NationStates Jolt Archive


How does 100% Income tax work?

Warpsteria
11-10-2008, 05:49
I mean, my country is socialist, but 100% income tax for those with higher income is kind of... odd.
Forensatha
11-10-2008, 06:01
Realistically? It would require a true communist state for it to work.
Warpsteria
11-10-2008, 06:07
Would they basically be on welfare, and never receive the money?
Jerriano
11-10-2008, 06:10
The government takes all the money. What, are you thick?
Warpsteria
11-10-2008, 06:33
>.>

I'm just saying that it seems really unrealistic, even for Nationstates.

Anyway, thanks for replying.
Forensatha
11-10-2008, 06:34
It can be done realistically, but getting the system into place has, historically, proven to be... problematic.

Let's just say that it's only likely on NS anymore.
Intracircumcordei
11-10-2008, 23:22
I mean, my country is socialist, but 100% income tax for those with higher income is kind of... odd.


ICCD does it this way:

ICCD manages a quota system. Effectively it distibutes production of quotaed items. Items produced over quota can be sold for personal gain.. however anyone can petititon the courts for use of any property in a "better way"

eg, Joe blow has a car.. but only drives 1 KM to work each day and is perfectly healthy. While Russ is 20 KM from his work.

Russ can ask the court to give him permission to use Joe blows car because he has a greater need for it. The judge could instead say OK but you must also pick up joe on the way to work ect...

Or say this guy owns a big field but doesn't know how to farm.. anne and frank who are professional farmers can ask the courts to have use of the guys field.

THe government gaurentees basic needs to all citizens who cooperate with the system, insuring housing, food, clothing etc.. People can buy what they would like with the income they generate or are given by the private/public sector - but they can never "fully own it" they essentially have it until it is needed more by someone or something else.

The courts are publically elected democratically, then they "elect from their own ranks the upper courts" meanwhile there are other systems that intertwine, however it is a democratic system.

Also industries have voice in government - through guildes and a very powerful industries panal that sort of manages the infrastructure services / industry and other departments - essentially the people who manage their businesses well end up running the countries industry and setting its laws etc.. for the most part, however the courts can remove their "management" of places should they loose the publics and the publically elected judges support --- etc.. they of course can appeal the choices. But the Courts have ultimate say in who gets what - while there are various departments that manage the governments industries and resources.

I can explain in more detail but that is basically it.

One of the catches is foreign currency and import and export which are managed in a way that profit can be derived, specifically based on overseas accounts and currency valuation by the Dian Tresury because currencies can be undervalued or overvalued.

People can have stuff, but they only keep it if no one knows they have it or no one else can use it better.

Also there is a huge greymarket/blackmarket.
Lionslicer
12-10-2008, 01:39
Everything would be free.

You would basically work for free stuff...

I guess it's like a communist stuff.
Forensatha
12-10-2008, 02:00
Everything would be free.

You would basically work for free stuff...

I guess it's like a communist stuff.

It is a communist system.
Urgench
12-10-2008, 03:53
Or an Anarchist-syndicalist system (where there is no currency of course).
Wachichi
12-10-2008, 16:51
in such a system, the people wouldn't make any money directly, but would rely on the government to give them everything from food, to housing to clothing. basically, everything would be free and without cost because the government would cover the costs of everything.
[NS]Mennostan
13-10-2008, 00:13
It is a communist system.

Well once you eliminate money, it's no longer communism. It's communalism.