Communist Flag (Sickle and Hammer)
The Holy Soviet Regime
20-11-2005, 21:34
Can I make the Sickle and Hammer my flag? I wanted to check so I wouldn't get in trouble if it was offensive. I want my group to eventually be a Soviet Republic and I really wanted to wear my Communist pride.
Tannenmille
20-11-2005, 21:35
Yes, you can use the Hammer and Sickle. Soviet / Communist symbolism is allowed; Nazi symbolism isn't.
The Holy Soviet Regime
20-11-2005, 21:36
Ok, thank you.
New Pindorama
21-11-2005, 00:19
Can I make the Sickle and Hammer my flag? I wanted to check so I wouldn't get in trouble if it was offensive. I want my group to eventually be a Soviet Republic and I really wanted to wear my Communist pride.
I know this was already answered, but I'd like to add that it would be preconceituation on communists forbiding that. they've killed as much as any other capitalist nation in a war...
Skeelzania
21-11-2005, 00:35
I know this was already answered, but I'd like to add that it would be preconceituation on communists forbiding that. they've killed as much as any other capitalist nation in a war...
Yes, but the deaths associated with Communism were more the result of Stalin personally than the political system itself, unlike Nazism which is essentially built around anti-Semitism.
Swastikas are cliche anyway. There's plenty of neato symbols out there as it is.
Ekathora
21-11-2005, 01:53
Yes, but the deaths associated with Communism were more the result of Stalin personally than the political system itself, unlike Nazism which is essentially built around anti-Semitism.
Swastikas are cliche anyway. There's plenty of neato symbols out there as it is.
Agreed.
Thus the difference (that no one seems to understand) between Communism and Stalinism.
;)
I must agree, Stalin didn't invent the hammer and sickle, he just dishonored it.
The Eternal Kawaii
21-11-2005, 07:27
While I tend to agree with the opinion expressed in one of the "Samurai Cat" novels, that NAZIism and Communism were basically a bar bet over who could kill the most Russians, the issue of which symbol is pariah actually has little to do with WWII history. The swastika and other NAZI symbols were adopted by certain American racist organizations post-WWII, and so became symbolic of not just a dead European philosophy, but an unfortunately still-living American one. The Communists' symbols, though representing an equally odious philosophy, are dismissed as just another damn foreign idea that Americans can cheerfully ignore.
New Pindorama
21-11-2005, 15:06
hey you are going off topic!!! If you wanna discuss what Stalin did or didn't, start a thread in NSGeneral.
P.S.: I was just telling why the symbol can't be illegal...
Kirisubo
21-11-2005, 18:36
fly the red flag with pride comrade :)
i would have tried that idea as well but my nation is based on imperial japan with the samurai still present
Shazbotdom
21-11-2005, 19:10
May i suggest reading the Acceptable Flag Policy (or: Swastikas, Boobies, and Sickles, oh my!) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438053) for any questions reguarding the legality of a Nation's Flag.
is the Imperial Japanese falg Legal here... just asking:)
Phriykui Linoy Li Esis
22-11-2005, 04:27
Sure democratic nations prefer capitalism, fire bombed dresden, nuked hiroshima and nagasaki, fought a few pointless wars against communism and came from countries which banned slavery, but at least they didn't starve upwards of 20 million their own people to death for disagreeing with them.
Yeah, maybe we can't eliminate crime and we still make mistakes, but not executing people for speaking out against the govenrment is a start isn't it? If I said, "Don't forget, China killed about the same amount of people as capitalist governments" in China, I'd be under a tank before you could say "liberty or death".
And it's not just Stalin, it's Mao, Kim Jong Il, Kruschev, Castro and Pol Pot. They all have blood on their hands and not because of the difficult decisions people in their position have to make which may end up with innocents being killed as collateral damage, these people orderred people's execution with full knowledge of what they were doing and how uneccessary it would be if they were less obsessed with holding on to power.
P.S. The father of fascism was a Hegelian. You know, Hegel, Marx's best bud, a factory owner who paid his workers as much as the next factory owner.
Patriconia
22-11-2005, 04:32
What about the Basques? I'm part Basque and one of the most important symbols of the Basques is the lauburu, which is pretty much a swastika.