NationStates Jolt Archive

Belem News Network Report

"Today our most Glorious Emperor Vito the first has called for an Imperial crackdown on the most insidieous and vile corrupters of Belem. In his address he stated homosexuals are the greatest taint to Belem society and power and must be eradicated. Citing numerous evidence that there is a large underground operating under the nose of our current laws and that major changes must be made to crush the problem. After his speech the crowd joyfully chanted 'cure or death!' The Inquisition is quickly enacting laws to help them persue the heathens."

The Knootian government issues a statement of strong condemnation of the Belem government. We urge the Belem government to respect human rights blah blah blah etc etc...

~Knootian ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The Knootian government issues a statement of strong condemnation of the Belem government. We urge the Belem government to respect human rights blah blah blah etc etc...

~Knootian ministry of Foreign Affairs.

they are commiting a crime against nature.

We support you Belem! We have started to exterminate homosexuals and other savages.

Belem News Network Report

"Today our most Glorious Emperor Vito the first has called for an Imperial crackdown on the most insidieous and vile corrupters of Belem. In his address he stated homosexuals are the greatest taint to Belem society and power and must be eradicated. Citing numerous evidence that there is a large underground operating under the nose of our current laws and that major changes must be made to crush the problem. After his speech the crowd joyfully chanted 'cure or death!' The Inquisition is quickly enacting laws to help them persue the heathens."


Any gays in my nation are shot and burned, I urge you to do the same.

"We are sure emperor Vito will enjoy his new prisoners in every possible way..."

~ Ministry for international mockery, DA

Want to give us a wholesale deal?

Want to give us a wholesale deal?

not for sale.

"We are sure emperor Vito will enjoy his new prisoners in every possible way..."

~ Ministry for international mockery, DA


anyone found out will be given two choices 1. to be sent to a mental institution until they are deemed cured or considered incurable and executed or 2. shot outright.

Want to give us a wholesale deal?

not for sale.

We'll pay for shipping.

Want to give us a wholesale deal?

not for sale.

We'll pay for shipping.

still no. We do not go soft on our criminals

OOC: Would you happen to live in the Belem area of Brazil Belem...?

IC:

FOX Network prepares story... it will either be entitled "Belem knocks down Human Rights" or "Belem, the Patriarch of morality!"

:arrow: Press Release from the Vladmiristarian Palace of Rule

Even though my country is renowned for civil rights being classed as treason, you forget what is behind love for gays, lesbians and equally for straight people. Emotion. Nothing more, nothing less. I see that homosexuals being singled out and shot for their love for someone as a load of nonsense. If you are going to single out homosexuals for loving someone then you should do the same for straight people too. (Youre going to have a very small populace methinks)

Dr. Vlad
Chairman of the Government of Vladmiristak

OOC: Would you happen to live in the Belem area of Brazil Belem...?

IC:

FOX Network prepares story... it will either be entitled "Belem knocks down Human Rights" or "Belem, the Patriarch of morality!"

OOC: nope. just came out with Belem from putting letters together.

IC: definately the second one.

"For some reason I'd expect better from such a nation, obviously size and history is no safe guard against outright stupidity."

Prime Minister Cameron Williams during press conference

The USSC is a firm supporter of the Anti-Homosexual policy, but Just because you illegalize it does not mean they wont do it anyway.

The USSC does believe that it is a very unethical lifestyle, and that it should be banned all over the world, because it is in direct violation with the teachings of the bible.( Do not, I REAPEAT DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A RELIGIOUS THREAD)

We need police forces that can ensure that people will not do this in the privacy of their own homes either.

in the USSC anyone suspected of being a Homosexual, in any way, Is Dragged out of their house at night and out in a solitary prison cell for 6 years.

For anyone who believes that this is an infringement of their civil rights, OR is offended by this post.................

DEAL WITH IT

"We are sure emperor Vito will enjoy his new prisoners in every possible way..."

~ Ministry for international mockery, DA


anyone found out will be given two choices 1. to be sent to a mental institution until they are deemed cured or considered incurable and executed or 2. shot outright.

"Oh, come on, you know you want them... imagine their nice, little butts... tight, hard... you know it, you simply CANNOT resist."

~ Ministry for quote pyramids, DA

:arrow: Press Release from the Vladmiristarian Palace of Rule

Even though my country is renowned for civil rights being classed as treason, you forget what is behind love for gays, lesbians and equally for straight people. Emotion. Nothing more, nothing less. I see that homosexuals being singled out and shot for their love for someone as a load of nonsense. If you are going to single out homosexuals for loving someone then you should do the same for straight people too. (Youre going to have a very small populace methinks)

Dr. Vlad
Chairman of the Government of Vladmiristak

its a crime against nature what they are doing.

Belem News Network Report

"Today our most Glorious Emperor Vito the first has called for an Imperial crackdown on the most insidieous and vile corrupters of Belem. In his address he stated homosexuals are the greatest taint to Belem society and power and must be eradicated.
Gays are now the greatest threat to Belem? Whew, good things elves lost that spot!

Anthony Kim Chai
Syskeyian Ambassador to Menelmacar
Vinyatirion, Menelmacar

Citing numerous evidence that there is a large underground operating under the nose of our current laws and that major changes must be made to crush the problem. After his speech the crowd joyfully chanted 'cure or death!' The Inquisition is quickly enacting laws to help them persue the heathens."

Sorry, but I think your laws violate Catholic doctrine:

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

The Empire of Yuki no Yume demands that the United Nations bring Belem and her cohorts in this most terrible atrosity to trial for crimes against humanity, or our most holy and rightous empress will bring swift punishment upon this most detestable country. Our empress also urges all other nations to take steps to prevent this horrid train of thought.

- Yamikami Sakura, Governor of Ethics and Press

"We are sure emperor Vito will enjoy his new prisoners in every possible way..."

~ Ministry for international mockery, DA


anyone found out will be given two choices 1. to be sent to a mental institution until they are deemed cured or considered incurable and executed or 2. shot outright.

"Oh, come on, you know you want them... imagine their nice, little butts... tight, hard... you know it, you simply CANNOT resist."

~ Ministry for quote pyramids, DA

*ROFL*

"We are sure emperor Vito will enjoy his new prisoners in every possible way..."

~ Ministry for international mockery, DA


anyone found out will be given two choices 1. to be sent to a mental institution until they are deemed cured or considered incurable and executed or 2. shot outright.

"Oh, come on, you know you want them... imagine their nice, little butts... tight, hard... you know it, you simply CANNOT resist."

~ Ministry for quote pyramids, DA

you sir have a sick sick mind.

The Empire of Yuki no Yume demands that the United Nations bring Belem and her cohorts in this most terrible atrosity to trial for crimes against humanity, or our most holy and rightous empress will bring swift punishment upon this most detestable country. Our empress also urges all other nations to take steps to prevent this horrid train of thought.

- Yamikami Sakura, Governor of Ethics and Press

:arrow: here here, i would second such a motion

Belem News Network Report

"Today our most Glorious Emperor Vito the first has called for an Imperial crackdown on the most insidieous and vile corrupters of Belem. In his address he stated homosexuals are the greatest taint to Belem society and power and must be eradicated.
Gays are now the greatest threat to Belem? Whew, good things elves lost that spot!

Anthony Kim Chai
Syskeyian Ambassador to Menelmacar
Vinyatirion, Menelmacar

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Elves are still a threat But there are none to destroy Belem from within.

OOC:It alternates based on Emperor every Emperor ussually has a crackdown at the beginning of his term to direct the citizens attention to.

Well, I really don't see whats wrong with elves, In fact I like Them a great deal.

All Elves that Are being Oppressed, can come over and Hang out in The USSC

The Empire of Yuki no Yume demands that the United Nations bring Belem and her cohorts in this most terrible atrosity to trial for crimes against humanity, or our most holy and rightous empress will bring swift punishment upon this most detestable country. Our empress also urges all other nations to take steps to prevent this horrid train of thought.

- Yamikami Sakura, Governor of Ethics and Press

:arrow: here here, i would second such a motion

Most of The Great Plain, including me and Belem, piss on the UN and all of it's liberal policies.

Signed,

-President Alex Ortiz
Commonwealth of The Gulf States

The USSC does believe that it is a very unethical lifestyle, and that it should be banned all over the world, because it is in direct violation with the teachings of the bible.( Do not, I REAPEAT DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A RELIGIOUS THREAD)

Too late! You just turned it into one!

Tanah Burung condemns this latest violation of basic human rights. The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation.
Violeta Bi Bere
People's representative for foreign affairs & human rights

Hey Belem, Did you need to relocate some elves?

The USSC does believe that it is a very unethical lifestyle, and that it should be banned all over the world, because it is in direct violation with the teachings of the bible.( Do not, I REAPEAT DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A RELIGIOUS THREAD)

Too late! You just turned it into one!

Tanah Burung condemns this latest violation of basic human rights. The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation.
Violeta Bi Bere
People's representative for foreign affairs & human rights

OOC: That isn't really what he meant. I meant some debate over Christianity, God's existance, or anything belonging in General instead of here.

IC: We do have equality laws and allow human rights for gays and non-Christians. However, they know they're a minority against the massive born again Christian population. So they tend not to live in our borders, favoring more liberal atmospheres.

Hey Belem, Did you need to relocate some elves?


dont have any elves

:arrow: Press Release from the Vladmiristarian Palace of Rule

Even though my country is renowned for civil rights being classed as treason, you forget what is behind love for gays, lesbians and equally for straight people. Emotion. Nothing more, nothing less. I see that homosexuals being singled out and shot for their love for someone as a load of nonsense. If you are going to single out homosexuals for loving someone then you should do the same for straight people too. (Youre going to have a very small populace methinks)

Dr. Vlad
Chairman of the Government of Vladmiristak

He would however have a larger population than you queer lovers being as how FAG'S CAN'T BREED!!! Homosexuality is natures way of culling the undesireables.
-Scorch-

OOC:

*starts getting ready to toast marsh mallows on the flames*

Hey Belem, Did you need to relocate some elves?


dont have any elves



Dang, Oh well I guess That I overheard somebody talking about you and Elves in the Same sentence.


OOC:Thank you gulf States

The esteemed Foreign Minister of Henleaze Avenue rolls on the floor laughing at Belem and friends :lol: and would like to declare that she herself is a black lesbian disabled heretic who loves elves....what are they going to do about it?

Belem News Network Report

"Today our most Glorious Emperor Vito the first has called for an Imperial crackdown on the most insidieous and vile corrupters of Belem. In his address he stated homosexuals are the greatest taint to Belem society and power and must be eradicated. Citing numerous evidence that there is a large underground operating under the nose of our current laws and that major changes must be made to crush the problem. After his speech the crowd joyfully chanted 'cure or death!' The Inquisition is quickly enacting laws to help them persue the heathens."
>>>Transmission to: Belem State Diplomatic Consul <<<
||From: Kaenian Central Command, WorldDisc||
||Re: Homosexual Persecution. ||

I wonder, at this point what I am to say.


My intelligence services forward me a great many things. A few are directly related to Kaenei as a whole. Threats to security, urgent escelations of war. Some I request not for the role to whch I serve, as First of the Union, but simply in regards to my other more human nature- curiousity. Not all are worthy of close scrutiny or closer inspection. Few warrant immediate action, much like this.

Every morning, after the most important issues are dealt with, and I can be sure Kaenei faces nothing more than a shimmer of complaints regarding little more frivilous moanings, I delve into my own personnel cache.

It is here, acts like your own are forwarded. It is rareer still to find myself commenting on such. However what is a simple man if he is nothing more than erratic and random. Is that not the image we were made in?


So, now I read that you are to clamp down on the "deviation" you regard as damaging to the fabric of your society. I see others have attacked the reasons behind this move. Further still some do it as a simple reaction to their own ideology. Every force causes an equal and opposite reaction. You have applied A, and it is simply uo to B to react in its opposite capacity.

Viewed as simply as that, there is little to discuss. But I do find myself questioning why. The english language still amazes me. In a simple three lettered word, we can capture the pennant of human intitution and questioning.

Why?

And that is what I further to you. Simply, I do not understand why you seek to persecute. I do not concern myself with the moral rights and wrongs and fundamental morals of homosexuality. It is not the time nor place to debate such. As I said earlier, A has acted, and it is inappropriate to question why, only for B to react.

So now, my task as others before me, is to respond. But I cannot until I gather the reasons behind such actions. This group, these subspecies if you will who by choice or inate feeling are socially seperate from your established and favoured rulings. But surely, what can possibly be changed by your crackdown. If homosexuals continue to exist within Belem, you have failed. If you cannot simply prevent them from ever coming into existance then you have failed in your crackdown before it has even begun.

Today, in the age of faster-than-light, in times of tremendous war and utter strife social engineering has been regarded as an ultimate grail towards total utopia. Indeed, it could be said any prospective society or nation utltimatley may become heaven with the use of social engineering. The task is not to adapt and improve services, homes, infastructure and wealth of your nation but to engineer your populance into accepting the current status. In that utopia is present.

But your populance cannot and will not act in the unified, ordered mind of goverment. They are a chaotic collecitve of contrasting voices and views. They act only with the vaguest of unity, which spills into total chaos given any disagreement. However, they are still a collective. What you aim to do is to remove a part of the collective that does not conform to your rules or vision.

In doing this, you harm your goal of unity with the people. In forcibly engineering their thoughts and forcibly reforming their thoughts, you plant resistance against your efforts. The very picture and function of goverment is not to choose the path of the people. Even in dictatorships and non socialistic democracies, the people will shape goverment. Simple numbers dictate that their wishes will gravitate even the most iron gripped ruler. By attempting to amputate homosexuality [regardless of the separate moral argument] you will have to cull a significant number if you continue with your claims of "Cure or Death". Destroying so much individuality will merely damage your people further.

The simple acts and feelings of Homosexuality should not matter. They do not affect wether Belem's transport networks run on time, and they do not affect the stock in your food retailers. Being homosexual does not encourage less taxation, or an expectedly lower work ethic. Govermentally, this has no bearing at all.

Your continued "obsession" in attempting to cull the behaviour will inevitably encourage it to the point where control is lost, and your credibility is simply void.


I leave you with my opening words-


However what is a simple man if he is nothing more than erratic and random. Is that not the image we were made in?




Citizen Caelistis,First Citizen.

Kommandant, DEHC Military

Most Serene Republic Of Kaenei.

>>>Transmission Terminated<<<

The esteemed Foreign Minister of Henleaze Avenue rolls on the floor laughing at Belem and friends :lol: and would like to declare that she herself is a black lesbian disabled heretic who loves elves....what are they going to do about it?


We're going to ignore you thats what


Oh crap, Oxymoron


OOC: Nope sorry, I just did that for the post count

The esteemed Foreign Minister of Henleaze Avenue rolls on the floor laughing at Belem and friends :lol: and would like to declare that she herself is a black lesbian disabled heretic who loves elves....what are they going to do about it?


We're going to ignore you thats what


Oh crap, Oxymoron


OOC: Nope sorry, I just did that for the post count

He would however have a larger population than you queer lovers being as how FAG'S CAN'T BREED!!! Homosexuality is natures way of culling the undesireables.
-Scorch-

The esteemed Foreign Minister of Henleaze Avenue begs to point out that Mein Volk is wrong. Fascism is nature's way of culling undesirables...they eventually become so inbred, due to pickiness over who they breed with, that they die out or play banjo in movies such as 'Deliverance'. We would also like to say that we have never been aware of cigarettes breeding, but as soon as they do we will be first in the queue to buy some.

Belem News Network Report

"Today our most Glorious Emperor Vito the first has called for an Imperial crackdown on the most insidieous and vile corrupters of Belem. In his address he stated homosexuals are the greatest taint to Belem society and power and must be eradicated. Citing numerous evidence that there is a large underground operating under the nose of our current laws and that major changes must be made to crush the problem. After his speech the crowd joyfully chanted 'cure or death!' The Inquisition is quickly enacting laws to help them persue the heathens."

i think this is the most corrupt thing i've ever heard thats like killing Jews i'm really against this.

That was deep, Kaenei(Or should I say, Morpheus), real deep.

to Kaenei- The people of Belem demand that unjust and immoral practices be stopped and the Imperial Empire responds to these demands. Be it communists, elves, heathens, or homosexuals.

you fucking BASTARDS! there's nothing wrong with gay people, love is love is love is love. your beliefs are downright WRONG and normally there are 2 sides to every issue but certainly not this one! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GAYS, ONLY WITH IDIOTS WHO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE DIFFERENT FROM THE REST DESERVES TO BE SHOT. I am OUTRAGED that anyone would even suggest this! IDIOTS, you stupid idiots.

to Kaenei- The people of Belem demand that unjust and immoral practices be stopped and the Imperial Empire responds to these demands. Be it communists, elves, heathens, or homosexuals.

So your country exsists in a state of Mob rule?

-Minister of Foreign Relations

Announcement from the People's New Revolutionary Communist Party:

Even more evidence that religion will only hinder the progression of the New Communist System both in Perfect China and the world over. In response to this new action taken by Belem, what little communication and relations that our nations had are now cut off until a new (or at least saner) government rises in Belem. We can only hope that the glorious Revolution of New Communism will sweep Belem and bring her sanity.


http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:e6ffnG-cETQC:cookministries.ibelieve.com/uploads/47/3610.jpg
President Nah Tan Mao
The United People’s State of Perfect China

So your country exsists in a state of Mob rule?

-Minister of Foreign Relations

No. The government sets the norms of society through social engineering. If the government said there was a crackdown tommorow on communists the people would jump for joy also. The people love the government and will support whatever it does.

Announcement from the People's New Revolutionary Communist Party:

Even more evidence that religion will only hinder the progression of the New Communist System both in Perfect China and the world over. In response to this new action taken by Belem, what little communication and relations that our nations had are now cut off until a new (or at least saner) government rises in Belem. We can only hope that the glorious Revolution of New Communism will sweep Belem and bring her sanity.


http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:e6ffnG-cETQC:cookministries.ibelieve.com/uploads/47/3610.jpg
President Nah Tan Mao
The United People’s State of Perfect China

COmmunists are also one of Belems most hated groups.

you f--- BASTARDS! there's nothing wrong with gay people, love is love is love is love. your beliefs are downright WRONG and normally there are 2 sides to every issue but certainly not this one! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GAYS, ONLY WITH IDIOTS WHO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE DIFFERENT FROM THE REST DESERVES TO BE SHOT. I am OUTRAGED that anyone would even suggest this! IDIOTS, you stupid idiots.


*pulls Glock*

Click, Click BANG

you f--- BASTARDS! there's nothing wrong with gay people, love is love is love is love. your beliefs are downright WRONG and normally there are 2 sides to every issue but certainly not this one! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GAYS, ONLY WITH IDIOTS WHO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE DIFFERENT FROM THE REST DESERVES TO BE SHOT. I am OUTRAGED that anyone would even suggest this! IDIOTS, you stupid idiots.


*pulls Glock*

Click, Click BANG

OOC: you're not old enough to handle a Glock, here's a Water Pistol. :lol:

stay on topic.

So your country exsists in a state of Mob rule?

-Minister of Foreign Relations

No. The government sets the norms of society through social engineering. If the government said there was a crackdown tommorow on communists the people would jump for joy also. The people love the government and will support whatever it does.

I see. This fact was not known to the Government of C-G. Thank you for the information.

Oh, by the way, as per our national stance of acceptance et al, we strongly condem, etc.. just for the record.

-Minister of Foreign Relations.

One of the many revelers at one of many of Keoki's nightclubs, a gay man in robes made out of Target Bags (he is one of the "Living" Warhols) said in-between shots of whiskey, "The people in Belem need to loosen up and learn how to paartay!"

We back Belem wholeheartedly.

Any nation who would be an enemy of Belem is an enemy of ours.

to Kaenei- The people of Belem demand that unjust and immoral practices be stopped and the Imperial Empire responds to these demands. Be it communists, elves, heathens, or homosexuals.>>>Transmission to: Belem State Diplomatic Consul <<<
||From: Kaenian Central Command, WorldDisc||
||Re: Homosexual Persecution. ||


Interesting. In your short reply you have said many more things than you could wish to have passed on. In your reply you tell me you act on the wish of your people, in their name do you commence this purge, which one could label a crusade of sorts. You have stated, for the world assembled before you that the young, not long entered into this violent, angry Earth, the old- not long for this mortal coil, shuffling the last few painful steps towards their eternal rest and ten lifetimes of statistics inbetween are equally represented by your commands and thoughts.

But I find myself disagreeing, for in the first statement of your intent, you specifically said thus-

Today our most Glorious Emperor Vito the first has called for an Imperial crackdown on the most insidieous and vile corrupters of Belem. In his address he stated homosexuals are the greatest taint to Belem society and power and must be eradicated. Citing numerous evidence that there is a large underground operating under the nose of our current laws and that major changes must be made to crush the problem.

You have spoken not as the mouthpiece of a people united, but the supreme authority of a Govermental organisation. You speak not as the supposed Emperor himself, but refer to 'he'. You cannot truly represent the hopes and aspirations of a people as a goverment, indeed no such organisation or nation would even foolishly claim such. but you indeed do not seem to understand your people at all.

You also speak of a great taint. But tell me, what else have you ruined? I understand my words are harsh, but now you speak of a great unkindness towards fellow men you do not approve of. You lose the compassion that we are blessed with from inception. You show not understanding, or at the least tolerance but hostility. You have earmarked homosexuality as a means of evil. But tell me of the other atrocious acts that have been committed both by individuals within your society and within the darkened history of Belem itself. Do these people truly deserve to be treated with less respect than an animal?

What concerns me most, is your final statement. You speak of great changes in you law. I find this disturbing. It leads me to believe that your people indeed have no such ill will towards homosexuals. You stated it was the will of your society that wished a total purge of homosexuals, yet you now say great changes must be made. What is the catalyst? Why have these emotions only now sparked Govermental action and response? These sound like not the chants, screams and protests of students, the mellowed gentle mumblings of the old or the frustration of a housewife. No, these sound alltogether far more sinister.

When we die, we all become identical. We will not rise, our hearts cannot beat a rhythm that stirs us to life. Our eyes will never again glower in anger, or widen in suprise. When we have taken our last breath, our sexual preferences are consigned not even to history, whch makes no time for such insignificancies. You persue a hunt that will be remembered only for its foolishness. Allowed to live out their lives normally, homosexuals will be productive members of your society. Yet you would end a human life, nay thousands of human lives in what is little more than socialistic genocide.

We all inhabit the same Earth, let us not see fresh souls lost to it through this madness.


[i]Citizen Caelistis,First Citizen.

Kommandant, DEHC Military

Most Serene Republic Of Kaenei.

>>>Transmission Terminated<<<

you f--- BASTARDS! there's nothing wrong with gay people, love is love is love is love. your beliefs are downright WRONG and normally there are 2 sides to every issue but certainly not this one! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GAYS, ONLY WITH IDIOTS WHO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE DIFFERENT FROM THE REST DESERVES TO BE SHOT. I am OUTRAGED that anyone would even suggest this! IDIOTS, you stupid idiots.


*pulls Glock*

Click, Click BANG

OOC: you're not old enough to handle a Glock, here's a Water Pistol. :lol:


*Gasps that someone would ever give him a present then sits down and plays with his new toy for 18 hours*


I think I actually might change my policy on homosexuality, after reading these posts.


And communism is not so bad, if it's done right

One of the many "Club Kids" (people who dress up like little kids), a 23rd woman in pigtails and a school girl uniform and a Hello Kitty backpack that contained her drug supply said, "We aint trying to hate on anyone but Pilmour and Belem are creeepy nations, like Iraq and North Korea, just creepy, want some E?"

Dear Anti-Homosexual Nations,

The government has nothing to do with what I am about to tell you, but the majority conservative people of Nanakaland sometimes stone gays to death. The government actually has to protect all openly gay people. In situations with revolts (like now in Nanakaland), gays have to flee the city because people try to stone them to death. I am against gays, but I don't want them dead. The people, however, voice a far different oppinion.

Best Regards,
President Michael,
President of Nanakaland

P.S. Watch out. The cultists, trying to take over my nation, twist my every words. They will try to gain support of other nations, but they really want to take over the world with their brainwashing techniques. Don't fall for the cult's traps or you, too will have a problem on your hands. The cultists have no mercy.

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Dear Anti-Gay Nations,

We support you all of the way. Give us support taking over Nanakaland and extermintating the gays in the nation. Remember you can always trust an evil cult. Its not like we are purposely taking the opposite view of the President. It's not like we're trying to take over the world and won't take any allies and will attempt to trick people into helping us so we can spread our brainwashing techniques into their nations so we can take over their nations, too. It's not like I want to be Supreme Ruler of the Earth.

From,
The Supreme Commander,
Supreme Commander of the Cult,
Wants to Take over the Earth

P.S. Darn! Forgot to remove the last line in my signature.

Kaenei needs to start righting philiosophical memoirs and selling them for bundles of money.





And I no longer hate Gay people

Kaenei needs to start righting philiosophical memoirs and selling them for bundles of money.





And I no longer hate Gay people

We back Belem wholeheartedly.

Any nation who would be an enemy of Belem is an enemy of ours.

Kaenei- The government would not exist if the people did not support it. They could easily rise up in Rebellion considering on average every family as 4-6 guns.
They have commiited crimes against nature, crimes against the church and crimes against Belem law which had Homosexuality illegal since the creation of the Empire.
The reason we are changing the laws is because crackdowns on homosexuals have always taken a backseat to crackdowns on communists, heathens, and elf lovers. Only now does the government find the time to attack the next threat to Belem.
And the preferences of people is considered in the final judgement of man. Those who are wicked will be cast into hell and those who are pure will asccend.

Dear Anti-Homosexual Nations,

The government has nothing to do with what I am about to tell you, but the majority conservative people of Nanakaland sometimes stone gays to death. The government actually has to protect all openly gay people. In situations with revolts (like now in Nanakaland), gays have to flee the city because people try to stone them to death. I am against gays, but I don't want them dead. The people, however, voice a far different oppinion.

Best Regards,
President Michael,
President of Nanakaland

P.S. Watch out. The cultists, trying to take over my nation, twist my every words. They will try to gain support of other nations, but they really want to take over the world with their brainwashing techniques. Don't fall for the cult's traps or you, too will have a problem on your hands. The cultists have no mercy.

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Dear Anti-Gay Nations,

We support you all of the way. Give us support taking over Nanakaland and extermintating the gays in the nation. Remember you can always trust an evil cult. Its not like we are purposely taking the opposite view of the President. It's not like we're trying to take over the world and won't take any allies and will attempt to trick people into helping us so we can spread our brainwashing techniques into their nations so we can take over their nations, too. It's not like I want to be Supreme Ruler of the Earth.

From,
The Supreme Commander,
Supreme Commander of the Cult,
Wants to Take over the Earth

P.S. Darn! Forgot to remove the last line in my signature.

transmission to the supreme commander: tell us more about your organization.

We back Belem wholeheartedly.

Any nation who would be an enemy of Belem is an enemy of ours.

We thank pilmour for their support.

"Isn't thou shall not kill a part of your religion too?"

-a random C-G Traveler inside Belem

"Isn't thou shall not kill a part of your religion too?"

-a random C-G Traveler inside Belem

technically the original quote was thou shall not commit murder and this is not murder.

"Isn't thou shall not kill a part of your religion too?"

-a random C-G Traveler inside Belem

technically the original quote was thou shall not commit murder and this is not murder.

At it's very basis, To Murder means To Kill. Every definition of Murder (that has to do with this topic) starts with "To Kill" or some variation there of.

-random C-G Traveler inside Belem

Belem,

We are interested in teaming our organisation with you. Just let us build a few of our "churches" in your nation and everything will go fine between us.

From,
The Supreme Commander,
Supreme Commander of the Cult

P.S. Don't let that fool, Michael, talk you out of this deal.

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Dear Belem,

We, the government of Nanakaland, humbly warn you to not make any deals with this menacing cult. They will ask to build churches in your nation, which got us in this trouble in the first place. The "churches" are really cult outposts in which people are brainwashed. Once there is a signifigant number of brainwashed people, they will spark a revolution in which they will attempt to aquire your nation by taking over your government and dismatling it.

We have tried our best to stop this cult from spreading, but please don't let them trick you. You could lose your government!

Best Regards,
President Michael,
President of Nanakaland

P.S. I pray that this letter gets to you in time. The cult is a trap!

the only Churchs allowed in Belem are Catholic and to a lesser extent other christian denomination churchs.

"Isn't thou shall not kill a part of your religion too?"

-a random C-G Traveler inside Belem

technically the original quote was thou shall not commit murder and this is not murder.

At it's very basis, To Murder means To Kill. Every definition of Murder (that has to do with this topic) starts with "To Kill" or some variation there of.

-random C-G Traveler inside Belem

killing can be justified. murder is killing, but not all killing is murder.

Belem,

But they are Christian Churches! Alright. We have some Catholic Priests in our orginization (it is an orginization that goes by the name cult because of Nanakaland's government's labeling) that we can send. We must build churches, though, as a sign of friendship.

From,
The Supreme Commander

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Dearest Belem,

Don't fall for any tricks the cult can do. They are a cult. Their priests are working for the cult, whether Catholic or not. The cult is evil and uses brainwashing techniques in their so called Christian Churches. Don't fall for what we did. Turn the enemies down now, or a civil war is at hand. They could twist your own people against you by the preaching in their churches. The government would then colapse and be replaced by the Supreme Commander's dictatorship. He would rule completely. Stop listening to their poisoned words!

Best Regards,
President Michael,
President of Nanakaland

No new churches. Churchs are built and regulated by the Arch Diocese.

Dear Belem,

Thank you for realising their evil. They are wolves in sheep clothing, the cult always pretending to be your friend, morphing to fit your likes until they start a revolution and turn on you. I'm glad you have stopped listening to their posioned words.

Best Regards,
President Michael,
President of Nanakaland

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Belem,

What would happen if something was to happen to your Arch Diocese? Then could we build some churches? :twisted:

From,
The Supreme Commander

[OOC: I always wanted to do one of those split personallity things with my nation and now I can!]

The Arch Diocese is regulated by the Vatican and anyone who kills a bishop or priest will be hunted down and burned at the stake.

The Arch Diocese is regulated by the Vatican and anyone who kills a bishop or priest will be hunted down and burned at the stake.

As Government: You need to know a bit about the cult. They are not affraid to lose any members by death. You must make sure no cult members get in your nation.

The Arch Diocese is regulated by the Vatican and anyone who kills a bishop or priest will be hunted down and burned at the stake.

As Government: You need to know a bit about the cult. They are not affraid to lose any members by death. You must make sure no cult members get in your nation.

If the Inquisition gets there hands on a single member within 4 hours he will be screaming the names of every member he knows.

Belem,

We invite the Arch Diocese to visit one of our Catholic Churches to prove that we mean no harm by our churches. We will not hurt a hair on his head.

From,
The Supreme Commander

The Empire of Yuki no Yume demands that the United Nations bring Belem and her cohorts in this most terrible atrosity to trial for crimes against humanity, or our most holy and rightous empress will bring swift punishment upon this most detestable country. Our empress also urges all other nations to take steps to prevent this horrid train of thought.

- Yamikami Sakura, Governor of Ethics and Press

Im sold.

What you are doing, Belem, is promoting a Holocaust. What will it take to erradicate gays from your country? A Secret Police, perhaps? Death camps? Ravea will not stand around qietley while this happens!

Offical Statement from the Prime Minister, on behalf of the People:

As the voice of the Virtual Democratic States of Tiberius-Oni, I (and everyone else) are appalled at this horrid stance that the Belemnese Government has taken against other human beings. We will take in any refugees fleeing Belem so that they experience the wonder that is Virtual Democracy, where everyone is apart of the government.


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Prime Minister Jodaius M. Falster
The Virtual Democratic States of Tiberius-Oni

Belem,

We invite the Arch Diocese to visit one of our Catholic Churches to prove that we mean no harm by our churches. We will not hurt a hair on his head.

From,
The Supreme Commander

You realize it is heresy to practice a religion in addition to Catholicism?

The Empire of Yuki no Yume demands that the United Nations bring Belem and her cohorts in this most terrible atrosity to trial for crimes against humanity, or our most holy and rightous empress will bring swift punishment upon this most detestable country. Our empress also urges all other nations to take steps to prevent this horrid train of thought.

- Yamikami Sakura, Governor of Ethics and Press

Im sold.

What you are doing, Belem, is promoting a Holocaust. What will it take to erradicate gays from your country? A Secret Police, perhaps? Death camps? Ravea will not stand around qietley while this happens!

Belem already has an Inquisition.

Dear Belem,

Make sure you don't send him there. They won't try to kill him, but they'll try to brainwash him.

We have several captured cult members we have been interigating. Now that they have oppenly threatened the Church, it might be time to hand one over to the Inquisition so you can find out the needed information.

Best Regards,
President Michael,
President of Nanakaland

If you hand one over we will make his stay most "enjoyable."

Though I applaud this crackdown on Homosexual activity, I am a little worried about the means in which you will go about enforcing this crackdown, putting the deviants into death camps is not the way of Christ. What has been done in Mezoprincapala is to send the deviants to Reeducation Centers where they will be cured of their illness and be fit to renter Catholic Society. God be with you.


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Prince Ryan uth Elood VI
The Principality of Mezoprincapala

Though I applaud this crackdown on Homosexual activity, I am a little worried about the means in which you will go about enforcing this crackdown, putting the deviants into death camps is not the way of Christ. What has been done in Mezoprincapala is to send the deviants to Reeducation Centers where they will be cured of their illness and be fit to renter Catholic Society. God be with you.




they are first sent to a mental institution and if they cant be cured then they are executed.

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At a press conference earlier today, the Prime Minister of Philberta denounced Belem's anti-Homosexuality movement as "an ignorant ploy to continue the widespread manipulation the country is already experiencing". He was also quoted as saying "The only crime against nature here is the one that has been committed against the forests of Belem, which is left in shambles".

At a press conference earlier today, the Prime Minister of Philberta denounced Belem's anti-Homosexuality movement as "an ignorant ploy to continue the widespread manipulation the country is already experiencing". He was also quoted as saying "The only crime against nature here is the one that has been committed against the forests of Belem, which is left in shambles".

whats wrong with our forests?

OOC: What does BUMP mean?

in the USSC anyone suspected of being a Homosexual, in any way, Is Dragged out of their house at night and out in a solitary prison cell for 6 years.

I suspect your entire government of being repressed homosexuals. As evidence I submit this law, which is clearly a case of homophobia arising out of repression, denial, and/or self-loathing.

I wish you good fortune under your new government over the next six years.

Sakura Kitsuki
Minister of Truth

Please stand by for a special programming interuption for a speech by the elected leader of the Republic of Komokom.

" As a Rep of Komokom, I feel sick to think that there are people out there who will condem free thinking individuals to death for their sexual choices.

As a preventative measure in regard to loss of human life, all individuals, male, female, or other... who feel threatened or enslaved by their nations regulations on sexuality, are here-bi (Did ya see the pun there! :wink: ) welcomed into the Nation State of the Republic of Komokom. If they feel they can aid our society, interlectually, physically, financially or culturally, then they are welcomed, on confirmation of their being threatened by their home nation.

We look to those they run from and say, do not quote the bible, if god says homosexuality or alternate sexuality is wrong then why did he make us able to choose it, and live it, and be it, and love it. Do not say there are risks to health involved, their are risks to health involved in driving a car, or eating potato chips, or working in an office, all things our people are proud to do, probably you and your people too. Do not claim divine right, if you kill another for their own personal choices that harm none, not even themselves, then your no divine entity, you are a fool, and a murderer.

While I myself am "hetero" and as are many of my fellow Komokomians, we are not afraid of some one because they are different, we do not fear you, whether you are black, white, brown, yellow, red, blue or any other colour in the spectrum available to the human eye, we do not fear you because you choose to live a different life, if you enrich our society in even the slightest way, then we are proud to call you our friend, our brother, or sister.

It is you who deserve our compassion, and our welcome.

Death, we say, death, not to people, but to ignorance and hate.

Thankyou for your time, and let me say, "Komokom, now selling happiness at less for cash rates!" "

(National Anthem)

We now return you to your scheduled programming.

The Knootian government issues a statement of strong condemnation of the Belem government. We urge the Belem government to respect human rights blah blah blah etc etc...

~Knootian ministry of Foreign Affairs.

they are commiting a crime against nature.

And you are commiting a crime against humanity.

We hope whatever deity the people in Belem worship(and we know it is't Christ, he preached tolerance after all...) strikes their wicked hearts into the ground... either that or they realize they are following just another myth.

Pointless flaimbaiting Belem, I almost thought you above this...

IC: DNS condems, Ya'll can fill in the blanks. I would be breaking off diplo/econ ties, but they've been broken off since I was but a 27 million nation. And I'm in the 870 million catagory now...

Hm...

OOC: people who are pissed at Belem, mind TGing me? don't need much text beyond 'i hate belem', just a list of names.

The Knootian government issues a statement of strong condemnation of the Belem government. We urge the Belem government to respect human rights blah blah blah etc etc...

~Knootian ministry of Foreign Affairs.

they are commiting a crime against nature.

And you are commiting a crime against humanity.

We hope whatever deity the people in Belem worship(and we know it is't Christ, he preached tolerance after all...) strikes their wicked hearts into the ground... either that or they realize they are following just another myth.

The people of Belem are devout Catholics for the record.

OOC: You're a worry sometimes Belem :lol:

Pointless flaimbaiting Belem, I almost thought you above this...

IC: DNS condems, Ya'll can fill in the blanks. I would be breaking off diplo/econ ties, but they've been broken off since I was but a 27 million nation. And I'm in the 870 million catagory now...

Hm...

OOC: people who are pissed at Belem, mind TGing me? don't need much text beyond 'i hate belem', just a list of names.\

i thought u ignored me?

OOC: You're a worry sometimes Belem :lol:

OOC: lol.

Pointless flaimbaiting Belem, I almost thought you above this...

IC: DNS condems, Ya'll can fill in the blanks. I would be breaking off diplo/econ ties, but they've been broken off since I was but a 27 million nation. And I'm in the 870 million catagory now...

Hm...

OOC: people who are pissed at Belem, mind TGing me? don't need much text beyond 'i hate belem', just a list of names.\

i thought u ignored me?

Nah, it was only temporary.

And what ever happened to people using capital letters in the RP forums?

Hmm..forget to use it there.

The people of Belem are devout Catholics for the record.

OOC: Yes, I know that. It was a barb towards how twisted your nation's interpretation of the faith is.

IC:

Haaregradia wishes your nation would reconsider your extermination of homosexuals. Perhaps allowing them a period to seek asylum in other nations before the mass extermination period. Please, for humanities sake allow them a chance for freedom. If Christ were in charge surely he would allow them a chance to leave.

Haaregradia wishes your nation would reconsider your extermination of homosexuals. Perhaps allowing them a period to seek asylum in other nations before the mass extermination period. Please, for humanities sake allow them a chance for freedom. If Christ were in charge surely he would allow them a chance to leave. The Federated Anarchist Communes of Free Outer Eugenia will gladdly take in any refugees.

DNS will allow the immigration of Belemese homosexuals to DNS-1, or another DNS territory.

Full DNS citizenship, housing provisions untill they get on their feet. And I'll even pay for their transfer to DNS grounds.

The people of Belem are devout Catholics for the record.

OOC: Yes, I know that. It was a barb towards how twisted your nation's interpretation of the faith is.

IC:

Haaregradia wishes your nation would reconsider your extermination of homosexuals. Perhaps allowing them a period to seek asylum in other nations before the mass extermination period. Please, for humanities sake allow them a chance for freedom. If Christ were in charge surely he would allow them a chance to leave.

We are offering to cure them.

And if they are resistant to the cure? Then you kill them?

I have no problem with taking them, and will pay their way.

OOC: and 100% are resistant, because there is no Fscking cure.

we cant be soft on criminals.

International law does not declare them outlaws, and considering that we've been on opposite sides since that thing with kieales, why not just send me some of the gay criminals?

After seeing other dealings with Belem perhaps we could better suit their interests. We will pay the nation of Belem 25 000 000vk($50 million USD) per week of time they give for any homosexuals to escape.

I will accept those outcasted from their governments, because of wrong, inhumane laws. We will provide transportation, protection, and a safe haven for them. If our convoys are attacked during the transfer of the refugees, we will demand retribution. We request the knowledge of safety for our men, in return we will ship them out for you. Also, we will pay a certain amount for shipment, as it would seem we don't want to act as invaders.

-Dictator Kaltios Dezarius
of the Dezarius.

After seeing other dealings with Belem perhaps we could better suit their interests. We will pay the nation of Belem 25 000 000vk($50 million USD) per week of time they give for any homosexuals to escape.

I get 50 million dollars to let criminals escape...interesting...ill have to think about that...

how many total is in your nation?

how many total is in your nation?

a couple of thousand at most.

in the USSC anyone suspected of being a Homosexual, in any way, Is Dragged out of their house at night and out in a solitary prison cell for 6 years.

I suspect your entire government of being repressed homosexuals. As evidence I submit this law, which is clearly a case of homophobia arising out of repression, denial, and/or self-loathing.

I wish you good fortune under your new government over the next six years.

Sakura Kitsuki
Minister of Truth


If you had read the whole thing, you would have know that I withdrew that comment


*Pulls out Glock*

Click, Click BANG!!!!!

*Mercifully Puts Sakura Kitsuki of his misery*

I can pay 55million most to enter you territory with a convoy of one hundred trucks. I can promise that within at within a few weeks, those trucks will transport them from your cities to the docks, and have cargo boats ship them out after they are completely full to my island. I can have a unit of engineers start construction on camps for them, then within a few months, they will become official citizens. This is costly and will take awhile, I'd like some assisstance, but I'd be proud to help them.

I can pay 55million most to enter you territory with a convoy of one hundred trucks. I can promise that within at within a few weeks, those trucks will transport them from your cities to the docks, and have cargo boats ship them out after they are completely full to my island. I can have a unit of engineers start construction on camps for them, then within a few months, they will become official citizens. This is costly and will take awhile, I'd like some assisstance, but I'd be proud to help them.

no deal.

No deal? What must I do to help them. Name your price.

im not allowing anyone in country. thats the only reason i even considered soviets idea.

So what are you planning to do with them?

I smell Genocide approaching


He'll probably Gas them.

That is terrible. They should be forced out of the nation instead. Have them walk. It is better than dieing.

I smell Genocide approaching


He'll probably Gas them.

gassing. nah. Belem either shoots you in the back of the head. wraps you in chains and throws you into the ocean or burns you at the stake.

I'd do something assault wise, but I have no allies, my numbers are few. I feel hopeless.

Belem, how could you!? You know you're not supposed to give the fags a heads up! You're supposed to do it the 1920's prohibition enforcement way! -a tank crushes down a wall at a gay bar somewhere in Geweher-

Join the club bud.


*Pulls Glock*

*Slowly puts Glock Away*

that is brutal.

Here in Geweher, we don't tolerate drug addicts, homosexuals, free speech activists, or any activists for that matter!

I don't tolerate anything that I hate.

As long as you hate fags, you're fine by me.

We, the Nomadic Peoples of St. Monkey, find increasingly bizarre the archaic practices of other nations in the world. It disturbs us that so many peoples in the world feel so vehemently about homosexuals, but moreover, it saddens us that so many people in the world will never be able to experience a threesome, as (until our scientists finish their designs for a third option) it would make at least two of the three participants sinners. This saddens the people of St. Monkey greatly.

However, the more civilized and expressive nations should fear not. Our government-subsidized pornography industry reports record profits from "girl-on-girl" material, meaning this movement is most likely limited to a handful of noisy but harmless backwater nations and does not represent a global trend.

Thank you for your time.

- Cyril St. Monkey
Benevolent Highfather
The Nomadic Peoples of St. Monkey

Can't hate them. But I hate pansy liberals and hippis, does that make up for it? I'd execute hippis gladly. Hell, I'd do it the most painful way possible.

Also, cause girl on girl is fine by me.

Hah, I forgot about girls. Okay, but guy-on-guy is WRONG.

OOC: How is it 'wrong' or for that matter, any of your business?

Because I am God!

Because I am God! OOC: That still leaves the question:

how is it 'wrong' or for that matter, any of your business?

It's wrong because I say it's wrong.

I myself do not see it as wrong, for it is based on love. I don't like it, but hey, I tolerate it. That is what it is all about, toleration. And if you are god, I pray I go to hell. The only people who hate homosexuals are usually rednecks, cause they have extremely low i.q.s and are religious. That is the problem. Over 50% of the world is full of rednecks and religious people.

I am neither a redneck, nor religious. I am a self proclaimed god, because what I say goes (sooner or later). And I base my politics on my own little perversions, so girl on girl is okay.

OOC: my suspicions have proven true! God is a moron.
BTW a God who does not believe in himself... you must have serious self esteem issiues.

Thank you, this is true with many gods.

I am too tired to care right now, and because of that I am shamelessly *Tag*ging this thread for when I can stand to think of something decent to say.

I'm religious,



I think

BTW a God who does not believe in himself... you must have serious self esteem issiues.
I do have self esteem issues. Only one thing is holding me up right now, and no, it's not drugs 8) (The glasses guy is too cool for drugs)

Just say nope

Don't do dope

Life is like a snail race: SNAILS DON'T DO DRUGS.

What was the point of this thread again?

BTW a God who does not believe in himself... you must have serious self esteem issiues.
I do have self esteem issues. Only one thing is holding me up right now, and no, it's not drugs 8) (The glasses guy is too cool for drugs)Or are the drugs too cool for him? :P

Just when you see no hope, leave it to dope!
When all else fails, its good for what ails!

BTW a God who does not believe in himself... you must have serious self esteem issiues.
I do have self esteem issues. Only one thing is holding me up right now, and no, it's not drugs 8) (The glasses guy is too cool for drugs)Or are the drugs too cool for him? :P

Just when you see no hope, leave it to dope!
When all else fails, take whats good for what ails!
Drugs aren't cool. They're like drugs: Not cool.

If you do drugs, you turn into hippies, Or KKK members.


And nobody likes either of them

Oh shoot, I've got a price on my head for sure now

Oh shoot, I've got a price on my head for sure now

Ha! I'm your worst nightmare: a bisexual pot head!

KKK members and hippies aren't the only ones. You forgot gangbangers, I hate those damn punks!

*Pulls GLock AGAIN*


"Ok nobody move, I am horribly confused, and nobody is leaving until I get some answers"

Yeah, they stink too

*Puts Away Glock and realizes that he wasted all o his ammo on that Sakura kitsuki Guy*

Click Click

*Reloads, for future use*

May I borrow that glock? There's a moth in my closet.

"Use this instead"

*Pulls Sawed-Off Shotgun from his coat*

"Ya wont miss"

Yes, trenchcoats are almost as cool as sawed-off shotguns.

Yes, trenchcoats are almost as cool as sawed-off shotguns.I guess my trenchcoat is my one redeeming quality.

Hmm...What colour is it?

The trenchcoat, that is.

I would really like to stay up longer, but it's 12:00 AM here, and I can barely type anymore so i bid you all ado


Goodnight


Sweet dreams

Don't let the bed bugs bite, Gosh what a horrible phrase to tell children as they Go to sleep

"You have insects in your room Timmy, don't let them get you"

Fair thee well

-salutes- God speed, man with strange nation name.

Woah, I just saw an advertisement for the movie 'The Santa Clause 2', and I could have sworn that he was dressed up as Himmler in one of those scenes!

Hmm...What colour is it?Black 8)

Must I remind you all... drugs kick ass. Especially hallucinogenes. Well.. and weed... and E... :D

Hmm...What colour is it?Black 8)
Black trenchies kick ass. Would your name just so happen to be 'Roibihlin'?

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in the USSC anyone suspected of being a Homosexual, in any way, Is Dragged out of their house at night and out in a solitary prison cell for 6 years.

I suspect your entire government of being repressed homosexuals. As evidence I submit this law, which is clearly a case of homophobia arising out of repression, denial, and/or self-loathing.

I wish you good fortune under your new government over the next six years.

Sakura Kitsuki
Minister of Truth


If you had read the whole thing, you would have know that I withdrew that comment

OOC: Two problems with that.

1. No, you didn't. You expressed a change of opinion, but you never officially withdrew the policy.

2. You need to learn the difference between OOC and IC. That was IC.

Oh, and "Sakura" is a female name.

OOC: What are the security arrangements like on your borders Belem?

North west border Acrena

South Border Issachar.

east seaboad.

Belem wall stretches around the entire nation as a defensive measure with designated highway and railroad routes into the country.

OOC: Geez, you built a WALL around your country? Not much with the trust are you? lol.

OOC: Geez, you built a WALL around your country? Not much with the trust are you? lol.

OOC: nope. actually it payed off the former person(a former ally) on my border tried to attack the wall head on then refused to take casualities so i ignored him. but from my standing the wall payed off and held off an assault but he complained and it became a flamewar.

The Queendom of Chuthillia has read the entire thread and takes away Chochezkoo's Glock. The Queendom of Chuthillia respectfully points out the label that says "small parts, not for children under 3"

Besides, Sig Sauers are much better for that type of thing, with 9mm bullets, coated with teflon. That's what Butler uses. *dreams about Artemis Fowl for a moment*

Anyway.

I wholeheartedly disagree with the motions taken to persecute and/or "cure" gays and bis. I do not care that homosexuality goes against the bible. The bible was written by a bunch of old guys who were on Opium at the time of writing.

:evil: Would you like to know who else persecuted gays?

Hitler.

I suppose the next threat to the nation of Belem will be groups of Jews. You'll take motions to try and "cure" them of their "disease" as well.

I open up my country to refugees from Belem or any other country with a redneck for a leader. I'll even pay their fare, rent and grocery bills for the first few months.

So, that's my opinion, and my nation's view on the matter.

The Queendom of Chuthillia has read the entire thread and takes away Chochezkoo's Glock. The Queendom of Chuthillia respectfully points out the label that says "small parts, not for children under 3"

Besides, Sig Sauers are much better for that type of thing, with 9mm bullets, coated with teflon.

Blah blah, other unimportent stuff.

OOC: Are you tripping woman? S.S better man stopper than Glocks? Show me a Sig Sauer that has the power of a Glock 20, and I'll show you aelephant that can make it's head explode un-assisted.

:evil: Would you like to know who else persecuted gays?

Hitler.

I suppose the next threat to the nation of Belem will be groups of Jews. You'll take motions to try and "cure" them of their "disease" as well.

I hate it when people compare other people to Hitler. Fags have been persecuted more than once, assholes! And Hitler wasn't the first to come up with Jew killing, the church during the Crusades beat him to it! Find someone else to compare him to, damnit! And Chuthillia, you're like my friend's sister: Really, really whiney.

Blah, a new law has just been enacted in Geweher: You can no longer use Hitler as a paradigm when comparing people's behaivour.

in the USSC anyone suspected of being a Homosexual, in any way, Is Dragged out of their house at night and out in a solitary prison cell for 6 years.

I suspect your entire government of being repressed homosexuals. As evidence I submit this law, which is clearly a case of homophobia arising out of repression, denial, and/or self-loathing.

I wish you good fortune under your new government over the next six years.

Sakura Kitsuki
Minister of Truth


If you had read the whole thing, you would have know that I withdrew that comment

OOC: Two problems with that.

1. No, you didn't. You expressed a change of opinion, but you never officially withdrew the policy.

2. You need to learn the difference between OOC and IC. That was IC.

Oh, and "Sakura" is a female name.


Ok, I withdraw the comment then

I bet I could find a boy in Japan named Sakura.

Okay. We are handing an evil cultist over to Belem's Inquisition.

(The cultists aren't gay, they just dishonor the Church by setting up fake Churches.)

:lol: Excellent. I send them to a small island where they die out within a generation.

The Principality of Asheville expresses it's distress at the nation of Belem's actions, and will provide any assistance that it can to homosexuals fleeing Belem. We would also be interested in setting up a joint relief program with some of the other nations involved in this if they are willing to work with us.

Prince William I
High Ruler of Asheville

NO offense Asheville, But neither you, nor many others in this thread are capable of doing that.

Why do you hate homosexuals? Surely being nicer is a better idea.

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Belem, please think for a moment here. You have the most history RPing with me, though most of it may be bad. And most of it was in Kieales. But that dosn't stop that I can probably pay you more, and get the gays out.

60mil/week, we'll take care of transportation, just have them at an airfield or large field where we can land dropships.

How strange that the barbarians attach such stigma and fear to something that evolution ensured would bring about pleasure and personal satisfaction... Hmm, soon we are going to have to fix this.


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OOC: Skinhead



IC: I don't think that Belem is ever going to pay attention to any evacuation attempts.



He's just gonna execute them all.

Belem, please think for a moment here. You have the most history RPing with me, though most of it may be bad. And most of it was in Kieales. But that dosn't stop that I can probably pay you more, and get the gays out.

60mil/week, we'll take care of transportation, just have them at an airfield or large field where we can land dropships.

We will give them time to get out but we will not allow foreign transports into the country.

OOC:
Oh, and "Sakura" is a female name.

I bet I could find a boy in Japan named Sakura.

OOC: Possibly, but it would be rather unusual. Along the lines of finding a boy in the US named Mary.

What about the boy named SUE?

Belem, sorry it took me a while to post your defence; I spent hours going through the scriptures for you.

If you use the Bible against Belem, I'll use the Bible for Belem. The Book of Leviticus has it preety clear:

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

I have a few more quotes if you want. Gays are wrong.

Belem, sorry it took me a while to post your defence; I spent hours going through the scriptures for you.

If you use the Bible against Belem, I'll use the Bible for Belem. The Book of Leviticus has it preety clear:

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

I have a few more quotes if you want. Gays are wrong.

Of course, all this proves is that the bible is detestible and should be burned. :roll:

Exactly. If you're going to read the bible closely just to support idiotic and ignorant beliefs such as homophobia, don't stop at finding quotes such as those. The bible also happens to advocate torture, rape, etc. etc. Homophobia seems to be along those lines, eh?

Exactly. If you're going to read the bible closely just to support idiotic and ignorant beliefs such as homophobia, don't stop at finding quotes such as those. The bible also happens to advocate torture, rape, etc. etc. Homophobia seems to be along those lines, eh?

I concer.

BTW do the fundies realize that the bible does not forbid lesbian relationships?

The Sovereign State of Shemlock officially condems this action taken by Belem. Shemlock discourages homosexuality and does not allow homosexuals to hold positions of influence such as public office, but we do not now, nor have we ever condoned execution and forced rehabilitation of homosexuals. Should any of Belems homosexuals need to pass through our territiory to escape this tyranny they may do so.

Belem, sorry it took me a while to post your defence; I spent hours going through the scriptures for you.

If you use the Bible against Belem, I'll use the Bible for Belem. The Book of Leviticus has it preety clear:

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

I have a few more quotes if you want. Gays are wrong.

thanks

those are all Old Testament, which is mainly historical in purpose.

Okay. We are handing an evil cultist over to Belem's Inquisition.

(The cultists aren't gay, they just dishonor the Church by setting up fake Churches.)

want to start another thread for the interrogation?

Belem, sorry it took me a while to post your defence; I spent hours going through the scriptures for you.

If you use the Bible against Belem, I'll use the Bible for Belem. The Book of Leviticus has it preety clear:

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

I have a few more quotes if you want. Gays are wrong.

thanksOOC: So? Moses was a fuck wit. And isn't there something about casting the first stone? (i.e. he who hath not sinned)

I suppose that you all still keep Yom Kippur? :roll:

OOC: wow, it must have been 3 or 4 months since I have seen this silly a## discussion come up. I love ignorant biggots....Yeeeehaaaa.

"The Commonwealth of Derminia believes that the gay population offers the least burdon of all sexualities to the Derminian government's treasury and does not support any nation that outlaws the gay community for this reason."

Senator Vi Tay

The Grand Duchy of Uvon formally condemns Belem and all other nations that participate in the execution of citizens based on sexual preference. Such an act is nothing short of genocide. Furthermore, our nation opens its gates to all those seeking asylum from such oppression.

Our Sovereign, Duc Uvon XXV, has called upon one of the most beloved spiritual leaders of our nation, Holy Sister Rachel, to address this issue.

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I am appalled, as always, to see the Holy Bible used as a weapon of aggression (social or otherwise). I am further astounded that anyone choosing to use the Bible to argue against sexuality would still refer to the book of Leviticus. Though I note that most people who do that are not up-to-date with the latest on these debates.

Yes, Leviticus does condemn homosexuality. Those quotes are correct. However, Leviticus also condemns shellfish (11:10-12).

Leviticus also condemns working on the Sabbath (23:3). As for me, my position as leader of the Church of Divine Compassion rarely permits me Sundays off. Even so, after worship services, I am generally inclined to stop at a nearby coffeehouse for a nice latte. Somehow, I don't think stoning the young lady behind the counter after she serves me would be well-received.

As has already been noted, the primary applications of Leviticus today are largely historical. Actual application of the codes of law borders on insane, though I do confess an interest in observing how you sacrifice your cattle (Chapter 1). I am forced to admit that those directions are not completely clear to me.

There is a growing school of thought that sees Leviticus as an allegory for the death, or sacrifice, of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, 2,000 years after Leviticus was written. The most obvious example is, "a male without defect." There are many others, if you take the time to look and think. Furthermore, many religious leaders today believe that it was the death of Christ that freed us from the bonds of Leviticus; that we were redeemed by his precious blood. That is why today's sacrificial lambs are merely metaphors.

Whether homosexuality is behavioral, genetic, or a combination thereof is academic (though, having three cousins and a brother who are gay, I see strong argument for the genetic theory). My primary points are my indignation to see the Bible used as a weapon of aggression, and my astonishment that people still use Leviticus to make such an argument. If you want to argue against homosexuality through the Bible, stick with Romans. You could also check 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. However, I would also read Galatians 6:10 and 1 John 3:11-24. Most of all, let's not forget the conclusion of 1 Corinthians 13...

"The greatest of these is love."

Peace be with you,

Holy Sister Rachel
Senior Priestess
Church of Divine Compassion
Grand Duchy of Uvon

Belem, sorry it took me a while to post your defence; I spent hours going through the scriptures for you.

If you use the Bible against Belem, I'll use the Bible for Belem. The Book of Leviticus has it preety clear:

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

I have a few more quotes if you want. Gays are wrong.

thanksOOC: So? Moses was a f--- wit. And isn't there something about casting the first stone? (i.e. he who hath not sinned)

I suppose that you all still keep Yom Kippur? :roll:

I am talking about areas that condem gayness. Homosexuality is an unnatural sin. However, the Bible says to love your enemy. Therefore we both condem Belem for the exucutions, but also see their logic. We do not execute gays. All I am saying is that it is not a sin to do so.

Belem,

Let's do the interrigation in another thread. Oh, and all of Nanakaland's recent history is found below (just click on the blue text to go to the threads):

Revolution and conflict with an evil cult that is trying to attack Feline and take over the government. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90086&start=60)

Dispute over Upper Bigtopia/Region of Bigtopia. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93574)

Helping the nation of Pain and Misery in the desert. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93159)

Belem, sorry it took me a while to post your defence; I spent hours going through the scriptures for you.

If you use the Bible against Belem, I'll use the Bible for Belem. The Book of Leviticus has it preety clear:

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

I have a few more quotes if you want. Gays are wrong.

thanksOOC: So? Moses was a f--- wit. And isn't there something about casting the first stone? (i.e. he who hath not sinned)

I suppose that you all still keep Yom Kippur? :roll:

I am talking about areas that condem gayness. Homosexuality is an unnatural sin.

I hope you've never eaten shrimp, or worn a cotton/polyester blend, then. Because they're unnatural sins.

But anything in the seas or the streams that does not have fins and scales... they are an abomination to you. Of their flesh you shall not eat...

Nor shall you put on a garment made of two different materials.

As is wearing unisex clothing (Deut. 22:5), building a residential high-rise (Deut. 22:8 -- parapets required), shaving (Lev. 19:27), getting a piercing or tattoo (Lev. 19:28), and failing to stand up in the presence of someone aged (Lev. 19:32).

On the other hand, things that are perfectly okay to do, according to these books of the bible, include stoning to death anyone who takes god's name in vain (Lev. 24:14-16), destroying any non-Judeo-Chrislamic place of worship (or possibly any belonging to a sect other than the one to which you belong, depending on how strictly you read it -- Deut. 12:2-3), taking slaves (so long as they're women or children; you have to kill the men -- Deut. 20:13-14), and forcing yourself upon a woman (Deut. 21:10).

Yup, obviously Leviticus and Deuteronomy provide a highly evolved moral system suitable for modern society.

...Or, you know, not.

Sakura Kitsuki
Minister of Stoning Disobedient Sons (yep, that's in there, too)

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Good comeback.

Also, many Christian scholars conclude that the rules in the Books of Moses are designed to prove that everyone is a sinner and to prove that Jesus is needed and if you are saved by Jesus, you don't need to follow all of the rules.

If you find these people offensive to your country, we will allow you to 'release your burden' on ours.

Homosexuals are welcomed into the Dominion as equals and shall not be harmed or harassed. We will allow them as refugees.

If the government of the homosexuals wishes to destroy them for other reasons, we cannot make war. We are too ill equiped. But if a homosexual comes to us for protection, we will give it to them.

May peace reign over your country

~~Dictator James Arlock

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Belem, sorry it took me a while to post your defence; I spent hours going through the scriptures for you.

If you use the Bible against Belem, I'll use the Bible for Belem. The Book of Leviticus has it preety clear:

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

I have a few more quotes if you want. Gays are wrong.

thanksOOC: So? Moses was a f--- wit. And isn't there something about casting the first stone? (i.e. he who hath not sinned)

I suppose that you all still keep Yom Kippur? :roll:

I am talking about areas that condem gayness. Homosexuality is an unnatural sin.

I think that the biggest sin of all is being an idiotic bigot who can't come up with reasons to support his narrow-minded, unfair beliefs and therefore must grasp at straws and use vague interpretations of holy books to support them.

thats all Old Testament, which is supposed to be history, not guidelines for modern living.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

The Catholic Church dealt with the child molestation thing by removing the Priests from the Public view.

Also I checked about the Shelfish thing. St. Peter had a vision where Jesus brought down to him the unclean animals of the Jews and said "eat these animals." Which Peter responded "I cant they are unclean" Jesus then replied "Who are you to say they are unclean when I tell you to eat them."

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

The Catholic Church dealt with the child molestation thing by removing the Priests from the Public view.

"removing the Priests from public view".

That's all? They don't get defrocked? They don't get imprisioned? They don't even get FINED?

thats all Old Testament, which is supposed to be history, not guidelines for modern living.

some are history are teachings.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

The Catholic Church dealt with the child molestation thing by removing the Priests from the Public view.

Also I checked about the Shelfish thing. St. Peter had a vision where Jesus brought down to him the unclean animals of the Jews and said "eat these animals." Which Peter responded "I cant they are unclean" Jesus then replied "Who are you to say they are unclean when I tell you to eat them."

You're correct about the child molestation issue. The church 'removed the priests from public view' and refused to turn them in just to keep up a good image. The point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't depend on a church to explain all the unexplained. You can depend on religion or your faith for that, but churches (particularly Catholic ones) are crowded with leaders who may be just as sinful, if not more so, than their followers. The Catholic Church is also horribly, horribly wrong in condemning homosexuality.
Your previous statement about shellfish is totally pointless, as is your current statement about the same topic.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.

Why doesn't the Catholic Church tell that to their Priests first?

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.

You just keep finding more and more ways to outdo yourself in being an asshole, don't you? Well, I wouldn't be surprised to find such utter lack of compassion and sympathy in a disgusting homophobe.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.

Who says they were? The big source of AIDS in africa is it's poorly equip hospitals and the fact that the number of drug needles is so small that have to reuse even the dirty ones for months at a time.

Example:

African woman goes to hospital for flu shot, gets AIDS from needles, doesn't know she has it, gets married a year later and has two kids, wonders why they are getting sick, takes them to hospital, is told they have AIDS and is also told that she and her husband most likely have it to.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.

You just keep finding more and more ways to outdo yourself in being an asshole, don't you? Well, I wouldn't be surprised to find such utter lack of compassion and sympathy in a disgusting homophobe.

a phobia is a fear. im not afraid of homosexuals or homosexuality. I consider it evil and wrong big difference between the two.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.

You just keep finding more and more ways to outdo yourself in being an asshole, don't you? Well, I wouldn't be surprised to find such utter lack of compassion and sympathy in a disgusting homophobe.

a phobia is a fear. im not afraid of homosexuals or homosexuality. I consider it evil and wrong big difference between the two.

However, homophobia is now a blanket statement encompossing all thsoe that condem homosexuality.

I, however, prefer the term "bigot".

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.

Who says they were? The big source of AIDS in africa is it's poorly equip hospitals and the fact that the number of drug needles is so small that have to reuse even the dirty ones for months at a time.

Example:

African woman goes to hospital for flu shot, gets AIDS from needles, doesn't know she has it, gets married a year later and has two kids, wonders why they are getting sick, takes them to hospital, is told they have AIDS and is also told that she and her husband most likely have it to.

That wouldnt account for the high rate of aids in those countries aids can barely last 4 hours outside of the body.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.[/quote]

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.[/quote]

You just keep finding more and more ways to outdo yourself in being an asshole, don't you? Well, I wouldn't be surprised to find such utter lack of compassion and sympathy in a disgusting homophobe.[/quote]

a phobia is a fear. im not afraid of homosexuals or homosexuality. I consider it evil and wrong big difference between the two.[/quote]

Sure, let's have a little debate. You tell me exactly why you think this. Only 1 rule: don't use the Bible to back up your beliefs when you can't think of any other way; we've already seen sufficient evidence that the Bible is an irrational tool to follow STRICTLY as a guideline for living your life, have we not?

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.

You just keep finding more and more ways to outdo yourself in being an asshole, don't you? Well, I wouldn't be surprised to find such utter lack of compassion and sympathy in a disgusting homophobe.

a phobia is a fear. im not afraid of homosexuals or homosexuality. I consider it evil and wrong big difference between the two.

However, homophobia is now a blanket statement encompossing all thsoe that condem homosexuality.

I, however, prefer the term "bigot".

just pointing out the proper definition of phobia u can call it whatever u want it doesnt phase me.

The Catholic Church said later on it wasnt necessary to follow some of the practices put down in Levictus such as not eating shellfish.

Ridiculous. The Catholic Church also refuses to condemn molestation of children when it's their own priests who are convicted. Don't give me crap about the Catholic Church's various interpretations of the Bible, child molestation, and life in general.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.

You just keep finding more and more ways to outdo yourself in being an asshole, don't you? Well, I wouldn't be surprised to find such utter lack of compassion and sympathy in a disgusting homophobe.

a phobia is a fear. im not afraid of homosexuals or homosexuality. I consider it evil and wrong big difference between the two.

However, homophobia is now a blanket statement encompossing all thsoe that condem homosexuality.

I, however, prefer the term "bigot".

just pointing out the proper definition of phobia u can call it whatever u want it doesnt phase me.

And I'm just pointing out the reason behind it's current usage. And like I said, I prefer the term "Bigot".

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.[/quote]

You just keep finding more and more ways to outdo yourself in being an asshole, don't you? Well, I wouldn't be surprised to find such utter lack of compassion and sympathy in a disgusting homophobe.[/quote]

a phobia is a fear. im not afraid of homosexuals or homosexuality. I consider it evil and wrong big difference between the two.[/quote]

Sure, let's have a little debate. You tell me exactly why you think this. Only 1 rule: don't use the Bible to back up your beliefs when you can't think of any other way; we've already seen sufficient evidence that the Bible is an irrational tool to follow STRICTLY as a guideline for living your life, have we not?[/quote]

1. its not natural. A man and man or women and women can reproduce together hence it is unnatural, it is also unproductive to the general goals of society.. 2. being something that is unnatural it is therefore a disorder and or a mental disease that depending on some factors may or may not be able to be cured.

Also the CC's programme to stop the usage of Condom's in Africa, the continant with the highest ratio of Aids.

they shouldnt be running around screwing everything that moves in the first place.[/quote]

You just keep finding more and more ways to outdo yourself in being an asshole, don't you? Well, I wouldn't be surprised to find such utter lack of compassion and sympathy in a disgusting homophobe.[/quote]

a phobia is a fear. im not afraid of homosexuals or homosexuality. I consider it evil and wrong big difference between the two.[/quote]

Sure, let's have a little debate. You tell me exactly why you think this. Only 1 rule: don't use the Bible to back up your beliefs when you can't think of any other way; we've already seen sufficient evidence that the Bible is an irrational tool to follow STRICTLY as a guideline for living your life, have we not?[/quote]

1. its not natural. A man and man or women and women can reproduce together hence it is unnatural, it is also unproductive to the general goals of society.. 2. being something that is unnatural it is therefore a disorder and or a mental disease that depending on some factors may or may not be able to be cured.

1. its not natural. A man and man or women and women can reproduce together hence it is unnatural, it is also unproductive to the general goals of society.. 2. being something that is unnatural it is therefore a disorder and or a mental disease that depending on some factors may or may not be able to be cured.[/quote]

-So, what about women who have health problems and cannot reproduce? They are also unnatural because they can't reproduce with a man, so shouldn't they also be considered evil and shunned?
-->My point is: whoever said that the ability of reproduction validates someone so that you can categorize them into 'natural and good' or 'unnatural and bad'? Not the Catholic Church again, is it?!

1. its not natural. A man and man or women and women can reproduce together hence it is unnatural, it is also unproductive to the general goals of society.. 2. being something that is unnatural it is therefore a disorder and or a mental disease that depending on some factors may or may not be able to be cured.

-So, what about women who have health problems and cannot reproduce? They are also unnatural because they can't reproduce with a man, so shouldn't they also be considered evil and shunned?
-->My point is: whoever said that the ability of reproduction validates someone so that you can categorize them into 'natural and good' or 'unnatural and bad'? Not the Catholic Church again, is it?!

Yet you can cut up the Old Testament and the Catholic Church yet somewhere in Romans 1 (if I had more time, I'd look up the exact verse) it condems homosexuallity.

1. its not natural. A man and man or women and women can reproduce together hence it is unnatural, it is also unproductive to the general goals of society.. 2. being something that is unnatural it is therefore a disorder and or a mental disease that depending on some factors may or may not be able to be cured.

-So, what about women who have health problems and cannot reproduce? They are also unnatural because they can't reproduce with a man, so shouldn't they also be considered evil and shunned?
-->My point is: whoever said that the ability of reproduction validates someone so that you can categorize them into 'natural and good' or 'unnatural and bad'? Not the Catholic Church again, is it?![/quote]

its a disease like any other that prevents the women from getting pregnant only difference is its not a mental disease if she just cant get pregnant.

1. its not natural. A man and man or women and women can reproduce together hence it is unnatural, it is also unproductive to the general goals of society.. 2. being something that is unnatural it is therefore a disorder and or a mental disease that depending on some factors may or may not be able to be cured.

-So, what about women who have health problems and cannot reproduce? They are also unnatural because they can't reproduce with a man, so shouldn't they also be considered evil and shunned?
-->My point is: whoever said that the ability of reproduction validates someone so that you can categorize them into 'natural and good' or 'unnatural and bad'? Not the Catholic Church again, is it?!

its a disease like any other that prevents the women from getting pregnant only difference is its not a mental disease if she just cant get pregnant.[/quote]
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Oh, how I love watching people running in circles as they chase their own tails.
Now, who said that only MENTAL diseases which prevent reproduction from occurring can make a person evil and unnatural?

1. its not natural. A man and man or women and women can reproduce together hence it is unnatural, it is also unproductive to the general goals of society.. 2. being something that is unnatural it is therefore a disorder and or a mental disease that depending on some factors may or may not be able to be cured.

-So, what about women who have health problems and cannot reproduce? They are also unnatural because they can't reproduce with a man, so shouldn't they also be considered evil and shunned?
-->My point is: whoever said that the ability of reproduction validates someone so that you can categorize them into 'natural and good' or 'unnatural and bad'? Not the Catholic Church again, is it?!

Yet you can cut up the Old Testament and the Catholic Church yet somewhere in Romans 1 (if I had more time, I'd look up the exact verse) it condems homosexuallity.

And, your point is?

The Rogue States of Exonerate would like to issue a grave condemnation directed to the nation of Belem. We contend that equal human rights should be given to all of its citizens, and that religion should not be a determining factor in this issue. Furthermore, we contend that the Bible is not a valid source of morality, and that it has long been antiquated. Indeed, we eagerly anticipate the release of the Bible 2.0, where many flaws will hopefully be corrected.

In reponse, we urge our fellow delegates to enact sanctions on Belem, which will bar all non-essential items from imported, and to boycott all exported items, which will hold indefinitely, until Belem corrects its actions, and grants its all of its citizens equal rights.

But a homosexual can force themselves to change if they want to becomeprodutice. There is probably np way for that women to have children ever no matter what she does.

To the claims on Belem's part that homosexuality is a mental disease, we disagree, and submit http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/answers.html#mentalillness for review.

Essentially, it has been determined that homosexuality is NOT a mental disease, and that sexual orientation cannot be changed. Furthermore, we have conclusive evidence that it is genetic in nature, and for Belem do persecute their population as they have done is akin to Hitler's slaughter of over six million people during the Holocaust.

To the claims on Belem's part that homosexuality is a mental disease, we disagree, and submit http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/answers.html#mentalillness for review.

Essentially, it has been determined that homosexuality is NOT a mental disease, and that sexual orientation cannot be changed. Furthermore, we have conclusive evidence that it is genetic in nature, and for Belem do persecute their population as they have done is akin to Hitler's slaughter of over six million people during the Holocaust.

it was considered a mental disease up till i believe 30 years ago and people were considered cured of it.
the rreason it was taken off the list was because lobbyists groups complained about it.

To the claims on Belem's part that homosexuality is a mental disease, we disagree, and submit http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/answers.html#mentalillness for review.

Essentially, it has been determined that homosexuality is NOT a mental disease, and that sexual orientation cannot be changed. Furthermore, we have conclusive evidence that it is genetic in nature, and for Belem do persecute their population as they have done is akin to Hitler's slaughter of over six million people during the Holocaust.

Thank you, Exonerate. It's nice to have someone here who isn't a complete idiot, bigot, or asshole.

The Rogue States of Exonerate would like to issue a grave condemnation directed to the nation of Belem. We contend that equal human rights should be given to all of its citizens, and that religion should not be a determining factor in this issue. Furthermore, we contend that the Bible is not a valid source of morality, and that it has long been antiquated. Indeed, we eagerly anticipate the release of the Bible 2.0, where many flaws will hopefully be corrected.

In reponse, we urge our fellow delegates to enact sanctions on Belem, which will bar all non-essential items from imported, and to boycott all exported items, which will hold indefinitely, until Belem corrects its actions, and grants its all of its citizens equal rights.
Bah! I hate civil rights activists! Geweher is cutting off all connections to your feeble little country.
We are willing to negotiate and reach a reasonable compromise in most issues, but Rogue States of Exonerate feels that this issue is a clear-cut one, with no room for negotiation. If need be, we will sever all our ties, rather than be allied with a tyrannical nation such as yours that has no respect for the rights of other fellow humans.

Homosexuallity itself is not a sin. It is how you act on those unnatural urges.

To the claims on Belem's part that homosexuality is a mental disease, we disagree, and submit http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/answers.html#mentalillness for review.

Essentially, it has been determined that homosexuality is NOT a mental disease, and that sexual orientation cannot be changed. Furthermore, we have conclusive evidence that it is genetic in nature, and for Belem do persecute their population as they have done is akin to Hitler's slaughter of over six million people during the Holocaust.

it was considered a mental disease up till i believe 30 years ago and people were considered cured of it.
the rreason it was taken off the list was because lobbyists groups complained about it.
No, research has improved, which is why it was taken off. Using your logic, the heliocentric theory is still correct, but is only not accepted because Galileo complained about it.

You have nothing behind your reasoning and absolutely no evidence to back your unsupported assertions up.

Concession Accepted.

Homosexuallity itself is not a sin. It is how you act on those unnatural urges.
To the claims of it being unnatural, I submit the example of many other species, such as chimpanzees, dolphins, rams, mallards, etc. Homosexuality occurs in all of the named species, and there are many more unlisted.

Furthermore, something being "natural" is not a valid justification. Rape and incest is natural in many species, that does not make it right.

If you people had been Watching IEN at 6:30pm every Thursday you'd have seen the very popular Buka Makalun Gameshow " Rip the eyes from a queer guy"

The only show that get's higher ratings is the all time favourite on all channels at 7:00pm every night "TODAY'S EXECUTION" :P

If you people had been Watching IEN at 6:30pm every Thursday you'd have seen the very popular Buka Makalun Gameshow " Rip the eyes from a queer guy"

The only show that get's higher ratings is the all time favourite on all channels at 7:00pm every night "TODAY'S EXECUTION" :P

To the claims on Belem's part that homosexuality is a mental disease, we disagree, and submit http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/answers.html#mentalillness for review.

Essentially, it has been determined that homosexuality is NOT a mental disease, and that sexual orientation cannot be changed. Furthermore, we have conclusive evidence that it is genetic in nature, and for Belem do persecute their population as they have done is akin to Hitler's slaughter of over six million people during the Holocaust.

it was considered a mental disease up till i believe 30 years ago and people were considered cured of it.
the rreason it was taken off the list was because lobbyists groups complained about it.
No, research has improved, which is why it was taken off. Using your logic, the heliocentric theory is still correct, but is only not accepted because Galileo complained about it.

You have nothing behind your reasoning and absolutely no evidence to back your unsupported assertions up.

Concession Accepted.

Its very difficult to research mental illnesses even with nearly a hundred years of researching mental illnesses the amount that is known about diseases of the mind is insignificant.
It was taken off the list because of liberal lobbyist groups in the 60s or 70s demanding it be removed.

To the claims on Belem's part that homosexuality is a mental disease, we disagree, and submit http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/answers.html#mentalillness for review.

Essentially, it has been determined that homosexuality is NOT a mental disease, and that sexual orientation cannot be changed. Furthermore, we have conclusive evidence that it is genetic in nature, and for Belem do persecute their population as they have done is akin to Hitler's slaughter of over six million people during the Holocaust.

it was considered a mental disease up till i believe 30 years ago and people were considered cured of it.
the rreason it was taken off the list was because lobbyists groups complained about it.
No, research has improved, which is why it was taken off. Using your logic, the heliocentric theory is still correct, but is only not accepted because Galileo complained about it.

You have nothing behind your reasoning and absolutely no evidence to back your unsupported assertions up.

Concession Accepted.

Its very difficult to research mental illnesses even with nearly a hundred years of researching mental illnesses the amount that is known about diseases of the mind is insignificant.
It was taken off the list because of liberal lobbyist groups in the 60s or 70s demanding it be removed.
Hello there, another unsupported assertion...

Using your logic, what makes you so sure that homosexuality is a mental disease? Besides your bigotry and prejudice, I mean.

The official position of the APA is that homosexuality is not a mental disease. Furthermore, all 'therapy' to change a person's sexuality does not actually do so, it merely represses the natural feelings that person has. Doing so has negative mental health consequences, and a number of people have actually been known to commit suicide after undergoing your 'therapy'

Here's a question:

Can you control what gives you a hardon?
How can you expect these people to?
And what if they truly find love in a person of the same sex?
Is it wrong to love that person?

And I noticed only gay men are being addressed. Seems you christians dont get so riled up about Lesbians, eh? Know why that is? If you do, please tell me, because from here it only looks like more capitalistic hypocracy.

<i>"When I can watch it and get a hardon, hurrah! If it might hit on me when I dont want it to, BOO!"</i>

Of course, the Dominion has no OFFICIAL opinion....

Because it is not natural a society or species of Homosexuals would be extinct within one generation. Therefore it can not be something that would be a dominant trait in society and would be hardpressed to even be a reccesive trait therefore making it a deformatity.

Because it is not natural a society or species of Homosexuals would be extinct within one generation. Therefore it can not be something that would be a dominant trait in society and would be hardpressed to even be a reccesive trait therefore making it a deformatity.

AKA: Let's kill everyone born with less limbs! Or Down Syndrome! Or the Mentally Handicapped! HITLER YOUTH! PERFECT KIDS! SUPER RACE! RAH RAH RAH!

Because it is not natural a society or species of Homosexuals would be extinct within one generation. Therefore it can not be something that would be a dominant trait in society and would be hardpressed to even be a reccesive trait therefore making it a deformatity.
No, I have just given you evidence that it is natural, you are ignoring what I say. I have cited examples, while you have given your hole riddled logic.

There are theories that homosexuality may have arised as a natural method of population control. Furthermore, it reduces the strain on a society by reducing the amount of people born, which becomes more people to feed.

Many genetic diseases are recessive traits, but look at us; we're not overrun by them. Also, a recessive trait does not equate a deformity; blond hair is recessive, does that mean all blond people are ill?

Of course, your point never existed in the first place, because its obvious that our population is not totally compromised of homosexuals, nor close to it.