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Will some people please join my relatively new region?

Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:11
Hi. I have a relatively new region that has been made to be an example to other regions of nations that are an example of truth and righteousness (which is quite scarce in the world today, and should be improved). I have not had much success. I have had a max of 3 nations in my regions. I am aware that there will be most likely little interest in this, but that does not mean it is a worthless venture. Please, anyone who desires to make the world a better place through being an example of pure and simple goodness, please join my region, Arathenium. Please, anybody, tell me if you are interested.
Willamena
14-08-2005, 03:13
Why are truth and righteousness worthy?

And what do they have to do with pure and simple goodness?

And, no offense but your religion, Arathenium, sounds like new element on the periodic table.
Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:16
That's a silly question. Truth is what things actually are. Righteousness is the root of all goodness, i.e. pure and simple goodness.
Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:17
btw, the name doesn't matter so much i think, but I never really noticed that. Lol. I suppose it does.
Willamena
14-08-2005, 03:21
btw, the name doesn't matter so much i think, but I never really noticed that. Lol. I suppose it does.
So, would that, like, be a gas? or a heavier metal? I need to know before I can decide to join.
Willamena
14-08-2005, 03:23
That's a silly question. Truth is what things actually are. Righteousness is the root of all goodness, i.e. pure and simple goodness.
Okay; but why is "what things actually are" worthy?
Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:24
No, actually it wouldn't be either. It would be a name with the root of the made-up word "Arathen" as it's base. (refering to the element thing)
Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:25
Okay; but why is "what things actually are" worthy?

Because it's the way things actually are. It is the opposite of lies. Of course that is worthy. If there is no truth, all there is is confusion.
Willamena
14-08-2005, 03:25
No, actually it wouldn't be either. It would be a name with the root of the made-up word "Arathen" as it's base. (refering to the element thing)
Oh. Darn. I was kind of looking forward to joining your periodic chart.
Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:27
Oh. Darn. I was kind of looking forward to joining your periodic chart.

lol very funny.
Willamena
14-08-2005, 03:28
Anything that brings about good is worthy.
How does righteousness, i.e. being right all the time, bring about good?
Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:30
How does righteousness, i.e. being right all the time, bring about good?

Actually I don't think it means that. I think it means doing right all the time.
Willamena
14-08-2005, 03:31
Well I never thought of the word meaning that, and I'm not sure it does, but if you are always right, you always make good choices.
Well, okay, leaving out the time element, how does right bring about good? Is good equated with right? Are they the same thing?
Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:34
Well, okay, leaving out the time element, how does right bring about good? Is good equated with right?

Ok.... This is ganna take a while. If you are good, you always do the right thing. If you always do the right thing, you are perfectly righteous.
Willamena
14-08-2005, 03:38
Ok.... This is ganna take a while. If you are good, you always do the right thing. If you always do the right thing, you are perfectly righteous.
I have all night. :) Do you?

Okay, what about the person who has to do something they don't believe in, compromise their principles, in order to do what is right?

What about the person who, say, believes it is wrong to kill someone you love, and yet has to put a beloved grandmother to sleep because she is suffering and in pain?

Are they righteous? Or is the "right" thing determined by someone other than them?
Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:48
I have all night. :) Do you?

Okay, what about the person who has to do something they don't believe in, compromise their principles, in order to do what is right?

What about the person who, say, believes it is wrong to kill someone you love, and yet has to put a beloved grandmother to sleep because she is suffering and in pain?

Are they righteous? Or is the "right" thing determined by someone other than them?

Ok. First issue:

If it is right, than their principles are off. If they do what is righteous, they are right.

Second issue:

He doesn't have to. We always have free will. I believe we should spare, lives at all costs, unless the person's life will bring about more evil than good (dont get me started on what evil is, i posted on the "what evil is" thread and you are free to read my post, it's one of the last ones) And I know you are going to ask me how you know if the persons life will bring more evil than good. I believe God is the only person who can tell you that.

Lastly,

Peoples views have greatly become confused on what is right and wrong. People's values have changed, deteriated, and become imperfect. God knows what is right all the time. Inquire of Him if you really want to know what is right in a situation. I know not everyone believes in God, but I have personal experiences in which I have had a powerful witness that he exists and does answer prayers if you have faith, truely desire enough for an answer, (not just chanting, you know, really meaning it) and if you will do your part first. It will come in a feeling most likely, rather than a marvelous experience. If the answer is no (which it sometimes is) you may have a feeling of confusion. This may sound crazy, but I know it is true.
Arathen
14-08-2005, 03:56
I'll talk on this more tomorow, cause i have to go to bed. But please feel free to talk more about this if you want tomorow. C ya.
Willamena
14-08-2005, 03:58
I'd join your religion, man. But it has the same Christian God everyone else talks about. The one who decides what is "right."

Sorry. You be metal on the periodic table.
Arathen
14-08-2005, 20:45
I'd join your religion, man. But it has the same Christian God everyone else talks about. The one who decides what is "right."

Sorry. You be metal on the periodic table.

What do u mean, "it has the same Christian God everyone else talks about"? Christian religions believe in the same God, but God does not lead all churches.

The religion I am a member of is called "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" If you wish to know about the church, either ask me about it or go to LDS.org or Mormon.org.

btw, why would I be metal?