NationStates Jolt Archive

You know, the title that NationStates has given your country, (New York Times democracy, dictatorship, etc)? I don't like mine (Corporate Bordello), which NS gave me because I wouldn't give Book Publishing workers a 20 % raise over 2 years...lol

It's not just that 1 issue, other factors will've contributed to your title. Cutting funds makes you less corporate in my book. I'm perfectly happy with my New York Times Democracy.

I take great offense at my nation being labeled a "Corporate Police State". Romanar has fair elections between several corporate-sponsered candidates.

The UN and the WA have been trying for years to stick us with the Anarchy label with their crazy laws -- and they've succeeded not just a few times before -- but we've managed to hang on to our current Corporate Bordello status for awhile now. PepsiCo be praised.

The WA recently knocked me out of the Moralistic Democracy category I want and into Inoffensive Centerist Democracy.

I recently became a "New York Times Democracy" due to the latest WA resolution (which I had unsuccessfully voted against). I was a "Corporate Bordello", but my goal is "Capitalist Paradise".

I don't really. I'm "Liberal Democratic Socialists" but I tend to be against socialism and more open market. But, for the most part I suppose I do.

personally, i like my title "capitalist paradise" because i am really trying to become a so called Paradise. if you don't like your title, make different choices in the issues selection for crying out loud... or just suck it up!

I just dismiss any issues that come up that may change my nation's government. Pretty simple stuff.

Doesn't bother me really. Mine's some dictatorship probably.

if you don't like your title, make different choices in the issues selection for crying out loud... or just suck it up!

Actually I'm working on doing just that, I just haven't gotten the issues I need yet.

Well, the corporate bordello title is gone, now it's "New York Times Democracy" again

As a longtime RPer, I've never let my government category dictate how I RP my nation.

You can answer issues in such a way that could suggest you're a tinpot dictator, but RP as a liberal democracy, or vice versa.

That said, I never let what category I had bother me more than two seconds.

And that's what's wrong with a large chunk of NS roleplay these days. If stats don't matter, what's the point to having a nation on NS at all? Just register on the forum and claim to have a nation of 12 billion with a Super-Fucking-Frightening economy. I mean, what's the point? Ignoring stats is just a clever way for substandard gameplayers to overcompensate for their deficiencies. If you want to be a communist nation, adjust your stats; don't Godmode. And if it wrecks your economy, don't even try to tell us your piddling GDP of $45 billion can possibly support a 3.5-million-strong army.

I've tried to "collect them all", but there are some I have never gotten to, and for months I have aimed at "Psychotic Dictatorship" and just can't seem to abuse my people enough.

And that's what's wrong with a large chunk of NS roleplay these days. If stats don't matter, what's the point to having a nation on NS at all? Just register on the forum and claim to have a nation of 12 billion with a Super-Fucking-Frightening economy. I mean, what's the point? Ignoring stats is just a clever way for substandard gameplayers to overcompensate for their deficiencies. If you want to be a communist nation, adjust your stats; don't Godmode. And if it wrecks your economy, don't even try to tell us your piddling GDP of $45 billion can possibly support a 3.5-million-strong army.

You completely missed my point.

I didn't say stats don't matter. I was writing specifically about how the game rates your answers to questions, not statistics such as populations or GDPs.

THOSE I generally adhere to. I'd make an exception if I'm RPing my nation hitting an economic crisis (look up the Panic of 2006 RP I and others did). But I'm not going to say I have a 45 million-soldier army if I don't have the GDP to support one.

But if the way I answer questions says my nation's a corporate bordello and I don't RP that way, that shouldn't mean I'm wanking or Godmoding.

There is a difference between my RP government and my official category. RP-wise, Romanar is a constitutional republic. But it's also corrupt, and I answer the issues that way. Some of those answers booted me into "Corp. Police State" category, but every Romanarian will swear that it's a republic.

Father Knows Best State, lol wow thats weird category, guess it's because of having my political freedoms outlawed

Capitalism be praised!

You completely missed my point.There's a lot of that going around.

What I meant was, if you can so easily ignore the game's parameters on freedoms and how your government is categorized, why not ignore the population and economy stats as well? If you want to RP as a Civil Rights Lovefest-type of regime, but currently you're a Corrupt Dictatorship, then it shouldn't be so hard just to start answering Daily Issues differently until the discrepancy is sorted out, right? Unless you're worried that by changing your government, you'll also endanger your economy, which is why I suspect so many RPers simply elect to ignore their governmental stats.

Hail the communist regime!

I'm trying to get "Benevolent Dictatorship" status but I've only ever gotten my civil rights rating to "Good." I'm very bad at being liberal. :p

What I meant was, if you can so easily ignore the game's parameters on freedoms and how your government is categorized, why not ignore the population and economy stats as well?

That sounds like a slippery slope argument, in all honesty. I was simply making a point about my opinion about government categories.

We could go on and on about various aspects of the game we love or hate. We could go on a discussion about good/bad RPing. But I was trying to talk about one specific aspect of the game.

Psychotic Dictatorship FTW!!!

I get a little irritated when they refer to CEOs in my country, in the issues, as Korintar has no private corporations of sizes worth mentioning. Furthermore, just because my country is a socialist country does not mean everything is run by some worthless sovbour bureacracy. We use the participatory economic system instead of the traditional, corrupt power structures in capitalism and communism. The workers and consumers collectively bargain, I mean literally negotiate- no free market voodoo, to determine prices and amounts to produce. We have councils that regulate and moderate disputes between producer and consumer cooperatives. So our economy does not stagnate, it does grow and shrink, only not to the extremes seen in capitalism and we think it more efficient than traditional communism. Also the only way I can see that the government is large, is that the 2 billion people who make up Korintar are the primary legislators, judges, and soldiers. We do not live in utter anarchy, btw, there are traditional law codes that have been put into writing as official laws and a written constitution that outlines checks and balances for the various social institutions.

I ignore completely NS desc as apparently "Anarchy" equates "Anarcho-capitalism", besides all the obviously non-serious descriptions embedded with them. Just for the sake of amusement, I'd rather for it to be like, and ignore completely civil liberties because they're simply connected with political freedoms, and government control should be measured(ranging from statelessness to full government control) while economics would be between "focus on equality" and "focus on free market or order" :

Libertarian <=====> Authoritarian

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Communist Anarchist - Democrat Socialist - Leninist - Stalinist

Mutualist Anarchist - Social Democracy - Populist Dictatorship - Left-wing Radical

Egotist Anarchist - Traditional Democracy - Fascist - National-Socialist

Anarcho-Capitalist - Liberal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Liberalism) Democracy - Neoliberal Dictatorship - Corporate Police State

I just posted this out of fun, I know it won't lead nowhere.

That is a real interesting way to put things so my nation would be, in your book: a fusion of Mutual and Communist Anarchists combined with Democratic Socialists and Social Democrats. It reminds me of holisticpolitics.org. Check it out if your ever interested Third Spanish States:)

I have the Corporate Bordello title, and i dont have a goal. However I like that title.

I was happy w/ my Psychotic Dictatorship till I decided I wanted to build up my economy. It only took one issue in favor of the economy to be recategorized to Iron Fist Consumerist. I'm chill w/ that, I'd just like to keep it that way. It doesn't take much for drastic changes to be made to your statistics. It's all about patience.

Right now I'm trying to get my Civil Rights rating down to "Outlawed". The cosmetics of my nation aren't quite ideal yet.