NationStates Jolt Archive


Can't understand an issue

Senkai
12-08-2005, 22:31
Ok, I just can't figure out what this issue is saying... if anyone could help me, I'll give you a magical rock.

Two Parties For Too Long?

The Issue: Representatives of several minor political parties have joined their voices to object to stiff ballot access requirements.

Option 1: "Two-party politics is squeezing the life out of democracy in Senkai," laments Billy-Bob Utopia, leader of the Pragmatic Radical Party. "The Liberal Conservatives and Progressive Traditionalists have a monopoly on public policy - or duopoly, whatever you want to call it. The point is that there's hardly any difference between them, and their chokehold on the electoral process lets hacks and crooks stay in office forever. Ballot access rules must be loosened so we can give the voters a truly democratic choice."

Option 2: "People are afraid to support 'third' parties because they're afraid of seeing the 'bad guys' get elected," says Hope Silk, a ballot stastician. "But if we changed the system to allow preferential voting, where you can have your votes divvied up among your other candidates if your favourite doesn't recieve a certain number of votes, then that wouldn't be a problem. Then you could let as many parties as you wanted into the game. Deserving candidates wouldn't be harmed - they'd win! Maybe a few radicals would get through, but that just proves what a great system it is!"

Option 3: "What ever happened to 'one man, one vote'?" asks Pete Li, chairperson of the Liberal Conservative National Committee. "Changing the rules will just let all sorts of crackpots clog up the ballot and overwhelm voters with names they don't recognise - this will draw attention and support away from legitimate candidates! How do you expect the nation to function properly if the government doesn't have public support? Oh, and by the way, the Liberal Conservative Party presents a VERY clear alternative to the destructive agenda of the Progressive Traditionalists, and I'll wallop anyone who says otherwise."

Option 4: "Opposition parties are such a bother," muses Charles Fellow, your chief of staff. "If we allowed as many of them to be politicians as those fools in the Pragmatic Radical Party want, it would be very hard on the tax payers - and our own position in power. If we re-wrote the election rules so that a party had to reapply for recognition every time it failed to win a certain number of votes, we could knock our opposition out of the ring for good! Hey, the voters have spoken, and they asked for us. I think that just about settles it, don't you?"

Option 5: Dismiss this issue.

In Option 2 I understand everything until that last sentence, but I'm confused about the other 3.
Valori
12-08-2005, 22:50
Option 2: You can vote for a main party candidate, but if not enough people vote for that candidate, then the vote goes to your 3rd Party.

Ex. Say your a Green Party member, but REALLY don't want Republicans in office. So instead of just voting for the Republicans, you vote for the Green Party, but if the Green Party doesn't get enough votes to win, your vote goes for the Democrats instead.

Option 3: Keep it two parties. The Rest is just humor I think....

Option 4: If each party has a certain amount of followers, then they can run a candidate. So people vote, to determine which parties can run, then vote to decide the winner.

Option 5: You decide not to change the election process from the way it currently is.
Senkai
12-08-2005, 23:52
And Option 1? Also, I can't really see how your interpretation of Option 4 is what it actually says. Other than that, thank you very much! It makes more sence now.
Valori
12-08-2005, 23:56
Option 1: Allow any and all parties to run, so everyone is represented. No rules on what parties may or may-not run.


As to option 4.

If we re-wrote the election rules so that a party had to reapply for recognition every time it failed to win a certain number of votes, we could knock our opposition out of the ring for good! Hey, the voters have spoken, and they asked for us. I think that just about settles it, don't you?"

They are saying that if a party doesn't get a certain amount of votes then they have to reapply.

So after re-reading it, I think they are saying, let every party run the first time, then if they don't get a certain amount of votes then the party is no longer an "official" political party, and they must re-apply. This could lead to a dictatorship if enough parties didn't get enough votes.
Senkai
13-08-2005, 00:12
Mhm, ok, it makes sence now. Just one last question: So, there could be like 5, 10 or more parties?
Valori
13-08-2005, 00:26
For option 1, basically, just allowing all the parties the people want.

And for option 4, if they get enough votes, then yes.
Senkai
13-08-2005, 00:32
Ok, thanks!
About that rock. The first shiny-cool-lookin' rock you set your eyes upon will be it (I telepathically put it there) :) .
Valori
13-08-2005, 00:33
Grazi, I shall Cherish it forever.
Karlila
13-08-2005, 12:51
Rather then start a new thread, thought I'd pose my question here. Can one go back and change what one had previously selected for any particular issue that had been decided on before? Or am I stuck with my decision for all time?
Aylestone
13-08-2005, 13:05
Rather then start a new thread, thought I'd pose my question here. Can one go back and change what one had previously selected for any particular issue that had been decided on before? Or am I stuck with my decision for all time?

You never get exactly the same issue twice. however you do often get issues that can affect earlier ones, ie: Say you banned gamboling, and then a month later you get an issue that asks you if Indians can build them to make up for stolen land. For all intents and purposes you have repealed the gamboling law.