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East Spaam
14-09-2003, 16:19
1) I was already on probation.

2) I've 10 posts :P
Total n Utter Insanity
14-09-2003, 16:20
Yeah, but none are meaningful.
East Spaam
14-09-2003, 16:21
Meaingful? I've made helpful suggestions, and I've been trying to stop a bully. You're just jealous ;)

EDIT: Oh, and Parthenon is NOT Intergalactic Hell. What a liar....
Lemmitania
15-09-2003, 00:31
i have been in it before

this is intergallactic hell

To which I say: WTF?

You can't post "add me to the list" as Parthenon and expect Intergallactic Hell, whoever that is, to be added. For the record, I have no knowledge of either Parthenon or Intergalactic Hell. I do recall both nations posting in the World Cup 7 thread to the effect that, "Woo hoo, IH won." And that's about it.

Now... for what I'm really posting about. I completely agree that nations who have only one post ever should be palced on probation. In fact, i'd take it a step further. Any nation that fails to comment on any matches in any way should be barred from future Cups.

Now, I don't want to take that so far as to say that you have to "RP" matches. Just posting to let people know that you're paying attention to the tournament and care aboutthe results is enough. After all, I didn't RP any matches in World Cup 3. But I did take the time to comment on the nation's reaction to the team's performance.

Finally, I've been giving some thought to something Spaam said about nations with poor offensive/defensive histories needing to improve those, and I'm thinking that, in the event that future hosts use a formula (such as the current one) that takes into account offense and defense, it might be a nice idea to improve the offensive and defensive scores of teams that RP their matches. I'm not sure how that would work, what kind of a scale would be employed, or anything like that. I'm just floating the idea. It would be a possible way to finally at long last do what many people have suggested, and reward those who take the time to be involved in the game.
Total n Utter Insanity
15-09-2003, 00:51
I don't think Parthenon wants Intergallactic Hell in, tho I could be wrong. I thought he was just saying this isn't his first cup.

Anyway, more importantly I think the WCC should get together on IRC to decide who is hosting WC8, what do you think?
Bedistan
15-09-2003, 00:59
*sticks nose in*

I agree, the WCC needs to come to a decision. :P

*pulls nose back out*
Total n Utter Insanity
15-09-2003, 01:24
irc.esper.net
6667
#WCC
Lemmitania
15-09-2003, 02:24
Am I considered a member of WCC yet? I've been unsure, seeing as I wasn't th'official host of WC6.
Lemmitania
15-09-2003, 02:24
Am I considered a member of WCC yet? I've been unsure, seeing as I wasn't th'official host of WC6.
Snub Nose 38
15-09-2003, 02:37
Am I considered a member of WCC yet? I've been unsure, seeing as I wasn't th'official host of WC6.
Well, I think your in.

Both times.

*takes cue from bedistan, and also pulls nose out. (it's just a snub nose, tho)*
Oglethorpia
15-09-2003, 02:38
Am I considered a member of WCC yet? I've been unsure, seeing as I wasn't th'official host of WC6.

Kingsford's vote should only count for 23% since that's the amount of time he seemed to host.
Tanah Burung
15-09-2003, 02:40
Lemmy, i was voting for the WC6 host at the same time as hosting WC5, so seems like you should be now.

IRC? What that?
Lemmitania
15-09-2003, 02:41
Hmm. Well, as re: IRC, I'm a nooB. But I just gave it a shot and received a "You are not allowed to be on #WCC" message. So what's that mean?
Lemmitania
15-09-2003, 02:47
IRC? What that?

That stands for Infra-Red Communication. We're gonna all talk through the IR ports in our necks.

You have one, right?

If not, you can use your TV remote, it works by IR too. Just point it at the wall socket, punch in 6667 and then shout "#WCC!" at the top of your lungs. We'll all be connected up to your brain for high-speed chatting.

Barring that, I'm under the impression that esper.net has a web interface of some sort, if you don't have an IRC client.
Oglethorpia
15-09-2003, 02:49
IRC? What that?

That stands for Infra-Red Communication. We're gonna all talk through the IR ports in our necks.

You have one, right?

If not, you can use your TV remote, it works by IR too. Just point it at the wall socket, punch in 6667 and then shout "#WCC!" at the top of your lungs. We'll all be connected up to your brain for high-speed chatting.

Barring that, I'm under the impression that esper.net has a web interface of some sort, if you don't have an IRC client.

Haha, i'm going to try that.

#WCC!
Lemmitania
15-09-2003, 02:56
Well, my wife who knows a thing or two about IRC gave it a shot, and we got the same message. TnUI, did you make the channel invite-only, or something?
Lemmitania
15-09-2003, 03:17
It just occurred to me it's like 3am where TnUI is. I won't expect a reply tonight.
Kingsford
15-09-2003, 03:25
Am I considered a member of WCC yet? I've been unsure, seeing as I wasn't th'official host of WC6.

Kingsford's vote should only count for 23% since that's the amount of time he seemed to host.

Wow, I actually get a vote? Coolness. If anyone wants to know what it is for the host, tell me and I'll Telegram it to you.
Tanah Burung
15-09-2003, 03:26
Nope, can't find the channel. Will try again in the morning (Eastern Time). G'nite, dear hearts (as they don't say in Audioslavia).
Total n Utter Insanity
15-09-2003, 11:40
It just occurred to me it's like 3am where TnUI is. I won't expect a reply tonight.

Good thinking. Yeah I set everything on. I think you can only get there if your nick is registered. I need someone to test it out tho.

EDIT: Nope I put the wrong command on, should work fine now.
Giant Zucchini
15-09-2003, 14:20
Maybe

[code:1:80de280368]
Name P W D L F A GD Pts
Ariddia 1 1 0 0 4 0 +4 3
Dark Outcasts 1 1 0 0 3 0 +3 3
Snub Nose 38 1 1 0 0 3 0 +3 3
Spaam 1 1 0 0 3 1 +2 3
Squornshelous 1 1 0 0 3 1 +2 3
Busby 1 1 0 0 2 0 +2 3
Malundar 1 1 0 0 4 3 +1 3
The Belmore Family 1 1 0 0 4 3 +1 3
Dennisov 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
Giant Zucchini 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
Haraki 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
Kingsford 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Liverpool England 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
One Red Dot 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Pure Evil 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Quohog 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Runaway Moose 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Tanah Burung 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Total n Utter Insanity 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
Bedistan 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
Errinundera 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
Audioslavia 1 0 0 1 3 4 -1 0
Lemmitania 1 0 0 1 3 4 -1 0
Svecia 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Halfassedstates 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Lunatic Goofballs 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
Europa Brittania 1 0 0 1 1 3 -2 0
Timway 1 0 0 1 1 3 -2 0
Oglethorpia 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0
Akbarland 1 0 0 1 0 3 -3 0
Ravenspire 1 0 0 1 0 3 -3 0
Nonexistentcitygrad 1 0 0 1 0 4 -4 0
[/code:1:80de280368]

What's that? Is it for the rankings?

(P.S.: This post is just to get me out of the probation list...)
Snub Nose 38
15-09-2003, 15:06
Maybe

[code:1:93e50b4c01]
Name P W D L F A GD Pts
(in here was data about rankings after 1 match)[/code:1:93e50b4c01]
What's that? Is it for the rankings?

(P.S.: This post is just to get me out of the probation list...)
It has to be a meaningful post :wink:
One Red Dot
15-09-2003, 15:09
Maybe

[code:1:b184f7dc2a]
Name P W D L F A GD Pts...
[/code:1:b184f7dc2a]

What's that? Is it for the rankings?

(P.S.: This post is just to get me out of the probation list...)

This is the results after Group Stage Day 1...
Snub Nose 38
15-09-2003, 15:17
The Minister of Statistics, Other Totally Useless Information, and Band Aids provides the following information, in the hope of preventing the Borderlands of Snub Nose 38 from being put on probation. The chart was stolen from the TnUI sports statisticians, and the Minister added the "rank" in parenthesis ( ). This post is, in keeping with the ministry's mission, basically useless. Enjoy. :D
[code:1:31b7e80fa2]
Rank Name P W D L F A GD Pts
(1) Ariddia 1 1 0 0 4 0 +4 3
(2t) Dark Outcasts 1 1 0 0 3 0 +3 3
(2t) Snub Nose 38 1 1 0 0 3 0 +3 3
(4t) Spaam 1 1 0 0 3 1 +2 3
(4t) Squornshelous 1 1 0 0 3 1 +2 3
(5) Busby 1 1 0 0 2 0 +2 3
(7t) Malundar 1 1 0 0 4 3 +1 3
(7t) The Belmore Family 1 1 0 0 4 3 +1 3
(9t) Dennisov 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
(9t) Giant Zucchini 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
(9t) Haraki 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
(12t)Kingsford 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
(12t)Liverpool England 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
(12t)One Red Dot 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
(12t)Pure Evil 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
(12t)Quohog 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
(12t)Runaway Moose 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
(12t)Tanah Burung 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
(12t)Total n Utter Insanity 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1
(20t)Bedistan 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
(20t)Errinundera 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
(22t)Audioslavia 1 0 0 1 3 4 -1 0
(22t)Lemmitania 1 0 0 1 3 4 -1 0
(24t)Svecia 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
(24t)Halfassedstates 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
(24t)Lunatic Goofballs 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
(27t)Europa Brittania 1 0 0 1 1 3 -2 0
(27t)Timway 1 0 0 1 1 3 -2 0
(29) Oglethorpia 1 0 0 1 0 2 -2 0
(30t)Akbarland 1 0 0 1 0 3 -3 0
(30t)Ravenspire 1 0 0 1 0 3 -3 0
(32) Nonexistentcitygrad 1 0 0 1 0 4 -4 0
[/code:1:31b7e80fa2]

With rank (after one whole match) added :roll:
One Red Dot
15-09-2003, 16:12
The One Red Dot Ministry of Endless Remarks and Useless Information aka ORDMERUI has provided the international sports fraternity with some facts and statistics.

8 nations from WC6 top 32 did not make it this year. 7 nations did not join WC7 and 1 nation did not make the mark. 1 non-seeded team has made the top 32.

Only 3 nations have played all 7WCs. They are EB, Arridia and GZ. However, only EB and Arridia have never failed to qualify for the top 32.

26 of the original 32 in WC1 did not play in WC7. What happened to them? Has the Curse of the Cup become the Curse of the Pioneers?

Altogether, there are 14 nations that start with "The". Only 6 of the 14 have participated in WC7.

There is only one nation that have participated in the World Cup that starts with "_".

Giant Zucchini is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "G" in WC1.
ILO is the first nation that entered the World Cup that started with "I" in WC3.
Kokottland is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "K" in WC1.
Moyk is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "M" in WC2.
Paulinland is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "P" in WC1.
Quohog is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "Q" in WC1. Only two nations that have participated in the World Cup start with "Q".
Rotenfield is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "R" in WC2.
Slutania is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "S" in WC1.
Utter Boredom is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "U" in WC2 and is by far the ONLY nation that has participated in the World Cup that starts with "U".
Vortexicca is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "V" in WC2.
Western-Flanders is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "W" in WC3.
Xerlox is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "X" in WC3 and is the ONLY nation that has participated in the World Cup to start with "X".
Yatsumica is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "Y" in WC7 and is the ONLY nation that has participated in the World Cup to start with "Y".
Ziotah is the first nation in the World Cup that started with "Z" in WC1.

Only 4 nations that have participated in the world cup start with directional cardinals. So far no nation that have participated in the WC start with "South".

Only 2 nations feature a "_" in their nation name.

Only 3 nations have all-capitals in their nation name.

Chakra holds the honour for the highest jump in seed. From 70 in WC5 to 10 in WC6. That's 60 places!!!

Brazillico is the only nation to hold two 1st places. Consecutively.

One Red Dot is the only nation who has passed the qualifiers but got no further than the Group Stage 3 times in a row since WC4.

Muchoflipflopcramshlam has the longest name at 22 letters. (spaces not counted)

--Edited to correct mistake--
Snub Nose 38
15-09-2003, 16:54
The Morning Scuttlebutt

Minister Hospitalized
Sten, Snub Nose 38

Upon learning of the existance of The One Red Dot Ministry of Endless Remarks and Useless Information (aka ORDMERUI), the Minister of Statistics, Other Useless Information, and Band Aids for the Borderlands of Snub Nose 38 cried out "Hark!! A Brother Ministry!! Oh, frabjous day!! Callou, Callay!!", and chortled in his joy.

He then collapsed into a coma, and was rushed to Saint Swithens Hospital. An arguement developed over whether he should be in the Intensive Stupidity Ward, the Unattributed Quote Followed by Coma Ward, or a private room. The Minister of Health, Mining, and Obscure Rituals was called in to arbitrate the dispute, and decided on the Unattributed Quote Followed by Coma Ward.

At this point, it was noticed that during the arguement the Minister of Statistics, Other Totally Useless Information, and Band Aids had stopped breathing. He was quickly resuscitated. The Ministers' brain was deprived of oxygen for a lengthy period. While normally this would be a cause for concern, given the ministers job, the medical staff felt there was no need to worry.
-------------------------
ooc: for those who read this before the edit, i have no clue how one collapses into a comma.
Total n Utter Insanity
15-09-2003, 17:20
Only 5 nations have played all 7WCs. They are Quohog, EB, Dyelli Bebbi, Arridia and GZ.

Dyelli Beybi missed WC6
Quohog missed WC4
Total n Utter Insanity
15-09-2003, 18:49
I'm probably gonna be on IRC for the next couple of hours.
Lemmitania
15-09-2003, 18:57
I'm probably gonna be on IRC for the next couple of hours.

I'll be happy to go on IRC this evening (my time). But I can't swing it during the work day, today. Too many nuts to gather.
Total n Utter Insanity
15-09-2003, 18:58
Did you think of going to the store and buying your nuts?
Lemmitania
16-09-2003, 02:08
Did you think of going to the store and buying your nuts?

We don't have stores in New York City. And if we did, they wouldn't cater to squirrels.
Audioslavia
16-09-2003, 03:04
Did you think of going to the store and buying your nuts?

We don't have stores in New York City. And if we did, they wouldn't cater to squirrels.

typical americans, only thinking about their own culture....
16-09-2003, 15:32
The joint bid by Errinundera and The Belmore Family is odd to say the least. We are as different as... well, chalk and cheese. If we win the right to co-host World Cup 8 together I would like to suggest that the competitors be organised according to their nation's compassion rating.

Yes, empathetic nations will be in one half the group of qualifiers and pragmatic nations in the other half. The top 16 empaths will hold their Cup rounds in Errinundera and the the top 16 pragmats will have theirs in The Belmore Family.

The top 40 empaths entered so far:

1 Dennisov 41
2 Busby 85
3 Zeronia 258
4 LordSquall 315
5 Eauz 644
6 Total n Utter Insanity 708
7 Ineptia 843
8 Zinkoland 1352
9 Antaeus Rising 1425
10 Kingsford 1626
11 Svecia 1815
12 Spaam 2359
13 Giant Zucchini 2383
14 Kaze Progressa 2477
15 Errinundera 2757
16 Lemmitania 3455
17 Liverpool England 4108
18 Alasdair I Frosticus 4275
19 Simba Polo 4279
20 Ariddia 4396
21 BlackEagle Corporation 4977
22 One Red Dot 5122
23 The Lowland Clans 5944
24 Jadonopolos 6350
25 Haraki 6490
26 Pure Evil 7475
27 Keyshona 8002
28 The Weegies 9373
29 Akbarland 11174
30 Tanah Burung 11486
31 Bullonien 12581
32 Snub Nose 38 12605
33 Bardai 12842
34 Defari 13312
35 Endray-Island 13677
36 Carasek 16198
37 New Pavesia 17474
38 Nadaskor 17475
39 Pavesia 17773
40 Jekonuam 19081

The top 40 pragmats:

1 Quohog 73635
2 Jangle Jangle Ridge 72736
3 Ravenspire 72218
4 Halfassedstates 71766
5 Squornshelous 71627
6 Aquilla 71349
7 Commerce Heights 70937
8 Bedistan 68629
9 Audioslavia 68507
10 The Belmore Family 68329
11 Parthenon 68178
12 Alhana Catherine 66955
13 Dark Outcasts 66937
14 Europa Brittania 66356
15 Gilmeecia 64227
16 Gesamtkuntswerk 64042
17 WNA 63606
18 Demonic Beings 63479
19 Australian Marsupials 62708
20 Rave Shentavo 62004
21 Jacktazea 61963
22 Mezitzia 60090
23 Nikea 58676
24 Oglethorpia 58037
25 Chronos Prime 53091
26 West Ariddia 52778
27 God Squad 52602
28 N S A 50762
29 Sazland 49605
30 Yentrofinova 48019
31 Northern Kings 47758
32 Timway 47755
33 Runaway Moose 47675
34 East Spaam 43786
35 Oddslavo 41902
36 Neolithica 39428
37 Sliponia 32946
38 Male 18 31384
39 Slops Pit 24998
40 Agnosticium 19335

The number after the nation's name is their rating for the world's most compassionate citizens.

Errinundera will donate all profits from television rights to NationStates famine relief.
16-09-2003, 15:48
Count in Consumer Engineering - we are Pragmats and proud of it.
16-09-2003, 15:53
Our region founder has recommended we apply. So here we are!
Spaam
16-09-2003, 16:00
Curious.... are you two puppets of Errinundera? :P

Not including the two that have just posted, these nations are on probation:

Endray-Island
Jadonopolos
N S A
Simba Polo
Slops Pit
16-09-2003, 16:06
With the last 2 entries we now have a full house of Good Guys and Bad Guys:

The Empaths

1 Dennisov 41
2 Busby 85
3 Zeronia 258
4 LordSquall 315
5 Eauz 644
6 Total n Utter Insanity 708
7 Ineptia 843
8 Zinkoland 1352
9 Antaeus Rising 1425
10 Kingsford 1626
11 Svecia 1815
12 Spaam 2359
13 Giant Zucchini 2383
14 Kaze Progressa 2477
15 Errinundera 2757
16 Lemmitania 3455
17 Liverpool England 4108
18 Alasdair I Frosticus 4275
19 Simba Polo 4279
20 Ariddia 4396
21 BlackEagle Corporation 4977
22 One Red Dot 5122
23 The Lowland Clans 5944
24 Jadonopolos 6350
25 Haraki 6490
26 Pure Evil 7475
27 Keyshona 8002
28 The Weegies 9373
29 Akbarland 11174
30 Tanah Burung 11486
31 Bullonien 12581
32 Snub Nose 38 12605
33 Bardai 12842
34 Defari 13312
35 Endray-Island 13677
36 Carasek 16198
37 New Pavesia 17474
38 Nadaskor 17475
39 Pavesia 17773
40 Jekonuam 19081
41 Memeplex 19269

The Pragmats

1 Quohog 73635
2 Jangle Jangle Ridge 72736
3 Ravenspire 72218
4 Halfassedstates 71766
5 Squornshelous 71627
6 Aquilla 71349
7 Commerce Heights 70937
8 Bedistan 68629
9 Audioslavia 68507
10 The Belmore Family 68329
11 Parthenon 68178
12 Alhana Catherine 66955
13 Dark Outcasts 66937
14 Europa Brittania 66356
15 Gilmeecia 64227
16 Gesamtkuntswerk 64042
17 WNA 63606
18 Demonic Beings 63479
19 Australian Marsupials 62708
20 Rave Shentavo 62004
21 Jacktazea 61963
22 Mezitzia 60090
23 Nikea 58676
24 Oglethorpia 58037
25 Consumer Engineering 56143
26 Chronos Prime 53091
27 West Ariddia 52778
28 God Squad 52602
29 N S A 50762
30 Sazland 49605
31 Yentrofinova 48019
32 Northern Kings 47758
33 Timway 47755
34 Runaway Moose 47675
35 East Spaam 43786
36 Oddslavo 41902
37 Neolithica 39428
38 Sliponia 32946
39 Male 18 31384
40 Slops Pit 24998
41 Agnosticium 19335

Host nation to have like-minded nations in cup rounds.

Final to be decided.
16-09-2003, 16:13
Curious.... are you two puppets of Errinundera? :P

Handy the way they turned up right on cue, heh? 8)
Spaam
16-09-2003, 16:16
Very handy.... and considering we were overfull at 80, unlikely to get in :P

Oh that and they BOTH were in your region ;)
16-09-2003, 16:44
Looks like we miss out then.
:cry:
16-09-2003, 16:48
Before I go back to my hole.

The distribution of compassion is interesting.

Most compassionate citizens
1st 10 percentile: 25
2nd: 10
3rd: 7
4th: 1
5th: 2
6th: 3
7th: 6
8th: 6
9th: 9
10th: 13
Least compassionate citizens

Why do World Cup nations tend to come from the extremes of
NationStates?

I would have thought the distribution would be even.

Memeplex
Ideas Hanging Out Together
16-09-2003, 16:56
Very handy.... and considering we were overfull at 80, unlikely to get in :P

My maths is so bad:

1. I'm not sure I deserve to be entrusted with coming up with match results; and

2. I edited that last post to remove the shonky maths. :oops:
Spaam
16-09-2003, 16:58
Well, if the 5 on probation are kicked out, that'll leave us with 75, and since we need 77 for the Cup, the last two are more likely to get in. Of course, I'm not the ones making decisions :P
16-09-2003, 17:06
Actually, 82 is not so bad:

10 groups of 8 plus 2 hosts.
Top 3 of each group plus hosts proceed to WC8.
10*3+2=32.

That will make for a 14 round qualifying period. Could end being slow the way WC6 was. The hosts would have to be disciplined.
Spaam
16-09-2003, 17:43
Considering that I'm likely to the one keeping the tables and archives, I'd also prefer to have as few matches as possible.

15 groups of 5 gives us 240 matches (my proposed)
10 groups of 8 gives us 560 matches (your proposed)
15 groups of 6 gives us 450 matches (current situation)

Personally, I like mine better :P
One Red Dot
16-09-2003, 18:24
The Morning Scuttlebutt

Minister Hospitalized
Sten, Snub Nose 38

Upon learning of the existance of The One Red Dot Ministry of Endless Remarks and Useless Information (aka ORDMERUI), the Minister of Statistics, Other Useless Information, and Band Aids for the Borderlands of Snub Nose 38 cried out "Hark!! A Brother Ministry!! Oh, frabjous day!! Callou, Callay!!", and chortled in his joy.

He then collapsed into a coma, and was rushed to Saint Swithens Hospital. ... At this point, it was noticed that during the arguement the Minister of Statistics, Other Totally Useless Information, and Band Aids had stopped breathing. He was quickly resuscitated. The Ministers' brain was deprived of oxygen for a lengthy period. While normally this would be a cause for concern, given the ministers job, the medical staff felt there was no need to worry.


The ORDMERUI is sad to hear that their SN38 counterpart have been hospitalised. They also hope for a his speedy recovery. :wink:
Snub Nose 38
16-09-2003, 18:45
The Morning Scuttlebutt

Minister Hospitalized
Sten, Snub Nose 38

Upon learning of the existance of The One Red Dot Ministry of Endless Remarks and Useless Information (aka ORDMERUI), the Minister of Statistics, Other Useless Information, and Band Aids for the Borderlands of Snub Nose 38 cried out "Hark!! A Brother Ministry!! Oh, frabjous day!! Callou, Callay!!", and chortled in his joy.

He then collapsed into a coma, and was rushed to Saint Swithens Hospital. ... At this point, it was noticed that during the arguement the Minister of Statistics, Other Totally Useless Information, and Band Aids had stopped breathing. He was quickly resuscitated. The Ministers' brain was deprived of oxygen for a lengthy period. While normally this would be a cause for concern, given the ministers job, the medical staff felt there was no need to worry.


The ORDMERUI is sad to hear that their SN38 counterpart have been hospitalised. They also hope for a his speedy recovery. :wink:

The Morning Scuttlebutt

Minister Released From Hospital
Sten, Snub Nose 38

This morning the Snub Nose 38 Minister of Statistics, Other Totally Useless Information, and Band Aids, after a three day hospitalization, was discharged from the Unattributed Quote Followed by Coma Ward of Saint Swithens Hospital. The Ministry of Health, Mining, and Obscure Rituals released a statement to the press on the state of the Minister's health. It read, in part:

"The Minister of Statistics, Other Totally Useless Information, and Band Aids has fully recovered from his recent medical ordeal. He remained in a coma for only 23 hours, and has been under the careful observation of the medical staff at Saint Swithens for two days, during which time he did not manifest any ill effects that could be attributed to having been comatose for 23 hours. Further, it is the professional opinion of the permanent staff of the Unattributed Quote Followed by Coma Ward that the Minister did not suffer any permanent damage due to oxygen depravation."

When asked, the Minister had this to say about his own health:

"I got a pretty card from ORDMERUI! See! And I had apple sauce, and pudding - chocolate pudding. And my mommy came to see me yesterday. And now I'm getting a ride in a wheelchair!"

This reporter is satisfied that the Minister is fully recovered, and back to normal.
Lemmitania
16-09-2003, 19:12
Considering that I'm likely to the one keeping the tables and archives, I'd also prefer to have as few matches as possible.

15 groups of 5 gives us 240 matches (my proposed)
10 groups of 8 gives us 560 matches (your proposed)
15 groups of 6 gives us 450 matches (current situation)

Personally, I like mine better :P

You could let in 90 (same as current) and reduce the number of matches by doing 30 groups of 3, each group winner goes through. That's a mere 90 matches. The downside (or upside if you like some time between your matches) is that 1/3 of the teams would be sitting on each of the 6 match days.
Spaam
16-09-2003, 19:43
Considering that I'm likely to the one keeping the tables and archives, I'd also prefer to have as few matches as possible.

15 groups of 5 gives us 240 matches (my proposed)
10 groups of 8 gives us 560 matches (your proposed)
15 groups of 6 gives us 450 matches (current situation)

Personally, I like mine better :P

You could let in 90 (same as current) and reduce the number of matches by doing 30 groups of 3, each group winner goes through. That's a mere 90 matches. The downside (or upside if you like some time between your matches) is that 1/3 of the teams would be sitting on each of the 6 match days.

Well, there'd only be 4 match days.... And it makes 120 matches.
Problem with that is that its silly, cos there aren't 30 letters in the alphabet :P
Bedistan
16-09-2003, 20:02
Problem with that is that its silly, cos there aren't 30 letters in the alphabet :P

Of course, in qualifying, the groups are numbered, not lettered, so that's completely irrelevant. :P
Total n Utter Insanity
16-09-2003, 20:02
Actually Qualifying Groups are numbered, or should be.
Total n Utter Insanity
16-09-2003, 20:05
Okay here is what I say, all WCC members meet in #WCC at the weekend and decide who is gonna host. If you don't attend you don't get a vote, simple as that.
Snub Nose 38
16-09-2003, 20:34
Problem with that is that its silly, cos there aren't 30 letters in the alphabet :P

Of course, in qualifying, the groups are numbered, not lettered, so that's completely irrelevant. :P
The real problem with 30 groups of 3 for me is that doesn't provide for enough matches against a large enough group to constitute qualifying. That being said, since I'm not gonna host, or create formulas - them that do should make the decision. 8)
Total n Utter Insanity
16-09-2003, 21:12
[code:1:05efc892ca]
Name P W D L F A GD Pts
Ariddia 2 2 0 0 9 2 +7 6
Malundar 2 2 0 0 8 3 +5 6
Squornshelous 2 2 0 0 7 2 +5 6
Spaam 2 2 0 0 5 1 +4 6
Snub Nose 38 2 2 0 0 4 0 +4 6
Total n Utter Insanity 2 1 1 0 3 1 +2 4
One Red Dot 2 1 1 0 2 1 +1 4
Runaway Moose 2 1 1 0 2 1 +1 4
Errinundera 2 1 1 0 2 1 +1 4
Halfassedstates 2 1 0 1 5 2 +3 3
Svecia 2 1 0 1 4 2 +2 3
Audioslavia 2 1 0 1 6 5 +1 3
Lemmitania 2 1 0 1 6 5 +1 3
Dark Outcasts 2 1 0 1 5 4 +1 3
Haraki 2 1 0 1 3 3 0 3
Busby 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
Lunatic Goofballs 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
Akbarland 2 1 0 1 4 5 -1 3
Giant Zucchini 2 1 0 1 3 4 -1 3
The Belmore Family 2 1 0 1 4 6 -2 3
Dennisov 2 1 0 1 3 5 -2 3
Pure Evil 2 0 2 0 4 4 0 2
Quohog 2 0 2 0 4 4 0 2
Tanah Burung 2 0 1 1 1 2 -1 1
Bedistan 2 0 1 1 0 1 -1 1
Liverpool England 2 0 1 1 2 4 -2 1
Kingsford 2 0 1 1 1 5 -4 1
Oglethorpia 2 0 0 2 0 3 -3 0
Ravenspire 2 0 0 2 0 4 -4 0
Europa Brittania 2 0 0 2 3 8 -5 0
Timway 2 0 0 2 1 7 -6 0
Nonexistentcitygrad 2 0 0 2 0 6 -6 0
[/code:1:05efc892ca]
Total n Utter Insanity
16-09-2003, 21:15
Could someone do me a favour and run off 1,000 results between Ariddia and me. I wanna see how powerful his attack is.
Snub Nose 38
16-09-2003, 21:27
The Minister of Statistics, Other Totally Useless Information, and Band Aids once again provides the following information, just a little slower that the TnUI sports statisticians. But the Minister has added the "rank" in parenthesis ( ).

After 2 matches of group play completed

[code:1:e8ce8aeb47]
Rank Name P W D L F A GD Pts
(1) Ariddia 2 2 0 0 9 2 +7 6
(2) Malundar 2 2 0 0 8 3 +5 6
(3) Squornshelous 2 2 0 0 7 2 +5 6
(4) Spaam 2 2 0 0 5 1 +4 6
(5) Snub Nose 38 2 2 0 0 4 0 +4 6
(6) Total n Utter Insanity 2 1 1 0 3 1 +2 4
(7t) One Red Dot 2 1 1 0 2 1 +1 4
(7t) Runaway Moose 2 1 1 0 2 1 +1 4
(7t) Errinundera 2 1 1 0 2 1 +1 4
(10) Halfassedstates 2 1 0 1 5 2 +3 3
(11) Svecia 2 1 0 1 4 2 +2 3
(12t)Audioslavia 2 1 0 1 6 5 +1 3
(12t)Lemmitania 2 1 0 1 6 5 +1 3
(14) Dark Outcasts 2 1 0 1 5 4 +1 3
(15) Haraki 2 1 0 1 3 3 0 3
(16) Busby 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
(17) Lunatic Goofballs 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
(18) Akbarland 2 1 0 1 4 5 -1 3
(19) Giant Zucchini 2 1 0 1 3 4 -1 3
(20) The Belmore Family 2 1 0 1 4 6 -2 3
(21) Dennisov 2 1 0 1 3 5 -2 3
(22t)Pure Evil 2 0 2 0 4 4 0 2
(22t)Quohog 2 0 2 0 4 4 0 2
(24) Tanah Burung 2 0 1 1 1 2 -1 1
(25) Bedistan 2 0 1 1 0 1 -1 1
(26) Liverpool England 2 0 1 1 2 4 -2 1
(27) Kingsford 2 0 1 1 1 5 -4 1
(28) Oglethorpia 2 0 0 2 0 3 -3 0
(29) Ravenspire 2 0 0 2 0 4 -4 0
(30) Europa Brittania 2 0 0 2 3 8 -5 0
(31) Timway 2 0 0 1 1 7 -6 0
(32) Nonexistentcitygrad 2 0 0 2 0 6 -6 0
[/code:1:e8ce8aeb47]

This post is, in keeping with the ministry's mission, basically useless. Enjoy.

The Ministry DOES find it extremely interesting that in both this chart, and the chart provided after completion of one full matchday of group play, our two illustrious hosts have had exactly the same record and rank. hmmm... :wink:
--------------------------------------------
edit - for anyone who read this before the edit - TnUI statisticians had the order correct, the SN38 ministry of statistics, other totally useless information, and band aids had some wrong. the edit fixes that. the statisticians responsible for this error, along with their families, their high school math teachers, and their green grocers, have been exiled.
Total n Utter Insanity
16-09-2003, 23:45
IRC nearly turns into a bloodbath. TnUI disappointed full scale hostilities didn't ensue

Getting together AS, K and Ogle was a recipe for disaster, shame they didn't kill each other so I could win the WC said TnUIs Player.
17-09-2003, 00:15
Not including the two that have just posted, these nations are on probation:

Endray-Island
...

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

Every single player of our team is extremely motivated and convinced that we'll win the world cup.
I don't know why but probably this is a result of a statement from the government which says that our half team will be hang up after the world cup if we lose. :twisted:
And if we don't play it's even worse: In this case our whole team must die. So please give us as a chance and save the lives of our players by letting us play and win!!!
17-09-2003, 11:17
BUMP
Dark Outcasts
17-09-2003, 12:35
*laughs at ur name but hopes u don't take offence* :lol:
Giant Zucchini
17-09-2003, 13:50
Maybe

[code:1:1c053279fb]
Name P W D L F A GD Pts
(in here was data about rankings after 1 match)[/code:1:1c053279fb]
What's that? Is it for the rankings?

(P.S.: This post is just to get me out of the probation list...)
It has to be a meaningful post :wink:

You are all under the influence of the Giant Zucchini Hypnotism Society. You will listen and believe everything I say from this point. Now, repeat after me. This is a MEANINGFUL post. Now repeat it again. Now, repeat it at half-speed. Now repeat it while contorting your upper lip and effecting a Southern drawl (or a Norwegian accent if you already have a Southern drawl). GOOOOD dog. Yippie, now I'm out of probation...
Snub Nose 38
17-09-2003, 14:07
Maybe
[code:1:97bb9e9398]
Name P W D L F A GD Pts
(in here was data about rankings after 1 match)[/code:1:97bb9e9398]
What's that? Is it for the rankings?
(P.S.: This post is just to get me out of the probation list...)
It has to be a meaningful post :wink:
You are all under the influence of the Giant Zucchini Hypnotism Society. You will listen and believe everything I say from this point. Now, repeat after me. This is a MEANINGFUL post. Now repeat it again. Now, repeat it at half-speed. Now repeat it while contorting your upper lip and effecting a Southern drawl (or a Norwegian accent if you already have a Southern drawl). GOOOOD dog. Yippie, now I'm out of probation...
*we are walking down west remington street in sten, the capital of snub nose 38. the minister of statistics, other totally useless information, and band aids walks by going the other way. he looks a little stunned - but then, he ususally does. we overhear him - oddly, he seems to be speaking in a southern drawl.*

- This heyah is a meanin' ful post, y'all.

- This heyah is a meanin' ful post, y'all.

- This heyah is a meanin' ful post, y'all.
:wink:
Tanah Burung
17-09-2003, 16:40
Everything Giant Zucchini says is meaningful.

"GZ is good, GZ is great, I surrender my will, as of this date."

Urk is still a young man. :wink:
Lemmitania
17-09-2003, 16:57
Could someone do me a favour and run off 1,000 results between Ariddia and me. I wanna see how powerful his attack is.

I will gladly do it tomorrow morning. I have a spreadsheet set up for just that purpose. But I'm out of the office today.
Lemmitania
17-09-2003, 17:00
IRC nearly turns into a bloodbath. TnUI disappointed full scale hostilities didn't ensue

Getting together AS, K and Ogle was a recipe for disaster, shame they didn't kill each other so I could win the WC said TnUIs Player.

Damn. I'm sorry I wasn't there.
Lemmitania
17-09-2003, 17:02
Okay here is what I say, all WCC members meet in #WCC at the weekend and decide who is gonna host. If you don't attend you don't get a vote, simple as that.

Set the date and time, I'll be there.
Total n Utter Insanity
17-09-2003, 20:20
I'm still keeping it as "sometime this weekend" till I can be sure we are gonna get most of the WCC there.
Tanah Burung
18-09-2003, 00:10
I'll try to get on IRC this weekend. If not, will send vote to Ariddia as normal.
Quohog
18-09-2003, 00:29
Only 5 nations have played all 7WCs. They are Quohog, EB, Dyelli Bebbi, Arridia and GZ.

Dyelli Beybi missed WC6
Quohog missed WC4

Well, to be fair, I was signed up for WCIV, but that was the one when there was some difficulty, and they did another sign-up. Since I signed up early, I never went back to check and therefore didn't realize that I wasn't signed up.

Now, for the more important thing, how did I manage to go through the group stage without a single win? I mean, wasn't I ranked first in the world? Who am I... France? Anyways, that will teach me for going on a trip during a world cup, it guaranteed my failure.
Snub Nose 38
18-09-2003, 00:56
Only 5 nations have played all 7WCs. They are Quohog, EB, Dyelli Bebbi, Arridia and GZ.

Dyelli Beybi missed WC6
Quohog missed WC4

Well, to be fair, I was signed up for WCIV, but that was the one when there was some difficulty, and they did another sign-up. Since I signed up early, I never went back to check and therefore didn't realize that I wasn't signed up.

Now, for the more important thing, how did I manage to go through the group stage without a single win? I mean, wasn't I ranked first in the world? Who am I... France? Anyways, that will teach me for going on a trip during a world cup, it guaranteed my failure.

*in a completely unrelated story, the minister of super secret sleuthery grins, and rubs his hands together. mission accomplished* :wink:
Snub Nose 38
18-09-2003, 00:56
Only 5 nations have played all 7WCs. They are Quohog, EB, Dyelli Bebbi, Arridia and GZ.

Dyelli Beybi missed WC6
Quohog missed WC4

Well, to be fair, I was signed up for WCIV, but that was the one when there was some difficulty, and they did another sign-up. Since I signed up early, I never went back to check and therefore didn't realize that I wasn't signed up.

Now, for the more important thing, how did I manage to go through the group stage without a single win? I mean, wasn't I ranked first in the world? Who am I... France? Anyways, that will teach me for going on a trip during a world cup, it guaranteed my failure.

*in a completely unrelated story, the minister of super secret sleuthery grins, and rubs his hands together. mission accomplished* :wink:
Kingsford
18-09-2003, 00:56
Hmm.. I feel ya buddy. 10 wins in qualifying, 0-1-1 in group stages. Only one goal scored in group stages. Oh well, better luck next cup.
Snub Nose 38
18-09-2003, 00:57
Only 5 nations have played all 7WCs. They are Quohog, EB, Dyelli Bebbi, Arridia and GZ.

Dyelli Beybi missed WC6
Quohog missed WC4

Well, to be fair, I was signed up for WCIV, but that was the one when there was some difficulty, and they did another sign-up. Since I signed up early, I never went back to check and therefore didn't realize that I wasn't signed up.

Now, for the more important thing, how did I manage to go through the group stage without a single win? I mean, wasn't I ranked first in the world? Who am I... France? Anyways, that will teach me for going on a trip during a world cup, it guaranteed my failure.

*in a completely unrelated story, the minister of super secret sleuthery grins, and rubs his hands together. mission accomplished* :wink:
Quohog
18-09-2003, 08:08
Hmm.. I feel ya buddy. 10 wins in qualifying, 0-1-1 in group stages. Only one goal scored in group stages. Oh well, better luck next cup.

Hmmm... the teams with 10 wins had problems. Something isn't computing, but luckily, this will give me time to do nothing without the excuse of being on vacation for a couple of weeks.
Dead Man
18-09-2003, 10:36
When's the next one I wish to announce the Dominion of Dead Mans return to the World cup!!
(And I better do well this time!)
Sign me up for the next one would ya?
Total n Utter Insanity
18-09-2003, 12:26
Hmm.. I feel ya buddy. 10 wins in qualifying, 0-1-1 in group stages. Only one goal scored in group stages. Oh well, better luck next cup.

Hmmm... the teams with 10 wins had problems. Something isn't computing, but luckily, this will give me time to do nothing without the excuse of being on vacation for a couple of weeks.

I didn't have any problems :D
One Red Dot
18-09-2003, 14:26
Maybe

[code:1:68c711b668]
Name P W D L F A GD Pts
(in here was data about rankings after 1 match)[/code:1:68c711b668]
What's that? Is it for the rankings?

(P.S.: This post is just to get me out of the probation list...)
It has to be a meaningful post :wink:

You are all under the influence of the Giant Zucchini Hypnotism Society. You will listen and believe everything I say from this point. Now, repeat after me. This is a MEANINGFUL post. Now repeat it again. Now, repeat it at half-speed. Now repeat it while contorting your upper lip and effecting a Southern drawl (or a Norwegian accent if you already have a Southern drawl). GOOOOD dog. Yippie, now I'm out of probation...

Thish postsh here ish a meaningful postsh...whoops...wrong lip contortion HA! :lol:
Oglethorpia
18-09-2003, 14:31
My first round always bites. To date, the Oglethorpian team has only made it to the second round once in World Cup 5 hosted by Tanah Burung. Since, we've managed to lose in the first round 3/4 times.

My team rocks in qualifying, then absolutely blows the first round.
Bedistan
18-09-2003, 14:34
My team rocks in qualifying, then absolutely blows the first round.

Heh, I feel ya. My team usually starts off qualifying horribly, bumps it up just enough to barely scrape through, and then fades into the background in the first round. But not this time! :D
Oglethorpia
18-09-2003, 14:36
My team rocks in qualifying, then absolutely blows the first round.

Heh, I feel ya. My team usually starts off qualifying horribly, bumps it up just enough to barely scrape through, and then fades into the background in the first round. But not this time! :D

Heh, i'm pullin' for ya Beddy!
Dead Man
18-09-2003, 15:10
Well Fellas I am the classic example. First World cup I play in I kicked ass to the third place then the next few times I play in the World Cup I don't even make it past the first round. I barely even win any matches
Ps Any spots left? I would also like to offer my countries largest manufactering business to help sponser this World Cup. Dead Man Auto's INC
One Red Dot
18-09-2003, 17:16
My first round always bites. To date, the Oglethorpian team has only made it to the second round once in World Cup 5 hosted by Tanah Burung. Since, we've managed to lose in the first round 3/4 times.

My team rocks in qualifying, then absolutely blows the first round.

We're in the same boat Ogle. Since WC4, i've always passed qualfying beautifully but screw up at the Group Stage. At least you've experienced a Second Round, the first time I've ever won a Group Stage match was recently against you in WC7.

You have my support Beddy.
Also DO...If you don't win, you'll make me look bad.
One Red Dot
18-09-2003, 18:16
Compiled the ranks for 17 to 32:

[code:1:92a142fe8e]
Seed Name P W D L F A GD Pts
* Ariddia 3 3 0 0 12 4 +8 9
* Malundar 3 3 0 0 11 5 +6 9
* Errinundera 3 2 1 0 6 2 +4 7
* Snub Nose 38 3 2 1 0 6 2 +4 7
* Runaway Moose 3 2 1 0 5 2 +3 7
* Halfassedstates 3 2 0 1 8 3 +5 6
* Svecia 3 2 0 1 7 3 +4 6
* Squornshelous 3 2 0 1 8 5 +3 6
* Spaam 3 2 0 1 7 4 +3 6
* Audioslavia 3 2 0 1 7 5 +2 6
* Busby 3 2 0 1 4 3 +1 6
* The Belmore Family 3 2 0 1 8 9 -1 6
* Pure Evil 3 1 2 0 6 5 +1 5
* Dark Outcasts 3 1 1 1 7 6 +1 4
* Bedistan 3 1 1 1 3 2 +1 4
* Total n Utter Insanity 3 1 1 1 3 2 +1 4
17 One Red Dot 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4
18 Akbarland 3 1 1 1 6 7 -1 4
19 Dennisov 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
20 Giant Zucchini 3 1 0 2 7 7 0 3
21 Lemmitania 3 1 0 2 7 8 -1 3
22 Haraki 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
23 Oglethorpia 3 1 0 2 1 3 -2 3
24 Lunatic Goofballs 3 1 0 2 3 6 -3 3
25 Nonexistentcitygrad 3 1 0 2 3 8 -5 3
26 Quohog 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
27 Tanah Burung 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
28 Liverpool England 3 0 1 2 4 7 -3 1
29 Ravenspire 3 0 1 2 2 6 -4 1
30 Kingsford 3 0 1 2 1 6 -5 1
31 Timway 3 0 1 2 3 9 -6 1
32 Europa Brittania 3 0 0 3 5 11 -6 0

* = Qualify for Second Round/Round of 16
[/code:1:92a142fe8e]

I might be wrong somewhere. Someone please double check (and I know you guys will, waiting to scrutinise at any mistake). :lol:

Also ORD is 17th seed!!!! Never felt so high up in the whole WC!!!

(gunshots and screams)

We apologise for the inconvenience caused. The messenger has been properly dealt with. Thank you.

--Edited to add in EB-Non match and add to Quohog's misery--
--Edited again to fix GD--
Quohog
18-09-2003, 18:25
Yes! I'm 25th in the World! It was when I was 25th in World Cup VI that I did so well, so I'm going to assume that is almost a guarantee for 1st... right? Oh well. I think that I just use up all my luck on the qualifiers. When we didn't have qualifiers, I would win all the games in the group stage, then bow out immediately. Now, I'm doing great in the qualifiers, and with the exception of WC6, exiting after the group stage. Maybe I could spread the good old luck out a bit.
The Belmore Family
18-09-2003, 18:33
Current Rank....28
Current table ranking....12
Hoped Ranking....10>
Lemmitania
18-09-2003, 18:35
Could someone do me a favour and run off 1,000 results between Ariddia and me. I wanna see how powerful his attack is.

TnUI (6)
Ariddia (8 )

[code:1:4baf4493ea]
round one:
W D L
246 244 150

round two:
W D L
261 251 128
[/code:1:4baf4493ea]


I know that's not 1000 matches. TnUI's record in each case. No home/away advantage here. TnUI puts the smackdown on Ariddia.
Lemmitania
18-09-2003, 18:37
Hmm.. I feel ya buddy. 10 wins in qualifying, 0-1-1 in group stages. Only one goal scored in group stages. Oh well, better luck next cup.

Of course, in qualifying you were playing mostly unranked teams.
Snub Nose 38
18-09-2003, 18:46
Hmm.. I feel ya buddy. 10 wins in qualifying, 0-1-1 in group stages. Only one goal scored in group stages. Oh well, better luck next cup.

Of course, in qualifying you were playing mostly unranked teams.

To quote a spokesperson from the Snub Nose 38 Ministry of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages, who would only give her name as "Margaret" -

"Sometimes the Magic Works, Sometimes..."
The Weegies
18-09-2003, 18:51
So, is the NS timing of World Cups the same as RL World Cups, i.e 4 NS years between each? I just wanted to make sure...
Snub Nose 38
18-09-2003, 18:54
So, is the NS timing of World Cups the same as RL World Cups, i.e 4 NS years between each? I just wanted to make sure...
Yup :wink:
One Red Dot
18-09-2003, 19:05
So, is the NS timing of World Cups the same as RL World Cups, i.e 4 NS years between each? I just wanted to make sure...
Yup :wink:

ok...lemme see...if i start WC4 at age 16...then i must be 28 years old now... :lol:
Snub Nose 38
18-09-2003, 19:39
So, is the NS timing of World Cups the same as RL World Cups, i.e 4 NS years between each? I just wanted to make sure...
Yup :wink:

ok...lemme see...if i start WC4 at age 16...then i must be 28 years old now... :lol:

hmmm...if i started WC3 at age 52...then i must be 68 now...
*keels over dead* :wink:
Total n Utter Insanity
18-09-2003, 20:10
I know that's not 1000 matches. TnUI's record in each case. No home/away advantage here. TnUI puts the smackdown on Ariddia.

*feels happy*
Bedistan
18-09-2003, 20:19
[code:1:0f2abe514c]
Seed Name P W D L F A GD Pts
* Total n Utter Insanity 3 1 1 1 3 2 +3 4[/code:1:0f2abe514c]

Looks like TnUI's GD should be +1, not +3. ;) That would mean, then, that I am tied with TnUI. Interesting...
Total n Utter Insanity
18-09-2003, 20:46
2 mistakes, Beddy spotted one, which I spotted straight away as well :wink:

The other GZ.

[code:1:b3fec8396a]
Name P W D L F A GD Pts
Ariddia 3 3 0 0 12 4 +8 9
Malundar 3 3 0 0 11 5 +6 9
Errinundera 3 2 1 0 6 2 +4 7
Snub Nose 38 3 2 1 0 6 2 +4 7
Runaway Moose 3 2 1 0 5 2 +3 7
Halfassedstates 3 2 0 1 8 3 +5 6
Svecia 3 2 0 1 7 3 +4 6
Squornshelous 3 2 0 1 8 5 +3 6
Spaam 3 2 0 1 7 4 +3 6
Audioslavia 3 2 0 1 7 5 +2 6
Busby 3 2 0 1 4 3 +1 6
The Belmore Family 3 2 0 1 8 9 -1 6
Pure Evil 3 1 2 0 6 5 +1 5
Dark Outcasts 3 1 1 1 7 6 +1 4
Bedistan 3 1 1 1 3 2 +1 4
Total n Utter Insanity 3 1 1 1 3 2 +1 4
One Red Dot 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4
Akbarland 3 1 1 1 6 7 -1 4
Dennisov 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
Lemmitania 3 1 0 2 7 8 -1 3
Giant Zucchini 3 1 0 2 6 8 -2 3
Haraki 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
Oglethorpia 3 1 0 2 1 3 -2 3
Lunatic Goofballs 3 1 0 2 3 6 -3 3
Nonexistentcitygrad 3 1 0 2 3 8 -5 3
Quohog 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
Tanah Burung 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
Liverpool England 3 0 1 2 4 7 -3 1
Ravenspire 3 0 1 2 2 6 -4 1
Kingsford 3 0 1 2 1 6 -5 1
Timway 3 0 1 2 3 9 -6 1
Europa Brittania 3 0 0 3 5 11 -6 0
[/code:1:b3fec8396a]
Total n Utter Insanity
18-09-2003, 21:16
[code:1:9cd279e93d]
Rk Name
20 Lemmitania
21 Giant Zucchini
22 Haraki
23 Oglethorpia
24 Lunatic Goofballs
25 Nonexistentcitygrad
26 Quohog
27 Tanah Burung
28 Liverpool England
29 Ravenspire
30 Kingsford
31 Timway
32 Europa Brittania
[/code:1:9cd279e93d]
Lemmitania
18-09-2003, 21:55
So, is the NS timing of World Cups the same as RL World Cups, i.e 4 NS years between each? I just wanted to make sure...
Yup :wink:

ok...lemme see...if i start WC4 at age 16...then i must be 28 years old now... :lol:

That makes me a fine 49.
Total n Utter Insanity
18-09-2003, 21:57
I'm 40.
Bedistan
18-09-2003, 22:17
Pfah, lots of old geezers...I'm only 28 as of WC8 :P
Lemmitania
18-09-2003, 22:28
I'm 40.

And you've played one more than me, I think. My, you're quite young.
Audioslavia
18-09-2003, 22:50
are we going from the first world cup you took part in? in that case im 31 :)
Snub Nose 38
18-09-2003, 22:52
are we going from the first world cup you took part in? in that case im 31 :)
And if we're talking about at the start of WC8, then I'm 72.
*hobbles away with the aid of a walker*
Oglethorpia
18-09-2003, 22:57
My first round always bites. To date, the Oglethorpian team has only made it to the second round once in World Cup 5 hosted by Tanah Burung. Since, we've managed to lose in the first round 3/4 times.

My team rocks in qualifying, then absolutely blows the first round.

We're in the same boat Ogle. Since WC4, i've always passed qualfying beautifully but screw up at the Group Stage. At least you've experienced a Second Round, the first time I've ever won a Group Stage match was recently against you in WC7.

You have my support Beddy.
Also DO...If you don't win, you'll make me look bad.

Well, better luck next time ORD!
Audioslavia
18-09-2003, 22:59
are we going from the first world cup you took part in? in that case im 31 :)
And if we're talking about at the start of WC8, then I'm 72.
*hobbles away with the aid of a walker*

lol, if its for WC8 then im 35 :p
Quohog
19-09-2003, 00:20
For WC8, I would be 47.
Oglethorpia
19-09-2003, 00:23
WC4: 15
WC5: 19
WC6: 23
WC7: 27
WC8: 31

WOOHOO! I'm young.
Kingsford
19-09-2003, 02:34
3 - 15
4 - 19
5 - 23
6 - 27
7 - 31
8 - 35


I'm older than OGLY!
19-09-2003, 10:20
OOC:

Hi. I've been without my internet connection for over a week and have come back to see how far the world cup has progressed

I see the big league table but I'm not included. What stage have we got to?
Halfassedstates
19-09-2003, 11:02
bl00dy nora,
WC5 - 24
WC6 - 28
WC7 - 32
WC8 - 37
19-09-2003, 11:36
WC5 = 45
WC6 = 49
WC7 = 53
WC8 = 57

Gak.

I suppose that Errinundera's main Protector's got 2 more World Cups before he hands over the reins of government to someone else. Could be some RP possibilities in WC10.

Mmmm.
Total n Utter Insanity
19-09-2003, 12:18
OOC:

Hi. I've been without my internet connection for over a week and have come back to see how far the world cup has progressed

I see the big league table but I'm not included. What stage have we got to?

WC7 - Second Round.
Ariddia
19-09-2003, 13:57
Hmm, I'm 49... By the way, all WCC members who have not yet done so, please contact me and/or TnUI with your vote.
Snub Nose 38
19-09-2003, 14:49
Hmm, I'm 49... By the way, all WCC members who have not yet done so, please contact me and/or TnUI with your vote.

-zzz....zzz...zzz...huh?... wuzzat?...umph...
*lays old grey head down again, and goes back to sleep*
Halfassedstates
19-09-2003, 15:36
*quietly walks over to SN38 and places a tartan rug over his legs. Switches off the TV and puts a fireguard round the fire before quietly slipping back out of the room*
Snub Nose 38
19-09-2003, 15:42
*quietly walks over to SN38 and places a tartan rug over his legs. Switches off the TV and puts a fireguard round the fire before quietly slipping back out of the room*
:shock: lol
Lemmitania
19-09-2003, 17:59
Just as an offer... if whoever hosts 8 wants to use the current formula (or a modified version to allow fewer goals), I'm willing to set up the spreadsheet for the qualifiers. It makes generating results very quick and easy.

It's up to you, whoever you are.

Modifying the formula is quite easy, and I'm willing to explain how to do it to whoever hosts.
Lemmitania
19-09-2003, 18:00
Hmm, I'm 49... By the way, all WCC members who have not yet done so, please contact me and/or TnUI with your vote.

What happened to IRC?
Bedistan
19-09-2003, 18:03
Just as an offer... if whoever hosts 8 wants to use the current formula (or a modified version to allow fewer goals), I'm willing to set up the spreadsheet for the qualifiers. It makes generating results very quick and easy.

It's up to you, whoever you are.

Modifying the formula is quite easy, and I'm willing to explain how to do it to whoever hosts.

After some analysis of the two spreadsheets you made available, I've already created my own that I can adapt pretty easily to any formula. Right now it works with the current formula, but Ogle and I are still discussing which formula we plan to use.
The Belmore Family
19-09-2003, 18:24
Just as an offer... if whoever hosts 8 wants to use the current formula (or a modified version to allow fewer goals), I'm willing to set up the spreadsheet for the qualifiers. It makes generating results very quick and easy.

It's up to you, whoever you are.

Modifying the formula is quite easy, and I'm willing to explain how to do it to whoever hosts.
Yeh, I would be willing if we host... however I may just get the IT department at my school to do it.
Anti-Nazis
19-09-2003, 18:33
Anti-Nazis is in.

post me up there please
Lemmitania
19-09-2003, 19:45
...however I may just get the IT department at my school to do it.

You're kidding, right? I can't even get the IT department to fix the things that are broke.

Actually, we have a good crew of kids in Client Services, but spreadsheets would be beyond their cpabilities. And outside their charter.
The Belmore Family
19-09-2003, 20:28
When will the WCC be meeting? I want to know who is going to host.
Total n Utter Insanity
19-09-2003, 22:32
Well I should be there for a while this weekend. Of course I shall also be sleeping, eating and doing other things.
19-09-2003, 23:29
Just as an offer... if whoever hosts 8 wants to use the current formula (or a modified version to allow fewer goals), I'm willing to set up the spreadsheet for the qualifiers. It makes generating results very quick and easy.

It's up to you, whoever you are.

Modifying the formula is quite easy, and I'm willing to explain how to do it to whoever hosts.
Yeh, I would be willing if we host... however I may just get the IT department at my school to do it.

Is it an Excel spreadsheet?
Oglethorpia
19-09-2003, 23:52
Yes, Lemm has a spreadsheet set up for score generation.
20-09-2003, 01:37
The Dragonian Empire will join as well if possible
Liverpool England
20-09-2003, 01:39
Liverpool England and Timway will use this spreadsheet if you offer us hosting privileges, Lemmy. And nice job on the Gil song........ IT'S WONDERFUL!!!
Ariddia
20-09-2003, 03:01
I won't be able to be on IRC. TnUI, you know my vote. :p
Let me know...
Hell Bovines
20-09-2003, 03:27
Hell Bovines would like to participate in this event. We are big football fans, but this will be the first time we will participate in a world cup.
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 06:51
MAYBE NOT!

just so you could all see.
Spaam
20-09-2003, 06:56
And in latest news, TBF has lost the bid to host the World Cup, for being a snitch. Noone could be reached for comment, cos they couldn't give a damn.
20-09-2003, 07:52
And in latest news, TBF has lost the bid to host the World Cup, for being a snitch. Noone could be reached for comment, cos they couldn't give a damn.

:tantrum:
20-09-2003, 08:19
Hell Bovines would like to participate in this event. We are big football fans, but this will be the first time we will participate in a world cup.

Whilst commentating on the World Cup through the eyes of the village of Fanny Moo I've previously noticed the NationState of Hell Bovines in my peripheral vision and wondered if the 2 might ever meet.

A perusal of my WC7 news reports will provide some bovine connections other than the village's name:

1. Fanny Moo's sacred tree is named CUNNUSVACCAE. Those who know their Latin should blush upon reading that.

2. In the First Creek Falls Age article we learn the Errinundrian attitude towards the treatment of cows.

From the Fanny Moo Examiner On-line I (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1438502&highlight=#1438502)
SPRING FESTIVAL TOMORROW
FANNY MOO COACH THREATENS SACKINGS
WARM WELOME FOR LONGFOOTS IN E.B.
REFUGEE TELLS HARROWING TALE
DULL GAME IN EUROPA BRITTANIA
ANTARCTICAD SHOCKS FANS ONCE MORE
PLOSER PLEASED; UNIONS PLAN ACTION

From the Fanny Moo Examiner On-line II (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1451359&highlight=#1451359)
HEADACHE AHEAD FOR CHAMP
FANNY MOO COACH ORDERED TO DROP HERSELF - DROPS REPORTER INSTEAD
FOREIGN INDUSTRIALISTS ARRIVE TO HELP STOCK NEW FACTORY
MORE JOY FOR FOOTBALL TOURISTS
NATIONAL TEAM CONTINUES TO WIN ON THE ROAD
REFUGEE DIES INEXPLICABLY

From the Fanny Moo Examiner On-line III (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1459992&highlight=#1459992)
RARE ORCHID THROWS RAIL TRAVELLERS FOR A LOOP
MAGISTRATE TO INVESTIGATE SANDRAB INCIDENT
MODERN FACTORY REMAINS IDLE
MORE JOY FOR FOOTBALL TOURISTS
GAMBLE WITH INEXPERIENCED SIDE FAILS

From the Fanny Moo Examiner On-line IV (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1468458&highlight=#1468458)
CAR SMUGGLED INTO TREE
DILEMMA FOR SHOE FACTORY WORKERS
FOOTBALL DELIGHTS IN ERRINUNDERA
STAR RIPS OPEN GAME IN 5 MINUTE BURST

From the Fanny Moo Examiner On-line V (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1475385&highlight=#1475385)
FANNY MOO'S BIGGEST SUCK FOUND
PLOSER CRASHES AT HOME AND BOOMS ABROAD
DISAPPOINTMENT FOR HAZEL
ERRINUNDERA CONTINUES INDIFFERENT RECORD AGAINST LORDSQUALL

From the First Creek Falls Age (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1476629&highlight=#1476629)
LEATHER SCANDALS
ERRINUNDERA TO FORFEIT AGAINST EUROPA BRITTANIA
Leather substituted for leather substitute

From the Errinundrian Financial Review (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65829&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=300)
SHOULD BE CONSUMERS DO IT AGAIN

From the Mount Ellery Evening Gazette (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1505970&highlight=#1505970)
CAVERN GREETS THE WORLD
NOOK & CRANNIES SHOW THE WAY
LONGFOOTS IN AMAZING SECOND HALF BLITZ

From the Ellery Camp Pravda (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1513754&highlight=#1513754)
ZENZA'S PULSE QUICKENS IN ELLERY CAMP

From the Fanny Moo Examiner On-line VI (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65829&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=600)
DEAN OF LEMMITANIAN SPORTS VANISHES
REFUGEES START OWN MICROFIBRE BUSINESS
LONGFOOTS LOSE HEART FOR DRAW

From the Fanny Moo Examiner On-line VII (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65829&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=660)
THE REAL REASON THE ORGAN LAWS HAVE BEEN REPEALED
ERRINUNDERA: # 723
CLEMOLEM PROVIDES FAINT RAY OF HOPE
LONGFOOTS KICK AHEAD BUT COULD STILL BE BROUGHT TO HEEL
LOCAL STAR HAS BEST GAME YET

From the Fanny Moo Examiner On-line VIII (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65829&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=700)
QUOHOG OUT
WHAT ERRINUNDRIANS ARE READING
REPORTS OF DEANOSPORTEM IN NORTH
LONGFOOTS IN

From the Fanny Moo Examiner On-line IX (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65829&start=800)
FANNY MOO COW REMAINS RECEIVE SOLEMN INTERMENT
FORMER TRADE PROTECTOR INTERCEPTED AT McKILLOPS BRIDGE
SANDRAB BANISHED FROM FANNY MOO
FANNIES CONTINUE TO FREEZE UP ON THE FIELD
POMADERRISA RAGES AGAINST THE CLOCK IN AUDIOSLAVIA
ANOTHER EPIC ERRINUNDERA WORLD CUP GAME

Should Errinundera win the right to co-host WC8 some interesting dilemmas will present themselves:

1. Are teams of intelligent bovine life-forms permitted under the WCC rules?
2. Although Errinundrians abhore the consumption, killing and other mistreatment of cows, they are also deemed an environmental menace and are thus prohibited from entering the country by law. This is a matter that will have to addressed legislatively in much the same way that the legality of Snub Nose 38s must also be addressed.
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 08:26
TBF & Errinunderas joint bid
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City of Alan Football stadium100,000 Alan City F.C.

Suseenia 75,000 Susan City F.C.

Falmaso Stadium 55,000 Dorminian Rovers

Darmaliona Stadium 80,000 Sarah Bulldogs

Dalinog Stadium 60,000 Wessex United

Saficere 50,000 Hads United

Bondwag stadia 29,000 Bond Athletic

Sandris 65,000 Dipthong Athletic

The Ampitheatre 20,000 Big Tree Camp Hawks

The BCG 101,000 Bonang Gonads

The B Triple R 35,000 Bemm River Carvers

The Cavern 52,000 Mount Ellery Troglodytes

The Coliseum 41,000 Milosis White Guard & McKillops Bridge Kingfishers

Flatlands 21,000 Waratah Flat Reds

Frosty Hollow 45,000 Rooty Break Rustlers

National Downfall 64,000 First Creek Falls Liberators...
[/code:1:eeeefd75a5]
20-09-2003, 08:36
The Basket Weaving Sector of Singo Sai would like to become a sponser of this world cup sporting event.... namely in the fact that basket weaving has insantaneously become unpopular in Singo Sai, and it may help to boost the popularity of this sporting event.
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 11:34
I'll get the general feeling and TG you Ariddia.
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 11:47
I'll get the general feeling and TG you Ariddia.???
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 12:19
God, how do you manage to be so annoying.
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 12:20
God, how do you manage to be so annoying.
natural talent
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 12:23
You're worse that Ogly and AS put together...hmmm OglyAS... :lol:
Liverpool England
20-09-2003, 12:28
Liverpool England and Timway will use this spreadsheet if you offer us hosting privileges, Lemmy. And nice job on the Gil song........ IT'S WONDERFUL!!!

TBF: It says, IT'S WONDERFUL!!!
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 12:37
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Liverpool England
20-09-2003, 12:53
lol... very funny. was editing a samll typo.
Damn it, another typo. SMALL
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 12:54
Sit twiddling thumbs, waiting for host to be announced
Snub Nose 38
20-09-2003, 13:26
A bunch of stuff re: Hells Bovines & Fanny Moo, and then...
2. Although Errinundrians abhore the consumption, killing and other mistreatment of cows, they are also deemed an environmental menace and are thus prohibited from entering the country by law. This is a matter that will have to addressed legislatively in much the same way that the legality of Snub Nose 38s must also be addressed.
The Deputy Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages would like to point out:

1 - The citizens of the Borderlands of Snub Nose 38 are not weapons. We are human beings, who happen to live in a place with the same name as a weapon. To believe otherwise is like believing the citizens of Spaam are a group of canned meats.

2 - If the name 'Snub Nose 38" itself is a problem, we can easily arrange to simply call ourselves "The Hooligans" for the duration of any time we had to spend in Errinundera - should Errinundera ever be so lucky as to host the World Cup - something we currently find ourselves oddly opposed to.

3 - *insert here the derisive sound known as a "raspberry"

If the government of Errinundera has any further questions on this subject, we would be glad to address them.
:wink:
Snub Nose 38
20-09-2003, 13:31
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20-09-2003, 13:57
The Deputy Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages would like to point out:

1 - The citizens of the Borderlands of Snub Nose 38 are not weapons. We are human beings, who happen to live in a place with the same name as a weapon. To believe otherwise is like believing the citizens of Spaam are a group of canned meats.

2 - If the name 'Snub Nose 38" itself is a problem, we can easily arrange to simply call ourselves "The Hooligans" for the duration of any time we had to spend in Errinundera - should Errinundera ever be so lucky as to host the World Cup - something we currently find ourselves oddly opposed to.

3 - *insert here the derisive sound known as a "raspberry"

If the government of Errinundera has any further questions on this subject, we would be glad to address them.
:wink:

Greetings to the Snub Nose 38 Deputy Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages.

No personal slight was intended with our previous communication. We have no issue with the people from your nation. Errinundrian magistrates have pointed out that the law banning snub nose 38s doesn't adequately define what they are. Accordingly, as the law stands, anything that can be commonly understood as a snub nose 38 is prohibited.

Please do not be alarmed by this. Legislation is currently before the Assembly of Protectors to rectify the matter.

I might also add that Errinundera does not have a police force. This means that you cheer squad is under no threat of arrest. Nor are Errinundrians likely to do anything other than throw fruit, vegetables, tofu and gluten at them.

We also note that a new breed of tomato from Tanah Burung has become popular within our nation. I am also told that geneticists from the Unversity of Milosis have inserted genes from the insect-eating Atauro plant from the Wetar distict of Tanah Burung into the tomato. The Atauro plant is famous for being the source of the notorios depa drug. What the effect of this genetic engineering will be I do not know.

overseasj
Errinundera's Protector of Foreign Affairs
(You don't want just anybody knowing, do you?)
8)
Snub Nose 38
20-09-2003, 14:52
Greetings to overseasj, Errinundera's Protector of Foreign Affairs

We apologize for the mis-understanding which lead to our previous communique. Clearly your government is going out of it's way to prevent, rather than cause, ill feeling.

In the event that the Snub Nose 38 Hooligans are fortunate enought to visit Errinundera, we have arranged for a complete kit that includes no leather product whatever.

We should like to withdraw the whole "raspberry" comment.

Should Errinundera host World Cup 8, in order to help ensure the peace and domestic tranquility of Errinundera, Errinunderians, and their guests, we humbly request permission to bring an un-armed squad of riot control police. The sole reason for their inclusion would be to enable us to maitain some control over the possible antics of our Hooligan Cheerleaders. While this point is negotiable, we strongly recommend you approve.

We are somewhat curious, we must admit, about the Errinunderian Engineered Evisceratomato. Currently possesion of, or cultivation of, any evisceratomato (plant, seed, fruit) in any quantity is a felony offense here in the Borderlands. Perhaps we could arrange for a meeting of some members of our Academy of Science with the geneticists from the Unversity of Milosis who are working on the Errinunderian Engineered Evisceratomato project at a mutually agreeable location? Obviously, under current Errinunderian law we cannot come to Errinundera, and under current Snub Nose 38 law you cannot bring the "product" here.

We are happy to have worked through this mis-understanding and re-established the friendship between our nations.

Sincerely,

The Acting Minister of Athletics, Olympics and Alcoholic Beverages
for the Borderlands of Snub Nose 38
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 14:55
To believe otherwise is like believing the citizens of Spaam are a group of canned meats.

They aren't?????
Snub Nose 38
20-09-2003, 14:57
To believe otherwise is like believing the citizens of Spaam are a group of canned meats.

They aren't?????

We were just trying to make a point. We may have selected an inappropriate example. :wink:
20-09-2003, 15:22
We are somewhat curious, we must admit, about the Errinunderian Engineered Evisceratomato. Currently possesion of, or cultivation of, any evisceratomato (plant, seed, fruit) in any quantity is a felony offense here in the Borderlands. Perhaps we could arrange for a meeting of some members of our Academy of Science with the geneticists from the Unversity of Milosis who are working on the Errinunderian Engineered Evisceratomato project at a mutually agreeable location? Obviously, under current Errinunderian law we cannot come to Errinundera, and under current Snub Nose 38 law you cannot bring the "product" here.

We are happy to have worked through this mis-understanding and re-established the friendship between our nations.


How about we meet at the pub across the road from the ground two hours before the Errinundera v Runaway Moose game starts. We'll have a delegation of Milosis scientists and departmental managers there.

BTW, if not used for throwing at cheersquads the newly engineered tomato is delicious. The first few times you try them you get a shocking case of the runs, though. Fortunately, your body adapts and, other than lurid purple stools, everything gets back to normal.

8)
Snub Nose 38
20-09-2003, 15:36
We are somewhat curious, we must admit, about the Errinunderian Engineered Evisceratomato. Currently possesion of, or cultivation of, any evisceratomato (plant, seed, fruit) in any quantity is a felony offense here in the Borderlands. Perhaps we could arrange for a meeting of some members of our Academy of Science with the geneticists from the Unversity of Milosis who are working on the Errinunderian Engineered Evisceratomato project at a mutually agreeable location? Obviously, under current Errinunderian law we cannot come to Errinundera, and under current Snub Nose 38 law you cannot bring the "product" here.

We are happy to have worked through this mis-understanding and re-established the friendship between our nations.

How about we meet at the pub across the road from the ground two hours before the Errinundera v Runaway Moose game starts. We'll have a delegation of Milosis scientists and departmental managers there.

BTW, if not used for throwing at cheersquads the newly engineered tomato is delicious. The first few times you try them you get a shocking case of the runs, though. Fortunately, your body adapts and, other than lurid purple stools, everything gets back to normal.

8)
Done. Several representatives from the Snub Nose 38 Academy of Sciences will be there. Do the EEEs go well with beer?
20-09-2003, 15:42
Done. Several representatives from the Snub Nose 38 Academy of Sciences will be there. Do the EEEs go well with beer?

A perfect opportunity to conduct the necessary tests.
One Red Dot
20-09-2003, 16:35
[code:1:b899085d9a]
Top 16 After Round 1

Seed Name P W D L F A GD Pts
* Ariddia 3 3 0 0 12 4 +8 9
* Malundar 3 3 0 0 11 5 +6 9
* Errinundera 3 2 1 0 6 2 +4 7
* Snub Nose 38 3 2 1 0 6 2 +4 7
* Runaway Moose 3 2 1 0 5 2 +3 7
* Halfassedstates 3 2 0 1 8 3 +5 6
* Svecia 3 2 0 1 7 3 +4 6
* Squornshelous 3 2 0 1 8 5 +3 6
* Spaam 3 2 0 1 7 4 +3 6
* Audioslavia 3 2 0 1 7 5 +2 6
* Busby 3 2 0 1 4 3 +1 6
* The Belmore Family 3 2 0 1 8 9 -1 6
* Pure Evil 3 1 2 0 6 5 +1 5
* Dark Outcasts 3 1 1 1 7 6 +1 4
* Bedistan 3 1 1 1 3 2 +1 4
* Total n Utter Insanity 3 1 1 1 3 2 +1 4

Ranked based on Round 2

Seed Name P W D L F A GD Pts

* Runaway Moose 1 1 0 0 4 1 +3 3
* Errinundera 1 1 0 0 4 2 +2 3
* Bedistan 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
* Dark Outcasts 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
* Halfassedstates 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
* Spaam 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
* Pure Evil 1 1 0 0 1 0 +1 3
* Svecia 1 1 0 0 1 0 +1 3
09 Ariddia 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
09 Malundar 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
09 Snub Nose 38 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
09 The Belmore Family 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1 0
13 Squornshelous 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0
13 Busby 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0
15 Audioslavia 1 0 0 1 2 4 -2 0
16 Total n Utter Insanity 1 0 0 1 1 4 -3 0


Ranked based on combining Rounds 1 and 2

Seed Name P W D L F A GD Pts
* Errinundera 4 3 1 0 10 4 +6 10
* Runaway Moose 4 3 1 0 9 3 +6 10
09 Ariddia 4 3 0 1 13 6 +7 9
* Halfassedstates 4 3 0 1 10 4 +6 9
10 Malundar 4 3 0 1 12 7 +5 9
* Svecia 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 9
* Spaam 4 3 0 1 9 5 +4 9
* Pure Evil 4 2 2 0 7 5 +2 8
11 Snub Nose 38 4 2 1 1 7 4 +3 7
* Dark Outcasts 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
* Bedistan 4 2 1 1 5 3 +2 7
12 Squornshelous 4 2 0 2 8 6 +2 6
13 Audioslavia 4 2 0 2 9 9 0 6
14 Busby 4 2 0 2 4 4 0 6
15 The Belmore Family 4 2 0 2 9 11 -2 6
16 Total n Utter Insanity 4 1 1 2 4 6 -2 4

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Here are the rankings for the next 8 that were eliminated. Again, I know there would be mistakes somwhere, so to all those perfectionists...scrutinise all you want.

I'm not sure how you guys determine the next 8 seeds so I just dumped everything for your convenience.
20-09-2003, 17:34
This is the one that counts:

[code:1:35953b6835]Seed Name P W D L F A GD Pts
* Errinundera 4 3 1 0 10 4 +6 10
* Runaway Moose 4 3 1 0 9 3 +6 10
09 Ariddia 4 3 0 1 13 6 +7 9
* Halfassedstates 4 3 0 1 10 4 +6 9
10 Malundar 4 3 0 1 12 7 +5 9
* Svecia 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 9
* Spaam 4 3 0 1 9 5 +4 9
* Pure Evil 4 2 2 0 7 5 +2 8
11 Snub Nose 38 4 2 1 1 7 4 +3 7
* Dark Outcasts 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
* Bedistan 4 2 1 1 5 3 +2 7
12 Squornshelous 4 2 0 2 8 6 +2 6
13 Audioslavia 4 2 0 2 9 9 0 6
14 Busby 4 2 0 2 4 4 0 6
15 The Belmore Family 4 2 0 2 9 11 -2 6
16 TnUI 4 1 1 2 4 6 -2 4[/code:1:35953b6835]
Bedistan
20-09-2003, 17:51
This is the one that counts:

[code:1:f826e27e70]Seed Name P W D L F A GD Pts
* Errinundera 4 3 1 0 10 4 +6 10
* Runaway Moose 4 3 1 0 9 3 +6 10
09 Ariddia 4 3 0 1 13 6 +7 9
* Halfassedstates 4 3 0 1 10 4 +6 9
10 Malundar 4 3 0 1 12 7 +5 9
* Svecia 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 9
* Spaam 4 3 0 1 9 5 +4 9
* Pure Evil 4 2 2 0 7 5 +2 8
11 Snub Nose 38 2 1 1 7 4 +3 7
* Dark Outcasts 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
* Bedistan 4 2 1 1 5 3 +2 7
12 Squornshelous 4 2 0 2 8 6 +2 6
13 Audioslavia 4 2 0 2 9 9 0 6
14 Busby 2 0 2 4 4 0 6
15 The Belmore Family 4 2 0 2 9 11 -2 6
16 TnUI 4 1 1 2 4 6 -2 4[/code:1:f826e27e70]

And by pure coincidence, that's the one that has Errinundera ranked higher and my team ranked *much* lower. ;)
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 18:07
Yey 15th, any decision yet?
Bedistan
20-09-2003, 18:09
Yey 15th, any decision yet?

No, not yet. It should come today or tomorrow, I believe.
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 18:10
I think I know the answer. Tho you probably won't get it till Ariddia logs on.
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 18:14
I think I know the answer. Tho you probably won't get it till Ariddia logs on.
Do you accept bribery?
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 18:16
Ariddia
Most Recent Government Activity: 5 hours ago

Wow that takes some will power.
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 18:17
Do you accept bribery?

Of course, how much?
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 18:17
Do you accept bribery?

Of course, how much?
How much you wantin

(oops)
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 18:19
You don't know how bribery works do you?
The Belmore Family
20-09-2003, 18:20
You don't know how bribery works do you?
oops, sorry in my own little world
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 18:26
50,000,000

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Rk Name
12 Squornshelous
13 Audioslavia
14 Busby
15 The Belmore Family
16 One Red Dot
17 Akbarland
18 Dennisov
19 Total n Utter Insanity
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One Red Dot
20-09-2003, 19:05
50,000,000

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Rk Name
12 Squornshelous
13 Audioslavia
14 Busby
15 The Belmore Family
16 One Red Dot
17 Akbarland
18 Dennisov
19 Total n Utter Insanity
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Why am I 16th? I'm most certainly sure I'm 17th.
Bedistan
20-09-2003, 19:06
Why am I 16th? I'm most certainly sure I'm 17th.

No offense, but I wouldn't be complaining if I found myself one rank higher than I expected. ;)
One Red Dot
20-09-2003, 19:10
Why am I 16th? I'm most certainly sure I'm 17th.

No offense, but I wouldn't be complaining if I found myself one rank higher than I expected. ;)

1. It's not fair to others
2. It's not ethical.
3. It's not my style to be unfair and unethical.

Anyway...could somone officially put up the positions for positions 9 to 32?
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 19:27
Anyway...could somone officially put up the positions for positions 9 to 32?

I have done :roll:

Well 12 to 32.

Tho if you want, I'll take your place.
One Red Dot
20-09-2003, 20:19
I have done :roll:

Well 12 to 32.

Tho if you want, I'll take your place.

That's not really the point...what I would like to see is all the statistics that backup the point that I am 16th because with what I have come up with in my PC, I am 17th. Sorry if I sound like I'm a pain in the arse.
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 21:36
Ow, my arse.

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Name P W D L F A GD Pts
Errinundera* 4 3 1 0 10 4 +6 10
Runaway Moose* 4 3 1 0 9 3 +6 10
Ariddia 4 3 0 1 13 6 +7 9
Halfassedstates* 4 3 0 1 10 4 +6 9
Malundar 4 3 0 1 12 7 +5 9
Svecia* 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 9
Spaam* 4 3 0 1 9 5 +4 9
Pure Evil* 4 2 2 0 7 5 +2 8
Snub Nose 38 4 2 1 1 7 4 +3 7
Dark Outcasts* 4 2 1 1 9 7 +2 7
Bedistan* 4 2 1 1 5 3 +2 7
Squornshelous 4 2 0 2 8 6 +2 6
Audioslavia 4 2 0 2 9 9 0 6
Busby 4 2 0 2 4 4 0 6
The Belmore Family 4 2 0 2 9 11 -2 6
One Red Dot 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4
Akbarland 3 1 1 1 6 7 -1 4
Dennisov 3 1 1 1 5 7 -2 4
Total n Utter Insanity 4 1 1 2 4 6 -2 4
Lemmitania 3 1 0 2 7 8 -1 3
Giant Zucchini 3 1 0 2 6 8 -2 3
Haraki 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
Oglethorpia 3 1 0 2 1 3 -2 3
Lunatic Goofballs 3 1 0 2 3 6 -3 3
Nonexistentcitygrad 3 1 0 2 3 8 -5 3
Quohog 3 0 2 1 5 7 -2 2
Tanah Burung 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1
Liverpool England 3 0 1 2 4 7 -3 1
Ravenspire 3 0 1 2 2 6 -4 1
Kingsford 3 0 1 2 1 6 -5 1
Timway 3 0 1 2 3 9 -6 1
Europa Brittania 3 0 0 3 5 11 -6 0
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Audioslavia
20-09-2003, 21:46
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13 Audioslavia
19 Total n Utter Insanity
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yay :) at least im less of a failure than TnUI :D
Hell Bovines
20-09-2003, 21:46
OOC:Hey! Why did you left me out of the world cup? :(
IC:
The Grand Duchy Of Hell Bovines would like to ask the reason because it has been left out of the world cup. We hope that there isn't a sort of racial discrimination towards non-humans in this kind of events. The fact that we are sentient cows that walk on their hinds desn't mean we can't play football.
We demand an explanation. Hughs,

Saturnino Vacuno, Vice-duque of the hell bovines
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 21:49
Hell Bovines would like to participate in this event. We are big football fans, but this will be the first time we will participate in a world cup.

Because World Cup 8 will be your first World Cup, not 7.
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 21:50
I hope 13 is very lucky for you :P
Audioslavia
20-09-2003, 21:52
OOC:Hey! Why did you left me out of the world cup? :(
IC:
The Grand Duchy Of Hell Bovines would like to ask the reason because it has been left out of the world cup. We hope that there isn't a sort of racial discrimination towards non-humans in this kind of events. The fact that we are sentient cows that walk on their hinds desn't mean we can't play football.
We demand an explanation. Hughs,

Saturnino Vacuno, Vice-duque of the hell bovines

we havent have we? im not sure if we have any vacant places left. World Cup 8 wont start for another week.
Hell Bovines
20-09-2003, 21:58
OOC:Hey! Why did you left me out of the world cup? :(
IC:
The Grand Duchy Of Hell Bovines would like to ask the reason because it has been left out of the world cup. We hope that there isn't a sort of racial discrimination towards non-humans in this kind of events. The fact that we are sentient cows that walk on their hinds desn't mean we can't play football.
We demand an explanation. Hughs,

Saturnino Vacuno, Vice-duque of the hell bovines

we havent have we? im not sure if we have any vacant places left. World Cup 8 wont start for another week.
OOC: Then, you forgot to add me to the list of the first post in this thread. That's what created all the confusion.
IC: We are glad to find out we haven't been left out. Apparently, It was all confusion created by the fact that we don't figure in the list of teams in this thread. Also, 13 happens to be the duque's favourite number. :P
Best luck,

Saturnino Vacuno
Bedistan
20-09-2003, 22:42
A quick peek at the first post in this thread reveals the following:

Hosts:
Oglethorpia & Bedistan

WOOHOO!!!! :D :D :D
Bedistan
20-09-2003, 23:01
And since that is now made apparent, I present the WC8 logo:

http://members.aol.com/harleyt1387/wc8_logo.png

Two footballs, a smaller one on top of a larger one, in the shape of the number 8. As it turns out, both Oglethorpia and Bedistan have blue, white, and green flags. The blue used here is midway between the Oglethorpian blue and the Bedistani blue. The green is an average of the Oglethorpian green and both shades of green used on the Bedistani flag.
Bedistan
20-09-2003, 23:22
And while I'm here, shouldn't we have 92 teams instead of 90? Remember that the two hosts auto-qualify, and bringing 88 teams down to 30 is not an easy task (2 groups of 44, top 15 in each group qualify? Not on your life). I suppose it could be done with one of those extra round robin sessions a la WC6, but it would be less confusing if everyone just qualified outright.
Total n Utter Insanity
20-09-2003, 23:30
Better?
Liverpool England
21-09-2003, 01:11
Bedi, the firsrt post reads
"Hosts:
Errinundera & The Belmore Family"
Bedistan
21-09-2003, 01:18
Bedi, the firsrt post reads
"Hosts:
Errinundera & The Belmore Family"

OK, it didn't say that when I looked at it before. Someone's toying with us here. In that case, I'm assuming the WCC hasn't yet reached a conclusion and are indecisive, until I hear otherwise. :?
21-09-2003, 02:05
I'm in already but I've never done a World Cup on NS before what do I do?
Spaam
21-09-2003, 03:13
And while I'm here, shouldn't we have 92 teams instead of 90? Remember that the two hosts auto-qualify, and bringing 88 teams down to 30 is not an easy task (2 groups of 44, top 15 in each group qualify? Not on your life). I suppose it could be done with one of those extra round robin sessions a la WC6, but it would be less confusing if everyone just qualified outright.

Um, actually, I was pushing to have only 77 teams 15 groups of 5 plus the two hosts. A few reasons for this: 1. UEFA uses groups of 5 2. A lot of the nations that have entered will never post and never go into another WC 3. We would only have 240 games in the qualifying, instead of 450. IE almost half. It would make it a lot easier on you guys, and it would make it a lot easier on ME who has to do the tables.... So I would SERIOUSLY consider this proposal.
Bedistan
21-09-2003, 03:21
Um, actually, I was pushing to have only 77 teams 15 groups of 5 plus the two hosts. A few reasons for this: 1. UEFA uses groups of 5 2. A lot of the nations that have entered will never post and never go into another WC 3. We would only have 240 games in the qualifying, instead of 450. IE almost half. It would make it a lot easier on you guys, and it would make it a lot easier on ME who has to do the tables.... So I would SERIOUSLY consider this proposal.

Well, the number of teams is up to TnUI, not the hosts (whoever they may be).
Ariddia
21-09-2003, 03:29
Bedi, the firsrt post reads
"Hosts:
Errinundera & The Belmore Family"

OK, it didn't say that when I looked at it before. Someone's toying with us here. In that case, I'm assuming the WCC hasn't yet reached a conclusion and are indecisive, until I hear otherwise. :?

We're not "indecisive", we're just collecting votes. Plus, certain members have changed their minds due to certain circumstances. I think we've collected seven votes right now, and things are pretty tied. So I want to be sure before announcing a result.
Spaam
21-09-2003, 03:31
Um, actually, I was pushing to have only 77 teams 15 groups of 5 plus the two hosts. A few reasons for this: 1. UEFA uses groups of 5 2. A lot of the nations that have entered will never post and never go into another WC 3. We would only have 240 games in the qualifying, instead of 450. IE almost half. It would make it a lot easier on you guys, and it would make it a lot easier on ME who has to do the tables.... So I would SERIOUSLY consider this proposal.

Well, the number of teams is up to TnUI, not the hosts (whoever they may be).

Well, it IS actually up to the hosts....

And TBF better not be hosting.... :evil:
21-09-2003, 04:14
So, should Errinundera celebrate?

or

Give a huge sigh of relief?

:?
21-09-2003, 04:16
And TBF better not be hosting.... :evil:

Don't be too hard on TBF. They've done a good job with the NSCL.

:wink:
21-09-2003, 04:25
I'm in already but I've never done a World Cup on NS before what do I do?


Hello! A little help!
Spaam
21-09-2003, 05:03
Let me just say that I hope that you will be taking the dominant role if you end up hosting, Erri :P

Hello! A little help!

Simply? You RP your matches. Do that and you will get into everybody's good books. Oh, and try not to be annoying. :P
21-09-2003, 05:05
ok thanks
21-09-2003, 05:18
Hello. We are a new nation and would like to compete in the upcoming World Cup. Is there a spot still available? Would the other nations mind playing a team of old men wearing pointy hats?

P.M. Felixopoulos of the Empire of Warnocks Wizards

Up the Blades!!!
Liverpool England
21-09-2003, 05:22
Currently there are 87 entrants including hosts..... 5 not confirmed among that 87. Enogh space? Should be. And, does this mean that Liverpool England and Timway definitely will not host? The nation spent almost £330 million upgrading our stadia...
Spaam
21-09-2003, 05:26
Not necessarily....

If there are 77 entrants, then it isn't guaranteed, and we'd need to know that you'd actually RP your matches.
21-09-2003, 05:33
Not necessarily....

If there are 77 entrants, then it isn't guaranteed, and we'd need to know that you'd actually RP your matches.

Sure, we'd be willing to RP our matches. I'll also have to have a word with the lads to wear their informal robes for the matches. Their formal ones are too heavy and flowing and may interfere with their passes and shots.

P.M. Felixopoulos of the Empire of Warnocks Wizards

Up the Blades!!!
The Belmore Family
21-09-2003, 08:39
If we dont let in the 5 *s then we can have 10 groups of 8 or 16 groups of 5. If we get 1 more enterant we can do 11 groups of 8.
Spaam
21-09-2003, 08:46
We will probably drop the ones that don't post.
And we won't be dropping Runaway Moose, and preferably not East Spaam.
And the problem with 16 or 11 groups is that we're taking 15 through. Unless you don't want the hosts to be autoqualifiers, in which case, we can have 16 groups.
10 groups of 8 mean 560 matches.... not nice.
You could have 14 groups of 6 though, and have the ftop twp autoqualify, but that would mean 420 matches.
I am still of the opinion that the 15 groups of 5 is the best idea.
The Belmore Family
21-09-2003, 09:00
ah, but 82 have currently signed up. How do we drop 7?
Spaam
21-09-2003, 09:05
1) Drop the latecomers

2) Drop all the nations that only have one post EVER. There's around 5 of them. And you only have to drop 5. 77 nations in total, but 75 for the qualifiers.
The Belmore Family
21-09-2003, 09:18
[quote="Total n Utter Insanity"]You know the drill.
Yeah, got to go now. Does somone want to finish off.
Hosts:
Errinundera(TBA) & The Belmore Family (15)

Teams:
Total n Utter Insanity(16)
Jekonuam(100)
Pavesia(39)
Bardai(80)
Rave Shentavo(100)
Snub Nose 38(11)
Defari(100)
Timway(39)
One Red Dot (95)
Spaam(TBA)
The Belmore Family(15)
Tanah Burung(27)
Oglethorpia(23)
Bedistan(TBA)
Ravenspire(29)
Busby(14)
WNA(100)
Ariddia(9)
West Ariddia(57)
Antaeus Rising(53)
Aquilla(45)
Akbarland(100)
Liverpool England(28)
Haraki(22)
The Lowland Clans
Dennisov
Halfassedstates
Errinundera
Pure Evil
LordSquall
BlackEagle Corporation
God Squad
Eauz
Giant Zucchini
Kingsford
Kaze Progressa
The Weegies
Commerce Heights
Sazland
Nikea
Nadaskor
Yentrofinova
Gilmeecia
Lemmitania
Quohog
Gesamtkuntswerk
Zeronia
Squornshelous
Carasek
Ineptia
Neolithica
Alasdair I Frosticus
Bullonien
Endray-Island
Jacktazea
Simba Polo
Slops Pit
Svecia
Jadonopolos
Mezitzia
Europa Brittania
Dark Outcasts
Demonic Beings
Zinkoland
Australian Marsupials
Northern Kings
Chronos Prime
Agnosticium
Audioslavia
Keyshona
Jangle Jangle Ridge
Oddslavo
Sliponia
N S A
Male 18
Parthenon
Consumer Engineering
Memeplex
Dead Man
Anti-Nazis
The Dragonian Empire
Hell Bovines

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New Pavesia*
Runaway Moose*
Alhana Catherine*
East Spaam*
Sycoes*

[5]

* Runaway Moose
* Errinundera
* Bedistan
* Dark Outcasts
* Halfassedstates
* Spaam
* Pure Evil
* Svecia
09 Ariddia
10 Malundar
11 Snub Nose 38
12 Squornshelous
13 Audioslavia
14 Busby
15 The Belmore Family
16 Total n Utter Insanity
20 Lemmitania
21 Giant Zucchini
22 Haraki
23 Oglethorpia
24 Lunatic Goofballs
25 Nonexistentcitygrad
26 Quohog
27 Tanah Burung
28 Liverpool England
29 Ravenspire
30 Kingsford
31 Timway
32 Europa Brittania
33 Melita and Gaulos
34 The Lowland Clans
35 Oddslavo
36 Eisen Engel
37 Freedom Country
38 Gesamtkuntswerk
39 Pavesia
40 Christofi
41 Freedomnessity
42 LordSquall
43 The Republic of Canada
44 South euroland
45 Aquilla
46 Gilmeecia
47 Demonic Beings
48 Rhaken Kull
49 GnOoLoCoPeLep
50 Jacktazea
51 Terranos
52 ENRG
53 Antaeus Rising
54 Commerce Heights
55 Dyelli Beybi
56 Tha Machine
57 West Ariddia
58 Davidus Voldemort
59 DePaul
60 Alasdair I Frosticus
61 Grand master Mark
62 God Squad
63 The Promise of Joshua
64 Middleton
65 Bullonien
66 North Russia
67 Sazland
68 The Weegies
69 New-Persia
70 Fart wars
71 Nikea
72 Mezitzia
73 Bizarro
74 Sliponia
75 Praetorian Rome
76 Intergallactic Hell
77 Crimina
78 Etria
79 Kerla
80 Bardai
81 Ribenia
82 Kaze Progressa
83 Nintendania
84 Zihkav
85 Eauz
86 Trafari
87 Alhana Catherine
88 Katimarie
89 Pablicosta
90 Krieland
91 Yatsumica
92 Estiv
Total n Utter Insanity
21-09-2003, 11:58
The moral of the story, never listen to me :lol:

Seriously Ariddia tells you who it is.

Oh, and those rankings are wrong TBF.
Bedistan
21-09-2003, 12:51
We're not "indecisive", we're just collecting votes.

Well, I didn't really mean "indecisive". Actually, I figured you didn't have all the votes in yet. Sorry about that. This is what I get for listening to TnUI :P (j/k)
21-09-2003, 12:56
Dear Madam / Sir,

I wish to make a number of points regarding the process for selecting the hosts of WC8 and the organisation of the WC8 groups.

1. Saying that one bid is successful; then another; and then nobody, is unfair on all the parties concerned. All it will achieve is pissing the losers off and diminish the enthusiasm of the winners. When I realized Errinundera had suddenly overturned the hopes of Oglethorpia and Bedistan I felt terrible. And they had done such a cool logo! Now I am just irritated. Which I suppose is an improvement. WC6 was seriously spoiled by indecision and tardiness (mainly due to the disappearance of the hosts). Don't let WC8 start off that way.

I did not see page 1 when it said Oglethorpia and Bedistan were the hosts. If TnUI did it as a joke I think it is a poor joke.

If the WCC believed initially that O/B were to be the hosts then I believe we should stick with that.

2. I think that too many entrants have been led to believe they have successfully applied for WC8 to now cut it back to 77. For sure, TnUI spelled out early on that it would be 77 but then he continued to accept people. Anyone included in page 1 has a right to believe they will be playing. (Just like posting who will host.)

3. 15 groups is good. The catch is that it cannot be divided by 2, ie each host looking after an equal number of groups. I would be happy, if I were host, to have to qualify. If hosts were included in qualifying then 80 (16 x 5 teams) or 96 (16 x 6) teams would be good.

4. If Errinuundera were to host we would expect the right, in conjunction with TBF, to organise the groups.

Yours faithfully.

filthyl
Errinundera's Protector of Sport.
Spaam
21-09-2003, 13:02
The 80 teams does mean more teams can play. But it would be a serious shame if the hosts (Erri and TBF, or Ogle and Bedi), did not qualify, and I would not like to see that happen.

I don't think TnUI did it as a joke. That was the consensus before the actual votes were cast, and it is a VERY close race.

Personally, I would like to see you host Erri, even though I support Ogle and Bedi. I just have reservations about TBF's abilities. I could, and probably would, be proved massively wrong. But I would like to see the World Cup be put into VERY trustworthy hands, especially after I let all of you down.
Bedistan
21-09-2003, 13:13
1. Saying that one bid is successful; then another; and then nobody, is unfair on all the parties concerned. All it will achieve is pissing the losers off and diminish the enthusiasm of the winners. When I realized Errinundera had suddenly overturned the hopes of Oglethorpia and Bedistan I felt terrible. And they had done such a cool logo! Now I am just irritated. Which I suppose is an improvement. WC6 was seriously spoiled by indecision and tardiness (mainly due to the disappearance of the hosts). Don't let WC8 start off that way.

I agree with this fully, and I'd feel the same way were it the other way around (i.e. Ogle and myself suddenly overturning Errinundera and TBF).

I did not see page 1 when it said Oglethorpia and Bedistan were the hosts. If TnUI did it as a joke I think it is a poor joke.

To my knowledge it was only up for 60-90 minutes. The next time I checked, TnUI had changed it.

4. If Errinuundera were to host we would expect the right, in conjunction with TBF, to organise the groups.

I'm pretty sure whoever hosts has that full right, so no worries there. ;)

I don't think TnUI did it as a joke. That was the consensus before the actual votes were cast, and it is a VERY close race.

I definitely know it's a close race -- basically I'd say it's just about 50/50 between us from what I've heard over the last couple weeks. That makes it even more important to be certain...

If it turns out that Oglethorpia and I do not win the bid, I shall fully support Errinundera and the Belmore Family. I have very high confidence in Errinundera's abilities, and TBF has experience of a sort with the Champions League, I believe.
21-09-2003, 13:14
The 80 teams does mean more teams can play. But it would be a serious shame if the hosts (Erri and TBF, or Ogle and Bedi), did not qualify, and I would not like to see that happen.

I don't think TnUI did it as a joke. That was the consensus before the actual votes were cast, and it is a VERY close race.

Personally, I would like to see you host Erri, even though I support Ogle and Bedi. I just have reservations about TBF's abilities. I could, and probably would, be proved massively wrong. But I would like to see the World Cup be put into VERY trustworthy hands, especially after I let all of you down.

Perhaps in future, nations only make individual applications and the WCC select the 2 best individual applications.

In the tradition of One Red Dot's notion of fair play Errinundera withdraws its application to host WC8. We sincerely offer our apologies to The Belmore Family for any disappointment this may cause them. We will consider applying to host WC9.

filthyl
Errinundera's Protector of Sport
21-09-2003, 13:26
Thanks for your support, Bedistan.

If it turns out that Oglethorpia and I do not win the bid, I shall fully support Errinundera and the Belmore Family. I have very high confidence in Errinundera's abilities, and TBF has experience of a sort with the Champions League, I believe.

By withdrawing our application, WC8 can now proceed with, at most, only one disappointed applicant (TBF). The WCC can now make a consensual decision.

Viva le MC8!

Bedistan and Oglethorpia have my full backing and enthusiasm.
Spaam
21-09-2003, 13:27
Are you sure about this Erri? I do not wish a potentially good partnership to go to waste, and though it might be a close race, you would have every right to win the bid. And though I might not seem to like TBF that much, I do not wish him to be disadvantaged by your incredibly good heart :)

However, if you are unfortunately absolutely sure, I will be the first to put myself 100% behind you to host WCIX.
Bedistan
21-09-2003, 13:29
However, if you are unfortunately absolutely sure, I will be the first to put myself 100% behind you to host WCIX.

And I will be the second, you can count on that.
21-09-2003, 13:30
Personally, I would like to see you host Erri, even though I support Ogle and Bedi... But I would like to see the World Cup be put into VERY trustworthy hands...

Thanks, Spaam.

I think the matter can be resolved satisfactorily now.

:)
Spaam
21-09-2003, 13:31
Hehehe.... I think now all that needs to be done is for you to find a partner, because I think you have it in the bag. And the hosts for WC8 haven't even been officially finalised yet either! LOL
21-09-2003, 13:33
You know that the World Cup has only 32 teams in it in real life. You should make all the countries (except the host and winner of the previous world cup) have to qualify for the world cup. The world cup in real life comprises of 8 groups of 4 in which the top 2 from each qualify for the 2nd round (leaving 16 teams). After this 8 teams are in the Quarter finals then followed by the Semi-Final with 4 teams and finally the final.
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 13:35
You know that the World Cup has only 32 teams in it in real life. You should make all the countries (except the host and winner of the previous world cup) have to qualify for the world cup and have 8 groups of 4 in which the top 2 from each qualify for the 2nd round (leaving 16 teams). After this 8 teams are in the Quarter finals then followed by the Semi-Final with 4 teams and finally the final.
In RL the Cup Holder (previous winner) no longer automatically qualifies. I think it's just the host (or, as in the last RL WC, hosts)
Also, if you read the WC threads, that's how we're doing it (32, 16, 8, etc). We are including up front the WC qualifiers - and the discussion about 80, 92, 75, etc is about how many to have in the qualifying stage.
21-09-2003, 13:36
As far as I can remember, France qualified because they won the World Cup in France in 98.
Spaam
21-09-2003, 13:37
You know that the World Cup has only 32 teams in it in real life. You should make all the countries (except the host and winner of the previous world cup) have to qualify for the world cup. The world cup in real life comprises of 8 groups of 4 in which the top 2 from each qualify for the 2nd round (leaving 16 teams). After this 8 teams are in the Quarter finals then followed by the Semi-Final with 4 teams and finally the final.

Well done Sherlock! This is how it is here too. And no, the had to qualify. But it wasn't hard because they are one of the 3 best teams in Europe.
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 13:37
As far as I can remember, France qualified because they won the World Cup in France in 98.
That is true. And, it is the last time it will be. Go to the FIFA website and check on it if you like.
21-09-2003, 13:39
nah, couldnt be bothered. damn laziness. So, whos favourites to win this World Cup and who is hosting.
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 13:39
Hmmm...either Spaam or I am / is wrong. Given my record, and the fact that Spaam just beat SN38 - my money's on Spaam.
Total n Utter Insanity
21-09-2003, 13:39
I was posting who was ahead in the vote. Really don't listen to me.

Perhaps in future, nations only make individual applications and the WCC select the 2 best individual applications.

I like this idea a lot. Also we should do something about the WCC, it is getting very big, making it harder to collect all the votes.

You'll have my individual support for WC9.
One Red Dot
21-09-2003, 13:40
As far as I can remember, France qualified because they won the World Cup in France in 98.

We used to that in the past world cups, bringing back the top few who made it to the semis or finals. But we don't do that anymore, it's more fair like that because if the top few are really that good, then there won't be any problem for them passing qualifying, won't they? (Of course there would be problems but that's another story altogether :wink: )
21-09-2003, 13:40
I was on the FIFA website yesterday and was delighted to see that Ireland r ranked 13th, good old Brian Kerr
Spaam
21-09-2003, 13:41
Hmmm...either Spaam or I am / is wrong. Given my record, and the fact that Spaam just beat SN38 - my money's on Spaam.

A) I was lucky
B) I have my money on you :P
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 13:42
nah, couldnt be bothered. damn laziness. So, whos favourites to win this World Cup and who is hosting.
Hosts for this cup (WC7) are Lemmitania and Audioslavia. Favorites - well, go back a couple pages - we're down to 8, and those matches should be RPed today. The numbers in paranthesis ( ) are the current world ranking of the sides. Pick one for yourself. I'm going with Runaway Moose - I have my reasons. :wink:
Bedistan
21-09-2003, 13:45
Favorites - well, go back a couple pages - we're down to 8, and those matches should be RPed today.

Of course, SN38 means to go back a couple pages in the WC7 thread, not this one. ;)

The teams remaining are:
Bedistan (24)
Pure Evil (30-something)
Errinundera (3)
Runaway Moose
Svecia
Dark Outcasts
Halfassedstates (4)
Spaam (2)
[Note: I don't know all the ranks offhand; those are the ones I do know.]
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 13:46
I was posting who was ahead in the vote. Really don't listen to me.

Perhaps in future, nations only make individual applications and the WCC select the 2 best individual applications.

I like this idea a lot. Also we should do something about the WCC, it is getting very big, making it harder to collect all the votes.

You'll have my individual support for WC9.

WCC should vote earlier - give yourselves more time.

The only problem w/selecting "any two" is the possibility that:
1 - they won't be able to work well together (slim possibility)
2 - they will both succumb to the Curse o' the Cup (more probable) :?
Spaam
21-09-2003, 13:47
Like you and Jackass?

Or anyone and Jackass for that matter ;)
Bedistan
21-09-2003, 13:47
I'm going with Runaway Moose - I have my reasons. :wink:

I'm still in it, of course, but personally I'm going with Spaam to win the Cup, with Errinundera in second.
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 13:48
Of course, SN38 means to go back a couple pages in the WC7 thread, not this one. ;)


D'oh!

(apologies to Homer Simpson)
21-09-2003, 13:49
Can Dodgeville Sports TV (DSTV) buy the rights to show all the matches live on TV.
Spaam
21-09-2003, 13:49
I'm going with Runaway Moose - I have my reasons. :wink:

I'm still in it, of course, but personally I'm going with Spaam to win the Cup, with Errinundera in second.

To put it lightly, NOT BLOODY LIKELY

I'm going for Erri, personally, with Half second
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 13:51
Can Dodgeville Sports TV (DSTV) buy the rights to show all the matches live on TV.
Well...I don't think so. Asteroid Sports Network (ASPN) would definitely object, and I think there are seveal other networks who would object also.
21-09-2003, 13:52
Can they have the rights to show some of the matches.
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 13:54
Can they have the rights to show some of the matches.
That, I'm sure, is possible. It's the exclusivity thing that won't fly.
21-09-2003, 13:56
Well i'll be watching the World Cup and enjoying it. Good luck. Hopefully Dodgeville can enter it next time because the team has improved immensly by winning their last 8 games in a row. the only downside is that 5 referees of the Dodgeville Premier Division and 1st Division were shot dead at matches last year, these actions must be stopped.
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 14:07
Spaam - You were right - I was right. I went to the FIFA site, and checked. France auto-qualified for Korea-Japan 2002.

"Exempted from the competition's qualifying phase, France have been restricted to measuring their sharpness in friendly matches over the last two years."
Bedistan
21-09-2003, 14:08
Well i'll be watching the World Cup and enjoying it. Good luck. Hopefully Dodgeville can enter it next time because the team has improved immensly by winning their last 8 games in a row. the only downside is that 5 referees of the Dodgeville Premier Division and 1st Division were shot dead at matches last year, these actions must be stopped.

If you want, you can enter this one -- I believe there are still a few open spots...
Snub Nose 38
21-09-2003, 14:10
Well i'll be watching the World Cup and enjoying it. Good luck. Hopefully Dodgeville can enter it next time because the team has improved immensly by winning their last 8 games in a row. the only downside is that 5 referees of the Dodgeville Premier Division and 1st Division were shot dead at matches last year, these actions must be stopped.

If you want, you can enter this one -- I believe there are still a few open spots...This one being WC8. WC7 is in it's final stages, and WC8 will begin very soon thereafter. Well, in RL. In NS time, it'll be 4 years, of course.
Spaam
21-09-2003, 14:11
Spaam - You were right - I was right. I went to the FIFA site, and checked. France auto-qualified for Korea-Japan 2002.

"Exempted from the competition's qualifying phase, France have been restricted to measuring their sharpness in friendly matches over the last two years."

WOOHOO! I was right :D Thats all that counts baby ;)

And since you look like you're hosting, it'll be up to you Bedi, but seriously consider the 77 limit....
One Red Dot
21-09-2003, 14:24
I'm going for:

1st Spaam
2nd Errinundera
3rd Dark Outcasts
4th Bedistan
Spaam
21-09-2003, 14:27
Oh COME ON! I'm going to get kicked out already.... sheesh.... :P
Bedistan
21-09-2003, 14:38
Oh COME ON! I'm going to get kicked out already.... sheesh.... :P

You have no confidence in yourself, Spaam :P

Also, ORD's prediction looks pretty similar to mine (not quite the same, but close).
The Belmore Family
21-09-2003, 15:17
Huh, what's going on?
The Belmore Family
21-09-2003, 15:35
. And though I might not seem to like TBF that much, I do not wish him to be disadvantaged by your incredibly good heart :)

Ahh... thanks Spaam. I think that WC8 should go to the best people be it Erri and I or Bedi and Ogli.
Halfassedstates
21-09-2003, 15:47
Oh COME ON! I'm going to get kicked out already.... sheesh.... :P

liar :cry: :cry: :cry:
Spaam
21-09-2003, 15:50
I didn't mean to! I'm SORRY! :cry:

Thats twice in a row....
Tanah Burung
21-09-2003, 20:17
This has all been a bit unfortunate on the hosting question. The thing to remember is only Ariddia can announce who has been chosen as host.

We really need to stay away from posting the "who is ahead" thing, Erri's right it's hard on the potential hosts. The result, like Ariddia said, is delayed because it's close -- there are more than one strong candidates. I'm fully confident that either one of the leading bids would do a great job.

Otherwise:
- co-hosting should only be done if the two co-hosts have chosen to work together. The WCC put Kingsford & Spaam together and that didn't work, but Lemm & Audio chose each other and this Cup has worked very well. A co-hosting bid and a bid to host alone (esp with Spaam taking care of tables to reduce the host's work load) are both equally valid, but i don't want to tell anyone they have to co-host.
- i agree the WCC is getting unwieldy, and honestly i don't even know who got votes (did Spaam & Kingsford?). In the WC9 sign-up, let's list WCC members in the opening post as well. We also might want to think about dropping WCC members and limiting the committee numbers (say Ariddia, TnUI, TB, Lemm, Audio -- those who have in fact hosted and are still active -- plus future actual hosts)
- the number of teams allowed in, organization of groups, and all such decisions should be left up to the hosts, like it always has been. (Personally, i really hope Hell Bovines gets in, as a strong RP'er and a fun country)
Quohog
21-09-2003, 20:20
I'm going with Runaway Moose - I have my reasons. :wink:

I'm still in it, of course, but personally I'm going with Spaam to win the Cup, with Errinundera in second.

To put it lightly, NOT BLOODY LIKELY

I'm going for Erri, personally, with Half second

Snubs going with Runaway because of some good old time nepostism, but I'm down with that.