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New Hyborea expells all elves!

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21-10-2003, 02:10
New Hyborean Emperor on the telescreen:

"My fellow New Hyboreans. As the first citizen of our small and peaceful nation, I have undertaken to expell the elves that have oppressed us so. With aid from our friends in Cyberutopia and Belem, I have been able to break the stranglehold on power that the elves held in this country. The crimes that the elves have committed against the New Hyborean people are self evident and we stand utterly opposed to foreign intervention to restore elven supremacy in New Hyborea!

To the people of countries controlled and manipulated by the elves, I call on you to rise up and crush the elves! Human Unity!"

[Thousand of citizens in the capital of New Hyborea burn elven flags]
Omz222
21-10-2003, 02:13
...Anyways, would you like these elves to be deported?

We can offer deportation for them, if needed.
Eredron
21-10-2003, 02:19
The Holy Republic of Eredron offers asylum to those Elvish refugees leaving New Hyborea.
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:20
We also offer refuge to Elves that have been expelled from this "New Hyborea"
21-10-2003, 02:20
Any assistance you can offer is most appreciated... as long as you are not pro-elven. If you have slave labor camps, I can offer elves to work in them.
21-10-2003, 02:21
Camdean also offers full assitance for removal of elves as they pose no threat to our peacefull ways
The Trojan Empire
21-10-2003, 02:21
Troy offers the elven refugees and deportees new jobs at Trojan military factories for eighty cents per hour. Food and clothing will be prepaid and delivered to the elven families that accept this offer.

Ambassador Peleus
-The Trojan Empire-
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:23
Any assistance you can offer is most appreciated... as long as you are not pro-elven. If you have slave labor camps, I can offer elves to work in them. We offer only to take the Elves into our borders, we don't enslave anyone here.
Omz222
21-10-2003, 02:27
Any assistance you can offer is most appreciated... as long as you are not pro-elven. If you have slave labor camps, I can offer elves to work in them.
We are not anti-elves, but we aren't devoted to elves either.

We treat them like elves.

Anyways, we still stand by our offer. These elves in Omzian nation will be given a small amount of cash to rent a house and work.
The Trojan Empire
21-10-2003, 02:31
OOC: Jesus Christ, Omz. 10,012 posts. :shock: More than all my nations combined.
Omz222
21-10-2003, 02:32
OOC: Jesus Christ, Omz. 10,012 posts. :shock: More than all my nations combined.
OOC: Yep...

What I'm doing over the summer should be obvious now :P
21-10-2003, 02:36
New Hyborean Emperor on the telescreen:

"People of New Hyborea rejoice! Your bithright has been restored to you! The wealth stolen by the foul elves has been confiscated from them and been distributed to the people. Elves will be sold into slavery overseas to the highest bidder. All elvish slaves now have a slaves brand burnt into their forehead that they may be easily recognised.

Again I warn nations that suffer under elven domination that they should not interfere in our affairs. Yesterday we found spies attempting to free elves from a relocation center in the capital. We have not yet been able to determine their nationality as the dead do not speak secrets. Let that stand as a warning!"

[Anti-elven protests rock the capital city]
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:38
New Hyborean Emperor on the telescreen:

"People of New Hyborea rejoice! Your bithright has been restored to you! The wealth stolen by the foul elves has been confiscated from them and been distributed to the people. Elves will be sold into slavery overseas to the highest bidder. All elvish slaves now have a slaves brand burnt into their forehead that they may be easily recognised.

Again I warn nations that suffer under elven domination that they should not interfere in our affairs. Yesterday we found spies attempting to free elves from a relocation center in the capital. We have not yet been able to determine their nationality as the dead do not speak secrets. Let that stand as a warning!"

[Anti-elven protests rock the capital city] You're sad, know that?
Omz222
21-10-2003, 02:39
New Hyborean Emperor on the telescreen:

"People of New Hyborea rejoice! Your bithright has been restored to you! The wealth stolen by the foul elves has been confiscated from them and been distributed to the people. Elves will be sold into slavery overseas to the highest bidder. All elvish slaves now have a slaves brand burnt into their forehead that they may be easily recognised.

Again I warn nations that suffer under elven domination that they should not interfere in our affairs. Yesterday we found spies attempting to free elves from a relocation center in the capital. We have not yet been able to determine their nationality as the dead do not speak secrets. Let that stand as a warning!"

[Anti-elven protests rock the capital city]
Slaves?

Wouldn't they at least should be granted to basic freedoms?

Anyways, we will continue to observe this.
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:40
My Special Forces could make it past any defenses.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 02:44
Very interesting... we will buy these slaves, as many as you can send, and put them to work in camps serving the Empire.

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Ambassador Krall'c
Head of Foriegn Relations and Embassys
Former Head Ambassador
21-10-2003, 02:45
The people of New Hyborea reject intervention. Do you know why the national animal of New Hyborea is the porcupine? It is because each and every citizen is armed. Attacking New Hyborea would be like swallowing a porcupine.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 02:46
The people of New Hyborea reject intervention. Do you know why the national animal of New Hyborea is the porcupine? It is because each and every citizen is armed. Attacking New Hyborea would be like swallowing a porcupine.Um... yeah... gonna sell us the Elves or not?

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Ambassador Krall'c
Head of Foriegn Relations and Embassys
Former Head Ambassador
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:47
The people of New Hyborea reject intervention. Do you know why the national animal of New Hyborea is the porcupine? It is because each and every citizen is armed. Attacking New Hyborea would be like swallowing a porcupine. We've got something to counter that with, something better than most have, never-the-less, we won't send our Special Forces without a really good reason.
21-10-2003, 02:48
Thank you Ambassador Krall'c, We will send an initial shipment of 10,000 elven slaves. For a small extra fee we can also throw in New Hyborean electro-whips that will ensure obedience and hard work.
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:49
Thank you Ambassador Krall'c, We will send an initial shipment of 10,000 elven slaves. For a small extra fee we can also throw in New Hyborean electro-whips that will ensure obedience and hard work. We're thinking of calling Menelmacar, just to see what happens.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 02:49
Offer accepted. The transports are already inroute, with heavy fighter cover, lest they be attacked.

No whips will be needed.
Galdania
21-10-2003, 02:50
Galdania demands that all of New Hyborea's Elves be sent to Galdania, to live as free and independant citizens. If you reject our generous offer, you will be destroyed.
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Milka Dynestravich, Elven Queen of Galdania
Omz222
21-10-2003, 02:50
The people of New Hyborea reject intervention. Do you know why the national animal of New Hyborea is the porcupine? It is because each and every citizen is armed. Attacking New Hyborea would be like swallowing a porcupine.

Omzian State Administration Headquarters
Central Way, East Osaria

"Unjun... I've just received this piece of news... a 12 million people nation with a good economy claiming that if they are attacked, the attacker will be crushed by them!", the often-sarcastic cadre Samun said, to his co-worker.

"Yes, yes, yes... Your point?", the other co-worker said, tired of his fellow coworker's acts.

"No, this is serious. Look at this."

A few silent seconds. then, a sound of a coffee cup smashing on the ground, and a sound of laughter.

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58 minutes later...

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East Osaria Central Hospital

Samun sits by his coworker, on a hospital bed. Tick, tick, tock, tock...

"So, what's Comrade Canrun Panjaf's status?"

"He will be staying in this hospital. We hope for a speedy recovery. Next time, tell him to not laugh to death."
Galdania
21-10-2003, 02:51
Thank you Ambassador Krall'c, We will send an initial shipment of 10,000 elven slaves. For a small extra fee we can also throw in New Hyborean electro-whips that will ensure obedience and hard work. We're thinking of calling Menelmacar, just to see what happens.

Not to mention Neo-Elven Galdania, once again under Milka Dynestravich's control.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 02:51
Thank you Ambassador Krall'c, We will send an initial shipment of 10,000 elven slaves. For a small extra fee we can also throw in New Hyborean electro-whips that will ensure obedience and hard work. We're thinking of calling Menelmacar, just to see what happens.We have no fear of Lady Siri, she will not attack the Empire.
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:52
Galdania demands that all of New Hyborea's Elves be sent to Galdania, to live as free and independant citizens. If you reject our generous offer, you will be destroyed.
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Milka Dynestravich, Elven Queen of Galdania May we assist you in annihilating this nation that enslaves Elves?
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:52
Thank you Ambassador Krall'c, We will send an initial shipment of 10,000 elven slaves. For a small extra fee we can also throw in New Hyborean electro-whips that will ensure obedience and hard work. We're thinking of calling Menelmacar, just to see what happens.We have no fear of Lady Siri, she will not attack the Empire. Mayhap she will, mayhap she won't, one never knows if the right cause is presented.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 02:53
OOC: Please don't quote the large pics, it gets annoying to scroll through after a while. Just stopping it before it starts. ;)
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:54
OOC: Please don't quote the large pics, it gets annoying to scroll through after a while. Just stopping it before it starts. ;) OOC: Sorry *Feels satisfied*
Galdania
21-10-2003, 02:55
Galdania demands that all of New Hyborea's Elves be sent to Galdania, to live as free and independant citizens. If you reject our generous offer, you will be destroyed.
Milka Dynestravich, Elven Queen of Galdania May we assist you in annihilating this nation that enslaves Elves?

Certainly. Her Majesty rules only 10 million Elves, but she commands an army 34 million strong.
21-10-2003, 02:55
Attack if you will. New Hyborea is free and you cannot crush our spirit. Should you attack us, no place shall be safe for you!
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 02:56
Attack if you will. New Hyborea is free and you cannot crush our spirit. Should you attack us, no place shall be safe for you!OOC: Reality check... even I'm a little intimidated by them...
Eredron
21-10-2003, 02:59
The Holy Republic of Eredron offers it's services as mediator between the fair Elvish queen of Galdania, and the nation of New Hyborea, in hopes of staving off a war.
Kecha
21-10-2003, 02:59
Galdania demands that all of New Hyborea's Elves be sent to Galdania, to live as free and independant citizens. If you reject our generous offer, you will be destroyed.
Milka Dynestravich, Elven Queen of Galdania May we assist you in annihilating this nation that enslaves Elves?

Certainly. Her Majesty rules only 10 million Elves, but she commands an army 34 million strong. Nice, we have a MASSIVE Military, all trained so long it's sickening, most of them are Demihumans, allmost none of them are Elves though.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 03:00
The dropships begin to land and armored soldiers pour out, ready to coral the Elves onto the ships. The fighters circle overhead, keeping watch in case a nation chooses to oppose them.
Aquilla
21-10-2003, 03:00
I tried this once and barely escaped from Siri
21-10-2003, 03:01
Ambassador Krall'c, the Emperor of New Hyborea offers a mutual defence pact with your great nation. It is important that we take a stand together against the forces gather against us...

Thorne, envoy of the Emperor
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 03:02
Ambassador Krall'c, the Emperor of New Hyborea offers a mutual defence pact with your great nation. It is important that we take a stand together against the forces gather against us...

Thorne, envoy of the EmperorA mutual defense pact... is not an impossiblity.

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Ambassador Krall'c
Head of Foriegn Relations and Embassys
Former Head Ambassador
21-10-2003, 03:03
Eredron, the issue of the elves is not negotiable. You must take a side.
Kecha
21-10-2003, 03:05
I'm going to call Menelmacar, just to see what happens.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 03:05
The dropships begin to land and armored soldiers pour out, ready to coral the Elves onto the ships. The fighters circle overhead, keeping watch in case a nation chooses to oppose them.OOC: I can't RP the loading of the elves, as they are still your people. Please have them board the transpots or something...
21-10-2003, 03:06
Ambassador Krall'c, what are your conditions? New Hyborea has many natural resources and access to them could be very profitable...
21-10-2003, 03:06
Ambassador Krall'c, what are your conditions? New Hyborea has many natural resources and access to them could be very profitable...
Eredron
21-10-2003, 03:07
Eredron, the issue of the elves is not negotiable. You must take a side.

The nation of Eredron shall give neither side of this issue it's commitment. We will neither impede the travels of the slave ships, nor hasten the armies of Galdania.

Our offer of asylum remains, of course.
Aquilla
21-10-2003, 03:08
I'm going to call Menelmacar, just to see what happens.

Heh, I did the same thing with m1lkz0r
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 03:09
I'm going to call Menelmacar, just to see what happens.Go ahead, she won't mobilise against the Empire though.

I have no conditions at the moment, other than the transfer of the elves to our lands. Conditions can be decided upon at a later date.
Kecha
21-10-2003, 03:09
I'm going to call Menelmacar, just to see what happens.

Heh, I did the same thing with m1lkz0r And what happened?
21-10-2003, 03:12
good enough, Eredron. Just so long as you do not aid my enemies then we can trade in peace. Even now cheap elven labor has produce many goods ready to be sold.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 03:13
The dropships begin to land and armored soldiers pour out, ready to coral the Elves onto the ships. The fighters circle overhead, keeping watch in case a nation chooses to oppose them.OOC: I can't RP the loading of the elves, as they are still your people. Please have them board the transpots or something...Ahem.
21-10-2003, 03:14
I transfer the elven slaves to you post haste, Ambassador Krall'c!

(they board the ships that crimmond sent)
Aquilla
21-10-2003, 03:15
I'm going to call Menelmacar, just to see what happens.

Heh, I did the same thing with m1lkz0r And what happened?

I don't know, I just TG'd him.
Kecha
21-10-2003, 03:15
I'm going to call Menelmacar, just to see what happens.

Heh, I did the same thing with m1lkz0r And what happened?

I don't know, I just TG'd him. Cool, well, this looks like it COULD turn into a classical Clash of the Titans, but the chance is small methinks.
Aquilla
21-10-2003, 03:20
Nearly happened when I did it. But I spoiled it all by turning chicken and fleeing from Melkor's side to Siri's and back and forth again. Besides Melkor had to go on vacation. I learned my lesson. Messing with elves is a serious thing - one way melkor kills you, other way siri does. Currently I'm slightly favoring siri's side, and only tg'd m1lkz0r because I felt like :twisted:
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 03:20
The full dropships liftoff and head towards the homelands, the ships flying as fast as possible away from the nation. Half the fighters go with them. The other half begin strafing the New Hyborean troops/workers/whatever and a message is sent:

Did you really think we are slavers? Our leader is a half-elf. We just joined an interspecies rights alliance. No money is being forwarded to you.

In other words... BURNED! *laughter*

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Larea dinAthos
Head of Interspecies Relations
Quote: "Wars are not started by the military. They are started by bad diplomacy."

My best piece of work yet. He took it hook line and sinker... Ha!

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Ambassador Krall'c
Head of Foriegn Relations and Embassys
Former Head Ambassador
Melkor Unchained
21-10-2003, 03:21
"It has been requested of us to let the Imperium's voice be known on this matter. As a good number of you are obviously aware, the Elven Threat to humanity is certainly nothing anyone wants to ignore. We stand by New Hyborea in that we beleive they have the right to do with their Elven ....'problem' as they see fit.

However...

We do not see it prudent to advertise such practices to the international community. If you're stupid enough to announce to the world that you're selling slaves, you deserve every last bit of holier-than-thou Noldor Beatdown you get."

Melkor, Lord of Darkness
He who Arises in Might
Emperor Eternal of the Imperial Dominion of Melkor Unchained, Lord and Master of Arda
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Aquilla
21-10-2003, 03:22
Hey neat one Crimmond! I thought there was something wrong with you being on the anti elf side, as I recall with my elven conflict you voiced sympathy for the elves. But I think I mistook you for Garisson II.
Kecha
21-10-2003, 03:22
Nearly happened when I did it. But I spoiled it all by turning chicken and fleeing from Melkor's side to Siri's and back and forth again. Besides Melkor had to go on vacation. I learned my lesson. Messing with elves is a serious thing - one way melkor kills you, other way siri does. Currently I'm slightly favoring siri's side, and only tg'd m1lkz0r because I felt like :twisted: I'd side with Siri because Menelmacar and Kecha share a massive orbital station, plus, I just like Siri, she's cool.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 03:26
Hey neat one Crimmond! I thought there was something wrong with you being on the anti elf side, as I recall with my elven conflict you voiced sympathy for the elves. But I think I mistook you for Garisson II.Hee hee hee... I LOVE being devious... he didn't even think to do a background check, I schoose Krall'c for a reason, he looks like he eats Elves for breakfast...
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 03:46
Chancellor Toad, puzzled at the Empire of Crimmond's actions, looks solemnly at the intelligence reports he has been recieving. It appeared as if they had been betrayed... until he read the final intercepted transmission.

"Sir! They had us fooled jolly the whole time!" A man rushed to the leader, who sat in his chair.

After scanning the important lines, Toad released a grin and simply said, "Score one for the UDA."
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 04:01
The Dropships land across the nation and the elves are given preferential treatment, being told they are free and citizens of the Empire, if they so wish. The scars from the brands are to be removed by surgeons and they will be able to live freely.

The Empress made a statement on the subject. "Amazingly, I had no knowledge of this plan, but authorized the dropships and escorts to be launched as a mass invasion and retrieval. I had no reports from Ambassador Krall'c on his conversations and I have to admit... this was a good peice of work.... we lost no ships or soldiers and rescued 10,000 elves from slavery. I say this is grounds to declare another victory over the slavers of the world."

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Ruler of The Empire of Crimmond (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=crimmond)
Crimmond National Factbook (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76921)

OOC: UDA: United in Difference Alliance?
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 04:05
OOC: At the moment... it is United Diversity Alliance. Any name suggestions.... would be accepted... it just... doesn't flow...

United Diver... no.

United in Dive... no.

See?
21-10-2003, 04:07
To crimmond:

The New Hyborean people will never forgive you... but no matter... our elven problem is solved anyway. I hope you choke on your elves.

Thorne, Imperial envoy
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 04:10
To: New Hyboria...

Still want that defense pact? Heh heh...

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Ambassador Krall'c
Head of Foriegn Relations and Embassys
Former Head Ambassador

OOC: I'll think about it tonight and get back to you Mushroomius.
21-10-2003, 04:13
Crimmond:

You have underestimated the New Hyborean people. We are only a small country but we are religious. We have god on our side. Even now New Hyborean citizens are preparing martyr operations against corrupt crimmond.

Thorne, Imperial envoy
Slagkattunger
21-10-2003, 04:17
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Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
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"We are curious as what is your position on the rights of Catpeople and Minotaurians (Minotaur's), to you hate them like you do elves or are you neutral on this matter?"
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 04:20
Ah... the old terrorist threat.

Now it's time for a history lesson.... gather round kids!

The Empire of Crimmond has had sealed borders for about 800 years. there is no tourism industry in or out, as the people have better than first world living conditions and don't like tourists form other nations.

The border is controled by the military and is monitored from orbit and sky 24/7.

No terrorists have been able to get in yet, we doubt yours will.
21-10-2003, 04:23
Catpeople and Minotaurians have never oppressed us. Infact, they were also oppressed by the elves when they controlled our country.

There are very few of either race here, although a number of minotaur's are serving in the army.
21-10-2003, 04:27
To crimmond:

Fear the enemy within! Our brother's in the faith know no borders!
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 04:29
To crimmond:

Fear the enemy within! Our brother's in the faith know no borders!The faith? 95% of the people worship the Primes, a group of powerful beings that worked to build the universe. The rest are athiests. Sorry, care to try for a third guess?
Omz222
21-10-2003, 04:38
Catpeople and Minotaurians have never oppressed us. Infact, they were also oppressed by the elves when they controlled our country.

There are very few of either race here, although a number of minotaur's are serving in the army.
Please explain your claim of "Catpeople and Minotaurians ... oppressed by the elves."

Although there are a few elves locked up in our detention centers for their crimes (theft, misconduct, etc.), we do not see the elf community "misbehave" or "oppress".

However, if that's the thing in your country, we begin to wonder.

Foreign Affairs Ministry
21-10-2003, 04:40
News report:

Agents of New Hyborea blew up a disco in Crimmond late last night. With the borders being sealed for the last 800 years we have no idea how they got in...
Omz222
21-10-2003, 04:41
News report:

Agents of New Hyborea blew up a disco in Crimmond late last night. With the borders being sealed for the last 800 years we have no idea how they got in...

We would advise New Hyborea to cease any terrorist actions against any countries. Although this is none of our business, but we must advise New Hyborea that this isn't a wise thing to do.

Our leaders placed a bet on your life already: the result? Umm... death.

Foreign Affairs Ministry
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 04:44
News report:

Agents of New Hyborea blew up a disco in Crimmond late last night. With the borders being sealed for the last 800 years we have no idea how they got in...OOC: Although I am tempted to ask what the hell a disco is doing in my nation, why you god modded and stated a loss for me and ignored the proper RP standards... I will accept this.

IC:

You're treadin' on thin ice fool!

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Mr. T
Four Star General
Military Advisor
Crimmond Ground Forces (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79172)
Quote: "Mess with the Empire and you're goin' down sucka!"
21-10-2003, 04:45
Omz222, havent you ever notice that elves seem to be in all the positions of power and yet claim to be oppressed?

Before our revolution, the elves comprised only 3% of the population yet had 90% of the wealth. They controlled all the media and the government.

They hoarded the wealth to themselves and even talented humans. catpeople and minotaur's could not realch high positions in business or government.

Can you see why we had to deal with this problem?
21-10-2003, 04:50
(I godmodded but had a reason)

News report:

Some of the elves that crimmond took in as refugees have turned out to be terrorists from New Hyborea. Surgically alterted to appear as elves, many were infact New Hyborean religious fanatics...

They seem to have set up cells around the country...
Melkor Unchained
21-10-2003, 04:50
News report:

Agents of New Hyborea blew up a disco in Crimmond late last night. With the borders being sealed for the last 800 years we have no idea how they got in...OOC: Although I am tempted to ask what the hell a disco is doing in my nation, why you god modded and stated a loss for me and ignored the proper RP standards... I will accept this.

IC:

You're treadin' on thin ice fool!

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Mr. T
Four Star General
Military Advisor
Crimmond Ground Forces (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79172)
Quote: "Mess with the Empire and you're goin' down sucka!"

[ooc: I hate to nitpick, but you sort of did the same thing, assuming your earlier operation encountered no resistance at all...]
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 05:00
OOC: Melkor, I never said that the ships took off and arrived at my nation in the same post. He had ample time to post that he sent up interceptors and such, he chose not to.

Good strategy, but... the elves are still being processed and haven't been released from the military bases yet. I don't just drop them off and say, 'Okay, you're free. Have fun and don't forget to write!' They go through fulkl exams, including genetic testing, as all my citizens do regularly, to see if there are any genetic illnesses that could be introuduced into the populace.
Canada-Germany
21-10-2003, 05:03
OOC: so then, couldn't these "elves" just be carrying bombs with them and blow up your military base?
21-10-2003, 05:04
Unfortunately you choose to give them special treatment in your earlier post, which means they werent treated like prisoners and they should have been able to make a get away.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 05:11
Unfortunately you choose to give them special treatment in your earlier post, which means they werent treated like prisoners and they should have been able to make a get away.Preferential treatment, they get a huge redcarpet, the best food and a nice place to sleep, under the circumstances. I know where they are at all times through bioscanners and the bases are well away from cities.

Blow up the bases... possible, but they'd only get a few bombs off then the sensors look for whatever type of bombs are going off and the gaurds pick the terrorists off.
21-10-2003, 05:17
Our terrorist stike at the people, not at military bases.
Canada-Germany
21-10-2003, 05:18
Our terrorist stike at the people, not at military bases.

OOC: my god man, do you want to do him any damage at all? Say each "elf" had a dead man's switch on himself so that, until he could find a good target, if he died, the bomb would go off anyways. :lol:
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 05:19
Our terrorist stike at the people, not at military bases.So... what does that mean, they wouldn't blow up the bombs on the bases?

If that's so... the bombs would be found, the faux-elves arrested and tried with attempted international terrorism, then be executed.
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 05:20
Omz222, havent you ever notice that elves seem to be in all the positions of power and yet claim to be oppressed?

Before our revolution, the elves comprised only 3% of the population yet had 90% of the wealth. They controlled all the media and the government.

They hoarded the wealth to themselves and even talented humans. catpeople and minotaur's could not realch high positions in business or government.

Can you see why we had to deal with this problem?

Soo... like the most infamous fascist state of 1945... you chose to blame the Elves because unlike Minotaurs and Catpeople, they try to work rather than being military Grunts (Minotaurs) or Lap Dancers (Catpeople).

We fail to understand your logic... as it was the very same attempt at a scapegoat that claimed 10 million lives in the Second War.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 05:20
Our terrorist stike at the people, not at military bases.

OOC: my god man, do you want to do him any damage at all? Say each "elf" had a dead man's switch on himself so that, until he could find a good target, if he died, the bomb would go off anyways. :lol: :shock: DON'T GIVE HIM IDEAS!!!!
Canada-Germany
21-10-2003, 05:22
Our terrorist stike at the people, not at military bases.

OOC: my god man, do you want to do him any damage at all? Say each "elf" had a dead man's switch on himself so that, until he could find a good target, if he died, the bomb would go off anyways. :lol: :shock: DON'T GIVE HIM IDEAS!!!!

OOC: heh heh, sorry, I almost always root for the underdog, ^^;;
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 05:23
Lap Dancers (Catpeople).
Oooo...that isn't going to go over well with Slagkattunger. Not very open minded, considering the alliance you just started too...
21-10-2003, 05:25
Crimmond: You can RP that any way you want.

Just know they will bite off their own toungues and choke on their own boold before submitting to capture.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 05:27
Crimmond: You can RP that any way you want.

Just know they will bite off their own toungues and choke on their own boold before submitting to capture.Ouchies... well, they are going to be killed anyway, we just can't execute them without a trial, is all. Civil Rights level and all, you understand.
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 05:28
Lap Dancers (Catpeople).
Oooo...that isn't going to go over well with Slagkattunger. Not very open minded, considering the alliance you just started too...

I'm well aware of Slagkattunger... and I have nothing against Catpeople. I was simply attempting to make a point to New Hyborea (And yes, I was comparing his nation's policies to Nazi Germany).

Again, our nation agrees totally with the principles of diversity, which is why we value ourselves as a "Melting Pot" nation. I'm not one to be stereotypical, but Hyborea's statement was almost a mirror image of the "reasons" that "justified" the Holocaust.

Mind you, justified and reasons are in quotations to emphasize the point that I abhorrently disagree with pro-racist policies.
Canada-Germany
21-10-2003, 05:31
Lap Dancers (Catpeople).
Oooo...that isn't going to go over well with Slagkattunger. Not very open minded, considering the alliance you just started too...

I'm well aware of Slagkattunger... and I have nothing against Catpeople. I was simply attempting to make a point to New Hyborea (And yes, I was comparing his nation's policies to Nazi Germany).

Again, our nation agrees totally with the principles of diversity, which is why we value ourselves as a "Melting Pot" nation. I'm not one to be stereotypical, but Hyborea's statement was almost a mirror image of the "reasons" that "justified" the Holocaust.

Mind you, justified and reasons are in quotations to emphasize the point that I abhorrently disagree with pro-racist policies.

In the bold is a Oxymoronic statement, ^^;; Cause, well, when you take a whole bunch of different things and drop them into a melting pot, what happens? they all melt together and become the same thing. Perhaps a better world for it would be "Patch work" nation?
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 05:33
Lap Dancers (Catpeople).
Oooo...that isn't going to go over well with Slagkattunger. Not very open minded, considering the alliance you just started too...

I'm well aware of Slagkattunger... and I have nothing against Catpeople. I was simply attempting to make a point to New Hyborea (And yes, I was comparing his nation's policies to Nazi Germany).

Again, our nation agrees totally with the principles of diversity, which is why we value ourselves as a "Melting Pot" nation. I'm not one to be stereotypical, but Hyborea's statement was almost a mirror image of the "reasons" that "justified" the Holocaust.

Mind you, justified and reasons are in quotations to emphasize the point that I abhorrently disagree with pro-racist policies.

In the bold is a Oxymoronic statement, ^^;;How so? They mean the same thing. An oxy-moronic statement is like the ever poular 'Military Intelligence', opposites.
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 05:33
Erm... how so?

Melting Pot (term given to America)= Diverse population (fact of America)

What are you talking about?
Canada-Germany
21-10-2003, 05:34
In the bold is a Oxymoronic statement, ^^;; Cause, well, when you take a whole bunch of different things and drop them into a melting pot, what happens? they all melt together and become the same thing. Perhaps a better world for it would be "Patch work" nation?
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 05:34
In the bold is a Oxymoronic statement, ^^;; Cause, well, when you take a whole bunch of different things and drop them into a melting pot, what happens? they all melt together and become the same thing. Perhaps a better world for it would be "Patch work" nation?Not so. Look at America.
21-10-2003, 05:35
New Hyborean Emperor on the telescreen:

"The Heretics of Crimmond will pay for their trechery! Because they massacred our troops in the capitals airport, the remaining elves will be made to suffer!"

The camera zooms out to reveal that the Emperor is on top of a ziggurat with two followers holding a dazed elf. The Emperor drives a curly ceremonial knife into the elf's chest and rips out the elf's still beating heart whilst the elf roars a death-scream.

The Emperor then feeds the heart into a dragon mouth representation of New Hyborea's god.

"This is what awaits our enemies..."
Canada-Germany
21-10-2003, 05:37
The Reason they call America a "melting pot" is because a lot of the times, when people go there, they do tend to lose some of their ethnicity and become.. well.. American. This is because America has a strong sense of national identity.

Where as a place like Canada, with a less defined sense of national identity, would be a "patch-work" nation.
Slagkattunger
21-10-2003, 05:41
ooc:- Remember not to hijack...if you want to discuss that further try General forum eh? Also I'm not going to kick up about the lap dancers (as that does not = sex workers)...since it's obvious that alot of humans & other male races find catpeople very very sexy.
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 05:44
New Hyborean Emperor on the telescreen:

"The Heretics of Crimmond will pay for their trechery! Because they massacred our troops in the capitals airport, the remaining elves will be made to suffer!"

The camera zooms out to reveal that the Emperor is on top of a ziggurat with two followers holding a dazed elf. The Emperor drives a curly ceremonial knife into the elf's chest and rips out the elf's still beating heart whilst the elf roars a death-scream.

The Emperor then feeds the heart into a dragon mouth representation of New Hyborea's god.

"This is what awaits our enemies..."

If that is the case, I should warn you that torture is a humanitarian violation, thus:
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:BAq5jNeQ0HoC:www.connect.net/tlturner/xb-70.jpg + http://www.af.mil/photos/images/030311-D-9085M-007-001.jpg= What awaits our enemies.

Sit on this one for awhile.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 05:44
Hmmm.... this isn't good. Well, at least we got about 10,000 out. Should we advise a military strike?

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Let the other nations deal with them militarily. We are not at fault. Soon the terrorists will be dead and the elves integrated into the populace, then all will be well. As it has been in the Empire for millennia.

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They are fools and they will be dealt with... with or without further intervetion on our part. Let us concentrate on more pressing matters.

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Canada-Germany
21-10-2003, 05:44
ooc:- Remember not to hijack...if you want to discuss that further try General forum eh? Also I'm not going to kick up about the lap dancers (as that does not = sex workers)...since it's obvious that alot of humans & other male races find catpeople very very sexy.

OOC: whoop, ^^;; sorry.
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 05:47
ooc:- Remember not to hijack...if you want to discuss that further try General forum eh? Also I'm not going to kick up about the lap dancers (as that does not = sex workers)...since it's obvious that alot of humans & other male races find catpeople very very sexy.

OOC: Again... it was only used to iterate a point... and I hate stereotyping. My second post was meant to convey this...
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 05:52
Hmmm.... this isn't good. Well, at least we got about 10,000 out. Should we advise a military strike?

I get a little uneasy about attacking nations ever since the Mushroomius-Xolistan War, because as we were about to mount the main invasion of the 5,000,000 population nation, other *bigger* nations, for some reason came to his aid.

Among these were Aequatio, Sniper Country and a few others I can't be bothered to name. Regardless, myself and my one ally were quite succinctly outnumbered.

And outpowered.

So, it is not difficult to understand why I'm hesitant before acquiring prior intelligence.

OOC: I could just use the fabled Mushroom Strike of Death (50 B-70 Valkyries, 2 MOABS each), but that would make me as inhumane as they... and it would be flat out uncalled for. And I'm tired... soo... if we DO go to war... let it be tomorrow.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 06:00
OOC: They were dicussing whether the Empire should go to war reall, not the Alliance, but you are right. Let the world wait until we get some sleep.

Also, that sounds like my fleet of modified B-52s dropping Daisy Cutters on the capitals of th en00bs I was annexing. Ah, memories...

IC: I quite agree. Intellegence is required if we were to go to war. But I do not belive it will be needed as all the anti-elf nations know better than to mess with stuff like this because of the military reaction.
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 06:02
OOC: They were dicussing whether the Empire should go to war reall, not the Alliance, but you are right. Let the world wait until we get some sleep.

IC: I quite agree. Intellegence is required if we were to go to war. But I do not belive it will be needed as all the anti-elf nations know better than to mess with stuff like this because of the military reaction.

I will trust your judgement implicitly... simply because I haven't the experience you have.
21-10-2003, 06:37
In our borders, we will treat the elves in whatever manner we see fit.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 08:24
In our borders, we will treat the elves in whatever manner we see fit.Until the Pro-Elvin nation lay the Smack-Down on you.
The Gulf States
21-10-2003, 08:36
If you still have elves (I"m not reading thru 6 pages), I'll take em. Then convert them to suicide bombers. Then use them to declare war on your country as punishment for throwing them out.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 15:38
If you still have elves (I"m not reading thru 6 pages), I'll take em. Then convert them to suicide bombers. Then use them to declare war on your country as punishment for throwing them out.He has a lot left, I relly suggest reading the first three pages at least, I burned him good and got 10,000 out.
The Gulf States
21-10-2003, 19:21
Alright, if you're still interested in giving out some elves, I'll take some.

We'll send over the planes and boats.
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 19:38
All the pseudo-elves have been captured and are being tried for crimes against sentients. Their guilt is obvious and little deliberation is needed.

If they plead guilty, they will be given a quick, painless death and their bodies returned to New Hyborea for proper burial.

If they deny the charges, they will be killed in the most painful way we have, a disrupter blast to the stomach, resulting in completly ripping apart the bodies atomic struture. While quick, the screams from the past prisoners show it is extremely painful.
21-10-2003, 19:53
i will payfor them. I would love the elves.

Commander joshua
Menelmacar
21-10-2003, 20:31
If you still have elves (I"m not reading thru 6 pages), I'll take em. Then convert them to suicide bombers. Then use them to declare war on your country as punishment for throwing them out.
TGS: I should note making suicide bombers out of a species of immortals who love just about everything about life is... difficult at best.

Crimmond: Once you've finished checking the Elves, we would greatly appreciate if you would give them the option of coming to Menelmacar if they so desire. We thank you greatly for your aid in this matter.

New Hyborea: While we understand the problems relating to your past, your... choice of methods in dealing with the problem are, quite frankly, unacceptable. We will not tolerate any further such actions - ever. While we are a peaceful people, and wish not to go to war, your country is hereby placed under Interdiction - that is, a blockade of all travel and trade, seizure of any assets located in Menelmacar, and jamming of all communications - until the following requirements are met:

1. While we will not demand you return all your former Elven citizens' wealth to them - 90% of the economy is a rather large check to write - we will demand that their fair share be returned to them so they may start a new life. This would be equal to 3%, as befitting their portion of your population. These are damages relating to economic losses.

2. You will provide additional punitive damages equal to a further 2% of your nation's wealth, for your heinous treatment of the Elves.

3. You will issue a formal apology to the Elven people and pledge never to move against Elven nations or peoples in the future.

4. You will, in perpetuity, limit your military to 300,000 troops, and will never develop weapons of mass destruction, defined as being any weapon of a nuclear, chemical, biological, antimatter, or nanotechnological nature, and will not develop orbital weaponry or military starships.

5. You will hand over to Menelmacari custody any and all military or government officials who had any hand in the planning, approval, or implementation of your plans to enslave your Elven citizens. This includes the Emperor.

The Interdiction will begin in twelve hours, and will be enforced by the Fourth Menelmacari Imperial Gravitic Battle Fleet.

OOC: Sniper Country means nothing to me - they ignore me, so I ignore them. Simple.

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The Gulf States
21-10-2003, 20:37
If you still have elves (I"m not reading thru 6 pages), I'll take em. Then convert them to suicide bombers. Then use them to declare war on your country as punishment for throwing them out.
TGS: I should note making suicide bombers out of a species of immortals who love just about everything about life is... difficult at best.

Hum, now how is it nobody told me about this? I just figured someone decided to make up all these non-human species for whatever.

Oh well, we can brainwash condemned prisoners instead...
Crimmond
21-10-2003, 20:41
They will be free to go wherever they choose, or stay in the Empire itself. I will make sure they know of your offer, though.

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Kecha
21-10-2003, 20:57
Menelmacar: You tell 'em Siri! the only objection I've got is to #4, seems a bit harsh to me, but heck, not my problem.
Menelmacar
21-10-2003, 21:01
The purpose of point #4 is to ensure they are never again a threat to our people.

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Kecha
21-10-2003, 21:04
The purpose of point #4 is to ensure they are never again a threat to our people. True, but without an expiration date on it it can be seen as a way to weaken them for........future purposes, to put it cleanly.
Menelmacar
21-10-2003, 21:08
Bah, if we were going to invade we'd have done it already. Continued belligerence on their part, however, will result in invasion.

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Kecha
21-10-2003, 21:09
Bah, if we were going to invade we'd have done it already. Continued belligerence on their part, however, will result in invasion. But will you put d ate on the #4 demand after which it shall expire?
Menelmacar
21-10-2003, 21:11
That depends on how well they respond to the other requirements.

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Kecha
21-10-2003, 21:53
That depends on how well they respond to the other requirements. So long as you're fair on the issue you've no more complaints from this corner.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:09
My god, you're willing to inforce the rights of a small minority of people whom have historicly, in that country anyways, treated the rest of the population like slime?

Also, you'd be willing to kill large amounts of Homo-sapian Citizens, whom are by far, probably more innocent then any of the elves that have been mentioned in the country's history, just to inforce your will?
Mushroomius
22-10-2003, 05:12
As part of the Coalition of Universal Rights, I, at least, am condemned to defend the rights of any small minority group. The Coalition was founded upon defending such rights.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:13
As part of the Coalition of Universal Rights, I, at least, am condemned to defend the rights of any small minority group. The Coalition was founded upon defending such rights.

You would defend the rights of a minority group at the expence of a majority group's rights?
Mushroomius
22-10-2003, 05:14
As part of the Coalition of Universal Rights, I, at least, am condemned to defend the rights of any small minority group. The Coalition was founded upon defending such rights.

You would defend the rights of a minority group at the expence of a majority group's rights?

Why does a majority group have the right to infringe on a minority group?
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 05:14
As part of the Coalition of Universal Rights, I, at least, am condemned to defend the rights of any small minority group. The Coalition was founded upon defending such rights.

You would defend the rights of a minority group at the expence of a majority group's rights?The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one?

Is that what you are saying here?
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:17
As part of the Coalition of Universal Rights, I, at least, am condemned to defend the rights of any small minority group. The Coalition was founded upon defending such rights.

You would defend the rights of a minority group at the expence of a majority group's rights?

Why does a majority group have the right to infringe on a minority group?

why does the minority group have the right to infringe apon the rights of the majority group?
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:17
As part of the Coalition of Universal Rights, I, at least, am condemned to defend the rights of any small minority group. The Coalition was founded upon defending such rights.

You would defend the rights of a minority group at the expence of a majority group's rights?The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one?

Is that what you are saying here?

Actually, no, what I am saying is, why must the rights of the minority overweigh the rights of the majority, instead of being equal to?
22-10-2003, 05:21
Thank you Canada-Germany,

Yes the Homo-sapiens of New Hyborea have long been oppressed. Before the revolution, the elves were attempting to murder the man who became the current Emperor. Elves lived in Palaces whilst humans were mere servants. A human could never assume a position of power because the elves would not allow it.

The coalition is a reactionary organization representing elven interests. Right or wrong matters nothing to them.
22-10-2003, 05:21
New Hyborea, would you be willing to sell us 100,000 elves?
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:22
Thank you Canada-Germany,

Yes the Homo-sapiens of New Hyborea have long been oppressed. Before the revolution, the elves were attempting to murder the man who became the current Emperor. Elves lived in Palaces whilst humans were mere servants. A human could never assume a position of power because the elves would not allow it.

The coalition is a reactionary organization representing elven interests. Right or wrong matters nothing to them.

*cough* of course, selling the Elves off to slavery wasn't exactly the best idea either, ^^;;
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 05:23
Damn, I had a whole speach prepared... noone EVER says yes! Grrr....

They should not outweigh them. They should equal it, but the many are opressing the few and there cannot be equality while that is happening.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:24
Damn, I had a whole speach prepared... noone EVER says yes! Grrr....

They should not outweigh them. They should equal it, but the many are opressing the few and there cannot be equality while that is happening.

And while the few were oppressing the many? Was that right? Was that equal?
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 05:24
Thank you Canada-Germany,

Yes the Homo-sapiens of New Hyborea have long been oppressed. Before the revolution, the elves were attempting to murder the man who became the current Emperor. Elves lived in Palaces whilst humans were mere servants. A human could never assume a position of power because the elves would not allow it.

The coalition is a reactionary organization representing elven interests. Right or wrong matters nothing to them.Then the elves were in the wrong. But this is too drastic a reaction. Two wrongs never make a right, they just make more wrongs...
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 05:25
Damn, I had a whole speach prepared... noone EVER says yes! Grrr....

They should not outweigh them. They should equal it, but the many are opressing the few and there cannot be equality while that is happening.

And while the few were oppressing the many? Was that right? Was that equal?No. They should not have done what they did, but mass slavery is the opposite extreme, not the opressed are the oppresors.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:26
Thank you Canada-Germany,

Yes the Homo-sapiens of New Hyborea have long been oppressed. Before the revolution, the elves were attempting to murder the man who became the current Emperor. Elves lived in Palaces whilst humans were mere servants. A human could never assume a position of power because the elves would not allow it.

The coalition is a reactionary organization representing elven interests. Right or wrong matters nothing to them.Then the elves were in the wrong. But this is too drastic a reaction. Two wrongs never make a right, they just make more wrongs...

Selling them into slavery? Perhaps. Shipping them off so they can never harm the nation again? Absolutly not.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:26
Damn, I had a whole speach prepared... noone EVER says yes! Grrr....

They should not outweigh them. They should equal it, but the many are opressing the few and there cannot be equality while that is happening.

And while the few were oppressing the many? Was that right? Was that equal?No. They should not have done what they did, but mass slavery is the opposite extreme, not the opressed are the oppresors.

*cough* didn't he just get rid of the elves by selling them into slavery? So... they arn't really the opressers, technicly.
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 05:31
He captured them, imprisoned them, disfigured them... all for being elves and for the purpose of selling them into slavery. That doesn't sound very equal to me...
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:33
He captured them, imprisoned them, disfigured them... all for being elves and for the purpose of selling them into slavery. That doesn't sound very equal to me...

Actually... I think he did this cause they were at one point, doing the exact same thing to the rest of the population, not cause they were elves...

The fact that they were elves matters only to those screaming "Minority Rights" and "Elven Rights!"

Were these beings humans, there would be no comment.
22-10-2003, 05:34
Slavery is illegal in New Hyborea. We did wish that the elves might experience hardship, but that was because the people were so angry. Infact, we had to remove the elves from the country because the hundreds of thousands of political prisoners we released from the prisons wanted to massacre the elves.

We will consider the deportation of elves to a country that will not oppress them. HOWEVER, we demand that the elves once gone are not permitted to agitate against the rightful govenment of New Hyborea.

We seek sincere offers.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:36
We wish to take these elves off your hands. If you would give us all their records, we will judge them according to C-G law and deal with them fairly.
22-10-2003, 05:39
OK... but we warn you that many are war criminals. They may try to overthrow your government. We have one hundred and ten thousand elves. They ruled over our small population of 12 million like despots.

You are most welcome to them. Send you transports to pick them up if you have use for them.
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 05:41
I see... I belive Menelmacar might go easy on you if you shipped a good chuck of the population to them. A peace offereing, if you will, before anything happens.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:43
Do not worry, our security arrangements are... suited for those who try and breakfree.

Remember, when our ships pull into port, be sure to send all profiles unaltered.

3 Trimarian Cargo ships being prep-ed for the trip. They will arive in your country in 10 NS days (10 RL Minutes.)
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:44
As well, our ships will drop off 100 investigaters to check any facts that we deem... harder to believe.
22-10-2003, 05:45
New Hyborea, would you be willing to sell us 100,000 elves?Ahem
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:47
I believe that he is sending the elves to me.
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 05:49
[size=29]New Hyborea, would you be willing to sell us 100,000 elves?[size]AhemDo not be so... obvious. You are asking to get attacked with such a statement. I was afraid I'd get a war in my lap before my scam could be completed.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:51
The ships have arrived in your ports. Would you like to proceed with the transfering of prisoners?
22-10-2003, 05:52
I believe that he is sending the elves to me.Well, I posted my request on page 7.Crimmond, you actually think I don't know about that?
22-10-2003, 05:55
Thank you for your kind offer olympus.

Unfortunately New Hyborea has been under extreme threat from the pro elvish faction and has decided to resettle the elves peacefully.
22-10-2003, 05:57
All the records are unaltered and in the original. You shouldnt have worried about that anyway since the elves had fobidden us to learn to read and write since humans were merely the servant class.

The elves are ready when you are.
22-10-2003, 05:58
The elves are put abord your ships in our newly reconstucted airport (the original was serverly damaged by Crimmond).
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 05:59
We are glad to see that you have choosen peacful relocation. It is the best option for both sides.

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Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 05:59
The inspecters are dropped off, and the elves are slowly loaded.

One or two try and escape. After warnings are shouted, they are shot in the legs and dragged back into the ship.

Very soon, the 3 Trimarian ships are pulling away from the port.
22-10-2003, 06:01
We are confident that the elven war criminals will be subjected to the fair justice of CG
22-10-2003, 06:02
We send up some SU-47's to make sure none attack you on your way.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:03
An hour into the trip back to C-G

"Alert Alert. All hands. This is the captain, the elven forces on decks 9 through 12 have attempted a massive breakout. Fierce fighting is taking place. All hands, if you see an elf... detain it alive if possible. If not, kill it and log their existance so we can find out who they are."
22-10-2003, 06:06
We only have Russian made SU-47 jets and cannot assist you. However, if the mutineers take over the ship we can shoot them out of the sky.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:07
Three Hours into the Trip Back to C-G

*Message to C-G from C-SOTL Tri-5 (Cargo - Ship of the Line Trimairian 5)*

We have suffered a massive internal strike by the elven prisoners. We have brought it undercontrol, but there is still fighting occuring on deck 10. The remaining resistance has blockaded themselves into several large rooms along the deck. We are currently discussing ways in which to deal with them.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:09
Three hours Fourty Five Minutes into the Trip back to C-G

*Deck 10*

"How the HELL was I suppose to know that Sleeping gas doesn't work on Elves?"
22-10-2003, 06:10
See! This is how the elves repay humanitarian gestures! What say you now, Crimmond?
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:10
Four hours into the Trip back to C-G

*Message to New Hyborea fighters*

We appreshiate your offer of help, however, we have the fighting under control.
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 06:10
New Hyborea: You have yet to respond to our demands one way or the other. The Interdiction is now in place.

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Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:11
New Hyborea: You have yet to respond to our demands one way or the other. The Interdiction is now in place.

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Menelmacar - The elves are now in our Custody. If you have any requests for them, address your conserns to us.
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 06:13
See! This is how the elves repay humanitarian gestures! What say you now, Crimmond?What I have been saying.... there have been too many wrongs here and now there can be no right.

The elves were in power, now they are not and are on theri way to an uncertian future where they will be put on trial for things that were not illegal....

Wouldn't you want to escape?
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:13
Five Hours into the Trip back to C-G

*Message to C-G from C-SOTL Tri-5*

After several attempts to use non-lethal force on the elves in question, we are running out of options.
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 06:14
Canada-Germany: We would like them handed over to us to be relocated among their people, and tried if necessary. The list of those that were 'war criminals' and the evidence against them, we would like New Hyborea to provide to us; those who have dealt with us in the past, like Crimmond, can vouch that our laws are fair and just.

I understand you are having some problems aboard your vessel. I can dispatch a ship from the Fourth Fleet to pick up your passengers.

The other demands are specific to New Hyborea and will remain in place.

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Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:14
See! This is how the elves repay humanitarian gestures! What say you now, Crimmond?What I have been saying.... there have been too many wrongs here and now there can be no right.

The elves were in power, now they are not and are on theri way to an uncertian future where they will be put on trial for things that were not illegal....

Wouldn't you want to escape?

Well, technicly, they are gonna face a fair trial. We have assured them of that... or at least, tried to, lol.

And given our own track record with elves, they don't really have much to be afraid of if they are innocent.
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 06:16
They may be more comfortable - and peacable - among their own kind.

I can dispatch a ship from the Fourth Fleet - a heavy transport - to pick up your passengers.

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Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:16
Canada-Germany: We would like them handed over to us to be relocated among their people, and tried if necessary. The list of those that were 'war criminals' and the evidence against them, we would like New Hyborea to provide to us; those who have dealt with us in the past, like Crimmond, can vouch that our laws are fair and just.

The other demands are specific to New Hyborea and will remain in place.

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Unfortunetly, that can not be done. As much as we are sure that your country and judicial system is a fair one, the prisoners are in our custody. We will try them according to C-G law. The ones that are innocent will go free and given enough money to start a new life where ever they like.

Those that are guilty will be delt with.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:17
We will however, if you ask, give you our findings on the guilty ones to check over if you wish.
22-10-2003, 06:18
The documents on war criminals I will provide (electronic transfer completed). But the elves have been lawfully tranferred to CG. He has promised a fair trial. Punishment for the Guilty and freedom for the Innocent. However, the have compounded their problems by attacking the crew on the CG ships.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:20
Six Hours, 30 minutes into the Trip back to C-G

*Message From Deck one to Deck 9.*

Last try. Those suckers have to breath too. We will be pumping Carbon monoxide into the rooms of Deck 10 that are currently occupied by Elven resistors.

Hopefully, this will incapasitate them long enough for our teams to go in and take them out.
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 06:22
We will however, if you ask, give you our findings on the guilty ones to check over if you wish.
Please do. (And carbon monoxide would kill, just like it would with humans. You really don't wanna do that.)

The documents on war criminals I will provide (electronic transfer completed). But the elves have been lawfully tranferred to CG. He has promised a fair trial. Punishment for the Guilty and freedom for the Innocent. However, the have compounded their problems by attacking the crew on the CG ships.
Very well, and the transfer was received. We still await your response to the other 'requirements', although we are now willing to add an expiry date of five years to item four.

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Crimmond
22-10-2003, 06:24
*steps back and lets Menelmacar take over* I've got my hands full dealing with the 10,000 I already have. Oh yeah... I forgot to update that.

IC: The terrorists that pleaded guilty were executed via leathal injection, the ones that denied the terrorism charge were shot with disrupters. The bodies of the dead will be shipped to New Hyboria for proper burial.

80% of the elves have stated wishes to stay in the empire and are being dispersed throughout it's three Earth provinces of Crimmond, -Needles- and Quarell, some are also being sent of their own accord to Mars, to live in the Mizar 3 province.

The other 20% are still deciding on whether to go to the other Coalition nations or to other elf friendly nations.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:26
We will however, if you ask, give you our findings on the guilty ones to check over if you wish.
Please do. (And carbon monoxide would kill, just like it would with humans. You really don't wanna do that.)

The documents on war criminals I will provide (electronic transfer completed). But the elves have been lawfully tranferred to CG. He has promised a fair trial. Punishment for the Guilty and freedom for the Innocent. However, the have compounded their problems by attacking the crew on the CG ships.
Very well, and the transfer was received. We still await your response to the other 'requirements', although we are now willing to add an expiry date of five years to item four.

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Carbon monoxide will knock out before it will kill. And well, we won't be leaving them in there for THAT long.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:32
7 Hours into the Trip back to C-G

*Message to C-G from C-SOTL Tri-6*

The Carbon Monoxide worked. Good thing too. After that we were just considering burning them out. Perliminary tally of Cas.

53 Infantrymen KIA, 25 WIA
68 Ship Personnel KIA, 10 WIA

7,302 Prisoners KIA, 4,292 WIA
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 06:35
Seven thousand dead? Geez, the Russians could have handled it more cleanly.

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Mushroomius
22-10-2003, 06:37
The documents on war criminals I will provide (electronic transfer completed). But the elves have been lawfully tranferred to CG. He has promised a fair trial. Punishment for the Guilty and freedom for the Innocent. However, the have compounded their problems by attacking the crew on the CG ships.

So as I understand it, Every one of your Elven citizens is an undesireable in society?
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:38
Seven thousand dead? Geez, the Russians could have handled it more cleanly.

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Lol, well, there WERE quite a few Elves that joined the impromptue rebellion, and... they did fight pretty damn hard. They also didn't surrender so... C-G's hand was kinda... forced.
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 06:39
You could have just handed them over to us. I remain convinced it would have calmed them.

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Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:41
We might have considered that, if your invitation has arrived before the fighting broke out. However, our citizens are not too happy with the beligerants right now, so, that suggestion is not a viable one at the moment.
22-10-2003, 06:43
Response to Menelmacar's demands:

1. While we will not demand you return all your former Elven citizens' wealth to them - 90% of the economy is a rather large check to write - we will demand that their fair share be returned to them so they may start a new life. This would be equal to 3%, as befitting their portion of your population. These are damages relating to economic losses.

(We agree. We will place the funds in a bank account to be administered by the UN. This is not an admission of wrong doing)

2. You will provide additional punitive damages equal to a further 2% of your nation's wealth, for your heinous treatment of the Elves.

(Absolutely not. We will not pay the oppressors extra money. Maybe they should give us back the 3% we will give them in return for the decades they mistreated us)

3. You will issue a formal apology to the Elven people and pledge never to move against Elven nations or peoples in the future.

(Again no. No apology for self defence)

4. You will, in perpetuity, limit your military to 300,000 troops, and will never develop weapons of mass destruction, defined as being any weapon of a nuclear, chemical, biological, antimatter, or nanotechnological nature, and will not develop orbital weaponry or military starships.

(Although we lack the ability to produce such weapons and raise such a large army, we reject it on principle. We are a sovereign nation. But if you agree to the same, then we will also do it)

5. You will hand over to Menelmacari custody any and all military or government officials who had any hand in the planning, approval, or implementation of your plans to enslave your Elven citizens. This includes the Emperor.

(No. We will not turn over our freedom fighters to your "justice"
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 06:46
Response to Menelmacar's demands:

1. While we will not demand you return all your former Elven citizens' wealth to them - 90% of the economy is a rather large check to write - we will demand that their fair share be returned to them so they may start a new life. This would be equal to 3%, as befitting their portion of your population. These are damages relating to economic losses.

(We agree. We will place the funds in a bank account to be administered by the UN. This is not an admission of wrong doing)

2. You will provide additional punitive damages equal to a further 2% of your nation's wealth, for your heinous treatment of the Elves.

(Absolutely not. We will not pay the oppressors extra money. Maybe they should give us back the 3% we will give them in return for the decades they mistreated us)

3. You will issue a formal apology to the Elven people and pledge never to move against Elven nations or peoples in the future.

(Again no. No apology for self defence)

4. You will, in perpetuity, limit your military to 300,000 troops, and will never develop weapons of mass destruction, defined as being any weapon of a nuclear, chemical, biological, antimatter, or nanotechnological nature, and will not develop orbital weaponry or military starships.

(Although we lack the ability to produce such weapons and raise such a large army, we reject it on principle. We are a sovereign nation. But if you agree to the same, then we will also do it)

5. You will hand over to Menelmacari custody any and all military or government officials who had any hand in the planning, approval, or implementation of your plans to enslave your Elven citizens. This includes the Emperor.

(No. We will not turn over our freedom fighters to your "justice"
Very well. The Interdiction will continue.

Perhaps if you detail what precisely these people did to you, we might lessen our demands. They will not be removed entirely, due to the method by which you attempted to 'handle' the problem. At worst, it was despicable, heinous, and unforgivable... and at best, it showed you to be no better than the regime you replaced.

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Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:49
The Trimarians have arrived in port.

Prisoner Off loading has begun. Shipping of prisoners to detention facilities around C-G has also begun.

Their trails will start in the Next Week. (RL tommorow)
22-10-2003, 06:52
Your unilateral blockade is a heinous violation of international law.

We need no excuse for self defence.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 06:54
Your unilateral blockade is a heinous violation of international law.

We need no excuse for self defence.

OOC: aww, dang it, and we were doing so well too, lol. Although, I suppose this is how a government in their position would probably act.
22-10-2003, 06:58
News report:

An outbreak of New Hyborean flu has killed approximately 500 children. Although not usually a fatal disease, the blockade has stopped the inflow of medicine and that is the main cause of their deaths.

In other news, thousands of eye witnesses have been prevented from going to CG to testify against the elves by Menelmacar's blockade...
Mushroomius
22-10-2003, 07:05
News report:

An outbreak of New Hyborean flu has killed approximately 500 children. Although not usually a fatal disease, the blockade has stopped the inflow of medicine and that is the main cause of their deaths.

In other news, thousands of eye witnesses have been prevented from going to CG to testify against the elves by Menelmacar's blockade...

"What do you think?"

Chancellor Toad leaned back. "One of two things. One, it is a false news report devised to instill contempt towards Menelmacar by the political community, thus ending the blockade."

"And the second?"

"I'd have to say that, perhaps New Hyborea should have anticipated a pro-Elven international reaction. I quote Murphy, who never sleeps: Anything that can go wrong will go wrong at the worst possible moment. To New Hyborea: Deal with it."
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 07:25
ooc: (Of course, there's a good chance the report wouldn't get out of NH at all, considering the Interdiction also includes jamming their satellites...)

~Siri
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 07:30
News report:

An outbreak of New Hyborean flu has killed approximately 500 children. Although not usually a fatal disease, the blockade has stopped the inflow of medicine and that is the main cause of their deaths.

In other news, thousands of eye witnesses have been prevented from going to CG to testify against the elves by Menelmacar's blockade...

"What do you think?"

Chancellor Toad leaned back. "One of two things. One, it is a false news report devised to instill contempt towards Menelmacar by the political community, thus ending the blockade."

"And the second?"

"I'd have to say that, perhaps New Hyborea should have anticipated a pro-Elven international reaction. I quote Murphy, who never sleeps: Anything that can go wrong will go wrong at the worst possible moment. To New Hyborea: Deal with it."

OOC: I need those witnesses. If not, then the trials can not go ahead and I'm stuck with lots and lots o' elves rotting in detainment areas.
22-10-2003, 07:32
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 07:33
ooc: (Of course, there's a good chance the report wouldn't get out of NH at all, considering the Interdiction also includes jamming their satellites...)

~Siri

OOC: true, but, in that case...

A Wing of 5 aircraft take off from the runway, each with a capasity to carry 200 persons. Their target are the landing strips of New Hyborea. Their mission is to gather the most importent witnesses.
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 07:33
The Empire does not agree with Chancellor Toad and acts on it's own. More wrongs will not help the situation.

25 cargo/troop transports blast through the atmosphere, hulls glowing.

They were trying to come in fast and from above, to try and get around the blockade. They carry basic bulk medical supplies that are airdropped to third world nations.

No fighter escort, just the dropships.
22-10-2003, 07:35
OOC: we dont have any satellites. NH is a really small nation of 12 million people. The only satellites we use are commercial ones on which we purchase time.
22-10-2003, 07:36
The witnessess await the transports.

People in New Hyborea eagerly await the humanitarian supplies.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 07:39
"Sir, Alpha One, we're comming up on the interdiction. Shall we procede?"

"Go straight on through. Command doubts they'll fire."

"Roger Roger. Alpha One out."
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 07:40
We are not monsters.

We will transport the witnesses. We will also sell you medicine, but no more and no less than you require. That should handle your crises. Beyond that, the Interdiction continues.

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Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 07:42
News report:

An outbreak of New Hyborean flu has killed approximately 500 children. Although not usually a fatal disease, the blockade has stopped the inflow of medicine and that is the main cause of their deaths.

In other news, thousands of eye witnesses have been prevented from going to CG to testify against the elves by Menelmacar's blockade...

"What do you think?"

Chancellor Toad leaned back. "One of two things. One, it is a false news report devised to instill contempt towards Menelmacar by the political community, thus ending the blockade."

"And the second?"

"I'd have to say that, perhaps New Hyborea should have anticipated a pro-Elven international reaction. I quote Murphy, who never sleeps: Anything that can go wrong will go wrong at the worst possible moment. To New Hyborea: Deal with it."

OOC: BTW: How does a nation that states that it defences the decent treatment of all beings refuse to help a nation in need of medical help?
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 07:43
"Told ya Alpha One. You owe me ten bucks."

"Yeah yeah, shut up."
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 07:44
OOC: Ya never know... some nations get a litll e blockade hungry and turn it into a seige...

IC: The dropships begin the air drops over the major airbases and airports, away from the populace that may overun and loot the supplies.
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 07:52
We are not monsters.

We will transport the witnesses. We will also sell you medicine, but no more and no less than you require. That should handle your crises. Beyond that, the Interdiction continues.

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IC: Crimmond: Please cease your drops, we are handling the medical crisis. Beyond that, you are undermining our efforts by making these drops.

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22-10-2003, 07:55
People somehow find out the location of the drops and jostle for the supplies.

Menelmacar's offer of medical supplies have been rebuffed due to the rumour that they are poisoned.
Roania
22-10-2003, 07:56
OOC: I knew the minute I saw this thread that it would be trouble...

I really want to blow something up, though.

And I do have that Goa'Uld hunting fleet, which is lacking in a purpose and should be in that area...

IC:

To: Interdiction Force
From: Roanian 5th Fleet.
Re: Assistance?

Do you need any assistance in this matter?
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 07:56
The drops cease, having only deployed 1/4 their loads.

"We saw nothing being done by your forces to assist and took it upon ourselves to do what was needed. We will recall the ships though."

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22-10-2003, 08:00
New Hyborea calls for "Honest Broker" mediation.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 08:00
People somehow find out the location of the drops and jostle for the supplies.

Menelmacar's offer of medical supplies have been rebuffed due to the rumour that they are poisoned.

We recommend that you accept these drops. We STRONGLY recommend that you accept these drops.
Roania
22-10-2003, 08:02
Not recieving an answer, the ships take off and head for New Hyperborea. Dozens of drone fighters begin to come out of the hangars and prepare for combat against any blockade runners.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 08:08
Not recieving an answer, the ships take off and head for New Hyperborea. Dozens of drone fighters begin to come out of the hangars and prepare for combat against any blockade runners.

We also strong suggest that you halt these actions. The Matter is being taken care of.
22-10-2003, 08:11
New Hyborea launches its SU-47's into the sky.

New Hyborean Emperor: "we will protect our sacred lands. Those who come here looking for battle will be buried here!"
Crimmond
22-10-2003, 08:12
The Crimmond ships climb into the upper atmosphere and back to the escort carriers in orbit.

"We strongly urge the Hyboreans to accept the Menelmacari offer. They could destroy you without poison, by bombarding you from orbit. It would be an atrocity to put poison in the medical supplies and they would lose the support of many nations if they commited such a henious act."

"Also, I suggest to Roania that you not do such a thing. There is no cause, the situation is under control. This would only create more chaos and make the situation that much worse."

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Crimmond
22-10-2003, 08:12
New Hyborea launches its SU-47's into the sky.

New Hyborean Emperor: "we will protect our sacred lands. Those who come here looking for battle will be buried here!"OOC: REALLY bad move...
22-10-2003, 08:15
CG, the only way we can accept medical supplies is if they have not been interfered with by Menelmacar. Maybe you could offer medical supplies. Of course we will pay market prices.
22-10-2003, 08:16
The New Hyborean people see the writing on the wall. The pro elven faction seem to have decided on a "Final Solution".
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 08:22
If you attack our fleet, we will do battle, and we will annihilate your aircraft, but we will not go further, not even to destroy their bases. Missiles launched from the ground will be shot down and their launch sites and sensors destroyed, but no further action taken. We have no desire for war.

Likewise, we have no desire for this 'final solution' you speak of. We ask only that you accept our requirements. Once you do, the Interdiction will end immediately. It is your choice when communications and trade begin to flow again. Not ours. We urge you to choose wisely.

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
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Clicky-clicky!
22-10-2003, 08:38
*sigh* It seems it just doesn't pay to defend oneself against elven oppression these days. Kill an elf and throw off the shackles of oppression, and get a gravfleet after you. Tell me Sirithil, would your opinion be the same if the situation were reversed in New Hyborea? If it were elves who revolted and cast down and punished human oppressors?

Bah, of course not. I shouldn't expect an elf to know the meaning of racial equality...

~Overlord Bradley Steelblood
Roania
22-10-2003, 08:42
The Crimmond ships climb into the upper atmosphere and back to the escort carriers in orbit.

"We strongly urge the Hyboreans to accept the Menelmacari offer. They could destroy you without poison, by bombarding you from orbit. It would be an atrocity to put poison in the medical supplies and they would lose the support of many nations if they commited such a henious act."

"Also, I suggest to Roania that you not do such a thing. There is no cause, the situation is under control. This would only create more chaos and make the situation that much worse."

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Council Member of the Coalition of Universal Rights
Crimmond National Factbook (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76921)

OOC: Bah. I want to create havoc. Sadly, only Menelmacar can order me to a course of action and expect me to comply post-haste.

IC: "We are not attacking, we are merely aiding the Menelmacari in enforcing the blockade and ensuring that justice be done."
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 08:56
*sigh* It seems it just doesn't pay to defend oneself against elven oppression these days. Kill an elf and throw off the shackles of oppression, and get a gravfleet after you. Tell me Sirithil, would your opinion be the same if the situation were reversed in New Hyborea? If it were elves who revolted and cast down and punished human oppressors?

Bah, of course not. I shouldn't expect an elf to know the meaning of racial equality...

~Overlord Bradley Steelblood
No, of course it wouldn't. But then, an elf wouldn't brand a human's forehead and sell him into slavery, either. That is what is at issue here. I sympathize with the Hyborean mortals' plight before their revolution. However, I cannot tolerate how they conducted that revolution.

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
~Foreign Minister Duke Paolio, The Outlands
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Clicky-clicky!
22-10-2003, 11:41
There are no elves left in New Hyborea. Why labor this issue. They oppressed us for decades and got a few months of oppression in exchange. They got off lightly.

New Hyborea will not sell its soul for the lifting of the blockade.
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 11:43
Then the blockade will not be lifted.

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
~Foreign Minister Duke Paolio, The Outlands
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Roania
22-10-2003, 11:43
"Admiral of the Menelmacari Fleet, what are your orders?" The Roanian Admiral sent a coded communique to his Elven counterpart.
Menelmacar
22-10-2003, 11:45
"Hold position off their coast. Respond if attacked but do not extend any combat beyond those that attacked you. Any ships which attempt to pass are to be seized, and their crews repatriated to their country of origin. Nothing gets through."

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
~Foreign Minister Duke Paolio, The Outlands
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Roania
22-10-2003, 11:51
The drop and grav ships hastened to comply, while above the Roanian Galactic fleet kept a close monitoring of enemy activity.
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 15:08
"Alpha one, do you have the witnesses?"

"Yep, they are all loaded up and we're ready to start our trip back."

"Roger, come on back Alpha one."
Canada-Germany
22-10-2003, 15:10
CG, the only way we can accept medical supplies is if they have not been interfered with by Menelmacar. Maybe you could offer medical supplies. Of course we will pay market prices.

I offer this deal. Perhaps Menelmacar can send all medical aid to me. Then, I can check it over to calm your fears before sending it to you?
The Gulf States
22-10-2003, 17:07
CG, the only way we can accept medical supplies is if they have not been interfered with by Menelmacar. Maybe you could offer medical supplies. Of course we will pay market prices.

I offer this deal. Perhaps Menelmacar can send all medical aid to me. Then, I can check it over to calm your fears before sending it to you?

Perhaps a represenative from both nations could view the inspection from a neighboring waiting room with glass windows to make sure no funny buisness happens.
22-10-2003, 19:39
*sigh* It seems it just doesn't pay to defend oneself against elven oppression these days. Kill an elf and throw off the shackles of oppression, and get a gravfleet after you. Tell me Sirithil, would your opinion be the same if the situation were reversed in New Hyborea? If it were elves who revolted and cast down and punished human oppressors?

Bah, of course not. I shouldn't expect an elf to know the meaning of racial equality...

~Overlord Bradley Steelblood
No, of course it wouldn't. But then, an elf wouldn't brand a human's forehead and sell him into slavery, either. That is what is at issue here. I sympathize with the Hyborean mortals' plight before their revolution. However, I cannot tolerate how they conducted that revolution.

Lady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Chancellor of CENNA


*said dripping with sarcasm and disgust*
Oh, but of course an elf could never do that! That would be *gasp* wrong! And we all know elves are incapable of anything wrong. Right?

It is exactly this attitude that makes other nations despise you. Maybe you should work on that, hmm?

~Overlord Bradley Steelblood
Roania
23-10-2003, 00:58
OOC: Just rping the blockade, because no-one else is bothering.

IC:

A small trawler carrying medical supplies attempts to enter Hyperborean waters. The captain looks out at the blockade. "It's a good thing that we are on a mission of mercy, no?"

One of the soldiers speaks into a megaphone. "By order of Empress Sirithril, and his highness Prince Alexander of Roania, this country's ports are closed. Turn around, or face destruction!"

A Roanian Legion GravShip fires a ralley of missiles into the water before the boat. The captain swears. "I am on a mission of mercy! Would you let those children die?"

"Silence, waterliver! You shall not argue with us. We shall send a request to our superiors and ask for further orders. If you are not cleared, you shall turn around." A transmission describing the situation is sent to Menelmacar.
Canada-Germany
23-10-2003, 02:40
The 5 plane wing taxied, each reaching critical speed to enable take off, one by one.

To their commanders back in C-G, they sent a message.

"This is Alpha one, we have the witnesses and are procedding back to base. We should reach there in a day."

"Roger Roger."

To the blockaiding forces of Roania, this message was sent.

"This is Alpha one, leading 5 planes to pick up witnesses from New Hyborea. We are in our return flight. We are not to be harrassed in anyway as our agreement with Menelmacar alows us this flight."
Roania
23-10-2003, 02:47
"You have made no agreement with us. We shall seek confirmation. Turn back and wait for our signal."
Canada-Germany
23-10-2003, 02:54
"We can not turn back, we are heading at best speed. If nessasarly, conferm with Menelmacar as we're passing through. If by some reason, you do not get confermation, you can easily catch us. We need to reach CG for the trial."

(OOC: The planes being used are like the An-124 or the C-17, only with a few differences.)
Roania
23-10-2003, 02:56
"What trial?" A massive amount of Dropships follow alongside.
Canada-Germany
23-10-2003, 02:58
"The trial of the Elves that New Hyborea shipped to us and that Menelmacar, while not happy with, agreed to."
Canada-Germany
23-10-2003, 03:14
"Will be sending you the relevent information... now."
Roania
23-10-2003, 03:17
"We see no reason for this matter to come to trial. Release the elves to us, or we shoot you out of the sky."

OOC: They won't obey anyone but Menelmacar to override this.
Canada-Germany
23-10-2003, 05:27
"I would recommend that you do not contimplate any aggressive actions against any craft in this wing. The results would be... unfortunet. Contact Menelmacar if you want further re-assureances."
Roania
23-10-2003, 05:31
"Define unfortunate..."
Menelmacar
23-10-2003, 05:37
The aircraft are cleared.

~The Menelmacari Warlord, who I haven't yet named.
Roania
23-10-2003, 05:38
The Roanian dropships cease escorting and return to menacing the fishing trawler. "What about this vessel?"
Canada-Germany
23-10-2003, 05:45
"Thank you.' the pilot comments, deadpaned.

The connection is terminated before the pilot says anything else.

"I almost wish those fu*kups had tried something."

His hand wayvered over a butten labeled "fire Control".
23-10-2003, 05:49
From Thorne, Envoy of New Hyborea:

How goes the trial?

Our people still suffer. We call on the international community to end this blockade as it has sent the people into poverty. We are even unable to buy normal products that we used to import because Menelmacar says the are "dual use" and could be used to make weapons of mass destruction. We have never had any WMD in the first place and cant afford them anyway.

Menelmacar is a rogue state. Please assist my people...
Roania
23-10-2003, 05:53
"Thank you.' the pilot comments, deadpaned.

The connection is terminated before the pilot says anything else.

"I almost wish those fu*kups had tried something."

His hand wayvered over a butten labeled "fire Control".

OOC: You do realise a Dropship could completely destroy that squadron before they even realise what's happening, right?
Flocarga and Delmarva
23-10-2003, 05:56
Menel has screwed you over pretty good.

I wouldn't worry about it though, they got the same stunt pulled on Belem too. And somehow both blockade operations still succeed. (OOC: I highly advise AGAINST inviting Belem into this if you want a good RP.)
Canada-Germany
23-10-2003, 05:56
From Thorne, Envoy of New Hyborea:

How goes the trial?

Our people still suffer. We call on the international community to end this blockade as it has sent the people into poverty. We are even unable to buy normal products that we used to import because Menelmacar says the are "dual use" and could be used to make weapons of mass destruction. We have never had any WMD in the first place and cant afford them anyway.

Menelmacar is a rogue state. Please assist my people...

Your labeling of Menelmacar is not very helpful. I ask that you retract that statement. While they can be blinded by their biases, they do make the right decision if properly given the motivation.

As for the trial. It was been delayed due to the unhelpfulness of the Elves in question. They seem to distain our entire legal system and refuse to answer any questions.

We, of course, have ways of getting around this.

But it does take longer to start a trial.
Canada-Germany
23-10-2003, 05:57
"Thank you.' the pilot comments, deadpaned.

The connection is terminated before the pilot says anything else.

"I almost wish those fu*kups had tried something."

His hand wayvered over a butten labeled "fire Control".

OOC: You do realise a Dropship could completely destroy that squadron before they even realise what's happening, right?

*cough*

Do you know this for sure? do you know the exact specs on these planes? I said they were LIKE the An and the C-17, not indentical. You wouldn't really the the armorments as they are, at present, internal.
Flocarga and Delmarva
23-10-2003, 05:58
Do you know this for sure? do you know the exact specs on these planes? I said they were LIKE the An and the C-17, not indentical.

Now with an added paintstripe down the center, and an extra layer of foam on the bottom of the wings and fuselage to help in those crash landings... *Don't forget spy cameras*
Roania
23-10-2003, 05:58
"Thank you.' the pilot comments, deadpaned.

The connection is terminated before the pilot says anything else.

"I almost wish those fu*kups had tried something."

His hand wayvered over a butten labeled "fire Control".

OOC: You do realise a Dropship could completely destroy that squadron before they even realise what's happening, right?

*cough*

Do you know this for sure? do you know the exact specs on these planes? I said they were LIKE the An and the C-17, not indentical.

100 %. Dropships can hover, move faster, and, this being Roanian property, packed full of assorted nastiness no other nation would look at.