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Seriously, ARE you anti-UN?

Lois-Must-Die
28-10-2005, 05:53
[NOTE: This thread is a response to this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=451136) ad from a while back.]

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Antarctic Oasis (www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=antarctic_oasis) Department of UN Affairs
"We will bury you!"
We can't help but chuckle at all the amateur anti-UN efforts being proffered by lesser regions. Our own renegade region's UN policy is the single most effective anti-UN scheme to date: We have devised strategies for combatting the world-government conspiracy on both sides of UN enforcement!

First, we have a semi-respectable delegate fighting for our interests in the grand halls of the UN; he goes up there with his impeccable human-rights credentials, bleets about "national sovereignty!" as a reason to oppose everything, and he does oppose, everything, and votes against it all.

Then, if the vote should happen not to go our way (which always seems to be the case), we have contingency plans: namely, gnome-hunting. Any Compliance Ministry official caught violating our region's sovereign borders is shot on sight. To this rule there are no exceptions. If you work for the UN, and you turn up here, you're dead. In fact, when the UN outlawed chemical weapons months back, we immediately classified all UN Compliance Ministry officials as "chemical weapons," rounded them all up and "decommissioned" their brains out!

But what of the UN Gnomes, you ask? They're sneaky and small, and slip in right under your noses! Well, what better to hunt gnomes than with other gnomes? We have the most specially trained and battle-hardened elite gnome-hunting gnome squads in the world on our retainer. Working with elite penguin commandos (after all, we are in the Antarctic), we track down them crazy UN gnomes and smoke them right out of their holes!

So what are you waiting for? You wanna fight the UN, don't join up with n00bs! Be constructive. Be proactive. Work with us.

Attention all Psychotic World Leaders!! The Antarctic Oasis immigration service is up and running and ready to transport any and all willing anti-UN, pro-UN, rogue and rogue-loving nations to our beautiful, lush, picturesque, unbearable frozen wilderness.

Read up (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Antarctic_Oasis) on our progress as a region.VICTORY IS MINE!!
The Noble Men
28-10-2005, 08:13
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[color=green][b]Antarctic Oasis (www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/tagret=display_region/region=antarctic_oasis) Department of UN Affairs

Linky doesn't work too well.

Aside form that, pretty darned good.

I myself don't use the U.N for anything except defense.
Reformentia
28-10-2005, 09:16
You UN morons don't even have an army! What's stopping us from invading?

True, the UN doesn't have "an army", but the 30,000 plus armies of the individual member nations might perhaps present a small hurdle...
Gruenberg
28-10-2005, 09:24
Might also want to take a glance at the Nuclear Armaments Act.
Lois-Must-Die
28-10-2005, 15:33
The linky worky now!

True, the UN doesn't have "an army", but the 30,000 plus armies of the individual member nations might perhaps present a small hurdle...Who cares?? No nation is pledged or obligated to defend the UN in the event of attack. Heck, an attack might even show you who your real friends are, and I'm thinkin' the number is substantially less than 30,000... :p

(But of course if you read the ad I'm not advocating invasion.)

Might also want to take a glance at the Nuclear Armaments Act.So what?
Gelfland
28-10-2005, 16:31
it isn't so much the UN I hate, as their "think locally, act pan-dimensionally" attitude.
Shazbotdom
28-10-2005, 18:12
I vote yes on what i think will help my naiton, and vote no on what i think will harm it. Sometimes i don't vote, but that is because i am not sure about a resolution. i didn't vote on the "Save the Dolphins" act as well as a few others that i had questions about or that were not written well.
Reformentia
28-10-2005, 18:46
Who cares?? No nation is pledged or obligated to defend the UN in the event of attack.

You do realize that "the UN" is not a peice of real estate right? That it's not a nation, it's not a hilltop fort... that it IS the collection of individual member nations of which it is comprised? So by talking about attacking "The UN" you're talking about attacking those 30,000+ nations?

You're under the impression they won't be obligated to defend themselves?
Lois-Must-Die
28-10-2005, 22:10
You do realize that "the UN" is not a peice of real estate right? That it's not a nation, it's not a hilltop fort... that it IS the collection of individual member nations of which it is comprised? So by talking about attacking "The UN" you're talking about attacking those 30,000+ nations?

You're under the impression they won't be obligated to defend themselves?You do realize the poll option was just a joke, right? And if the UN lacks any real estate, then what's this? (ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Sovereign_UN_Territory)
Gruenberg
28-10-2005, 22:26
You do realize the poll option was just a joke, right? And if the UN lacks any real estate, then what's this? (ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Sovereign_UN_Territory)

Disclaimer Contrary to its IC claims, Sovereign UN territory does not have any actual power.

Just what it says on the tin, by the looks of it.
Lois-Must-Die
28-10-2005, 22:38
Umm, that was a joke too. Yeesh.
Quelsa
29-10-2005, 06:31
The Democratic Republic of Quelsa has no desire to dignify this push poll with a response.
Omigodtheykilledkenny
29-10-2005, 06:54
But you'll still bump the thread? How very kind.
Callisdrun
29-10-2005, 11:05
This thread is so amazingly dumb that I have to comment on it. Wow. I am stunned.
Lois-Must-Die
29-10-2005, 15:47
Thanks. Coming from one of Hogsweat's groupie geeks, that means a lot. :rolleyes:
Crazy girl
29-10-2005, 17:54
Okay, play nice in here, guys.
Wegason
29-10-2005, 20:57
Hey Antarctic Oasis members, you abandoned us on the ACCEL Forum.

We had a bit of problems with the forum and couldnt get your vote to start, some Directors were away due to RL issues.

We are very interested in your region and want to send your application to vote but the ambassador said it was withdrawn, i sent you a PM on the forum to the Ambassador explaining but have had no reply. I would appreciate a response and hope you will come back, everyone at the ACCEL is very excited and interested in your fine region, believe me.

Signed

Wegason, Chairman of ACCEL
Callisdrun
30-10-2005, 00:00
Thanks. Coming from one of Hogsweat's groupie geeks, that means a lot. :rolleyes:

I've actually never RPed with Hogsweat, just read some of his stuff. And someone who's talking about invading the NS UN is calling me a geek? A saying about a pot and a kettle comes to mind.

In any case, you can't "invade" the UN. As previous people have said, it's not a place, it's a group. And claiming that UN is where the buildings are located is just silly. That's like saying that you're going to take over a club by occupying their clubhouse. They'll just find somewhere else to meet.

To "invade" the UN, you'd have to take over all of the nations in the UN, no easy task. The small bit of land the UN owns to put its buildings on is not a sovereign nation.

What's your beef with the UN anyway? If you don't like the way it's run, either leave or get more people who agree with you in it.
Omigodtheykilledkenny
30-10-2005, 00:26
In any case, you can't "invade" the UN. As previous people have said, it's not a place, it's a group. And claiming that UN is where the buildings are located is just silly. That's like saying that you're going to take over a club by occupying their clubhouse. They'll just find somewhere else to meet.

To "invade" the UN, you'd have to take over all of the nations in the UN, no easy task. The small bit of land the UN owns to put its buildings on is not a sovereign nation.

What's your beef with the UN anyway? If you don't like the way it's run, either leave or get more people who agree with you in it.LMD is not a UN member. This post is actually a response to another thread in this forum, and it was intended to be ... what's the word? ... humorous. So just take it for what it is. Ye Gods!
Callisdrun
30-10-2005, 01:12
Well, actually, you're right, it is funny.
Brians Room
09-12-2005, 06:50
Its not that we hate the UN.

It's more that we hate what happens when you mix idealistic, naive heads of state with the UN. What happens is the promulgation of such a varied mix of "feel good" resolutions that simply take away our authority and force our states to conform to someone else's belief system.

There are a number of critical things the UN should do - developing an international body of law for issues that cross state lines, regulating interstate and interregional commerce, etc. These things usually take a backseat to saving the whales or allowing gay marriage.

Watching the UN in action is like watching a child try to take its first steps, but it keeps falling down and hitting its head on the pavement. You keep hoping the kid will finally walk, but he never seems to, and after a while you've gotta turn your head because its just too painful to watch.
The UN Gnomes
09-12-2005, 08:51
But what of the UN Gnomes, you ask? They're sneaky and small, and slip in right under your noses! Well, what better to hunt gnomes than with other gnomes? We have the most specially trained and battle-hardened elite gnome-hunting gnome squads in the world on our retainer. Working with elite penguin commandos (after all, we are in the Antarctic), we track down them crazy UN gnomes and smoke them right out of their holes!Bring it on, fanboy.
Lois-Must-Die
09-12-2005, 18:14
Bring it on, fanboy.Ohh, it's already been broughten!! :mad:
The Gnomish Warbands
10-12-2005, 20:56
Bring it on, fanboy.


"Saddle up the Shetland Ponies,Boys! We're going Gnome Hunting! Yee Haw!" Thadbroxton Kornweasel III said to his Gnomish Warbands. "And get the War Ferrets ready, we may have us some rocky mountain oysters before the day is done!" As they rode Thadbroxton Kornweasel III and his fierce gnomish warbands began to sing," OH I'm Heading fooor the lassst round-up!!":D
Lois-Must-Die
08-02-2006, 03:01
*bump!!!!*

That's right.
Gruenberg
10-03-2006, 20:48
Antartic Oasis: now with 10% more goat.
Omigodtheykilledkenny
10-03-2006, 21:06
Just 10% more?? You can never have too much goat.
The Palentine
11-03-2006, 03:02
*Palentine Naval Dolphin swims up*

"Just keep your *CENSORED**FOUL WORD* Dolphin hunting *EXPLITVE* away from the *BEEP*BEEPING*Dolphins around these *BEEP* parts, ya * BEEP* goat! or else w'ell *BEEPING* swear at ya a second time.
The Palentine
11-03-2006, 21:09
BHU-DUMP BUMP!*rimshot*

Thank you, you're a great audience. Try the veal and remember to tip your waitress. The next show's at 10.*walks off stage*
Palentine UN Office
12-03-2006, 20:36
As Ric Flair would say... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Romanar
15-03-2006, 03:11
Bah! The UN is just a liberal/commie/terrorist plot to destroy soveren nations and take over the world. ;)
Not Quite Dead Peoples
15-03-2006, 04:04
Well, I remember trying to post something here yesterday, but it was apparently lost. In the 24 hours since I was last here, this thread seems to have degraded from "I'm gonna kill the UN" "No, that's stupid!" to "Bump!" "ha, ha, Bump!"

Wow. Just like the UN. Never really got anything important accopmlished.

Also like the UN in that it can't be killed, so why bother trying.

Personally, I am of the opinion that anyone seriously involved in the UN, whether supporting it or defying it, is wasting his time.
Hirota
15-03-2006, 12:25
[There are a number of critical things the UN should do - developing an international body of law for issues that cross state lines, regulating interstate and interregional commerce, etc. These things usually take a backseat to saving the whales or allowing gay marriage.To an extent, I agree. There is a lot of international legislation the UN could benefit from implementing. However, there is also legislation that is needed to preserve rights fundamental to everybody.

Some of the legislation is a bit wrong - we legalise gay marriage but neglect conventional marriage for example. In this case I feel the UN should be legislating to endorse marriage for all peoples, irrespective of gender and sexuality rather than promoting positive discrimination of minorities.

It’s the same with whaling – it’s a great idea, but what about the other animals who may be in more danger of extinction? It's more that we hate what happens when you mix idealistic, naive heads of state with the UN. What happens is the promulgation of such a varied mix of "feel good" resolutions that simply take away our authority and force our states to conform to someone else's belief system.That’s been changing recently. Instead now there has been an increasing trend towards allowing states to force their citizens to conform to the governments belief systems. Some people like that, some don’t.
Gruenberg
15-03-2006, 12:28
UN nations comprise one quarter of the world's nations. When they comprise one whole of the world's nations, bring the universal human rights on. Till then, there's no point.
Hirota
15-03-2006, 12:40
UN nations comprise one quarter of the world's nations. When they comprise one whole of the world's nations, bring the universal human rights on. Till then, there's no point.It’s better to improve rights for people for a quarter of the world than for nobody. We can only do what we can do.

It would be nice if everyone joined the UN, but that will be impossible, partially because of governments opting out, but also because of puppetry.
Cluichstan
15-03-2006, 21:47
But you'll still bump the thread? How very kind.

I'll bump it, too! http://67.15.129.139/5999/196/emo/cobdenia.gif
Killer Bud
16-03-2006, 11:09
I'm not anti-UN, I just don't want to join at the moment. My nation is very free-spirited and I don't want to have it run by UN resolutions that think they know better than my nation's inhabitants.
Omigodtheykilledkenny
19-03-2006, 19:31
Well, I remember trying to post something here yesterday, but it was apparently lost. In the 24 hours since I was last here, this thread seems to have degraded from "I'm gonna kill the UN" "No, that's stupid!" to "Bump!" "ha, ha, Bump!"

Wow. Just like the UN. Never really got anything important accopmlished.

Also like the UN in that it can't be killed, so why bother trying.

Personally, I am of the opinion that anyone seriously involved in the UN, whether supporting it or defying it, is wasting his time.Why post repeated rants about an organization you deem a "waste of time"? ... Erm, this is the closest you will ever see me defending the UN. Don't make me do it again.
Palentine UN Office
19-03-2006, 20:05
Why post repeated rants about an organization you deem a "waste of time"? ... Erm, this is the closest you will ever see me defending the UN. Don't make me do it again.

Don't mess with the President Manuelo Fernanda!
Cluichstan
20-03-2006, 16:57
Don't mess with the President Manuelo Fernanda!

I wouldn't mind messing with the Kennyite VP, though. Giggety-giggety-giggety.
Palentine UN Office
21-03-2006, 01:52
I wouldn't mind messing with the Kennyite VP, though. Giggety-giggety-giggety.


Or go a few rounds with the Infamous kennyite Stripper Commandos....

"Batten down the hatches, and clear the deck for action!":D
Cluichstan
21-03-2006, 14:00
Or go a few rounds with the Infamous kennyite Stripper Commandos....

"Batten down the hatches, and clear the deck for action!":D

Or better yet, BOTH!
Omigodtheykilledkenny
22-03-2006, 03:56
Now, now, children. Stripper Commandos are not toys; they're lean, mean, seductive, veluptuous, curvaceous, deceptive, bewitching, sirenous fighting machines!! Antigone Morgan (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Antigone_Morgan), on the the other hand, is just a bitch. (A bitch with a nice ass.) :D
Palentine UN Office
23-03-2006, 03:25
Aw Shucks, bossman...