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Why space tech shouldn't/should be ignored - Page 2

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Stromata
01-11-2003, 05:30
I've got nothing against space tech, but HOUNDs are completely absurd. Ortillery is likewise [in my opinion] for people with no sense of tactics. Hammering at someone from 20 miles up is no honorable way to win a war.

I posted a thread some time ago about how all nuclear weapons in AMF were to be destroyed, including HOUNDS.


But my main beef with space nations is the fact that it's impossible for me to get to most of them at the moment. Luckily, my Third Generation Fleets will have FTL.. but no one knows that yet :twisted:

I "left Earth" so I wouldn't have to deal with 1 week old nations launching nookZ at me. It's worked wonders for my sanity. :P

Me 2
01-11-2003, 05:57
And this doesnt even begin to address my point of realistic versus magical technology. Even if there is another intelligent species, it will not have cold plasma/FTL/femto-machines, or any of the other magical technology that many spacetech people use. Ie, even if 2 did exist, we'd probably never contact them (especially since much of the universe is unknowable to us because it is expanding away from us faster than c).

The fact that the universe expands away from us faster than c violates relativity, doesn't it?

No, matter cannot travel faster than c. Space-time is entirely different. Space-time can travel as fast as it wants.

Alternatively, it may just be expanding away from us at c. Regardless, there are parts of the universe we will never see from earth because the light from them will never get here. Read Stephen Hawking already.
Dyelli Beybi
03-11-2003, 01:16
Well if say you're on a system thats moving at c away from the centre and there's another system on the other side moving at c away from the centre, then from the point of view of the first system the second system is moving away from it at 2c.
imported_Riorghbhardain
03-11-2003, 08:44
Well if say you're on a system thats moving at c away from the centre and there's another system on the other side moving at c away from the centre, then from the point of view of the first system the second system is moving away from it at 2c.

Which means going over light speed is just relative to another point and direction, and space-time has to follow the rules just like the rest of us? Wow!
03-11-2003, 09:34
I ignore Impossible technology.
03-11-2003, 19:51
Well if say you're on a system thats moving at c away from the centre and there's another system on the other side moving at c away from the centre, then from the point of view of the first system the second system is moving away from it at 2c.

Which means going over light speed is just relative to another point and direction, and space-time has to follow the rules just like the rest of us? Wow!

Space-time has no mass, so it follows the same rules, but isn't restricted to the same constraints. The physics behind it will take much too long to explain right now... read Hawking already.

Even if we accept that spacetime is restricted to c (ie, behaves as if it has mass), if two galaxies are moving apart from each other at c, then they will never be able to communicate with each other. Ie, even the fastest communications they could send would never make it, because the communication would remain at constant distance from the other galaxy.
Taka
03-11-2003, 19:53
Impossible technology is Godmod technology, most space nations use improbable technology at best. I theory, it works, we don't know how, but it doesn't violate most laws of physics. I tend to ignore godmodders, reguardless of technology level, if you rush at me with more tanks than you hve people, you are getting ignored, if you rush at me with a space armada to rival mine and you have 5 million people, you are getting ignored. I belive more in balance than probability, like I've said before, its all about having fun.