NationStates Jolt Archive

Enhanced RP bonus: excellent idea. More carrots, less sticks! Although it's always been the hosts, not the WCC, who have decided so far. I'm not sure how it works under the new regime.

Mostly though, just wanted to say: Group 8, 119 posts! That's more than twice as many as any other group. Even though i flaked out for 3 days (sorry again WW). We're the best, too bad some of us are headed for early elimination (including possibly the top RP'er of all with 40 posts).

Wow.

Gee, uh...lots of RPing.

GO GROUP 8!

Gotta beat Snub though... :wink:

Enhanced RP bonus: excellent idea. More carrots, less sticks! Although it's always been the hosts, not the WCC, who have decided so far. I'm not sure how it works under the new regime.

Mostly though, just wanted to say: Group 8, 119 posts! That's more than twice as many as any other group. Even though i flaked out for 3 days (sorry again WW). We're the best, too bad some of us are headed for early elimination (including possibly the top RP'er of all with 40 posts).

Wow.

Gee, uh...lots of RPing.

GO GROUP 8!

Gotta beat Snub though... :wink:

Actually I was talking about Superman Alan Belmore who just scored a hat-trick, but I guess Rejistania and Spaam have guilty consciences ;)

Alan Belmore is our only decent player.

anyway WW do you want to put in a hosting bid for WC11?

Actually I was talking about Superman Alan Belmore who just scored a hat-trick, but I guess Rejistania and Spaam have guilty consciences ;) Whoa, people read my RPs? Laurence Wellden has scored....Once.

And we were only talking about n00bs.

Why should newcomers be held to a higher standard?

because theyre naive to the workings of the NS world cup. i mean come on, in WCI we rolled dice, in WCIX.... well... have you SEEN the f--- spreadsheet we use??? im not surprised half of them are like "this seems cool, but what the f--- are you guys doing here?"

Sorry, I don't follow this line of argument. What does having the knowledge of how the spreadsheet is used have to do with newcomers being able to RP? That's what some were complaining about, the lack of RPing by newcomers. It must also be said, the complaints were only about newcomers who were doing suprisingly well in the qualifiers. We note there was no outcry to oust newcomers that were propping up their groups.

Actually I was talking about Superman Alan Belmore who just scored a hat-trick, but I guess Rejistania and Spaam have guilty consciences ;)
J'O' scorers:
Syku Lyku (6)
Xeseja Su (3)
Xkeliko Susu (2)
Imike Syku (1)
Sen I Ailn (1)

Is this still realistic?

WW:

Right. If we ban non-RPers, it needs to be across the board.

Not just newbs, not just the ones doing good...etc. etc.

AS seems to think it's okay to have a newbie-filled final, leaving the rest of those who RP watching on the sidelines.

Mustn't....do....it....

good stuff for a change

I agree with AS, a bit.

even the bit about the shit teams being ranked 49th? ;)

even the bit about the shit teams being ranked 49th? ;)

Yep, back in World Cup 5 :P

even the bit about the shit teams being ranked 49th? ;)

Yep, back in World Cup 5 :P

you mean back when i was 11th and you were in 10th? (ah the good ol' days, when LE was just a glimmer in Beelzebub's eye)

even the bit about the shit teams being ranked 49th? ;)

Yep, back in World Cup 5 :P

Heh, so I should've rightfully won that last match (WC9) instead of drawing...blah. :P

Alan Belmore is our only decent player.

anyway WW do you want to put in a hosting bid for WC11?

I'd actually like to see TnUI and WW. However, if WW DOESN"T want to host, then he's quite welcome to you.

I've thought about this a bit. I like the idea of an "RP bonus", but I don't think I'd like a bigger one. And I think some sort of minimum RP requirement is good - but with reservations. I think it needs to be less than 1 RP for every 2 matches.

Couple of reasons. Here's one - I've been doing some archiving (before the massive thread deletions). The first WC that SN38 partcipated in was WCIII. SN38's ENTIRE "RP" contribution to WCIII consisted of this, in the WCIII Sign Up thread:

"Just arrived in the "world" yesterday - so did not follow/participate in past 2 World Cups. From discussion, I'm gathering Football (soccer to citizens of the United States) is the sport. FIFA recently decided to change from Golden Goal to Silver Goal. That's overtime periods until a goal is scored -and then that particular overtime period must be finished - which could allow the other team to score, or even score twice and win. Very interested in participating in WCIII.
"The Guy Currently in Charge of Stuff for the Borderlands of Snub Nose 38" "

Under the guidelines WW used to find out who RPed how much in WC9, that would not qualify - it's all OOC. If the WCC had booted newbies for not RPing 1 out of every 2 matches - WCIII would have been my last. hmmm.

I guess we have to establish a minimum RP requirement of some kind. Do enough, you're in. Don't, and you're out. But, I think 1 out of 2 is too tough. WCs go fast - and most folks don't really have the time to RP 1 out of 2 - WWs well thought out and developed post shows us that. I think I'd suggest a "No Less Than 2 RPs per WC" (maybe 3) rule. Otherwise, we will intimidate the crap out of all the newbies - including those we might really enjoy in future WCs. I won't drag a bunch of examples in, but while I was archiving SN38 WC entries, I found that in many cases the first WC for some of us was just one, or a few, RP posts.

I did get pretty upset when TB was eliminated by a basically non-participating newbie - one of my strongest reasons for deciding that SOME RP requirement is a good idea. Like TB said in an ealier post (paraphrasing here), Would you join a war if you weren't going to RP it?

So...there's a lot of words that boil down to this:

I think an RP bonus is good, but not a big one. We need to have an RP requirement, and I think it should be 2 or 3 RP posts. More is too much, less is not enough.

*uses favorite ending for posts in which he proselytizes - hobbles off leaning heavily on walker, holding handkerchief to mouth to stop the drooling* :wink:

WW:

Right. If we ban non-RPers, it needs to be across the board.

Not just newbs, not just the ones doing good...etc. etc.

AS seems to think it's okay to have a newbie-filled final, leaving the rest of those who RP watching on the sidelines.

Ogle seems to feel that having a 10-team world cup, containing the only people who do the required amount of rp, is ok.


Sorry, I don't follow this line of argument. What does having the knowledge of how the spreadsheet is used have to do with newcomers being able to RP? That's what some were complaining about, the lack of RPing by newcomers. It must also be said, the complaints were only about newcomers who were doing suprisingly well in the qualifiers. We note there was no outcry to oust newcomers that were propping up their groups.

you missed the point.

not only do newbies not get how the World Cup is run, they obviously wont know how to RP properly. I did about 3 RPs in my first world cup, lost the majority of my group games and ended up in the second round proper of the world cup.

if that happened today, id be out of here faster than Rio Ferdinand from a clinic.

All im saying is that it takes a while for a newb nation to get to grips with the NSWC world. if they dont like it, they wont apply for the next world cup, if they do, they'll RP more and more.

Also, it doesnt help that a few nations have been saying "i dont trust so-and-so-a-nation to play properly" hence putting pressure on that nation, who has just signed up for a make-believe competition that they think might be fun.

the last word of that paragraph is what the most important part of the world cup is about. to have fun.

what you lot are doing isnt fun, its elitist bollocks which i dont want to be a part of.

More good points here by SN38 and Audio. How about this:

First World Cup: Allow a new team to do as they please.

If a non-RPing team decides to sign up for another WC afterward, THEN impose a (relatively small) RPing requirement. I'd say one every 3-4 matches would probably be good.

Any thoughts on this?

Alan Belmore is our only decent player.

anyway WW do you want to put in a hosting bid for WC11?

I'd actually like to see TnUI and WW. However, if WW DOESN"T want to host, then he's quite welcome to you.

Actually WW is top of the list for co-hosting my bid, I'll finalise it when the WC11 Signup thread starts, if WW still wants to co-host with me.

On another note, I've kinda already decided what we are gonna do.

Funny I post it, doesn't post. Post it again, times out. Post it again, and it double posts :roll:

Alan Belmore is our only decent player.

anyway WW do you want to put in a hosting bid for WC11?

I'd actually like to see TnUI and WW. However, if WW DOESN"T want to host, then he's quite welcome to you.

Actually, we offered to co-host WC11 with TnUI a while back. Apart from our initial post, we haven't been actively campaigning for it in any way. Our offer still stands to TnUI, and, if he accepts, great. If not, we would have to consider our options, but would probably put in a co-host bid of some sort in the future.

WW:

Right. If we ban non-RPers, it needs to be across the board.

Not just newbs, not just the ones doing good...etc. etc.

AS seems to think it's okay to have a newbie-filled final, leaving the rest of those who RP watching on the sidelines.

Ogle seems to feel that having a 10-team world cup, containing the only people who do the required amount of rp, is ok.

1 post every 2 matches is SO much to ask from people who sign up to play in the World Cup.

I said a while back: if you have no intention of RP'ing, why sign up? I still feel that way, but i've decided i don't like banning as a rule. Although it's nice to have sympathy over not qualifying last time, i didn't go off and sulk about it, i made a new RP for those in the same boat. It was fun, and had the added bonus of letting TnUI finally win something!

Maybe we can make do with: continued RP bonus, plus a post in the sign-up thread saying "this is a role-play, please don't sign up if you have no plans to take part," and maybe a country that signs up and makes no posts at all for one or two Cups can't come back.

[edit to add: Oh, TnUI has decided. Never mind then, i agree with whatever he says. :wink: ]

What's the hosts decision on LD?

Also, it doesnt help that a few nations have been saying "i dont trust so-and-so-a-nation to play properly" hence putting pressure on that nation, who has just signed up for a make-believe competition that they think might be fun.

the last word of that paragraph is what the most important part of the world cup is about. to have fun.

what you lot are doing isnt fun, its elitist bollocks which i dont want to be a part of.

I agree with most of what you say here, Audioslavia. Especially the bit about unduly putting pressure on newcomer nations and the threat of elitism. That is precisely why I ask that IF there are guidelines made, they must apply to everyone involved. There shouldn't be two standards, that's what smacks of elitism. We should be encouraging newcomers, new blood (that's for any vampires in attendence) keeps the World Cup fresh and fun. I simply advocate a strong RP bonus (including the World Cup proper) to reward those that do contribute to the fun and good humour of the game. My position is that we should reward those that do RP, and not to impose harsh punishments on those who don't.

I agree with Audio 100%. I'm pretty sure that the NSWC started off as a place for soccer/football enthusiast to lay back and see their nation kick butt. I'm also pretty sure that match RPing started off as a way to show others how your nation thrashed someone else. Now, the NSWC has become an elitist colony filled with stringent rules and a hierachy of nations.

If you want rules, that's fine by me, but 1 RP/2 matches is simply too much, even I can't do that. I have a busy life and my parents do not allow me on the net every other day. That's why I RP my matches about at most once every four or five days. However, I still want to be part of this community, it's something I look forward to and enjoy.

I'm sure all of us have real lives to lead. We can't be staring at the screen 24/7, waiting for others to respond. If you still insist on the RP rule, I'd recommend RP bonuses, not punishments for lack of RPing. If you still want a limitation, then 1 RP for every 3 days, but even I can't accomplish that because I can't go in so many times.

Possible people to ask to co-host WC11

Halfassedstates
Akbarland
Dennisov
Timway
SN 38

Ways to make the WC Qualifying more realistic.

1. Goups of 5
2. Different Match times
3. Live Updates on every goal on the WCC Site.

Now, the NSWC has become an elitist colony filled with stringent rules and a hierachy of nations.

1.) Elitist? If we do stick with a 1 RP post for every 2 matches, it's going to apply to everyone; that would be hardly elitist. The idea of banning nations for not RPing hasn't even gone through yet, and isn't likely to do so. Once again, if we ever do start banning nations, it's likely to be across-the-board and apply to even veteran nations.

2) Of course you're going to have a hierarchy. There's the WCC, active RPers, non-active RPers -- would you rather have no WCC?

Suggested change to WCC:

A list of the most active RPers(As decided by TnUI) is created and at the end of each WC these nations vote on who they belive should be on the WCC. The (amount to be defined by TnUI) nations with the most votes will be in the WCC.

This will help nations such as myself, who has no chance of hosting with nations such as Spaam on the WCC who will vote against my hosting bid no matter what.

PS can I have feedback on my possible Co-host list please.
PPS Is LD being accetped into the WC?

Let's take the chat out of the signup thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90716)

Aaarrrggghhh! Where's the love people!?

I think the RP bonus should be as it is. Not much, but at least it is a little measure to help keep these non-rping newbies out. Or even better.... give like, 2 or 3 points for every decent RP you do, up to a max of 20. Which would really help people like ORD. Who I want to see go well. In fact, I think that is a brilliant idea :D

As for kicking out newbies, well, I think the rule is, if this is their first WC, and they don't RP at ALL, then they have no chance of qualifying. Apart from that, anything goes. LD is a different case, because he's so friggin' annoying, but when it comes down to it, I couldn't care less. And its not really anything to do with me in the first place.

Hey TBF, let me explain something to you. The WCC doesn't vote AGAINST anybody. We all get one vote, to go to the host(s) of choice. And frankly, the closest you ever got to hosting, was with Erri, and we luckily managed to change Erri's mind on that. The same thing is going to happen with the WCC. You won't get on.

Now for your actual idea, well, it might be an idea.... the current WCC come up with a short list of like 20 nations, and those 20 nations the vote for the best 5-10 nations to be on the WCC or something. Whatever, it has merit, but at the same time, the current system is working fine. Why? Because all we vote for is who's going to host the cup, which has only failed once ( :oops: ), and the main decisions are going to come down to TnUI and Lemmy, which is fantastic by me.

The End. :P

Ways to make the WC Qualifying more realistic.

1. Goups of 5
2. Different Match times
3. Live Updates on every goal on the WCC Site.

We shouldn't be looking at making it more realistic. We should be looking at making it: (1) more fun, and (2, but related) more exciting.

I feel groups of 5 is a bad idea -- it cuts the number of matches down to a point low enough that a single lucky or unlucky incident can determine the entire contest. Plus, it's a bad thing for RP, IMO, to have days where one side doesn't play. Those are the main reasons I went with groups of 8.

Now, that does represent a lot of qualifying matches. But if we feel it's too much, let's go back to 6, not 5. That doesn't add a lot of games, but it does mean that everyone gets an opportunity to RP every day, and it means enough matches are played to mitigate the randomness a bit.

The other two suggestions are okay, I guess, but they do mean significantly more work for the hosts.

After WC9 Qualifying...
[code:1:19ce8e4605]Top 30 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 14 11 1 2 28 10 18 34
Gilmeecia (17) 14 11 0 3 25 13 12 33
Runaway Moose (6) 14 10 2 2 30 15 15 32
The Belmore Family (13) 14 9 3 2 24 11 13 30
Halfassedstates (13) 14 9 3 2 23 12 11 30
Bedistan (3) 14 9 3 2 21 13 8 30
Kaze Progressa (59) 14 9 2 3 21 13 8 29
Giant Zucchini (11) 14 8 4 2 22 10 12 28
Haraki (2) 14 8 4 2 30 19 11 28
Busby (8) 14 8 4 2 27 16 11 28
Lemmitania (12) 14 8 4 2 26 15 11 28
Dennisov (22) 14 9 1 4 19 8 11 28
Commerce Heights (23) 14 9 1 4 26 19 7 28
Oglethorpia (10) 14 8 3 3 33 20 13 27
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 14 8 3 3 27 14 13 27
Tanah Burung (39) 14 8 3 3 20 13 7 27
Oddslavo (7) 14 7 5 2 23 12 11 26
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 14 8 2 4 21 11 11 26
Kingsford (28) 14 8 2 4 24 15 9 26
Squornshelous (25) 14 7 4 3 29 15 14 25
Ariddia (19) 14 7 4 3 17 9 8 25
Audioslavia (18) 14 7 3 4 17 10 7 24
Snub Nose 38 (20) 14 6 6 2 21 15 6 24
Svecia (16) 14 7 3 4 17 11 6 24
Aquilla (36) 14 6 5 3 20 12 8 23
Nikea (44) 14 6 5 3 25 19 6 23
West Arridia (69) 14 7 2 5 22 20 2 23
Dark Outcasts (33) 14 6 5 3 16 14 2 23
Errinundera (15) 14 6 4 4 19 13 6 22
Spaam (24) 14 6 5 3 16 13 3 23 [placed at bottom after auto-matic qualification due to withdrawal of East Spaam]

Hosts
Europa Brittania (4)
Ravenspire (9)

New Rankings P W D L GF GA GD Pts
33. One Red Dot (29) 14 8 4 2 22 13 9 28
34. East Spaam (74) 14 9 1 4 18 15 3 28
35. Warnocks Wizards (77) 14 7 3 4 18 15 3 24
36. Hell Bovines (65) 14 7 3 4 18 17 1 24
37. Bullonien (26) 14 6 2 6 21 13 8 23
38. Rejistania 14 7 2 5 15 17 -2 23
39. The Redavic Union 14 7 2 5 16 20 -4 23
40. Antaeus Rising (26) 14 7 1 6 24 19 5 22
41. Timway (5) 14 5 6 3 25 18 7 21
42. Endray-Island (54) 14 6 3 5 21 18 3 21
43. The Lowland Clans (30) 14 6 3 5 16 15 1 21
44. Eauz (52) 14 6 3 5 19 19 0 21
45. Boa Vista 14 6 3 5 15 15 0 21
46. Pure Evil (35) 14 6 3 5 19 20 -1 21
47. LordSquall (53) 14 6 2 6 20 17 3 20
48. Keyshona (47) 14 5 4 5 17 15 2 19
49. Quohog (43) 14 5 4 5 15 13 2 19
50. The Weegies (45) 14 5 4 5 16 16 0 19
51. Akbarland (37) 14 6 1 7 19 20 -1 19
52. 1900s Oglethorpia (56) 14 5 3 6 21 21 0 18
53. Terranos 14 5 3 6 16 19 -3 18
53. Lanky Dude 14 5 3 6 16 19 -3 18
55. Defari (70) 14 4 4 6 13 16 -3 16
56. Auir II 14 5 1 8 13 18 -5 16
57. The Dragonian Empire (55) 14 5 1 8 16 23 -7 16
58. Morawny 14 5 1 8 12 20 -8 16
59. Demonic Beings (31) 14 5 0 9 18 19 -1 15
60. NASTIC 2 14 3 5 6 18 25 -7 14
61. SterlingIce 14 4 1 9 14 20 -6 13
62. Tranquillitus 14 4 1 9 14 22 -8 13
63. Sensual Products 14 3 3 8 12 19 -7 12
64. CallMeBernard 14 3 3 8 14 24 -10 12
65. Offshore 14 4 0 10 14 25 -11 12
66. Belmorian Scandinavia 14 3 3 8 12 25 -13 12
67. Zinkoland (87) 14 3 2 9 14 22 -8 11
68. God Squad (42) 14 3 2 9 14 24 -10 11
69. Anti-Nazis (89) 14 1 8 5 3 13 -10 11
70. Soviet Haaregrad 14 3 2 9 8 19 -11 11
71. Consumer Engineering (90) 14 2 3 9 13 22 -9 9
72. Freedom Country 14 3 0 11 12 27 -15 9
73. Zeronia (79) 14 2 2 10 11 21 -10 8
74. Evisceratomatoes 14 2 2 10 9 24 -15 8
75. Kramerica 14 2 2 10 12 29 -17 8
76. Kegarna 14 2 2 10 11 28 -17 8
77. Hokianga 14 2 1 11 12 26 -14 7
77. Wildthings Realm 14 1 4 9 12 26 -14 7
79. Jezland 14 1 3 10 12 27 -15 6
80. Clearwater 14 1 2 11 9 28 -19 5
81. Kravoli 14 1 2 11 9 29 -20 5
82. One Blue Dot 14 1 1 12 9 30 -21 4 [/code:1:19ce8e4605]

I'm for more realistic play. I was in an early World Cup and I got Third place in my first time. After that I couldn't even win a match, which I was annoyed with. So that to me was unrealistic. So realism and fairness is needed

I'm for more realistic play. I was in an early World Cup and I got Third place in my first time. After that I couldn't even win a match, which I was annoyed with. So that to me was unrealistic. So realism and fairness is needed

In the words of Tanah Burung -- "them's the breaks."

In light of the recent Spaam/East Spaam WC9 qualifying incident, Pedriana is officially pulling out of World Cup 10 competition. We'll leave any Pedrianan representation to the Bedistan national team.

Oilermania would like to sign up, is it too late?

Oilermania would like to sign up, is it too late?
I'd think so, yeah. OGRZ?

You do realise that GZ has not been on for a week.

Oilermania would like to sign up, is it too late?
I'd think so, yeah. OGRZ?
He can take Pedrinas Place.

You do realise that GZ has not been on for a week.
In that case I hereby request Ariddia review the votes and select the next most active co-hosts with the most votes.

You do realise that GZ has not been on for a week.
In that case I hereby request Ariddia review the votes and select the next most active co-hosts with the most votes.

You do realise that GZ has not been on for a week.
In that case I hereby request Ariddia review the votes and select the next most active co-hosts with the most votes.
you are kidding aren't ya
a week - maybe GZ has exams, work commitments, intwernet connection problems, etc. it's hardly going to mean the end of GZ's existance.
Give it a rest - theres still about a week or so of WC9 to finish off before WC10 - also ORD is still around - why should they be dropped cause of what has happened elsewhere?

Is it possible to withdraw the 'Demonic Beings' entry. I don't have the time for two entrants

lanky dude would be lankyed to sign up for the world cup

Is it possible to withdraw the 'Demonic Beings' entry. I don't have the time for two entrants
LD can take his place :D .

Technically its 'her' concidering i am a 'she' but i won't take offence

Technically its 'her' concidering i am a 'she' but i won't take offence

You see, this is why you don't have mortal enemies.

#Mortal enemies make the world cup go round, the world cup go round...#

You do realise that GZ has not been on for a week.
In that case I hereby request Ariddia review the votes and select the next most active co-hosts with the most votes.

fair enough, you were third anyway :P

i'll let you figure out the irony behind you taking the piss out of TBF's inability to become a WC host ;)

I say give GZ some more time. I definitely recall him saying something about exams not too long ago; I have no doubt he'll be back in time. Besides, why penalize ORD as well?

I say give GZ some more time. I definitely recall him saying something about exams not too long ago; I have no doubt he'll be back in time. Besides, why penalize ORD as well?

My point exactly - (and if we are going to replace hosts, why not have ORD and the super-sub :wink: ) {think back a couple of cups and you'll get who i'm on about!}

It'll come down to OGRZ's decision. I personally hope OGRZ will take the stance me and Gesamtkuntswerk were ready to take if we got hosting, IE let him participate in Q'fying, if he qualifies with horrible RP's eliminate him.

COUNT ME IN!!!!!
-Kyle

COUNT ME IN!!!!!
-Kyle

COUNT ME IN!!!!!
-Kyle

From first impression, hosts should say NO.

:roll: The triple post means nothing -- the forums were a bit flaky at the time. I can vouch for that, as I was having trouble posting my WC9 RP at that time.

From first impression, hosts should say NO.

I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Plus, I believe the idea of banning nations never went through.

No puppets? Whoa. Why not?

You do realise that GZ has not been on for a week.
In that case I hereby request Ariddia review the votes and select the next most active co-hosts with the most votes.

fair enough, you were third anyway :P

i'll let you figure out the irony behind you taking the piss out of TBF's inability to become a WC host ;)

Errinunderra & Spaam were second. LE, you were indeed third. But this is far too early to be considering replacements. GZ has a right to be busy a few days... :)

In light of the recent "activelessness" of GZ, right now, he has a major exam now (GCE O Levels, he is from Singapore, and for those that know how tough the Singapore education system is, you can understand why he is willing to keep off NS for a while). It should end around 21th Nov for him, but he MAY be able to squeeze in a message or two on the 18th because that's his last important paper.

As for me, my exams will end on 27th Nov, and this is perhaps the last time i'll be replying till then. Mine ain't the O Levels, but it's still exams, and I'm not from Singapore, I'm Australian (residing in W Aus), but I know GZ cos I just migrated from Singapore and we were from the same school... heck, enough with the long stories. btw, both of us are in GMT +8.

A tentative start on the WC will most probably be 1 Dec, but that's tentative.


No puppets??? I can guess why. But that's all right. Real coincedence that I ended up on both sides of the non-qualifiers.

Big Butts wishes to withdraw our entry to this event.

the reason for this is that we do not think it will be possible for us to meet the criteria mentioned by some participants.

also, how are you going to check on the puppet nations thing?
i guess some are already known from earlier events and maybe elsewhere in the forums, but what about other new puppets?

i have a total of 3500 words to write over 3 papers this week, and ive done about... umm... 1900 :/

but this actually means i spend more time on the computer, which means i spend more time on ns.

meh :)

Big Butts wishes to withdraw our entry to this event.

the reason for this is that we do not think it will be possible for us to meet the criteria mentioned by some participants.

What criteria? The thing I put on the front page that TBF said? I thought no-one would read that as everyone seems to ignore the first post and signup twice...at least thats what happened in the past.

A tentative start on the WC will most probably be 1 Dec, but that's tentative.

What? *Relises he doesn't have a clue what tentative means*. 1st of December. Why can't GZ start it on the 22nd of this month-I'm sure WC9 will be over by them. About 2 weeks between the world cups-rediculous.

A tentative start on the WC will most probably be 1 Dec, but that's tentative.

What? *Relises he doesn't have a clue what tentative means*. 1st of December. Why can't GZ start it on the 22nd of this month-I'm sure WC9 will be over by them. About 2 weeks between the world cups-rediculous.

dont worry, if a date is tentative it means it will most probably change :P

besides, if theres a very very big problem with the end of WC9 and the start of WC10 qualifying being so far away, im sure someone like TnUI or Lemmy could run the first few games until GZ and ORD have the time. Maybe even you could help out. meh.

Technically its 'her' concidering i am a 'she' but i won't take offence

You see, this is why you don't have mortal enemies.

#Mortal enemies make the world cup go round, the world cup go round...#

AARRGGHHH! Not Mary Poppins! ARRRGGGHHH!!! *runs away with hands over ears*

A tentative start on the WC will most probably be 1 Dec, but that's tentative.

What? *Relises he doesn't have a clue what tentative means*. 1st of December. Why can't GZ start it on the 22nd of this month-I'm sure WC9 will be over by them. About 2 weeks between the world cups-rediculous.

dont worry, if a date is tentative it means it will most probably change :P

besides, if theres a very very big problem with the end of WC9 and the start of WC10 qualifying being so far away, im sure someone like TnUI or Lemmy could run the first few games until GZ and ORD have the time. Maybe even you could help out. meh.

GZ told me that he is willing to start off the qualifying without me until I come back. He can only start when TnUI passes him the spreadsheet with the updated stats. I'll most probably be back before the qualifying ends.

when does WC10 start??

In keeping with TnUI's edict, Gilmeecia will be withdrawing from WCX.

I will RP the end of Gilmeecian football in the WC9 thread.

when does WC10 start??

Normally a short while after the last World Cup (WC9) ends.

In light of the recent "activelessness" of GZ, right now, he has a major exam now (GCE O Levels, he is from Singapore, and for those that know how tough the Singapore education system is, you can understand why he is willing to keep off NS for a while). It should end around 21th Nov for him, but he MAY be able to squeeze in a message or two on the 18th because that's his last important paper.

As for me, my exams will end on 27th Nov, and this is perhaps the last time i'll be replying till then. Mine ain't the O Levels, but it's still exams, and I'm not from Singapore, I'm Australian (residing in W Aus), but I know GZ cos I just migrated from Singapore and we were from the same school... heck, enough with the long stories. btw, both of us are in GMT +8.

A tentative start on the WC will most probably be 1 Dec, but that's tentative.


No puppets??? I can guess why. But that's all right. Real coincedence that I ended up on both sides of the non-qualifiers.

DID YOU SAY GZ IS FROM SINGAPORE!!!????
OKAY, I KNOW WHAT'S UP. AT LEAST THERE'S ANOTHER SINGAPOREAN HERE....

EDIT: Just as an add-on, I know how tough the education system is, heck I'm from Singapore, so...

Theory 1) GZ is just trying to avoid LE.

Theory 2) Liverpool England is Giant Zucchini and One Red Dot and Liverpool England all at the same time.

Neither are likely, and are mostly meant in jest.

Jest is good :D

Oh and one more thing, OGRZ: Does the fact that we're in the same timezone mean that i no longer need to wake up at 8 to check the scores? :wink:

Hello, this is my first post and I am hoping to be able to join the World Cup. I have read some of this thread and think that I am able to RP my matches. Could I please join?

Hello, this is my first post and I am hoping to be able to join the World Cup. I have read some of this thread and think that I am able to RP my matches. Could I please join?

Are you sure? Recently we've had cases like LD (you won't know, I'm sure), so.... OGRZ? TnUI?

LE, why do you keep posting after every signup?

LE, why do you keep posting after every signup?I'm very free. No, Really.

Hello, this is my first post and I am hoping to be able to join the World Cup. I have read some of this thread and think that I am able to RP my matches. Could I please join?
Check the first post of this thread. TnUI has you listed as a participant in WC10. You're in.

Read some of this thread World Cup 9 (first stage) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86242&start=0) to get a flavor for what goes on.

i think i know the true identity of Liverpool England:

he is a troll.

whenever any poor defeceless goat (or 'n00b' as theyre called in most of the world) tries to cross the bridge to the world cup, this troll stands in the way and tries to stop him passing by throwing as much crap in their face as possible

LE: you have absoloutely no right to question anyone's ability or right to join the world cup whether they are a n00b or not.. I would like you to stop posting 'hey, i dont think this guy will be good enough' or 'are you sure? we've had people like you who annoy us' or whatever directly after a newbie has taken an interest in the cup.

Remember, there was a time when you were a n00b too, how would you like it if the then-champion told everyone not to trust you?

If a country doesnt RP its games, then it obviously isnt interested in the tournament and wont bother signing up for another one. If, by some miracle, they qualify for the world cup (GASP! TRAGEDY! HORROR!) like NO NOOB HAS for the last 2 world cups, then they wont go as far as the second round anyway.

If it gets to the time where we have 70 odd regular players all RPing, then yes, we would have to 'test' n00bs or something, but until then, we need all the players we can get, and putting them off directly after their first ever post in a World Cup thread isnt the best way to attract newcomers.

You arent making any friends by acting as a 'gatekeeper', so for your own sake, stop.

i think i know the true identity of Liverpool England:

he is a troll.

whenever any poor defeceless goat (or 'n00b' as theyre called in most of the world) tries to cross the bridge to the world cup, this troll stands in the way and tries to stop him passing by throwing as much crap in their face as possible

LE: you have absoloutely no right to question anyone's ability or right to join the world cup whether they are a n00b or not.. I would like you to stop posting 'hey, i dont think this guy will be good enough' or 'are you sure? we've had people like you who annoy us' or whatever directly after a newbie has taken an interest in the cup.

Remember, there was a time when you were a n00b too, how would you like it if the then-champion told everyone not to trust you?

If a country doesnt RP its games, then it obviously isnt interested in the tournament and wont bother signing up for another one. If, by some miracle, they qualify for the world cup (GASP! TRAGEDY! HORROR!) like NO NOOB HAS for the last 2 world cups, then they wont go as far as the second round anyway.

If it gets to the time where we have 70 odd regular players all RPing, then yes, we would have to 'test' n00bs or something, but until then, we need all the players we can get, and putting them off directly after their first ever post in a World Cup thread isnt the best way to attract newcomers.

You arent making any friends by acting as a 'gatekeeper', so for your own sake, stop.

Here Here.

We might as well let in the n00bs. After all, occasionally a genuinely good new RPer might arrive, like Consumer Engineering in WC8 (though I haven't seen them RP in WC9).

And yes, there's experienced names not RPing, even those who RP elsewhere, and some of them have very high rankings and are keeping out competant but relatively new RPers. (I call this 'Haraki Syndrome'.)

Of course, I'm biased. I suppose I'm one of those 'competant but relatively new RPers'. But then, I actually did get into WC9.

We'll never get every nation RPing. The first ideal is to have 32 RPing nations in the finals. Remember when Tanah Burung were knocked out of WC8 by the non-RPing non-n00b Jacktazea? I do... (IIRC Jacktazea were knocked out in the group phases...)

Are you sure? Recently we've had cases like LD (you won't know, I'm sure), so.... OGRZ? TnUI?
Hey, LE, this newcomer has not used smileys in masses and seems to have read enough of this thread to know how it is working, don't behave so trollish and give Conanica a fair chance!

We might as well let in the n00bs. After all, occasionally a genuinely good new RPer might arrive, like Consumer Engineering in WC8 (though I haven't seen them RP in WC9).

I may be wrong on this, but I believe Consumer Engineering was a puppet of Errinundera. This, of course, would explain CE's absence.

Edit: Plus the fact that CE has ceased to exist. I also note Errinundera is up to 16 days again...

We might as well let in the n00bs. After all, occasionally a genuinely good new RPer might arrive, like Consumer Engineering in WC8 (though I haven't seen them RP in WC9).

I may be wrong on this, but I believe Consumer Engineering was a puppet of Errinundera. This, of course, would explain CE's absence.

Edit: Plus the fact that CE has ceased to exist. I also note Errinundera is up to 16 days again...

Brazilico syndrome :(

We might as well let in the n00bs. After all, occasionally a genuinely good new RPer might arrive, like Consumer Engineering in WC8 (though I haven't seen them RP in WC9).

I may be wrong on this, but I believe Consumer Engineering was a puppet of Errinundera. This, of course, would explain CE's absence.

Edit: Plus the fact that CE has ceased to exist. I also note Errinundera is up to 16 days again...
*decides to stick nose in - hey, with a name like this, what can you expect?*

No value judgement, just a point to make: How could we possibly ban puppets? We have no clue who is a puppet of who, unless they tell us. So, if we choose to ban puppets:
1. We will ban only the puppets of those honest enough to admit it.
2. We will have no effect on those who choose not to admit it - their puppets will still be able to get in.

(Note - NOT talking about Errinundera, Commerce Heights, or ANYONE in specific - just making the point that a ban on puppets won't actually ban puppets)

Well I proposed the idea of banning puppets to Hack on IRC, he seemed to think it would be possible to check everyones IP.

(Note - NOT talking about Errinundera, Commerce Heights, or ANYONE in specific - just making the point that a ban on puppets won't actually ban puppets)

Just nitpicking...Consumer Engineering != Commerce Heights. CH is still (very) active; CE is not. :P

(Note - NOT talking about Errinundera, Commerce Heights, or ANYONE in specific - just making the point that a ban on puppets won't actually ban puppets)

Just nitpicking...Consumer Engineering != Commerce Heights. CH is still (very) active; CE is not. :P
:oops: No, that's not nitpicking. I said the wrong thing. Thanks.

TnUI: "Devils Advocate" -
I'm sure we/you/hack could "ban" based on IP address. So...how about the nation I may have using the email/IP address of my home PC, and the puppet I may have using my work email/IP address?

I don't have that. I have one puppet (Stubby) and both use my home email/IP. But...there's still a way around the ban - although not an easy one if you don't have two PCs/email addresses to work with.

How about the fact that RM and I often use the same PC (the one I'm on now at home) to RP WC (k-e-y, m-o-u-s-e)? Based on IP address, one of us could, the other couldn't.

Well I proposed the idea of banning puppets to Hack on IRC, he seemed to think it would be possible to check everyones IP.
That would be pointless as the hosts have said they are willing to accept puppets

TnUI: "Devils Advocate" -
I'm sure we/you/hack could "ban" based on IP address. So...how about the nation I may have using the email/IP address of my home PC, and the puppet I may have using my work email/IP address?

I don't have that. I have one puppet (Stubby) and both use my home email/IP. But...there's still a way around the ban - although not an easy one if you don't have two PCs/email addresses to work with.

How about the fact that RM and I often use the same PC (the one I'm on now at home) to RP WC (k-e-y, m-o-u-s-e)? Based on IP address, one of us could, the other couldn't.

Well I'm sure most people will have logged into their account with both, but who cares?

Well I proposed the idea of banning puppets to Hack on IRC, he seemed to think it would be possible to check everyones IP.
That would be pointless as the hosts have said they are willing to accept puppets

Why don't you check what I was replying to before you speak.

Well I proposed the idea of banning puppets to Hack on IRC, he seemed to think it would be possible to check everyones IP.
That would be pointless as the hosts have said they are willing to accept puppets

Why don't you check what I was replying to before you speak.
But that would take effort!

*strangles TBF*

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

either way, a complete ban on puppets would be too difficult to police, all we can do if we decide to ban/restrict puppets is to request it, rather than order it.

So basically, you can put a puppet in, as long as you dont claim it to be yours. Hear no evil, See no evil :) (yes, i know thats the wrong proverb to use)

re-reading what ive just wrote, it looks a bit pathetic. this is why im not the president and TnUI is :)

cool I am a "well known team"

I've just noticed that one team is listed twice, at the end of the unknown-teams list.

Since OGRZ have agreed on puppets, Oddslavo will be back in WCX. [Good, time to improve my position]

Then you can put East Spaam back in....

And, um, East Spaam has nothing to do with me.... :?

And Belmorian Scandinavia.

Wha? oh, we're in

Jaurania are delerious at the relaxation of colonial power restrictions, and have confirmed their willingness to enter this World Cup.

Oh and remove Conanica. I tried to sneak a puppet in when controversy was still around.

Well, that was certainly underhanded of you, now wasn't it?

Hello, this is my first post and I am hoping to be able to join the World Cup. I have read some of this thread and think that I am able to RP my matches. Could I please join?

Are you sure? Recently we've had cases like LD (you won't know, I'm sure), so.... OGRZ? TnUI?
So you were talking to yourself(first sign of madness.)

Hello, this is my first post and I am hoping to be able to join the World Cup. I have read some of this thread and think that I am able to RP my matches. Could I please join?

Are you sure? Recently we've had cases like LD (you won't know, I'm sure), so.... OGRZ? TnUI?
So you were talking to yourself(first sign of madness.)
True, I did reply to my own post.

Liverpool England - ranked #1 for football after WC8 and #1 for humour and madness after WC9.

Office of the Underministry of Sports, Games, and Recreation (a subdivision of the Ministry of Commonwealth Relations) -- The basement of Jameston Place
Ianapalis, Iansisle, the Commonwealth

“...and therefore, I believe it would be in our best interest to send a national team to this, ah, ‘world cup’ ... thing.”

Underminister for Sports, Games, and Recreation Sir Gregory L. S. Penns-McCormick, the latest in the storied line of the Penns-McCormick baronetcy (and a rotten failure, if his late father was anyone to judge) always insisted that his underlings, or underling, as was the present case, address him by his full title. Currently, he was reclining in his cheaply made wooden chair, trying not to fall over as he was wont to do, and spinning a cheap ball-point pen in his right hand.

“Ah, do we even have a national football team, Cunningham?” he asked, accidentally dropping the pen with a loud clatter. The slight, bespectacled man before him quickly produced a folder, seemingly out of thin air, and cleared his throat.

“Yes, Underminister Sir Gregory, it appears we do. Rather blandly named the ‘Iansisle Ians’. They last played in 1997, under your predecessor at, ah, the Pan-Tilsitia Invitational Cup.”

“Well?” demanded Penns-McCormick, subtly retrieving his pen, “How did we do, man?”

Cunningham tucked the folder under his arm in order to quickly wipe his glasses, then perched them again upon the bridge of his nose. “Not too well, Underminister Sir Gregory. They, ah, we came in absolute last, losing to Healdsburg 5-0, Ryansisle 3-0, and Effit 10-1.”

“And this is your brilliant plan to reestablish the public’s confidence in Iansislean sports? A group of wahoos who couldn’t even defend our honor against our neighbors? They’re supposed to play in an international tournament?”

Cunningham’s voice was much smaller than it had been. “Yes, er, yes, sir. But it has been several years since the last time they’ve competed. Maybe they’ve, ah, improved?”

Penns-McCormick rubbed his forehead in exasperation. “Who’s the head coach? Anyone I may have even heard of in my entire life?”

“Yes, Underminister Sir Gregory!” smiled Cunningham, relieved by a question where he could answer in the affirmative. “Mind you, the team dissolved after the Pan-Tilsitia cup, so he’s not had much contact with many of the players since then, and would probably...”

“Cut to the chase, Cunningham! Who’s the head coach?”

“Ah, yes, sir. It’s the Viscount Riveran!”

“Riveran? asked Penns-McCormick sharply. “The heir to the Earl of Dunerbridge? How interesting...” In an attempt to look as if he were pondering the implications, Penns-McCormick leaned back in his chair, stopping abruptly and sitting back up. He tried to play it off as a moment of revelation, but failed miserably as he really had no sort of revelation at all. “Ah, he’s good, isn’t he, Cunningham?”

“The best in the Commonwealth,” replied his aide with a smile. “If anyone can go about whipping us up a team, it’s Riveran!”

Penns-McCormick hadn’t meant to sign off on this when the conversation started, but finding out that Riveran - a close personal friend of his, none the less! - was the head coach of their team gave him pause. “All right, Cunningham, bring me the appropriate papers, and I’ll sign them.”

His aide, who was a much bigger football fan than was Penns-McCormick, smiled broadly. Nine World Cups had already passed Iansisle by; if their application was accepted, it certainly wouldn’t be ten!

An expensive flat
Lakeriverwood, Gadsan, the Commonwealth

“Let it ring, Rivie,” murmured the blond toy he had picked up somewhere, running her hand up the arm that was reaching for an insistent telephone. For one single moment, he was tempted to listen to her, but there was always the outside chance it may be someone important.

He shook her off with a murmur of “later, doll,” and groggily picked up the handset. “’lo?”

“This is an out-of-Dominion call,” came the pleasant voice of an IanCorp recording, much too perky for the early time of the morning, “Will you accept IanCorp’s extra charge of two generals?”

He groaned. Now this REALLY has to be important was the only clear thought to sneak through the start of what promised to be a nasty hangover. “Yes, I do.” The other end clicked and buzzed for a moment, before connecting the actual call. “Hello?”

“Do I have the pleasure of addressing Viscount Riveran?” asked a (somewhat) familiar voice on the other end.

“You do,” Riveran said cautiously.

“Rivie, old friend! I’ve had a devil of a time tracking you down - three wrong numbers just in Lakeriverwood! Anyway, Rivie, I’ve the best news for you!”

“You do?” asked Riveran, still not sure who he was talking to.

“Of course, old bean! We’re getting the old team back together!”

“The...old team?” That was really too much. “O.k., who is this?” he asked, swatting the woman kissing his chest away gently. She looked at him in indignation, but stopped nonetheless.

“It’s George, my good man!” exclaimed the Underminister for Sports, Games, and Recreation. Silence on the other end indicated that more information would be needed. “George Penns-McCormick! I’m with SG&R now! In charge of it in fact!”

“Oh.”

“Anyway, Rivie, like I was saying, we’re getting the old team back together, and would be right honored to have you as head coach again! We may even be taking part in the Tenth World Cup!”

That really was too much for Viscount Riveran to handle at the moment. He replaced the handset and tried to blink against the bright light.

“What was it, Rivie?” asked the woman (he hoped he’d remember her name sooner or later).

“A job offer, doll. A job offer.”

She giggled. “Are you going to take it?”

“We’ll see,” he shrugged, “we’ll see. But shut up now. I’ve a dreadful headache.”

OOC:

Good to see you enterin' the Cup, Iansisle.

Quite a long entry post though, don't you think? :wink:

Yay, Iansisle is here! <insert short happy dance>

OOC:

Good to see you enterin' the Cup, Iansisle.

Quite a long entry post though, don't you think? :wink:

(Thanks Oglethorpia; T.B. - it's nice to be welcomed by two such distinguished members!

I suppose it did get a little wordy; sorry about that. I've missed out on nine world cups and figured it would be best to get my 'team' some backhistory. If it helps, I was going to write Riveran going and rounding two or three of the star (such as it is!) players of the team, but stopped when I crested four pages on my w.p. ;))

Welcome, Iansisle. That was indeed a long post, but who cares?
Liverpool England
Ranked 1st in World
Defending WC8 Champion

So LE, you actually posted to harass yourself for being a newbie in order to fool the hosts into allowing you to enter a puppet?

I just don't even know what to say about that.

But I don't find it amusing.

I'm still here.

(1h 30 minutes before killer exam...)

OOC:

Good to see you enterin' the Cup, Iansisle.

Quite a long entry post though, don't you think? :wink:

(Thanks Oglethorpia; T.B. - it's nice to be welcomed by two such distinguished members!

I suppose it did get a little wordy; sorry about that. I've missed out on nine world cups and figured it would be best to get my 'team' some backhistory. If it helps, I was going to write Riveran going and rounding two or three of the star (such as it is!) players of the team, but stopped when I crested four pages on my w.p. ;))

Nah, it was more referencing your detailed RP posts -- which are pretty good, IMO.

Lookin' forward to see you RPin' :D

Nah, it was more referencing your detailed RP posts -- which are pretty good, IMO.

Lookin' forward to see you RPin' :D

(Thanks much! I hope I'll live up to your expectations...I don't know too much about football, but these WC threads look too much to miss out on! I've done a fair amount of research, and hope to be a good contributor.

On a somewhat related note, I have a WC newbie question: where would I RP the 'picking up' of my team? Here, or would another thread be more appropriate?)

World Cup 9 thread would probably best, if you were talking about the formation of your team.

If that's not what you were talking about -- well then, I misinterpreted ^_^

World Cup 10 Roster? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91439)

World Cup 10 Roster? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91439)
Concur w/TnUI as to appropriate place to RP acquisition of team.
(have been writing stuff at work - stuck in "bureaucrat" mode)

(All right, if you two are sure...I just didn't want to clutter up what must primarily be a reference thread with RP. I'll get working on that after classes. Thanks for all the help!)

(All right, if you two are sure...I just didn't want to clutter up what must primarily be a reference thread with RP. I'll get working on that after classes. Thanks for all the help!)
If you don't, somebody will. "All for Clutter, and Clutter for All" is our motto. :wink:
Seriously (not sure I can do that) we try to "spiff up" our rosters with a little role play. Without RP, what have we got? (attention - that is a rhetorical question. no responses need apply)

(All right, if you two are sure...I just didn't want to clutter up what must primarily be a reference thread with RP. I'll get working on that after classes. Thanks for all the help!)
If you don't, somebody will. "All for Clutter, and Clutter for All" is our motto. :wink:
Seriously (not sure I can do that) we try to "spiff up" our rosters with a little role play. Without RP, what have we got? (attention - that is a rhetorical question. no responses need apply)
We've got...... ah never mind

Without RP, we've got monstrous spreadsheets... and not a lot else.

Without RP we could have 1 World Cup a day! :lol:

College Edition, Webster's New World Dictionary of the American Language The World Publishing Company, Cleveland and New York, 1968

Rhetorical: adj. 1. of, having the nature of, or according to rhetoric. 2. using or characterized by mere rhetoric, or atificial eloquence; showy and elaborate in style. Abbreviated rhet

Rhetorical Question, a question asked, as in oratory or writing, only for rhetorical effect, to emphasize a point, introduce a topic, etc., no answer being expected.

:wink:

i would like to participate in the world cup too if it is still possible. Cheers

The Sultan of Scaraba wishes to participate in this grand and noble tournament! Huzzah!

Without RP we could have 1 World Cup a day! :lol:

thats about how long it takes you to get knocked out anyway :lol:

LOL AS :D

Not quite true but to be fair, TnuI didn't even make WC8... hehehe :D

I see there are 8 spots left...I could volunteer a puppet if needed.

10th World Cup! Congratulations!

If theres still a spot, Pavesia would come to this historical game and this time we try to do something in forums. :wink:

Edited: Dammit, I posted as New Pavesia. But I want that only the old Pavesia would join to these games, not the New Pavesia!

So joining: Pavesia.

LOL AS :D

Not quite true but to be fair, TnuI didn't even make WC8... hehehe :D

:lol: ...and Kaze Progressa and Audioslavia didn't even make World Cup 11... :lol:

LOL AS :D

Not quite true but to be fair, TnuI didn't even make WC8... hehehe :D

:lol: ...and Kaze Progressa and Audioslavia didn't even make World Cup 11... :lol:

lmao :lol:

hey i was actually gonna vote for you as well ;) ah well...

I'd planned to retire the Evisceratomatoes after one Cup try, but the chance to compete for a spot in Giant Zucchini is too good to pass up. So, signing up for one more.

Maybe we should keep a list of whose puppets each puppet is - then we know if there's multiple puppet abuse.

So the list might look like this:

....

PUPPETS

Oddslavo (of Liverpool England)
Jaurania (of Kaze Progressa)
Evisceratomatoes (of Tanah Burung)
etc..

Maybe we should keep a list of whose puppets each puppet is - then we know if there's multiple puppet abuse.

So the list might look like this:
....
PUPPETS
Oddslavo (of Liverpool England)
Jaurania (of Kaze Progressa)
Evisceratomatoes (of Tanah Burung)
etc..
TnUI did that for awhile. And it is nice to know "who" is "who". But it won't prevent the dread Multiple Puppet Abuse. :wink: If I have two puppets (don't) and want them both in, I could simply not tell anyone that the second one is mine. So, while I also think a "one puppet maximum" is a good idea, it has to be done on the honor system.

I'd planned to retire the Evisceratomatoes after one Cup try, but the chance to compete for a spot in Giant Zucchini is too good to pass up. So, signing up for one more.
YEAH!! :D

Count Monotonous Malarchy in.

Monotonous Malarchy Minister of sport.

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First of all, I would like to join..

Also, this is off the subject, but I'm just wondering if there would be any interest..

Also, I am sorry if this has been proposed before..

Okay, so I would start two new regions. Then as people joined, they would be in either Region A or Region B (in search of a better name). You will be put in one of these two regions based upon the following:

1.) Your economy listing (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29122)

2.) Your civil rights/political freedoms: I'm not sure how many ratings of each there are, although we could just do a simple 1-10 (or however many there are) for each.

3.) Your population

4.) Your daily UN rank

Now every day you might be able to move up the charts and even jump up into Region A, or fall down the charts into Region B.

Now, basically we would rank all of the nations by each category, and then just combine the rankings to get one grand ranking.

Basically, the object of this would be to rank first....

Would anyone be interested, or have any suggestions?

If so, please telegram Citta Acqua or/and post on this forum..

Thanks,

Chris

First of all, I would like to join..

So far, so good...

Okay, so I would start two new regions.

See, here's where it goes off the rails. Quite the off-topic post, friend.

First of all, I would like to join..

So far, so good...

Okay, so I would start two new regions.

See, here's where it goes off the rails. Quite the off-topic post, friend.
Yup.

It appears that Citta Acqua wants to start some sort of "League" with an upper and lower division. Nice idea, please use another thread.
And please, folks - don't post replies to Citta Acqua in this thread. TG him if you're interested, please. Thanks

(i did say "please"...) :wink:

Edit: Citta Acqua, thanks for your cooperation.
FOOTBALL ENTHUSIASTS - CHECK THIS THREAD
Citta Acqua's "League" Thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95264&highlight=)

I did start another thread for all those interested..

Snub: Exactly, that's what I was thinking, a sort of competitive league..

We wish to send a team to the qualifiers (prepares to get beat down).

New Montreal Times:

Head Coach Luc De Fabre announces yesterday that he will be sending his team to the qualifiers for WCX.

"We think it'd be great experience", he said of sending the Ice Paladins off to the qualifiers.

No-one is expecting the team to do much. "One win would be enough." stated Captain Joesph Pepin. "But I'd be lying if I didn't say we wanted to advance badly."

We wish to send a team to the qualifiers (prepares to get beat down).

New Montreal Times:

Head Coach Luc De Fabre announces yesterday that he will be sending his team to the qualifiers for WCX.

"We think it'd be great experience", he said of sending the Ice Paladins off to the qualifiers.

No-one is expecting the team to do much. "One win would be enough." stated Captain Joesph Pepin. "But I'd be lying if I didn't say we wanted to advance badly."

New Montreal States (and everyone else)

Here is the World Cup 10 Roster Thread. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91439)

Roster threads are always nice for your opposition, so that they may determine who scored your goals for your team, and stuff like that.

I will take the last place if you wish.

How long until it actually starts?

The Bedistan Sports Digest

Oldenburg Seriously Injured in Escalator Fall
Likely to miss all of World Cup 10

JAMESTOWN -- Bedistan Lions star goalkeeper Erik Oldenburg is currently in good condition tonight at Northeast Escambia Regional Medical Center in Jamestown.

Yesterday, Oldenburg was shopping at the Jamestown Mall, looking for some gifts to give to his daughter as he prepared to leave home for World Cup 10 qualifiers. He was riding an escalator downward when an apparently impatient 34-year-old man angrily shoved him aside. Oldenburg fell over the side of the escalator several feet to the floor below.

The football player is "okay", according to lead physicians at the hospital, though he has suffered several fractured ribs and vertebrae.

"This really sucks," commented Oldenburg when we went to visit him today. "I was all fired up, ready to kick some ass, when this happened. Now I don't know if I can play any time soon."

Oldenburg has been placed on the team's disabled list, and coach Gene Barber says it is "unlikely" that he will be able to play in World Cup 10. "It's a damn shame," says Barber. Chuck Mitchell, team captain, will take Oldenburg's place as starting keeper.

New National Stadium Completed
135,000-seat venue to open with first WC10 qualifying home match

MIDWAY -- It's official: the James Parker National Stadium in Midway, Paruvia, is complete and ready for business.

The stadium, pictured below, will now be used instead of Holmes Stadium in Columbia for national football events. It will also be the new home of the BFL's Midway Wolves. The Columbia Sharks will continue to play at Holmes.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/a/harleyt_1387/james_parker.png

"We're excited," says Stephen Rogers, Secretary of Sports and Games. "It was kind of sad that we couldn't even scrounge up a 100,000-seat venue for a team ranked in the top five in the world. Now we have it, showing that we really are up there with the big boys."

The stadium, named after Jim Parker, who coached the Bedistan Lions through World Cups 5, 6, 7, and 8, will be officially opened with the Lions' first home qualifying match of World Cup 10.

Qualifiers and qualifying group announcements will be made soon. I will try and delay it until ORD comes back from his exams. Meanwhile, watch out for a pre-World Cup X thread.

Please give the CoH-players enough time to RP their final and vinali tikira (TnUI don't want to hear the word with 'pl', so I use the Rejistanian expression).

Qualifiers and qualifying group announcements will be made soon. I will try and delay it until ORD comes back from his exams. Meanwhile, watch out for a pre-World Cup X thread.

Here's GZs' Pre-World Cup X thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96583&highlight=)

Which country does Antaeus Rising belong to?

Which country does Antaeus Rising belong to?
TnUI