NationStates Jolt Archive

I Am Sending out a call to all socialists, Marxists, Communists, Stalinists ect
to unite under 1 Region or Banner!
I promise to be a dedicated responsive founder!
Join me in the fight against oppresion!
http://www.nationstates.net/05473/page=display_region
Telegram Recruitment is Slow so i Have chosen Forum Recruitment.
Please Respond comrades!

Erm... So you want marxist open free localised political system states (which communist really is) with totalitarian regimes based on Ivan the Terrible?

You realise the 2 systems are fundamentally opposites right?

I seek to unite opposites in the fight against a greater evil!
I dont care if they are truly stalinistic Totalarists!
they can change their ways.
if they dont then they can go and join the dictators club (non exsistant)

To marxist/communists/socialists, a totalitarian state is the greatest evil.

Marxist/Communists/Socialist would work with capitalists to defeat Totalitarian states and introduce democracy and then once democracy has taken place start influencing them slower to become marxist/communist/socialist

Totalitarian states never work.I'm a communist,but I'm a libertarian one.There's no point in forcing rules on people,it gives them more reason not to follow them.Then you get uprisings and shizzle.

I do not seek to condone these people (totalarists)
They are a minority in Ns but i am in need of region members in order to compete with anti-socialist regions (there are 6 of them my inteligencia has identified)
I seek to guide them on the road to paradise (socialism)
if they join and fail to change i will revoke their union member status (ban them)
I am yet to have any totalarists join me yet!
Totalitarianism has worked in the instance of Cuba however.
It is A Totalitarian state based on communist ideals.
Fidel Castro doesn't live in a palace.

I do not seek to condone these people (totalarists)
They are a minority in Ns but i am in need of region members in order to compete with anti-socialist regions (there are 6 of them my inteligencia has identified)
I seek to guide them on the road to paradise (socialism)
if they join and fail to change i will revoke their union member status (ban them)
I am yet to have any totalarists join me yet!
Totalitarianism has worked in the instance of Cuba however.
It is A Totalitarian state based on communist ideals.
Fidel Castro doesn't live in a palace.

You fool.

I do not seek to condone these people

However, you will revoke their union member status? You totalitarion!!111!! LOLZ BALSS TO BUZH!!!

Worked in Cuba? Oh yeah. Those hunger strikes. The poor. The lack of electrictity. The call for democracy. Oh, heres a lovely quote from their constitution:

"None of the freedoms which are recognized for citizens can be exercised contrary to... the existence and objectives of the socialist state, or contrary to the decision of the Cuban people to build socialism and communism. Violations of this principle can be punished by law".

'Com'un guys! Lets catch some flights! Quick, quick the pre-teen socialist utopia awaits!

Liberals, Conservatives, Centrists, Social Democrats, Fascists and Republicans awaaaaay!

ED: Apologies for not writing in character but this sudo-youth-socialism bugs me.

Hold up, Cuba gets better!

''The Cuban government has been accused of numerous human rights abuses, including torture, arbitrary imprisonment, unfair trials, and extra-judicial executions. Dissidents complain of harassment and torture. While the Cuban Government placed a moratorium on capital punishment in 2001, it made an exception for perpetrators of an armed hijacking 2 years later. Groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have issued reports on Cuban prisoners of conscience. Cuba denies the International Committee of the Red Cross access to its prisons. Freedom House gives Cuba the worst possible score, 7 out of 7, for both political rights and civil liberties.''

You fool.

I do not seek to condone these people

However, you will revoke their union member status? You totalitarion!!111!! LOLZ BALSS TO BUZH!!!

Worked in Cuba? Oh yeah. Those hunger strikes. The poor. The lack of electrictity. The call for democracy. Oh, heres a lovely quote from their constitution:

"None of the freedoms which are recognized for citizens can be exercised contrary to... the existence and objectives of the socialist state, or contrary to the decision of the Cuban people to build socialism and communism. Violations of this principle can be punished by law".

'Com'un guys! Lets catch some flights! Quick, quick the pre-teen socialist utopia awaits!

Liberals, Conservatives, Centrists, Social Democrats, Fascists and Republicans awaaaaay!

ED: Apologies for not writing in character but this sudo-youth-socialism bugs me.
Regardless of Cuba's Working conditions and what you hear from the news in a contry that is possibly filling your head with propaganda you interpret as truth, the fact is Fidel castro plays by the rules!
He does not enjoy a Luxurious life like josef stalin may have!
He lives in conditions that other cubans bear with aswell!
i mean I could Take any shit country around the world and use it as an
example against its form of government!
'O noes Iraq+Afghanistan=Capitalist now? But i thought they were shit countries that had 3 world living standards and were unstable!
Iraq is on the verge of civil war!
Look at indonesia!
Corrupt, democracy with shit living conditions aswell!
And what about Mexico!
They have the most polluted city in the World! Mexico City!
How shit is That
I could keep going on and on and on......
And whats that i hear about human rights Abusers ,American!
I supponse Abu Grabe and Guantanamo Dont count then?
Imprisonment for 4 years without charges isnt unfair?
Torture and Sleep Deprivation are only allowed to america and no-one else?
The only human rights abusers in cuba are the Marines in Guantanamo bay
(which is in cuba if you were unaware!)

I'm wholly against a lot about what the US does. I've been a member of GreenPeace sor several years and a member of the ol' Liberal Democrat Party. In the US eye's im a dirty 'lefty' although in the UK I'm a moderate.

The counter to all the shit and violence in the world is not Socialism.

I never said a bad word about Castro either. You come across as a hamster on crack or something, you're very excited over it all. Sit in your home and cuddle a red flag.

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Erm? Only human rights abusers in America? Hilarious. Fricking Hilarious. Look around you. I'm sure some pressure group could list you dozens of human rights abusers as countries on a whole. Sure the US *may* be included, as would the UK, but many many others would be to. Again, go cuddle a red flag.

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Heres a group I am passionate about: Amnesty International. They understand a lot of people cause crimes, and not just the US. Infact, this oughta make you think twice before launching into the 'OH NOES USAZ!!! EV1L KANIVALS!111' arguement. I understand they break a lot of rules and its wrong but so do numerous others. Listed too:

''Conscientious objectors continued to be imprisoned in the Russian Federation, and there were numerous allegations of torture and ill-treatment in detention -- ethnic minorities were particularly affected. Prisoners awaiting trial were held in conditions amounting to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment, sometimes resulting in deaths.''

''In Yugoslavia, torture and ill-treatment by police were widespread; most victims were ethnic Albanians in Kosovo province.''

''In Israel and the Occupied Territories, at least 300 Palestinians were administratively detained, and at least 600 received unfair trials.''

And to me the actual biggest evil in the world:

'' Governments throughout the region often used repressive state security laws to imprison and silence their critics. In China, the authorities continued to jail human rights activists and others brave enough to voice a dissenting opinion, while thousands more remained in prison. In the Xinjiang and Tibet Autonomous Regions, the authorities harshly repressed people calling for more religious and political freedoms.''

Free Tibet.

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Get a good arguement. Spell to a good level. Cuddle a red flag. Come back. Make us laugh again.

As a final point I feel sorry for countless lenient Republicans, Democrats and other liberals, socialists, centrists and apathetics in the USA who probably feel embaressed over the image of a country. Never generalise a country. A Govt. breaks a rule. Not every citizen from Alabama to Alaska.

You make Me Laugh!
You think i beleive only the U.S are human rights abusers in the World?
Had you have cared to notice i only said in cuba!
You also beleive im some kind of lackwit?
Due to the near unbeleiveable ammount of imbesiles in Ns i have to talk on their level!
At the age of 11 i had an Iq of 110!
Yet you picture me as a noob and actually beleive me to be so ignorant as to ignore all cases of human rights abusers world-wide!
I only arguend on the countries mentioned!
Honestly WTF is the point in listing all global cases of human rights abusers worldwide in a single arguement?
Its inconvenient and over the top!
Unlike a vast ammount of people here i dont have the time to do such a thing!
I am Not a Green Peace worshiper nor am i an Amnesty International Worshiper!
Can you picture what a fully functioning Uncorupted Socialist\Communist\Marxist State would be like?
They are based on Equality and Working towards a Greater Good!

You need to read the Heading of this Forum
GAMEPLAY forum!
This is A GAME!
yet your mind fails to define Reality as seperate from a Game!
Go and Debate your feelings on Communism Ect IN THE APROPRIATE FORUM!
GO away, You are obviously a fanatic and will die before you accept somebody elses point of view!

I'd say I'm a moderate. You though...

We're both debating realism though. Theres no Cuba or USA as officialy known in the game is there.

In a childish fashion, ''You started it!!!''.

*flees*