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World Cup IX Scores and Tables

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Ravenspire
24-10-2003, 17:44
OOC: This thread is going to be for, you guessed it, World Cup 9 scores and tables. 8)

We're currently working on setting up for the Cup, and we plan to start within the next couple of days.

In the meantime, a word about the workings of the Cup.

Matches will be decided based on a formula similar to the previous Cup's, taking the offensive and defensive histories of the nations into account as well as their rank. In addition, there will be two potential bonuses. The first is the home-field advantage; the home team will have its defense increased by 20 points -- with the 'average' being 1000, this is a small but significant number, and it applies to all games. The second is the roleplay advantage. Any team which makes roleplay posts to the World Cup thread will receive a bonus based on their 'ratio' of participation. The maximum 'ratio' is one roleplay post per two matches (so as not to penalize those who miss or are late for one or two, when they otherwise participate regularly), and will result in a 20-point bonus. Making even one roleplay post to the World Cup thread guarantees at least a 1-point bonus throughout qualifying. The roleplay bonus applies only during qualifying. I would hope those who make it through to the Cup proper would roleplay it regardless.

A roleplay post is defined as any post that's longer than a sentence or two and describes some or all of a World Cup match. Format doesn't matter; a sportscast, news article, interview with a player or manager, or a detailed statistic overview (such as some teams posted to the WC 8 thread) all count. Posts to related threads, such as the World Cup 9 Roster thread, also count as roleplay posts. What doesn't count? "We win 8-3." Looking at the score thread could tell us that. Make an effort to give us some flavor detail, and it'll count.

There are 80 qualifying teams. They will be arranged in eight groups of ten. Each team will play against each other team in its group twice; once at home, once away. The top three teams in each group will qualify for the Cup, along with the two hosts.

The qualifying schedule:

Day 1

1 v 5
2 v 6
3 v 7
4 v 8

Day 2

6 v 1
7 v 2
3 v 8
4 v 5

Day 3

1 v 7
2 v 8
5 v 3
6 v 4

Day 4

8 v 1
5 v 2
3 v 6
7 v 4

Day 5

1 v 2
3 v 4
6 v 5
8 v 7

Day 6

1 v 3
4 v 2
5 v 7
6 v 8

Day 7
4 v 1
2 v 3
8 v 5
7 v 6

Days 8-14 repeat days 1-7, but with home and away reversed.
Dennisov
24-10-2003, 19:35
Statisticians have been sent on a refresher course.

Dennisov manager Jacques Martin has been sacked after yet another disappointing WorldCup run...

More on the 8 o'clock news
The Belmore Family
25-10-2003, 16:13
Has the RP thread been started yet?
EL CID THE HERO
25-10-2003, 16:16
i do not know
The Belmore Family
25-10-2003, 17:22
World Cup 5
Qualification
Group 3
Ariddia 2 The Belmore Family 2
Bedistan 1 The Belmore Family 2
Deskreich 1 The Belmore Family 1
Gesamtkuntswerk 2 The Belmore Family 1 (My first ever loss, but I was still 4th with an equal goal difference.)
Svecia 3 The Belmore Family 1(Uh-oh 2 losses in a row)
Nova Empyrea 4 The Belmore Family 1(Ouch down to 5th. But this as to be my last loss for a long time!)
Raidion 2 The Belmore Family 3
Won 2
Lost 3
Drew2
Group 3 looked like this

[code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]
Group 3 P W D L F A GD Pts
Svecia 7 6 0 1 23 8 +15 18
Gesamtkuntswerk 7 5 1 1 13 10 +3 16
Ariddia 7 4 2 1 17 10 +7 14
Bedistan 7 2 3 2 10 10 0 9
The Belmore Family 7 2 2 3 11 15 -4 8
Nova Empyrea 7 1 3 3 9 13 -4 5
Deskreich 7 0 3 4 8 17 -9 3
Raidion 7 0 2 6 9 18 -9 2
[/code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]


World Cup 6(I'm going to like this one)
Qualification
The Belmore Family 4 Futililia 2
Pure Evil 1 The Belmore Family 4
Nevershadow 1 The Belmore Family 3 (3 out of 3)
The Belmore Family 2 VA Industrialized 1
Tha Machine 0 The Belmore Family 4 (5 out of 5...rumours of bribery begin for me and Quohog)
The Belmore Family 1 Lunatic Goofballs 0
Communation 1 The Belmore Family 2
The Belmore Family 4 Futililia 0 (8 out of 8)
Pure Evil 2 The Belmore Family 3(The big complainer loses to me twice)
Nevershadow 2 The Belmore Family 1(Nooooooo... a loss. But I didn't care, I was through)

"BELMORE FAMILY LOSE!"

the lowly Nevershadow have handed TBF their first loss of the campaign with a 2-1 defeat of the corrupted rastards

Tha Machine 2 The Belmore Family 2
The Belmore Family 1 Lunatic Goofballs 2 (Ouch another loss)
Communation 1 The Belmore Family 3(A win to round off an excellent qualifcation)
The Belmore Family 3 VA Industrialized 1 (Ahhh... much better)
Group 4 looked like this
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Group 4 P W D L F A GD Pts
The Belmore Family (47) 14 11 1 2 37 16 +21 34
Lunatic Goofballs (11) 14 9 1 4 29 16 +13 28
Nevershadow 14 6 3 5 24 25 -1 21
Pure Evil (22) 14 6 2 6 25 23 +2 20
Futililia 14 5 2 7 23 30 -7 17
VA Industrialized 14 4 3 7 21 30 -9 15
Communation 14 4 2 8 27 34 -7 14
Tha Machine 14 2 4 8 21 33 -12 10
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Top 10 qualifiers
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Team Name G W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Quohog (25) 14 12 0 2 41 14 +27 36
2 The Belmore Family (47) 14 11 1 2 37 16 +21 34
3 Oglethorpia (13) 14 10 4 0 35 14 +21 34
4 One Red Dot (30) 14 9 4 1 27 12 +15 31
5 Copiosa Scotia (50) 14 10 1 3 34 21 +13 31
6 Halfassedstates (49) 14 9 3 2 33 14 +19 30
7 Malundar 14 9 3 2 32 19 +13 30
8 Runaway Moose (12) 14 9 2 3 22 12 +10 29
9 Audioslavia (40) 14 8 4 2 34 19 +15 28
10 Lunatic Goofballs (11) 14 9 1 4 29 16 +13 28
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1st Round
Group B
Snub Nose 38 2 The Belmore Family 1 (Not a good start)
Total and Utter Insanity 2 The Belmore Family 1 (Getting Worse)
The Belmore Family 2 - Malundar 2(Dreadful)
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Name P W D L F A GD Pts
Total N Utter Insanity 3 3 0 0 7 3 +4 9
Snub Nose 38 3 2 0 1 6 6 0 6
Malundar 3 0 1 2 6 8 -2 1
The Belmore Family 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
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Total 17
Wins 11
Losses 3
Draws 3

World Cup 7
Qualification
Group 10
The Belmore Family 0 Quohog 3 (Not a good start)
Dyelli Beybi 2 The Belmore Family 3 (Good)
New-Persia 1 The Belmore Family 2
The Belmore Family 6 The Weegies 1
The Belmore Family 3 Fart wars 0
Quohog 2 The Belmore Family 1 (DOH!)
The Weegies 1-3 The Belmore Family
Fart wars 2 The Belmore Family 1
The Belmore Family 4 Dyelli Beybi 0

Won 7
Drawn 0
Lost 3

Group 10 looked like this
[code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]Group 10 P W D L F A GD Pts
Quohog 10 100 0 35 2 33 30
The Belmore Family 10 7 0 3 28 13 15 21
Dyelli Beybi 10 4 0 6 14 17 -3 12
The Weegies 10 2 2 6 13 26 -13 8
New-Persia 10 2 2 6 11 26 -15 8
Fart wars 10 2 2 6 10 27 -17 8 [/code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]

1st Round
Lemmitania 3 The Belmore Family 4(YAHOO, I've a glorius victory)
Svecia 3 The Belmore Family 0(Ouch, all I need, however is a win against Giant Zucchini to go through)
The Belmore Family 4 Giant Zucchini 3 (Yes, my first trip to the second round)
[code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]Team P W D L GF GA GD PTS
Svecia 3 2 0 1 8 3 +5 6
The Belmore Family3 2 0 1 8 9 -1 6
Lemmitania 3 1 0 2 7 7 0 3
Giant Zucchini 3 1 0 2 6 8 -2 3 [/code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]

2nd Round
Halfassedstates 2 The Belmore Family 1(There goes my best cup run ever)

Total
Won 9
Drawn 0
Lost 4

World Cup 8
Qualification
Group 7
The Belmore Family 1 Zinkoland 1 (Hmm.... not looking to good)
Jadonopolos 1 The Belmore Family 2
The Belmore Family 0 Keyshona 0 (still, no loss)
Jacktazea 0 The Belmore Family 2
The Belmore Family 2 Tanah Burung 2
Zinkoland 0 The Belmore Family 0
The Belmore Family 1 Jadonopolos 0 (Wow, this is great, 7 matches without a loss)
Keyshona 1 The Belmore Family 3(8 now)
The Belmore Family 2 Jacktazea 1 (9 matches without a loss, can I have a perfect qualifing)
Tanah Burung 1 The Belmore Family 1(Yes, 10 matches without a loss)

Won 5
Drawn 5
Lost 0

After 10 matches, this is what the table looked like.
[code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]Group 7 P W D L F A GD Pts
The Belmore Family (15) 10 5 5 0 15 8 +7 20
Jacktazea (50) 10 5 2 3 19 14 +5 17
Tanah Burung (27) 10 4 4 2 18 12 +6 16
Keyshona 10 4 2 4 17 20 -3 14
Jadonopolos 10 2 2 6 15 23 -8 8
Zinkoland 10 1 3 6 12 19 -7 6[/code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]

1st Round
Group H
Bullonien 2 The Belmore Family 2(Now 11 matches)
Halfassedstates 1 The Belmore Family 1 (12 and I need a win to go through)
The Belmore Family 3 Audioslavia 2 (13 matches without a loss)

Table after the 1st Round
[code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]Group H P W D L F A GD Pts
The Belmore Family (15) 3 1 2 0 6 5 +1 5
Halfassedstates (8) 3 1 2 0 4 3 +1 5
Audioslavia (13) 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
Bullonien (65) 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2[/code:1:7b4ae4a4e6]

2nd Round
Liverpool England 1 The Belmore Family 0 (DOH, my first loss in 14 matches and the first time I have not improved the place where I have been kicked out.)

Total 14
Won 6
Drawn 7
Lost 1

Best Streak:13 matches without a loss
Worst Streak:5 matches without a win
Most Goals for in one match:6
Most Goals away in one match:4
Least Goals for in one match:0
Least Goals away in one match:0

Totals
Maches:49
Wins:26
Draws: 12
Losses:11
Points: 90
Goals for: 106
Goals away: 73
Goal Difference: +33
Runaway Moose
26-10-2003, 00:38
Just looking around... glad to see I didn't miss a game by accident.
Gesamtkuntswerk
26-10-2003, 11:17
Also noting this location.
Spaam
27-10-2003, 12:36
blah blah blah

[code:1:71b7bfabed] P W D L F A GD
55 28 12 15 111 80 31
[/code:1:71b7bfabed]
Spaam
27-10-2003, 12:44
Ok, so this is to get to 1500.... :P

[code:1:b2f5ffad63] P W D L F A GD
61 31 15 15 113 78 35
[/code:1:b2f5ffad63]
Spaam
27-10-2003, 12:50
Spaam vs TBF

[code:1:0fbc8fab30] P W D L F A GD
Spaam 61 51% 25% 25% 1.85 1.28 0.57
TBF 55 51% 22% 27% 2.02 1.45 0.56
[/code:1:0fbc8fab30]
27-10-2003, 12:51
The only reason i complained was becuase the results are total BS. I was ranked 9th in the world and yet didn't managed to qualify but when i was unranked i got in No problems and my 2nd lowest ranked got me in but my high ranks don't. WTF is up with that.
Spaam
27-10-2003, 12:57
And just to compare.... the greatest team ever: Brazillico ;)

[code:1:a1a8c38fff] P W D L F A GD
31 19 7 5 47 25 22
31 61% 23% 16% 1.52 0.81 0.71
[/code:1:a1a8c38fff]
Dead Man
27-10-2003, 13:29
If there are any other World Cups coming up put me in. Haven't been in one since World Cup 4 I think
Ravenspire
27-10-2003, 15:13
You're a bit late for this one (which starts in a few hours), but WC 10 is in signups currently.

PE: It happens sometimes. It'd be pretty boring if being 9th in the world meant you always came in 9th, eh? 8)
27-10-2003, 15:21
I must jojn the next one.
Ravenspire
27-10-2003, 20:15
Matchday 1 Results

Liverpool England 2 2 Kaze Progressa
The Belmore Family 1 1 Zeronia
One Red Dot 2 0 Kegarna
God Squad 1 2 Soviet Haaregard

Haraki 0 2 Eauz
Errinundera 3 0 CallMeBernard
Commerce Heights 2 2 NASTIC 2
Akbarland 1 0 SterlingIce

Bedistan 1 0 Endray-Island
Halfassedstates 0 0 Zinkoland
Antaeus Rising 4 0 Kramerica
Nikea 2 0 Tranquillitus

Timway 1 0 East Spaam
Audioslavia 2 0 Clearwater
Spaam 1 0 Lanky Dude
Aquilla 1 0 Sensual Products

Runaway Moose 2 0 West Arridia
Svecia 1 1 Boa Vista
The Lowland Clans 2 0 Hokianga
Quohog 2 1 Offshore

Oddslavo 0 0 LordSquall
Gesamtkuntswerk 0 1 Consumer Engineering
Dark Outcasts 3 0 Jezland
Pure Evil 2 0 The Redavic Union

Busby 2 1 Defari
Ariddia 0 0 Anti-Nazis
Squornshelous 2 1 Kravoli
Keyshona 3 1 Rejistania

Oglethorpia 3 3 Hell Bovines
Snub Nose 38 5 2 Warnocks Wizards
Demonic Beings 2 0 Evisceratomatoes
Tanah Burung 2 1 Wildthings Realm

Giant Zucchini 4 0 The Dragonian Empire
Gilmeecia 4 1 Auir II
Bullonien 4 0 Morawny
TnUI 3 0 One Blue Dot

Lemmitania 1 1 1900s Oglethorpia
Dennisov 1 1 Belmorian Scandinavia
Kingsford 2 0 Freedom Country
The Weegies 1 1 Terranos
Ravenspire
27-10-2003, 20:18
Tables Post-Matchday 1

[code:1:3aa769df82]
Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
One Red Dot (29) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
Soviet Haaregrad 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Liverpool England (1) 1 0 1 0 2 2 0 1
Kaze Progressa (59) 1 0 1 0 2 2 0 1
The Belmore Family (13) 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Zeronia (79) 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
God Squad (42) 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Kegarna 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Errinundera (15) 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 3
Eauz (52) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
Akbarland (37) 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 3
Commerce Heights (23) 1 0 1 0 2 2 0 1
NASTIC 2 1 0 1 0 2 2 0 1
SterlingIce 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0
Haraki (2) 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0
CallMeBernard 1 0 0 1 0 3 -3 0

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Antaeus Rising (26) 1 1 0 0 4 0 4 3
Nikea (44) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
Bedistan (3) 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 3
Halfassedstates (13) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
Zinkoland (87) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
Endray-Island (54) 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0
Tranquillitus 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0
Kramerica 1 0 0 1 0 4 -4 0

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Audioslavia (18) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
Timway (5) 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 3
Spaam (24) 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 3
Aquilla (36) 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 3
East Spaam (74) 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0
Lanky Dude 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0
Sensual Products 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0
Clearwater 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Runaway Moose (6) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
The Lowland Clans (30) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
Quohog (43) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Svecia (16) 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Boa Vista 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Offshore 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
West Arridia (69) 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0
Hokianga 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Dark Outcasts (33) 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 3
Pure Evil (35) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
Consumer Engineering (90) 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 3
Oddslavo (7) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
LordSquall (53) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0
The Redavic Union 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0
Jezland 1 0 0 1 0 3 -3 0

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Keyshona (47) 1 1 0 0 3 1 2 3
Busby (8) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Squornshelous (25) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Ariddia (19) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
Anti-Nazis (89) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
Defari (70) 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Kravoli 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Rejistania 1 0 0 1 1 3 -2 0

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Snub Nose 38 (20) 1 1 0 0 5 2 3 3
Demonic Beings (31) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
Tanah Burung (39) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Oglethorpia (10) 1 0 1 0 3 3 0 1
Hell Bovines (65) 1 0 1 0 3 3 0 1
Wildthings Realm 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Evisceratomatoes 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0
Warnocks Wizards (77) 1 0 0 1 2 5 -3 0

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Giant Zucchini (11) 1 1 0 0 4 0 4 3
Bullonien (26) 1 1 0 0 4 0 4 3
Gilmeecia (17) 1 1 0 0 4 1 3 3
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 3
Auir II 1 0 0 1 1 4 -3 0
One Blue Dot 1 0 0 1 0 3 -3 0
The Dragonian Empire (55) 1 0 0 1 0 4 -4 0
Morawny 1 0 0 1 0 4 -4 0

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Kingsford (28) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
Lemmitania (12) 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Dennisov (22) 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
The Weegies (45) 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Belmorian Scandinavia 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Terranos 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Freedom Country 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0
[/code:1:3aa769df82]
Total n Utter Insanity
27-10-2003, 20:20
If you put the names last in the tables, you wouldn't have to format them.
Ravenspire
27-10-2003, 20:43
Except the headers would still get in the way, and I'd have to change my spreadsheet.

Would've been a good idea, though.

Anyway, formatting shouldn't be a problem from here out.
NASTIC 2
27-10-2003, 20:48
Tables Post-Matchday 1


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GROUP 2
P W D L F A PTS
Errinundera (15) 1 1 0 0 3 0 3
Eauz (52) 1 1 0 0 2 0 3
Akbarland (37) 1 1 0 0 1 0 3
Commerce Heights (23) 1 0 1 0 2 2 1
NASTIC 2 1 0 1 0 2 2 1
SterlingIce 1 0 0 1 0 1 0
Haraki (2) 1 0 0 1 0 2 0
CallMeBernard 1 0 0 1 0 3 0
[/code:1:1db4dac58f]


We are most pleased with our first point ever in world cup history ;-)
Snub Nose 38
27-10-2003, 21:15
OOC: moved post to "WC9 RP" thread :wink:
Kaze Progressa
27-10-2003, 22:00
From the Daily Kangaroo:

OUR FINEST HOUR IN SPORTING HISTORY

Kaze Progressa secured their finest football result ever by holding defending World Cup champions Liverpool England 2-2 in the CCL Arena.

More on this great story in the RP thread.
Gilmeecia
27-10-2003, 22:07
Here's a link to the RP thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86242).
Snub Nose 38
27-10-2003, 22:16
Here's a link to the RP thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86242).
Thanks
imported_Nikea
28-10-2003, 06:27
Wow, I managed to beat my puppet nation :P

(cleverly disguised tag, my bookmark list is too long)
Kingsford
28-10-2003, 21:08
tagzord
Rejistania
28-10-2003, 21:23
Here comes an orange-blue TAG!
Ravenspire
28-10-2003, 23:36
Double-post.
Ravenspire
28-10-2003, 23:38
Matchday 2 Results

Zeronia 0 2 One Red Dot
God Squad 0 1 Soviet Haaregard
Liverpool England 1 1 Kegarna
Kaze Progressa 2 0 The Belmore Family

CallMeBernard 1 1 Haraki
NASTIC 2 2 2 Errinundera
Commerce Heights 1 0 SterlingIce
Akbarland 1 2 Eauz

Zinkoland 0 2 Bedistan
Kramerica 3 2 Halfassedstates
Antaeus Rising 1 2 Tranquillitus
Nikea 2 1 Endray-Island

Clearwater 2 1 Timway
Lanky Dude 2 0 Audioslavia
Spaam 0 0 Sensual Products
Aquilla 0 1 East Spaam

Boa Vista 0 2 Runaway Moose
Hokianga 3 2 Svecia
The Lowland Clans 1 2 Offshore
Quohog 2 1 West Arridia

Consumer Engineering 1 1 Oddslavo
Jezland 2 3 Gesamtkuntswerk
Dark Outcasts 1 1 The Redavic Union
Pure Evil 2 1 LordSquall

Anti-Nazis 0 0 Busby
Kravoli 0 4 Ariddia
Squornshelous 3 0 Rejistania
Keyshona 0 1 Defari

Warnocks Wizards 1 0 Oglethorpia
Evisceratomatoes 2 0 Snub Nose 38
Demonic Beings 2 1 Wildthings Realm
Tanah Burung 2 0 Hell Bovines

Auir II 2 0 Giant Zucchini
Morawny 1 2 Gilmeecia
Bullonien 4 0 One Blue Dot
TnUI 2 0 The Dragonian Empire

Belmorian Scandinavia 0 2 Lemmitania
Freedom Country 3 2 Dennisov
Kingsford 1 2 Terranos
The Weegies 2 1 1900s Oglethorpia

Tables Post-Matchday 2

[code:1:8191e74296]
Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
One Red Dot (29) 2 2 0 0 4 0 4 6
Soviet Haaregrad 2 2 0 0 3 1 2 6
Kaze Progressa (59) 2 1 1 0 4 2 2 4
Liverpool England (1) 2 0 2 0 3 3 0 2
The Belmore Family (13) 2 0 1 1 1 3 -2 1
Zeronia (79) 2 0 1 1 1 3 -2 1
Kegarna 2 0 1 1 1 3 -2 1
God Squad (42) 2 0 0 2 1 3 -2 0

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Eauz (52) 2 2 0 0 4 1 3 6
Errinundera (15) 2 1 1 0 5 2 3 4
Commerce Heights (23) 2 1 1 0 3 2 1 4
Akbarland (37) 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
NASTIC 2 2 0 2 0 4 4 0 2
Haraki (2) 2 0 1 1 1 3 -2 1
CallMeBernard 2 0 1 1 1 4 -3 1
SterlingIce 2 0 0 2 0 2 -2 0

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Nikea (44) 2 2 0 0 4 1 3 6
Bedistan (3) 2 2 0 0 3 0 3 6
Antaeus Rising (26) 2 1 0 1 5 2 3 3
Tranquillitus 2 1 0 1 2 3 -1 3
Kramerica 2 1 0 1 3 6 -3 3
Halfassedstates (13) 2 0 1 1 2 3 -1 1
Zinkoland (87) 2 0 1 1 0 2 -2 1
Endray-Island (54) 2 0 0 2 1 3 -2 0

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Spaam (24) 2 1 1 0 1 0 1 4
Timway (5) 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
Audioslavia (18) 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
Aquilla (36) 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 3
East Spaam (74) 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 3
Lanky Dude 2 1 0 1 2 1 1 3
Clearwater 2 1 0 1 2 3 -1 3
Sensual Products 2 0 1 1 0 1 -1 1

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Runaway Moose (6) 2 2 0 0 4 0 4 6
Quohog (43) 2 2 0 0 4 2 2 6
The Lowland Clans (30) 2 1 0 1 3 2 1 3
Offshore 2 1 0 1 3 3 0 3
Hokianga 2 1 0 1 3 4 -1 3
Svecia (16) 2 0 1 1 3 4 -1 1
Boa Vista 2 0 1 1 1 3 -2 1
West Arridia (69) 2 0 0 2 1 4 -3 0

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Pure Evil (35) 2 2 0 0 4 1 3 6
Dark Outcasts (33) 2 1 1 0 4 1 3 4
Consumer Engineering (90) 2 1 1 0 2 1 1 4
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 2 1 0 1 3 3 0 3
Oddslavo (7) 2 0 2 0 1 1 0 2
LordSquall (53) 2 0 1 1 1 2 -1 1
The Redavic Union 2 0 1 1 1 3 -2 1
Jezland 2 0 0 2 2 6 -4 0

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Squornshelous (25) 2 2 0 0 5 1 4 6
Ariddia (19) 2 1 1 0 4 0 4 4
Busby (8) 2 1 1 0 2 1 1 4
Keyshona (47) 2 1 0 1 3 2 1 3
Defari (70) 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
Anti-Nazis (89) 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2
Kravoli 2 0 0 2 1 6 -5 0
Rejistania 2 0 0 2 1 6 -5 0

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Demonic Beings (31) 2 2 0 0 4 1 3 6
Tanah Burung (39) 2 2 0 0 4 1 3 6
Snub Nose 38 (20) 2 1 0 1 5 4 1 3
Evisceratomatoes 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
Warnocks Wizards (77) 2 1 0 1 3 5 -2 3
Oglethorpia (10) 2 0 1 1 3 4 -1 1
Hell Bovines (65) 2 0 1 1 3 5 -2 1
Wildthings Realm 2 0 0 2 2 4 -2 0

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Bullonien (26) 2 2 0 0 8 0 8 6
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 2 2 0 0 5 0 5 6
Gilmeecia (17) 2 2 0 0 6 2 4 6
Giant Zucchini (11) 2 1 0 1 4 2 2 3
Auir II 2 1 0 1 3 4 -1 3
Morawny 2 0 0 2 1 6 -5 0
The Dragonian Empire (55) 2 0 0 2 0 6 -6 0
One Blue Dot 2 0 0 2 0 7 -7 0

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Lemmitania (12) 2 1 1 0 3 1 2 4
Terranos 2 1 1 0 3 2 1 4
The Weegies (45) 2 1 1 0 3 2 1 4
Kingsford (28) 2 1 0 1 3 2 1 3
Freedom Country 2 1 0 1 3 4 -1 3
Dennisov (22) 2 0 1 1 3 4 -1 1
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 2 0 1 1 2 3 -1 1
Belmorian Scandinavia 2 0 1 1 1 3 -2 1
[/code:1:8191e74296]
Aquilla
29-10-2003, 02:57
tag
Kaze Progressa
29-10-2003, 09:27
Am I the only one expecting Haraki, LE, Halfassedstates etc. to make a complaint like Pure Evil's in WC8 qualifying? (bump)
Halfassedstates
29-10-2003, 09:39
OCC: crap - plenTy of gAmes yet thouGh!
Liverpool England
29-10-2003, 10:14
Am I the only one expecting Haraki, LE, Halfassedstates etc. to make a complaint like Pure Evil's in WC8 qualifying? (bump)

We have a right to complaint - its never nice being the defending champ and drawing two consecutive games.
Kaze Progressa
29-10-2003, 10:17
OOC: It happens. :D Let's hope the numbers help you... until you meet us again :D
Dark Outcasts
29-10-2003, 11:17
OOc: Technically i'm still on holiday (will be back on thursday) but i found time to come along and decided to TAG this thread.
Snub Nose 38
29-10-2003, 15:16
Am I the only one expecting Haraki, LE, Halfassedstates etc. to make a complaint like Pure Evil's in WC8 qualifying? (bump)
We have a right to complaint - its never nice being the defending champ and drawing two consecutive games.
*hmmm...please note that the SN38 hooligans, ranked 20th, just lost 2-0 to a brand new entrant to international football consisting of a bunch of semi-sentient vegetables. over which we are chuckling heartily* :wink:
Oglethorpia
29-10-2003, 15:42
Am I the only one expecting Haraki, LE, Halfassedstates etc. to make a complaint like Pure Evil's in WC8 qualifying? (bump)

We have a right to complaint - its never nice being the defending champ and drawing two consecutive games.

There are twelve games left.

By the end of qualifying you'll probably have some ungodly goal difference: I.E. +16, +20. Maybe even higher.
Snub Nose 38
29-10-2003, 21:55
The Ministry of Statistics and Other Totally Useless Information
Brings you the following OTUI

After two matches of the fourteen scheduled for the Qualifying stage of World Cup 9, we find that:

There are 14 sides with 6 points, including those ranked:
3rd, 6th, 17th, 25th, 26th, 29th, 31st, 35th, 39th, 43rd, 44th, 49th, 52nd, and 1 unranked side

There are no sides with 5 points – which makes sense, because after two matches it is statistically impossible to have 5 points

There are 11 sides with 4 points, including those ranked:
8th, 12th, 15th, 19th, 23rd, 24th, 33rd, 45th, 59th, 90th, and 1 unranked side

There are 23 sides with 3 points, including those ranked:
5th, 11th, 18th, 2 sides ranked 20th, 26th, 28th, 30th, 36th, 37th, 47th, 70th, 74th, 77th, and 9 unranked sides

There are 4 sides with 2 points, including those ranked:
1st, 7th, 89th, and 1 unranked side

There are 17 sides with 1 point, including those ranked:
2nd, 10th, 2 sides ranked 13th, 16th, 22nd, 53rd, 56th, 65th, 79th, 87th, and 6 unranked sides

There are 11 sides with 0 points, including those ranked:
42nd, 54th, 55th, 69th, and 7 unranked sides

Individually, there are some sides that can justifiably feel shortchanged by the random number gods. Overall - it looks like a nice random spread, with a little advantage to the average ranked side.
Ravenspire
29-10-2003, 22:49
Matchday 3 Results

One Red Dot 2 0 God Squad
Soviet Haaregard 0 1 Kegarna
The Belmore Family 1 3 Liverpool England
Zeronia 1 1 Kaze Progressa

Haraki 1 1 NASTIC 2
Errinundera 1 1 SterlingIce
Eauz 1 2 Commerce Heights
CallMeBernard 1 2 Akbarland

Bedistan 1 0 Kramerica
Halfassedstates 1 0 Tranquillitus
Endray-Island 2 1 Antaeus Rising
Zinkoland 1 2 Nikea

Timway 2 4 Lanky Dude
Audioslavia 1 1 Sensual Products
East Spaam 0 1 Spaam
Clearwater 0 3 Aquilla

Runaway Moose 2 1 Hokianga
Svecia 3 1 Offshore
West Arridia 2 0 The Lowland Clans
Boa Vista 1 1 Quohog

Oddslavo 4 0 Jezland
Gesamtkuntswerk 3 0 The Redavic Union
LordSquall 3 0 Dark Outcasts
Consumer Engineering 2 3 Pure Evil

Busby 3 1 Kravoli
Ariddia 1 0 Rejistania
Defari 2 2 Squornshelous
Anti-Nazis 0 0 Keyshona

Oglethorpia 3 0 Evisceratomatoes
Snub Nose 38 1 1 Wildthings Realm
Hell Bovines 2 1 Demonic Beings
Warnocks Wizards 1 1 Tanah Burung

Giant Zucchini 0 0 Morawny
Gilmeecia 2 0 One Blue Dot
The Dragonian Empire 1 1 Bullonien
Auir II 0 2 TnUI

Lemmitania 2 1 Freedom Country
Dennisov 0 1 Terranos
1900s Oglethorpia 1 3 Kingsford
Belmorian Scandinavia 1 1 The Weegies


Tables Post-Matchday 3
[code:1:cc32246a1b]
Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
One Red Dot (29) 3 3 0 0 6 0 6 9
Soviet Haaregrad 3 2 0 1 3 2 1 6
Liverpool England (1) 3 1 2 0 6 4 2 5
Kaze Progressa (59) 3 1 2 0 5 3 2 5
Kegarna 3 1 1 1 2 3 -1 4
Zeronia (79) 3 0 2 1 2 4 -2 2
The Belmore Family (13) 3 0 1 2 2 6 -4 1
God Squad (42) 3 0 0 3 1 5 -4 0

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Commerce Heights (23) 3 2 1 0 5 3 2 7
Eauz (52) 3 2 0 1 5 3 2 6
Akbarland (37) 3 2 0 1 4 3 1 6
Errinundera (15) 3 1 2 0 6 3 3 5
NASTIC 2 3 0 3 0 5 5 0 3
Haraki (2) 3 0 2 1 2 4 -2 2
SterlingIce 3 0 1 2 1 3 -2 1
CallMeBernard 3 0 1 2 2 6 -4 1

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Nikea (44) 3 3 0 0 6 2 4 9
Bedistan (3) 3 3 0 0 4 0 4 9
Halfassedstates (13) 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4
Antaeus Rising (26) 3 1 0 2 6 4 2 3
Endray-Island (54) 3 1 0 2 3 4 -1 3
Tranquillitus 3 1 0 2 2 4 -2 3
Kramerica 3 1 0 2 3 7 -4 3
Zinkoland (87) 3 0 1 2 1 4 -3 1

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Spaam (24) 3 2 1 0 2 0 2 7
Lanky Dude 3 2 0 1 6 3 3 6
Aquilla (36) 3 2 0 1 4 1 3 6
Audioslavia (18) 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4
East Spaam (74) 3 1 0 2 1 2 -1 3
Timway (5) 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
Clearwater 3 1 0 2 2 6 -4 3
Sensual Products 3 0 2 1 1 2 -2 2

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Runaway Moose (6) 3 3 0 0 6 1 5 9
Quohog (43) 3 2 1 0 5 3 2 7
Svecia (16) 3 1 1 1 6 5 1 4
The Lowland Clans (30) 3 1 0 2 3 4 -1 3
West Arridia (69) 3 1 0 2 3 4 -1 3
Offshore 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
Hokianga 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
Boa Vista 3 0 2 1 2 4 -2 2

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Pure Evil (35) 3 3 0 0 7 3 4 9
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 3 2 0 1 6 3 3 6
Oddslavo (7) 3 1 2 0 5 1 4 5
LordSquall (53) 3 1 1 1 4 2 2 4
Dark Outcasts (33) 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 4
Consumer Engineering (90) 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 4
The Redavic Union 3 0 1 2 1 6 -5 1
Jezland 3 0 0 3 2 10 -8 0

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Ariddia (19) 3 2 1 0 5 0 5 7
Squornshelous (25) 3 2 1 0 7 3 4 7
Busby (8) 3 2 1 0 5 2 3 7
Keyshona (47) 3 1 1 1 3 2 1 4
Defari (70) 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 4
Anti-Nazis (89) 3 0 3 0 0 0 0 3
Rejistania 3 0 0 3 1 7 -6 0
Kravoli 3 0 0 3 2 9 -7 0

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Tanah Burung (39) 3 2 1 0 5 2 3 7
Demonic Beings (31) 3 2 0 1 5 3 2 6
Oglethorpia (10) 3 1 1 1 6 4 2 4
Snub Nose 38 (20) 3 1 1 1 6 5 1 4
Hell Bovines (65) 3 1 1 1 5 6 -1 4
Warnocks Wizards (77) 3 1 1 1 4 6 -2 4
Evisceratomatoes 3 1 0 2 2 5 -3 3
Wildthings Realm 3 0 1 2 3 5 -2 1

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 3 3 0 0 8 0 8 9
Gilmeecia (17) 3 3 0 0 8 2 6 9
Bullonien (26) 3 2 1 0 9 1 8 7
Giant Zucchini (11) 3 1 1 1 4 2 2 4
Auir II 3 1 0 2 3 6 -3 3
Morawny 3 0 1 2 1 6 -5 1
The Dragonian Empire (55) 3 0 1 2 1 7 -6 1
One Blue Dot 3 0 0 3 0 9 -9 0

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Lemmitania (12) 3 2 1 0 5 2 3 7
Terranos 3 2 1 0 4 2 2 7
Kingsford (28) 3 2 0 1 6 3 3 6
The Weegies (45) 3 1 2 0 4 3 1 5
Freedom Country 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
Belmorian Scandinavia 3 0 2 1 2 4 -2 2
Dennisov (22) 3 0 1 2 3 5 -2 1
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 3 0 1 2 3 6 -3 1
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Spaam
30-10-2003, 00:36
[code:1:75971edbeb]
Average Points

4.5 |
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4.0 | * *
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3.5 |
+-------------------------------
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10


Point Variance

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3.0 | * *
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2.0 |
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+-------------------------------
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10


Average Goals
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1.4 | * * *
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1.2 |
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1.0 |
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+-------------------------------
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

[/code:1:75971edbeb]
Oglethorpia
30-10-2003, 00:43
[code:1:e4a607b5a5]
Average Goals
| *
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1.4 | * * *
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1.2 |
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1.0 |
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+-------------------------------
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

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Go group 8! Most average goals per game!
Spaam
30-10-2003, 00:56
Spaam
30-10-2003, 00:58
Best Offense: 9 - Bullonien
Best Defense: 0 - ORD, Bedistan, Spaam, Ariddia, Anti-Nazis, TnUI
Best GD: 8 - TnUI, Bullonien
Worst Offense: 0 - Anti-Nazis, OBD
Worst Defense: 10 - Jezland
Worst GD: -9 - OBD

Best Unseeded: 7 - Terranos
Worst Seeded: 0 - God Squad

Spaam has only scored 2 goals in 3 games, but is still outright leader. This is only one more goal than the theoretical minimum.
Less than one goal is scored by each team in each game on average in Group 4.
The closest groups are Group 4 and 8.
One unseeded team is equal first on points, and only one goal off equal first outright.
Spaam
30-10-2003, 06:54
Best Goalscorers Ever

Put your best goalscorers ever here. PLEASE be realistic, and remember, I can check, being the archive
keeper :P This isn't a competition, just a chance to list our greats. Must have a minimum of 25 goals
to be on the list. Only include World Cup and Qualifying goals.

[code:1:bdca0666d2]
Rank Name Nation Goals Games World Cups
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Urk Giant Zucchini 96 62 I - IX
2. Samin Akbar Akbarland 43 42 VI - IX
3. Mèla Sëhelin Spaam 33 33 VII - IX
4. Paul Dussis Liverpool England 33 37 VI - IX
5. William Wallace Halfassedstates 28 ?? V - VIII
6. Rohir Dorth Spaam 25 30 VII - VIII

[/code:1:bdca0666d2]
Liverpool England
30-10-2003, 06:58
Paul Dussis
Goals WC6: 6
Goals WC7: 8
Goals WC8: 15
Total: 29
Games: About 25
Spaam
30-10-2003, 07:10
Paul Dussis
Goals WC6: 6
Goals WC7: 8
Goals WC8: 15
Total: 29
Games: About 25

I take it he's not playing in this Cup? And LE played 46 games during those three cups, so I'm not sure that he would've only played 25 games. And he must be great, since he scored about half your goals in WC8.....

Oh and note, these include penalty shootouts....
Liverpool England
30-10-2003, 07:16
include penalties? Alright

WC6: 6
WC7: 8
WC8 Qual: 9
WC8 Proper: 6
WC8 Proper (Penalty shootouts): 4
WC9 so far: 3
So far up till 3rd game, Qual WC9: 36
Games played: About 37
Avg goals per game: just under 1
Spaam
30-10-2003, 07:17
[code:1:408f74b9b0]Liverpool England
P W D L F A GD
47 25 10 12 84 59 25
[/code:1:408f74b9b0]


Ok, well, how many games has he played now, and I'm thinking that 19 goals out of about 29 is a helluva lot. Especially since you only ever scored 1 penalty shootout goal.
Ravenspire
30-10-2003, 07:52
FYI: Tomorrow's scores will be posted quite late, no earlier than 9:30 PM US Eastern time. Sunday's will also be fairly late.
Giant Zucchini
30-10-2003, 09:30
OOC: Break from study to post here...

IC:

Giant Zucchini puts forward its best goalscorer in its history, the legendary Urk:

Urk:
Goals WC1: 6 (No qualification)
Goals WC2: 6 (No qualification)
Goals WC3: 21
Goals WC4: 6 (Auto-qualification)
Goals WC5: 6 (Auto-qualification)
Goals WC6: 17
Goals WC7: 21
Goals WC8: 10
Goals WC9: 3
Total: 96
Games: 62
30-10-2003, 10:39
Akbarland's al-time best goalscorer since world cup 6 :

Samin Akbar with 43 goals in 42 matches. (Missed only one match in Akbarland's WC history.)
Spaam
30-10-2003, 11:49
Please note that, apart from the great Urk, who is undoubtedle the greatest football player ever, most footballers play no more than 3 World Cups. Onlly 16 have played more than 3, and of those, only one was a big goal scorer, namely, Pele. So really, you're not being very realistic here....
Halfassedstates
30-10-2003, 13:08
OCC: Since wc6 (as i can't find my stuff from wc5 or anything on the forums here!)

Top scorers {including qualifing matches, but not penalty shoot-outs}(* indicates also played in WC 5 - records were lost in the Great Storm)
[code:1:3c130ad65c] WC6 WC7 WC8 total
William Wallace 16 6 5 27*
Nea Hope 2 13 7 22
Freddy Crewgar 0 2 8 10
Ree King 3 7 0 10
Al Bundy 0 3 5 8
Ian Paisley 8 0 0 8*
Gerry Adams 7 0 0 7*[/code:1:3c130ad65c]
Giant Zucchini
30-10-2003, 13:37
Please note that, apart from the great Urk, who is undoubtedle the greatest football player ever, most footballers play no more than 3 World Cups. Onlly 16 have played more than 3, and of those, only one was a big goal scorer, namely, Pele. So really, you're not being very realistic here....

Ah...the joy of being a zucchini...
Spaam
30-10-2003, 13:39
[code:1:2fe0300d12]
WCVI.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVI.dat:Errinundera 1 Halfassedstates 3
WCVI.dat:Europa Britannia 1 Halfassedstates 2
WCVI.dat:Halfassedstates 0 Akbarland 0
WCVIF.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVIF.dat:Halfassedstates 1 Kingsford 0
WCVIF.dat:Halfassedstates 0 Spaam 0 AET 0:0 PSO 1:3
WCVII.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVII.dat:Halfassedstates 1 Dennisov 2
WCVII.dat:Halfassedstates 4 Timway 0
WCVII.dat:Halfassedstates 3 Squornshelous 1
WCVIIF.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVIIF.dat:Halfassedstates 2 The Belmore Family 1
WCVIIF.dat:Halfassedstates 1 Spaam 2 AET 1:1
WCVIII.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVIII.dat:Halfassedstates 2 Audioslavia 1
WCVIII.dat:Halfassedstates 1 The Belmore Family 1
WCVIII.dat:Halfassedstates 1 Bullonien 1
WCVIIIF.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVIIIF.dat:Busby 3 Halfassedstates 2
WCVIIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVIIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 2 Jekonuam 2
WCVIIIQ.dat:Bardai 0 Halfassedstates 6
WCVIIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 4 LordSquall 2
WCVIIIQ.dat:Simba Polo 0 Halfassedstates 2
WCVIIIQ.dat:Svecia 3 Halfassedstates 0
WCVIIIQ.dat:Jekonuam 1 Halfassedstates 1
WCVIIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 3 Bardai 0
WCVIIIQ.dat:LordSquall 1 Halfassedstates 2
WCVIIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 1 Simba Polo 1
WCVIIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 1 Svecia 3
WCVIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVIIQ.dat:Akbarland 2 Halfassedstates 0
WCVIIQ.dat:The Promise of Joshua 0 Halfassedstates 2
WCVIIQ.dat:Estiv 0 Halfassedstates 3
WCVIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 3 Melita and Gaulos 0
WCVIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 4 Tha Machine 1
WCVIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 2 Akbarland 1
WCVIIQ.dat:Tha Machine 0 Halfassedstates 4
WCVIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 4 Estiv 0
WCVIIQ.dat:Melita and Gaulos 0 Halfassedstates 2
WCVIIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 2 The Promise of Joshua 1
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 3 Tintinnabulation 1
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 4 Pavesia 3
WCVIQ.dat:Tiburon 0 Halfassedstates 3
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 1 Dead Man 1
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 2 Malundar 2
WCVIQ.dat:Aves 0 Halfassedstates 3
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 1 Vegimite 2
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 4 Tintinnabulation 2
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 0 Pavesia 0
WCVIQ.dat:Tiburon 0 Halfassedstates 2
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 5 Dead Man 2
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 0 Malundar 1
WCVIQ.dat:Aves 0 Halfassedstates 4
WCVIQ.dat:Halfassedstates 1 Vegimite 0
WCVQ.dat:Halfassedstates
WCVQ.dat:Dark Outcasts 3 Halfassedstates 3
WCVQ.dat:Christofi 1 Halfassedstates 1
WCVQ.dat:Caras Sidh 1 Halfassedstates 2
WCVQ.dat:Audioslavia 4 Halfassedstates 0
WCVQ.dat:Halfassedstates 2 Hendland 1
WCVQ.dat:Halfassedstates 0 Squornshelous 1
WCVQ.dat:Halfassedstates 1 One Red Dot 3
[/code:1:2fe0300d12]
Snub Nose 38
30-10-2003, 14:25
A bunch of stuff in code that started - ended like this[code:1:32f5bfac8e]
WCVI.dat:Halfassedstates0 ...
WCVQ.dat:Halfassedstates 1 One Red Dot 3
[/code:1:32f5bfac8e]
The Minister of Statistics and Other Totally Useless Information is impressed. Not only have Spaam Statisticians created and delivered to us all an excellent statistical chart, they have also managed to keep secret whatever hidden meaning the chart may have, thus making it a beautiful example of OTUI (Other Totally Useless Information)

The Minister raises his figurative glass in a toast to a worthy compatriot.
:wink:
Halfassedstates
30-10-2003, 14:31
I think its all for me - as i'd mentioned losing my WC5 records, what Spaam has kindly posted is in fact a complete history of the Halfassed nations attempts to win the greatest prise in the game!

WCVI = WC6 proper
WCVQ = WC5 qualifying etc.


Cheers Spaam :D
Spaam
30-10-2003, 14:50
~smacks Snub Nose 38/20/42~

Now see, this Halfassedstates is a smart one ;)

So how about you now fix up your records considering you now have your WCV results :P
Snub Nose 38
30-10-2003, 15:01
~smacks Snub Nose 38/20/42~

Now see, this Halfassedstates is a smart one ;)

So how about you now fix up your records considering you now have your WCV results :P
*hmmm...42...according to douglas adams, the meaning of life...hmmm* :wink:
Spaam
30-10-2003, 15:04
~smacks Snub Nose 38/20/42~

Now see, this Halfassedstates is a smart one ;)

So how about you now fix up your records considering you now have your WCV results :P
*hmmm...42...according to douglas adams, the meaning of life...hmmm* :wink:

Wow! You're so smart! :shock:

:P :twisted:
Halfassedstates
30-10-2003, 15:20
Top scorers ever {including qualifiers and penalty shoot outs}
[code:1:c2e51930b7] WC5 WC6 WC7 WC8 total
William Wallace 1 16 6 5 28
Nea Hope n/p 2 13 7 22
Ian Paisley 4 8 n/p n/p 12
Gerry Adams 4 8 n/p n/p 12
Ree King 0 4 7 n/p 11 (including 1 in Pen. shoot out in WC6)
Freddy Crewgar n/p n/p 2 8 10
Al Bundy n/p n/p 3 5 8
[/code:1:c2e51930b7]

n/p = not participating


Cheers again Spaam
Spaam
30-10-2003, 15:35
Top scorers ever {including qualifiers and penalty shoot outs}
[code:1:fda0b63aaa] WC5 WC6 WC7 WC8 total
William Wallace 1 16 6 5 28
Nea Hope n/p 2 13 7 22
Freddy Crewgar n/p n/p 2 8 10
Ree King 0 4 7 n/p 11 (including 1 in Pen. shoot out in WC6)
Al Bundy n/p n/p 3 5 8
Ian Paisley 4 8 n/p n/p 12
Gerry Adams 4 8 n/p n/p 12[/code:1:fda0b63aaa]

n/p = not participating


Cheers again Spaam

How many games did William Wallace play in?
Halfassedstates
30-10-2003, 16:44
Wallace played in 52 out of 58 games so far. (including three to date in WC9)
He sat out the final qualifiying game of WC8 against Svecia and then got injured against TBF in the group stage of WC8 and retired.

Hope has played in 42 games. 3 so far in WC9, all 14 in WC8, 15 in WC7 and 3 as starter in WC6. (he also made 7 substitute appearences in WC6)
Spaam
30-10-2003, 16:49
Best Goalscorers Ever

Put your best goalscorers ever here. PLEASE be realistic, and remember, I can check, being the archive
keeper :P This isn't a competition, just a chance to list our greats. Must have a minimum of 25 goals
to be on the list. Only include World Cup and Qualifying goals.

[code:1:f6c1ed098f]
Rank Name Nation Goals Games World Cups
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Urk Giant Zucchini 96 62 I - IX
2. Samin Akbar Akbarland 43 42 VI - IX
3. Mèla Sëhelin Spaam 33 33 VII - IX
4. Paul Dussis Liverpool England 33 37 VI - IX
5. William Wallace Halfassedstates 28 52 V - VIII
6. Rohir Dorth Spaam 25 30 VII - VIII

[/code:1:f6c1ed098f]
Snub Nose 38
30-10-2003, 16:59
Well, our best would be Knuckles, but I really have no idea if he's scored 25 or more goals. Whatever, this will be his last WC - he's getting on in years. He is considering the possiblity of managing/coaching, though.
Tanah Burung
30-10-2003, 18:06
TB's top scorer is Ab Francisco who played in WC2-6, but i haven't kept records. He is, however, our worst coach ever.

Wouldn't this be betetr as a separate thread that doesn't spam up the scores thread?
Kaze Progressa
30-10-2003, 20:37
Good idea :) amidst the spam I've spotted a mistake - Kegarna beat Soviet Haaregrad but don't have a win to their name in the tables. As a result of this (and possibly another mistake, haven't really looked) there appear to be a total 9 wins and 7 losses, when the two numbers should of course be identical.
Ravenspire
30-10-2003, 22:32
Bloody forums.
Ravenspire
30-10-2003, 22:32
Yep... credited them both the same by accident. Now fixed.

Anyway, I lied. On to day 4:

Matchday 4 Results

Kegarna 1 2 One Red Dot
The Belmore Family 2 0 Soviet Haaregard
Liverpool England 2 1 Zeronia
God Squad 1 2 Kaze Progressa

SterlingIce 1 2 Haraki
Eauz 1 0 Errinundera
Commerce Heights 1 2 CallMeBernard
NASTIC 2 0 4 Akbarland

Tranquillitus 0 1 Bedistan
Endray-Island 0 2 Halfassedstates
Antaeus Rising 2 1 Zinkoland
Kramerica 1 1 Nikea

Sensual Products 1 1 Timway
East Spaam 1 0 Audioslavia
Spaam 1 0 Clearwater
Lanky Dude 1 1 Aquilla

Offshore 1 3 Runaway Moose
West Arridia 0 2 Svecia
The Lowland Clans 0 0 Boa Vista
Hokianga 0 1 Quohog

The Redavic Union 1 0 Oddslavo
LordSquall 1 1 Gesamtkuntswerk
Dark Outcasts 2 1 Consumer Engineering
Jezland 0 1 Pure Evil

Rejistania 1 3 Busby
Defari 0 2 Ariddia
Squornshelous 0 0 Anti-Nazis
Kravoli 0 1 Keyshona

Wildthings Realm 1 3 Oglethorpia
Hell Bovines 0 2 Snub Nose 38
Demonic Beings 0 1 Warnocks Wizards
Evisceratomatoes 0 1 Tanah Burung

One Blue Dot 1 3 Giant Zucchini
The Dragonian Empire 1 2 Gilmeecia
Bullonien 0 0 Auir II
Morawny 0 1 TnUI

Terranos 0 1 Lemmitania
1900s Oglethorpia 1 3 Dennisov
Kingsford 2 0 Belmorian Scandinavia
Freedom Country 0 2 The Weegies

Tables Post-Matchday 4
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Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
One Red Dot (29) 4 4 0 0 8 1 7 12
Liverpool England (1) 4 2 2 0 8 5 3 8
Kaze Progressa (59) 4 2 2 0 7 4 3 8
Soviet Haaregrad 4 2 0 2 3 4 -1 6
The Belmore Family (13) 4 1 1 2 4 6 -2 4
Kegarna 4 1 1 2 3 5 -2 4
Zeronia (79) 4 0 2 2 3 6 -3 2
God Squad (42) 4 0 0 4 2 7 -5 0

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Akbarland (37) 4 3 0 1 8 3 5 9
Eauz (52) 4 3 0 1 6 3 3 9
Commerce Heights (23) 4 2 1 1 6 5 1 7
Errinundera (15) 4 1 2 1 6 4 2 5
Haraki (2) 4 1 2 1 4 5 -1 5
CallMeBernard 4 1 1 2 4 7 -3 4
NASTIC 2 4 0 3 1 5 9 -4 3
SterlingIce 4 0 1 3 2 5 -3 1

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Bedistan (3) 4 4 0 0 5 0 5 12
Nikea (44) 4 3 1 0 7 3 4 10
Halfassedstates (13) 4 2 1 1 5 3 2 7
Antaeus Rising (26) 4 2 0 2 8 5 3 6
Kramerica 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
Endray-Island (54) 4 1 0 3 3 6 -3 3
Tranquillitus 4 1 0 3 2 5 -3 3
Zinkoland (87) 4 0 1 3 2 6 -4 1

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Spaam (24) 4 3 1 0 3 0 3 10
Lanky Dude 4 2 1 1 7 4 3 7
Aquilla (36) 4 2 1 1 5 2 3 7
East Spaam (74) 4 1 0 2 2 2 0 6
Audioslavia (18) 4 1 1 2 3 4 -1 4
Timway (5) 4 1 1 2 5 7 -2 4
Sensual Products 4 0 3 1 2 3 -2 3
Clearwater 4 1 0 3 2 7 -5 3

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Runaway Moose (6) 4 4 0 0 9 2 7 12
Quohog (43) 4 3 1 0 6 3 3 10
Svecia (16) 4 2 1 1 8 5 3 7
The Lowland Clans (30) 4 1 1 2 3 4 -1 4
Boa Vista 4 0 3 1 2 4 -2 3
Offshore 4 1 0 3 5 8 -3 3
Hokianga 4 1 0 3 4 7 -3 3
West Arridia (69) 4 1 0 3 3 6 -3 3

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Pure Evil (35) 4 4 0 0 8 3 5 12
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 4 2 1 1 7 4 3 7
Dark Outcasts (33) 4 2 1 1 6 5 1 7
Oddslavo (7) 4 1 2 1 5 2 3 5
LordSquall (53) 4 1 2 1 5 3 2 5
Consumer Engineering (90) 4 1 1 2 5 6 -1 4
The Redavic Union 4 1 1 2 2 6 -4 4
Jezland 4 0 0 4 2 11 -9 0

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Ariddia (19) 4 3 1 0 7 0 7 10
Busby (8) 4 3 1 0 8 3 5 10
Squornshelous (25) 4 2 2 0 7 3 4 8
Keyshona (47) 4 2 1 1 4 2 2 7
Anti-Nazis (89) 4 0 4 0 0 0 0 4
Defari (70) 4 1 1 2 4 6 -2 4
Kravoli 4 0 0 4 2 10 -8 0
Rejistania 4 0 0 4 2 10 -8 0

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Tanah Burung (39) 4 3 1 0 6 2 4 10
Oglethorpia (10) 4 2 1 1 9 5 4 7
Snub Nose 38 (20) 4 2 1 1 8 5 3 7
Warnocks Wizards (77) 4 2 1 1 5 6 -1 7
Demonic Beings (31) 4 2 0 2 5 4 1 6
Hell Bovines (65) 4 1 1 2 5 8 -3 4
Evisceratomatoes 4 1 0 3 2 6 -4 3
Wildthings Realm 4 0 1 3 4 8 -4 1

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 4 4 0 0 9 0 9 12
Gilmeecia (17) 4 4 0 0 10 3 7 12
Bullonien (26) 4 2 2 0 9 1 8 8
Giant Zucchini (11) 4 2 1 1 7 3 4 7
Auir II 4 1 1 2 3 6 -3 4
Morawny 4 0 1 3 1 7 -6 1
The Dragonian Empire (55) 4 0 1 3 2 9 -7 1
One Blue Dot 4 0 0 4 1 12 -11 0

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Lemmitania (12) 4 3 1 0 6 2 4 10
Kingsford (28) 4 3 0 1 8 3 5 9
The Weegies (45) 4 2 2 0 6 3 3 8
Terranos 4 2 1 1 4 3 1 7
Dennisov (22) 4 1 1 2 6 6 0 4
Freedom Country 4 1 0 3 4 8 -4 3
Belmorian Scandinavia 4 0 2 2 2 6 -4 2
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 4 0 1 3 4 9 -5 1
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Bedistan
30-10-2003, 23:03
All right, 4-0-0! 8)

Bedistan's submission to the top goal scorers of all time:

Johnny Lewis
played in WC 5-8
33 goals in 52 matches

Then I have one with 16, and nobody else with ten goals yet.
Oglethorpia
31-10-2003, 00:19
I did NOT post an RP in this thread.
Spaam
31-10-2003, 05:40
Hate to tell you this, but there's an error in your score generation....
Check Anti-Nazis.... 4 nil all draws in a row is unhearof.
Liverpool England
31-10-2003, 06:45
Hate to tell you this, but there's an error in your score generation....
Check Anti-Nazis.... 4 nil all draws in a row is unhearof.

I've gotta say - that is wierd.
Liverpool England
31-10-2003, 06:45
Hate to tell you this, but there's an error in your score generation....
Check Anti-Nazis.... 4 nil all draws in a row is unhearof.

I've gotta say - that is wierd.
Ravenspire
31-10-2003, 07:52
Hate to tell you this, but there's an error in your score generation....
Check Anti-Nazis.... 4 nil all draws in a row is unhearof.

I've gotta say - that is wierd.

Yeah, and it gets weirder. But I did check it, several times, and it works out. In trials, I get varying scores for them.

It just happens that every official score I've generated involving them so far has been a scoreless draw. Randomness does strange things, sometimes, and the results overall still fall well within bounds, although a couple of high-ranked teams are decidedly underperforming so far. Haraki in particular has been extremely unfortunate. I expect they'll start winning a few more, though...

As I recall, this is one of the reasons we moved to two matches against each opponent in qualifiers, instead of one. Helps eliminate the extremes in the randomness.
Kaze Progressa
31-10-2003, 09:58
I think Timway are more unfortunate than Haraki...

But it's funny how several of the surprise flops are among the top non-RPing nations. Whether by accident (pure randomness) or design (the RP bonus) this is great stuff to watch.

(I'm not just saying this because I'm the fifth-seeded team in my group, having RPed every match, ahead of the second seeds who I've not really seen RP in this WC... but then, it sure helps :p)
Giant Zucchini
31-10-2003, 10:55
I think Timway are more unfortunate than Haraki...

But it's funny how several of the surprise flops are among the top non-RPing nations. Whether by accident (pure randomness) or design (the RP bonus) this is great stuff to watch.

(I'm not just saying this because I'm the fifth-seeded team in my group, having RPed every match, ahead of the second seeds who I've not really seen RP in this WC... but then, it sure helps :p)

It's not nice punishing someone who can't RP because he's having exams...but I don't mind really.
Dark Outcasts
31-10-2003, 11:14
Also, I've been on holiday, just got back - how was I supposed to RP anything? (same goes for Demonic Beings)
Kaze Progressa
31-10-2003, 12:17
Heh. Damn annoying timings... it's clear the Timway boys have faced problems, shall we say? (TnuI had the same issues for WC8 and didn't qualify)

And the RP bonus is maxed out with just 50% of games RPed so there should be a comeback any time soon. Here's hoping.
Ravenspire
31-10-2003, 15:53
The RP bonus isn't that big of an impact. At most, it's equal to home-field advantage. I believe it's made a difference in the outcome of two games so far over the first six days. (Although it has increased goal difference once or twice without changing the outcome, so I suppose there's some impact there, too.)

Speaking of which, day 5 scores will be up in four to five hours. Day 6 scores have been generated, and will be posted by Europa Brittania some time Saturday, because I'll be out of town. Day 7 scores will be up late -- no sooner than 7 PM US Eastern.
Snub Nose 38
31-10-2003, 16:00
Also, I've been on holiday, just got back - how was I supposed to RP anything? (same goes for Demonic Beings)
Speaking for Group 8 (and I have absolutey no reason to assume that I can speak for Group 8, but what the heck) Demonic Beings are forgiven. Holiday (or as we call it on this side of the puddle, vacation) is, well...is. You can't RP if you ain't there.

But...now that you're back, we can't wait for DB to pitch in.

The Snub Nose 38 Hooligans, due to what can only be called a "Business Trip" (gag, cough, choke, gurgle*crap*gurgle, choke, cough, gag) will be unable to communicate with the rest of the known world on the 12th, 13th and 14th of November. I think we'll put it off on a media strike, or something.
One Red Dot
31-10-2003, 20:28
Sorry for not RPing for the past 4 matchdays as I was quite busy the past few days. However, Ravenspire, there seems to be a MAJOR mistake in the schedule.

On Day 1, I played against Kergarna, which was correct.
On Day 2, I played against Zeronia when I was SUPPOSED to be playing against Soviet Haaregrad.
On Day 3, I played against God Squad, when I was SUPPOSED to be playing against Kaze Progressa.
On Day 4, I played against Kergana (again!) when I was SUPPOSED to be playing against Zeronia.

Group 1
Liverpool England (1)
The Belmore Family (13)
One Red Dot (29)
God Squad (42)
Kaze Progressa (59)
Zeronia (79)
Kegarna
Soviet Haaregrad

Day 1

1 v 5
2 v 6
3 v 7
4 v 8

Day 2

6 v 1
7 v 2
3 v 8
4 v 5

Day 3

1 v 7
2 v 8
5 v 3
6 v 4

Day 4

8 v 1
5 v 2
3 v 6
7 v 4

Liverpool England 2 2 Kaze Progressa
The Belmore Family 1 1 Zeronia
One Red Dot 2 0 Kegarna
God Squad 1 2 Soviet Haaregard

Zeronia 0 2 One Red Dot
God Squad 0 1 Soviet Haaregard
Liverpool England 1 1 Kegarna
Kaze Progressa 2 0 The Belmore Family

One Red Dot 2 0 God Squad
Soviet Haaregard 0 1 Kegarna
The Belmore Family 1 3 Liverpool England
Zeronia 1 1 Kaze Progressa

Kegarna 1 2 One Red Dot
The Belmore Family 2 0 Soviet Haaregard
Liverpool England 2 1 Zeronia
God Squad 1 2 Kaze Progressa
Runaway Moose
31-10-2003, 20:56
I don't know how many goals MOZ had. :( I can't access WC3 anymore.
Ravenspire
31-10-2003, 21:14
Crap, you're right. I missed a comma, and my autosequencer munged group one. The referents are off starting with day two.

There are a couple of options here:

1. Redo day 1 using the altered referents. Which means group 1's sequence doesn't quite match the other groups', but means no future work needs to be done. Scores and tables would still be off until Sunday, as that's the soonest I can generate a new set of scores.

2. Redo days 2-7 using the correct referents. Means the game sequence will match the other groups, but likely a one-day delay in generating group 8.

3. Keep things as-is, adjusting future days on the fly to avoid triplicated games. No retconning, but it's also the option with the most possibilities of something else going wrong in the future.

Those of you in group 1 in particular can discuss which you'd like done. Personally, I'd favor option 1 as the simplest, but I know it's a pain to invalidate a day's worth of RP.

Day 5 scores follow.
Ravenspire
31-10-2003, 21:18
Matchday 5 Results

One Red Dot 1 1 Soviet Haaregard
Liverpool England 2 0 Kaze Progressa
Zeronia 0 2 The Belmore Family
Kegarna 2 2 God Squad

Haraki 2 2 Errinundera
Commerce Heights 1 0 Akbarland
CallMeBernard 1 2 Eauz
SterlingIce 2 1 NASTIC 2

Bedistan 0 1 Halfassedstates
Antaeus Rising 2 2 Nikea
Zinkoland 1 3 Endray-Island
Tranquillitus 2 1 Kramerica

Timway 0 0 Audioslavia
Spaam 4 4 Aquilla
Clearwater 2 2 East Spaam
Sensual Products 1 2 Lanky Dude

Runaway Moose 0 1 Svecia
The Lowland Clans 0 2 Quohog
Boa Vista 1 3 West Arridia
Offshore 2 1 Hokianga

Oddslavo 2 2 Gesamtkuntswerk
Dark Outcasts 1 0 Pure Evil
Consumer Engineering 1 2 LordSquall
The Redavic Union 0 2 Jezland

Busby 1 1 Ariddia
Squornshelous 2 1 Keyshona
Anti-Nazis 0 0 Defari
Rejistania 2 1 Kravoli

Oglethorpia 2 3 Snub Nose 38
Demonic Beings 1 2 Tanah Burung
Warnocks Wizards 0 1 Hell Bovines
Wildthings Realm 1 2 Evisceratomatoes

Giant Zucchini 2 0 Gilmeecia
Bullonien 0 1 TnUI
Auir II 2 0 The Dragonian Empire
One Blue Dot 0 1 Morawny

Lemmitania 0 1 Dennisov
Kingsford 0 2 The Weegies
Belmorian Scandinavia 1 3 1900s Oglethorpia
Terranos 2 1 Freedom Country

Tables Post-Matchday 5
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Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
One Red Dot (29) 5 4 1 0 9 2 7 13
Liverpool England (1) 5 3 2 0 10 5 5 11
Kaze Progressa (59) 5 2 2 1 7 6 1 8
The Belmore Family (13) 5 2 1 2 6 6 0 7
Soviet Haaregrad 5 2 1 2 4 5 -1 7
Kegarna 5 1 2 2 5 7 -2 5
Zeronia (79) 5 0 2 3 3 8 -5 2
God Squad (42) 5 0 1 4 4 9 -5 1

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Eauz (52) 5 4 0 1 8 4 4 12
Commerce Heights (23) 5 3 1 1 7 5 2 10
Akbarland (37) 5 3 0 2 8 4 4 9
Errinundera (15) 5 1 3 1 8 6 2 6
Haraki (2) 5 1 3 1 6 7 -1 6
CallMeBernard 5 1 1 3 5 9 -4 4
SterlingIce 5 1 1 3 4 6 -2 4
NASTIC 2 5 0 3 2 6 11 -5 3

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Bedistan (3) 5 4 0 1 5 1 4 12
Nikea (44) 5 3 2 0 9 5 4 11
Halfassedstates (13) 5 3 1 1 6 3 3 10
Antaeus Rising (26) 5 2 1 2 10 7 3 7
Endray-Island (54) 5 2 0 3 6 7 -1 6
Tranquillitus 5 2 0 3 4 6 -2 6
Kramerica 5 1 1 3 5 10 -5 4
Zinkoland (87) 5 0 1 4 3 9 -6 1

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Spaam (24) 5 3 2 0 7 4 3 11
Lanky Dude 5 3 1 1 9 5 4 10
Aquilla (36) 5 2 2 1 9 6 3 8
East Spaam (74) 5 1 1 2 4 4 0 7
Audioslavia (18) 5 1 2 2 3 4 -1 5
Timway (5) 5 1 2 2 5 7 -2 5
Clearwater 5 1 1 3 4 9 -5 4
Sensual Products 5 0 3 2 2 5 -3 3

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Quohog (43) 5 4 1 0 8 3 5 13
Runaway Moose (6) 5 4 0 1 9 3 6 12
Svecia (16) 5 3 1 1 9 5 4 10
West Arridia (69) 5 2 0 3 6 7 -1 6
Offshore 5 2 0 3 7 9 -2 5
The Lowland Clans (30) 5 1 1 3 3 6 -3 4
Hokianga 5 1 0 4 5 9 -4 3
Boa Vista 5 0 3 2 3 7 -4 3

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Pure Evil (35) 5 4 0 1 8 4 4 12
Dark Outcasts (33) 5 3 1 1 7 5 2 10
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 5 2 2 1 9 6 3 8
LordSquall (53) 5 2 2 1 7 4 3 8
Oddslavo (7) 5 1 3 1 7 4 3 6
Consumer Engineering (90) 5 1 1 3 6 8 -2 4
The Redavic Union 5 1 1 3 2 8 -6 4
Jezland 5 1 0 4 4 11 -7 3

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Ariddia (19) 5 3 2 0 8 1 7 11
Busby (8) 5 3 2 0 9 4 5 11
Squornshelous (25) 5 3 2 0 9 4 5 11
Keyshona (47) 5 2 1 2 5 4 1 7
Anti-Nazis (89) 5 0 5 0 0 0 0 5
Defari (70) 5 1 2 2 4 6 -2 5
Rejistania 5 1 0 4 4 11 -7 3
Kravoli 5 0 0 5 3 12 -9 0

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Tanah Burung (39) 5 4 1 0 8 3 5 13
Snub Nose 38 (20) 5 3 1 1 11 7 4 10
Oglethorpia (10) 5 2 1 2 11 8 3 7
Hell Bovines (65) 5 2 1 2 6 8 -2 7
Warnocks Wizards (77) 5 2 1 2 5 7 -2 7
Demonic Beings (31) 5 2 0 3 6 6 0 6
Evisceratomatoes 5 2 0 3 4 7 -3 6
Wildthings Realm 5 0 1 4 5 10 -5 1

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 5 5 0 0 10 0 10 15
Gilmeecia (17) 5 4 0 1 10 5 5 12
Giant Zucchini (11) 5 3 1 1 9 3 6 10
Bullonien (26) 5 2 2 1 9 2 7 8
Auir II 5 2 1 2 5 6 -1 7
Morawny 5 1 1 3 2 7 -5 4
The Dragonian Empire (55) 5 0 1 4 2 11 -9 1
One Blue Dot 5 0 0 5 1 13 -12 0

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
The Weegies (45) 5 3 2 0 8 3 5 11
Lemmitania (12) 5 3 1 1 6 3 3 10
Terranos 5 3 1 1 6 4 2 10
Kingsford (28) 5 3 0 2 8 5 3 9
Dennisov (22) 5 2 1 2 7 6 1 7
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 5 1 1 3 7 10 -3 4
Freedom Country 5 1 0 4 5 10 -5 3
Belmorian Scandinavia 5 0 2 3 3 9 -6 2
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The Belmore Family
31-10-2003, 21:20
done
El Dorrado
31-10-2003, 21:21
*Throws a dart at thread.* <tag>
Clearwater
31-10-2003, 21:33
Tag. Got to keep up with My scores.
The Belmore Family
31-10-2003, 21:52
I would go for option 1 aswell (due to the fact I had a dreadful draw:))
Snub Nose 38
31-10-2003, 21:56
...apoligizes for an understandable mistake, and offers options to Group 1 to fix it...
Those of you in group 1 in particular can discuss which you'd like done. Personally, I'd favor option 1 as the simplest, but I know it's a pain to invalidate a day's worth of RP.

No need to invalidate a day's worth of RP. We (Snub Nose 38 and Warnocks Wizards) offer to Group 1, should you choose, the perfect excuse for RP not matching match results. "Mediagate". :wink:
Rejistania
31-10-2003, 22:53
Yeah! *get's mad because of joy* First game WON!
Total n Utter Insanity
01-11-2003, 00:21
5 out of 5? I guess becoming Head of the WCC has its bonuses 8) heh
Liverpool England
01-11-2003, 01:25
*LE have played KP twice
*LE are set to face TBF again
*What'll you do?
Bedistan
01-11-2003, 01:39
I'm not in Group 1, so this isn't exactly relevant to me, but I think Option 1 would be best. That way it only changes one matchday's results and we can get on with business as usual.
Squornshelous
01-11-2003, 02:00
wow, Anti-Nazis with another 0-0 tie.
Spaam
01-11-2003, 02:52
Table should be....

[code:1:30861168f6]
Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Spaam (24) 5 3 2 0 7 4 3 11
Lanky Dude 5 3 1 1 9 5 4 10
Aquilla (36) 5 2 2 1 9 6 3 8
East Spaam (74) 5 2 1 2 4 4 0 7
Audioslavia (18) 5 1 2 2 3 4 -1 5
Timway (5) 5 1 2 2 5 7 -2 5
Clearwater 5 1 1 3 4 9 -5 4
Sensual Products 5 0 3 2 3 5 -2 3
[/code:1:30861168f6]
Aquilla
01-11-2003, 03:57
I am in the same group as Spaam. Again. I think I've been with them for the past 3 cups and they've always been the ones who beat me in the second to last game 5-0 and knock me out of a chance of qualifying.
Spaam
01-11-2003, 04:05
I am in the same group as Spaam. Again. I think I've been with them for the past 3 cups and they've always been the ones who beat me in the second to last game 5-0 and knock me out of a chance of qualifying.

Nup, only last Cup. And I seem to remember you also beat us 3-1 the first time we met.... So now my record against you is
[code:1:2167fa11c8]P W D L F A GD
3 1 1 1 10 7 3[/code:1:2167fa11c8]
So don't complain :P
Liverpool England
01-11-2003, 11:54
DP
Liverpool England
01-11-2003, 11:54
So, what is the official decision on Group 1?
Kaze Progressa
01-11-2003, 12:47
Well I would prefer something other than Group 1, but that's only because we drew with LE away :D

Seriously, go with whatever's easiest. And invalidating a day's worth of RP is going to suck, but so are all the alternatives. I knew this was a tough group to get, but this is all we need.
One Red Dot
01-11-2003, 17:33
I'd say option 1 (which is redo day 1) will be the easiest. for all those worrying about any RPing already done, just wipe them out or redo them. Its just one match anyway.
The Belmore Family
01-11-2003, 17:39
FOR OPTION 1:
Kaze Progressa, Liverpool England, One Red Dot, The Belmore Family.

FOR OPTION 2:

FOR OPTION 3:
Snub Nose 38
01-11-2003, 18:46
FOR OPTION 1:
Kaze Progressa, Liverpool England, One Red Dot, The Belmore Family.
FOR OPTION 2:
FOR OPTION 3:
So, that's 4 of the 8 members of Group 1 would like option 1.
*stuggles to remember how to do the appropriate math. then, through a fog, a dim light appears*
That's 50%. So...one more makes a majority, and neither option 2 nor option 3 can get a majority. (*refuses to consider "plurality" - it would hurt too much*)
Group 1
Liverpool England \/
Kaze Progressa \/
The Belmore Family \/
Zeronia
One Red Dot \/
Kegarna
God Squad
Soviet Haaregard
Europa Brittania
01-11-2003, 19:42
Matchday 6 Results

One Red Dot 1 2 Liverpool England
Kaze Progressa 2 1 Soviet Haaregard
The Belmore Family 1 0 God Squad
Zeronia 0 2 Kegarna

Haraki 3 2 Commerce Heights
Akbarland 1 2 Errinundera
Eauz 1 2 NASTIC 2
CallMeBernard 0 2 SterlingIce

Bedistan 2 1 Antaeus Rising
Nikea 0 2 Halfassedstates
Endray-Island 2 0 Kramerica
Zinkoland 1 2 Tranquillitus

Timway 2 2 Spaam
Aquilla 1 0 Audioslavia
East Spaam 2 1 Lanky Dude
Clearwater 0 2 Sensual Products

Runaway Moose 1 2 The Lowland Clans
Quohog 1 1 Svecia
West Arridia 3 2 Hokianga
Boa Vista 3 1 Offshore

Oddslavo 0 0 Dark Outcasts
Pure Evil 0 4 Gesamtkuntswerk
LordSquall 3 0 Jezland
Consumer Engineering 0 1 The Redavic Union

Busby 2 3 Squornshelous
Keyshona 1 2 Ariddia
Defari 0 1 Kravoli
Anti-Nazis 0 0 Rejistania

Oglethorpia 1 0 Demonic Beings
Tanah Burung 0 1 Snub Nose 38
Hell Bovines 1 0 Evisceratomatoes
Warnocks Wizards 2 2 Wildthings Realm

Giant Zucchini 1 0 Bullonien
TnUI 0 1 Gilmeecia
The Dragonian Empire 0 1 Morawny
Auir II 3 2 One Blue Dot

Lemmitania 1 1 Kingsford
The Weegies 0 1 Dennisov
1900s Oglethorpia 1 0 Freedom Country
Belmorian Scandinavia 0 2 Terranos


Tables Post-Matchday 6
[code:1:48fc703496]
Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 6 4 2 0 12 6 6 14
One Red Dot (29) 6 4 1 1 10 4 6 13
Kaze Progressa (59) 6 3 2 1 9 7 2 11
The Belmore Family (13) 6 3 1 2 7 6 1 10
Kegarna 6 2 2 2 7 7 0 8
Soviet Haaregrad 6 2 1 3 5 7 -2 7
Zeronia (79) 6 0 2 4 3 10 -7 2
God Squad (42) 6 0 1 5 4 10 -6 1

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Eauz (52) 6 4 0 2 9 6 3 12
Commerce Heights (23) 6 3 1 2 9 8 1 10
Errinundera (15) 6 2 3 1 10 7 3 9
Akbarland (37) 6 3 0 3 9 6 3 9
Haraki (2) 6 2 3 1 9 9 0 9
SterlingIce 6 2 1 3 6 6 0 7
NASTIC 2 6 1 3 2 8 12 -4 6
CallMeBernard 6 1 1 4 5 11 -6 4

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Bedistan (3) 6 5 0 1 7 2 5 15
Halfassedstates (13) 6 4 1 1 8 3 5 13
Nikea (44) 6 3 2 1 9 7 2 11
Endray-Island (54) 6 3 0 3 8 7 1 9
Tranquillitus 6 3 0 3 6 7 -1 9
Antaeus Rising (26) 6 2 1 3 11 9 2 7
Kramerica 6 1 1 4 5 12 -7 4
Zinkoland (87) 6 0 1 5 4 11 -7 1

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Spaam (24) 6 3 3 0 9 6 3 12
Aquilla (36) 6 3 2 1 10 6 4 11
Lanky Dude 6 3 1 2 10 7 3 10
East Spaam (74) 6 2 1 2 6 5 1 10
Sensual Products 6 1 3 2 4 5 -1 6
Timway (5) 6 1 3 2 7 9 -2 6
Audioslavia (18) 6 1 2 3 3 5 -2 5
Clearwater 6 1 1 4 4 11 -7 4

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Quohog (43) 6 4 2 0 9 4 5 14
Runaway Moose (6) 6 4 0 2 10 5 5 12
Svecia (16) 6 3 2 1 10 6 4 11
West Arridia (69) 6 3 0 3 9 9 0 9
The Lowland Clans (30) 6 2 1 3 5 7 -2 7
Boa Vista 6 1 3 2 6 8 -2 6
Offshore 6 2 0 4 8 12 -4 6
Hokianga 6 1 0 5 7 12 -5 3

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Pure Evil (35) 6 4 0 2 8 8 0 12
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 6 3 2 1 13 6 7 11
LordSquall (53) 6 3 2 1 10 4 6 11
Dark Outcasts (33) 6 3 2 1 7 5 2 11
Oddslavo (7) 6 1 4 1 7 4 3 7
The Redavic Union 6 2 1 3 3 8 -5 7
Consumer Engineering (90) 6 1 1 4 6 9 -3 4
Jezland 6 1 0 5 4 14 -10 3

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Ariddia (19) 6 4 2 0 10 2 8 14
Squornshelous (25) 6 4 2 0 12 6 6 14
Busby (8) 6 3 2 1 11 7 4 11
Keyshona (47) 6 2 1 3 6 6 0 7
Anti-Nazis (89) 6 0 6 0 0 0 0 6
Defari (70) 6 1 2 3 4 7 -3 5
Rejistania 6 1 1 4 4 11 -7 4
Kravoli 6 1 0 5 4 12 -8 3

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Snub Nose 38 (20) 6 4 1 1 12 7 5 13
Tanah Burung (39) 6 4 1 1 8 4 4 13
Oglethorpia (10) 6 3 1 2 12 8 4 10
Hell Bovines (65) 6 3 1 2 7 8 -1 10
Warnocks Wizards (77) 6 2 2 2 7 9 -2 8
Demonic Beings (31) 6 2 0 4 6 7 -1 6
Evisceratomatoes 6 2 0 4 4 8 -4 6
Wildthings Realm 6 0 2 4 7 12 -5 2

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 6 5 0 1 10 1 9 15
Gilmeecia (17) 6 5 0 1 11 5 6 15
Giant Zucchini (11) 6 4 1 1 10 3 7 13
Auir II 6 3 1 2 8 8 0 10
Bullonien (26) 6 2 2 2 9 3 6 8
Morawny 6 2 1 3 3 7 -4 7
The Dragonian Empire (55) 6 0 1 5 2 12 -10 1
One Blue Dot 6 0 0 6 3 16 -13 0

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Terranos 6 4 1 1 8 4 4 13
The Weegies (45) 6 3 2 1 8 4 4 11
Lemmitania (12) 6 3 2 1 7 4 3 11
Kingsford (28) 6 3 1 2 9 6 3 10
Dennisov (22) 6 3 1 2 8 6 2 10
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 6 2 1 3 8 10 -2 7
Freedom Country 6 1 0 5 5 11 -6 3
Belmorian Scandinavia 6 0 2 4 3 11 -8 2
[/code:1:48fc703496]
Bedistan
01-11-2003, 20:07
Tables Post-Matchday 6
[code:1:73bfedcd4b]Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Anti-Nazis (89) 6 0 6 0 0 0 0 6[/code:1:73bfedcd4b]

Good freakin' gosh! I see they have an excellent goalkeeper, but their offense sucks the big one. :P
Total n Utter Insanity
01-11-2003, 20:13
I so don't trust that.
Snub Nose 38
01-11-2003, 20:17
Blast! Forgot which thread I was in. Post moved to WC9 thread.
Total n Utter Insanity
01-11-2003, 20:33
Aquilla 1 0 Audioslavia
[code:1:9810d2e2b1]
Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Spaam (24) 6 3 3 0 9 6 3 12
Aquilla (36) 6 3 2 1 10 6 4 11
Lanky Dude 6 3 1 2 10 7 3 10
East Spaam (74) 6 2 1 2 6 5 1 10
Sensual Products 6 1 3 2 4 5 -1 6
Timway (5) 6 1 3 2 7 9 -2 6
Audioslavia (18) 6 1 2 3 3 5 -2 5
Clearwater 6 1 1 4 4 11 -7 4
[/code:1:9810d2e2b1]


While I remember. Power? They couldn't power their way out of a paper bag!
Ravenspire
01-11-2003, 23:38
FOR OPTION 1:
Kaze Progressa, Liverpool England, One Red Dot, The Belmore Family.
FOR OPTION 2:
FOR OPTION 3:
So, that's 4 of the 8 members of Group 1 would like option 1.

Right. Well, seeing that no other option could get more votes (it'd be equal at best), and that the four who voted are also the four who RP... I'm going to go with this. I'll rerun the scores and post the corrected table late tonight (or maybe early tomorrow -- it might be after midnight), when I get back home. Thanks, and I'm really sorry about this. Can't believe I messed up that badly. ^_^;
Bedistan
01-11-2003, 23:40
FOR OPTION 1:
Kaze Progressa, Liverpool England, One Red Dot, The Belmore Family.
FOR OPTION 2:
FOR OPTION 3:
So, that's 4 of the 8 members of Group 1 would like option 1.

Right. Well, seeing that no other option could get more votes (it'd be equal at best), and that the four who voted are also the four who RP... I'm going to go with this. I'll rerun the scores and post the corrected table late tonight (or maybe early tomorrow -- it might be after midnight), when I get back home. Thanks, and I'm really sorry about this. Can't believe I messed up that badly. ^_^;

Heh, don't worry about it. Every World Cup has a minor glitch of some sort, and this was yours. It should be nice and smooth from here on out. :)
Kingsford
02-11-2003, 00:18
EDIT:
The Weegies
02-11-2003, 00:24
I'm still trying to work out how Terranos is top of the league despite not RPing and being unranked.

Damn you Random Number Gods!
Snub Nose 38
02-11-2003, 00:27
I'm still trying to work out how Terranos is top of the league despite not RPing and being unranked.

Damn you Random Number Gods!
Wanna borrow Margaret? :wink:

-----------------------------------
Kingsford - this is the WC9 scores and tables thread.
This is the WC9 RP Thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86242&start=240)
I posted one here, too. Hadda move it. :oops:
The Weegies
02-11-2003, 00:30
Well, I wouldn't want to impose...
Total n Utter Insanity
02-11-2003, 00:36
Every World Cup has a minor glitch of some sort

Lies!!!! World Cup 3 ran perfectly. I know because I have ordered all records prior to World Cup 6 destroyed...err forget I said that.
Bedistan
02-11-2003, 00:47
Every World Cup has a minor glitch of some sort

Lies!!!! World Cup 3 ran perfectly. I know because I have ordered all records prior to World Cup 6 destroyed...err forget I said that.

OK, OK, clarification -- every one since I've been here. With the possible exception of WC7...
Spaam
02-11-2003, 01:01
Tables Post-Matchday 6
[code:1:0b2e672da2]Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Anti-Nazis (89) 6 0 6 0 0 0 0 6[/code:1:0b2e672da2]

Good freakin' gosh! I see they have an excellent goalkeeper, but their offense sucks the big one. :P

Nah, there is some errors on the spreadsheet. I can find them if R/EB wants to send it to me....
Spaam
02-11-2003, 01:07
Table should be....

[code:1:9e524c46fa]
Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Spaam (24) 6 3 3 0 9 6 3 12
Aquilla (36) 6 3 2 1 10 6 4 11
Lanky Dude 6 3 1 2 10 7 3 10
East Spaam (74) 6 3 1 2 6 5 1 10
Sensual Products 6 1 3 2 5 5 0 6
Timway (5) 6 1 3 2 7 9 -2 6
Audioslavia (18) 6 1 2 3 3 5 -2 5
Clearwater 6 1 1 4 4 11 -7 4
[/code:1:9e524c46fa]
Spaam
02-11-2003, 01:10
Every World Cup has a minor glitch of some sort

Lies!!!! World Cup 3 ran perfectly. I know because I have ordered all records prior to World Cup 6 destroyed...err forget I said that.

Nup, there was a MAJOR glitch there.... Zinkoland beat me, which
meant I couldn't qualify - the only time I've not qualified. Zinkoland
should've drawn if anything, seeing as they were bloody bottom of
the table :P
Kingsford
02-11-2003, 04:37
I'm still trying to work out how Terranos is top of the league despite not RPing and being unranked.

Damn you Random Number Gods!
Wanna borrow Margaret? :wink:

-----------------------------------
Kingsford - this is the WC9 scores and tables thread.
This is the WC9 RP Thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86242&start=240)
I posted one here, too. Hadda move it. :oops:

Darnit! Lying to my simple Ohio mind that this was the RP thread. TnUI must die!


OOC: Wow, I could've sworn I posted in the other topic. Crap. I apologize to anyone who had to suffer through my attempt at satire while looking for their score.
Ravenspire
02-11-2003, 06:07
Group 1, Matchday 1, Take 2

One Red Dot 0 0 The Belmore Family
Soviet Haaregard 1 0 Zeronia
Liverpool England 3 0 God Squad
Kaze Progressa 2 0 Kegarna

Group 1 Table, Post-Matchday 6, Revised
[code:1:80303ca325]
Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 6 5 1 0 13 4 9 16
Kaze Progressa (59) 6 4 1 1 9 5 4 13
One Red Dot (29) 6 3 2 1 8 4 4 11
The Belmore Family (13) 6 3 1 2 6 5 1 10
Kegarna 6 2 2 2 7 7 0 8
Soviet Haaregrad 6 2 1 3 4 6 -2 7
God Squad (42) 6 0 1 5 3 11 -8 1
Zeronia (79) 6 0 1 5 2 10 -8 1
[/code:1:80303ca325]

The numbering for the group for scheduling purposes is rearranged as follows:

1. One Red Dot
2. Soviet Haaregrad
3. Liverpool England
4. Kaze Progressa
5. The Belmore Family
6. Zeronia
7. God Squad
8. Kegarna
Ravenspire
03-11-2003, 00:19
Matchday 7 Results
Kaze Progressa 2 3 One Red Dot
Soviet Haaregard 0 2 Liverpool England
Kegarna 0 3 The Belmore Family
God Squad 1 0 Zeronia

Akbarland 1 4 Haraki
Errinundera 2 1 Commerce Heights
SterlingIce 1 2 Eauz
NASTIC 2 3 3 CallMeBernard

Nikea 2 2 Bedistan
Halfassedstates 1 0 Antaeus Rising
Tranquillitus 1 3 Endray-Island
Kramerica 0 2 Zinkoland

Aquilla 0 1 Timway
Audioslavia 2 0 Spaam
Sensual Products 1 3 East Spaam
Lanky Dude 2 1 Clearwater

Quohog 2 2 Runaway Moose
Svecia 1 0 The Lowland Clans
Offshore 1 3 West Arridia
Hokianga 0 2 Boa Vista

Pure Evil 2 3 Oddslavo
Gesamtkuntswerk 1 2 Dark Outcasts
The Redavic Union 3 2 LordSquall
Jezland 1 1 Consumer Engineering

Keyshona 2 0 Busby
Ariddia 1 1 Squornshelous
Rejistania 2 1 Defari
Kravoli 0 1 Anti-Nazis

Tanah Burung 2 4 Oglethorpia
Snub Nose 38 2 1 Demonic Beings
Wildthings Realm 1 2 Hell Bovines
Evisceratomatoes 0 1 Warnocks Wizards

TnUI 2 2 Giant Zucchini
Gilmeecia 1 0 Bullonien
One Blue Dot 1 3 The Dragonian Empire
Morawny 0 2 Auir II

The Weegies 2 2 Lemmitania
Dennisov 1 0 Kingsford
Terranos 1 3 1900s Oglethorpia
Freedom Country 0 2 Belmorian Scandinavia


Tables Post-Matchday 7
[code:1:c0cddcc7d2]
Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 7 6 1 0 15 4 11 19
One Red Dot (29) 7 4 2 1 11 6 5 14
The Belmore Family (13) 7 4 1 2 9 5 4 13
Kaze Progressa (59) 7 4 1 2 11 8 3 13
Kegarna 7 2 2 3 7 10 -3 8
Soviet Haaregrad 7 2 1 4 4 8 -4 7
God Squad (42) 7 1 1 5 4 11 -7 4
Zeronia (79) 7 0 1 6 2 11 -9 1

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Eauz (52) 7 5 0 2 11 7 4 15
Errinundera (15) 7 3 3 1 12 8 4 12
Haraki (2) 7 3 3 1 13 10 3 12
Commerce Heights (23) 7 3 1 3 10 10 0 10
Akbarland (37) 7 3 0 4 10 10 0 9
SterlingIce 7 2 1 4 7 8 -1 7
NASTIC 2 7 1 4 2 11 15 -4 7
CallMeBernard 7 1 2 4 8 14 -6 5

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Halfassedstates (13) 7 5 1 1 9 3 6 16
Bedistan (3) 7 5 1 1 9 4 5 16
Endray-Island (54) 7 4 0 3 11 8 3 12
Nikea (44) 7 3 3 1 11 9 2 12
Tranquillitus 7 3 0 4 7 10 -3 9
Antaeus Rising (26) 7 2 1 4 11 10 1 7
Zinkoland (87) 7 1 1 5 6 11 -5 4
Kramerica 7 1 1 5 5 14 -9 4

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Lanky Dude 7 4 1 2 12 8 4 13
East Spaam (74) 7 4 1 2 9 6 3 13
Spaam (24) 7 3 3 1 9 8 1 12
Aquilla (36) 7 3 2 2 10 7 3 11
Timway (5) 7 2 3 2 8 9 -1 9
Audioslavia (18) 7 2 2 3 5 5 0 8
Sensual Products 7 1 3 3 5 8 -3 6
Clearwater 7 1 1 5 5 13 -8 4

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Quohog (43) 7 4 3 0 11 6 5 15
Svecia (16) 7 4 2 1 11 6 5 14
Runaway Moose (6) 7 4 1 2 12 7 5 13
West Arridia (69) 7 4 0 3 12 10 2 12
Boa Vista 7 2 3 2 8 8 0 9
The Lowland Clans (30) 7 2 1 4 5 8 -3 7
Offshore 7 2 0 5 9 15 -6 6
Hokianga 7 1 0 6 7 14 -7 3

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Dark Outcasts (33) 7 4 2 1 9 6 3 14
Pure Evil (35) 7 4 0 3 10 11 -1 12
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 7 3 2 2 14 8 6 11
LordSquall (53) 7 3 2 2 12 7 5 11
Oddslavo (7) 7 2 4 1 10 6 4 10
The Redavic Union 7 3 1 3 6 10 -4 10
Consumer Engineering (90) 7 1 2 4 7 10 -3 5
Jezland 7 1 1 5 5 15 -10 4

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Ariddia (19) 7 4 3 0 11 3 8 15
Squornshelous (25) 7 4 3 0 13 7 6 15
Busby (8) 7 3 2 2 11 9 2 11
Keyshona (47) 7 3 1 3 8 6 2 10
Anti-Nazis (89) 7 1 6 0 1 0 1 9
Rejistania 7 2 1 4 6 12 -6 7
Defari (70) 7 1 2 4 5 9 -4 5
Kravoli 7 1 0 6 4 13 -9 3

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Snub Nose 38 (20) 7 5 1 1 14 8 6 16
Oglethorpia (10) 7 4 1 2 16 10 6 13
Tanah Burung (39) 7 4 1 2 10 8 2 13
Hell Bovines (65) 7 4 1 2 9 9 0 13
Warnocks Wizards (77) 7 3 2 2 8 9 -1 11
Demonic Beings (31) 7 2 0 5 7 9 -2 6
Evisceratomatoes 7 2 0 5 4 9 -5 6
Wildthings Realm 7 0 2 5 8 14 -6 2

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Gilmeecia (17) 7 6 0 1 12 5 7 18
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 7 5 1 1 12 3 9 16
Giant Zucchini (11) 7 4 2 1 12 5 7 14
Auir II 7 4 1 2 10 8 2 13
Bullonien (26) 7 2 2 3 9 4 5 8
Morawny 7 2 1 4 3 9 -6 7
The Dragonian Empire (55) 7 1 1 5 5 13 -8 4
One Blue Dot 7 0 0 7 4 19 -15 0

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Dennisov (22) 7 4 1 2 9 6 3 13
Terranos 7 4 1 2 9 7 2 13
The Weegies (45) 7 3 3 1 10 6 4 12
Lemmitania (12) 7 3 3 1 9 6 3 12
Kingsford (28) 7 3 1 3 9 7 2 10
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 7 3 1 3 11 11 0 10
Belmorian Scandinavia 7 1 2 4 5 11 -6 5
Freedom Country 7 1 0 6 5 13 -8 3
[/code:1:c0cddcc7d2]
The Weegies
03-11-2003, 03:04
Kravoli 0 1 Anti-Nazis


My god. There's actually been a goal in an Anti-Nazis match.
Total n Utter Insanity
03-11-2003, 03:09
[code:1:35902df241]
Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 7 6 1 0 15 4 11 19
[/code:1:35902df241]

Anyone else remember LE complaining?
Liverpool England
03-11-2003, 03:12
[code:1:8cec539a5a]
Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 7 6 1 0 15 4 11 19
[/code:1:8cec539a5a]

Anyone else remember LE complaining?

haha, very funny Total n Utter Idiot! </sarcasm>

Very well done to ensure no more glitches. But you seem to be doing all the workl, R... what about EB!?
Spaam
03-11-2003, 04:44
Ok, hands up who thinks that Newbies that don't RP at ALL in the qualifiers should be disqualified?
Oglethorpia
03-11-2003, 04:54
Ok, hands up who thinks that Newbies that don't RP at ALL in the qualifiers should be disqualified?

ME!

Let's boot 'em unless they post on their behalf with a DAMN GOOD reason.
Spaam
03-11-2003, 04:56
Ok, hands up who thinks that Newbies that don't RP at ALL in the qualifiers should be disqualified?

ME!

Let's boot 'em unless they post on their behalf with a DAMN GOOD reason.

Well, TnUI agrees as well, so its unanimous :D WOOHOO!
Oglethorpia
03-11-2003, 05:18
Yeeeaaah! We'll beat back the non-RPers with sticks!
Ravenspire
03-11-2003, 07:40
Very well done to ensure no more glitches. But you seem to be doing all the workl, R... what about EB!?

EB's done quite a bit. You'll see more of his work once qualifiers are complete, and there's more to do on the artistic side of things.
Belmorian Scandinavia
03-11-2003, 07:42
Ok, hands up who thinks that Newbies that don't RP at ALL in the qualifiers should be disqualified?
what if they don't want to RP *Shock**Shock*Horror*&Horror* this will merly fill up the RP thread with mindless drivel.
Rejistania
03-11-2003, 07:54
Kravoli 0 1 Anti-Nazis


My god. There's actually been a goal in an Anti-Nazis match.

I guess, the shamans magic finally worked!

BTW: I think, not RPing at all is a reason for not qualifying (at least if they have no reason for doing so).
Spaam
03-11-2003, 08:13
Ok, hands up who thinks that Newbies that don't RP at ALL in the qualifiers should be disqualified?
what if they don't want to RP *Shock**Shock*Horror*&Horror* this will merly fill up the RP thread with mindless drivel.

If they don't want to RP then they can get lost because this is the point of the World Cup.
Kaze Progressa
03-11-2003, 09:26
Kaze Progressa put their weight behind this proposal.

Idea for WC10 this: each team plays each other ONCE and at the halfway stage, all the teams that haven't RPed get dumped out and all the remaining teams play each other once. Results against the dumped teams still count in the final table.

This will not only ensure 32 RPing nations in the WC finals, but reduce the work of the hosts.
Total n Utter Insanity
03-11-2003, 13:57
Kaze Progressa put their weight behind this proposal.

Idea for WC10 this: each team plays each other ONCE and at the halfway stage, all the teams that haven't RPed get dumped out and all the remaining teams play each other once. Results against the dumped teams still count in the final table.

This will not only ensure 32 RPing nations in the WC finals, but reduce the work of the hosts.

They won't have any work once the ubersheet is finished.
Dark Outcasts
03-11-2003, 15:47
ONe thing (and I'm not on either side but this should be taken into consideration), the pure amount of nayions in the qualifying stages means, amoungst others, loads of matches, loads of posts, and loads of arguments (if the plan goes ahead some nation might argue over who will RP a certain match).

I believe that RPing in the qualifying stages should be optional and left to the disgresion of those involved however RPing in stages afterwards I think should be enforced.

Yes I know, as of yet I haven't RPed anything however being on holiday and also finding time to RP a match before yet another result has come in is hard to say the least. I do try and if qualify will deffinately RP then.

Sorry for the major rant *hits self over head tp knowck some sense in but only succeeds in knowcking some out* :lol:
Snub Nose 38
03-11-2003, 16:38
Just a couple of points - then SN38 will shut up and follow whatever rules are established.
1. BEFORE we adopt the "Dump 'em if they don't RP" law, I think it should be established exactly what does / does not qualify as a good excuse not to RP. A few that I think should be acceptable are:
Not being anywhere near a PC;
PC breakdowns;
RL emergencies of any kind;
(this one is for the younger set) Parental Intervention of some kind;
(this one is for the young adults) Exams;
RL disasters (for example, the blackout in North America that disrupted stuff when Lemmy was handling his first WC as "Guest Host")
I'm sure there are others.
2. EVEN with # 1, above, there should be a committee (WCC?) that determines by vote who gets dumped - because there are going to be circumstances we don't cover in number 1, etc.
3. Establish two things about the RP requirement:
How many (percent?) matches must be RPed to NOT get dumped?
What constitutes an acceptable RP? (length? content? both? humor that doesn't meet any of the other criteria (I need this one)?...etc.
4. Will there be "warnings" issued to non-RPers (RP or get dumped)? By who? In the thread, or by TG?

I will now dodder off
*dodders off with walker, attempting not to drool too much* :wink:
Spaam
03-11-2003, 17:57
At the moment, we are only considering banning newbies that don't
RP. Teams that are established that haven't RP'ed are not included,
like, oh, I dunno, Erri. Noone would in their right mind ban Erri.

Also, Lanky Dude's post is NOT an RP, and that was explicitly
mentioned in the first post of this thread. So at the moment, Lanky
Dude is well on his way to being baleeted, along with Terranos and
Auir II.
Tanah Burung
03-11-2003, 17:57
I think this discussion belongs in the WC10 sign-up thread. But a couple of points:

- even with an uber-sheet, hosts will still have plenty of work (telegramming results etc) as well as having to RP the hosting, of course.

- maybe a less harsh thing would be to have the sign-up threads say right at the beginning: "this is a role-play." There are plenty of other sports -- and even football -- competitions on this forum where role-play is not necessary. Svecia is running a Cup for their region, for instance.

Would you join a war that you had no plans to role-play? So, why join the World Cup if you have no plans to role-play it? Even more, why enter a puppet in a role-play when you are already not role-playing your main nation to any real extent? I mean, what's the point?

Yeah, there are plenty of good excuses not to report on every match. Dark Outcasts, for instance, has already established a record as someone who role-plays, even if not so much during this Cup for perfectly good reasons. Quohog could be another example, doing great RP in some Cups and then none in others, and i don't think anyone would propose to boot either of these countries.
Belmorian Scandinavia
03-11-2003, 18:57
Belmorian Scandinavia
03-11-2003, 19:02
At the moment, we are only considering banning newbies that don't
RP. Teams that are established that haven't RP'ed are not included,
like, oh, I dunno, Erri. Noone would in their right mind ban Erri.

Also, Lanky Dude's post is NOT an RP, and that was explicitly
mentioned in the first post of this thread. So at the moment, Lanky
Dude is well on his way to being baleeted, along with Terranos and
Auir II.
*Looks up LDs post*
Stupid idiot. I told him to write exactly what I said. I promise you it will be better next time even if I have to write it myself. Please keep him in. I am trying to teach him the game but he is so ******* stupid. It'll be better by 14.00 GMT Tomorrow.
Rejistania
03-11-2003, 19:12
Would you join a war that you had no plans to role-play? So, why join the World Cup if you have no plans to role-play it? Even more, why enter a puppet in a role-play when you are already not role-playing your main nation to any real extent? I mean, what's the point?

I joined my first WCs (ok, it was field hockey and not soccer) because I wanted to learn to RP sport events. I think, till now I done not excactly *that* bad there and here.
Tanah Burung
03-11-2003, 19:15
Fair enough. You've done wonderfully well.
Ravenspire
03-11-2003, 19:28
I joined my first WCs (ok, it was field hockey and not soccer) because I wanted to learn to RP sport events. I think, till now I done not excactly *that* bad there and here.

You've done just fine. 8)

There are a fair number of people who sign up and never again make a post, though, and those seem to be the ones this proposal is aimed toward. Fair enough, as long as the RP requirement is made explicit somewhere.

I've been pretty happy with the RP for this cup so far. It would be nice to get more newbies involved, but we're running at about 2 pages per matchday, so about... 40 posts per 40 matches? Of course, that's because some people do multiple posts on a single game, and some games are RPed by both sides, and some are OOC posts, but still, not too bad. We're never going to have 100% RP, because of real life if nothing else, but at least most of what we do have is quality.

Anyway, day 8 scores will be posted in 2-3 hours.
Rejistania
03-11-2003, 19:31
Thanks for the compliments.

Ravenspire, all I wanted to say is: Give a 3-posts newb a chance, I was one when I first signed up!
Total n Utter Insanity
03-11-2003, 19:35
I'll probably be the one who lays down the rules. Mainly it's Spaams idea, all he has to do is refine it a little.
The Belmore Family
03-11-2003, 20:51
Idea:

Give any nation wishing to participate in the WC a chance. If they do not RP after the 1st 1/2 of qualfying send them a telegram asking them to RP. Any RP will do even of it is just "2 great goals scored by Joe Bloggs secured us a 2-0 win over neverwhere...". In the second cup, they would however be expected to RP matches properley.

Idea 2:
The senate, the senate should be 6 representatives that have participated in more than 6 WC that a good RPers that are willing to do certain jobs to help the committee such as judge expolsion. The people in this should be decided by the WCC and you shoulkd serve 2 weeks to 1 month terms.

Idea 3:
To save the backlog on the forum, you could create a new forum (*Cough* *Cough* http://www.abelmore.com/phpBB2/index.php *Cough*) to deal with questions to the committees and deal with tecvhnical matters eg/ problems with the World Cup. All people in the World Cup would be expected to join that forum. Did I mention that I happen to have a spare phpBB forum?
Spaam
03-11-2003, 22:21
FIrstly, LD is one of your friends, aye TBF? Then it seems the only
reason they wrote ANYTHING at all was because you told them to.
They have a grand total of 4 posts, and frankly, they seem to have
no interest whatsoever in the World Cup short of you pushing them
in there. Futhermore, the two posts that they made recently were
INCREDIBLY annoying. Now, there are a few people who wouldn't
mind seeing them banned, so I am going to make this formal.

I move that Terranos, Lanky Dude, and Auir II be banned.

Now, for the refinement.

A team that does not post in the RP thread during the Qualifying
round, or makes posts that contain a total of less than 100 words,
and have not competed in a World Cup before the current one, be
automatically banned.

Now for your.... ideas.... TBF.

1. No.

2. Basically, the WCC. We do need to formalise the structure of it.
Should we have a limit on the number of people on it? Currently
there are 9 on it, and 2 of those may not be fully accepted due to
mitigating circumstances ( :oops: ). The President of the WCC could
probably decide this. However, for your proposal, no.

3. We have NationStates, and that is what its here for. If there is
a problem with backlog, we can create another thread. In short,
no.
Ravenspire
03-11-2003, 23:13
Bloody forums...
Ravenspire
03-11-2003, 23:13
Matchday 8 Results

The Belmore Family 2 2 One Red Dot
Zeronia 2 0 Soviet Haaregard
God Squad 1 3 Liverpool England
Kegarna 0 2 Kaze Progressa

Eauz 0 3 Haraki
CallMeBernard 1 0 Errinundera
NASTIC 2 1 2 Commerce Heights
SterlingIce 2 0 Akbarland

Endray-Island 2 3 Bedistan
Zinkoland 0 2 Halfassedstates
Kramerica 0 3 Antaeus Rising
Tranquillitus 0 1 Nikea

East Spaam 1 4 Timway
Clearwater 1 3 Audioslavia
Lanky Dude 0 0 Spaam
Sensual Products 0 3 Aquilla

West Arridia 2 3 Runaway Moose
Boa Vista 1 0 Svecia
Hokianga 1 3 The Lowland Clans
Offshore 0 2 Quohog

LordSquall 0 1 Oddslavo
Consumer Engineering 0 2 Gesamtkuntswerk
Jezland 1 1 Dark Outcasts
The Redavic Union 1 1 Pure Evil

Defari 0 1 Busby
Anti-Nazis 0 1 Ariddia
Kravoli 0 6 Squornshelous
Rejistania 1 0 Keyshona

Hell Bovines 0 3 Oglethorpia
Warnocks Wizards 1 0 Snub Nose 38
Evisceratomatoes 0 2 Demonic Beings
Wildthings Realm 0 2 Tanah Burung

The Dragonian Empire 2 3 Giant Zucchini
Auir II 0 2 Gilmeecia
Morawny 0 3 Bullonien
One Blue Dot 0 1 TnUI

1900s Oglethorpia 2 3 Lemmitania
Belmorian Scandinavia 0 2 Dennisov
Freedom Country 0 3 Kingsford
Terranos 1 1 The Weegies


Tables Post-Matchday 8
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Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 8 7 1 0 18 5 13 22
Kaze Progressa (59) 8 5 1 2 13 8 5 16
One Red Dot (29) 8 4 3 1 13 8 5 15
The Belmore Family (13) 8 4 2 2 11 7 4 14
Kegarna 8 2 2 4 7 12 -5 8
Soviet Haaregrad 8 2 1 5 4 10 -6 7
Zeronia (79) 8 1 1 6 4 11 -7 4
God Squad (42) 8 1 1 6 5 14 -9 4

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Haraki (2) 8 4 3 1 16 10 6 15
Eauz (52) 8 5 0 3 11 10 1 15
Commerce Heights (23) 8 4 1 3 12 11 1 13
Errinundera (15) 8 3 3 2 12 9 3 12
SterlingIce 8 3 1 4 9 9 0 10
Akbarland (37) 8 3 0 5 11 12 -1 9
CallMeBernard 8 2 2 4 9 14 -5 8
NASTIC 2 8 1 4 3 12 17 -5 7

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Halfassedstates (13) 8 6 1 1 11 3 8 19
Bedistan (3) 8 6 1 1 12 6 6 19
Nikea (44) 8 4 3 1 12 9 3 15
Endray-Island (54) 8 4 0 4 13 11 2 12
Antaeus Rising (26) 8 3 1 4 14 10 4 10
Tranquillitus 8 3 0 5 7 11 -4 9
Zinkoland (87) 8 1 1 6 6 13 -7 4
Kramerica 8 1 1 6 5 17 -12 4

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aquilla (36) 8 4 2 2 13 7 6 14
Lanky Dude 8 4 2 2 12 8 4 14
Spaam (24) 8 3 4 1 9 8 1 13
East Spaam (74) 8 4 1 3 10 10 0 13
Timway (5) 8 3 3 2 12 10 2 12
Audioslavia (18) 8 3 2 3 8 6 2 11
Sensual Products 8 1 3 4 5 11 -6 6
Clearwater 8 1 1 6 6 16 -10 4

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Quohog (43) 8 5 3 0 13 6 7 18
Runaway Moose (6) 8 5 1 2 15 9 6 16
Svecia (16) 8 4 2 2 11 7 4 14
West Arridia (69) 8 4 0 4 14 13 1 12
Boa Vista 8 3 3 2 9 8 1 12
The Lowland Clans (30) 8 3 1 4 8 9 -1 10
Offshore 8 2 0 6 9 17 -8 6
Hokianga 8 1 0 7 8 17 -9 3

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Dark Outcasts (33) 8 4 3 1 10 7 3 15
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 8 4 2 2 16 8 8 14
Oddslavo (7) 8 3 4 1 11 6 5 13
Pure Evil (35) 8 4 1 3 11 12 -1 13
LordSquall (53) 8 3 2 3 12 8 4 11
The Redavic Union 8 3 2 3 7 11 -4 11
Consumer Engineering (90) 8 1 2 5 7 12 -5 5
Jezland 8 1 2 5 6 16 -10 5

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Squornshelous (25) 8 5 3 0 19 7 12 18
Ariddia (19) 8 5 3 0 12 3 9 18
Busby (8) 8 4 2 2 12 9 3 14
Keyshona (47) 8 3 1 4 8 7 1 10
Rejistania 8 3 1 4 7 12 -5 10
Anti-Nazis (89) 8 1 6 1 1 1 0 9
Defari (70) 8 1 2 5 5 10 -5 5
Kravoli 8 1 0 7 4 19 -15 3

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Oglethorpia (10) 8 5 1 2 19 10 9 16
Snub Nose 38 (20) 8 5 1 2 14 9 5 16
Tanah Burung (39) 8 5 1 2 12 8 4 16
Warnocks Wizards (77) 8 4 2 2 9 9 0 14
Hell Bovines (65) 8 4 1 3 9 12 -3 13
Demonic Beings (31) 8 3 0 5 9 9 0 9
Evisceratomatoes 8 2 0 6 4 11 -7 6
Wildthings Realm 8 0 2 6 8 16 -8 2

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Gilmeecia (17) 8 7 0 1 14 5 9 21
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 8 6 1 1 13 3 10 19
Giant Zucchini (11) 8 5 2 1 15 7 8 17
Auir II 8 4 1 3 10 10 0 13
Bullonien (26) 8 2 2 4 12 4 8 11
Morawny 8 2 1 5 3 12 -9 7
The Dragonian Empire (55) 8 1 1 6 7 16 -9 4
One Blue Dot 8 0 0 8 4 20 -16 0

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Dennisov (22) 8 5 1 2 11 6 5 16
Lemmitania (12) 8 4 3 1 12 8 4 15
Terranos 8 4 2 2 10 8 2 14
Kingsford (28) 8 4 1 3 12 7 5 13
The Weegies (45) 8 3 4 1 11 7 4 13
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 8 3 1 4 13 14 -1 10
Belmorian Scandinavia 8 1 2 5 5 13 -8 5
Freedom Country 8 1 0 7 5 16 -11 3
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Kaze Progressa
04-11-2003, 18:12
Matchday 8 Results

Anti-Nazis 0 1 Ariddia


The Iron Curtain has been breached at last... :D

We knew the Arridians had a great offense after their WC7 run, but this has to be their greatest feat to date. :D
Halfassedstates
04-11-2003, 18:31
I wouldn't like to see the Anti-Nazis offensive record, but the defence should be amazing 1 in 8 = 0.125 goals against per game - holy guacamole batman! as someone may have said at one point in the past!
Kaze Progressa
04-11-2003, 18:48
I hope nobody starts thinking that all defenders are Nazis and all strikers are Communists. :D

Also, I think Timway, God Squad, Demonic Beings and Bullonien are teh top 'unlucky sides' atm... the top 'lucky side' has to be Lanky Dude or Terranos.
Ravenspire
04-11-2003, 19:47
God Squad is definitely underperforming this time around. Most of the other high-ranked sides who'd been unlucky have mounted something of a comeback. Akbarland, Antaeus Rising, Timway, Audioslavia, The Lowland Clans, Demonic Beings, Bullonien, and The Dragonian Empire are still a bit low, although part of that is that group 4 has stayed so close -- Timway and Audioslavia are 5 and 6, but both are within 3 points of first.

Kaze Progressa seems to be having the best run of luck; 5-1-2 isn't too shabby in a group that contains 4 higher-seeded sides. Eauz is doing pretty well in that regard, too, as is Aquilla.

Among the unseeded sides, Terranos, Lanky Dude, and Auir II are all performing remarkably well.

Here's a scary bit of trivia for Cup vets: The best-performing side so far is Liverpool England. No surprise there. But the second-best is Gilmeecia. Bit of an improvement, over the last few Cups, eh?

The worst performance is One Blue Dot, who have yet to gain a point. Second is Wildthings Realm, who have yet to win a match.

Best Defense: Anti-Nazis (1 GA); runners-up: Halfassedstates, Ariddia, TnUI (3 GA)

Worst Defense: One Blue Dot (20 GA); runner-up: Kravoli (19 GA)

Best Offense: Squornshelous, Oglethorpia (19 GF); runner-up: Liverpool England (18 GF)

Worst Offense: Anti-Nazis (1 GF); runner-up: Morawny (3 GF)

Most open groups: 4 (3 points separating 1st place from 6th), 6 (4 points separating 1st place from 6th)

Most closed groups: 7, 9 (4 points separating 3rd place from 4th)

Matchday 9 scores will be posted in about 4 hours.
Ravenspire
05-11-2003, 00:25
Meh. Since the forums crapped out on me until right before my evening appointment, it's going to be another 3 hours or so before I can get back. Sorry.
Aquilla
05-11-2003, 03:09
Kaze Progressa seems to be having the best run of luck; 5-1-2 isn't too shabby in a group that contains 4 higher-seeded sides. Eauz is doing pretty well in that regard, too, as is Aquilla.


Woohoo!
Ravenspire
05-11-2003, 03:51
Matchday 9 Results

One Red Dot 1 0 Zeronia
Soviet Haaregard 0 3 God Squad
Kegarna 0 2 Liverpool England
The Belmore Family 0 0 Kaze Progressa

Haraki 3 1 CallMeBernard
Errinundera 1 0 NASTIC 2
SterlingIce 1 2 Commerce Heights
Eauz 0 1 Akbarland

Bedistan 0 2 Zinkoland
Halfassedstates 3 2 Kramerica
Tranquillitus 1 2 Antaeus Rising
Endray-Island 2 1 Nikea

Timway 1 1 Clearwater
Audioslavia 3 1 Lanky Dude
Sensual Products 1 2 Spaam
East Spaam 2 1 Aquilla

Runaway Moose 2 0 Boa Vista
Svecia 1 0 Hokianga
Offshore 0 2 The Lowland Clans
West Arridia 2 1 Quohog

Oddslavo 1 1 Consumer Engineering
Gesamtkuntswerk 1 0 Jezland
The Redavic Union 2 0 Dark Outcasts
LordSquall 0 2 Pure Evil

Busby 2 0 Anti-Nazis
Ariddia 1 1 Kravoli
Rejistania 2 1 Squornshelous
Defari 1 1 Keyshona

Oglethorpia 2 2 Warnocks Wizards
Snub Nose 38 1 1 Evisceratomatoes
Wildthings Realm 0 3 Demonic Beings
Hell Bovines 0 0 Tanah Burung

Giant Zucchini 0 1 Auir II
Gilmeecia 3 1 Morawny
One Blue Dot 1 2 Bullonien
The Dragonian Empire 2 1 TnUI

Lemmitania 4 0 Belmorian Scandinavia
Dennisov 2 0 Freedom Country
Terranos 2 3 Kingsford
1900s Oglethorpia 2 0 The Weegies


Tables Post-Matchday 9
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Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 9 8 1 0 20 5 15 25
One Red Dot (29) 9 5 3 1 14 8 6 18
Kaze Progressa (59) 9 5 2 2 13 8 5 17
The Belmore Family (13) 9 4 3 2 11 7 4 15
Kegarna 9 2 2 5 7 14 -7 8
God Squad (42) 9 2 1 6 8 14 -6 7
Soviet Haaregrad 9 2 1 6 4 13 -9 7
Zeronia (79) 9 1 1 7 4 12 -8 4

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Haraki (2) 9 5 3 1 19 11 8 18
Commerce Heights (23) 9 5 1 3 14 12 2 16
Errinundera (15) 9 4 3 2 13 9 4 15
Eauz (52) 9 5 0 4 11 11 0 15
Akbarland (37) 9 4 0 5 12 12 0 12
SterlingIce 9 3 1 5 10 11 -1 10
CallMeBernard 9 2 2 5 10 17 -7 8
NASTIC 2 9 1 4 4 12 18 -6 7

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Halfassedstates (13) 9 7 1 1 14 5 9 22
Bedistan (3) 9 6 1 2 12 8 4 19
Endray-Island (54) 9 5 0 4 15 12 3 15
Nikea (44) 9 4 3 2 13 11 2 15
Antaeus Rising (26) 9 4 1 4 16 11 5 13
Tranquillitus 9 3 0 6 8 13 -5 9
Zinkoland (87) 9 2 1 6 8 13 -5 7
Kramerica 9 1 1 7 7 20 -13 4

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Spaam (24) 9 4 4 1 11 9 2 16
East Spaam (74) 9 5 1 3 12 11 1 16
Aquilla (36) 9 4 2 3 14 9 5 14
Audioslavia (18) 9 4 2 3 11 7 4 14
Lanky Dude 9 4 2 3 13 11 2 14
Timway (5) 9 3 4 2 13 11 2 13
Sensual Products 9 1 3 5 6 13 -7 6
Clearwater 9 1 2 6 7 17 -10 5

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Runaway Moose (6) 9 6 1 2 17 9 8 19
Quohog (43) 9 5 3 1 14 8 6 18
Svecia (16) 9 5 2 2 12 7 5 17
West Arridia (69) 9 5 0 4 16 14 2 15
The Lowland Clans (30) 9 4 1 4 10 9 1 13
Boa Vista 9 3 3 3 9 10 -1 12
Offshore 9 2 0 7 9 19 -10 6
Hokianga 9 1 0 8 8 18 -10 3

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 9 5 2 2 17 8 9 17
Pure Evil (35) 9 5 1 3 13 12 1 16
Dark Outcasts (33) 9 4 3 2 10 9 1 15
Oddslavo (7) 9 3 5 1 12 7 5 14
The Redavic Union 9 4 2 3 9 11 -2 14
LordSquall (53) 9 3 2 4 12 10 2 11
Consumer Engineering (90) 9 1 3 5 8 13 -5 6
Jezland 9 1 2 6 6 17 -11 5

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Ariddia (19) 9 5 4 0 13 4 9 19
Squornshelous (25) 9 5 3 1 20 9 11 18
Busby (8) 9 5 2 2 14 9 5 17
Rejistania 9 4 1 4 9 13 -4 13
Keyshona (47) 9 3 2 4 9 8 1 11
Anti-Nazis (89) 9 1 6 2 1 3 -2 9
Defari (70) 9 1 3 5 6 11 -5 6
Kravoli 9 1 1 7 5 20 -15 4

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Oglethorpia (10) 9 5 2 2 21 12 9 17
Snub Nose 38 (20) 9 5 2 2 15 10 5 17
Tanah Burung (39) 9 5 2 2 12 8 4 17
Warnocks Wizards (77) 9 4 3 2 11 11 0 15
Hell Bovines (65) 9 4 2 3 9 12 -3 14
Demonic Beings (31) 9 4 0 5 12 9 3 12
Evisceratomatoes 9 2 1 6 5 12 -7 7
Wildthings Realm 9 0 2 7 8 19 -11 2

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Gilmeecia (17) 9 8 0 1 17 6 11 24
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 9 6 1 2 14 5 9 19
Giant Zucchini (11) 9 5 2 2 15 8 7 17
Auir II 9 5 1 3 11 10 1 16
Bullonien (26) 9 3 2 4 14 5 9 14
The Dragonian Empire (55) 9 2 1 6 9 17 -8 7
Morawny 9 2 1 6 4 15 -11 7
One Blue Dot 9 0 0 9 5 22 -17 0

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Dennisov (22) 9 6 1 2 13 6 7 19
Lemmitania (12) 9 5 3 1 16 8 8 18
Kingsford (28) 9 5 1 3 15 9 6 16
Terranos 9 4 2 3 12 11 1 14
The Weegies (45) 9 3 4 2 11 9 2 13
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 9 4 1 4 15 14 1 13
Belmorian Scandinavia 9 1 2 6 5 17 -12 5
Freedom Country 9 1 0 8 5 18 -13 3
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05-11-2003, 18:57
Okay. First of all, I'm really glad to be back. My internet was dead for ten days, which is why I haven't RPed any games. I'll do my best to catch up. Really dreadfully sorry, everyone.
Ravenspire
05-11-2003, 19:08
Since I'm planning to slack off this afternoon and see a movie (some Matrix thing... never heard of it), I'm posting early. Since I'm posting early, I didn't decrease anyone's RP bonus this time around.

Tomorrow's scores, in contrast, will be a bit later than usual... around 6 PM Eastern time, provided the forums are operational.

Matchday 10 Results

God Squad 0 1 One Red Dot
Kegarna 0 2 Soviet Haaregard
Liverpool England 1 2 The Belmore Family
Kaze Progressa 2 1 Zeronia

NASTIC 2 1 3 Haraki
SterlingIce 0 2 Errinundera
Commerce Heights 4 3 Eauz
Akbarland 2 1 CallMeBernard

Kramerica 1 2 Bedistan
Tranquillitus 2 3 Halfassedstates
Antaeus Rising 2 1 Endray-Island
Nikea 4 2 Zinkoland

Lanky Dude 0 4 Timway
Sensual Products 0 1 Audioslavia
Spaam 0 1 East Spaam
Aquilla 2 0 Clearwater

Hokianga 2 3 Runaway Moose
Offshore 1 0 Svecia
The Lowland Clans 1 1 West Arridia
Quohog 0 1 Boa Vista

Jezland 2 3 Oddslavo
The Redavic Union 0 3 Gesamtkuntswerk
Dark Outcasts 2 1 LordSquall
Pure Evil 2 1 Consumer Engineering

Kravoli 2 3 Busby
Rejistania 1 0 Ariddia
Squornshelous 1 1 Defari
Keyshona 1 1 Anti-Nazis

Evisceratomatoes 2 3 Oglethorpia
Wildthings Realm 1 1 Snub Nose 38
Demonic Beings 1 2 Hell Bovines
Tanah Burung 0 2 Warnocks Wizards

Morawny 0 1 Giant Zucchini
One Blue Dot 2 3 Gilmeecia
Bullonien 2 1 The Dragonian Empire
TnUI 2 0 Auir II

Freedom Country 2 3 Lemmitania
Terranos 1 0 Dennisov
Kingsford 2 1 1900s Oglethorpia
The Weegies 3 1 Belmorian Scandinavia


Tables Post-Matchday 10
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Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Liverpool England (1) 10 8 1 1 21 7 14 25
One Red Dot (29) 10 6 3 1 15 8 7 21
Kaze Progressa (59) 10 6 2 2 15 9 6 20
The Belmore Family (13) 10 5 3 2 13 8 5 18
Soviet Haaregrad 10 3 1 6 6 13 -7 10
Kegarna 10 2 2 6 7 16 -9 8
God Squad (42) 10 2 1 7 8 15 -7 7 X
Zeronia (79) 10 1 1 8 5 14 -9 4 X

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Haraki (2) 10 6 3 1 22 12 10 21
Commerce Heights (23) 10 6 1 3 18 15 3 19
Errinundera (15) 10 5 3 2 15 9 6 18
Akbarland (37) 10 5 0 5 14 13 1 15
Eauz (52) 10 5 0 5 14 15 -1 15
SterlingIce 10 3 1 6 10 13 -3 10
CallMeBernard 10 2 2 6 11 19 -8 8
NASTIC 2 10 1 4 5 13 21 -8 7

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Halfassedstates (13) 10 8 1 1 17 7 10 25
Bedistan (3) 10 7 1 2 14 9 5 22
Nikea (44) 10 5 3 2 17 13 4 18
Antaeus Rising (26) 10 5 1 4 18 12 6 16
Endray-Island (54) 10 5 0 5 16 14 2 15
Tranquillitus 10 3 0 7 10 16 -6 9
Zinkoland (87) 10 2 1 7 10 17 -7 7
Kramerica 10 1 1 8 8 22 -14 4 X

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
East Spaam (74) 10 6 1 3 13 11 2 19
Aquilla (36) 10 5 2 3 16 9 7 17
Audioslavia (18) 10 5 2 3 12 7 5 17
Timway (5) 10 4 4 2 17 11 6 16
Spaam (24) 10 4 4 2 11 10 1 16
Lanky Dude 10 4 2 4 13 15 -2 14
Sensual Products 10 1 3 6 6 14 -8 6
Clearwater 10 1 2 7 7 19 -12 5

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Runaway Moose (6) 10 7 1 2 20 11 9 22
Quohog (43) 10 5 3 2 14 9 5 18
Svecia (16) 10 5 2 3 12 8 4 17
West Arridia (69) 10 5 1 4 17 15 2 16
Boa Vista 10 4 3 3 10 10 0 15
The Lowland Clans (30) 10 4 2 4 11 10 1 14
Offshore 10 3 0 7 10 19 -9 6
Hokianga 10 1 0 9 10 21 -11 3 X

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 10 6 2 2 20 8 12 20
Pure Evil (35) 10 6 1 3 15 13 2 19
Dark Outcasts (33) 10 5 3 2 12 10 2 18
Oddslavo (7) 10 4 5 1 15 9 6 17
The Redavic Union 10 4 2 4 9 14 -5 14
LordSquall (53) 10 3 2 5 13 12 1 11
Consumer Engineering (90) 10 1 3 6 9 15 -6 6
Jezland 10 1 2 7 8 20 -12 5 X

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Busby (8) 10 6 2 2 17 11 6 20
Ariddia (19) 10 5 4 1 13 5 8 19
Squornshelous (25) 10 5 4 1 21 10 11 19
Rejistania 10 5 1 4 10 13 -3 16
Keyshona (47) 10 3 3 4 10 9 1 12
Anti-Nazis (89) 10 1 7 2 2 4 -2 10
Defari (70) 10 1 4 5 7 12 -5 7
Kravoli 10 1 1 8 7 23 -16 4 X

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Oglethorpia (10) 10 6 2 2 24 14 10 20
Snub Nose 38 (20) 10 5 3 2 16 11 5 18
Warnocks Wizards (77) 10 5 3 2 13 11 2 18
Tanah Burung (39) 10 5 2 3 12 10 2 17
Hell Bovines (65) 10 5 2 3 11 13 -2 17
Demonic Beings (31) 10 4 0 6 13 11 2 12
Evisceratomatoes 10 2 1 7 7 15 -8 7
Wildthings Realm 10 0 3 7 9 20 -11 3 X

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Gilmeecia (17) 10 9 0 1 20 8 12 27
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 10 7 1 2 16 5 11 22
Giant Zucchini (11) 10 6 2 2 16 8 8 20
Bullonien (26) 10 4 2 4 16 6 10 17
Auir II 10 5 1 4 11 12 -1 16
The Dragonian Empire (55) 10 2 1 7 10 19 -9 7 X
Morawny 10 2 1 7 4 16 -12 7 X
One Blue Dot 10 0 0 10 7 25 -18 0 X

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Lemmitania (12) 10 6 3 1 19 10 9 21
Kingsford (28) 10 6 1 3 17 10 7 19
Dennisov (22) 10 6 1 3 13 7 6 19
Terranos 10 5 2 3 13 11 2 17
The Weegies (45) 10 4 4 2 14 10 4 16
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 10 4 1 5 16 16 0 13
Belmorian Scandinavia 10 1 2 7 6 20 -14 5 X
Freedom Country 10 1 0 9 7 21 -14 3 X

E - Mathematically eliminated.
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Assorted Trivia

Best Teams: Gilmeecia (27); Halfassedstates, Liverpool England (25); Bedistan, Runaway Moose, TnUI (22)

Worst Teams: One Blue Dot (0); Freedom Country, Hokianga, Wildthings Realm (3); Kramerica, Kravoli, Zeronia (4)

Best Offense: Oglethorpia (24); Haraki (22); Liverpool England, Squornshelous (21)

Worst Offense: Anti-Nazis (2); Morawny (4); Zeronia (5)

Best Defense: Anti-Nazis (4); TnUI (5); Bullonien (6)

Worst Defense: One Blue Dot (25); Kravoli (23); Kramerica (22)
Snub Nose 38
05-11-2003, 19:39
Raven - EB: 2 Minor errors in 10th day charts

Group 1. God Squad is mathematically eliminated.

Group 8. Wildthings Realm, with three draws, should have 3 points.

9th day
[code:1:e3b723c7bb]Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Oglethorpia (10) 9 5 2 2 21 12 9 17
Snub Nose 38 (20) 9 5 2 2 15 10 5 17
Tanah Burung (39) 9 5 2 2 12 8 4 17
Warnocks Wizards (77) 9 4 3 2 11 11 0 15
Hell Bovines (65) 9 4 2 3 9 12 -3 14
Demonic Beings (31) 9 4 0 5 12 9 3 12
Evisceratomatoes 9 2 1 6 5 12 -7 7
Wildthings Realm 9 0 2 7 8 19 -11 2[/code:1:e3b723c7bb]

Matchday 10 results
Evisceratomatoes 2 3 Oglethorpia
Wildthings Realm 1 1 Snub Nose 38
Demonic Beings 1 2 Hell Bovines
Tanah Burung 0 2 Warnocks Wizards

10th day (as it appears)
[code:1:e3b723c7bb]Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Oglethorpia (10) 10 6 2 2 24 14 10 20
Snub Nose 38 (20) 10 5 3 2 16 11 5 18
Warnocks Wizards (77) 10 5 3 2 13 11 2 18
Tanah Burung (39) 10 5 2 3 12 10 2 17
Hell Bovines (65) 10 5 2 3 11 13 -2 17
Demonic Beings (31) 10 4 0 6 13 11 2 12
Evisceratomatoes 10 2 1 7 7 15 -8 7
Wildthings Realm 10 0 3 7 9 20 -11 2 [/code:1:e3b723c7bb]

10th day (as it should appear)
[code:1:e3b723c7bb]Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Oglethorpia (10) 10 6 2 2 24 14 10 20
Snub Nose 38 (20) 10 5 3 2 16 11 5 18
Warnocks Wizards (77) 10 5 3 2 13 11 2 18
Tanah Burung (39) 10 5 2 3 12 10 2 17
Hell Bovines (65) 10 5 2 3 11 13 -2 17
Demonic Beings (31) 10 4 0 6 13 11 2 12
Evisceratomatoes 10 2 1 7 7 15 -8 7
Wildthings Realm 10 0 3 7 9 20 -11 3 [/code:1:e3b723c7bb]
Defari
05-11-2003, 22:04
STATEMENT BY DEFARI FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION:


Due to the performance of Defari in the past two world cups, we have decided to begin to search for a new coaching staff. We hope that our search will be a quick and fruitful one. We feel we are on the brink of becoming a very good team, we just need to go to the next level with a fresh set of ideas and processes. Our coaches will finish out this cup, and some may stay, but afterwards we will enact a new system and bring Defari to the forefront of international soccer.
Ravenspire
06-11-2003, 00:47
Right you are, Snub; corrections made. Thanks.

The movie's kind of crap, by the by. Decent, but not very inspired or original. They really should've stopped after the first one. Ah well.
Halfassedstates
06-11-2003, 11:12
Am I the only one expecting Haraki, LE, Halfassedstates etc. to make a complaint like Pure Evil's in WC8 qualifying? (bump)

There are twelve games left.

By the end of qualifying you'll probably have some ungodly goal difference: I.E. +16, +20. Maybe even higher.


Hmmmm - the ability to see into the future Olgy?
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LE P10 W8 D1 L1 +14 Pts 25
HAR P10 W6 D3 L1 +10 Pts 21
HAS P10 W8 D1 L1 +10 Pts 25[/code:1:e5eda343bd]
All three currently top of our groups (and yes I do realise that i have probably just shot myself in the foot!!)
Oglethorpia
07-11-2003, 00:33
Heh, yeah.

Extra-sensory-perception, HA.

And the Oglethorpian Superteam is looking good to qualify!
Anti-Nazis
07-11-2003, 00:37
Kravoli 0 1 Anti-Nazis


My god. There's actually been a goal in an Anti-Nazis match.

Finnally!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ravenspire
07-11-2003, 01:09
Why does this only seem to happen to me on World Cup threads?
Ravenspire
07-11-2003, 01:12
Matchday 11 Results

One Red Dot 3 0 Kegarna
Soviet Haaregard 0 2 The Belmore Family
Zeronia 1 2 Liverpool England
Kaze Progressa 3 1 God Squad

Haraki 3 1 SterlingIce
Errinundera 1 1 Eauz
CallMeBernard 2 1 Commerce Heights
Akbarland 2 0 NASTIC 2

Bedistan 2 0 Tranquillitus
Halfassedstates 1 2 Endray-Island
Zinkoland 0 1 Antaeus Rising
Nikea 3 0 Kramerica

Timway 3 1 Sensual Products
Audioslavia 2 0 East Spaam
Clearwater 1 3 Spaam
Aquilla 1 1 Lanky Dude

Runaway Moose 3 1 Offshore
Svecia 2 0 West Arridia
Boa Vista 1 3 The Lowland Clans
Quohog 0 1 Hokianga

Oddslavo 3 1 The Redavic Union
Gesamtkuntswerk 1 2 LordSquall
Consumer Engineering 0 2 Dark Outcasts
Pure Evil 1 1 Jezland

Busby 2 2 Rejistania
Ariddia 2 0 Defari
Anti-Nazis 0 6 Squornshelous
Keyshona 3 2 Kravoli

Oglethorpia 3 0 Wildthings Realm
Snub Nose 38 1 1 Hell Bovines
Warnocks Wizards 1 2 Demonic Beings
Tanah Burung 2 0 Evisceratomatoes

Giant Zucchini 1 1 One Blue Dot
Gilmeecia 2 3 The Dragonian Empire
Auir II 1 2 Bullonien
TnUI 3 2 Morawny

Lemmitania 3 1 Terranos
Dennisov 2 0 1900s Oglethorpia
Belmorian Scandinavia 1 3 Kingsford
The Weegies 0 1 Freedom Country

Tables Post-Matchday 11
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Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Liverpool England (1) 11 9 1 1 23 8 15 28
One Red Dot (29) 11 7 3 1 18 8 10 24
Kaze Progressa (59) 11 7 2 2 18 10 8 23
The Belmore Family (13) 11 6 3 2 15 8 7 21
Soviet Haaregrad 11 3 1 7 6 15 -9 10 X
Kegarna 11 2 2 7 7 19 -12 8 X
God Squad (42) 11 2 1 8 9 18 -9 7 X
Zeronia (79) 11 1 1 9 6 16 -10 4 X

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Haraki (2) 11 7 3 1 25 13 12 24
Errinundera (15) 11 5 4 2 16 10 6 19
Commerce Heights (23) 11 6 1 4 19 17 2 19
Akbarland (37) 11 6 0 5 16 13 3 18
Eauz (52) 11 5 1 5 15 16 -1 16
CallMeBernard 11 3 2 6 13 20 -7 11
SterlingIce 11 3 1 7 11 16 -5 10
NASTIC 2 11 1 4 6 13 23 -10 7 X

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Halfassedstates (13) 11 8 1 2 18 9 9 25
Bedistan (3) 11 8 1 2 16 9 7 25
Nikea (44) 11 6 3 2 20 13 7 21
Antaeus Rising (26) 11 6 1 4 19 12 7 19
Endray-Island (54) 11 6 0 5 18 15 3 18
Tranquillitus 11 3 0 8 10 18 -8 9 X
Zinkoland (87) 11 2 1 8 10 18 -8 7 X
Kramerica 11 1 1 9 8 25 -17 4 X

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Audioslavia (18) 11 6 2 3 14 7 7 20
Timway (5) 11 5 4 2 20 12 8 19
Spaam (24) 11 5 4 2 14 11 3 19
East Spaam (74) 11 6 1 4 13 13 0 19
Aquilla (36) 11 5 3 3 17 10 7 18
Lanky Dude 11 4 3 4 14 16 -2 15
Sensual Products 11 1 3 7 7 17 -10 6 X
Clearwater 11 1 2 8 8 22 -14 5 X

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Runaway Moose (6) 11 8 1 2 23 12 11 25
Svecia (16) 11 6 2 3 14 8 6 20
Quohog (43) 11 5 3 3 14 10 4 18
The Lowland Clans (30) 11 5 2 4 15 12 3 17
West Arridia (69) 11 5 1 5 17 17 0 16
Boa Vista 11 4 3 4 11 13 -2 15
Hokianga 11 2 0 9 11 21 -10 6 X
Offshore 11 3 0 8 11 22 -11 6 X

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Dark Outcasts (33) 11 6 3 2 14 10 4 21
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 11 6 2 3 21 10 11 20
Oddslavo (7) 11 5 5 1 18 10 8 20
Pure Evil (35) 11 6 2 3 16 14 2 20
LordSquall (53) 11 4 2 5 15 13 2 14
The Redavic Union 11 4 2 5 10 17 -7 14
Consumer Engineering (90) 11 1 3 7 9 17 -8 6 X
Jezland 11 1 3 7 9 21 -12 6 X

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Squornshelous (25) 11 6 4 1 27 10 17 22
Ariddia (19) 11 6 4 1 15 5 10 22
Busby (8) 11 6 3 2 19 13 6 21
Rejistania 11 5 2 4 12 15 -3 17
Keyshona (47) 11 4 3 4 13 11 2 15
Anti-Nazis (89) 11 1 7 3 2 10 -8 10 X
Defari (70) 11 1 4 6 7 14 -7 7 X
Kravoli 11 1 1 9 9 26 -17 4 X

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Oglethorpia (10) 11 7 2 2 27 14 13 23
Tanah Burung (39) 11 6 2 3 14 10 4 20
Snub Nose 38 (20) 11 5 4 2 17 12 5 19
Warnocks Wizards (77) 11 5 3 3 14 13 1 18
Hell Bovines (65) 11 5 3 3 12 14 -2 18
Demonic Beings (31) 11 5 0 6 15 12 3 15
Evisceratomatoes 11 2 1 8 7 17 -10 7 X
Wildthings Realm 11 0 3 8 9 23 -14 3 X

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Gilmeecia (17) 11 9 0 2 22 11 11 27
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 11 8 1 2 19 7 12 25
Giant Zucchini (11) 11 6 3 2 17 9 8 21
Bullonien (26) 11 5 2 4 18 7 11 20
Auir II 11 5 1 5 12 14 -2 16
The Dragonian Empire (55) 11 3 1 7 13 21 -8 10 X
Morawny 11 2 1 8 6 19 -13 7 X
One Blue Dot 11 0 1 10 8 26 -18 1 X

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Lemmitania (12) 11 7 3 1 22 11 11 24
Kingsford (28) 11 7 1 3 20 11 9 22
Dennisov (22) 11 7 1 3 15 7 8 22
Terranos 11 5 2 4 14 14 0 17
The Weegies (45) 11 4 4 3 14 11 3 16
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 11 4 1 6 16 18 -2 13
Freedom Country 11 2 0 9 8 21 -13 6 X
Belmorian Scandinavia 11 1 2 8 7 23 -16 5 X

E - Mathematically eliminated.
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Best Teams: Liverpool England (28); Gilmeecia (27); Bedistan, Halfassedstates, Runaway Moose, TnUI (25)

Worst Teams: One Blue Dot (1); Wildthings Realm (3); Kramerica, Kravoli, Zeronia (4)

Best Offense: Oglethorpia, Squornshelous (27); Haraki (25); Liverpool England, Runaway Moose (23)

Worst Offense: Anti-Nazis (2); Morawny, Soviet Haaregrad, Zeronia (6); Belmorian Scandinavia, Defari, Evisceratomatoes, Kegarna, Sensual Products (7)

Best Defense: Arridia (5); Audioslavia, Bullonien, Dennisov, TnUI (7); Liverpool England, One Red Dot, Svecia, The Belmore Family (8)

Worst Defense: Kravoli, One Blue Dot (26); Kramerica (25); Belmorian Scandinavia, NASTIC 2, Wildthings Realm (23)
Total n Utter Insanity
07-11-2003, 02:00
Anti-Nazis 0 6 Squornshelous

Heh, now it's just overkill.
Spaam
07-11-2003, 02:45
Probably the most humiliating result EVER: Giant Zucchini 1 One Blue Dot 1.
Nelson says: HA HA!
Kaze Progressa
07-11-2003, 22:01
That's no match for Endray-Island 3 Errinundera 2 in WC8 qualifying.

And goals against Anti-Nazis are coming like buses are said to come here in the UK... all at once, after waiting for ages.
Ravenspire
08-11-2003, 01:09
Matchday 12 Results

Soviet Haaregard 1 1 One Red Dot
Kaze Progressa 1 0 Liverpool England
The Belmore Family 3 1 Zeronia
God Squad 3 2 Kegarna

Errinundera 0 1 Haraki
Akbarland 0 2 Commerce Heights
Eauz 1 1 CallMeBernard
NASTIC 2 2 1 SterlingIce

Halfassedstates 1 1 Bedistan
Nikea 2 3 Antaeus Rising
Endray-Island 1 1 Zinkoland
Kramerica 2 1 Tranquillitus

Audioslavia 3 2 Timway
Aquilla 1 0 Spaam
East Spaam 2 1 Clearwater
Lanky Dude 0 2 Sensual Products

Svecia 2 2 Runaway Moose
Quohog 0 0 The Lowland Clans
West Arridia 2 1 Boa Vista
Hokianga 0 2 Offshore

Gesamtkuntswerk 2 1 Oddslavo
Pure Evil 1 1 Dark Outcasts
LordSquall 2 1 Consumer Engineering
Jezland 1 2 The Redavic Union

Ariddia 1 3 Busby
Keyshona 2 1 Squornshelous
Defari 2 1 Anti-Nazis
Kravoli 0 1 Rejistania

Snub Nose 38 1 1 Oglethorpia
Tanah Burung 2 0 Demonic Beings
Hell Bovines 3 2 Warnocks Wizards
Evisceratomatoes 2 2 Wildthings Realm

Gilmeecia 0 1 Giant Zucchini
TnUI 1 2 Bullonien
The Dragonian Empire 1 0 Auir II
Morawny 2 0 One Blue Dot

Dennisov 0 1 Lemmitania
The Weegies 0 2 Kingsford
1900s Oglethorpia 1 1 Belmorian Scandinavia
Freedom Country 2 1 Terranos

Tables Post-Matchday 12
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Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Liverpool England (1) 12 9 1 2 23 9 14 28
Kaze Progressa (59) 12 8 2 2 19 10 9 26
One Red Dot (29) 12 7 4 1 19 9 10 25
The Belmore Family (13) 12 7 3 2 18 9 9 24
Soviet Haaregrad 12 3 2 7 7 16 -9 11 X
God Squad (42) 12 3 1 8 12 20 -8 10 X
Kegarna 12 2 2 8 9 22 -13 8 X
Zeronia (79) 12 1 1 10 7 19 -12 4 X

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Haraki (2) 12 8 3 1 26 13 13 27
Commerce Heights (23) 12 7 1 4 21 17 4 22
Errinundera (15) 12 5 4 3 16 11 5 19
Akbarland (37) 12 6 0 6 16 15 1 18
Eauz (52) 12 5 2 5 16 17 -1 17
CallMeBernard 12 3 3 6 14 21 -7 12 X
SterlingIce 12 3 1 8 12 18 -6 10 X
NASTIC 2 12 2 4 6 15 24 -9 10 X

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Halfassedstates (13) 12 8 2 2 19 10 9 26
Bedistan (3) 12 8 2 2 17 10 7 26
Antaeus Rising (26) 12 7 1 4 22 14 8 22
Nikea (44) 12 6 3 3 22 16 6 21
Endray-Island (54) 12 6 1 5 19 16 3 19
Tranquillitus 12 3 0 9 11 20 -9 9 X
Zinkoland (87) 12 2 2 8 11 19 -8 8 X
Kramerica 12 2 1 9 10 26 -16 7 X

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Audioslavia (18) 12 7 2 3 17 9 8 23
East Spaam (74) 12 7 1 4 15 14 1 22
Aquilla (36) 12 6 3 3 18 10 8 21
Timway (5) 12 5 4 3 22 15 7 19
Spaam (24) 12 5 4 3 14 12 2 19
Lanky Dude 12 4 3 5 14 18 -4 15
Sensual Products 12 2 3 7 9 17 -8 9 X
Clearwater 12 1 2 9 9 24 -15 5 X

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Runaway Moose (6) 12 8 2 2 25 14 11 26
Svecia (16) 12 6 3 3 16 10 6 21
Quohog (43) 12 5 4 3 14 10 4 19
West Arridia (69) 12 6 1 5 19 18 1 19
The Lowland Clans (30) 12 5 3 4 15 12 3 18
Boa Vista 12 4 3 5 12 15 -3 15
Offshore 12 4 0 8 13 22 -9 12 X
Hokianga 12 2 0 10 11 23 -12 6 X

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 12 7 2 3 23 11 12 23
Dark Outcasts (33) 12 6 4 2 15 11 4 22
Pure Evil (35) 12 6 3 3 17 15 2 21
Oddslavo (7) 12 5 5 2 19 12 7 20
LordSquall (53) 12 5 2 5 17 14 3 17
The Redavic Union 12 5 2 5 12 18 -6 17
Consumer Engineering (90) 12 1 3 8 10 19 -9 6 X
Jezland 12 1 3 8 10 23 -13 6 X

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Busby (8) 12 7 3 2 22 14 8 24
Squornshelous (25) 12 6 4 2 28 12 16 22
Ariddia (19) 12 6 4 2 16 8 8 22
Rejistania 12 6 2 4 13 15 -2 20
Keyshona (47) 12 5 3 4 15 12 3 18
Defari (70) 12 2 4 6 9 15 -6 10 X
Anti-Nazis (89) 12 1 7 4 3 12 -9 10 X
Kravoli 12 1 1 10 9 27 -18 4 X

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Oglethorpia (10) 12 7 3 2 28 15 13 24
Tanah Burung (39) 12 7 2 3 16 10 6 23
Hell Bovines (65) 12 6 3 3 15 16 -1 21
Snub Nose 38 (20) 12 5 5 2 18 13 5 20
Warnocks Wizards (77) 12 5 3 4 15 15 0 18
Demonic Beings (31) 12 5 0 7 15 14 1 15
Evisceratomatoes 12 2 2 8 9 19 -10 8 X
Wildthings Realm 12 0 4 8 11 25 -14 4 X

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Gilmeecia (17) 12 9 0 3 22 12 10 27
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 12 8 1 3 20 9 11 25
Giant Zucchini (11) 12 7 3 2 18 9 9 24
Bullonien (26) 12 6 2 4 20 8 12 23
Auir II 12 5 1 6 12 15 -3 16 X
The Dragonian Empire (55) 12 4 1 7 14 21 -7 13 X
Morawny 12 3 1 8 8 19 -11 10 X
One Blue Dot 12 0 1 11 8 28 -20 1 X

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Lemmitania (12) 12 8 3 1 23 11 12 27
Kingsford (28) 12 8 1 3 22 11 11 25
Dennisov (22) 12 7 1 4 15 8 7 22
Terranos 12 5 2 5 15 16 -1 17
The Weegies (45) 12 4 4 4 14 13 1 16
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 12 4 2 6 17 19 -2 14 X
Freedom Country 12 3 0 9 10 22 -12 9 X
Belmorian Scandinavia 12 1 3 8 8 24 -16 6 X

E - Mathematically eliminated.
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Best Teams: Liverpool England (28); Gilmeecia, Haraki, Lemmitania (27); Bedistan, Halfassedstates, Kaze Progressa, Runaway Moose (26)

Worst Teams: One Blue Dot (1); Kravoli, Wildthings Realm, Zeronia (4); Clearwater (5)

Best Offense: Oglethorpia, Squornshelous (28); Haraki (26); Runaway Moose (25)

Worst Offense: Anti-Nazis (3); Soviet Haaregrad, Zeronia (7); Belmorian Scandinavia, Morawny, One Blue Dot (8)

Best Defense: Arridia, Bullonien, Dennisov (8); Audioslavia, Giant Zucchini, Liverpool England, One Red Dot, The Belmore Family, TnUI (9); Aquilla, Bedistan, Halfassedstates, Kaze Progressa, Quohog, Svecia, Tanah Burung (10)

Worst Defense: One Blue Dot (28); Kravoli (27); Kramerica (26)

The Law of Averages seems to have stomped most of the peculiarities, although God Squad never caught fire, Demonic Beings are a bit weak, and Rejistania and Terranos are hanging in with surprising tenacity.
Bedistan
08-11-2003, 01:20
The Bedistan Useless Information Board gives the following useless (to some) information:

As of matchday 12, Haraki, Runaway Moose, Lemmitania, and Kingsford have all secured qualifying spots.

On the home front, Bedistan is rather close to that. Damn anti-climactic draw with Halfassed... :P
Kaze Progressa
08-11-2003, 15:54
Best Defense: Liverpool England, One Red Dot, The Belmore Family(9);Kaze Progressa(10)

Group 1's been dull ever since the mixup...

Lanky Dude 0 2 Sensual Products

w00t! Creative Newbies 2 Emoticoholics 0.
Halfassedstates
08-11-2003, 16:56
On the home front, Bedistan is rather close to that. Damn anti-climactic draw with Halfassed... :P

Anti-climatic?? The draw just makes it worse - no-one's made it yet and i've got to play Nikea and Antaeus-Rising in the final 2 games!!
Bedistan
08-11-2003, 17:02
On the home front, Bedistan is rather close to that. Damn anti-climactic draw with Halfassed... :P

Anti-climatic?? The draw just makes it worse - no-one's made it yet and i've got to play Nikea and Antaeus-Rising in the final 2 games!!

True, true. Come to think of it, I have to play them too (in reverse order). Maybe that wasn't such a bad thing after all... :P
imported_Nikea
08-11-2003, 22:17
Well, it is sort of anti-climatic. There's no way I'm going to grab 4 points off you two. That makes three World Cups I haven't qualified for. If I don't make the next one I'm just going to not bother with the rest. There's only so many creative ways to make up losses :lol:
Antaeus Rising
08-11-2003, 22:26
I'm sure you can still do it :wink:

and look a chat thread! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90716)
Spaam
08-11-2003, 22:33
Ok ok, I'm going to the chat thread, but....

You don't have to worry, Nikea. TnUI wants to only let one of your two puupets through, so I'm sure he'll take AR out and let you qualify ;)
Ravenspire
09-11-2003, 03:19
Matchday 13 Results

Liverpool England 4 1 One Red Dot
Soviet Haaregard 1 2 Kaze Progressa
God Squad 1 3 The Belmore Family
Kegarna 1 3 Zeronia

Commerce Heights 4 2 Haraki
Errinundera 3 1 Akbarland
NASTIC 2 1 1 Eauz
SterlingIce 1 0 CallMeBernard

Antaeus Rising 2 3 Bedistan
Halfassedstates 2 2 Nikea
Kramerica 1 1 Endray-Island
Tranquillitus 2 1 Zinkoland

Spaam 1 1 Timway
Audioslavia 0 0 Aquilla
Lanky Dude 0 1 East Spaam
Sensual Products 2 0 Clearwater

The Lowland Clans 0 3 Runaway Moose
Svecia 1 0 Quohog
Hokianga 1 1 West Arridia
Offshore 0 1 Boa Vista

Dark Outcasts 0 2 Oddslavo
Gesamtkuntswerk 3 2 Pure Evil
Jezland 1 2 LordSquall
The Redavic Union 2 1 Consumer Engineering

Squornshelous 0 3 Busby
Ariddia 1 0 Keyshona
Kravoli 0 2 Defari
Rejistania 1 0 Anti-Nazis

Demonic Beings 2 3 Oglethorpia
Snub Nose 38 1 1 Tanah Burung
Evisceratomatoes 0 3 Hell Bovines
Wildthings Realm 0 1 Warnocks Wizards

Bullonien 0 3 Giant Zucchini
Gilmeecia 1 0 TnUI
Morawny 2 0 The Dragonian Empire
One Blue Dot 1 0 Auir II

Kingsford 2 2 Lemmitania
Dennisov 2 0 The Weegies
Freedom Country 1 3 1900s Oglethorpia
Terranos 0 2 Belmorian Scandinavia

Tables Post-Matchday 13
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Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Liverpool England (1) 13 10 1 2 27 10 17 31
Kaze Progressa (59) 13 9 2 2 21 11 10 29
The Belmore Family (13) 13 8 3 2 21 10 11 27
One Red Dot (29) 13 7 4 2 20 13 7 25
Soviet Haaregrad 13 3 2 8 8 18 -10 11 X
God Squad (42) 13 3 1 9 13 23 -10 10 X
Kegarna 13 2 2 9 10 25 -15 8 X
Zeronia (79) 13 2 1 10 10 20 -10 7 X

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Haraki (2) 13 8 3 2 28 17 11 27
Commerce Heights (23) 13 8 1 4 25 19 6 25
Errinundera (15) 13 6 4 3 19 12 7 22
Akbarland (37) 13 6 0 7 17 18 -1 18 X
Eauz (52) 13 5 3 5 17 18 -1 18 X
SterlingIce 13 4 1 8 13 18 -5 13 X
CallMeBernard 13 3 3 7 14 22 -8 12 X
NASTIC 2 13 2 5 6 16 25 -9 11 X

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Bedistan (3) 13 9 2 2 20 12 8 29
Halfassedstates (13) 13 8 3 2 21 12 9 27
Antaeus Rising (26) 13 7 1 5 24 17 7 22
Nikea (44) 13 6 4 3 24 18 6 22
Endray-Island (54) 13 6 2 5 20 17 3 20
Tranquillitus 13 4 0 9 13 21 -8 12 X
Zinkoland (87) 13 2 2 9 12 21 -9 8 X
Kramerica 13 2 2 9 11 27 -16 8 X

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
East Spaam (74) 13 8 1 4 16 14 2 25
Audioslavia (18) 13 7 3 3 17 9 8 24
Aquilla (36) 13 6 4 3 18 10 8 22
Timway (5) 13 5 5 3 23 16 7 20
Spaam (24) 13 5 5 3 15 13 2 20
Lanky Dude 13 4 3 6 14 19 -5 15 X
Sensual Products 13 3 3 7 11 17 -6 12 X
Clearwater 13 1 2 10 9 26 -17 5 X

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Runaway Moose (6) 13 9 2 2 28 14 14 29
Svecia (16) 13 7 3 3 17 10 7 24
West Arridia (69) 13 6 2 5 20 19 1 20
Quohog (43) 13 5 4 4 14 11 3 19
The Lowland Clans (30) 13 5 3 5 15 15 0 18
Boa Vista 13 5 3 5 13 15 -2 18
Offshore 13 4 0 9 13 23 -10 12 X
Hokianga 13 2 1 10 12 24 -12 7 X

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 13 8 2 3 26 13 13 26
Oddslavo (7) 13 6 5 2 21 12 9 23
Dark Outcasts (33) 13 6 4 3 15 13 2 22
Pure Evil (35) 13 6 3 4 19 18 1 21
LordSquall (53) 13 6 2 5 19 15 4 20
The Redavic Union 13 6 2 5 14 19 -5 20
Consumer Engineering (90) 13 1 3 9 11 21 -10 6 X
Jezland 13 1 3 9 11 25 -14 6 X

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Busby (8) 13 8 3 2 25 14 11 27
Ariddia (19) 13 7 4 2 17 8 9 25
Rejistania 13 7 2 4 14 15 -1 23
Squornshelous (25) 13 6 4 3 28 15 13 22
Keyshona (47) 13 5 3 5 15 13 2 18 X
Defari (70) 13 3 4 6 11 15 -4 13 X
Anti-Nazis (89) 13 1 7 5 3 13 -10 10 X
Kravoli 13 1 1 11 9 29 -20 4 X

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Oglethorpia (10) 13 8 3 2 31 17 14 27
Tanah Burung (39) 13 7 3 3 17 11 6 24
Hell Bovines (65) 13 7 3 3 18 16 2 24
Snub Nose 38 (20) 13 5 6 2 19 14 5 21
Warnocks Wizards (77) 13 6 3 4 16 15 1 21
Demonic Beings (31) 13 5 0 8 17 17 0 15 X
Evisceratomatoes 13 2 2 9 9 22 -13 8 X
Wildthings Realm 13 0 4 9 11 26 -15 4 X

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Gilmeecia (17) 13 10 0 3 23 12 11 30
Giant Zucchini (11) 13 8 3 2 21 9 12 27
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 13 8 1 4 20 10 10 25
Bullonien (26) 13 6 2 5 20 11 9 23
Auir II 13 5 1 7 12 16 -4 16 X
The Dragonian Empire (55) 13 4 1 8 14 23 -9 13 X
Morawny 13 4 1 8 10 19 -9 13 X
One Blue Dot 13 1 1 11 9 28 -19 4 X

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Lemmitania (12) 13 8 4 1 25 13 12 28
Kingsford (28) 13 8 2 3 24 13 11 26
Dennisov (22) 13 8 1 4 17 8 9 25
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 13 5 2 6 20 20 0 17 X
Terranos 13 5 2 6 15 18 -3 17 X
The Weegies (45) 13 4 4 5 14 15 -1 16 X
Freedom Country 13 3 0 10 11 25 -14 9 X
Belmorian Scandinavia 13 2 3 8 10 24 -14 9 X

E - Mathematically eliminated.

Best Teams: Liverpool England (31); Gilmeecia (30); Bedistan, Kaze Progressa, Runaway Moose (29)

Worst Teams: Kravoli, One Blue Dot, Wildthings Realm (4); Clearwater (5); Consumer Engineering, Jezland (6)

Best Offense: Oglethorpia (31); Haraki, Runaway Moose, Squornshelous (28); Liverpool England (27)

Worst Offense: Anti-Nazis (3); Soviet Haaregrad (8); Clearwater, Evisceratomatoes, Kravoli, One Blue Dot (9)

Best Defense: Ariddia, Dennisov (8); Audioslavia, Giant Zucchini (9); Aquilla, Liverpool England, Svecia, The Belmore Family, TnUI (10)

Worst Defense: Kravoli (29); One Blue Dot (28); Kramerica (27)
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Aquilla
09-11-2003, 03:54
OBD won a game!
Ravenspire
10-11-2003, 03:06
Matchday 14 Results

One Red Dot 2 0 Kaze Progressa
Liverpool England 1 0 Soviet Haaregard
The Belmore Family 3 1 Kegarna
Zeronia 1 1 God Squad

Haraki 2 2 Akbarland
Commerce Heights 1 0 Errinundera
Eauz 2 1 SterlingIce
CallMeBernard 0 2 NASTIC 2

Bedistan 1 1 Nikea
Antaeus Rising 0 2 Halfassedstates
Endray-Island 1 1 Tranquillitus
Zinkoland 2 1 Kramerica

Timway 2 2 Aquilla
Spaam 1 0 Audioslavia
East Spaam 2 1 Sensual Products
Clearwater 0 2 Lanky Dude

Runaway Moose 2 1 Quohog
The Lowland Clans 1 0 Svecia
West Arridia 2 1 Offshore
Boa Vista 2 0 Hokianga

Oddslavo 2 0 Pure Evil
Dark Outcasts 1 1 Gesamtkuntswerk
LordSquall 1 2 The Redavic Union
Consumer Engineering 2 1 Jezland

Busby 2 2 Keyshona
Squornshelous 1 0 Ariddia
Defari 2 1 Rejistania
Anti-Nazis 0 0 Kravoli

Oglethorpia 2 3 Tanah Burung
Demonic Beings 1 2 Snub Nose 38
Hell Bovines 0 1 Wildthings Realm
Warnocks Wizards 2 0 Evisceratomatoes

Giant Zucchini 1 1 TnUI
Bullonien 1 2 Gilmeecia
The Dragonian Empire 2 0 One Blue Dot
Auir II 1 2 Morawny

Lemmitania 1 2 The Weegies
Kingsford 0 2 Dennisov
1900s Oglethorpia 1 1 Terranos
Belmorian Scandinavia 2 1 Freedom Country

Tables, Post-Qualification
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Group 1 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Liverpool England (1) 14 11 1 2 28 10 18 34
The Belmore Family (13) 14 9 3 2 24 11 13 30
Kaze Progressa (59) 14 9 2 3 21 13 8 29
One Red Dot (29) 14 8 4 2 22 13 9 28 X
God Squad (42) 14 3 2 9 14 24 -10 11 X
Soviet Haaregrad 14 3 2 9 8 19 -11 11 X
Zeronia (79) 14 2 2 10 11 21 -10 8 X
Kegarna 14 2 2 10 11 28 -17 8 X

Group 2 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Haraki (2) 14 8 4 2 30 19 11 28
Commerce Heights (23) 14 9 1 4 26 19 7 28
Errinundera (15) 14 6 4 4 19 13 6 22
Eauz (52) 14 6 3 5 19 19 0 21 X
Akbarland (37) 14 6 1 7 19 20 -1 19 X
NASTIC 2 14 3 5 6 18 25 -7 14 X
SterlingIce 14 4 1 9 14 20 -6 13 X
CallMeBernard 14 3 3 8 14 24 -10 12 X

Group 3 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Halfassedstates (13) 14 9 3 2 23 12 11 30
Bedistan (3) 14 9 3 2 21 13 8 30
Nikea (44) 14 6 5 3 25 19 6 23
Antaeus Rising (26) 14 7 1 6 24 19 5 22 X
Endray-Island (54) 14 6 3 5 21 18 3 21 X
Tranquillitus 14 4 1 9 14 22 -8 13 X
Zinkoland (87) 14 3 2 9 14 22 -8 11 X
Kramerica 14 2 2 10 12 29 -17 8 X

Group 4 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
East Spaam (74) 14 9 1 4 18 15 3 28
Audioslavia (18) 14 7 3 4 17 10 7 24
Aquilla (36) 14 6 5 3 20 12 8 23
Spaam (24) 14 6 5 3 16 13 3 23 X
Timway (5) 14 5 6 3 25 18 7 21 X
Lanky Dude 14 5 3 6 16 19 -3 18 X
Sensual Products 14 3 3 8 12 19 -7 12 X
Clearwater 14 1 2 11 9 28 -19 5 X

Group 5 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Runaway Moose (6) 14 10 2 2 30 15 15 32
Svecia (16) 14 7 3 4 17 11 6 24
West Arridia (69) 14 7 2 5 22 20 2 23
The Lowland Clans (30) 14 6 3 5 16 15 1 21 X
Boa Vista 14 6 3 5 15 15 0 21 X
Quohog (43) 14 5 4 5 15 13 2 19 X
Offshore 14 4 0 10 14 25 -11 12 X
Hokianga 14 2 1 11 12 26 -14 7 X

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 14 8 3 3 27 14 13 27
Oddslavo (7) 14 7 5 2 23 12 11 26
Dark Outcasts (33) 14 6 5 3 16 14 2 23
The Redavic Union 14 7 2 5 16 20 -4 23 X
Pure Evil (35) 14 6 3 5 19 20 -1 21 X
LordSquall (53) 14 6 2 6 20 17 3 20 X
Consumer Engineering (90) 14 2 3 9 13 22 -9 9 X
Jezland 14 1 3 10 12 27 -15 6 X

Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Busby (8) 14 8 4 2 27 16 11 28
Squornshelous (25) 14 7 4 3 29 15 14 25
Ariddia (19) 14 7 4 3 17 9 8 25
Rejistania 14 7 2 5 15 17 -2 23 X
Keyshona (47) 14 5 4 5 17 15 2 19 X
Defari (70) 14 4 4 6 13 16 -3 16 X
Anti-Nazis (89) 14 1 8 5 3 13 -10 11 X
Kravoli 14 1 2 11 9 29 -20 5 X

Group 8 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Oglethorpia (10) 14 8 3 3 33 20 13 27
Tanah Burung (39) 14 8 3 3 20 13 7 27
Snub Nose 38 (20) 14 6 6 2 21 15 6 24
Warnocks Wizards (77) 14 7 3 4 18 15 3 24 X
Hell Bovines (65) 14 7 3 4 18 17 1 24 X
Demonic Beings (31) 14 5 0 9 18 19 -1 15 X
Evisceratomatoes 14 2 2 10 9 24 -15 8 X
Wildthings Realm 14 1 4 9 12 26 -14 7 X

Group 9 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Gilmeecia (17) 14 11 0 3 25 13 12 33
Giant Zucchini (11) 14 8 4 2 22 10 12 28
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 14 8 2 4 20 11 9 26
Bullonien (26) 14 6 2 6 21 13 8 23 X
Auir II 14 5 1 8 13 18 -5 16 X
The Dragonian Empire (55) 14 5 1 8 16 23 -7 16 X
Morawny 14 5 1 8 12 20 -8 16 X
One Blue Dot 14 1 1 12 9 30 -21 4 X

Group 10 P W D L GF GA GD Pts E
Lemmitania (12) 14 8 4 2 26 15 11 28
Dennisov (22) 14 9 1 4 19 8 11 28
Kingsford (28) 14 8 2 4 24 15 9 26
The Weegies (45) 14 5 4 5 16 16 0 19 X
1900s Oglethorpia (56) 14 5 3 6 21 21 0 18 X
Terranos 14 5 3 6 16 19 -3 18 X
Belmorian Scandinavia 14 3 3 8 12 25 -13 12 X
Freedom Country 14 3 0 11 12 27 -15 9 X

E - Mathematically eliminated.

Best Teams: Liverpool England (34); Gilmeecia (33); Runaway Moose (32)

Worst Teams: One Blue Dot (4); Clearwater, Kravoli (5); Jezland (6)

Best Offense: Oglethorpia (33); Haraki, Runaway Moose (30); Squornshelous (29)

Worst Offense: Anti-Nazis (3); Soviet Haaregrad (8); Clearwater, Evisceratomatoes, Kravoli, One Blue Dot (9)

Best Defense: Dennisov (8); Arridia (9); Audioslavia, Giant Zucchini (10)

Worst Defense: One Blue Dot (30); Kramerica, Kravoli (29); Clearwater, Kegarna (28)
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Total number of matches in which RP bonuses improved a result (from loss to draw or win, or from draw to win): 14. There were also about 22 matches in which RP bonuses did not improve the result, but did increase the margin of victory or decrease the margin of failure by at least one goal.

Team to most benefit from RP bonuses: Rejistania (one loss->draw, one loss->win)

Demonic Beings, Freedom Country, Gilmeecia, and Offshore are the only teams not to achieve a draw.

Anti-Nazis achieved the most draws, 8; 7 of them were scoreless.
Ravenspire
10-11-2003, 03:14
Using the old ranking system, this is how the entered teams would stand at the end of qualifying. The 30 qualifiers are listed in order of their performance in qualifiers; this is provisional, and final rankings would be determined by their performance in the Cup. The hosts are listed separately, for completeness, but obviously have no record in the qualifiers, so provisional ranking is impossible.

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Top 30 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 14 11 1 2 28 10 18 34
Gilmeecia (17) 14 11 0 3 25 13 12 33
Runaway Moose (6) 14 10 2 2 30 15 15 32
The Belmore Family (13) 14 9 3 2 24 11 13 30
Halfassedstates (13) 14 9 3 2 23 12 11 30
Bedistan (3) 14 9 3 2 21 13 8 30
Kaze Progressa (59) 14 9 2 3 21 13 8 29
Giant Zucchini (11) 14 8 4 2 22 10 12 28
Haraki (2) 14 8 4 2 30 19 11 28
Busby (8) 14 8 4 2 27 16 11 28
Lemmitania (12) 14 8 4 2 26 15 11 28
Dennisov (22) 14 9 1 4 19 8 11 28
Commerce Heights (23) 14 9 1 4 26 19 7 28
East Spaam (74) 14 9 1 4 18 15 3 28
Oglethorpia (10) 14 8 3 3 33 20 13 27
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 14 8 3 3 27 14 13 27
Tanah Burung (39) 14 8 3 3 20 13 7 27
Oddslavo (7) 14 7 5 2 23 12 11 26
Kingsford (28) 14 8 2 4 24 15 9 26
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 14 8 2 4 20 11 9 26
Squornshelous (25) 14 7 4 3 29 15 14 25
Ariddia (19) 14 7 4 3 17 9 8 25
Audioslavia (18) 14 7 3 4 17 10 7 24
Snub Nose 38 (20) 14 6 6 2 21 15 6 24
Svecia (16) 14 7 3 4 17 11 6 24
Aquilla (36) 14 6 5 3 20 12 8 23
Nikea (44) 14 6 5 3 25 19 6 23
West Arridia (69) 14 7 2 5 22 20 2 23
Dark Outcasts (33) 14 6 5 3 16 14 2 23
Errinundera (15) 14 6 4 4 19 13 6 22

Hosts
Europa Brittania (4)
Ravenspire (9)

New Rankings P W D L GF GA GD Pts
33. One Red Dot (29) 14 8 4 2 22 13 9 28
34. Warnocks Wizards (77) 14 7 3 4 18 15 3 24
35. Hell Bovines (65) 14 7 3 4 18 17 1 24
36. Bullonien (26) 14 6 2 6 21 13 8 23
37. Spaam (24) 14 6 5 3 16 13 3 23
38. Rejistania 14 7 2 5 15 17 -2 23
39. The Redavic Union 14 7 2 5 16 20 -4 23
40. Antaeus Rising (26) 14 7 1 6 24 19 5 22
41. Timway (5) 14 5 6 3 25 18 7 21
42. Endray-Island (54) 14 6 3 5 21 18 3 21
43. The Lowland Clans (30) 14 6 3 5 16 15 1 21
44. Eauz (52) 14 6 3 5 19 19 0 21
45. Boa Vista 14 6 3 5 15 15 0 21
46. Pure Evil (35) 14 6 3 5 19 20 -1 21
47. LordSquall (53) 14 6 2 6 20 17 3 20
48. Keyshona (47) 14 5 4 5 17 15 2 19
49. Quohog (43) 14 5 4 5 15 13 2 19
50. The Weegies (45) 14 5 4 5 16 16 0 19
51. Akbarland (37) 14 6 1 7 19 20 -1 19
52. 1900s Oglethorpia (56) 14 5 3 6 21 21 0 18
53. Terranos 14 5 3 6 16 19 -3 18
53. Lanky Dude 14 5 3 6 16 19 -3 18
55. Defari (70) 14 4 4 6 13 16 -3 16
56. Auir II 14 5 1 8 13 18 -5 16
57. The Dragonian Empire (55) 14 5 1 8 16 23 -7 16
58. Morawny 14 5 1 8 12 20 -8 16
59. Demonic Beings (31) 14 5 0 9 18 19 -1 15
60. NASTIC 2 14 3 5 6 18 25 -7 14
61. SterlingIce 14 4 1 9 14 20 -6 13
62. Tranquillitus 14 4 1 9 14 22 -8 13
63. Sensual Products 14 3 3 8 12 19 -7 12
64. CallMeBernard 14 3 3 8 14 24 -10 12
65. Offshore 14 4 0 10 14 25 -11 12
66. Belmorian Scandinavia 14 3 3 8 12 25 -13 12
67. Zinkoland (87) 14 3 2 9 14 22 -8 11
68. God Squad (42) 14 3 2 9 14 24 -10 11
69. Anti-Nazis (89) 14 1 8 5 3 13 -10 11
70. Soviet Haaregrad 14 3 2 9 8 19 -11 11
71. Consumer Engineering (90) 14 2 3 9 13 22 -9 9
72. Freedom Country 14 3 0 11 12 27 -15 9
73. Zeronia (79) 14 2 2 10 11 21 -10 8
74. Evisceratomatoes 14 2 2 10 9 24 -15 8
75. Kramerica 14 2 2 10 12 29 -17 8
76. Kegarna 14 2 2 10 11 28 -17 8
77. Hokianga 14 2 1 11 12 26 -14 7
77. Wildthings Realm 14 1 4 9 12 26 -14 7
79. Jezland 14 1 3 10 12 27 -15 6
80. Clearwater 14 1 2 11 9 28 -19 5
81. Kravoli 14 1 2 11 9 29 -20 5
82. One Blue Dot 14 1 1 12 9 30 -21 4
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East Spaam
10-11-2003, 04:04
We would like to announce, that due to 'financial' difficulties, we are pulling out of the World Cup, even though we topped our group.

One comfort we can draw from this is that our brothers Spaam will therefore qualify. Go Spaam!

OOC: So yeah, Spaam is through, and East Spaam is out ;)
Liverpool England
10-11-2003, 04:08
We would like to announce, that due to 'financial' difficulties, we are pulling out of the World Cup, even though we topped our group.

One comfort we can draw from this is that our brothers Spaam will therefore qualify. Go Spaam!

OOC: So yeah, Spaam is through, and East Spaam is out ;)

How smart.
Then take it that East Spaam is ranked 34th, and everyone below drops a spot up till Spaam?
East Spaam
10-11-2003, 04:09
We would like to announce, that due to 'financial' difficulties, we are pulling out of the World Cup, even though we topped our group.

One comfort we can draw from this is that our brothers Spaam will therefore qualify. Go Spaam!

OOC: So yeah, Spaam is through, and East Spaam is out ;)

How smart.
Then take it that East Spaam is ranked 34th, and everyone below drops a spot up till Spaam?

Well done, Sherlock ;)
Ravenspire
10-11-2003, 04:21
OOC: Um, no. If you're withdrawing, you're withdrawing. East Spaam and Spaam are then out, and Timway is in.
East Spaam
10-11-2003, 04:21
OOC: Oh come on.... why can't I withdraw just East Spaam?
Liverpool England
10-11-2003, 04:28
OOC: Oh come on.... why can't I withdraw just East Spaam?Oh give the man a chance - you pitted a LOT of puppets against their main nations.

Two for you: East Spaam-Spaam, Tranquilitis-Nikea.
Ravenspire
10-11-2003, 04:39
OOC: If you, the player, want to withdraw, that's one thing.

But to try to withdraw one nation you control in favor of another, just to improve the rankings of both nations... sorry, no. Not legit. Other people have dealt with missing a Cup; you can, too.

As for puppets, groups were assigned randomly, as previously mentioned. With the sheer number of puppets, it's inevitable that some will end up in the same group as the main nation. It's not intentional in any way, and in some cases (like Nikea-Tranquillitus), I wasn't even aware that they were controlled by the same player.

You ended up with a 74th-ranked nation on top of a tough group. Be happy about that. Or take your ball and go home, and Timway (probably the most unlucky team in qualifying this time) can take your slot. But don't try to manipulate the ratings to favor your main nation. It's unsportsmanlike.
Spaam
10-11-2003, 04:48
OOC: If you, the player, want to withdraw, that's one thing.

But to try to withdraw one nation you control in favor of another, just to improve the rankings of both nations... sorry, no. Not legit. Other people have dealt with missing a Cup; you can, too.

As for puppets, groups were assigned randomly, as previously mentioned. With the sheer number of puppets, it's inevitable that some will end up in the same group as the main nation. It's not intentional in any way, and in some cases (like Nikea-Tranquillitus), I wasn't even aware that they were controlled by the same player.

You ended up with a 74th-ranked nation on top of a tough group. Be happy about that. Or take your ball and go home, and Timway (probably the most unlucky team in qualifying this time) can take your slot. But don't try to manipulate the ratings to favor your main nation. It's unsportsmanlike.

OOC: I'm improving the rankings am I? Hardly. If you weren't
aware that they were the same player, you would've allowed the
same thing. So what is the difference? I don't care about the
rankings. I care about my team missing out because you put my
puppet in the same group. This sort of thing could happen IRL, so I
don't see what the big problem is. Personally, I would like a ruling
on this, and your cohosts opinion. However, if you are going to
continue to be stubborn about this, then I WILL withdraw.
Ravenspire
10-11-2003, 05:36
Very well, then: other players, any opinion on the issue?
Liverpool England
10-11-2003, 06:02
Yes. Let Spaam and Timway have a playoff.
Rejistania
10-11-2003, 08:08
38th position, I guess, that's not too bad :D

About Spaam-East Spaam: Let East Spaam move out and give Spaam the place, no one could read his RP's (or even better: Let East Spaam withdraw and give me the place :lol: )
Liverpool England
10-11-2003, 09:43
Ravenspire: Spaam finished the group above Timway. Why would Timway qualify if East Spaam pull out?
Gesamtkuntswerk
10-11-2003, 10:04
I say stuff the playoff. Spaam did better than Timway, end of story. If East Spaam pulls out, next in line takes the spot. No reason why there needs to be a playoff, especially when there's no tie to break. If it's wrong for Spaam do move ahead, winning will not make it any more right. If it's right for him to advance, then losing will not make it wrong.
Total n Utter Insanity
10-11-2003, 13:20
The way I see it there are two choices. The one Rav said, if you withdraw you withdraw both teams. Or you enter Spaam ranked at East Spaams rank, RP East Spaam pulling out and never enter a World Cup with it again.

PS The GD is wrong in my group still.
Spaam
10-11-2003, 13:33
In that case I pull out. Full stop.

Well done, Timway.
Audioslavia
10-11-2003, 14:14
as much as i'd like Spaam to be in the competition, i'd have to say pulling East Spaam out to get Spaam in the cup would be unsportsmanlike.

However.

If East Spaam and Spaam were to RP a unification, and thus become one and the same......
Snub Nose 38
10-11-2003, 14:48
re: the Spaam/East Spaam/Timway issue

This is what I would have recommended to the WCC and Spaam. I still recommend it for any future such occurances -

If a qualified nation ("puppet" or not) pulls out of the cup competition, then the vacated slot be filled by a competition between the top unqualified nation in each qualifying group. Single elimination, quick and done with.

In this case (leaving out for the moment that Spaam may have pulled out along with East Spaam), Spaam would be one of ten 4th place sides to compete for that spot. Timway, as 5th, wouldn't get to. Nor would any other 5th place side.

BUT...in this particular case the WCC (if they adopt this idea) will have to weigh into the balance of their decision the fact that Spaam (a few posts above this one) seems to have pulled both East Spaam and Spaam out. And the fact that there seems to be a general concensus that Timway should get the spot. If Spaam has pulled both E Spaam & Spaam out, then I think Timway becomes the "next side in line" for Group 4 - and should be one of 10 sides competing for the vacated slot.

If Spaam is still in, but E Spaam is out, then Spaam should be the side from Group 4 competing with nine others for the slot vacated by East Spaam.

I would argue that One Red Dot, Eauz, Antaeus Rising, The Lowland Clans, The Redavic Union, Rejistania, Warnocks Wizards, Bullonien, and The Weegies have as valid a claim to that slot as Timway/Spaam, whichever.

*(there - that should be about as clear as mud) old guy hobbles away leaning on cane and mumbling something about "now, where was i going?"*
Audioslavia
10-11-2003, 15:07
i like SN38's idea, but as-per-usual, im going to use something from IRL as an example of what we should do. Ladies and Jellyspoons, let me take you back to 1991, and the qualification for Euro '92...

do do doo do do do doo do.

Group 4:
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Group 4 Pld Pts
Yugoslavia 8 14
Denmark 8 13
Northern Ireland 8 7
Austria 8 3
Faroe Islands 8 3
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In this group, just the top team went through, but just before the championships began, Yugoslavia pulled out, maybe partly due to 'funding' problems, but mostly due to the fact that the whole country was slowly dissintegrating into the random slavic states we know today. In this case, all that happened was Denmark took their place.

Just thought id add some theory here :)

source: http://www.euro2004.com/competitions/EURO/AllTimeStatistics/Season=1992/Round=218/index.html
Dark Outcasts
10-11-2003, 15:24
*claps* very organised of you audioslavia.
10-11-2003, 15:40
i like SN38's idea, but as-per-usual, im going to use something from IRL as an example of what we should do. Ladies and Jellyspoons, let me take you back to 1991, and the qualification for Euro '92...

do do doo do do do doo do.

Group 4:
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Group 4 Pld Pts
Yugoslavia 8 14
Denmark 8 13
Northern Ireland 8 7
Austria 8 3
Faroe Islands 8 3
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In this group, just the top team went through, but just before the championships began, Yugoslavia pulled out, maybe partly due to 'funding' problems, but mostly due to the fact that the whole country was slowly dissintegrating into the random slavic states we know today. In this case, all that happened was Denmark took their place.

Just thought id add some theory here :)

source: http://www.euro2004.com/competitions/EURO/AllTimeStatistics/Season=1992/Round=218/index.html

I tend to agree with Audioslavia on this, however this situation is slightly different in that there is a puppet nation involved. Imagine IRL if a colony of one country won a qualifying group. After qualification, said colony pulls out of the cup and its imperial overlord claims its spot. There would be a huge outcry in FIFA if this were to happen IRL.

Given that, if Spaam would like to switch sides, let him do so as there apparently aren't guidelines set up for this issue. However, going by the table that LE posted, the switch were it allowed would effect the future rankings of three nations that finished above Spaam in the over all standings/ratings of the cup. Ourselves, Hell Bovines, and Bullonien would all drop a spot in ranking which we earned through the competition. This bothers me. Should Spaam be allowed to take East Spaam's spot, I suggest East Spaam, should it be allowed to enter any future cups, be unranked for the next competition. I didn't want to become involved in this issue, but as the decision may effect our nation, I thought I should speak up on this.
Audioslavia
10-11-2003, 15:56
Imagine IRL if a colony of one country won a qualifying group. After qualification, said colony pulls out of the cup and its imperial overlord takes its spot. There would be a huge outcry in FIFA if this were to happen IRL.

1978. Argentina need to beat neighbours Peru by 4 goals to qualify. Argentina secretly ship tonnes of free food to Peru. Peru play their subsitute goalkeeper, 2 defenders up front, and various other weird tactical changes. Argentina 6-0 Peru. Argentina went on to win the world cup, without being checked by FIFA. Cheeky rastards :D

OK so it got found out 10 years later and they got a bit of a telling off, but theory is there. Spaam slipped up by announcing it :P

ok, seriously, i know what you mean, but East Spaam or no East Spaam, Spaam should have at least one side in the world cup. If he hadnt have bothered entering East Spaam, there would have just been an extra n00b in our group like Clearwater/Sensual Products and the top 4 sides (who i think all took 3 points off of East Spaam in 2 games) would have just ended up 3 points better off, but in the same positions (assuming the 4 seeded teams whupped the n00bie)

aaaah i dont know, and i dont care. let lemmy and TnUI decide, its their bloddy job :p
Snub Nose 38
10-11-2003, 16:36
Audio: Interesting! I had (truly) no idea this kind of situation had every occured in RL (although why I should be surprised is the real mystery). So, the apparent RL FIFA solution is - the next guy in line in that qualifying group. A couple of things, though.

In RL, qualifying groups are the various "continental" Football Associations - each of which, by FIFA rules, has a set number of sides to enter in the World Cup each time. So, in RL my suggested solution would not work, because it could (and probably would) change that number, and REALLY annoy an entire continent. Suppose when Yugoslavia collapsed, and withdrew, creating an unfilled slot in EUFA, FIFA had set up a competition such as I suggested. And suppose a country from CONCACAF won that competition. Europe would have (justifiably, I might add) errupted in dissention.

But in NS, we select Qualifying Groups at random. That random selection is why I feel the next one in line in EACH group deserves at least a chance.

Regarding the Argentina/Peru thing: What?! They did that?! And got a "severe talking to"?! In my opinion (which counts for zip in FIFA) when that little tidbit was discovered, they should have been banned from the next FIFA World Cup. Period.

So, I'm kind of torn here. I like my solution, but RL is different, and it would mean a delay of getting on to the Cup proper.

Which brings me to the other thing I agree with Audio about - Bottom line is, it's TnUI and Lemmy and Co. that have to resolve this.
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Edited for Gross Stupidity: Of course, I'm absolutely wrong. Audio isn't talking about Continental Football Associations with a set number of qualifiers for a World Cup. He's talking about Euro '92, with what looks like a random draw for qualifying groups. Which brings us right back to "that's how NS does it", and shoots my last pathetic argument down. :oops:
(note to self: read before writing. read before writing. read before writing. it's like listening before talking.)
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And, why do I assume Audio is a "he"? (another :oops: )
Commerce Heights
10-11-2003, 17:09
I think ORD should get into the Cup if East Spaam withdraws, since they are the #33 team. Besides, they have a 4-point lead over the #34 team. :P

SN38: How do you set up a single-elimination tournament with 10 teams? Why not have the top 8 unqualified teams compete instead?
Tanah Burung
10-11-2003, 17:30
I'd say we have a NSWC precedent: when Al Quds dropped out (well, ceased to exist) in WC5 the spot was filled by elimination knock-out among the third-place teams in all the groups (decision by majority WCC vote at the time). That's how Bedistan got in (and Audioslavia had a chance to -- this was actually your suggestion, Audio). And although my memory is hazy, there was some sort of play-down among the various third-place teams for the extra spots in WC6, wasn't there?

So whatever the powers-that-be decide is fine, and i'm very happy to see either Spaam, Timway or any of the fourth-place teams go through, but i think that we should be guided by our own precedent. No matter what happens, a decision on what is done when a qualifying team drops out is needed, so this confusion won't happen in the future. Spaam thought the next-best team would go through automoaticaly, Ravenspire thought that it was unfair to arrange things to get Spaam's main country through, and both are valid positions, but the whole thing would not arise if there was a clear rule in place.
Rejistania
10-11-2003, 17:32
I have to admit, after reading your ideas, I like the playoff idea most!
Snub Nose 38
10-11-2003, 18:02
Hmmm...single elimination tournament, 10 sides. Let's see...5 matches, and we're down to five. Then we'd have to...have...2.5 matches, and get down to 2.5 sides...and...then...

*head explodes*

(without giving somebody(s) a "bye", it can't be done. i guess i should have just said a "playoff" of some kind - but that word tends to annoy everybody except the americans.)
Rejistania
10-11-2003, 18:08
It could be done in league style, but on neutral territory (i.e. without home bonus, every team plays every other once), or we make one elimmination round, and do the rest in league style (that would be just 5 matchdays).
Ravenspire
10-11-2003, 18:10
I'd say we have a NSWC precedent: when Al Quds dropped out (well, ceased to exist) in WC5 the spot was filled by elimination knock-out among the third-place teams in all the groups (decision by majority WCC vote at the time). That's how Bedistan got in (and Audioslavia had a chance to -- this was actually your suggestion, Audio). And although my memory is hazy, there was some sort of play-down among the various third-place teams for the extra spots in WC6, wasn't there?

This is a good point, and one I should have remembered.

10 sides would be difficult, though. How about a runoff between the 8 best 4th-placed sides? That, I can generate tonight easily enough.
Ravenspire
10-11-2003, 18:11
PS The GD is wrong in my group still.

Hmm... I'm not seeing it. Where?
Rejistania
10-11-2003, 18:15
In group 9.
Snub Nose 38
10-11-2003, 18:17
Just to confirm that, yes, there was a "play-down"/"playoff" used in WC6 to qualify some (i think it was about 1/2) of the third place sides. I was one of 'em.
Ravenspire
10-11-2003, 18:56
But the GDs all seem to add up as far as I can tell... maybe it's sleep deprivation. :? Which team(s) are incorrect?

Or did you mean on the homepage? I haven't gotten around to correcting that one yet.
Rejistania
10-11-2003, 19:05
If you just look at things team by team, all is nice, but if you add all Gd's you get 1 as result.
Ravenspire
10-11-2003, 19:52
Found it. Back on Matchday 3, I credited TnUI with an extra goal. The final chart has been edited, and the standings will be shortly.

Edit: Done. The shift in GD moves TnUI back one slot in the provisional listing, since Kingsford had more goals-for. Not that that actually affects anything at this point.
Total n Utter Insanity
10-11-2003, 20:27
When Spaam gets online I'll speak to him and get this all sorted out. For the time being you can draw groups with a space in one of them for the final qualifier.
Spaam
10-11-2003, 21:22
Personally, I thought this was all going to be fun and simple, but obviously people seem to be quite content with accusing me of cheating.

As a result, Spaam and East Spaam officially boycott this World Cup. This decision is final.

See you in OGRZ and good luck to all the teams that made it through.
imported_Nikea
10-11-2003, 22:19
I wouldn't care if Spaam takes over East Spaam's spot, if East Spaam doesn't get to keep their rank. Other teams shouldn't have to drop down a place.

But since it seems over and done with, no big deal discussing it. I personally don't agree with it, but as long as one team outrightly replaces the other (rankings and all), I wouldn't put up much of a protest.

For the record, Tranquillitis is not a colony or anything of Nikea, and if Tranquillitis was 3rd in the group and Nikea was 4th, Tranquillitis would be playing in the WC. I don't personally agree with it, I don't see it as cheating, just not very sportsmanlike.
Kaze Progressa
10-11-2003, 22:44
Nikea has a good point. Get rid of the East Spaamian ranking.

Oh, and as an aside to the Audioslavia IRL comment: Denmark won the tournament :D
Ravenspire
11-11-2003, 02:31
Preliminary. Shout if any of you are in the same group as your puppet.

Group A
Liverpool England (1)
Busby (8)
Kingsford (28)
East Spaam (74) *

Group B
Bedistan (3)
Gilmeecia (17)
Snub Nose 38 (20)
Total n Utter Insanity (49)

Group C
Lemmitania (12)
Errinundera (15)
Commerce Heights (23)
Tanah Burung (39)

Group D
Ravenspire (9)
Svecia (16)
Squornshelous (25)
Kaze Progressa (59)

Group E
Oglethorpia (10)
The Belmore Family (13)
Audioslavia (18)
Nikea (44)

Group F
Haraki (2)
Giant Zucchini (11)
Ariddia (19)
Dark Outcasts (33)

Group G
Europa Brittania (4)
Halfassedstates (13)
Dennisov (22)
West Arridia (69)

Group H
Runaway Moose (6)
Oddslavo (7)
Gesamtkuntswerk (20)
Aquilla (36)

* - Or whichever team takes East Spaam's place.

Day 1
1 vs 4
2 vs 3

Day 2
1 vs 3
2 vs 4

Day 3
1 vs 2
3 vs 4
Liverpool England
11-11-2003, 02:37
Ravenspire, I'd advise you to put an askterisk next to Oddslavo as well. See RP thread for RP. Oddslavo will boycott this WC if Spaam isnt allowed in.
1. Replace E Spaam with Spaam
2. Replace Oddslavo with Spaam, E Spaam with ORD
3. Replace Oddslavo with ORD, E Spaam with Spaam
Ravenspire
11-11-2003, 03:16
OOC: What is with this withdrawal nonsense?

Why bother entering a team if you're not going to see it through?

Seriously, is there any reason for the East Spaam thing other than the player not being content with the random results and wanting his main nation to go through?

Between this and the debate a week or so ago about banning Terranos to let Audioslavia through (back when it looked like he might not qualify; Audioslavia, to his credit, was opposed), and the exclusion of other newbies following the non-qualifications of teams like Tanah Burung the previous year, it's starting to look to me like some of you are demanding that certain teams make it on regardless of their performance, simply because they're vets.

Please tell me that's not the case, and that I'm missing something fundamental here. Because if that is the case... why bother with results at all? If you're going to ignore them or manipulate them, you might as well just RP everything to begin with.
11-11-2003, 03:59
It seems as if I've been pulled into a controversy over the weekend. Aside from my side not performing well, (East) Spaam wants to withdraw, giving Spaam their place. This does smack of trying to prevent Spaam's ranking from falling due to a poor performance in qualification.

As I suggested back in the signup thread for one of the cups, this could all be averted if there were...NO PUPPETS!! I refuse to enter a puppet as I do not wish to potentially take two qualifying spots at the expense of another player who misses out with his/her nation. It's simply about fair play and not being greedy.

While my team did not perform well enough to qualify, I have no qualms whatsoever with neither East Spaam nor Spaam taking the final qualifying spot in Group 4, since this puppet nonsense is ridiculous and such collusion by Spaam is in blatant violation of common courtesy and fair play.

However, I will not accept being promoted into Cup proper, as there are other teams who failed to qualify who performed better than myself. By the same token, if my nation were entered into a playoff system to take the place of Spaam, I would not be opposed to entering Cup proper based on the results of such a playoff.

Boycotting with both nations is a silly thing for Spaam to do, as both teams' players, but especially those on East Spaam will surely feel slighted, since they performed in outstanding fashion over the past two weeks.

I know that I do not have much if any say in this matter, but since I have been pulled into this I felt it necessary to give my opinion.

Furthermore, Belmore, I will accept your invitation to co-host if it is still on the table, but one condition I insist upon in our bid is a puppet-free Cup.
Ravenspire
11-11-2003, 04:05
OOC: Okay, after speaking with co-hosts EB and the current champions LE, we've reached a decision.

For the sake of speed, and in order to attempt to minimize further controversy and bad feeling, we will play the first matches as-is.

East Spaam may participate. If East Spaam does not participate, then that match will be voided, and Group A will consist of three teams (no replacement). When those three teams are scheduled to play East Spaam, they will instead not play that day.

The first match results will be generated tomorrow afternoon as scheduled.

Also, I apologize for the tone of my previous post; I shouldn't have let frustration get the better of me. I'd considered editing it out, but that'd be a bit backhanded.
Europa Brittania
11-11-2003, 04:11
Let it be confirmed as Co-Host, I fully back this proposal.

This matter, as far as Ravenspire and me are concerned, is closed.
Spaam
11-11-2003, 04:15
I am glad the matter is resolved.
Though I did not think that my request was unreasonable, I still stand by my decision to boycott.
Kudos to EB for his handling of this.
Oglethorpia
11-11-2003, 04:22
Ravenspire, I'd advise you to put an askterisk next to Oddslavo as well. See RP thread for RP. Oddslavo will boycott this WC if Spaam isnt allowed in.
1. Replace E Spaam with Spaam
2. Replace Oddslavo with Spaam, E Spaam with ORD
3. Replace Oddslavo with ORD, E Spaam with Spaam

But Liverpool England won't boycott?
Liverpool England
11-11-2003, 04:26
Ravenspire, I'd advise you to put an askterisk next to Oddslavo as well. See RP thread for RP. Oddslavo will boycott this WC if Spaam isnt allowed in.
1. Replace E Spaam with Spaam
2. Replace Oddslavo with Spaam, E Spaam with ORD
3. Replace Oddslavo with ORD, E Spaam with Spaam

But Liverpool England won't boycott?Neither will Oddslavo, now that this is solved.
Liverpool England
11-11-2003, 04:27
Full Groups
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Group A
Liverpool England (1)
Busby (8)
Kingsford (28)

Group B
Bedistan (3)
Gilmeecia (17)
Snub Nose 38 (20)
Total n Utter Insanity (49)

Group C
Lemmitania (12)
Errinundera (15)
Commerce Heights (23)
Tanah Burung (39)

Group D
Ravenspire (9)
Svecia (16)
Squornshelous (25)
Kaze Progressa (59)

Group E
Oglethorpia (10)
The Belmore Family (13)
Audioslavia (18)
Nikea (44)

Group F
Haraki (2)
Giant Zucchini (11)
Ariddia (19)
Dark Outcasts (33)

Group G
Europa Brittania (4)
Halfassedstates (13)
Dennisov (22)
West Arridia (69)

Group H
Runaway Moose (6)
Oddslavo (7)
Gesamtkuntswerk (20)
Aquilla (36)

Day 1
1 vs 4 [Group A: Liverpool England do not play]
2 vs 3

Day 2
1 vs 3
2 vs 4 [Group A: Busby do not play]

Day 3
1 vs 2
3 vs 4 [Group A: Kingsford do not play]
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Total n Utter Insanity
11-11-2003, 14:37
A playoff between the 8 best 3rd placed teams would be better than having no team at all. :?
Audioslavia
11-11-2003, 14:38
(decision by majority WCC vote at the time). That's how Bedistan got in (and Audioslavia had a chance to -- this was actually your suggestion, Audio).


*holds up hands*

guilty as charged, i wouldnt have wanted a playoff to happen if my team wasnt in with a chance :oops:

yes, twas a greedy thing to do, and it wont happen again. Besides, Moyk buttraped me in the first round of the playoff anyway :/
Snub Nose 38
11-11-2003, 14:44
A playoff between the 8 best 3rd placed teams would be better than having no team at all. :?
Concur
Gilmeecia
11-11-2003, 20:22
OOC: Okay, after speaking with co-hosts EB and the current champions LE, we've reached a decision.

Full Groups
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Group A
Liverpool England (1)
Busby (8)
Kingsford (28)

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How convenient for LE. In a three-team group, his chances of advancing to the second round are increased from 50% to 67%.

IMO, allowing LE to make the decision to leave a team out of his group is as much cheating as allowing Spaam to drop his lower-ranked side so that his higher-ranked side can go through.
Europa Brittania
11-11-2003, 21:38
OOC: Okay, after speaking with co-hosts EB and the current champions LE, we've reached a decision.

Full Groups
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Group A
Liverpool England (1)
Busby (8)
Kingsford (28)

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How convenient for LE. In a three-team group, his chances of advancing to the second round are increased from 50% to 67%.

IMO, allowing LE to make the decision to leave a team out of his group is as much cheating as allowing Spaam to drop his lower-ranked side so that his higher-ranked side can go through.

Thats a Very serious accusation, and I will refute it to the full. LE made NO such choice. Perhaps Raven worded that poorly.

He reached a decsion only with MY approval. LE did not have any influence in our final choice. Yes, he was consulted as a "tester." becuase we needed to come up with a definitive solution quickly, and NO OTHER WCC CANDIDATE WAS AVALIBLE.

He posted those tables without our command or say so, of his own free will.

I will say this once more, to sum up.

LE made no decsion. Myself and Ravenspire as Co-hosts made the choice.

Accusations of cheating will be taken very seriously by myself, as would anyone else accused.
Kingsford
11-11-2003, 22:59
Woah woah...

So now I'm in a group of... 3?

Hmm... I don't know if I fully support this tri-grouping. Sorry to add my piss to the pot, because we all know the pot is extremely pissy, but I feel that somehow this is less fair to both the current members of group A and members of other groups.

First off, it's, in my opinion, unfair to other group stage members because now only one team in my group will not progress, instead of half of them.

I'd also like to, without accusing _anyone_ of cheating, bring up a similar situation, with OG and BD as hosts, and LE decided on who'd play who in the... semis, or quarters I think, and instead of facing higher ranked Bedistan, LE put himself against lower ranked Haraki.

Once again, not accusing anyone, just reminding.


Now, onto why it isn't fair to the members of Group A.

First off, I now lose my place and 2nd worst ranked team in the group to worst ranked team in the group, reducing my odds of being in the Top 2. Also, in my personal opinion, I just don't think one game less would cut it for deciding who's the best.. I know it doesn't make logical sense, but it just doesn't feel right. I dunno, maybe it's just me, but only playing two games and having three teams in qualifying doesn't seem right to me.

Well, that's pretty much all the piss I have to add. So, given that my opinion will most likely be disregarded, due to the decision having already been made and the lack of explatives and being pissed off in my post, I bid you farewell.

/me zips up pants, washes hands, and leaves.
Audioslavia
11-11-2003, 23:27
Thats a Very serious accusation, and I will refute it to the full. LE made NO such choice. Perhaps Raven worded that poorly.

He reached a decsion only with MY approval. LE did not have any influence in our final choice. Yes, he was consulted as a "tester." becuase we needed to come up with a definitive solution quickly, and NO OTHER WCC CANDIDATE WAS AVALIBLE.

He posted those tables without our command or say so, of his own free will.

I will say this once more, to sum up.

LE made no decsion. Myself and Ravenspire as Co-hosts made the choice.

Accusations of cheating will be taken very seriously by myself, as would anyone else accused.

Accusations? where? a 3-man group IS convenient for LE.

Lemmy said that "allowing LE to make the decision to leave a team out of his group is as much cheating as allowing Spaam to drop his lower-ranked side" which is true. There was no accusation, there was merely a fact.

Seing as LE didnt make ANY comment about having talked his decision over with anyone in his "despite my complete lack of legislation, i am going to tell you that THIS is what is going to happen" post (the one where he just listed the groups with East Spaam taken out).

You can see where Lemmy is coming from. To all the world, it just looks like LE has decided what is going to happen on his own.

To all the world, it looks like LE has persuaded you to go along with his plan, and you my friend, have been well and truly suckered.

Either way, if Ogle, Nikea and TBF are right, im going to go out in the first round anyway so why do i care :)
Europa Brittania
11-11-2003, 23:47
I can now really see why I was loathe to host.

You see, this is what comes of having only one host who is competently able to organise tables and results.

I have done my very, very best on this, and I'm not recieving anything to make me believe that my best is good enough.

I have stated several times before my inability to organise numerical facets, which is why I was forced to rely heavily on Raven.

It was MY suggestion that we play without E. Spaam.

Becuase of my lack of understanding, I merely asked wether this could be done. I did not realise that their may be an added advantage.

The very thing that made me unsuitable to host has caused this next problem.

I suppose I can apologise for not being intelligent enough to see this....

In the meantime, I shall leave it to Raven to come to a satisfactory conclusion.

I cannot deal with this affair competently.

Apologies.

EB.
Audioslavia
12-11-2003, 00:21
yes you can, just choose what you want to do or what you think is the best solution, stick with it and dont change your mind. if you think having a 3-team group is the best idea, then do that. you are the host, vis a vis, you are the boss.

just have the courage of your convictions and the confidence to carry-out your ideas. someones bound to kick up a fuss no matter what decision you make.

and theres absoloutely nothing wrong with the maths of the tournament, apart from the odd human error which TnUI pounces on :P

if you get all defensive and arsey like you did about Lemmy's post, then all youre gonna get is defensive, arsey posts back, and its not gonna get anyone anywhere.
Squornshelous
12-11-2003, 00:33
...
and theres absoloutely nothing wrong with the maths of the tournament, apart from the odd human error which TnUI pounces on :P

...

never was a truer word spoken. does anyone remember the one time I tried to do the table?
Snub Nose 38
12-11-2003, 00:49
...
and theres absoloutely nothing wrong with the maths of the tournament, apart from the odd human error which TnUI pounces on :P

...

never was a truer word spoken. does anyone remember the one time I tried to do the table?
I think we've all pushed that off into our subconcious conciously. :wink:
Gesamtkuntswerk
12-11-2003, 00:56
So when are we going to start playing the next rounds?
Audioslavia
12-11-2003, 00:59
...
and theres absoloutely nothing wrong with the maths of the tournament, apart from the odd human error which TnUI pounces on :P

...

never was a truer word spoken. does anyone remember the one time I tried to do the table?

yeah, i still have to have that book under one of the legs

BUDUM CHH! COMEDY CHESTNUT!
Audioslavia
12-11-2003, 01:01
So when are we going to start playing the next rounds?

im guessing Thursday. Or Wednesday. Or Friday. those are my guesses in that order :)
Lemmitania
12-11-2003, 02:38
Thats a Very serious accusation, and I will refute it to the full. LE made NO such choice. Perhaps Raven worded that poorly.

He reached a decsion only with MY approval. LE did not have any influence in our final choice. Yes, he was consulted as a "tester." becuase we needed to come up with a definitive solution quickly, and NO OTHER WCC CANDIDATE WAS AVALIBLE.

He posted those tables without our command or say so, of his own free will.

I will say this once more, to sum up.

LE made no decsion. Myself and Ravenspire as Co-hosts made the choice.

Accusations of cheating will be taken very seriously by myself, as would anyone else accused.

Fair enough, EB, and I apologize if aspersions were cast on you or Ravenspire. I did not mean to imply that either of you were operating below-boards.

I seem to recall someone referring to East Spaam's withdrawal (in order to allow Spaam to qualify) as cheating, and that is what I was referring to. However, I cannot recall whether that was posted on-forum or said elsewhere, and if it was said elsewhere, then it was not appropriate to reference it in a post, and I apologize for that.

I was concerned that LE was allowed to sit in on a decision that clearly benefits him; but I accept your statement that it was your decision, not his, and I consider the matter dropped.
Liverpool England
12-11-2003, 02:43
Thats a Very serious accusation, and I will refute it to the full. LE made NO such choice. Perhaps Raven worded that poorly.

He reached a decsion only with MY approval. LE did not have any influence in our final choice. Yes, he was consulted as a "tester." becuase we needed to come up with a definitive solution quickly, and NO OTHER WCC CANDIDATE WAS AVALIBLE.

He posted those tables without our command or say so, of his own free will.

I will say this once more, to sum up.

LE made no decsion. Myself and Ravenspire as Co-hosts made the choice.

Accusations of cheating will be taken very seriously by myself, as would anyone else accused.

Fair enough, EB, and I apologize if aspersions were cast on you or Ravenspire. I did not mean to imply that either of you were operating below-boards.

I seem to recall someone referring to East Spaam's withdrawal (in order to allow Spaam to qualify) as cheating, and that is what I was referring to. However, I cannot recall whether that was posted on-forum or said elsewhere, and if it was said elsewhere, then it was not appropriate to reference it in a post, and I apologize for that.

I was concerned that LE was allowed to sit in on a decision that clearly benefits him; but I accept your statement that it was your decision, not his, and I consider the matter dropped.

I thank you for that, Lemmy. Let me re-iterate to all the people who think I had a fair advantage:
I did not influence, nor had the final say, on the hosts' decision. I was there as a consultant, to clear things up regarding East Spaam, and voice my personal opinons. Perhaps Ravenspire's wording was a bit off.
Ravenspire
12-11-2003, 22:19
OOC: I haven't heard from EB yet, but since it's getting rather late, I'm going to go ahead and post scores. Please keep in mind that Group A's results are provisional until EB weighs in on whether to stick to our original decision or, in light of some of the further points that were brought up, to change to the elimination-tournament method. If EB does not wish to change, then the match involving One Red Dot (winner of the tournament) will be voided, and we will go on with three sides in Group A.

First Round Day 1 Results

Liverpool England 2 1 One Red Dot
Busby 0 0 Kingsford

Bedistan 2 1 TnUI
Gilmeecia 2 2 Snub Nose 38

Lemmitania 2 1 Tanah Burung
Errinundera 1 2 Commerce Heights

Ravenspire 3 1 Kaze Progressa
Svecia 2 4 Squornshelous

Oglethorpia 3 0 Nikea
The Belmore Family 2 1 Audioslavia

Haraki 0 1 Dark Outcasts
Giant Zucchini 3 1 Ariddia

Europa Brittania 3 0 West Arridia
Halfassedstates 1 1 Dennisov

Runaway Moose 2 0 Aquilla
Oddslavo 1 2 Gesamtkuntswerk

Tables, Post-Day 1
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Group A P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Busby (8) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
Kingsford (28) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
One Red Dot (29) 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0

Group B P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Bedistan (3) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Gilmeecia (17) 1 0 1 0 2 2 0 1
Snub Nose 38 (20) 1 0 1 0 2 2 0 1
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0

Group C P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Lemmitania (12) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Commerce Heights (23) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Errinundera (15) 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Tanah Burung (39) 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0

Group D P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Squornshelous (25) 1 1 0 0 4 2 2 3
Ravenspire (9) 1 1 0 0 3 1 2 3
Svecia (16) 1 0 0 1 2 4 -2 0
Kaze Progressa (59) 1 0 0 1 1 3 -2 0

Group E P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Oglethorpia (10) 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 3
The Belmore Family (13) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Audioslavia (18) 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Nikea (44) 1 0 0 1 0 3 -3 0

Group F P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Giant Zucchini (11) 1 1 0 0 3 1 2 3
Dark Outcasts (33) 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 3
Haraki (2) 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0
Ariddia (19) 1 0 0 1 1 3 -2 0

Group G P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Europa Brittania (4) 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 3
Halfassedstates (13) 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Dennisov (22) 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
West Arridia (69) 1 0 0 1 0 3 -3 0

Group H P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Runaway Moose (6) 1 1 0 0 2 0 2 3
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 1 1 0 0 2 1 1 3
Oddslavo (7) 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Aquilla (36) 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0
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Europa Brittania
13-11-2003, 00:48
The groups will remain as they are now after first day scores, with ORD promoted to take the place of E. Spaam.



EB.
Ravenspire
14-11-2003, 05:51
First Round Day 2 Results

Liverpool England 0 2 Kingsford
Busby 3 1 One Red Dot

Bedistan 1 2 Snub Nose 38
Gilmeecia 2 0 TnUI

Lemmitania 1 0 Commerce Heights
Errinundera 1 0 Tanah Burung

Ravenspire 1 3 Squornshelous
Svecia 3 0 Kaze Progressa

Oglethorpia 1 1 Audioslavia
The Belmore Family 1 0 Nikea

Haraki 2 2 Ariddia
Giant Zucchini 3 0 Dark Outcasts

Europa Brittania 2 1 Dennisov
Halfassedstates 4 2 West Arridia

Runaway Moose 0 2 Gesamtkuntswerk
Oddslavo 3 1 Aquilla

Tables, Post-Day 2
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Group A P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Busby (8) 2 1 1 0 3 1 2 4
Kingsford (28) 2 1 1 0 2 0 2 4
Liverpool England (1) 2 1 0 1 2 3 -1 3
One Red Dot (29) 2 0 0 2 2 5 -3 0

Group B P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Gilmeecia (17) 2 1 1 0 4 2 2 4
Snub Nose 38 (20) 2 1 1 0 4 3 1 4
Bedistan (3) 2 1 0 1 3 3 0 3
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 2 0 0 2 1 4 -3 0

Group C P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Lemmitania (12) 2 2 0 0 3 1 2 6
Commerce Heights (23) 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
Errinundera (15) 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
Tanah Burung (39) 2 0 0 2 1 3 -2 0

Group D P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Squornshelous (25) 2 2 0 0 7 3 4 6
Svecia (16) 2 1 0 1 5 4 1 3
Ravenspire (9) 2 1 0 1 4 4 0 3
Kaze Progressa (59) 2 0 0 2 1 6 -5 0

Group E P W D L GF GA GD Pts
The Belmore Family (13) 2 2 0 0 3 1 2 6
Oglethorpia (10) 2 1 1 0 4 1 3 4
Audioslavia (18) 2 0 1 1 2 3 -1 1
Nikea (44) 2 0 0 2 0 4 -4 0

Group F P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Giant Zucchini (11) 2 2 0 0 6 1 5 6
Dark Outcasts (33) 2 1 0 1 1 3 -2 3
Haraki (2) 2 0 1 1 2 3 -1 1
Ariddia (19) 2 0 1 1 3 5 -2 1

Group G P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Europa Brittania (4) 2 2 0 0 5 1 4 6
Halfassedstates (13) 2 1 1 0 5 3 2 4
Dennisov (22) 2 0 1 1 2 3 -1 1
West Arridia (69) 2 0 0 2 2 7 -5 0

Group H P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 2 2 0 0 4 1 3 6
Oddslavo (7) 2 1 0 1 4 3 1 3
Runaway Moose (6) 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
Aquilla (36) 2 0 0 2 1 5 -4 0
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