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Hello

I think that NS is the best and the new "Regional Influence" label is a great new change.
But it has also prove one of my bigest fears.

THE WHOLE NS WORLD IS UNDER A MONOPOLY OF 5 BIGEST REGIONS!!!

Regions of The East Pacific (5579 nations), The North Pacific (5604 nations), The Pacific (4829 nations), The South Pacific (5563 nations) and The West Pacific (5698 nations) are the the bigest regions in the NS world and the only that have "Extremely High" influence that i know off.
This is because all the new nations are created in this 5 regions only.
What is the point in recruting new nations to your region if this 5 regions are geting a new member every few minutes.
No region in the world can compete with that.

The situation is that you have 5 big regions whos nations are always arguing and solving nothing and 14305(while this was writen) regions whos nations dont have nobody to argue with.
I have made a statistic of randomly taken regions and found that in 206 random regions there are 3061 nation an average of 14,85922 nations per region that is barely a half of the nations in each of the 5 big regions.
Around 384 random regions have the same amount of nations as one of the big regions (around 5700 nations).
In this statistic i havent taken regions with only one nation beacuse they lower the statistic significatly.

A possible solution of this situation is a creation of a new "beginers" region where all the new nations would start.
The nations there would have no influence in the NS world, or would get any new issues and the messages would be used for recruting only.
This would alove the flow of fresh minds to all of NS regions equally.

The reason i am posting this in the forum is beacuse i am interested in comments of other nations about this topic.
So every one do you suport the idea of centralized NS World of 5 Regions only or decentralized NS world with equally spread nations per regions.
Also if enyone has better solutin for this problem please post it.

Thank you, bye (SiV from Balkans)

btw. sorry for bad English it is not my first language.

There is also Gatesville with Extremely High and The Lexicon with Very High. I don't think your idea will happen and in any case ideas for changes to the game should be posted in the Technical Forum.

However The Pacifics are not monopolies, they are just large, game created regions (although in TEP I'm not sure). All The Pacifics have complicated systems of governments, very good offsite forums, constitutions and your idea would destroy all of that.

Umm.... NS has always been under a "monopoly" of the 5 feeder regions. That's the way the game works. However, most people in those regions don't really participate outside of answering their issues.

And there is plenty of interaction between feeder and non-feeder regions. Yes, the feeders can be quite unstable, but that can be part of their charm. ;) Most people stay in feeders because they don't care about what region they're in. If they cared even a bit, it's quite easy to move, and regions are quite easy to find if they advertise.

What is the point in recruting new nations to your region if this 5 regions are geting a new member every few minutes.
No region in the world can compete with that.
Have you *looked* at the RMB of all of the feeders? There's constant recruiting there. Plus people get sent telegrams all the time. And yes, recruitment can work that way.

Ok i didnt know about Gatesville and The Lexicon region influence.
I didnt post it on the tehnical page beacuse i dont want it to change jet i want to see how many of nations consider this a problem and there comments about it.

If the Pacifics regions are not monopolistic then they should suport the idea of "Beginer" region and compete with the rest of as in the free market of recruting other nations and not acept a bonus of one nation every few minutes.
They do have "complicated systems of governments, very good offsite forums, constitutions" actualy they have 3 goverments that tryd to recrute me when i was there and 7 forums that i know of for smal grup of nations from the Pacific.
What is this regions within a region.

If the NS would suport only the regions with souch thing as goverment, forums and constitution that are functional then there would only be thouse 5 regions in the all NS.
And to comment for your philosophy if it eint broken dont fix it, well it isnt broken but it is working the wrong way.

Regions of The East Pacific (5579 nations), The North Pacific (5604 nations), The Pacific (4829 nations), The South Pacific (5563 nations) and The West Pacific (5698 nations) are the the bigest regions in the NS world and [...] have "Extremely High" influence[...]Hm... almost as if they would be the most difficult to invade...

To Erastide
Wait du you actualy aprouve this balance of power.The big are geting biger and the small are starving.
What is the point of having other regions when the games goal is tu eliminate them.What kind of a game works like that.
Every region has nations that dont participate in the regional events but i doubt that if they would be given a choice to chose a region at the begining they would chose pacific regions only.

To The Most Glorious Hack
Creating big regions for safety from the invaders is a good resion to keep the pacific regions big, but not eny more with the new "Regional Influence" option it is easy to defend a small region the same as a big one (read the new rules).
If the seacurity system is modernized why not the begining system also.

I found a new solution:
Why not randomly spread new nations amoungst the regions whos delegates acept to take them.

I found a new solution:
Why not randomly spread new nations amoungst the regions whos delegates acept to take them.That's an old solution actually. The admins have stated repeatedly that they aren't going to do that sort of thing. The Feeders have awesome power due to their numbers, but they can't have a Founder, and can't password protect their region; they're wide open. Regions like The Rejected Realms and Lazarus are even more vulnerable to invaders as they can't ejected people. Smaller, player created, regions have the advantage of being able to use a password or have a Founder.

Any player created region would have to have its Founder eliminated and its ability to have a password permanently removed. Then they'd just become another Feeder. It wouldn't solve any problems.

Ok
Back to solution No.1 du you have a problem with that solution or du you have a solution of your own?
That is way i posted this topic tu talk about posibilitis.

Solutions imply problems. I have no problem with the Feeders being the largest, most powerful regions, therefore I don't have any "solutions".