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Confused about goverment catagories

Broughdom
15-05-2008, 20:17
Okay, this is a little issue I have with this thread - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392208 and the way in which government catagories are calculated. Someone who has more knowledge of how the game works in detail may be able to help me out.

My issue is this - Where is the line drawn to distinguish a high freedom from a medium one, and a medium one to a low one?

The main thing I'm finding hard to understand is that some nations are catagorised as an Anarchy for having three high freedoms, but their freedoms are in some cases lower than mine, yet I am still a Civil Rights Lovefest.

Maybe an example might help me explain better:

According to the thread, to be an Anarchy you must have three high freedoms. My Civil Rights and Political Freedoms are both Superb, and my Economy is Powerhouse. (http://www.nationstates.net/broughdom) Again going back to the thread (near the bottom) it says that Superb is (11) for Rights & Freedoms, and Powerhouse is (13). So my nations freedoms collectively add up to 11+11+13=35.
Now, take another nation in my region who is an Anarchy (http://www.nationstates.net/lepredykes) He has Excellent Civil Rights (10), Very Strong Economy (11) and Superb Political Freedoms (11). So collectively he is 10+11+11=32.
These two other nations (Jokelahoma and Alibertaria) are also Anarchy's, yet both their economies are only Very Strong (11), two less than mine. When added to the other freedoms, one nation has a higher number than mine, the other has a lower.

So there are three nations who are anarchys, two of which have a lower overall score than I do, and one of which has lower or the same in everything. So how can someone who has lower or equal freedoms be an Anarchy, if I'm not? According to the thread, as long as all freedoms are high, anarchy status is given. Therefore the nation in my region which has lower or equal freedoms than me should be the benchmark for an anarchy. So how come I am not one?

I am a Civil Rights Lovefest, which according to the thread says I have High Social, Medium Economic, High Political. This would mean that a powerhouse economy is "medium". This is clearly not the case, because all the nations I have mentioned above have lower economy ratings than I do, yet are still anarchy's (which, remember, requires all ratings to be high).

So back to my original question. What defines a high freedom according to that thread? Going on current nations ratings that I have mentioned, I should be an Anarchy. If anyone could fill me in I'd be really grateful. I want to get to understand how the game works more now - I've been on it long enough.

Wow long post, sorry. Thanks.

PS. I've just thought, the only thing I can think of that would completely throw everything I have just said out of the water, is if when the thread says, "High Social, Medium Economic, High Political (or whatever it may be) for freedoms, they do not directly relate to a nations Civil Rights, Economy and Political Freedoms catagories. If this is indeed the case then I will feel so dumb for writing all that above. Oh well, I'm sure I'll find out soon. Cheers.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
15-05-2008, 23:18
Actual figures are behind the scene numbers that are viewable only by the admin and the actual computer doing the categorization. Or at least that's how I understand it to be.

National categories are only rough estimates of what your government is; you don't even have to accept them, you can role play an entirely different type of government. You do not have to be limited by what the game calls you.

For example, my government is categorized as a Corporate Police State, yet I role play it as being a hereditary semi-absolute monarchy with a tricameral legislature and an appointed judiciary (the fact that the emperor is also the ceo of the nation's largest corporation is purely a coincidence.)
The Most Glorious Hack
16-05-2008, 04:28
Actual figures are behind the scene numbers that are viewable only by the admin and the actual computer doing the categorization.Actually, Game Moderators can see them to, we're just a little fuzzy on how exactly the results are figured.


Still, keep in mind that while the player may see "Above Average" for Civil Rights, that category is determined by many, many factors. Things such as public nudity laws, abortion laws, free speech, so on and so forth. Also, the chart and breakdowns that everyone uses are not official. They're unofficial estimates made by players. That's why we've never given an exact definition of low, medium, and high.

Finally, the category is picked by the raw stats behind the nation, not the estimates on the front page.
Broughdom
16-05-2008, 11:16
Okay, many thanks for helping me to understand that :)
St Edmund
16-05-2008, 18:27
Also, the Economy rating that's shown on each nation's pages is its Economic Strength rather than its Economic Freedom...