NationStates Jolt Archive

Like the new ranking system idea too. More fair to those that really got screwed by a few bad games, like Quohog.

Like the new ranking system idea too. More fair to those that really got screwed by one blowout loss, like Tanah Burung in WC6.

Maelstrom announces retirement
Mickelson to return

Lemmington

Following the Lemmings' second-round elimination from World Cup 8 at the hands of Timway, national darling Lana Maelstrom has announced her retirement from international play. "I'll stick around the league a couple more season, 'til me current contract runs out, but I'm gettin' too old for this game," said the two-time team captain. "Me knees ain't wot they used t'be, an' the last thing I'd want is a bad case of KJB."

Speculation has already begun that Maelstrom may return as a Coach with the World Cup 9 squad; though rumors have also surfaced of a future for the outspoken midfielder in broadcasting. Though some have suggested that her virulent Lowlands accent might be a detriment to such a career, others have pointed out that the late, lamented Gil Lemson, previous Dean of Lemmitanian sports, never rid himself of a similar accent, and was quite successful despite it.

In other team news, Mick Mickelson has been retained once again to coach the Lemmings in their world title bid; though a poor game in the second round saw a quick exit for the squad in 8, Mickelson's talents were highlighted by a 9-win run through the qualifiers, the best record of any team this Cup.

I propose that the WCC meet sometime soon to decide the host of WC 9.

OMG, TBF hafd a good idea! The world is ending, the world is ending!!!

Since 8 is going smoothly, I vote Bed and Ogle for 9. 8)

Joe Lally of Fugazi is a good start :wink:

Dude, you gave away who Joe Lally is. Now you'll have to be killed.

Eh, even now I bet his identity is still a mystery, even with the band whom he owes allegiance to being revealed an'all.

Has TnUI created a WC 10 sign up yet? (don't want to miss it like I almost did this one)

Has TnUI created a WC 10 sign up yet? (don't want to miss it like I almost did this one)

Uh, I think we should wait till WC 8 begins drawing near to it's end before we start looking at the first double-digit WC.

I believe standard protocol is that when one WC starts, the signups for the next start at the same time. So look for the start of WC9 (which should be about a week from now) -- that's about when WC10 signups will begin.

I want Zombimeecia IN!

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Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
** Haraki (22) 4 3 1 0 10 3 +7 10
** Timway (31) 4 3 1 0 10 3 +7 10
** Liverpool England (28) 4 3 1 0 7 2 +5 10
** Runaway Moose (4) 4 3 1 0 6 2 +4 10
** Bedistan (5) 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 9
** Oddslavo (35) 4 3 0 1 6 3 +3 9
** Europa Brittania (28) 4 2 2 0 9 7 +2 8
** Busby (14) 4 2 1 1 11 6 +5 7
** Ravenspire (29) 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
** Oglethorpia (23) 4 2 1 1 6 5 +1 7
11 Giant Zucchini (21) 4 2 0 2 7 8 -1 6
12 Lemmitania (20) 4 2 0 2 4 9 -5 6
13 The Belmore Family (15) 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
13 Halfassedstates (8) 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
15 Errinundera (1) 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
16 Svecia (2) 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
17 Gilmeecia (46) 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
18 Audioslavia (13) 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
19 Ariddia (6) 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
20 Gesamtkuntswerk (38) 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
21 Snub Nose 38 (10) 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
22 Dennisov (18) 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
23 Commerce Heights (54) 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
24 Spaam (3) 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
25 Squornshelous (12) 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
26 Antaeus Rising (53) 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
27 Bullonien (65) 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
28 Kingsford (30) 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
29 One Red Dot (16) 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
30 The Lowland Clans (34) 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
31 Demonic Beings (47) 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
32 Jacktazea (50) 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1
[/code:1:27fc240325]

(Calculated using TnUI's previous table and using the Busby 3 Halfassed 2 scoreline)

With regards to Zombimeecia - they can play - so long as I don't have to play therm!!
I ain't got that many players!!!!

Like the new ranking system idea too. More fair to those that really got screwed by a few bad games, like Quohog.

Like the new ranking system idea too. More fair to those that really got screwed by one blowout loss, like Tanah Burung in WC6.

Hey, TB, we can get together for a pity party! That will make us feel better.

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Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
** Haraki (22) 4 3 1 0 10 3 +7 10
** Timway (31) 4 3 1 0 10 3 +7 10
** Liverpool England (28) 4 3 1 0 7 2 +5 10
** Runaway Moose (4) 4 3 1 0 6 2 +4 10
** Bedistan (5) 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 9
** Oddslavo (35) 4 3 0 1 6 3 +3 9
** Europa Brittania (28) 4 2 2 0 9 7 +2 8
** Busby (14) 4 2 1 1 11 6 +5 7
** Ravenspire (29) 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
** Oglethorpia (23) 4 2 1 1 6 5 +1 7
11 Giant Zucchini (21) 4 2 0 2 7 8 -1 6
12 Lemmitania (20) 4 2 0 2 4 9 -5 6
13 The Belmore Family (15) 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
13 Halfassedstates (8) 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
15 Errinundera (1) 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
16 Svecia (2) 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
17 Gilmeecia (46) 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
18 Audioslavia (13) 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
19 Ariddia (6) 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
20 Gesamtkuntswerk (38) 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
21 Snub Nose 38 (10) 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
22 Dennisov (18) 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
23 Commerce Heights (54) 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
24 Spaam (3) 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
25 Squornshelous (12) 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
26 Antaeus Rising (53) 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
27 Bullonien (65) 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
28 Kingsford (30) 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
29 One Red Dot (16) 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
30 The Lowland Clans (34) 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
31 Demonic Beings (47) 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
32 Jacktazea (50) 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1
[/code:1:3e5df054ec]

(Calculated using TnUI's previous table and using the Busby 3 Halfassed 2 scoreline)

With regards to Zombimeecia - they can play - so long as I don't have to play therm!!
I ain't got that many players!!!!

EB's ranking is 32. I'm 28.

I want Zombimeecia IN!

Zombimeecia happy to play friendly against Aquilla. What flavor brains you have?

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Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
** Haraki (22) 4 3 1 0 10 3 +7 10
** Timway (31) 4 3 1 0 10 3 +7 10
** Liverpool England (28) 4 3 1 0 7 2 +5 10
** Runaway Moose (4) 4 3 1 0 6 2 +4 10
** Bedistan (5) 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 9
** Oddslavo (35) 4 3 0 1 6 3 +3 9
** Europa Brittania (32) 4 2 2 0 9 7 +2 8
** Busby (14) 4 2 1 1 11 6 +5 7
** Ravenspire (29) 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
** Oglethorpia (23) 4 2 1 1 6 5 +1 7
11 Giant Zucchini (21) 4 2 0 2 7 8 -1 6
12 Lemmitania (20) 4 2 0 2 4 9 -5 6
13 The Belmore Family (15) 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
13 Halfassedstates (8) 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
15 Errinundera (1) 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
16 Svecia (2) 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
17 Gilmeecia (46) 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
18 Audioslavia (13) 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
19 Ariddia (6) 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
20 Gesamtkuntswerk (38) 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
21 Snub Nose 38 (10) 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
22 Dennisov (18) 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
23 Commerce Heights (54) 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
24 Spaam (3) 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
25 Squornshelous (12) 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
26 Antaeus Rising (53) 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
27 Bullonien (65) 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
28 Kingsford (30) 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
29 One Red Dot (16) 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
30 The Lowland Clans (34) 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
31 Demonic Beings (47) 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
32 Jacktazea (50) 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1
[/code:1:88c57cf18f]

(Calculated using TnUI's previous table and using the Busby 3 Halfassed 2 scoreline)

With regards to Zombimeecia - they can play - so long as I don't have to play therm!!
I ain't got that many players!!!!

EB's ranking is 32. I'm 28.
Sorry - just copied TnUI's table
Now sorted.

if there's anymore space left in WCIX, then add in One Blue Dot. The alter-ego nation of One Red Dot will be happy to be play in the WC.

Like the new ranking system idea too. More fair to those that really got screwed by a few bad games, like Quohog.

Like the new ranking system idea too. More fair to those that really got screwed by one blowout loss, like Tanah Burung in WC6.

Hey, TB, we can get together for a pity party! That will make us feel better.

Hey, i just organized a whole pity party tournament. I'm just sorry i closed the entries before you replied to the invitation! (Actually it was pretty good, some virtuoso role-playing by Warnocks Wizards, Nikea and a few others. And it was a good chance to test a RP bonus system -- will report back on that later.)

However, very happy to join you for a pity party. I'll bring the tea and crumpets.

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Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
Haraki 4 3 1 0 10 3 +7 10
Timway 4 3 1 0 10 3 +7 10
Liverpool England 4 3 1 0 7 2 +5 10
Runaway Moose 4 3 1 0 6 2 +4 10
Bedistan 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 9
Oddslavo 4 3 0 1 6 3 +3 9
Europa Brittania 4 2 2 0 9 7 +2 8
Busby 4 2 1 1 11 6 +5 7
Ravenspire 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
Oglethorpia 4 2 1 1 6 5 +1 7
Giant Zucchini 4 2 0 2 7 8 -1 6
Lemmitania 4 2 0 2 4 9 -5 6
The Belmore Family 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
Halfassedstates 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
Errinundera 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
Svecia 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
Gilmeecia 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
Audioslavia 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
Ariddia 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
Gesamtkuntswerk 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
Snub Nose 38 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
Dennisov 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
Commerce Heights 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
Spaam 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
Squornshelous 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
Antaeus Rising 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
Bullonien 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
Kingsford 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
One Red Dot 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
The Lowland Clans 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
Demonic Beings 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
Jacktazea 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1
[/code:1:e1bd4342cb]

Gee up! Are we too late to join?
I hope not. I just happen to love football.

Cosmo Kramer, President of Kramerica

[quote="Total n Utter Insanity"]...
Hosting Bids
...
15 Clearwater
...
11 Clearwater

[76]
...[quote]

So, total nations (including would-be hosts) is 75. if you add in -Kramerica-, that makes 76 officially.

[quote="Total n Utter Insanity"]...
Hosting Bids
...
15 Clearwater
...
11 Clearwater

[76]
...[quote]

So, total nations (including would-be hosts) is 75. if you add in -Kramerica-, that makes 76 officially.
The forum's going mad. On the last posted bit it said One Blue Dot!!!

The forum's going mad. On the last posted bit it said One Blue Dot!!!

Well, if it was about an hour old, that would be right :P

Liverpool England stadiums, World Cup nine
Bede National Soccer Park
Home of: Bede City
Location: Bede, LE
Cap: usually 100000
Special Facilities: Stadium can be expanded to fit up to 400, 000 people
Avg Weather: 20'C to 39'C
Ticket Prices: for regualr seats, L£30 to L£2000 for expanded areas, L£192 to L£3400

Talbott Springs
Home of: (just finished construction, will not be used by a team until after WC8)
Location: Talbott, LE
Cap: usually 36000
Special Facilities: Spectators can leave the match at any time and go to the nearby hot springs FREE (provided you have match tickets) to soak yourself and still watch the match on a 36" TV.
Avg Weather: 20'C to 35'C
Ticket Prices: at match throughout: L£65 to L£2500, match plus hot springs L£2501 to L£3000

Pardbo Area
Home of: (not a home ground. Built specially for WC9, after which will be used for other sports)
Location: 15 miles southwest of Pardbo Train Station
Cap: 94003
Avg Weather: 20'C to 36'C
Ticket Prices: L£200 to L£3000

National Stadium, CCL
Cap: 100450
Avg Temp: 25'C
Ticket Prices: L£300 to L£30000 (L£1=US$1.75)

Desert Stadium, Orean
Home of: Orean Utd
Cap: 94644
Avg Temp: From 15'C to 44'C
Ticket Prices: L£150 to L£25000

Bulldogs Road, Schimpol, Lox Land Island
Home of: Schimpol Bulldogs
Cap: 98440
Special Facilities: Prevents flodding during moonsoon season
Avg Temp: -4'C to 25'C
Ticket Prices: L£150 to L£24000

Folenisa Desert Park, Folenisa
Home of: Folenisa City
Cap: 72005
Avg Temp: 15'C to 42'C
Ticket Prices: L£300 to L£29000

bumpity

DP!!! Aargh!!!

[code:1:4df791760c]
Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
Haraki 5 4 1 0 13 3 +10 13
Liverpool England 5 4 1 0 9 3 +6 13
Bedistan 5 4 0 1 10 4 +6 12
Europa Brittania 5 3 2 0 13 10 +3 11
Timway 5 3 1 1 11 5 +6 10
Runaway Moose 5 3 1 1 7 4 +3 10
Oddslavo 5 3 0 2 9 7 +2 9
Busby 5 2 1 2 11 9 +2 7
Ravenspire 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
Oglethorpia 4 2 1 1 6 5 +1 7
Giant Zucchini 4 2 0 2 7 8 -1 6
Lemmitania 4 2 0 2 4 9 -5 6
The Belmore Family 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
Halfassedstates 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
Errinundera 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
Svecia 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
Gilmeecia 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
Audioslavia 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
Ariddia 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
Gesamtkuntswerk 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
Snub Nose 38 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
Dennisov 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
Commerce Heights 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
Spaam 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
Squornshelous 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
Antaeus Rising 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
Bullonien 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
Kingsford 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
One Red Dot 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
The Lowland Clans 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
Demonic Beings 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
Jacktazea 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1
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well, it's me against Haraki next. This should decide the number 1 ranking.

Whoever wins the next two games will be ranked number 1.

Whoever wins the next two games will be ranked number 1.
just noticed this. mathematically correct...

Are the WCC meeting this weekend?

Has TnUI created a WC 10 sign up yet? (don't want to miss it like I almost did this one)

Uh, I think we should wait till WC 8 begins drawing near to it's end before we start looking at the first double-digit WC.

I agree, but I know that this thread was created during the last days of WC 7 so. . .

Currently, the final looks like this:
Liverpool England (beat Haraki 2-1 on pens 1-1 AET) vs. Bedistan or Europa Brittania

If the three-way bid gets selected, it will be the

-First ever three way hosting in the Cup
-First cup to be hosted by a previous-cup Final-ist
-Last cup with a single digit (in any case)

Similarly, if Bedistan defeated Europa Brittania, they will become the only host to reach the finals of their own Cup. Did they make it? Find out later, in the WC8 thread. :P

Similarly, if Bedistan defeated Europa Brittania, they will become the only host to reach the finals of their own Cup. Did they make it? Find out later, in the WC8 thread. :P

BTW if that happens Ogle will make the score right? I hope I draw you.... I've had plenty of luck against higher-ranked teams

(Errinundera, WC8 Rd1; Squornshelous, Rd 1; Ariddia, Rd1; The Belmore Family, Rd of 16; Runaway Moose, QF; Haraki SF.)

BTW if that happens Ogle will make the score right?

Yes. Throughout this Cup, Ogle has generated all results for my matches and I have generated his. Originally we were going to get a third party to do both, but that took too long and we wanted to get started. ;)

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Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
**Liverpool England 6 5 1 0 10 4 +6 16
**Haraki 6 4 1 1 14 4 +10 13
**Bedistan 5 4 0 1 10 4 +6 12
**Europa Brittania 5 3 2 0 13 10 +3 11
05Timway 5 3 1 1 11 5 +6 10
06Runaway Moose 5 3 1 1 7 4 +3 10
07Oddslavo 5 3 0 2 9 7 +2 9
08Busby 5 2 1 2 11 9 +2 7
09Ravenspire 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
10Oglethorpia 4 2 1 1 6 5 +1 7
11Giant Zucchini 4 2 0 2 7 8 -1 6
12Lemmitania 4 2 0 2 4 9 -5 6
13The Belmore Family 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
14Halfassedstates 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
15Errinundera 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
16Svecia 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
17Gilmeecia 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
18Audioslavia 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
19Ariddia 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
20Gesamtkuntswerk 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
21Snub Nose 38 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
22Dennisov 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
23Commerce Heights 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
24Spaam 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
25Squornshelous 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
26Antaeus Rising 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
27Bullonien 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
28Kingsford 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
29One Red Dot 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
30The Lowland Clans 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
31Demonic Beings 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
32Jacktazea 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1
[/code:1:41d19f64c6]

76 have signed up. If it is the 3-way-bid that makes it, we would need 78, a dual-bid, 77.

World Cup 8 - Top 32 Rankings

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World Cup 8 - Top 32 Rankings

Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
** Liverpool England 6 5 1 0 10 4 +6 16
** Haraki 6 4 1 1 14 4 +10 13
** Bedistan 5 4 0 1 10 4 +6 12
** Europa Brittania 5 3 2 0 13 10 +3 11
5 Timway 5 3 1 1 11 5 +6 10
6 Runaway Moose 5 3 1 1 7 4 +3 10
7 Oddslavo 5 3 0 2 9 7 +2 9
8 Busby 5 2 1 2 11 9 +2 7
9 Ravenspire 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
10 Oglethorpia 4 2 1 1 6 5 +1 7
11 Giant Zucchini 4 2 0 2 7 8 -1 6
12 Lemmitania 4 2 0 2 4 9 -5 6
13 The Belmore Family 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
14 Halfassedstates 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
15 Errinundera 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
16 Svecia 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
17 Gilmeecia 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
18 Audioslavia 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
19 Ariddia 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
20 Gesamtkuntswerk 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
21 Snub Nose 38 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
22 Dennisov 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
23 Commerce Heights 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
24 Spaam 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
25 Squornshelous 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
26 Antaeus Rising 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
27 Bullonien 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
28 Kingsford 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
29 One Red Dot 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
30 The Lowland Clans 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
31 Demonic Beings 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
32 Jacktazea 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1

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No data changes, just some orginazational rearrangement.

That looks much neater, but you'll need one more space before Played.
Post no. 800!

76 have signed up. If it is the 3-way-bid that makes it, we would need 78, a dual-bid, 77.

Wrong way round. The co-hosts are included among the 76. Therefore we'd need 73 qualifying spots if KP/LE/BF win and 74 otherwise.

In which case, I propose the champions of WC8 qualify by right for WC9 if the 3-way bid wins, leaving 72 teams to qualify. A straightforward system of twelve groups of six can then operate, with the top two qualifying, and the top eight third-placed sides entering the playoffs for the remaining four places.

76 have signed up. If it is the 3-way-bid that makes it, we would need 78, a dual-bid, 77.

Wrong way round. The co-hosts are included among the 76. Therefore we'd need 73 qualifying spots if KP/LE/BF win and 74 otherwise.

In which case, I propose the champions of WC8 qualify by right for WC9 if the 3-way bid wins, leaving 72 teams to qualify. A straightforward system of twelve groups of six can then operate, with the top two qualifying, and the top eight third-placed sides entering the playoffs for the remaining four places.
KP, let me highlight a few things.
1. I meant no. of teams including the hosts.
2. What if I win World Cup 8?

And 3, I think should Bedistan win WC8 (touchwood) they should still go through the Qualifiers.

And 3, I think should Bedistan win WC8 (touchwood) they should still go through the Qualifiers.

I agree with that. We've got the tradition going now that only the hosts auto-qualify, and I think we should keep it that way.

I just hope the Hawks do better this time than last time ... Even though they can only get 4th at the lowest now.

And no more auto-qualification for the peoples? Damn ...

And 3, I think should Bedistan win WC8 (touchwood) they should still go through the Qualifiers.

I agree with that. We've got the tradition going now that only the hosts auto-qualify, and I think we should keep it that way.

we used to allow up to the hosts and chamipons and next few ranked nations to quto-qualify, but that was scraped later and so now, only hosts qualify.

i dun think champions should auto-qualify, if they are truly champions and the score generator gods are favourable towards you, the champion would have no problem qualifying. AND it also cleards up how many qualifying teams there should be. right now we have so many problems determining how many nations can join and whether we should have 2 or 3 hosts.



also, btw, the forums are not mad/crazy, i did have a post under one blue dot, but then i changed it to ORD.

And 3, I think should Bedistan win WC8 (touchwood) they should still go through the Qualifiers.

I agree with that. We've got the tradition going now that only the hosts auto-qualify, and I think we should keep it that way.

we used to allow up to the hosts and chamipons and next few ranked nations to quto-qualify, but that was scraped later and so now, only hosts qualify.

I know. I've been here since WC5. ;) What I'm saying is, now that we have this going (which I think is more in line with the real world anyway, though I'm really not certain), we should keep it this way.

What I'm saying is, now that we have this going (which I think is more in line with the real world anyway, though I'm really not certain), we should keep it this way.

It is in line with the real world... Brazil will have to qualify for the 2006 World Cup, the first holders to do so. (Ironically enough, this meant Germany, as hosts, would auto-qualify and Brazil would not regardless of the result.)

Tradition is worth sticking to... ;) was just trying to suggest a useful way of getting round the problem of 73 being a prime number...

right now, there are 76 teams signed up. that makes either 74 (2 hosts) or 73 (3 hosts) teams playing in qualifiers. i suggest:

if 2 hosts:
15G*5=75. top 2/grp = 30. 30+2 hosts=32. (total 77)

OR

if 3 hosts, with one of the following:
15G*5=75. qualifier grp champ + top 14 of 2nd-placers = 29. 29+3 hosts=32. (total 78)
16G*5=80. qualifier grp champ + top 13 of 2nd-placers = 29. 29+3 hosts=32. (total 83)
19G*4=76. qualifier grp champ + top 10 of 2nd-placers = 29. 29+3 hosts=32. (total 79)
20G*4=80. qualifier grp champ + top 9 of 2nd-placers = 29. 29+3 hosts=32. (total 83)

How about?
15G*5=75. qualifier grp champ(15) + top 28 other teams in a two legged play-off with the winners going through.

But really I need to wait untill Monday to see who gets host. Any odds from anyone?

How about?
15G*5=75. qualifier grp champ(15) + top 28 other teams in a two legged play-off with the winners going through.

But really I need to wait untill Monday to see who gets host. Any odds from anyone?

Eh, sure, what the hell?

Kaze Progressa, The Belmore Family and Liverpool England: 7-4
Ravenspire & Europa Brittania: 2-1
Pure Evil & Aquilla: 250-1

right now, there are 76 teams signed up. that makes either 74 (2 hosts) or 73 (3 hosts) teams playing in qualifiers. i suggest:

if 2 hosts:
15G*5=75. top 2/grp = 30. 30+2 hosts=32. (total 77)

OR

if 3 hosts, with one of the following:
15G*5=75. qualifier grp champ + top 14 of 2nd-placers = 29. 29+3 hosts=32. (total 78)
16G*5=80. qualifier grp champ + top 13 of 2nd-placers = 29. 29+3 hosts=32. (total 83)
19G*4=76. qualifier grp champ + top 10 of 2nd-placers = 29. 29+3 hosts=32. (total 79)
20G*4=80. qualifier grp champ + top 9 of 2nd-placers = 29. 29+3 hosts=32. (total 83)

ORD's 20G*4 might work, but I fear it might be too short.

More radical proposal: Based on presence of 77 teams, minus three co-hosts=74. 6G*9, 2G*10. Playing each other once, not twice, to save time. Top three + fourth-placed sides from groups of 10 + winners of playoffs between other fourth-placed sides = 24+2+3=29+3 hosts=32.

Ow, my head hurts. And i've been demoted to Senator, what happened there? Anyways, i'm sure whoever hosts will pick something fair.

World Cup 8 - Top 32 Rankings

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World Cup 8 - Top 32 Rankings

Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
** Liverpool England 6 5 1 0 10 4 +6 16
** Haraki 6 4 1 1 14 4 +10 13
** Bedistan 5 4 0 1 10 4 +6 12
** Europa Brittania 5 3 2 0 13 10 +3 11
5 Timway 5 3 1 1 11 5 +6 10
6 Runaway Moose 5 3 1 1 7 4 +3 10
7 Oddslavo 5 3 0 2 9 7 +2 9
8 Busby 5 2 1 2 11 9 +2 7
9 Ravenspire 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
10 Oglethorpia 4 2 1 1 6 5 +1 7
11 Giant Zucchini 4 2 0 2 7 8 -1 6
12 Lemmitania 4 2 0 2 4 9 -5 6
13 The Belmore Family 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
14 Halfassedstates 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
15 Errinundera 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
16 Svecia 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
17 Gilmeecia 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
18 Audioslavia 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
19 Ariddia 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
20 Gesamtkuntswerk 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
21 Snub Nose 38 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
22 Dennisov 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
23 Commerce Heights 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
24 Spaam 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
25 Squornshelous 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
26 Antaeus Rising 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
27 Bullonien 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
28 Kingsford 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
29 One Red Dot 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
30 The Lowland Clans 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
31 Demonic Beings 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
32 Jacktazea 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1

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No data changes, just some orginazational rearrangement.

Just a point, TBF and myself have exactly the same record, and drew when we played in the first round - do we start with the same rank, or is one of us ranked above the other? If so how?

Just a point, TBF and myself have exactly the same record, and drew when we played in the first round - do we start with the same rank, or is one of us ranked above the other? If so how?

I think in that case, you would be tied for #13. A great place to be! :P

hehe - i'm a gk so its my lucky #!!!

National Football Club Scrambles to Find New Players for World Cup 9
February 17, 2015

In a press release today, the Bedistan Department of Sports and Games announced that a record twelve members of the national football club, the Lions, would be retiring after World Cup 8.

"We've made it to the finals," said forward Jeff Whitehurst when questioned about his decision. "I know I'm not likely to experience that again, and a lot of us others probably won't either. And besides, I'm 36. I'd be 40 going into the next cup, and I don't think I can handle it. Time to give some fresh blood a chance."

The following is a list of all the retiring players:

Defenders
18 - Richard Weiss (starter, on team since WC5, age 35)
19 - Laura Johnson (starter, on team since WC5, age 32)
27 - Mary Nelson (starter, on team since WC7, age 26)
33 - Terry Sargent (backup, on team since WC8, age 25)

Midfielders
1 - Ken Sierra (starter, on team since WC5, age 31)
15 - Sally Myers (starter, on team since WC5, age 34)

Forwards
8 - Johnny Lewis (starter, captain, on team since WC5, age 34)
12 - Becky Taft (backup, on team since WC5, age 31)
16 - Jeff Whitehurst (starter, on team since WC5, age 36)
24 - Adam Eckerley (backup, on team since WC6, age 31)
35 - Sonya Tibbetts (backup, on team since WC8, age 29)

Goalkeepers
23 - Olivia Bream (starter, all-Cup team in WC7, on team since WC5, age 33)

Only one starting defender will be staying for WC9 -- Mike Thomas, age 34, the only player to have participated in every single international match since the Bedistani team's inception. WC8 backups Diego Sanchez, Alan Greene, and Tabitha Morgan will likely be on the starting lineup as well.

The midfield retains two of its four starters, and Lisa Young is expected to be brought back up from the bench again. She was a starter in WC5, dropped to the bench in WC6, started in WC7, and was returned to the bench in WC8. Now it looks like she will start once again. WC8 backup Luis Bean of the Graceville Salamanders is likely to be made a starter this time.

Every last one of the team's forwards is retiring -- starters and backups. Therefore, the team will have all new players playing at the front.

Olivia Bream has served as the team's primary goalkeeper from the very beginning, allowing 47 goals in 49 matches as of this writing. She will be replaced by the man who has served as her backup all this time -- Chuck Mitchell, a good keeper in his own right.

Since Johnny Lewis will be leaving the team, the Lions will need a new captain once again. It is expected that veteran of 55 matches Mike Thomas will fill this role.

And to top it all off, team coach Jim Parker is also retiring after the match against Liverpool England. "I've brought the team from nothing to one of the three best in the world. There's nothing more I can do," he says. Rumor has it that former captain and all-Cup player in World Cup 7 Gene Barber may return to be the team's coach.

We will provide all the latest information as this story develops.

I believe it's probably time for the WCC to meet -- the final matches of World Cup 8 will be generated today, and we need to make a decision on WC9 fast.

I believe it's probably time for the WCC to meet -- the final matches of World Cup 8 will be generated today, and we need to make a decision on WC9 fast.
Suddenly wires 1,000,000 into the WCC members bank accounts.

BTW, Nikea recently proposed a new ranking system that I think might have some merit. I don't really think it got enough exposure in the WC8 thread, but what little response there was seems to have been positive. I'll repost it here:

I have a preliminary proposal for a new ranking system. This is all preliminary and can be revised or scrapped depending on response.

I came up with this yesterday, after recalling some World Cup facts. France was ranked tops in the world, yet didn't qualify for the round of 16 in World Cup 2002. Yet they are still ranked number 1 in the world. The Netherlands didn't even make it to Japan and Korea, yet are still number 9. In contrast, as an example, Quahog was ranked number 1 going into World Cup 7; starting in World Cup 8 he was 26th. This 25 rank jump is a bit unrealistic to me. As it stands, any nation that performs significantly well over a long period of time, getting consistent results, can be overtaken for an NS 4 year period by a newcomer team that just bursts onto the scene, and has one good cup.

I am suggesting a points system. This might be hard to implement now, due to the established ranking system already. However, I think it is possible with a bit of calculating, etc. I have come up with a point value system for increasing points:

3 points are added for a win
2 points are added for a draw
1 point is added for a loss
1 point is received per game played
GD is added/subtracted to the point total
Finally, following each world cup, a point total could be added equal to:

(total number of teams [including qualifying]) - (final position + current rank))

For example, say there are 80 teams in qualifying. Timway (using him since he has the last post I saw, first name to come to mind) finishes 4th, lets say. And there are (15*6) + 2 = 92 teams participating. So he would have (92) - (4+31) = 57 points added to his total, plus all the other modifiers (right now, 14 for games played, I don't know the other numbers)

I think that this idea needs major work, but I have a small qualm with the final position = rank system we have now. Consistent, long standing teams should be rewarded for being consistent and being around for awhile.

Any suggestions/comments?

I like the idea myself...

KP, LE, TBF's decision on Qualification

The Belmore Family, Kaze Progressa and Liverpool England Qualify automatically.

Another 78 nations sign up (81 including the 3 (possible) hosts)

They go into 13 groups consisting of 6 teams

The Group Champion qualifies automatically (13 teams)

The person placed 2nd in the group qualifies automatically (13 teams)

The top 6 remaining teams (determined by Points, then Goal Difference, then Goals Scored and then Wins) go into a 2 legged play-off (One home, one away) and the winner on aggregate goes through to the Finals.

BTW, Nikea recently proposed a new ranking system that I think might have some merit. I don't really think it got enough exposure in the WC8 thread, but what little response there was seems to have been positive. I'll repost it here:

I have a preliminary proposal for a new ranking system. This is all preliminary and can be revised or scrapped depending on response.

I came up with this yesterday, after recalling some World Cup facts. France was ranked tops in the world, yet didn't qualify for the round of 16 in World Cup 2002. Yet they are still ranked number 1 in the world. The Netherlands didn't even make it to Japan and Korea, yet are still number 9. In contrast, as an example, Quahog was ranked number 1 going into World Cup 7; starting in World Cup 8 he was 26th. This 25 rank jump is a bit unrealistic to me. As it stands, any nation that performs significantly well over a long period of time, getting consistent results, can be overtaken for an NS 4 year period by a newcomer team that just bursts onto the scene, and has one good cup.

I am suggesting a points system. This might be hard to implement now, due to the established ranking system already. However, I think it is possible with a bit of calculating, etc. I have come up with a point value system for increasing points:

3 points are added for a win
2 points are added for a draw
1 point is added for a loss
1 point is received per game played
GD is added/subtracted to the point total
Finally, following each world cup, a point total could be added equal to:

(total number of teams [including qualifying]) - (final position + current rank))

For example, say there are 80 teams in qualifying. Timway (using him since he has the last post I saw, first name to come to mind) finishes 4th, lets say. And there are (15*6) + 2 = 92 teams participating. So he would have (92) - (4+31) = 57 points added to his total, plus all the other modifiers (right now, 14 for games played, I don't know the other numbers)

I think that this idea needs major work, but I have a small qualm with the final position = rank system we have now. Consistent, long standing teams should be rewarded for being consistent and being around for awhile.

Any suggestions/comments?

I like the idea myself...
Hmm... I'm not sure, why don't we just hold the rankings over 2 cups as I did in The CL?

As a preview, here's what the Nikean Ranking System would look like for the 32 teams that qualified for WC8 (counting only WC8 results):

1. Runaway Moose (141)
*2. Liverpool England (133)
*2. Haraki (133)
4. Svecia (132)
5. Errinundera (124)
5. Halfassedstates (124)
5. Lemmitania (124)
8. The Belmore Family (122)
8. Busby (122)
10. Timway (120)
11. Giant Zucchini (117)
12. Oddslavo (116)
13. Ariddia (115)
13. Ravenspire (115)
15. Snub Nose 38 (114)
*15. Bedistan (114)
17. Spaam (113)
*17. Europa Britannia (113)
19. Squornshelous (110)
20. Dennisov (107)
20. Audioslavia (107)
22. One Red Dot (90)
23. Kingsford (86)
24. The Lowland Clans (82)
25. Oglethorpia (75)
26. Gesamtkuntswerk (73)
27. Gilmeecia (72)
28. Commerce Heights (62)
29. Antaeus Rising (57)
30. Bullonien (56)
31. Demonic Beings (53)
32. Jacktazea (49)

* = subject to change

One thing I see right off the bat (especially looking from my perspective ;)) is that teams that didn't go through qualifying (i.e. hosts) are deprived of a lot of points. For instance, I'm tied for 15th under this system while I'm currently 2nd in the current system. Oglethorpia is 25th here, but 10th under the existing method.

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8. The Belmore Family (122)

I like it 13---->8 :D

What if his ranking system only applied when the cup finals began?

i would like to join <snip>

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Please learn how to use emoticons like a grown-up.

i would like to join <snip>

Access Denied!

Please learn how to use emoticons like a grown-up.
Ahh.... don't be so mean to the happy new kid.

What if his ranking system only applied when the cup finals began?

That doesn't make sense. Your team shouldn't magically get better or worse as the finals begin.

That almost cheats good teams, like taking me from 10th to 25th.

That almost cheats good teams, like taking me from 10th to 25th.

That's happening because as auto-qualifiers, we didn't play as many matches. Thus: fewer points from total matches, fewer wins, fewer draws, and fewer losses. If the hosts of a Cup were given some sort of point compensation, this could be worthwhile... :S

The joint Boa Vista-Sao Jorge soccer team would like to join the World Cup

That almost cheats good teams, like taking me from 10th to 25th.

That's happening because as auto-qualifiers, we didn't play as many matches. Thus: fewer points from total matches, fewer wins, fewer draws, and fewer losses. If the hosts of a Cup were given some sort of point compensation, this could be worthwhile... :S

Yeah, maybe like use the WC7 qualifying for points or something.

I read what you wrote concerning the matter, don't worry 8)

The joint Boa Vista-Sao Jorge soccer team would like to join the World Cup
This guy should be the last one in TnUI.

Yeah, maybe like use the WC7 qualifying for points or something.

Well, in practice, I think all previous Cups would be used, so it might not be so bad in the long run. I just did this as an example.

It couold be worked out as a percentage of possible points, maybe.

Any news from the WCC? And OOI, who are the members of it?

Edit: points-per-game, multiplied by the number of World Cups, might make sense.

But the most realistic (and awkward) solution of all would be a system where the rank of the opposition is implemented, like the real FIFA rankings. So for instance, Endray Island would gain quite a few places for their defeat of Errinundera in WC8 qualifying. However this would be *very* time-consuming to do. Maybe it could just be dated back to the last two or three World Cups? (This mimics the nature of the FIFA rankings.)

Any news from the WCC? And OOI, who are the members of it?

Well, off the top of my head

Aridda
Total n Utter Insanity
Brazillico
Tanah Burung
Kingsford
Spaam
Lemmitania
Audioslavia
Oglethorpia
Bedistan

Defunct members are Al Quds and uh, some others I can't think of.

Any news from the WCC? And OOI, who are the members of it?

Well, off the top of my head

Aridda
Total n Utter Insanity
Brazillico
Tanah Burung
Kingsford
Spaam
Lemmitania
Audioslavia
Oglethorpia
Bedistan

Defunct members are Al Quds and uh, some others I can't think of.

Well, we've probably got a vote from the Lemmings, for us allowing them a stroll in the qualifying. And we've probably lost a vote from Ariddia, because we got a draw against them in their own stadium.

Seriously... those guys will make a good choice. (Let it be us... :D)

I think a meeting is almost impossible to arrange. Generally people send their votes to Ariddia who tallies them and announces when a majority decision is made. I suggest everyone on the WCC who hasn't done so already, telegram Ariddia and cc. the others.

For my ranking idea with as far as the hosts go, in my opinion, hosting shouldn't equate to an automatic top 32 spot. While a lot of work goes into the hosting, it seems like teams who are always just outside the bubble can be jumped over.

For example, if Kaze Progressa wins the hosting bid (no offence to you), he'd jump from ~82 to a top 32 spot. That's a 50 rank jump just by being a host. While hosts do a lot of work, it shouldn't necessarily equate to a top ranking.

Also, the point system might mean that some teams who didn't qualify but still did rather well (eg. If Nation A has 18 points but his two group representatives had 20 and 21 points, while Nation B had 14 points and qualified) would still be rewarded. Ranks shouldn't be based on how easy or difficult your group was either.

The joint Boa Vista-Sao Jorge soccer team would like to join the World Cup
This guy should be the last one in TnUI.

I still say let 5 more in, go with 80 qualifiers. Bigger groups are more interesting, IMO.

Nikea: I agree, I don't deserve to jump 50 places just for helping out LE and BF :D

'Ranks shouldn't be based on how easy or difficult your group was either' <<< hence the system of more points for victories vs better teams. Kaze Progressa beating Ariddia would earn more points than Ariddia beating Kaze Progressa. And if, as happened in WC8 qualifying, the two sides drew, KP would gain more points, because it was a better result for them then for Ariddia, if you get my drift, because Ariddia were expected to destroy KP.

But I don't know quite how this would work...

Kaze: It was just a preliminary system, I still have lots of variables to work out before I make a final proposal, in which would be further taken apart by TnUI and the WCC :p

Something based on rank of opposing team might work. And I'm still debating the idea of negative point values, but I might just nix that idea.

Anyone looking at creating a ranking system might want to take a look at how FIFA do theirs:

http://www.fifa.com/en/rank/procedures.html

Be warned, it's more than a little complicated... :shock:

Belmore's guess's on who will vote where-
Please don't be offended I I say me when you are voting for someone else, or vise versa.

Aridda--Not a clue
Total n Utter Insanity--- R & EB
Brazillico---Isn't he gone?
Tanah Burung---Us
Kingsford---- Us
Spaam--- R&EB
Lemmitania---Us
Audioslavia---R&EB
Oglethorpia---Us(maybe)
Bedistan---Us maybe

Defunct members are Al Quds and uh, some others I can't think of.

Alasdair I Frosticus.

Brazillico---Isn't he gone?

Not fielding a team anymore, but I think he's still participating on the WCC. I could be wrong though.

Bedistan---Us maybe

Right now I'm sitting at about 50/50. My vote will need a bit more deliberation.

Belmore's guess's on who will vote where-
Please don't be offended I I say me when you are voting for someone else, or vise versa.

Aridda--Not a clue
Total n Utter Insanity--- R & EB
Brazillico---Isn't he gone?
Tanah Burung---Us
Kingsford---- Us
Spaam--- R&EB
Lemmitania---Us
Audioslavia---R&EB
Oglethorpia---Us(maybe)
Bedistan---Us maybe

"Hi. I'm John Madder. We're about to start some quality FOOTBALL! ... Come on... FOOTBALL!!. Now we're going to review this list of potential votes for the host.

These countries are projected to vote for The Belmore Family, Liverpool England, and Kaze Progressa, or the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (The nickname goes in reverse order): Tanah Burung, Kingsford, Lemmitania, Oglethorpia, and Bedistan.

These countries are projected to vote for Ravenspire and Europa Brittania: Total n Utter Insanity, Spaam, and Audioslavia.

These countries are the swing votes: Brazillico and Arrida. HEY! Wait a minute, that's no ordinary Arridia, that's some crazy i-less Ariddia! And he's ruining a game of FOOTBALL! ....FOOOTBAAALLLL!"

((screen goes blank, tranquilizers are fired. Transmission ends.))

The joint Boa Vista-Sao Jorge soccer team would like to join the World Cup
This guy should be the last one in TnUI.

I still say let 5 more in, go with 80 qualifiers. Bigger groups are more interesting, IMO.

Damn straight. I hate landing in a group with no one else doing RP. Big groups help prevent this.

Also, it's fun to beat up on the minnows. :wink:

The joint Boa Vista-Sao Jorge soccer team would like to join the World Cup
This guy should be the last one in TnUI.

I still say let 5 more in, go with 80 qualifiers. Bigger groups are more interesting, IMO.

Damn straight. I hate landing in a group with no one else doing RP. Big groups help prevent this.

Also, it's fun to beat up on the minnows. :wink:

Heh.

DOWN WITH BAD RPERS!

I thought I signed up already, but I don't see my name on the list at the front of this post. I signed up before I saw that all this extra stuff was needed to join this World Cup, but I had hoped it wouldn't matter. What would a World Cup be without Svecia? We've participated in every WC except for the first one and have won the third place match twice and only failed to qualify for the group stage, um, never? Hopefully this tournament hasn't already filled up without me because I wouldn't want to miss it. Right now I see we're ranked 16th but hopefully a tournament could make up for it. I don't think we've ever been ranked worse than 22nd.

I thought I signed up already, but I don't see my name on the list at the front of this post.

175 Svecia

;)

So, World Cup 8 is, on the part of Bedistan and I, complete.

World Cup 9's host will be chosen, and yet another Cup begins.

Fun fun fun.

Thumbs up to Bedistan for being an awesome co-host.

"Hi, I'm John Madder, with me is Lee Torso, and we're here to talk to you today about the host of some good games of FOOTBALL!

Today, we're going to review the logo for Kaze Progressa, The Belmore Family, and Liverpool England, or as Lee likes to call it, 'The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.'"

"Not so fast my friend!"

"Lee, I didn't say any opinion for you to object with. You feeling ok?"

"Not really, and I'm gonna tell you why. The logo that The Belmore Family conjured up makes me dizzy. Lets take a look."

http://www.abelmore.com/wc9.GIF

"That's no ordinary logo, that's some crazy eye burning logo!"

"Indeed my friend. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly tried to run for a clear early lead with a logo up the middle, but, as you can see, nothing doing! It was tackled for a loss."

"Lets look at the replay.

http://www.abelmore.com/wc9.GIF

In the middle, right there, you've got a clear run of a 9. But the hole in the 9 is like nothing I've ever seen before! It's got some sort of football inside! I hope the 9 knows it, because if not, it's in for a big suprise!"

"John?"

"I mean, Lee, if you woke up with a big football inside your eye, what would you do?"

"John..."

"I'd probably yell "AAH! THERE'S A FOOTBALL! IN MY EYE! A FOOTBALL!"

"Not so fast my friend, back to the play by play."

"Sorry, I got excited."

"I know."

"Now, to the right of that big nine, it seems like someone has stuck a big Liverpool England Flag. Hey, how'd that penguin get in here?"

"What penguin?"

"Why, that penguin is huge! It's like the size of a person!"

"John, are you ok?"

"I'm gonna get that penguin for ruining a good commentary on FOOTBALL!"

((Madder grabs tranquilizer gun from a guy with a shirt that says "Madder Handler" on it, shoots out the camera, yelling is heard. Transmission ends.))

My thoughts on who the WCC will vote for:

Aridda--Beat them in Round 1, forcing them out. not so sure.
Total n Utter Insanity--- unsure
Brazillico---Awfully inactive
Tanah Burung---Us
Kingsford---- Us
Spaam--- Us
Lemmitania---Us
Audioslavia---R&EB
Oglethorpia---Unsure
Bedistan---Currently, as far as I know (I dont have the TM yet), Le is leading Bedistan 2-0 at HT. Therefore, I dont think so. R/EB.

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Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Liverpool England 7 6 1 0 14 5 +9 19
** Bedistan 7 5 0 2 12 6 +6 15
** Haraki 6 4 1 1 14 5 +9 13
** Europa Brittania 6 3 2 1 11 9 +2 11
5 Timway 5 3 1 1 11 5 +6 10
6 Runaway Moose 5 3 1 1 7 4 +3 10
7 Oddslavo 5 3 0 2 9 7 +2 9
8 Busby 5 2 1 2 11 9 +2 7
9 Ravenspire 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
10 Oglethorpia 4 2 1 1 6 5 +1 7
11 Giant Zucchini 4 2 0 2 7 8 -1 6
12 Lemmitania 4 2 0 2 4 9 -5 6
13 The Belmore Family 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
14 Halfassedstates 4 1 2 1 6 6 0 5
15 Errinundera 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
16 Svecia 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
17 Gilmeecia 4 1 1 2 4 8 -4 4
18 Audioslavia 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
19 Ariddia 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
20 Gesamtkuntswerk 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
21 Snub Nose 38 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
22 Dennisov 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
23 Commerce Heights 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
24 Spaam 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
25 Squornshelous 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
26 Antaeus Rising 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
27 Bullonien 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
28 Kingsford 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
29 One Red Dot 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
30 The Lowland Clans 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
31 Demonic Beings 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
32 Jacktazea 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1
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World Cup 9 roster thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83283

Rank 33 & Below

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Rank 33 & Below (AKA Everyone Else)

Rank P W D L F A GD Pts
33 Dark Outcasts (11) 10 6 1 3 23 15 +8 19
34 Pavesia (39) 10 5 3 2 16 11 +5 18
35 Pure Evil (9) 10 5 3 2 15 11 +4 18
36 Tanah Burung (27) 10 4 5 2 19 13 +6 17
37 Aquilla (45) 10 5 2 3 21 18 +3 17
38 Akbarland (17) 10 5 2 3 13 12 +1 17
39 Keyshona 10 5 2 4 19 20 -1 17
40 Neolithica 10 5 2 3 15 19 -4 17
41 Sliponia (74) 10 4 4 2 17 12 +5 16
42 WNA 10 5 1 4 15 15 0 16
43 God Squad (62) 10 4 3 3 15 11 +4 15
44 Nikea (71) 10 5 0 5 13 16 -3 15
45 Quohog (26) 10 4 3 3 14 14 0 15
46 The Weegies (68) 10 4 2 4 16 16 0 14
47 Voyger 10 4 2 4 17 18 -1 14
48 BlackEagle Corp. 10 4 2 4 14 20 -6 14
49 Total n Utter Insanity (19) 10 3 4 3 16 15 +1 13
50 Yentrofinova 10 4 1 5 11 12 -1 13
51 Alasdair I Frosticus (60) 10 4 1 5 16 17 -1 13
52 Eauz (85) 10 4 1 5 16 18 -2 13
53 LordSquall (42) 10 3 3 4 16 16 0 12
54 Endray-Island 10 4 0 6 19 21 -2 12
55 The Dragonian Empire 10 3 3 4 12 16 -4 12
56 1900s Oglethorpia 10 4 0 6 22 27 -5 12
57 Simba Polo 10 3 3 4 9 16 -7 12
58 Australian Marsupials (127) 10 3 2 5 14 15 -1 11
59 Kaze Progressa (82) 10 2 5 3 11 13 -2 11
60 Sycoes 10 3 2 5 16 20 -4 11
61 Agnosticium 10 3 2 5 19 22 -5 11
62 Ineptia 10 3 2 5 15 21 -6 11
63 Mezitzia (72) 10 3 2 5 9 17 -8 11
64 Slops Pit 10 3 2 5 16 24 -8 11
65 Hell Bovines 10 3 1 6 11 14 -3 10
66 Dead Man (107) 10 3 1 6 17 21 -4 10
67 Sazland (67) 10 2 4 4 8 13 -5 10
68 Jangle Jangle Ridge 10 3 1 6 13 20 -7 10
69 West Ariddia (57) 10 3 1 6 17 25 -8 10
70 Defari 10 2 3 5 11 18 -7 9
71 Chronos Prime 10 3 0 7 12 20 -8 9
72 Parthenon 10 2 3 5 11 20 -9 9
73 Bardai (80) 10 2 3 5 12 21 -9 9
74 East Spaam 10 1 5 4 14 17 -3 8
75 Warnocks Wizards 10 2 2 6 12 19 -7 8
76 Hellfish 10 1 5 4 14 18 -4 8
77 Alhana Catherine (87) 10 2 2 6 16 20 -4 8
78 Zeronia 10 2 2 6 12 20 -8 8
79 Jadonopolos 10 2 2 7 18 27 -9 8
80 Northern Kings (108) 10 1 4 5 9 15 -6 7
81 Rave Shentavo (103) 10 1 4 5 15 21 -6 7
82 Nadaskor 10 2 1 7 11 20 -9 7
83 Coffee Cup 10 2 1 7 8 19 -11 7
84 N S A 10 2 1 7 11 22 -11 7
85 Memeplex 10 2 1 7 11 27 -16 7
86 New Pavesia 10 0 6 4 12 18 -6 6
87 Jekonuam 10 1 3 6 10 17 -7 6
88 Anti-Nazis 10 2 0 8 10 18 -8 6
89 Consumer Engineering 10 2 0 8 8 17 -9 6
90 Zinkoland 10 1 3 7 12 21 -9 6
91 Carasek 10 1 2 7 13 26 -13 5
92 Male 18 10 1 1 8 12 24 -12 4

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Now, there are your rankings. Maybe tomorow i'll match World Cup 9 participating names to their rankings from World Cup 8, to make the job of the World Cup 9 host that much easier.

LE, Bedistan is 2nd. The 3/4 match cannot possibly change that :wink:

LE, Bedistan is 2nd. The 3/4 match cannot possibly change that :wink:If Haraki wins....
Haraki = 16
Bedistan = 15

LE, do you really think the WCC will vote for host based on the results of random-number generation? God help us if the members hold grudges against teams that beat them.

BTW, I've TGed my vote to Ariddia, and TnUI for good measure.

Just to check again, we are signed up yeah?

Giant Zucchini and One Red Dot hereby present our intention to host WCX, if it starts after the 21st of November, 2003, real world time. We have been toying with the idea for a long while, and we have finally decided to put in our joint bid for World Cup 10 (WCX). We hope for the community as well as the committee to give us their fullest support. Thank you. (Yes, it is a bit early but I figured I'd get it done with sooner than later.)

I think I know who is hosting.

Also if we close the signups now you can do my 15*5 plan.

*CLOSED*

WC10 Signup (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83390)

I do not see my team on the ranking list. Am I just missing it or did Clearwater not qualify?

Ravenspire & Europa Brittania-Hosts, is that official?
You know the controvosy last time you guessed.

I do not see my team on the ranking list. Am I just missing it or did Clearwater not qualify?

Correct me if I'm wrong, folks, but that's just a ranking list for people who've been in the WC before. Clearwater, as this is your first outing, you have no preestablished record, ergo, you can't be fairly categorized versus your peers.

^^ the wise man is right ;) That's the WC8 teams, and as you're new you'll have the generic 'newbie ranking', 150 I believe, for stats purposes.

Ravenspire & Europa Brittania-Hosts, is that official?
You know the controvosy last time you guessed.

As TnUI said last time, always wait for Ariddia to say something. As chairman of the WCC, only Ariddia can make it official.

LE, do you really think the WCC will vote for host based on the results of random-number generation? God help us if the members hold grudges against teams that beat them.

I certainly hold no grudges. ;) My vote is based purely on hosting-related reasons. :) BTW, I sent my vote in this morning, and Ariddia has confirmed it.

So the official hosts are.....

I have to say I'm completely lost in this WC! Have the qualifying rounds already happened? Has somebody already won? I haven't been on a lot lately so I ont know what's going on! SOMEBODY HELP!!!! :shock:

I have to say I'm completely lost in this WC! Have the qualifying rounds already happened? Has somebody already won? I haven't been on a lot lately so I ont know what's going on! SOMEBODY HELP!!!! :shock:

World Cup 8 has just finished it looks like, so the qualifying for the next round will start soon. You didn't qualify for World Cup 8, but you will be playing in World Cup 9 with a rank of 39th in NS, which is good for someone who only started last round.

ok so WC9 qualifying hasn't really started yet?

Negative.

Congrats to LE on winning WC8

ok THANX :P

Congrats to LE on winning WC8

Thanks.

So the official hosts are.....

...?

(bump)

(Bump again...)

I'm about 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure, but Ariddia wants to wait another 24 hours, not sure why exactly.

Scuttlebutt

Look Who's Back On The Street !
Sten, Snub Nose 38 Remington Grey

Noticed making the club rounds in Sten last night were Ben and Eileen Dover, past manager and defensive coach of the Snub Nose 38 Hooligans for World Cups 3 through 7. During World Cup 8 they served as consultants to a new management team. It seems the Ministry of Justice and Real Estate has released them from confinement on Elba. We understand they are on probation, and must report to their parole officer every week. A source who would give her name only as "Margaret" led this reporter to believe that their release was requested by the Ministry of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages. We couldn't help but notice that Ben and Eileen were not accompanied by Justin Case, Peeko Von Dropov, or Morris Better - the management team for the Hooligans during World Cup 8.

New Management for the Hooligans
Sten, Snub Nose 38 Mike Easter, aspn

The Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages today released the names of the new managment team that will take the Snub Nose 38 International Football side, the Hooligans, through qualifications for World Cup 9. Sal Manela is the sides new manager. Sal previously managed Remington United in the SNFA League. He will be assisted by Offensive Coach Sally Forth, who comes with Sal from Remington United, and Defensive Coach Ivan Tabytcha, whose contract as manager of the SNFA League Enfield Rifles recently expired . Sal Manela's first move as Manager was to add Ben and Eileen Dover to the managment team as consultants.

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R Name
1 Liverpool England
2 Haraki
3 Bedistan
4 Europa Brittania
5 Timway
6 Runaway Moose
7 Oddslavo
8 Busby
9 Ravenspire
10 Oglethorpia
11 Giant Zucchini
12 Lemmitania
13 The Belmore Family
13 Halfassedstates
15 Errinundera
16 Svecia
17 Gilmeecia
18 Audioslavia
19 Ariddia
20 Gesamtkuntswerk
20 Snub Nose 38
22 Dennisov
23 Commerce Heights
24 Spaam
25 Squornshelous
26 Antaeus Rising
26 Bullonien
28 Kingsford
29 One Red Dot
30 The Lowland Clans
31 Demonic Beings
32 Jacktazea
33 Dark Outcasts
34 Pavesia
35 Pure Evil
36 Aquilla
37 Akbarland
38 Neolithica
39 Tanah Burung
40 Sliponia
41 WNA
42 God Squad
43 Quohog
44 Nikea
45 The Weegies
46 Voyger
47 Keyshona
48 BlackEagle Corporation
49 Total n Utter Insanity
50 Alasdair I Frosticus
51 Yentrofinova
52 Eauz
53 LordSquall
54 Endray-Island
55 The Dragonian Empire
56 1900s Oglethorpia
57 Simba Polo
58 Australian Marsupials
59 Kaze Progressa
60 Agnosticium
61 Sycoes
62 Ineptia
63 Slops Pit
64 Mezitzia
65 Hell Bovines
66 Dead Man
67 Sazland
68 Jangle Jangle Ridge
69 West Ariddia
70 Defari
71 Chronos Prime
72 Bardai
73 Parthenon
74 East Spaam
75 Hellfish
76 Alhana Catherine
77 Warnocks Wizards
78 Jadonopolos
79 Zeronia
80 Rave Shentavo
81 Northern Kings
82 Nadaskor
83 N S A
84 Coffee Cup
85 Memeplex
86 New Pavesia
87 Zinkoland
88 Jekonuam
89 Anti-Nazis
90 Consumer Engineering
91 Carasek
92 Male 18
93 Malundar
94 Lunatic Goofballs
95 Nonexistentcitygrad
96 Melita and Gaulos
97 Christofi
98 Freedomnessity
99 The Republic of Canada
100 South euroland
101 Rhaken Kull
102 GnOoLoCoPeLep
103 Terranos
104 ENRG
105 Dyelli Beybi
106 Tha Machine
107 Davidus Voldemort
108 DePaul
109 Grand master Mark
110 The Promise of Joshua
111 Middleton
112 North Russia
113 New-Persia
114 Fart wars
115 Bizarro
116 Praetorian Rome
117 Intergallactic Hell
118 Crimina
119 Etria
120 Kerla
121 Ribenia
122 Nintendania
123 Zihkav
124 Trafari
125 Katimarie
126 Pablicosta
127 Krieland
128 Yatsumica
129 Estiv
130 Brazillico
131 Chakra
132 Copiosa Scotia
133 Ironchefk
134 Dannland
135 Cobra Cult
136 _AMP
137 Nevershadow
138 Avina
139 Great White Sharks
140 Starving Children
141 Jay Cutter
142 Tiburon
143 Vegemite
144 Nova Polonia
145 Futililia
146 Tintinnabulation
147 La Darien
148 Porvoo
149 Lomina
150 BK_Samurai
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Teams playing in World Cup 9
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R Name
1 Liverpool England
2 Haraki
3 Bedistan
4 Europa Brittania
5 Timway
6 Runaway Moose
7 Oddslavo
8 Busby
9 Ravenspire
10 Oglethorpia
11 Giant Zucchini
12 Lemmitania
13 Halfassedstates
13 The Belmore Family
15 Errinundera
16 Svecia
17 Gilmeecia
18 Audioslavia
19 Ariddia
20 Gesamtkuntswerk
20 Snub Nose 38
22 Dennisov
23 Commerce Heights
24 Spaam
25 Squornshelous
26 Antaeus Rising
26 Bullonien
28 Kingsford
29 One Red Dot
30 The Lowland Clans
31 Demonic Beings
33 Dark Outcasts
35 Pure Evil
36 Aquilla
37 Akbarland
39 Tanah Burung
42 God Squad
43 Quohog
44 Nikea
45 The Weegies
47 Keyshona
49 Total n Utter Insanity
52 Eauz
53 LordSquall
54 Endray-Island
55 The Dragonian Empire
56 1900s Oglethorpia
59 Kaze Progressa
65 Hell Bovines
69 West Ariddia
70 Defari
74 East Spaam
77 Warnocks Wizards
79 Zeronia
87 Zinkoland
89 Anti-Nazis
90 Consumer Engineering
150 Auir II
150 Boa Vista
150 CallMeBernard
150 Clearwater
150 Evisceratomatoes
150 Freedom Country
150 Jezland
150 Kegarna
150 -Kramerica-
150 Kravoli
150 NASTIC 2
150 Offshore
150 One Blue Dot
150 Rejistania
150 Soviet Haaregrad
150 SterlingIce
150 Terranos
150 The Redavic Union
150 Tranquillitis
150 Wildthings Realm
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I'm about 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure, but Ariddia wants to wait another 24 hours, not sure why exactly.
How much longer must the torture last?

4 hours, till the 24 hours have past.

Kaze Progressa was a deathly quiet place today, as the populace are resigned to the fact Ravenspire and Europa Brittanica are probably WC9 hosts.

The K200 index of leading shares fell 2.3% as traders sold off companies with an international bias - the KPSE's biggest company, Progressair, saw its shares fall over 4.5%.

4 hours, till the 24 hours have past.

2 hours to go. Tick tock, tick tock.

Blagstaggin' double freakin' post.

Just a thought-- How 'bout if we vote on the WC10 hosts one week into WC9, whenever it starts. I'd even go do far as to propse that we select the WC10 and WC11 hosts at the same time.

What do others think of that?

Just a thought-- How 'bout if we vote on the WC10 hosts one week into WC9, whenever it starts. I'd even go do far as to propse that we select the WC10 and WC11 hosts at the same time.

What do others think of that?

I did think this was a good idea when I first saw it, what was it, a couple of months ago? Anyway, what if the people we decide on do an S&K on us. Best to wait I think. Anyway when I take over the World...I mean the World Cup Committee Leadership, I hope to implement changes that mean if the hosts disappear the tournament will be unaffected. Also I'm gonna bid for World Cup 11.

Just a thought-- How 'bout if we vote on the WC10 hosts one week into WC9, whenever it starts. I'd even go do far as to propse that we select the WC10 and WC11 hosts at the same time.

What do others think of that?

I did think this was a good idea when I first saw it, what was it, a couple of months ago? Anyway, what if the people we decide on do an S&K on us. Best to wait I think. Anyway when I take over the World...I mean the World Cup Committee Leadership, I hope to implement changes that mean if the hosts disappear the tournament will be unaffected. Also I'm gonna bid for World Cup 11.
*Cough**Cough*My Idea*Cough*

Still no word from Arridia

P.S. Myself and Runaway Moose are soon to be putting in a hosting bid for WC10 if I don't get 9 so don't decide to quick.

And the hosts for World Cup 9, by WCC majority vote are...

Ravenspire and Europa Brittania!

Congratulations!

Just a thought-- How 'bout if we vote on the WC10 hosts one week into WC9, whenever it starts. I'd even go do far as to propse that we select the WC10 and WC11 hosts at the same time.

What do others think of that?

I did think this was a good idea when I first saw it, what was it, a couple of months ago?
*Cough**Cough*My Idea*Cough*

Good for you.


P.S. Myself and Runaway Moose are soon to be putting in a hosting bid for WC10 if I don't get 9 so don't decide to quick.
I am here. And in the event that we are not chosen for WC9 host we would like to co host with Runaway Moose.

Hmm...

Could Aquilla and TBF be one and the same? I wouldn't have credited it. Aquilla baby, say it ain't so!

Can The People's Republic of CallMeBernard make a plea for a late entry for the World Cup?

As a member of the Continent of Crystal Palace, inoffensive democracy or not, there is a certain feeling of unresolved business with Mr Warnock.

P.S. Myself and Runaway Moose are soon to be putting in a hosting bid for WC10 if I don't get 9 so don't decide to quick.
I am here. And in the event that we are not chosen for WC9 host we would like to co host with Runaway Moose.

Hmm...

Could Aquilla and TBF be one and the same? I wouldn't have credited it. Aquilla baby, say it ain't so!

It could just be RM bidding twice to increase her chances :)

TnUI - my puppet got your "Violent Violetists" issue. 8)

Can The People's Republic of CallMeBernard make a plea for a late entry for the World Cup?

As a member of the Continent of Crystal Palace, inoffensive democracy or not, there is a certain feeling of unresolved business with Mr Warnock.

Greetings. We believe that sign up for World Cup 9 is closed, so you would be unable to "battle" our esteemed nation on the pitch during this world cup. You could perhaps still sign up for World Cup 10, registration for that is still ongoing. At any rate, thank you for noticing the empire of the Most Holy One. Up the Blades,

Ufhur the Hated
Minister of Sport, Empire of Warnocks Wizards

Ok
I'll have a crack at WC 10
See you there.... hopefully

It could just be RM bidding twice to increase her chances :)

No love, I take offense. Aquilla never said anything to me. TBF asked me about a day or two ago. I don't know if they are the same or different, but I didn't know I'd been put down already until Snub told me (that's my dad for those of you who missed it, and I'm his daughter, not son, and certainly not his older sister :wink: )

zinkoland is in!

Lanky dude hasn't posted since the 6th so the hosts can think about replacing him.

Hokianga is pretty dead too.

Lanky dude & Hokianga replace by CallMeBernard & Zinkoland by order of EB.

Just a thought, I think that if teams are going to say they are putting in a bid to cohost, they should both have to post it... just to confirm.

Lanky dude hasn't posted since the 6th so the hosts can think about replacing him.
What. Lanky Dude is my friend. He should be back on soon.

Just a thought, I think that if teams are going to say they are putting in a bid to cohost, they should both have to post it... just to confirm.

Well I'm talking to EB on IRC aright now, he seems pretty sure.

Lanky dude hasn't posted since the 6th so the hosts can think about replacing him.
What. Lanky Dude is my friend. He should be back on soon.

If he is then get him to post here and I'll kill someone else :wink:

Lanky dude hasn't posted since the 6th so the hosts can think about replacing him.
What. Lanky Dude is my friend. He should be back on soon.

If he is then get him to post here and I'll kill someone else :wink:

*cough* Actually, how about we accept all of them, and go with 80 qualifiers, like I've been saying all along I would? 8) That would leave three slots to be filled. Which is not likely to be a problem.

EB and I are now working on getting things started.

Well.... I'm still waiting for Erri to come back.... I hope he doesn't die on me :cry:

how about we accept all of them, and go with 80 qualifiers

Okay, but if you make one mistake in the tables I'm not gonna let you forget it...ever. Deal?

how about we accept all of them, and go with 80 qualifiers

Okay, but if you make one mistake in the tables I'm not gonna let you forget it...ever. Deal?

Haha...just don't do tables, Ravenspire :wink:

TnUI, I never had to do tables as it was. So at least I did them, albeit with mistakes, but I did them on my own choice all the same.

According to my calculations there should be 1 place left. We wish to show our independance by playing in the WC9.

Very well. It appears we have 80 qualifiers (assuming Sensual Products accepts my offer). I'll need a short time to finish setting up the spreadsheet, and EB to finish the logo and art design; look for a start early next week.

We wish to comment that Belmorian Scandinavia wish to refered to as BES if our name is shortened, not BS

We wish to comment that Belmorian Scandinavia wish to refered to as BES if our name is shortened, not BS 8)

The Borderlands of Snub Nose 38 is making a state visit to Prince "M" of Eastman over the next several days. All Ministers will be in the entourage. The event will be covered by all news media. Things should get back to what passes for normal in Snub Nose 38 by Monday.

Hmm.. *cough* *cough* twiddles her thumbs

No I am not TBF.

No I am not TBF.

Have replied about thios in other thread.

So, all WC7 and WC8 athletes (and commentators and coaches naturally) are cordially invited to the wedding/BBQ/mixed team round robin tournament to be held at the home stadium of Alces Rex in Runaway Moose. Nif and Cannon would be most pleased if you could RSVP ASAP.

The Lemmitanian national team will certainly be there, as will Grant Rockson. Clem and Glick will try to make it if they don't have conflicting contractual obligations.

When exactly does WC9 start?

alright loves, give us a list of everyone who's coming and asterisks next to people who will be playing in the round robin. we'll make up some teams, paying little attention really to who plays what position, sorry. the couple is still deciding if they want to be on the same team or take the same random chance. any thoughts?

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85844&highlight=

When exactly does WC9 start?

If EB doesn't kick it off first, I'll start it tomorrow afternoon (Eastern US time).

Bump for extinction protection

Brazillico would like to sign up for WC9!

Me too! When exactly does WC9 start?

WC90?

oh...