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Well I haven't seen Errie and WC8 is about to start, so by popular demand...

HOSTS:

Ravenspire & Europa Brittania

Teams

9292 Haraki
3123 Oglethorpia
3009 Pure Evil
2990 Freedom Country
2753 Total n Utter Insanity
2520 LordSquall
2174 Squornshelous
1865 The Belmore Family
1465 Spaam
1409 Soviet Haaregrad
1134 Europa Brittania
1104 Ravenspire
992 Aquilla
851 Snub Nose 38
769 Ariddia
751 Zeronia
691 Liverpool England
633 Hell Bovines
622 Tanah Burung
608 Busby
572 The Lowland Clans
507 Errinundera
496 Lemmitania
472 Quohog
446 Keyshona
394 Bedistan
345 Audioslavia
317 The Redavic Union
300 Giant Zucchini
250 Kaze Progressa
234 Kingsford
213 Dark Outcasts
209 Nikea
205 Dennisov
204 Halfassedstates
196 Terranos
186 The Weegies
176 Gesamtkuntswerk
175 Svecia
173 Zinkoland
158 NASTIC 2
140 Commerce Heights
114 One Red Dot
110 Timway
105 Defari
103 Auir II
94 Gilmeecia
81 Runaway Moose
76 Rejistania
61 Kegarna
38 Boa Vista
37 Anti-Nazis
33 God Squad
32 The Dragonian Empire
28 Offshore
25 Akbarland
19 West Ariddia
17 Eauz
17 Antaeus Rising
15 Clearwater
15 CallMeBernard
14 Bullonien
14 Kravoli
13 Wildthings Realm
12 East Spaam
11 Warnocks Wizards
10 SterlingIce
10 -Kramerica-
9 Consumer Engineering
6 Endray-Island
6 Oddslavo
4 Demonic Beings
4 1900s Oglethorpia
2 Tranquillitis
1 Jezland
1 Evisceratomatoes
1 One Blue Dot

[77]

I think I'll give up collecting the sponsorship.

I'll sign up..

And of course I'm in it :P

I'll sign up

"We're in," commented the Acting Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages when asked about World Cup 9, "People wouldn't stand for it if their Hooligans didn't participate."

When asked if he meant the Snub Nose 38 International Football side known as "The Hooligans", or the Cheerleading Squad for them, also known as "The Hooligans" the minister looked confused, stuttered an incoherent response, and wandered away in a daze.

"Both," said his secretary, Beverly. She refused to make any additional comments.

"Oglethorpia will be entering a side for World Cup 9, as well as the 1901 National Team (1900s Oglethorpia.)"

Ben Wright
National Sporting Authority

While our national manager Ugwurz the Furious is furiously preparing for his first World Cup Qualifying campaign, we are also thinking of our football future . Please sign up Warnocks Wizards for WC 9 qualifying. Respectfully,

Globmazh the Mean
Chairman, Warnocks Wizards Football Federation

Bump/I know where I am upto.

We'll be back again once more!

hehe we'll win this time!

we're in again

I'm going for it. Maybe after 8, I'll be in position to threaten for the Cup again in 9... and then screw it up in the Group Stage.

Timway would also like to participate.

God, already? Anyway, I'm in.

God, already? Anyway, I'm in.

World Cup 7 was starting was the WC8 signup thread was put up. That's generally how things are run in the World Cup :wink:

"We will happily participate in your little tournament."

Little? Little? The most prestigious footballing tournament in NS, little?

I say we don't let him in just for being a condesending git.

Count us in!

Little? Little? The most prestigious footballing tournament in NS, little?

I say we don't let him in just for being a condesending git.

OOC: lol, that post was IC of course. I'm not sure how good the Protoss will be at football though.

The rejistanian soccer team would like to participate.

Current rank 15

Played in... WC 5, WC 6, WC 7, WC8.

Name The Belmore Family.

Kaze Progressa, The Belmore Family and Liverpool England wish to put in a 3 way bid.

Methinks either Erri or Ravenspire should put in bids to host it.

EB, World Cup Veterans and Participants in World Cup I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII & VIII will sign up for World Cup IX.


At the time of posting, still not World Champions.... :S

EB, World Cup Veterans and Participants in World Cup I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII & VIII will sign up for World Cup IX.


At the time of posting, still not World Champions.... :S

EB might be a good host, except for the fact that interstellar travel may pose a problem in hosting the World Cup.

71st ranked Nikea would also like to participate.

EB, World Cup Veterans and Participants in World Cup I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII & VIII will sign up for World Cup IX.


At the time of posting, still not World Champions.... :S

EB might be a good host, except for the fact that interstellar travel may pose a problem in hosting the World Cup.


Umm, EB is a modern tech nation...


In the South Pacific :D :P


And I don't know how to generate scores'n'stuff.

Ohhh, heh.

Well, Beddy made up a table and all, so it's pretty simple for me ;)

Ravenspire will once again participate.

We do plan to put in a bid to host the Cup. If Europa Brittania is amenable, however, perhaps we could bid to co-host? It seems a shame that a nation with their history of involvement in the World Cup has yet to host.

Alaric Morgannan
Chief Diplomat

Sign me up :)

Bump 8)

Sign me up!

Liverpool England are in, and this is how we propose our 3-way format with TBF and Kaze will work:
80 OR 90 qualifiers
With 80 qualifiers, 10 groups of 8, let top 2 and best third placed in = 21 + 3 hosts = 24
With 90 qualifiers, 15 groups of 6, let top 2 EXCEPT WORST SECOND PLACED (by Points-GD-GF) = 29 + 3 hosts = 32
With 80 qualifiers, Main Round 4 groups of 6, let in 4 per group = 16
With 90 qualifiers, Main Round 8 groups of 4, let in 2 per group = 16

Then continue in knock-out fashion. With 80 qualifiers, there will be 15 matchdays, compared to 90 qualifiers where there will be 17 matchdays.

EDIT: Rank for WC7: 28, played in WC: 6, 7, (and as it stands now 8 )

Kingsford signs up

Northern Kings signs up

So how do us small countries not big enough to make it into the World Cup start out? Is there some sort of qualifying tourney that we can lose in about 10 times before we might make it?

SI

So how do us small countries not big enough to make it into the World Cup start out? Is there some sort of qualifying tourney that we can lose in about 10 times before we might make it?

SI

That is exactly right ;) And if you're lucky you might even make it on your first or second try :P

So how do us small countries not big enough to make it into the World Cup start out? Is there some sort of qualifying tourney that we can lose in about 10 times before we might make it?

SI

That is exactly right ;) And if you're lucky you might even make it on your first or second try :P

Pardon the newbie ignorance again, but is this the right place to sign up for qualifying?

SI

Yep.

Well, I guess sign up SterlingIce to be some lucky group's whipping boy.

SI

Do I even have to say it? ;) I'm in.

Oh, and so is West Ariddia.

Offshore would like to participate... We'll begin building a stadium. Well, spreading plastic grass over a small section of our oil rig, and set a few chairs around it...

We'll send a team.

Lou said for me to sign up the Kickfooters for the big footgame thingy again, but he said he doesn't want to have to play the cows next time, please.

Ned Itchlesby
Foreign Minister
The Oppressed People of Gilmeecia

Number 17 in the world, Akbarland will again return.

* The Minister for Sport, Katalana Shour spoke on National Radio Station HFR today to confirm Hokianga's Participation in the tournament.

'The IceFists (The Name of Hokianga's National Team) have been training in the Government's top sports facilities for six months under close supervision, watch, ladies and gentlemen, as the IceFists cause wonder on the pitch and reconsiliation off it.' She Said.

Miss Shour, 43, went on to stress the importance of the tournament not just as a stage for which Hokianga to suceed but as an opportunity to promote equality, and freedom for the proletariat.

The Lemmings will once again participate.

"Oglethorpia will be entering a side for World Cup 9, as well as the 1901 National Team (1900s Oglethorpia.)"

Ben Wright
National Sporting Authority

1900s Oglethorpia (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=1900s_oglethorpia) would like to enter as well.

Well I haven't seen Errie and WC8 is about to start...

How come you had to wait for us?

Anyway, please count us in for WC9.

bump

Well I haven't seen Errie and WC8 is about to start...

How come you had to wait for us?

Anyway, please count us in for WC9.

I think the understanding was that Erri/you would be making the WC9 signup post.

Pavesia is always in, silent but still there :wink:

The once proud team of Dennisov wants to use this opportunity to sign up for WorldCup 9.

Thank you

Giant Zucchini wants participate in its 9th consecutive World Cup.

Possible Hosts
The Belmore Family, Kaze Progressa and Liverpool England
Ravenspire


Teams
1 Oglethorpia
2 Total n Utter Insanity
3 Snub Nose 38
4 Bedistan
5 Dark Outcasts
6 Terranos
7 Defari
8 Warnocks Wizards
9 Timway
10 Quohog
11 The Weegies
12 Auir II
13 Rejistania
14 Demonic Beings
15 The Belmore Family(Same as my rank)
16 Europa Brittania
17 Nikea
18 Ravenspire
19 Busby
20 Zeronia
21 Liverpool England
22 SterlingIce
23 Kingsford
24 Northen Kings
25 Ariddia
26 West Ariddia
27 Offshore
28 Soviet Haaregrad
29 Gilmeecia
30 Akbarland
31 Hokianga
32 Lemmitania
33 Oglethorpia
34 1900s Oglethorpia
35 Errinundera
36 New Pavesia
37 Pavesia
38 Dennisov
39 Giant Zucchini
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FC's team will join.

Okay a few things, Ariddia and K post as your puppets so I can add their post count, New Pavesia try posting as the right one.

TBF *smack*

Yeah Errie I wanted you to do it, but you disappeared, I think you are a shoo-in[sp?] for Host.

If Errie is not host of WC9, GZ will gladly pull away from its bid as host of WC10.

I was thinking of bidding with Errie, well maybe. I'd have to get his AIM/ICQ/MSN/Yahoo nickname so I could talk to him.

World Cup 5
Qualification
Group 3
Ariddia 2 The Belmore Family 2
Bedistan 1 The Belmore Family 2
Deskreich 1 The Belmore Family 1
Gesamtkuntswerk 2 The Belmore Family 1 (My first ever loss, but I was still 4th with an equal goal difference.)
Svecia 3 The Belmore Family 1(Uh-oh 2 losses in a row)
Nova Empyrea 4 The Belmore Family 1(Ouch down to 5th. But this as to be my last loss for a long time!)
Raidion 2 The Belmore Family 3
Won 2
Lost 3
Drew2
Group 3 looked like this

[code:1:709c368e52]
Group 3 P W D L F A GD Pts
Svecia 7 6 0 1 23 8 +15 18
Gesamtkuntswerk 7 5 1 1 13 10 +3 16
Ariddia 7 4 2 1 17 10 +7 14
Bedistan 7 2 3 2 10 10 0 9
The Belmore Family 7 2 2 3 11 15 -4 8
Nova Empyrea 7 1 3 3 9 13 -4 5
Deskreich 7 0 3 4 8 17 -9 3
Raidion 7 0 2 6 9 18 -9 2
[/code:1:709c368e52]


World Cup 6(I'm going to like this one)
Qualification
The Belmore Family 4 Futililia 2
Pure Evil 1 The Belmore Family 4
Nevershadow 1 The Belmore Family 3 (3 out of 3)
The Belmore Family 2 VA Industrialized 1
Tha Machine 0 The Belmore Family 4 (5 out of 5...rumours of bribery begin for me and Quohog)
The Belmore Family 1 Lunatic Goofballs 0
Communation 1 The Belmore Family 2
The Belmore Family 4 Futililia 0 (8 out of 8)
Pure Evil 2 The Belmore Family 3(The big complainer loses to me twice)
Nevershadow 2 The Belmore Family 1(Nooooooo... a loss. But I didn't care, I was through)

"BELMORE FAMILY LOSE!"

the lowly Nevershadow have handed TBF their first loss of the campaign with a 2-1 defeat of the corrupted rastards

Tha Machine 2 The Belmore Family 2
The Belmore Family 1 Lunatic Goofballs 2 (Ouch another loss)
Communation 1 The Belmore Family 3(A win to round off an excellent qualifcation)
The Belmore Family 3 VA Industrialized 1 (Ahhh... much better)
Group 4 looked like this
[code:1:709c368e52]
Group 4 P W D L F A GD Pts
The Belmore Family (47) 14 11 1 2 37 16 +21 34
Lunatic Goofballs (11) 14 9 1 4 29 16 +13 28
Nevershadow 14 6 3 5 24 25 -1 21
Pure Evil (22) 14 6 2 6 25 23 +2 20
Futililia 14 5 2 7 23 30 -7 17
VA Industrialized 14 4 3 7 21 30 -9 15
Communation 14 4 2 8 27 34 -7 14
Tha Machine 14 2 4 8 21 33 -12 10
[/code:1:709c368e52]

Top 10 qualifiers
[code:1:709c368e52]
Team Name G W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Quohog (25) 14 12 0 2 41 14 +27 36
2 The Belmore Family (47) 14 11 1 2 37 16 +21 34
3 Oglethorpia (13) 14 10 4 0 35 14 +21 34
4 One Red Dot (30) 14 9 4 1 27 12 +15 31
5 Copiosa Scotia (50) 14 10 1 3 34 21 +13 31
6 Halfassedstates (49) 14 9 3 2 33 14 +19 30
7 Malundar 14 9 3 2 32 19 +13 30
8 Runaway Moose (12) 14 9 2 3 22 12 +10 29
9 Audioslavia (40) 14 8 4 2 34 19 +15 28
10 Lunatic Goofballs (11) 14 9 1 4 29 16 +13 28
[/code:1:709c368e52]
1st Round
Group B
Snub Nose 38 2 The Belmore Family 1 (Not a good start)
Total and Utter Insanity 2 The Belmore Family 1 (Getting Worse)
The Belmore Family 2 - Malundar 2(Dreadful)
[code:1:709c368e52]
Name P W D L F A GD Pts
Total N Utter Insanity 3 3 0 0 7 3 +4 9
Snub Nose 38 3 2 0 1 6 6 0 6
Malundar 3 0 1 2 6 8 -2 1
The Belmore Family 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
[/code:1:709c368e52]
Total 17
Wins 11
Losses 3
Draws 3
World Cup 7
Qualification
The Belmore Family 0 Quohog 3
Dyelli Beybi 2 The Belmore Family 3
New-Persia 1 The Belmore Family 2
The Belmore Family 6 The Weegies 1
The Belmore Family 3 Fart wars 0
Quohog 2 The Belmore Family 1
The Belmore Family 5 New Persia 1
The Weegies 1-3 The Belmore Family
Fart wars 2 The Belmore Family 1
The Belmore Family 4 Dyelli Beybi 0

[code:1:709c368e52]
Group 10 P W D L F A GD Pts
Quohog 10 10 0 0 35 2 33 30
The Belmore Family 10 7 0 3 28 13 15 21
Dyelli Beybi 10 4 0 6 14 17 -3 12
The Weegies 10 2 2 6 13 26 -13 8
New-Persia 10 2 2 6 11 26 -15 8
Fart wars 10 2 2 6 10 27 -17 8
[/code:1:709c368e52]

1st Round
Lemmitania 3 The Belmore Family 4 (YAHOOOOO)
Svecia 3 The Belmore Family 0 (DOH!)
The Belmore Family 4 Giant Zucchini 3 (Yey, through to the second round)
[code:1:709c368e52]
Group E P W D L F A GD Points
Svecia 3 2 0 1 7 3 4 6
Belmore Family 3 2 0 1 8 9 -1 6
Lemmitania 3 1 0 2 7 8 -1 3
Giant Zucchini 3 1 0 2 6 8 -2 3
[/code:1:709c368e52]

Second Round
Halfassedstates 2 The Belmore Family 1 (DOH! Still my best run ever though.)

Hosting Bids
Kaze Progressa, The Belmore Family and Liverpool England (or as I will be refering to them "the good, the bad and the ugly")

A. Did you see that last night on Channel 4(I saw some of it, fell asleep half way through though.

B.That is no way to speak about Kaze Progressa and Liverpool England. :lol: :lol:

A. Actually I didn't, weird coincidence.

B. What makes you think that’s the right order?

A. Actually I didn't, weird coincidence.

B. What makes you think that’s the right order?
:cry: :cry: :cry:

Ravenspire will once again participate.

We do plan to put in a bid to host the Cup. If Europa Brittania is amenable, however, perhaps we could bid to co-host? It seems a shame that a nation with their history of involvement in the World Cup has yet to host.

Alaric Morgannan
Chief Diplomat
Hmm...Well TBH I don't think I'd be capable of running a cup. The number crunching for a start doesn't seem an easy thing to deal with. But I'm always open to new challenges, And Ravenspires idea of a co-host is certainly interesting.....

As well as being part of a co-hosting bid, Kaze Progressa will naturally participate.

As well as being part of a co-hosting bid, Kaze Progressa will naturally participate.

That always helps.

Updated.

How's this look

http://www.abelmore.com/wc9.GIF
EDIT:Added Http://

Commerce Heights will, of course, be participating in WC9. ;)

How's this look

http://www.abelmore.com/wc9.GIF
EDIT:Added Http://

what do you think?

"Oglethorpia will be entering a side for World Cup 9, as well as the 1901 National Team (1900s Oglethorpia.)"

Ben Wright
National Sporting Authority

1900s Oglethorpia (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=1900s_oglethorpia) would like to enter as well.

:D

How's this look

<terrible picture>

what do you think?

My eyes!!!!!

How's this look

<terrible picture>

what do you think?

My eyes!!!!!
What's wrong with it?
Sure, it needs a bit of tweaking but....

How's this look

< picture that could use a little tweaking>

what do you think?

My eyes!!!!!
What's wrong with it?
Sure, it needs a bit of tweaking but....
Well - if you are open to a bit of help - a long, long time ago i was an illustrator. the logo is nice, but a little busy. if i were doing it, i would

1. take out the little flags on the top and bottom. leave the ones left & right
2. instead of the logo being 1.5 times as tall as it is wide, i'd make it 1.5 times as wide as it is tall - it'll look more like a flag that way.
3. stretch the "9" a little from left to right, so the football looks round.
4. then just clean up the white area inside the "9" and around the football.

It's really a good design that needs a little tweaking.

Guys, I've been working on a trophy for the cup. I thought it too long we've gone without actually having one. It took just too long to make it for WC VIII, however I am humbly submitting the design for WC IX.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/295301/trophyfinal.jpg

Comments?

Looks good to me.

Only problem I can forsee: That Giant Zucchini is spelled wrong.

Otherwise, nice job EB!

Drat....

Ah well it can be fixed. Hopefully if we can get enough people liking the design we can implement it!

EB - great cup! I see no reason why it can't be used for WC8. As long as it gets adopted before the final. (and the zucchini thing)

dup post removed

EB - great cup! I see no reason why it can't be used for WC8. As long as it gets adopted before the final. (and the zucchini thing)

/me agrees :D

Here is the cup, with the corrections and remodelled for WC VIII.


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/295301/trophyfinalVIII.jpg

EB: Zucchini
(edit: either i read it wrong, or eb fixed it already)

EB - great cup! I see no reason why it can't be used for WC8. As long as it gets adopted before the final. (and the zucchini thing)

/me agrees :D

Too much IRC for you :wink:

Anyways, with that fix, the trophy looks great EB :D

yeah O_o I know...


I've edited and fixed...

At least, I hope so?

EB - great cup! I see no reason why it can't be used for WC8. As long as it gets adopted before the final. (and the zucchini thing)

/me agrees :D

Too much IRC for you :wink:

Heh, oddly enough I've never used IRC; I picked that up from elsewhere :P

We do plan to put in a bid to host the Cup. If Europa Brittania is amenable, however, perhaps we could bid to co-host? It seems a shame that a nation with their history of involvement in the World Cup has yet to host.

Hmm...Well TBH I don't think I'd be capable of running a cup. The number crunching for a start doesn't seem an easy thing to deal with. But I'm always open to new challenges, And Ravenspires idea of a co-host is certainly interesting.....

I understand it's mostly spreadsheet-based. I'd be happy to handle most of the numbers until you feel more comfortable with it, though. You've obviously got artistic skills I lack, so I'd call that more than even. And we can still collaborate on the logistical issues, like setting up the groups.

Just to comment, I have made a fully functional spreadsheet, should it be needed.

Svecia will be in it.

We do plan to put in a bid to host the Cup. If Europa Brittania is amenable, however, perhaps we could bid to co-host? It seems a shame that a nation with their history of involvement in the World Cup has yet to host.

Hmm...Well TBH I don't think I'd be capable of running a cup. The number crunching for a start doesn't seem an easy thing to deal with. But I'm always open to new challenges, And Ravenspires idea of a co-host is certainly interesting.....

I understand it's mostly spreadsheet-based. I'd be happy to handle most of the numbers until you feel more comfortable with it, though. You've obviously got artistic skills I lack, so I'd call that more than even. And we can still collaborate on the logistical issues, like setting up the groups.


I agree with this, and the boost to my ego is a well placed nudge towards that...




The Nations of Europa Brittania and Ravenspire submit a joint bid for hosting World Cup IX.

Svecia will be in it.

Finally someone who wants to enter :P

I think the cup is okay, maybe it could be better, but I'm too lazy to do it myself, plus I can't draw.

At least TBF spelt 9 right.

Er, thanks....I think. :?

If its not a good enough design, do criticise, I mean, its a prestigious competition!

Well half of it is good, the other half not :wink:

Well half of it is good, the other half not :wink:

My bet is TnUI thinks the good half is the trophy, the bad half being EB's editing of it.

Well half of it is good, the other half not :wink:
C'mon, be a little more descript...

My bet is TnUI thinks the good half is the trophy, the bad half being EB's editing of it.

Damn, Ogle knows me too well.

Well, Believe it or not, where it said WC VIII: TBC, I had originally decided to put Total'N Utter Insanity...

Really...

As if, I'll get beat 4-1 in the second round for the third time in a row.

I'll enter sign up

Wildthing's Realm would be honored to be part of World Cup 9.

I'm in. The Haraki Hawks shall compete in their fifth World Cup (We started in WC4).

I'm in. The Haraki Hawks shall compete in their fifth World Cup (We started in WC4).

And here's the World Cup 8 thread. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1649093#1649093)

Signing up....

Here is the cup, with the corrections and remodelled for WC VIII.

<image>

Looks good.

How's this look

http://www.abelmore.com/wc9.GIF
EDIT:Added Http://

what do you think?

The proportions are fine.

Though it's exceptionally blurry.

The proportions are fine.

Though it's exceptionally blurry.
Yeh, I'll make it smaller.

Good enough for me.

Well I haven't seen Errie and WC8 is about to start, so by popular demand...

Hosting Bids

Kaze Progressa, The Belmore Family and Liverpool England (or as I will be refering to them "the good, the bad and the ugly")
Ravenspire & Europa Brittania (or as I will be refering to them "REBed for her pleasure")

Teams (Posts & Name)

3123 Oglethorpia
2990 Freedom Country
2753 Total n Utter Insanity
1865 The Belmore Family
1409 Soviet Haaregrad
1134 Europa Brittania
1104 Ravenspire
851 Snub Nose 38
769 Ariddia
751 Zeronia
608 Busby
507 Errinundera
496 Lemmitania
472 Quohog
446 Keyshona
394 Bedistan
300 Giant Zucchini
250 Kaze Progressa
234 Kingsford
213 Dark Outcasts
209 Nikea
205 Dennisov
196 Terranos
186 The Weegies
175 Svecia
140 Commerce Heights
110 Timway
105 Defari
103 Auir II
94 Gilmeecia
76 Rejistania
28 Offshore
25 Akbarland
11 Warnocks Wizards
10 SterlingIce
7 Hokianga
6 Endray-Island
4 Demonic Beings
4 1900s Oglethorpia

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I think I'll give up collecting the sponsorship.
You missed me.

Pure Evil would like to enter it's soccer team Magicians.

And we want to enter as possible host

Hosting Bids

Kaze Progressa, The Belmore Family and Liverpool England (or as I will be refering to them "the good, the bad and the ugly")
Ravenspire & Europa Brittania (or as I will be refering to them "REBed for her pleasure")
Pure Evil

Teams (Posts & Name)

3123 Oglethorpia
3009 Pure Evil
2990 Freedom Country
2753 Total n Utter Insanity
1865 The Belmore Family
1409 Soviet Haaregrad
1134 Europa Brittania
1104 Ravenspire
851 Snub Nose 38
769 Ariddia
751 Zeronia
692 Liverpool England
608 Busby
507 Errinundera
496 Lemmitania
472 Quohog
446 Keyshona
394 Bedistan
300 Giant Zucchini
250 Kaze Progressa
234 Kingsford
213 Dark Outcasts
209 Nikea
205 Dennisov
196 Terranos
186 The Weegies
175 Svecia
140 Commerce Heights
110 Timway
105 Defari
103 Auir II
94 Gilmeecia
76 Rejistania
28 Offshore
25 Akbarland
11 Warnocks Wizards
10 SterlingIce
7 Hokianga
6 Endray-Island
4 Demonic Beings
4 1900s Oglethorpia

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sign us up again

Edit - just read Olgy's comment in WC8 sign-up

Halfassedstates Current rank (for WC8 = 8.) {gotta be a sign!!}
been in WC since WC5!

L'équipe nationale will participate (Though I haven't faired well in the past!) :evil:

Ah yes I did, thank you, but could you not post a list that is over a page long twice.

Damn you!!!!!!!

Sign me up.

Too think 2 days off the internet would have made a difference...

Sign up WC7 16th ranked ORD in to WC9, their 6th consecutive world cup...Yes...today, 16th, tomorrow, THE WORLD *shouted with much enthusiasm* !!!!!...ehrm...I mean..THE CUP *shouted with less enthusiasm* !!!

The proportions are fine.

Though it's exceptionally blurry.
Yeh, I'll make it smaller.
TBF: I agree - very nice, a little blurry.

The trick illustrators use is - make it VERY big to start, then do what you're planning - shrink it.

We want to be in !

LordSquall ===> LordSquallFreeRepublic

Sponsors :

LSFR Jächtkö Electrics Company [JEC] ©

:)

There yo go.
http://www.abelmore.com/wc9.GIF

I don't know if I've signed up... is it too late? I'm going to be back full time now with real RPs... missed being on top of things.
Gus has even taken courses in reffing so that he'll better understand the offsides rule!

[ooc: okay, if Bedistan/Ogles would TG me in the future with the WC VIII Finals score [assuming unselfishley I'm not involved...] earlier than its announced, I can add the winners name to the trophy assuming they both agree to its use.....]

Sign me up.

[ooc: okay, if Bedistan/Ogles would TG me in the future with the WC VIII Finals score [assuming unselfishley I'm not involved...] earlier than its announced, I can add the winners name to the trophy assuming they both agree to its use.....]

No problem, although I'll probably forget long before then. Remind me when we get to say, the semifinals. ;)

Due to the fact I've ended up doing the tables :x

I'm capping the amount of teams for World Cup 9 at 75 (Plus two hosts, unless t'good, t'bad and t'ugly get in)

Input from others?

If Ravenspire and Europa Brittania succeed in their bid, I was planning on one of the following:

* 80 qualifiers, arranged as 10 groups of 8. Top three in each enter, for 30, plus 2 hosts = 32. The main round would then be 8 groups of 4, with the top two in each proceeding.

* 90 qualifiers, arranged as 15 groups of 6 or as 10 groups of 9. Top two or three in each enter, for 30, plus 2 hosts = 32. Main round as above.

(I'm leaning toward fewer groups with more in each group, because I think it's more interesting when there are more seeded players competing for slots. But 10 groups of 9 would lead to one team not playing on any given match day, which I would like to avoid. Plus, I'd need to see what EB thinks about the matter.)

75 would work for us, though it would lead to some teams having days off:

* 75 qualifiers, arranged as 15 groups of 5. Top two in each enter, for 30, plus 2 hosts = 32. Main round as above.

Five is also a rather small group for qualifying, though. I'd really prefer to go with 80 qualifiers, since that number allows for some decent-sized groups. Would the extra five teams really add that much work?

Hmm... come to that, I think it should be possible to generate a table from the spreadsheet result data, though I'm not sure how well formatted it would be.

Seven or eight teams in a group makes things a bit more exciting.

But if we do do seven or eight teams, two matches against each team = a crapton of matches. In WC4 and WC5 teams only played each other once, lowering the amount of games played quite a bit and I think that setup worked pretty well.

I mean, WC6 and we had 14 matches for qualifying. It's almost bad for the really good teams since they'll end up winning/drawing 10 and the last 4 will not matter for them.

Five is also a rather small group for qualifying, though.

There are 5 or 6 teams in the European qualifying :P

We would need 80 or 90 participants - 75 is too difficult to work out.

Seven or eight teams in a group makes things a bit more exciting.

But if we do do seven or eight teams, two matches against each team = a crapton of matches. In WC4 and WC5 teams only played each other once, lowering the amount of games played quite a bit and I think that setup worked pretty well.

I mean, WC6 and we had 14 matches for qualifying. It's almost bad for the really good teams since they'll end up winning/drawing 10 and the last 4 will not matter for them.

I think it'll be okay as long as we keep things moving during qualifiers -- an extra four days shouldn't matter that much. WC6 had some delays drawing things out, IIRC. Plus, my gut instinct is, it actually improves things for unranked teams, because they get more games with which to improve their standing for next time. One loss might not matter much for a top-50 team, but one win can make a big difference for a newbie.

If people think it would be a problem, we could try releasing two results per RL day. It'd probably cut down on the RP a bit, but very few teams RP every match as it is, and quality of RP posts means more than quantity does.

Five is also a rather small group for qualifying, though.

There are 5 or 6 teams in the European qualifying :P

There are fewer nations in the real world than on NS. 8)

aaah go on then ;)

Five is also a rather small group for qualifying, though.
There are 5 or 6 teams in the European qualifying :P
There are fewer nations in the real world than on NS. 8)

There are fewer nations on NS playing football than in the Real World. :P

TnUI's capping idea mightn't be a bad one, although we would need to have some kindda probation list thing i feel.

Already in my qualifying group for WC8 the 2 unseeded teams look likly to 'disappear' (if they haven't already by now) when i checked yesterday, one had been inactive for 19 days, one for 20.

If we are 'limiting' numbers, it would be advisable to weed out these kind of nations before the start of the tournament to give those really interested the chance of joining in

TnUI's capping idea mightn't be a bad one, although we would need to have some kindda probation list thing i feel.

Already in my qualifying group for WC8 the 2 unseeded teams look likly to 'disappear' (if they haven't already by now) when i checked yesterday, one had been inactive for 19 days, one for 20.

If we are 'limiting' numbers, it would be advisable to weed out these kind of nations before the start of the tournament to give those really interested the chance of joining in

That's the general idea.

TnUI's capping idea mightn't be a bad one, although we would need to have some kindda probation list thing i feel.

Already in my qualifying group for WC8 the 2 unseeded teams look likly to 'disappear' (if they haven't already by now) when i checked yesterday, one had been inactive for 19 days, one for 20.

If we are 'limiting' numbers, it would be advisable to weed out these kind of nations before the start of the tournament to give those really interested the chance of joining in

That's the general idea.

ok then - i agree with it wholeheartedly then :D

Hey im in 8)

Number 45 Aquilla is IN.

TnUI: edit your front page post, Daksbe is Gesamtkuntswerk.

TnUI: edit your front page post, Daksbe is Gesamtkuntswerk.

I will do if he posts as Gesamtkuntswerk.

The national team of Kegarna would like to participate in this tournament if it is still possible.

Kaze Progressa have created an alternative logo design for their joint WC9 bid:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/395015/logov2.GIF

Their suggestion is for thirteen groups of seven (81 teams) with the top two going through automatically for 26 places. All the third-placed sides bar the one with the worst record meet in a two-legged playoff (randomly drawn) with the winners taking the final six places.

This is very similar to, but bigger than, the European qualifying for the 1998 World Cup.

[OOC: I'd like to see the bidding done with plenty of time. I propose we are all given a date by which to have plans and logos etc. ready for inspection.

Why not have each bidding party create a thread, detailing its bid, and then have the WCC check each one out.

At least, knowing how long we have to decide how we're going to run things if chosen would be good.]

If it is not to late, Clearwater would like to sign up.

[OOC: I'd like to see the bidding done with plenty of time. I propose we are all given a date by which to have plans and logos etc. ready for inspection.

Why not have each bidding party create a thread, detailing its bid, and then have the WCC check each one out.

At least, knowing how long we have to decide how we're going to run things if chosen would be good.]

I think that's a great idea. The WCC can then make a more informed decision.

The Dragonian Empire will attempt to qualify for WC9

I would like a

Pure Evil - Aquilla Co Host

I also will reserve a place for yentrofinova, which I shall confirm shortly, and Aquilla Motorworks will pay $$$ to sponsor!

Kaze Progressa have created an alternative logo design for their joint WC9 bid:

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Nicer.

Any particular reason all the logos developed for 9 have the hosts' names or flags on 'em? Not that I mind that...

My favorite so far, I'd say, was TB's for 5. Though I rather thought Audioslavia's for Seven was pretty clever. Come to think of it, that was a play on his flag.

Now, should Gilmeecia ever host (which we won't), our flag would definitely be worked into the logo. And you'd see the damn thing everywhere.

Hosts
TBF, LE, KP 2806
EB, RS 2238
PE, AQ 4001


3009 Pure Evil
1865 The Belmore Family
1134 Europa Brittania
1104 Ravenspire
992 Aquilla
691 Liverpool England
250 Kaze Progressa

I also will reserve a place for yentrofinova, which I shall confirm shortly, and Aquilla Motorworks will pay $$$ to sponsor!

Reserving no longer works, if you don't post as the nation you want in, you don't get in, also check the first post re sponsorship.

Liverpool England stadiums, World Cup nine
Bede National Soccer Park
Home of: Bede City
Location: Bede, LE
Cap: usually 100000
Special Facilities: Stadium can be expanded to fit up to 400, 000 people
Avg Weather: 20'C to 39'C
Ticket Prices: for regualr seats, L£30 to L£2000 for expanded areas, L£192 to L£3400

Talbott Springs
Home of: (just finished construction, will not be used by a team until after WC8)
Location: Talbott, LE
Cap: usually 36000
Special Facilities: Spectators can leave the match at any time and go to the nearby hot springs FREE (provided you have match tickets) to soak yourself and still watch the match on a 36" TV.
Avg Weather: 20'C to 35'C
Ticket Prices: at match throughout: L£65 to L£2500, match plus hot springs L£2501 to L£3000

Pardbo Area
Home of: (not a home ground. Built specially for WC9, after which will be used for other sports)
Location: 15 miles southwest of Pardbo Train Station
Cap: 94003
Avg Weather: 20'C to 36'C
Ticket Prices: L£200 to L£3000

National Stadium, CCL
Cap: 100450
Avg Temp: 25'C
Ticket Prices: L£300 to L£30000 (L£1=US$1.75)

Desert Stadium, Orean
Home of: Orean Utd
Cap: 94644
Avg Temp: From 15'C to 44'C
Ticket Prices: L£150 to L£25000

Bulldogs Road, Schimpol, Lox Land Island
Home of: Schimpol Bulldogs
Cap: 98440
Special Facilities: Prevents flodding during moonsoon season
Avg Temp: -4'C to 25'C
Ticket Prices: L£150 to L£24000

Folenisa Desert Park, Folenisa
Home of: Folenisa City
Cap: 72005
Avg Temp: 15'C to 42'C
Ticket Prices: L£300 to L£29000

Teams (Posts & Name)

9292 Haraki
3123 Oglethorpia
3009 Pure Evil
2990 Freedom Country
2753 Total n Utter Insanity
2520 LordSquall
1865 The Belmore Family
1409 Soviet Haaregrad
1134 Europa Brittania
1104 Ravenspire
992 Aquilla
851 Snub Nose 38
769 Ariddia
751 Zeronia
691 Liverpool England
622 Tanah Burung
608 Busby
507 Errinundera
496 Lemmitania
472 Quohog
446 Keyshona
394 Bedistan
300 Giant Zucchini
250 Kaze Progressa
234 Kingsford
213 Dark Outcasts
209 Nikea
205 Dennisov
204 Halfassedstates
196 Terranos
186 The Weegies
175 Svecia
140 Commerce Heights
114 One Red Dot
110 Timway
105 Defari
103 Auir II
94 Gilmeecia
81 Runaway Moose
76 Rejistania
61 Kegarna
37 Anti-Nazis
32 The Dragonian Empire
28 Offshore
25 Akbarland
17 Eauz
17 Antaeus Rising
13 Wildthings Realm
11 Clearwater
11 Warnocks Wizards
10 SterlingIce
8 Daksbe
7 Hokianga
6 Endray-Island
4 Demonic Beings
4 1900s Oglethorpia

[55]

I think I'll give up collecting the sponsorship.

You've forgotten West Ariddia.

See above.

Kaze Progressa have created an alternative logo design for their joint WC9 bid:

<image>
Nicer.

Any particular reason all the logos developed for 9 have the hosts' names or flags on 'em? Not that I mind that...

My favorite so far, I'd say, was TB's for 5. Though I rather thought Audioslavia's for Seven was pretty clever. Come to think of it, that was a play on his flag.

Now, should Gilmeecia ever host (which we won't), our flag would definitely be worked into the logo. And you'd see the damn thing everywhere.
The Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages thinks deeply (well, as deeply as he is able) about the message from Gilmeecia to all WC participants, regarding WC logos. Several things come to mind (well, if you can call that a mind):

1 - He can't remember what the logo for WC5 was. Or WC6. Or WC7. Or WC4. Or...
2 - He remembers the WC8 logo...at least, for now.
3 - The prospect of a proliferation of Gilmeecian flags causes a sinking feeling in the pit of his stomach.
4 - What would the logo for a Snub Nose 38 hosted WC (a distinct impossibility) look like? Many pictures come to mind (see above comment regarding "mind), none of which are pretty.

He will have to ask Margaret about this. 8)

I would like to sign up

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Next person to quote the list gets a nice ban.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Next person to quote the list gets a nice ban.
*is sorely tempted...but somehow, resists* :wink:

New Idea for an Old Problem.

Qualifying Tables, the bane of some peoples existence.

Idea, we get people who agree to do their own table and put one in each group.

Problem solved?

Well...that way, you solve one problem, who's going to do the tables. But I think you would also create two new ones-
1 - What happens when the Curse 'O The Cup strikes?
2 - Nobody's checking the tables. Right now, even though it's a pain (particularly to whoever is doing the tables), people are catching the mistakes.

dup removed (swears)

I can't remember if I already signed up for this one. If not, put me on the list.

New Idea for an Old Problem.

Qualifying Tables, the bane of some peoples existence.

Idea, we get people who agree to do their own table and put one in each group.

Problem solved?

That's a good idea. But the hosts would have to make sure to make some considerations into putting responsible, RPing nations into each group so as to have someone to do the tables: if there were no rankings to consider, I would've grouped all the nations I know for a fact that don't RP and put all the serious-RPing nations together.

But, alas they must be split up for the fairness of the international game.

That's why the first round is so fun.

Anyways, final-summarized statement: TnUI, if we find the correct people in each group to do their own group tables, that'd be a whole lot better because doing 1 table right is a lot more managable than having to do 15.

TnUI, could you do me the favour of swapping Daksbe for my position? Daksbe is my secondary nation, and I forgot I was logged in as it while confirming my presence in WC 9. Any problems with that, please PM me.

Getting the nations in the group to put their own tables will be a good idea but then you guys have to make sure that every group would have at least one nation that WILL do the tables. Can that be certain? It's possible, but I'm not too certain about that.

And also something too add to the above, once all 15 group tables (or more or less, depending on what happens) are collected, then someone could put them all on the SCORES thread so that there would be a central place to put them so that others can look back at them OR for archival purposes, etc.

Team: Oddslavo
WCs: 7, 8
Rank after WC7 for WC8: 35th
Currently: 1st in Group 6
Posts: 6

OOC: It's LE, for those who didnt know

Team: Oddslavo
WCs: 7, 8
Rank after WC7 for WC8: 35th
Currently: 1st in Group 6
Posts: 6

OOC: It's LE, for those who didnt know

I take it you want to enter? Heh

Team: Oddslavo
WCs: 7, 8
Rank after WC7 for WC8: 35th
Currently: 1st in Group 6
Posts: 6

OOC: It's LE, for those who didnt know

I take it you want to enter? Heh
yes.

Bumpity

You do realise that it is really easy to set up a table in Excel

If nations can still enter count the JFA's national team in. A small nation we may be but almost everyone in Jezland plays football (resulting in 7 national leagues!).

Jezland Football Association

The Grand Duchy of Hell Bovines states its intention to participate in this world cup, as long as the other countries promise not to try eating our players. We might look tasty, but we have feelings too.
Best luck,

Mooo IV, duque of hell bovines

The Grand Duchy of Hell Bovines states its intention to participate in this world cup, as long as the other countries promise not to try eating our players. We might look tasty, but we have feelings too.
Best luck,

Mooo IV, duque of hell bovines
In a press release today the Ministry of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages supported the entry of Hell Bovines in World Cup 9. As a show of friendship the Ministry is circulating a petition, "World Cup 9 Won't Eat Hell Bovines" (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77525&highlight=). Other like-minded sporting nations who will participate in World Cup 9 are invited to sign.

The Ministry also announced that the Snub Nose 38 Hooligan Cheerleaders simply can't wait for the Hooligans to play Hell Bovines. Apparently they have a few ideas for appropriate (this reporter thinks it's more likely "inappropriate") cheers.

we will join in if we may.

Alternative logo:
here (http://www.freewebs.com/ns_le_pics/wc9.htm)

Alternative logo:
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Please...no more.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/395015/logov2.GIF
I personally like this one best, only if it had my B and F in capitals

OOC: Will be absent on following days:

07 Oct
09 Oct
13 Oct
14 Oct
15 Oct
16 Oct
17 Oct
08 Oct*
10 Oct*

* On 8 and 10 October I might or might not make it.

Tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk....

Go on, put in Spaam and East Spaam :)

And I would just like to warn you I may be putting a hosting bid in.... as soon as some details are ironed out....

Tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk....

Go on, put in Spaam and East Spaam :)

And I would just like to warn you I may be putting a hosting bid in.... as soon as some details are ironed out....
meh? But you've hosted before.

lanky dude would like to participate in your highley enlightenening comprotitonth. we thinth that thith ith a good idea

Tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk....

Go on, put in Spaam and East Spaam :)

And I would just like to warn you I may be putting a hosting bid in.... as soon as some details are ironed out....
meh? But you've hosted before.

Technically no :P

And besides, it isn't confirmed, as there are some details to be worked out, and it certainly won't be a single bid.

Also, I'd kinda like to make up for the gaffuffle we made....

Oh yeah, just in case you need MOI to post too :P

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/395015/logov2.GIF
I personally like this one best, only if it had my B and F in capitals

Stylised, my friend... :D

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/395015/logov2.GIF
I personally like this one best, only if it had my B and F in capitals

Stylised, my friend... :D
Stylised maybe, but I see no capitols.

Ok, this is my rant.

Tanah Burung didn't get into the first round.

Jackatazea did.

One of them did no RPing whatsoever. This needs to be the Cup where actively RPing nations get the upper hand. The ones putting the time into rosters and RPing their games deserve more attacks in the equation since it makes no sense to advance teams whose players have done nothing besides take up space in a Cup.

Worst case scenario? We have semi-finals with nations who haven't even looked in the World Cup topic a dozen times.

I don't think TnUI's list of posting nations and less active nations will do it. We need to identify people who have less than a dozen posts in World Cup topics, even if they have at least a hundred elsewhere.

I'm talking Haraki primarily here. He's got 9,000 posts, but I garantee 99% of that is spent in other places than the World Cup.

Because it's pretty lame to see Tanah Burung's spot taken up by someone who doesn't care if their nation wins the World Cup.

Ok, this is my rant.

Tanah Burung didn't get into the first round.

Jackatazea did.

One of them did no RPing whatsoever. This needs to be the Cup where actively RPing nations get the upper hand. The ones putting the time into rosters and RPing their games deserve more attacks in the equation since it makes no sense to advance teams whose players have done nothing besides take up space in a Cup.

Worst case scenario? We have semi-finals with nations who haven't even looked in the World Cup topic a dozen times.

I don't think TnUI's list of posting nations and less active nations will do it. We need to identify people who have less than a dozen posts in World Cup topics, even if they have at least a hundred elsewhere.

I'm talking Haraki primarily here. He's got 9,000 posts, but I garantee 99% of that is spent in other places than the World Cup.

Because it's pretty lame to see Tanah Burung's spot taken up by someone who doesn't care if their nation wins the World Cup.
I've got to agree - seeing TB knocked out by a no-show doesn't seem right. RPing has to count. I don't know exactly how to do it, but I'm sure the idea is right.

Il sign up. So far all my sports teams have been top of the line! and for the first time ever a sports team from the RU is going to a playoff match!

so everyone be prepared the RU is going to win the world cup! and by the way how is the scoring done?

I appreciate the support guys, although them's the breaks and i'll randomly toss insults at you both even without having qualified. Anyways, it can be fun to RP losing. I'm gonna miss TnUI being in the Cup too. (See, TnUI, that's what happens when you say "i'm not going to RP the qualifiers." :wink: )

I was suggesting an RP bonus a few Cups back, and although i'm not pressing for it right now, here's some thoughts. I tried an RP bonus in the first field hockey Cup, giving one extra attack or one fewer attack against for a team that RP'ed its previous game, to a maximum of +/- 4 attacks. This affected the results of a total of 3 matches in the opening round, and none in the finals. So i think it might work here, although the down side is it would greatly reduce the rank and attack/defence bonuses in the current formula. KP will presumably be able to tell us how much an RP bonus affects finals when combined with rank after FHWC2. So consider that a dry run that future hosts can consider or not, as they like.

If memory serves, Lemm suggested earlier that teams that entered but never RP'ed might be barred from entering in future Cups. That's another method. I don't actually mind being out, but i'd have no objection to exluding a team like Jacktazea that has not as far as i know RP'ed anything in the World Cup ever (and did not RP in the field hockey either). Not because there's anything against them, but i hate to see the Cup proper have groups with silent teams.

Edit to add: i see that KP is incorporating an RP bonus by having the team's rank fall by one for each match RP'ed. Interesting idea, will be interested to see how that plays out.

Good insight from SN38 and TB...the idea of banning is a good idea either.

Tell you the truth, if the WCC decides to go ahead and start banning nations that don't RP, I wouldn't mind being the one to compile the ban list.

For the greater good of the Cup.

Despite suffering massive losses and a fall in investor convidence in World Cup 8, Consumer Engineering World Cup Enterprises Ltd believes that the prospects of establishing a profitable consumer clientele in World Cup 9 will lead to a resurgence of their financial situation. Accordingly the company will enter a side on behalf of the nation of Consumer Engineering in World Cup 9.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/consumer_engineering.jpg

"Will that be on credit?"

Personally, I prefer the banning method. The posts method is not good for the newcomers. For example, one of the first threads I posted in was the World Cup thread. My number of postings was only about 2 or 3. If we followed your method, I would have been heavily sidelined. So I think the banning method is better.

I think the "mess-around-with-formulas-based-on-RP" is a better idea because this will allow team to enter if they want, but in the long run, it will be most of the RPers that enter the cup (hopefully). Banning is not so much of a good idea because it discourages newbies from joining. And with less teams, it will be less fun, right?

The posts method is not good for the newcomers.

I'm just collecting the posts, I'm not gonna decide just off them.

That's good

That seem's fair, it'll lower the amount of nations in the cup and make it more realistic.

That seem's fair, it'll lower the amount of nations in the cup and make it more realistic.

OOC:
Actually, there were something like 198 nations competing for the Japan/ROK World Cup, so we're not quite there yet. ;)

I'm considering holding an invitation-only tournament for about 12 non-qualifiers who do RP, to run at the same time as WC8. Any objections to this idea?

Edit to add: i see that KP is incorporating an RP bonus by having the team's rank fall by one for each match RP'ed. Interesting idea, will be interested to see how that plays out.

It seems not to have had much of an effect in the eight second-round matches for the following reason: ranks didn't matter much because the 'unranked' sides were given 20, but there was no modification to the formula for each attack from the WC8 results (I think: the formula was a random number up to 1000 and subtracting 850, a positive number resulting in a goal). Hence Wildthings Realm collapsing to first-round humiliation (hell, it gave them RPing opportunities - and besides, what happened to France in Korea-Japan 2002??? :twisted: ) and a clutch of good performances from unranked sides.

But I think it could work (and is easier to do IMO) - so long as the rank difference is significant enough to encourage RPing. We might have to make the rankings change by more than one (maybe dependant upon RP quality as determined by the host and/or user feedback) to make the bonuses match up to the benefit of extra attacks as utilised by TB. This is the system I will recommend to TBF and LE if we win our bid for WC9. (Apologies for shameless plug :D)

I'm a big fan of RP bonuses... but then, seeing as I regularly RP but am not yet established enough to stand much of a chance of qualifying (I was ranked 82nd, or something, for WC8 qualifying) I'm going to. Hopefully, people won't call me a hypocrite for this...

I'm considering holding an invitation-only tournament for about 12 non-qualifiers who do RP, to run at the same time as WC8. Any objections to this idea?

The Akbarland national team would be delighted to participate in such a tournament and urges Tanah Burung to go along with it.(And to invite us as well.)

[quote=Tanah Burung]I'm considering holding an invitation-only tournament for about 12 non-qualifiers who do RP, to run at the same time as WC8. Any objections to this idea?
Cool I like it

I'm considering holding an invitation-only tournament for about 12 non-qualifiers who do RP, to run at the same time as WC8. Any objections to this idea?

While my team would be ineligible to be in it, I do like the idea quite a bit.

The posts method is not good for the newcomers.

I'm just collecting the posts, I'm not gonna decide just off them.

Parts of my post are directed at you, TnUI.

Haraki may be active, and he may be nearing 10,000 posts everyday, but he does very very little World Cup RPing.

OOC: But counting of RP posts to the World Cup thread (and maybe related posts, like the roster thread) might be a good way of handling it. It rewards participation in the Cup, and ignores posts racked up elsewhere.

If I were doing it this way, I'd probably peg the scale so that the benefit "tops out" at 1 post per 2 matches. That way, you don't penalize a regular RPer who misses a game now and then, but you still encourage regular RP posts.

Not sure exactly how I'd set up the scale, yet, though. Ideally, "quality" would play a part, but that's a little too subjective for my tastes.

IF EB and I host, I will be instituting some form of RP bonus, at least for the qualifiers; I just need to play with the numbers a bit before I can say exactly what.

Parts of my post are directed at you, TnUI.

I know, just I'm ignoring you.

:lol: j/k

I can't remember what it said.

Parts of my post are directed at you, TnUI.

I know, just I'm ignoring you.

:lol: j/k

I can't remember what it said.

It said that Haraki's got tons of posts, but few World Cup ones.

As far as i know Pure Evil dead.

I would like to take his/her spot if thats alright.

It said that Haraki's got tons of posts, but few World Cup ones.

Why didn't you just say that then. Frankly I don't mind Haraki not posting in the WC; maybe if he did a mini-match summary now and again he could appease you.

As far as i know Pure Evil dead.

I would like to take his/her spot if thats alright.

Pure Evil is alive and kicking. Why not just sign up?

rar, were in again :)

67 teams. That means theres still time for us, right?

OK, i've decided to go ahead and do the invitational tournament for 10 non-qualifiers: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1756549#1756549

ok sign us up.

This is the first time I have done the WC, how do I know if I am in and when do I start RPing?

This is the first time I have done the WC, how do I know if I am in and when do I start RPing?

Keep checking in this thread, and look at the World Cup 8 Thread to see how far along it is.

It said that Haraki's got tons of posts, but few World Cup ones.

Why didn't you just say that then. Frankly I don't mind Haraki not posting in the WC; maybe if he did a mini-match summary now and again he could appease you.

He could.

But he doesn't.

So.

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Ranking Table P W D L F A GD Pts
Dark Outcasts (11) 10 6 1 3 23 15 +8 19
Pavesia (39) 10 5 3 2 16 11 +5 18
Pure Evil (9) 10 5 3 2 15 11 +4 18
Aquilla (45) 10 5 2 3 21 18 +3 17
Akbarland (17) 10 5 2 3 13 12 +1 17
Neolithica 10 5 2 3 15 19 -4 17
Tanah Burung (27) 10 4 4 2 18 12 +6 16
Sliponia (74) 10 4 4 2 17 12 +5 16
WNA 10 5 1 4 15 15 0 16
God Squad (62) 10 4 3 3 15 11 +4 15
Quohog (26) 10 4 3 3 14 14 0 15
Nikea (71) 10 5 0 5 13 16 -3 15
The Weegies (68) 10 4 2 4 16 16 0 14
Voyger 10 4 2 4 17 18 -1 14
Keyshona 10 4 2 4 17 20 -3 14
BlackEagle Corp. 10 4 2 4 14 20 -6 14
Total n Utter Insanity (19) 10 3 4 3 16 15 +1 13
Alasdair I Frosticus (60) 10 4 1 5 16 17 -1 13
Yentrofinova 10 4 1 5 11 12 -1 13
Eauz (85) 10 4 1 5 16 18 -2 13
LordSquall (42) 10 3 3 4 16 16 0 12
Endray-Island 10 4 0 6 19 21 -2 12
The Dragonian Empire 10 3 3 4 12 16 -4 12
1900s Oglethorpia 10 4 0 6 22 27 -5 12
Simba Polo 10 3 3 4 9 16 -7 12
Australian Marsupials (127) 10 3 2 5 14 15 -1 11
Kaze Progressa (82) 10 2 5 3 11 13 -2 11
Agnosticium 10 3 2 5 19 22 -3 11
Sycoes 10 3 2 5 16 20 -4 11
Ineptia 10 3 2 5 15 21 -6 11
Slops Pit 10 3 2 5 16 24 -8 11
Mezitzia (72) 10 3 2 5 9 17 -8 11
Hell Bovines 10 3 1 6 11 14 -3 10
Dead Man (107) 10 3 1 6 17 21 -4 10
Sazland (67) 10 2 4 4 8 13 -5 10
Jangle Jangle Ridge 10 3 1 6 13 20 -7 10
West Ariddia (57) 10 3 1 6 17 25 -8 10
Defari 10 2 3 5 11 18 -7 9
Chronos Prime 10 3 0 7 12 20 -8 9
Bardai (80) 10 2 3 5 12 21 -9 9
Parthenon 10 2 3 5 11 20 -9 9
East Spaam 10 1 5 4 14 17 -3 8
Hellfish 10 1 5 4 14 18 -4 8
Alhana Catherine (87) 10 2 2 6 16 20 -4 8
Warnocks Wizards 10 2 2 6 12 19 -7 8
Jadonopolos 10 2 2 6 15 23 -8 8
Zeronia 10 2 2 6 12 20 -8 8
Rave Shentavo (103) 10 1 4 5 15 21 -6 7
Northern Kings (108) 10 1 4 5 9 15 -6 7
Nadaskor 10 2 1 7 11 20 -9 7
N S A 10 2 1 7 11 22 -11 7
Coffee Cup 10 2 1 7 8 19 -11 7
Memeplex 10 2 1 7 11 27 -16 7
New Pavesia 10 0 6 4 12 18 -6 6
Zinkoland 10 1 3 6 12 19 -7 6
Jekonuam 10 1 3 6 10 17 -7 6
Anti-Nazis 10 2 0 8 10 18 -8 6
Consumer Engineering 10 2 0 8 8 17 -9 6
Carasek 10 1 2 7 13 26 -13 5
Male 18 10 1 1 8 12 24 -12 4
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Taken from Ogle & Beddy tables, not my fault if there are mistakes.

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Rk Name
33 Dark Outcasts
34 Pavesia
35 Pure Evil
36 Aquilla
37 Akbarland
38 Neolithica
39 Tanah Burung
40 Sliponia
41 WNA
42 God Squad
43 Quohog
44 Nikea
45 The Weegies
46 Voyger
47 Keyshona
48 BlackEagle Corporation
49 Total n Utter Insanity
50 Alasdair I Frosticus
51 Yentrofinova
52 Eauz
53 LordSquall
54 Endray-Island
55 The Dragonian Empire
56 1900s Oglethorpia
57 Simba Polo
58 Australian Marsupials
59 Kaze Progressa
60 Agnosticium
61 Sycoes
62 Ineptia
63 Slops Pit
64 Mezitzia
65 Hell Bovines
66 Dead Man
67 Sazland
68 Jangle Jangle Ridge
69 West Ariddia
70 Defari
71 Chronos Prime
72 Bardai
73 Parthenon
74 East Spaam
75 Hellfish
76 Alhana Catherine
77 Warnocks Wizards
78 Jadonopolos
79 Zeronia
80 Rave Shentavo
81 Northern Kings
82 Nadaskor
83 N S A
84 Coffee Cup
85 Memeplex
86 New Pavesia
87 Zinkoland
88 Jekonuam
89 Anti-Nazis
90 Consumer Engineering
91 Carasek
92 Male 18
93 Malundar
94 Lunatic Goofballs
95 Nonexistentcitygrad
96 Melita and Gaulos
97 Christofi
98 Freedomnessity
99 The Republic of Canada
100 South euroland
101 Rhaken Kull
102 GnOoLoCoPeLep
103 Terranos
104 ENRG
105 Dyelli Beybi
106 Tha Machine
107 Davidus Voldemort
108 DePaul
109 Grand master Mark
110 The Promise of Joshua
111 Middleton
112 North Russia
113 New-Persia
114 Fart wars
115 Bizarro
116 Praetorian Rome
117 Intergallactic Hell
118 Crimina
119 Etria
120 Kerla
121 Ribenia
122 Nintendania
123 Zihkav
124 Trafari
125 Katimarie
126 Pablicosta
127 Krieland
128 Yatsumica
129 Estiv
130 Brazillico
131 Chakra
132 Copiosa Scotia
133 Ironchefk
134 Dannland
135 Cobra Cult
136 _AMP
137 Nevershadow
138 Avina
139 Great White Sharks
140 Starving Children
141 Jay Cutter
142 Tiburon
143 Vegemite
144 Nova Polonia
145 Futililia
146 Tintinnabulation
147 La Darien
148 Porvoo
149 Lomina
150 BK_Samurai
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Weird, oh well.

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Rk Name
36 Jacktazea
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Jackteaza qualified.

Posit: several people have entered puppets.

Posit: sentient vegetables are permitted to enter.

Posit: genetic enhancements can lead to sentience.

Logical conclusion: the Free Land of Evisceratomatoes will enter World Cup 9. Unless y'all think the joke is getting old.

Oh no.

I'd love to see giant eviceratomatoes running around playing futebol.

Boy, I better start the "World Cup 9 Will Not Eat Sentinent Evisceratomatoes" petition now :wink:

*starts screening "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" prior to all WC matches...* 8)

Posit: several people have entered puppets.

Posit: sentient vegetables are permitted to enter.

Posit: genetic enhancements can lead to sentience.

Logical conclusion: the Free Land of Evisceratomatoes will enter World Cup 9. Unless y'all think the joke is getting old.
*the minister of athletics, olympics, and alcoholic beverages reads the press release regarding the entry of the free land of evisceratomatoes into world cup 9. he pictures a match between this new nation of sentient vegetation and our hooligans. after wondering for a moment how sentient vegetation will move about the pitch, he catches himself. giant zucchini has solved this problem for sentient vegetation everywhere. then, he remembers "the eauzian pelting incident"*

- Margaret!!
- What now?
- A press release!! From "The Free Land of Evisceratomatoes"!!
- The what?
- The Free Land of Evisceratomatoes.
- Gad! They go to far!
- What are we going to do? If sentient evisceratomatoes take the field against the Hooligans...
- It won't be good for either side.
- They'll explode as soon as they get near one of us.
- Then what? Yellow Card for the now deceased evisceratomato? Red Card for the smeared and splattered Hooligan that caused it?
- ...how...
- Get Onestone over at the Academy of Science on the phone. He's got a couple of years to come up with something before qualifying starts for WC9. They're gonna need all the time they can get.

OOC: LOL Snub, some sort of spray that makes SN38 citizens seem like Brazillicans, or something? :wink:

*runs in, crashing through several doors and WC employees*
*breathing heavily*
Am I too late?
*collapses*

Me please

Current Rank: 34, I believe, of course it's marked to change since I just got knocked out of WC8

If my count is correct, there are 74 nations signed up. The three way bid calls for 75, 80 or 90 qualifiers.
75 nations = 15G*5 top placed team per group plus all the second placed except the weakest second placed team. = 32
80: 20G*4 top two per group + best third place = 24
4G*6 top four per group = 16
90: similar to 75 nations

Round of 32/24:
75/90 nations (Rd of 32): 8G*4 let in top two per group = 16
80 nations (Rd of 24): stated above

[code:1:a66bf02201]Round of 16:
75/90 nations: 80 nations:
1st A-2nd E 1st A-3rd B
2nd A-1st E 2nd A-4th B
1st B-2nd F 1st B-3rd A
2nd B-1st F 2nd B-4th A
1st C-2nd G 1st C-3rd D
2nd C-1st G 2nd C-4th D
1st D-2nd F 1st D-3rd C
2nd D-1st F 2nd D-4th C[/code:1:a66bf02201]

And Quarter Finals onward as usual

If my count is correct, there are 74 nations signed up. The three way bid calls for 75, 80 or 90 qualifiers.
75 nations = 15G*5 top placed team per group plus all the second placed except the weakest second placed team. = 32
80: 20G*4 top two per group + best third place = 41???
4G*6 top four per group = 16
90: similar to 75 nations

Round of 32/24:
75/90 nations (Rd of 32): 8G*4 let in top two per group = 16
80 nations (Rd of 24): stated above

[code:1:76c4cc8c74]Round of 16:
75/90 nations: 80 nations:
1st A-2nd E 1st A-3rd B
2nd A-1st E 2nd A-4th B
1st B-2nd F 1st B-3rd A
2nd B-1st F 2nd B-4th A
1st C-2nd G 1st C-3rd D
2nd C-1st G 2nd C-4th D
1st D-2nd F 1st D-3rd C
2nd D-1st F 2nd D-4th C
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And Quarter Finals onward as usual
If we get hostin this is what I would suggest.

Messa tinks 74 should be allowed in (not including TBF, LE and KP)
Random nation out of KP, LE and TBF has to qualify
15 groups of 5, top 2 go through.
Simple.

74? Okay who did I miss now?

74? Okay who did I miss now?
I was only suggesting the amount of teams you should allow. And sign up Voyger for me, he is on holiday at de mo. He will sign up officially on Tues. Hopefully.

If my count is correct, there are 74 nations signed up.

74? Okay who did I miss now?
I was only suggesting the amount of teams you should allow.

If my count is correct, there are 74 nations signed up.

74? Okay who did I miss now?
I was only suggesting the amount of teams you should allow.
ahhh..... didn't see Livy's post.

If my count is correct, there are 74 nations signed up. The three way bid calls for 75, 80 or 90 qualifiers.
...
80: 20G*4 top two per group + best third place = 24
4G*6 top four per group = 16
...

your solution above will produce 44 teams, shouldnt it be:
80: 20G*4 top per group + best third place + 3 hosts = 24
4G*6 top four per group = 16

There are 74 by my count... not sure who's missing.

Of course, that 74 includes the people who've bid to host, so we've actually got only 71 or 72 qualifiers, depending on who's hosting.

I'd prefer to have 80 qualifiers, as I stated earlier; that'd mean 8 open slots, if EB and I are hosting.

I've decided to support whoever wants 75. :)

I've decided to support whoever wants 75. :)

If I host, i'll have 75 qualifiers! :wink:

Is it to late to sign up to host?

For one, no
But, it is highly unlikely. Most teams putting in hosting bids are regulars.
And TnUI we'll use 75!!!

I've decided to support whoever wants 75. :)
75
Let's see.

15 groups of 5
Top man in each group as do all the 2nd teams bar the one with the lowest score.

I've decided to support whoever wants 75. :)

If I host, i'll have 75 qualifiers! :wink:

If I host, I'll have 80. But I'll do the tables myself. 8)

I've decided to support whoever wants 75. :)

If I host, i'll have 75 qualifiers! :wink:

If I host, I'll have 80. But I'll do the tables myself. 8)

I hope you're better at table making than I am :wink:

I'm sure 10 or 12 people will tell me all about the mistakes. 8)

Seriously, though, I think it should be possible to more or less automate it. Might need separate formatting, but I've got the time for that, and it only needs doing once, really...

Kaze Progressa suggest the following (we mighta said this already):

81 teams of which three are KP, TBF and LE, the hosts.

Remaining 78 teams: 13 groups of 6. Top two from each group go through by right. Top six third-placed sides meet in two-legged playoffs, winners take the final three spots.

Is it to late to sign up to host?

I think I'll only put serious bids from now on.

HEY! I am insulted! Aww never mind.

if this is open ot anyone who is interesting, I'll sign up.

The small, unranked, and generally devoid of experience squad of rabble-rousers from the Empire of Tranqullitis would like to enter the mix. The official Ministry of Sporting Events released a statement saying that it's better to get involved and thrashed now than later.

Did I completely miss some qualifying or did I just get left off the list?

SI

Did I completely miss some qualifying or did I just get left off the list?

SI

You are on the list.

HEY! I am insulted! Aww never mind.

I've still got it.

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Ranking P W D L F A GD Pts
Liverpool England (28) 3 2 1 0 6 2 +4 7
Ravenspire (29) 3 2 1 0 7 4 +3 7
Haraki (22) 3 2 1 0 6 3 +3 7
Timway (31) 3 2 1 0 5 2 +3 7
Runaway Moose (4) 3 2 1 0 4 1 +3 7
Oglethorpia (23) 3 2 1 0 5 3 +2 7
Bedistan (5) 3 2 0 1 6 3 +3 6
Oddslavo (35) 3 2 0 1 4 2 +2 6
Giant Zucchini (21) 3 2 0 1 7 6 +1 6
Lemmitania (20) 3 2 0 1 3 4 -1 6
Europa Brittania (28) 3 1 2 0 6 5 +1 5
The Belmore Family (15) 3 1 2 0 6 5 +1 5
Halfassedstates (8) 3 1 2 0 4 3 +1 5
Busby (14) 3 1 1 1 8 4 +4 4
Gilmeecia (46) 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 4
Errinundera (1) 3 1 1 1 6 7 -1 4
Svecia (2) 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
Audioslavia (13) 3 1 0 2 6 6 0 3
Ariddia (6) 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3
Gesamtkuntswerk (38) 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
Snub Nose 38 (10) 3 1 0 2 4 5 -1 3
Dennisov (18) 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
Commerce Heights (54) 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
Spaam (3) 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2
Squornshelous (12) 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
Antaeus Rising (53) 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
Bullonien (65) 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
Kingsford (30) 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2
One Red Dot (16) 3 0 1 2 5 7 -2 1
The Lowland Clans (34) 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
Demonic Beings (47) 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
Jacktazea (50) 3 0 1 2 2 7 -5 1
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Did I completely miss some qualifying or did I just get left off the list?

SI

You are on the list.

Oops- completely misunderstood. Didn't realize the list was broken into a couple of pieces.

SI

If I may put in my 2 cents: we limit the total amount of puppets + main nations to be entered into the Cup by a single indivudual to two nations.

I don't know if anyone's ever entered two puppets + his main nation, but let's stop it from ever happening :wink:

No, puppets should be totally banned, man-- no, er, um... I mean, yo, puppets are tha bomb. Only puppets should be allowed in.

Here are some puppets I'm considering founding, to enter in the Cup:

Puppetmeecia
Puppelmanster
Pooplemoosica
Pampelmowse
Wapoostica

And I'd say the original Master of Puppets, Metallica, but someone's prolly already used that name.

End of Kikere play, crumbling away
I'm your source of self-destruction....

And I'd say the original Master of Puppets, Metallica, but someone's prolly already used that name.

End of Kikere play, crumbling away
I'm your source of self-destruction....

Heheh. Good 'ol Metallica.

Gil/Lemm/DA, I challenge your Lemmitanian team to fit in as many musical references as possible.

Joe Lally of Fugazi is a good start :wink:

I propose that the WCC meet sometime soon to decide the host of WC 9.

I propose that the WCC meet sometime soon to decide the host of WC 9.

OMG, TBF hafd a good idea! The world is ending, the world is ending!!!

I await TnUI's shoot-down of the Nikean ranking system.

I like the system, nice and easy :roll:

:lol:

Like the new ranking system idea too. More fair to those that really got screwed by a few bad games, like Quohog.

Gil/Lemm/DA, I challenge your Lemmitanian team to fit in as many musical references as possible.

I could simply name all the players after musicians-- Audioslavia did that for a while. Lessee, I think I'd go with Mel Collins, Bill Bruford, Peter Sinfield (not technically a musician, perhaps), Toyah Wilcox, Trey Gunn, John Wetton, Sara Lee, Boz Burrell, David Cross, Pat Mastellotto, and Greg Lake. Coached by Robert Fripp, of course.

Joe Lally of Fugazi is a good start :wink:

Dude, you gave away who Joe Lally is. Now you'll have to be killed.