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I believe that each region should be able to have a senate.

In this senate is one country for every ten in the region.

I belive that there should be a senate endorsement, and of the senators, they should elect one of themselves for delegate.
-of course the senator elected must belong to the UN.

This would also, give each country more say in the future or their region. If they are not well aquainted with the delagate, a senator they are aquainted with can talk to the delagte about the issue at hand.

Another bonus of this would be a system of checks and balances. If the delagate is out of control, for instance kicking out everyone he/she hates, the senators on a two-thirds vote could elect a new delegate or if worse comes to worse impeach him/her from the whole leadership part of the region.

Furthermore, more people want to have a bigger role in their region, with this proposal it can be possible. You might not be at the head but you get to make more important decisions.

Finally, this proposal will change the whole set up, making it more fun for some of the other nations that wish to have a stronger role.

Sincerly,
Your Friendly Nation

In this senate is one country for every ten in the region.
That seems rather arbitrary. Wouldn't a 600-nation senate for each of the Pacifics be a bit unwieldy?

This would also, give each country more say in the future or their region. If they are not well aquainted with the delagate, a senator they are aquainted with can talk to the delagte about the issue at hand.
I'm always skeptical of claims that introducing another layer of indirection in a goverment gives citizens more of a say.

Another bonus of this would be a system of checks and balances. If the delagate is out of control, for instance kicking out everyone he/she hates, the senators on a two-thirds vote could elect a new delegate or if worse comes to worse impeach him/her from the whole leadership part of the region.
So what happens when the delegate ejects the senators? The senators may have originally elected the delegate, but new nations moving in to a region almost always endorse the delegate, so they'd easily have enough power without the senators.

I believe that each region should be able to have a senate.

In this senate is one country for every ten in the region.

I belive that there should be a senate endorsement, and of the senators, they should elect one of themselves for delegate.
-of course the senator elected must belong to the UN.

This would also, give each country more say in the future or their region. If they are not well aquainted with the delagate, a senator they are aquainted with can talk to the delagte about the issue at hand.

Another bonus of this would be a system of checks and balances. If the delagate is out of control, for instance kicking out everyone he/she hates, the senators on a two-thirds vote could elect a new delegate or if worse comes to worse impeach him/her from the whole leadership part of the region.

Furthermore, more people want to have a bigger role in their region, with this proposal it can be possible. You might not be at the head but you get to make more important decisions.

Finally, this proposal will change the whole set up, making it more fun for some of the other nations that wish to have a stronger role.

Sincerly,
Your Friendly Nation

I noticed that you submitted this as a UN proposal, it's illegal, game mechanics.

Well we have a parliament.
Come and join us.

Texas, like many other regions, already has a working system of government. (And we like it just fine, thank you very much)

Feel free to jump to our online forum and check out our Constitution and such. We're a freindly bunch. (Link is in the sig)

Don't try to medle with other regions. Some of us don't like to be told what to do.

Firstly: I would also point out that although you didn't make it clear whether senators could be ejected, if they could then the idea would be completely pointless.

Secondly: If they couldn't ejected then I would think that this gets rid of the present invading part of the game.

Thirdly: Who would elect the Senators?

Fourthly: The system could be abused and turned into an invasion technique. You would just get hostile invaders or ambitious natives getting a group of their U.N nations elected as Senators and taking over a region.

I believe that each region should be able to have a senate.

Uh... No!

My region has a lovely oligarchy. We enjoy it very much.

I believe that each region should be able to have a senate.

What if the Region is full of people who don't want a Senate? Or don't have a Senate in their country hence they don't know what to do with one?

In this senate is one country for every ten in the region.

Bad idea. See below.

I belive that there should be a senate endorsement, and of the senators, they should elect one of themselves for delegate.
-of course the senator elected must belong to the UN.

Why must the senator be U.N? Really screws things over in an anti-U.N region

This would also, give each country more say in the future or their region. If they are not well aquainted with the delagate, a senator they are aquainted with can talk to the delagte about the issue at hand.

How would it? You yourself think it should be about 10% of the regional population. In a 20-nation Region, only 2 people have a say?

Another bonus of this would be a system of checks and balances. If the delagate is out of control, for instance kicking out everyone he/she hates, the senators on a two-thirds vote could elect a new delegate or if worse comes to worse impeach him/her from the whole leadership part of the region.

How do you get 2/3 of 2? Or 1? What if it's a one-nation senate? That person could elect a new delegate all by him/her-self

Furthermore, more people want to have a bigger role in their region, with this proposal it can be possible. You might not be at the head but you get to make more important decisions.

Unless under your 10% rule the senate runs out of room.

Finally, this proposal will change the whole set up, making it more fun for some of the other nations that wish to have a stronger role.

And the rest get screwed over by a one-man senate who has more power than the delegate.

Any region that wants a Senate can have one. It won't have any in-game function, but that can all be replicated by people withdrawing their endorsements and talking about stuff in off-site forums.

Also, this made a very bad UN proposal. It really should have been posted in Technical, that being where new game features get considered by those who can actually make such changes.

We have a senate, well we call it a conclave, its a tri-cameral legislative body. Come join the New Systems Commonwealth.

We have a senate, well we call it a conclave, its a tri-cameral legislative body. Come join the New Systems Commonwealth.
Hey buddy, (((Last post before yours=21-12-2005, 2:03 AM))) I am not entirely sure if it works out for Gameplay, but normally gravedigging isnt really all that good to do... I've seen you've done it on a few threads here in Gameplay today and I just wanted to let you know in case you didnt already. ;)

Gravedigging: Posting a reply on a long disused thread; bumping threads that aren't used anymore. Adding legitimate new material is permitted, and the acceptable age varies from forum to forum.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023

That would further eliminate the freedoms of individual nations. That is the reason that I didn't join the UN, and now you are recommending a senate for every region, where the other people in a region could force their practices on a soveriegn nation in their region.

Of course, my problem is doing that non-militarily. I am a big supporter of "conqueror's justice"