NationStates Jolt Archive

Today I will be announcing the formation of a Region known as the World Court. I hope to add a new perspective to the Nation States game by creating this Region. In essense it really isn't a Region though for obvious technical reasons it someone has to be.

The goal behind the World Court is simply to aid Regions in settling disputes, maintaining peace, preparing for the future and more. The name someone says it all but there is still more the World Court Offers.

Membership to the Region is strictly limited to those with Diplomacy expertise as well as those that are representing Regions. Background checks will be initiated for those that are unable to be immediately recognized. I am hoping to have some of the long-time players join for the most part since they are the ones really that should be doing this sort of thing, as well as know the ropes the most.

If you believe you have the abilities necessary and you have the dedication required, you can apply to join the World Court as an official member by visiting the Forums here: http://s7.invisionfree.com/World_Court_Forums/

Visit the Regions Home page here: http://nationstates.net/

The World Court does hope to make a big impression on NS politics and hopes to help those that have needed it for quite some time now. Thank you for your time and I look forward to speaking with you all later.

Your link above doesn't work!

You do realize that like many supra-national organization in real-life have a limited juristiction. Moreover, is lacks the enforcement capabilities of an actual court. This fact is further compounded by NSverse's unique rules of fuzzy reality. The nations in this cyber-reality essentially can exist in a vacuum.

There are to many numerous failings with the game system to mention here. Nevertheless, the key one is not related to the shortcomings of the game but rather of some of the People playing the game. Peace and peaceful arbitration requires that both parties want peace...

I shall stop the ranting there...We of the Isles will send an observer.
Raven White...approp. no?

Dominion of Me Li
Isles of Mara

This is the link to the non NS forum
http://z7.invisionfree.com/World_Court_Forums/index.php

Pardon me for the inconvenience of having the link not work haha. Yes I do realize Juristiction does effect the super-national organizations in real life, however thank goodness in the NS world we can do so much more. I personally work with the Real United Nations in one aspect, so I really do realize what could be found in real life and what couldn't. However I found it somewhat necessary now since there are so many Regions, many of which have gone corrupt from intrusions or other problems. I agree that both parties need to consent to have Peace. That is why I ask for the best. Diplomacy can be an answer to an incredible amount of situations if the ambassadors and diplomats know what they are doing. The WC is just there to help, I hope you can see that.

You are chasing cyber windmills:rolleyes:
We welcome "forlone hopes" and "lost causes".
It might just even work sometimes.

haha....thanks for the encouragement....

hopefully this is one of those 'sometimes' cases. I'm looking for people to work with me to complete the development of the WC, and for members. Don't be shy, apply haha.

Maybe useful in the future, I tend to get into disputes a lot.

I hope we could be of use to you. WC is here as a resource for avoiding some hassles and really using your time for building your regions and friendships with those within your regions.

If you have interest at all in the WC, visit the Forums and fill out an application. If you are the Regional Delegate and you do not wish to switch regions, you can have a representative of your region also become an embassy per say by joining the WC Region but obviously still remain completely loyal to your region. I'm trying to make this as easy as possible, so if you have other suggestions let me know. The more people that become apart of the Court, the more effective it can be at removing unwanted situations.

The United Anti Terror Coalition would welcome an alliance with the World Court. Please contact The United States of Eppstonia via telegram.

Perhaps seeking an alliance is just a cover up to put the people of a nation in total chaos.

the again, perhaps your intentions are just and true. If an observe is what your seeking, then it must become a fair trade. If you do infact, want to make peace and an alliance with one's nation, I bid you, Telegram Loxy, in the region of Nelankel.

Yours Truly,

Lady Loxy

Our intentions are indeed just and true. We would welcome an ambassador from the World Court, as well as we would be proud to send someone to represent UATC. The purpose of the UATC can be read in our world factbook. (United Anti Terror Coalition)

I'd rather form a friendship prior to going into any sort of alliance. I don't believe in spontaneous alliance agreements. Instead I'd like to work with someone for a while first. You may send someone to my forums to register as a Regional Representative (aka ambassador) if you wish and we'll see where it goes.

I would go even further than that a respectfully suggest that nations consider the World Court a Neutral Extragovernmental Entity. It has no real nations. The Jurists are of the World Court and "technically" have no real affiliation outside this context of Internationally Accepted Judges.

Its authority is not based on Hard Physical Power. It is based on the Soft Powers of Respect, Logic, Juriprudence (Rule of Law/Laws and Precedents). Several Accords and Allainces have come to my attention that in my opinion, under normal Real Life International Laws, have no legs to stand on. Namely, many of the declaration of wars, the invasions, the Accords of Multiple nations that really haven't studied law or history. This being said, this Court can make rulings on multiple cases. It is, however, restricted in its Executive Authority.

Show us an example of Mistaken Accords that would be declared Foolish & Internationally Unconstitional you ask? It is in my opinion that one of the worst violations of national soviergnty is TheTemporal Accords. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346985)

In plain English? :D

It means well but...<shrug>
Good intentions and a dollar will buy you some cheap coffee.

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This Court is Neutral in ALL CONFLICTS. Its jurisdiction is based on real life institutions. You cannot be forced to accept the rulings of the Court. Although, technically you have submitted to its Authority by choosing to send your dispute into arbitration you don't have to be honourable and follow its rulings. No matter how logical or reasonable the ruling, you have the Sovereign right to Refuse to Obey its verdict. Real Life nations do this all the time. Why should you be any different?

Well put. You're exactly right. World Court has no authority and will govern no nations per say. It's purpose is a service not some sort of campaign. You're correct in stating the World Court would be neutral, which only makes sense because I wouldn't call it really a court if it wasn't neutral.

Diplomacy can go a long way if properly applied. Using diplomacy avoids quite a bit of hassle. We can use the World Court now and use it to our advantage, or forget about it. I would like to know if I'm going to get support on this in the near future so I can know if I'm going to be working on this or not. The World Court is for NS if it wants it. Reject it and keep doing what you're doing or accept it and see what we can do with the WC to impact ns.

It would appear Don Hildago, that you and your loyal squire will be tilting windmills alone.

Come on people!

Aren't you tired of Vahalla? Endless battles and resurected dead only to fight again and die in less than glorious combat? I'll be the first to admit destroying things is mighty fun, but doesn't anyone want to try and build another Path?

"The novel Don Quixote, tells how Alonso Quixano, an elderly Spanish hidalgo, or country gentleman, went mad after reading too many stories about knights errant, the heroes of the romances of chivalry. Taking the name Don Quixote and clad in ancient armour, he sets out on his worn-out horse, Rocinante, to right wrongs and fight for justice. He also acquires a squire, the peasant Sancho Panza. Reality is much harsher and he frequently gets badly beaten by those he seeks to aid. By the second part of Don Quixote the knight and squire are well known, as many people they meet have read the first part of the novel and they play up to Don Quixote's delusions. Gradually, however, as his dream fades, Don Quixote's sanity is restored and he returns home to die, not as a knight errant, but as Alonso Quixano."
http://www.bl.uk/news/2005/pressrelease20050405.html

Perhaps Don, you should remove the lock on your NS region? That allows people to chat or not... just restrict the regional settings to founder.

Your off site forum can house some of the excess?

Neat.
Had a few attempts like this back when I was around, most notably The Realm of Criminology.

That one was undemined rather drastically to my mind because it was founded by a militant NPO Senator under a puppet.

Not sure if it's still around, but it never did as well as Thorin hoped. Primarily consisted of inexperienced players from what I observed, while the rest of us continued our squabbles.

Obviously this won't solve in-game conflict, which is fun, but neat idea, especially for founded regions which don't enjoy the conflict portion.

<shrug> Athenii, you can bring water to a horse... :p yup that is backwards! :rolleyes: , We are all essentially barbarians without social contracts. Some are Noble Savages, most are children and chattel...

The main problem I would see with this is a lack of authority and the difficulty inherent in getting everyone to agree on who gets to run the court.

How does a person go about getting themselves appointed Judge of the Metaverse? LOL... That is a big question. There is essentially NO Central Authority nor is there any real constraints on Nations in NS save what the warped minds of the Players put there. The World Court is essentially powerless to effectively enforce Any of its rulings.

This BS World Court faces even more hurdles to it conception. In RL WC you have honoured jurists... in this cyber world you have way too many nations and a bunch of immature folks... LOL that includes me. So which Bozo do you accept as a reasonable judge? <shrug> I would posit that a similar selection criterea in the Forums Mods is applicable in this situation.

No This WC does not want to be mods...

Mods become mods sometimes because they are well respected by the community... other times it is mysterious. :rolleyes: How many people actually know who the real WC justices are? or the Permanant Crimes Against Humanity Tribunal that the USA does not really recognize.

How many people can name their Province/National Supreme Court?

LOL... I cannot right of the top of my head.
<Shrug>

This is a good idea... but it may be stillborn.

Being one of the last survivng members of some of the more notiable creations of a World Court in NS...(like the one between Christofi and Sitheril herself)

This is doomed to failure like all the times before. Conflict resolution around here has never worked that well.