NationStates Jolt Archive

'Following the general degeneration of the Martian situation Tor Yvresse has came to the conclusion that peace between it and Vascillia Country is impossible. Their refusal to leave the Territory of New Roan is in and of itself an act of war but the situation goes deeper than this. So we will present them here.

1.) The First and perhaps greatest offence was the statement, backed up by the threat of force, that they would clense mars of all that they viewed as Unmartian, that is, states that had colonial possesions on Mars. soon their viteriol was aimed at us Tor Yvresse, as a Proud Martian Colonial power.

2.) The Illegal attacks on shipping of foreign nations.

3.) The afarmentioned attempted seizure, illegally, of the territory of New Roan, by Military forces, this event occured only recently and the Territory is still in contention. The international community of Mars have all recognised Tor Yvresse's Legal and binding claim on the territory yet the forces of Vascilla refuse to leave the lands, offering only to 'Split' the Territory in two, which would still benefit them as they gain land through illegal acts.

4.) While claiming to want peace and negotiating with our people, in an attempt to prevent war they openly enter into negotiations aimed at forming an alliance against our nation, and one can assume, as allies in a future attempt to seize both New Roan and other Tor Yvresseian assets within Mars.

Having been personally witness to all of these acts the Council of Tor Yvresse has been faced with no other alternative than war. The path of peace has not only been forsaken by the Alliance of Vascillia but has in fact been perverted and used only to stregthen their hand against us, we will not allow this situation to continue.'

The Council of Farseers

Additional to the Leadership of the organisation known as SAVIOUR.

We would like to assure you that this is not a matter that involves SAVIOUR, in fact we may well be calling upon the forces of our Protectorate state Roania a member of your alliance, as such we would urge your leadership and members to avoid this war.

Exactly 30 Minutes after the message is sent Tor Yvresseian Forces move into the attack.

Space.

The first through to Third Fleets deploy fighters, (Four Hundred a Fleet making 1200). The Fighters deploy into both Waves and further into Squads. Each Wave is a Hundred fighters strong and a Squad Ten fighters strong As they form up onboard the 'Nevrvis Na'Shar' Nominally the flagship of the fleet Farseer Mel'Shair sits awaiting the final countdown. It was about to begin.

Then with a simple gesture the first Wave of fighters departs towards the Vascillian Fleet moving far slower than their speed would normally allow they are not yet on the assult, but soon they are joined by a second and third Wave and the fighters begin to speed up now hurtling towards the enemy lines and becoming lost in a hail of colour and static.

Ground Force One.

The Web opened and the armoured Punch burst through the Vaul Engines Leading the way Thirty of amongest the biggest weapons ever seen on Mars covered by hundreds of Jetbikes if not Thousends, Tanks of various designs and the like they hurtle rapidly towards the Vascillian lines making in many cases almost impossible manouvers.

Ground Force Two.

Else where the web opens again and the Martian soil is awash with the infantry of Tor Yvresse, and still more Grav Vechicles this force moves with the same sense of speed towards the Vascillian lines, yet seems to have a almost a sense of purpose greater than simple war, the Eldar had unusual plans for this force. Striding in the center of this force was a Monster it's form towering over even the Wraithlords of the Eldar it's body gleamed with Flame and it radiated a sense of simple hate and terror to the enemy, the Eldar seemed to draw strength and purpose from it's presence.

Direct diplomatic message to the honorable rules of Tor Yvresse:

On behalf the Federation of Technocratic Republics, it is my duty to request information on this war. These events of late has madee us worry about our martian interests on our colony of Chasma Dominia and it's nearly three hundred million colonists.
We would be most than gratefull if you could inform us about how much is this conflict expected to grow, in order to be able to prepare ourselves for future preventive actions.

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Ekthor Zestrogor,
Overseer of International Affairs

"Although we have no assets on Mars at this time, we extend our diplomatic backing to the actions of our friends in Tor Yvresse, and urge Vascillia Country to surrender themselves to the Eldar, and face the consequences of their clearly terrorist actions." - Princeps Senatus Karl Kopinski.

Direct diplomatic message to the honorable rules of Tor Yvresse:

On behalf the Federation of Technocratic Republics, it is my duty to request information on this war. These events of late has madee us worry about our martian interests on our colony of Chasma Dominia and it's nearly three thousand million colonists.
We would be most than gratefull if you could inform us about how much is this conflict expected to grow, in order to be able to prepare ourselves for future preventive actions.


We would assure you that at this time our plans form little more than the securing of our rightful territory and possibly a Punitive attack upon the Borders of Vascillia, that will be aimed solely at making our point before we likely withdraw to the Territory of New Roan, we wish to avoid a Global war but we must defend our territory and our right to exist on Mars.

Of course at the same time we will be defending the right for Nations to establish a Colonial presence on Mars, free of threats of force from such Belligerent nations as this. Due to the large size of this nation, or at least their alliance of States we are seeking aid, especially from our fellow comrades both on Mars and our Kin in Eldamar. Although we are willing to go it alone.

We thank the peoples of C'Tan for their Diplomatic support at this time, it is a welcome assurance from them that we are grateful for.

Farseer Council

"We will note this is a just defensive action on the part of Tor Yvresse. Vascilia County's inability to see the truth has brought them to this point, we would suggest they withdraw, before they feel the might of the Eldar."

Direct diplomatic message to the honorable rulers of Tor Yvresse:

I thank you for the information, as it has been of great use to us.

Currently, our colony of Chasma Dominia, has none offensive capabilities, as for it was never intended for that. Still, and specially after being informed on the purposes of Vacsilia behind this conflic, the less we can do is offer our support to Tor Yvresse in the matter.

Now, since we can not currently offer any direct military help, the Security Ministerium has agreed to extend part of the Martian Interests Security Comission funds, which are currently stablished on 56 billions of dollars, and put it as potential economical assistance in the conflict.
If the rulers of Tor Yvresse are interested in such deal, please contact us and we will be able to make the apropiate arrangements between the Security Ministerium and the Foreign Welfare and Cooperation Comitee.

We are more than assured that any coin spent on increasing the deffensive capabilities of the southern statets of Mars, therefore the ones that will most likely face Vacsillia soon, is a coin well spent on the indirect protection of our interests. The stability of Mars is a very important asset to us, both diplomatically and economically, specially when the Federal Business Combine, our largest commercial organizations, seeks to stablish itself on the red planet.

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Ekthor Zestrogor, Overseer of International Affairs

We anounce our support for Tor Yvresse and warn Vasicillia to withdraw or face the consequences.

three thousand million colonists.
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Ekthor Zestrogor,
Overseer of International Affairs


HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!

3,000*1,000,000=erm 3,000,000,000 3 billian????? colonists??? how big is your nation anyway...ah not big enough

OOC: My mistake. I seem to have had a mind lapsus and confused "hundreds" with "thousands". It shall be fixed with haste.
Thank you for noting it.

OOC: My mistake. I seem to have had a mind lapsus and confused "hundreds" with "thousands". It shall be fixed with haste.
Thank you for noting it.

mp :D

nOOC: My mistake. I seem to have had a mind lapsus and confused "hundreds" with "thousands". It shall be fixed with haste.
Thank you for noting it.

np :D

Without any kind of notification or grandiose speech, eight Helios-class Battlecruisers that are the bulk of the stationed Colonial Fleet depart the colony's space, in a south-southeast course. Once they get out of Mangala space, the ships will start launching its full complement of TIE fighters, circling around the battlecruisers in a defensive pattern.

At the colony, the detachable pods of the military bases are floating on the sea surface, the landing bays occupied by all kinds of dropships filling with military hardware.

(OOC: I need to make more precise calculations on the composition of the forces (tanks, infantry, etc.), but the number of soldiers (not counting fighter pilots or naval crew) is about one million.

Note that the soldiers are still on the colony, and that the ships will stop well outside of VC's borders.)

OOC Ahh yes thanks DS I forgot, I might as well add this as well so that people will know when they come into effect that they had always been planned.

IC Using the simple fact that we had already secured this permission the Eldamar Defence fleet deploys into GeoSynch Orbit around the Primary Tor Yvressian Colony on Mars. ((IE Not New Roan)) There they simply watch and wait, acting purely as a defensive measure against Hostile attacks by Vascilia upon the colony.

Deep in the Martian Asteroid Belt lies a Webgate, and a defence facilty, inside that webgate a presence stirs and waits, watching from behind the safty of a seperate reality, waiting for the Signal.

Elsewhere another presence stirs awaiting it's own signal, not all of Tor Yvresse's Space assets had been deployed, sometimes it paid to have a card up ones sleeve, or two as the case may be.

As for the Monatary aid offered

'We find the propossal interesting and agree that the fortifiction of the Southern States is vital for the security of Mars in the future, we would discuss the matter further not feeling at this time that we need finacial aid but a Trade can be agreed upon.'

Sunsets statement

'Indeed this purely intended as a defensive measure, we hold no territorial ambitions within Vascilia itself.'

As the wise counsel has long since made their decision in this matter they were simply waiting for action to be taken.
Following TY's declaration of war against VC the nation of Pilon also declares war on VC.
They send the following statement to VC.

This is the nation of Pilon, we formally declare a state of hostilities between us. Before the war gets too involved however we wish to set forth a couple guidelines.
1: Any use of WMD by the nations of VC will be met by a counterattack of WMD by Pilon, we assure you our WMD are quite lethal and we do not wish to use them considering the international backlash of such actions but we will in responce to WMD deployed ANYWHERE on Mars.
2: The same holds true for Chemical and Biological weapons, our people are some of the best Geneticists in the world I assure you our Biological and Chemical weapons are far superior to yours but once again we will not use them unless they are first used against us or any other nation you are at war with.
3: Firing upon any neutral ships or people giving aid to the wounded will not be tolerated, we will respond by bombing civilian targets in the VC.
4: Attack allied Civilian targets will result in bombing of cilivial targets in the VC.

We wanted to make it perfectly clear before we begin what our stance on such things was and what the consequences will be fi you are fool enough to commit any of those acts.

The third Pilonese fleet, which had been deployed to the Asteroid Belt shortly before this begins heading in system. Beyond that no other large movements of forces are made by the Pilonese forces.

The Thelas government has followed the lead of Pilon Tor Yvresse and declared war on VC.

Villanova strode into Fleet HQ and right up to Admiral Filbeck, who was watching the latest intelligence come in. "Admiral." "Mr. President." "What's the current situation?"

"No shooting yet - the Eldar are moving forces into position. VDA shows several heavy weapon implacements being built on this wall of their's - some pointed at us. I wouldn't expect less, but it's not welcome." "Right - have the cities in the line of fire ready civil defense." "Already done. Shields are up and ready, outer doors are closed and internal sensor systems are running."

"Excellent. Are we ready for any attempted aggression?" "Absolutely - I've deployed all the planetary and space based fighter squadrons. The fleet is spread out here and here - no sudden attacks. Standard alerts have been sent out. If they attack us, they will be sorry 3 seconds later."

The Wisecounsel studied the reports given them via the nodelink.
"All is ready. We will begin assault in a few minutes headspeaker."
"Good, I want a complete update on our military preparations."
"Our Fleets are in orbit and ready to fight any incoming forces, the third fleet is headed in system now with a little surprise for the VC. Our secret Military Base is fully operational and awaiting orders to deploy forces. We have the defensive fields in place around all of our Assets on Mars. Once the third fleet is in system we will begin the attack."

OOC One ooc rule that goes without saying I hope, remember people be patient. RESI's original war collapsed partly I feel due to a lack of patience. My net connection is iffy at the moment for example I have to leave in ten Minutes.

So just remember people might not be able to reply to your schedule. I am only saying this to avoid the RESI situation I am sure it wouldn't happen here but...

ooc: we understand, we were going to wait for them to respond before doing any other posts.

In space above Mars, two additional fleets of the Ravenspire Spacy began to converge upon the Kuraboshi megacolony (Deimos), which would bring the number of fleets currently near that position to four.

There was no communication from the Ravenspire government regarding the matter.

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Aboard Ares Station, Hermes Spacelines Route Director Tom Mitchel cursed. [[OOC: You were waiting for that first lowercase, weren't you? :) ]]

"First Earth, then Mars? What about our cargo?" he spoke to himself, rather loudly. His voice softened, "We're going to loose lots of money on these wars, but we don't dare loose the fleet." Then loudly again, this time to one of the office workers who was pretending not to think the director was strark raving nuts. "Jenny, divert those freighters to Venus and Titan, whichever is nearest, and tell them to sit tight. We'll wire them funds for a low-key vacation."

"OK director." Jenny replied, and happily left the office as quickly as was polite. This left Directer Mitchel to stew on his own.

That was probably for the better, as every other civilian aboard Ares Station was worried about something else. Ares was in orbit of Mars. It was origionally designed to host Wazzu military forces to prevent piracy, an objective it still had and which endangered it in the war.

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April West was another story altogether. It wasn't really that the liked war, but she did enjoy flying...and she absolutely loved a good challenge. So it was with a mix of nervousness and excitement that she surveyed her Jinn fighter aboard Ares Station.

The craft was something else. It didn't have force fields (as such) or FTL drive or any such thing. No, its technology was distinctly Wazzuian...faster then the Menelmacari, tougher then anyone, though with a bite so light it forced the flyer to shoot smartly. A beautiful ship she thought...which was about what a similar pilot on Luna was thinking of his Wyvern.

Message sent to the Farseer's Council of Tor Yvresse:

If you need our help, just call, we're ready to send the fleets that are standing by near AMF. They're doing nothing and their Admiral is bored. I'm bored too, since I'm the head of state I don't see any action anymore. Maybe I will go to assist you in this war.

We also want to seize this opportunity to reclaim part of the Mars territory to build some mining colonies. Can you show us where we could start the terraforming process without interfere with the interests of other nations.

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral.

Though we wish to remain neutral in this conflict, any party that resorts to the use of nuclear weaponry above a depth of 1500 meters, or uses biological weapons in any form, will face our retaliation. We cannot allow any further disturbances of the ecopoesis process.

Be advised, our response will be swift, and Yggdrasil gives quite good range from the tip-top branches, so you would do well to heed our warning.

~Shapers of Worlds~

A response from the AF Ministry of Defence:


"I believe the Vascilian League must respond to the slanderous report by Tor Yvresse. First off, yes New Roan is legally theirs but due to numerous threats from the nations state of Tor Yvresse we believed that it would be in the interest of Vascilia County to create a military buffer zone to prevent Vascilian borders from being attacked by these blatant Colonial Aggressors!

We have had reason to suspect that as soon as Tor Yvresse gained control of the colony of New Roan that they would use it as a base to attack our glorious League of nations...and to defend ourselves we have built a defense wall that spans the length of our claim. Today Tor Yvresse has proven our fears to be correct by attacking the Hellespontos national defence wall and claiming that they will attack Vascilia County. This is not acceptable...The Red Mars movement is dead, destroyed by my government! but all their rants have been proven correct!


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Response to the Space attack:

3 AF Patrol frigates were annihilated by the attack, but for some reason unknown to the Tor Yvresse fleet they couldn't find anymore vessels to target...seemingly they fled or weren't even there to begin with.

Response from the Mars based Orbital defence cannons was swift and efficient, numerous energy cannons and missile defence batteries opened fire on the eldar fleet...(My country does computers...targetting computers, top 800 in Information technology ;)

OOC:

Now Im going to need more information on the ground attack...so you're telling me that you are indeed attacking the Hellespontos national defence wall?

Also where is the other attack coming from?

Imperator Kinezki couldn't believe what he was seeing on his sensors, full scale orbital assault on Mars. He knew exactly who it had to be. "Tor Yvresse..." he muttered. "Prepare the fleets for counter attack!" he gurgled into his vox unit. A chorus of "aye's!" greeted his response. "Vengeance! we will have our vengeance!" he bellowed.

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the 8 AF defence fleets number approximately 417 vessels now :( The 8th fleet retreated from Martian orbit as the attack began, moving to the asteroid field.

The AF Fleets moved out in full scale strategic deployment engaging the the Eldar vessels, the AF had problems targetting the vessels as they were so fast...but hopefully the ECM would give them just as much of a problem.

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Overlord Zhukat heard the news, he was shocked by the treachery of these Eldar bastards. He had ordered all wall defences to open fire on the approaching force..."Vaul engines! Damn them!" he cursed. He went to the top of the wall to direct the attack personally.

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The Hellespontos Defence wall opened fire, extreme long range Mega Cannons began to fire at the distant shapes of the Vaul engines...scoring many direct hits. Long range missiles were also targetting the approaching enemy, targetting was made difficult by the dust storm that was created by this attack.

***

Overlord Marduk stormed out of the front gates of the Hellespontos National Defence wall, Panzer Division "Marduk" had earned a fierce reputation as some of the most ruthless armoured formations on all of Mars...may'be even the Solar System.

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800 Super Heavy Tanks(Baneblades, Stormblades, etc, etc), supported by the 3 and 4th Mechanized Infantry legions advanced into the plains to engage these Xenos scum!

OOC:

Meanwhile I have no idea where the second ground attack is taking place

The Aelosian ships appeared from nowhere, exiting the warp in a silent, stealthy manner...They placed in the orbit near the heavy guns emplacements, still protected by their Dark Matter Shields.

The Captain approached the Admiral "Sire, in this position, if we turn on the ships, they will detect us"

Dux Admiral Atheril D'nan knew it, if they attack, or just turn on their engines, they could be detected and fired upon. But he just don't care anymore, the fleet was enough powerful to bring down most of the orbital defenses, taking into account the surprise factor. "I know. But anyway they won't have the opportunity to fire back"

The huge Aelosians fleets turn on their weaponry at the same time, the ships shining like a flock of fireflies when the thousands of lights appeared in their hulks.

The Admiral saw his targets once more in the thermal map. "Fire the pulsar lances and the Dark Matter cannons, target only military facilities and orbital defenses. Use all the firepower that we could afford, I want that part of the surface cleaned from those Mon-Keigh now"

The slim Eldar Battleships launched a barrage of fire against the surface, trying to destroy the ground batteries. The outer space was shining blue thanks to the overheat of the static laser energy in the area. The little, invisible balls of antimatter fired by the Dark Matter cannons flied through the orbit, aimed at the orbital defense systems.

The Aelosian ships appeared from nowhere, exiting the warp in a silent, stealthy manner...They placed in the orbit near the heavy guns emplacements, still protected by their Dark Matter Shields.

The Captain approached the Admiral "Sire, in this position, if we turn on the ships, they will detect us"

Dux Admiral Atheril D'nan knew it, if they attack, or just turn on their engines, they could be detected and fired upon. But he just don't care anymore, the fleet was enough powerful to bring down most of the orbital defenses, taking into account the surprise factor. "I know. But anyway they won't have the opportunity to fire back"

The huge Aelosians fleets turn on their weaponry at the same time, the ships shining like a flock of fireflies when the thousands of lights appeared in their hulks.

The Admiral saw his targets once more in the thermal map. "Fire the pulsar lances and the Dark Matter cannons, target only military facilities and orbital defenses. Use all the firepower that we could afford, I want that part of the surface cleaned from those Mon-Keigh now"

The slim Eldar Battleships launched a barrage of fire against the surface, trying to destroy the ground batteries. The outer space was shining blue thanks to the overheat of the static laser energy in the area. The little, invisible balls of antimatter fired by the Dark Matter cannons flied through the orbit, aimed at the orbital defense systems.

The Aelosian ships appeared from nowhere, exiting the warp in a silent, stealthy manner...They placed in the orbit near the heavy guns emplacements, still protected by their Dark Matter Shields.

The Captain approached the Admiral "Sire, in this position, if we turn on the ships, they will detect us"

Dux Admiral Atheril D'nan knew it, if they attack, or just turn on their engines, they could be detected and fired upon. But he just don't care anymore, the fleet was enough powerful to bring down most of the orbital defenses, taking into account the surprise factor. "I know. But anyway they won't have the opportunity to fire back"

The huge Aelosians fleets turn on their weaponry at the same time, the ships shining like a flock of fireflies when the thousands of lights appeared in their hulks.

The Admiral saw his targets once more in the thermal map. "Fire the pulsar lances and the Dark Matter cannons, target only military facilities and orbital defenses. Use all the firepower that we could afford, I want that part of the surface cleaned from those Mon-Keigh now"

The slim Eldar Battleships launched a barrage of fire against the surface, trying to destroy the ground batteries. The outer space was shining blue thanks to the overheat of the static laser energy in the area. The little, invisible balls of antimatter fired by the Dark Matter cannons flied through the orbit, aimed at the orbital defense systems.

The Aelosian ships appeared from nowhere, exiting the warp in a silent, stealthy manner...They placed in the orbit near the heavy guns emplacements, still protected by their Dark Matter Shields.

The Captain approached the Admiral "Sire, in this position, if we turn on the ships, they will detect us"

Dux Admiral Atheril D'nan knew it, if they attack, or just turn on their engines, they could be detected and fired upon. But he just don't care anymore, the fleet was enough powerful to bring down most of the orbital defenses, taking into account the surprise factor. "I know. But anyway they won't have the opportunity to fire back"

The huge Aelosians fleets turn on their weaponry at the same time, the ships shining like a flock of fireflies when the thousands of lights appeared in their hulks.

The Admiral saw his targets once more in the thermal map. "Fire the pulsar lances and the Dark Matter cannons, target only military facilities and orbital defenses. Use all the firepower that we could afford, I want that part of the surface cleaned from those Mon-Keigh now"

The slim Eldar Battleships launched a barrage of fire against the surface, trying to destroy the ground batteries. The outer space was shining blue thanks to the overheat of the static laser energy in the area. The little, invisible balls of antimatter fired by the Dark Matter cannons flied through the orbit, aimed at the orbital defense systems.

Nevermind...

Empress Redoran sat back in her throne. "So, the fools in Vascilia County are finally being crushed... Serves them right. They were almost as perverted as Bandon (curse his name)."

"M'Lady, do you wish us to become involved?"

"Vascilia County is strong, I do not deny that. However, to remain strong, they must all act in unison, working together. I do not see them as capable as such a feat. This war will show democracy's weakness. But no, we shall not get involved yet. I wish to see how this plays out, first. Perhaps later, we can grab some benefits from this..."

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ooc we arent Democratic, we are like the Soviet union. and Bajon, You are contractually Obligated to Defend us, as we are you ;)


"Fleet Commander Breschnev, Tor Yvresse Has declared war on Vascilia County, Your orders Please" The voice of the Weapons commander echoed through the intercom. " All crew Enter Sanctuaries or
or Seal Pressure suits, Depressurisation of Main hull to commence in 3 minutes, Lex Mechanic Anaryll Treesinger, Firing solutions on all Tor Yvressan Military targets in New Roan, Flight Captain Prepare ALL Alpha and Beta Veritech's for launch." Fleet Commander Breschnev, Ingelstung cannons magnetic containment Ready, At what capacity shall we charge fission Reactions?" the weapons Commander responded...."all Ikazucki Carriers Fire Ingelstung Fission Cascades at 100%, I repeat one hundred Percent....."


As they waited for the first wave of reinforcements, the massive cannons charged, Loaded fully with 5 200 Megaton Charges, [preparing to unleashe a Gamma-Xray Burst more destructive and Controlled then a
a hundred nuclear Bombs.

ooc i am at school right now, AF controls forces once again.

OOC: Your going to ignore Aelosia because you don't know who they are? I don't care how little time you have, that is a really bad reason to ignore someone. They happen to be an ally of Tor Yvresse. Now I would highly suggest you do not ignore their attack, before you find yourself ignored. Remember that fine line I mentioned earlier? You are straying toward the ignore side.

ooc we arent Democratic, we are like the Soviet union. and Bajon, You are contractually Obligated to Defend us, as we are you ;)

OOC:
Vascilia County is democratic, lots of nations with differant leaders. the League is a democracy.
Anyways, here are some things you need to understand about Bajon and our little "agreement."
1. I only agreed to defend you if the war was unprovoked. This is very much so provoked by VC.
2. We don't let agreements control us... AKA, "Since we don't like it now, screw you."

OOC: Your going to ignore Aelosia because you don't know who they are? I don't care how little time you have, that is a really bad reason to ignore someone. They happen to be an ally of Tor Yvresse. Now I would highly suggest you do not ignore their attack, before you find yourself ignored. Remember that fine line I mentioned earlier? You are straying toward the ignore side.

Whoops...I actually read all his posts, he just posted the same thing four times

ooc we arent Democratic, we are like the Soviet union. and Bajon, You are contractually Obligated to Defend us, as we are you ;)

OOC:
Vascilia County is democratic, lots of nations with differant leaders. the League is a democracy.
Anyways, here are some things you need to understand about Bajon and our little "agreement."
1. I only agreed to defend you if the war was unprovoked. This is very much so provoked by VC.
2. We don't let agreements control us... AKA, "Since we don't like it now, screw you."

Actually the Vascilian League is not a democracy at all Bajon, the other nations in the League have no real say at all in how things are run. What I say goes in the League...if they dont want to go along with what I say they get kicked out of the league its as simple as that.

As far as this war being unprovoked? thats bullshit Bajon and you know it! The Vascilian League seized that half of the country because Tor Yvresse has claimed many times that he will attack the League and "Teach us Mon Keigh a less" so really I think the seizure of half the country was really the apporpriate thing to do.

ooc we arent Democratic, we are like the Soviet union. and Bajon, You are contractually Obligated to Defend us, as we are you ;)

OOC:
Vascilia County is democratic, lots of nations with differant leaders. the League is a democracy.
Anyways, here are some things you need to understand about Bajon and our little "agreement."
1. I only agreed to defend you if the war was unprovoked. This is very much so provoked by VC.
2. We don't let agreements control us... AKA, "Since we don't like it now, screw you."

Actually the Vascilian League is not a democracy at all Bajon, the other nations in the League have no real say at all in how things are run. What I say goes in the League...if they dont want to go along with what I say they get kicked out of the league its as simple as that.

As far as this war being unprovoked? thats bullshit Bajon and you know it! The Vascilian League seized that half of the country because Tor Yvresse has claimed many times that he will attack the League and "Teach us Mon Keigh a less" so really I think the seizure of half the country was really the apporpriate thing to do.

No, you take his threats and call his bluff. Thats what you do in this situation. I've done it many times, and it has always worked. Not to mention, VC threatened everyone else with the Red Mars stuff. So you threaten MIDAS, TY threatens you back. You invade his land. Sounds to me like your the one at fault here. I don't want to argue about it, but thats what I've seen. And if I'm wrong, please read my second point about OOC things you should know about Bajon. :D Have a Nice Day

OOC:

As orbital defence systems can be hidden incredibly well on a planets surface Im going to keep the casualties light on them...considering they're in hardened silo's deep under ground makes them difficult to attack

Sorry for ignoring you Aelosia...I thought you made four posts without letting me respond.

IC:

Overlord Nohman had recieved reports that he had lost 5 of his 40 orbital defence energy cannons. The crews now facing two fleets decided to keep on targetting the Tor Yvresse fleet.

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Imperator Kinezki had another fleet on his strategic display, "God damn them!...Damn the enemy cannons! DESTROY TOR YVRESSE!" The AF Fleets began firing even more steadily into the Tor Yvresse fleet...determined to wipe it out.

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Panzer division "Marduk" had taken 10 losses to long range fire, but now they were in range to shoot back. 790 Super heavy tanks began to fire, long range, into the advancing Eldar forces.

OOC: Still keen to keep it MIDAS and VC only AF? Aelosia is not either...

OOC:

Well I would rather keep unknowns out of this...Aelosia isn't more powerful than the majority of Vascilian Nations so it wont be to bad. But I really wouldn't like any people just showing up eh?

Anyway...Im going to go out and do something, I'll be back on later. Probably when Tor Yvresse responds.

OOC: The problem is your ally just used WMD's on Mars. That is going to provoke a large responce. How about invite only, involved parties?

ooc: As I read it he hasn't used them just charged them up. We are definately going to consider such weapons WMD and will respond appropriately if they are fired.

And now my responce...

The Third Fleet reached range just as the AF fleet pulled out of the area. Immidiately the asteroids in tow were released. Each asteroid had been fitted with thrusters and been programmed to fly simaltaneously to their targets. After giving the commands the asteroids lit up as the thrusters fired, the asteroids moved toward their targets on the planet.
(ooc: note, these asteroids have been handpicked, after some of their mass has been burned of in the atmosphere no asteroid (meteor now) will be larger than 10m in diameter. We have been very careful to make sure not to wreak excessive damage.

As the asteroids moved off the fleet assembled itself into a defensive formation with the capitol ships in the middle surrounded by the smaller craft. The carriers and battlecrusiers opened up their fighter bays, the fighters shot out of their deployment runways and assumed protective patrols of the fleet.

The 1st fleet moved in to engage the orbital defences now targetting the TY forces, fighters already launched and moving at maximum burn they rocketed by targetting and engaging the stationary objects with deadly accuracy as they had been trained, (We were in the hundreds for best IT in the world)

The Destroyers, Heavy Crusiers, and Battlecrusiers began to charge their Naval Heavy Phased Charge Cannons.

(ooc: note, there are a total of 72 Naval Heavy PCC's in the fleet)

'I condemn the Farseer Council for starting this uneeded war. Let New Roan be divded, we do not need war on Mars. Mars has been relatively peaceful, we don't need a second Earth.

'Besides, unrest is brewing within our borders. The Khristian League and the Sirilthilists are demanding support for Tor Yvresse, whilst the Fronteir Clans and my own Toran Empire are demanding support for Vascilia County. We do not want war, yet it is inevitable that we join this war.

'I encourage all nations involved to come to the peace table before anyone else is needlessly killed. If we cannot negotiate, then we will take a vote between the major powers within the Martian Confederation. Yet be warned, as we are a Confederation, Nation States within our Confederation may act on their own, and the entire Confederation should not be punished for this. I will attempt to keep myself unbiased and calm the situation, yet I cannot promise either side anything at this moment.

'You will have our answer within a few hours.

'Thank You.'

--Zona Tora, Head of the Martian Confederation, Speaker of the Council

All 6 of the AF CASCADE asteroid defence cannons opened fire on the approaching orbital threats to 'Mars' destroying all but one, The largest and most dangerous of the asteroids remained untouched by the onslaught.

OOC:

The CASCADE Cannons are Automated, firing on any asteroids that come from the field...built by Vascilia County for the defence of Mars

The Corporation fully supports this action to pacify the backwater terrorists! The Vascilia League brought this upon themselves by not giving New Roan to their rightful owners....the Eldar.

In the spirit of of the New NGEN Corporation, we offer our assistance to the Eldar.....

However we do request that we are granted governing rights over a small portion of New Roan...

"It is time ot make our presence felt..."

Message to Martian Nations:
"Bajon will not actively become involved in this war, so you may all put away your elegant presentations appealing for our aid. However, Bajon will make its position known now. Any nation, not a member of Vascilia County, who actively supports Vascilia County in this war, will face Bajon. Any military action for the benefit of Vascilia County by said nations will be seen as an afront upon Bajon. Oh yes, my advisors told me not to say this, but I feel empowered to use the ancient earth phrase; supporters of Vascilia County, 'Bring It On.'"
-Empress Nisha Redoran
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The Anti-Funitist Air Force had been deployed fully and began engaging The fighters that had come through the atmosphere, already, due to the onslaught they had lost over 180 Fighter/Interceptors.

***

The AF Fleets had launched thousands of drones(800, 000 to be exact...yeah its a lot but they are dumb, so you'll kill lots. But remember, there are lots)

The 7th and 8th Fleets were ordered to retaliate against the newest threat...Pilon.

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7th and 8th fleets are about 120 ships in total...They lost 14 ships in the fighting so far.

The asteroid slams into the largest of the installations in the Helespontos Wall, the Asteroid was a full 10m in diameter and was moving at 35,000 Kph when it hit.

The Naval Heavy Phased Charge Cannons fire upon the wall now, unleashing their devastating energy, specifically targetting the cannons and anti-air installations on the wall. The fleet begins charging up for another volley.

OOC: If he gets a chance to use them.

IC:
"Mr. President - Sensor have detected Tannelorn charging an orbital weapon. Power output is in the 100kt range and growing."

Fidelo had been awakened moments earlier by a loud alarm. A thousand thoughts ran through his mind but the first one off his tongue was the simplest. "What's the target?"

"Roania, and Tor Yvresse's troops on the ground presumably." "Scrap it. You heard me. And get on the line with TYCS command and MIDAS command."

"In progress Mr. President."

Alarms went off inside Fleet command as Filbeck hit the big red button. Bulkheads slammed down, and in all the domes alarms wailed and emergency orders were sent to civil defense personnel. SDF officers ran for the armories and unsealed them to begin handing out heavy weapons to the populace. Armed men and women were already appearing on the streets. Sunset having no gun laws, they were armed with everything from projectile weapons to high end energy weapons. Civil Defense jackets, long kept in closets, were thrown over hastily donned pants or even pajamas.

Farther away from Mars orders went out to the various ships and battle groups that patrolled Sol. As the orders came in ships turned and went to warp, arriving minutes later around Mars. They would be joining a battle in progress...

Fidelo pulled his shirt on as he continue to talk to Filbeck. "Start evacuating the center of the domes - anyone in the gate cities is to be taken to Ares. Wait a minute - are the Farseers still there?" "I'll check. I would hope so."

Above Sunset...

Orders flooded into the bridges of the SDF ships in orbit - all 589 of them. Night crews were on duty, but even as the alarms sounded they were targetting the offending ship. Torpedos ran through their loaders and power surged to energy weapons as all systems were brought to full power.

On the ground, the hundreds of heavy planetary defense batteries came to full power as well. Their orders were the same, and their targetting arrays fell on the offending ship. Just like the fleet above, they would simply blow right through intervening ships if they didn't have a clear shot.

Then nearly simultaneously 800+ crimson lances leap across the open space to the offending vessel. There was a pause then, it seemed like a lifetime but it was far less than a second. The targetting computers picked out new targets for each ship, super-heavy cruisers targetting the larger ships and the smaller fleet cruisers targetting the smaller ships. Then massive waves of torpedos crossed the intervening space as each ship cut loose. While the loaders brought new torpedos into the tubes, the fleet began to move. They began to split, right down the center, and headed outward to the flanks of the opposing fleet, gaining speed. This of course brought their lateral torpedo arrays into action, and they cut loose with their loaded arrays. More torpedos poured across the intervening space - deadly capital ship killers gleaming like beads on a necklace as they closed with their targets.

OOC: 44th in IT.

Message to Pilon:
"Though I support your fight against Vascilia County, I detest your use of asteroids to bombard Mars. While it may be effective, there are several variables that I fear could cause harm to Mars. Have you considered that asteroids often contain undetectable space-born life forms which could harm the Martian Environment. Asteroids also may cause climatic changes, ruining the terraforming process in areas.
Also, the simple fact that you are orbitally bombarding the same planet Bajonis call home makes me worry. I am sure you can effectively cripple Vascilia County without resorting to ortillery. Take my considerations to heart, or Mars may face a much more grave danger than war..."
-Empress Nisha Redoran
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Several thousand Maki warriors made their way accross the desert, their helicoptors high above them, scanning for any Eldar patrols that might be out here in the wasteland. Their APC's and other AFV's came along with them. The number of warriors was at least 5, 000, no greater than 8, 000. Only a few dozen helicoptors, possibly 20 APC's, and 40 other AFV's. The force was small, yet fast and deadly.

Since the Fronteir Clans had already expanded beyond the boundries of the Martian Confederation, being the nomads that they are, they could strike easily against Yvressian New Roan.



The Clans struck with fury against one of the four counties owned by the Khristian Mining Corperation. Ambushing mining camps, miners were mowed down without relent. Hellicoptors and tanks making easy work of mining structures.

While further south on the front, tens of thousands of Toran soldiers along with their mechanized support were making huge gains and overrunning the surprised and unsuspecting miners. Casualtities were low for the soldiers, and high for the miners.

And even further south, more Toran troops began to pour into another County of the KMC. Yet here they were aided by suberb Utopian air support, the Utopians having perfected the use of jet technology in the arid, cold, Martian atmosphere. Clansmen warriors were also engaging the minors on this front, and the small Feifdom of Carloquentinnia was holding out against repeated air assualts made by KMC militia.

Khristian Leauge forces were making easy advances, the Martian Calvery being most loyal to them, they easily made coups in the 18 smaller Nation States that joined the Anti-Yveressian side. Governments were toppled, and many former nations soon were displaying the flag of the Khristian League.

The Pro-Yvressian forces were uncontested in space. So virtually no activity happened there.

Thousands of troops from the Khristian League were being poured in to defend the northern KMC territory which was under attack.

http://www.freewebs.com/adk_wwv/Martian%20Confederacy.bmp

Red = Khristian Mining Corperation (I used Red as the border for the Martian Confederation, also.)

Purple = Toran Empire

Grey = Sirithilists

Green = Fronteir Clans

Blue = Khristian League

Brown = Smaller states

Yellow = Bokalvyenian Utopia

Peach = Qalachovian Duchy

Salmon Pink = furthest extent of the Fronteir Clans

The Founder had ordered the attack on Pilon and Tor Yvresse using CASCADE Cannons. An adress was made to the public directly by the Founder...his first television appearance ever.

"My Beloved peoples, today we face the largest threat to our Sovreignty that we have ever faced. Our irstwhile Allies of Bajon have pledged to keep our true allies out of the war with military force, though we will not attack them we are disgusted by their cowardice. I have ordered the CASCADE Cannons to fire upon the very same people they were designed to protect. Such scum do not deserve to live under our protection! they will feel our wrath on this day...

One hundred and eighty years! one hundred ad eighty years ago today! Allanea and Belem fought to keep the word of our movement from spreading to the peoples of the world and your ancestors fought to preserve their rights to do so. Today I ask you all to honour their memory and do they same thing! I have called you all to battle! Rise up my children and defend your nation from these blasphemers!" The founder stumbled as if he were drunk, he looked up at the assembled audience and croaked one final thing..."Liberty or death!" The founder fell to the ground, dead.

The people of the Theocracy of Anti-Funitism seeing their leader die in front of them were outraged! incensed with fury they mobilised in the defence of their nation! every armed themselves and waited in their homes waiting for the inevitable attack to come! those who were in the army reserves were activated those who weren't affiliated with the military at all had formed Militia's

Old men and Children were not exempt from the mobilisation, they were formed into The Peoples defence legion, a corps of poorly trained and equipped people who would defend the very grounds of Vascilia City from attack.

The State army had been fully deployed in a defensive posture outside the Walls of their great city, these elite troops would be unmoving in their defence.

The Tithed Armies of the Overlords, as ramshackle as they were would form the core of the greatest army to ever be seen in the Theocracies history.

As a result of this massive mobilisation Production of most goods had ground to a halt, except for Weapons and food supplies. The Economy had collapsed almost over night...but no one cared! a sense of national brotherhood kept them going, These Colonials would be stopped if it were the last thing they did.

OOC:

Ok...now, Ive just dragooned a large portion of the Population into the military. I mentioned the State Army, The Overlords, The Citizen Militia and the Peoples Defence Legion. I will explain them to you...

The State Army: Highly Equipped, Highly Motivated and unswerving in their dedication to the Founder(May the Machine God rest his bones) They were formed out of the original army of the Theocracy.

The Tithed Armies: Later on after the formation of the Theocracy on Mars people from all over came to seek the protection of the State Army and the Government, protection from their evil Colonial Overlords. The Tithed army was formed by the government to provide security for the various groups of refugee's that came to the country...It was formed from the most healthy of the Refugee's. Each Overlord of the force is also a political leader, the leader of a District in the AF. Each district is home to a distinct Ethnic group that all share one thing in Common...Their Hatred for Colonial Powers. They have differing levels of training and equipment but all share determination and ruthlessness.

Citizen Militia: Non-Important industry was shut down at the break out of the war, a lot of workers were put out by this and insensed by Propaganda felt duty to the late founder to protect the nation. Each and every citizen in the Theocracy of Anti-Funitism is required to own a fire arm. They have guns, and basic training due to the AF Initiative of training school children the basics of warfare in Physical education class.

Peoples Defence Legion: The absolute last line of defence, Made up of children aged 8-14 and old men aged 48-80, these people are equipped very badly and are guaranteed to have poor morale...

At the Moment things for the Theocracy look bad, that because the majority of my buddies in Vascilia County have school and cant respond much...so I have to do the brunt of the fight :roll:

anywho...this is going to be interesting.

OOC:

Meanwhile...Pilon needs to post losses, I already did ;)

Yargh...this is going to end bad for me, but remember Im not handing over passwords or nothing of the sort. The only way this war will end is with alot of dead Theocratists and a hell of alot more bitterness on our end.

OOC: You need to post losses AF - the entire fleet just opened up on you.

We too echo the Technocrats concerns. We do not want anything undue to happen to our 1 million scientists, terrafarmers, hunters etc. Meanwhile on Mars the shield levels have just kicked up a notch and the 1st and 2nd Orbital Armies have been alerted.

Master Admiral Greer was sitting in his command chair on the Therian Worldship Tyrant's Rule, brooding. MIDAS is just up and running, and already we get ourselves into a war. He turns to his communications officer. "Comm, tell the fleet it is time. Have all non-combatants transferred to their respective Worldships, and get all our non-combatants trnasferred there too. Tell battle groups 43 through 52 to cover the other Worldships when they jump to the safe zone. And get me a line to MIDAS command."

"Yes sir."

The Admiral keys the comm unit in his chair. "MIDAS command, this is Master Admiral Greer of the Therian Space Force. Where would you like us to jump in?"

The comm officer turns back to the admiral. "Sir, the fleet is ready."

"Good. Have the non-combatants jump now. We give MIDAS command 15 minutes before we jump in, Hosts leading."

"Yes sir."

****

Outside, the Therian nation floats in space. 50 huge ships were surrounded by a cloud of smaller vessels. Most of the larger ships break off, with a like number of smaller ships following them out. In a flash of light, they dissapear, leaving the largest of the ships surrounded by over 200 smaller ships. The smaller ships group up into groups of 5, and form up around the large ship. They sit there, awaiting intructions.

OOC:

Yargh...I just noticed.

IC:

"IMPERATOR!" yelled his second officer "We have lost the 2nd and 4th fleets due to ground fire!" The Imperator was not pleased, this was to much for his force to take. "I want a fighting withdrawal! target the closest vessels and keep firing until we are in the asteroid belt. If they choose to pursue tell the fleets to go on full stealth maneuvers!" ordered Kinezki.

ok...Im down to...287 ships! yikes.

Message to Pilon:
"Though I support your fight against Vascilia County, I detest your use of asteroids to bombard Mars. While it may be effective, there are several variables that I fear could cause harm to Mars. Have you considered that asteroids often contain undetectable space-born life forms which could harm the Martian Environment. Asteroids also may cause climatic changes, ruining the terraforming process in areas.
Also, the simple fact that you are orbitally bombarding the same planet Bajonis call home makes me worry. I am sure you can effectively cripple Vascilia County without resorting to ortillery. Take my considerations to heart, or Mars may face a much more grave danger than war..."
-Empress Nisha Redoran
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It is because of all of these facts, of which we were already well aware, that we chose to use small asteroids. We wanted to minimize the damage done while still retaining to maximum effect upon our targets, the Asteroids were a diversion anyways, we were trying to minimize Pilonese losses in orbit, it worked. We do not intend to use any more asteroids, after this is all over Pilon will study the effects of the asteroids and take action to counteract the negative side effects of their use.

We cannot allow this to happen! We shall "donate" ten full regiments of the Emperor's warriors, including two Space Marines detachments of the most holy Dark Angels chapter. Use these forces well, and we hope to see the blood of the Eldar splattered throughout Mars. They shall arrive at Vascilian orbit soon....

1 standard Regiment
2,500 Guardsman with 10 tanks each

Along with 50 Space Marines.

6 Cascade Cannons opened fire on Pilon and Yvresse Roan, They had been overpowered and fired too quickly, they destroyed themselves by doing so.

But 4 of them managed to fire at Pilon and Yvresse forces(3 in pilon one in Roan...its upto the defender to post where the damage is done)

***
Pilon:
An asteroid collided with the northern most district of Vascilia City, ripping a hole in it that would never be repaired, 4 million civilians were killed in the attack, Enraging the defenders.(The city houses all of the AF's population, spanning over a very large distance)

The Hellespontos defence wall was strafed by a Pilonese orbital strike, it killed 2000 of the the walls defenders but surprisingly enough left the wall unharmed. The Walls orbital defences lit up immediately after the attack, striking at the previously unknown orbital targets.

Sunset:

The Imperators own fleet had several targetting solutions on Sunset vessels and began to fire, 3 vessels were visible to 40, The Combined fleets had lost 200, 000 drone fighters.

But 600, 000 of those drones were still active...targetting the most threatening vessels.

We cannot allow this to happen! We shall "donate" ten full regiments of the Emperor's warriors, including two Space Marines detachments of the most holy Dark Angels chapter. Use these forces well, and we hope to see the blood of the Eldar splattered throughout Mars. They shall arrive at Vascilian orbit soon....

1 standard Regiment
2,500 Guardsman with 10 tanks each

Along with 50 Space Marines.

Thanks for the help, Guardsman have to stick together.

um... The asteroid was headed for the Helespontos wall not Vascilia.

um... The asteroid was headed for the Helespontos wall not Vascilia.

um... The asteroid was headed for the Helespontos wall not Vascilia.

Well...a miscalculation in your targetting made it go for Vascilia. Something for your generals to analyse for the future use of Asteroids. But yeah...post your losses already.

Let me explain better...the Hellespontos wall is an extension of the Vascilia Defence wall. The Vascilian wall was an extension of the AF Defence wall. The AF Defence wall was hit in the north. The Defence wall is on hundreds of metres away from the outermost part of Vascilia City.

OOC: These must be really weak drones to have that many of them. Like paper with a rocket motor. Note that we don't fight face to face battles, the drones will have travel time, and considering their cost they either have low range or pathetic weapons. Your choice.

IC:

"Incoming drones. A lot of them." Admiral Wick was on the bridge of a FireBlossom-II in the thick of the fleet. The drones had begun moving outward, but they were falling behind in the overall race to catch the fleet as they accelerated to attack speed. Torpedos continued to speed across the screen as he watched the lateral view.

"New orders in from Fleet - Sensors show a VC fleet is heading for the belt. Orders are to destroy them."

"Very well - helm - coordinate with the other SBG's. Lets come out on top of them. Relay the ship data to the other ships, 1 ship per opposing vessel."

The SBG pulled out of the fleet cloud, along with the 29 other SBG's in the Rapid Response Force. They were all FireBlossom-II's and Cohort-III's, the most powerful capital ships the Republic had. In a flash they all went to warp a minute later. 150 ships would pop out 100,000km above their opponent in 2 minutes. (It's 30 minutes to the belt at good sublight FYI)

The rest of the fleet continued firing wide spreads of phaser fire into the drones as they approached. Captains fired spreads of torpedos across the line of incoming drones, set to proximity detonation. Fighters treated the drones like missiles, engaging them at long range with the anti-missile tri-barrels below the fusalage. Lines of cyan death would plow through one and into another. Other captains simply turned on the forward tractor arrays and used them like giant flyswatters, catching masses of drones and smashing them together at long range. Their light weight worked against them - the tractors could grab at 2-3000km considering their small mass and wide number of targets.

The 3 ships that had somehow wandered into VC weapons range quickly retreated as they came under fire - shields shuddered and buckled, secondary shields snapping into place and draining away as well. One went up in a fireball, short and sharp in the depths of space. The other two took heavy damage, one looking guidance and racing through the Republic lines. The other wasn't even able to correct it's course, and continued flying away, the crew pouring as much fire as possible into the opposing fleet before it died in a core breach.

Filbeck watched the action from the command center - they were retreating, and perhaps attempting to draw them into a trap. She opened a channel, and Admiral Burgess picked up. "Admiral Filbeck - Are you needing reinforcements already?" "Not yet. I do need a full sensor sweep along these coordinates though." "Call it done - I'll send it in." The 5 Venture Class Explorers in the 3rd SEG turned their powerful sensor arrays in the direction of the VC retreat, examining every inch of space for anything. Nothing could escape their notice.

ack stupid NS forums ate my post...

To sum it up AF, you destroyed 25 Corvettes, 3 Destoyers, 1 Heavy Crusier, you have dealt moderate damage to 2 more Heavy Crusiers and they are withdrawing from battle. You have also destroyed 21 Fighters.
I want to get this out to you ASAP so sorry about the lack of detail, I had a nice post and it was eaten by the NS demon.

Also we sent a message to Kinslayer and request that they help us engage orbital ships and destroy ground batteries.

OOC:

The Drones have low range, good guns. They just float around the ship they came from and intercept things.

IC:

Imperator Kinezki hailed the commander of the Tannelornian Space Fleet. "Prince Jan, I believe this is where you come to the resuce?" there was a rather large explosion visible out the port viewing window as an AF Vessel was destroyed.

***

3 more ships were destroyed in the retreat.

The AF Fleet opened fire on the Approaching Sunset vessels, scoring many direct hits, 280 AF Ships survived.

OOC: On which Sunset ships? Perhaps you should clarify. There are two groups - one moving at warp (can't be shot at, reasonably) and one group at Mars. The group at Mars is not approaching - they are firing at range.

And a minor quibble - you should be taking a lot more damage in your retreat. You are facing three nations that are older and larger than you. If it were possible for me to be in this situation I would be taking dozens of losses. Our ships are more advanced, pack a lot more firepower, and have much better defenses than yours.

Aboard the Tyrant's Rule, Master Admiral Greer finally grew fed up with waiting for the MIDAS command to respond. He keys his comm unit again, broadcasting his voice through the entire fleet. "Alright, here we go. We are going in hot, and we are going in blind. Till the stars die, and the universe turns black. Fight well."

*****

The Therian battle fleet tightens their formations, and shields can be seen sprouting up around each ship. They seem to stand still, then leap forward in a flash of light.

*****

The fleet appears "above" the battle that is going on, well out of gun range. Admiral Greer smiles. "Deploy the fighters, send half out to join that killball and tell the rest to make strafing runs on the enemy capital ships. Standard assualt, missles until we close to gun range. Wait, keep Tyrant's squadrons here to keep any fighters off us."

12,000 fighters exit their launchbays and light their engines, half splitting off towords the dogfight and half towords the AF capital ships.

Suddenly, thousands of lights spring up, missles launching themselves towords the AF fleet. The capital ship engines light up, and the battle fleet closes on the engagement. Ten perfectly round ships leap ahead of the rest, bearing down on the fleet on a collision course.

OOC: Time to see how the amoeba works in combat :twisted:

the AF ships Sensor Screens lit up with Friendly indicator, showing the arrival of the First wave of the Tannelorn Space Navies Katana Missile Carriers, Launching all Fighters and Missiles while slipping out of the Urenbecht Catapults Distortion Screen, Lex Mechanics Already having excellent Firing angles due to the AF ships Targeting Vectors. of the Dozens of Katana Carriers, their were also ten of the Shadow black Stealth Garfish high speed Troop Carriers of the Naval Marines. thousands of Missiles and hundreds of Fighters Cleared the launch bays of the nimble destroyer sized craft, the ranges now were not in the hundreds of thousands of kilometres, but in the thousands of kilometres.


Several Massive high energy buildups were the only indication of the presence of the Ikazucki Fleet, The Ingelstung Main cannons primed and ready, targets already chosen......


"All ingelstung Cannons at 120% capacity sir" a Lilting Female Eldar Voice called out on theVessels of the Sunset Navy, Lets see their walls
brdge of the Eternal, The new Flagship of Tannelorn." Excellent, Fire on the most heavily shielded Vessels." The energy buildups of the Tannelorn
Ikazucki CArriers, a kilometre long example of the most advanced technologies in Vascilia county, Armed to represent it, were staggering.....
At once 15 2 km wide bolts of energy fired on the largest of the Sunset vessels, from the concealment the asteroid field. While literally thousands of the Highly advanced and Deadly Tannelorn TVAF fighters and TVBF fighter bombers screamed in to the attack.


ooc note, this is a surprise concealed attack, My technology is based of Bajonni Technology which i stole and therefore is the most advanced tech in the league....their was no warning and the ships that fired, the Ingelstungs are also VERY powerful...in RL science...this is a devastating counter attack from the most advanced, RP Wise, and according to all of the requirements.....

um... The asteroid was headed for the Helespontos wall not Vascilia.

Well...a miscalculation in your targetting made it go for Vascilia. Something for your generals to analyse for the future use of Asteroids. But yeah...post your losses already.

Let me explain better...the Hellespontos wall is an extension of the Vascilia Defence wall. The Vascilian wall was an extension of the AF Defence wall. The AF Defence wall was hit in the north. The Defence wall is on hundreds of metres away from the outermost part of Vascilia City.

I don't want to argue with you about this but I want to let it be known that I disagree.

OOC: And would be completely noticed by someone my size and age. Perhaps you didn't notice the post that said I was scanning the entire retreat route either - they would certainly notice the bases and alert the inbound fleet.

Expecting a surprise attack from the asteroid belt the Pilonese reserve 4th-6th fleets jumped out of hyperspace guns blazing. They were waiting for the Tannelorn ships to come out and attack and projected the most likely form of attack to be on the Sunset ships so they moved in Hyperspace to intercept the ambush. As the Tannelorn ships made their moves Pilonese ships left hyperspace at the new threat's flank and immediately opened fire. The fighters left the fighter bays and stormed toward the enemy.

The Imperator confident in his reinforcements launched a counter offensive directly towards the Kinslayer, 3 ships were heavily damaged and forced to remain behind. The majority of the missiles were shot down by the swarm of the unmanned drones.

"Deploy the manned fighters, the Kinslayer will pay for his cowardice." 800 Manned fighters of the Elite AF Space Aviation corps. They engaged the enemy fighters, using the the Swarm of drones as cover. "The Kinslayer is weak! we will route his pitiful forces in the name of the Founer! For his memory we shall destroy these Blashphemers!" Yelled Imperator Kinezki.

Expecting a surprise attack from the asteroid belt the Pilonese reserve 4th-6th fleets jumped out of hyperspace guns blazing. They were waiting for the Tannelorn ships to come out and attack and projected the most likely form of attack to be on the Sunset ships so they moved in Hyperspace to intercept the ambush. As the Tannelorn ships made their moves Pilonese ships left hyperspace at the new threat's flank and immediately opened fire. The fighters left the fighter bays and stormed toward the enemy.

BULL!!!

SHENANIGANS! SHENANIGANS! BULL! I CALL SHENANIGANS!

Sorry guy, but your fleet is already engaged you didn't expect an attack because honestly thats lame...Take the damn loss its called Drama, expecting every single move is stupid, take the hits you will win just post your damn losses and let us have this one...We're totally outnumbered here.


Also...about disagreeing with the asteroid strike, It doesn't matter because its the facts.

The Pilonese 2nd fleet now moved in to attack the ships engaging the Kinslayer forces. Fighters already deployed began targetting the fighters. The Corvettes launched thousands of Gravitic Mines toward the clouds of drones. They then moved in to attack the manned fighters. The rest of the fleet moved in as support for the fighter killers.

The Drones detecting the mines opened fire, destroying a signifigant number. 1400 drones were destroyed.

OOC:

Anyway...Im going to bed, Im unimpressed by the comparative lack of losses on your side, We launched a counter attack that for some reason the Pilonese managed to fore see(Bullshit)

We know we have lost here, but you guys could take more losses...IE Sunset having three ships shot at by 40 and only taking one loss.

Oh well, this is enough for tonight.

Tor Yvresse when you see this post losses...I already got mine down

As the drones were distracted by the mines the Corvettes moved in, targetting them easily. The rest of the fleets followed the Corvettes cleaning up after them but allowing the Corvettes to plow the way for them.

As the drones were distracted by the mines the Corvettes moved in, targetting them easily. The rest of the fleets followed the Corvettes cleaning up after them but allowing the Corvettes to plow the way for them.

The drones surrounded the Ships...uhm, moving in and "Clearing up" would be shooting at your ships. So if you want to put your little corvettes up against 3 battleships and assorted Cruisers, Destroyers and Frigates go for it.

The Drones were Basically Point defence guns.

CNN
Good evening, after a rather heated debate, the NGEN Corporation has declared war against the VC. "These terrorist activities within the VC must not be allowed to continue! Their terroristic ways ends now!" says our wise CEO.

We do know that NGEN Corp has begun calling up several Mercenary Divisions, where they are to be deployed at this time is not known

As the drones were distracted by the mines the Corvettes moved in, targetting them easily. The rest of the fleets followed the Corvettes cleaning up after them but allowing the Corvettes to plow the way for them.

The drones surrounded the Ships...uhm, moving in and "Clearing up" would be shooting at your ships. So if you want to put your little corvettes up against 3 battleships and assorted Cruisers, Destroyers and Frigates go for it.

The Drones were Basically Point defence guns.

We have more than one firing arc we can use, we don't fire in the directions of our ships, if the surround us that will only help in speeding up the process of cleaning them up. Oh and if you have capitol ships the rest of the fleet will be moving in to engage them.

One more thing, our ships are making sure to stay more than 10,000 Kms from the surface of the planet.

ooc Sunset Losses please, and no you wouldnt notice, a 30 second urenbeck jump and powered down ships in an asteroid field....their is no way your magic sensors would see them, considering i use mentats and i wouldnt be able to see them [ Beef industry is top 200, so GE and info tech] Asteroid fields screw things up, second, My ships dont miss very often because of the, at least according to the RP tips, i have very good sensors and Battle Comps [Lex Mechanics] So which 15 big ships bought it, and how much damage did the 100 missile cruisers equivalent to the defiant do!!!!!!!!! not to mention Fighters capable of harming your big ships attacking in their thousands........with their superior GE pilots.....and if you say the shields held against ingelstung....lets just say that my ikazuckis are as well armed as the Reman Scimitar, as it is actually a warships, and the RL weapon i use ingelstung Fission cascade is almost identical in effect to shinzons ships main cannon and the AF force is still throwing out
MASSIVE interference, so lets get on with this, oh and this is only half my fleet engaged, Eternal has not arrived....the STC[Space time Compression system] is still warming up. Sorry for tech wanking but i feel the need to right now, because avoiding my surprise attack is god moding, remember the Kobayashi maru.... oh and i am off till tommorow its 10 45pm for me right now, and i will be back on at 3 00 pm tommorow. Remember i know your fleet is good, but my fleet is very well funded, huge and very good, it gets a combined budget of 10 trillion [Marines get 5, army gets 5 R&D gets 5] So list losses and we will hold, I imagine myself losing about 10 of the missile carriers almost immediately, they would launch fighters, blast a few holes in a few ships and fling a few missiles then die as the first targets sunset saw ;) and even if it wasnt sneak, i had firing angles given to me by my esteemed colleagues and the moment the ships arrived. plus i use Lex mechanics, or human computers which in RL would be MUCH faster then Battle comps

As the drones were distracted by the mines the Corvettes moved in, targetting them easily. The rest of the fleets followed the Corvettes cleaning up after them but allowing the Corvettes to plow the way for them.

The drones surrounded the Ships...uhm, moving in and "Clearing up" would be shooting at your ships. So if you want to put your little corvettes up against 3 battleships and assorted Cruisers, Destroyers and Frigates go for it.

The Drones were Basically Point defence guns.

We have more than one firing arc we can use, we don't fire in the directions of our ships, if the surround us that will only help in speeding up the process of cleaning them up. Oh and if you have capitol ships the rest of the fleet will be moving in to engage them.


Right...so you are charging directly at my fleet then? but only shooting my drones? Please post your losses then. I expect them to be heavy.

MEANWHILE!

Sunset...You were snuck up on admit it, Your boys thinking victory was at hand launched an attack on the hoplessly out numbered AF Fleet. Thinking the asteroid belt was clear they went whole hearted into attacking AF Ships, then suddenly they are destroyed.

Ive taken major losses at your hands Sunset and you're Godmoding here "My ships are the greatest cause I have a billion people in my country" doesn't matter Sunset cause Ive seen your tax % and you still dont get enough tax revenue out of it.

Tannelorns ships fired from concealed locations, its good RP. Bad RP(an example) 40 ships fire at 3 of mine, 1 is destroyed.

Quit it with your holier than thou stuff, you are going to easily destroy our fleet...We put way to much money into it for that to happen.

Tannelorn post your losses as well, my ships surprise attacked your ships as we were waiting for them to come out and attack the Sunset ships, it was obvious that you were going to do it.

OOC: A large unspoken rule of NS, and especially war RP, is that the older you are, the better you are. This is quite reasonable really - responsible older nations determine the 'power level' of NS, for each time period, through their RP. At this point both AF and Tannelorn are trying to punch way above their weight, and their opponents are being quite gracious IMO. Many of the older nations would have flat out ignored both of you for the 800,000 drones the second it appeared. Many others would ignore you for not taking proper damage from superior forces.

Now - if I might poke a big hole in a previous statement. Bajon was once a member of the Dominion. Sunset, as a ToY nation, kept a very close eye on Bajon intelligence wise. A cloaking device would be noticed, analyzed, and defeated.

Also, don't declare my movement for me. The Republic forces never arrived at the asteroid belt - as posted they suspected a trap. They will intercept the AF fleet 1/2 the way there, and the Venture's will pick up the fleet in the field.

ooc: You took the words right out of my mouth Sunset, though I am much more willing to work with people than most. Comes from 9 years of Freeforming I guess...

We cannot allow this to happen! We shall "donate" ten full regiments of the Emperor's warriors, including two Space Marines detachments of the most holy Dark Angels chapter. Use these forces well, and we hope to see the blood of the Eldar splattered throughout Mars. They shall arrive at Vascilian orbit soon....

No, no they won't.

They're going to be called back, or they're going to be blown up before reaching Mars; your choice.

The Confederacy of Ravenspire will act as necessary to contain this conflict. Forces from nations outside the Mars region are not welcome.

Sakura Kitsuki

Once more, I reiterate Roania's complete neutrality to all events on the surface of Mars.

If it is wished, a sum of 50 billion dollars will be dispatched to Tor Yvresse, for the purpose of ending this foolishness over the area of land formerly known as New Roan.

I call all combatants to Pinnacle Base, where we will discuss this as adults.

~Base Commander Terence.

"The situation that is unfoldign here troubles us greatly. We have no interest in going to war with either side, but if we are attacked we will reply. The 1st Mars Mechanized Regiment has been mobilized to defend our borders, and teh Colonial Air Defence Corps has been put on alert. Do not force us to use them."

-Indiastan Foreign Ministry

((OOC post removed I was OOC misunderstanding the situation in space.))

Once more, I reiterate Roania's complete neutrality to all events on the surface of Mars.

If it is wished, a sum of 50 billion dollars will be dispatched to Tor Yvresse, for the purpose of ending this foolishness over the area of land formerly known as New Roan.

I call all combatants to Pinnacle Base, where we will discuss this as adults.

~Base Commander Terence.

(OOC: Heh. There is nothing better for not being attacked that keep your mouth shut. So much work done in my absence, so much to do. I had made any move well before, but I still don't have DSL at home.)

Colonial Fleet Admiral Darth Thalassa turned his gaze away from the holotank depicting the ongoing battle to face his aide.

"Noisy, aren't they?"

"Yes, sir. Quite. And dangerous."

"Oh, yes, indeed. But they have made a mistake. They have not attacked us. It is time for us to move. Polarize shields! Fire the Yamato Guns!"

The eight Helios-class battlecruisers opened simultaneous fire over their designated targets.

(OOC:
Yamato Cannon (Special Weapon, can be fired only once every 15 minutes depending on energy usage, does damage comparable to a small nuclear blast.)
For the BattleTech fans, I asked around and the Yamato Gun is a Naval-class Particle Projection Cannon (NPPC), the highest weapon of the BT universe, second only to nuclears. Used only against Warships and for planetary bombardment.

Designated targets:

Three of the battlecruisers have been busy pinpoiting all of the firing anti-orbital guns, and now they are firing against those spots. The other five are bombarding the area of VC that is in contact with the (former?) Hellas Basin Sea (look at the updated map). It is actually a containment action, push you back to the south pole, and stay there, but is also a way of making you notice my forces and divert some forces from either the battle or the ones defending your territory, may be leaving a hole somewhere for someone else to take advantage of. Of course, If you do not send someone against me, I'll keep firing the guns every 15 minutes of a NS-day till your forces are out of the inner sea area and I have blown up all your anti-orbital gun emplacements. When both objectives have been achieved, my ships will simply stop, but you don't know that. :)

Oh, and the troop movements I had been doing, as I don't intend to have any territorial gain, they will stay at home, but they still seem readying for a hot deployment. Ignore them at your own IC risk, as you ICly don't know if they are really going to attack or not. If I can, I'll log in again this afternoon, if not, see ya tomorrow.)

OOC: Well, I tried. Enjoy yourselves.

((it's started Ro, now it has to reach a sense of victory for one side or the other to make a point the offer was too late))

IC Ground Warfare armoured Coloumn (I.E Vaul Engines and Co)

The defence fire from the Defence wall began to rain down upon the armoured coloumn and even occasionary impacted on a Vaul engine eventually one of the Wraithknight Class went down to the fire power, and another began to fall back it's Jump Engines out of commision it would fall back for repairs.

Still the Eldar advanced and soon the Wraithknights where within range of the wall, but held off firing untill...

A Horrendous Roar as 22 Titans Took to the air in a display of shear Power Jump Jets straining under the pressure as several Tonnes worth of Wraithbone defied Gravity for the briefest of time... Underneath the Holo Fields the pilots strained and twisted as the knights prepared for the impact...

THUD all Remaining 22 Vaul Engines landed within a space of a few seconds, on top of the wall and near, if not on top of the Defence Lasers, and cannons that had been so threatening them...

CRASH As all 22 Vaul Engines drove fists into the enemy towers and Rip as they withdrew the fists pulling up Metal and men before another whoosh as Jump Jets where switched back on and the Knights where gone behind the walls... and now the Six Larger Vaul Engines opened fire Force lances and other Lances of pure Energy flew towards the walls The Fist of the Eldar had arrived.

Infantry Front

Observers would be confused as The Eldar moved closer to the vascilian lines and sent of small groups which later returned yet they where never in fire range...

Then the entirety of the Eldar's Infantry disappered back into the Web, they would reappear later elsewhere and the cycle continued... when they would attack was as of yet unknown yet what was known was that in this way they reappeared often in a completly different part of the Border between (TY)New Roan and the (V) New Roan.

((Yep that was why the Target of the Infantry force was left vague they are not yet attacking they are popping up making sure you have detected them and then leaving, Imagine the effect on your deployment, where will we strike where to concentrate your forces etc.))

We cannot allow this to happen! We shall "donate" ten full regiments of the Emperor's warriors, including two Space Marines detachments of the most holy Dark Angels chapter. Use these forces well, and we hope to see the blood of the Eldar splattered throughout Mars. They shall arrive at Vascilian orbit soon....

No, no they won't.

They're going to be called back, or they're going to be blown up before reaching Mars; your choice.

The Confederacy of Ravenspire will act as necessary to contain this conflict. Forces from nations outside the Mars region are not welcome.

Sakura Kitsuki
You're a bit late now...you can't stop the forces of his most divine majesty!

OOC Imperial Guard whn your vessels achieve Martian Orbit halt OOCly as I will have something to do about that when they arrive, my last card in space... Lahlahlah.

You're a bit late now...you can't stop the forces of his most divine majesty!

Oh, aye? There are four fleets that think otherwise.

Maybe they didn't tell you... in Ravenspire, we know how to kill gods. Took care of ours long ago. 8)

Not too late to turn back, yet...

Sakura Kitsuki

OOC: Sorry for the delay, I don't mean to godmode, I posted an attack and I didn't post my losses. I'm really sorry. I will fix it right now. By the way, Who is ignoring me, anyway?

IC:

Two corvettes were hitted by the asteroids right in their power cores, dissapearing in a cloud of gas and a ball of energy. The Dark Matter reactors exploded and dragged five gunships and several ordnances into the gravity field, leaving no trace...

The Admiral saw the destruction right ahead, and the asteroids aimed against the capital ships "Turn off all weaponry, and turn on the gravity fields, that will save us from those asteroids, and let's get the hell out of here, now!"

*bump*
ooc: were my ships at pilon>??

Cairntarra, your ships have been moving about on humanitarian aid missions I would guess, sorry I forgot about them.

OOC: This 'fighting retreat' of VC's - is it being done at sublight, or light speeds? If it was done at sublight, I've got anywhere from 10-30 minutes to pound on them before they even get close to the asteroid belt. If it was done at FTL, it can't be much of a fighting retreat. Unless you have a real-space method of FTL.

This might modify the current post, but I doubt it. The RRG has a single target to eliminate - if the retreat is done at FTL they will not attack until they get solid intelligence on what is ahead of them.

The drones are defense vessels - in effect extra armor. They sit there and take damage, or fire on incoming ships. Please note we don't do face to face combat like that (But don't assume we can't either...) so losses from the drones would be negligable. If this assessment is wrong, you should include a lot more detail in your posts when using them.

Please note that the asteroid belt - while being a belt - is not the cluttered space you imagine it to be. There are plenty of rocks floating there, but they are not the huge jumbles you imagine. Overall the asteroids in Sol system so far discovered have less mass total than the moon. Spread that out over large portions of the belt, and you will find you have very sparse 'cover'.

Yes - I am still going to ignore the cloaked attack. It was using tech we would be quite well aqquanted with, and Tannelorn of all people should know that. Said information would also be passed onto our allies as part of the MIDAS treaty, meaning they would know about it as well.

BTW: Kinslayer's people are not human, and are highly augemented to boot. Pilon's are human, but are also augemented. Republic pilots are not - they just have superior tech that makes it unneeded.

IC:
Instead of following the VC ships toward the belt, the Republic fleet aside from the Rapid Response Force turned and fired off one last volley from their rear tubes. Taking up positions around Mars they methodically went to work on the defense batteries, hammering at them from orbit. Pinpoint strikes from 30-40 ships at a time from oblique angles carved through rock to reach the batteries themselves. Now that the batteries had fired, their positions were known and they could be eliminated slowly and carefully.

A further 8 ships had been damaged or destroyed firing into the retreating ships, despite the general policy of rotating ships to the front and back of the fleet clouds to prevent too much damage on one single ship. Recovery cruisers hurried to grab those that were damaged - most were taken to warp and to Trium shipyards on the Ring for repairs.

Other ships were stirring around Saturn as well. TYCS fleets were coming to alert status, as well as a cluster of StarLancers. Used during the war on Sketch to great effect, many had been recovered and more had been built. They were smaller than the original models, but they used many of the same components. No target was awaiting them... Yet.

((OOC doh unaware that he was making a fighting retreat, okay slight change to my previous post, gah Note to self Pay more attention, time pressure was not an issue you could have returned after the Lecture))

As the VC Fleet begins to retreat the The First and Second Fleets Follow along with fighters while the remaining 3rd Fleet took up Orbit and began to search for Military Targets, watching the Ground forces of VC within New Roan with great care, transmitting information down to the Infantry Force almost constantly.

They hunted for a weak spot, a place where the VC forces where stretched thin, Orbital Reconnaissance being utilised to maximum effect. scanners hunted for the any sign all was then sifted through Computers and through Mel'Nais herself. Trucks where counted, Radio Transmissions each variable was analysied both seperatly and in groups, a match of 4 seperate figures was needed for an estimate to be added, if two matches where calculated for the same region the Larger of the two was used.

Meanwhile Tor Yvresse's Fleet gave chase, and from the belt the Ishar's Love Fleet came out to meet the VC fleet from infront even as it was closed upon from behind. The signal was still sent of course but this time the matter was rather different.

Man, I guess AF doesn't come on until later...

Man, I guess AF doesn't come on until later...

OOC Yep guess so well another hour or two then I have to be off, to sleep and write my Dist synopsis. gah Real life.

Alone in her office The Voice of the Council's lip curled in disgust as she scanned the intel readout she was getting. "And they wondered why we didn't join the MIDAS treaty? Bah! Idiots!"

A few moment later she was on the air, calming the populace and relaying the Council's orders.

Mangala's borders are to be sealed, no one goes in, no one goes out, without proper authorization. The Grand Canal's locks have been, well, locked. The Mangalan fleet, such as it is, has been split. Half of the fleet has been deployed defensivly to protect Mangalan assets on the planet. The remaining half is broacasting a neutral signal and working to aid civilian and commercial traffic in the area. If this battle is raging from Martian orbit to the asteroid belt there will be a heck of a lot of cleanup to do. Any damaged combatant vessel that requests aid will also be helped by Mangalan ships, but will be impounded until the end of the conflict.

In Martian high orbit the frigates IMS Vor and IMS Talot towed a crippled cargo shuttle towards Ares station (still mostly neutral there yes?). Elsewhere the IMS Seraph led a convoy of undamaged merchant vessels towards the portion of low orbit controlled by Mangala.

The Voice's voice cut through the broadcast of what was going on in orbit. (information is still flowing freely, it is only travel that we have restricted)

"A pox on both your houses!"

ooc: Sorry Anti-Fun, but I guess that's what happens when you let anger and resentment build against your nation and do nothing to stop it. I didn't want it to end this way.

question: Doesn't snel control at least one space elavator? Orbital combat is notoriously bad for big targets like that. I only am wondering this because Mangala would be in the fall line of a Pavonis Mons based cable...

OOC While yes Snel has the Space Elevator I believe it is Bang in the center of Menelmacar Territory (Well In snel territory but surronded by Menelmacar) And in either case the opposite side of the Globe, so it's in no major danger of being hit.

OOC: The Snel control an unused anchor station on Pavonis and the only current elevator in the middle of Terra Sabaea.

OOC: The Snel control an unused anchor station on Pavonis and the only current elevator in the middle of Terra Sabaea.

I suppose the easiest answer is, lets not worry about that headache and work out a reason later on for it not being hit, or maybe simply not being hit enough.

If any damage is sustained to that Space Elevator Pilon will be most displeased. We value the work the Snel do in Terraforming both Mars and Venus, any major impairments to their work will be a great loss to our nation.

**At the Hellespontos Defence Wall**


CPT. Escobar looked to the right corner of the HUD in his "Striker" Power Armour
The New orders scolled downward, telling him to move his company through the defence wall to
the nearest fire Points. The Company Reached Sector-D of the Wall the 20ft "Striker" power armour
fanned out, CPT. Escobar along with the most of his company noticed the Massive Tor Yvresse
Titans lumbering towards the wall. CPT. Escobar Yelled "FIRE" almost immediatly his company were shooting
the 250mm "Striker" Cannons at the Titans.

*CPT. Escobar's company is from the 3rd Heavy support Regiment, all operating on the same orders(approx 500 Units)

the Rest of the Deployment of the Confederacy Of Norieganania Defence Force are as the following

the 1st-5th Infantry Battalion approx. 350,000 each
the 6th Heavy Infantry Battalion approx. 250,000 supported with Heavy and light APC's
the 7th Air Assault Battalion approx. 250,000
*the 7th uses "Deaths Head Mega Transpost/Gun Ships"*
*Majority of fighters are Power Armour Called SAMUS suits*
*also 350 elite JetCycle's are in this battalion
the 1st+2nd Armour Regiment of the 10th Armoured Battalion will be supporting Panzer division Marduk approx 170 each
the 1st-5th Heavy Support Infantry approx 250-500 each

OOC:

I am new at this, but i gotta help my county out! :p

OOC: This 'fighting retreat' of VC's - is it being done at sublight, or light speeds? If it was done at sublight, I've got anywhere from 10-30 minutes to pound on them before they even get close to the asteroid belt. If it was done at FTL, it can't be much of a fighting retreat. Unless you have a real-space method of FTL.

This might modify the current post, but I doubt it. The RRG has a single target to eliminate - if the retreat is done at FTL they will not attack until they get solid intelligence on what is ahead of them.

The drones are defense vessels - in effect extra armor. They sit there and take damage, or fire on incoming ships. Please note we don't do face to face combat like that (But don't assume we can't either...) so losses from the drones would be negligable. If this assessment is wrong, you should include a lot more detail in your posts when using them.

Please note that the asteroid belt - while being a belt - is not the cluttered space you imagine it to be. There are plenty of rocks floating there, but they are not the huge jumbles you imagine. Overall the asteroids in Sol system so far discovered have less mass total than the moon. Spread that out over large portions of the belt, and you will find you have very sparse 'cover'.

Yes - I am still going to ignore the cloaked attack. It was using tech we would be quite well aqquanted with, and Tannelorn of all people should know that. Said information would also be passed onto our allies as part of the MIDAS treaty, meaning they would know about it as well.

BTW: Kinslayer's people are not human, and are highly augemented to boot. Pilon's are human, but are also augemented. Republic pilots are not - they just have superior tech that makes it unneeded.

IC:
Instead of following the VC ships toward the belt, the Republic fleet aside from the Rapid Response Force turned and fired off one last volley from their rear tubes. Taking up positions around Mars they methodically went to work on the defense batteries, hammering at them from orbit. Pinpoint strikes from 30-40 ships at a time from oblique angles carved through rock to reach the batteries themselves. Now that the batteries had fired, their positions were known and they could be eliminated slowly and carefully.

A further 8 ships had been damaged or destroyed firing into the retreating ships, despite the general policy of rotating ships to the front and back of the fleet clouds to prevent too much damage on one single ship. Recovery cruisers hurried to grab those that were damaged - most were taken to warp and to Trium shipyards on the Ring for repairs.

Other ships were stirring around Saturn as well. TYCS fleets were coming to alert status, as well as a cluster of StarLancers. Used during the war on Sketch to great effect, many had been recovered and more had been built. They were smaller than the original models, but they used many of the same components. No target was awaiting them... Yet.

Sunset...I know the asteroid belt isn't cluttered but I do realise space is big. Tannelorns ships weren't directly behind the AF Fleet...they may have been placed elsewhere and simply jumped you.

The Vascilian League have discovered SLT drives, we are going faster than light man. Urenbech catapult drives? you're spies obviously haven't been paying attention to the regional board.

So...The Tannelorn ships zoom in out of no where and open fire on you, your ships didn't expect it and you were caught with your pants down.

((no no that was fine, well one note Eldar Titans do NOT Lumber they move with Greet speed and Gracefully, well behind the Swirl of colour of the Holofield anyway:P Just a small matter of much personal pride here.))

At Last a response even as the counter fire came in most of the Eldar Titans managed to avoid it, still a few where damaged not enough to prevent the Initial Leap, but those damaged where being slowed now which was effecting the Holofield.

Now however the rest of the Armoured push was made, and a surprise, from within the Grav Tanks came a wave of Swooping hawks a Single Regiment strong (2000) They would act now as the cover for the Push.

Grav Tanks hurtled towards the Defenders, along with Jet Bikes and the Elite shining Spears, a Two Hundred Strong group these where the Elite of the Jetbikes, aspect warriors in a Gaurdians craft. Now the Six Larger Titans did more than give supporting fire they too began to charge the Defence wall, this was the first push on the defended location the first tet of it's dstrength and the Eldar where not going to let it stand.

((Numbers Okay here goes, 500 Falcon Grav Tanks, 250 various other Grav Tanks, 1500 Jet Bikes 200 shining spears, and other assets being kept back, this is what is racing out to meet your defence force, on top of. Gah this was written earlier but could not post it, oh I'll add okay but remember VC side you now have my reserve fleet coming in behind yours, along with two of my starting fleets coming from the front.))

OCC....Sunset as you dont know Bevrage Concerns has had it's space fliet for some time now, But what the big suprise is that I have placed my space fleet in the astroid belt as a counter messure for any type of foul play that any one would try to star anything with Vacillia County. As does most of the Vascilian League, AF was in the middle of Defense and thats why he was out at the time, and Tannelorn, if you failed to notice has a fleet group OVER the Tor Yvresse Side of new roan, which was happily laying waste to their military bases in the country.

OOC: This 'fighting retreat' of VC's - is it being done at sublight, or light speeds? If it was done at sublight, I've got anywhere from 10-30 minutes to pound on them before they even get close to the asteroid belt. If it was done at FTL, it can't be much of a fighting retreat. Unless you have a real-space method of FTL.

This might modify the current post, but I doubt it. The RRG has a single target to eliminate - if the retreat is done at FTL they will not attack until they get solid intelligence on what is ahead of them.

The drones are defense vessels - in effect extra armor. They sit there and take damage, or fire on incoming ships. Please note we don't do face to face combat like that (But don't assume we can't either...) so losses from the drones would be negligable. If this assessment is wrong, you should include a lot more detail in your posts when using them.

Please note that the asteroid belt - while being a belt - is not the cluttered space you imagine it to be. There are plenty of rocks floating there, but they are not the huge jumbles you imagine. Overall the asteroids in Sol system so far discovered have less mass total than the moon. Spread that out over large portions of the belt, and you will find you have very sparse 'cover'.

Yes - I am still going to ignore the cloaked attack. It was using tech we would be quite well aqquanted with, and Tannelorn of all people should know that. Said information would also be passed onto our allies as part of the MIDAS treaty, meaning they would know about it as well.

BTW: Kinslayer's people are not human, and are highly augemented to boot. Pilon's are human, but are also augemented. Republic pilots are not - they just have superior tech that makes it unneeded.

IC:
Instead of following the VC ships toward the belt, the Republic fleet aside from the Rapid Response Force turned and fired off one last volley from their rear tubes. Taking up positions around Mars they methodically went to work on the defense batteries, hammering at them from orbit. Pinpoint strikes from 30-40 ships at a time from oblique angles carved through rock to reach the batteries themselves. Now that the batteries had fired, their positions were known and they could be eliminated slowly and carefully.

A further 8 ships had been damaged or destroyed firing into the retreating ships, despite the general policy of rotating ships to the front and back of the fleet clouds to prevent too much damage on one single ship. Recovery cruisers hurried to grab those that were damaged - most were taken to warp and to Trium shipyards on the Ring for repairs.

Other ships were stirring around Saturn as well. TYCS fleets were coming to alert status, as well as a cluster of StarLancers. Used during the war on Sketch to great effect, many had been recovered and more had been built. They were smaller than the original models, but they used many of the same components. No target was awaiting them... Yet.

Sunset...I know the asteroid belt isn't cluttered but I do realise space is big. Tannelorns ships weren't directly behind the AF Fleet...they may have been placed elsewhere and simply jumped you.

The Vascilian League have discovered SLT drives, we are going faster than light man. Urenbech catapult drives? you're spies obviously haven't been paying attention to the regional board.

So...The Tannelorn ships zoom in out of no where and open fire on you, your ships didn't expect it and you were caught with your pants down.

And the Tannelorn Fleet is ambushed and caught with their pants down by our fleet, which no one from VC has yet acknowledged even though I posted right after Tannelorn did.

The orbiatal fleet had located the defending ground troops, it would soon to time to show their hand.
The Pilonese Ground Guard had been assembled and waited orders from the wise counsel in order to engage the enemy. The had not left the safety of their Arcologies but they were ready for deployment.

OCC....Sunset as you dont know Bevrage Concerns has had it's space fliet for some time now, But what the big suprise is that I have placed my space fleet in the astroid belt as a counter messure for any type of foul play that any one would try to star anything with Vacillia County. As does most of the Vascilian League, AF was in the middle of Defense and thats why he was out at the time, and Tannelorn, if you failed to notice has a fleet group OVER the Tor Yvresse Side of new roan, which was happily laying waste to their military bases in the country.

OOC And for likely longer than you have existed I have had a Military starbase IN That ASTEROID belt, seeking for any hostile presence within the Asteroid Belt, Actively seeking yet you never mentioned this fleets existence anywhere to find out if anyone could spot it. This is bad form because with such a permanment pressence I would be able to spot it, and I mentioned the facilty's existence in this Thread very early on.

Basically I would Like RIGHT this instant any and all assets of VC in the Martian Asteroid belt or anywhere else for that matter to OOC declere themselves so we can sort this mess out. I'll add that I have one more fleet in transit OOC.

Where is this group over my side of it, oh it dosn't matter there are no military bases in New Roan... We are on the offensive using web gates to jump from place to place.

gah iffy server for me today I think

OCC....Sunset as you dont know Bevrage Concerns has had it's space fliet for some time now, But what the big suprise is that I have placed my space fleet in the astroid belt as a counter messure for any type of foul play that any one would try to star anything with Vacillia County. As does most of the Vascilian League, AF was in the middle of Defense and thats why he was out at the time, and Tannelorn, if you failed to notice has a fleet group OVER the Tor Yvresse Side of new roan, which was happily laying waste to their military bases in the country.

Why didn't Tannelorn POST that he had a fleet bombing TY's bases then?

ooc ok, in Astronomy class i saw a map of the Solar system that Places the Asteroid field at 5 million km at its closest and about 8 million at its farthest, and those werent gun batteries, but mobile ships the size of Enterprise [about 1 km]. Ok short story to explain, we wanted three ships, one carrier, one fleet support [ie ship killer gun] and one command battleship....too expensive to build three classes and just built one, in the spirit of the Veritech's, capable of transforming in to Battloid or Giant robot for high mobility [their is science behind it] ok at 32 000 kms[kilometers a second] that is 5-8 minutes to mars. We do have SLT [FTL] and its on Eternal the new flagship and Starship class Vehicle [might as well be Scimitar, same amount of guns, more missiles and TWO Loengren [an even bigger ingelstung] as well as STC [space time compression or space fold] So ok then if my Katana's never reached, we did snipe at your ships, thats fine and cool, i dont mind, but Pilon has ships too near to TannelornsPLANTS [space colonies in Asteroid field], and they have expressed willingess to attack Civilian Targets with WMD. So my fleet is being fast redeployed [remember only one half of the navy itself was involved in the delaying tactic.]

IC
" Continue Laying Fire into the Enemy ships, reposition after every shot"
Capataine Bajiruru brooded, the pilon vessels were already inside the Asteroid fields, neccesitating a reposition of the fleet, no longer will they be able to support the retreat with their entire reserve [15 ikazucki].
Early warning klaxons blazed in the command deck of the Sword of Purity, one of the Alpha fighter screens had detected Pilon vessels, still several million km's away. " Order 2000 alpha's and 1000 Beta's to deal with this threat, support with 3rd Katana detachment [15 katana's]. A massive wave of supoprt craft and frigates zoomed off to intercept, find and pin their foes.......

ooc ok Pilon i have expressed that we wish to engage, you said you are in asteroids after all, and Bevrage Concerns is about to "jump" or engage you as you look for me, they are waiting in ambush mode as it were.
and i am going to start up a new thread for this, about ground war, as we are pulverising the Tor Yvresse side of new Roan, launching a counter attack and about to invade kinslayer!!!!!!!!

OOC: As a show of good faith I will do the same as TY requested of VC,
We havea total of 10 Fleets deployed. In addition we have 2 Divisions of Ground troops on Mars and another Division of Heavy Armored Mechanized Vehicles.

ooc ok, in Astronomy class i saw a map of the Solar system that Places the Asteroid field at 5 million km at its closest and about 8 million at its farthest, and those werent gun batteries, but mobile ships the size of Enterprise [about 1 km]. Ok short story to explain, we wanted three ships, one carrier, one fleet support [ie ship killer gun] and one command battleship....too expensive to build three classes and just built one, in the spirit of the Veritech's, capable of transforming in to Battloid or Giant robot for high mobility [their is science behind it] ok at 32 000 kms[kilometers a second] that is 5-8 minutes to mars. We do have SLT [FTL] and its on Eternal the new flagship and Starship class Vehicle [might as well be Scimitar, same amount of guns, more missiles and TWO Loengren [an even bigger ingelstung] as well as STC [space time compression or space fold] So ok then if my Katana's never reached, we did snipe at your ships, thats fine and cool, i dont mind, but Pilon has ships too near to TannelornsPLANTS [space colonies in Asteroid field], and they have expressed willingess to attack Civilian Targets with WMD. So my fleet is being fast redeployed [remember only one half of the navy itself was involved in the delaying tactic.]

IC
" Continue Laying Fire into the Enemy ships, reposition after every shot"
Capataine Bajiruru brooded, the pilon vessels were already inside the Asteroid fields, neccesitating a reposition of the fleet, no longer will they be able to support the retreat with their entire reserve [15 ikazucki].
Early warning klaxons blazed in the command deck of the Sword of Purity, one of the Alpha fighter screens had detected Pilon vessels, still several million km's away. " Order 2000 alpha's and 1000 Beta's to deal with this threat, support with 3rd Katana detachment [15 katana's]. A massive wave of supoprt craft and frigates zoomed off to intercept, find and pin their foes.......

ooc ok Pilon i have expressed that we wish to engage, you said you are in asteroids after all, and Bevrage Concerns is about to "jump" or engage you as you look for me, they are waiting in ambush mode as it were.
and i am going to start up a new thread for this, about ground war, as we are pulverising the Tor Yvresse side of new Roan, launching a counter attack and about to invade kinslayer!!!!!!!!

We are not in real space when we approached, we've had these fleets in hyperspace since before war was declared. We simply jumped them out of hyperspace when the Tannelorn ships moved out to attack Sunset, your early warning systems would not have detected any incoming ships, Hyperspace is an alternate Dimension in which two points are closer together than they are in real space allowing for FTL travel.

ooc ok Pilon i have expressed that we wish to engage, you said you are in asteroids after all, and Bevrage Concerns is about to "jump" or engage you as you look for me, they are waiting in ambush mode as it were.
and i am going to start up a new thread for this, about ground war, as we are pulverising the Tor Yvresse side of new Roan, launching a counter attack and about to invade kinslayer!!!!!!!!

Erm pardon are you reading anything I post the only attacks are mine, on your wall, I have no Military bases only webgates, and they are scattered all over the territory, and are extremly difficult to detect until I open them... Hence why they remain hidden for so long. Wheres this Counter attack? wheres this pulverisation I think I have lost a single Titan from 30 and by my estimates have likely smashed vast swathes of your wall!!

The Emperor Class warship, The Holy One along with several cruisers came to a halt over Mars. Inside, thousands of green clad guardsmen were being loaded onto dropships along with hundreds of tanks.

The Cruisers to take positions around "The Holy One" with their weapons at ready...

Eldar Flagship

Farseer Mel'Nais Smiled grimly at last they where here....

Sister The Imperium has arrived it is time now, time for the final assult... We are waiting for you.

As the Psychic message went out the Immaterium opened and the Outcast Fleet emerged ready for the attack, the last asset of Tor Yvresse, the unplayed card, forming up to assult the Imperiums fleet even as the Humans readied to land...

The fighters began to litually pore out of the fleet, Hundreds of Fighters from capital ships and a Space station, and from Cargo holds other shapes could be seen, definatly not fighters they appeared dragon like, only much much smaller, the Dragon Droids 100 strong they had a special role.

ooc Tor go to the new post ,. and its not literally a wall its a defense line...and the Garfish are an even if not more then a match for a titan....they are firing on the titans with Anti ship weapons and they are hard to find on sensors of any kind due to the shadow fields they use...plus the Veritechs are attacking as well and...well they are as nimble as Nightwings, and they have GE human and ELDAR crews in mine, dont forget that Noriegania and Bevrage concerns forces and Air forces [noriegania has massive land ships top] go to the new post ok!!!!

The Huge form of the "Nimloth", a Void Stalker Class Flagship, approaches the "Holy One" and unleashed a barrage of fire against the imperial ship, trying to bring down its shields. Six Hemlock Class destroyers fired their pulsar lances to the rear of the imperial behemont, hoping to disable its engines.

From the launch bays of the "Eclipse" several hundreds of ShadowDragon Combat Droids parted to make a raid in the weak spots of the dreadnought.

ooc hahaha the guard have arrived!!!!!!!! ok maybe now is the time for Eternal to make its appearance,or maybe not but just the same, they are being supported by the Tannelorn Battle group over Roania

IC
the Bridge of the Sacred Vessel
"Captain, New craft inbound, Natural, Eldar Vessels approaching, should we engage" the Captain looked around the bridge for a moment, the Lex mechanics still busily laying in firing angles on Tor Yvressan Ground targets. " Tell Captain Raimyu of the Sword of Tranquility to move her Battle group in to assist....attack the Large Eldar vessel and provide fighter cover with all Assets, We must give our allies time to land"

2 of the Massive ikazuckis, supported by 15 of the Katana missile Cruisers powered up their massive plasma drives and boosted in to the Attack, almost 1000 veritech fighters flying cover before them.......

The Cruisers took the full onslaught of the barrage, destroying 6 and crippling 2 more. "The Holy One" opened up with it's upgraded weapons a full barrage of 3 dozen thermal torpedos at the Tor Yvressans while the remaining 5 cruisers unleashed a fierce plasma barrage against the Aelosians.

Meanwhile, the enemy fighters manage to reduce the "Holy One" shield power to 72%, but the mighty ship responded responded with hundreds of anti-fighter turrets.

OOC:It's been awhile since I've played 40k, fogive me if my knowledge of it is limited right now.

((No worries Imperial Guard you have a rare fight ahead of you, these are not Tor Yvressian Vessels not a single one was designed by the Eldar....))

'Helios Wing Open fire, Yamota that Command vessel remaining vessels pound anything remaining into the ground.'

((OOCStats tommorow I have to go now to be honest.... Tired Uni in the morning...

And I have to look this up now, but as a Quick guide I have 5 Helios Destroyer's in the Outcast fleet and they are all targeting your VesselHoly One Sorry about this I have the Flu it's 1.15am I need sleep and have to walk home first TG me any questions etc, and I'll answer sorry all))
Gah RL

the first wave of the Katana Cruisers and Beta Bombers reached the Eldar ships, massive volleys of IMREC anti ship missiles, and high energy Xray Laser Turrets started to rapid fire in to the Distant Vessels, the Lex mechanics working over time to see through the enemy interference.

Bridge of the Sword of Purity
"Captain Raimyu orders please!!!" the Gunnery commander asked excitedly" Lex mechanics, firing angles on the large Eldar Vessel if you would please" " completed and done mistress" the firing angle seemed wrong even for lead but trusting in the enhanced mind and cybernetic implants of her Lex mechanic she gave the order to fire the Ingelstung at 100% percent power......a massive beam of energy raced towards its target [void stalker] followed up by dozens of bolts of light from the ships batteries......

The phasing shields of the huge Nimloth deflected most of the damage, but one hit tore apart one of the launch bays. In the bridge, one of the assistant approached the Admiral "Sire, damage reports, the hull has been breached, but the ship holds". The Admiral looks through the mirror and says "Open fire with the Dark Matter Cannons, I want that ship down, NOW!, and close the breached section. Fire torpedoes, more ordnances, whatever you want, but destroy that ship now!, you don't see that the Tannelorn vessels are closing for the kill?"

Several squadrons of escort ships intercepted the advance of the Tannelorn Fleets, trying to buy time for the Nimloth to destroy the "Holy One".

The Dark Matter Cannons of the "Nimloth" fired a barrage of anti-matter against the imperial ship's bridge, trying to bring it down...

Sunset...I know the asteroid belt isn't cluttered but I do realise space is big. Tannelorns ships weren't directly behind the AF Fleet...they may have been placed elsewhere and simply jumped you.

The Vascilian League have discovered SLT drives, we are going faster than light man. Urenbech catapult drives? you're spies obviously haven't been paying attention to the regional board.

So...The Tannelorn ships zoom in out of no where and open fire on you, your ships didn't expect it and you were caught with your pants down.

OOC: Yes, space is quite big. And we are quite advanced. We directly monitor most of the system through the Triumvirate of Yut intelligence networks, contributing and pulling data off of it. Fleet movements, especially of that scale, would be noticed by the AI's and broadcast to the member fleets. The only reason they 'jumped' us, was because they did not bother to mention the movement. If they had mentioned it, despite the Urenbech catapult, we would have known about it. The attack is still in no way a suprise attack.

I also want to make this perfectly clear - declaring whether or not something affects another player, even if they are an ally, is godmodding. If you do not agree with their assessment of the damage done, or whether they are able to spot your ships, you are free to argue the point. It is still absolutely up to them as to what happens to their forces.

IC Post will be coming, but the attack is still ignored.

"Glory be..." muttered the Imperator to himself. "Attack the enemy! Protect the Imperial Fleet! GLORY TO THE EMPEROR! WE WILL ROUTe THEM!" bellowed Kinezki, filled with a renewed vigour.

Morale went up signifigantly in the AF Fleet.

3 more ships were lightly damaged, thanks to heavy ECM disturbance, none were destroyed.

In his cockpit, the Wing Commander keys his comm. "Begin the Meld." He closes his eyes, and stretches his mind out to touch every other mind in his fighter force. Suddenly, they move as one, and without any warning, each ship launches a pair of missles at the oncoming fighter force.

*****

Admiral Greer smiles. "So they want to play. Launch another volley, then close to gun range. Have the Hosts initiate the final stage. Lets have some fun."

Thousands more missles sprout from the Battle Fleet, covering the distance between the two fleets in seconds. The 10 round spheres continue on inexorably, accelerating faster than the fighters and orienting on 10 of the leading Af capital ships.

The Holy Shield absorbed most the impacts, the rest were taken by the Holy One's turrets out before they even had the chance of hitting the ships, sheilds were doewn to 53%, while 3 more cruiser sacrificed themselves by intercepting the dark matter. The Mighty Shin turned it's attention toward the Aelosians, firing another barrage, but this time, one of the torps carried a live 10 megaton nuclear warhead....

Meanwhile 4 dozen dropships carrying thousands of troops and hundreds of tanks left the bays of the "Holy One" racing at full speed towards the Martian surface.

The Cruisers took the full onslaught of the barrage, destroying 6 and crippling 2 more. "The Holy One" opened up with it's upgraded weapons a full barrage of 3 dozen thermal torpedos at the Tor Yvressans while the remaining 5 cruisers unleashed a fierce plasma barrage against the Aelosians.

Meanwhile, the enemy fighters manage to reduce the "Holy One" shield power to 72%, but the mighty ship responded responded with hundreds of anti-fighter turrets.

Message to Imperial Guard:
"You are either ignorant or just plain foolish. By your actions, you have opposed Bajon. It was clearly stated that we would prevent any outside forces from helping Vascilia County. Already, your ships have been attacked. Now, you will face Bajon, and the most powerful fleet of Mars. Good day to you."
-Empress Nisha Redoran
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5 ships of the Bajoni Vanguard appear over the horizon of Mars. Ahead of them is a fierce battle between Tor Yvressen and Imperial Guard ships. The Sandrock, flagship of Bajon, transmits a message to the Tor Yvressen command ship.
"Bajon is here to support its position on the war. Transmit coordinates to attack. The main fleet will arrive in approximately 25 minutes."
The Bajoni ships move into attack formation.

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IBIS Sandrock

The Holy Shield absorbed most the impacts, the rest were taken by the Holy One's turrets out before they even had the chance of hitting the ships, sheilds were doewn to 53%, while 3 more cruiser sacrificed themselves by intercepting the dark matter. The Mighty Shin turned it's attention toward the Aelosians, firing another barrage, but this time, one of the torps carried a live 10 megaton nuclear warhead....

Meanwhile 4 dozen dropships carrying thousands of troops and hundreds of tanks left the bays of the "Holy One" racing at full speed towards the Martian surface.

The 4th Bajoni ship drops from formation, chasing the dropships downwards. As the large ship burns through the upper atmosphere, it targets its torpedoes and fires 2 at each of the dropships.

(Post casuelties. PS: Bajoni systems are very good.)

Bajon! you are an arrogant fool if you think you can fight the Imperium of Mankind!

Overlord Nohman saw the Bajonii ships open fire upon the Imperial Formation. "I see Bajon wishes to join the conflict? well I guess we should welcome them to the party...Open fire on the Bajon vessels!"

The Orbital defence batteries of Vascilia County, untouched by the many attempts to destroy them.

45 high energy cannons and 100+ light missile defence batteries opened fire on Bajon ships.

OOC:

Post Losses Bajon.

OOC: WTF? AF either you explain how the hell your orbital defences are invulnerable to attack or I am IGNORE cannoning you.

Over half of the dropships had landed just over 2 km from New Roan. The rest along with 11,000 guardsmen and 10 marines were vaporized in the atmosphere in the atmosphere by the Bajoni topedoes. The remaining rushed frantically to New Roan seeking cover.

Meanwhile 2 more Emperor Class warships carrying tens of thousands escorted by dozens of Missile Destroyers arrived on scene.

OOC: Finally some time to post. Oh yes - clean up your grammar and spelling. It helps avoid confusion if we can read what you are writing.

Just a note - I did look at the rankings, and I must point something out. Tannelorn and AF were both in the 50,000+ range on smart citizens. Sunset was at 1500. We were also at 44 in IT. If you are gonna play the stats game, play it consistantly.

IC:
Heading to the Belt

The RRG under Admiral Burgess raced to pop out ahead of the retreating VC fleet, but they were already at FTL while the RRG had to move to enter warp safely. The intelligence from the explorers came back - large extra gravity masses in the belt. Which meant ships. It likely was a trap, as Filbeck had suspected.

"Peel off - 1-15 left, 1-15 right. Go out 1mk and circle around." The ships followed the new orders, turning away as warp fields adjusted their course as directed by the helm. "We will hit them from either side, their attention will be divided..."

Then one of the escorts exploded as a beam of energy shot through it. "What in the hell was that?" Burgess shouted. "Energy weapon - looks like it came from one of the larger gravity masses. More were fired - more info from Fleet... 15 total. Looks like they have some heavy ships there." "Damn - continue the manuver, but keep everything erratic. I don't want to lose more ships. Admiral Filbeck?"

The channel opened in responce to the query. "Yes Admiral?" "I have a target for the StarLancers. Say 1/2 of them." "Done - you are authorized to issue orders to 1-32. Good luck Admiral."

As the RRG circled around the 32 StarLancers near Titan poured on the power. They were heading for the largest non-asteroid gravity wells. Not that it would matter if one happened to be an asteroid. They would punch right thought it.

Around Mars
The 450-odd Cruisers that remained around Mars continued to pound the ground defenses, at least until the IG ships appeared. New orders came in - none were to land. Targets switched over as tactical offers specified the new threat, and deadly lances of energy leapt toward the IG ships, both those in orbit and the craft decending. Their long angle on the planet would avoid any fire hitting the planet directly - a good thing as the TY forces were essentially right below the decending craft.

But the Republic ships were not confined to a single target. Other opposing fleets were out there. They turned to face these other threats, sending waves and streams of torpedos speeding across the gap. These were ship killers - while not nuclear they were about 1/2 kiloton in yield. Most ships fired between 80 and 120 of these every 10 seconds. Toward a single target.

Admiral Filbeck looked over her forces. The Republic did not have a ground army as such, and 98% of it's money went into the fleet and their technologies. Thus the Fleet was the best on Mars - no if's, and's, or but's. Other nations divided their money between the ground and space, thus their ships were ultimately inferior. And her ships were performing as they had been designed.

Where to put the remaining StarLancers though... The orbital defenses would work, they could always return after they had been destroyed. She issued the orders, and the 32 remaining went to warp.

Summary - The RRG will be joining the battle in the belt next post. The ships remaining around Mars are engaging anything within range - 300,000 and within line of sight at this point. Their range is better, but I would assume most ships are in orbit, and the horizon might prevent this range. The ships on Mars are in two groups - one in the zone between ADK and VC, and the other above Burnitonia. The are sufficiently out to have LOS and thus range to each other. They are targetting the VC orbital defenses. The starlancers will be joining battle next post as well.

Oy. We warn them not to go to war in space, and whadda they do? Ships firing weapons at each other in orbit! Pft, time to teach them all a little lessson.

Little CARMs in the Martian rings began nudging large bits of ice and rock into degrading orbits that would take them through the battle zone.

still waiting for the AF to post their forces and locations as I did.

OOC: WTF? AF either you explain how the hell your orbital defences are invulnerable to attack or I am IGNORE cannoning you.

Heres my Explanation...Planets are big, Mountains are thick. When you place heavy duty cannons in the sides of mountains and inside of Canyons they are difficult to detect and while you are trying to find them they are shooting you, no one has posted losses from them, so I have not posted any more losses.

Simple as that, you've been doing damage to them. But they are incredibly difficult to destroy.

Orbital defences like Sattelites are incredibly easy to destroy because they are just sitting their.

Ground defences are large ground bases, capable of throwing up huge amounts of ECM to prevent them from being targetted easily...Not to mention Pilon, Your country is broke...Imploded economy, I doubt your ships crews are well trained enough to deal with them appropriately...or the ships equipped well enough to deal with them.

Ive lost 5 of them over the course of the start of the war...thats alot

The AF Fleet continued to engage the approaching enemy forces 274 AF Ships remained. Slamming AF and Pilonese Vessels alike with their massive cannons and swarms of Torpedo's

...Meanwhile the battle below still raged, a battle that MIDAS couldn't ever hope to win.

OOC: Actually - they are much easier to destroy. They are fixed - optical targetting will avoid the ECM clutter (Which should be affecting your own targetting). Guess what - we use optical targetting among others.

IC:
Despite their efforts to avoid the firing arcs of the VC ground batteries, some ships still strayed. It was a testimate to their hulls, many reinforced with the best armor in the system, that some were not destroyed instantly. When possible ships that were disabled were snatched out of the firing zone with tractors, but others were destroyed. Another 7 cruisers fell - some evacuated in time while others were lost with all hands.

OOC: WTF? AF either you explain how the hell your orbital defences are invulnerable to attack or I am IGNORE cannoning you.

Heres my Explanation...Planets are big, Mountains are thick. When you place heavy duty cannons in the sides of mountains and inside of Canyons they are difficult to detect and while you are trying to find them they are shooting you, no one has posted losses from them, so I have not posted any more losses.

Simple as that, you've been doing damage to them. But they are incredibly difficult to destroy.

Orbital defences like Sattelites are incredibly easy to destroy because they are just sitting their.

Ground defences are large ground bases, capable of throwing up huge amounts of ECM to prevent them from being targetted easily...Not to mention Pilon, Your country is broke...Imploded economy, I doubt your ships crews are well trained enough to deal with them appropriately...or the ships equipped well enough to deal with them.

Ive lost 5 of them over the course of the start of the war...thats alot

You said they were Orbital, that means that they are IN ORBIT. I posted losses from the cannons, they destroyed one of my Heavy Battlecrusiers and damaged 2 others. As far as the Imploded Economy goes, we still make enough according to the GNP calculator everyone uses to properly equip our forces, we are a socialist nation, of course our economy is imploded. If you would also note we are in the top hundreds for both IT and Intelligence, trust me our people know what they are shooting at, but never once did you mention that what we were shooting at was on the ground, I ask that you please start spending more care describing things because everyone of us is being mislead by your vagueness.

OOC:One last post...

IC:
Onboard the "Holy One"
Commodore Kayes:Open a channel to the Tor Yvressans!

Crewman:eh Sir?

Commodore Kayes: Just do it!

Crewman:Aye Sir! Ready to transmit in 3...2...1

"Eldar! Cease your fire against us! Hear our proposal! We challenge you to combat us on the holy Martian soil! It will be a most glorious battle! Unless you are too cowardly to fight us face to face!

As the AF forces and Pilonese forces continued the fight 2 more Corvettes were damaged and 7 fighters destroyed.

ooc you have to be directly over them to just nail them, and as AF has one of the worlds top Info Techs, i would say that the ECM works [he never said what it was because I am the Tech wank that knows how it works, he doesnt care for that detail, he cares about the RP] Any time Your ship attempts to fire directly on them, they are hit by a MASSIVE high energy beam, admittedly their angles arent that great either...but they continue firing till they are destroyed. second we have geographical Locations to hide them, making them harder to hit [not target] This is the Scientific explanation. You can attempt to burrow in to them from the side, but they will still fire at you, and it will take a long time to blast through them. essentially we have cover, you dont. Same Reason the Sunset Planetary defenses were so effective against the AF fleet. and they are taking losses its just not going to be an easy task taking them all out


IC
"Captain Bajiruru Orders incoming, its the Eternal Ma'am" The captain Examined the Holo slate for a few moments, looking directly beneath her to see the crippled Hawk Of Endymion listing to port , on her other side the Sword of justice Pin point Barrier system was bypassed by a few missiles, which gouged a hole in the side. The Sword of Justice Activated its Ingelstung cannon, Going well beyond safety Ranges, and fired directly at the Incoming sunset forces, purposefully targetting the ship that had fired on it [one of the big ones] The power coils and EM field stabilizers buckled under the strain. The entire front end of the Vessel seemed to explode in a shimmering patina of Energy as a massive high energy beam streaked directly towards the enemy ship.

" Captain the Orders, " the comms officer asked again.
"All functional ships cover for the damaged vessels, we are repositioning once again, we shall meet up with the main fleet, Maneuver vector, Glittering Rose Blossom." ......


The Sword of Tranquility fired its main cannon at 100%, as did 5 more of the Tannelorn Vessels before the first wave started to reposition themselves.....

ooc Signalling a reposition of fleet assets and returning fire, using the cover afforded by their proximity to asteroids, First fleet engagement is pretty much over, time for Losses report and to lick our wounds.
12 katana's destroyed, 20 damaged, 1 ikazucki destroyed [sword of justice], 3 damaged 2 crippled [very big ships]. and their is another fleet battle against imperial navy, but Tor Yvresse isnt their so we wait. ok essentially we have provided some more cover for the AF fleet, oh and The tannelorn Ships are hideously accurate at this extreme range [the Ingelstung i mean] I combine Info Tech with GE to make human Battle comps that arent as easy to fool as a comp. The ikazucki's as i stated earlier are big, mean and deadly, as well as at extreme range, where the Ingelstung was designed to fire at [16 MASER turrets are the close range armamant as well as 8 missile bays capable of launching 8 missiles every 3 seconds each]

OOC: Actually - they are much easier to destroy. They are fixed - optical targetting will avoid the ECM clutter (Which should be affecting your own targetting). Guess what - we use optical targetting among others.

IC:
Despite their efforts to avoid the firing arcs of the VC ground batteries, some ships still strayed. It was a testimate to their hulls, many reinforced with the best armor in the system, that some were not destroyed instantly. When possible ships that were disabled were snatched out of the firing zone with tractors, but others were destroyed. Another 7 cruisers fell - some evacuated in time while others were lost with all hands.

Optical targetting...Yes, Ground defences are fixed but you know what. Space Forces have to get a viable angle on the Ground defences. Meaning? You are much easier to attack while you are angling up Sunset.

In Space...There is no cover, But when you put your orbital defences into mountains the have viable geographical cover. That means I have trouble targetting your ships until they are right over top of my guns and thats when they get to fire.

Vascilian Force fields are not a viable option for space craft, but they are for ground emplacements. Meaning? My orbital defence cannons are not only covered by terrain but large powerful force fields.


And Pilon, My Fleet has 274 ships left...they are still shooting at the MIDAS Fleet, so you guys should post some more losses before I start getting to mine. Their location? Counter pushing into the weakest portion of your combined fleets to try and help the Imperial Guard ships.

OOC: Congraduations - you again shot at ships that were not there. They will arrive on the next IC post. At FTL it takes a while for them to circle around.

And your bit about dug in was confusing. If they have a limited firing arc, and we come in from the side they cannot fire at us. Unless they swivel inside their 'tube'. Still they would have to burrow their own firing path out in most cases. If they attempted to use our they should have already been destroyed.

"admittedly their angles arent that great either" directly conflicts with

"You can attempt to burrow in to them from the side, but they will still fire at you"

as far as the weapons go. And stop mentioning your IT rank. Mine was higher, and my people are a lot smarter. The ECM is near-worthless against my targetting systems.

And yes - we will burrow in from the side. I can punch through the ground under the force fields, or just pour enough energy into them to knock them out. Nothing is invulnerable.

OOC:

Heres the thing...you can attempt to burrow through the side of the mountain. But since you are zipping around in orbit you wont be able to shoot for long.

I successfully shot at ships who were not there? I still shot at Pilon ship duder.

ooc: tannelorn who are you firing at?

OOC: Hmm, ground batteries, should be a little easier to evade then.

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As the Bajoni ship that went after the dropships returned to the formation, a warning signal emitted from the Sandrock. The ships broke off, 2 taking minor damage, the other 3 moving safely away, with only a small hit or two. The ships pulled back out from orbit, getting out of the range of the VC defenses. A transmission was sent to Olympus City. Moments later, the massive ships dove into the atmosphere. They flew in low and fast, using the radiation of the atmosphere to disable the VC targetting computers. A moment later, 3 ships dropped their payloads over a large VC city. The other 2 ships began targetting the VC batteries, beginning to destroy them one by one.

Message to Vascilia County:
"You are nothing, and soon you shall be less..."
-Empress Nisha Redoran

-Mobilization-
A 1 Mil. force of MI's will be called up for the vanguard assault. A main force of 2.5 Mil will be formed in Bajon. 3,000 Mechs will accompany the vanguard force, while 8,000 more will acompany the 2nd force, later. A reserve force of 6.5 Mil will also be called up.

The Bajoni Fleet enroute from earth has increased speed, and will arrive outside Mars orbit within a week. This will add 25 more battleships to the fleet.

OOC:
Bajon has 1 class of capital warship. They are 4,000 man battleships. I have 55 of these currently. They each carry 150 drone fighters (75 out at a time). They are divided into 1st and 2nd Armadas of 25 each, and a vanguard of 5.

OOC: did i miss a posting of losses here, or am i just behind on posting my losses?

OOC: Or they could get out at 300,000km, and target them while stationary. Still - there is no need to take losses from them. They are fixed, with limited firing arcs (straight up apparently) thus they are worthless. Republic ground batteries are on the ground, in plain sight, as to give them a really good firing arc. They are heavily shielded as well.

Just to make sure I'm not mistaken - did you just say your ships have no shields? Or do they have non-VC shields? Cause sand would wear them away to nothing at FTL otherwise.

OOC:

A large VC City? You're attacking Vascilia City then? if you're attacking my city then you'll need way more than 2.5 million friend. Im sorry Comrade but your intervention in the war does nothing more than Irritate us all...VC Targetting computers are incredible. Your ships were spotted and shot at.

IC:

Vascilian Anti-Aircraft Laser Defences opened fire on the Bajoni aircraft, inflicting incredible damage on them, 20 km before the Vascilian Defence Wall.

OOC: AF, u've been firing at me right?

The Theocratic Air Defence Corps Launched a counter raid on the Approaching Bajoni Forces.

800 High Maneuverable Aircraft lanced out into the Theatre of Operations, Their Mission? To destroy as many supply ships and troop transports as possible before they arrive near the defence wall.

The Imperator looked at his command console, the SIT drives were fully powered. "Activate Super Illuminous travel, move the fleet to these coordinates." Kinezki's crewman looked at him to see if he was joking...he wasn't. The second officer asked "Are you sure you want to try this? these systems are highly unreliable, sir." "They are our last ace in the hole Joston...Activate them"

Suddenly the AF Fleet was enveloped by an almost beautiful light and in the blink of an eye disappeared. 5 ships were lost in the transit...AF SIT systems were previously unproven and most Commanders would have dared to use them even in such a desperate situation.

The Fleets sensors went wild, scrambling to reconfigure the navigational systems. It took a few moments but the fleet was now 1.5 Million Km away from the battle. "The enemy are confused...Strike them now!" it took a few awhile for the crew to stop feeling so woozy, The Imperator felt it himself. They were now above the Kinslayers forces...Striking with impunity.


OOC:

Yeah...We mentioned a few times on our regional board that we had invented FTL, we call it Super Illuminous Travel. Dimensional Travel. AF systems were the first and as a result the most unreliable...Tannelorn and Noriegania have way better systems.

We have 269 ships now.

OOC: So... the question remains. Shields or no? Heavy armor will protect you to some extent...

5 Solar Destroyers are destroyed outright, and another battle group's shields are taken down. All the battle groups are groups of fives, flying in close enough formation that their shields overlap. Currently fighting strength: 205 Solar Destroyers and 1 Combat Worldship.

******

The AF ships dissapeared from their screens, then reapeared "above" the Kinslayer formations. In that moment of confusion, the uppermost battle group was devestated. The Admiral sat foreward in his chair, suddenly interested. "All groups, orient on the new position, fire at will."

A veritable wall of energy heads toword the AF fleet. Waves and waves follow it. Then the fighters come in, making strafing runs on the capital ships. The round spheres run on collision courses, slamming into capital ships and exploding, showering all the surrounding ships with armor-eating, power-core hungry space amoebas.

OOC: This is a variation on a space enocounter I had. I altered it so that it eats through armor and goes straight for a ship's power core.

OOC: They still grow on EM emissions? Cause that would be cool.

OOC: Yup, bloody hard to control, but it goes for the nearest and strongest source and sucks it dry.

ooc Ok Tannelorn developed the Pin point Barrier, Essentially 5 shields on a Track ball suspension, each one 80 metres [200 ft long] capable of stopping attacks, a few shots wont get through, but the massed missile volleys as i mentioned earlier, are capable of it as well as massed fire, also crews can miss quite easily [ie get hit] and they were designed primarily to take hits from the big guns, and ignore small hits, as thats what the ridiculous amount of Fighters are for!!!! AF i believe uses magnetic fields, and the Shields that are on the ground are the original Version of whats mounted on eternal, Magnetic Field, Air pressure, Diffuses beams [less effective, not stopped, like old star trek Screens i guess] and Explodes ordnance against them, to answer your question...oh and only the big ships get Pin point defenses, the katana's dont have them.And We use SPace fold, or Space Time Compression...we dont move at all....we make space move....its one of the RL SLT [FTL] Drives Stephen hawkings theorised [the other is dimensional Travel]

and i am firing at Sunset as they were directly ahead, The pilon fleet is simply being Engaged lightly in hit and runs in the asteroid fieldthat should be devastating [i am taking losses as well, just need to know] after all i sent several small ships and a fighter flotilla to intercept and keep them off our backs. Currently as i said my ships are pulling out, no need to engage in a massive fleet battle on unfavourable terms [coordinators/Tannelorn people hate loss of life, they think it is wasteful as it were] So Sunset, There should be some relatively bad losses from the Ingelstung Attacks as i took some pretty bad damage from the missile attacks [missiles can engage at very long range after all] as well as my own counter missile attacks. Tannelorn Attacked from the Cover of Asteroids and the like....it may even disuade you from pursuing as you cant get a totally accurate count on enemy vessels and their appropriate power....and Tannelorns Navy recieves about as much funding as yours does, with a top two% Arms industry. So i already posted my losses from that part, the fleet is pulling back and this phase of the fight is over.....but We still have the fight over mars, which we will continue tommorow...i would estimate you took more losses then me, as i never really got in to your engagement range.....but also I never got to really use the fighter craft, which are the heart of the fleet and what we use to win so your best judgement i suppose, but I did have half my fleet resources firing on you from extreme range [which is the best range for the ingelstung] and i am not exactly aware how much of your fleet resources is in this battle group.
ok i am off for now though till tommorow, but i cant really post Too much tommorow, school and all

IC
Current Known Disposition of Tannelorns Fleet .
Raimyu's Fleet Detachment [support for ground assault reinforcements, currently engaging Tor Yvresse to help IG forces] 2 ikazucki's 15 Katana's
Delaying force-Sunset 13 fully operation Ikazuki's [estimated at between 15 and 30] 70 fully operational Katana's,. 20 Damaged Disengaging..Current Action is disengaging, simply placing Delaying shots at Sunset to prevent them from reaching quickly
Pilon Delaying Force 1845/2000 alpha Veritech fighters, 734/1000 Beta veritech Bombers 12/15 Katana's [so some relatively bad losses but the damage they have been doing should be VERY good ;) its the core of the fleet!!!! and they are fighting Guerilla style]
ooc oh and Kinslayer, you should have also just taken some Serious losses as the AF fleet opened up at close range with good angles...not only that they are better pound for pound then your ships, either in training or in Quality as AF has a lot more Mil. funding I mean An Ikazucki is probably as badass as one of Bajon's ships as they cost about the same [his fleet at last count was 50 of those ships, i only have 30 well 27 operational Ikazuckis at this point].

The order was given, these cannons were just costing the MIDAS forces too many lives, it was a small sacrifice to pay for the destruction of a cannon. The wise counsel selected a group of 4 fighters for each cannon. The front three would provide cover and weaken the defences and the last would pay the ultimate sacrifice for the good of Pilon, overloading the Null-field protecting the Singularity from the universe and turning the fighter into a large bomb, the Kamikaze pilots knew their memories would live on in the nodelink.

As the fighters flew in toward their targets the fleet began to break away from the AF ships, 3 more Corvettes and a Destroyer were destroyed as they pulls out and regrouped. As they pulled away the Corvettes and Destroyers launched Gravitic mines at the enemy as the Heavier vessels launched Phased Quantum Torpedoes at them. They concentrated solely on the battleships, launching all of their Torpedoes and Mines at the Battleships.

The Fighters also pulled back, 14 more were destroyed before they could regroup, circling like wasps around the Pilonese fleet. They were preparing for something Big...

Over half of the dropships had landed just over 2 km from New Roan. The rest along with 11,000 guardsmen and 10 marines were vaporized in the atmosphere in the atmosphere by the Bajoni topedoes. The remaining rushed frantically to New Roan seeking cover.

OOC: I object. I told you twice (okay, only explicitly once, but I figure it was clear the first time, too) that an outside force would be met by a Ravenspire fleet. That fleet is not nonexistent just because I happen to be offline for a few hours.

That said, I'm going to roll with it. Be more careful in the future, though; it's bad form to do things like that.

IC:

They had been waiting in the 'shadow' of Deimos, protected by the satellite's mass from detection from planetside; what electromagnetic-spectrum emissions the ships produced would be indistinguishable against the massive output of the Kuraboshi megacolony, home to hundreds of millions of people.

They had been watching, very carefully, for the ships the Imperial Guard had promised. They had known the paths those ships would take almost from the moment they had received the announcement; Ravenspire's grasp of time, space, and other dimensions was rivalled by very few, and certainly not these interlopers from another reality. FTL countermeasures were not a new development for Ravenspire; there had been working prototypes even at the time of Sketch's infamous assault on the Angelan WorldRing, and that incident had raised them to highest-priority. Most capital ships now had the capacity to track FTL travel by a variety of methods, and some even boasted the technology to 'lock' such methods. They knew to an extremely high degree of certainty when and where the Guard would appear, and the Guard had not disappointed.

They had been planning to pounce, having twice offered fair warning. But then a new command had come through, from Alaric Morgannan himself; the head of the diplomatic corps was a former Spacy man, and noted as a tactician. So when he had said, "Wait," they had listened.

Sure enough, other forces had converged upon the intrusion. Bajon had thrown their own forces into the fray, and someone else appeared to be playing with meteorites... but no matter. They had watched, and they had seen the chance Morgannan had foreseen.

The Third Fleet of the Ravenspire Spacy folded out behind the Anti-Funitism forces: twenty of the sleek, teardrop-shaped quicksilver craft of apparently-seamless design; ten of the larger, lozenge-like starships, similarly seamless; and dozens of the silver crescent-shaped fighters, already deployed, and 'hitchhiking' the space-fold generated by the larger craft.

Immediately, five of the largest craft initiated spacelocking, 'reinforcing' the local spacetime in order to make dimensional shifts, spatial folds, temporal compression, and many methods of FTL difficult and power-consuming for very large ships, and nigh-impossible for anything smaller. The teardrop-shaped cruisers fired upon the Anti-Funitist fleet, ignoring for the moment smaller fighters in favor of larger craft, which could be located by their gravitic signatures. Microwave lasers were the most numerous weapons, thanks to their electronics-disabling effects, but particle beams and mass drivers were also well-represented.

"Sic itur ad astra," whispered Admiral Kenning, 'observing' via sensor readouts.

OOC: Now that I think about it, my losses were a little low. I changed that. But something you should know. My nation lives in ships in orbit above Mars. We have no army, nothing except a space force to spend our money on. So while his military budget might be 4 or 5 times what mine is, I have all of mine poured into spaceships, and an expertise not to be found in any planet-dwelling nation. We are far more advanced in the areas of space than our age or economy would indicate. Not quite up to Sunset's standards, but we have our strengths too. Like the amoeba!!! :twisted:

OOC: Or they could get out at 300,000km, and target them while stationary. Still - there is no need to take losses from them. They are fixed, with limited firing arcs (straight up apparently) thus they are worthless. Republic ground batteries are on the ground, in plain sight, as to give them a really good firing arc. They are heavily shielded as well.

Just to make sure I'm not mistaken - did you just say your ships have no shields? Or do they have non-VC shields? Cause sand would wear them away to nothing at FTL otherwise.

Staying stationary over a ground defence is suicide.

OOC: Tannelorn - you are a step from getting ignored as you are not reading my posts. My forces have not even shown up at this battle, thus you are wasting your fire. I am going home for the night - withdraw if you will, but you were firing at nothing apparently.

There is no way Tannelorn's navy recieves as much funding either - Mine recieves in excess of 20 Trillion a year. I just haven't updated my page lately. And just because you make a lot of guns, doesn't mean they are good guns - you are in the 50,000 range for smartest citizens. Everything interacts.

OOC: So... the question remains. Shields or no? Heavy armor will protect you to some extent...

Heavy ECM instead of shields, I consider them to be in essence the same. Preventing shots from hitting the ship its self.

OOC: Or they could get out at 300,000km, and target them while stationary. Still - there is no need to take losses from them. They are fixed, with limited firing arcs (straight up apparently) thus they are worthless. Republic ground batteries are on the ground, in plain sight, as to give them a really good firing arc. They are heavily shielded as well.

Just to make sure I'm not mistaken - did you just say your ships have no shields? Or do they have non-VC shields? Cause sand would wear them away to nothing at FTL otherwise.

Staying stationary over a ground defence is suicide.

Quite true! However - I didn't say over. I should have mentioned out as in 300,000km up and to the side. Well out of the firing arc in other words.

ooc
The pilon fleet is simply being Engaged lightly in hit and runs in the asteroid field that should be devastating after all i sent several small ships and a fighter flotilla to intercept and keep them off our backs.

I still have a question for you, how did you send a fleet to engage my forces when we were already there? We were in hyperspace standing by and jumped out when your fleet came out to ambush the Sunset fleet. Answer this and I will have no problems with what you are doing.

The order was given, these cannons were just costing the MIDAS forces too many lives, it was a small sacrifice to pay for the destruction of a cannon. The wise counsel selected a group of 4 fighters for each cannon. The front three would provide cover and weaken the defences and the last would pay the ultimate sacrifice for the good of Pilon, overloading the Null-field protecting the Singularity from the universe and turning the fighter into a large bomb, the Kamikaze pilots knew their memories would live on in the nodelink.

As the fighters flew in toward their targets the fleet began to break away from the AF ships, 3 more Corvettes and a Destroyer were destroyed as they pulls out and regrouped. As they pulled away the Corvettes and Destroyers launched Gravitic mines at the enemy as the Heavier vessels launched Phased Quantum Torpedoes at them. They concentrated solely on the battleships, launching all of their Torpedoes and Mines at the Battleships.

The Fighters also pulled back, 14 more were destroyed before they could regroup, circling like wasps around the Pilonese fleet. They were preparing for something Big...


20 Orbital Defence guns were destroyed, The Airforce wised on to the ploy shooting down the rest of the Kamikazi wings. 25 Cannons stayed operational, 75 missile batteries remained.

Due to the extreme Interference and the fact that the Pilon ships launched their attack from such great distance the majority of the mines and torpedo's were shot down. Except for one salvo that impacted against the hull of the AFSS Obigoron, knocking out two of its port thrusters and destroying a cannon.

Kinslayer ships, caught completely unawares were unable to destroy any of the AF Ships, but they had crippled 3 and severely damaged 6 while lighly damaging 2 others.

OOC:

The Fleet still maintains that very sizeable swarm of Point Defence Drones...thats how the majority of the Torpedo's were splashed.

ooc
The pilon fleet is simply being Engaged lightly in hit and runs in the asteroid field that should be devastating after all i sent several small ships and a fighter flotilla to intercept and keep them off our backs.

I still have a question for you, how did you send a fleet to engage my forces when we were already there? We were in hyperspace standing by and jumped out when your fleet came out to ambush the Sunset fleet. Answer this and I will have no problems with what you are doing.

Ah I can answer that one for you...everyone in Vascilia County knows each other in Real Life. We got together one day and ironed out how Vascilian Space Doctrine would work.

Basically one fleet, mine at this particular time, would assume the role of Planetary defence fleet. While the others would all train and hide out in and around the Asteroid belt.

There our ships would respond to any threat to Vascilia County...and Mars, for that matter. We've always had ships there...quite a few.

OOC: AF, u've been firing at me right?

Yep...we were moving towards you, shooting and then we just jumped out of range of the other fleets and started hitting your fleet from an awkward angle.

The AF Fleet lost 12,000 of its Point Defence drones fending off the wave of Kinslayer fighters, but several(20 to be exacl) impacted the hulls of several frigates and destroyers.

Over time 3 AF Frigates power cores are destroyed by the interaction of the Amoeba's and the energy contained with in. The Ships power went out and the crews suffocated.

Anyway...Im off to bed, Kinslayer post losses from the second AF Bombardment, you can attack but I'll respond tomorrow ok?

OOC: OK, I think Wazzu is officially out of this fight. I'm only on page 4, it has simply been moving too quickly to keep up with, especially with events on Earth.

Unless someone can give me a short summary on events and the current deal?

(ooc: we expected that AF)
in: The fleet continues to launch Mines and Torpedoes (they have not stopped, its a constant stream of incoming fire)

The Battlecrusiers and Heavy Crusiers then fired their PCC's at the Battleship (this is all targetting the same ship, at least until it is destroyed)
The Phased (just in case you don't know what that means, it passes through energy defences and Kinetic and Energy point defence weapons will not effect it) Bursts of Electromagnetically sealed Plasma (like the PPG's on B5... only on the scale of a Naval PPC from BT to give you an idea about these weapon's destructive capabilities) lanced toward the Battleship. (Thats a total of 36 being fired at the one ship)

ooc
The pilon fleet is simply being Engaged lightly in hit and runs in the asteroid field that should be devastating after all i sent several small ships and a fighter flotilla to intercept and keep them off our backs.

I still have a question for you, how did you send a fleet to engage my forces when we were already there? We were in hyperspace standing by and jumped out when your fleet came out to ambush the Sunset fleet. Answer this and I will have no problems with what you are doing.

Ah I can answer that one for you...everyone in Vascilia County knows each other in Real Life. We got together one day and ironed out how Vascilian Space Doctrine would work.

Basically one fleet, mine at this particular time, would assume the role of Planetary defence fleet. While the others would all train and hide out in and around the Asteroid belt.

There our ships would respond to any threat to Vascilia County...and Mars, for that matter. We've always had ships there...quite a few.

Tannelorn and I are discussing things via TG, when he comes on tomorrow we will post what is decided about this problem concerning the ships involved in the Asteroid Belt.

(OOC: Err... People?

I attacked in page 5, still waiting for losses here...

AF, I think you have way less gun emplacements you think you have, and a lot of scorched land and destroyed wall/buildings/whatever...

I am getting seriously OUT OF SYNC here.

Or else, I'll have to assume several HOURS of UNOPPOSED planetary bombardment.

Or, if I have been ignored, the reasons.

)

The Holy Shield absorbed most the impacts, the rest were taken by the Holy One's turrets out before they even had the chance of hitting the ships, sheilds were doewn to 53%, while 3 more cruiser sacrificed themselves by intercepting the dark matter. The Mighty Shin turned it's attention toward the Aelosians, firing another barrage, but this time, one of the torps carried a live 10 megaton nuclear warhead....

Meanwhile 4 dozen dropships carrying thousands of troops and hundreds of tanks left the bays of the "Holy One" racing at full speed towards the Martian surface.

One ShadowDragon Combat Droid launched a Kamikaze attack to destroy the nuclear torpedo, intercepting it near from the imperial ship. (There you got, your own weapon against you).

The Admiral looks though the orbital maps, pointing at the dropships leaving the imperial mothership. "They won't have a ship to return, anyway. Direct all our firepower to that monster, I want that Emperor Battleship destroyed in the most espectacular way. Lock on all weaponry now!". The three Shadow Class Cruisers fired their torpedoes to the Holy One, quickly followed by a barrage of pulsar lances and plasma batteries, aimed all at the center of command of the imperial ship.

A lieutenant approached the Admiral "Sire, we intercepted a message from the Imperial Guard to Tor Yvresse, they want a cease of fire and continue the combat in land". Atheril D'nan nodded "They will find the forces of Tor Yvresse waiting for them in the surface. Give them no rest, no mercy, let's finish our jobs and erase those Mon-Keigh from the stars"

Meanwhile, the rest of the fleet were barely managing to hold the Tannelorn battlefleet, suffering the lost of five ships.

The "Nimloth"
http://www.gamesworkshop.com/40kuniverse/bfg/hobby/galleries/eldar/images/eldar_voidstalker.gif

Shadow Class cruiser
http://www.gamesworkshop.com/40kuniverse/bfg/hobby/galleries/eldar/images/eldar_shadow.gif

'Reply to the Imperial Guard'

'No oh I see you think it cowedice, actually we see it as logical, the more of you we kill up here, the less effort it will be down there. In either case we want to fight you ourselves, after all why should the those that walk the Path of The Outcast be kept from the fun?'

Even as he speaks the Dragon Droids swing into action assulting the Drop Pods directly they move to land on them as they leave the Holy will and rip into the metal exposing the insides to the vacumn of space, of course it would not effect the Marines but the Normal Imperial guards... that may well be a different matter.

((why I wanted you to hold of on landing, I'll have Outcast stats up soon))

OOC:
Mon-Keigh from the stars"

Meanwhile, the rest of the fleet were barely managing to hold the Tannelorn battlefleet, suffering the lost of five ships.

The "Nimloth"
http://www.gamesworkshop.com/40kuniverse/bfg/hobby/galleries/eldar/images/eldar_voidstalker.gif

Shadow Class cruiser
http://www.gamesworkshop.com/40kuniverse/bfg/hobby/galleries/eldar/images/eldar_shadow.gif

ooc: you git! i wanted to use the eldar gothic modils for my ships *cry* back to the drawing bord then :roll:

OOC: Oh, I love those models, my boyfriend owns a whole fleet of eldars, they are soooo nice...but it's natural to be an elven nation and have eldar ships as spaceships

((Outcast Fleet.
Five Helios Destroyers from Tersanctus
1 Orion Class
2 Deimos Class
4 Mentu Class
10 Fenris Class
10 Levithian
10 J’Adorian Class

Plus One mobile Spacedock filled with Fighters and those vessel launch fighters as well. ((Basically I bought this fleet telling the guy I was willing to spend a Trillion after paying for the ships above I had a lot left over, for the fighters I filled the ships and had a lot more fighters owed he gave me the Space Dock free as a thanks. The Helios is the only ship class not discorging fighters I never bought any for it.)) Link for the ships coming when I find it.))

OOC: Now that I've had a nights sleep...

IC:

Asteroid Belt

In order to complete their circle the RRG had been forced to circle quite far out at warp. In fact both groups had left the system for several minutes. This had given the StarLancers time to catch up however - their targets had moved, as well as their gravity wells. It left a nice trail to follow through space to their current position as well as clarification as to what was a ship, and what was an asteroid.

Both groups of ships came out of warp near the same time. The RRG group the moving VC fleet would be heading toward fired a single wave of torpedos, 9000 in all, at warp before dropping out. The torpedo's warp kicker drives would bring them out of warp at 1000km, a blink of an eye for an object going .9c. The 75 ships on that flank dropped out of warp at 100,000km and began firing regular volleys of torpedos.

Aboard the flagship, which looked and acted no different from any other, Admiral Burgess looked over the situation. "They are running - and likely to another fleet. We don't want to get caught in the middle. Helm - all ships are to head down. Take us to .5c. Science - find anything nearby."

They had barely been there a moment when they turned and headed down, out of the field. Most fired one last volley from their lateral or dorsal launchers as they turned, then they accelerated from .1c to .5c over several minutes.

"Keep us ready to jump to warp. Anything comes barreling out of nowhere, hit it." Burgess ordered before checking on the other group.

The other 74 ships of the RRG came out above and behind the allied forces in the asteroid belt. They were much closer to the action, and nearly immediatly they were being hit by fire-through from the opposing fleet. It wasn't much, but it was sapping their shields.

Admiral Wick, in charge of that group, moved over to the helm position. "Helm - have the group follow tactical manuver 42a. All ships are to begin firing at will."

42a was a simple concept - the ships moved into pairs. The one in front would fire several volleys, and at the same time would be rotating with the other ship to move behind it. As soon as the second ship was ahead, it would repeat this. Thus no ship was explosed to enemy fire for too long. They rotated in random directions as well - to keep their opponent guessing.

The ships also began firing - forward torpedo arrays launched strings of kiloton beads towards the opposing ships. Their phaser arrays were used to target enemy fighters near the allied fleet. If VC targetting arrays could be described as really good, Republic targetting arrays were simply disgustingly accurate. Combined with turretless speed of light weapons they targetted a fighter, fired, and switched to another. If by some miracle the fighter survived, it would be targetted by another. All of the ships could put 5 beams into the forward 90 degree cone every second.

Wick recieved a transmission from Burgess. "Watch out for another trap Sam. I don't want to lose anyone." "We will. Helm - you heard the man. Keep a course laid in for Titan. If anything pops up that's where we go."

In the middle of all this, the StarLancers finally dropped out of warp. They had come in near verticle to the opposing fleet, following the largest gravity wells. They dropped out of warp at 100,000km and the mighty Transcorp sublight drives began to pour on the power. They dived for the fleet - these were revised models thus they only had 50,000 tons of iridium in front of the massive drives. But they also had shields - the standard redundant shield arrays of Republic cruisers.

(OOC: The StarLancers are coming in at close range, and I would assume you could track them coming in at least 1mil kilo's away. Feel free to light em up.)

Around Mars...

The battle was descenting into chaos. The dark gods of war and death were taking a higher toll on the Fleet left there. Another 20 ships had falled out of the line - 14 destroyed, and 6 damaged. One had been a recovery cruiser. It had made a dash for a stricken vessel, hoping to move it to safety. But in it's haste the ship had crossed the line of a defense battery and was scattered to the cosmos. Another cruiser grabbed the stricken ship and hauled it off to Titan, where it joined the growing line of ships protected by the TYCS fleets.

The rest of the ships continued to fight though - a single SBG (5 ships) would target a single opposing ship and pour energy into it, both torpedos and phasers. Other SBG's targetted the defense arrays - the novel idea of collapsing the rock under the array was attempted. A single tube fired 10 torpedos - heavy cap ship killers - at the rock. With each explosion large sections of rock were blasted lose. They were aided in this by an old friend - the 800m deep planetary survey that had been done before VC arrived on Mars. They knew what the rock was, how dense it was, and could time their torpedos perfectly to blast as much out at a time as possible.

The Quartermaster's were coming into play as well now - the massive supply rings hovered over the Republic where they continually pulled up torpedos to replinish the thirsty ships that docked with them. This gave the ships a respite - a chance to recharge their shields and perform emergency repairs and off-load injured crewmen.

As in the belt, the StarLancers made their appearance. These were the older models - no shields, just a large amount of really hard to affect metal. They headed for the remaining orbital batteries on a collision course. Even as they accelerated toward their targets, they prepared to execute new orders. Once they had plowed through their target they would circle around the planet and repeat, destroying a new target.

Ahh Indeed The Battles.

Well here goes Martian Asteroid Belt.

The Two Pursuing Fleets where caught only briefly flatfooted before they began to move outwards, Squad and wing commanders taking the initiive, and not waiting for the confirming orders from Fleet command.

First A Cruiser Hunt pack Broke of, then another each swinging towards a Target enemy vessel and coming at it now from below, aiming to go past the enemy and turn rapidly to head back down it would be a flypast till the vessel was eliminated.

Each Pack had a different Target as was standard.

They where quickly followed in this course of action by the other two Packs of the Pursuing fleets and by the Two Packs of the Defence fleet, 30 Cruisers each in groups of five hungary targeting a single vessel till destruction and never ceasing in this aim.

The fighters of these Fleets also began to engage following the Packs in now they duelled with any remaining VC fighters or are aiming directly for the same vessels being targeted by the hunter Packs. Picket vessels swarmed Defesivly around the Tor Yvresse Capital Ships as they began their own asullt into the heart of the beast, taking it close and making the enemy pay. Onboard each of the carriers Torpedoes locked into place and Striking scorpions prepared to move begin their own part of this battle.

((Yep the Carriers of each fleet so thats 12 carriers each contain a Marines group of Scorpion Aspect Warriors who will board the old 40K style Boarding torpedoes... (100 Scorpions per Carrier) Only the Flagship dosn't follow BFG type lines, The Cruisers are the Gun on a ship chasis, the Carriers are the two second biggest of the Eldar ship classes, and the Pickets are an assorted mix of the smallest Capital ship class. I don't know the real names of hand but hay it's their role so it'll do))

Around Mars,

A Cruiser began to burn and die out as the Oxygen inside gave way and the Eldar's Bodies for a moment could be made out by their Pack mates, before ithe same exploded,

another Fifteen Fighters joined the mass of debris encirculing the Battlefield, and still it raged on. The eldar's remaining First Khaines Fleet was tasked with the Tannelorn defenders even as Outcast hit the Imperium, now the Carriers in the fleet too prepared for the Boarding of the enemy vessels and Scorpions gathered for the assult as the Fighters and Cruisers formed up around the Main body of the assult, and drove psuhing through fighters on the way, an occasional explosion ripped through the stars as another fighter joined the deceased, and still the eldar pressed on Cruisers firing ahead, and the Flagships guns tracking all around it, Fighters rushing out to meet oncoming threats from the Tannelorn groups, rents and tears began to form along many of the Cruisers...

Another Explosion from the same pack another Cruiser gone, but they where almost in sight of the Target the Tannelorn carriers could be seen and onboard each of the carriers of the Eldar Fleet smiles went up as the Exarchs in charge of the Scorpion assult Companies smiled.

Mel'nais smiled also...

'Excellent we have the co-ordiantes fixed Transmit back to our Helios, they are to exit Hyperspace at these co-ordinates on my mark and target five of the vessels we have not boarded.'

'Understood Farseer'

((Note Ah here goes Outcast Fleet has Five Helios as does the TY Official Fleet. OF has just used all five Yamotas on the Imperial Guard vessel, however the original five have not I believe used them yet.))

casulties from this mad dash through the fighter screen 1 Cruiser 100 Fighters (Leaving this fleet roughly 205 Fighters from an initial 400 Total to this Fleet all it's Picket vessels and 2 Cruisers 195 Fighters.)

(OOC: It is funny how in the middle of all this chaos, the attack of eight 2.4 Km. long ships firing their main guns can be lost.
Actually it isn't.
But if things keep this way, I'll have reduced every antiorbital gun VC has in Yamato range to molten slag several times, and made all the VC's Hellas Basin Sea access into a lava sea. TY uses five Helios, I use eight, but oh the different action they see. From my POV, several RP hours have passed. At least, some of the actions depicted include delays and repositioning of large forces.
Right now I have positioned myself 30 RP minutes forward, and have launched 3 full Yamato barrages. If things keep this way, tomorrow, I'll be 60 RP minutes forward and 5 Yamato barrages, and still waiting for any reaction. Sigh.)

((Indeed VC nations Respond to DS please, this is getting foolish))

OOC: I'm still waiting for the Imperial guard's response to my attack...

(OOC: It seems that when he is online, I am at home, without DSL access (still!!) and you people post so mucho he doesn't even see mine. :)

AND when I am online, he is busy in other things...

Just when he comes online, remind him to have a look and post the losses. My first (and only) attack is on the lower part of page 5, IIRC.

Oh, Tor Yvresse: If you are online when he starts posting, you are expressly authorized to RP for me my troops. At least move them around and retreat them if RP makes you lose more than five helios. Try to avoid the destruction of the Fleet Admiral's ship. You know the Helios' possibilities, so I'm fairly confident they'll do a good part.

My intentions are in my post, but I repeat them here: one, blow up as many antiorbital guns as possible (three helios doing that) and the other five are attacking the ground in the part of VC that is in touch with the Hellas Basin Inner sea, to make him retreat back to the south pole. This second move is more to attract attention and may be open a hole somewhere else for someone to take advantage. He cannot be everywhere. :)

All eight ships are over the hellas basin sea, in a low orbit, and keeping position on thrust, firing from there.

Well... Now I have to do some work. Really. I shouldn't have been NSing now.)

The "Holy One's" Shields was effectively down to 22%, with all of it's remaining cruisers gone and having major hull damage, it was vulnerable. They only had one option...

Eldar of Tor Yvresse and Aelosia! We concede defeat....we would like to discuss peace....

Unknown to the eldar, the admiral secretly armed the "Holy One" self destruct mechanism, which would result in a 30 megaton blast if detonated.

The Drones manage to land on 5 of the dropships, causing armor breaches on all them, suffocating the occupants inside. The remaining dropships had manage to fight of the drones with their turrets.

(OOC: Err... People?

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Or else, I'll have to assume several HOURS of UNOPPOSED planetary bombardment.)

It wasn't unopposed bombardment, Comrade. The Ground defence cannons shoot back you know...but please check my recent post on how difficult Ground Defence cannons are to destroy.

I'll give you a short run down.

-Built into geographical features
-Massive ECM
-Heavy Shielding(VC Shields aren't plausible for space ships but are for ground defences)

so yeah...thats what it was so difficult, Also, you guys think that these things fire in a straight line, they actually fire in a conical arc.

"Peace?. Sorry, you're talking with the wrong guy. I'm just a soldier, and my orders are to bring down your flagship at any cost. I will transmit your message to our HQ, and expect new orders. But you used a weapon of mass destruction here, so if I was you, I wouldn't expect mercy", says the Admiral to the commander of the "Holy One"."The best I can do is board your ship with the ShadowDragon Combat Droids, to prevent more bloodshed, so prepare your crew to surrender"

40 Dragon droids approaches the imperial ship, and begin to open a breach in its hull. The rest of the Aelosian Fleet waited, all their weaponry aimed at the remaining imperial ships.

(OOC: Err... People?

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Or else, I'll have to assume several HOURS of UNOPPOSED planetary bombardment.)

It wasn't unopposed bombardment, Comrade. The Ground defence cannons shoot back you know...but please check my recent post on how difficult Ground Defence cannons are to destroy.

I'll give you a short run down.

-Built into geographical features
-Massive ECM
-Heavy Shielding(VC Shields aren't plausible for space ships but are for ground defences)

so yeah...thats what it was so difficult, Also, you guys think that these things fire in a straight line, they actually fire in a conical arc.

OOC: That makes a lot more sense, though your descriptions up until this point have made them sound like they are purely straight up weapons. Again, be more careful as to avoid confusion.

OOC:

Sunset...Space Fold leaves no trail to follow friend.

Freehold is a station orbitting a world that is unknown to all...thats where VC is going to put its fleet when we're not actually playing. Sort of a safe haven until we wake up the next morning.

IC:

The Imperator, seeing that his enemies had reoriented themselves to his position came to the conclusion to disengage from the battle. Suddenly his vessel was struck several times by the Kinslayer. "Sir! the SIT Engines have been knocked out!" bellowed Kinezki's second officer "Damn it! It doesn't matter...Order the rest of the fleet to jump to Freehold...We'll hold them off until they can get out of here." he ordered.

In a brilliant flash of light the fleet had retreated to Freehold station, except for ten ships. My god...it was his protection convoy. "This is Captain Yulentz, sir...I suggest we give these bastards something to remember us by." "Agreed" said the Imperator. The AFSS Yamato and 9 heavy cruisers belonging to his convoy charged directly at the Kinslayer firing weapons at full power, Detonating their power cores when they had made it close enough.

2 heavy cruisers were destroyed in the battle, 1 was crippled and detonated its power core thinking that they may hit some of the enemy. The Yamato battled the the Planetship for a surprising amount of time, 1 and a half minutes before it had take to much damage and was forced to destroy itself. The Rest of the cruisers fought to the best of their ablility before detonating.

***

When the Overlord Celazk's ship appeared outside of Freehold he was immediately contacted by the Norieganian fleet commander...Gonzalez or something like that. "What the hell happened to your fleet man!" Celazk was to tired to give a real response, "War, Comrade...it tends to do that." the Norieganian commander looked shocked by his response. "So we are at war with MIDAS then?...bastards, they finally did it!" Gonzalez turned red with rage. "We must strike back! In the name of the Confederacy! in the name of the League!" Celazk cut him off "Kinezki is dead, so is the Founder...but the wall still holds." the Norieganian looked apologetic, "Kinezki...he was an able commander. Im sorry, I know you relationship with the man." Imperator Kinezki had adopted Overlord Celazk when he saved him from a refugee ship. His parents were killed in a raid by Colonial forces. "It doesn't matter..." sighed Celazk.

***

Overlord Filomena Sanian had finally been blooded in combat and as saddened as she had been by the death of so many of her people she felt proud, her Fleet had done the best today...on one of her vessels lost to enemy fire. She could barely keep from smiling.

***

Overlord Zhukat stood defiant on the wall, 'what could these Eldar possible bring to us?' he thought to himself.

***

Freehold station was stirring with activity, the Medical bays were choked with wounded and dead...The Imperator would not be please.

Fools! We would never surrender to you! May the Emperor smite your wretched souls, you craphole of a race! See ya in hell eldar pigs! The Admiral said almost with a psuchotic tone.

The ships engine lighted up, running at full speed as it raced towards the Aelosian ships. Entire sections of the ships were blown off by the fire from the Eldar ships, but the tough ship perservered, keeping itself together long enough for it to get close to the eldar. The admiral took the chance and pushed the red button, engulfing the ship and surrounding area in a massive blast of white light.

Fools! We would never surrender to you! May the Emperor smite your wretched souls, you craphole of a race! See ya in hell eldar pigs! The Admiral said almost with a psuchotic tone.

The ships engine lighted up, running at full speed as it raced towards the Aelosian ships. Entire sections of the ships were blown off by the fire from the Eldar ships, but the tough ship perservered, keeping itself together long enough for it to get close to the eldar. The admiral took the chance and pushed the red button, engulfing the ship and surrounding area in a massive blast of white light.

(OOC: Very bad idea.)

Idiots! Don't they realize what havoc they could wreak? Thank heavens it wasn't near Yggdrasil!

The big chunks o' stuff kept on coming, aimed at any and every orbital combatant, save only those who did nothing but drop bombs and avoided ship-to-ship fire.

ooc dont forget I have a battlegroup there. umm Tor, what happened when i fired the cannon at the Void stalker.

"Captain, Orders" a voice from the weapons Balcony called out." Keep firing on the Eldar Vessels, Katana's Break off and engage the Aelosian Ships,. All Veritechs, Destroy those ridiculous Drones" Captain Raimyu Barked.

As one the Mass of Veritech ALphas and Betas released a veritable Cloud of thousands of missiles arcing towards teh drones, befoer going to high maneuver mode to engage any that survived, The Katana's spat Torpedo after torpedo towards teh Aelosian Vessels Whil the 2 Ikazuckis moved in to range over a dozen High energy turrets tracing an arc of death towards the eldar Vessels, their high energy ingelstung Cannons firing at extreme close range........

ooc off to school now last post till later

"Oh, treachery...amusing, typical of the Mon-Keigh. Had you prepared the warphole for the escape, navigator?" says the Admiral, smiling.

"Yes, Sire, but...Why we didn't escaped before?, if you knew that they were going to betray us and try to blast us?", says the navigator, trembling of fear at the sight of the incoming imperial ship.

"Because I wanted to rest assure that they were going to destroy ther own ship. That was my mission. I know that they are going to ram our ship, then press the auto destruction device. They could get mercy from us, but today they preferred death. Their actions are foolish, but brave indeed. Maybe we can't take them so lightly the next time".

The "Holy One", approached the "Nimloth" through the formation of the eldar fleet. "Hold....hold...hold, now!, open the warphole!" shouted the admiral. The Aelosian ship opened a huge gasp in the outer space, dissappearing into the warp at the same moment the Holy One exploded in a huge blast of light and fire.

Now floating peacefully in the orbit of Venus, the Vice Admiral removed her helmet and salute the Admiral "A master piece of space warfare, your plan was perfect and flawless, Admiral. I'm proud of being your subordinate"

Atheril D'nan smiled again, yes, almost everything resulted as he expected, but why he wasn't happy? "That was far from perfect, we lost 7 frigates, 14 destroyers and 25 gunships, and three of our cruisers are crippled. Just head to Aelosia. Maybe I should resign when I arrived, I couldn't prevent the death of countless fathers, brothers and sons"

Any way...this is going to have to end for today. The computer isn't working good.

So yeah, Me and Tannelorn cant respond(We're brothers)

Meanwhile...

OOC information here...Vascilia County has two incredibly powerful EMP weapons that you dont know about, We're going to unleash them if anyone goes into positioning to fire at the Hellespontos Defence Wall. This is ooc info so you cant act on it...

I reckon no amount of Tech wanking on Sunsets part can prevent the destruction of the vessels that get caught in the blast...problem is it takes alot of energy to power them...so firing them a bunch of times would be impossible...but you dont know that.

The Breen from Star Trek used that sort of a weapon on Star Fleet, just so you know Sunset, you seem to be a star trek fan.

So anyway...these things are hidden very well, If you guys majickly detect it I would consider that to be bad form...the EMP gun is to keep the ground war in the Southern hemisphere clean of your blasted Ortillery.

OOC: Um, why? Its not like we can declare damages or movement for you. Don't think anything is untrackable though - first, it will get you ignored. Anything that cannot be countered is godmodding, unless you get the specific permission of those involved. I don't care at this point, but I may change that if you use it to declare yourself untargettable or some such sillyness.

Any way...this is going to have to end for today. The computer isn't working good.

So yeah, Me and Tannelorn cant respond(We're brothers)

Meanwhile...

OOC information here...Vascilia County has two incredibly powerful EMP weapons that you dont know about, We're going to unleash them if anyone goes into positioning to fire at the Hellespontos Defence Wall. This is ooc info so you cant act on it...

I reckon no amount of Tech wanking on Sunsets part can prevent the destruction of the vessels that get caught in the blast...problem is it takes alot of energy to power them...so firing them a bunch of times would be impossible...but you dont know that.

The Breen from Star Trek used that sort of a weapon on Star Fleet, just so you know Sunset, you seem to be a star trek fan.

So anyway...these things are hidden very well, If you guys majickly detect it I would consider that to be bad form...the EMP gun is to keep the ground war in the Southern hemisphere clean of your blasted Ortillery.

OOC: Godmod - If it cannot be countered, then it is a godmod. And actually we do know about them - you posted them on your regional board without marking it as OOC. If I was a jerk, I could use that against you. Regional boards are subject to the same OOC/IC limitations as posts. You cannot just consider them secure.

And we do know how much power they draw actually - our sensors are quite good enough to watch your power grid. If it's EM radiation, it shows up.

Don't assume we are Star Fleet though. I base my tech on ST to some extent, but not completely as that would be foolish. The weapon the Breen used was what is called a 'literary device'. Again - anything can be countered. If it cannot, it is godmodding and will be ignored. You two don't seem to be getting the point that there must be balance, and that the balance is determined by the older nations. If you don't like that, play with the others who don't like it. You will find it boring.

ooc Same point, Never said it would knock out the whole fleet, its just a hideously powerful weapon for use against the attacking fleet. I mean we knew you would see it, so now you know, which means you have to try and find and kill them before moving a large fleet group in [my estimate was between 30-50% of enemy ships would be disabled to one degree or another...not destroyed, maybe even not immobile...but the point is this....Every nation is VAscilia is mobilised....13 nations most with frightening economy militaristic Societies. Oh And Sunset.....Arms industry does mean GOOD weapons...not just lots...it means you have the most advanced weapons...my weapons and yours are equal for instance., whereas your weapons outstrip say, Bevrage concerns or turksilvania and norieganian outstrips Bajon!!!!!!!!!!!!! whom outstrips you and i for instance.

IC of the 15 katana's and over one thousand veritechs that Attacked
9 of the katana's were still fully operational, two more were crippled but still able to move under their own power.....the Veritechs that performed so solidly against the drones, and the Crimmond fighters once again proved their mettle, destroying most of the unmanned drones with little loss several hundred were damaged, but most were able to make it back or at least bail out.

ooc Yeah this is the majour fleet engagement i am part of from earlier, the Tor Yvressan ships are engaged and i am waiting on that :)

AF, my forces never left Bajon, so bull on your attack against them. And the bombardment of Vascilia City was by the Vanguard fleet, dipping into the atmosphere and firing, so it would be extremely hard to hit them.

IC:
The Bajoni 1st Armada had arrived with the vanguard force. Now, 30 Bajoni battleships sat silently outside of Mars orbit. They arranged in 6 formations, and awaited the command...

Message to Vascilia County:
"Surrender to Bajon, and we will discuss terms. If you refuse, then you will be brought to your knees."
-Empress Nisha Redoran

Oh And Sunset.....Arms industry does mean GOOD weapons...not just lots...it means you have the most advanced weapons...my weapons and yours are equal for instance., whereas your weapons outstrip say, Bevrage concerns or turksilvania and norieganian outstrips Bajon!!!!!!!!!!!!! whom outstrips you and i for instance.


No - no it doesn't. This is your opinion, but the majority does not agree with you. The poll is quite specific - it says 'largest arms manufacturing sector' not best, not 'highest quality'. You make a lot of guns - congradulations. The quality is based on many things - population base, education, IT sector, RP quality, and the feelings of the general NS population towards the tech being used.

Message to MIDAS and Allied Forces: (Not VC)
"If any of your fleets are located in orbit over Vascilia County, you are instructed to move them. If you do not, Bajon does not claim responsibility for what may happen to them."
-Empress Nisha Redoran

OOC: Something to respond to IC, finally. Am I to take it the VC fleets have retreated fully?

IC:

"Do I want to know? Nope. Pull everything back - nothing really there anyway." Filbeck listened to the transmission again.

What fleet assets were in the space described pulled back, taking hulks of craft with them. They had been steadily reducing the ground defenses in the area - no real action was going on. This also got them out of the debris that had been 'popping up outta nowhere.'

This would also give them a chance to break down and analyze all the information they had recieved through the course of the battle. Damage outputs of opposing weapons were analyzed carefully, as well as the hulks of ships they had just drug back. The recover cruisers went into action along with rear-echelon ships that had not seen a lot of action. They found the hulks of Republic and friendly vessels and tractored them back, rescuing crews and taking prisoners in the case of the rare VC crew they recovered.

The FTL method used by VC was broken down as well - it needed to be countered.

Using the magic of fluid time, my transmission, the withdrawls of fleets above VC, and such will all finish up tomorrow night (RT). Why? I have guitar lessons in the afternoon. Anyways, AF, no response to this until tomorrow night, since VC will only see fleets "retreating" out of orbit.

So yeah, fluid time until tomorrow night. People, post your fleets moving (or staying), and I will conclude my actions tomorrow. Cya then.

OOC:

There has been some dispute over ship numbers and combat ability.

As I am often known as one of my semi-IC/OOC charicters, The Cardboard Avenger, and as I have not been able to take part in this conflict becuase of lack of time, let me try and resolve this dispute.

Sunset has given me the following information on his fleet.

Over 600 ship, all under 500 meters. We'll average this out and say exactly 600 ships all 500 meters long.

Nations of Vascilia County, could you please post the total numbers and lengths of ships in each of your nations, and of VC as a whole?

I will will give a determination with semi-mathematical evidence as support as the the relative strengths of each nation's fleets.

I'll do this for anyone else who wants it too.

I have 55 warships. Each around 1km long. 25 usually stay near Earth. Fleet actions take place in formations of 5 ships. Any more info, just ask.

Any way...this is going to have to end for today. The computer isn't working good.

So yeah, Me and Tannelorn cant respond(We're brothers)

Meanwhile...

OOC information here...Vascilia County has two incredibly powerful EMP weapons that you dont know about, We're going to unleash them if anyone goes into positioning to fire at the Hellespontos Defence Wall. This is ooc info so you cant act on it...

I reckon no amount of Tech wanking on Sunsets part can prevent the destruction of the vessels that get caught in the blast...problem is it takes alot of energy to power them...so firing them a bunch of times would be impossible...but you dont know that.

The Breen from Star Trek used that sort of a weapon on Star Fleet, just so you know Sunset, you seem to be a star trek fan.

So anyway...these things are hidden very well, If you guys majickly detect it I would consider that to be bad form...the EMP gun is to keep the ground war in the Southern hemisphere clean of your blasted Ortillery.

You forgot to mention the limited range of those EMP cannons of yours, only 10,000 Kilometers. Our intelligence discovered your EMP and know about the weapons.

Message to MIDAS and Allied Forces: (Not VC)
"If any of your fleets are located in orbit over Vascilia County, you are instructed to move them. If you do not, Bajon does not claim responsibility for what may happen to them."
-Empress Nisha Redoran

Pilon pulls their fleets out of the area.

Admiral Greer leaned back in his chair, taking a deep, calming breath. After losing another battle group (5), destroyed and disabled, he had thought they would get a crack at getting in close to the AF fleet. But again, the AF fleet fled, leaving a token complement of ships behind. Assuming they were disabled, the Battle Fleet approached, thinking to surround them and capture them. They were caught off-guard when the Af ships attacked, and 3 more Solar Destroyers were severely damaged in the barage, and fully three more battle groups (15) were lost in the explosions of the ships. Shaking his head at the losses, Admiral Greer looked at his comm officer. "Tell the Worldships that we will meet them at the Sunset position. We'll need to leave a few ships here to nursemaid the damaged Destroyers back to our space. Assign the 33rd battle group to that task. Recover our fighters and get me a line to Sunset."

"On it sir."

"Sunset fleet, this is Master Admiral Greer. The AF fleet has fled for the time being, and we are coming to your posistion. We respectfully request that you do not shoot us when we arrive. Our damaged ships will arrive in approximately 30 minutes, and we'll be there in 30 seconds."

ooc Sunset is being ignored because he doesnt want to RP he just wants to win...all vascilia losses caused by sunset are over period....Basically Yes we do have good stuff...its better FOR RP which is what we are trying to do here now the rest of you are fine and willing to RP which is absolutely great and you are all, especially Bajon and Aelosia, And TOr Yvresse more then welcome to continue, Pilon you as well i am not forgetting ;) remember its about story. But Sunset refuses to accept that we have good militaries....and we do. so on to it then. Bajon is attacking through the Atmosphere??? excellent the Naval troopers get to go on the attack [ a group of about 40 [4000 men] were still on Ground surface so they have about 30 ships to call upon [10 are heavily engaged in Roania.]
but now for ship types. WEll Tannelorn has the best funded fleet in Vascilia and it is actually similar in Composition to Bajon.
Ok Ikazucki Fleet Carrier length about 1km Power plants 20 fusion generators, main armamant 500 Veritech fighters., 16 maser Cannons and 16 missile bays. aas WEll as the Standoff weapon Ingelstung, Innacurate at medium [combat ranges] but brutally accurate at long and extreme short ranges [spinal mount] It is capable of killing crimmonds Super Dreads in two shots according to an Earlier RP. Essentially fleet Command base.
Katana A navy version of the GArfish, 350 feet long, Armed with triple rapid Fire X-raylaser cannon 96 Anti ship torp's[from 6 launch tubes] and a pds as well as carries 18 fighters [even mix of Alpha's and Beta's] Very fast and maneuverable.
Garfish the Grey Ships of the Naval Marines the most elite unit in VC [all nano augmented biological nanites of course] they number only 20 000 but cost as much as our whole army!!!!!! best equipment, The Garfish have a single Pin point barrier [Ikazucki's have 5 200 foot force field explained earlier] same armament as Katana's but troop carrying Capacity as well as boarding shuttles but only 36 torps. its most important
feature is a cloaking device bought off of AF which essentially obscures the ship from all but visual targetting [manual]
ok in the tannelorn Navy their are 30 Ikazuckis, 240 katana's and 120 Garfish [under a Different command]
the Veritechs transform from high speed to high maneuver and are the heart of the fleet essentially they have GE pilots and are VERY maneuverable [not so much the beta] and Armed with masers capable of Damaging anything as well as 60 missiles for the alpha and 100 missiles and 6 Anti ship missiles and Two torpedoes for the beta.
Now the Eternal is powered by 16 Antimatter generators [for the SPace fold] two loengren's [ a larger turreted ingelstung] 4 ingestung and literally 24 torp bays, and 48 maser turrets. It took 15 years to build and cost 15 trillion and is the new flagship it carries one thousand fighters [Tannelorn navy has jurisdiction over ground support thats why they have so many fighters] ok so that should settle what i have, oh and Two Genesis Fission Cascade Systems [imagine ingelstung with 200 times the power] If anyone wants to know how it works in RL Msg Tannelorn...i am the only one who does haha. basically a massive Array that shoots beams capable of obliterating meteors. with 200km spread...very big, very immobile and the Tannelorn as a just an honourable people do not intend to use it....yet.

IC:

The Imperator, seeing that his enemies had reoriented themselves to his position came to the conclusion to disengage from the battle. Suddenly his vessel was struck several times by the Kinslayer. "Sir! the SIT Engines have been knocked out!" bellowed Kinezki's second officer "Damn it! It doesn't matter...Order the rest of the fleet to jump to Freehold...We'll hold them off until they can get out of here." he ordered.

In a brilliant flash of light the fleet had retreated to Freehold station, except for ten ships.

OOC: No, they didn't. Because of this. (Boldface added for emphasis.)


The Third Fleet of the Ravenspire Spacy folded out behind the Anti-Funitism forces: twenty of the sleek, teardrop-shaped quicksilver craft of apparently-seamless design; ten of the larger, lozenge-like starships, similarly seamless; and dozens of the silver crescent-shaped fighters, already deployed, and 'hitchhiking' the space-fold generated by the larger craft.

Immediately, five of the largest craft initiated spacelocking, 'reinforcing' the local spacetime in order to make dimensional shifts, spatial folds, temporal compression, and many methods of FTL difficult and power-consuming for very large ships, and nigh-impossible for anything smaller. The teardrop-shaped cruisers fired upon the Anti-Funitist fleet, ignoring for the moment smaller fighters in favor of larger craft, which could be located by their gravitic signatures. Microwave lasers were the most numerous weapons, thanks to their electronics-disabling effects, but particle beams and mass drivers were also well-represented.

The AF forces cited are the ones that were attacking The Kinslayers', so they're not jumping anywhere while that field's up. Maybe a couple of capital ships could get through -- not instantaneously, though -- but the bulk of that particular fleet is not capable of jumping at the moment, because only your biggest ships could possibly generate the power required.

Sunset has Ignored Tannelorn. This war has degenerated into bickering and non-sense. Its over until both sides can actually agree on things.

The way Vascilia County see's things, You guys are being arrogant. Especially Sunset. Apparently Sunset believes himself to be invincible...according to him he is the greatest. This is bad RP, we considered ignoring him. But we came to the conclusion that ignoring someone because you disagree with them (Thats the reason Sunset used to ignore Tannelorn) is bad RP. So in short...

The War is over until Sunset quits being a douche and actually takes hits. I lost 2 of my 8 fleets in the first phase of the war only to have you guys take 1 or 2 ships off...sorry to ruin your fun, but the war is over until Sunset can grow up.

No offence to the rest of you guys but Sunset is being a bit of a dink...Tech Wanking and what not. True RP is for drama...Nationstates isn't about win or lose its how you play the game. Its supposed to be fun for both sides. It has turned into an argument as to who has better equipment...Thats not how I see things. Its about drama, and enriching the background of ones country.

Sunset has Ignored Tannelorn. This war has degenerated into bickering and non-sense. Its over until both sides can actually agree on things.

The way Vascilia County see's things, You guys are being arrogant. Especially Sunset. Apparently Sunset believes himself to be invincible...according to him he is the greatest. This is bad RP, we considered ignoring him. But we came to the conclusion that ignoring someone because you disagree with them (Thats the reason Sunset used to ignore Tannelorn) is bad RP. So in short...

The War is over until Sunset quits being a douche and actually takes hits. I lost 2 of my 8 fleets in the first phase of the war only to have you guys take 1 or 2 ships off...sorry to ruin your fun, but the war is over until Sunset can grow up.

No offence to the rest of you guys but Sunset is being a bit of a dink...Tech Wanking and what not. True RP is for drama...Nationstates isn't about win or lose its how you play the game. Its supposed to be fun for both sides. It has turned into an argument as to who has better equipment...Thats not how I see things. Its about drama, and enriching the background of ones country.

Well. I agree with this. However, I had already withdrew my fleet from mars...This is sad, I quite enjoyed some people's Rping, anyway...

Tannelorn, perhaps you didn't hear me. What I said was:

OOC:

There has been some dispute over ship numbers and combat ability.

As I am often known as one of my semi-IC/OOC charicters, The Cardboard Avenger, and as I have not been able to take part in this conflict becuase of lack of time, let me try and resolve this dispute.

Sunset has given me the following information on his fleet.

Over 600 ship, all under 500 meters. We'll average this out and say exactly 600 ships all 500 meters long.

Nations of Vascilia County, could you please post the total numbers and lengths of ships in each of your nations, and of VC as a whole?

I will will give a determination with semi-mathematical evidence as support as the the relative strengths of each nation's fleets.

I'll do this for anyone else who wants it too.

Pay particular interest to: "Nations of Vascilia County, could you please post the total numbers and lengths of ships in each of your nations, and of VC as a whole?"

I don't need to know how many torpedos, the strength of guns, or the types of fighters each ship carries.

I need to know numbers of ships of each length...where I will compare to other players such as Sunset and Bajon (who have both provided information).

Using Wazzu as an example (which has few ships).

4 Escort Carriers, 233 meters long
8 Frigates, 200 meters long
12 CG ships, 252 meters long
18 Corvettes, 195 meters long

So 42 spaceships totalling 9066 meters in length.

We could also add in Wazzu's small ships, the ones that are hardly capible of flight between nearby planets (Venus, Earth, and Mars...MAYBE the asteroid belt).

13 Heavy Gunboats, 50 meters long
~300 Light Gunboats, 25 meters long.

Thats what I need from you. Something that simple, that neat, and from that, defense spending in your nation, population, and a bit of economy, I can generate a mathematical score of about how good your ships are.

IC:

The Imperator, seeing that his enemies had reoriented themselves to his position came to the conclusion to disengage from the battle. Suddenly his vessel was struck several times by the Kinslayer. "Sir! the SIT Engines have been knocked out!" bellowed Kinezki's second officer "Damn it! It doesn't matter...Order the rest of the fleet to jump to Freehold...We'll hold them off until they can get out of here." he ordered.

In a brilliant flash of light the fleet had retreated to Freehold station, except for ten ships.

OOC: No, they didn't. Because of this. (Boldface added for emphasis.)


The Third Fleet of the Ravenspire Spacy folded out behind the Anti-Funitism forces: twenty of the sleek, teardrop-shaped quicksilver craft of apparently-seamless design; ten of the larger, lozenge-like starships, similarly seamless; and dozens of the silver crescent-shaped fighters, already deployed, and 'hitchhiking' the space-fold generated by the larger craft.

Immediately, five of the largest craft initiated spacelocking, 'reinforcing' the local spacetime in order to make dimensional shifts, spatial folds, temporal compression, and many methods of FTL difficult and power-consuming for very large ships, and nigh-impossible for anything smaller. The teardrop-shaped cruisers fired upon the Anti-Funitist fleet, ignoring for the moment smaller fighters in favor of larger craft, which could be located by their gravitic signatures. Microwave lasers were the most numerous weapons, thanks to their electronics-disabling effects, but particle beams and mass drivers were also well-represented.

The AF forces cited are the ones that were attacking The Kinslayers', so they're not jumping anywhere while that field's up. Maybe a couple of capital ships could get through -- not instantaneously, though -- but the bulk of that particular fleet is not capable of jumping at the moment, because only your biggest ships could possibly generate the power required.


Ok Ravenspire...you dont know how Vascilian Space Fold Technology works. Vascilian Transit technology has nothing to do with moving in real space, its dimensional travel. They moved themselves out of combat...they dont have to pass through anything.

But anyway...the wars over, no one wins due to bad RP on Sunsets side...I can get my ships out of harms way because all you guys want to do is dominate. Which is lame.

The bad RP has been multiway.

I missed pages 4-10, but this is what I have noticed.

Non-VC people are generally not taking losses.

VC people are generally ignoring or completely skipping over entire posts, or portions of posts that are inconvenient.

Neither side is entirely at fault.

I think we can still do this if we:

1: Make some ground rules
2: Make seperate IC and OOC threads (AFTER the ground rules).
3: Start from the begining.
4: ALL post our TOTAL fleet numbers/sizes (and perhaps a few, simple, short stats) and locations BEFORE combat begins.

IC:

The Imperator, seeing that his enemies had reoriented themselves to his position came to the conclusion to disengage from the battle. Suddenly his vessel was struck several times by the Kinslayer. "Sir! the SIT Engines have been knocked out!" bellowed Kinezki's second officer "Damn it! It doesn't matter...Order the rest of the fleet to jump to Freehold...We'll hold them off until they can get out of here." he ordered.

In a brilliant flash of light the fleet had retreated to Freehold station, except for ten ships.

OOC: No, they didn't. Because of this. (Boldface added for emphasis.)


The Third Fleet of the Ravenspire Spacy folded out behind the Anti-Funitism forces: twenty of the sleek, teardrop-shaped quicksilver craft of apparently-seamless design; ten of the larger, lozenge-like starships, similarly seamless; and dozens of the silver crescent-shaped fighters, already deployed, and 'hitchhiking' the space-fold generated by the larger craft.

Immediately, five of the largest craft initiated spacelocking, 'reinforcing' the local spacetime in order to make dimensional shifts, spatial folds, temporal compression, and many methods of FTL difficult and power-consuming for very large ships, and nigh-impossible for anything smaller. The teardrop-shaped cruisers fired upon the Anti-Funitist fleet, ignoring for the moment smaller fighters in favor of larger craft, which could be located by their gravitic signatures. Microwave lasers were the most numerous weapons, thanks to their electronics-disabling effects, but particle beams and mass drivers were also well-represented.

The AF forces cited are the ones that were attacking The Kinslayers', so they're not jumping anywhere while that field's up. Maybe a couple of capital ships could get through -- not instantaneously, though -- but the bulk of that particular fleet is not capable of jumping at the moment, because only your biggest ships could possibly generate the power required.

Ok Ravenspire...you dont know how Vascilian Space Fold Technology works. Vascilian Transit technology has nothing to do with moving in real space, its dimensional travel. They moved themselves out of combat...they dont have to pass through anything.

OOC: Note the part in boldface where I said dimensional travel doesn't work.

Note also that Ravenspire is probably the leader in space-time-dimension manipulation -- and in particular, we were the first on NS to employ spacefolding. That would be RL months before you existed. We know how it works, and we have refined it to a very high degree, since it lies within our area of specialization.

But anyway...the wars over, no one wins due to bad RP on Sunsets side...I can get my ships out of harms way because all you guys want to do is dominate. Which is lame.

Seems to me you've realized you're going to get your ass kicked, and you're belatedly trying to ignore the entire thing. Rather like the Kali Corp and Mishakal situations. Except at least Mishakal tried to address things IC. Granted, he did it by declaring unilaterally that the war was over, but at least it was a try.

I also find it ironic that you're accusing anyone of bad RP, after repeatedly failing to acknowledge attacks.

I won't be invoking Ravenspire RP policy -- at least not yet -- because I'm really a minor participant here, and it's the others who should be taking the lead. However, I will reserve the right to do so in the future. Ignores to avoid IC consequences are... lame, to use your terminology. I do not encourage them.

(Double-post)

The bad RP has been multiway.

I missed pages 4-10, but this is what I have noticed.

Non-VC people are generally not taking losses.

VC people are generally ignoring or completely skipping over entire posts, or portions of posts that are inconvenient.

Neither side is entirely at fault.

I think we can still do this if we:

1: Make some ground rules
2: Make seperate IC and OOC threads (AFTER the ground rules).
3: Start from the begining.
4: ALL post our TOTAL fleet numbers/sizes (and perhaps a few, simple, short stats) and locations BEFORE combat begins.

You speak some sense Wazzu, and we agree to your proposal. Establishing some things before we go on would help smooth over everyone's day not to mention having OOC knowledge of everyone's fleet capabilities would help avoid misunderstandings and disputes.
What does everyone else say?

I think that Wazzu's proposal should be a general guideline used in any War RP, since its his Idea I propose that he write up something in detail about it and post in a new topic this idea, it might get stickied and cause alot less grief in future War RPs.

(OOC:


It wasn't unopposed bombardment, Comrade. The Ground defence cannons shoot back you know...but please check my recent post on how difficult Ground Defence cannons are to destroy.

I'll give you a short run down.

All right, let's see and I'll show where they lead.


-Built into geographical features

Yeah, like mountains. Two points on that:

Ground-based antiorbital gun emplacements have a firing arc limited to LESS than the hemisphere they are built. You cannot fire at something in the martian equator. Or be fired at from the martian equator, of course.

Guns built behind a mountain CANNOT fire through that mountain, thus further limiting their firing arc. So if they can fire something, fire can be returned.


-Massive ECM

In my post, I said the ships pinpointed the location. Simple geometry. They have not used any kind of sensors for shooting there. They shoot at a point, not against a target. The gun doesn't move. You haven't declared that. Actually you have declared their absolute immobility.


-Heavy Shielding(VC Shields aren't plausible for space ships but are for ground defences)

Well. Then you can look at it his way: if I cannot see the gun because it is behind a mountain, I am shooting at the mountain. Eventually it will fall over your gun, burying it. Shields or not, it is out of commision for good.


so yeah...thats what it was so difficult, Also, you guys think that these things fire in a straight line, they actually fire in a conical arc.

Of course, but remember this simple rule of thumb: if you can fire on, you can be fired at. You don't have projectiles that turn corners. And antiorbital guns don't use parabolic firing.

Your "smart moves" to protect your guns can be (and have been) turned against you.
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IC:

I will add a detail to my attacking post. I am radiating any acquired antiorbital emplacement coordinates on open channels, so ANYONE with parabolic firing capabilities OR a Line-of-Sight on them can return fire, effectively double-acting as artillery spotter. In this kind of battle, this information is useful to any part of "my" side.

Also, even though you addressed my post, you:

-haven't posted losses, and,
-have failed to state a specific counterattack.

And I'd like to remind you that the Yamato gun's destructive effects are those of a small tacnuke, without the radiation and the EMP, but with the full explosive and thermal effects.

And I am firing eight of them every 15 minutes, three at your guns and five against whatever you have in the Hellas Basin Sea area.

(OOC:

I don't like Wazzu's attitude as the "Cardboard Avenger", but his suggestions make sense.
Besides, I have made two "real" RP posts (one for moving the ships, and one for attacking), and then been placed seriously out of sync with the general RPing. Of course, repeating the whole RP makes several surprise moves lose their valuable "surprise element". On both sides.

And I agree that VC is quite eager to say "it never happened". He has ignored several critical posts (the "dimensional shift is blocked" is the most recent), and discovered he had taken a bite bigger that he can gulp.

And on "my" side, there has been people so engrossed in their (brilliant, I reckon) literary RPing, that they really forgot to state losses, or too grossly minimized them. I haven't posted any losses at all because I haven't been attacked. The "automatically counterattack" is not detailed enough for me to make an accurate assessment.

((Reasons for disliking the CA? :) Well, he made my fearsome, 7km long, 87.5 billion BattleCruisers into not-so-fearsome, 2.4km long, 87.5 billion BattleCruisers. And I have 26 of them.

Note to Wazzu: As this is a Martian RP, I am using the Colony puppet, but the commited forces are the Metropolitan stationed Colonial Fleet. They are paid from Earth, not from the Colony for now. When the colony can afford to maintain them, they will be transferred automatically. If you make calculations based on any country statistic, look DarkSith, not the Mars Colony.))
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whoops removed.

TY, all I need is number of vessels of each length, just as I posted my own above. All the extra stuff just gets in the way.

So far, I have stuff for Sunset, Bajon, and DarkSith (and myself of course). So if you want a comparison, you need to give me just those details.

Length a thats a problem wazzu I tend to think of them in function not Length I'll erm get back to you with that. (Curse you now I'll have to go look it up on BFG.)

all I need is number of vessels of each length, just as I posted my own above.... So if you want a comparison, you need to give me just those details.

Available currently:
50 CARMs (20 meters in length)
1 Herculaneum (About 35 meters)
Lots of rocks to puch around (variable size)

We have a question to the Farseer Council of Tor Yvresse. Are you interested in our support in this incoming war?. The only reason that keep us fighting around Mars is to back you up.

Supreme ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

Indeed we thank Aelosi for their aid in this, we are grateful but if you wish to withdraw it would be understood you have already aided greatly in taking down the Imperium's Vessel.

Farseer Council

((Okay I got bored of looking for the official stuats and to be honest I think GW's ships are a bit big anyway so here goes))

60 Picket ships 150-155 Metres Long.
40 Cruisers 201 Metres Long
16 Carriers 400 Metres Long (gotta fit dem fighters in somehow)
4 Flagships 230 Metres Long

5 Helios standard stats.

Outcast Fleet, see ship types, already posted.

The bad RP has been multiway.

I missed pages 4-10, but this is what I have noticed.

Non-VC people are generally not taking losses.

VC people are generally ignoring or completely skipping over entire posts, or portions of posts that are inconvenient.

Neither side is entirely at fault.

I think we can still do this if we:

1: Make some ground rules
2: Make seperate IC and OOC threads (AFTER the ground rules).
3: Start from the begining.
4: ALL post our TOTAL fleet numbers/sizes (and perhaps a few, simple, short stats) and locations BEFORE combat begins.

I agree...I know I missed some posts but Ive been getting busy for work, Tannelorn(My Brother) has basically been giving me the jist of whats going on.

I think the reason it really stopped functioning properly was because there are too many people participating on one post, it got confusing for me because I could only come around and take a look every half hour or so.

If we were to break the individual battles up between the players and put them in different threads, that may help for easing confusion. I gm Role Playing games all the time, I think with the amount of people on this single post makes things really difficult. Its like when you're trying to Gm a game involving 8 people...everyone keeps trying to say stuff and the you start missing things...or something.

Hard to explain, but Im willing to start the war up at a later date...cause Im swamped at home right now.

Anyway...My original non-destroyed fleet had


Each of the 4 State Fleets have

-1 Battleship, 10 Heavy Cruisers, 10 Cruisers, 15 Destroyers, 22 Frigates, 2 Supply Ships

Each of the 5 Overlords fleets

-1 Battle Cruiser, 5 Heavy Cruisers, 10 Cruisers, 10 Destroyers, 32 Frigates, 2 supply ships.

I chose instead now to have 9 fleets of 60 ships to make it an even 500 ships. I dont think length of a space ship really matters...nor the weapons or toughness. Its Role Play...its all about how cool you imagine the battle to be and how you play the game.

My Ships are equipped with High tech projectile weaponry, which will be on par with Energy weapons, Missiles and hordes of weak but plentiful point defence drones. My Fleet doesn't use shields but are real tough. They use alot of really powerful ECM to prevent people from getting target locks on the ships instead of protecting them with shields. The Philosophy is "If they cant see you, they cant hurt you"

My Fleet excels at Lightning warfare, appearing out of no where and striking with extreme force and then fading away into the shadows. They aren't the bravest but they have conviction...they'll fight well when they have the moral high ground, which, thanks to a top knotch propaganda corps, is all the time. My fleet, like the Land Defence force, has differing training between the Overlords fleets, but the State fleets have the best training of any in the Vascilian League.

The AF Fleet uses the new and highly experimental form of travel known as "Super Illuminous Transit" the system is brand new and the results of its use are unknown. But theoretically it can be used to travel to anypoint in the universe in the blink of an eye...theoretically anyway.

So yeah...theres a run down on the AF Fleet, Tech Wankers beware...Im incredibly vague when it comes to weapons and Counter Measures.

OOC: I would suggest posting more details as requested. Wazzu was quite reasonable, please provide the pre-start details, not new details.

MNN News Business update

Headline news:

While most business across Mars experienced a dip in profits this week, due mostly to the current orbital war, MangalaCorp salvage division shocked the market by announcing a 550% increase in profits, with more expected to follow.

MangalaCorp has come under criticism in the past due to it's contoversial practice of "battlefield retrieval." It's Vulture class salvage corvettes have been known to begin tearing apart a ship while it is still under enemy fire.

"Our sucess is attributable mostly to our revolutionary profit model," said a company spokesman today. "We are required by Mangalan law to help for free any injured servicemen we find of course, but despite that we are able to collect a series of payments anyway. We first strip a ship of any useful technology and sell it to the highest bidder (frequently the Mangalan government) after that we sell the actual pieces of the ship to the highest bidder, or charge a return fee to the ship's government. In addition to this, we scrap and recyle all the bits and pieces we find. Finally, we charge the orbital traffic control programs fees for cleaning up orbital space junk. It's really quite brilliant."

Despite criticism and claims from other world leaders accusing MangalaCorp of extortion and piracy, the company is protected under several layers of Mangalan law. Rumors that this is due at least in part to MangalaCorp being one of the biggest political campaign donors in Mangala is unclear. The Voice of the Council declined to comment and referred the matter to a department we hadn't heard of, and later found out didn't exist. Mangalan government officials said there were no plans for a Ministry of MYOB in the works.

MangalaCorp issued a press release today announcing dozens of temporary job openings for space-tug pilots, experienced salvagers, workers experienced in EVA work, and a variety of other jobs.

In other buisiness news StarSparrow Fleetsystems today annouced that they were planning an entirly new series of fighters for the Mangalan Military. Despite an increase in spending, the company announced an "in-house" technical innovation was the impetus behind the planned new design. "Despite our lack of any serious research program in several of the areas where we plan to improve our capabilities, we developed new techonologies completly without external help," a spokesman said. This news overshadowed the otherwise notable transfer of over $800,000,000 out of corporate accounts to an unknown bank.