spread across different regions.

Exactly. What I mean is, who would WANT to be allied with such a puny, snobbish region as yours?

The alliances arent through my region. I have established the alliances outside of my region. the region itself is one alliance and I have alliances outside of the region that are not associated with my region in anyway.

Large anti-Belem demonstrations are taking place all across Cho-to-ki, particularly in the capital city. The Ministry of Revolutionary Fervor (name subject to near weekly changes) reports that the Belemian flag has resumed the number one spot for "Most Burned Flag" in Cho-to-ki.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is offering asylum to any persecuted gays, bisexuals, transgendered, or others in Belem. Amnesty and shelter will be granted for those that persue armed struggle against the Belemian regime.

Want to buy some flags?

When we could easily violate product patents and recycle partially burned flags of other nations for much cheaper? I think not!

doesn't phase the government it just can be used to show our people how evil and barbariac everyone else is.

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..

OK KAG, time for you to sit down and shut up. As much as I disagree with Belem's belief's, you're being an ass. So stop being an ass, get back into IC, and move on, k?

OK C-G, time for you to sit down and stop whining about it and being bossy. As far as I can see, Belem has not gotten the point that homosexuality is wrong and I plan to continue posting on this until he does. If you're ready to give up, then I could care less, but don't try to control my efforts. Anti-homophobic nations should unite against Belem, rather than try to control one another.

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..

OK KAG, time for you to sit down and shut up. As much as I disagree with Belem's belief's, you're being an ass. So stop being an ass, get back into IC, and move on, k?

OK C-G, time for you to sit down and stop whining about it and being bossy. As far as I can see, Belem has not gotten the point that homosexuality is wrong and I plan to continue posting on this until he does. If you're ready to give up, then I could care less, but don't try to control my efforts. Anti-homophobic nations should unite against Belem, rather than try to control one another.

KAG, you prove nothing except for your own foolishness. To step WAY outside the IC, this is the Friggin internet. You're not going to change someone's intrenched belief over the internet. All you can do is state what you believe, state why you think they are wrong, give them proof for your opinion, and hope that when you two stop talking, you've givin them something to think about.

The more you attack Belem, the less likely he will be to listen.

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..
Wow such BIG words (giggles)

I repeat, do not keep trying to control other nations. (btw, i visited your country; not surprised to find it a dictatorship... one more thing for you to control.) I am doing exactly what you said- continuing to state my opinion and hope that Belem changes his mind. This is the 'FRIGGIN' internet, which is why I threaten Belem, because we're basically RPing it. So shut up and stop whining!

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..

OK KAG, time for you to sit down and shut up. As much as I disagree with Belem's belief's, you're being an ass. So stop being an ass, get back into IC, and move on, k?

OK C-G, time for you to sit down and stop whining about it and being bossy. As far as I can see, Belem has not gotten the point that homosexuality is wrong and I plan to continue posting on this until he does. If you're ready to give up, then I could care less, but don't try to control my efforts. Anti-homophobic nations should unite against Belem, rather than try to control one another.

KAG, you prove nothing except for your own foolishness. To step WAY outside the IC, this is the Friggin internet. You're not going to change someone's intrenched belief over the internet. All you can do is state what you believe, state why you think they are wrong, give them proof for your opinion, and hope that when you two stop talking, you've givin them something to think about.

The more you attack Belem, the less likely he will be to listen.

CG relax max this is Roleplaying KAG is just playing a nation in a game he's not REALLY trying to change belems opinion. He's just doing what he'd do if he was a nation's leader.

first off the world is made up of thousands of nations over 50 thousand I believe. so the trade of 100-200 nations means nothing.

second even if you are counting RPing nations which number is in the realm of 400-1000. only about 10-15 countries would be boycotting me which is still nothing to my trade.

third I am in alliances with nations of over 50 nations I believe my trade is safe.

I wonder how you could be in alliance with 'nations of over 50 nations' when your own region has not even half that. Plus, with your idiotic beliefs, I doubt that you could form any alliances, lest they be with more pathetic morons such as yourself..

OK KAG, time for you to sit down and shut up. As much as I disagree with Belem's belief's, you're being an ass. So stop being an ass, get back into IC, and move on, k?

OK C-G, time for you to sit down and stop whining about it and being bossy. As far as I can see, Belem has not gotten the point that homosexuality is wrong and I plan to continue posting on this until he does. If you're ready to give up, then I could care less, but don't try to control my efforts. Anti-homophobic nations should unite against Belem, rather than try to control one another.

KAG, you prove nothing except for your own foolishness. To step WAY outside the IC, this is the Friggin internet. You're not going to change someone's intrenched belief over the internet. All you can do is state what you believe, state why you think they are wrong, give them proof for your opinion, and hope that when you two stop talking, you've givin them something to think about.

The more you attack Belem, the less likely he will be to listen.

CG relax max this is Roleplaying KAG is just playing a nation in a game he's not REALLY trying to change belems opinion. He's just doing what he'd do if he was a nation's leader.

haha- who says I can't do both? But yes, that is basically my point.

I repeat, do not keep trying to control other nations. (btw, i visited your country; not surprised to find it a dictatorship... one more thing for you to control.) I am doing exactly what you said- continuing to state my opinion and hope that Belem changes his mind. This is the 'FRIGGIN' internet, which is why I threaten Belem, because we could possibly end up RPing it. So shut up and let me express my opinions!

You're missing the whole "Stoping so that they can think it over" part, which is suppose to come after two or three rounds of free expression.

Snide comments like yours aside, you have to realise that so far, this thread isn't sounding like an RP.

Belem, would you agree?

If you were wanting to make this into a RP, you might want to add a bit more... what, RP into the Mix?

Also, is your leader ready to lead your country into the jaws of certine defeat against Belem?

good to see someone cracking down on these sinners. in the Kingdom of Catholicstan, all homosexuals and other infidels(non-Catholics) are deported to Simsington. all we ask is that they are not killed/mutilated, since our Almighty God does not wish for people to act like barbarians.

good to see someone cracking down on these sinners. in the Kingdom of Catholicstan, all homosexuals and other infidels(non-Catholics) are deported to Simsington. all we ask is that they are not killed/mutilated, since our Almighty God does not wish for people to act like barbarians.

We feel that just deporting them would be going soft on them, but we make sure our Inquisitors due pennance for any sins they happen to commmit.

I repeat, do not keep trying to control other nations. (btw, i visited your country; not surprised to find it a dictatorship... one more thing for you to control.) I am doing exactly what you said- continuing to state my opinion and hope that Belem changes his mind. This is the 'FRIGGIN' internet, which is why I threaten Belem, because we could possibly end up RPing it. So shut up and let me express my opinions!

You're missing the whole "Stoping so that they can think it over" part, which is suppose to come after two or three rounds of free expression.

Snide comments like yours aside, you have to realise that so far, this thread isn't sounding like an RP.

Belem, would you agree?

If you were wanting to make this into a RP, you might want to add a bit more... what, RP into the Mix?

Also, is your leader ready to lead your country into the jaws of certine defeat against Belem?

they are definatelly taking it as more of a personal matter then an RP matter.

Damn, now that I finally get you off my back about 'being an ass', you have to whine about how this isn't really an RP. Yes, this is no RP, but who says we can't make it one? This is the friggin' internet, after all, and if we make an RP, it will follow all of your naggings about RP etiquette and be just perfect.

It is official The Holy Empire of Buka Makalu & The Holy Imperial Empire of Belem have signed a PACT of Arms. May all tremble before our combined might

PEACE THROUGH POWER!

I repeat, do not keep trying to control other nations. (btw, i visited your country; not surprised to find it a dictatorship... one more thing for you to control.) I am doing exactly what you said- continuing to state my opinion and hope that Belem changes his mind. This is the 'FRIGGIN' internet, which is why I threaten Belem, because we could possibly end up RPing it. So shut up and let me express my opinions!

You're missing the whole "Stoping so that they can think it over" part, which is suppose to come after two or three rounds of free expression.

Snide comments like yours aside, you have to realise that so far, this thread isn't sounding like an RP.

Belem, would you agree?

If you were wanting to make this into a RP, you might want to add a bit more... what, RP into the Mix?

Also, is your leader ready to lead your country into the jaws of certine defeat against Belem?

they are definatelly taking it as more of a personal matter then an RP matter.

Like i told buka, or whatever his name is, I am making it both.

good to see someone cracking down on these sinners. in the Kingdom of Catholicstan, all homosexuals and other infidels(non-Catholics) are deported to Simsington. all we ask is that they are not killed/mutilated, since our Almighty God does not wish for people to act like barbarians.

We'll take some too.

Damn, now that I finally get you off my back about 'being an ass', you have to whine about how this isn't really an RP. Yes, this is no RP, but who says we can't make it one? This is the friggin' internet, after all, and if we make an RP, it will follow all of your naggings about RP etiquette and be just perfect.

As you said. This was no RP. It read more like a Personal attack against the player who Controls Belem which is all well and good... but in a different forum. So, the reason I was "on your back about being an ass" as you so ineligently put it, was simply, because you WERE being an ass.

Your sarcasm is noted, and ignored as it is counter productive.

You want to make this an RP? Good.

IC:

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From: Canada-Germany
To: Belem

Subject: Your Stance on Homosexuality and the Rogue state of KAG

Text:
Though we abhour your belief regarding homosexuals and other such dealings with them, we are under the impression that the Rogue state of KAG has been rather bothersome to you. As such, we offer assistance in the removal of such pests.

Awaiting your responce.

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OOC: Most excellent, but I must wait until tomorrow to destroy CG. Tata for now.

Press Release from Eeptopia:


We think this is sick and a complete violation of human rights. We will not take action, but we ask that rather then being executed, they could be sent to countries with better civil rights. Eeptopia would take some, for example.

OOC: *prepares to be flamed* :roll:

Damn, now that I finally get you off my back about 'being an ass', you have to whine about how this isn't really an RP. Yes, this is no RP, but who says we can't make it one? This is the friggin' internet, after all, and if we make an RP, it will follow all of your naggings about RP etiquette and be just perfect.

As you said. This was no RP. It read more like a Personal attack against the player who Controls Belem which is all well and good... but in a different forum. So, the reason I was "on your back about being an ass" as you so ineligently put it, was simply, because you WERE being an ass.

Your sarcasm is noted, and ignored as it is counter productive.

You want to make this an RP? Good.

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From: Canada-Germany
To: Belem

Subject: Your Stance on Homosexuality and the Rogue state of KAG

Text:
Though we abhour your belief regarding homosexuals and other such dealings with them, we are under the impression that the Rogue state of KAG has been rather bothersome to you. As such, we offer assistance in the removal of such pests.

Awaiting your responce.

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We would definately appreciate your help with the Kag situation.

wonder if TAOBB is still around (or if anyone outside of it remembers it)...if not, i'll just have to boot it up again.

translation: i am gearing up (making calls, sending diplomatic teams, etc.) to kick your ass, RP-style (ooc: i will try to make this a good RP, not just to win and show everyone that i don't put up with this, ic or ooc). any nation that has similar ambitions, please TM me.

THe Treborian Tribune ~ UPI

The president, Lord Trebor, was flanked by Senator Arken and his Chief of Staff, Robby Jackson this afternoon on the east lawn of his family retreat in Sapphire Valley. Lord Trebor greeted the press and made the following statement: "The Republic of Senoj has received word today that Emporer Vito of Belem has launched a modern day Inquisition targeting the homosexual population of his nationstate. The ramifications of this action are not isolated to Belem but rather impact the entire region and our world itself. Therefore, The Republic of Senoj hereby breaks all diplomatic and economic ties with Belem. We ask that the global community and the United Nations bring sanctions against Belem immediatly."

taobb?

wonder if TAOBB is still around (or if anyone outside of it remembers it)...if not, i'll just have to boot it up again.

translation: i am gearing up (making calls, sending diplomatic teams, etc.) to kick your ass, RP-style (ooc: i will try to make this a good RP, not just to win and show everyone that i don't put up with this, ic or ooc). any nation that has similar ambitions, please TM me.

OOC: Who's ass are you talking about? lol

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From: Canada-Germany
To: Belem

Text: This, of course, would not be a "government sanctioned action" as our population would not like us allied with those that we perseive to be intollerent.

However, the foolishness of KAG forces us to make "strange bedpartners" if you will.

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To: Belem

Text: This, of course, would not be a "government sanctioned action" as our population would not like us allied with those that we perseive to be intollerent.

However, the foolishness of KAG forces us to make "strange bedpartners" if you will.

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Well your support will be appreciated whether it is government sanctioned or not.

TAOBB - the alliance of benevolent bullies. at its peak, it had 20+ medium-large nations and its goal was to take care of issues very much like this. others included taking out a nazi regime, and forcing two quarrelling new countries to end a bloody territorial/ethnic dispute. a few of them might still be up for this.

by "you" and "your ass", i mean Belem. the odds are against me if i do it alone, simply because he's (pretty sure it's a guy) got a decidedly larger pop, with the same economy. not to say i don't stand a chance, but i like to have overwhelming force before i do much of anything.

ooc: again, i'm in this more for the RP, though it does reflect my personal views. i don't care too much if i lose, i just want to have fun.

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To: Belem

Text: This, of course, would not be a "government sanctioned action" as our population would not like us allied with those that we perseive to be intollerent.

However, the foolishness of KAG forces us to make "strange bedpartners" if you will.

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Strange bedpartners? how ironic. arn't we supposed to be ANTI queer here?

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To: Belem

Text: This, of course, would not be a "government sanctioned action" as our population would not like us allied with those that we perseive to be intollerent.

However, the foolishness of KAG forces us to make "strange bedpartners" if you will.

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Strange bedpartners? how ironic. arn't we supposed to be ANTI queer here?

heee.... :D

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From: Canada-Germany
To: Belem

The we suggest a pre-emtive strike apon the Rogue Nation of KAG.

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TAOBB - the alliance of benevolent bullies. at its peak, it had 20+ medium-large nations and its goal was to take care of issues very much like this. others included taking out a nazi regime, and forcing two quarrelling new countries to end a bloody territorial/ethnic dispute. a few of them might still be up for this.

by "you" and "your ass", i mean Belem. the odds are against me if i do it alone, simply because he's (pretty sure it's a guy) got a decidedly larger pop, with the same economy. not to say i don't stand a chance, but i like to have overwhelming force before i do much of anything.

ooc: again, i'm in this more for the RP, though it does reflect my personal views. i don't care too much if i lose, i just want to have fun.

OOC: Ah, I see, lol, ok, well, eh, my government's worry right now is to Take out KAG, and as long as you hold off your attacks on Belem until AFTER KAG becomes rubble, it ain't no prob of mine, lol.

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To: Belem

The we suggest a pre-emtive strike apon the Rogue Nation of KAG.

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An excellent plan? Should we just give a show of force or should we have an all out invasion?

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From: Canada-Germany
To: Belem

Text: This, of course, would not be a "government sanctioned action" as our population would not like us allied with those that we perseive to be intollerent.

However, the foolishness of KAG forces us to make "strange bedpartners" if you will.

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Strange bedpartners? how ironic. arn't we supposed to be ANTI queer here?

heee.... :D

OOC: Hah hah, yeah, all the wording in that was totally purposeful, lol. And remember, I'm pro-homo rights, I'm just anti-Kag, lol.

belem...uh...nice try.

we might hold off an attack for some reason, but your military's being busy is not exactly a reason for us to do so. rather, the opposite.

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From: Canada-Germany
To: Belem

Text: This, of course, would not be a "government sanctioned action" as our population would not like us allied with those that we perseive to be intollerent.

However, the foolishness of KAG forces us to make "strange bedpartners" if you will.

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Strange bedpartners? how ironic. arn't we supposed to be ANTI queer here?

heee.... :D

OOC: Hah hah, yeah, all the wording in that was totally purposeful, lol. And remember, I'm pro-homo rights, I'm just anti-Kag, lol.

ok it's all clear now. You ARE still an enemy of ours.

belem...uh...nice try.

we might hold off an attack for some reason, but your military's being busy is not exactly a reason for us to do so. rather, the opposite.

I could use less then 5% of my military to take out Kag if I wanted to.

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To: Belem

An all out invasion proceeding a massive bombing/rolling thunder campaign. Following this, the total destruction of the nation and it's resources. You can keep the slaves if you want.

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From: Canada-Germany
To: Belem

Text: This, of course, would not be a "government sanctioned action" as our population would not like us allied with those that we perseive to be intollerent.

However, the foolishness of KAG forces us to make "strange bedpartners" if you will.

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Strange bedpartners? how ironic. arn't we supposed to be ANTI queer here?

heee.... :D

OOC: Hah hah, yeah, all the wording in that was totally purposeful, lol. And remember, I'm pro-homo rights, I'm just anti-Kag, lol.

ok it's all clear now. You ARE still an enemy of ours.

OOC: Oh yeah, very much so, however, the top levels of my government has seen fit to "make a deal with the devil" to take out KAG, so, whilst my offical government position is still Anti-Belem, a few of my forces, un named, unknown, will take part in the total destruction of KAG.

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To: Belem

An all out invasion proceeding a massive bombing/rolling thunder campaign. Following this, the total destruction of the nation and it's resources. You can keep the slaves if you want.

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that is acceptable. Our military is ready to move when ever you are.

OOC: It's probably more reasonable to take a day off to organise our forces first and start the invasion tommorow. Or, at least, in an hour.

what's the deal with KAG, anyway?

*discreetly polishes a gun barrel*

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OOC: It's probably more reasonable to take a day off to organise our forces first and start the invasion tommorow. Or, at least, in an hour.

OOC: ok. wait till he comes back tommorow.

OOC: perhaps we might even think about making a New thread of the Ass-whoop..... er... war? lol.

OOC: perhaps we might even think about making a New thread of the Ass-whoop..... er... war? lol.

lol sure.

Love has no boundaries and to think you can restrict it shows who you really are. :tantrum:

We fully support a Non-Homesexual stance as the army base of Camdean we allow no poofs in our armies, it is like letting a women go front line..

It just cant be done, its proven poofs have a hormone problem well this problem will not be put on the Battlefield

I have to say that in the twenty first century when war is all around us because of non tolerance of other people's right's I am saddened to have read this thread and so too issue a statement of strong condemnation against the Belem Government.

Whilst I respect each individuals rights to govern their country any way they see fit, I urge that this is done with every human's rights at the forefront. Homophobia stems from people's unwillingness to learn and be tolerant. I can not accept the Belem Government's statement.

I only hope that in time attitudes of theirs and other governments may change, and although acceptance may not be the order of the day in these homophobic countries, I urger tolerance.

President of The Republic of Grotesk.

Canada-Germany:
"OOC: Oh yeah, very much so, however, the top levels of my government has seen fit to "make a deal with the devil" to take out KAG, so, whilst my offical government position is still Anti-Belem, a few of my forces, un named, unknown, will take part in the total destruction of KAG."

so now you're trying to 'take me out', huh? Damn it I hate idiots who let small things ruin the big picture. Let me get this straight. You are supposedly anti-homophobic, yet you are agreeing to cooperate with Belem, the ultimate homophobic, to try to 'take out' my country even though I am truly anti-homophobic rather than just saying I am and then going totally against my beliefs. And what are your reasons for that? Here a few possible ones:
a) I was 'being an ass.'
b) My roleplaying etiquette was incorrect.
c) You really don't care about bigots like Belem and the effect they're having on the world, you just want to take out any country who refuses to bow down to your need to fulfill your ego and make power plays.
*As long as you registered my sarcasm, and even better, commented on it, I consider that my sarcasm was indeed a success.
Go ahead and pretend you're anti-homophobic and try to 'take me out'. I am organizing my region's military right now. I can't wait to see you fail.

the only way you can use your regions military if every single nation in your region goes on the forum and RPs there military. You cant just say they gave it to you.

The Empire of Yuki no Yume demands that the United Nations bring Belem and her cohorts in this most terrible atrosity to trial for crimes against humanity, or our most holy and rightous empress will bring swift punishment upon this most detestable country. Our empress also urges all other nations to take steps to prevent this horrid train of thought.

- Yamikami Sakura, Governor of Ethics and Press

Bring it to the UN, then! Minister of Foreign Booty Raekwon Allupinyabut was quoted saying, "I'm sure some of those gays would make excellent consultants. Remember that Rich guy on 'Survivor?' I bet he charged at LEAST double what the terms of reference of his contracts demanded."

He continued, "If countries need project managers for their executions and inquisitions, the Free Land of Yo Booty is chock-full of hyper-educated, eager beavers to manage the work load. We prefer concessions, but public-private partnerships also help our international rating. Moody's likes us."

Thanks for the telegram, Buka, I do agree that CG is a very strange person. I'd like to ally with you (against CG, perhaps), but your stance on homosexuals is that they are evil, so I cannot. My country refuses to ally with such countries, because I am truly anti-homophobic, and I will stick to my principals rather than letting them waver in the face of short-term payoffs. It's a shame that you feel this way about homosexuals.

The Empire of Yuki no Yume demands that the United Nations bring Belem and her cohorts in this most terrible atrosity to trial for crimes against humanity, or our most holy and rightous empress will bring swift punishment upon this most detestable country. Our empress also urges all other nations to take steps to prevent this horrid train of thought.

- Yamikami Sakura, Governor of Ethics and Press

Bring it to the UN, then! Minister of Foreign Booty Raekwon Allupinyabut was quoted saying, "I'm sure some of those gays would make excellent consultants. Remember that Rich guy on 'Survivor?' I bet he charged at LEAST double what the terms of reference of his contracts demanded."

He continued, "If countries need project managers for their executions and inquisitions, the Free Land of Yo Booty is chock-full of hyper-educated, eager beavers to manage the work load. We prefer concessions, but public-private partnerships also help our international rating. Moody's likes us."

the only way you can use your regions military if every single nation in your region goes on the forum and RPs there military. You cant just say they gave it to you.

I am a colonel in my region. I COMMAND the military. So actually, I could go in and order the nations to get on the forum and RP their military. If need be.

you'll probably get 3-4 nations at most.

you'll probably get 3-4 nations at most.

I refuse to continue this pointless banter on my nation's power any further. If I need to, I can order nations in my region to RP their military into this. Don't underestimate my region until we've lost to your military, which isn't going to happen. End of story.

The People's Republic of Malava demands an immediate stop to this horrible, monstrous holocaust. As the people's delegate, I denounce any participants as the vilest Nazis and call for their immediate destruction.

-double post-

Belem, you may send them to Nibal. We accept all peoples here, and do not discriminate. There is no need for senseless violence and blood shed. I urge you not to go through with this.

Belem, you may send them to Nibal. We accept all peoples here, and do not discriminate. There is no need for senseless violence and blood shed. I urge you not to go through with this.

no transporting.

Canada-Germany:
"OOC: Oh yeah, very much so, however, the top levels of my government has seen fit to "make a deal with the devil" to take out KAG, so, whilst my offical government position is still Anti-Belem, a few of my forces, un named, unknown, will take part in the total destruction of KAG."

so now you're trying to 'take me out', huh? Damn it I hate idiots who let small things ruin the big picture. Let me get this straight. You are supposedly anti-homophobic, yet you are agreeing to cooperate with Belem, the ultimate homophobic, to try to 'take out' my country even though I am truly homophobic rather than just saying I am and then going totally against my beliefs. And what are your reasons for that? Here a few possible ones:
a) I was 'being an ass.'
b) My roleplaying etiquette was incorrect.
c) You really don't care about bigots like Belem and the effect they're having on the world, you just want to take out any country who refuses to bow down to your need to fulfill your ego and make power plays.
*As long as you registered my sarcasm, and even better, commented on it, I consider that my sarcasm was indeed a success.
Go ahead and pretend you're anti-homophobic and try to 'take me out'. I am organizing my region's military right now. I can't wait to see you fail.

OOC: yes, I was alittle annoyed at you, but hey, I get over stuff like that. The reason for my actions? Wait and see.

But ya's know what? There's this think called "diplomacy" you were currently NOT engaded in it.

All YOU were doing was launching a personal attack apon the player that created Belem. That has it's place, but that place IS NOT here. You made no effort to RP. None. At all.

Instead of possibly using measure that might work, you decided to hammer the guy on the head with your ideals.

So, IC, why am I attacking you? Well, Have you noticed that it's not actually my government that's doing the talking? It's a branch off my Government, and you and this situation, my friend, is giving this branch a good opitunity to advance the goals of my country. Does this mean that my government doesn't know what's going on? No. My main government DOES know what's going on, but they support the action privately and in secret because it's part of a larger plan.

Not everything we do IC reflects our OOC beliefs. It's called RolePlaying, and my government, while "goody-goody" is also rather ruthless in it's actions to achive a certine Goal.

Belem has Isochronous' full support.

My country has strict immigration controls and wishes to make it clear that nationals of countries with anti-homosexual laws will not be welcome in our territory unless they are themselves dissidents.

OOC: And remember my conversation with Belem was a S-IC, so, you don't know, lol.

IC:

Memo from the desk of the Prime Minister:

To: KAG

Text:

Our politics seem to be similar, though our tactics are not.

Therefor, my government is ready to offer whatever help it can in the fight against Belem.

~Ipkiss

End

TAOBB - the alliance of benevolent bullies. at its peak, it had 20+ medium-large nations and its goal was to take care of issues very much like this. others included taking out a nazi regime, and forcing two quarrelling new countries to end a bloody territorial/ethnic dispute. a few of them might still be up for this.

by "you" and "your ass", i mean Belem. the odds are against me if i do it alone, simply because he's (pretty sure it's a guy) got a decidedly larger pop, with the same economy. not to say i don't stand a chance, but i like to have overwhelming force before i do much of anything.

ooc: again, i'm in this more for the RP, though it does reflect my personal views. i don't care too much if i lose, i just want to have fun.

OOC: were there two TAOBBs Brez? :? The one I recall, there were four of us who officiallly joined and the only thing that we accomplished was bullying the Sundenten conflict to a forgotten cold war.

OOC: I wouldn' t worry about economy, as a socialist nation, I deliberately implode my economy, and then base my judgements on hat my government funding could support (I always come in second after C-G for highest defense spending, pluas I focus on maintaing my key civilian infrastructure.

OOC: Speaking of RP, yes I know that you told me to stay out of it for the time being, but I needed some way to tag it without ruining the RP too badlywith a "*tags thread*" I will make one little diplomatic move so that I don't just waste bandwidth here.

IC: The Multinational Green Empire of Qaaolchoura officially condemns Behelm's attrocities against humanity.

LRR delivers this ultimatum to Belem:

Deport all your homosexuals to LRR or other TAOBB nations within a week. No killing them before then. If you do, we'll-------" The transmission cuts out.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2144943#2144943

qaaol - no, there was only one. yeah, we didn't get much done. but we did have the entire unified conglomerate behind us. you probably didn't notice, because we never actually had to use their help. they just looked good on the ultimatum, and i doubt they wouldn't've helped us if we actually needed it.

join when you like - all of you.

ic summary: i'll offer support to KAG if they need it. i have declared war on belem. i have not declared war on anybody else. i've asked a few nations for help, and decided that my disadvantage is too small to not be outweighed by the possibility of other countries' assistance.

come to think of it...maybe i should've just gone with the ultimatum approach. if either qaaol or LRR thinks i should've done that, then i'll withdraw the declaration and replace it with an ultimatum. i just don't think one would work in this case - belem seems pretty bent on his policy.

An ultimatum would be better to start out with. It will be justification later on, should it come to war.

An ultimatum would be better to start out with. It will be justification later on, should it come to war.

think i should withdraw it, then? again - i highly doubt that he'll comply.

LRR delivers this ultimatum to Belem:

Deport all your homosexuals to LRR or other TAOBB nations within a week. No killing them before then. If you do, we'll-------" The transmission cuts out.

whos to say we still have homosexuals left?

LRR delivers this ultimatum to Belem:

Deport all your homosexuals to LRR or other TAOBB nations within a week. No killing them before then. If you do, we'll-------" The transmission cuts out.

whos to say we still have homosexuals left?
Assuming that (as far as you are aware, remember there were still a small number of Jews left in Serbia even after Hitler was positive that he purged it) you have executed all of your homosexuals, that would be a pretext for blockade at the very least, if not invasion.

But of course, it's up to Bereza.

OOC: well we rely on basically the generally public ratting people out and then the Inquisition does a follow up investigation. In actuality the Inquisition and the government really doesn't care one way or the other they just want the people to be ever loyal to Belem and by calling withhunts they achieve that.

"The Commonwealth of Derminia shall not be enslaved by the religious beliefs of another nation. Why should our people be repressed by another nations religion? We live in a nation of democracy!"

Minister Vitay
Ministry of Cultural Affairs

"The Commonwealth of Derminia shall not be enslaved by the religious beliefs of another nation. Why should our people be repressed by another nations religion? We live in a nation of democracy!"

Minister Vitay
Ministry of Cultural Affairs

Belem is not trying to invade you nor has expressed interest in invading Derminia.

well, i would like this to be a TAOBB attack. i just got impatient. does the rest of TAOBB want to join in? and if so, then do you really want an ultimatum (i'll do it if you do want it)?

Let us first deliver an ultimatum. It is quite possible that he has barely begun.

Somehow I get the feeling that a war over homosexuality could grow quite large.

Let us first deliver an ultimatum. It is quite possible that he has barely begun.

Somehow I get the feeling that a war over homosexuality could grow quite large.

ok, ultimatum it is. check the thread in a few mins. i assume your and LRR's sigs are ok?

and yeah, if other nations find out about this, and keep it going, this could easily become a world war.

OOC: Hah hah, yeah, all the wording in that was totally purposeful, lol. And remember, I'm pro-homo rights, I'm just anti-Kag, lol.
That's queer loyalty for you.

ultimatum delivered.

again - any nation that wishes to formally assist us - may we include you, at least temporarily, in TAOBB?

check other thread.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
OFFICE OF THE EARL OF ROGERS PARK
PRIME MINISTER OF THE CROWN GOVERNMENT
CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHY OF FARINASPARLEMENT

The Office of the Crown met at Loyola Avenue (the official residence of the monarch) to discuss recent pacts and official statements made against sexual-minority groups including gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender peoples.

HRH Gerald, the Crown of Farinasparlement, made it clear to his ministers that the official stance of the Crown would be to defend the human rights and dignities of sexual-minorities, globally.

HRH Gerald appointed a special commission to be led by the Earl of Andersonville to debate possible diplomatic and military actions against nations found violating the human rights and dignities of sexual-minorities.

The Earl of Rogers Park, Prime Minister of the Crown Government, has called a special joint session of Parliament to debate the issues at hand.

The Isochron position

Isochronous discourages homosexuality. However, we do not slaughter people for practising it. Rather, we encourage them to rehabilitate themselves and integrate back into society. Any homosexual relationships have to be private, and it is illegal to flaunt your homosexuality in public. We also offer homosexuals every opportunity to emigrate to a new nation.

The Holy Empire of Isochronous will fight against any coalition of shitholes which want to shove homosexuality down the throats of others.

OOC: Hah hah, yeah, all the wording in that was totally purposeful, lol. And remember, I'm pro-homo rights, I'm just anti-Kag, lol.
That's queer loyalty for you.

OOC: You're right, it is very weird loyalty, :P :lol:

Although I can't help out actively (i'm a future nation now)

I can give Bereza 500 back-teched marines of LRR to control, as well as 100 billion USD for military expenses.

(Note: non-Bereza people don't know that the marines are LRR marines, or that we're giving them 100 billion USD)

REACTION ON CRACKING DOWN HOMOSEXUALS: IMMEDIATE RELEASE

GAYDAR NEWS AGENCY
November 17, 2003

The Republic of Queerdar today highly criticize the nation of Belem for its act to crackdown on gays, lesbians, bi-sexual, and transgendered community.

"We are totally in shock on Belem Government's ignorant and bigotry decision on cracking down homosexuals. This action is totally unacceptable and we ask all nations to stand on our side, and to demolish this bigotry government. Eventually, the bigotry will comes to an end and the government will taste the failure from its policy, including those believe in conversion therapy."

"All human rights shall be granted equally to every citizen, no matter they are gay or straight, black or white. Any government attempting to take the rights away from the homosexuals, believe homosexuals are criminals, and using scapegoats to cover up their own problems will be punished by disasterous unforeseen future."

Release Date: 1714PST (GMT - 8) Nov 17, 2003

Although I can't help out actively (i'm a future nation now)

I can give Bereza 500 back-teched marines of LRR to control, as well as 100 billion USD for military expenses.

(Note: non-Bereza people don't know that the marines are LRR marines, or that we're giving them 100 billion USD)
Meh, I'm semi-future too. I just leave out the future tc off of my space colonies.

>>MEMO
19 nov 03


frm: the government of bonheurdamour
to: the holy empire of belem


m. belem;

i understand that i am a new, small, idealistic nation with a populace less than 1/8 of belem's population. i understand that you are a massive, powerful, and dare i say corrupt country.

my power is limited. i don't have the money nor the resources to stop you from alienating many UN members as well as more than half the nations of jennifer government.

what i do have is a strong code of ethics that tells me, as well as my subjects, that killing and persecuting a man or woman because of who they choose to love is absolutely ridiculous. many people have said so, and i have them to back me up. there are, believe it or not, large countries that are socially conscious and that will do something about your misplaced 'threat' to society.

i urge members of the UN who have the privileges to propose a resolution to do so relating to the inhumane treatment of homosexuals merely for who they love. it is not against nature. homosexuals do not have a 'choice.'

i hope you have heeded my warning - there will almost indefinitely be a war, simple because of your absurd statement. i have notified many media outlets, including ABC and PBS, who will air programs entitled 'neo-hitler: ignorant persecution in the 21st century' and 'belem; a nation of social disgrace' in the following week.

X m. bonheur
ruler of bonheur damour

A crime against nature? Just how unatural is it? Homosexuality occurs in nature with or without human intervention. I suggest you come up with a better excuse for why you are killing people.

DO you not see that you are killing innocent people just because of their sexual prefrence...its not fair to kill them. ITS ALL ABOUT THEIR RIGHT AS A HUMAN BEING...human rights is what you are holding from them.I think what you are doing is inhumane. you should stop killing them and just let them be and do what they want.

uh...that's what this war, that's blossoming into a world war, is all about.

I am against this killing. But rights? Fair? I hate jerks like that, but I hate liberals more. No one, I mean no one, should speak of rights and fairness, for neither one truely exists. I hate jerks, who'd do this such thing, but liberals, peace-lovers, human-rights-activist, should be killed. Gays have commited no crime, yet anyone like I stated, has violated their own right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

being gay is not a crime against nature. bonobos(a relative of chimps) have some homosexual members. they also have gay sex. male dolphins often form 2-male families and adopt orphans. the families function just like "normal" families.